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manOFice · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: Min TR needed?

All in favor? Minimum TR of say 3 or even 4 TR before you can do a cash for ref trade?

Fenominal Freebies · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject:

I say 10

pqdrummer · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:

I would be in favor except that I was on A4F long before I can here. By the time I found the place, I had greened all of the sites that I reasonably could. So I say if you're going to do that, have other forum's TR count.

J4320 · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject:

Don't you think this'll just drive noobs to other forums? By the way, +5 karma for making use of this sub-forum. Laughing

I wasn't expecting anyone to post an actual thread in here but now that I think about it, I don't see anything wrong with it. Razz

TravMan162 · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject:

J4, I have to just give you another way of looking at this. I know you're a mod and you want as much traffic here as possible, I understand how it works, but.............

You said "wouldn't this drive newbies to other forums" so I'm going to respond just to that.

The reason ManOFice says this is most likely because of one of two things: His trade thread keeps falling in the depths of the forum at an alarming rate, or newbies are stealing greens from him.

I've noticed that the problem seems to be that most newbies that come in want to immediately pay for greens and that is making the problem worse. You invoke this rule, they leave, and we are left with the newbies that want to green for everyone else. Thus the newbies that are flooding the market are gone, your veterans are happy, and your newbies are all people that want to do this the right way and will become veterans themselves, and they cycle will continue.

Right now, no one is getting anywhere.

I know it's not as easy as that, but a lot of us are thinking it, and I'll admit, it would be nice to see. The only argument someone has brought up is the fact that they are veterans from other forums, in which case, maybe if they can prove it to you, they can be exempt somehow?

I know you guys know what you're doing, and there's probably several damn good reasons you haven't done this yet, but I think it would be sweet haha Very Happy

sandra habina · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject:

C Barry Smith

I remember when I first came to this forum. I had to bust my butt to get to 4TR so people would trade with me. Now the newbs are coming in wanting to pay their way to 4TR. So lets set the bar at 10 TR before they can but their way in. That might help the economy of FIPG!
Another perspective would be! Factual......When I first came to this forum. One of the first people to bombard me with offers to do was a person called 'chasecash'. They had joined the forum on 3/5/2007, being stupid, and mu ego liking all this newfound attention, I signed up to do a site for them. ordercash. I completed the credit. Their last logon was 3/13/2007. Needless to say I was never paid my $10.00. Their inexperience in this activity created less than desirable taste in my mouth. This could have 1] turned into a report of another scammer/trader, 2] Run off another trader, etc, etc, etc.!

Again, let the newbies pay their dues! I say 10TR first.
Just a thought!
Barry

Margot530 · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:19 am Post subject:

You have all covered many valid points, so I will keep this short. 5 is doable for anyone new to this...10 may be discouraging. Importing? I'd say possibly give some credit, perhaps 2 or 3, as you have the ability to post that you have X amount of TR on another forum, and can direct anyone there to take a look for themselves. I'd have to add that if any importing were allowed that strict rules would need to be applied.

Just my 2 cents,

Margot Wink

manOFice · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:26 am Post subject:

Lots of great input, i wasn't expecting that. I don't think it will drive noobs away, instead give them an incentive to work harder.

Plus enforcing this at say a TR of 5 can help increase sites profits...It would help the industry here people.

J4320 · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject:

Laissez-faire anyone? Then again I can't say I'm surprised that the people with more TR want this.

TravMan162 · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

This thread reminded me of Kill Bill when she fought that whole room full of ninjas and killed them off one at a time.

J4 is the best Uma Thurman I've ever seen. Very Happy

I think your best point in that whole thing was to get creative. I mean, you look through the Trading Post and there is a lot of....... How do I say this........ Crap? No one post really stands out from any other for the most part, and if I was a newbie coming in, all of these would look exactly the same to me. A little creativity will probably go a long way.

I'm going to start trading again, I'm sick of just posting and getting harassed for posting, so I'll let you know how the creativity goes Very Happy

manOFice · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject:

Well J4, this forum has the worst trading success so it couldn't hurt to try something different you got pretty defensive on this issue I see...

Yeah people with more TR are agreeing here but I also see Fenominal Freebies with 0 TR agreeing with us... You'll mainly only see higher TR people giving input because we're the ones that really care unlike the 0TR folks that just come here and use the trading system and flood the cash section.

I agree, stating what TR you have on other forums in a trade topic is LAME.

And with the whole A and B scenario... screw em. Better to have quality traders than crumby traders

And I see this as encouraging ref for ref trading to help the industry but if a vet pays a newbie so be it, it was just a comment.

J4320 · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject:

I wasn't meaning to get defensive on the issue, I was just stating my 2 cents just like you were. Anyway, it's not really up to me. It's up to the higher up mods who make administrative decisions. Maybe they'll post what they think. As a trader with 49 TR, it sounds nice but I just don't think it's the right thing to do for the forum.

ForceBucks · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject:

People seem to say this a lot. "I have done EVERY SINGLE offer." It is never true. New offers come up and old ones die every single day. I added 5 new offers this week. No one has done those yet. Also, all sites use different publishers and most publishers have a few "Exclusive" offers that no one else will let you put on your freebie site. This means more offers than not even 10% of folks have completed. Just something to think about/me ranting. Sorry! Razz

Margot530 · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject:

Perhaps posting your other TR from another forum is against the rules...I have never worried about it here, as this is home to me. On FLR, it seems okay as there are many from here that do it. It may seem lame, but many get a lot of action from it.

I have heard that since Project Payday no longer sends an influx of people here, that that is one very big reason we don't get many new folks anymore. FLR has the market on that I believe... Is this true? If so, is it possible to start our own similar advertising? That's what got me here.

Margot Wink

pqdrummer · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject:

sandra habina · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject:

Good point Margot, I too joined thru Project Payday. Why do they not send refs here now? Is there a contract with them and FLR? Can FIPG use a similar advertising website or partner????

How do people find out about FIPG now? I do not even know. But curious to know if we could gather more of the flow of new traders here.
That would be great. And I still think that having new traders learn thru more experienced traders and have to wait to work a site until TR+5 IS A GOOD IDEA. Even TR 2 - I just think it is bad for people to try and do this with no experience themselves and try to work it out with other inexperienced traders. Someone should guide them!!
If they just jump into this blindly then mistakes and scams are made.

But it is common sense that a new trader come here and look around - would work with someone with TR30 before they would TR 0 but sometimes the scammers make it so appealing to others, and some people just lack common sense.

These are just my opinions.

pqdrummer · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:14 am Post subject:

Margot530 · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:29 am Post subject:

bugs53666 · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:01 am Post subject:

Go for it we need some kind of strategy. I mean you can be as creative as you can be and still be overlooked by the overflow of newbies running sites. I think 5 tr would be great also but as J4 said its up to our adm. I really liked the comment about where are all the comments from the lower tr members. How do they give back to the forum and shouldnt they have some kind of tr to be running sites. We definatley need more flow on Fipg.

manOFice · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:18 am Post subject:

11 people right now on the front page of the cash thread have a 0 tr... usually it's more

Margot530 · Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject:

I really hate to say this, but since the switch over on FLR that does not allow new traders to post, due to the spam issue, many are coming here for more action. Several of them of course have plenty of trades over there, but naturally will show as zero here. They aren't interested in the least about going green for another.

Margot Wink

sandra habina · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:06 am Post subject:

lucky777 · Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject:

well i am brand new to this forum and I am planning on trying to use it to obtain reffs...i need to play around a little more first and find my way around in here...it is much different the FLR...but i have a TR of almost 200 over there...so if this rule does come into play...then I probably woundt bother learning this forum to trade...why would I?

angylleyes · Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject:

Hiya Lucky!!! Ditto what you said!! My tr is 100 and I have tried to get started over here a few times and got nothing but scammed!!! I have done over 100 offers so there are very few that are available to me so greening for someone here would be very difficult if not impossible!!