nVidia GeForce 9 series (G98)

Was just about done choosing what I was going to buy from newegg to build my new PC, when I heard the new geforce 9 series is coming out soon...estimated Q4 2007 (November). I've been hearing this rumor around quite a lot lately...and I've decided to hold off on building my new PC with an 8800GTX (was going to overclock it to match the ultra), and wait for the release of the 9800.

Anyone heard anything about the release of this? I've gotten this info from some pretty reliable forums, people, and other websites; just wondering what you guys had to say )

When a new series comes out, it costs ALOT. You are better off either buying a GeForce 8 series when 9 comes out, or wait a few months after 9 comes out.

O_O

From what I've read, the G98 is just a refinement of the current-gen G83 (8600) part. It's a mainstream (mid-price) part. I'm hearing that the G98 will premier in the 256-bit 8600 card, at around $199 pricepoint.

If that's true, it won't be better than an 8800GTX.

http//www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/08/21/nvidias-g98-is-a-mainstream-chip

FYI, SD just posted a link to Fry's deal on the 8800GTS
http//slickdeals.net/?permadeal=10387#direct_deal_10387

Nvm, just saw they sold out. Wow, that was fast shock

[quotec65ae5c714="dmorris68"]From what I've read, the G98 is just a refinement of the current-gen G83 (8600) part. It's a mainstream (mid-price) part. I'm hearing that the G98 will premier in the 256-bit 8600 card, at around $199 pricepoint.

If that's true, it won't be better than an 8800GTX.

http//www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/08/21/nvidias-g98-is-a-mainstream-chip[/quotec65ae5c714]

Yes, that was posted by the inquirer...which then a little later xbitlabs confirmed it will be a high end card.

http//www.beyond3d.com/content/news/230

[quoteacd0fa190a="Iz"][quoteacd0fa190a="dmorris68"]From what I've read, the G98 is just a refinement of the current-gen G83 (8600) part. It's a mainstream (mid-price) part. I'm hearing that the G98 will premier in the 256-bit 8600 card, at around $199 pricepoint.

If that's true, it won't be better than an 8800GTX.

http//www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/08/21/nvidias-g98-is-a-mainstream-chip[/quoteacd0fa190a]

Yes, that was posted by the inquirer...which then a little later xbitlabs confirmed it will be a high end card.

http//www.beyond3d.com/content/news/230[/quoteacd0fa190a]
A little later? The Beyond3D article you link to is from May and discussed the G92. The Inquirer article is from August, discusses the G98, and it's corroborated by other articles I've read recently that say the next Nvidia part is a mainstream part, not high end. Plus there's not much substance in that article about it being a "high end" part, other than the TFLOP claim. I found another writer with a "source" inside Nvidia saying it will be called the 8700GTS.

However, xbitlabs refers to a "G92" part while everybody else is calling it a "G98" part.

http//www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_G98_Card_To_Price_Cheaply_At_$_59/5249.html

So it's all speculation at this point. If you can provide a more recent article(s) with solid information that they're going to release a higher-end card than current top-end 8800 series, then I'd like to see it, because I'll be picking up whatever is top of the line by Christmas probably. And based on reports, I had already settled on that being an 8800GTX/Ultra. Nothing so far points to a higher end card by the end of this year.

The link was separate from xbitlabs' report. That was just another report from a different source saying it will be a high end card.

nVidia always releases the high end card first, it's always been like that. The only questions is WHEN in Q4 2007.

Past history doesn't guarantee future behavior. ;) I've been an Nvidia customer for many years, since the Riva 128 days, with a short foray into ATI cards (the 9800 generation) while they ate Nvidia's lunch. I've been back with Nvidia since the 6xxx generation. So I'm familiar with their patterns, but all I'm reading seems to imply that they're bucking the trend with the next release.

I also read the xbitlabs article[=http//www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070902154658.html]xbitlabs article (assuming it's the same one you're referring to), and it wasn't based on fact, it was based upon the reviewer's speculation. In fact, in the first paragraph it quoted an Nvidia rep as saying they were not replacing their top of the line 8800 Ultra series this year. It's also dated Sept 2nd, and I'm reading a lot of articles from late Sept and early Oct that disagree.

Here's another interesting site http//www.geforce9.com

It has a lot of information (how much is true I don't know, but they seem pretty confidant), and also points out the the G92 and G98 monikers are obsolete -- the G92 is now the D8M. "D" for desktop, "8" for 8000 series, "M" for mainstream. There will eventually be a "V" for value and "E" for enthusiast, which is where the high-end would come from. This site claims the D8M will be released as the 8800GT. It goes on to imply the G98 will be called the D9E, which liwouldli appear to be a next-gen enthusiast card, but the site claims it won't be out until 2008.

[quote8ce7439d83] Nvidia G92 coming in November as the GeForce 8800 GT

After flipping one innocent coin for a few times the Green Graphics Team, Nvidia has decided to name its upcoming G92 aka G8P cards GeForce 8800 GT. The GeForce 8800 GT will come in two versions, one with 256MB of memory costing $199 and one with 512MB at $249. Both will have a 256-bit memory interface and will be powered by the uber-rumored 65nm-built G92. Both will most likely support DirectX 10.1 and both will have to battle AMD's unpcoming RV670 cards. The release of the 8800 GTs is slated for the first half of November.
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Nvidia agrees that D8M and D8E are simply evolutionary steps as it shrinked its chips from 90 to 65 nanometre but the real next generation will come next year probably in Q2 if not later.
This reflects the Nvidia's financial conference call, where one of the Vice Presidents said, that Nvidia would have at least two new high-end products until the next analysts' call. These usually take place once a year.
D8E is a dual PCB dual chip card while D9E is a new chip that we don't know much about. We know it will be much faster than G80 but that is about it. In 2008 the graphics boys can do 55 nanometre and it will be too soon for 45 at least we think so.[/quote8ce7439d83]

Your arguments are very well backed up, but I still have this feeling they'll be releasing in mid-november with a high end chip. It just seems logical with the Christmas season coming in.

Here's a couple articles I found, both about the same story on the new series

http//xtreview.com/addcomment-id-3164-view-GeForce-9800-GTX-details.html

http//www.hardware.info/nl-NL/news/ynCckZqSwpma/Specificaties_GeForce_9800_GTX/


Shove the second link into freetranslation.com and translate it from dutch to english. Not the greatest translation of course, but you get the just of what he's saying.

Small minor articles, but they're still keeping me to believe a high end card will be released mid-Nov.

Turns out that the 9 series was the 8800 GT. Much cooler high end card for only $300. Out performs the 8800 GTS. Sold out everywhere though, can't seem to get a grab on it.

[quote367ab4701c="Iz"]Turns out that the 9 series was the 8800 GT. Much cooler high end card for only $300. Out performs the 8800 GTS. Sold out everywhere though, can't seem to get a grab on it.[/quote367ab4701c]
licoughli told-you-so licoughli

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Yeah, the 8800GT is looking like the sweet spot of price/performance. With a very minor overclock it actually performs neck & neck with a GTX.

Since I have accumulated $300 in Amazon credits, I think I'll wind up with one of these (when available) and save the cash I was about to drop on a GTX. Then next year I won't feel so bad for buying whatever the G98 turns out to actually be (or the new AMD that is rumored to put them at or near the top again).