Credit not being issued.

I have tried three time to be credited for offers that I invested more money into than i will be paid just because I realy wanted the offers.
i have waited 11 days, More than the required 7, I have followed all directions from the site and provided full headers every time.
and still I get denied credit saying I need to wait 7 days and provied full headers. I just dont understand why this site is doing this.
I am a long time experienced trader providing greens and referals alike. i made many payouts in my time and I have to say that this is the most trouble that I have had with a site.
i am convinced that this site is taking me for what I gave.
I think it is very pitifull to do that to a person who honestly gave his services.
BAD SITE!

Crediting is not the sites fault for the MILLIONTH TIME!

You probably don't know what full headers / footers means...I see you're using yahoo, you have to hit the FULL HEADERS at the bottom right corner.
Headers/footers include the IP addresses.

Be sure to search next time before flaming a site owner for something that isn't even their fault.
Offer crediting is not the site owners fault, and the only way they can give you a green is if they get paid from their affiliates. And for the affiliates to manually process your request, they need FULL headers.

Ps Full headers normally would look like this[quotec731587abe]
X-Apparently-To email==samz465@yahoo.comsamz465@yahoo.com=samz465@yahoo.comsamz465@yahoo.com/email via 216.252.111.128; Tue, 01 May 2007 043633 -0700
X-YahooFilteredBulk 201.32.239.114
X-Originating-IP [201.32.239.114]
Return-Path <lcastroooih>
Authentication-Results mta543.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=videoarchives.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received from 201.32.239.114 (HELO 20132239114.user.veloxzone.com.br) (201.32.239.114) by mta543.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 01 May 2007 043633 -0700
Date Tue, 11 Sep 2007 063751 -0500
From "Maryellen Paulson" <lcastroooih> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Reply-to Maryellen Paulson <lcastroooih>
Message-ID <349891274894>
To "Samz465" <samz465>
Subject Alexis
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type multipart/related; boundary="------------71FFAB0B.CEE2AC06"
Content-Length 7112[/quotec731587abe]

THEN the body of the paragraph begins.

I do know what full headers are and I do just that to get them. As I stated before I am experienced in this stuff and I do know what I'm talking about.. What els do you want?

[quote81c6b580fa="rolloffdvr"]I do know what full headers are and I do just that to get them. As I stated before I am experienced in this stuff and I do know what I'm talking about.. What els do you want?[/quote81c6b580fa]
Did you try talking directly to the admin over aim?
He's usually on during the day.

-Samad

I send a direct e-mail thursday night and still have no response. i don't have the time to babbyset the computer for a message that I won't recieve. i have a life that includes a famly.

just to prove my point, This is a full header.

From Gottaplay Wed May 2 155053 2007
Return-Path <anonymous>
Authentication-Results mta462.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=gottaplay.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received from 82.165.253.116 (EHLO u15224702.onlinehome-server.com) (82.165.253.116)
by mta462.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 02 May 2007 165535 -0700
Received (qmail 14048 invoked by uid 48); 2 May 2007 185053 -0400
Date 2 May 2007 185053 -0400
Message-ID <20070502225053>
To email==rolloffdvr22@yahoo.comrolloffdvr22@yahoo.com=rolloffdvr22@yahoo.comrolloffdvr22@yahoo.com/email
Subject Welcome to Gottaplay!
From Gottaplay <welcome>
Reply-To Gottaplay <welcome>
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type multipart/mixed; boundary=4FDBEF3D84F569BAF003184C349FB56C
Content-Length 3286

It is something that depends on the affiliates. Some take up to a month to look into manual credits ... and it sounds like you were denied, but that's not within the site's control.

Also ... I think Gottaplay is one of those offers that doesn't credit very well to begin with. They had a huge problem a while back ... it was a big security issue.

Well that don't make sense to me when it is the site who denied me.
i have all the proof that I need that showes I did the offers, Who else could it be?

they have to get verification from the affiliates. You can have all the emails in the world and the AFFILITE can deny you. The site really has nothing to do with it.

Lol... if that's the case, then what is the purpos of "the site" in the first place?

roll

He's got a point. What's the sense of submitting a manual credit request after waiting the appropiate amount of time and submitting the right materials only to be denied? I've sent the admin an email a while back and I never got a response and he's hardly ever on AIM. The crediting issue really needs to be adjusted somehow. I have a referral who has waited the "1-3 days" the site says for one of the offers and still has not received credit.

They can't "pay" you unless they get paid. Some affiliates only do that every 30 days - usually on the 15th.

Does that make any sense?

Sorry I was snarky earlier btw

Yea that makes sense, But they dont have to deny the credit if that is the case.

If the affiliate denies it, then they have to deny it.

So then tell me, after one does all that is required of. and does the work for the pourpose of making money. and followed all directions.
How does one get the credits one deserves?

What Tinkerjenn/Samz have been telling you are correct. All we can do is keep pushing the affiliate to credit it. If they cant, we cant.

You just have to have faith in the system and be patient...Not everything is 123.

Unless of course you're dealing with 123stuffforfree...in that case it IS 123.

You've done the right things, it's just up to the affiliates to approve or deny credits. You can't blame the site owners, they are businesses and there to make money, too.

Maybe I should send an e-mail to the affiliates.

[quote610cdfbd42="rolloffdvr"]Maybe I should send an e-mail to the affiliates.[/quote610cdfbd42]

If you would like to, you can. It wouldn't help at all since there is many other info they would need to know besides your confirmation e-mail and referral link

[quote0a999a7a46="tinkerjenn"]You've done the right things, it's just up to the affiliates to approve or deny credits. You can't blame the site owners, they are businesses and there to make money, too.[/quote0a999a7a46]

Thank you for informing me of that. If people were told that when they get refused in the first place, then maybe there would be less upset people. Insted of replying with the same message over and over again. That makes them feel like they are the screw ups.

[quotedb07eb3e79="rolloffdvr"][quotedb07eb3e79="tinkerjenn"]You've done the right things, it's just up to the affiliates to approve or deny credits. You can't blame the site owners, they are businesses and there to make money, too.[/quotedb07eb3e79]

Thank you for informing me of that. If people were told that when they get refused in the first place, then maybe there would be less upset people. Insted of replying with the same message over and over again. That makes them feel like they are the screw ups.[/quotedb07eb3e79]

When you send in a credit ticket it is not a support message to us. We change the status of it and it sends you the message on what that status means. Our script does not support a custom response. If you would like to inquire about your credit request you can ask us or send in a support ticket.

Ok I wrote a letter to both of the creditors and the following is a reply from the first one, Still waiting on the second.
( I FIND THIS VERY INTERESTING.)

Ron-



Unfortunately, it does not appear that the site below is in our network. If you’d like to cancel your subscription, I can refund you the purchase price. Please let me know what you’d like to do.



I apologize for the confusion.



Thank you,

Christy

email==christy@valuemags.comchristy@valuemags.com=christy@valuemags.comchristy@valuemags.com/email


I wonder how that could be when I accested the offer from this site. ?

[quote65dc06374b="rolloffdvr"]Ok I wrote a letter to both of the creditors and the following is a reply from the first one, Still waiting on the second.
( I FIND THIS VERY INTERESTING.)

Ron-



Unfortunately, it does not appear that the site below is in our network. If you’d like to cancel your subscription, I can refund you the purchase price. Please let me know what you’d like to do.



I apologize for the confusion.



Thank you,

Christy

email==christy@valuemags.comchristy@valuemags.com=christy@valuemags.comchristy@valuemags.com/email


I wonder how that could be when I accested the offer from this site. ?[/quote65dc06374b]

We are not directly connected to them, the affiliate is. That is who we go through.

Ok, here is the other reply from the second offer that I did.
I finde this even more intresting due to the comments that were made earler in this post.

Dear Ron,



Our system reports all qualifying signups to our affiliates automatically. Since our affiliates are entirely separate companies, we do not have any involvement in how they process your accounts in their systems and are unable to make any adjustments to your accounts with them in any way. If you have not yet received your credit from the affiliate, please contact them directly to request that they resolve this issue for you.



If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.



~J

GottaPlay, Inc.

Customer Service Rep.

phone 866.348.2800

http//www.GottaPlay.com

Just as the person in the GottaPlay email said, you need to contact the affiliate to find out what happened to the credit, but even then I doubt anything would happen since I've never heard of affiliates deal directly with their clients users...

LoL... Notice that both parties use the word "affiliate"
Just how many "affiliates" are there?
And just how do we concact the "affiliates"
The "affiliates" seem to be invisable.
I think that "affiliate" is just used to shove off the falt, whitch means no one it going to admit to the problem.
Obviously I am being screwed here, and I don't think it is from the offers that I did.
My conclusion is that this site sucks, and I don't recomend it to anyone.
(Except to those that I don't like of corse) LoL... lol

Actually, an "affiliate" is a third party company who's job it is to credit all offers which you complete.

You complete an offer, then our affiliate credits the offer, and we credit you. Without a credit from our affiliate, we do not get paid, if we do not get paid, we cannot pay you. If you haven't received credit from us, that means we have yet to receive credit from our affiliate (who hosts the offers which our users complete).

In other words, we haven't been able to pay you, because we ourselves haven't been compensated yet for the offers you have done.

And, for the record, CPA Empire, Hydra Network, AzoogleAds, and Commission Junction are just a few of the affiliates we use; they aren't invisible.

We're not trying to screw you rolloffdvr. Please PM me on FiPG your user ID, the site you did the offers, the date you did the offers, and the actual offers you completed, and I'll look into the matter personally.

rolloffdvr, I think you need to take off your tinfoil hat, there's no conspiracy here. Crediting for offers is an automated process. Computers are all 1s and 0s, and try as programmers may, there's no accounting for every variable out there (web browsers, security settings, etc), and somethings things just don't line up perfectly. Then, it's up to the humans to try to manually sort things out as best they can. As far as I can tell, YGF is doing a nice job doing what he can to help.

It's pretty simple though. You do an offer. The company pays the affiliate network for the lead. The affiliate network in turn pays YGF. A company doesn't want to work with all of the sites they advertise with, so they go through an afilliate network to broker the deals.

Please be patient and drop the conspiracy theory - YGF has always been helpful, and no, I've never done one of his sites, so I'm not biased. I just know that as a mod, if he were screwing people over, I would get 5 million whiny PMs about it.