Video card for dual monitors?

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CollidgeGraduit

14-01-2007 10:31:14

I'm using a Dell with the standard on-board video. I do no gaming whatsoever, so this has been fine. Since I got my 24" widescreen from I-Deal, I think I want to start running a dual set up.

What's a good video card for me? Like I said, the extent of what I do is web browsing, and some web design. DVI or VGA out is fine. I would like if it had an S-Video out also, but that's not a deal-breaker.

Is this doable for under $50?

mikedb

14-01-2007 11:40:53

very doable.

Assuming you PC is a few years old, it will still use the older AGP interface.

In any case, there are a plethora of options for under $50, with s-video.

I like this one- its among the cheapest, but does not have a fan, so it should be quiet.

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127181

Mike

Tholek

14-01-2007 12:01:20

I've got a eVGA 6200, which often sells for around $50. Nice for the price.

CollidgeGraduit

14-01-2007 12:34:02

It's probably about 2 years old, so I'm not sure if that means it would still have an AGP interface. I got it from the Freepay (Gratis, at the time) desktop computer site.

dudeextrem2000

14-01-2007 13:01:30

do you want dual vga or dvi monitors?

edit nm i just re read your post...


which one of these connectors look like your slot?

http//www.edvblogger.de/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/pic-agp-pcie-cards.jpg

and here are some good deals on various cards

.(AGP).

Diamond S120 Radeon 9550 / 256MB DDR / AGP 8x / DVI / VGA / TV Out ($39.99)
http//www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145957&CatId=0

PNY Verto GeForce 5200 / 256MB DDR / AGP 8x / Dual VGA / TV Out ($54.99)
http//www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2148784&CatId=0


.(PCI-E).

HIS Radeon X300SE HyperMemory / 128MB DDR / Supporting 512MB with Hypermemory / PCI Express / DVI / VGA / TV Out ($44.99)
http//www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2448031&CatId=0

Connect3D Radeon X300se / 128MB DDR / PCI Express / VGA / DVI / TV Out / Video Card with FREE Tenomichi Editing Software - a $50 USD Value ($49.99)
http//www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086167&CatId=0

Hope that helps...

CollidgeGraduit

15-01-2007 11:07:12

Thanks for the help, everyone D

Now I can sell my Mac Mini, so I can use my PC for video streaming instead.

CollidgeGraduit

17-01-2007 11:45:30

When I get home tonight, I'll take a picture of the inside of my PC. Would someone mind identifying for me what kind of slot I have?

Also, will I need to disable my onboard video, once I get the new card installed?

Tholek

17-01-2007 12:16:26

Post your mobo (or pc) model number. A Google will then reveal the slot type. (Likely still AGP)

I'm unsure if you need to disable on board video in the BIOS. When I insert a AGP card into my old Gateway, it just recognizes it as the display adapter, and disables the on board one automatically. I think I had to set it manually for old PCI video cards (non-express).

CollidgeGraduit

17-01-2007 12:18:25

[quoteee8775fd5d="Tholek"]Post your mobo (or pc) model number. A Google will then reveal the slot type. (Likely still AGP)

I'm unsure if you need to disable on board video in the BIOS. When I insert a AGP card into my old Gateway, it just recognizes it as the display adapter, and disables the on board one automatically. I think I had to set it manually for old PCI video cards (non-express).[/quoteee8775fd5d]

It's a Dell Dimension from the FreeDesktopPCs site, received about 2 years ago. Does that help? ?

Tholek

17-01-2007 12:28:49

Mrrph. They updated that a couple of times. Can you read the number on the front or back?

CollidgeGraduit

17-01-2007 13:14:01

It's a Dimension 4700

Tholek

17-01-2007 13:40:35

http//reviews.cnet.com/Dell_Dimension_4700_for_Home/4505-3118_7-31292625.html

It's PCI-E, apparently, although "4700" is more of a "series" model number. The number on the back is probably more specific.

CollidgeGraduit

17-01-2007 13:56:37

I'm burning a DVD right now, but once it's done, I'll turn the case around and see what the number is.

In the meantime, can someone direct me to some decent PCI-E cards that match what I'm looking for? The two that dudeextrem2000 recommended are unavailable for purchase now (

doylnea

17-01-2007 13:56:39

[quote973836cfd6="Tholek"]http//reviews.cnet.com/Dell_Dimension_4700_for_Home/4505-3118_7-31292625.html

It's PCI-E, apparently, although "4700" is more of a "series" model number. The number on the back is probably more specific.[/quote973836cfd6]

The 4700 is PCI-e, I'm using one as a HTPC and have the stock ATI x300 in there, which supports dual monitors I think (DVI and VGA).

CollidgeGraduit

17-01-2007 13:57:54

Well, I'm no longer going to run dualies. I just want something with DVI, and S-video out.

As a side note - is it possible to have my video going through my DVI and S-video out at the same time? I imagine having a widescreen monitor would cause a problem.

doylnea

17-01-2007 14:07:19

The x300 (which costs about $10 on eBay these days) supports both DVI and S-Video. If you're not gaming, I can't imagine you'd a more expensive card. I have no idea, however, whether it will support simultaneous outputs.

dmorris68

17-01-2007 14:10:58

Nvidia cards will usually support output via both TV and PC outputs simultaneously -- at least it seems to be pretty common on Linux with people using them for MythTV cards. I haven't tried on a Windows PC to see if the drivers support it, but they probably do.

CollidgeGraduit

17-01-2007 19:03:19

Clarifications..

I'm now looking for a video card that can drive two separate monitors at once - one being my TV (via S-video output), and the other being my actual widescreen monitor.

I want to use my current desktop PC for streaming video once and a while - certainly not enough to get a dedicated HTPC, but enough that it's worth spending money on a video card to make it easy.

Can someone point me towards some models of video cards that will do this for me? Or better yet, am I going down the wrong path? What would be the best way to accomplish my goal?

I want to play videos on my TV, but still be able to use my regular monitor at the same time.

CollidgeGraduit

18-01-2007 05:21:23

After doing some reading and thinking..

What if I have two video cards in my system - one driving the S-video output, the other driving the VGI/DVI output. Could I then have output sent to both my TV and widescreen monitor simultaneously?

Do video cards exist that do output to DVI and S-video simultaneously, with different resolutions on each? Sorry for all the questions, but it seems the more I read up on it, the more confused I get.

dmorris68

18-01-2007 05:35:33

Yes, Nvidia cards support the TV-Out as a secondary display, so they can run independent resolutions just like a 2nd monitor. However if you have a card with dual VGA/DVI outputs and a TV-Out, you have to choose between either the TV-Out or 2nd PC connection for the secondary display -- you can't have 3 outputs from one card.

I can't speak to the ATI cards because I've not tried to use one for dual-display.

CollidgeGraduit

18-01-2007 05:47:34

[quote592ff7c09e="dmorris68"]Yes, Nvidia cards support the TV-Out as a secondary display, so they can run independent resolutions just like a 2nd monitor. However if you have a card with dual VGA/DVI outputs and a TV-Out, you have to choose between either the TV-Out or 2nd PC connection for the secondary display -- you can't have 3 outputs from one card.

I can't speak to the ATI cards because I've not tried to use one for dual-display.[/quote592ff7c09e]

Perfect, thanks so much for your help. I want to have the DVI running to my monitor, and S-video to the TV -- no need to use the 3rd connection.

Got any recommendations on a specific Nvidia card? I've been on the Nvidia site this morning, and I'm not sure what will meet my needs without being overkill.

dmorris68

18-01-2007 05:53:41

If you're not into much gaming, you should be able to find a cheap (<$50) 6200 card that should fit the bill nicely. I have an MSI 6200AX AGP in my MythTV box that does HDTV component out as well as Svideo and composite, and I think I paid $60 for it a year ago.

Newegg has a selection of 6200's[=http//www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?SrchInDesc=6200&Page=1&Category=38&N=2010380048+106790703&Submit=ENE&Nty=1&Subcategory=48]selection of 6200's in both AGP and PCIe for under $40.

If you wanted to support some semi-serious gaming, you could step up to a 6600/6800 card for $20-$40 more.

Tholek

18-01-2007 06:10:47

I love my 6200. I'm a light gamer, and it does me fine. No noise either. (Fanless)

CollidgeGraduit

18-01-2007 07:04:01

Any thoughts on this card?

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814141034

Would I see a noticeable difference between S-video and Component, seeing as it's going to just be on a Standard Def TV?

Tholek

18-01-2007 07:41:57

I forgot to bring this up earlier, but are there some issues with cards that use a ribbon cable to connect to the second port? I thought I read something about that. It was one of the reasons I got the eVGA one.

CollidgeGraduit

18-01-2007 09:39:31

Tholek - assuming I use the DVI and S-Video ports on the card that I just linked to, would I be alright?

Just when I thought I knew what card I wanted, you throw a monkey wrench into it ;)

Tholek

18-01-2007 15:46:50

Assuming what I raised is an actual known issue, then I think you'd still be ok. I'm not 100% certain that it [i8f08991632]is[/i8f08991632] an issue, though. It was just something I read when shopping for my own 6200.

I was really hoping the oracle, I mean dmorris, would have posted by now with the answer. ;)

dmorris68

18-01-2007 16:31:15

I've had cards with the ribbon cables connecting the 2nd connector, and never had a problem. In fact I think the 6200 in my HTPC is like that. Of course if you're not using the 2nd DVI connector then it wouldn't be an issue anyway.

CollidgeGraduit

18-01-2007 19:23:47

Thanks for all your help and patience, everybody. I ordered my video card. Here's hoping the rest is easy ;)