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jonohull Freepay Fanboy

Age: 20 Gender:  Posts: 286 Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Location: Madtown, Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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OK, so I have a question then... Doesn't the person with lowest TR go first? So, I'm a newbie and I need some greens. I have to trade with someone with higher than 4 TR to get TR, which means I have to pay on green. Well, I'm new and haven't gotten the "bankroll" yet to do that... That's why I say I'll pay on approval, not pay on green. So, no one with TR > 4 will trade with me. It's a catch-22.
hmm... I think I just got a new strategy... Let's say, I only "advertise" 1 of my offers (that needs the lowest referrals...). I trade that with newbies so we're both same TR and I can pay on approval. When I get that site done, I have $$ to pay on green and people with >4 TR will trade with me (maybe)????
Any input would be appreciated!
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You could do offers for other people to both get your bankroll up and get TR, such as the offers in my sig...  |
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Lena Newbie

Posts: 0 Joined: 04 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Don't like it.. |
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If your worried about the TR, then just do your first 4 trades with Traders over TR-4. That's not too difficult, is it? If you can't find an experienced trader to do your site then do some offers for cash (with established traders of course) to get started. That's what I'm doing. I don't have a problem with it.[/quote]
See this is the problem for me, even though I have a 0 TR here, I have +18TR on A4F, and have 15 sites that I need ref's for, and can't afford to do more offers for higher TR traders here until I can get some of these sites completed, and don't tell me it is my choice if I want to trade with 4+ tr traders or not, cause that would be a lie, I tried to initiate trade with 2 users that also have 0 Tr and got this "sorry at least one user must have +4 TR to trade" |
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dmorris68 FiPG Coder
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Posts: 8215 Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Don't like it.. |
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| ...and don't tell me it is my choice if I want to trade with 4+ tr traders or not, cause that would be a lie, I tried to initiate trade with 2 users that also have 0 Tr and got this "sorry at least one user must have +4 TR to trade" |
No, it's not a lie -- those are either uninformed newbies who obviously aren't reading and understanding things, or they're just being a bit overzealous in interpreting this guideline. They might just want TR, or not want to risk trading with another newbie. Most of our newbies have no knowledge of A4F, so your TR there is not relevant to them.
Nobody has ever said you CANNOT choose to trade with other <4TR newbies. In fact you certainly can, but you both must assume all the risks and accept that you will NOT receive TR. That is why we're calling this a guideline, and not a hard & fast rule. |
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Monica2AssistU Newbie

Age: 37 Gender:  Posts: 0 Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: Tr4 and over not helping newbies |
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| Since newbies, like me, can't help other newbies, it should be suggested that anyone over Tr4 should atleast do one offer for a newbie. It is hard for newbies to get referrals for their sites and all we seem to be doing are completing offers for others that are taking forever to get Tr accumulation and payment. The companies making the offers post instant credit but the majority of them do not. And then when you submit a request for credit they give you the runaround. |
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mus351w Newbie

Age: 38 Gender:  Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Location: michigan
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, The rule is very stupid. Thats why I have no TR here. I work other forums and am running out of offers to take care of the sites I have going. Anyone that is above 4 TR is look for refs for themselves. So I'll continue to have 0TR.
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279263 Newbie

Age: 38 Gender:  Posts: 0 Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: ""GET MONEY"" |
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NEED NONE CC SIT"S LET"S GET MONEY... ""IT"S TIME |
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279263 Newbie

Age: 38 Gender:  Posts: 0 Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: ""GET MONEY"" |
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NEED NONE CC SIT"S LET"S GET MONEY... ""IT"S TIME |
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KeithA Moderator
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Age: 27 Gender:  Posts: 4196 Joined: 14 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: Re: ""GET MONEY"" |
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NEED NONE CC SIT"S LET"S GET MONEY... ""IT"S TIME |
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Please don't quote yourself to bump a thread. |
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KeithA Moderator
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Age: 27 Gender:  Posts: 4196 Joined: 14 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| Yep, The rule is very stupid. Thats why I have no TR here. I work other forums and am running out of offers to take care of the sites I have going. Anyone that is above 4 TR is look for refs for themselves. So I'll continue to have 0TR. |
It's not stupid at all. It's there to protect newbies, not penalize them. People will complain no matter what we do, but we would rather you complain about not having a point next to your name than complain about having been scammed.
Additionally, as I have explained several times in this thread, actively avoiding building TR is entirely counter-productive. Not only will you always have to go first when you trade, you will always be at a greater than average risk of being scammed.
If you're really concerned about the issue, re-read this thread in its entirely and then PM me with any questions. |
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santiago911 Banned

Posts: 0 Joined: 28 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Could you use some extra money? I know what you are thinking, this is
just going to be about some kind of scam. I felt the same way until I
actually tried Cash Crate. Don't take my word for the legitimacy of
Cash Crate, I urge you to read the public forum on the site before you
join. You will be able to read about common pitfalls, complaints, and
countless success stories. Curious? keep reading..
Here's how it works: Once you complete just one offer (50 cent -$1
surveys are the easiest to complete), your referrer gets a $1 plus 20%
of your lifetime earnings on this site, plus 10% of what your
referrals make. We'll talk about referrals later. By just completing
all the offers that are 100% free and don't require a credit card, you
can make well over $100.
For those who are interested in making some serious money, Cash Crate
also has trial offers that require a credit card and you later
canceling the trial within the trial period. Sounds a little risky,
right. Well, there is a loophole-If you use pre-paid Visa/MC/Amex
gift cards, you can beat the system. I buy these gift cards in $5
denominations, so even if the company tries to screw me and tell me I
didn't cancel the offer properly, the most they can get is $5. These
trial offers are worth $10-$30 each, so you can see how you can
quickly make some nice cash.
So now you see the next step--Do exactly what I am doing now--post
your referral link on every message board you know about. You can
even post on the same boards I do (Yahoo, Google, Msn, Aol etc.)--I
don't care--The more money you make the more I make. It only takes a
couple of active referrals to make some serious passive income.
Let's make some money together!!!
so if you woued like to join are want to know more go to my site www.tinurl.com/2n5fg7 oh yeah you can make a lot of money just by completeing offers i make$1,000 a month some times more. |
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guesswho Newbie

Age: 62 Gender:  Posts: 7 Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: Can't Trade Here |
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| So are you saying since I came here and I am new to this site but not new to this business, I can't post a trade? |
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KeithA Moderator
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Age: 27 Gender:  Posts: 4196 Joined: 14 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Can't Trade Here |
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| So are you saying since I came here and I am new to this site but not new to this business, I can't post a trade? |
No, not at all. This specific rule is in regards to new users trading with other new users.
Have another read through it and if you still have questions PM me. |
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luvrowy User

Age: 28 Gender:  Posts: 60 Joined: 15 May 2007
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| i think this rule is 50/50...its obviously set up to help...but as others have said..those of us who have good tr at other forums..and can no longer do offers..are pretty much out of luck here..i have a +82tr on anything4free..and cant do any offers..but of course..cant find anybody willing to do my sites here..because of my 0tr...so ....hmmm...not sure where to go from here...none of the vets here are willing to do any offers for my sites...to help with tr..and i cant do any with other noobs...so...yeah..thats it i guess. |
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ARQuattr Newbie

Age: 35 Gender:  Posts: 0 Joined: 20 May 2007 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with luvrowy and mus351w. Coming from another forum having done several trades, it will be very hard to find offers I haven't done. I agree with the need to prevent scammers, but there must be a way to accomodate traders in this situation. Meanwhile I'm trying to scrape by and get a few TR but I don't know if I'll make it. What else can we do? |
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tasha823 Newbie

Posts: 0 Joined: 30 May 2007 Location: Orlando, FL
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| This definitely hurts newbies, I have already done a trade on this forum with another newbie that was completely successful. So far I can't get any veteran greeners to do offers for me because I have 0 TR..... |
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Latanya Banned

Age: 27 Gender:  Posts: 77 Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| hello Could you contact this person name Maskeen for me and let him know I'll have to pay him because the site hasn't credit me yet. Let him know it's gonna be $20 not $30, because I posted up $15 for that site and if they green instant, I was going to pay $20-. Also tell him to leave his email address in trade mod. I'm sorry to put it in your trade, but this is the only way I can let that person know I haven't forgotten about them. |
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talker Newbie

Age: 59 Gender:  Posts: 5 Joined: 26 May 2007 Location: michigan
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: below 4 no credit |
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this is a good rule to help keep scammers out, but what about the people who have good trades at other sites and then come here and no body will trade with them because they are under 4TR, would be nice if some of the more established traders would check us out and try a trade with us, how else are you gonna tell if we are good or not. oh well.
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moviemadnessman Wanna-Be Moderator

Age: 22 Gender:  Posts: 1977 Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: below 4 no credit |
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this is a good rule to help keep scammers out, but what about the people who have good trades at other sites and then come here and no body will trade with them because they are under 4TR, would be nice if some of the more established traders would check us out and try a trade with us, how else are you gonna tell if we are good or not. oh well.
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That's why the new people should work for some established traders first, doing their sites to build their Tr and rep here before they attempt to pay other for their own sites. I personally help new people all the time, and I know many other people who are happy to work with new people. |
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talker Newbie

Age: 59 Gender:  Posts: 5 Joined: 26 May 2007 Location: michigan
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: below 4 no credit |
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| talker wrote: |
this is a good rule to help keep scammers out, but what about the people who have good trades at other sites and then come here and no body will trade with them because they are under 4TR, would be nice if some of the more established traders would check us out and try a trade with us, how else are you gonna tell if we are good or not. oh well.
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That's why the new people should work for some established traders first, doing their sites to build their Tr and rep here before they attempt to pay other for their own sites. I personally help new people all the time, and I know many other people who are happy to work with new people. |
hi
thanks for the feedback, but i have been doing this for awhile, just not on this site. i feel quite confident that i could buy a green from another trader. also as i have been doing offers for awhile, i have a limited supply of offers to do, untill they put some new one's out. so again thank you for the info
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dazi Newbie

Gender:  Posts: 1 Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Location: ocean state
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I am new to this forum but have been trading over at a4f for a bit and have a tr record there. I agree that this rule makes it difficult for those of us that would be trying to get greens for cash and may not be able to necessarily do offers for others 1st because we have done most of them already. I understand it is to prevent scamming to an extent but it seems awfully unfair that your denying newbies from building a tr record if they are working with other newbies. Sort of damned if you do and damned if you don't!!!
either way I am going to try attempt trading here and see how it goes, no harm no foul I guess. I wish all newbies luck! |
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jessmlhlnd Newbie

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| I'm new to this and it seems to me that the way they have it set up is for our own good. Trading with those more experienced gives us liberty to ask questions and get our cash flow going immediately. To me it shouldn't be about a TR at first. Only about not getting burned so you don't give up, go bankrupt, and never come back again. It all circles around us afterall. At least thats how I take it and I'm good with that. Thanks to all who have traded and are currently trading with me. You've been a blessing. |
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tagurit Newbie

Age: 24 Gender:  Posts: 0 Joined: 11 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: Question |
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I'm new to this site, but I have complete two trades succesfully and given feedback. My question is this? Why don't I have feedback on my page?
The more established traders requested the trade in the module. Does feedback only go to the user who initiated the trade?
When I change my own status to "requesting TR" automatically a box comes up which requires me to give feedback to the other user. Are the established users not required to give feedback to a newbie until a certain number of TR is reached?
Any answers would be appreciated! |
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tracilee User

Age: 43 Gender:  Posts: 68 Joined: 16 May 2007 Location: PACIFIC COAST-OREGON
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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i suppose this rule is to protect the newbies but for me this is a real bummer i have a great tr on flr and am a very trustworthy trader and i cant even post a trade i mean how am i suppose to even get tr points if i cant post a trade it seems my only option is to go green for someone and that is nearly impossible i am completely offered out and am trying to get referals not be a referal so any suggestions  |
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ASharpEdge Regular

Age: 40 Gender:  Posts: 182 Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Location: ILLINOIS
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| You can do a trade with anyone! You just cannot get TR for the trade! It is nice to get TR but it not what this is about. You should have Patience! You have been here 3 weeks and you have another forum that you have been working. You are half way there! Then you will get your TR going up! |
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talker Newbie

Age: 59 Gender:  Posts: 5 Joined: 26 May 2007 Location: michigan
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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and if you hit TR3, none of the people who are above TR4 will do a trade for you so you can reach TR4. i have advertised and explained that i have very few offers left to do, so i am willing to pay to get the trade done. nothing, everyone wants me to do a green for them and i can't, or they do not have many offers left. you can't tell me that a trader with a TR5 has only a few offers left and can't help someone out.
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csullivan1@rochester.rr.c Freepay Fanboy

Age: 30 Gender:  Posts: 311 Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: |
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you can't tell me that a trader with a TR5 has only a few offers left and can't help someone out.
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Why not?? You are saying that you only have a few offers left and you have TR3??? Same thing right? |
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jinko Newbie

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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| This makes it tougher for someone to build their trader rating. I have done a few sites that I could have gotten tr for but since neither one of us had enough TR to credit each other, that didn't happen. Just a thought. |
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mus351w Newbie

Age: 38 Gender:  Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Location: michigan
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| This makes it tougher for someone to build their trader rating. I have done a few sites that I could have gotten tr for but since neither one of us had enough TR to credit each other, that didn't happen. Just a thought. |
Thats why I have 0 TR. I help alot of NooB's and in doing that because they have 0 TR and I have 0 TR I guess that I will never have TR at this forum  |
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Zenith Newbie

Age: 21 Gender:  Posts: 9 Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Oz
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| :\ if you need refferals and dont have the tr record to trade just advertise your links to free ad sites. Thats what I do. I have done 6 offers within the past week but non have even credited my offers yet. Its like the sites are waiting for you go over your trial period to charge you full price and than not pay. And by than you lose more money than the initial trade offer which sucks. |
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ASharpEdge Regular

Age: 40 Gender:  Posts: 182 Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Location: ILLINOIS
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Just a very good suggestion from a trader who has been here a while.......
Many times people will come here to scam people. They make up fake names and attempt to do the same site multiple times. To help everyone help stop scammers.
PLEASE INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE SITE IN THE FEEDBACK YOU GIVE When completing a trade. This will help us stop these scammers a little sooner by allowing everyone to see the trades done by a trader when looking at their profile.
Trade safe everyone!
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