Look at this incredible laptop for an amazing price. [dmorr]

TFOAF

01-06-2007 14:05:58

Look at this sexy laptop (ASUS G2S-A1)!

http//www.excaliberpc.com/ASUS_G2S-A1_Intel_Core_2_Duo_T7500/90NJYA6531222CQL100T/partinfo-id-579729.html
> http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220185

[b5b1ce9e780]2.2GHz Core 2 Duo
160 GB HDD @ 5400RPM - eSATA
nVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB with 512 MB TurboCache
17.1" widescreen monitor (8ms response time)
2GB DDR2 RAM
WLAN 802.11 A/B/G/N, 1.3 megapixel webcam, Bluetooth V2.0+EDR
backback and gaming mouse
DVD/RW Dual Layer with lightscribe
HDMI connection
S-video, DVI-D, line-in shock
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
5-1 in card reader
Tons more...[/b5b1ce9e780]

holy crap that's an amazing laptop for ONLY $2,099! That's $800 cheaper than the Dell laptop I was going to get. I just can't figure out when this laptop is going to get released.

It sucks that it comes with Vista installed...however, it is possible to reformat it with the NTFS file system and install XP, correct?

D

Tholek

01-06-2007 15:29:00

Should be. Is there a 7200rpm drive option? That would be better if you can afford it.

tjwor

01-06-2007 18:08:04

MBP FTW

TFOAF

01-06-2007 18:36:07

No, there's no option to configure the laptop...and it's not released yet, so I'm not sure. Does the RPM between 5400 and 7200 really make a huge difference? / What noticeable difference can you see?

Tholek

01-06-2007 18:54:22

A 7200rpm will allow the OS to boot a bit faster. Quicker access and all that jazz. There's a price difference though. I have a 5400rpm in [i1b6c738981]my[/i1b6c738981] laptop. ;)

TFOAF

01-06-2007 19:06:08

Heh, other than that, this is the most inexpensive/most powerful laptop I've seen yet to date. I had a similar laptop configured (2.16GHz C2D, 7900 Go, 2 GB RAM, 100 GB HDD @ 7200 RPM, 17 inch screen)...and it was $2,890. Mostly because they make you get one year of that theft protection crap, and year of support and all that other crap you don't need. The only thing I like about Dell is that you can configure it to your own needs...and my neighbor can get a 35% off discount from them because of where she works. D

But I think I'll go with this ASUS. D

Only one concern.....battery life. What could I expect out of this just doing work (word, excel), browsing the internet, and talking on AIM? (Not gaming, I would obviously have it plugged in when gaming, lol)

Edit Actually just found this.
> Battery Li-ion to 8 cells 4.5hrs/2.5hrs; (what's 4.5/hrs/2.5hrs mean?)

This thing would be f'ing awesome. It's got DVI. I could hook it up to my 19" widescreen monitor, get a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard, and it'll be like a new high-end desktop. D

Other infos http//laptopcom.blogspot.com/2007/05/asus-g2s-a1-17-gaming-laptop-with-santa.html

Oh and look here...it's BEAUTIFUL. D
http//usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=61&l3=417&l4=0&model=1675&modelmenu=1

Also, if anything, I could just add a new 7200 RPM hard drive if I ever wanted to.

Also, the gaming card is 128-bit...is that going to be [i409a9eb96c]much[/i409a9eb96c] of a problem, it's 256MB but 128-bit, but it's the GeForce 8 series.

samz465

01-06-2007 19:19:55

wow...That's VERY sweet.
I'd take that over the dell haha.

Tholek

02-06-2007 07:45:05

[quote11af7c9af5="TFOAF"]Only one concern.....battery life. What could I expect out of this just doing work (word, excel), browsing the internet, and talking on AIM? (Not gaming, I would obviously have it plugged in when gaming, lol)

Edit Actually just found this.
> Battery Li-ion to 8 cells 4.5hrs/2.5hrs; (what's 4.5/hrs/2.5hrs mean?)[/quote11af7c9af5]

Says it on the page

"Charging Time 4.5hrs/2.5hrs (System On/ Off) to 95%"

[quote11af7c9af5="TFOAF"]Also, the gaming card is 128-bit...is that going to be [i11af7c9af5]much[/i11af7c9af5] of a problem, it's 256MB but 128-bit, but it's the GeForce 8 series.[/quote11af7c9af5]

Beats [i11af7c9af5]64-bit[/i11af7c9af5]. ;)

Looks like a nice machine. 5400rpm isn't terrible either. I'd just expect a rig like that to have 7400rpm.

Or, you could drop a grand for one of these

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=63540 D

TFOAF

02-06-2007 09:51:47

Heheh. Wait...I'm not interested in the charging time...what's the battery life when not playing games? P

And ... will 128-bit play those high-end games? What's the difference between 256 and 128 bit cards? liconfusedli

Thanks for your help.

Tholek

02-06-2007 12:12:20

[quoted7a35e2d05="TFOAF"]Heheh. Wait...I'm not interested in the charging time...what's the battery life when not playing games? P

And ... will 128-bit play those high-end games? What's the difference between 256 and 128 bit cards? liconfusedli

Thanks for your help.[/quoted7a35e2d05]

I can't speak as authoritatively as dmorris68 on these things, but I'll give it a shot. ;)

I'm not sure about the battery time on that model, but the 8600 GT is likely a battery drainer. So may be the N card. I can only guess that 2 hours is a liberal estimate even when not gaming. For the card, to my knowledge it's a matter of bandwidth and the speed of communication between the GPU and RAM. The difference between a 128 and 256 could be noticeable on high game settings. You'll probably just get better performance from a 256 bit card. I tend to doubt that a game that will run on a 256-bit GeForce 8, won't run on a 128 bit version, though.

Then again, I'm not a gamer, so take that as you will. ;)

TFOAF

02-06-2007 12:20:37

Blaaaaaaarg. Do they make better batteries? If so, where can I get them? Also, if I lowered the brightness of the monitor and such, it should extend the battery life, right? nVidia has this software where when idle, it lowers the contract and brightness.

Geh, I'll be able to play high-end games though at reasonable frame rates, that's all I need.

dmorris68...wanna add anything?

Thank you Tholek. +Karma

Tholek

02-06-2007 14:24:21

Decreasing screen brightness does help. In fact, this may help too

http//www.pbus-167.com/

I posted a screenshot of it running on my VAIO in the desktop thread. It doesn't fully support everything for my VAIO, but I think it does for ASUS models.

TFOAF

02-06-2007 14:25:47

Wow, that looks pretty neat. I'll check it out. Thank you! D

dmorris68

02-06-2007 14:27:47

A 7200rpm HDD would be a noticeable improvement, if it were available for that model. Spindle speed has a huge effect on I/O-intensive operations, which just about anything Windows related is I/O-intensive. Anytime you can increase the spindle speed you will boost both OS speed and application speed, especially anything that hits the HDD often.

A 128-bit video memory bus will run anything a 256-bit bus will run, only slower. A 128-bit bus moves 16 bytes (4 DWORD's) at a time to/from video RAM in a single cycle, while a 256-bit bus can move 32 bytes/8 DWORD's in that same cycle. So twice the data is moved around in the same amount of time, all other specs being equal. A laptop almost never makes a great 3D gaming platform though, so don't expect the performance you'd get from a similarly equipped desktop.

Battery drain will definitely be affected by how you use it, and heavy 3D gaming is going to drain it quicker. Higher-capacity batteries are usually available (say, 8-cell instead of 6-cell), and most Dells support dual-batteries but depending on the model you might have to give up the optical drive or something else to swap for the battery. However laptop batteries are expensive. Expect to pay $200-$300 for an extra high-cap battery, unless you go with a cheap import (that I wouldn't recommend on a new laptop, as it would void the warranty -- not to mention possibly destroy your laptop, burn down your house, etc.).

TFOAF

02-06-2007 14:55:36

Also, I was looking. On the ExcaliberPC website, it says it has a DVI-D port, where Newegg's and ASUS' website don't list a DVI-D port, only VGA. Damn I hope it has DVI, lol.

Edit Thanks for the information David. Where would I get one of these batteries if I needed it?

Tholek

02-06-2007 16:34:23

Hmmm. 15.4", but configurable.

http//1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G1S-A1&Store_Code=GPS

TFOAF

02-06-2007 19:26:29

^ Meh. That looks okay. I like the 17" screen though on the G2S. Is that site reputable? Also, I like the fact I can choose a 7200RPM drive, and Windows XP Professional. How would the laptop work if ASUS only makes Vista drivers for it? \/ Read below. \/

I was on ASUS' website, and they only offer Vista drivers. If I were to install XP, how would I get everything to work? (

Bleh.

Thanks. Does that site have a G2S-A1 that can be configurable? D

Edit Ahahah. Yes, they do. Wow. Just need to know if this site's reputable.
> http//1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G2S-A1&Store_Code=GPS

I love you.

Also, on that site, where it says "Self Install", that means I install Windows and everything myself, however, where do the drivers come into play? Do I get them? And how would they be able to work on XP (again)? lol

Also, I assume this laptop doesn't have a DVI port, which means that ExcaliberPC site was wrong. O_o

KnightTrader

02-06-2007 19:34:45

30 min gaming battery life I bet, Awesome! We all know laptops are just portable porn machines, I'm a laptop owner, I know, and because of that reason, battery life + Screen size = king. Get a cheaper rig with a longer battery! If you want to game, do it cheaper and better on a desktop! Laptops are for pr0n.

Tholek

02-06-2007 20:31:05

http//www.resellerratings.com/store/GenTech_Computers_15

[quote1de80411ac="TFOAF"]Also, on that site, where it says "Self Install", that means I install Windows and everything myself, however, where do the drivers come into play? Do I get them? And how would they be able to work on XP (again)? lol

Also, I assume this laptop doesn't have a DVI port, which means that ExcaliberPC site was wrong. O_o[/quote1de80411ac]

Unsure. It looks like they have the option of doing it for you, but I don't know if you get the disc. You were lucky I just ran across that link while looking at something else. )

TFOAF

03-06-2007 00:06:28

Hmm, thanks. G-d dammit, I can't fall asleep. (

Just one last question, where can I purchase these extended batteries and whatnot, or secondary battery if needed, (or can this hold two batteries)?

I'm just extremely worried about battery life. (

Also, if I were to go with the G1S (15.4") instead of the G2S, how much battery gain would I get? )

The G1S is around 3 pounds lighter, and the screen is 15.4". Is there anything else lacking in the G1S that isn't in the G2S? And what's the difference between the screens? The 15.4" is WSXGA, and the 17" is like WUXGA or something like that.

Also, Tholek, I love you even more. This site doesn't charge sales tax. O_O

I was thinking of going with the G1S, merely because it's 3 pounds lighter. It's going to have the 15.4" screen, 7200 RPM drive, and XP Pro, and the total cost with shipping is $2,179.05. This laptop is basically for college, you think that's good? And the battery life will be extended because of the screen difference? Also it's got 2G's of RAM. D

[bf01a022aea]Oh, and I'm scared about the drivers thing. Because ASUS only offers Vista drivers, so how are they going to work if I get XP through GenTech?[/bf01a022aea]

Oh, and read this http//www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3728&review=Asus+G1S
D
The dude said he got 2 hours and 30 minutes of battery life watching a MOVIE on this thing. The only thing he really didn't like were the speakers, I can live with that though. And with the USB ports in the back, well, it's not horrible. And he said there's a DVI-D port. Yay. D I think the G1S is a better bet. D Ahahahah. I feel so happy. Now to convince my mom that getting an ASUS is better than gettting a Dell.

Tholek

03-06-2007 00:46:35

Dunno if ASUS has an ultrabay-like swappable drivebay or not. If the optical drive is removable, then there may be a second battery option. Hard to say on the other stuff. A bigger screen conceivably would use more juice, but they may be about the same.

Oh, and I expect to get something nice with that tax difference. ;)

TFOAF

03-06-2007 01:11:55

Eheheheh...right. P

And the drivers thing? P

Thanks so much Tholek/dmorris. You've been extremely helpful.

Tholek

03-06-2007 01:15:51

Not sure. Why not ASK the company? ;)

I'm assuming they must have some kind of drivers disk(s) that they use if they can preload as well. Maybe they just send that to you. Ask them.

TFOAF

03-06-2007 05:39:01

[quote6f166eff63="Tholek"]Not sure. Why not ASK the company? ;)

I'm assuming they must have some kind of drivers disk(s) that they use if they can preload as well. Maybe they just send that to you. Ask them.[/quote6f166eff63]
I did, I just emailed them.

[quote6f166eff63]Hello. I've heard many great stories about your service, and I'm just inquiring about a product before purchasing it.

I plan on purchasing the ASUS GS1-A1 laptop within the next few weeks.

1. Is there any way you could keep one on hold for me, so that they're not sold out? I really need one for college, and that's soon. And if you did, I would purchase this laptop within the next few weeks.
2. It states, when configuring the laptop through your website, that I can get Windows XP Professional. What's the difference between "self install" and when you guys install it with the drivers? (No price difference?)
3. I've checked ASUS' website, and they only have drivers for the laptop for Windows Vista. If I do the self install, do I get the drivers with it too (the ones that work with XP, and will they work?)
4. Do I get the Windows XP Professional CD, and is it genuine? I would also like to know if I get the drivers CD as well (the XP drivers).
5. It comes with the original box too right? As well as the backpack and mouse?
6. Does this laptop have a DVI-D port?

That pretty much sums up my questions. I appreciate your time taken to answer this questions. I hope to be doing business with you soon.

Thank you,
Craig[/quote6f166eff63]

P D

TFOAF

03-06-2007 10:32:33

Aww, the G1S doesn't have that silver exterior like the G2S. (

Poopy.

TFOAF

03-06-2007 11:50:28

LOL, now my mom is saying that she wants me to get a Dell, because it's a brand name. So is ASUS, and she's telling me that Dells are better. LOL, she has no idea what she's talking about. lisighli

She's telling me that it's for college and I'm making a bad choice by not going with Dell or a "brand name." I actually think ASUS laptops are built better than Dell, lol.

CollidgeGraduit

03-06-2007 11:54:38

Is she paying for it?

TFOAF

03-06-2007 12:01:09

Nope, I am. She's complaining how it's a bad decision. Hell, the ASUS laptop has a two year warranty, while the Dell only has one. And ASUS makes better products.

CollidgeGraduit

03-06-2007 12:06:32

[quote1a1b7c2cbf="TFOAF"]Nope, I am. She's complaining how it's a bad decision. Hell, the ASUS laptop has a two year warranty, while the Dell only has one. And ASUS makes better products.[/quote1a1b7c2cbf]

I don't see how she has any say then.. Order it, have it shipped somewhere else, and slap a big "Dell" sticker on the case P

TFOAF

03-06-2007 13:10:03

lol. I love how she contradicts herself. She tells me I can buy whatever I want, and then she starts complaining about the bad choices thing. I just have to convince her that ASUS is better than Dell...which it is. Dell doesn't even use standard parts, lol.

TFOAF

03-06-2007 13:14:52

Shit. Someone help me please, because I DON'T wanna run Vista.

http//forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2007573&postcount=5 < [b8d93b08565]read this[/b8d93b08565]

Someone found modded video card drivers (but I read that they don't function properly ()
http//www.driverheaven.net/windows-xp-linux-nvidia-display-drivers/134673-forceware-165-01-xp-english-only.html

But what about everything else? How could GenTech offer XP and the drivers when they don't make any?

I'm really...concerned and confused.

I also read I could just use the XP drivers from the ASUS G1 laptop, because there weren't any changes, but that doesn't include the video card. But that can't be right, I'm looking at the driver versions on ASUS' website and they're different. And what about the wireless card, and the bluetooth, and sound card? cry lisighli I'm so confused.

And the thing is...I'll deal with the Vista, just my mom and dad are complaining to me that Vista's horrible and I can't use it. Well, it's my money...and I won't care if I have to use Vista.

dmorris68

03-06-2007 18:54:00

I don't know anything about forcing XP drivers on hardware that it doesn't support. It might work, however different laptop vendors customize their video hardware which is why you can't download reference laptop drivers from Nvidia's site.

IMO Vista isn't ready for prime time yet, I've had too many issues with it. It really depends on what you use it for, I guess, but if you're planning on gaming much there are lots of games that have problems with it.

But I believe Microsoft still allows you a "downgrade" license to install XP (assuming you have a working key) legally if you purchase Vista. That way you can re-image with Vista later when all the kinks are worked out, at no extra charge.

TFOAF

03-06-2007 18:58:13

I really didn't plan on gaming...it's mostly for college. The only time I'd attempt to game would be at home. I mean, I'll basically be using it for AIM, Office 2007, browsing the web...and whatnot.

Damn, I hope AIM 5.5 will work on Vista. I just have to figure out a way for my parents to let me get that Vista laptop. I mean...it's my money, so. ?

And that laptop won't function with XP, because there are no drivers for it.

moviemadnessman

03-06-2007 19:00:16

[quoteb48bb270d1="TFOAF"]I just have to figure out a way for my parents to let me get that Vista laptop. I mean...it's my money, so. ?[/quoteb48bb270d1]While it does sound like your mom is a controlling, why wouldn't they let you get the latest technology for your computer? That doesn't make any sense ... especially if you are buying it.

TFOAF

03-06-2007 19:03:41

^, because they've heard that "Vista is horrible." And won't one day things start to work on Vista more normally? Like, will old XP applications be able to work on Vista one day?

dmorris68

03-06-2007 19:46:05

Most things work on Vista today. Just not everything (and some things work, just not very well). And there are known glitches such as extremely slow network copies for some folks.

But if you're not into heavy gaming, and the hardware on the laptop is fully supported by Vista (presumably so, since it comes with Vista), then I'm sure Vista will probably be fine for you.

Tholek

03-06-2007 22:44:36

FOAF, this is a gaming laptop that you're considering here. Why???

You clearly won't be making real use of the better hardware, and it's not like it's a gift. YOU are paying for it. It just seems weird that you want this when you won't even plan on doing what this was made for.

If you want a status symbol laptop, go for a (I know, I'm a broken record here) ThinkPad T, or maybe a VAIO TZ series. The latter is even hand painted, from what I saw. ASUS is great, especially since they manufacture what they sell, but this model seems like overkill considering your recent comments.

I'd also get used to Vista, if I were you. This machine is not likely to be buggy, especially since you won't be pushing it to the wall.

TFOAF

04-06-2007 10:41:59

I never said I won't game, I'll game at home, and the laptop is perfect for me. D

I'll discuss this with my mother and tell her I don't care what kind she wants me to get, and that I want Vista. D

Thanks guys.

manOFice

04-06-2007 11:58:45

Buy a cheaper laptop and use the rest of the money on beer at college!

Beside you don't wanna be one of those guys that sits around college or home and just plays video games....just get a laptop to surf and type papers or some crap. You could actually buy a cheaper laptop and use the rest of the money for books

But I recommend for beer ;)

TFOAF

04-06-2007 12:30:00

No beer. And I'm not going to be sitting and playing games 24/7. It's just there so I [i30c42b8700]can[/i30c42b8700] play games without any trouble. Plus it's a really nice laptop. I'll probably buy this with 3GB of RAM and Vista Ultimate, just because I'm a techy guy, not a geek, just really into computers and stuff like that. I [i30c42b8700]am[/i30c42b8700] minoring in computer science so to speak. P

tylerc

04-06-2007 13:04:12

[quoteadf3a12d73="TFOAF"]No beer.[/quoteadf3a12d73]

Vodka?

manOFice

04-06-2007 13:07:13

[quotee4762df077="tylerc"][quotee4762df077="TFOAF"]No beer.[/quotee4762df077]

Vodka?[/quotee4762df077]

Smirnoff for foafy ;)

tylerc

04-06-2007 13:08:25

McCormick's for me most likely.

TFOAF

04-06-2007 13:12:19

lisighli I don't drink.

manOFice

04-06-2007 13:14:45

[quoteb3f507b2a9="TFOAF"]lisighli I don't drink.[/quoteb3f507b2a9]

When you get to college you will ;)

Anyways on topic, get the laptop if you want but I think you could go lower end.

TFOAF

04-06-2007 13:27:31

No, I won't drink. I don't like the taste, 'cept for Mike's Hard Lemonade, but even then, I won't care for one.

I don't want lower end. My PC at home is shitty, and my mom would never let me get a new PC, so this laptop is perfect for me. ;)

manOFice

04-06-2007 13:29:06

[quotec7eced1d18="TFOAF"]No, I won't drink. I don't like the taste, 'cept for Mike's Hard Lemonade, but even then, I won't care for one.

I don't want lower end. My PC at home is shitty, and my mom would never let me get a new PC, so this laptop is perfect for me. ;)[/quotec7eced1d18]

Okie Dokie )

TFOAF

04-06-2007 16:19:47

Can someone tell me if AIM 5.5 works on Vista Ultimate (32-bit)? Thanks.

manOFice

04-06-2007 18:51:02

I have aim running on my laptop that is running vista so i wanna say yes.

TFOAF

04-06-2007 19:12:47

^, but is it 5.5? 6.1 is their new Vista version. I love 5.5 and never want to upgrade. P

moviemadnessman

04-06-2007 19:15:24

[quoteaeb988c7e8="TFOAF"]^, but is it 5.5? 6.1 is their new Vista version. I love 5.5 and never want to upgrade. P[/quoteaeb988c7e8]Why don't you want to upgrade? The only thing I don't like about 6.1 is I can't warn people or see how much I've been warned ... had some people get mad at YGF and me for breaking the TOS, so and they warn-kicked me off ?

TFOAF

04-06-2007 19:17:26

Because it's a POS. D

With AIM 5.5, I use a plugin called DeadAIM, has a log manager, tabbed windows, and it just outright ROCKS. (

moviemadnessman

04-06-2007 19:18:16

[quote7293a70e65="TFOAF"]Because it's a POS. D

With AIM 5.5, I use a plugin called DeadAIM, has a log manager, tabbed windows, and it just outright ROCKS. ([/quote7293a70e65]6.1 has those all built in shrug

TFOAF

04-06-2007 19:20:14

Does it have direct connect, send file, and all that other cool stuff that AIM 5.5 has?

moviemadnessman

04-06-2007 19:21:03

[quote90a7c53895="TFOAF"]Does it have direct connect, send file, and all that other cool stuff that AIM 5.5 has?[/quote90a7c53895]Yes. You just can't warn ?

TFOAF

04-06-2007 19:22:21

You sure you can't warn? Not like warning ever worked right anyways.

moviemadnessman

04-06-2007 19:28:35

[quote8deff53993="TFOAF"]You sure you can't warn? Not like warning ever worked right anyways.[/quote8deff53993]I'm pretty sure. And warning does work, sadly. I got warn kicked 3 days ago roll

TFOAF

05-06-2007 13:46:43

So I figured these are going to be the specs of the laptop

2.2GHz Core 2 Duo/4MB Cache
4 GB RAM
120GB HDD @ 7200RPM
nVidia Geforce 8600M GT/256MB
15.4" WSXGA+ 1680X1050 Color Shine (Glossy)
8x Super-Multi DVDRW Dual layer with Light Scribe
Windows Vista Ultimate/32-bit
Built in Bluetooth/Wireless a/b/g/n
ASUS 2 year global warranty
Free backpack and logitech optical mouse
5-in-1 card reader
Built in 1.3MP high resolution webcam

Total $2,407.00 + ~$30 Shipping.

No tax. D

tylerc

05-06-2007 14:43:48

Got a dual layer burner?

TFOAF

05-06-2007 14:45:40

[quote3979a22979="tylerc"]Got a dual layer burner?[/quote3979a22979]
Not sure...lemme check. I don't use DL DVDs anyways, lol.

Yup. "8x Super-Multi DVDRW Dual layer with Light Scribe"

Tholek

05-06-2007 14:49:24

and you expected to have to pay tax too....

Still, ouch at the price.

TFOAF

05-06-2007 14:55:28

[quote381e1d700f="Tholek"]and you expected to have to pay tax too....

Still, ouch at the price.[/quote381e1d700f]
If I can afford it, why not? D Dell would sell this thing for at least $3,000, probably more.

If I'm lazy and don't feel like spending another $200, I'll just make it 3GB or just leave it at 2GB. I'd love to have 4GB though. P

No tax though.

aviendha47

05-06-2007 14:56:20

[quote82685838e5="moviemadnessman"][quote82685838e5="TFOAF"]You sure you can't warn? Not like warning ever worked right anyways.[/quote82685838e5]I'm pretty sure. And warning does work, sadly. I got warn kicked 3 days ago roll[/quote82685838e5]

I can't imagine you getting warned for anything

moviemadnessman

05-06-2007 14:59:13

[quote7368f2f02d="aviendha47"][quote7368f2f02d="moviemadnessman"][quote7368f2f02d="TFOAF"]You sure you can't warn? Not like warning ever worked right anyways.[/quote7368f2f02d]I'm pretty sure. And warning does work, sadly. I got warn kicked 3 days ago roll[/quote7368f2f02d]

I can't imagine you getting warned for anything[/quote7368f2f02d]It was a disgruntled YGF user and his friends. They couldn't handle being put on hold for breaking the rules.

aviendha47

05-06-2007 15:03:29

[quote03a4bfc7f5="moviemadnessman"][quote03a4bfc7f5="aviendha47"][quote03a4bfc7f5="moviemadnessman"][quote03a4bfc7f5="TFOAF"]You sure you can't warn? Not like warning ever worked right anyways.[/quote03a4bfc7f5]I'm pretty sure. And warning does work, sadly. I got warn kicked 3 days ago roll[/quote03a4bfc7f5]

I can't imagine you getting warned for anything[/quote03a4bfc7f5]It was a disgruntled YGF user and his friends. They couldn't handle being put on hold for breaking the rules.[/quote03a4bfc7f5]

NTB roll

TryinToGetPaid

05-06-2007 15:38:55

Still I don't understand. You are buying a high end laptop to do low end things. Why not just spend around 1k and get a laptop that is more than enough to do what you want to do.

TFOAF

05-06-2007 15:42:17

Because I will game, just not at school. Plus I have a POS PC. 1.8GHz P4, AGP, 768MB of RAM. So I can barely game at home. ?

It'll basically be my PC replacement until I graduate from college, lol.

TFOAF

06-06-2007 15:50:02

Another question for dmorris68.

Will Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit recognize 4GB of RAM? I've read everywhere that it can't, even though "it can." Please explain to me what this means, or am I better off getting 3GB of RAM, because that's what it can handle.

dmorris68

06-06-2007 16:46:43

[quote864e5f2c19="TFOAF"]Another question for dmorris68.

Will Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit recognize 4GB of RAM? I've read everywhere that it can't, even though "it can." Please explain to me what this means, or am I better off getting 3GB of RAM, because that's what it can handle.[/quote864e5f2c19]
Sure it will. Even XP SP2 will recognize 4GB of RAM (if you disable virtual memory) although performance usually suffers in most applications, and a certain amount off the top will be reserved by the OS and not reported as available. This is usually where the "3GB max" idea comes from. Vista will use 4GB much more effectively, however, and in fact it has been said that 4GB is Vista's "sweet spot."

Note that 4GB is technically the maximum for ANY 32-bit OS. Through memory "windowing" tricks, 32-bit server OS's can utilize greater than 4GB, but that isn't suitable for desktop use and would really kill your performance. If you ever intended to use more than 4GB on a desktop, you'd have to move to a 64-bit OS.

Although I have to concur with others by saying that it's a waste of money. It sounds like nothing you'd be doing would get any benefit from 4GB of RAM, aside from Vista itself, and 4GB of laptop RAM is liveryli expensive. Vista ran just fine -- Aero and all -- on my 2GB systems (both a laptop and desktop).

TFOAF

06-06-2007 16:54:28

3GB it is. Now just to convince my parents that getting Vista is okay, and that it won't explode my laptop. I told my dad, and he sighed and made it seem like it was a horrible decision. It's not like I'm going to be using hardware that's not compatible with it. Plus, I'm paying for it, so why would my mom get pissed off. Because both my parents [ic6374407cc]heard[/ic6374407cc] from other people that Vista is "outright horrible" and "don't get it, nothing works."

Yet, I'm more computer literate than my mom. And well with my dad, I can get him to agree with me.

Thanks David. <3

Tholek

06-06-2007 17:07:46

Divide and conquer. Always the way...

Gooogler

06-06-2007 17:09:54

[quote6cbc7daae8="TFOAF"]You sure you can't warn? Not like warning ever worked right anyways.[/quote6cbc7daae8]

I know, it's always sucked, I think I warned someone like 3 times about 3 years ago and it hasn't worked since.

manOFice

06-06-2007 18:31:54

Wow at the price for a computer, at your age I would have done the same thing...

But now I would never spend that much on a computer.

And I don't get why your parents think vista is horrible? Are they computer geeks that know a lot about computers?

TFOAF

06-06-2007 18:34:16

[quotea5a8560813="O4F-Manofice"]Wow at the price for a computer, at your age I would have done the same thing...

But now I would never spend that much on a computer.

[ba5a8560813]And I don't get why your parents think vista is horrible? Are they computer geeks that know a lot about computers?[/ba5a8560813][/quotea5a8560813]
My dad knows a lot, not so much OS and hardware wise. My mom barely knows anything, just knows how to use Word, Excel, Publisher, and PowerPoint very well, and the basic functions of the computer. They're saying it's bad because they heard it was bad from other people.

manOFice

06-06-2007 18:49:43

Theres nothing wrong with Vista, my laptop has beening running vista for awhile now, I actually like it...only reason I went back to XP on my main rig is vista didn't run that great on it...cuz i'm due for an upgrade in a year probably.

TFOAF

07-06-2007 06:53:43

The only thing I don't like about Vista is that it won't run AIM 5.5. I still havn't brought this up to my mom, maybe I should as the laptop is on sale for $100 off.

manOFice

07-06-2007 06:55:56

Who gives a crap about Aim 5.5...the newest aim is fine.

tylerc

07-06-2007 07:49:58

Adium FTW!

ILoveToys

07-06-2007 08:53:44

[quote3d3405831b="O4F-Manofice"]Who gives a crap about Aim 5.5...the newest aim is fine.[/quote3d3405831b]

AIM itself sucks and always has. Trillian FTW

TFOAF

07-06-2007 10:36:21

Just DeadAIM + AIM 5.5 + No ads = best. D

bruman

07-06-2007 10:46:06

[quote25c930559f="TFOAF"]No, I won't drink. I don't like the taste, 'cept for Mike's Hard Lemonade, but even then, I won't care for one.[/quote25c930559f]

Most people don't drink for the taste

TFOAF

07-06-2007 11:03:36

And I'd rather be sober and have a good time then making a fool out of myself and risk tons of other things too. I find it strange that people make fun of others just because they don't drink something with alcohol in it. You can have a lot of fun other ways without alcohol, in fact you probably have more fun because you're more conscious of your surroundings.

theysayjump

07-06-2007 11:59:25

I installed Vista about a month ago on my desktop PC and I haven't used XP since. Does everything I need it to do, runs my games fine, is actually faster on my 80GB 7200RPM HDD than XP is on my 74GB 10,000RPM Raptor HDD.

Get rid of AIM and use Trillian, works great on Vista, but if you're into torrents and such, PeerGuardian does NOT work for Vista yet so keep that in mind.

dmorris68

07-06-2007 12:14:57

[quotea122681ce1="TFOAF"]And I'd rather be sober and have a good time then making a fool out of myself and risk tons of other things too. I find it strange that people make fun of others just because they don't drink something with alcohol in it. You can have a lot of fun other ways without alcohol, in fact you probably have more fun because you're more conscious of your surroundings.[/quotea122681ce1]
Wow. Good for you TFOAF. I wish more young people held that view. Not that I have anything against casual drinking, but most youth put WAAAY too much emphasis on it.

I know everybody here likes to give FOAFY hell in one way or another, but the boy spoke with wisdom in that post.

Now that said, let's stay on topic, eh? ;)

TFOAF

08-06-2007 16:54:07

OMFG.

I just smoke to my mom about the laptop...

She said, "Vista is garbage." You're going to college and you need something that works.

WTF.

Somebody, help me here. (

Tholek

08-06-2007 17:09:51

Smoke?

CollidgeGraduit

08-06-2007 17:16:00

Yeah, he's uber-pissed at her so he only talks to her with smoke signals

TFOAF

08-06-2007 17:16:43

(

She's making it seem like that the laptop is going to break if it has Vista. I don't get her logic behind that.

People who have trouble with Vista are only people with older hardware that won't support it.

theysayjump

08-06-2007 20:42:29

Dude, it's your money.

If you have the money, how can she stop you getting what you want? Just get the fucking thing and stop letting her try to dissuade you.

Tell her I told you that you can have it, and if you don't get it then you'll just give it to your crack whore.

bruman

08-06-2007 21:20:45

You're over 18, you're old enough to decide which operating system goes on your computer.

pspparty

09-06-2007 00:17:27

[quotea9354234b9="TFOAF"]I really didn't plan on gaming...it's mostly for college. The only time I'd attempt to game would be at home. I mean, I'll basically be using it for AIM, Office 2007, browsing the web...and whatnot.

Damn, I hope AIM 5.5 will work on Vista. I just have to figure out a way for my parents to let me get that Vista laptop. I mean...it's my money, so. ?

And that laptop won't function with XP, because there are no drivers for it.[/quotea9354234b9]

If this is all your doing ( not gaming ), i dont understand the need for a $2k laptop??? You can get laptops with large screens, high capacity HD and decent ram for like $5-800. aim doesnt require all those bells and whistles u are wanting LOL buy a nice hd plasma with what u save LOL

Tholek

09-06-2007 00:58:33

[quoted3c7179dfc="bruman"]You're over 18, you're old enough to decide which operating system goes on your computer.[/quoted3c7179dfc]

I can't help but picture Bill Gates having that "Big talk" with his son.

TFOAF

25-06-2007 17:06:22

Tholek, I can't thank you enough for discovering that GentechPC site. I ordered the laptop today, and it's coming with 3GB RAM, Vista Ultimate 32-bit, and a 7200RPM 120GB hard drive. That company...a man calls you to confirm your order. He asked for the last four digits of my credit card, and the 3-digit number on the back, after I gave it to him, the order was confirmed. D I got a phone call about an hour after I ordered. O

His name was Ken and he read exactly what I wanted, including the customized note. I told him I wanted it registered under my name, and if it asks for company information, to put a ). He laughed at that, and told me I should get it by next Monday, it'll ship Wednesday. D

Thank you everyone who helped me.

Tholek

25-06-2007 20:35:08

Odd how my karma hasn't increased.

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/8da47a6a788bfa3cafaca999fecc915f.gif[" alt=""/img0269a73ca1] ;)

aviendha47

25-06-2007 21:14:45

[quote3630be1fb8="Tholek"]Odd how my karma hasn't increased.

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/8da47a6a788bfa3cafaca999fecc915f.gif[" alt=""/img3630be1fb8] ;)[/quote3630be1fb8]

Fixed that )

TFOAF

28-06-2007 17:08:16

Questions.

1. Do you know if there's a spot for a secondary battery in the ASUS G1S laptop? Or if there's a battery I can purchase for the laptop which lasts longer?

2. And if there's a HDMI to DVI cable converter thing. My laptop has an HDMI port, a VGA port, but no DVI. I'd love to convert the HDMI to DVI for my sexy 19" widescreen Samsung. D

[Never mind, found the answer to question #2.]
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812189057

I'm getting my baby tomorrow. D

Daggoth

28-06-2007 17:37:45

This thread is missing a huge point if you are going to use the laptop for gaming at all, which games? If you plan on playing the latest and greatest, the laptop won't play it because those games are meant for desktops. If you plan on playing an older game like WoW, then you might as well get a dell. Try to find out what type of games you will be playing and see their recommended requirements.

Next, your battery life is going to suck if you get a gaming laptop, even if you barely use it for its purpose. This will be a huge inconvience in college.

TFOAF

28-06-2007 17:41:31

[quote242f461dd8="Daggoth"]This thread is missing a huge point if you are going to use the laptop for gaming at all, which games? If you plan on playing the latest and greatest, the laptop won't play it because those games are meant for desktops. If you plan on playing an older game like WoW, then you might as well get a dell. Try to find out what type of games you will be playing and see their recommended requirements.

Next, your battery life is going to suck if you get a gaming laptop, even if you barely use it for its purpose. This will be a huge inconvience in college.[/quote242f461dd8]
Um. You're quite wrong actually. It will play the latest games to a certain point. Maybe not at SUPER HIGH QUALITY ULTRA RESOLUTION...but it will handle it. It has the latest nVidia 8M series video card. So um, please. I've done my research. And the battery life is fine for me. I don't need 500 hours of battery life. 3 hours will suffice, which is basically what this laptop gets when watching a movie. The laptop isn't just for gaming...it was what I got with it as well as the price. Something like this from Dell would cost well over $3,000.

Back to my question in my previous post please.

Daggoth

28-06-2007 19:56:25

[quote6bd719a22d="TFOAF"][quote6bd719a22d="Daggoth"]This thread is missing a huge point if you are going to use the laptop for gaming at all, which games? If you plan on playing the latest and greatest, the laptop won't play it because those games are meant for desktops. If you plan on playing an older game like WoW, then you might as well get a dell. Try to find out what type of games you will be playing and see their recommended requirements.

Next, your battery life is going to suck if you get a gaming laptop, even if you barely use it for its purpose. This will be a huge inconvience in college.[/quote6bd719a22d]
Um. You're quite wrong actually. It will play the latest games to a certain point. Maybe not at SUPER HIGH QUALITY ULTRA RESOLUTION...but it will handle it. It has the latest nVidia 8M series video card. So um, please. I've done my research. And the battery life is fine for me. I don't need 500 hours of battery life. 3 hours will suffice, which is basically what this laptop gets when watching a movie. The laptop isn't just for gaming...it was what I got with it as well as the price. Something like this from Dell would cost well over $3,000.

Back to my question in my previous post please.[/quote6bd719a22d]

Many times companies exaggerate battery life. Chances are, it is going to be around 1.5-2.5 hrs of battery life, and half hour on decent gaming. So you would literally go to one to two classes and then need to re-charge your battery.

The latest nvidia's 8 series is really nice for desktops, but for laptops you won't be able to play games like Alan Wake or Crysis (which will be latest and greatest). And if you do, expect lots of lag or really bad settings.

Tholek

29-06-2007 12:45:37

If the optical drive is removable, then there's a good chance a drivebay battery exists. If not, then I don't know where else it could go. Extended batteries are usually bigger and stick out more, so expect that when looking.

manOFice

29-06-2007 13:08:55

On my dell core duo here at work I have an extended battery that sticks out just a bit in the front.

TFOAF

29-06-2007 15:42:06

Fucking UPS. Of course today's the day they actually deliver something in the afternoon, rather than at 630 PM at night. I was at work, and my mom was out with my sister. So they attempted to deliver the package, but no one was home, so they took it back. So my mom took me to the Customer Center where the package would be only to find out it closed 23 minutes before we got there. Now I have to wait until fucking Monday to get it and I ordered 2-day air shipping for it. Wow. (

TFOAF

03-07-2007 19:13:48

[quotee44704e9a1="Tholek"]If the optical drive is removable, then there's a good chance a drivebay battery exists. If not, then I don't know where else it could go. Extended batteries are usually bigger and stick out more, so expect that when looking.[/quotee44704e9a1]
Blaarrg. I need a battery that lasts longer. Know where I can get one for the G1S? P

Thanks.