The Official Word
To continuously provide a wide-selection of quality offers on a regular basis, FreePay has implemented the following new offer requirements policies that will immediately be in effect for all existing and new users.
Existing Users
· With a start date of March 1, 2006 – existing users and their associated referrals will have 90 days to complete all offer requirements specific to the FreePay websites of their original account signups.
· Upon completion of all offer requirements, existing users will have the ability to download and print an “Approval Form” that must be filled out in its entirety and mailed with a postmarked date no later than 30 days of completing their offer requirements.
New Users
· Beginning with the date of new account signups on FreePay websites, new users and their associated referrals will have 90 days to complete all offer requirements specific to the FreePay websites of their new accounts signups.
· Upon completion of all offer requirements, new users will have the ability to download and print an “Approval Form” that must be filled out in its entirety and mailed with a postmarked date no later than 30 days of completing their offer requirements.
PLEASE NOTE If all offer requirements have been met within 30 days of a new account signup, the “Approval Form” will not be available for downloading until after those 30 days.
tsanghan
01-03-2006 11:51:38
thats bs. what if you guys dont credit the offer we do we have to wait 15 days that half the time we have to mail it in and you guys proably lag it to credit from the customer support tickets
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 11:53:42
[quote2b0b5cd6bf="tsanghan"]thats bs. what if you guys dont credit the offer we do we have to wait 15 days that half the time we have to mail it in and you guys proably lag it to credit from the customer support tickets[/quote2b0b5cd6bf]
Werd. It took me almost 2 months to get credit for stamps.com... This sucks (
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 11:55:02
2 questions
1) If I get all my referrals and print and send the approval form, but am denied approval due to 1 or 2 referrals, am I still on the same 90-day deadline to find replacement referrals, or is there an extension?
2) If I don't have all my referrals after 90 days, can I start over, or am I barred from finishing that site?
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 11:56:29
this policy should add
"From now on, all referrals and yourself that have subscribed to an offer WILL recieve instant credit"
that makes more sense with this policy, it elliminates "wait time"
i wonder how this will effect the one account per household issue. if u cannot pursue getting your free item after 30 days will u be able to make a new account and then do it? interesting...
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 12:07:17
THIS SEEMS SO SHADY TO ME SORRY TO SAY.
Suppose a guy wants a free PS3, 8 referral requirement. He can only get 7 referrals by the 90 day mark. So, Freepay not only get's to keep the money from the subscriptions for giving them 7 people, but they don't even have to buy anything for the original user, thus, PROFIT FOR FREEPAY.
sorry, but looks like this is the idea in the Corporate Heads at Freepay.
Brok3n_Sword
01-03-2006 12:09:01
Here we go, the official end of freepay. It had to end sometime.
nobody2000
01-03-2006 12:09:34
[quote801bc09f07="mpbollywoodking"]this policy should add
"From now on, all referrals and yourself that have subscribed to an offer WILL recieve instant credit"
that makes more sense with this policy, it elliminates "wait time"[/quote801bc09f07]
Great...so Pachinkos can stop using trainn and start using freepay.
Either way...everything stinks now.
[quote000e25648d="mpbollywoodking"]THIS SEEMS SO SHADY TO ME SORRY TO SAY.
Suppose a guy wants a free PS3, 8 referral requirement. He/she can only get 7 referrals by the 90 day mark. So, Freepay not only get's to keep the money from the subscriptions for giving them 7 people, but they don't even have to buy anything for the original user, thus, PROFIT FOR FREEPAY.
sorry, but looks like this is the idea in the Corporate Heads at Freepay.[/quote000e25648d]
what if they get 8 referals after 60 days, send it approval form, and a month later they get back a response saying one of their greens did not go through? Then they get nothing for having what were probably 8 legitimate greens. ROFL, this is complete bullshit.
jhennson
01-03-2006 12:10:36
ahh damn...i havent been on this websites for quite a while and i checked my xbox360 and i get this weird message!! it sucks i still havent completed that site and theyll take my 4 greens from me!! damnnn
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 12:12:01
[quote92eb3d271a="VGM"][quote92eb3d271a="mpbollywoodking"]THIS SEEMS SO SHADY TO ME SORRY TO SAY.
Suppose a guy wants a free PS3, 8 referral requirement. He/she can only get 7 referrals by the 90 day mark. So, Freepay not only get's to keep the money from the subscriptions for giving them 7 people, but they don't even have to buy anything for the original user, thus, PROFIT FOR FREEPAY.
sorry, but looks like this is the idea in the Corporate Heads at Freepay.[/quote92eb3d271a]
what if they get 8 referals after 60 days, send it approval form, and a month later they get back a response saying one of their greens did not go through? Then they get nothing for having what were probably 8 legitimate greens. ROFL, this is complete bullshit.[/quote92eb3d271a]
Yea this must be a joke, or Freepay trying to scam us all and run off with our money... cry
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 12:12:05
this policy will only work, if they have INSTANT GREENS
fashionjunkee
01-03-2006 12:13:12
[quote8af17ca37a="nobody2000"][quote8af17ca37a="mpbollywoodking"]this policy should add
"From now on, all referrals and yourself that have subscribed to an offer WILL recieve instant credit"
that makes more sense with this policy, it elliminates "wait time"[/quote8af17ca37a]
Great...so Pachinkos can stop using trainn and start using freepay.
Either way...everything stinks now.[/quote8af17ca37a]
I totally agree. Freepay was who I had faith in. I believed in you Freepay cry and you do this to me!
nobody2000
01-03-2006 12:14:15
I just logged on...I have until august 28 now. That's a 180+ day deal goin on i think.
Feb 28 Got last ref
march
april
may
june
july
august 28 Deadline
6 months or about 180 days...hm
Fugger
01-03-2006 12:17:06
[quote5dcac0c001="nobody2000"]I just logged on...I have until august 28 now. That's a 180+ day deal goin on i think.
[/quote5dcac0c001]
What site and where is the day listed?
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 12:17:12
for which site? 180 days ain't too shaby
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 12:22:23
Why don't they just make their policy for INACTIVE accounts for 90 days or something. Then everything would be peachy.
tramahound
01-03-2006 12:24:39
my user id is 8 digits, the form only has room for 7.
what's up with that?
jMuss
01-03-2006 12:24:49
Trannin should send FreePay a giftbasket or something to thank FreePay for boosting Tranins appeal. Why doesnt FreePay throw in some OODs as well? I heard those are good money makers.
good2speed
01-03-2006 12:25:34
[quote01a3ee1a41="Drummer16161616"]Why don't they just make their policy for INACTIVE accounts for 90 days or something. Then everything would be peachy.[/quote01a3ee1a41]
that would just make it easier for you to finish the site. These new rules are obviously in place to make it harder for us to finish
punjabGTRR34
01-03-2006 12:27:16
Somebody just told me that all the offers are marked as being instant offers.
nobody2000
01-03-2006 12:29:22
doubtful...they've all said "INSTANT" for some time now.
As for my 8/28/06 thing
"Your form must be mailed (according to the postmark) by 8/28/2006. We recommend that you use recorded mail."
I dunno...check...it's for my PSPs that I JUST completed yesterday/today (don't know when last ref went green).
fgr_admin
01-03-2006 12:36:30
Just so everyone can see here is what you get when you finish a site
[quote6194416d06]You have the minimum number of referred friends needed to get your FREE Laptop. The next step is to click the Download Approval Form button below to download the approval form file to your desktop. Print this file out, fill it in and mail it according to the instructions on the form. Note, you must click the button and download a new form - photocopies will not be accepted.
Your form must be mailed (according to the postmark) by 8/28/2006. We recommend that you use recorded mail.
When we process your approval form we will check your account and confirm that all of your referrals are unique, valid and legitimate. We also check your referrals' referrals, to ensure that there has been no fraud or abuse. We cannot award you credit for referrals that have broken our Terms and Conditions. Unfortunately, customers often find that 1 or 2 of their referrals do not get awarded, so you may want to refer extra friends to improve your chances of approval.
Check this page regularly to see the result of your approval request. It may take 4 or more weeks to process your approval form.
Your User ID ??????????
[/quote6194416d06]
Which has me kinda upset since I have been waiting for 14 days for approval on that site, now I have to mail in a voucher and wait another 30. Hmmmm
DjDvision
01-03-2006 12:36:33
this is weird, ive gotten all the referals for my xbox360 and giftcards, and i submitted for approval, and now my status says
Great news!
You have completed an offer. Now just refer 8 friends to sign up and complete an offer.
But i already have all 8 (for the xbox)? Should i just wait, since things are still being worked out i guess?
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 12:40:20
glitch probably
tramahound
01-03-2006 12:42:59
[quote9ae7afc29d="DjDvision"]this is weird...[/quote9ae7afc29d]
I had the same problem with my gift card offer. I logged out and back in then it gave me the form page. the freepay site is all screwy now what with instant credit listings and greens turning yellow!
nobody2000
01-03-2006 12:44:22
the yellows and greens with no approval link are all glitches mentioned in this and other threads
Maybe freepay got april 1st fools and march 1st mixed up ??
oh and what happens after the 90 days? can u start another account? or are u put on hold? which makes it so u cant do any other sites from freepay...
ilanbg
01-03-2006 12:49:14
What happens to sites that we don't complete within 90 days?
EatChex89
01-03-2006 12:51:05
Goodbye FreePay.
I'm with Train only now.
I'm sorry to everyone. Everything good must go sometime or another. This is a bigger scam than OC in my opinion.
Jake, and all the rest of freepay, do you realize it took me 6 hard and long months just to get my iPod?? I mean come on, it takes some to convince people. I don't know what the hell you guys were thinking, maybe you were high?
I'm starting my podcast again.
I'm going to kick some trash cans over.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 12:51:58
what i want to know is, once you have been APPROVED, are u in the clear?
Because i would like to finish the PS3, but wait for the second batch just in case the first batch are defectives P
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 12:53:35
[quoteaacb31bb07="EatChex89"]Goodbye FreePay.
I'm with Train only now.
I'm sorry to everyone. Everything good must go sometime or another. This is a bigger scam than OC in my opinion.
Jake, and all the rest of freepay, do you realize it took me 6 hard and long months just to get my iPod?? I mean come on, it takes some to convince people. I don't know what the hell you guys were thinking, [baacb31bb07]maybe you were high?[/baacb31bb07][/sizeaacb31bb07]
I'm starting my podcast again.
I'm going to kick some trash cans over.[/quoteaacb31bb07]
lol ROFL
johnjimjones
01-03-2006 12:54:28
WHY would Freepay want more paper work? What's wrong with the online submission of the order??
/agrees with EatChex and kicks over a trashcan.
EatChex89
01-03-2006 12:56:24
[quote67213be56a="johnjimjones"]WHY would Freepay want more paper work? What's wrong with the online submission of the order??
/agrees with EatChex and kicks over a trashcan.[/quote67213be56a]
they think maybe we're fake people.
yea lets all go and kick our neighbor's trashcans over, then call the cops.
johnjimjones
01-03-2006 12:57:59
[quote3412519571="EatChex89"][quote3412519571="johnjimjones"]WHY would Freepay want more paper work? What's wrong with the online submission of the order??
/agrees with EatChex and kicks over a trashcan.[/quote3412519571]
they think maybe we're fake people.
yea lets all go and kick our neighbor's trashcans over, then call the cops.[/quote3412519571]
I was refering to the trashcan in my room which I now have to pick up all the crap I kicked out, but the neighbors sounds good too.
This is so stupid.
killerman
01-03-2006 13:00:04
they reached the top of the pyramid maybe?
li/me waits for the OOD and random dq'sli
freepay was great while it lasted thou, but i have never seen a site that puts you on a timer
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 13:03:04
[quoteb692815f64="mpbollywoodking"]what i want to know is, once you have been APPROVED, are u in the clear?
Because i would like to finish the PS3, but wait for the second batch just in case the first batch are defectives P[/quoteb692815f64]
How can you think of PS3 yet when xbox's haven't even been sent out hehe
EatChex89
01-03-2006 13:04:36
So if I don't finish my sites, but I want to try again, I can't can I?
EasyAs456
01-03-2006 13:05:44
Uhm if you guys haven't noticed they are doing the same thing that DIY's did to make a crap load of money. That's basically it...
bullseye4u
01-03-2006 13:06:22
guys lets just all wait and not post silly comments or get in a panic breathe guys its not the end of the world just wait for jake to respond
fgr_admin
01-03-2006 13:09:46
Hope you guys have more garbage cans. Hers part of the voucher
[quote7cc002b93d]Once we have received this form, we will review your account. Once approved, you may place your order via the website. Please allow 4 weeks or more for approval to take place. Please login and check your account and click on "status" to order.[/quote7cc002b93d]
So good bye 10-14 days, hello 28+
Honestly though if it helps keep freepay in business, I am for it. I would rather see them change this then close like a HYIP.
It is obvious Freepay is suffering from there own trustworthiness. The model for freepay is they make money when people don't finish. Yet with more and more people seeing how it truly does work. Older accounts are now finishing. My ipod account was over 2 years old. So I am sure they wrote me off. Plus with the influx of people like me (sorry) they have more people finishing then they had planned on.
So I don't think people should bash freepay just yet. I know it sucks for people like me and you who have traded and now joined all the sites. However would you prefer this or something more drastic.
VrExe
01-03-2006 13:10:33
I'm so confused... What the heck is going on here. I don't see any dates on my site.
EatChex89
01-03-2006 13:12:06
[quotedc296ca78c="VrExe"]I'm so confused... What the heck is going on here. I don't see any dates on my site.[/quotedc296ca78c]
neither do I, but I know it'll be there soon.
I wish that this whole thing only applied to NEW accounts. I wish we could still be under the old T&C. that'd be tight
Powerbook
01-03-2006 13:12:14
This is worse than OC. Great now i need to figure out how to get 4 more refs for ps3 quickly.... This is complete BULLSHIT. TRAINN, Orderit4free, and some other networks is what i will stick with. I will make sure to tell my friends not to sign up for freepay now. This is extremely shady and even ODD is better than this... I think OC is much better now.... It won't be long till freepay does random DQ's and implemts ODD. Oh well, TRAINN will do great from this D
Why to turn into a sellout freepay ( Now they can even make MORE money, it's always about money everywhere.
I still like you Jake though) We are both Polish !
good2speed
01-03-2006 13:16:06
Its also apparent that these trading froums hurt their buisness.
Think about it 90 days
I haven't wanted a macmini at all.
Only reason I signed up was to get a trade done for another site. About a year ago
Dont really look for trades but if I find someone randomly wanting to do it I'll pay em 20 bucks
Great.
So basically Im in no rush to finish the site but have invested time and money to see that it will eventually be finished. Now I'm screwed in the 40- 60 bucks I spent on the site.
So What does this all mean. It means if I want to trade for a site I better have some interest in completing that other site immediatly as well.
Would have I signed up for mac minis if that were the case. Well in a nut shell. Hell no.
Definetely a corporate move to limit the number of gifts being shipped out and to limit our ability to trade for sites on these forums.
Someone also mentioned this alreaduy but I think it needs to be brought to light again.
Price of freepay refs on this forum just went up about $10-$20.
Not only do I have to convinve someone to signup for my desktop site. I have to convince them that they can finish the site in 90 days.
Thx freepay
Supacold
01-03-2006 13:17:04
nvm
VrExe
01-03-2006 13:17:31
We shouldn't say anything bad yet because we could be mis-understanding this new thing. Until I see a proof of a significant change to Freepay, I will still be faithful to Freepay sites.
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 13:19:31
Who cares about Freepay. DIY is the way to go anyway.
This still sucks ass because I have 3 ps3 referrals that I need to get quickly. I feel bad for the people who have maybe 9/21 laptop referrals done. What happens to the account after the 90 days, sorry if I missed it...does it get deleted?
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 13:19:42
[quoteab59ab385f="VrExe"]We shouldn't say anything bad yet because we could be mis-understanding this new thing. Until I see a proof of a significant change to Freepay, I will still be faithful to Freepay sites.[/quoteab59ab385f]
Proof? You mean like the statement they just released?
pokernerdaa
01-03-2006 13:20:55
Did anyone else just see that? All the freepay customers just went to other sites after reading this post.
JOSHBOX
01-03-2006 13:21:13
after 90 days can we do a site over?
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 13:22:05
[quoteca904b260b="JOSHBOX"]after 90 days can we do a site over?[/quoteca904b260b]
Thats what I want to know, because that would be the shiznit...lol
mwt123
01-03-2006 13:22:49
i went to the status page, but i dont see anything regarding how many days are left.. where do you guys find it at?
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 13:23:34
[quote8fd56e281a="mwt123"]i went to the status page, but i dont see anything regarding how many days are left.. where do you guys find it at?[/quote8fd56e281a]
I don't see it anywhere either.
petezahut2
01-03-2006 13:27:52
BLOW ME, Freepay.
EatChex89
01-03-2006 13:28:10
i doubt we'll be able to do a site over, after all it still is one per household..
mwt123
01-03-2006 13:28:41
[quoted3354d43cf="ajrock2000"][quoted3354d43cf="mwt123"]i went to the status page, but i dont see anything regarding how many days are left.. where do you guys find it at?[/quoted3354d43cf]
I don't see it anywhere either.[/quoted3354d43cf]
i would assume that it starts on march 1, after rereading it
fgr_admin
01-03-2006 13:29:34
Honestly I dont see why they wouldnt allow you to rejoin if you frfeit your original account. Since it just makes them more money.
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 13:29:54
It is march 1
good2speed
01-03-2006 13:33:10
this a clear attack at the forum traders.
Think about it.
We trade for x(freepay) site for a freepay freeipod right?
Leave the xsite alone while we work to finish our ipod site.
A month or two (or even 4/5) later we decide hey why dont I finish that site I used in a trade like 3 - 4 months ago. Since we were succesful in finishing the first site on this forum, we think it wouldnt be that hard to finish the second.
Well looks like freepay has finally found a solution to limit the resources of us EXPERTS.
[
Basically we got too efficient for them.
petezahut2
01-03-2006 13:34:11
They should at least allow you to "buy" another 90 days by completing another offer. More like FreeGay!
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 13:34:49
[quote9222546c89="good2speed"]this a clear attack at the forum traders.
Think about it.
We trade for x(freepay) site for a freepay freeipod right?
Leave the xsite alone while we work to finish our iPod site.
A month or two (or even 4/5) later we decide hey why dont I finish that site I used in a trade like 3 - 4 months ago. Since we were succesful in finishing the first site on this forum, we think it wouldnt be that hard to finish the second.
Well looks like freepay has finally found a solution to limit the resources of us EXPERTS.
[
Basically we got too efficient for them.[/quote9222546c89]
BINGO.
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 13:35:35
They should have done some ood if they were getting greedy instead of this crap.
and still no 360s have been sent...OC sends us $475 for waiting, freepay gives us a 90-day limit and a voucher...thx freepay
EasyAs456
01-03-2006 13:35:59
Well you can all stop your bitching and perhaps start trading more ;). Or get out there and start begging for referrals.
[quote133f1d9252="good2speed"]this a clear attack at the forum traders.
Think about it.
We trade for x(freepay) site for a freepay freeipod right?
Leave the xsite alone while we work to finish our iPod site.
A month or two (or even 4/5) later we decide hey why dont I finish that site I used in a trade like 3 - 4 months ago. Since we were succesful in finishing the first site on this forum, we think it wouldnt be that hard to finish the second.
[/quote133f1d9252]
Oh please. roll
All this will just force you to actually finish a site when you started it instead of sitting on it forever.
VrExe
01-03-2006 13:37:14
Damn, I guess Freepay didn't see this coming. Jake said they had to do this to help Freepay continue to prosper but people are outraged and if they don't continue to participate, this decision would turn out to become worse for Freepay than it had been before they did anything.
EatChex89
01-03-2006 13:38:34
[quote773470fba3="VrExe"]Damn, I guess Freepay didn't see this coming. Jake said they had to do this to help Freepay continue to prosper but people are outraged and if they don't continue to participate, this decision would turn out to become worse for Freepay than it had been before they did anything.[/quote773470fba3]
this is the end of FreePay for us, not n00bs who see the ads..
justinag06
01-03-2006 13:39:28
yeah we had our day in the sun I guess play time is over,
trainn probably won't be far behind on this either.
it sucks for me on sites like laptop where I started it, got about 5 or 6 refs. But am in no way going to attempt to get 15 refs so its just a wash.
i guess ill get my last two on ps3, and that shall be it...
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 13:40:44
Since we now have a 90-day limit on completing the site, does that mean you have a 90-day limit to get us our merchandise? wink
Jet05
01-03-2006 13:41:32
does this mean we have to place an order within the 90 days too....also, jake, any word on the ipod nano 1gb replacing the ipod shuffle?
24fan24
01-03-2006 13:41:52
Just to voice my opinion, I am very upset by these TOS changed and as a result I will be forced to move to Trainn or GiftFiesta for all my free product needs.
gregcool
01-03-2006 13:44:07
I could live with the time limit thing, but what is the difference b/t submitting for approval online and mailing in a form? May as well just do the DIY sites now, so you know you won't get any bad refs )
killerman
01-03-2006 13:44:35
[quote4428a3a8a1="Jake"][quote4428a3a8a1="good2speed"]this a clear attack at the forum traders.
Think about it.
We trade for x(freepay) site for a freepay freeipod right?
Leave the xsite alone while we work to finish our iPod site.
A month or two (or even 4/5) later we decide hey why dont I finish that site I used in a trade like 3 - 4 months ago. Since we were succesful in finishing the first site on this forum, we think it wouldnt be that hard to finish the second.
[/quote4428a3a8a1]
Oh please. roll
All this will just force you to actually finish a site when you started it instead of sitting on it forever.[/quote4428a3a8a1]
so i guess you're doing us all a favor? )
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 13:45:30
[quote3747f25abb="gregcool"]I could live with the time limit thing, but what is the difference b/t submitting for approval online and mailing in a form? May as well just do the DIY sites now, so you know you won't get any bad refs )[/quote3747f25abb]
My thoughts exactly.
does this also mean that outstanding credits should now be instant and that the 15 day wait should not exist? that is what I think...
good2speed
01-03-2006 13:47:25
[quotecdccec82ff="Jake"][quotecdccec82ff="good2speed"]this a clear attack at the forum traders.
Think about it.
We trade for x(freepay) site for a freepay freeipod right?
Leave the xsite alone while we work to finish our iPod site.
A month or two (or even 4/5) later we decide hey why dont I finish that site I used in a trade like 3 - 4 months ago. Since we were succesful in finishing the first site on this forum, we think it wouldnt be that hard to finish the second.
[/quotecdccec82ff]
Oh please. roll
All this will just force you to actually finish a site when you started it instead of sitting on it forever.[/quotecdccec82ff]
Doesn't this policy make it a lot harder for us to complete the site.
Not sure about other users but when I make trades with another user I try to get them to finish infinite number of sites but unfortunately they are new and only want to do one site for now.
So it takes a perfect storm of events for us to get all those referrals.
Just take the day off Jake. Nothing you can say tha will make us feel better. Well maybe if you lie but I'm sure your higher ups wont be too happy with that.
Right now You seem like Jim Carrey in Fun With Dick and Jane when he has to explain why his company went bankrupt.
EasyAs456
01-03-2006 13:48:56
It's really not the end of the world... all you have to do is finish faster now. This will help them be more efficient and not be in debt =p
JOSHBOX
01-03-2006 13:49:01
I understand the business side of this change but Jake After 90 days can we do a site again??
Powerbook
01-03-2006 13:49:44
[quote34200159d8="24fan24"]Just to voice my opinion, I am very upset by these TOS changed and as a result I will be forced to move to Trainn or GiftFiesta for all my free product needs.[/quote34200159d8]
same here man( If i was freepay i would put a 90 day limit for you to complete an offer or your account closes. Then i would implement a ODD for the last referral or last couple on the bigger item sites. This would be vey much so a lot better and more fair to the user. This would still make them good money. Now i see this 90 day implement as a very greedy move. Imagine the cash flow by doing this. This would also turn many people away, the ones who already do freebie sites and not the newbies. I don't think this was the best business decision....
good2speed
01-03-2006 13:50:39
[quotec02d2b5dff="gregcool"]I could live with the time limit thing, but what is the difference b/t submitting for approval online and mailing in a form? May as well just do the DIY sites now, so you know you won't get any bad refs )[/quotec02d2b5dff]
signatures is one I'm assuming.
I've recommended to Jake that there should be an email addy that will be able to accept scans of the completed forms.
Jake said hes working on that
kposse77
01-03-2006 13:51:42
[quote30628f8c97="good2speed"]Just take the day off Jake. Nothing you can say tha will make us feel better. Well maybe if you lie but I'm sure your higher ups wont be too happy with that.[/quote30628f8c97]
IAWTC. You don't want to be known from here on in as Freepay's Scott McClellan.
chillywilly
01-03-2006 13:52:33
[quoteee50a4e73b="EatChex89"]Jake, and all the rest of freepay, do you realize it took me 6 hard and long months just to get my iPod?? I mean come on, it takes some to convince people. I don't know what the hell you guys were thinking, [bee50a4e73b]maybe you were high?[/bee50a4e73b][/quoteee50a4e73b]
maybe those weed pictures over on Off Topic were at the FreePay HQ... lol
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 13:52:46
Actually, I wouldn't care as much about this change except for tha fact that I still haven't received my 360.
hmm. how will this change the current orders that are being effected by the glitch that were already approved now pending approval?
petrie
01-03-2006 13:54:11
[quote44a65bbfb5="gregcool"]I could live with the time limit thing, but what is the difference b/t submitting for approval online and mailing in a form? May as well just do the DIY sites now, so you know you won't get any bad refs )[/quote44a65bbfb5]
It gives them 1/3 of the total completion time to disqualify more people, thereby making it too late for them to get new refs and resubmit for approval. They say we have 90 days, but they eat up a month with paperwork, so you really have 60 days...but you can't submit for approval until 30 days go by, so really, you don't even have that long. By cutting it down so much, they have less successful completions and pay out less rewards. That's the difference. Well, besides it being obviously less efficient and a total step back in how we use technology to communicate these days...
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 13:54:27
[quote64c11fe486="Drummer16161616"]Actually, I wouldn't care as much about this change except for tha fact that I still haven't received my 360.[/quote64c11fe486]
Priorities
1) Find ways to make more money
2) Customer satisfaction
manOFice
01-03-2006 13:55:15
Well...i've recieved 3 gift from freepay, never one problem with them...but i will now not purse any more freepay sites....good thing the labtop site is the only site i havn't completed an offer on. Time to look at some other sites, hello train and others )
tramahound
01-03-2006 13:55:20
I'm finally seeing [quote2e238b2d51]You have until 5/30/2006 to complete the full requirements, including all credits for your referrals.[/quote2e238b2d51] on my offers.
hey, we have a digital sender here at work that can scan in documents and send them via email. how 'bout hooking a guy up and letting me send my form in that way Jake!
if only my id number fit on the form cry
man, the "NEED" in my sig just took on a whole new meaning! shock
well
a new addition to my freeipod that has been pending since 2/6
You have until 5/30/2006 to complete the full requirements, including all credits for your referrals.
lol, but there is no form to print and mail tomorrow. will I have to? strange
okdude
01-03-2006 13:59:10
THIS IS BULLSHIT... BULLSHIT.....!!!!! THIS IS NOT FAIR, WE DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR FINANCEAL PROBLEMS, WE SIGNED UP READING A FUCKING TOS THAT DIDNT INCLUDE ALL THIS NEW SHIT.
WHY DO YOU CHANGE IT NOW?
DONT FUCK WITH US, YOU THINK I HAVE BIG WEBSITES WHERE I CAN PUT MY BANNER/LINK AND GET 7 DUDES IN 3 MONTHS?
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 13:59:35
[quotec442499958="jy3"]hmm. how will this change the current orders that are being effected by the glitch that were already approved now pending approval?[/quotec442499958]
Yeah I'd like to know this too since I'm "Pending Approval" on PS3 after having ordered weeks ago...
killerman
01-03-2006 14:02:09
all hail giftfiesta.
Tholek
01-03-2006 14:02:47
[quote0f412707c5="Jake"]Oh please. roll
All this will just force you to actually finish a site when you started it instead of sitting on it forever.[/quote0f412707c5]
Jake, with all due respect, I haven't "sat" on laptops.freepay. It's just hard to get 20 refs when you can't afford to trade or buy them all, which I'm sure you know.
This policy shouldn't be applied to laptops.freepay at all.
Additionally, I think that if a person signed up for a site a [i0f412707c5]long[/i0f412707c5] time ago, plus hasn't got a ref on it in a similarly long time, they ought to be able to create a new account when the account lapses.
You see, I signed up for your handbag/gaming/shuffle/camera/nano sites, and haven't gotten a ref, nor expended effort in trying, since your laptop site went online. I need a laptop far more, and naturally thought I could finish the others off subsequently.
Had I know you'd enact this policy, I wouldn't have signed up for them when I did, which logically goes without saying.
If you are going to penalize me for not completing them, then do so, but don't prevent me from [u0f412707c5][b0f412707c5]ever[/b0f412707c5][/u0f412707c5] doing them. That makes no sense to me, nor does it make business sense to you, beacuse you'd lose revenue.
A "Clean Slate" policy would surely help beat back the negative response this new policy will generate.
manOFice
01-03-2006 14:03:33
[quote43cd94b91d="killerman"]all hail giftfiesta.[/quote43cd94b91d]
w00t!! I'm with ya, haha
on a side note i just saw the approval form.....geshh
good2speed
01-03-2006 14:03:54
[quotea62f3ac7f2="drunkmonkey"][quotea62f3ac7f2="Drummer16161616"]Actually, I wouldn't care as much about this change except for tha fact that I still haven't received my 360.[/quotea62f3ac7f2]
Priorities
1) Find ways to make more money
2) Customer satisfaction[/quotea62f3ac7f2]
Damn you must run a good buisness but if you want to screw customers
we need a relist
1) Find ways to make more money
2) Find good golf courses.
3) find good restaurants
4) find new ways to speak with the devil
5) find ways to infuriate the customer without totally alienating their base
6) Find ways to make more money
and last but very least
7) customer staisfcation
hues24
01-03-2006 14:04:14
UMMMM. WTF is this?
[quotecda826deb8]
You have until 1/14/2006 to complete the full requirements, including all credits for your referrals.[/quotecda826deb8]
It says this on my status page...I was approved and in the processing stage 2/10 and then the glitch hit and it changed to "Pending Approval."
EDIT This is on the Premium iPods site
JAKE or SOMEONE Can you please clarify this Pending Approval glitch & explain what is going on????
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 14:06:16
I wonder if A4F will kiss ass to Freepay about this too.
MyungChunHa
01-03-2006 14:08:11
very, very good words Tholek....it really wouldn't make a lot of business sense...i don't see why they would apply it to such a high ref site, freepay will lose much loyalty if this stays in effect...either that or lower the refs required, which is probably impossible to do...
theman2005
01-03-2006 14:10:39
just when i was about to start finishing off my mac minis and ipod shuffle site.. this $h1t rolls ....................
sigh... i've lost all faith in FreePay............ time to do DIY sites instead. I don't like being timed to do something.
DrkWarlock
01-03-2006 14:16:51
SO how long then are we going to have to wait for approval if we now have to mail everything to you guys?
chillywilly
01-03-2006 14:18:50
[quote4204330b15="Jake"]Oh please. roll
All this will just force you to actually finish a site when you started it instead of sitting on it forever.[/quote4204330b15]
You need to define what "finish the site" means.
For example, if says we get the needed referrals for a site and snail mail the completed form off to FreePay.
Once they get it, they change something on the web site to show that we need to apply for approval.
Then once it gets approved, say one of the referrals was bad and we need to get another one. Does this mean we have to re-send via snail mail, another form, wait for our account online to be ready to submit for approval again?
And does all of this time go against the 90 days or is there some form of extension given so we can complete the site?
I mean, I've been very fortunate with FreePay and with the exception of my iPod back in late 2004, I've not really had to wait for any products.
But if I were working to get my Mac mini at this time, I wouldn't have gotten it since it took from January until the end of April before I got. That's more than 90 days.
I'm just asking questions to see how I'm going to approach FreePay sites in the future.
I guess I can see the advantage to the user IF everything goes smooth and there is nothing on FreePay's side to burn up the 90 days. You possibly get your freebie faster.
Otherwise, it looks like FreePay is hoping that all of those single offer signups will be more profit for them, which I thought that was the case anyone since not everyone finishes each site.
shortys408
01-03-2006 14:20:07
just 1 more ref on pcs and im done with all of freepays sites )
shortys408
01-03-2006 14:24:27
Is there any other way?!?! you could sell our info? That would make more money. Everyone already has my info anyway from all those diy sites.
n3il89
01-03-2006 14:29:35
time to hop on the TRAINN???
i just wanna get done with my video iPod and get my xbox 360 and I'm done w/ the whole freebie business. Either that or ride the TRAINN.
[quoteb86e5cd8cb="shortys408"]just 1 more ref on pcs and im done with all of freepays sites )[/quoteb86e5cd8cb]
plus the giftcard one i owe ya that i manually submitted today....
I am curious how all this will end up. it should be interesting )
EatChex89
01-03-2006 14:30:14
clean slate is good for me.
[quote350aa90039="Tholek"]
Jake, with all due respect, I haven't "sat" on laptops.freepay. It's just hard to get 20 refs when you can't afford to trade or buy them all, which I'm sure you know.
[/quote350aa90039]
I wasn't referring to you with my statement but I totally understand where you are coming from. My comment was directed at the situation that good2speed described in his post.
[quote350aa90039="Tholek"]
This policy shouldn't be applied to laptops.freepay at all.
[/quote350aa90039]
I wholeheartedly agree. My superiors do not.
[quote350aa90039="Tholek"]
A "Clean Slate" policy would surely help beat back the negative response this new policy will generate.[/quote350aa90039]
I will see what can be done in this regard but I can't make any promises.
I certainly don't want to be known as the Scott McClellan of Freepay lol
I'll keep you updated as I hear stuff.
chillywilly
01-03-2006 14:32:16
[quote4eefe3a96c="EatChex89"]clean slate is good for me.[/quote4eefe3a96c]
Yeah. Similar to what OC is now doing... letting you go for another freebie.
chillywilly
01-03-2006 14:33:18
[quotee0d555a358="Jake"]I certainly don't want to be known as the Scott McClellan of Freepay lol
I'll keep you updated as I hear stuff.[/quotee0d555a358]
A new way of saying "don't shoot the messenger"??
RM200
01-03-2006 14:33:21
Upon completion of all offer requirements, existing users will need to print a “Redemption Form” that must be filled out in its entirety and mailed with a postmarked date no later than 30 days of completing their offer requirements.
=/
I thought it said that the laptop promotion was over.. i was going to go ape shit.
Fugger
01-03-2006 14:33:47
This is more of a jank in the face of people who don't know a lot of people. My best friends mom just completed digitalcameras and got her camera, but it took her 6 months. It has taken me damn near 7-8 months to get 1 green away from cameras, so now I'm going to have to pay to get it done.
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 14:34:53
Jake can you let us know what is going to happen with the "Pending Approval" bug?
tsanghan
01-03-2006 14:37:41
On my digitalcameras.freepay.com account I have 16 out of 10 referrals when I requested Approval it was being approved for like 7 to 8 days then Jake said he needed to send me and W2 form. Then I said OK a few days later he said nevermind its not over 600 dollars. On there website says the approval takes about 7 to 10 DAYS I go check my account it gives me the fucking "REQUEST APPROVAL BUTTON" again then I request approval again now, then there websites went into repairs or whatevers for like 2 days. I DONT WHAT THE FUCK GOING TO APPROVAL STAGE TWICE. IM STILL WAITING OVER 10 days its been like 1 month for approval since I pressed it twice.
I dont know how there new gay policy will apply to this
TWICE AS LONG IF I HAVE TO FILL OUT THE BS REDEMPTION FORM DUE TO JAKES ERROR I WOULDVE RECIEVED THE CAMERA BEFORE THIS NEW POLICY
Jake wrote
Submit your account for approval again.
If I told you to wait for a form, then I was mistaken. Please accept my apologies.
Sincerely,
Jake
great job lagging it until the new policy goes into play for people.
submitting for approval is bullshit or a glitch in there system.
response from Jake
I didn't lag it deliberately. This was due to errors and other circumstances.
Sincerely,
Jake
well shit it aint my fault fix it then its fucking bullshit
i believe he did it on purpose, i bet he knew this policy was going into place he is the PR guy. not to bag on jake well i got screwed over i better get my camera
stupid there system glitches now if i have to do the redemption form and going into approval twice because of someones errors is the biggiest scam of my life
unhappy customers = no money
this is the END to freepay. after I get my camera. Im headed to Trainn and DIY sites )
Stroid
01-03-2006 14:38:53
yeah i need two refs for pcs and for nano then ill probably be done for a while with the freebie scene in general but ill still come here
Iloveipods2
01-03-2006 14:39:17
WOW, i've royally screwed myself over. I decided last month to start FReepay's laptop site. arghhhhhhh!!!
^&li@^#&li@(#^@&li$)#^@#@&li#^@#^li evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil
90 DAYS, ARE YOU KIDDDING? if that would have been the case, i've been waiting [b6bab5cc30b][u6bab5cc30b]44 DAYS AND COUNTING FOR CREDIT[/b6bab5cc30b][/u6bab5cc30b]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is the dumbest move freepay has ever pulled. Now don't get me wrong, I love freepay and how much time and effort Jake goes through to help us out.
BUT 90 FREAKING DAYS, and they're not grandfathering anyone in who signed up before.
anyways after i finish laptops(if i'm able to), finally get credit for desktoppcs, it's all OC for me unless freepay fixes this within those 90 days. anyways i don't see why people here like trainn more than OC, OC offers paypal, has more sites, lets you complete certain sites twice. and the has the same exact offers. trainn has OOD and i don't see anyone complaining........ go over and check the OC forum out. but w/e i've only tried 1 trainn site, and found out quickly i could get 1 full credit for the same offer at OC, while i had to do two(of the same tier offers) for trainn.
jfaninord
01-03-2006 14:39:35
Jake this is March 1st, not April.
Anyway, I don't like this and I'm glad that I've only tried to get signups on 1 freepay site at a time. The one I'm currently working on will be my last.
Shaggy135
01-03-2006 14:40:23
What about the people who were in the approval process before today. I have one account that I submitted for approval yesterday and now today it says that I have to print out a voucher?
tsanghan
01-03-2006 14:45:34
Iloveipods2, i agree with you
read my post due to Jakes error and freepay error
iits stupid
[quotee53435078d="tsanghan"]
well shit it aint my fault fix it then its fucking bullshit
i believe he did it on purpose, i bet he knew this policy was going into place he is the PR guy. not to bag on jake well i got screwed over i better get my camera
[/quotee53435078d]
I didn't do it on purpose. Don't make false accusations. I have nothing against you and I wouldn't have 'gone after' you like you seem to think.
good2speed
01-03-2006 14:50:48
Even though I'm upset at the new announcement I will still say freepay is better than OC.
Just for one reason.
When OC pulled their stunt. There was no one to talk to. We were pretty much left in the dark and were getting dq'd left and right.
At least with this situation right now we still have Jake, who if anything has been a true asset to the community. Sorry if I was harsh at all to you Jake but I still disagree with your companies new policy.
[quote10c6ab3474="Iloveipods2"]
90 DAYS, ARE YOU KIDDDING? if that would have been the case, i've been waiting [b10c6ab3474][u10c6ab3474]44 DAYS AND COUNTING FOR CREDIT[/b10c6ab3474][/u10c6ab3474][/quote10c6ab3474]
Then ask about it again and again and again until it gets done.
shortys408
01-03-2006 14:51:51
Any chance that this policy is revoked in the near future )???
kevxross
01-03-2006 14:51:55
/me clears all Freepay sites from bookmarks.
meh shrug
Berky34
01-03-2006 14:52:37
If we already have been approved on ps3 then do we have to send in that form of whatever?
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 14:52:39
see, here is the problem
i working on muliple Freepay sites at once. So that means that I have to finish all of them by 5/30/2006 (, that is extremely impossible. Is there away to temorary hold all my accounts except for one of them so that i can work on that?
WillTradeRefs
01-03-2006 14:52:53
Don't you all see, by not completing Freepay sites now you are giving them exactly what they were going for when they decided to do this. If you really want to thwart this effort you will try to complete them all including laptops... LOOK.. the reason why freepay is doing this is blatantly obvious.. they lose money when they send out gifts.. if you really want to make them mad you will complete your sites, not give up on them. I personally, have decided to kick my PS3, PCs, GiftCards, and Ipodnanos accounts into high-gear to show them they can't do this to me and get away with it... not without sending me gifts. I'm sitting on the fence as far as laptops..
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 14:53:29
[quotef28b72b8b7="Jake"][quotef28b72b8b7="tsanghan"]
well shit it aint my fault fix it then its fucking bullshit
i believe he did it on purpose, i bet he knew this policy was going into place he is the PR guy. not to bag on jake well i got screwed over i better get my camera
[/quotef28b72b8b7]
I didn't do it on purpose. Don't make false accusations. I have nothing against you and I wouldn't have 'gone after' you like you seem to think.[/quotef28b72b8b7]
Ya dude, Jake's like the only helpful person.
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 14:55:00
[quoteb2dedd43fc="jy3"]hmm. how will this change the current orders that are being effected by the glitch that were already approved now pending approval?[/quoteb2dedd43fc]
Jake-
I'd like to know this too since I'm suddenly "Pending Approval" on PS3 after having ordered weeks ago...
WillTradeRefs
01-03-2006 14:55:22
true, i really think jake is just the messenger. Don't shoot the messenger.
Supacold
01-03-2006 14:55:28
the only thing i dont approve is the mailing in redemption.
i dont see why that is necessary when submittinf for approve online is much quicker. And there is a possibility that the form getting lost or delayed, or is that the purpose of the form?
good2speed
01-03-2006 14:55:42
At least with this situation right now we still have Jake, who if anything has been a true asset to the community. Sorry if I was harsh at all to you Jake but I still disagree with your companies new policy.
I gave Jake +Kma just for standing in here and answering our questions.
Nor do I think Jake is trying to mislead us.
Cow-Tipper
01-03-2006 14:56:30
"You know what would cheer everone up right now............ ORANGE MOCA FRAPACINOS!!!!!!"
Name the movie
No, what would cheer eveyone up would to get the 360s out. Just a suggestion
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 14:57:14
i submited for the Premium and i'm in Processing, but i got no FORMS, whats up with that?
WillTradeRefs
01-03-2006 14:57:35
Jake if you tell me your superior's name & home address I will save my dog's turds for a month and deliver them to his doorstep.
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 14:57:35
Zoolander -P
hrdfarkr
01-03-2006 14:58:26
Zoolander....and this all sucks.
Jake, thanks for taking heaps of shit and staying to keep information coming. Please pass a message to your superiors for me, "You suck!".
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 14:59:45
can u guys wait for answers to questions asked before making useless posts?
Tholek
01-03-2006 15:00:28
[quote6f21a8e734="Jake"][quote6f21a8e734="Tholek"]
Jake, with all due respect, I haven't "sat" on laptops.freepay. It's just hard to get 20 refs when you can't afford to trade or buy them all, which I'm sure you know.
[/quote6f21a8e734]
I wasn't referring to you with my statement but I totally understand where you are coming from. My comment was directed at the situation that good2speed described in his post.[/quote6f21a8e734]
I know. Your response seemed to apply to more than just good2speed though. ;)
[quote6f21a8e734="Jake"][quote6f21a8e734="Tholek"]
This policy shouldn't be applied to laptops.freepay at all.
[/quote6f21a8e734]
I wholeheartedly agree. My superiors do not.[/quote6f21a8e734]
Haven't you told Peter how hard I've suffered? How can he not weep for me???
[quote6f21a8e734="Jake"][quote6f21a8e734="Tholek"]
A "Clean Slate" policy would surely help beat back the negative response this new policy will generate.[/quote6f21a8e734]
I will see what can be done in this regard but I can't make any promises.[/quote6f21a8e734]
"Clean Slate, Clean Slate, Clean Slate, Clean Slate, Clean Slate, Clean Slate, Clean Slate!"li
li"Clean Slate" is a registered trademark of Tholek Enterprises.[/size6f21a8e734]
[quote6f21a8e734="Jake"]I certainly don't want to be known as the Scott McClellan of Freepay lol
I'll keep you updated as I hear stuff.[/quote6f21a8e734]
I shall keep the faith......for now.
[quote6f21a8e734="Fugger"]This is more of a jank in the face of people who don't know a lot of people. My best friends mom just completed digitalcameras and got her camera, but it took her 6 months. It has taken me damn near 7-8 months to get 1 green away from cameras, so now I'm going to have to pay to get it done.[/quote6f21a8e734]
We're in the same boat, and it's sprung a leak, but I don't have the dollars to plug the hole. (
[quotecbe7825042]jy3 wrote
hmm. how will this change the current orders that are being effected by the glitch that were already approved now pending approval?
Jake-
I'd like to know this too since I'm suddenly "Pending Approval" on PS3 after having ordered weeks ago...[/quotecbe7825042]
I am in this same situation, except mine is for the xbox360. This is a serious issue that needs to be handled asap to quell any more speculation and rumors. I was approved before the "glitch" and now im showing pending approval with a 5/30 date for the finish. As well as not seeing any kind of form to print or whatever. Could you please clarify this mess Jake, it will help alot of us understand more clearly what we need to do/not do.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 15:02:41
SHOULDN'T THIS POLICY BE EFFECTIVE TO NEW COMERS TO THE SITE AFTER 3/1/2006??
Because, when "existing users" signed up, they signed accordning to the Terms of Service as is, are they allowed to change it like that?
tsanghan
01-03-2006 15:03:13
well its kinda werid how my account happens to go into approval twice after you said there no form its anoyying if i have to go thru the new policy i completed and submitted like 1 month for approval total and its says 7 to 10 days i didnt mean to attack
like many forum memebers that completed sites and requested approval from your companys errors we have to go thru the new TOS if you and your ompany didnt have a glitch i wouldve had my camera. the only reason im pissed is off is the new TOS and i would proab have to wait another like forever like many people on the forums to get the camera.
and i wont be getting my camera for graduation.
I'm not doing another FreePay site, if this is, in fact, the case. I just want to let Jake know that, before this, he's been a great help, but this is ridiculous. 90 days is not enough time to complete anything. It took me a good 3 and a half months to get 8 referrals for PremiumiPods. There is no way I'm going to try for anything else. I was considering the GiftCards site, cuz there's some stuff from Amazon I would like, but not anymore. I would normally say we should organize a boycott of FreePay, at least here, unless they change this policy, but in the long run, it will probably end up hurting those who need a few more refferals for their items. I do say we boycott starting any new FreePay sites, but you can be someone elses referral for a site they've already started. I just have to ask one question
I've already submitted for approval, got approved, and have been "Processing" (yeah right) for over a month now (on PremiumiPods, starting 1/27). Do I have to submit a form to FreePay or not? I better not, because that's a pain in the ass, it's cold out, and I REALLY don't feel like walking to the post office, plus I've already been approved, so there would be no reason to check over my account AGAIN. Any word on this, Jake?
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 15:05:52
TRAININ, HERE I COME
Stroid
01-03-2006 15:08:54
[quotef61c7ed01e="mpbollywoodking"]SHOULDN'T THIS POLICY BE EFFECTIVE TO NEW COMERS TO THE SITE AFTER 3/1/2006??
Because, when "existing users" signed up, they signed accordning to the Terms of Service as is, are they allowed to change it like that?[/quotef61c7ed01e] no the TOS said that they can change it at anytime they want and it has always been like that.
Tholek
01-03-2006 15:10:51
[quote221ef552f4="mpbollywoodking"]TRAININ, HERE I COME[/quote221ef552f4]
TRAINN has no laptop site. cry
EatChex89
01-03-2006 15:13:22
[quote093f3cc2f7="Stroid"][quote093f3cc2f7="mpbollywoodking"]SHOULDN'T THIS POLICY BE EFFECTIVE TO NEW COMERS TO THE SITE AFTER 3/1/2006??
Because, when "existing users" signed up, they signed accordning to the Terms of Service as is, are they allowed to change it like that?[/quote093f3cc2f7] no the TOS said that they can change it at anytime they want and it has always been like that.[/quote093f3cc2f7]
you beat me to it.
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 15:14:13
Eh, IF I get my xbox 360 and giftcard, then MAYBE i'll do the new IPOD site if they make one. They just need to show that they are still trustworthy.
Uhh, where are the forms? I know it says on the Status page but I see [ba5e27e98b3]nothing[/ba5e27e98b3].
This is so fucked up. I've been waiting and waiting for my iPod and PSP and now this? It's unfair to those who have been waiting. I think this should have been applied to new users only.
I'm pretty sure trainn will release a laptop site with this. Doesn't GiftFiesta have one?
doylnea
01-03-2006 15:17:34
Some comments
DO NOT MAKE ANOTHER RUDE COMMENT DIRECTED AT JAKE.
As good2speed has wisely pointed out, Jake is here to help, and has gone out of his way (granted as part of his job duties) to do so. It's a rare large scale "free-site" company that makes a point to have a rep (yes it's self-serving and in the end, they make more money because of it).
THE VULGARITY IS NOT NEEDED, NOR NECESSARY TO MAKE YOUR POINT
Stop it. Grow up. Learn to use words other than gay or bullshit to make your point.
YES THIS IS A BIG CHANGE
No one, not even Jake, knows how this is all going to play out. Please post constructive suggestions for Freepay. DO NOT POST ACCOUNT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
FREEPAY HAS EVERY RIGHT WITHIN THE TOS TO WHICH YOU AGREED TO CHANGE THEIR TERMS
That's part of agreeing to the terms, particularly the clause where they state
[quote370b145e0a="Freepay/Gratis"]Gratis Internet, Inc ("Gratis Internet") reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to change its Terms & Conditions at any time, for any reason, without notice.[/quote370b145e0a]
I'm going to go home now and take a break from the forums, I suggest everyone take a deep breath and wait a day or two, to see how everything plays out.
Thanks
WillTradeRefs
01-03-2006 15:20:25
...
doylnea
01-03-2006 15:22:50
I strongly advise you to revise or remove your post WTR.
Is every form unique? Can someone just send me the form? I [bd29ddee5b9]CANNOT[/bd29ddee5b9] find it.
WillTradeRefs
01-03-2006 15:28:41
I can send you a W9... but you aren't getting anything worth $600 or more from me.. so it would be futile
jeff7602
01-03-2006 15:30:03
Right now my main concern is what happens after the 90 day mark. I have signed up for almost all of freepay's sites, but right now I am working getting referals for only my second one. There is no way I am going to be able to finish ALL of them in 90 days. I never would have signed up for all of them at the same time if there were a time limit. I just figured i would finish one, then move on to the next one. Now I may be screwed out of doinging almost all of them. That would suck. There really should be a clean slate policy at least for people that have signed up before today.
bullseye4u
01-03-2006 15:30:21
I mean they can change tos like "we do not send any more gifts" in any moment and we all can say we are screwed than??? they dont give us nothing thats it and we cant do anything about it. Its not that i have anything against freepay. I know they will work it out some how but i dont feel comftorable when the policy changes big time. I mean i dont mind sending the form but having a limited time now that hurts.
WillTradeRefs
01-03-2006 15:33:16
honestly, I really think that such a change in terms might be deemed illegal. If they try to screw me out of gifts we might find out.. i don't live that far from D.C... I'm willing to drive up there and subpoena them even if I don't get anything out of it but the satisfaction of wasting their day.
Tholek
01-03-2006 15:35:06
Peter, don't forget us...
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SZDominik
01-03-2006 15:35:21
Its also nice to send the form from outside the USA to Freepay. Paying shipping and than they freeze you^^.
Looks like freepay is going down in 90 days^^.
I hope to get my ipod and maybe a psp and then good bye.
I am a little bit sad.
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 15:35:52
I just hope this policy means better crediting and fast approval times...
Sure, go ahead. Make sure you wait until [iebf63924ae]after[/iebf63924ae] we all get our stuff first. lol
So, Jake where's the form? cry I can't find it!
yeah i dont have a form for my ipod that was affected by the glitch after i submitted and was approved.
waiting since 2/6 and now this (
I hope we get a clean slate after the 90 period else i would not have signed up for all the freepay sites that i dont plan on working on for a while...
imateapot
01-03-2006 15:49:28
[quote5799697d1a="NIVO"][quote5799697d1a]jy3 wrote
hmm. how will this change the current orders that are being effected by the glitch that were already approved now pending approval?
Jake-
I'd like to know this too since I'm suddenly "Pending Approval" on PS3 after having ordered weeks ago...[/quote5799697d1a]
I am in this same situation, except mine is for the xbox360. This is a serious issue that needs to be handled asap to quell any more speculation and rumors. I was approved before the "glitch" and now im showing pending approval with a 5/30 date for the finish. As well as not seeing any kind of form to print or whatever. Could you please clarify this mess Jake, it will help alot of us understand more clearly what we need to do/not do.[/quote5799697d1a]
I am also in this same situation. I got approved for premiumipods.freepay (60gb black) just after midnight on Feb. 4th, and after the "glitch", my status changed from "Processing" to "Pending Approval". This new policy is making me question whether it was even a "glitch" in the first place. I really hope those who were already approved don't have to go through the whole voucher thing or whatever. I also do not see a form to print anyway, so maybe we are in the clear. Hopefully.
tsanghan
01-03-2006 16:06:08
ok approval again wtf stupid fucking glitch i have to mail in the BULLSHIT fucking form... after JAKES error and FREEPAYS error
approval for the 3rd FUCKING TIME
glitch my ass they proably had the policy ready and juss took a long ass time to approve accounts and to take even longer
"glitch"
JAKE please fix this BSS
due to your mistake i have to wait even longer
its proab your company doing it not you
LaFlame
01-03-2006 16:07:26
[quotea96b438093="tsanghan"]ok approval again wtf stupid fucking glitch i have to mail in the BULLSHIT fucking form... after JAKES error and FREEPAYS error
approval for the 3rd FUCKING TIME[/quotea96b438093]
dam...did u sent a support ticket thing??
i blame history
01-03-2006 16:08:41
i, too, join the ranks of "people who have been completely approved and waiting on their item since they placed their order on 8/25/2005 (xbox) and 1/18/2006 (ps3) and want to know if they have to send anything in."
my ps3 site does say 'pending approval', supposedly due to the "glitch" that has apparently not cleared up. my xbox360 status page simply says 'processing'.
this is crap. i cant get mad at jake, though. hes just doing his job.
J4320
01-03-2006 16:10:29
If you are processing you're fine.
tsanghan
01-03-2006 16:11:05
[quote3774dafc93="LaFlame"][quote3774dafc93="tsanghan"]ok approval again wtf stupid fucking glitch i have to mail in the BULLSHIT fucking form... after JAKES error and FREEPAYS error
approval for the 3rd FUCKING TIME[/quote3774dafc93]
dam...did u sent a support ticket thing??[/quote3774dafc93]
yep and contacted jake
read my posts from before like i wrote a paragraph its not a fucking glitch i think they did it on purpose so we all would have to mail in this BS form and take another LONGG ass time
DOWN WITH FREEPAY after i get my digital fucking camera after 3rd TIME REQUESTING FUCKING APPROVAL
i dont think there rating going up anytime soon
Trainn and other sites and DIY alot of people will be going to
Crynos
01-03-2006 16:12:43
[quote0f8fda1439="i blame history"]i, too, join the ranks of "people who have been completely approved and waiting on their item since they placed their order on 8/25/2005 (xbox) and 1/18/2006 (ps3) and want to know if they have to send anything in."
my ps3 site does say 'pending approval', supposedly due to the "glitch" that has apparently not cleared up. my xbox360 status page simply says 'processing'.
this is crap. i cant get mad at jake, though. hes just doing his job.[/quote0f8fda1439]I wanna know also, ordered my xbox 360 last june and wanna make sure i dont have to send anything (and i better not have to)
i blame history
01-03-2006 16:12:59
[quotec8bc05f3f1="J4320"]If you are processing you're fine.[/quotec8bc05f3f1]
if there an official word on this? sorry if i missed it, i thought i scanned all the pages in this thread quite well.
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 16:13:57
[quote2e57901444="J4320"]If you are processing you're fine.[/quote2e57901444]
I am processing on 360 still but on PS3 it says,
"Order # 50XXX ps3s.freepay.com 1/18/2006 15600 PM Pending Approval"
I was approved and ordered weeks ago. I want to know how this policy is going to effect this and when will this bug be fixed...
tsanghan
01-03-2006 16:16:46
due to jakes error and freepay glitch
first time "oh its not over 600 dollars no w2 form"
i check WTF request approval again
then like 13 days later
Even it says 7 to 10 days for approval
this new TOS comes out
hmmmmm...
whats going on here
PoPoJiJo
01-03-2006 16:19:00
this really fucks the people like me who get alot of refs through websites that take a long time to get all the neccesary refs
[quote9ebbd51a36="tsanghan"]
yep and contacted jake
read my posts from before like i wrote a paragraph its not a fucking glitch i think they did it on purpose so we all would have to mail in this BS form and take another LONGG ass time
DOWN WITH FREEPAY after i get my digital fucking camera after 3rd TIME REQUESTING FUCKING APPROVAL
i dont think there rating going up anytime soon
Trainn and other sites and DIY alot of people will be going to[/quote9ebbd51a36]
Can't you read? Do you have a limited vocabulary?
[quote9ebbd51a36="doylnea"]Some comments
DO NOT MAKE ANOTHER RUDE COMMENT DIRECTED AT JAKE.
As good2speed has wisely pointed out, Jake is here to help, and has gone out of his way (granted as part of his job duties) to do so. It's a rare large scale "free-site" company that makes a point to have a rep (yes it's self-serving and in the end, they make more money because of it).
THE VULGARITY IS NOT NEEDED, NOR NECESSARY TO MAKE YOUR POINT
Stop it. Grow up. Learn to use words other than gay or bullshit to make your point.
YES THIS IS A BIG CHANGE
No one, not even Jake, knows how this is all going to play out. Please post constructive suggestions for Freepay. DO NOT POST ACCOUNT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
FREEPAY HAS EVERY RIGHT WITHIN THE TOS TO WHICH YOU AGREED TO CHANGE THEIR TERMS
That's part of agreeing to the terms, particularly the clause where they state
[quote9ebbd51a36="Freepay/Gratis"]Gratis Internet, Inc ("Gratis Internet") reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to change its Terms & Conditions at any time, for any reason, without notice.[/quote9ebbd51a36]
I'm going to go home now and take a break from the forums, I suggest everyone take a deep breath and wait a day or two, to see how everything plays out.
Thanks[/quote9ebbd51a36]
J4320
01-03-2006 16:20:47
[quote43f1155b17="Wolfeman"][quote43f1155b17="J4320"]If you are processing you're fine.[/quote43f1155b17]
I am processing on 360 still but on PS3 it says,
"Order # 50XXX ps3s.freepay.com 1/18/2006 15600 PM Pending Approval"
I was approved and ordered weeks ago. I want to know how this policy is going to effect this and when will this bug be fixed...[/quote43f1155b17]
Yeah hopefully all goes well. I'm processing so I'm not really mad or anything. I am kind of mad that I have to send an approval form for my flatscreen but hey, what the hell can I do about it?
MiamiTJ
01-03-2006 16:21:27
here is another way to look at this ...
They have how many ps3's and 360's they have been payed for and have not sent out? Not even 1 !!!
Now they are creating a MAJOR rush to finish their sites ... Thats more $$ for them and more wait for us.
If I was gonna run with other peoples $$$$ this is how I would do it.
either way i am 2/8 on ps3.freepay -- I think Im gonna just take my losses and NEVER do another freepay site again. I was going to start pcs.freepay - thank god I did not ... I dont trust a company that askes for 20 refferals then puts a 90 day limit on getting them. I also think we should of been grandfather'd in.
psss -- I have completed 5 freepay sites in the past and have signed up/done offers for EVERY SINGLE SITE they have.
Iloveipods2
01-03-2006 16:21:48
[quote068d151c5a="PoPoJiJo"]this really fucks the people like me who get alot of refs through websites that take a long time to get all the neccesary refs[/quote068d151c5a]
fucks would be an understatement here. laptops is a waste of time for me. It would be more understanding if it was 1 year, but 90 days when it's taking me 4 1/2 weeks and counting for credit is more than unjustified.
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 16:22:01
[quote7f6525c1fb="tsanghan"]due to jakes error and freepay glitch
first time "oh its not over 600 dollars no w2 form"
i check WTF request approval again
then like 13 days later
Even it says 7 to 10 days for approval
this new TOS comes out
hmmmmm...
whats going on here[/quote7f6525c1fb]
Ya dude stfu, we all are in the same boat.
igneous
01-03-2006 16:22:15
Smart move on freepays part, get more people to not be able to fulfill the requirements and get more profit. Only for a short period though. People will realize its not worth it and stop doing their sites.
Marximus
01-03-2006 16:23:20
WHAT IS UP WITH THIS??????????????????????????? What is freepay trying to do to us??? We should all boycot freepay and see if they change it back.
MiamiTJ
01-03-2006 16:26:52
[baa719867be][iaa719867be][uaa719867be]How do I take "freepay fanboy off of my avatar quote?[/sizeaa719867be][/coloraa719867be][/uaa719867be][/iaa719867be][/baa719867be]
mistatnn
01-03-2006 16:27:40
well i think im gonna find 2 more xbox referrals and im done with freepay. train, here i come!
J4320
01-03-2006 16:28:42
[quote0f466723cf="MiamiTJ"][b0f466723cf][i0f466723cf][u0f466723cf]How do I take "freepay fanboy off of my avatar quote?[/size0f466723cf][/color0f466723cf][/u0f466723cf][/i0f466723cf][/b0f466723cf][/quote0f466723cf]
[b0f466723cf][i0f466723cf][u0f466723cf]Post more[/size0f466723cf][/color0f466723cf][/u0f466723cf][/i0f466723cf][/b0f466723cf]
Marximus
01-03-2006 16:29:19
i just started on a freaking laptop site for freepay. there's NO WAY I'm getting 20 referrals in only 90 days.
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 16:29:32
Pay for a custom title...
Marximus
01-03-2006 16:32:46
are there any signs that freepay may reverse this stupid rule?
J4320
01-03-2006 16:36:22
No
Tholek
01-03-2006 16:36:44
[quote29e21f54c3="PoPoJiJo"]this really fucks the people like me who get alot of refs through websites that take a long time to get all the neccesary refs[/quote29e21f54c3]
[b29e21f54c3]EXACTLY[/b29e21f54c3]. cry
[quote29e21f54c3="Iloveipods2"]fucks would be an understatement here. laptops is a waste of time for me. It would be more understanding if it was 1 year, but 90 days when it's taking me 4 1/2 weeks and counting for credit is more than unjustified.[/quote29e21f54c3]
I needed that long to "finish" NB4F, and the only reason their laptop isn't sitting in my lap is OC's OOD on the 18th ref. (
I feel we deserve just as long as it took me to get the refs on NB4F. If that were Gratis, I'd have the damned thing by now.
Crynos
01-03-2006 16:37:11
Is the w9 by order date? I hope i dont have to do a w9 if i receive my xbox360 and ipod in the same year, considering i shouldve had the xb360 last year.
Alex89
01-03-2006 16:37:31
isnt what theyre doing illigle??? im so pissed right now, l signed up to the stupid columbia house thing and wont be able to get 5 people refered withtin 90 days, l'm gonna contact em and demand for a refund to the columbia house shit
Alex89
01-03-2006 16:39:13
hmm whats the email for customer support? lol
akalic
01-03-2006 16:39:35
i'm worried, i guess i wont' finish freepay stuff anymore, back to trainn i go!
J4320
01-03-2006 16:48:12
Yeah well cheers to Freepay for the free stuff. Every site has it's good days I guess.
Goodbye Freepay...
LaFlame
01-03-2006 16:50:27
[quote488a9b57a6="akalic"]i'm worried, i guess i wont' finish freepay stuff anymore, back to trainn i go![/quote488a9b57a6]
its gonna be really hard 2 get 20refs for the laptop offer....but ya, trainn is the new future...
Alex89
01-03-2006 16:51:39
how can l reach customer support? anyone?
Wolfeman
01-03-2006 16:52:20
[quote733c364400="Alex89"]how can l reach customer support? anyone?[/quote733c364400]
Open a support ticket...
J4320
01-03-2006 16:53:37
[quote5c5f806c40="Wolfeman"][quote5c5f806c40="Alex89"]how can l reach customer support? anyone?[/quote5c5f806c40]
Open a support ticket...[/quote5c5f806c40]
Fill in the info...
Tholek
01-03-2006 16:53:48
TRAINN=No laptop=Tholek= (
LaFlame
01-03-2006 16:54:50
[quotec082762988="Tholek"]TRAINN=No laptop=Tholek= ([/quotec082762988]
hopfully trainn will consider of offering it...
i blame history
01-03-2006 16:55:54
[quote220172ce6d="Alex89"]isnt what theyre doing illigle??? im so pissed right now, l signed up to the stupid columbia house thing and wont be able to get 5 people refered withtin 90 days, l'm gonna contact em and demand for a refund to the columbia house shit[/quote220172ce6d]
dont count on it at all. seeing as you are supposed to do offers you are interested in anyways, you wont be getting a refund. plus, they just dont give out refunds. i dont even know how that would make sense.
edit i dont think they are doing anything illegal. a very low punch, yes, but they can change their TOS whenever they want.
RocLaFamilia
01-03-2006 16:56:14
Freepay sites used to be like a 9 or 10 outa 10 for me...not there down to a 2 or 3 cuz of this shit....
Marximus
01-03-2006 16:58:55
[quotea4a53fe464="RocLaFamilia"]Freepay sites used to be like a 9 or 10 outa 10 for me...not there down to a 2 or 3 cuz of this shit....[/quotea4a53fe464]
I agree.... how could they ever think this was a good idea? I'm eager to hear the explanation for this...
Alex89
01-03-2006 17:00:28
well this bullshit should only apply to new members and this sucks, the only reason I did an offer was to get an ipod and that wont be happening since now getting referas will be even harder cause theyll know that they wont be able to get a the referals in time.
[quote36d251ec80="Alex89"]isnt what theyre doing illigle??? im so pissed right now, l signed up to the stupid columbia house thing and wont be able to get 5 people refered withtin 90 days, l'm gonna contact em and demand for a refund to the columbia house shit[/quote36d251ec80]
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're thinking of "illegal". In that case, no ;). The full answer is somewhere on another page, but in the original TOS it stated they could change the TOS whenever they felt like it, for whatever reason they wanted.
Well, 2 more refs for freeipods...
Like everyone else, I don't know why they changed to mail-in approval slips...this delays the process, and if it takes the 4 weeks like it says, that's 30 days knocked off of the 90 you're given to complete the site...yes, I know this has been said, but geez, what a sucky adddition to the TOS (.
RocLaFamilia
01-03-2006 17:01:44
is changing the TOS after we sign up legal or able to be done? shouldnt all the accounts already made be like grandfathered in too?
EDIT Answered in Posts above.
Marximus
01-03-2006 17:02:20
[quote75feb70c3d="Alex89"]well this bullshit should only apply to new members and this sucks, the only reason I did an offer was to get an iPod and that wont be happening since now getting referas will be even harder cause theyll know that they wont be able to get a the referals in time.[/quote75feb70c3d]
Yeah, it was already hard to convince my friends to do this..... now when they ask if there's a time limit, they're not gonna want to hear another word about it!
Tholek
01-03-2006 17:02:41
Maybe I should bring my old sig pic back....
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Marximus
01-03-2006 17:03:38
[quote132ac07999="RocLaFamilia"]is changing the TOS after we sign up legal or able to be done? shouldnt all the accounts already made be like grandfathered in too?[/quote132ac07999]
that's a good point. we should try to figure out if they're allowed to do this to the sites we already are signed up on...
Alex89
01-03-2006 17:04:24
Dont wanna sound uniformed and whatnot but how can I fill in a support ticket or w/e?
RocLaFamilia
01-03-2006 17:05:16
[quoteb7af6d765c="Tholek"]Maybe I should bring my old sig pic back....
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haha... [img="b7af6d765c]http//www.rapgodfathers.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif[" alt=""/imgb7af6d765c]
Tholek, thanks for the hearty laugh.
Marximus, read my post above.
Over and out.
cyberpunk243
01-03-2006 17:12:21
Wow that is some fucking bullshit. Thanks Freepay. Wasted web site, wasted money on flyers advertising web site, wasted money on vinyl sticker for advertising, wasted referrals. I can't get all my referrals for all of the sites in 90 days. That is the worst idea ever.
theysayjump
01-03-2006 17:13:44
[quotec36c477227="ajrock2000"]I wonder if A4F will kiss ass to Freepay about this too.[/quotec36c477227]
They've been moved to Grade C on A4F.
okdude
01-03-2006 17:14:37
http//www.petitionspot.com[/sizef61209f2a0][/colorf61209f2a0]
somebody gotta do it![/sizef61209f2a0]
iruledaworld29
01-03-2006 17:15:07
what about normal people suck as my self that get our refearls by putting the links on our sites..
it will prolly take me more than 90 days..
this is just a new way to trap new people coming to there sites
you guys have gotten way to money hungry and personally its not like we have to do your sites if anything you should want us to do your sites instead of makingit harder and harder for us
im going to stick with sites from now on that actually care about the customers
[quote8ed68984dc="theysayjump"][quote8ed68984dc="ajrock2000"]I wonder if A4F will kiss ass to Freepay about this too.[/quote8ed68984dc]
They've been moved to Grade C on A4F.[/quote8ed68984dc]
Holy un-doable done deeds Batman!
Just kidding, but, WOW! Didn't see that coming.
10-4, over and out.
Alex89
01-03-2006 17:17:51
HELP can some1 answer my question, how do l get a support ticket??????????? thanks
I think if you click Account at the top of the pages, then on support tickets, you'll be able to create one there. I can't really remember off of the top of my head, and I don't feel like opening one of the sites to check.
cyberpunk243
01-03-2006 17:24:30
[quote51ac5d4231="iruledaworld29"]what about normal people suck as my self that get our refearls by putting the links on our sites..
it will prolly take me more than 90 days..
this is just a new way to trap new people coming to there sites
you guys have gotten way to money hungry and personally its not like we have to do your sites if anything you should want us to do your sites instead of makingit harder and harder for us
im going to stick with sites from now on that actually care about the customers[/quote51ac5d4231]
Yup. That's what I was so mad about considering I just created a fully designed web page for this with mostly Freepay links. I bought a vinyl sticker for the back window of my car and printed out well over 500+ flyers to promote my web site. Either they should extend the 90 days or speed up crediting times and stop taking so long with most of them.
Tholek
01-03-2006 17:25:30
Some of the sig pics on A4F are pretty funny. They seem to have really come to terms with their feelings over this. D
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 17:27:11
[ba020d5f34c]CAN SOME MOD MERGE THESE TWO DAMN THREAD TOGETHER, IT'S GETTING ANNOYING[/sizea020d5f34c][/ba020d5f34c]
Tholek
01-03-2006 17:29:01
Ouch...
Alex89
01-03-2006 17:29:16
[quote14567e4d51="MSX"]I think if you click Account at the top of the pages, then on support tickets, you'll be able to create one there. I can't really remember off of the top of my head, and I don't feel like opening one of the sites to check.[/quote14567e4d51]
nope cry theres only customer inquiry, account info and order history n the account section evil stupid freepay, I hope they go bankrupt cuz of this, that would make my day
I think it's the customer inquiry link...try that ;).
Aprout
01-03-2006 17:34:08
All of the offers say instant credit on my 360 site. Does it say this on anyone elses account?
darkscout
01-03-2006 17:36:47
How about spending that hard earned cash you're going to get in 90 days on some people that know how to code?
[code1aaa2c06577]Server Error in Application.
Page:
/ReferralStatus.aspx
Source:
Microsoft.VisualBasic
Message:
Cast from string "" to type 'Date' is not valid.
Stack Trace:
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.DateType.FromString(String Value, CultureInfo culture)
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.DateType.FromString(String Value)
at Gratis.Templates.Platform.ReferralStatus.DoShowStatus(Context& oContext, TemplateInfo oTemplateInfo, Boolean bXML)
at Gratis.Templates.Platform.ReferralStatus.ShowStatus(Context& oContext, String Sent, Int32 iSiteID)
at GratisPlatform.ReferralStatus.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)[/code1aaa2c06577]
Alex89
01-03-2006 17:43:19
[quote8a0a629561="MSX"]I think it's the customer inquiry link...try that ;).[/quote8a0a629561]
I tried that before but its just the stupid message saying all the bullshit this thread is about...so theres like no way for me to contact freepay right?
cyberpunk243
01-03-2006 17:44:21
[quote61ba2081d3="darkscout"]How about spending that hard earned cash you're going to get in 90 days on some people that know how to code?
[code161ba2081d3]Server Error in Application.
Page:
/ReferralStatus.aspx
Source:
Microsoft.VisualBasic
Message:
Cast from string "" to type 'Date' is not valid.
Stack Trace:
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.DateType.FromString(String Value, CultureInfo culture)
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.DateType.FromString(String Value)
at Gratis.Templates.Platform.ReferralStatus.DoShowStatus(Context& oContext, TemplateInfo oTemplateInfo, Boolean bXML)
at Gratis.Templates.Platform.ReferralStatus.ShowStatus(Context& oContext, String Sent, Int32 iSiteID)
at GratisPlatform.ReferralStatus.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)[/code161ba2081d3][/quote61ba2081d3]
Huh?
johnjimjones
01-03-2006 17:52:23
[quote2c88ca1795="theysayjump"][quote2c88ca1795="ajrock2000"]I wonder if A4F will kiss ass to Freepay about this too.[/quote2c88ca1795]
They've been moved to Grade C on A4F.[/quote2c88ca1795]
I found that a bit extreme and unA4F like. Interesting move.
dacapo
01-03-2006 17:52:29
What a bull$hit freepay is doing???
1) I can not access freepay sites for about several days now... I always get DNS errors...
2) 90 days shit and so on...
OK you wanted it!
Bye Bye Freepay! There are enough other companies giving away free stuff and their pages are AVAILABLE and they do not do such a crap!
THE END OF FREEPAY! And I recommend to everyone Do not refer Freepay anylonger if you do not want to get blamed!
I am really glad that I did never refer Freepay to people that I knew!
doylnea
01-03-2006 17:57:25
[quote49d4c6431c="johnjimjones"][quote49d4c6431c="theysayjump"][quote49d4c6431c="ajrock2000"]I wonder if A4F will kiss ass to Freepay about this too.[/quote49d4c6431c]
They've been moved to Grade C on A4F.[/quote49d4c6431c]
I found that a bit extreme and unA4F like. Interesting move.[/quote49d4c6431c]
Never fear though, the Free4Me Network is still grade A roll
theysayjump
01-03-2006 17:59:10
[quote23b94636f9="mpbollywoodking"][b23b94636f9]CAN SOME MOD MERGE THESE TWO DAMN THREAD TOGETHER, IT'S GETTING ANNOYING[/size23b94636f9][/b23b94636f9][/quote23b94636f9]
Easy on the caps, bolding and the large font there Johnny Cool.
Since you're the guy in charge here and what you say goes, consider it done.
anyone got a pic of godzilla smashing through the headquarters lol
nrellihan
01-03-2006 18:03:59
BUT I HEARD PEOPLE WHO USE BIG FONT AND CAPS HAVE BIG MEMBERS[/size34473cb813]
nytrate
01-03-2006 18:04:30
Some of you guys are crazy!
I gotta admit, I'm not thrilled...but I see their reasoning. They do need to have some kind of time limit on it, so they can clear their books and accounts...but 3 months is way too short
I think they are ruling out the most legit ways to get referrals (for their advertisers sake) which is webpage, sig, blog advertising. That kind of referring takes many months to get the needed amount of greens...but in the long run isn't that the point? By rushing us, everyones gonna end up trading and paying for their referrals which we know will not result in much revenue for the sponsors.
I think a month per referral needed is at least a little better. 3 months for the shuffle, 5 months for ipod...10 for cameras...etc.
I'm just a bit upset because I was a week into approval. They should at least let the people in the approval stage and beyond stay with the old way. Now I can't even request approval and I have 1 more green than I need to!
johnjimjones
01-03-2006 18:07:00
[quotec025cc5c14="doylnea"][quotec025cc5c14="johnjimjones"][quotec025cc5c14="theysayjump"][quotec025cc5c14="ajrock2000"]I wonder if A4F will kiss ass to Freepay about this too.[/quotec025cc5c14]
They've been moved to Grade C on A4F.[/quotec025cc5c14]
I found that a bit extreme and unA4F like. Interesting move.[/quotec025cc5c14]
Never fear though, the Free4Me Network is still grade A roll[/quotec025cc5c14]Touche my good friend.
ffactoryxx
01-03-2006 18:15:17
No new freepay sites for me
gafdpc
01-03-2006 18:21:05
No more freepay for me...
And I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure they're happy all of us (including myself) are exclaiming that we're done with FreePay we have the highest completion percentage, and cut into their profits. This is the point of the changes.
ffactoryxx
01-03-2006 18:23:01
For us who have been in processing on the xbox 360 since November. This doesnt affect us does it.
darkscout
01-03-2006 18:24:40
dacapo
01-03-2006 18:25:29
[quote7fe8ce4398="gafdpc"]No more freepay for me...
And I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure they're happy all of us (including myself) are exclaiming that we're done with FreePay we have the highest completion percentage, and cut into their profits. This is the point of the changes.[/quote7fe8ce4398]
Yeah you are right! Freepay is one more user-faking flicking bad business company...
amir89630
01-03-2006 18:29:17
ITS my fault.
After two years of completing an offer for my cousin. I finally got reinterested and started going at it again. Freepay was sad because they saw that I came back, and didn't jsut let them keep my offer jsut the way it was. But now they have implemented this policy from keeping users like me from ever coming back from the dead.
GH0STce11
01-03-2006 18:29:23
wow, freepay has lost all support from these communities, but like gafdpc said, this will help them. Because we know what we're doing, and we can actually get the prizes advertised, and that takes money from them, money that the greedy people at freepay would rather have for themselves. But who can blame them? It's the American way!
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 18:30:26
[quote6134f53d4e="Tholek"]TRAINN=No laptop=Tholek= ([/quote6134f53d4e]
awww poor guy, I remember how upset you were that you couldnt do desktops again for the laptops ( they finally released a laptop site then they jacked us (
GH0STce11
01-03-2006 18:31:47
[quote263f4209b5="RocLaFamilia"]Freepay sites used to be like a 9 or 10 outa 10 for me...not there down to a 2 or 3 cuz of this shit....[/quote263f4209b5]
yeah freepay HAD the top spot on A4F with a grade A rating, now they're gonna be dropped down to a C!
nobodies takin money from them. Think about it, all the cash they are sittin on, makin interest and such. Not to mention other ways of diversifying their income(investments, etc.) And if they arent doin those things....well.....what a business model! roll
darkscout
01-03-2006 18:35:52
[quote27479a7827="GH0STce11"]Because we know what we're doing, and we can actually get the prizes advertised[/quote27479a7827]
And you don't think this will propogate the internet? People are going to be like "oh stay away from that site." It's going to get around. Look at the StormPay/12DailyPro fiasco. That's everywhere.
My Timeline
May 30, 2006. Doomsday for probably thousands of accounts. People in a foreign country for the summer, forgot, or they just can't get their refs.
August 30ish. Doomsday for the referrals of the people that died in the previous rush.
Anything with more than 5 refs will go from 100-1000 gifts to <50 for the August crowd. Their referrals, which will be very few and far inbetween, probably won't make an attempt at completing the site.
2007 Death of freepay. No one is signing up because by word of mouth, it comes out that it's a 'scam'
ffactoryxx
01-03-2006 18:39:58
Are we gonna get our goddam XBOX 360's or are we going to get screwed. I could see use never getting them
dacapo
01-03-2006 18:40:36
such business models won´t exist long...
of course they will get some more money now but soon there will be an end... and then we know that there is still justice in favour of all FAKED users!
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 18:41:09
It's not too late for them to take away this policy. There is still plenty of profit to be made still. My completion dates are null now on my sites.
shortys408
01-03-2006 18:58:07
Im sure many people (including myself) went and got refs today to finish up what they had left with freepay.
Alex89
01-03-2006 19:01:27
not me, its so hard to get refs ( so l ran out tonight to put my link on lightposts...im desperate
dacapo
01-03-2006 19:01:56
[quotebedd1c2eb6="Drummer16161616"]It's not too late for them to take away this policy. There is still plenty of profit to be made still. My completion dates are null now on my sites.[/quotebedd1c2eb6]
I am sure that they exactly knew how users would react about that policy, don´t you? It is seriously planned and surely no mistake... what a pitty!
Alex89
01-03-2006 19:29:26
i fucken hate them now so much sicne l cant even contact em also, pisses me off
gratisscam
01-03-2006 19:43:27
In the end with FreePay, it's all about the money.
This new policy is going to get them many more offers done while having to send out less rewards. The deadline means those who take too long will never get prizes, and FreePay gets their commissions for the offers. The paperwork is just like mail-in rebates. They are counting on some people not filling it out and mailing it on time, forgetting about it, not exactly following the rules, etc... anything so they don't have to send the reward.
[if222b2b4ef]removed babble - fugger[/if222b2b4ef]
It's a shame it has come to this, but FreePay just wasn't happy making A LOT of money, but they want to make A WHOTE LOT MORE even if it means crapping on their loyal customers.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for my XBox 360. Maybe I should give you idiots a deadline for sending that as long as it's OK for you to do it to us.
[if222b2b4ef]removed babble - fugger[/if222b2b4ef]
gafdpc
01-03-2006 19:46:53
I can only wonder who made a new account just to say this...
MyungChunHa
01-03-2006 19:54:24
Gratisscam, thats the dumbest idea I've ever heard...quit spamming these forums with horrible, never-going-to-work scams....just quit it, its retarded roll ....
Tholek
01-03-2006 20:20:15
[quoteced832ab54="Drummer16161616"][quoteced832ab54="Tholek"]TRAINN=No laptop=Tholek= ([/quoteced832ab54]
awww poor guy, I remember how upset you were that you couldnt do desktops again for the laptops ( they finally released a laptop site then they jacked us ([/quoteced832ab54]
I'm not sure if that was meant to be sarcastic, or not. ;)
Yeah, I lobbied hard for laptops.freepay. At times I thought i was the only one who really wanted it.
Now I know how that german kid feels.
midnightgt
01-03-2006 20:26:25
Freepay just went to shit in my book. I need 2 more offers...One will be done by a freind, the other ill get in the next couple days...
Really want to tell freepay to fuck themselves? Finish your site and dont start anymore. THey will lose money. This is ridiculous, conside me a TRAINN fan now.
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 20:26:26
[quote4e52f50578="Tholek"][quote4e52f50578="Drummer16161616"][quote4e52f50578="Tholek"]TRAINN=No laptop=Tholek= ([/quote4e52f50578]
awww poor guy, I remember how upset you were that you couldnt do desktops again for the laptops ( they finally released a laptop site then they jacked us ([/quote4e52f50578]
I'm not sure if that was meant to be sarcastic, or not. ;)
Yeah, I lobbied hard for laptops.freepay. At times I thought i was the only one who really wanted it.
Now I know how that german kid feels.[/quote4e52f50578]
Nah, it was geniuine... I remember you tried so hard.
Tholek
01-03-2006 20:40:56
+KMA for sympathy. ;) (gotta wait)
ajrock2000
01-03-2006 20:41:03
[quote4ee39655ca="doylnea"][quote4ee39655ca="johnjimjones"][quote4ee39655ca="theysayjump"][quote4ee39655ca="ajrock2000"]I wonder if A4F will kiss ass to Freepay about this too.[/quote4ee39655ca]
They've been moved to Grade C on A4F.[/quote4ee39655ca]
I found that a bit extreme and unA4F like. Interesting move.[/quote4ee39655ca]
Never fear though, the Free4Me Network is still grade A roll[/quote4ee39655ca]
I think free4me rocks. Admin is the nicest guy ever. I did a ausvegas for $100 during his january promotion.
St00pid
01-03-2006 20:44:38
Wow, this freaking blows.
okdude
01-03-2006 20:45:43
[quote1b926c84ce="okdude"]http//www.petitionspot.com[/size1b926c84ce][/color1b926c84ce]
somebody gotta do it![/size1b926c84ce][/quote1b926c84ce]
kasios
01-03-2006 20:46:46
I sent my form in with overnight shipping, I hope to get it in before theres a rush of papers at freepays doors. lol
Shaggy135
01-03-2006 20:47:18
Tholek
01-03-2006 20:57:12
Jesus Christ...
My first site and wow.... fuck you. FUCK YOU. What a bitch. If I don't get my psp...
tylerc
01-03-2006 21:02:49
[quote98372d5e8c="huhu"]My first site and wow.... fuck you. FUCK YOU. What a bitch. If I don't get my psp...[/quote98372d5e8c]
Settle down noob.
St00pid
01-03-2006 21:21:24
To add more than just some angry insults....
This alone will destroy FreePay's (somewhat) clean and well-respected reputation. FP is the internet's leading freebie network, and should remain that way. Adding the fact that you need 3 months and a full page approval form to actually receive your item, one word wow.
I won't be suprised if FreePay starts losing customers...
Jake, you seriously need to talk to your superiors. It's hard enough to wait for a referral to get credit. (1 day-1 month >_>)
One of my friends completed an offer, got the package in the mail, along with a confirmation letter, and never received credit.
And hell, I'm wondering how long it will take to receive proper "credit" for the APPROVAL FORM.
Just my 2 cents. This will probably be my first AND last FreePay site I ever complete.
midnightgt
01-03-2006 21:22:17
Take a look at my new sig.
I will finish Ipods.freepay.com, cause I should, but after that im done...
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 21:41:44
I think everyones just blowin this outta proportion. As long as they still send out gifts, I do not care. However, I do feel sorry for laptop people...
PropHet
01-03-2006 21:45:35
[quotee28af53b06="midnightgt"]Take a look at my new sig.[/quotee28af53b06]
Your signature is in poor taste.
Anyway, Jake, have you guys considered making the length of time relative to how many refs it takes to get the job done?
Lets say an average of two refs per month.
6 refs = 90 days (3 months)
8 refs = 120 days (4 months)
20 refs = 300 days (10 months)
The setup now seems so arbitrary. Kind of like someone just threw a dart at a dartboard.
I can't imagine trying to get a laptop with 20 refs in 3 months. You might as well just shut down that offer.
St00pid
01-03-2006 21:47:11
[quote73a70dba5e="Drummer16161616"]I think everyones just blowin this outta proportion. As long as they still send out gifts, I do not care. However, I do feel sorry for laptop people...[/quote73a70dba5e]
Yeah, for you, no fucking kidding. You already received 6 gifts and are in the process of obtaining a XBox 360.
[quote73a70dba5e="PropHet"]
They setup now seems so arbitrary. Kind of like someone just threw a dart at a dartboard.
I can't imagine trying to get a laptop with 20 refs in 3 months. You might as well just shut down that offer.[/quote73a70dba5e]
Couldn't have said it better.
cyberpunk243
01-03-2006 21:50:16
Make it longer. 6 refs in 3 months is still to short of time I think.
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 21:51:40
[quote00404e8035="St00pid"][quote00404e8035="Drummer16161616"]I think everyones just blowin this outta proportion. As long as they still send out gifts, I do not care. However, I do feel sorry for laptop people...[/quote00404e8035]
Yeah, for you, no fucking kidding. You already received 6 gifts and are in the process of obtaining a XBox 360.
[quote00404e8035="PropHet"]
They setup now seems so arbitrary. Kind of like someone just threw a dart at a dartboard.
I can't imagine trying to get a laptop with 20 refs in 3 months. You might as well just shut down that offer.[/quote00404e8035]
Couldn't have said it better.[/quote00404e8035]
Um I have 7/8 on ps3s, 4/5 on giftcards, and processing in xbox 360, i'd say thats a good 1200$ that i have in freepay...
Supacold
01-03-2006 21:54:23
[quote3b4624aaba="midnightgt"]Take a look at my new sig.
I will finish Ipods.freepay.com, cause I should, but after that im done...[/quote3b4624aaba]
[quote3b4624aaba]Gratis Internet, Inc ("Gratis Internet") reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to change its Terms & Conditions at any time, for any reason, without notice. We also reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to change the methods through which free items are earned. This may include, but is not limited to, increasing the number of friends you have to refer or adding more steps to confirm that you have a legitimate account. [b3b4624aaba]We may also add or remove any product listed as an incentive at any time. If we replace a product, the new product may not be of equal value.[/b3b4624aaba][/quote3b4624aaba]
Want a paper bag full of dog shit instead of a ipod?
Am i also frustrated that this was done, but seriously... is all these insults necessary. For god's sake grow up.
if i were them and see you insulting me that way i would give u a bag of shit. Now sit the hell down and be happy your getting what u want
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 21:58:11
I won't bash them unless they stop sending out gifts... Everything cept laptops is still doable.
Gigante
01-03-2006 22:17:45
When I posted about Freepay being in deep shit here http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=33909 3 days ago, everybody told me to stfu.
SoBeIcedT
01-03-2006 22:33:43
I haven't been around FIPG in a while, im back from the days before Jake was around and FreePay was still called Gratis. I have been STV for my DesktopPC for over a month, since 1/20 to be exact, once I get this, im not going to use freepay again. End of Story.
Up to this point I've got a 20GB ipod a Photo ipod and am awaiting the DesktopPC, Never will I go back to FreePay with this 90 day rule. I do advise all of you who have started FreePay sites to finish the ones you have started and not start any others, that is, unless you can def. finish in 90 days.
fgr_admin
01-03-2006 22:46:41
What amazes me is people didn't see something like this coming
Everyone knows (its been posted here a million times) Freepay only makes money when someone doesnt ever finish.
Well unless that person emails freepay and says "Hey I'm not gonna finish" they realisticly have to hold a huge prtion of the money they made off him. This is in case he ever returns. If they spent his money to pay someone else who finished it would make them a ponzi scheme.
So this way in 89 days freepay will know exactly to the penny how much they made. Then everyday after that as well. They plan on using forfeited accounts as profit.
vinsanitee
01-03-2006 23:09:15
I just hope that they can get more offers for us Canadians to conincide with the change....I decided to start freePSP and there is a grand total of TWO offers, one of which I've done before and the other I have no interest in...How can I refer people to do the sites when there are TWO offers?!
EatChex89
01-03-2006 23:12:41
[quoted940958a0f="SoBeIcedT"]I haven't been around FIPG in a while, im back from the days before Jake was around and FreePay was still called Gratis. I have been STV for my DesktopPC for over a month, since 1/20 to be exact, once I get this, im not going to use freepay again. End of Story.
Up to this point I've got a 20GB iPod a Photo iPod and am awaiting the DesktopPC, Never will I go back to FreePay with this 90 day rule. I do advise all of you who have started FreePay sites to finish the ones you have started and not start any others, that is, unless you can def. finish in 90 days.[/quoted940958a0f]
woah. it's like you rose from the dead.
akalic
01-03-2006 23:25:56
[quote11b4749328="fgr_admin"]What amazes me is people didn't see something like this coming
Everyone knows (its been posted here a million times) Freepay only makes money when someone doesnt ever finish.
Well unless that person emails freepay and says "Hey I'm not gonna finish" they realisticly have to hold a huge prtion of the money they made off him. This is in case he ever returns. If they spent his money to pay someone else who finished it would make them a ponzi scheme.
So this way in 89 days freepay will know exactly to the penny how much they made. Then everyday after that as well. They plan on using forfeited accounts as profit.[/quote11b4749328]
agreed. i was talking to my friend whos in his mid 20s, owning his own company, and he said they will fall eventually. They are just not profiting at this point thus drastic measures must be taken..i guess that means alot of customers will be gone as well. It all depends on the noobs to get freepay what they want..
tylerc
02-03-2006 04:04:21
I'm glad I've already finished every FreePay site I wanted to finish. I would consider doing their 360 site, just to get one and sell it, but not anymore.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 04:33:55
i got every iPOD except for the shuffle. And the 360 i'm getting, now i only need to do PS3 (, in 3 months.......8 referrals.......... (
JerriBlank
02-03-2006 05:30:55
[quote29611ea2d7="Jake"][quote29611ea2d7="Iloveipods2"]
90 DAYS, ARE YOU KIDDDING? if that would have been the case, i've been waiting [b29611ea2d7][u29611ea2d7]44 DAYS AND COUNTING FOR CREDIT[/b29611ea2d7][/u29611ea2d7][/quote29611ea2d7]
Then ask about it again and again and again until it gets done.[/quote29611ea2d7]
Why should we EVER have to ask about a green "again and again"? That's not acceptable customer service at any company I've ever dealt with.
If Freepay is going to put a deadline on completing sites, then it had damn well better improve its customer service. Otherwise, I can foresee - and I'm sure you can too - accusations that customer service is stalling on greens to slow down completion of a site. I'm not saying that will happen, but you'll get accused of it.
Everyone knows that Freepay only makes money when people complete offers but don't earn prizes. This new deadline policy just creates more opportunities for the appearance of shady business.
I suspect Freepay is going to spend more time responding to Federal Trade Commission complaints in the future.
jb
amanj
02-03-2006 05:43:22
[quote34a5a2a2e1="Wolfeman"]I just hope this policy means better crediting and fast approval times...[/quote34a5a2a2e1]
i think as far as beeter crediting is concerned YES, coz atleast here for UK sites they have changed all offers to INSTANT which earlier used to take atleast 1 week.
egyptianruin
02-03-2006 05:49:41
I thought the instant offer thing was another glitch...
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 05:51:20
COME 5/30/2006
EXCEPT ALOT OF COMPLAINTS AND ALOT OF ANGRY PEOPLE
hudgie
02-03-2006 06:21:13
Jake, can you get any more info re rejected referrals? I mean, with the timeframe that we now have, it is impossible to know that you need a new ref until there are <30 days left (30 days till you can send in, 4 weeks until you get approved/rejected). Is there a special extension if you have a ref go grey?
why dont they just disable account that are idle for more then 9 months. I am not really too happy with this. My friend just completed pcs.freepay got one green taken away then got a other taken and both our his friends that still have there credit card and blockbuster, he is really pissed now b/c he been waiting for ever to get this, i hear him talk about it like ten times a day.
Alien Zulu
02-03-2006 06:46:11
once i saw this i was gonna call for a good old fashioned boycott but it looks like everyone is already on board for that
if you didn't lose people with the 360 fiasco then you sure lost them now
this policy is complete bullshit
i see VERY few people that are going to be able to finish a site in 90 days
it was put in place with the sole purpose of fucking people over and sending out fewer freebies
so it seems [b30f4ee3af7]Jake lied to us[/b30f4ee3af7] as well
this whole pending approval "glitch" was actually freepay just lubing up to fuck us in the ass
so if my account is still back at pending approval do i have to do all this snail mail bullshit or what? cause i had been approved for a while and was expecting to get my 360 this month FINALLY. if i have to fill out paperwork and wait another 4 weeks i think i'm going to fucking snap
[quote5dcc6842ad="Alien Zulu"]
so it seems [b5dcc6842ad]Jake lied to us[/b5dcc6842ad] as well
this whole pending approval "glitch" was actually freepay just lubing up to fuck us in the ass
[/quote5dcc6842ad]
Nice try. However, this is completely untrue. Don't make accusations against me that are completely groundless.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 06:55:02
ya, dont' shoot the messenger
jake, will those of us affected by the glitch have to submit the form? I cannot print it b/c it isnt on the site, so I assume not. thanks for taking all of the crap people are dishing out to you while still helping us!
tramahound
02-03-2006 07:13:45
So, I'm patiently waiting an answer from Freepay on what in the world I'm supposed to do about my user ID being 8 digits and not 7 before sending off my snail mail approval form. Just counting down the days here. hell, I have 89 left, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? Nothing but time here...
jrizzle77
02-03-2006 07:25:53
In regards to the referals referals, sorry if this wasn't mentioned but just read through it all and couldn't find it , 1) do our referals have to get referals also for us to be approved and 2) if our referals referals go bad, are we on hold, or just lose a green, not sure why we would hurt in the ifrst place from someone who we have no contact with...
mindseye1
02-03-2006 07:29:45
Has anyone heard yet what this "new way of getting referrals" is supposed to be to counter balance this bombshell that was dropped?
I'm still curious about what happens to an account that's past it's 90 days. Are they done for good, never to be able to try for that gift again?
And is it true that all offers are now instant? Or do they just say instant on the tags like they always have?
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 07:30:32
[quote927f9e55cc="tramahound"]So, I'm patiently waiting an answer from Freepay on what in the world I'm supposed to do about my user ID being 8 digits and not 7 before sending off my snail mail approval form. Just counting down the days here. hell, I have 89 left, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? Nothing but time here...[/quote927f9e55cc]
what are u talking about user id??? What user id?
[quote67081e0c7e="tramahound"]So, I'm patiently waiting an answer from Freepay on what in the world I'm supposed to do about my user ID being 8 digits and not 7 before sending off my snail mail approval form. Just counting down the days here. hell, I have 89 left, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? Nothing but time here...[/quote67081e0c7e]
Download the new one. It has room for 9 digits.
johnjimjones
02-03-2006 07:45:33
The way I see it is that Freepay needed a way to get rid of all of the users that were frequently finishing their sites (aka US). I'm sure revenue will take a hit, but they drastically decrease the number of people that are completing their site. It's a double bonus for them because they take out the ones that are finishing the site and now their income comes from the noobs that don't finish it. You can see this just as the same thing as OC's OOD. They're still alive and people still do their sites (just not as many).
coolbreeze06
02-03-2006 07:47:43
[quote71afa2a851="Jake"][quote71afa2a851="tramahound"]So, I'm patiently waiting an answer from Freepay on what in the world I'm supposed to do about my user ID being 8 digits and not 7 before sending off my snail mail approval form. Just counting down the days here. hell, I have 89 left, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? Nothing but time here...[/quote71afa2a851]
Download the new one. It has room for 9 digits.[/quote71afa2a851]
Where do you download it from! I am "pending approval" on my PS3 site and do not see a link to download it.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 07:53:31
[quote9dd76b908a="coolbreeze06"][quote9dd76b908a="Jake"][quote9dd76b908a="tramahound"]So, I'm patiently waiting an answer from Freepay on what in the world I'm supposed to do about my user ID being 8 digits and not 7 before sending off my snail mail approval form. Just counting down the days here. hell, I have 89 left, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? Nothing but time here...[/quote9dd76b908a]
Download the new one. It has room for 9 digits.[/quote9dd76b908a]
Where do you download it from! I am "pending approval" on my PS3 site and do not see a link to download it.[/quote9dd76b908a].
THE FORM IS TO RECIEVE APPROVAL. IN YOUR CASE YOU ALREADY HAVE APPROVAL, THAT IS WHY THE FORM IS CALLED "APPROVAL FORM"[/size9dd76b908a][/color9dd76b908a]
well it was a good run. I knew it would end sometime. See ya guys later. Good luck.
princessfrozen
02-03-2006 08:03:24
Well I had a nice surprise in my email when I woke up this morning. Imagine the look on my face when I read this email telling me I now had 90 days to complete all the sites I've signed up for. If possible, Jake, as you're only the messenger, I ask that you take this message back to Freepay. Please tell them as a very vocal backer of Gratis/Freepay I feel as though I've been slapped in the face. As one who has followed the rules for doing these sites, this is an insult. I did exactly what was suggested by posting my links on my sites and asking my family and friends to sign up. With this 90 day rule, that method is not feasible. There are people (including myself) who don't spend every moment of spare time trying to complete a site. This isn't "sitting" on an account/site, this is called having a life. In essence you are encouraging people to BREAK the rules to hurry and complete a site in 90 days. To be frank, only traders and rule breakers will be able to finish anything that requires more than 5 referrals in 90 days. So thanks for the consideration of the average person who follows the rules guys.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 08:09:08
[quote62bde7b71e="princessfrozen"]Well I had a nice surprise in my email when I woke up this morning. Imagine the look on my face when I read this email telling me I now had 90 days to complete all the sites I've signed up for. If possible, Jake, as you're only the messenger, I ask that you take this message back to Freepay. Please tell them as a very vocal backer of Gratis/Freepay I feel as though I've been slapped in the face. As one who has followed the rules for doing these sites, this is an insult. I did exactly what was suggested by posting my links on my sites and asking my family and friends to sign up. With this 90 day rule, that method is not feasible. There are people (including myself) who don't spend every moment of spare time trying to complete a site. This isn't "sitting" on an account/site, this is called having a life. In essence you are encouraging people to BREAK the rules to hurry and complete a site in 90 days. To be frank, only traders and rule breakers will be able to finish anything that requires more than 5 referrals in 90 days. So thanks for the consideration of the average person who follows the rules guys.[/quote62bde7b71e]
I totally agree. I have a LIFE. A FULL TIME JOB. This new policy is like another FULL TIME JOB for me to get referrals.
coolbreeze06
02-03-2006 08:09:25
[quotef18a34f1af="mpbollywoodking"][quotef18a34f1af="coolbreeze06"][quotef18a34f1af="Jake"][quotef18a34f1af="tramahound"]So, I'm patiently waiting an answer from Freepay on what in the world I'm supposed to do about my user ID being 8 digits and not 7 before sending off my snail mail approval form. Just counting down the days here. hell, I have 89 left, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? Nothing but time here...[/quotef18a34f1af]
Download the new one. It has room for 9 digits.[/quotef18a34f1af]
Where do you download it from! I am "pending approval" on my PS3 site and do not see a link to download it.[/quotef18a34f1af].
THE FORM IS TO RECIEVE APPROVAL. IN YOUR CASE YOU ALREADY HAVE APPROVAL, THAT IS WHY THE FORM IS CALLED "APPROVAL FORM"[/sizef18a34f1af][/colorf18a34f1af][/quotef18a34f1af]
oh.....ok...just making sure! I would hate to have a little surprise come 5/30
Ok one last post to make 200.
can we get a Grandfather Clause? that would make us all feel better. All new sites signed up from now on are 90 days. Fweeew! that's better ...thanks.
Peace!!!
I too am out like a fat kid in dodge ball. still LMAO whoever said that.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 08:12:34
no problemo
karma + if possible ([/size4e8692c91d]
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 08:29:18
Jake, any way you can talk to the geniuses who thought this was a good business decision, and get the number for their dealer?
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 08:32:22
not only did Freepay kind of skrewed us, but we ourselves just skrewed our referrals who we got to convince that this was a good site to sign up and who aren't a part of this forum, so they have no idea
midnightgt
02-03-2006 08:47:53
[quote7c2baf5dab="mpbollywoodking"]not only did Freepay kind of skrewed us, but we ourselves just skrewed our referrals who we got to convince that this was a good site to sign up and who aren't a part of this forum, so they have no idea[/quote7c2baf5dab]
This is actually very true, now we look like pushers of a scam.
cyberpunk243
02-03-2006 08:50:58
[quotee029900841="princessfrozen"]Well I had a nice surprise in my email when I woke up this morning. Imagine the look on my face when I read this email telling me I now had 90 days to complete all the sites I've signed up for. If possible, Jake, as you're only the messenger, I ask that you take this message back to Freepay. Please tell them as a very vocal backer of Gratis/Freepay I feel as though I've been slapped in the face. As one who has followed the rules for doing these sites, this is an insult. I did exactly what was suggested by posting my links on my sites and asking my family and friends to sign up. With this 90 day rule, that method is not feasible. There are people (including myself) who don't spend every moment of spare time trying to complete a site. This isn't "sitting" on an account/site, this is called having a life. In essence you are encouraging people to BREAK the rules to hurry and complete a site in 90 days. To be frank, only traders and rule breakers will be able to finish anything that requires more than 5 referrals in 90 days. So thanks for the consideration of the average person who follows the rules guys.[/quotee029900841]
Tell them yourself...
http//www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=www.gratisinternet.com[]http//www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=www.gratisinternet.com
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 08:53:46
is this allowed? This new policy shouldn't apply to EXISTING USERS, because when those users signed up, they were signing according to the TOS at that time
midnightgt
02-03-2006 08:55:35
Lol leave it to someone with a name like cyber punk open this up to us... This should be fun.
cyberpunk243
02-03-2006 08:57:24
[quoteac6c97b85d="midnightgt"]Lol leave it to someone with a name like cyber punk open this up to us... This should be fun.[/quoteac6c97b85d]
Open this up? It is right there on any public domain checker. She asked Jake to pass the information along and I know that isn't going to happen so I gave her an option. So shut it noob.
P.S. That isn't how you spell "THEIR."
datbeast
02-03-2006 09:02:48
[quoteb15317fbd9="mpbollywoodking"]is this allowed? This new policy shouldn't apply to EXISTING USERS, because when those users signed up, they were signing according to the TOS at that time[/quoteb15317fbd9]
I agree 110%,but Im pretty sure in the old TOS there was a thing that says Gartis has the right to change the TOS. It would be great Customer Service, but I doubt it'll happen.
ltsmash2
02-03-2006 09:07:27
[quote44af5ced80="midnightgt"]Lol leave it to someone with a name like cyber punk open this up to us... This should be fun.[/quote44af5ced80]
Nice sig....did you learn how to spell in skool?
kposse77
02-03-2006 09:16:03
[quoteefea25c108="ltsmash2"][quoteefea25c108="midnightgt"]Lol leave it to someone with a name like cyber punk open this up to us... This should be fun.[/quoteefea25c108]
Nice sig....did you learn how to spell in skool?[/quoteefea25c108]
Not trying to pile-on, but if you're fixing it anyway, "Time" shouldn't be capitalized.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 09:20:17
oh come on people
get back on topic on Freepay bashing P
chillywilly
02-03-2006 09:26:51
[quote30c69a5ba5="johnjimjones"]The way I see it is that Freepay needed a way to get rid of all of the users that were frequently finishing their sites (aka US). I'm sure revenue will take a hit, but they drastically decrease the number of people that are completing their site. It's a double bonus for them because they take out the ones that are finishing the site and now their income comes from the noobs that don't finish it. You can see this just as the same thing as OC's OOD. They're still alive and people still do their sites (just not as many).[/quote30c69a5ba5]
I think this hits it spot on. The eventual goal of this was to either discourage people from doing the site or hoping that people would forget.
The downside to this for Freepay is going to be less people signing up and for those that were close to the 90 days, but didn't finish because of various issues, this will massively increase the amount of customer service requests they get.
As soon as I complete the iPod nano site (waiting for my 5th ref to sign up and do an offer), I'm done with Freepay. I don't have the time to hurry and rush job the next site I wanted to do (laptops). I'll go to a DIY site for a laptop.
amanj
02-03-2006 09:44:34
Hi JAKE,
could u plz throw light on wheter the INSTANT CREDIT as mentioned on UK websites is a typo error or is it really intended and we will b able to get instant credit?
tramahound
02-03-2006 09:47:10
[quoteb7ac88ffb3="Jake"][quoteb7ac88ffb3="tramahound"]So, I'm patiently waiting an answer from Freepay on what in the world I'm supposed to do about my user ID being 8 digits and not 7 before sending off my snail mail approval form. Just counting down the days here. hell, I have 89 left, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? Nothing but time here...[/quoteb7ac88ffb3]
Download the new one. It has room for 9 digits.[/quoteb7ac88ffb3]
That's all I needed to hear. You da man Jake! woot
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 09:49:06
it's on all the sites, not just UK
Alien Zulu
02-03-2006 09:53:12
[quote08177ff10f="Jake"][quote08177ff10f="Alien Zulu"]
so it seems [b08177ff10f]Jake lied to us[/b08177ff10f] as well
this whole pending approval "glitch" was actually freepay just lubing up to fuck us in the ass
[/quote08177ff10f]
Nice try. However, this is completely untrue. Don't make accusations against me that are completely groundless.[/quote08177ff10f]
then why don't you answer the question i asked?
[quote08177ff10f="Alien Zulu"]
so if my account is still back at pending approval do i have to do all this snail mail bullshit or what? cause i had been approved for a while and was expecting to get my 360 this month FINALLY. if i have to fill out paperwork and wait another 4 weeks i think i'm going to fucking snap[/quote08177ff10f]
midnightgt
02-03-2006 09:55:26
[quote0fc620baff="cyberpunk243"][quote0fc620baff="midnightgt"]Lol leave it to someone with a name like cyber punk open this up to us... This should be fun.[/quote0fc620baff]
Open this up? It is right there on any public domain checker. She asked Jake to pass the information along and I know that isn't going to happen so I gave her an option. So shut it noob.[/quote0fc620baff]
Calm down buddy...
First off, my post was not offensive in anyway. I just thought that this information will be abused by some on these boards if they become angered by the new rules. The part about your name being cyber punk was a joke.
As for me being a "noob" dont you think you acted a little rash for someone with so much experience? Shouldnt you have been acting ultra l33t for the extra time you have spent here? Im sorry sir, I bow to you. I wish I could be on your level of coolness.
To the others thanks for the suggestions, they are corrected.
[quote5c29048a66="Alien Zulu"]
then why don't you answer the question i asked?
[quote5c29048a66="Alien Zulu"]
so if my account is still back at pending approval do i have to do all this snail mail bullshit or what? cause i had been approved for a while and was expecting to get my 360 this month FINALLY. if i have to fill out paperwork and wait another 4 weeks i think i'm going to fucking snap[/quote5c29048a66][/quote5c29048a66]
Because thats what PMs are for. Direct questions to me!
The answer is that I am waiting for an answer on this issue from my superiors.
The question has been [i5c29048a66]also[/i5c29048a66] answered previously.
The other thing to keep in mind that your accusation of me lying has [i5c29048a66]nothing[/i5c29048a66] to do with your question.
midnightgt
02-03-2006 09:58:15
Are all the offers editing instantly??? Or is this a glitch?
This is directed to Jake.
Alien Zulu
02-03-2006 10:01:38
[quote5a5af7f112="Jake"]
The other thing to keep in mind that your accusation of me lying has [i5a5af7f112]nothing[/i5a5af7f112] to do with your question.[/quote5a5af7f112]
you told us it was a glitch
it wasn't a glitch it was part of this new system and you knew it
[quoteb19c775855="Alien Zulu"]
you told us it was a glitch
it wasn't a glitch it was part of this new system and you knew it[/quoteb19c775855]
It is a glitch. You are making assumptions based on circumstantial evidence that still doesn't point in the direction in which you are taking your conclusion.
The 360 glitch and the policy change are two completely separate and unrelated issues.
YOU are the one linking them.
Alien Zulu
02-03-2006 10:08:43
[quotee1a5278727="Jake"][quotee1a5278727="Alien Zulu"]
you told us it was a glitch
it wasn't a glitch it was part of this new system and you knew it[/quotee1a5278727]
It is a glitch. You are making assumptions based on circumstantial evidence that still doesn't point in the direction in which you are taking your conclusion.
The 360 glitch and the policy change are two completely separate and unrelated issues.
YOU are the one linking them.[/quotee1a5278727]
touche
coolbreeze06
02-03-2006 10:08:56
Jake has done nothing but helped us....do not bite the hand that fed you!!! If he said it a glitch it was a glitch...what does he have to gain in lying!!
midnightgt
02-03-2006 10:13:20
...and the instant credits? glitch or not?
SoBeIcedT
02-03-2006 10:13:58
[quoteff8d307bb6="EatChex89"][quoteff8d307bb6="SoBeIcedT"]I haven't been around FIPG in a while, im back from the days before Jake was around and FreePay was still called Gratis. I have been STV for my DesktopPC for over a month, since 1/20 to be exact, once I get this, im not going to use freepay again. End of Story.
Up to this point I've got a 20GB iPod a Photo iPod and am awaiting the DesktopPC, Never will I go back to FreePay with this 90 day rule. I do advise all of you who have started FreePay sites to finish the ones you have started and not start any others, that is, unless you can def. finish in 90 days.[/quoteff8d307bb6]
woah. it's like you rose from the dead.[/quoteff8d307bb6]
yeah, its been a while
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 10:21:12
Shit, if the offers were really instant, this wouldn't be too bad... except for laptops lol...
[quote74ae80a1d2="midnightgt"]...and the instant credits? glitch or not?[/quote74ae80a1d2]
I don't know what that is all about.
midnightgt
02-03-2006 10:33:04
[quoteefad22001a="Jake"][quoteefad22001a="midnightgt"]...and the instant credits? glitch or not?[/quoteefad22001a]
I don't know what that is all about.[/quoteefad22001a]
Alright, thanks for your continued support even though you work for a company that can care less. You show that employees dont always reflect company policy.
Rodney
02-03-2006 10:35:55
Worst business move ever.
Unless this is boldly stated on the signup page for all freepay sites, it will seem pretty shady. Most likely it will be in the TOS (which is fine, but unfortunately most people won't notice that big change)
To be fair though, it should be for NEW users only, since EXISTING users agreed to a different terms of service and have been already working hard to complete offers.
I think freepay has "jumped the shark" on this one. And I'm a freepay fan.
What worries me even more is the smaller incentive based sites that may try to follow freepay's lead and implement something similar.
Conversely, it may open an opportunity for a new site to set itself apart from freepay's new policy.
I can see how this would discourage people from starting any new freepay sites.
I've completed several and the process [b793b0601be]definitely[/b793b0601be] takes more than 90 days if you are doing it the old fashioned way (without trading). On average, I would say that it took 6 months to a year to finish sites.
I can understand the need to modify their business model on the changing times and to prevent fraud, but this definitely seems extreme.
I hope this is something that will get reversed.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 10:41:11
exactly.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 10:43:08
Freepay was the most, user friendly site, compared to the other ones. Their design, instructions, proof that it works, it looked great. But these new policy throws a rusty nail on the road
ajrock2000
02-03-2006 11:03:36
This 90 day thing should have only been applied to inactive accounts I think. I can see how it would be annoying to them if someone who hasn't even visited their account in 90 days tries to come back and finish...but putting a time limit on getting all the referrals is super lame. Its a good business move though. This is what happens with incentive sites when they become as trustworthy as freepay has...
fgr_admin
02-03-2006 11:07:10
ok I keep seeing all you people bashing freepay, and spouting off that they are trying to run off the people who finish the site.
Well i would like to point out a few things.
If no one ever finished the sites, no one would join. Its bad business to completely run off any one to finish a site.
Secondly most DIY sites have 60 or 90 day time limits, but you don't mind doing them. Also before you reply but doesn't require referrals. Your wrong one of the big threads in DIY is a site that requires 8 greens and 1 referral to do the same. That site has 60 day limit.
Also freepay is just trying to assure themselves a profit. This will enable them to have a MORE ACCURATE forecast of profits and losses. Which will allow them to better asess each site.
One last note, bashing Jake or Freepay wont change anything. Just move on and figure out new plan of attack. Just like with everything else when something changes, you have to find new way to manage it.
thanks
yeah this also means people will have to be careful with whom they trade. I PMd jake about whether or not those with pending orders have to submit the form or not. awaiting his reply (just PMd him).
Zolar
02-03-2006 11:09:07
[quote78fd7bf074="fgr_admin"]ok I keep seeing all you people bashing freepay, and spouting off that they are trying to run off the people who finish the site.
Well i would like to point out a few things.
If no one ever finished the sites, no one would join. Its bad business to completely run off any one to finish a site.
Secondly most DIY sites have 60 or 90 day time limits, but you don't mind doing them. Also before you reply but doesn't require referrals. Your wrong one of the big threads in DIY is a site that requires 8 greens and 1 referral to do the same. That site has 60 day limit.
Also freepay is just trying to assure themselves a profit. This will enable them to have a MORE ACCURATE forecast of profits and losses. Which will allow them to better asess each site.
One last note, bashing Jake or Freepay wont change anything. Just move on and figure out new plan of attack. Just like with everything else when something changes, you have to find new way to manage it.
thanks[/quote78fd7bf074]
ride el freepay's sack.
chazmann
02-03-2006 11:09:17
[quote1f56efc10d="Alien Zulu"][quote1f56efc10d="Jake"][quote1f56efc10d="Alien Zulu"]
so it seems [b1f56efc10d]Jake lied to us[/b1f56efc10d] as well
this whole pending approval "glitch" was actually freepay just lubing up to fuck us in the ass
[/quote1f56efc10d]
Nice try. However, this is completely untrue. Don't make accusations against me that are completely groundless.[/quote1f56efc10d]
then why don't you answer the question i asked?
[quote1f56efc10d="Alien Zulu"]
so if my account is still back at pending approval do i have to do all this snail mail bullshit or what? cause i had been approved for a while and was expecting to get my 360 this month FINALLY. if i have to fill out paperwork and wait another 4 weeks i think i'm going to fucking snap[/quote1f56efc10d][/quote1f56efc10d]
EXACTLY. He's running away from this question. I was in the waiting process and it was taking MUCH longer than expected...and know I know why. They were waiting for march 1st.
I dont see how we have to snail mail this shit now, when we were in the approval process ALREADY.
Why dont you talk to your superiors about THAT jake.
Zolar
02-03-2006 11:11:52
From reading some of the post and jake's inablity to reponse to the question , it seems to me that they're still working on fine-tuning the new policy. The questions that we raised up on disccusion , i believe, they dn't have an answer for yet.
the best way for them to save this is to remove the 3 months limit or take away credit after 3 months but keep your referal.
But we're owned
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 11:32:39
[quote62b7595c12="jy3"]yeah this also means people will have to be careful with whom they trade. I PMd jake about whether or not those with pending orders have to submit the form or not. awaiting his reply (just PMd him).[/quote62b7595c12]
arrggghhh
NO MAN. It's an APPROVAL FORM, you already been approved, thus NO FORMS FOR YOU roll
VrExe
02-03-2006 11:50:14
mpbollywoodking, for a person who hates freepay, you are spending a damn long time on the Freepay forums.
[quoteee3a36839a="chazmann"]
EXACTLY. He's running away from this question. I was in the waiting process and it was taking MUCH longer than expected...and know I know why. They were waiting for march 1st.
[/quoteee3a36839a]
Once again, you are making assumptions based on no evidence and claiming it as being the truth.
[quoteee3a36839a="chazmann"]
I dont see how we have to snail mail this shit now, when we were in the approval process ALREADY.
Why dont you talk to your superiors about THAT jake.[/quoteee3a36839a]
I am waiting for an answer. You didn't see me answer this before?
[quotedef18678d9="Zolar"][quotedef18678d9="fgr_admin"]ok I keep seeing all you people bashing freepay, and spouting off that they are trying to run off the people who finish the site.
Well i would like to point out a few things.
If no one ever finished the sites, no one would join. Its bad business to completely run off any one to finish a site.
Secondly most DIY sites have 60 or 90 day time limits, but you don't mind doing them. Also before you reply but doesn't require referrals. Your wrong one of the big threads in DIY is a site that requires 8 greens and 1 referral to do the same. That site has 60 day limit.
Also freepay is just trying to assure themselves a profit. This will enable them to have a MORE ACCURATE forecast of profits and losses. Which will allow them to better asess each site.
One last note, bashing Jake or Freepay wont change anything. Just move on and figure out new plan of attack. Just like with everything else when something changes, you have to find new way to manage it.
thanks[/quotedef18678d9]
ride el freepay's sack.[/quotedef18678d9]
No, actually, he is telling it like it is. There are actually people here with some business sense.
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 12:00:53
[quotec3780bc933="Jake"]No, actually, he is telling it like it is. There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quotec3780bc933]
Maybe they should apply for upper management at Freepay. D
chazmann
02-03-2006 12:01:23
Im sure you understand why we are a little on edge ?
Aprout
02-03-2006 12:03:32
Everyone here understands the business side of Freepay, but that is not what we are concerned about.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 12:03:46
[quote0fe11d00c5="VrExe"]mpbollywoodking, for a person who hates freepay, you are spending a damn long time on the Freepay forums.[/quote0fe11d00c5]
who said i hate Freepay????????
they gave me my free stuff, how can i hate them wink
justinag06
02-03-2006 12:07:04
no matter what anyone has to say around here, we do owe jake some thanks for stepping into the lions pit and continuing to answer our questions.
fgr is right, 90 days, you won't be able to get every site done probably but in 90 days I completed 4 sites, back in august, september and october.
So it can be done, and although i'm not particularly satisfied with these results it's better than OC.
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 12:07:39
[quote0f5f1e9798="Aprout"]Everyone here understands the business side of Freepay, but that is not what we are concerned about.[/quote0f5f1e9798]
I don't understand it...this made have made sense on paper, but when your business is spread by word of mouth, pissing off a huge chunk of your customer base is never a good business decision.
Alien Zulu
02-03-2006 12:09:25
[quote393b70d1b8="Jake"] There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quote393b70d1b8]
Jake, we understand the business aspect of this. it's good for you because you will be making more money by fucking over your customers.
no one is doubting that you guys are great at business
you just FUCKING BLOW when it comes to BUSINESS ETHICS
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 12:12:27
ouch
90 days isnt bad, but i signed up for all the sites, well almost, there is no way i can finish all of them in 90 days, maybe just one
[quote9cf1719ccc="Alien Zulu"][quote9cf1719ccc="Jake"] There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quote9cf1719ccc]
Jake, we understand the business aspect of this. it's good for you because you will be making more money by fucking over your customers.
no one is doubting that you guys are great at business
you just FUCKING BLOW when it comes to BUSINESS ETHICS[/quote9cf1719ccc]
No, we are protecting our business. You just don't like how we are doing it.
How are we screwing people? Because we don't let them take two years to get five referrals? Maybe we should just keep going the way we were, give away a lot of crap and go out of business...would you prefer that?
Wolfeman
02-03-2006 12:17:04
I'm not happy with the new policy either but if crediting and approvals get better than its not that big a deal (except for laptops which is now really hard to finish).
You guys are all flaming them and bitching about something you CANNOT change. Just deal with it and move on. I'd rather keep Jake here to help than to run him off with all the shit talk because its not going to change a damn thing.
If you have a legitimate question ask, otherwise stop all the flaming...
VrExe
02-03-2006 12:18:34
Don't forget that they are trashing this topic by repeating same thing over and over.
I.E. I hate Freepay, or I'm never doing this site anymore.
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 12:18:35
A lot of sites are 8 referrals, not 5. And saying 90 days is too short does not mean we need 730 days. There has to be a middle ground.
Like I said before, as good as this looks on paper, it means nothing if you lose the majority of your customers.
theysayjump
02-03-2006 12:20:30
[quote1f7fb61496="Alien Zulu"][quote1f7fb61496="Jake"] There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quote1f7fb61496]
Jake, we understand the business aspect of this. it's good for you because you will be making more money by fucking over your customers.
no one is doubting that you guys are great at business
you just FUCKING BLOW when it comes to BUSINESS ETHICS[/quote1f7fb61496]
Maybe when you come back in 5 days you'll have cooled down somewhat.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 12:21:32
Jake, i just got a great idea that you may suggest to your superiors
On the accounts that are NON APPROVAL, give the option to start the 90 day timer and keep it INACTIVE. When the user is ready to start on that account, they can click on a link that will start the 90 day timer
I signed for 4 products (flatscreen, computer, PS3, Shuffle), now there is no way i can finish all that in 90 days. It would be great if i had the option to start the 90 day timer for these accounts.
TSJ, I think you should have a couple of temp-bans in the oven. I've seen many many many people here insulting Jake.
theysayjump
02-03-2006 12:22:54
[quote576ffa9834="Veek"]TSJ, I think you should should have a couple of temp-bans in the oven. I've seen many many many people here insulting Jake.[/quote576ffa9834]
I'm working on it. wink
Link me if you wanna save me some time. wink
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 12:24:12
[quote7f9e26eed8="mpbollywoodking"]Jake, i just got a great idea that you may suggest to your superiors
On the accounts that are NON APPROVAL, give the option to start the 90 day timer and keep it INACTIVE. When the user is ready to start on that account, they can click on a link that will start the 90 day timer
I signed for 4 products (flatscreen, computer, PS3, Shuffle), now there is no way i can finish all that in 90 days. It would be great if i had the option to start the 90 day timer for these accounts.[/quote7f9e26eed8]
I think that defeats the entire purpose of the time limit.
mpbollywoodking
02-03-2006 12:31:53
[quotee724a14cde="drunkmonkey"][quotee724a14cde="mpbollywoodking"]Jake, i just got a great idea that you may suggest to your superiors
On the accounts that are NON APPROVAL, give the option to start the 90 day timer and keep it INACTIVE. When the user is ready to start on that account, they can click on a link that will start the 90 day timer
I signed for 4 products (flatscreen, computer, PS3, Shuffle), now there is no way i can finish all that in 90 days. It would be great if i had the option to start the 90 day timer for these accounts.[/quotee724a14cde]
I think that defeats the entire purpose of the time limit.[/quotee724a14cde]
how, it keeps the accounts INACTIVE, meaning no referrals and no offer completions. It like activating your Freepay account through the verification e=mail
theysayjump
02-03-2006 12:32:36
[u1ef5edf61a][b1ef5edf61a]Flaming will not be tolerated. If you flame anyone you will be banned for 10 days.[/size1ef5edf61a][/b1ef5edf61a][/color1ef5edf61a]
[b1ef5edf61a]There are already two people in this thread having a 5 day vacation but those were just examples. I don't care how pissed you are, keep it civil or you won't be keeping it at all.[/b1ef5edf61a][/size1ef5edf61a][/color1ef5edf61a][/u1ef5edf61a]
i blame history
02-03-2006 12:33:34
i dont know why people are attacking jake. no, i am not happy about this either, but how can it be his fault? i wouldnt blame him if he decided to just stop coming here and answering questions altogether. if you arent happy, want answers, and want to be given information, why would you attack the person who is going to be giving you want you want when he, in fact, doesnt even have to? if i was in his place, i would have said 'screw you guys im going home' a long time ago.
doylnea
02-03-2006 12:34:22
[quote7078eb9cc5="theysayjump"][quote7078eb9cc5="Alien Zulu"][quote7078eb9cc5="Jake"] There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quote7078eb9cc5]
Jake, we understand the business aspect of this. it's good for you because you will be making more money by fucking over your customers.
no one is doubting that you guys are great at business
you just FUCKING BLOW when it comes to BUSINESS ETHICS[/quote7078eb9cc5]
Maybe when you come back in 5 days you'll have cooled down somewhat.[/quote7078eb9cc5]
I'm about to start regulating too. As I've stated before, this is not a place for rudeness. Anyone that can't ask a question without insulting Jake, or making broad accusations gets a 5 day vacation. My bantron button is back from the repair shop.
doylnea
02-03-2006 12:35:14
[quote64160ed9c6="theysayjump"][u64160ed9c6][b64160ed9c6]Flaming will not be tolerated. If you flame anyone you will be banned for 10 days.[/size64160ed9c6][/b64160ed9c6][/color64160ed9c6]
[b64160ed9c6]There are already two people in this thread having a 5 day vacation but those were just examples. I don't care how pissed you are, keep it civil or you won't be keeping it at all.[/b64160ed9c6][/size64160ed9c6][/color64160ed9c6][/u64160ed9c6][/quote64160ed9c6]
Even better. I'm going to have to upgrade my ban button...
Wolfeman
02-03-2006 12:38:26
[quoteab92369203="i blame history"]i dont know why people are attacking jake. no, i am not happy about this either, but how can it be his fault? i wouldnt blame him if he decided to just stop coming here and answering questions altogether. if you arent happy, want answers, and want to be given information, why would you attack the person who is going to be giving you want you want when he, in fact, doesnt even have to? if i was in his place, i would have said 'screw you guys im going home' a long time ago.[/quoteab92369203]
This was my exact point and I was just about to bring mods in here to stop the flame fest but they beat me to it. Everyone had their time to vent so if you have a legitmate question, ask. If not, keep it to yourself...
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 12:45:43
[quote89a9b5601d="mpbollywoodking"][quote89a9b5601d="drunkmonkey"][quote89a9b5601d="mpbollywoodking"]Jake, i just got a great idea that you may suggest to your superiors
On the accounts that are NON APPROVAL, give the option to start the 90 day timer and keep it INACTIVE. When the user is ready to start on that account, they can click on a link that will start the 90 day timer
I signed for 4 products (flatscreen, computer, PS3, Shuffle), now there is no way i can finish all that in 90 days. It would be great if i had the option to start the 90 day timer for these accounts.[/quote89a9b5601d]
I think that defeats the entire purpose of the time limit.[/quote89a9b5601d]
how, it keeps the accounts INACTIVE, meaning no referrals and no offer completions. It like activating your Freepay account through the verification e=mail[/quote89a9b5601d]
"Inactive" means nothing to an accountant http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=343744#343744
doylnea
02-03-2006 12:47:21
[quote3137dd0ae9="Wolfeman"][quote3137dd0ae9="i blame history"]i dont know why people are attacking jake. no, i am not happy about this either, but how can it be his fault? i wouldnt blame him if he decided to just stop coming here and answering questions altogether. if you arent happy, want answers, and want to be given information, why would you attack the person who is going to be giving you want you want when he, in fact, doesnt even have to? if i was in his place, i would have said 'screw you guys im going home' a long time ago.[/quote3137dd0ae9]
This was my exact point and I was just about to bring mods in here to stop the flame fest but they beat me to it. Everyone had their time to vent so if you have a legitmate question, ask. If not, keep it to yourself...[/quote3137dd0ae9]
Hell I said it yesterday, twice. We should have sent people on 5 day vacations earlier.
[quote3137dd0ae9]Some comments
DO NOT MAKE ANOTHER RUDE COMMENT DIRECTED AT JAKE.
As good2speed has wisely pointed out, Jake is here to help, and has gone out of his way (granted as part of his job duties) to do so. It's a rare large scale "free-site" company that makes a point to have a rep (yes it's self-serving and in the end, they make more money because of it).
THE VULGARITY IS NOT NEEDED, NOR NECESSARY TO MAKE YOUR POINT
Stop it. Grow up. Learn to use words other than gay or bullshit to make your point.
YES THIS IS A BIG CHANGE
No one, not even Jake, knows how this is all going to play out. Please post constructive suggestions for Freepay. DO NOT POST ACCOUNT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
FREEPAY HAS EVERY RIGHT WITHIN THE TOS TO WHICH YOU AGREED TO CHANGE THEIR TERMS
That's part of agreeing to the terms, particularly the clause where they state
[quote3137dd0ae9="Freepay/Gratis"]Gratis Internet, Inc ("Gratis Internet") reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to change its Terms & Conditions at any time, for any reason, without notice.[/quote3137dd0ae9]
I'm going to go home now and take a break from the forums, I suggest everyone take a deep breath and wait a day or two, to see how everything plays out.
Thanks[/quote3137dd0ae9]
good2speed
02-03-2006 12:58:45
[quotee4215e011d="Wolfeman"]I'm not happy with the new policy either but if crediting and approvals get better than its not that big a deal (except for laptops which is now really hard to finish).
You guys are all flaming them and bitching about something you CANNOT change. Just deal with it and move on. I'd rather keep Jake here to help than to run him off with all the shit talk because its not going to change a damn thing.
If you have a legitimate question ask, otherwise stop all the flaming...[/quotee4215e011d]
cosigned
AlienZulu
02-03-2006 13:09:27
[quote226bae2fb9="Jake"][quote226bae2fb9="Alien Zulu"][quote226bae2fb9="Jake"] There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quote226bae2fb9]
Jake, we understand the business aspect of this. it's good for you because you will be making more money by fucking over your customers.
no one is doubting that you guys are great at business
you just FUCKING BLOW when it comes to BUSINESS ETHICS[/quote226bae2fb9]
No, we are protecting our business. You just don't like how we are doing it.
How are we screwing people? Because we don't let them take two years to get five referrals? Maybe we should just keep going the way we were, give away a lot of crap and go out of business...would you prefer that?[/quote226bae2fb9]
i find it hard to believe that you guys are in any danger of going out of business right now, but neither of us is going to be able to prove that one way or the other.
this is clearly a move to reduce the number of people who complete your sites whether they are actively trying or not. if someone has 7/8 referrals and their account is closed before they can get the 8th that is bullshit. and you know that that is going to happen to many people. 90 days is an extremely tight timeframe to complete the sites the way you guys have them set up now. i signed up and was actively recruiting referrals for 7 months before i was able to get 8 greens. it would have been very stressfull to squeeze that down to 90 days.
for a site that works almost completely by word of mouth you just pissed off a bunch of regular/loyal customers. if you guys needed to make more money i think you took it out on the wrong end of your customer base. you should have been raving about your popularity to the people that use you for advertising and started charging them more. or maybe you guys took a bite out of both ends. who knows?
good2speed
02-03-2006 13:12:12
what are you tring to prove alien that hasnt been said in 10 pages already?
Just live with it
No matter how hard you cry or yell Freepay's policy is here to stay
BTW I don't think Jake had any input involved in this policy change.
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 13:20:30
I just got my 5th referral on giftcards, how do I submit for approval?
doylnea
02-03-2006 13:21:28
[quote70784da116="AlienZulu"][quote70784da116="Jake"][quote70784da116="Alien Zulu"][quote70784da116="Jake"] There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quote70784da116]
Jake, we understand the business aspect of this. it's good for you because you will be making more money by fucking over your customers.
no one is doubting that you guys are great at business
you just FUCKING BLOW when it comes to BUSINESS ETHICS[/quote70784da116]
No, we are protecting our business. You just don't like how we are doing it.
How are we screwing people? Because we don't let them take two years to get five referrals? Maybe we should just keep going the way we were, give away a lot of crap and go out of business...would you prefer that?[/quote70784da116]
i find it hard to believe that you guys are in any danger of going out of business right now, but neither of us is going to be able to prove that one way or the other.
this is clearly a move to reduce the number of people who complete your sites whether they are actively trying or not. if someone has 7/8 referrals and their account is closed before they can get the 8th that is bullshit. and you know that that is going to happen to many people. 90 days is an extremely tight timeframe to complete the sites the way you guys have them set up now. i signed up and was actively recruiting referrals for 7 months before i was able to get 8 greens. it would have been very stressfull to squeeze that down to 90 days.
for a site that works almost completely by word of mouth you just pissed off a bunch of regular/loyal customers. if you guys needed to make more money i think you took it out on the wrong end of your customer base. you should have been raving about your popularity to the people that use you for advertising and started charging them more. or maybe you guys took a bite out of both ends. who knows?[/quote70784da116]
And now you're IP perma banned. See ya.
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 13:22:06
[quote419b75da53="good2speed"]No matter how hard you cry or yell Freepay's policy is here to stay[/quote419b75da53]
Do you honestly believe that? I'm not saying he's going about it the right way, but of course customers have a say in company policies. If not for us, they cease to exist. This new rule is what, 1 day old now? To pretend it's etched in stone is ludicrous.
theysayjump
02-03-2006 13:23:19
[quote41857502be="doylnea"][quote41857502be="AlienZulu"][quote41857502be="Jake"][quote41857502be="Alien Zulu"][quote41857502be="Jake"] There are actually people here with some business sense.[/quote41857502be]
Jake, we understand the business aspect of this. it's good for you because you will be making more money by fucking over your customers.
no one is doubting that you guys are great at business
you just FUCKING BLOW when it comes to BUSINESS ETHICS[/quote41857502be]
No, we are protecting our business. You just don't like how we are doing it.
How are we screwing people? Because we don't let them take two years to get five referrals? Maybe we should just keep going the way we were, give away a lot of crap and go out of business...would you prefer that?[/quote41857502be]
i find it hard to believe that you guys are in any danger of going out of business right now, but neither of us is going to be able to prove that one way or the other.
this is clearly a move to reduce the number of people who complete your sites whether they are actively trying or not. if someone has 7/8 referrals and their account is closed before they can get the 8th that is bullshit. and you know that that is going to happen to many people. 90 days is an extremely tight timeframe to complete the sites the way you guys have them set up now. i signed up and was actively recruiting referrals for 7 months before i was able to get 8 greens. it would have been very stressfull to squeeze that down to 90 days.
for a site that works almost completely by word of mouth you just pissed off a bunch of regular/loyal customers. if you guys needed to make more money i think you took it out on the wrong end of your customer base. you should have been raving about your popularity to the people that use you for advertising and started charging them more. or maybe you guys took a bite out of both ends. who knows?[/quote41857502be]
And now you're IP perma banned. See ya.[/quote41857502be]
roll I was about to do the same, thanks for saving me 36 seconds. wink
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 13:24:05
Just make the completion time a ratio to how many referrals a site takes. You should get a year for laptops, 90 days for 5 referral sites, 180 days for 10 referral sites. Thay would make a lot more sense and be a lot more fair. Can someone tell me how to submit for approval im so confused.
Narakukuku
02-03-2006 13:26:37
Wow.
Emotions are running high. I'm on my last freepay site and it's near completion already. They are now employing methods typical of many DIY sites. It's all an attempt to discourage people from completing their sites. This is how they make money. Who has the time/patience needed to gather 5-21 refs in record time, fill out a lengthly form, mail in said form, check the website religiously over the next month for a status change, and then remember to order online? A small percentage of people and many of them will be from forums such as this one. As is, the majority of the people who sign up never complete the site. The whole thing is laughable.
...But at the same time they could have just started randomly dqing people for silly reasons, shutting down sites, listing nothing but OODs, etc. Maybe this isn't so bad.
I don't even check the email address I used to sign up for my last freepay site very often and I never visit this part of the forum so I consider myself lucky to be in the know. Many people are going to remain ignorant for some time.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I will probably go on Freebie hiatus soon.
fgr_admin
02-03-2006 13:28:18
Everyone here is just looking at it in the wrong way. As I see it this will actually help people finish the sites.
lili(No I am not riding freepays nut sack! I have finished all but 2 freepay sites and only need 4 more greens to finish last 2. So this doesn't effect me at all)lili
Here is how I see it.
1) 90% of all freepay initial joiners do not do so via this forum. In fact most only find this forum after they get bored trying to find friends to join.
2) With a time limit people will be more encouraged to flock to forums like this to try and finish a site. This will bring in larger amounts of people who can trade.
3) When Gratis originally opened they advertised on Yahoo's main page. They stopped advertising once they grew too large and profits diminished. This new policy will bring a new cash flow that will enable freepay more options in making the site better. From
Advertising
Lowering referrals needed
Speedier crediting
better customer service (being able to hire more people)
So you can all cry over spilled milk but I think you should just think positively about it.
ANYTHING that allows freepay to continue to give away FREE stuff should be encouraged.
Also one last note I keep seeing people post that Freepay is pissing of the core joiners. Well I hate to tell you this but I am pretty sure more people join freepay outside of Fipg then join via here. So we are a minority.
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 13:35:17
[quotea2a3837f41="fgr_admin"]Also one last note I keep seeing people post that Freepay is pissing of the core joiners. Well I hate to tell you this but I am pretty sure more people join freepay outside of Fipg then join via here. So we are a minority.[/quotea2a3837f41]
Yes, but I'd say the majority of repeat customers are on these forums. I could be wrong. Then again, this new rule doesn't only affect people in the forums.
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 13:37:33
[quote28fb20b05a="drunkmonkey"][quote28fb20b05a="fgr_admin"]Also one last note I keep seeing people post that Freepay is pissing of the core joiners. Well I hate to tell you this but I am pretty sure more people join freepay outside of Fipg then join via here. So we are a minority.[/quote28fb20b05a]
Yes, but I'd say the majority of repeat customers are on these forums. I could be wrong. Then again, this new rule doesn't only affect people in the forums.[/quote28fb20b05a]
Freepay hates us because we finish the sites. I have gotten so many people under me to get like 3 referals then just give up. Freepay loves them. This new rule doesn't affect me as long as they still send out my gifts )
[quote17826ff565="Drummer16161616"]I just got my 5th referral on giftcards, how do I submit for approval?[/quote17826ff565]
The button does not appear in the usual manner?
good2speed
02-03-2006 13:42:14
[quote8805e4369b="drunkmonkey"][quote8805e4369b="good2speed"]No matter how hard you cry or yell Freepay's policy is here to stay[/quote8805e4369b]
Do you honestly believe that? I'm not saying he's going about it the right way, but of course customers have a say in company policies. If not for us, they cease to exist. This new rule is what, 1 day old now? To pretend it's etched in stone is ludicrous.[/quote8805e4369b]
I mean you can go cry and yell but its apparent the comp execs have spoken. When they made this decision they did it for whatever personal reasons they had to. Obviously our acceptance of the policy wasn't too much of a factor in making that decision. Obviously they have their own personal business reasons to do so and I'm not here to speculate since I wasn't there.
What speaks louder ythan words will ever do is sales forecasts.
If new customers are aware of the policy and aree turned off by them then it hurts Freepay's bottom line. Let them look at the financial forecast after a few months and if their plan fails they will be left with limited options.
The way I see it
We are just customers.
Customers don't make company decisions. While we may provide input the company will decide whats best for its own personal interest. Like I said before I'm sure they analyzed the change and have a good reason for doing so. Even thoguh I may disagree with their policy.
Let sales forecast determine their fate.
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 13:52:45
[quotecdb4bc587e="Jake"][quotecdb4bc587e="Drummer16161616"]I just got my 5th referral on giftcards, how do I submit for approval?[/quotecdb4bc587e]
The button does not appear in the usual manner?[/quotecdb4bc587e]
No, it just looks like normal. I don't have the button like when I usually get all the referrals. It says you have completed ur requirements then you have 5 referrals like normal but no button.
justinag06
02-03-2006 13:53:05
[quoteebad5780df="fgr_admin"]Everyone here is just looking at it in the wrong way. As I see it this will actually help people finish the sites.
lili(No I am not riding freepays nut sack! I have finished all but 2 freepay sites and only need 4 more greens to finish last 2. So this doesn't effect me at all)lili
Here is how I see it.
1) 90% of all freepay initial joiners do not do so via this forum. In fact most only find this forum after they get bored trying to find friends to join.
2) With a time limit people will be more encouraged to flock to forums like this to try and finish a site. This will bring in larger amounts of people who can trade.
3) When Gratis originally opened they advertised on Yahoo's main page. They stopped advertising once they grew too large and profits diminished. This new policy will bring a new cash flow that will enable freepay more options in making the site better. From
Advertising
Lowering referrals needed
Speedier crediting
better customer service (being able to hire more people)
So you can all cry over spilled milk but I think you should just think positively about it.
ANYTHING that allows freepay to continue to give away FREE stuff should be encouraged.
Also one last note I keep seeing people post that Freepay is pissing of the core joiners. Well I hate to tell you this but I am pretty sure more people join freepay outside of Fipg then join via here. So we are a minority.[/quoteebad5780df]
well... as far as more trading here that isnt exactly true, in 3 months 95% of all freepay trading here will be done.
Tholek
02-03-2006 13:54:05
[quote665a9f9011="Jake"]How are we screwing people? Because we don't let them take two years to get five referrals? Maybe we should just keep going the way we were, give away a lot of crap and go out of business...would you prefer that?[/quote665a9f9011]
2 years for 5 refs [i665a9f9011]would[/i665a9f9011] be a bit much. ;)
[quote665a9f9011="drunkmonkey"]A lot of sites are 8 referrals, not 5. And saying 90 days is too short does not mean we need 730 days. There has to be a middle ground.[/quote665a9f9011]
Ditto.
[quote665a9f9011="Drummer16161616"]Just make the completion time a ratio to how many referrals a site takes. You should get a year for laptops, 90 days for 5 referral sites, 180 days for 10 referral sites. Thay would make a lot more sense and be a lot more fair.[/quote665a9f9011]
Ditto again.
[quote665a9f9011="drunkmonkey"][quote665a9f9011="mpbollywoodking"][quote665a9f9011="drunkmonkey"][quote665a9f9011="mpbollywoodking"]Jake, i just got a great idea that you may suggest to your superiors
On the accounts that are NON APPROVAL, give the option to start the 90 day timer and keep it INACTIVE. When the user is ready to start on that account, they can click on a link that will start the 90 day timer
I signed for 4 products (flatscreen, computer, PS3, Shuffle), now there is no way i can finish all that in 90 days. It would be great if i had the option to start the 90 day timer for these accounts.[/quote665a9f9011]
I think that defeats the entire purpose of the time limit.[/quote665a9f9011]
how, it keeps the accounts INACTIVE, meaning no referrals and no offer completions. It like activating your Freepay account through the verification e=mail[/quote665a9f9011]
"Inactive" means nothing to an accountant http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=343744#343744[/quote665a9f9011]
Like I said before, I'd only see that happening if you had to [b665a9f9011]lose[/b665a9f9011] the referrals you had accrued up to that point. That would enforce a penalty, yet not deny the individual from [b665a9f9011]ever[/b665a9f9011] doing the site.
I'm currently signed up for the following
Laptops
iPod Nanos
Gaming Systems
Digital Cameras
Handbags
Now, prior to laptops going online, I was working on Nanos, but I put it off, because while a nano would be cool to have, I [b665a9f9011]needed[/b665a9f9011] a laptop. (Jeez, I only have the remnants of a P133Mhz) Naturally, I believed I had time to work on the others subsequently, once I completed laptops. (
The policy, as it stands, would lock me out of all the sites if I don't complete them in 90 days. That doesn't make sense, when they could simply reset the account, or close it, allowing an individual to do it again, including their required offer completion. That would penalize, [i665a9f9011]and[/i665a9f9011] increase revenue.
I mean, they could always fail to complete in time again....
Jake, can you clear one thing up?
If I have [b665a9f9011]NO[/b665a9f9011] refs on a site, and haven't done the offer myself, can I sign up again when the account lapses?
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 13:55:02
Oh I jsut went to IE and now it shows up. That's weird! It doesn't work in Mozilla for me.
drunkmonkey
02-03-2006 13:57:38
[quotedf5bb48791="Tholek"]Like I said before, I'd only see that happening if you had to [bdf5bb48791]lose[/bdf5bb48791] the referrals you had accrued up to that point. That would enforce a penalty, yet not deny the individual from [bdf5bb48791]ever[/bdf5bb48791] doing the site.[/quotedf5bb48791]
Did Jake ever confirm that isn't how it works?
Tholek
02-03-2006 13:58:22
One other thing, and this doesn't make me better than anyone else, but I have [b0d038cba6a]NEVER[/b0d038cba6a] signed up for a site in order to sell the gift afterward.
I've only signed up for things that I needed, and wanted to keep. So when I said I wanted that laptop, I really did.
Silly me... ;)
Tholek
02-03-2006 13:59:30
[quote0ff8c12ee9="drunkmonkey"][quote0ff8c12ee9="Tholek"]Like I said before, I'd only see that happening if you had to [b0ff8c12ee9]lose[/b0ff8c12ee9] the referrals you had accrued up to that point. That would enforce a penalty, yet not deny the individual from [b0ff8c12ee9]ever[/b0ff8c12ee9] doing the site.[/quote0ff8c12ee9]
Did Jake ever confirm that isn't how it works?[/quote0ff8c12ee9]
No, he hasn't commented on that, because I think he might be asking about it.
tramahound
02-03-2006 14:08:30
What the hell?! I just went to check my giftcard site before leaving work and it said I was approved and could get my card sent. I just sent my approval form in today via $4 priority mail but it couldn't possibly have gotten there already could it? am I missing something or do I still have to technically get approved? I'm confused with all this stuff going on lately!
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 14:09:47
Anyone know what recorded mail is? I saw someone ask this question but I do not know if anyone ever gave an answer.
Tholek
02-03-2006 14:12:48
[quotec5da3ecff9="Drummer16161616"]Anyone know what recorded mail is? I saw someone ask this question but I do not know if anyone ever gave an answer.[/quotec5da3ecff9]
I'm hoping "recorded" mail was a typo, because from what I know, recorded is what you use to get proof for sending a letter or package [ic5da3ecff9]internationally[/ic5da3ecff9], not domestically. I'd think they meant certified, but I guess Jake can clear that up.
Tholek
02-03-2006 14:15:44
Ah, some info
http//www.usps.com/global/intlspecialservices.htm#H1
http//pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc3_006.html
I'm not sure if they're going to use their new-found profits for more customer service reps, but I hope they hire more people to manually check accounts over.
Drummer16161616
02-03-2006 14:32:05
[quote8239676e52="Tholek"]Ah, some info
http//www.usps.com/global/intlspecialservices.htm#H1
http//pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc3_006.html[/quote8239676e52]
Thanks man. Umm can we just send a normal envelope? I'm confused lol.
Alien Zulu1
02-03-2006 14:32:33
[quotefdfb7b3208="doylnea"]
And now you're IP perma banned. See ya.[/quotefdfb7b3208]
OMG not an IP perma ban!!!!!! roll
please
i can get a new IP faster than you can ban one
Tholek
02-03-2006 14:46:14
[quote000487cb12="Drummer16161616"][quote000487cb12="Tholek"]Ah, some info
http//www.usps.com/global/intlspecialservices.htm#H1
http//pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immc3_006.html[/quote000487cb12]
Thanks man. Umm can we just send a normal envelope? I'm confused lol.[/quote000487cb12]
I'd say to send it certified, unless Jake says otherwise, but regular mail would be ok. I'd just want proof they got it.
Wolfeman
02-03-2006 14:48:17
Priority Mail has delivery conformation and costs $4.15 ($4 something)...
Tholek
02-03-2006 14:53:05
Priority only has delivery confirmation online. Certified gives you physical proof it was sent, [i16d2fc3336]and[/i16d2fc3336] that.
It's also half the price. ;)
I'd add a return receipt too.
http//www.usps.com/send/waystosendmail/extraservices/optionalserviceandfeaturefees.htm#CertifiedMail
zer0dmb
02-03-2006 14:57:30
I am not so sure that Freepay would be too concerned with losing some of you "core users" as customers.
Look at it this way, as someone else said, most new users won't pick up on this in the TOS, so they won't know. If they don't know, it won't turn them off from the site. Plus, if they are newbies, they are not going to realize that getting X amount of refs in 90 days can be tough, especially without trading. 90 Days only sounds hard after you have finished a few sites, and know whats up.
Therefore, the only people who are going to know about the policy change, and the difficulty it brings, are the people on here and A4F, and other places. And honestly, the people on here and elsewhere are the ones that cost Freepay the most money, because we all know how to get our gifts. So, I think the only customers they stand to lose are the ones that are not creating revenue anyway.
I am not saying they are dicking anyone over, but if you think about it, they are only alienating the people who don't make them money, so they may not care if you never do a site again, because you get your gift, and they only get the $100 or so in Affiliate fees.
Just my two cents...
/zer0
shortys408
02-03-2006 15:09:00
everyone keeps saying that we are not a large part of their customer pool. I disagree. We, as a community, are a small part of their customer pool but for each ipod or psp account we finish WE gave them five new customers at least and possibly many more that wish to find referrals before completing an offer.
bspence
02-03-2006 15:10:10
How the heck is someone suppose to come up with 20 referals in 90 days? There must be some exceptions.
Rodney
02-03-2006 15:13:36
[quote05916d1749]How are we screwing people? Because we don't let them take two years to get five referrals? Maybe we should just keep going the way we were, give away a lot of crap and go out of business...would you prefer that?[/quote05916d1749]
I think there's a big area of working room between 2 years and 90 days.
I know you guys probably crunched the numbers on this and hopefully looked at the average time it takes to complete required referrals, but 90 days just seems short.
It seems geared towards the professional freebie crowd (trading/paying for referrals) which don't seem to be the best for freepay's business.
The regular people that just talk to their friends, share their links in their blogs, etc almost don't have a chance with a 90 day limit. Especially for some of the prizes that require a large number of referrals.
I can sort of understand the need for a time limit (although if a user completes his 5th referral after 2 years, you've still had the advertising income from those 4 referrals for many years and those 4 referrals have probably created ad income from their referrals).
I just think 90 days is too short of time span based on my experience in completing your sites. I feel it will also hurt the word of mouth aspect that helped freepay grow.
Incentive based marketing companies that rely on word of mouth have always had to adapt their business model based on changing times, ad rates, etc.
I remember way back when a company called AllAdvantage pioneered and rocked the pay-to-surf world. It was great for a while, and the people that used it legitimately and got referrals made some good money (including me), but they had to change because ad rates went down, fraud went up, and other factors.
It was sad to see them go out of business, but I think you can change your business model and still be fair to customers.
hrdfarkr
02-03-2006 15:20:10
[quotec058f53818="zer0dmb"]I am not so sure that Freepay would be too concerned with losing some of you "core users" as customers.
liSNIPli
Just my two cents...
/zer0[/quotec058f53818]
Actually, we core customers represent a large part of their advertising. They may only get the 100 bucks on our affiliate leads from US, but from our signups, and from all the wasted refs from all the people who sign up and go green on stuff we've littered the internet with they still make money. I would love to see the actual percentage of traffic driven from advertising vs traffic driven from conga site members and forum site members struggling to get refs.
Let's face a simple fact, we were important enough for them to have one of their reps here to answer questions. The situation now is they are seeing the dwindling end of their income, and with all the major items already out there, and the potential for alot of the stagnant refs to suddenly come to life they stand the chance to lose some money.
I think Gigante pointed it out in another thread, every big payout was meet with another big release. Why? because in order to ship they need new signups for new income. The general public has grown bored with this phenomena, we keep it alive.
By setting up this new system, I think they essentially put a strangle hold on their future by rejecting this section of their audience that works to get refs. Most members of this site have already signed up for all of their existing sites, when they all get DQ'd come June 1st, thats income for them from all the money from refs that has been held for all this time, money which they can freely use for othr things since we can now never complete the site.
Rodney
02-03-2006 15:40:22
[quote5281aea29a]Therefore, the only people who are going to know about the policy change, and the difficulty it brings, are the people on here and A4F, and other places.[/quote5281aea29a]
To freepay's credit, they also sent out an email to all existing users. So it's not just this crowd that will know about the change.
EatChex89
02-03-2006 15:52:52
i'm not telling my referrals that there has to be a 90 completion -D
i blame history
02-03-2006 15:58:04
[quotee2fed91610="EatChex89"]i'm not telling my referrals that there has to be a 90 completion -D[/quotee2fed91610]
be careful with that... they will see it, not be happy, and it will probably ruin your "street cred" or whatever the kids call it these days. either that, or they will sign up, see it, and tell you they arent going to do an offer.
zer0dmb
02-03-2006 16:01:53
[quote036ca5af6b="hrdfarkr"]
Let's face a simple fact, we were important enough for them to have one of their reps here to answer questions.
[/quote036ca5af6b]
Touche'. That is a pretty good point.
Wolfeman
02-03-2006 16:03:28
We are important to them but we are also taking a big chuck of profits by completing sites so efficiently. Its a give and take...
shortys408
02-03-2006 16:09:54
I think we give more then we take. The people we refer to these sites out weights what they loose from us IMO.
zer0dmb
02-03-2006 16:10:05
[quoteb5f59653d7="Rodney"][quoteb5f59653d7]Therefore, the only people who are going to know about the policy change, and the difficulty it brings, are the people on here and A4F, and other places.[/quoteb5f59653d7]
To freepay's credit, they also sent out an email to all existing users. So it's not just this crowd that will know about the change.[/quoteb5f59653d7]
True, and a good point, but I was more referring to brand new customers. People who sign up for the first site ever.
And actually, I should probably retract my statement about no one knowing, as I noticed Freepay is stating it on the signup page. But, I still think that newbies may not know that for a free laptop, 90 days is not that long.
![]("b5f59653d7)
http/" alt=""/img385.imageshack.us/img="385/9134/freepay6op.jpg[" alt=""/imgb5f59653d7]
[quotef021c2bfd6="From freepay image above"]To be eligible for a free Laptop you must complete all [bf021c2bfd6][if021c2bfd6]necassary[/if021c2bfd6][/bf021c2bfd6] requirements within 90 days of signing up.[/quotef021c2bfd6]
Pffft...spellcheck? Who needs it?
okdude
02-03-2006 16:45:13
[quotee3076fa249="okdude"]http//www.petitionspot.com[/sizee3076fa249][/colore3076fa249]
somebody gotta do it![/sizee3076fa249][/quotee3076fa249]
okdude
02-03-2006 16:47:03
I got charged more than 20 bucks in my credit card, but I wasnt mad because i knew I was getting a digital camera,
A DIGITAL CAMERA!!!!
2 months and 2 credits (and more than 30 refs).
NICE JOB FREEPAY, ASSHOLES!!!!!
Wolfeman
02-03-2006 16:47:29
The boycott is a joke...
CollidgeGraduit
02-03-2006 16:48:51
[quote613b4ff22d="Wolfeman"]The boycott is a joke...[/quote613b4ff22d]
I think this is at least the 3rd boycott of Freepay/Gratis that I've seen in 2 years. Freepay will go on just fine.
Rodney
02-03-2006 16:55:06
[quote870b989bcf]And actually, I should probably retract my statement about no one knowing, as I noticed Freepay is stating it on the signup page.[/quote870b989bcf]
That's a good move on their part not burying it in the TOS.
(not a good move with the misspelling ))
[quote870b989bcf]Freepay will go on just fine.[/quote870b989bcf]
Normally I would agree. But I think this move will definitely slow down their business and possibly cost them to lose some of their good will.
I don't think a petition is going to do anything, but I'm not sure freepay will "go on just fine" after this move.
It's a drastic change to the way their business works that makes it much more challenging to actually get a free gift. Only time will tell if their brand of marketing can survive the switch.
We'll see where things are 6 months to a year from now.
EatChex89
02-03-2006 17:37:27
[quoted2cd7a27de="CollidgeGraduit"][quoted2cd7a27de="Wolfeman"]The boycott is a joke...[/quoted2cd7a27de]
I think this is at least the 3rd boycott of Freepay/Gratis that I've seen in 2 years. Freepay will go on just fine.[/quoted2cd7a27de]
haha i was about to say something along those lines when I saw that sig.. hahahaha. like his sig is going to do anything roll
amir89630
02-03-2006 17:38:45
what makes me even more mad is that, even if u get all ur stuff done in one week, you still have to wait a month before u can submit for approval. I have been shafted. WHY. can't take too long, can't do it too quick, wtf freepay.
CollidgeGraduit
02-03-2006 17:41:25
[quote86340e5109="EatChex89"][quote86340e5109="CollidgeGraduit"][quote86340e5109="Wolfeman"]The boycott is a joke...[/quote86340e5109]
I think this is at least the 3rd boycott of Freepay/Gratis that I've seen in 2 years. Freepay will go on just fine.[/quote86340e5109]
haha i was about to say something along those lines when I saw that sig.. hahahaha. like his sig is going to do anything roll[/quote86340e5109]
haha, some guy even went so far as to create a protest site with forums.. ImOnHold.com I think. lol
GiftMonsterKyle
02-03-2006 17:55:13
Yes.
editli disregard this post, was replying to something on the last page but didn't realize it.
vinsanitee
02-03-2006 18:01:38
The way I see it Freepay never saw us as their customers...We are not the ones who are paying for their service, the offer companies do that...Freepay offers a service, advertising, that service is subscribed to by companies looking for new sign ups...we are NOT their customers in the traditional sense, we pay the companies, and the companies pay them...
To me, the USERS of freepay are more or less like pawns in the game of advertising...Freepay found a way to generate new customers for companies in a unique way, and that's great for them. I'm actually surprised they show so much interest in us at all, in their point of view this group here is the worst for them business-wise...We finish sites quickly, rarely keep the subscriptions, sign up for things we aren't really interested in, do multiple sites, and everytime they send something out they are losing money...Other than the amount of exposure they get on the internet because of us, they really have no interest to go out of their way to keep this group happy...Don't get your hopes up, Freepay will NOT go back on this decision because of what we think, Jake is probably just here to make sure that the outrage doesn't go too far to the point where they have bad "internet cred"...
That's just my thoughts on the situation...
midnightgt
02-03-2006 20:16:55
I disagree with all the people saying arguing against this and boycotting freepay will get us no where. Im officially a boycotter (see sig), but I also did not go so far as to make a website.
Basicly the only way freepay will even reconsider this move is if they see what a negative impact it has, and how it's users feel about it. Pawns or not, we may not be paying them, but we are the cause of thier pay.
Wolfeman
02-03-2006 20:18:44
They will not reconsider so you boycott makes me laugh. We are the reason they made this policy so why would they care?
JerriBlank
02-03-2006 20:32:34
[quote95304c8dbd="Wolfeman"]They will not reconsider so you boycott makes me laugh. We are the reason they made this policy so why would they care?[/quote95304c8dbd]
True. A boycott by those who know how to complete offers and earn trades would be the exact people they'd want to alienate.
jb
midnightgt
02-03-2006 21:38:16
Which would also be a boycott by a crowd that draws in a large group of more people, who mostly dont complete. And if those people are not joining, niether are thier referalls...They would lose a chain of people.
Do what you want tho, support freepay. Trainn will get most my time. In fact, I am going to finish ipodsfreepay, and probally sell the ipod. Ill have money for myself, and money to buy trainn referalls...even if it takes me 91 days.
johnjimjones
02-03-2006 22:24:56
[quoted3eb681bb1="midnightgt"]Which would also be a boycott by a crowd that draws in a large group of more people, who mostly dont complete. And if those people are not joining, niether are thier referalls...They would lose a chain of people.
Do what you want tho, support freepay. Trainn will get most my time. In fact, I am going to finish ipodsfreepay, and probally sell the iPod. Ill have money for myself, and money to buy trainn referalls...even if it takes me 91 days.[/quoted3eb681bb1]
Who cares? You've been here a little over a month and you're boycotting?
roll
midnightgt
03-03-2006 00:26:48
[quote13ab80dca7="johnjimjones"][quote13ab80dca7="midnightgt"]Which would also be a boycott by a crowd that draws in a large group of more people, who mostly dont complete. And if those people are not joining, niether are thier referalls...They would lose a chain of people.
Do what you want tho, support freepay. Trainn will get most my time. In fact, I am going to finish ipodsfreepay, and probally sell the iPod. Ill have money for myself, and money to buy trainn referalls...even if it takes me 91 days.[/quote13ab80dca7]
Who cares? You've been here a little over a month and you're boycotting?
roll[/quote13ab80dca7]
And my timeframe spent on a message board consitutes my entire involvement in freebies? Hmm..I liked cars since I was 5, but that doesnt count because i got on car forums at age 18. I love this site, but it is far from end all be all of the freebie world, ur forgetting the core freebie sites.
Thus, postcount/start date here has no reflection on a 3rd part (freepay)
but thanks for your concern, im glad u joined awhile ago.
okdude
03-03-2006 00:35:05
1. no instant greens
2. the new 90 days policy.
3. I can't login.
BULLSHIT.
[quote208eea076d]
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and they are a proud of this
![]("208eea076d)
http//digitalcameras.freepay.com/Content/Global/2/images/signup/asseenonUS.jpg[" alt=""/img208eea076d]
[img="208eea076d]http//digitalcameras.freepay.com/Content/Global/2/images/signup/featured_sponsorsUS.jpg[" alt=""/img208eea076d]
[size=18208eea076d]cnn eh!?!?!? lets e-mail cnn,fox,citi,blockbuster etc...
a scammy company is using their image to promote themselve, nice eh??[/size208eea076d]
okdude
03-03-2006 00:36:54
[quote12b4152295="johnjimjones"][quote12b4152295="midnightgt"]Which would also be a boycott by a crowd that draws in a large group of more people, who mostly dont complete. And if those people are not joining, niether are thier referalls...They would lose a chain of people.
Do what you want tho, support freepay. Trainn will get most my time. In fact, I am going to finish ipodsfreepay, and probally sell the iPod. Ill have money for myself, and money to buy trainn referalls...even if it takes me 91 days.[/quote12b4152295]
Who cares? You've been here a little over a month and you're boycotting?
roll[/quote12b4152295]
are the freepay dudes(owners of freepay) giving you head ???
Wolfeman
03-03-2006 00:39:56
Now they are a scamming site?
fgr_admin
03-03-2006 01:41:43
[quotedb66545f8e="midnightgt"]I disagree with all the people saying arguing against this and boycotting freepay will get us no where. Im officially a boycotter (see sig), but I also did not go so far as to make a website.
Basicly the only way freepay will even reconsider this move is if they see what a negative impact it has, and how it's users feel about it. Pawns or not, we may not be paying them, but we are the cause of thier pay.[/quotedb66545f8e]
ok let me just say this so you can stop with the boycott idea.
Freepay did not add the 90 day policy because they were bored. Or having a bad hair day, or trying to run you off.
Freepay made these changes because they were losing money. I would bet money that when they sat down and decided on this option "CLOSING FREEPAY" was discussed.
As freepay became more and more popular more and more people started finishing the site. Freepay ONLY makes money off people who dont finish the site. They need @10 people to not finish for evey person who does.
So as that number dropped freepay started making less and less.
Now they are at the point where it was close shop or change how they operate.
I prefer this over closing.
So if you boycott and for some miracle win, you wont like the outcome. It won't be going back to the old way it will be closure.[/sizedb66545f8e]
So stop crying, and be glad freepay is reorganizing and trying to continue to give out FREE stuff.
okdude
03-03-2006 02:21:44
[quote8fab9416d5="fgr_admin"][quote8fab9416d5="midnightgt"]I disagree with all the people saying arguing against this and boycotting freepay will get us no where. Im officially a boycotter (see sig), but I also did not go so far as to make a website.
Basicly the only way freepay will even reconsider this move is if they see what a negative impact it has, and how it's users feel about it. Pawns or not, we may not be paying them, but we are the cause of thier pay.[/quote8fab9416d5]
ok let me just say this so you can stop with the boycott idea.
Freepay did not add the 90 day policy because they were bored. Or having a bad hair day, or trying to run you off.
Freepay made these changes because they were losing money. I would bet money that when they sat down and decided on this option "CLOSING FREEPAY" was discussed.
As freepay became more and more popular more and more people started finishing the site. Freepay ONLY makes money off people who dont finish the site. They need @10 people to not finish for evey person who does.
So as that number dropped freepay started making less and less.
Now they are at the point where it was close shop or change how they operate.
I prefer this over closing.
So if you boycott and for some miracle win, you wont like the outcome. It won't be going back to the old way it will be closure.[/size8fab9416d5]
So stop crying, and be glad freepay is reorganizing and trying to continue to give out FREE stuff.[/quote8fab9416d5]
YOUR SIGNATURE IS FUNNY, YOU'RE ON FREEPAY NUTS AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL THAT WEBSITE A SCAM.
CollidgeGraduit
03-03-2006 03:36:16
Just a reminder that flaming won't be tolerated. Thanks.
hrdfarkr
03-03-2006 06:42:33
Perhaps I'm wrong, but the issue with Freepay has nothing to do with us finishing sites.
Without us, I'd say 50% (but this is my fake made up statistic) of their advertising comes from us. Not to mention that their gallery of success stories are filled with mostly forum members from here, A4F and Congablast. So even the advertising on their own site is assisted by us.
It's not sending out rewards thats killing their income, we get prizes and each one of us helps them get more signups through our advertisement of receiving our items. What kills their income is the rapidly dwindling number of people who are willing or able to sign up for their sites. iPods.freepay has been around long enough now that it has no real huge new signups. The 90 day policy is to kill people who have already signed up so they can guarantee those old accounts will never cost them money. They have been paid for that referral, if it can never come back to haunt them, then new referrals are cash in hand. Every 90 days they will be able to hack a huge amount of people out of their pool of possible payouts.
Basically if there was a meeting at Freepay, it wasn't "Closing Freepay" it was "Maximizing income on slower sites, and reducing overhead on newer sites".
I disagree with the people who are saying protests and protest websites don't help. If you just bend over and accept it, no one else will realize (outside our little realm) that this is a bad thing. Freepay and the public needs to see and hear the complaints or nothing will change. If you just accept things which are wrong they won't change on their own. However if you formulate an adult response free from vulgarity and insults, and stick to the point your voice should be heard.
If you flame or insult Jake then you are an asshat, this poor guy has sat here taking the brunt of a decision made by his employer, the next time Best Buy changes a policy will you go scream at the poor guy at the counter? Jake comes here to help answer issues we have, and to support his company, attacking him hurts all of us.
St00pid
03-03-2006 06:57:00
Instead of going on with this 90 day policy, they could just re-open all FreePay websites to previous customers.
You can receive another gift from the same website, as long as you do a NEW offer and get referrals to do NEW offers too.
Kinda like OfferCentric, I think.
johnjimjones
03-03-2006 07:12:11
[quote45d5f8cb21="okdude"][quote45d5f8cb21="johnjimjones"][quote45d5f8cb21="midnightgt"]Which would also be a boycott by a crowd that draws in a large group of more people, who mostly dont complete. And if those people are not joining, niether are thier referalls...They would lose a chain of people.
Do what you want tho, support freepay. Trainn will get most my time. In fact, I am going to finish ipodsfreepay, and probally sell the iPod. Ill have money for myself, and money to buy trainn referalls...even if it takes me 91 days.[/quote45d5f8cb21]
Who cares? You've been here a little over a month and you're boycotting?
roll[/quote45d5f8cb21]
are the freepay dudes(owners of freepay) giving you head ???[/quote45d5f8cb21]
lol get a life?
midnightgt
03-03-2006 10:11:55
funny I tought the same thing...i need alife with 40-50 posts, u got almost 3k...reconsider.
I will have a better and more detailed explanation for all of you guys fairly soon.
mpbollywoodking
03-03-2006 10:19:52
thanks
egyptianruin
03-03-2006 11:08:32
Gracias Jake
mpbollywoodking
03-03-2006 12:09:27
all the answers to the questions u may have is in the Help link in your accounts
One thing that i hate is that u have send out a form. And you have to send in a form and get approved by the deadline, or ur account is closed. (
Sending forms takes too long. Maybe i should just go the Freepay headquarters, since i do live near DC, like a 20 min. drive, is that possible???
If you need some more IT guys, contact me, maybe u can get me a job. College Graduate IT Speicalist here )
tramahound
03-03-2006 12:20:13
i would love it if they could somehow pause your countdown once they receive your form and check your account out. the way I see it most of your time is spent at their mercy and not getting the referrals...oh well (
okdude
03-03-2006 12:37:10
I think they are going to come up with ideas like
"we are going to place a banner on myspace.com" the ref link will be random.
click here to submit your ref link in order to appear on myspace.com
and millions of freebies submit their ref links and nothing happens.
hudgie
03-03-2006 13:10:57
I happen to agree with most of the new policy, except
90 days shouldn't be an absolute number. Seriously, an iPod shuffle and a laptop have major differences in difficulty. Maybe something like 75 days for 3 refs, going up to 180 for 20 refs?
Also, what happens when one of your people goes grey? Maybe once you go in for approval all greens are safe, and if one goes grey, you're given a short time (10 days?) extension?
And the last thing unlike the time limit which makes perfect sense, the mail-in thing stinks. I've gotten three iPods (premium regular and nano) from FreePay, so I have no reason not to trust them. However, the whole having to go physical mail, with the chances of things being lost with no record (not just in the mail, even afterward) is not cool.
As far as efficiency goes, it doesn't seem to make sense, although it's possible that there's something I don't know. Maybe it's for some sort of security/verification? It would be better to have the online approval, and then a secondary verification (maybe a fax, something that's closer to the speed of an internet company).
That's all
Well Jake has done alot for us, so lets respect him, If we have a problem we dont flame. I think Jake sees our outcry and will make changes, if not they have to do what they have to do.
tramahound
03-03-2006 13:17:12
they're hoping you get additional referrals to sign up. it seems more like a way of increasing referral counts without making it as obvious as going from 8-10 greens on 360s or something.
I agree about usps being a giant leap backward too. can't freepay get an eFax account at least?!
chazmann
03-03-2006 13:20:33
[quotebff2b01010="Jake"][quotebff2b01010="chazmann"]
EXACTLY. He's running away from this question. I was in the waiting process and it was taking MUCH longer than expected...and know I know why. They were waiting for march 1st.
[/quotebff2b01010]
Once again, you are making assumptions based on no evidence and claiming it as being the truth.
[quotebff2b01010="chazmann"]
I dont see how we have to snail mail this shit now, when we were in the approval process ALREADY.
Why dont you talk to your superiors about THAT jake.[/quotebff2b01010]
I am waiting for an answer. You didn't see me answer this before?[/quotebff2b01010]
We're still waiting jake roll
jeff7602
03-03-2006 13:22:20
[quotef925a8ed26="JuG"]Well Jake has done alot for us, so lets respect him, If we have a problem we dont flame. I think Jake sees our outcry and will make changes, if not they have to do what they have to do.[/quotef925a8ed26]
I don't think convincing Jake would change anything. You are right Jake has done a lot for us and is amazing, but he has a boss just like most of us. Convincing one person (not that we should try to "convince" Jake...he knows more about the situation than we do) in a corporation won't change a thing. I'm sure freepay put a lot of thought into this decision and I don't think a couple hundred people whinning about it is going to change anything. I do feel people have the right to share their opinions on this, but don't expect freepay to say "oh I guess your right, we'll change it back"
moosehcky
03-03-2006 13:24:56
Jake, you seem like a very smart guy. Can you write my managerial accounting test for me?
In all seriousness...
I dont see jake or any other freepay team member holding a gun to peoples heads forcing them to use there service. If you dont like there company then dont sign up. For example....I was at the store today and saw dog biscuits. Now i dont have a dog so i didnt buy the biscuits...I know what you're all thinking....how dare a store sell dog biscuits as i have no use for them and believe you me, i felt the same way at first but then realized....Why dont I just not buy the dog biscuits and go on my merry way...well thats what i did.
UniPrize Media
03-03-2006 13:24:59
Wooooow, so much negativity. I only read about the first 4 pages so correct me if I am wrong...
This is kind of a bad new for those of you who started multiple of freepay's sites to actually finish them. For me I just do them to get refs on other sites, bec I know freepay refs are hard to come by. But come on guys, dont most of us finish a site in like 30 days? That is not that hard with forums like this. So I think this is a great policy bec freepay has policy where they cant delete your account if you accidently signed up for it without an upline (have like 4 of them), so with this policy they will get automatically deleted. So after 90 days you get to do the sites again so you can get your refs on other sites.
This Policy doesnt make freepay any less legit. I saw A4f move them to Grade C, which is not really necessary. They are just saying if you serious about finishing our site do it in 90 days, also hoping they make money off of the people that didnt finish in 90 days. It seems like they are loosing a lot of money and they are experimenting if this can get them back on their feet.
Also LEAVE Jake alone. He didnt do anything to you.
I dont think members of this forum and the other similar forum are the only ones that do freepay sites. So we are only a fraction of the freepay empire. I dont think we can persuade freepay to go with what we only like.
tramahound
03-03-2006 13:35:41
[quote18208c0a6d="moosehcky"]For example....I was at the store today and saw dog biscuits... [/quote18208c0a6d]
I think most people see this as a different situation; like if you went to the store and saw cookies bought them and started eating them only to have somebody peel away the label where they turn out to be dog biscuits. most people here signed up for an offer with certain terms which have been significantly changed. i'm of the mindset that i have to follow their rules regardless, but I think a lot of people for good reason don't appreciate the sudden change of rules.
okdude
03-03-2006 17:46:54
they are the first to tell us about "respect the TOS" and now they change/violate it.
These crappy TOS should apply for new users ONLY, because they are going to read the TOS, they agree, they sign up, they do not agree they dont.
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doylnea
03-03-2006 18:04:52
[quote82cb4ff13b="okdude"]they are the first to tell us about "respect the TOS" and now they change/violate it.
These crappy TOS should apply for new users ONLY, because they are going to read the TOS, they agree, they sign up, they do not agree they dont.
[/size82cb4ff13b][/quote82cb4ff13b]
Here, read.
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=344258#344258
Then stop complaining. You agreed to their terms and conditions.
fgr_admin
03-03-2006 18:10:47
[quote42caf57633="okdude"][quote42caf57633="fgr_admin"][quote42caf57633="midnightgt"]I disagree with all the people saying arguing against this and boycotting freepay will get us no where. Im officially a boycotter (see sig), but I also did not go so far as to make a website.
Basicly the only way freepay will even reconsider this move is if they see what a negative impact it has, and how it's users feel about it. Pawns or not, we may not be paying them, but we are the cause of thier pay.[/quote42caf57633]
ok let me just say this so you can stop with the boycott idea.
Freepay did not add the 90 day policy because they were bored. Or having a bad hair day, or trying to run you off.
Freepay made these changes because they were losing money. I would bet money that when they sat down and decided on this option "CLOSING FREEPAY" was discussed.
As freepay became more and more popular more and more people started finishing the site. Freepay ONLY makes money off people who don't finish the site. They need @10 people to not finish for every person who does.
So as that number dropped freepay started making less and less.
Now they are at the point where it was close shop or change how they operate.
I prefer this over closing.
So if you boycott and for some miracle win, you wont like the outcome. It won't be going back to the old way it will be closure.[/size42caf57633]
So stop crying, and be glad freepay is reorganizing and trying to continue to give out FREE stuff.[/quote42caf57633]
YOUR SIGNATURE IS FUNNY, YOU'RE ON FREEPAY NUTS AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL THAT WEBSITE A SCAM.[/quote42caf57633]
Ok since no flaming is allowed I wont call you a total idiot just misinformed.
So lets compare the 2
freepay / Halcyon
Freepay has shipped out $14,000,000 worth of gifts
Halcyon has shipped out $1,400 worth of gifts
Freepay has been in business for over 4 years
Halcyon has been in business for over 4 months
Freepay changed the way they do business by adding a 90 day time limit after operating for 4 years.
Halcyon raised prize requirements and lowered payouts after 4 months.
Now I know from those stats everyone will wonder why i could be praising Freepay yet lashing out at such a core standard site like Halcyon.
Maybe I'm just crazy but I'm going to stick by Freepay.
okdude
03-03-2006 19:26:31
[quotee9dd6b8cdb="okdude"]1. no instant greens
2. the new 90 days policy.
3. I can't login.
BULLSHIT.
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and they are a proud of this
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[size=18e9dd6b8cdb]cnn eh!?!?!? lets e-mail cnn,fox,citi,blockbuster etc...
a scammy company is using their image to promote themselve, nice eh??[/sizee9dd6b8cdb][/quotee9dd6b8cdb]
Wolfeman
03-03-2006 19:30:03
Don't quote yourself because we don't need to see your stupid post twice and I laugh at your "boycott". Its pure comedy...
Iloveipods2
03-03-2006 19:48:55
we don't really need to boycott, most people are naturally not going to signup for freepay because of the new 90 day limit.
Wolfeman
03-03-2006 19:50:27
WE ARE THE REASON THEY ARE DOING THIS! They are happy people are boycotting from here...
jfaninord
03-03-2006 20:42:59
[quote5f6497b9fd="fgr_admin"][quote5f6497b9fd="midnightgt"]I disagree with all the people saying arguing against this and boycotting freepay will get us no where. Im officially a boycotter (see sig), but I also did not go so far as to make a website.
Basicly the only way freepay will even reconsider this move is if they see what a negative impact it has, and how it's users feel about it. Pawns or not, we may not be paying them, but we are the cause of thier pay.[/quote5f6497b9fd]
ok let me just say this so you can stop with the boycott idea.
Freepay did not add the 90 day policy because they were bored. Or having a bad hair day, or trying to run you off.
Freepay made these changes because they were losing money. I would bet money that when they sat down and decided on this option "CLOSING FREEPAY" was discussed.
As freepay became more and more popular more and more people started finishing the site. Freepay ONLY makes money off people who dont finish the site. They need @10 people to not finish for evey person who does.
So as that number dropped freepay started making less and less.
Now they are at the point where it was close shop or change how they operate.
I prefer this over closing.
So if you boycott and for some miracle win, you wont like the outcome. It won't be going back to the old way it will be closure.[/size5f6497b9fd]
So stop crying, and be glad freepay is reorganizing and trying to continue to give out FREE stuff.[/quote5f6497b9fd]
I don't think this is very logical.
They make money off of people who sign up but don't complete the site, or who get disqualified.
It is not like everyone who signs up can complete the site (at least not without a lot, A LOT, of cheating going on).
If someone signs up on their own, not using a ref link, then it takes 6 offers to get an ipod. If they were someone's ref, then it's 5. 5 people per ipod is the absolute worst scenario for Freepay. And that doesn't happen when more and more people try to complete the site. That happens when more and more people sign up only to help a friend and [i5f6497b9fd]don't[/i5f6497b9fd] try to complete the site. Ironically, the new policy may very well encourage that attitude. I know that I personally will sign up on the rest of the Freepay sites I am still open for in trades to help people on here get their free stuff. But I won't be giving my referral link or trading for any of their sites after I finish the one I'm working on.
I would have rather seen them make everything require 1 more ref if they are losing money with how the sites are currently set up.
Edgeofnowhere
04-03-2006 06:09:20
I've got a question.
I'm doing laptops.freepay, and I'm almost done. But where will I get the W-9 that I'm supposed to send in along with the approval letter? Will a link with the W-9 appear on my status page or something?
Apologies if this was already answered.
DrkWarlock
04-03-2006 08:40:49
Im sorry if this has been answered before but with so many posts to look through, it would take forever to find out.
Anyways, if I were to finish getting my refs by the end of next week for ipods.freepay, how long is this whole new policy going to take until I finally have the iPod in my hands? Ive been going through this arduous process of finding five refs for months now cant stand having to wait another moenth or two if that is what it is going to take.
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
-Drk
VrExe
04-03-2006 09:38:51
I just realized something.
For the forms, I think US people are the lucky while as the country gets further away from US gets screwed. For example, Canada, we have to pay extra $ to send it to US. People in Britain will have to pay much more to air mail. Then there are those in Germany.
I really don't understand the need for the mail-in approval forms. I totally understand and accept the required timeline. But seriously the forms need to go. I mean the only thing the form had was a bunch of questionairre which could easily be integrated in online approval form.
EatChex89
04-03-2006 09:42:25
you are pathetic OKDude.
fgr_admin
04-03-2006 09:52:52
[quote7155dd8a72="Edgeofnowhere"]I've got a question.
I'm doing laptops.freepay, and I'm almost done. But where will I get the W-9 that I'm supposed to send in along with the approval letter? Will a link with the W-9 appear on my status page or something?
Apologies if this was already answered.[/quote7155dd8a72]
NO w9 is linked to the voucher. I asked Jake about it and have yet to hear back. I printed one up from http//www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw9.pdf
and sent it in anyways. Will see if they ask for another one later.
ronmm
04-03-2006 13:39:18
I really don't see this as a huge problem. Yeah it sucks and makes it a bit more difficult to finish the sites but it's still possible and still free gifts. It would make more sense if was more toward inactive accounts but we don't make the decisions. If changes have to be made to stay profitable then they have to be made.
DIY sites change the requirements all the time which sucks but they have to do what needs to be done to still profit. Look at Nuitech, they raised their requirements drastically. It cost more for your gift now but when you can get a laptop or $500/$1000 GC for $100 you can't really complain. Where else can you get a deal like that, certainly not the stores. IRC had an ibook for like 6 offers which alot of people missed out on, it's now 15 offers but people still complete it because it's still a good deal.
All industries have to make changes, sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad.
I quit my job over 7 years ago and have serveral internet related businesses which have changed many time due to advertisers, new laws, or just even surfer habits. You have to change with the times and online businesses are constantly changing.
This change will probably bring good things from freepay. Think how many inactive accounts they will be able to disable and free up the money from the books. I'm sure they have some plans or ideas in the works once this happens. If you have ever dealt with accounting you would understand better. Nobody wants money on the books from years ago, it just isn't good for a business.
Supacold
04-03-2006 15:40:02
Question for the form
Is it possible that i fill in the information with photoshop or word and then print it out and sign it? The reason i am asking is because i have poor penmanship and i do not want to risk being rejected for that.
woohooafreeipod
04-03-2006 17:37:01
[quote95dad231f4="Supacold"]Question for the form
Is it possible that i fill in the information with photoshop or word and then print it out and sign it? The reason i am asking is because i have poor penmanship and i do not want to risk being rejected for that.[/quote95dad231f4]
Get someone else to fill it out for you. ?
drunkmonkey
04-03-2006 17:43:09
[quote0766e20d3a="Supacold"]Question for the form
Is it possible that i fill in the information with photoshop or word and then print it out and sign it? The reason i am asking is because i have poor penmanship and i do not want to risk being rejected for that.[/quote0766e20d3a]
If you can't fill out your name and address on a form without help, you're going to run into larger problems in life than getting an iPod. roll
egyptianruin
04-03-2006 17:56:34
[quoteed50a1247b="drunkmonkey"][quoteed50a1247b="Supacold"]Question for the form
Is it possible that i fill in the information with photoshop or word and then print it out and sign it? The reason i am asking is because i have poor penmanship and i do not want to risk being rejected for that.[/quoteed50a1247b]
If you can't fill out your name and address on a form without help, you're going to run into larger problems in life than getting an iPod. roll[/quoteed50a1247b]
LOL that was funny, but if you need to fill out a PDF why don't you purchase PDFill. It's useful for more than just this. I like to fill out every PDF I have with my PC.
Supacold
04-03-2006 18:57:14
[quote1a0070fea9="drunkmonkey"][quote1a0070fea9="Supacold"]Question for the form
Is it possible that i fill in the information with photoshop or word and then print it out and sign it? The reason i am asking is because i have poor penmanship and i do not want to risk being rejected for that.[/quote1a0070fea9]
If you can't fill out your name and address on a form without help, you're going to run into larger problems in life than getting an iPod. roll[/quote1a0070fea9]
i've always had poor penmanship ( it looks like a child's handwriting lol..
well.. i'm sending in the form on moneyday D hope everything goes smoothly.
And its not an ipod, its a 20" lcd tv P
deviation
04-03-2006 19:58:00
oh man..i don't like this 90 day crap. I'm just glad i got my 60 gig video ipod from them. I'll love these guys nevertheless but probably won't try to do any more sites if the 90 day thing stayed. My turn around time was about 45 days (from making and account to having the ipod in my hand) but still i wouldn't want to risk it.
why dont we all just give freepay a break and let them make some money, then after they start seeing more money from the 90 day idea we do freepay again, also there are alot of other sites out there.
Fugger
05-03-2006 00:19:39
[quote2c03f39427="Wolfeman"]WE ARE THE REASON THEY ARE DOING THIS! They are happy people are boycotting from here...[/quote2c03f39427]
Tru dat.
Want to piss freepay off? Complete sites as quickly as you possibly can and get as many gifts as you possibly can.
mpbollywoodking
05-03-2006 06:15:41
i dont' get this part
" Upon completion of all offer requirements, existing users will have the ability to download and print an “Approval Form” that must be filled out in its entirety and mailed with a postmarked date [b158ca1faa4]no later than 30 days of completing their offer requirements."[/b158ca1faa4]
does this mean that i have 30 days after the 90 day deadline to send in the form? What if i don't get approved? i'm sorry if this has been answered before
Iloveipods2
05-03-2006 09:14:40
[quote39f1e5cc3c="JuG"]why dont we all just give freepay a break and let them make some money, then after they start seeing more money from the 90 day idea we do freepay again, also there are alot of other sites out there.[/quote39f1e5cc3c]
seeing more money? you know how much their revenue is?!?! even if they only have 30 odd employees, why in the world should we let them make more money?!?!?! for them, the 90 day limit is not about the money.
though they truly are being selfish with this 90 day limit.
Jake, if theres anything you can do to either a) extned the 90 day limit to atleast 200 or a year or b)do what OC did and have OOD rather than a limit. you'd have Fipg worshiping you. bow , plus we'd all send freepay headquarters a letter a day telling them to make you CEO. wink
Berky34
05-03-2006 10:06:24
Well it sucks because I have an account on all the freepay sites that I 've traded for and I have 90 days to complete them all or have them be shutdown... I'm 2/8 on flatscreens and 4/5 on giftcards. I know I can finish giftcards and I'm not sure if I even want to start flatscreens because I'm afraid I might not finish... As for all the rest I have no referrals so basically I will never get anything from those freepay accounts. Unless I get refs uber-fast or something.
justinag06
05-03-2006 12:57:47
im going to focus on getting refs outside of trading, no need to mention the 90 days thing, they will learn soon enough on their own
twisted
supersponger1979
05-03-2006 17:26:44
Well, Freepy defiently killed my boner for completing all of thier sites. I too am a poor college student who rarely has funds on hand to complete offers all @ once. I agree with the inactivity idea, but sometimes it is very difficult to get legit refs in a timely manner...Just my $.02...
just a heads up, after getting a generic response the other day I got this great response. my question was, do i have to submit a form since my ipod was approved earlier and now is back in pending approval (wanted to hear it from them)
No need to worry, your account is fine because you have completed all of the full requirements already. In addition, you already placed the ipod order which is on the order process. You do not have to send the approval form or redemption form to us. Due to high demands of ipod orders, it will take at least 2 weeks to ship the ipod to you. Please be patient. We are sincerely sorry for the delay.
chazmann
06-03-2006 20:30:55
Well, that's been assumed...and logistically thinking, if you already placed an order....you're fine.
Who they really hurt where the newcomers and the ones who were IN the approval process.
Drummer16161616
07-03-2006 00:07:25
[quote78dca125fc="Iloveipods2"][quote78dca125fc="JuG"]why dont we all just give freepay a break and let them make some money, then after they start seeing more money from the 90 day idea we do freepay again, also there are alot of other sites out there.[/quote78dca125fc]
seeing more money? you know how much their revenue is?!?! even if they only have 30 odd employees, why in the world should we let them make more money?!?!?! for them, the 90 day limit is not about the money.
though they truly are being selfish with this 90 day limit.
Jake, if theres anything you can do to either a) extned the 90 day limit to atleast 200 or a year or b)do what OC did and have OOD rather than a limit. you'd have Fipg worshiping you. bow , plus we'd all send freepay headquarters a letter a day telling them to make you CEO. wink[/quote78dca125fc]
WTF speak for yourself when you're talking about OOD's. I'd rather have a time limit to complete a site than something that would make it impossible.
akalic
07-03-2006 00:15:28
[quote347bc75475="Iloveipods2"][quote347bc75475="JuG"]why dont we all just give freepay a break and let them make some money, then after they start seeing more money from the 90 day idea we do freepay again, also there are alot of other sites out there.[/quote347bc75475]
seeing more money? you know how much their revenue is?!?! even if they only have 30 odd employees, why in the world should we let them make more money?!?!?! for them, the 90 day limit is not about the money.
[b347bc75475]though they truly are being selfish with this 90 day limit.[/b347bc75475]
Jake, if theres anything you can do to either a) extned the 90 day limit to atleast 200 or a year or b)do what OC did and have OOD rather than a limit. you'd have Fipg worshiping you. bow , plus we'd all send freepay headquarters a letter a day telling them to make you CEO. wink[/quote347bc75475]
thats so naive of you to say that; i believe this was more mandatory than voluntary..
Wolfeman
07-03-2006 00:27:49
Their Income is huge but they send out a shit load of gifts. Don't anyone talk about the company like you know anything about their financials. I'm sick of this attitude like Freepay owes you this great debt of gratitude. No one has any right to complain. Whats done is done and you all need to grow up and move on...
justinag06
07-03-2006 01:06:06
i was glancing at a4f earlier they were all doging us saying we are all way too supportive of freepay while they are exposing the truth, and some blabble about high TR members being put on hold.
anyhow maybe we are covering up for freepay, but id rather be doing it for them, then OC, or gusto or items4free, or whatever little pedunk site they are always supporting till the bitter end
Wolfeman
07-03-2006 01:09:16
I'm not happy with the new policy at all but if they did it, its gotta be for the good of thier company. There isn't a damn thing we can do and it was most likely FiPG and A4F with all the trades that caused them to have to change the policy in the first place. I'm sure they don't give a crap if we all bitch on a forum and then half of us end up doing sites anyways...
[quote1944db3aa3="chazmann"]Well, that's been assumed...and logistically thinking, if you already placed an order....you're fine.
Who they really hurt where the newcomers and the ones who were IN the approval process.[/quote1944db3aa3]
true chaz, but until you hear it from the people themselves it is hearsay. dont assume or you'll make an...
[quote7072372a25="justinag06"]i was glancing at a4f earlier they were all doging us saying we are all way too supportive of freepay while they are exposing the truth, and some blabble about high TR members being put on hold.
[/quote7072372a25]
This is not an attack on you in any way shape or form.
A4F claims to know the 'truth.'
All their 'truth' is is some conspiracy theories.
I have given you as much information as I can about this matter on this board.
Tholek
07-03-2006 19:52:32
[quote5fec5d4f9e="Jake"]I have given you as much information as I can about this matter on this board.[/quote5fec5d4f9e]
I hope the [i5fec5d4f9e]other[/i5fec5d4f9e] policy-related information is forthcoming, though. )
Thormix04
07-03-2006 20:33:32
[quote57912b82a5="Jake"][quote57912b82a5="justinag06"]i was glancing at a4f earlier they were all doging us saying we are all way too supportive of freepay while they are exposing the truth, and some blabble about high TR members being put on hold.
[/quote57912b82a5]
This is not an attack on you in any way shape or form.
A4F claims to know the 'truth.'
All their 'truth' is is some conspiracy theories.
I have given you as much information as I can about this matter on this board.[/quote57912b82a5]
Jake why wasn't the information about Freepay's changes to their TOS not made avail to all Freepay members w/ active offers a reasonable time before the switch over date of March 1st, 2006?
I think that you might have quenched the majority of "Conspiracy Theories" if you had sent out an official Freepay announcement to better inform your clientele before you made major changes to their accounts. Man I get like 30days warning when my pool man has to make Ph changes. In my experience people get very upset when something as personal as one of their accounts gets changed without prior notice.
Think about it like this.
You have a Bank savings account at a well respected Bank, lets say Bank of America with $50K in it. On Jan 1st your saving account is paying 3.25% annually with no minimum requirements. March 1st rolls around and your bank sends you a letter saying that they are reducing your interest rate effective immediately to 1.63% and are requiring that you now have a min of $75K in your account to get this new rate. Oh yeah and if you don’t come up with the extra $25K in 90 days from this notice we will have to put on hold (seize) you entire accounts funds permanently.
Now this scenario is totally made up, in the real world you would have the choice to move your money to a new Bank and might even get a better deal on your dollar. Unfortunately with our Freepay accounts it is like having a "cash note" that can only be redeemed at the Bank of Freepay. So I guess I have answered my own question, now that I think about it. Freepay didn’t inform us members about their changes because they didn’t have to! There was no competition for our already locked in accounts. What was the worst thing we could do? Leave. What would we do with the information 30 days before the March 1st 2006 release date?
Information is power and to deny or not disclose major changes to your member’s current account amounts (some with a great deal of equity) in due time before you implement them is a shady business practice and breeds “Conspiracy Theories” by the members who feel wronged and contempt for the Management team that springs the bad news without warning or debate. It’s like when a company knows all week that they are going to fire a given individual, but because they don’t want a confrontation they wait until Friday at 459PM to break the news. Or in the case of this Freepay and their new TOS they don’t tell him at all, let him/her go home thinking that they will return to work on Monday. Then Freepay’s accounting department sends a Personal Message to him over the weekend letting him/her know that he is fired with no official reason. If you were the employee who was just let go with no explanation imagine how many different scenarios you could come up with as to why you were fired?
Let me just close by saying I don’t believe that having prior notice would have changed things much for Freepay reputation or the backlash that many users are exerting on them in general. On the other hand, you would be surprised what people will put up with if they know ahead of time and don’t feel like they were “sucker punched” with the info. An extra 15 or even 30 days notice for current members who are actively working on getting Freepay referrals could have meant the world to them and maybe more referrals and more revenue for Freepay.
What do you think?
Edit - Some spelling mistakes.
Fugger
07-03-2006 20:45:24
[quoteaa2d7d8b68="Jake"]This is not an attack on you in any way shape or form.
A4F claims to know the 'truth.'
All their 'truth' is is some conspiracy theories.
I have given you as much information as I can about this matter on this board.[/quoteaa2d7d8b68]
And we are trying to keep things on the up-and-up... so... I get a free remote, right?
johnjimjones
07-03-2006 20:52:52
[quotea2440436e3="Fugger"][quotea2440436e3="Jake"]This is not an attack on you in any way shape or form.
A4F claims to know the 'truth.'
All their 'truth' is is some conspiracy theories.
I have given you as much information as I can about this matter on this board.[/quotea2440436e3]
And we are trying to keep things on the up-and-up... so... I get a free remote, right?[/quotea2440436e3]
A4F just wants some attention from Jake since he responds here a lot more than he does there.
amir89630
08-03-2006 15:50:12
Freepay is a...................bitch.
ibtheib
08-03-2006 15:58:25
JAKE DO YOU PLAN TO PREORDER PS3'S??
thenameisjoe
08-03-2006 18:34:16
[quoteaa7fd7d1a5="johnjimjones"][quoteaa7fd7d1a5="Fugger"][quoteaa7fd7d1a5="Jake"]This is not an attack on you in any way shape or form.
A4F claims to know the 'truth.'
All their 'truth' is is some conspiracy theories.
I have given you as much information as I can about this matter on this board.[/quoteaa7fd7d1a5]
And we are trying to keep things on the up-and-up... so... I get a free remote, right?[/quoteaa7fd7d1a5]
A4F just wants some attention from Jake since he responds here a lot more than he does there.[/quoteaa7fd7d1a5]
actually im the one that started that thread over there at A4F and it has nothing to do with the board in general. It was just my observation after reading this board over a number of months. I dont think anything over there is being promoted as fact but mere speculation over a policy that caught everyone off guard.
Not to mention, Jake's vague responses havent really warranted much attention(No offence). I think most users over there look on these forums also anyway. My whole thing was that I tend to like mods that do not force their own opinions/agendas on others but you can just check the "bias" thread for that subject.
justinag06
08-03-2006 19:01:56
[quotee5c1392455="Jake"]
This is not an attack on you in any way shape or form.
A4F claims to know the 'truth.'
All their 'truth' is is some conspiracy theories.
I have given you as much information as I can about this matter on this board.[/quotee5c1392455]
dont worry im not an active A4F member in any way
I have been reading and posting over there in the freepay section the past few days.
I think they are still kinda shellshocked, they have tons of conspiricy theories going on, and apparently everyone jumped on the bandwagon.. I grew bored and frustrated trying to talk any sense to them, they can think whatever they wanna think.
meanwhile i'll be completing my fond farewell to freepay
P
untill you make a nintendo revolution site
D
kratos
08-03-2006 19:40:26
omg i just payed over 75 for refs and i need 2 more!!!!
i dont get this, lets see if i have this rite
we have 90 days to complete finish the offers.
we print out a form and mail it before the end of 30 days.
if one is rejected were screwed
if i pass up the deadline i lose all my work and money
did i get that rite?
justinag06
08-03-2006 20:09:52
90 days to complete requirements
ie. complete an offer, refer 5 friends who do so
then you have 30 days to mail the form
this allows for them to make sure all offers that credited are paid to them also.
the form is simply an annoying formality maybe something to combat fraud.
if you dont finish before 90 days or mail the form after 30 then yes you lose all work
the thing that also seems to have come with this, is that now things that used to be quick will now take longer. manual credit a month per cs? that is crazy
BVGuitarPlayer
02-04-2006 17:43:40
Hey guys, its definitely harder when you have a 90 day limit, but its just my opinion that most people lose interest or get discouraged after 2 months of not finding 5+ people. FreePay has employees that need to pay their bills too...
[quote33bc3b1eb8="BVGuitarPlayer"]Hey guys, its definitely harder when you have a 90 day limit, but its just my opinion that most people lose interest or get discouraged after 2 months of not finding 5+ people. FreePay has employees that need to pay their bills too...[/quote33bc3b1eb8]
Way to resurrect a month old thread.
The_Huffster
03-04-2006 12:37:46
They don't have to GIVE us anything so you all should just stop your complaining, if you dont like it you can leave. I have, and always will love Freepay D
tramahound
03-04-2006 12:50:23
I got 14 of the 10 referrals I was required to get for a mac mini so technically they do have to give me the mini otherwise it's just a scam. and don't worry, once this offer is done I'm done with freepay that's not in question at all.
The_Huffster
07-04-2006 12:39:12
[quotedf11d020de="tramahound"]I got 14 of the 10 referrals I was required to get for a mac mini so technically they do have to give me the mini otherwise it's just a scam. and don't worry, once this offer is done I'm done with freepay that's not in question at all.[/quotedf11d020de]
I could create 14 different accounts and do the offers on my own so technically they have to give it to me too now don't they?
tramahound
07-04-2006 12:52:09
no, that'd be against the TOS. I know for a fact two of my current yellows should have been green 3 weeks ago. they're not doing something over there and as a result the users are suffering and feeling scammed. i just want to be done with them already.