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Jake

This was what was given to me for you guys to read as an explanation for the change.

I will continue to press for specific answers to the questions that were posted in the past but this is all that I have at the moment.

90 Day Policy Explanation

As you may have heard, anyone using a Gratis Internet site now needs to complete their offer — i.e., complete one offer themselves and have all their referrals’ offers completed — within 90 days of opening their account.

Here’s the background:

We instituted the 90-day change so that our operations would work in tandem with the way people actually use our sites. The bottom line is: You move fast and we want to do the same.

We did a survey and found that 93 percent of our users complete their offers within 90 days of opening their account — and a sizable majority of those users (about two-thirds) actually complete their offers within six weeks or less.

It seems that if you’re using a Gratis site to score a free iPod, or flatscreen or PlayStation 3 or whatever — there are 15 offers in all, check out freepay.com to see them all — you want to get the whole thing wrapped up pretty quickly — and that’s fine with us.

Another reason we’ve made the 90-day change is that, without having an ‘end date’ for accounts it was impossible for us to figure out where we were financially or to make accurate plans about ordering new goods to ship to our users. Sure, only about seven percent of our users had these never-ending (but never completed) accounts, but how many were going to finish the process and get their free item? None?, 10 percent?, 50 percent? More? Less? You get the picture… Too many loose ends — and none of them actually doing anyone any good. So we made the switch to a 90-day structure.

However, we wanted to make the change in a totally fair and aboveboard way. Rather than instituting some kind of retroactive approach — i.e., “Hey there, wanted to let you know your account has been cancelled!” — we decided to set the clock evenly for everyone.

As of March 1, 2006, and going forward, all accounts need to be completed within 90 days of being opened. If you have an older account, whether it was started a couple of months ago or several years ago, you have until June 1, 2006 (i.e., 90 days on from March 1) to complete your account. So far, no one seems to mind, as (like we said) the vast majority of our users complete their offers within 60 or so days, sometimes less. If you’re one of the few people who is disappointed by the change, then we’re sorry, but we hope you now see why the change needed to happen.

OK, thanks, talk to you later. Spread the word: Free stuff at freepay.com if you’re willing to do an online offer and refer friends who do the same.

fiz · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject:

Thanks Jake! Your response is appreciated and makes financial business sense.

Psyc · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject:

Jake, tell everyone I'm sorry! I didn't mean to take over a year (or two, I think) to finish the site. Sad

I still want my iPod and PSP, though. Confused

petezahut2 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject:

The only big question I have is...

If I got 8 greens for ps3s.freepay.com just before the 90 day mark and I send the form in, but one of them is rejected. Will you be given time to get another referral, or is FreePay sticking with the whole thing where they say that it is better for you to get a couple extra referrals because 1 or 2 are usually rejected.

egyptianruin · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject:

bruman · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject:

i still think its unfair for laptops

aguy · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject:

ok this explains not much...

so what happens when our 90 days are up... can we make another account?

egyptianruin · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject:

drunkmonkey · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject:

This was just a general statement put out by Freepay...it wasn't meant to address any of the questions Jake took. It sounds like he's still trying to get answers (which isn't a good sign).

darkscout · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject:

justinag06 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject:

sounds more like his superiers are avoiding answering these questions, because they haven't figured it all out yet.

we can only assume the worst. ie. refs rejected = you lose out, and I don't think they will allow us to try again on sites we don't finish

petezahut2 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject:

drunkmonkey · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject:

drunkmonkey · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject:

CollidgeGraduit · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject:

drunkmonkey · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject:

Berky34 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

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egyptianruin · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject:

mpbollywoodking · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject:

if u don't get aproved or finished by the deadline, you can't make another account. It's over, your account is cancelled

midnightgt · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject:

Kinda what I expected for our questions:
No answers.

Im pretty sure none of our questions were why did u do this and give us some statistics...

Here's a recap for Jake:
Rejection?
End of 90 days?
New account?
Laptops - Honestly wtf...?
...and more

Tholek

jy3 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject:

plus if the original account is cancelled then creating a new account will not violate the TOS because then you will only have one.
my biggest concern is that if they are going to hold to this 90 day limit than the manual credit needs to be faster. 30 days from a week after I sent in the ticket which was 15 days after I did the site. THAT is insane.

Rodney · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject:

Freepay should fix their notification emails to reflect the new 90 day change.

I got one for freehandbags and it had this untrue line in it:

midnightgt · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject:

Lol Rodney +karma for making me laugh

justinag06 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject:

yeah I think these are all the scenarios people want laid out for them jake. if you could get us yes or no definiative answers that would be great.

scenario 1

It's been 89 days and I just got my last green, I printed off my form and it's postmarked today. Assuming all my referrals are legit, and I place my order the second you approve it, am I ok?

scenario 2

lets assume the same scenario except you reject one of my referrals. Do I get an extra week, month, etc to find another ref?

scenario 3

I only got 4 referrals on a 5 ref site, its been 91 days, but I really want to try and do it all over from the start. Can I?

Drummer16161616 · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject:

midnightgt · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject:

Freepay would also like to add that any of it's employees will now give you referalls if you trade for thier Trainn site. (disloyal? no they offer a great service!).

justinag06 · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:05 am Post subject:

look I realize you're the founder of the the boycott freepay fanclub and all, but there are some of us here trying to help out other newbies and ourselves. Lets not belittle the man who is trying to help us, and more importantly if you are boycotting freepay why are you still here?

theysayjump · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:28 am Post subject:

grm · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:12 am Post subject:

Tholek · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:13 am Post subject:

Jake · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:02 am Post subject:

bjrock11 · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:06 am Post subject:

**MOD EDIT**

Keep the questions relevant to the discussion in the thread.

Thx.

drunkmonkey · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:28 am Post subject:

midnightgt · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:32 am Post subject:

egyptianruin · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:37 am Post subject:

Jake, I understand you have to do what you are told - as I work in retail and many times I am prompted to "lie" to people. However that does not instill trust in your company, and puts to question all the things that have been said about FreePay - ie the 360 situation, iPods, the new 90 day policy and even if your company is going bankrupt. We all trusted you to be honest and fair with us. I am saddened by the fact that you were told to lie. I would have rather had no answers at all than have a representative of a company be dishonest with me.

kposse77 · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:40 am Post subject:

Jake · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:41 am Post subject:

Jake · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: