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WhyPayItsFree

05-05-2007 10:35:44

Hello,

We have been searching for more affiliate networks so that we can get more offers and we have found many networks. We have also got the offer tracking tested and there were hardly any problems.

However, some of the affiliates do not accept Missing Credit Reports. This means that most, if not all, the time the offers would credit if done correctly, but in case it does not credit, a user would have to do another offer.

We would like to get your opinions.

[b3d1503f747]Would you do offers if Missing Credit Reports are not accepted ?[/b3d1503f747]

condra

05-05-2007 10:46:45

no, its too much of a risk

tinkerjenn

05-05-2007 10:59:06

[quotebee1bc4b37="condra"]no, its too much of a risk[/quotebee1bc4b37]

agreed

TrubluFul

05-05-2007 11:39:54

It depends on the offer (inexpensive...something that I or someone in my family can truly use)...but I'd say 'yes' to get a green fast for someone. 'No' if people are posting a trend of particular offers not crediting and they're not removed immediately.

It's not like most of these 'manual credits' result to anything anyways. Most drift off to NeverCreditland.. (

WhyPayItsFree

05-05-2007 13:57:13

[quote3e25816441="TrubluFul"]It depends on the offer (inexpensive...something that I or someone in my family can truly use)...but I'd say 'yes' to get a green fast for someone. 'No' if people are posting a trend of particular offers not crediting and they're not removed immediately.

It's not like most of these 'manual credits' result to anything anyways. Most drift off to NeverCreditland.. ([/quote3e25816441]

The advertisers spend thousands of dollars in the hope that they will get [b3e25816441]potential customers[/b3e25816441]. We and the advertisers except that a user who does the offers is genuinely interested in that product / service and does not do the offer only for getting credit or a gift.

WhyPayItsFree

05-05-2007 14:04:13

[quotec9fc378b3b="tinkerjenn"][quotec9fc378b3b="condra"]no, its too much of a risk[/quotec9fc378b3b]

agreed[/quotec9fc378b3b]

We have got the tracking for those offers tested and more than 98% of the time, it credited as stated.

In My Opinion, 2% of the completions not being tracked is pretty good. There are some affiliates that have a rate of approximately 10% i.e. 10 out of 100 offers not tracking as stated.

Missing Credit Requests do take time. It generally takes a few weeks but it can take months. Most of the time, the user does an another offer because they do not want to wait.

tinkerjenn

05-05-2007 16:27:14

stop being so logical! ;)

condra

05-05-2007 16:44:46

yes, it takes time. but mine credit most of the time, even if after 2 weeks or 1 month

and i can't tell my refs you did it but you'll never get credited for it, if they don't get credit right away

TrubluFul

06-05-2007 04:20:10

[quote4695f44e29="WhyPayItsFree"][quote4695f44e29="tinkerjenn"][quote4695f44e29="condra"]no, its too much of a risk[/quote4695f44e29]

agreed[/quote4695f44e29]

We have got the tracking for those offers tested and more than 98% of the time, it credited as stated.

In My Opinion, 2% of the completions not being tracked is pretty good. There are some affiliates that have a rate of approximately 10% i.e. 10 out of 100 offers not tracking as stated.

Missing Credit Requests do take time. It generally takes a few weeks but it can take months. Most of the time, the user does an another offer because they do not want to wait.[/quote4695f44e29]

Just to throw this out there too...Manual credits would be potential money for you, right?

What if that 2% includes the higher paying offers (hosting offers, VoIP, casino, etc)? You might miss a good hunk of your potential profit to not go after $ the affiliate owes you if you removed manual crediting.
I don't know how things are paid but as an example.... Affiliate says Lasseters pays $350/new customer (doesnt credit). Person does Bargain Homes ($80/new customer) + Value Max ($80/new customer) to try to go GREEN. You've lost $190 not going after the manual crediting for Lasseters. And then, think exponentially if multiple people not GREENing on Lasseters month after month..It could all add up, right?

WhyPayItsFree

06-05-2007 04:44:32

[quote7c733672ca="TrubluFul"][quote7c733672ca="WhyPayItsFree"][quote7c733672ca="tinkerjenn"][quote7c733672ca="condra"]no, its too much of a risk[/quote7c733672ca]

agreed[/quote7c733672ca]

We have got the tracking for those offers tested and more than 98% of the time, it credited as stated.

In My Opinion, 2% of the completions not being tracked is pretty good. There are some affiliates that have a rate of approximately 10% i.e. 10 out of 100 offers not tracking as stated.

Missing Credit Requests do take time. It generally takes a few weeks but it can take months. Most of the time, the user does an another offer because they do not want to wait.[/quote7c733672ca]

Just to throw this out there too...Manual credits would be potential money for you, right?

What if that 2% includes the higher paying offers (hosting offers, VoIP, casino, etc)? You might miss a good hunk of your potential profit to not go after $ the affiliate owes you if you removed manual crediting.
I don't know how things are paid but as an example.... Affiliate says Lasseters pays $350/new customer (doesnt credit). Person does Bargain Homes ($80/new customer) + Value Max ($80/new customer) to try to go GREEN. You've lost $190 not going after the manual crediting for Lasseters. And then, think exponentially if multiple people not GREENing on Lasseters month after month..It could all add up, right?[/quote7c733672ca]

Most, if not all the affiliates do [b7c733672ca]not[/b7c733672ca] process requests without a confirmation email.

There are many sites and affiliate networks running offers that do not allow manual credits and the user is not aware of that. That is one of the reasons, many times they don't go through even after months, because the advertisers just don't accept them. I would not take any names here but if you search, you will get more information on this.

The question here is not of profits. We will accept reports [b7c733672ca]if[/b7c733672ca] the affiliate and the advertisers do.

As I mentioned before as well, users are supposed to do offers [b7c733672ca]if[/b7c733672ca] they are interested in the products / services offered by the advertiser and [b7c733672ca]not[/b7c733672ca] because they want to go [b7c733672ca]"green"[/b7c733672ca] for someone and get paid.

Apparently, that is [b7c733672ca]not[/b7c733672ca] the case and the users do offers even if they have no interest in the product and / or service.

WhyPayItsFree

09-05-2007 13:47:00

Some affiliates have agreed to accept Missing Credit Report's and get them verified by the advertiser.

However, they want all the reports to be submitted on the 20th of every month. They'll then forward them to the advertiser at the end of the month and be able to provide an update by the first week of the following month.

[bf53108ebd5]Would you do offers if this is the case ?[/bf53108ebd5]

Skimboarder

09-05-2007 14:58:12

Submitted my vote. I would still complete offers, because there is always that risk that it does not go through. Also, most of the time when you submit for a credit request you do not get it anyways. At least that has been my experience.

cubbieco

14-05-2007 00:24:36

[quote1af447f16c="WhyPayItsFree"]Some affiliates have agreed to accept Missing Credit Report's and get them verified by the advertiser.

However, they want all the reports to be submitted on the 20th of every month. They'll then forward them to the advertiser at the end of the month and be able to provide an update by the first week of the following month.

[b1af447f16c]Would you do offers if this is the case ?[/b1af447f16c][/quote1af447f16c]

As far as the 20th of the month that's just fine. I have a manual credit pending after two months still. For all I know they only accepted here at the 20th. I appreciate your honesty and being up front about it but I think you'll find that most people have a less than stellar experience with manual credits anyway and for all we know we've submitted manual credits for offers that never accept them anyway.

WhyPayItsFree

16-05-2007 13:46:17

[quote11e96003b8="cubbieco"][quote11e96003b8="WhyPayItsFree"]Some affiliates have agreed to accept Missing Credit Report's and get them verified by the advertiser.

However, they want all the reports to be submitted on the 20th of every month. They'll then forward them to the advertiser at the end of the month and be able to provide an update by the first week of the following month.

[b11e96003b8]Would you do offers if this is the case ?[/b11e96003b8][/quote11e96003b8]

As far as the 20th of the month that's just fine. I have a manual credit pending after two months still. For all I know they only accepted here at the 20th. I appreciate your honesty and being up front about it but I think you'll find that most people have a less than stellar experience with manual credits anyway and for all we know we've submitted manual credits for offers that never accept them anyway.[/quote11e96003b8]

I believe the reason Missing Credit Reports are generally not approved is because by the time the advertisers review, the user stops using their product / service.

We and advertisers expect that the users would do offers to try the product / service offered by the advertiser and not for getting a gift. However, that is not the case at this time. Most, if not all, do offers just to get a gift.

Some affiliates are willing to accept it on the 20th. Some of them do not want them at all.

There are many benefits of using other affiliates, including but not limited to, offers for International Users, Higher Payouts i.e. Higher Credit Value etc but the main disadvantage is Missing Credits.