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| yea his "aunts" addreess was used on a few feebie sites according the the owners |
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killerman
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i bought $200 worth of Gc's from him for a $99 amazon gc.
i hope they dont take away my textbooks  |
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ilanbg
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I just caught myself staring at my own avatar for a good minute and a half. |
That is so funny, I just paused on this post and did the very same thing. |
sadly.. so did I. how can you not? why is your avatar 6 times the size of everyone else's? And why are Scarlet's jugs so damned big? jesus woman.
Isaac rocks. |
Frankly I don't know how it passed the avatar requirements. However I can't explain why her jugs are so big. |
Yep, same here. She looks so flustered the first second he starts feeling her up, and I keep trying to read her lips and figure out what she said.
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i guess i would be 1 of the "tough" guys of FIPG
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Which one are you?
Just bring your whole crew and fuck him up.
If people want to get all vigilante, just offer Mr. Black about 2K to split with his group for efforts and risk, and have them beat the amazon password out of DLF. Change it and transfer the funds to TSJ or something, then let him disperse the funds.
I'm fairly serious. That would be illegal of course, but contacting the FBI makes it pretty unlikely for people here to get their money back. Steal the money back, then have half.com press charges, and all will be well, more or less. |
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This is from the info gathering thread. I didn't want to post it there because the rules are pretty strict 
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| The state you live in (if you don't mind): Fl (Parkland) |
Chris is a victim of the scam and lives about an hour from Miami! If nothing else, at least you're close enough to report it to authorities local to HIS area if we do go that route. |
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ilanbg
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| I still say beat the shit out of him before you get him arrested... |
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| I still say beat the shit out of him before you get him arrested... |
You're not helping at all, you're just producing more junk to sift through in these threads to get to the real info.
Can people (especially people not even involved in any way) stop spamming these threads with stupid jokes and useless posts? Those of us involved are taking this very seriously and aren't in the joking mood about this topic. There's plenty of room elsewhere on these forums for useless crap. Thanks.
And no, I'm not a mod, nor am I pretending to be. I can't enforce this, I'm just asking nicely for some space for us to truly discuss this matter more efficiently and try to come to a resolution. |
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FBI North Miami Beach
16320 Northwest Second Avenue
North Miami Beach, Florida 33169-6508
miami.fbi.gov
(305) 944-9101
http://miami.fbi.gov/complain.htm
http://www.ic3.gov/
This might not help you guys get your money back but don't you want to see this asshole go to jail? If everyone files a complaint here that was screwed here and someone posts this and A4F and they all do too, that's a lot of complainants and gets the ball rolling a lot faster. It will also help with Amazon getting your money back if the FBI is involved. I say stop Google mapping his address and start writing down in detail everything that happened, dates, transaction numbers, links to posts, anything you know and get it to the police and FBI. This is more of an FBI thing since it crosses state lines... |
Actually, the form to file with the FBI's internet fraud division (http://www.ic3.gov/) is quite comprehensive. In my opinion, the more complaints the better (even if you only have a very limited amount of information to offer). Filing one large complaint with everyone's information is a good idea, but each person that has been victimized should file an individual complaint for maximum impact.
I've had to file several complaints through my eBay dealings and on more than one occasion the local police went knocking on the perps door! So it definitely works.
Also, the retribution talk really should be minimized or eliminated as the FBI WILL check out this forum for more details. It ruins credibility if you guys start talking about setting up a lynch mob (besides being highly illegal). |
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| Also, the retribution talk really should be minimized or eliminated as the FBI WILL check out this forum for more details. It ruins credibility if you guys start talking about setting up a lynch mob (besides being highly illegal). |
EXACTLY. I, for one, am only interested in taking LEGAL action against this criminal. I'm not getting a "gang of homies" to go beat the guy up. I don't think anyone that is actually a victim of this are even suggesting this. I'd like to request that a mod please delete all these posts suggesting illegal retribution, as they're not serious and not wanted.
Now, do you think those of us that SPENT the gift certificates back when they worked should file a complaint? I've only lost $200 of Half GCs as of now, but will it help my case if Half does decide to try to backcharge me for all the GCs I used? |
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Actually, the form to file with the FBI's internet fraud division (http://www.ic3.gov/) is quite comprehensive. In my opinion, the more complaints the better (even if you only have a very limited amount of information to offer). Filing one large complaint with everyone's information is a good idea, but each person that has been victimized should file an individual complaint for maximum impact.
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I was reading a lot on paypalsucks.com and most of the stories say that the FBI won't bother looking into a case unless its over $20,000 in lost/stolen money. Since that is the case, the only way to file it is as one large complaint, hopefully totallying over $20,000. (It should if they look at how much money we lost in half.com certificates) |
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Actually, the form to file with the FBI's internet fraud division (http://www.ic3.gov/) is quite comprehensive. In my opinion, the more complaints the better (even if you only have a very limited amount of information to offer). Filing one large complaint with everyone's information is a good idea, but each person that has been victimized should file an individual complaint for maximum impact.
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I was reading a lot on paypalsucks.com and most of the stories say that the FBI won't bother looking into a case unless its over $20,000 in lost/stolen money. Since that is the case, the only way to file it is as one large complaint, hopefully totallying over $20,000. (It should if they look at how much money we lost in half.com certificates) |
I don't think guys have anything to worry about as far the $20,000 goes he got more then 20. Lets not forget he has like $11,000 in his amazon account alone and he has spent atleast that already. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, i definitely think we have a better chance if its one case of $20k+ instead of 40 cases of $500 |
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| I still say beat the shit out of him before you get him arrested... |
You're not helping at all, you're just producing more junk to sift through in these threads to get to the real info.
Can people (especially people not even involved in any way) stop spamming these threads with stupid jokes and useless posts? Those of us involved are taking this very seriously and aren't in the joking mood about this topic. There's plenty of room elsewhere on these forums for useless crap. Thanks.
And no, I'm not a mod, nor am I pretending to be. I can't enforce this, I'm just asking nicely for some space for us to truly discuss this matter more efficiently and try to come to a resolution. |
hey man i agree completely, no useless jokes, but chill out, a lot of people can help with information, thats why its open, and i believe there is a separate thread for those who were damaged only, the world needs to know about DLF. |
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| Yeah I'm keeping an eye on this thread but I won't post much, I know this is a shitty situation. I really think you guys should all contact the FBI. You know his address and a lot of info about him. You think anyone that gets scammed on the internet knows much about the person that scammed them? This guy stole a lot of money from you and at least twice that from Half.com, this is a case where the FBI would get involved since its gotta be $50K+ in fraud. |
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i live like an hr from where his supposed address is
Total Est. Time: 1 hour, 9 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 61.53 miles
best bet is complain to amazon about fraud. if they get enough someone will look into it sooner or later. report to police, even if you dont have his name the police have much more advanced tecnology for finding out infromation than anyone here has. so they can find out his location from his IP even if he is using a proxy those can be easily seen thru if you know what you doing. the police force in miami i believe has a big cyber crime section, i think thats where it is i know some place around me has an advanced cyber crime section |
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| fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find. |
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| We could always file a joint one, and then each individually file one. Ill be writing mine up tomorrow, what all should i include? |
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| hey man i agree completely, no useless jokes, but chill out, a lot of people can help with information, thats why its open, and i believe there is a separate thread for those who were damaged only, the world needs to know about DLF. |
You misinterpreted my post if you think I have a problem with people helping with information. Any and all info or otherwise helpful posts are more than welcome. It's just that the other thread is at 14 pages and this one is already on page 6. If I leave the forum for a few hours I have a few pages to go through. I'd rather have a single page of useful posts. And I know that this off topic discussion I'm engaged in isn't helping either. I just wanted to put a note to hopefully decrease the amount of spam.
The other thread is strictly for info that fits the template provided, not for discussion.
Anyway, back to the topic... |
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Ok figure might as well post this for everybody. Here are step by step instructions.
1) File a complaint with the Attorney General in your state http://www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php
2) File a complaint with the Florida Attorney General http://myfloridalegal.com/
3) File a complaint with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center http://www.ic3.gov/
4) File a complaint with your local Police
5) File a complaint with the Miami Police Dept, Investigations Div, Fraud and Forgery (305) 579-6560
6) File a complaint with your CC company
7) File a complaint with the payment type you used. (amazon, paypal, etc)
The biggest one will actually be the Miami police. Once they get 20,000$ worth of complaints they will definitely act on it. The more information each person gives, the sooner they can act on it.
Also lumping everything together in one lump complaint wont work as fast. All these place go by the # of complaints. The more complaints that roll in the more they notice.
Good Luck |
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| fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find. |
This is what the FBI deals with; they'd definitely be interested in someone gaining at least 20K illegally. And doing a joint complain will harbor results, since I doubt they'll even look at any complaints that are in the hundreds or low thousands, regardless of how many they get. |
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Ok just to let everyone know I WAS JOKING WHEN I SAID I WAS 13 IN THE YAY IM 15 THREAD.
I live 10 mins away from him so i can help. Also tough |
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hmm...
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| fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find. |
This is what the FBI deals with; they'd definitely be interested in someone gaining at least 20K illegally. And doing a joint complain will harbor results, since I doubt they'll even look at any complaints that are in the hundreds or low thousands, regardless of how many they get. |
i have a friend who works for the fbi, they really dont give a shit about this stuff, yes 20k is a lot but u see its spread out so its a 200 dollar complain, 300 dollar complaint low amounts, fgr admin has it completely right, read his post, and follow his directions.
as best advice as i can give for "kev" he should report it, his lost 200, b/c most likely his other gcs have already been completed and gone through, but if he has a complaint listed, hes a victim, and therefore if shitbreak goes down, kev wont go with him. i think more opinions the better for his situation. |
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| Similiar situation for me...any advice? |
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| fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find. |
This is what the FBI deals with; they'd definitely be interested in someone gaining at least 20K illegally. And doing a joint complain will harbor results, since I doubt they'll even look at any complaints that are in the hundreds or low thousands, regardless of how many they get. |
I highly doubt the FBI is interested in 20k regardless how it was scammed/forged/whatever. You are better off with local law enforcement and many complaints. |
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You guys don't know what you are talking about. Local law enforcement is for local laws. This spans state lines and is a federal matter. The FBI certainly does care even if its less than $20K especially if they are getting numerous reports. I've seen plenty of stories about the FBI busting people for scams less than $20K. But its up to the people that got scammed.
I know if I lost $2K to this guy I'd call the FBI right away. What is it going to hurt? |
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The guy I dealt with on ebay that had the fbi/doj internet crimes after him had tried to make off with less than $20k. The FBI/doj has an internet crimes division especially for these kinds of cases. Do you want me to scan the fucking pamphlet I received from them about a case where someone got $300-$500 from each person? I really wish people would stop posting misinformation (again, read kevxross' advice).
Add to that what he's done to half.com. |
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You are all partially correct. The FBI does care, but not so much that an FBI agent will go knocking on DLF's door. What will happen is an FBI desk agent will compile the reports and submit a summary to the local police closest to DLF for action.
For those of you implying that small amounts are not investigated, again you are partially correct. If somebody is scammed out of $500 or less (I don't know what amount warrants investigation -- that is simply an arbitrary number), the report will likely be filed away. HOWEVER, if said file starts accumulating numerous reports then they will take notice. Enough reports and eventually it will be investigated. Filing a complaint cannot hurt the situation...it can only help.
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The guy I dealt with on ebay that had the fbi/doj internet crimes after him had tried to make off with less than $20k. The FBI/doj has an internet crimes division especially for these kinds of cases. Do you want me to scan the fucking pamphlet I received from them about a case where someone got $300-$500 from each person? I really wish people would stop posting misinformation (again, read kevxross' advice).
Add to that what he's done to half.com. |
Exactly my point. People need to stop posting things they pull out of their ass. Everyone that was scammed should contact the FBI and file a report. The FBI will compile them into 1 case. At least $13.5K from FIPG alone, this isn't a small case fellas. And if you used up all your Half.com certs I'd report right away since then at least you are trying to catch the guy and Half.com doesn't think you were involved somehow... |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| What all should i put in the report though? Are we sure his name is Gio Franco, do i link to this thread, etc? |
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