Official Brandarama Questions Thread

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=69840

manOFice

28-09-2007 07:03:46

I think we would all benefit from a sticky for Brandarama questions/info only thread just like we have for ideal, nt, yfd etc. ??

RolltheStampede

28-09-2007 07:05:50

I agree

manOFice

28-09-2007 07:10:24

I have a question

Which Brandarama sites are the quickest?? from start to finish, i'm under the impression some take like 2 months while others take like 5??

I don't need links but example, i'm looking for say answer of 3 offer best buy card, etc

DRay9911

28-09-2007 07:37:40

it probably goes by number of offers/value of item.

for the $500 amex card, it was 3 months
for the $1,000 card, it looks like 4

my sister signed up for similac/infomil (or another type of baby formula). it was only 2 offers and they processed her confirmation forms on 09/10. i'm hoping she receives those soon. note she didn't tell me she signed up until AFTER she was done.

-dan

RolltheStampede

28-09-2007 08:29:06

i think it goes by the type of card.
for ex. a sears card would ship faster than a amex which also ships faster than a visa.

I would guess
Retail Cards Bestbuy, Sears, Lowes, etc - 2-3 months
Amex Cards - 3- 4 months
Visa Gift Cards - 4-5 Months

i have some gifts confirmed though out august so i should know some thing in a few months. This is wha ti have gathered from other peoples experiences and timelines

so if you want fast i would think try a homedepot card

manOFice

28-09-2007 08:46:06

[quotecca2b01dc6="RolltheStampede"]i think it goes by the type of card.
for ex. a sears card would ship faster than a amex which also ships faster than a visa.

I would guess
Retail Cards Bestbuy, Sears, Lowes, etc - 2-3 months
Amex Cards - 3- 4 months
Visa Gift Cards - 4-5 Months

i have some gifts confirmed though out august so i should know some thing in a few months. This is wha ti have gathered from other peoples experiences and timelines

so if you want fast i would think try a homedepot card[/quotecca2b01dc6]

Thats what I was looking for.

Anyone have an issues with crediting lately?

RolltheStampede

28-09-2007 08:52:59

just random offers, they seem to credit on friday or saturday i will know what doesnt credit on monday. Seems the ones that credit well they take away . i did the rockstar shirts and it credited on a last page but they took it away.

07

28-09-2007 14:25:07

I did Hockey, Critics Choice, and Privacy Matters on Thursday, on friday, (1 day) they all confirmed. )

slambam

28-09-2007 23:24:11

[quotef842f0d5db="manOFice"]
Thats what I was looking for.

Anyone have an issues with crediting lately?[/quotef842f0d5db]

I just did the 3 offer $500 AMEX, all offers credited on 3rd day, pretty good.

batgirl

29-09-2007 04:17:02

Can we do more than one Brandarama site at once? I know we can do more than one but I wanted to know if you can do 2-3 at the same time.

kingsmoit

29-09-2007 07:18:30

I've done multiple at once. They seem to be changing a few rules, but they never cared about that in the past.

kidd2108

29-09-2007 09:20:32

How about this one, can you do 2 $500 amex cards(or any similar gift) from 2 different sites?

ILoveToys

29-09-2007 09:43:48

No...You aren't supposed to do the same offer even if it is on two different sites. For example you can't do the RP grocery 500 amex and the trusted rewards grocery 500 amex, b/c they're the same offer really.

manOFice

29-09-2007 10:28:37

[quote7665826e8b="ILoveToys"]No...You aren't supposed to do the same offer even if it is on two different sites. For example you can't do the RP grocery 500 amex and the trusted rewards grocery 500 amex, b/c they're the same offer really.[/quote7665826e8b]

Thats lame...

RolltheStampede

29-09-2007 10:56:24

ask them yourself i have heard conflicting resposes frm cs

connorBC20

29-09-2007 14:00:42

hey I have a $500 BB GC 3 offers but PM me for it.
yourtopbrands

batgirl

29-09-2007 14:15:53

For those of you who have done more than one Brandarama site, do you use the same email address for all sites or do you have different ones? Just curious because of the offers mix up when people use the same email across sites.

07

29-09-2007 15:37:20

[quote9943ab4e2e="ILoveToys"]No...You aren't supposed to do the same offer even if it is on two different sites. For example you can't do the RP grocery 500 amex and the trusted rewards grocery 500 amex, b/c they're the same offer really.[/quote9943ab4e2e]

Bullshit, already done them, AND received them.
On top of that. CS told me I could. Ive received 3 500 Amex's so far. Different sites but same design.

justinag06

29-09-2007 16:07:55

[quoteddf2d19353="batgirl"]For those of you who have done more than one Brandarama site, do you use the same email address for all sites or do you have different ones? Just curious because of the offers mix up when people use the same email across sites.[/quoteddf2d19353]

either/or they really don't care about this

ILoveToys

29-09-2007 20:33:50

You say BS 07, but I've heard recently that you can't do them from CS, so whatever.....I just don't see the point on wasting offers.

bennyboy5768

29-09-2007 20:40:12

Anyone having a problem with Privacy Matters saying to 'Check your card number" and charging you the $1.00 anyway?

ILoveToys

29-09-2007 20:43:52

If the charge was denied, it will go back onto the card in a day or 2...Don't worry.

joeofhells

29-09-2007 21:29:38

[quote864d7c2271="manOFice"]I have a question

Which Brandarama sites are the quickest?? from start to finish, i'm under the impression some take like 2 months while others take like 5??

I don't need links but example, i'm looking for say answer of 3 offer best buy card, etc[/quote864d7c2271]


I did the Rewards Parade 500 AMEX (Free groceries offer) that got confirmed to ship on 7-18.
I also did the YTB 500 AMEX (Free Airplane Ticket)that got confirmed on 8-15. And, I got the YTB 500 AMEX yesterday.


Lol, I really don't know how the hell I pulled that one off. Though, out of the two, that was the only one that had all my page offers as "offers complete!"

MY RP STATUS

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MY YTB STATUS

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Note the signup times. Yeah, I'm confused. Don't know why this happened. Don't really want to ask questions either

07

01-10-2007 09:17:53

[quotebb0a3f3e77="ILoveToys"]You say BS 07, but I've heard recently that you can't do them from CS, so whatever.....I just don't see the point on wasting offers.[/quotebb0a3f3e77]

From that guys one post? I think he was confused... I read over that thread a few times.

I just did another Amex... no problems. Went confirmed friday.

jasonatsmtc

01-10-2007 09:41:36

[quote93290cd4a2="bennyboy5768"]Anyone having a problem with Privacy Matters saying to 'Check your card number" and charging you the $1.00 anyway?[/quote93290cd4a2]

I have seen that before and even with the error, they signed me up and I got credit, so you will still want to make sure you dont get charges.

ghounds07

01-10-2007 12:12:15

Gabamed doesn't credit.

RolltheStampede

01-10-2007 12:59:12

i have not heard of anyone gettign credit for gabamed, i dont even think you can do it now anyways

beerman

01-10-2007 13:08:32

[quote2f873e9e1a="RolltheStampede"]i have not heard of anyone gettign credit for gabamed, i dont even think you can do it now anyways[/quote2f873e9e1a]

I have got credit for gabamed, but it was for an i-deal site.

RolltheStampede

01-10-2007 13:22:52

well on brandarama atleast

chewy

01-10-2007 13:28:44

no credit for me on topshelfbrands.net (

07

01-10-2007 13:48:41

No credit for Gabamed here either.

fbskiracer

04-10-2007 08:59:39

Can you complete the same credit across different networks/sites?

i.e. privacy matters for RP and TSB? or for that matter brandaram vs Ideal

zr2152

04-10-2007 09:04:34

[quote2459e0cf02="fbskiracer"]Can you complete the same credit across different networks/sites?

i.e. privacy matters for RP and TSB? or for that matter brandaram vs Ideal[/quote2459e0cf02]

No, you are not supposed to do the same offer twice. That is fraud.

beerman

05-10-2007 06:50:32

anyone have anything credit today? I was expecting a few things, but nothing today (

manOFice

05-10-2007 07:16:59

Should be a sticky .......

RolltheStampede

05-10-2007 08:19:10

[quotefc16cb0a1f="beerman1976"]anyone have anything credit today? I was expecting a few things, but nothing today ([/quotefc16cb0a1f]

credits usually dont show up till after 12 noon pacific give it some time its still 8 am here.

x2 this should be stickied

tylerc

05-10-2007 08:47:57

[quote25d964f36f="RolltheStampede"][quote25d964f36f="beerman1976"]anyone have anything credit today? I was expecting a few things, but nothing today ([/quote25d964f36f]

credits usually dont show up till after 12 noon pacific give it some time its still 8 am here.

x2 this should be stickied[/quote25d964f36f]

x3, I'll post when my offers (hopefully) go through today for my other 2 HHSC offers. The Good Cook and Purity Mineral Make Up both went through already.

dmorris68

05-10-2007 10:21:47

Well, I can sticky it, but I hope you realize that sticky posts are rarely read.

manOFice

05-10-2007 11:55:15

[quote540a6de0aa="dmorris68"]Well, I can sticky it, but I hope you realize that sticky posts are rarely read.[/quote540a6de0aa]

Nice! )

ghounds07

05-10-2007 12:13:26

anyone receive credit for their offers? Did a 3 offer site 2 days ago, 0 credits (

zr2152

05-10-2007 12:14:44

[quoteeccc7a3c0b="manOFice"][quoteeccc7a3c0b="dmorris68"]Well, I can sticky it, but I hope you realize that sticky posts are rarely read.[/quoteeccc7a3c0b]

Nice! )[/quoteeccc7a3c0b]

I think you just wanted a sticky so that you could feel good about yourself.

manOFice

05-10-2007 12:16:38

[quoteeaa75e6fe0="zr2152"][quoteeaa75e6fe0="manOFice"][quoteeaa75e6fe0="dmorris68"]Well, I can sticky it, but I hope you realize that sticky posts are rarely read.[/quoteeaa75e6fe0]

Nice! )[/quoteeaa75e6fe0]

I think you just wanted a sticky so that you could feel good about yourself.[/quoteeaa75e6fe0]

Way to down my friday (

beerman

05-10-2007 12:25:04

[quoteca4462fd9c="ghounds07"]anyone receive credit for their offers? Did a 3 offer site 2 days ago, 0 credits ([/quoteca4462fd9c]

3pm has come and gone and no credits for me.... ?

linglingfool

05-10-2007 12:28:56

Same here. I'm hoping they'll still credit today, because I'm hoping to get the redemption paperwork in next week.

RolltheStampede

05-10-2007 12:30:43

give it till monday till you start complaining the earlist i have gotten credit on friday was noon the latest was sometime in the weekend

RolltheStampede

05-10-2007 12:51:09

[quote14fa22cf79="manOFice"][quote14fa22cf79="zr2152"][quote14fa22cf79="manOFice"][quote14fa22cf79="dmorris68"]Well, I can sticky it, but I hope you realize that sticky posts are rarely read.[/quote14fa22cf79]

Nice! )[/quote14fa22cf79]

I think you just wanted a sticky so that you could feel good about yourself.[/quote14fa22cf79]

Way to down my friday ([/quote14fa22cf79]

I think it needs an Official in front of it. P

manOFice

05-10-2007 13:06:16

[quote2969e3dfa6="RolltheStampede"][quote2969e3dfa6="manOFice"][quote2969e3dfa6="zr2152"][quote2969e3dfa6="manOFice"][quote2969e3dfa6="dmorris68"]Well, I can sticky it, but I hope you realize that sticky posts are rarely read.[/quote2969e3dfa6]

Nice! )[/quote2969e3dfa6]

I think you just wanted a sticky so that you could feel good about yourself.[/quote2969e3dfa6]

Way to down my friday ([/quote2969e3dfa6]

I think it needs an Official in front of it. P[/quote2969e3dfa6]

wink wink

zr2152

05-10-2007 14:36:19

[quote1e65dd632b="RolltheStampede"]give it till monday till you start complaining the earlist i have gotten credit on friday was noon the latest was sometime in the weekend[/quote1e65dd632b]

Yeah I had a few offers credit on monday one time. )

tylerc

05-10-2007 16:07:20

I got credit for another offer today for HouseHoldSavingsClub, so I'm 3/4. Waiting on Zooba to credit, but I hear that can take like 3 weeks.

beerman

05-10-2007 18:37:36

[quote017832bfc4="tylerc"]I got credit for another offer today for HouseHoldSavingsClub, so I'm 3/4. Waiting on Zooba to credit, but I hear that can take like 3 weeks.[/quote017832bfc4]

I went 3/3 tonight on HHSC after doing the offers last night....sweet! Sending in forms tomorrow.

linglingfool

05-10-2007 22:41:43

I got 1/5 on Tuesday and the other 4/5 today! Hopefully the iPod ACTUALLY ships within the 4-6 weeks, so I can get it by Christmas.

kidd2108

05-10-2007 22:52:14

[quoteeb10f7c548="linglingfool"]I got 1/5 on Tuesday and the other 4/5 today! Hopefully the iPod ACTUALLY ships within the 4-6 weeks, so I can get it by Christmas.[/quoteeb10f7c548]

sorry, but no on the 4-6 weeks. More like double.

linglingfool

05-10-2007 23:10:11

[quote9ddb6f18e5="kidd2108"][quote9ddb6f18e5="linglingfool"]I got 1/5 on Tuesday and the other 4/5 today! Hopefully the iPod ACTUALLY ships within the 4-6 weeks, so I can get it by Christmas.[/quote9ddb6f18e5]

sorry, but no on the 4-6 weeks. More like double.[/quote9ddb6f18e5]

That's what I figured. Christmas is a little over 11 weeks from today, so I'm still holding out hope I'll get it before then.

On another note, can you access your member status page? After I printed my confirmation form, I'm getting an error that says "Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)".

maverik

06-10-2007 03:09:02

[quote3968a67204="linglingfool"]That's what I figured. Christmas is a little over 11 weeks from today, so I'm still holding out hope I'll get it before then.

On another note, can you access your member status page? After I printed my confirmation form, I'm getting an error that says "Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)".[/quote3968a67204]

Whatever the site is, (i.e., brandarama.com / trustedrewards.com etc.) sign up for another gift promotion. It really doesn't matter what the promotion is, just sign up for a gift on the same site/domain with the same email address & personal info. After signing up, you then can log back into your account. It seems to act like a reset button for your account when you encounter those type of glitches.

Swat1

06-10-2007 04:17:56

For the nordstrom and tiffany's brandarama sites; does anyone know how long the wait is after you are confirmed to ship? Please dont tell me Brandarama usually ships in...only the details of these particular gifts. Like the 1000 visa from brandarama is 4 month wait because june has just shipped. so what i'm asking is, how many month is the backlog for these gifts?

Thank you

giovannip811

06-10-2007 09:57:20

has anyone ever done the ipod touch one from wholesomerewards.com
have you ever recieved an ipod touch from it, im working on it. i can smell the ipod touch.

dmorris68

06-10-2007 10:04:52

[quote849bf7759a="giovannip811"]has anyone ever done the iPod touch one from wholesomerewards.com
have you ever recieved an iPod touch from it, im working on it. i can smell the iPod touch.[/quote849bf7759a]
First of all, never heard of the place. Second, the Touch just came out, what, a month ago? It's virtually unheard of for a DIY site to be completed and the product shipped and received in that time. Expect 6-8 weeks for the fastest DIY sites, 4-12 [b849bf7759a]months[/b849bf7759a] for the slowest.

ghounds07

06-10-2007 13:20:25

0 credits on my 3 offer site, anyone else receive no credit yet?

linglingfool

07-10-2007 15:46:30

[quote5daa100c35="maverik"][quote5daa100c35="linglingfool"]That's what I figured. Christmas is a little over 11 weeks from today, so I'm still holding out hope I'll get it before then.

On another note, can you access your member status page? After I printed my confirmation form, I'm getting an error that says "Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)".[/quote5daa100c35]

Whatever the site is, (i.e., brandarama.com / trustedrewards.com etc.) sign up for another gift promotion. It really doesn't matter what the promotion is, just sign up for a gift on the same site/domain with the same email address & personal info. After signing up, you then can log back into your account. It seems to act like a reset button for your account when you encounter those type of glitches.[/quote5daa100c35]

Perfect. Thanks!

giovannip811

07-10-2007 19:55:55

i completed all the offers for the ipod touch and it was so cheap, less than 13 bucks. only 5 offers, got credited for 3 already.

ILoveToys

08-10-2007 13:20:12

[quote73c7240ac7="giovannip811"]i completed all the offers for the iPod touch and it was so cheap, less than 13 bucks. only 5 offers, got credited for 3 already.[/quote73c7240ac7]

What's the link?

mistertomlinson

08-10-2007 15:01:29

Does anyone know if Brandarama allows you to complete more than one Scholastic book offer? I know I Deal does... not sure if Brandarama does. I ask because I completed 2 scholastic offers at the same time and just received credit for ONE of them today. Thanks for any help.

06pontiac

08-10-2007 17:31:02

Scholastic sucks.

giovannip811

08-10-2007 19:54:54

this is the link to the ipod touch offer
www.wholesomerewards.com/MUyz061dd8639

manOFice

09-10-2007 07:25:43

Anyone know the turn around for actual gifts not just giftcards?

RolltheStampede

09-10-2007 07:29:30

dont think its any faster than anything else 3 months?

manOFice

09-10-2007 10:34:48

Do you receive an email when an offer credits?

RolltheStampede

09-10-2007 11:18:53

no, i don tthink anyone sends an email when an offer credits, just have to keep checking most offers if not instant credit on friday

manOFice

09-10-2007 11:21:27

[quote9b9c761359="RolltheStampede"]no, i don tthink anyone sends an email when an offer credits, just have to keep checking most offers if not instant credit on friday[/quote9b9c761359]

I just did two sites, but didn't expect any of the offers to be instant so I look foward to this weekend.

this will be my first experience with this company, hopefully it's a smooth one.

06pontiac

09-10-2007 12:20:40

You've never done Brandarama before?? You've been in this how long? lol.

manOFice

09-10-2007 12:55:38

[quote226b73d5c7="06pontiac"]You've never done Brandarama before?? You've been in this how long? lol.[/quote226b73d5c7]
I don't like change and I don't like to wait, but i was sick of seeing so much success and me getting nothing, HAHA

Just finished the 500 bestbuy site too.

I just read like 30 pages of brandarama threads.

I THINK I read somewhere the following... correct me if i'm wrong

I can sign up for 1k card on my computer, my household and my wife can also sign up for the 1k card on my computer and my household.. seeing we live togather?!

06pontiac

09-10-2007 12:59:26

I'm not sure on that. I think as long as they are different social security numbers and you do different offers it shouldn't be a problem.

manOFice

09-10-2007 17:28:29

I did an offer and it was pending... but now it's gone from my click history.....

ghounds07

09-10-2007 17:29:46

2 of my 3 offers credited today, weird since its a tuesday...still waiting on great fun which was supposed to take 1-5 days (did all offers last thursday). Weird since the 2 offers that credited were 1-7 days...hmm

manOFice

09-10-2007 17:31:11

nm.. it moved from the top to completed, lol

tylerc

09-10-2007 19:10:23

I'm hoping Zooba goes through soon (

zr2152

09-10-2007 19:36:25

[quote2cea2bd6ac="tylerc"]I'm hoping Zooba goes through soon ([/quote2cea2bd6ac]

What day are you at?

manOFice

09-10-2007 19:58:18

I've read zooba takes awhile...

tylerc

09-10-2007 20:52:41

I think it's been about a week. I hear 3 weeks exactly is what it takes.

Swat1

10-10-2007 00:47:04

[quote6e9f0c9482="manOFice"][quote6e9f0c9482="06pontiac"]You've never done Brandarama before?? You've been in this how long? lol.[/quote6e9f0c9482]
I don't like change and I don't like to wait, but i was sick of seeing so much success and me getting nothing, HAHA

Just finished the 500 bestbuy site too.

I just read like 30 pages of brandarama threads.

I THINK I read somewhere the following... correct me if i'm wrong

I can sign up for 1k card on my computer, my household and my wife can also sign up for the 1k card on my computer and my household.. seeing we live togather?![/quote6e9f0c9482]

one per household.

manOFice

10-10-2007 04:37:20

[quote902e11c63f="Swat1"][quote902e11c63f="manOFice"][quote902e11c63f="06pontiac"]You've never done Brandarama before?? You've been in this how long? lol.[/quote902e11c63f]
I don't like change and I don't like to wait, but i was sick of seeing so much success and me getting nothing, HAHA

Just finished the 500 bestbuy site too.

I just read like 30 pages of brandarama threads.

I THINK I read somewhere the following... correct me if i'm wrong

I can sign up for 1k card on my computer, my household and my wife can also sign up for the 1k card on my computer and my household.. seeing we live togather?![/quote902e11c63f]

one per household.[/quote902e11c63f]

No you are wrong, I called them. The above is allowed even though I'm not going to do it.

RolltheStampede

10-10-2007 06:32:21

get your own answers if you are really concerned, the cs responses conflict with an another all the time. If you did it and your response was well ManOFice did it its not going to fly but he could do it since he has a document response to back him up

manOFice

10-10-2007 17:02:57

Friday is not coming around fast enough... LOL

beerman

12-10-2007 06:50:27

Has anyone received thier Sports Authority Cards yet? If so how long was it from confirmed?

RolltheStampede

12-10-2007 06:55:05

I just got confirmed to ship yesterday but i doubt ill seeit before valentines day

manOFice

12-10-2007 07:24:52

Come on credits! Daddy needs a new pair of shoes!!

Well actually a shit load of money!

RyanG

12-10-2007 09:35:31

Got mine )

RolltheStampede

12-10-2007 09:38:53

whooo hoo credits came early today.

I can finally got to college now with this scholarship. j/k

maverik

12-10-2007 09:56:43

[quotef420d7564f="RolltheStampede"]whooo hoo credits came early today.

I can finally got to college now with this scholarship. j/k[/quotef420d7564f]

I sent mine in last week, (waited over a month & a half for that last 14th offer). Hopefully in 1-2 weeks I'll be confirmed. Let's cross our fingers for a faster time line than the cards. I mean, it is only a check right? )

RolltheStampede

12-10-2007 10:01:31

thery will probly want to see some college acceptance letters or something, i would think a check would come faster but i wont expect and thing but the standard 3 months

maverik

12-10-2007 10:10:58

Acceptance letters? Doubtful. Well, that wasn't their story back in July before I even started. Though we all know how consistent their answers are.

RolltheStampede

12-10-2007 10:15:22

im just joking im sure they will send a check

mookieb2

12-10-2007 10:39:52

Got my first 3 credits for the 1K card. Just need to do 1 page 4 offer, there was nothing I wanted to try last week, hopefully they will rotate a little.

RolltheStampede

12-10-2007 11:06:07

what you mean you dont like kitty litter

mookieb2

12-10-2007 12:11:08

Yea, no cats, just did another offer, hopefully it will credit before next fri.

Does Brandarama always rotate offers like this? Seems like a whole new set from last week.

manOFice

12-10-2007 13:07:22

I'm VERY impressed with their crediting.

06pontiac

12-10-2007 13:11:04

Yeah i got credit for all5 of my offers for the 1350 sports authority this morning. Did all the offers last night around 8pm EST. Pretty good id say!! Sent in my forms today.

beerman

12-10-2007 13:11:58

[quote55715fdaa6="RyanG"]Got mine )[/quote55715fdaa6]

Was this in response to my question? If so, do you have a timeline?

manOFice

12-10-2007 13:16:04

[quote1a4b28a3ed="beerman1976"][quote1a4b28a3ed="RyanG"]Got mine )[/quote1a4b28a3ed]

Was this in response to my question? If so, do you have a timeline?[/quote1a4b28a3ed]

I believe he said "got mine" as in got his credits today

beerman

12-10-2007 13:16:26

[quoteeee1f548f8="06pontiac"]Yeah i got credit for all5 of my offers for the 1350 sports authority this morning. Did all the offers last night around 8pm EST. Pretty good id say!! Sent in my forms today.[/quoteeee1f548f8]

Same kind of thing happen to me last week for the $500 Tiffany's Card, did offers about 11pm Thursday, Friday was approved, sent in forms on saturday....I like when is nice and quick like that....on the other hand been waiting awhile to go 14/14 on the scholorship site....

manOFice

12-10-2007 13:25:59

Yeah I did the 500 lowes yesterday and all 3 credited today. and forms are in the mail

RolltheStampede

12-10-2007 14:05:24

they seem to rotate offers about twice a week or so, some offer pop up on the last few pages for a few days. the rockstar shirts was there for like 3 days and i wouldnt expect the kitty litter to last more than a week or so

manOFice

12-10-2007 14:06:51

I hoped on that kitty liter offer, I have 3 cats!!

maverik

12-10-2007 14:07:17

[quote01ee045d9c="beerman1976"]Same kind of thing happen to me last week for the $500 Tiffany's Card, did offers about 11pm Thursday, Friday was approved, sent in forms on saturday....I like when is nice and quick like that....on the other hand been waiting awhile to go 14/14 on the scholorship site....[/quote01ee045d9c]

I hear ya. I ended up doing 16. I was waiting since the end of august for my scholastic to go through because I was 13/14. It never did, so I did Entertainment book.....That didn't go through after waiting a few fridays. Then I decided to do Shopping Essentials+ which was instant & then I was able to confirm last weekend & send them. The weird part about it is I finally got credit for Entertainment Book today after almost 4 weeks. So I'm 15/14 waiting to be confirmed. All in all, that with all of my low offer (i.e., 3-5 offer GC's) gifts, NEVER missed a beat.

zr2152

12-10-2007 16:15:02

I sent my forms out for my 500 Best Buy giftcard today.

I started offers on October 10th and one credited on wednesday and the other two credited today!

Ill update you when I get confirmed to ship )

giovannip811

12-10-2007 20:16:28

all my offers credited for the ipod touch, i printed the form and i am going to mail it tomorrow/

Zags1199

13-10-2007 01:22:13

Has anyone done Experian on Brandarama? Is it an instant, next-day, or Friday credit?

giovannip811

13-10-2007 06:31:13

when you guys send in the claim forms how long does it take for your status to say ''confirmed to be shipped"

tylerc

13-10-2007 07:32:11

[quote7e16deba1c="Zags1199"]Has anyone done Experian on Brandarama? Is it an instant, next-day, or Friday credit?[/quote7e16deba1c]

It was instant at YFDirect's GadgetCity.

slambam

14-10-2007 21:07:50

Has anybody done NetFlix for Brandarama? I wait for Fridays, and theres already been 2 Fridays with no credit?! I know it says it takes 1-21 days to credit, and it hasn't been 21 yet, just curious.

slambam

14-10-2007 21:08:32

[quote2a2042689f="giovannip811"]when you guys send in the claim forms how long does it take for your status to say ''confirmed to be shipped"[/quote2a2042689f]

Right around 2 weeks.

zr2152

14-10-2007 21:28:30

[quoteb3f49601c8="slambam"]Has anybody done NetFlix for Brandarama? I wait for Fridays, and theres already been 2 Fridays with no credit?! I know it says it takes 1-21 days to credit, and it hasn't been 21 yet, just curious.[/quoteb3f49601c8]

Netflix takes a long time to credit on just about every incentive based site. If I were you, I would wait one more week and if still nothing, send in your headers to CS.

RolltheStampede

14-10-2007 21:59:23

send in your header and wait forever to not get credit, do another offer

zr2152

15-10-2007 07:39:44

[quoteab79d0de5b="RolltheStampede"]send in your header and wait forever to not get credit, do another offer[/quoteab79d0de5b]

Not true. I did that for one of my offers in the 10th day and the credited me that day, I dont know if it was a coincidence or not but i think it worked.

connorBC20

15-10-2007 12:34:58

How is Brandarama's manual credit? I would rather do a replacment if there was no chance that I could get credit,

tylerc

15-10-2007 13:06:26

Do another offer.

manOFice

15-10-2007 13:39:42

All my paper work got to them today, heres for a good 2 week turn around )

ILoveToys

15-10-2007 14:01:24

Nice work...Brandarama is slow, but great, and I love them )

illnovah

16-10-2007 20:15:19

[quote80b14ffd61="RolltheStampede"]i think it goes by the type of card.
for ex. a sears card would ship faster than a amex which also ships faster than a visa.

I would guess
Retail Cards Bestbuy, Sears, Lowes, etc - 2-3 months
Amex Cards - 3- 4 months
Visa Gift Cards - 4-5 Months

i have some gifts confirmed though out august so i should know some thing in a few months. This is wha ti have gathered from other peoples experiences and timelines

so if you want fast i would think try a homedepot card[/quote80b14ffd61]

What about actual gifts? like Tv's though?

My $600 giftcard almost took a friggin' YEAR (visa)

zr2152

16-10-2007 21:10:36

Not too sure about actual gifts. RTS put a timeline for other gifts though, i think it goes like this

Retail Cards 1-2 Months
Amex 2-4
Visa 4-5

huckfinn16

16-10-2007 21:39:19

does it take as long to get a plasma from brandarama as it does the giftcards or does it come faster?

07

17-10-2007 00:05:19

[quote8ffaef4ec0="zr2152"]Not too sure about actual gifts. RTS put a timeline for other gifts though, i think it goes like this

Retail Cards 1-2 Months
Amex 2-4
Visa 4-5[/quote8ffaef4ec0]

I agree with exception to retail cards... that should be 2-4 as well. 3 months is the average retail card for me.

I just got an xbox elite from them too. That was 3 months.

fbskiracer

17-10-2007 08:52:01

Does Brandarama do manual credits? I am still waiting on scholastic as well. It seems like it should be considered an OOD.

RolltheStampede

17-10-2007 09:04:15

they say they give manaul but more time sthan not you are better off doing anothe offer, i would onlu press for manual if you idnt have another offer to do

Zags1199

17-10-2007 23:45:54

How long did Clever Clasp take to credit for you? The e-mail I got says it takes them 4-6 weeks to ship; does it take that long to credit?

07

18-10-2007 00:07:31

[quote33c1665014="Zags1199"]How long did Clever Clasp take to credit for you? The e-mail I got says it takes them 4-6 weeks to ship; does it take that long to credit?[/quote33c1665014]

for me... less than a week

mistertomlinson

18-10-2007 05:24:19

[quotee5dbff1bcb="07"][quotee5dbff1bcb="Zags1199"]How long did Clever Clasp take to credit for you? The e-mail I got says it takes them 4-6 weeks to ship; does it take that long to credit?[/quotee5dbff1bcb]

for me... less than a week[/quotee5dbff1bcb]

Same here.

manOFice

18-10-2007 07:16:06

LOL, just got a phone call trying to hook me up with a cruizzzze "obvious spam phone call" and they said they got my number directly from yourtopbrands, LOL

zr2152

18-10-2007 07:45:08

wow. Did you agree to that third party opt out checkbox at the bottom?

manOFice

18-10-2007 07:52:31

[quote951593d93c="zr2152"]wow. Did you agree to that third party opt out checkbox at the bottom?[/quote951593d93c]

Just checked it out, no I didn't. It was defaulted off roll

zr2152

18-10-2007 08:19:17

[quote53d99e62f9="manOFice"][quote53d99e62f9="zr2152"]wow. Did you agree to that third party opt out checkbox at the bottom?[/quote53d99e62f9]

Just checked it out, no I didn't. It was defaulted off roll[/quote53d99e62f9]


Well there is your problem i believe but I still think that box if for different reasons. Since I checked it, i havent received any phone calls but i have received some emails from like scholarship thingys sponsored by Brandarama but that doesnt really bother me too much.

shrug

Zags1199

18-10-2007 08:59:53

[quote9910f003fd="manOFice"]LOL, just got a phone call trying to hook me up with a cruizzzze "obvious spam phone call" and they said they got my number directly from yourtopbrands, LOL[/quote9910f003fd]

Yeah, I got the exact same call. The guy sounded like a cheesy game show host, rofl.

manOFice

18-10-2007 09:45:33

[quote4683ff3ef8="Zags1199"][quote4683ff3ef8="manOFice"]LOL, just got a phone call trying to hook me up with a cruizzzze "obvious spam phone call" and they said they got my number directly from yourtopbrands, LOL[/quote4683ff3ef8]

Yeah, I got the exact same call. The guy sounded like a cheesy game show host, rofl.[/quote4683ff3ef8]

lol lol

fbskiracer

18-10-2007 11:29:22

Has anyone done netflix? I'm waiting for it to credit for me and I'm past day 21.

RolltheStampede

18-10-2007 11:37:17

netflix is bad credit on just about any site
except maybe i deal

slambam

18-10-2007 11:38:39

I did NetFlix the 4th, if it doesn't go this Friday I think I'm going to send in my headers. Then I'll wait another week if that doesn't work I'll do another offer.

fbskiracer

18-10-2007 11:45:41

I did it the 29th

mookieb2

18-10-2007 13:06:45

Anyone notice that they took down the 4 offer $1000 visa, the 3 offer $500 Amex's, and the plasma site. Better sign up quick if you still want the others they have.

zr2152

18-10-2007 13:15:13

Yeah I saw that, but I already signed up for all 3 of them )

RolltheStampede

18-10-2007 13:18:49

seems like the ones getting taken down are the ones being posted here, the sport authority is gone
the 2500 scholarship is gone, was just there yesterday

seems all the amexes have been pulled and i wouldnt give the retail ones till past tommorow

manOFice

18-10-2007 13:22:10

[quote78a2cf62eb="RolltheStampede"]seems like the ones getting taken down are the ones being posted here, the sport authority is gone
the 2500 scholarship is gone, was just there yesterday

seems all the amexes have been pulled and i wouldnt give the retail ones till past tommorow[/quote78a2cf62eb]

What a surprise... roll heh

zr2152

18-10-2007 13:34:26

Yeah something really needs to be done about links being posted here on this thread because a lot of ppl are signing up and not completing them, hurting us who do complete them.

Is there anyway we can make a rule about no posting links in this forum?

RolltheStampede

18-10-2007 13:49:33

[quote41e8695db8="zr2152"]Yeah something really needs to be done about links being posted here on this thread because a lot of ppl are signing up and not completing them, hurting us who do complete them.

Is there anyway we can make a rule about no posting links in this forum?[/quote41e8695db8]

if you wanted to do it you would have signed up for it already especially the brandarama one where you have a ton of time to do the sites. i had all mine parked already

beerman

18-10-2007 13:53:39

I think you have this backward. If all people who signed up completed the site and got gifts the companies would go bancrupt. They lose money on people like us. So we want more people to sign up and not complete the site, it puts more money in brandaram's pocket which means more they can give us!

mookieb2

18-10-2007 13:58:17

[quote45c6dc6aba="zr2152"]Yeah something really needs to be done about links being posted here on this thread because a lot of ppl are signing up and not completing them, hurting us who do complete them.

Is there anyway we can make a rule about no posting links in this forum?[/quote45c6dc6aba]

I'm conflicted on this because this is where I find most of the good links. Being a freebie community, shouldn't this be the place to post these links?

Maybe, if we are worried, when you find a good link, finish it yourself and tell your friends, then when you're done it, post it up for the rest of us schlubs.

I don't think there is a great way to fix this other than being quick when you see a good one.

RolltheStampede

18-10-2007 14:08:45

[quote6a428cc1e6="beerman1976"]I think you have this backward. If all people who signed up completed the site and got gifts the companies would go bancrupt. They lose money on people like us. So we want more people to sign up and not complete the site, it puts more money in brandaram's pocket which means more they can give us![/quote6a428cc1e6]


that is what they want but the people signing up from this site know how to finish the sites and are making it worst. but like i said beofore you cant wait when you see a good deal, you have to jump on it

ArmyCadis

18-10-2007 17:07:54

This is crazy.

I'm waiting for the sites to go down completely and we don't get our prizes.

06pontiac

18-10-2007 17:42:06

Shit...what the hell has happened. Does this mean brandarama is going down hill?

07

18-10-2007 17:43:38

[quote6d0e1c1506="RolltheStampede"]seems like the ones getting taken down are the ones being posted here, the sport authority is gone
the 2500 scholarship is gone, was just there yesterday

seems all the amexes have been pulled and i wouldnt give the retail ones till past tommorow[/quote6d0e1c1506]

There is still a 4 offer 500 amex

07

18-10-2007 17:45:00

[quote3c9f44f3a4="06pontiac"]Shit...what the hell has happened. Does this mean brandarama is going down hill?[/quote3c9f44f3a4]

haha no, dude they still have 8 million other gifts... they just dont have the wicked good deals anymore. roll

for a kid who "owns his own company and rolls in money" you sure do seem a bit immature.

huckfinn16

18-10-2007 18:22:58

so if I signed up for the brandarama plasma site but I haven't completed any offers yet is it still cool to do it?

RolltheStampede

18-10-2007 18:59:15

yeah as long as you can access it

07

18-10-2007 19:03:44

[quotebdf089fb15="huckfinn16"]so if I signed up for the brandarama plasma site but I haven't completed any offers yet is it still cool to do it?[/quotebdf089fb15]

certainly is!

RolltheStampede

18-10-2007 19:08:22

[quotea190e8d479="07"][quotea190e8d479="RolltheStampede"]seems like the ones getting taken down are the ones being posted here, the sport authority is gone
the 2500 scholarship is gone, was just there yesterday

seems all the amexes have been pulled and i wouldnt give the retail ones till past tommorow[/quotea190e8d479]

There is still a 4 offer 500 amex[/quotea190e8d479]

yes you are right there are still a couple 500 for 4.

06pontiac

18-10-2007 19:26:31

[quotebc2e36c706="07"][quotebc2e36c706="06pontiac"]Shit...what the hell has happened. Does this mean brandarama is going down hill?[/quotebc2e36c706]

haha no, dude they still have 8 million other gifts... they just dont have the wicked good deals anymore. roll

for a kid who "owns his own company and rolls in money" you sure do seem a bit immature.[/quotebc2e36c706]

Umm, dont bring that crap in here. lol. You advocate fraud if im not mistaken, so dont come bitching at me. And yeah, i own 3 companies so what? Doesnt mean i make 100 million dollars. roll .Whourl==http://=http:///url doesnt want good deals on these freebies.

connorBC20

18-10-2007 20:27:46

Wow did not expect that. Good thing I signed up on the 1350 SA and 100 Visa today!

ArmyCadis

19-10-2007 05:09:56

Oh, my bad! I didn't even bother reading every post. All I heard was BR taking down sites lol

RolltheStampede

19-10-2007 06:31:50

dang it i forgot to do offers yesterday (

manOFice

19-10-2007 06:35:59

[quote31ceb86e18="RolltheStampede"]dang it i forgot to do offers yesterday ([/quote31ceb86e18]

Ditto...


ps. Anyone do that kitty litter trial and not want the litter? I'll buy it off you for two dollars ;)

06pontiac

19-10-2007 08:09:21

Hmm...this is odd. Usually credit comes in the mornings for offers you did during the week. I did about 10 offers and haven't gotten credit for any of them yet...

manOFice

19-10-2007 08:10:11

[quotebfccda23a9="06pontiac"]Hmm...this is odd. Usually credit comes in the mornings for offers you did during the week. I did about 10 offers and haven't gotten credit for any of them yet...[/quotebfccda23a9]

I was under the impression they came in later in the afternoon on Fridays...

RolltheStampede

19-10-2007 08:10:44

dang it its still too early, wait a few offers

fbskiracer

19-10-2007 09:22:06

Netflix finally credited for me 24 days later

connorBC20

19-10-2007 10:16:36

I just got credited for hoodistar but not magazine burst

RyanG

19-10-2007 10:25:33

Anyone who has done rewardsparade, have you received your gift if you were confirmed in August/End of July? Thanks!

06pontiac

19-10-2007 10:54:56

OK, some of my offers credited. How long does BMG Music usually take to credit? I did it 7 days ago.

ghounds07

19-10-2007 11:37:55

Yay, done on a 3 offer site, i did 4 offers since one didn't credit, but still happy.

dmorris68

19-10-2007 11:43:29

[quote50c1afdbc5="06pontiac"]OK, some of my offers credited. How long does BMG Music usually take to credit? I did it 7 days ago.[/quote50c1afdbc5]
CD/DVD clubs are notoriously slow to credit on most DIY sites. 7 days would be fast for them, you'll probably wait 2-3 weeks or more for credit.

menglin

19-10-2007 12:33:56

How often do offers change? I was just able to do all 4 offers on the $1000GC.A month and a half from signing up. I know that sites have 60 and 180 days from sign up to complete.

mookieb2

19-10-2007 14:47:56

Just printed off my certs for the 1,000 Visa (4 offers). I love how at the end of the form it says, "Please wait 4-6 weeks for delivery of your gift."

Quick question, my mom went 3 out of 4 today. Is Brandarama like I-deal where it's just better to do a replacement, or should I have her wait another week? Obviously, with Brandarama, she's in no hurry.

RolltheStampede

19-10-2007 19:11:46

wait no more the 3 weeks total, then just do another offer.

did everyone get there credits this week i did

hum1m9e8r8b

20-10-2007 14:38:11

Where can I find the $500 Best Buy card that zr2152 was referring to on page 3? I can't seem to find it anywhere else.

slambam

20-10-2007 22:11:50

[quote3e237dc6cc="fbskiracer"]Netflix finally credited for me 24 days later[/quote3e237dc6cc]

Hmm, that gives me hope, this was the 3rd Friday for me. Hadn't been 21 days yet, but I had just about given up hope. I'll wait another week or two I suppose.

fbskiracer

21-10-2007 07:20:47

So is anyone scared that alot of the open offers are now closed? I.E. the $2500 check/scholarship link, the 4 offer $1000 visa and the 5 offer sports authority cards?

I want to the scholarship one but I'm worried it might not come now that you can no longer sign up.

massman

21-10-2007 13:00:54

[quoteaf0b1fa7a5="fbskiracer"]So is anyone scared that alot of the open offers are now closed? I.E. the $2500 check/scholarship link, the 4 offer $1000 visa and the 5 offer sports authority cards?

I want to the scholarship one but I'm worried it might not come now that you can no longer sign up.[/quoteaf0b1fa7a5]

nah, i'm not worried. every company HAS to change/adapt as more new people get in on them. Just gotta adapt with them.

Zags1199

21-10-2007 13:32:25

Yeah, they still have plenty of promotions up on each domain. They just don't have the amazing ones anymore.

fbskiracer

21-10-2007 17:18:24

My point was more should i complete the scholarship one or not. I signed up, but will I get it IF the offer is no longer open?

manOFice

21-10-2007 18:32:26

[quotee7d5e41ae4="fbskiracer"]My point was more should i complete the scholarship one or not. I signed up, but will I get it IF the offer is no longer open?[/quotee7d5e41ae4]

Yes.

madmanx33

23-10-2007 03:34:34

Ahh shit
Does running adblock plus while completing offers ruin crediting?

fbskiracer

23-10-2007 06:34:36

[quote2fa4f66b11="madmanx33"]Ahh shit
Does running adblock plus while completing offers ruin crediting?[/quote2fa4f66b11]

Yes, adblocking, firewalls, anything protecting you CAN (can not will) mess up offer crediting by disturbing the reporting system. I turn everything off while I am completing offers to increase my odds.

RolltheStampede

02-11-2007 05:52:06

who's waiting for credits this week. i only need one

dmorris68

02-11-2007 06:38:21

[quoteee9faf2726="fbskiracer"][quoteee9faf2726="madmanx33"]Ahh shit
Does running adblock plus while completing offers ruin crediting?[/quoteee9faf2726]

Yes, adblocking, firewalls, anything protecting you CAN (can not will) mess up offer crediting by disturbing the reporting system. I turn everything off while I am completing offers to increase my odds.[/quoteee9faf2726]
A firewall by itself should never affect crediting, that's a misconception. The only way a firewall could affect crediting is if someone setup a blacklist filter in the firewall to block access to certain URL's.

I think the confusion lies in the fact that some personal firewall software also include optional cookie, ad, and popup blockers, which DO affect crediting. I always use discrete components, and disable any of those extra features from any firewall I use, but I always leave the firewall functionality enabled.

So as long you don't have anything blocking cookies, ads, & popups, you should have no problems with crediting (from your end, anyway).

mbarbs99

03-11-2007 11:08:37

[quoteed0c99839d]No...You aren't supposed to do the same offer even if it is on two different sites. For example you can't do the RP grocery 500 amex and the trusted rewards grocery 500 amex, b/c they're the same offer really.[/quoteed0c99839d]

I did Great Fun on YTB for the 4 offer 1k and then again for Brandarama thursday night as well as the kitty litter one (for the first time) to see if the friday morning crediting held true...

kitty litter a go!
Great Fun - not so much

So, i suppose people have mixed luck with offer repeats but as a whole it prolly isn't great especially if its looked at as fraud.

TheWorkGuy

04-11-2007 01:30:49

Hey

I have a request of ALL FiG members that have done or looked at brandarama/youtopbrands sites.

If I could get all the domain names/urls of all their sites I believe it would be helpful to all in discovering their sites and offers.

I have already discovered a few good deals and I think you guys can help in the effort for us all )

Thanks and your help will be rewarded soon ;)

TWG

So far I got the following domain names

brandarama.com
giftitamerica.com
householdsavingsclub.com
pollprizeusa.com
rewardsparade.com
topcomsumerrewards.com
topshelfbrands.net
trustedrewards.com
usasurveygroup.com
wholesomerewards.com
youtopbrands.com

zr2152

04-11-2007 07:11:30

[quote74e617ef82="mbarbs99"][quote74e617ef82]No...You aren't supposed to do the same offer even if it is on two different sites. For example you can't do the RP grocery 500 amex and the trusted rewards grocery 500 amex, b/c they're the same offer really.[/quote74e617ef82]

I did Great Fun on YTB for the 4 offer 1k and then again for Brandarama thursday night as well as the kitty litter one (for the first time) to see if the friday morning crediting held true...

kitty litter a go!
Great Fun - not so much

So, i suppose people have mixed luck with offer repeats but as a whole it prolly isn't great especially if its looked at as fraud.[/quote74e617ef82]

Yeah that is offer fraud and you yourself are ruining the freebie scene for others. Why the HELL would you do that?

manOFice

04-11-2007 07:27:13

[quote30086423e0="mbarbs99"][quote30086423e0]No...You aren't supposed to do the same offer even if it is on two different sites. For example you can't do the RP grocery 500 amex and the trusted rewards grocery 500 amex, b/c they're the same offer really.[/quote30086423e0]

I did Great Fun on YTB for the 4 offer 1k and then again for Brandarama thursday night as well as the kitty litter one (for the first time) to see if the friday morning crediting held true...

kitty litter a go!
Great Fun - not so much

So, i suppose people have mixed luck with offer repeats but as a whole it prolly isn't great especially if its looked at as fraud.[/quote30086423e0]

Thats offer fraud... roll

orangejuice

04-11-2007 07:48:17

lol. someone on anything4free claims to have done Clever Clasp 8 times. i thought it was funny. but its probably true...

dmorris68

04-11-2007 09:17:09

[quote26b919a017="mbarbs99"][quote26b919a017]No...You aren't supposed to do the same offer even if it is on two different sites. For example you can't do the RP grocery 500 amex and the trusted rewards grocery 500 amex, b/c they're the same offer really.[/quote26b919a017]

I did Great Fun on YTB for the 4 offer 1k and then again for Brandarama thursday night as well as the kitty litter one (for the first time) to see if the friday morning crediting held true...

kitty litter a go!
Great Fun - not so much

So, i suppose people have mixed luck with offer repeats but as a whole it prolly isn't great especially if its looked at as fraud.[/quote26b919a017]
Continuing to discuss the perpetration of offer fraud will result in banning from the forums. Do NOT discuss such things here.

zr2152

04-11-2007 09:28:29

I bet they get DQ'ed

slambam

04-11-2007 09:28:35

[quote8eb72bb5f0="TheWorkGuy"]Hey

I have a request of ALL FiG members that have done or looked at brandarama/youtopbrands sites.

If I could get all the domain names/urls of all their sites I believe it would be helpful to all in discovering their sites and offers.

I have already discovered a few good deals and I think you guys can help in the effort for us all )

Thanks and your help will be rewarded soon ;)

TWG

So far I got the following domain names

brandarama.com
giftitamerica.com
householdsavingsclub.com
pollprizeusa.com
rewardsparade.com
topcomsumerrewards.com
topshelfbrands.net
trustedrewards.com
usasurveygroup.com
wholesomerewards.com
youtopbrands.com[/quote8eb72bb5f0]

Only other one I know of is opiniongift.com

TheWorkGuy

04-11-2007 11:37:38

[quote3aa8ff97d0="slambam"][quote3aa8ff97d0="TheWorkGuy"]Hey

I have a request of ALL FiG members that have done or looked at brandarama/youtopbrands sites.

If I could get all the domain names/urls of all their sites I believe it would be helpful to all in discovering their sites and offers.

I have already discovered a few good deals and I think you guys can help in the effort for us all )

Thanks and your help will be rewarded soon ;)

TWG

So far I got the following domain names

brandarama.com
giftitamerica.com
householdsavingsclub.com
pollprizeusa.com
rewardsparade.com
topcomsumerrewards.com
topshelfbrands.net
trustedrewards.com
usasurveygroup.com
wholesomerewards.com
youtopbrands.com[/quote3aa8ff97d0]

Only other one I know of is opiniongift.com[/quote3aa8ff97d0]

Thanks you helped add two more new sites to the list )
Anyone else?

Also, since I haven't been on the forum for a while, how should I go about releasing Brandarama sites?
I got about a dozen new ones, including a $1000 VISA site.

TWG

RolltheStampede

04-11-2007 13:30:19

you can send them to me i got a pretty good list going

slambam

04-11-2007 14:25:26

No problemo. Hmm, how many offers are the $1000 Visas? I think I've seen them for 10 offers, are those the same?

samz465

04-11-2007 14:59:06

I've seen a couple $1000 ones for like 4 offers.

slambam

04-11-2007 19:31:20

[quote8a42bac32f="samz465"]I've seen a couple $1000 ones for like 4 offers.[/quote8a42bac32f]

Hmm? The still active?

RolltheStampede

05-11-2007 06:06:28

[quotef45dbd70fa="samz465"]I've seen a couple $1000 ones for like 4 offers.[/quotef45dbd70fa]

i have seen 1 for 4 offers. and a 1350 for 5 offers. thats about it

Crav

08-11-2007 15:26:17

[quoteb1ef719beb="zr2152"]I bet they get DQ'ed[/quoteb1ef719beb]

What does that mean?

zr2152

08-11-2007 16:19:58

[quoteddd0d9dded="Crav"][quoteddd0d9dded="zr2152"]I bet they get DQ'ed[/quoteddd0d9dded]

What does that mean?[/quoteddd0d9dded]

They will be disqualified from getting their gift cause they committed offer fraud

Swat1

08-11-2007 19:22:17

[quotee9a0a174c5="orangejuice"]lol. someone on anything4free claims to have done Clever Clasp 8 times. i thought it was funny. but its probably true...[/quotee9a0a174c5]

i'm not talking about fraud here so dont ban me.

My question about clever clasp (since i've never done it) is; is this a one time purchase of a clasp or does it have reoccuring charges? I heard its just a one time purchase but that doesn't sound right in these types of offers. if they were just one time purchases, it wouldn't be fraud then to do them again, right?

i just need clarification.

slambam

08-11-2007 19:40:34

[quote7f6f454526="Swat1"][quote7f6f454526="orangejuice"]lol. someone on anything4free claims to have done Clever Clasp 8 times. i thought it was funny. but its probably true...[/quote7f6f454526]

i'm not talking about fraud here so dont ban me.

My question about clever clasp (since i've never done it) is; is this a one time purchase of a clasp or does it have reoccuring charges? I heard its just a one time purchase but that doesn't sound right in these types of offers. if they were just one time purchases, it wouldn't be fraud then to do them again, right?

i just need clarification.[/quote7f6f454526]

It's just a one time thing. It's just like the infommercial if you've ever seen it on TV. When you order it they also offer you other "As Seen On TV" items.

dmorris68

08-11-2007 20:21:22

There are a few one-time purchase offers like that. Stuff like inkjet supplies, pet supplies, etc. Those are some of the best offers to do IMO.

kidd2108

09-11-2007 18:04:07

went 5 of 6 on two sites for a total of $1000. woot

sjbppd

10-11-2007 00:19:09

if you guys could post the links for the ipod touch and that 500 lowes it would be nice. or pm me. since no one seems to be posting links in this forum???

Swat1

10-11-2007 01:47:16

[quoteca9509b9ea="sjbppd"]if you guys could post the links for the iPod touch and that 500 lowes it would be nice. or pm me. since no one seems to be posting links in this forum???[/quoteca9509b9ea]

the 500 lowes link i have is dead...

Swat1

10-11-2007 04:31:56

has anyone gotten their sports authority giftcards yet this month? or recently?

slambam

10-11-2007 10:43:35

[quoteeb44c7781c="Swat1"][quoteeb44c7781c="sjbppd"]if you guys could post the links for the iPod touch and that 500 lowes it would be nice. or pm me. since no one seems to be posting links in this forum???[/quoteeb44c7781c]

the 500 lowes link i have is dead...[/quoteeb44c7781c]

There was two, this one is still alive...

http//www.householdsavingsclub.com/HZa2461dd8631?sud=786

sjbppd

10-11-2007 15:45:31

I found a ipod touch 16gb for 4 offers. Is this a good deal?

Oh yeah. Thanks for that link Slam.

kidd2108

10-11-2007 15:52:03

[quote7c9c7696be="sjbppd"]I found a iPod touch 16gb for 4 offers. Is this a good deal?

Oh yeah. Thanks for that link Slam.[/quote7c9c7696be]

yes.

manOFice

10-11-2007 16:36:47

[quotee7fc4d8037="sjbppd"]I found a iPod touch 16gb for 4 offers. Is this a good deal?

Oh yeah. Thanks for that link Slam.[/quotee7fc4d8037]

Link?

RyanG

10-11-2007 17:54:06

I think a $500 AMEX for 5 offers isn't too bad.

http//wholesomerewards.com/pub.php?pbk=CNY04&sk=ANgvx&bk=JYr45&flk=CGPr3&q15839=1

manOFice

10-11-2007 18:12:52

[quote9528f60895="RyanG"]I think a $500 AMEX for 5 offers isn't too bad.

http//wholesomerewards.com/pub.php?pbk=CNY04&sk=ANgvx&bk=JYr45&flk=CGPr3&q15839=1[/quote9528f60895]


http//www.householdsavingsclub.com/RXqw561dd8687?sud=786

500 bucks 5 offers also

freelio

11-11-2007 19:46:41

first post

$500 g/c to hotels for 3 referrals

http//www.householdsavingsclub.com/EPn0261dd867?sud=126

kidd2108

11-11-2007 19:55:27

[quote2f72a04588="freelio"]first post

$500 g/c to hotels for 3 referrals

http//www.householdsavingsclub.com/EPn0261dd867?sud=126[/quote2f72a04588]

3 offers, not 3 referrals. Not a bad first post. Im sure many others will appreciate your post. I already did that link though.

cubbieco

12-11-2007 10:48:31

I was confirmed for the $1000 visa back in July 5. The last shipments that I know of were around Oct 5 and that had people confirmed in June. I don't know that they shipped any since then (please correct me if I'm wrong). Would it do any good to raise a stink and try to get them to hurry the next batch or at least get mine done sooner? Has anybody ever tried to call and talk to a manager or anybody in authority?

mookieb2

12-11-2007 11:05:21

I guess you could, but it might be best just to wait. We know these take a while, and we knew that when we signed up for it. It will come soon enough.

kidd2108

12-11-2007 12:16:18

[quoteb4e81e6860="cubbieco"]I was confirmed for the $1000 visa back in July 5. The last shipments that I know of were around Oct 5 and that had people confirmed in June. I don't know that they shipped any since then (please correct me if I'm wrong). Would it do any good to raise a stink and try to get them to hurry the next batch or at least get mine done sooner? Has anybody ever tried to call and talk to a manager or anybody in authority?[/quoteb4e81e6860]

go ahead, but somehow you'll wind up at the bottom of the pile. lol I was confirmed July 2. Just wait it out a few more weeks.

Swat1

13-11-2007 01:35:16

[quote7ac427c784="cubbieco"]I was confirmed for the $1000 visa back in July 5. The last shipments that I know of were around Oct 5 and that had people confirmed in June. I don't know that they shipped any since then (please correct me if I'm wrong). Would it do any good to raise a stink and try to get them to hurry the next batch or at least get mine done sooner? Has anybody ever tried to call and talk to a manager or anybody in authority?[/quote7ac427c784]

it seems to me they order it and send it out in monthly bunches. so i highly doubt they will hurry it up....in fact, it looks as if they're slowing down. the BB 500 dollar for august is suppose to ship this month. last month, people from july got it in early oct...this month, it hasn't even been shipped yet. seems to be the same story for the 1000 dollars as well...and other BR sites.

bruman

13-11-2007 07:10:23

Peeps on another forum said they gots a lowes $500 gc confirmed 2 ship aug. 29th

RolltheStampede

13-11-2007 07:50:57

lowes seem to be shipping pretty fast, best buy cards need to get a move on

Swat1

13-11-2007 07:52:27

[quotecab0eba623="bruman"]Peeps on another forum said they gots a lowes $500 gc confirmed 2 ship aug. 29th[/quotecab0eba623]

i hope august Sport authorities ship this month then...its due this month. so are bestbuy cards..

dubbin87

13-11-2007 14:55:58

This question was brought up a few pages back but, am wondering if anymore info surfaced. (I already am in contact with CS about it) but want to hear from anyone who might have actually done it.

It's in reguards to wife/g/f living in the same household using the same IP doing an offer I already done. She has the offer under a different email address than I did, and will be doing different offers than me. but in the end the prize will becoming to the same home address with the same IP addy.

sjbppd

14-11-2007 08:22:59

[quote34283152b8="manOFice"][quote34283152b8="RyanG"]I think a $500 AMEX for 5 offers isn't too bad.

http//wholesomerewards.com/pub.php?pbk=CNY04&sk=ANgvx&bk=JYr45&flk=CGPr3&q15839=1[/quote34283152b8]


http//www.householdsavingsclub.com/RXqw561dd8687?sud=786

500 bucks 5 offers also[/quote34283152b8]

I would receive a check in place of the crate and barrel gc?

RolltheStampede

14-11-2007 08:28:37

not necessaryly they tend to ship what they advertise

sjbppd

17-11-2007 11:16:12

Found an 8 offer amex gc from brandarama. Says it's for corrective surgery. I wouldn't have to use it for the surgery right?

kidd2108

17-11-2007 11:26:05

[quote2f15b8c4e4="sjbppd"]Found an 8 offer amex gc from brandarama. Says it's for corrective surgery. I wouldn't have to use it for the surgery right?[/quote2f15b8c4e4]

lol

no, unless you want to of course.

wiebelhaus03

17-11-2007 11:26:41

no they don't care what they use your visa/amex gift cards for haha. What i think he meant is that if they say $500 lowe's gift card, then you will be getting a gift card to lowe's rather than a $500 check

heather77

19-11-2007 16:28:33

So can someone clarify this...
Why would we not get manual credit for offers? I'm waiting for 2 scholastic offers to go through (Its been 27 days!), care bear club and interactive kids. I have confirmation e-mails and invoices, too.

wiebelhaus03

19-11-2007 16:38:07

[quotea0c55b280e="heather77"]So can someone clarify this...
Why would we not get manual credit for offers? I'm waiting for 2 scholastic offers to go through (Its been 27 days!), care bear club and interactive kids. I have confirmation e-mails and invoices, too.[/quotea0c55b280e]

Well there are a few cases where people get manual credit, but it's just not worth the hassle to most people. The process takes a VERY long time. First you must wait the 30 days to file a MCR, then it takes an additional 30+ days for brandarama to contact the advertisor. Since there is not a guarantee that you will even get manual credit and it will take 60+ days even if you are lucky enough to get it.

Plus add on the 3-5 month wait you already have to get your gift, it just makes it a lot easier and faster to do a replacement offer

manOFice

19-11-2007 17:03:18

I"ll say it again if you're wait longer than 2-3 weeks do another offer.

zombievixen

19-11-2007 17:46:09

D

Just sent in the cert for the 3 offer $500 Best Buy Gift Card and I am 2/3 for the $500 Lowes. For some reason the offers for the Lowes card credited on days other than Friday, so hopefully my final offer will credit this Friday.

heather77

19-11-2007 22:49:15

Oh.
My problem is I went nuts in the last couple of months and did like 6 sites at once, (3 i-deal, 2 nuitech, 1 yf direct, & 1 Brandarama) and now I've done about every offer there is, and I don't want to repeat any offers because I know it's not allowed. Soooo, I don't think I CAN do any replacement offers... poop.

RolltheStampede

20-11-2007 06:42:47

even the neve ones that just popped up on ideal recently.

connorBC20

23-11-2007 09:49:10

Has anybody got thier credits yet today?

RyanG

23-11-2007 10:48:43

[quoteeb7769a2e9="connorBC20"]Has anybody got thier credits yet today?[/quoteeb7769a2e9]

Not yet here.

orangejuice

23-11-2007 12:54:52

Same here, not yet.

dubbin87

23-11-2007 15:16:04

I asked a agent last week if crediting was going to be done on friday, she got mad at me and told me they credit when ever the company sends out the info to them.

Zags1199

23-11-2007 15:49:53

Ergh, I'm waiting on the Entertainment Book offer to credit.

RyanG

23-11-2007 16:18:06

[quotecaec805d8a="dubbin87"]I asked a agent last week if crediting was going to be done on friday, she got mad at me and told me they credit when ever the company sends out the info to them.[/quotecaec805d8a]

I'll blame this lack of crediting on you!

fbskiracer

25-11-2007 08:35:12

Yea I'm missing 3 credits form this week and 1 from last week. this is the first time I've ever had a problem with brandarama, but I'm glad I'm not the only one I guess

ghounds07

25-11-2007 14:28:08

Anyone else's login not working on all sites?

beerman

25-11-2007 14:31:19

none of mine are working either

RolltheStampede

25-11-2007 16:31:08

must be fixed now

ghounds07

27-11-2007 09:37:33

anyone having crediting problems?

I did 3 offers 1 1/2 weeks ago, none credited on that friday, one credited on either monday/tuesday, and the last 2 haven't credited.

Weird thing is that after I did the offers only 1 offer showed as pending, the one that credited wasn't there until it said "completed". So now I have 2 offers that didn't credit (1 shows as pending, the other isn't listed).

Seems odd never happened to me before, we'll see what happens and then I'll probably do replacements..

RyanG

27-11-2007 10:37:56

My offers credited today.

mookieb2

27-11-2007 12:16:37

I got 1 out of 2 credits today. Expect the other to credit on Fri.

mookieb2

27-11-2007 12:23:51

Check that ^^^, I got credit for the other offer as well, and printed out my form just now.

Did both late last night.

RolltheStampede

27-11-2007 14:14:10

sweet, guess they are making up for friday. I should have done my offers yesterday liek I usually do but oh well, hopefull its back to fridays

bruman

28-11-2007 06:10:02

Anyone having any log-in problems? I can only log-in from one of my e-mail addresses

zr2152

28-11-2007 08:43:59

Good for me. Oh and my gf had her shop dani to finally go through. She is just waiting on netflix now and I know that it usually takes a while for these sites (not ideal). Has anyone done Netflix B4?

slambam

28-11-2007 11:38:05

Netflix does take a while. Usually somewhere between 3-4 weeks.

sjbppd

28-11-2007 13:34:42

Nordstrom GC confirmed to ship today. WOOT! D Now the waiting game begins. 3-4 months???

kalinkster

28-11-2007 14:45:56

[quote1b0dd812c5="bruman"]Anyone having any log-in problems? I can only log-in from one of my e-mail addresses[/quote1b0dd812c5]

I got the same problem. I'm using the same email for YTB and brandarama- none are currently working. I kept getting the same error code. I'll hold off sending an email until tomorrow.

yingyang

29-11-2007 01:22:16

I went approved today. I was wondering if any of you have ever changed the address the gift gets shipped to, and how you go about it. At the present rate, it looks like Brandarama would take 3-4 more months to ship amex and I might be moving before then. Could I have it shipped to another address? Anyone else done this?

RolltheStampede

29-11-2007 06:00:06

i think you can call them when you mobve to update your shipping address

benedict

29-11-2007 09:16:11

[quote352a06f126="yingyang"]I went approved today. I was wondering if any of you have ever changed the address the gift gets shipped to, and how you go about it. At the present rate, it looks like Brandarama would take 3-4 more months to ship amex and I might be moving before then. Could I have it shipped to another address? Anyone else done this?[/quote352a06f126]

to go about changing your shipping address, just login and click the confirm button and it should take you to a page where you can edit the shipping information and it will generate a new confirmation page for you.

RyanG

29-11-2007 09:54:37

[quote7ae3aab26b="benedict"][quote7ae3aab26b="yingyang"]I went approved today. I was wondering if any of you have ever changed the address the gift gets shipped to, and how you go about it. At the present rate, it looks like Brandarama would take 3-4 more months to ship amex and I might be moving before then. Could I have it shipped to another address? Anyone else done this?[/quote7ae3aab26b]

to go about changing your shipping address, just login and click the confirm button and it should take you to a page where you can edit the shipping information and it will generate a new confirmation page for you.[/quote7ae3aab26b]

Easier than that, just call them or send an e-mail. That's how I did it and it was easy.

fbskiracer

30-11-2007 06:46:03

So I was confirmed is late october/first week in november for the $1350 sports authority card. What are the odds it will get to me by the end of january?

RolltheStampede

30-11-2007 07:04:07

about 2%

kingsmoit

30-11-2007 09:30:36

Well, store cards do ship earlier. But probably closer to 3 months than 2.

zr2152

30-11-2007 10:40:32

[quotecfe006bde4="fbskiracer"]So I was confirmed is late october/first week in november for the $1350 sports authority card. What are the odds it will get to me by the end of january?[/quotecfe006bde4]

I've heard of people getting those as early as 2 months.

mookieb2

30-11-2007 12:00:15

Anybody get credits yet today? What time do they usually go through on Fridays?

dubbin87

30-11-2007 12:12:13

[quoteda33e210d1="mookieb2"]Anybody get credits yet today? What time do they usually go through on Fridays?[/quoteda33e210d1]

I got my certs already.

jmommy79@yahoo.com

30-11-2007 12:39:10

I got my credits today! Finally the last credit went through for the 4 offer $1000 visa! Thought I would never get it...I was having bad luck with offers there for awhile...been working on it since early July!!

RolltheStampede

30-11-2007 12:44:17

i got a few credits, hopefully it not done for the day

beerman

30-11-2007 14:47:43

[quote90e4e81215="fbskiracer"]So I was confirmed is late october/first week in november for the $1350 sports authority card. What are the odds it will get to me by the end of january?[/quote90e4e81215]

I was confirmed on 9/6, still no gift for me...count on 3 months minimum...

hum1m9e8r8b

30-11-2007 16:42:15

I got credit yesterday for Critic's Choice.

Swat1

01-12-2007 10:17:23

[quote1fc9e122b7="fbskiracer"]So I was confirmed is late october/first week in november for the $1350 sports authority card. What are the odds it will get to me by the end of january?[/quote1fc9e122b7]

Im on the sept ship list and i haven't gotten it yet...

btw, 'late october" and "first week in november" are totally different. they stick you in monthly ship lists. so please specify the date.

sjbppd

04-12-2007 01:27:27

what's a ship list?

zr2152

04-12-2007 07:41:39

[quotec3d31d31c2="sjbppd"]what's a ship list?[/quotec3d31d31c2]


Really?

the list of users who are getting their gifts shipped.

mookieb2

04-12-2007 11:09:22

My mom just called and told me that she got her last credit for her $1,000 gift card today.

Have they switched to a Tuesday crediting cycle becuase of the holiday? I had told her that she would probably get credit last Fri. but she didn't, then I remembered that last week I got all credits for a site on Tues.

Don't know if this represents a policy change or not. Just Curious as to what you guys think.

manOFice

04-12-2007 11:19:06

[quote14f5aa1fa3="mookieb2"]My mom just called and told me that she got her last credit for her $1,000 gift card today.

Have they switched to a Tuesday crediting cycle becuase of the holiday? I had told her that she would probably get credit last Fri. but she didn't, then I remembered that last week I got all credits for a site on Tues.

Don't know if this represents a policy change or not. Just Curious as to what you guys think.[/quote14f5aa1fa3]

They never only credited on friday, credits come in on any day of the week, it was just mainly friday in the past

mookieb2

04-12-2007 11:23:11

Oh, OK. I had thought that it was just fridays.

Thanks for the clarification.

dubbin87

04-12-2007 13:31:53

Reading back a few pages it almost looks like some have had the same problems as me, I was doing an offer and had 4 of them go complete back on friday, Today I check to see if anymore went and I had lost two offers.

I contacted CS and they said they have nothing in thier revenue records as me having 4 items credited. I'm kinda hoping that this maybe be related to the glitches they were having last week, but I dunno.

supersponger1979

05-12-2007 21:15:42

I did 2 offers for the Sports Authority 1350 gift card...Anyone think they will send the actual gift card to sports authority?

zr2152

05-12-2007 21:23:11

Yeah they do.

climed

05-12-2007 21:39:35

[quotea70427522c="supersponger1979"]I did 2 offers for the Sports Authority 1350 gift card...Anyone think they will send the actual gift card to sports authority?[/quotea70427522c]
Yes, they almost always send the advertised gift.

beerman

05-12-2007 22:19:01

Has anyone who was confirmed in August or september received thier Sports Authority cards yet?

fbskiracer

06-12-2007 11:29:35

beerman based on my own research on the subject the answer is not everyone

sjbppd

07-12-2007 01:43:13

[quote153951961f="zr2152"][quote153951961f="sjbppd"]what's a ship list?[/quote153951961f]


Really?

the list of users who are getting their gifts shipped.[/quote153951961f]

Where can I find it?

zr2152

07-12-2007 07:37:05

[quote680d5c94c7="sjbppd"][quote680d5c94c7="zr2152"][quote680d5c94c7="sjbppd"]what's a ship list?[/quote680d5c94c7]


Really?

the list of users who are getting their gifts shipped.[/quote680d5c94c7]

Where can I find it?[/quote680d5c94c7]

You cant. It is theirs and they do not share it.

ghounds07

07-12-2007 12:06:14

well worked perfectly for me this week, did 3 offers yesterday, all 3 credited today and am sending in my forms...perfect.

orangejuice

07-12-2007 14:30:44

another friday and they havent shipped any visas. lol. im at 6 months on mine..

michae229

07-12-2007 16:18:48

for real i emailed they said they are still on Junes whoever said July is wrong.

zr2152

07-12-2007 19:11:48

[quoteddad3d95f1="michae229"]for real i emailed they said they are still on Junes whoever said July is wrong.[/quoteddad3d95f1]

I called them and they told me they were finishing up Junes and then shipping july's this month.

That is what the lady told me.

bruman

07-12-2007 20:19:51

They lady told me they are buying the $1,000 VISAs.. they said they have a really extensive list this month.
I have a $500 VISA July 3rd, they said the $500 VISA's were going to take longer (probably january).

tylerc

07-12-2007 23:46:36

So they will be shipping the $1000 Visas from July this month? What about $500 AMEX?

RolltheStampede

10-12-2007 07:18:53

amexes are shipping august in january i think is what they said

Swat1

11-12-2007 12:47:36

What about the Sport authority GC? I'm pretty sure september is up next but have they pushed it back another month?

RolltheStampede

11-12-2007 13:21:31

no one has recieved any thing for a while

hiddenbelow

11-12-2007 22:16:42

What is the timeline on them changing from Qualified need confirmation after they do in fact recieve your certs.

They have had mine DC# a little over 2 weeks now and nothing has changed? Anyone give me a heads up on this?

Thanks

DW

freeipodplayer

12-12-2007 00:42:00

[quote2b607dfac3="hiddenbelow"]What is the timeline on them changing from Qualified need confirmation after they do in fact recieve your certs.

They have had mine DC# a little over 2 weeks now and nothing has changed? Anyone give me a heads up on this?

Thanks

DW[/quote2b607dfac3]

Within the week you should be confirmed... but it has taken upto a month before, for me.

freeipodplayer

12-12-2007 00:42:34

[quotea01af4d06b="RolltheStampede"]amexes are shipping august in january i think is what they said[/quotea01af4d06b]

jesus, I was hoping for my by now...

gengwall

12-12-2007 07:13:30

Question on how to read brandarama status page. I am doing a $500 GC (on yourtopbrands) for 3 offers. My status page shows that an offer is completed but it also still says 1 offer is needed on each of the three offer pages. The text is below. Why does the page 2 line (where I did this offer) still say 1 offer is needed? How do I know they credited my offer to the correct page, or any page?

[quote4563f93c1a]PetFirst completed

Still need to complete
Page 1 1 offer
Page 2 1 offer
Page 3 1 offer[/quote4563f93c1a]

beerman

12-12-2007 07:25:10

That "Still need to Complete" part is broke and has been for a while. you need to keep track of which offer you did on which page, once you complete the requirements you'll be able to print off your forms.
Good luck...

gengwall

12-12-2007 07:26:17

[quote9e6e2fcab6="beerman1976"]That "Still need to Complete" part is broke and has been for a while. you need to keep track of which offer you did on which page, once you complete the requirements you'll be able to print off your forms.
Good luck...[/quote9e6e2fcab6]Cool - thanks

nbonsu26

12-12-2007 09:03:58

I am still waiting on the Hoodia offer to approve for the BestBuy Card $500 3 offers


I am confirmed ship on both of my macys cards

1 Since Oct. 12th the other since nov 15th

supersponger1979

12-12-2007 16:52:19

[quote7a2a936550="zr2152"][quote7a2a936550="fbskiracer"]So I was confirmed is late october/first week in november for the $1350 sports authority card. What are the odds it will get to me by the end of january?[/quote7a2a936550]

I've heard of people getting those as early as 2 months.[/quote7a2a936550]

I have 2 of 5 offers complete...Will they send the actual SA gift card?

tylerc

12-12-2007 16:59:30

Yes. Brandarama sends actual gifts.

freeipodplayer

13-12-2007 00:09:22

[quote6571d6e393="zr2152"][quote6571d6e393="michae229"]for real i emailed they said they are still on Junes whoever said July is wrong.[/quote6571d6e393]

I called them and they told me they were finishing up Junes and then shipping july's this month.

That is what the lady told me.[/quote6571d6e393]

Thats funny, I was Confirmed June 29th, and received my 1000 visa probably 2 months ago now....

mookieb2

13-12-2007 14:28:04

Just went shipped today on an Aug. 5th CTS $500 Amex.

Woo-Hoo!

supersponger1979

13-12-2007 15:15:00

Anyone having problems with the brandarama sites? On the 1350 Sports Authority gift card one I cant get past pg1 one it says "thank you gor you time." All 4 pages came up yesterday...?

freeipodplayer

13-12-2007 15:18:01

[quote1b28fe59b1="mookieb2"]Just went shipped today on an Aug. 5th CTS $500 Amex.

Woo-Hoo![/quote1b28fe59b1]

good stuff. sounds like august is going out.

bruman

13-12-2007 15:35:59

I'm august 10th and I'm still C2S (
Only 5 days apart... what gives?

RyanG

13-12-2007 15:50:40

That's weird. CTS Aug 3rd here and no ship yet. Guess timeline is different for each site.

thatpnkchnkgrle

13-12-2007 16:28:36

that is weird. im august 20 something and i went shipped

bruman

13-12-2007 16:31:26

What site are you guys going shipped on?

freeipodplayer

13-12-2007 16:50:33

[quote75f6c44b1b="RyanG"]That's weird. CTS Aug 3rd here and no ship yet. Guess timeline is different for each site.[/quote75f6c44b1b]

it is different for each site.

I know, I had a 500 amex from brandarama, and a 500 from rewardsparade confirm the same month, but shipped 2 different months.

RyanG

13-12-2007 18:26:57

People are thinking it's the same for all sites so much it made me believe it.

thatpnkchnkgrle

13-12-2007 19:04:39

[quote37fa2bc6c7="bruman"]What site are you guys going shipped on?[/quote37fa2bc6c7]

$500 AMEx

zr2152

13-12-2007 19:18:07

[quotea0c75cf13b="thatpnkchnkgrle"][quotea0c75cf13b="bruman"]What site are you guys going shipped on?[/quotea0c75cf13b]

$500 AMEx[/quotea0c75cf13b]

There are many different sites for a 500 amex (ytb, rewards parade, householdsavings club).

Whcih site is your account on.

mookieb2

13-12-2007 19:24:14

Mine is Rewards Parade

thatpnkchnkgrle

13-12-2007 19:39:06

same here- rewards parade

jmommy79@yahoo.com

13-12-2007 20:13:53

Mine is rewards parade too...confirmed to be shipped Aug. 3! Hopefully mine will ship tomorrow!!

bruman

13-12-2007 21:23:29

[quoteaca77b955b="jmommy79@yahoo.com"]Mine is rewards parade too...confirmed to be shipped Aug. 3! Hopefully mine will ship tomorrow!![/quoteaca77b955b]

Hmm... that's weird.

So you are August 3rd confirmed to ship on RewardsParade
and someone else is August 5th shipped on RewardsParade

jmommy79@yahoo.com

13-12-2007 22:02:30

[quote0eb331f943="bruman"][quote0eb331f943="jmommy79@yahoo.com"]Mine is rewards parade too...confirmed to be shipped Aug. 3! Hopefully mine will ship tomorrow!![/quote0eb331f943]

Hmm... that's weird.

So you are August 3rd confirmed to ship on RewardsParade
and someone else is August 5th shipped on RewardsParade[/quote0eb331f943]

Yes that's correct...I hope I'm going to still get mine!

figgarro

14-12-2007 08:36:35

Has anybody been able to get the cash off an AMEX card? I know the Visa card come with a pin number but not the Amex card.

RolltheStampede

14-12-2007 08:59:23

i remeber someone saying something about taking the amex to wally world, gettign a visa and withdrawing it that way

freeipodplayer

14-12-2007 10:01:41

[quoteb032384fa3="RolltheStampede"]i remeber someone saying something about taking the amex to wally world, gettign a visa and withdrawing it that way[/quoteb032384fa3]

walmart doesnt sell those anymore... not many other visa's come with pin's either.

supersponger1979

14-12-2007 10:17:48

[quotef3b86d76c5="supersponger1979"]Anyone having problems with the brandarama sites? On the 1350 Sports Authority gift card one I cant get past pg1 one it says "thank you gor you time." All 4 pages came up yesterday...?[/quotef3b86d76c5]

Fixed, I needed to clear my cookies. Anyone had any luck with Columbia House DVD box set offer crediting? Thanks

kidd2108

14-12-2007 10:59:42

[quote14aaa74669="freeipodplayer"][quote14aaa74669="RolltheStampede"]i remeber someone saying something about taking the amex to wally world, gettign a visa and withdrawing it that way[/quote14aaa74669]

walmart doesnt sell those anymore... not many other visa's come with pin's either.[/quote14aaa74669]

mastercard greendot at CVS or your local pharmacy.

Only downside is they require your SS# to prevent fraud.

freeipodplayer

14-12-2007 11:34:02

[quote0dc8d3ba8d="kidd2108"][quote0dc8d3ba8d="freeipodplayer"][quote0dc8d3ba8d="RolltheStampede"]i remeber someone saying something about taking the amex to wally world, gettign a visa and withdrawing it that way[/quote0dc8d3ba8d]

walmart doesnt sell those anymore... not many other visa's come with pin's either.[/quote0dc8d3ba8d]

mastercard greendot at CVS or your local pharmacy.

Only downside is they require your SS# to prevent fraud.[/quote0dc8d3ba8d]

i know those ask for a SS#, but do they even come with a pin number? doubtful.

kidd2108

14-12-2007 12:55:23

[quote7a3535392c="freeipodplayer"][quote7a3535392c="kidd2108"][quote7a3535392c="freeipodplayer"][quote7a3535392c="RolltheStampede"]i remeber someone saying something about taking the amex to wally world, gettign a visa and withdrawing it that way[/quote7a3535392c]

walmart doesnt sell those anymore... not many other visa's come with pin's either.[/quote7a3535392c]

mastercard greendot at CVS or your local pharmacy.

Only downside is they require your SS# to prevent fraud.[/quote7a3535392c]

i know those ask for a SS#, but do they even come with a pin number? doubtful.[/quote7a3535392c]

yes.

RolltheStampede

14-12-2007 14:29:11

sweet CVS ill be seeing you in a month.

figgarro

14-12-2007 15:02:49

Not sure if you have a walgreens where you at buy they are offering a $9.95 rebate on the green dot cards for the activations fee.

dmorris68

14-12-2007 15:04:02

[quote7c631f196e="freeipodplayer"][quote7c631f196e="kidd2108"][quote7c631f196e="freeipodplayer"][quote7c631f196e="RolltheStampede"]i remeber someone saying something about taking the amex to wally world, gettign a visa and withdrawing it that way[/quote7c631f196e]

walmart doesnt sell those anymore... not many other visa's come with pin's either.[/quote7c631f196e]

mastercard greendot at CVS or your local pharmacy.

Only downside is they require your SS# to prevent fraud.[/quote7c631f196e]

i know those ask for a SS#, but do they even come with a pin number? doubtful.[/quote7c631f196e]
Yes, but be aware of a couple of things

1. GreenDot actually issues you a debit card with your name on it. The thing you pickup in the store isn't the real card -- they mail it to you. It's like a regular bank account debit card, which is why they need all your info. The account remains open and reloadable, it isn't disposable like the fixed-value gift cards.

2. Some stores won't accept anything but cash for giftcards. Others will take a debit card, but I've seen some even refuse those. None are supposed to take credit cards for them, so if your gift card is processed as credit rather than debit (and since the whole point behind this is you not having a PIN), you're probably going to have a hard time buying another card with it.

misscrystal

14-12-2007 15:38:06

Question

I parked the 2500 scholarship website back in August, but decided against doing it.

But now that I-Deal has gone into the shitter, I've started considering Brandarama sites.

I have until February 27, 2008 to finish all my offers. So if I start doing offers early Jan., how good are my chances of getting all 14 offers approved before the 27th of Feb?

ghounds07

14-12-2007 16:06:56

^^ good.

freeipodplayer

14-12-2007 16:55:38

[quotec45b8da254="dmorris68"][quotec45b8da254="freeipodplayer"][quotec45b8da254="kidd2108"][quotec45b8da254="freeipodplayer"][quotec45b8da254="RolltheStampede"]i remeber someone saying something about taking the amex to wally world, gettign a visa and withdrawing it that way[/quotec45b8da254]

walmart doesnt sell those anymore... not many other visa's come with pin's either.[/quotec45b8da254]

mastercard greendot at CVS or your local pharmacy.

Only downside is they require your SS# to prevent fraud.[/quotec45b8da254]

i know those ask for a SS#, but do they even come with a pin number? doubtful.[/quotec45b8da254]
Yes, but be aware of a couple of things

1. GreenDot actually issues you a debit card with your name on it. The thing you pickup in the store isn't the real card -- they mail it to you. It's like a regular bank account debit card, which is why they need all your info. The account remains open and reloadable, it isn't disposable like the fixed-value gift cards.

2. Some stores won't accept anything but cash for giftcards. Others will take a debit card, but I've seen some even refuse those. None are supposed to take credit cards for them, so if your gift card is processed as credit rather than debit (and since the whole point behind this is you not having a PIN), you're probably going to have a hard time buying another card with it.[/quotec45b8da254]

The cvs near me lets me pay with my CC, no problems. D

The question still remains, do the Green Dot cards come with a PIN number so we can withdraw cash?

I mean, my bank even sells Visa gift cards, those don't even come with PIN's.

mariners1999

14-12-2007 17:05:07

Use it to pay bills. That is what I did. Paid the Cel bill, cable bill, etc. for a few months. Then just kept the cash in my checking account that I would have used to pay the bills. That was the cheapest way to use the card for no fees.

M

steveyankee

14-12-2007 21:36:59

There's an easy way to get your money back too, at best buy.

Use the $500 Amex to buy a $500+ video camera.

Exchange it for a $600+ video camera (just say you want a better quality one), pay the difference with your own personal debit/credit card.

Once you get the new receipt, return the $700 camera a couple days later. The whole $700 will go back to your personal debit/credit card.

slambam

15-12-2007 05:55:15

[quoted1de6df848="misscrystal"]Question

I parked the 2500 scholarship website back in August, but decided against doing it.

But now that I-Deal has gone into the shitter, I've started considering Brandarama sites.

I have until February 27, 2008 to finish all my offers. So if I start doing offers early Jan., how good are my chances of getting all 14 offers approved before the 27th of Feb?[/quoted1de6df848]

I believe the 6 months starts when you do the first offer. I have the 4 offer $1000 Visa parked and just started doing it last week, and it's well over 6 months old...

$1000 Visa Gift Card
Not Qualified
[Apr-25-07 1241 PM]

bruman

15-12-2007 08:06:19

They already said they are not enforcing the 6 month rule

misscrystal

15-12-2007 12:51:34

[quote3a8a88b61c="bruman"]They already said they are not enforcing the 6 month rule[/quote3a8a88b61c]

Awesome. D I'll start it after Christmas since I'm tapped out. I might be able to use this to pay for my summer school classes. I'll be getting it in June or July anyway P

freeipodplayer

15-12-2007 14:52:00

[quote337450db12="misscrystal"][quote337450db12="bruman"]They already said they are not enforcing the 6 month rule[/quote337450db12]

Awesome. D I'll start it after Christmas since I'm tapped out. I might be able to use this to pay for my summer school classes. I'll be getting it in June or July anyway P[/quote337450db12]

They are currently 6 months or so behind on the Visa's, and with the amount of people jumping onto the Brandarama bandwagon, I can only imagine it getting longer.

orangejuice

15-12-2007 18:36:50

yeah, i hope they dont go out of business....

zr2152

15-12-2007 23:07:45

[quote63809846ca="orangejuice"]yeah, i hope they dont go out of business....[/quote63809846ca]

They are behind cause they can only order a certain amount of Visa's per month (per visa's terms in assuming). Also, June and July had the most site visits all year. I bet they get caught up once they get those shipped out and get back on the 6-8 week schedule within the next few months.

freeipodplayer

16-12-2007 00:42:34

[quote9ac99ec329="zr2152"][quote9ac99ec329="orangejuice"]yeah, i hope they dont go out of business....[/quote9ac99ec329]

They are behind cause they can only order a certain amount of Visa's per month (per visa's terms in assuming). Also, June and July had the most site visits all year. I bet they get caught up once they get those shipped out and get back on the 6-8 week schedule within the next few months.[/quote9ac99ec329]

Back to a 6-8 week schedule? haha, they havent been on a 6-8 week schedule in the past year!

Shit, even my sear gc from 10 months ago took 4 months.

supersponger1979

18-12-2007 17:13:31

Anyone ever had the Columbia House DVD box set offer credit? I signed up last Wed and it did not credit on Friday...This was on brandarama. Thanks

RolltheStampede

19-12-2007 06:46:27

i think someone said it had.

supersponger1979

20-12-2007 08:18:48

Anyone been able to contact support either by email or phone? It has been a week since I sent mine, I know support usually answers emails same day.

RolltheStampede

20-12-2007 09:46:59

i called yesterday, what your question that wont be answered by simply wait longer

beerman

20-12-2007 11:47:29

[quoteacf8b892c3="RolltheStampede"]what your question that wont be answered by simply wait longer[/quoteacf8b892c3]

what?

choice

20-12-2007 14:07:16

is it fine if the email address i inititally sign up with through the brandarama initial portal, and the email address i use for offers are different?

i notice sometimes when you click on offers , clicking through from brandarama, they sort of autofill the form for you. just wondering

supersponger1979

21-12-2007 15:19:31

Columbia House DVD box set club credited for me today...YEAH!

zr2152

26-12-2007 01:53:17

My gf's netflix credited in a little over 4 weeks on the HHSC 500 visa.

nbonsu26

26-12-2007 05:28:06

Yeah Columbia house took like 7 days for me D !

edgespeeder04

26-12-2007 12:45:24

hey for the sports authority giftcards, whats the shippin time on them? i was approved in sept.

nbonsu26

26-12-2007 14:19:16

Good for you I still have to complete that site you will probably get in in Feburary lol . Good luck.

Zags1199

28-12-2007 00:55:34

Has anyone actually gone shipped recently? None of mine from August have changed yet.

orangejuice

28-12-2007 01:15:16

I'm not sure if they will ever ship now to be honest...

maverik

28-12-2007 10:26:39

[quotedf758c5c65="Zags1199"]Has anyone actually gone shipped recently? None of mine from August have changed yet.[/quotedf758c5c65]

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-28-07 1140 AM]

Confirmed in August

Zags1199

28-12-2007 10:39:31

Wow...do you remember what day or about what time of the month you were confirmed? Mine are from about the 20th on.

supersponger1979

28-12-2007 10:41:58

Any new sites people found recently for any brandarama sites? Thanks!

edgespeeder04

28-12-2007 11:01:08

[quote3c6fe6aa43="maverik"][quote3c6fe6aa43="Zags1199"]Has anyone actually gone shipped recently? None of mine from August have changed yet.[/quote3c6fe6aa43]

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-28-07 1140 AM]

Confirmed in August[/quote3c6fe6aa43]


congrats that probably shut someone else mouth up there ^^^^ lmao.........i hope mine from july, august, and september arent too far off D

bruman

28-12-2007 11:05:03

I'm August 10th on TrustedRewards $500 Amex and not shipped (

orangejuice

28-12-2007 11:11:32

Same here am Aug 31st on that one. Probably will be another month before we see it

manOFice

28-12-2007 13:50:34

I hope no one is working on the cruise site....this is a response to a issue I contacted them about

"Ok. It looks like there is a problem with this gift item. This gift is not yet running. They are still working on getting everything updated and ready for this gift item. It is not even registered yet in our database for the Brandarama website. So, since you were able to somehow see this promotion they are wondering if you can send to us the information on how you received it. Can you send us a link to the offer or a copy of the email you received if you received this via email? Any information you can give to us on how you received information towards this offer would be helpful. As it is not yet ready we need to figure out how you received it to prevent possible problems. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for any additional help or information you can give to us in regards to this gift offer. "

freeipodplayer

28-12-2007 21:26:57

holy shit... i found that site thru google.

ryndne

29-12-2007 08:19:02

[quote0b689c0d72="Zags1199"]Has anyone actually gone shipped recently? None of mine from August have changed yet.[/quote0b689c0d72]

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-28-07 1139 AM]

confirmed to ship originally ~ Aug 20

freeipodplayer

29-12-2007 08:26:56

[quotec4426201a1="ryndne"][quotec4426201a1="Zags1199"]Has anyone actually gone shipped recently? None of mine from August have changed yet.[/quotec4426201a1]

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-28-07 1139 AM]

confirmed to ship originally ~ Aug 20[/quotec4426201a1]

Which site is this Amex from though.... All the sites, for all the Amex's, do not have the same schedule.

thatpnkchnkgrle

29-12-2007 22:39:09

My status just changed from "Shipped" to "Could not deliver". Anyone ever get this?

RyanG

29-12-2007 23:44:46

[quote399e14b0ef="thatpnkchnkgrle"]My status just changed from "Shipped" to "Could not deliver". Anyone ever get this?[/quote399e14b0ef]

I'd call them ASAP on Monday, and send an e-mail now. Did you not sign for the card? Usually you are given 2-3 attempts from USPS to deliver it, and if you don't go pick it up or are there to sign for it, they will send it back to the original sender.

mookieb2

30-12-2007 09:01:32

It happened to me. My postman never left me a notice to go sign for it. Brandarama is great with customer service and will re-send,. Just send an email and they will work it out.

freeipodplayer

30-12-2007 11:10:36

[quote462c3b0d09="thatpnkchnkgrle"]My status just changed from "Shipped" to "Could not deliver". Anyone ever get this?[/quote462c3b0d09]

Your postman sucks.

Call or email right away.

tylerc

30-12-2007 12:19:21

Yeah I got this too, I got nothing left in the mailbox, and someone was home every day when the mail came too.

thatpnkchnkgrle

30-12-2007 13:29:53

Great. I checked the mail everyday since it went shipped. Stupid postman...did not even leave a notice.

btw- thanks for the replies

edgespeeder04

30-12-2007 14:35:09

why do u have to sign for it? ive never had to sign for something from them

tylerc

30-12-2007 15:15:10

Er..? They send everything Certified Mail.

manOFice

30-12-2007 17:57:10

stupid postal guys...

edgespeeder04

30-12-2007 18:54:38

[quote12eec4d52a="tylerc"]Er..? They send everything Certified Mail.[/quote12eec4d52a]

not for me.........ive gotten my gas cards my $600 visa in a regular envelope in my mailbox

WEBDIZZY

30-12-2007 21:04:17

Has anyone gotten credit for Boca Java on a Brandarama site? If yes, how long did it take? I completed it on 12/8 and received my first shipment already.

kidd2108

31-12-2007 01:03:31

[quoted775b2e319="tylerc"]Er..? They send everything Certified Mail.[/quoted775b2e319]

My mailman just dropped it off with no signature even though it had the green signature thing in the back to sign for it. I guess its better than leaving no sign and returning it to brandarama.

supersponger1979

31-12-2007 08:49:35

[quote46d552cda2="WEBDIZZY"]Has anyone gotten credit for Boca Java on a Brandarama site? If yes, how long did it take? I completed it on 12/8 and received my first shipment already.[/quote46d552cda2]

Mine credited fairly quickly...defintely no as long as yours is taking.

RFree

31-12-2007 12:33:16

Still waiting on my $500 Best Buy Card to be shipped. Went confirmed on 9/11. ( ?

supersponger1979

31-12-2007 14:48:27

If anyone has a problem with Columbia House, here is the phone number (I had a hell of a time finding it) 1-800-262-2001...The lady was very nice though )

tylerc

03-01-2008 12:39:16

Just an FYI for everyone, my $500 AMEX form RewardsParade was shipped mid-December, then said "Could Not Deliver" on 12/26, so I called yesterday, and now my status says "Shipped" again. If anyone else is having this problem, just call, they confirm your address and send it out again.

supersponger1979

04-01-2008 09:00:57

Got qualified for $1350 Sports Authority card today! YEAH!

nbonsu26

04-01-2008 11:58:38

Yay one more offer for my $300 Neiman Marcus Card


Confirmed to be ship for $500 worth of Macys Cards ! D

edgespeeder04

04-01-2008 12:08:01

[quote6fa517b862="supersponger1979"]Got qualified for $1350 Sports Authority card today! YEAH![/quote6fa517b862]


ooo i remember my day in september.....now i cant wait to go on a shopping spree..........fishing equipment and nice warm clothes lol if it gets here before summer

beerman

04-01-2008 12:13:32

me too! Come-on Brandarama ship September, I want some sports gear!!!!!

and a side note, a friend sold his on ebay, got about $380, not bad, but I rather have some cool sports gear..

freeipodplayer

04-01-2008 15:04:29

[quote2d99c60e9d="beerman1976"]me too! Come-on Brandarama ship September, I want some sports gear!!!!!

and a side note, a friend sold his on ebay, got about $380, not bad, but I rather have some cool sports gear..[/quote2d99c60e9d]

With mine, I bought 2 mountain bikes, a bike rack for the car, AND I sold the rest for 700 bucks! Not bad for 5 offers, eh?

supersponger1979

04-01-2008 17:29:00

Nice job players!

nbonsu26

04-01-2008 18:07:31

I got to do five offers still lol December I want some skis lol !

nbonsu26

04-01-2008 18:12:54

Oh yeah does anyone know when Brandarama might get some more offers lol do I have to wait another month !

beerman

04-01-2008 19:59:31

nope, that's why I went to nuitech, better gifts and quicker shipping!

orangejuice

04-01-2008 22:04:23

assuming nuitech is gonna pay out and not F people

beerman

04-01-2008 22:07:31

[quote40d1393638="orangejuice"]assuming nuitech is gonna pay out and not F people[/quote40d1393638]

That's what I'm hoping for wink

WEBDIZZY

08-01-2008 18:55:10

Has anyone every gotten credit for an offer on a Brandarama site after submitting their confirmation email to support after waiting the 30 days they require you to wait? I still haven't received credit for Boca Java (completed 12/8 and the last credit I need) but I don't want to do another offer unless I really have to because I'm VERY limited on what's left that I haven't already done.

slambam

08-01-2008 18:58:57

There not too good at giving missing credit when it's requested from what I hear. I put in for two offers that I need and have yet to get it, it was only a few days ago though.

beerman

08-01-2008 18:58:59

yes, but it takes a long time, a loooong time!

chewy

08-01-2008 19:10:02

[quote6ff5d4039e="WEBDIZZY"]Has anyone every gotten credit for an offer on a Brandarama site after submitting their confirmation email to support after waiting the 30 days they require you to wait? I still haven't received credit for Boca Java (completed 12/8 and the last credit I need) but I don't want to do another offer unless I really have to because I'm VERY limited on what's left that I haven't already done.[/quote6ff5d4039e]

they do eventually credit you you just have to keep emailing them periodically, being polite of course.

slambam

08-01-2008 19:36:08

Any idea how long eventually is? Is it worth the wait? I just started the 4 offer $1000 Visa I had parked and just put in missing credit request for the 2 offers that didnt credit (other 2 did), but I guess I have a long wait after I get approved and everything anyway...

bruman

08-01-2008 19:37:06

[quoteae5004937f="slambam"]Any idea how long eventually is? Is it worth the wait? I just started the 4 offer $1000 Visa I had parked and just put in missing credit request for the 2 offers that didnt credit (other 2 did), but I guess I have a long wait after I get approved and everything anyway...[/quoteae5004937f]

I've been waiting over a half a year ago and I'm still not shipped yet. I was confirmed July 3rd. That should give you an idea.

zr2152

08-01-2008 19:37:22

yeah probably 6 months, im on 5 now.

slambam

08-01-2008 19:53:44

How long for manual credit, if it ever works out?

WEBDIZZY

08-01-2008 19:55:09

I'm not referring to a wait on the gift; I'm referring to credit for an offer. I know gifts can take up to 6 months. I once tried for 4 months just to get credit on a couple of offers (politely emailing several times) and finally gave up. I don't want to do that again.

beerman

09-01-2008 01:09:01

Just to clearify, I was refering to offer manually crediting. it takes a looong time, most people just give up and do a rreplacement offer. Currently I am waiting on 4 manual creits, it have been well over 30 days. IThey do credit after some time though....

ILoveToys

09-01-2008 12:20:40

You will eventually get manual, but it's not worth the wait.

RolltheStampede

09-01-2008 13:11:52

[quoteb1ea93e228="ILoveToys"]You [bb1ea93e228]may[/bb1ea93e228] eventually get manual, but it's not worth the wait.[/quoteb1ea93e228]


there fixed

heather77

09-01-2008 14:03:08

I have the same problem, I'm waiting on manual credit for 2 offers from USASurveyGroup, and it has been longer than 30 days since I submitted my emails. They recently got back to me and said that my claim was still being processed and they have no control over how long it will take. I would love to do replacement offers, but I don't think I can without repeating offers unless they post something new. I guess I don't have a choice except to wait. This was my first Brandarama site, btw, and I didn't know there were better ones than 8-offer $500 gcs...LOL...

RolltheStampede

09-01-2008 14:38:26

[quote4999ca3c77="heather77"] I didn't know there were better ones than 8-offer $500 gcs...LOL...[/quote4999ca3c77]

well now you know and knowing is half the battle.

heather77

09-01-2008 15:02:41

GI JOE!
heehee

heather77

14-01-2008 11:43:40

OK, I checked the threads and I didn't see the answer to this question...
Can you do 2 different gifts from the same site? I did the Yourtopbrands best buy gift card and now i want to do the yourtopbrands 1000 visa. I signed up and the status shows up on the same page, but I haven't done any offers yet (I need them to change the last page so I can actually complete it) I figured I had time to wait if you get 180 days to complete it...

cubbieco

14-01-2008 15:33:44

As far as I know the answer is yes. I'm pretty sure but you might want to wait to hear from somebody who has actually done it.

wiebelhaus03

14-01-2008 15:35:51

yes you can

prizejunkie

14-01-2008 19:49:41

has anyone recieved the 2500 check?

michae229

14-01-2008 20:21:43

[quoteac7be2d512="prizejunkie"]has anyone recieved the 2500 check?[/quoteac7be2d512]

for real i am 1 offer away from finishing

RolltheStampede

14-01-2008 20:21:56

i think there were some people confirmed in septembet or august

beerman

14-01-2008 20:32:34

I'm confirmed november 6th....so may/june (fingerscrossed)

I really hope the "checks ship faster" is true )

thatpnkchnkgrle

14-01-2008 23:11:04

i was confirmed in nov as well. when i called last mo to check on it, they said they were shipping those confirmed in aug.

tiffrnwhitney

15-01-2008 06:47:04

I was confirmed to ship on Sept. 10th for the scholarship. I will post when I receive!

beerman

15-01-2008 11:34:17

Finally!

$500 Sears Gift Card
Shipped
[Jan-15-08 1213 PM]

Confirmed 8/25
householdsavingsclub

bruman

15-01-2008 12:56:20

Amex shipped too! woohoo!

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[Jan-15-08 1207 PM]

ILoveToys

15-01-2008 13:02:57

When were you CTS bruman?

bruman

15-01-2008 13:05:00

January 10th TrustedRewards..

I also had another $500 Amex RewardsParade confirmed on August 24th and that is saying shipped as well.

I am a little worried that I will only be getting one though, becuase they both shipped at the same time (1207) -- or do all the amexs note shipped at the same time for everyone?

It was the same layout/gift, but I was confirmed before they started enforcing that rule, so...

michae229

15-01-2008 13:05:47

[quotee572a3e237="bruman"]January 10th TrustedRewards..

I also had another $500 Amex RewardsParade confirmed on August 24th and that is saying shipped as well.

I am a little worried that I will only be getting one though, becuase they both shipped at the same time (1207).

It was the same layout/gift, but I was confirmed before they started enforcing that rule, so...[/quotee572a3e237]

you will get both i did

orangejuice

15-01-2008 13:06:05

Now wait a minute, when were you confirmed for TrustedRewards? It wasnt january 10th...was it in august?

bruman

15-01-2008 13:07:16

[quote175150d772="michae229"][quote175150d772="bruman"]January 10th TrustedRewards..

I also had another $500 Amex RewardsParade confirmed on August 24th and that is saying shipped as well.

I am a little worried that I will only be getting one though, becuase they both shipped at the same time (1207).

It was the same layout/gift, but I was confirmed before they started enforcing that rule, so...[/quote175150d772]

you will get both i did[/quote175150d772]

Thanks ) That gives me hope. When did you receive both of yours? Were they also on the same month/shipped at the same time?

bruman

15-01-2008 13:07:42

[quotedbd0c5358a="orangejuice"]Now wait a minute, when were you confirmed for TrustedRewards? It wasnt january 10th...was it in august?[/quotedbd0c5358a]

Ah.. yeah, you're right. Sorry. AUGUST 10th.

ILoveToys

15-01-2008 13:08:15

Edit NM

michae229

15-01-2008 13:19:48

[quote69b3a2848b="bruman"][quote69b3a2848b="michae229"][quote69b3a2848b="bruman"]January 10th TrustedRewards..

I also had another $500 Amex RewardsParade confirmed on August 24th and that is saying shipped as well.

I am a little worried that I will only be getting one though, becuase they both shipped at the same time (1207).

It was the same layout/gift, but I was confirmed before they started enforcing that rule, so...[/quote69b3a2848b]

you will get both i did[/quote69b3a2848b]

Thanks ) That gives me hope. When did you receive both of yours? Were they also on the same month/shipped at the same time?[/quote69b3a2848b]

2 different ones thats weird i was confirmed after you so it must be alphabetical order.

stephpoet

17-01-2008 15:54:12

I had a Trusted Rewards AMEX and a YourTopBrands Visa confirmed to ship in September. Would I get these before March?

RolltheStampede

17-01-2008 17:31:32

maybe they are in the middle of august

viperklt21

18-01-2008 09:23:43

If I completed the sports authority site today do you think I will receive my gift faster then normal because I would be one of the only ones doing it right now or would it take longer?

puppeteer

18-01-2008 09:27:43

[quoted51598544d="viperklt21"]If I completed the sports authority site today do you think I will receive my gift faster then normal because I would be one of the only ones doing it right now or would it take longer?[/quoted51598544d]

sadly to say.. ive been waiting for 5months for my 1000 and 600 visa from brandrama -_- nothing is faster

viperklt21

18-01-2008 09:42:12

I have heard that gift cards to stores are sometimes faster.

RolltheStampede

18-01-2008 10:13:58

used to be

viperklt21

18-01-2008 10:47:59

but I should be the only one on their list now if I completed it. Shouldn't I?

freeipodplayer

18-01-2008 14:31:14

[quote14ed6ae129="viperklt21"]but I should be the only one on their list now if I completed it. Shouldn't I?[/quote14ed6ae129]

Yea, youll be on the list alright, behind a million other people.

viperklt21

18-01-2008 14:40:44

the list for sports authority???? I thought most everyone has received that gift.

beerman

18-01-2008 17:13:49

nope, we got three of us still waiting to buy some killer sports gear )

viperklt21

18-01-2008 18:21:32

I plan on buying a tv with mine. Maybe a snowboard too. 2/5 offers credited instantly and i guess the rest will credit next Fri. What month are they on?

orangejuice

18-01-2008 18:28:32

they are on august for the 1350 sports as far as i know. by the time we are due to get em they might be bankrupt, who knows

viperklt21

18-01-2008 18:36:05

awesome so I got 5-6 months assuming I can get approved by the end of the month which will be tough.

mwt123

18-01-2008 20:25:38

i just noticed that they added the gift status instructions

do they follow by this rule, because I saved up alot of sites

I remember reading this on TOS before, but was it always on the status page?

beerman

18-01-2008 21:23:53

[quote66a7dc1dee="orangejuice"]they are on august for the 1350 sports as far as i know. by the time we are due to get em they might be bankrupt, who knows[/quote66a7dc1dee]

That sounds about right. I was CTS on 9/6/07 and still waiting, hopefully next month....

jvine860

19-01-2008 03:55:15

Nice to see people getting confirmed to ship!~

orangejuice

19-01-2008 09:58:54

everyone gets confirmed to ship...nobody ever knows when they will ship

supersponger1979

21-01-2008 12:35:59

Got confirmed to ship for my $1350 Sports Authority card Jan 18th!

fbskiracer

22-01-2008 09:58:10

I was confirmed for the $1000 Visa 10/5, $1350 sports authority 11/5, $500 Amex 11/8, and $2500 check 12/11

None of which have been received obviously.

supersponger1979

22-01-2008 17:50:39

[quoteb5e6218bb5="fbskiracer"]I was confirmed for the $1000 Visa 10/5, $1350 sports authority 11/5, $500 Amex 11/8, and $2500 check 12/11

None of which have been received obviously.[/quoteb5e6218bb5]

Holy crap! Down payment on a house maybe?

orangejuice

22-01-2008 18:15:37

who puts money down on a house? i never will.

cubbieco

23-01-2008 09:13:59

[quote63edfbdca6="orangejuice"]who puts money down on a house? i never will.[/quote63edfbdca6]

Ummm anybody who wants a house... 3% down is almost a total minimum nowadays.

ILoveToys

23-01-2008 12:37:21

[quotebd7008c544="orangejuice"]who puts money down on a house? i never will.[/quotebd7008c544]

or anyone who knows anything about how compound interest works....

RolltheStampede

23-01-2008 13:10:53

[quote1c7cfb6223="cubbieco"][quote1c7cfb6223="orangejuice"]who puts money down on a house? i never will.[/quote1c7cfb6223]

Ummm anybody who wants a house... 3% down is almost a total minimum nowadays.[/quote1c7cfb6223]

But Carlton Sheets told me i could get one for no down payment

orangejuice

23-01-2008 13:26:28

I got one for no down payment, lmfao. i got the seller to pay the down payment )

supafreak00

23-01-2008 19:41:24

Yeah but you have to pay PMI then, don't you?

l0pher

23-01-2008 19:45:53

[quote17f27429ba="supafreak00"]Yeah but you have to pay PMI then, don't you?[/quote17f27429ba]

You could always get a 80/20 or 85/15 loan though with the credit crunch, better make sure you have very good credit

nick_e

24-01-2008 12:30:34

I got a 24 unit apartment building no money down it'
s called owner financing. switched to bank financing after I fixed the place up and rented more of it out

dubbin87

24-01-2008 14:47:15

Soooooo Brandarama, anyone got news on them to talk about?

wiebelhaus03

24-01-2008 14:48:03

people have been receiving their ipod touch from brandarama today who were confirmed in october (i was CTS in nov. so hopefully it'll be soon for me)

Zags1199

24-01-2008 15:55:49

On RewardsParade, I was confirmed to ship on August 27th. A month ago, they told me I should receive the card in two to four weeks. Then today, they told me that they only ordered half the cards, and that I'll still have to wait a while.

supersponger1979

25-01-2008 08:26:48

Anyone have any offers credit today? Is it usually early morning or middle of the day? Thanks

RolltheStampede

25-01-2008 08:54:43

hmmm didnt do any brandarama this week wait about 4 more hours

dubbin87

25-01-2008 09:09:36

nothing yet, but it's only noon for them.

viperklt21

25-01-2008 09:30:27

none of mine credited yet either. Probably going to be a couple more hours.

supersponger1979

25-01-2008 09:39:11

Thanks for the input guys...I know we are all anxious to get our gifts. I have almost $2500 worth of stuff in the works!

beerman

25-01-2008 09:51:33

I'm waiting on over $6,000 from them!

maverik

25-01-2008 10:29:36

[quoteee88e570e2="beerman1976"]I'm waiting on over $6,000 from them![/quoteee88e570e2]

Here, Here...

Daunted

25-01-2008 11:08:11

Anybody get credit today? I've been waiting on two offers to credit for a couple weeks and if they don't credit today I'm just going to do another offer.

viperklt21

25-01-2008 11:24:08

still nothing for me but I would give it until the end of the day today. I have had them credit in the evening before.

RolltheStampede

25-01-2008 11:33:43

patience

prizejunkie

25-01-2008 14:10:13

I had one out of 5 credit so far today ugh

viperklt21

25-01-2008 15:52:19

I had two more credit for me. Still waiting on emusic.

soccerbud

25-01-2008 15:58:28

[quote125a2d0962="prizejunkie"]I had one out of 5 credit so far today ugh[/quote125a2d0962]

3/8 (

wiebelhaus03

25-01-2008 16:46:38

1/1 here D finally did the last offer for the 3 offer $500 visa i've been putting off doing that last offer for about 2 months and finally did it last night

dubbin87

25-01-2008 16:50:55

3/3 I was waiting for. )

prizejunkie

25-01-2008 17:10:19

2 more came through just waiting on blockbuster hopefully soon!

supersponger1979

25-01-2008 19:25:50

3/3 for me qualified for the $825 Nordstrom card

floorsoup

26-01-2008 19:24:46

I am still working on the $1000 visa giftcard, 2 of my offers never credited, I want to do replacement offers but I am not sure how to tell what level I need to do them on. Is there an easy way to do this? In the part where it says what levels are completed it is blank but it shows 2 of the offers as being completed (I have been working on this for a few months I did all the offers the first day I signed up but was waiting to see if I could get them to credit before I did more offers).

zr2152

26-01-2008 19:28:47

[quote4545070726="floorsoup"]I am still working on the $1000 visa giftcard, 2 of my offers never credited, I want to do replacement offers but I am not sure how to tell what level I need to do them on. Is there an easy way to do this? In the part where it says what levels are completed it is blank but it shows 2 of the offers as being completed (I have been working on this for a few months I did all the offers the first day I signed up but was waiting to see if I could get them to credit before I did more offers).[/quote4545070726]

Email them, that is what I did for a couple offers. They will tell you what page the offers were on that you have completed.

supersponger1979

26-01-2008 19:57:03

Disney movie club credit for anyone? Or Living Christian? Thanks

heather77

28-01-2008 11:35:50

[quotea2fb2aa8ec="zr2152"][quotea2fb2aa8ec="floorsoup"]I am still working on the $1000 visa giftcard, 2 of my offers never credited, I want to do replacement offers but I am not sure how to tell what level I need to do them on. Is there an easy way to do this? In the part where it says what levels are completed it is blank but it shows 2 of the offers as being completed (I have been working on this for a few months I did all the offers the first day I signed up but was waiting to see if I could get them to credit before I did more offers).[/quotea2fb2aa8ec]

Email them, that is what I did for a couple offers. They will tell you what page the offers were on that you have completed.[/quotea2fb2aa8ec]

I just did that for the site I was working on, but they said I need a page 2 and a page 3 offer but I know for sure that I needed a page 4 offer and one other from page 2 or 3... should I just go by what they told me?

Swat1

29-01-2008 00:46:45

i wonder if they even remember they have a nordstroms site that they should start sending out GCs to.

favored

29-01-2008 11:15:17

[quote3c0659e4c4="supersponger1979"]Disney movie club credit for anyone? Or Living Christian? Thanks[/quote3c0659e4c4]

Disney Movie Club did. I didn't do Living Christian.

RyanG

29-01-2008 11:48:13

Living Christian credits, done it.

Gman14

30-01-2008 15:35:42

Anyone done GreatFun? still waiting for that one to credit. its been four days. All the other offers I've done have credited already, including one I did an hour ago! Should I do another offer?

slambam

30-01-2008 16:00:42

I'd wait til Friday at least. They all used to credit on Fridays, and now most seem to be going instantly, but maybe some are still Friday.

Daunted

30-01-2008 16:05:00

[quotedc7a4ccd2a="Gman14"]Anyone done GreatFun? still waiting for that one to credit. its been four days. All the other offers I've done have credited already, including one I did an hour ago! Should I do another offer?[/quotedc7a4ccd2a]

I did GreatFun on a Saturday and had to wait till the following Friday for it to credit. Great offer tho. Got my $20 in Gas Cards in the mail a couple days ago!

Gman14

30-01-2008 16:50:32

Alright thanks.

And its only for one $10 gas card now. Oh well, its still one of the only offers that offers you something extra along with a membership. D I couldn't pass that one down lol.

supersponger1979

30-01-2008 16:56:33

Offers credit on Fridays....Anyone know how long before we can do manual credit?

wiebelhaus03

30-01-2008 17:07:16

brandarama doesnt do manual credit. It's supposedly 30 days, but even if you submit proof you will never get credit....some people have waited as long as 9 months and still never received manual credit haha

freeipodplayer

30-01-2008 17:28:21

[quotedd21ef2aa7="wiebelhaus03"]brandarama doesnt do manual credit. It's supposedly 30 days, but even if you submit proof you will never get credit....some people have waited as long as 9 months and still never received manual credit haha[/quotedd21ef2aa7]

8 months here, but I ended up doing a replacement after 2 months.... but still, that credit hasnt come!

orangejuice

30-01-2008 17:50:51

why would you wait even 2 months. i never even bother. i just do another offer

freeipodplayer

30-01-2008 18:56:14

[quotefdac16f486="orangejuice"]why would you wait even 2 months. i never even bother. i just do another offer[/quotefdac16f486]

like i said... that was before everyone on here was even really doing Brandarama. and I just looked at my excel sheet. it was actually a year ago in a couple weeks!

Gman14

31-01-2008 12:13:13

Well, I got credit for all my offers. I just printed my redemption form and I'm gunna drop it off at the post office right now.

Just gotta play the waiting game now, lol. Only another 6 months or so until I get my $500 Gift Card lol. In the mean time I'll probably do another site. Anyone have any recommendations for a site thats not Brandarama? I kind of wanna try a different diy site since I've only ever done Brandarama ones.

supersponger1979

31-01-2008 16:59:26

Do you guys clear your cookies after each offer or wait for 1 to credit b4 clearing the cookies? I know to let the confirmation page load for a while but when is it safe to clear my cookies yet still ensuring the offer will credit? Thanks

bruman

31-01-2008 17:13:10

[quote2762d3c96d="supersponger1979"]Do you guys clear your cookies after each offer or wait for 1 to credit b4 clearing the cookies? I know to let the confirmation page load for a while but when is it safe to clear my cookies yet still ensuring the offer will credit? Thanks[/quote2762d3c96d]

I clear them after every offer. Fill out info, get to confirmation page, let that stay for about a minute or two, exit out, clear cookies, complete another one.

supersponger1979

31-01-2008 17:25:32

Thanks!

ILoveToys

31-01-2008 17:29:07

I only clear my cookies after I have finished all the offers I'm doing in 1 sitting, and I would say I have as high a success rate as anyone else, but I'm also still doing offers in IE 6 where as most people have moved to firefox...

supersponger1979

31-01-2008 17:34:48

Is Shop Dani a decent offer to complete? Does it credit? Thanks

freeipodplayer

31-01-2008 17:56:55

I also do all my cookies in one sitting. Never a problem here.

heather77

31-01-2008 20:31:27

[quote3fab7b023e="supersponger1979"]Is Shop Dani a decent offer to complete? Does it credit? Thanks[/quote3fab7b023e]
It credited for me, but as soon as you receive your $9 jewelry you are immediately charged $68 for the next month's, before you even see it. Just a hassle to send the jewelry back for a refund if you don't like it. I think it's OK jewelry for $9, but not $68. Also, nowhere in the terms does it tell you it's going to be that expensive. As a matter of fact, they have a very misleading ad saying that "ALL their jewelry is now just $9" and that there is free shipping. I think they're the same company as Poster Pass, Magazine Burst and Seattle Coffee, and they all have the same tactics. Shady company, in my opinion.

Daunted

31-01-2008 23:50:35

[quote914654058d="Gman14"]Alright thanks.

And its only for one $10 gas card now. Oh well, its still one of the only offers that offers you something extra along with a membership. D I couldn't pass that one down lol.[/quote914654058d]

Actually it said $10 gas card when I signed up also. I used someones link for the $20 gas card instead of using the $10 link they sent me. I figured it couldn't hurt to try it. It worked! Got two $10 cards. D If you haven't requested your gas card yet let me know & I'll give you the link.

wiebelhaus03

01-02-2008 05:33:20

could you PM me the link please?

tiffrnwhitney

01-02-2008 06:25:24

yea, can you pretty please send me the link too? wink

heather77

01-02-2008 08:15:17

me too? LOL, everyone needs it...

tiffrnwhitney

01-02-2008 10:37:39

Thanks! I will give it a try! +Karma for you 8)

yingyang

01-02-2008 13:37:39

Since I'm online, I'll PM you guys the link right now.

supersponger1979

01-02-2008 16:28:56

I didn't recieve credit for any offers today... (

Daunted

01-02-2008 16:54:01

[quote77090a612c="supersponger1979"]I didn't recieve credit for any offers today... ([/quote77090a612c]

Me either. ( I guess it makes me feel better that I'm not the only one. I was really hoping that the 3 offers I did would credit today because that is all I need to complete 3 gift cards ($1000 AMEX, $825 Nordstrom, $500 VISA). (

ILoveToys

01-02-2008 17:56:42

I got credit for 1 offer.

beerman

01-02-2008 20:14:22

I went 2 for 2, and I did the offers at 1145pm last night! Silkies and Gamefly....man I can't wait to try on my new nylons...)

prizejunkie

02-02-2008 11:17:51

anyone get credit for blockbuster on brandarama?

favored

04-02-2008 20:51:28

[quotecf35026f70="prizejunkie"]anyone get credit for blockbuster on brandarama?[/quotecf35026f70]

Yes, It was in December and I forget how long it took. About a week I think.

xedex08

04-02-2008 23:55:22

yingyang, could you please send me the link too? )

bgabb1

05-02-2008 07:49:16

yeah me too yingyang. i would appreciate it

jvine860

05-02-2008 08:07:22

[quote4b44c38488="wiebelhaus03"]brandarama doesnt do manual credit. It's supposedly 30 days, but even if you submit proof you will never get credit....some people have waited as long as 9 months and still never received manual credit haha[/quote4b44c38488]

Gee, that is funny, you only have 6 months to finish a site. How did they wait 9 months? I have heard of people getting manual credit! But it is rare.

yingyang

06-02-2008 10:26:29

PMs sent.

ashilef

06-02-2008 12:42:40

[quote8156827cda="ILoveToys"]I only clear my cookies after I have finished all the offers I'm doing in 1 sitting, and I would say I have as high a success rate as anyone else, but I'm also still doing offers in IE 6 where as most people have moved to firefox...[/quote8156827cda]

you're not alone, I'm using IE 7, crediting seems to be ok with me too,

Eta Has anyone sucessfully completed brandarama macbook pro gift? Was it the actual gift or a check? And how long did it take to receive once CTS?

cubbieco

08-02-2008 08:41:05

[quote556890112d="ashilef"]
Eta Has anyone sucessfully completed brandarama macbook pro gift? Was it the actual gift or a check? And how long did it take to receive once CTS?[/quote556890112d]

What brandarama macbook pro? Share the link please? I already searched the forum and couldn't find it.

ashilef

08-02-2008 09:40:27

[quote4999de7598="cubbieco"][quote4999de7598="ashilef"]
Eta Has anyone sucessfully completed brandarama macbook pro gift? Was it the actual gift or a check? And how long did it take to receive once CTS?[/quote4999de7598]

What brandarama macbook pro? Share the link please? I already searched the forum and couldn't find it.[/quote4999de7598]

My bad it's not for the pro but a macbook but here it is if you're still interested

http//www.brandarama.com/Mnu4561dd8650?sud=414&q1=[]http//www.brandarama.com/Mnu4561dd8650?sud=414&q1=
15 offers

freeipodplayer

08-02-2008 13:46:06

If you can wait 6+ months... then do it.

I know someone who has, but they only did it last week.

Ive done Macbooks from YFD and NT though.

ashilef

08-02-2008 14:12:51

[quote27e018cfdf="freeipodplayer"]If you can wait 6+ months... then do it.

I know someone who has, but they only did it last week.

Ive done Macbooks from YFD and NT though.[/quote27e018cfdf]

I don't know if it would be that long though. I read about some people receiving Itouches within 3 months. I wouldn't think there would be a back up considering the their gift card sites are more popular due to the low offer requirements. I'm not in a hurry anyway, I should be getting a laptop from NT hopefully by June.

DRay9911

10-02-2008 18:44:51

has anyone received a 1099 for any of the brandarama sites, specifically the $1,000 yourtopbrands site?

-dan

RolltheStampede

10-02-2008 18:58:49

i read that they were behind on them

freeipodplayer

10-02-2008 20:33:06

[quote32b66be2bd="ashilef"][quote32b66be2bd="freeipodplayer"]If you can wait 6+ months... then do it.

I know someone who has, but they only did it last week.

Ive done Macbooks from YFD and NT though.[/quote32b66be2bd]

I don't know if it would be that long though. I read about some people receiving Itouches within 3 months. I wouldn't think there would be a back up considering the their gift card sites are more popular due to the low offer requirements. I'm not in a hurry anyway, I should be getting a laptop from NT hopefully by June.[/quote32b66be2bd]

Believe me, they would, that site has been out forever.

DRay9911

11-02-2008 02:50:14

it's one thing to be behind on shipping gift cards and actual items. 1099s are something you can't be behind on.

-dan



[quotea232aa6f6e="RolltheStampede"]i read that they were behind on them[/quotea232aa6f6e]

RolltheStampede

11-02-2008 06:11:20

well if they are lazy with the government i guess we cant expect any better for ourselves.

[quote7f54d2da17]
[quote7f54d2da17]
[quote7f54d2da17]
I called Brandarama yesterday and they said that the documents will be sent in the next week or two. I wanted to complain about being sent late, but the csr sounded like I was the 1000th person to ask today, so I let it be.
[/quote7f54d2da17]

But if it's not post marked by the 31st then it doesn't matter right? You don't have to file it?
[/quote7f54d2da17]

Not true. The 31st is a "guideline" and it is VERY easy for them to explain to the IRS that they
had some problem (computer etc.) If you already filed your taxes you will have to file an amended
return.

the only thing that is a given is death and taxes. So pay your taxes.

M
[/quote7f54d2da17]

dubbin87

11-02-2008 09:28:20

I'm not even expecting a 1099 from them this year but that is total BS of them.

DRay9911

11-02-2008 10:16:23

i just got the two weeks response also.

not sure where that quoted text was from, but i didn't see it in this thread. i don't think failing to send 1099s to recipients on time can be easily explained to the IRS, it is anything but a "guideline".

scroll down to 1099-misc

http//www.irs.gov/efile/article/0,,id=98114,00.html

i spoke with a friend on friday about the stimulus package and he mentioned the checks that are going to start going out in may are going to be based on when you file your 2007 return....so the sooner you get them in, the more towards the top of the list you go. so you can understand why i'm not happy with brandarama's response.

-dan

ILoveToys

11-02-2008 10:46:56

yeah....that's all my taxes are waiting for...

swtldy316

11-02-2008 15:02:42

I got the tax form from brandarama for $1000 even though I haven't received my $1000 visa from them yet. I got it sometime last week.

Hopefully you guys get yours soon.

freeipodplayer

11-02-2008 15:09:45

[quotece33bcd676="swtldy316"]I got the tax form from brandarama for $1000 even though I haven't received my $1000 visa from them yet. I got it sometime last week.

Hopefully you guys get yours soon.[/quotece33bcd676]

wtf really?

orangejuice

11-02-2008 18:30:31

$350 verizon gift card shipped today. Confirmed August 9th. !!!

swtldy316

11-02-2008 22:56:24

[quotec3fee34738="freeipodplayer"][quotec3fee34738="swtldy316"]I got the tax form from brandarama for $1000 even though I haven't received my $1000 visa from them yet. I got it sometime last week.

Hopefully you guys get yours soon.[/quotec3fee34738]

wtf really?[/quotec3fee34738]

yeah I was pretty confused when I got it.

Other than the $1000 I have pending, I had only gotten a $600 apple gift card so I figure it has to be for the $1000 visa I'm confirmed to ship on.

ashilef

12-02-2008 14:56:49

I'm so excited, I qualified for my first gift!!!

Just one question, do I have to get the claim form notarized?

slambam

12-02-2008 16:01:50

[quote7e0a8f1dca="ashilef"]I'm so excited, I qualified for my first gift!!!

Just one question, do I have to get the claim form notarized?[/quote7e0a8f1dca]

Nope, Nuitech is the only site that requires that.

ashilef

12-02-2008 16:33:19

[quotee4b6cd506a="slambam"][quotee4b6cd506a="ashilef"]I'm so excited, I qualified for my first gift!!!

Just one question, do I have to get the claim form notarized?[/quotee4b6cd506a]

Nope, Nuitech is the only site that requires that.[/quotee4b6cd506a]

Thank you!

beerman

13-02-2008 19:58:08

Talked to Brandarama today. Told me they are still working on July's Yourtopbrands $1000 visa list and August's Sports Authority cards....just thought some would like an update....
looks like I have 1 more month to wait, hopefully they both come in at the same or close to the same time....

Gman14

14-02-2008 14:29:12

I'm confirmed to be shipped for my $500 TicketMaster Gift Card!

Now i gotta wait til September! hahaha.

It'll be a nice surprise. )

slambam

14-02-2008 21:15:22

Might as well just say your pregnant on a Brandarama site, 9 months or so sounds about right lately.

orangejuice

15-02-2008 07:41:56

Its 9 months now? That aint good.

ashilef

15-02-2008 08:31:19

[quotedebe2c9133="orangejuice"]Its 9 months now? That aint good.[/quotedebe2c9133]
No...actually that kinda sucks

bruman

15-02-2008 08:37:52

No one has had to wait 9 months for a gift

dubbin87

15-02-2008 09:24:14

[quote38861c5956="bruman"]No one has had to wait 9 months for a gift[/quote38861c5956]
yet





lol

michae229

15-02-2008 09:26:23

[quote4584f37c38="dubbin87"][quote4584f37c38="bruman"]No one has had to wait 9 months for a gift[/quote4584f37c38]
yet





lol[/quote4584f37c38]

if I wait after march for my gift this will be the longest ive ever waited i had a 1k gift card around the same time CTS in july and got my card in march.

ashilef

15-02-2008 10:36:10

[quote1ceaaa357b="michae229"][quote1ceaaa357b="dubbin87"][quote1ceaaa357b="bruman"]No one has had to wait 9 months for a gift[/quote1ceaaa357b]
yet





lol[/quote1ceaaa357b]

if I wait after march for my gift this will be the longest ive ever waited i had a 1k gift card around the same time CTS in july and got my card in march.[/quote1ceaaa357b][/color1ceaaa357b]

God, I hope that aint the case with regular gifts...

LucaBella

15-02-2008 14:06:46

Did anyone else get a tax form from these people? I didn't...

slambam

15-02-2008 22:40:51

I'm CTS in October for a few GC's. I don't expect it to take that long, but I won't be surprised if I don't get them til July.

supersponger1979

16-02-2008 11:14:49

I had 0 offers credit yesterday Gamefly, First Club Save, and Autovantage...

debo012004

16-02-2008 11:37:16

[quoted245ab1fc8="supersponger1979"]I had 0 offers credit yesterday Gamefly, First Club Save, and Autovantage...[/quoted245ab1fc8]
autovantage credited on thursday for me.

ashilef

16-02-2008 15:02:07

[quotec9e713fac9="supersponger1979"]I had 0 offers credit yesterday Gamefly, First Club Save, and Autovantage...[/quotec9e713fac9]

Maybe you should do the cheryl tiegs offer and get credit for gamefly that way. I did that offer and got credit for gamefly instead...

targetman39

17-02-2008 12:54:08

any good brandarama sites right now?
quick offers like 4-6 offers

ILoveToys

17-02-2008 13:18:37

bestrewardsaround was ideal....

RolltheStampede

18-02-2008 06:38:03

the hotel one should still be around. check the brandarama links on AT4F
or FYB.

slambam

18-02-2008 09:02:11

[quotef30a72f77b="RolltheStampede"]the hotel one should still be around. check the brandarama links on AT4F
or FYB.[/quotef30a72f77b]

I think they took it down.

viperklt21

18-02-2008 09:06:07

They are a sticky at AT4F

slambam

18-02-2008 09:30:56

There is a stickey with the sites, but the hotel one was taken down by Brandarama.

Cromwell44

18-02-2008 11:03:52

There are a couple $500 for 4 offers ones up, but the 3 offer ones are down.

jmommy79@yahoo.com

19-02-2008 08:53:06

Hey Fbskiracer, I noticed that you posted you were confirmed to ship on the $1350 Sports Authority gift card, 11/5...I was wondering if you received it yet? I know that Tylerc mentioned back in November that he received his within 3 months almost exactly!

beerman

19-02-2008 09:16:58

Hey jmommy....I'm confirmed to ship on 9/6 and still have not got my Sports Authority gift cards, I was told it will probably ship next month....

jmommy79@yahoo.com

19-02-2008 09:31:20

Thanks beerman! I'm getting kind of worried about this slow shipping! I'm kind of confused by the shipping times and what is priority. I have a grill I'm still waiting on from brandarama (told me they are working on Aug. still), but the Sports Authority gift cards are coming out a lot quicker. Anyways, I shouldn't complain at least I will get all of these gifts someday! I guess I've always liked surprises!! lol I hope you get your gift card soon!

mwt123

20-02-2008 17:25:33

i just logged my account on someones elses house who also has an account there on accident. do they care ?

ashilef

20-02-2008 18:05:02

[quote767a5b64dc="mwt123"]i just logged my account on someones elses house who also has an account there on accident. do they care ?[/quote767a5b64dc]

I don't see it as a problem if you were just checking your status. I thought it was bad to do offers from a different computer than the one you signed up with but of course I just read that some where so I don't know for sure.

fbskiracer

21-02-2008 08:40:48

Nope I'm still waiting on all my stuff from Brandarama, its close to 5K in total with completion dates from October 5-November 17 i think.

heather77

21-02-2008 10:23:21

$500 Best Buy Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Dec-14-07 304 PM]

$500 Sears Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Feb-20-08 1018 AM]

$1000 Visa Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Feb-21-08 1257 PM]

$500 Southwest Airlines Gift Card
Qualified, need Confirmation
[Oct-24-07 343 AM]

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Qualified, need Confirmation
[Feb-20-08 155 PM]


lisighli I hope I get this stuff by Christmas!!
I'm waiting on 1 more offer each for the $825 Nordstrom's, the $500 Macy's, and the $500 Ticketmaster. I'm glad they got some new offers, but there's still nothing new on page 2 so I'm stuck 'till there is...

MattMcQ

21-02-2008 12:21:40

Is the $500 ticketmaster an actual Ticketmaster GC or just a $500 check/amex?

freeipodplayer

21-02-2008 13:11:07

[quote84cba92895="MattMcQ"]Is the $500 ticketmaster an actual Ticketmaster GC or just a $500 check/amex?[/quote84cba92895]

GC.

MattMcQ

21-02-2008 13:41:48

thanks...that'll keep me from doing it

DRay9911

22-02-2008 08:56:37

i will be mailing off my paperwork for a $600 AMEX card (for an iphone) today.

after they pay off skiracer and heather, i doubt they will have any funds left for me.

bummer

-dan

RolltheStampede

22-02-2008 09:03:06

they better they have otherpeople pending more than that

dubbin87

22-02-2008 11:03:33

[quote26ea491f54="RolltheStampede"]they better they have otherpeople pending more than that[/quote26ea491f54]

lol, i was gonna say. lol

yingyang

24-02-2008 18:02:29

You know how companies like brandarama stay in business?

This is how.
http//www.spamsuite.com/comment/reply/303/629

[quote744be7b9b7]These people (Active Response Group)cheated me out of $40.00 with a promise of a $100.00 gift card that I have never received. All I had to do was try four different offers and they would send me this gift card. Stupid me! I have never received it-going on 12 weeks.[/quote744be7b9b7]

She did a 4-offer, $100 gift. LOL

zr2152

24-02-2008 18:16:35

[quote10ecb11ce9="yingyang"]You know how companies like brandarama stay in business?

This is how.
http//www.spamsuite.com/comment/reply/303/629

[quote10ecb11ce9]These people (Active Response Group)cheated me out of $40.00 with a promise of a $100.00 gift card that I have never received. All I had to do was try four different offers and they would send me this gift card. Stupid me! I have never received it-going on 12 weeks.[/quote10ecb11ce9]

She did a 4-offer, $100 gift. LOL[/quote10ecb11ce9]

Cause people give up. They are not cheating them out of a gift, just a long wait time, like all of our gifts.

ashilef

24-02-2008 19:03:06

[quotec6b15ae4b7="yingyang"]You know how companies like brandarama stay in business?

This is how.
http//www.spamsuite.com/comment/reply/303/629

[quotec6b15ae4b7]These people (Active Response Group)cheated me out of $40.00 with a promise of a $100.00 gift card that I have never received. All I had to do was try four different offers and they would send me this gift card. Stupid me! I have never received it-going on 12 weeks.[/quotec6b15ae4b7]

She did a 4-offer, $100 gift. LOL[/quotec6b15ae4b7]

WOW shock She doesn't even realize that she spent more then what the offers are worth...damn I'm SO glad I researched and found all the forums I found before jumping into this industry lisighli

oleus

27-02-2008 09:53:22

FYI, they are still "quite a while away" from getting to any Visa GC from July that wasn't $1000. So the 9+ months wait seems like a reality and could go higher than that if some of us don't start seeing our Visas from July sent out soon!

ashilef

27-02-2008 11:03:11

[quote7cff3614e4="oleus"]FYI, they are still "quite a while away" from getting to any Visa GC from July that wasn't $1000. So the 9+ months wait seems like a reality and could go higher than that if some of us don't start seeing our Visas from July sent out soon![/quote7cff3614e4]

Couldn't possibly be a year wait would it? ?

ffactoryxx

27-02-2008 18:12:53

Yes it can )

Enjoy

orangejuice

27-02-2008 18:34:19

thats really bad...wow.

bruman

27-02-2008 18:48:56

[quote709019b234="ashilef"][quote709019b234="oleus"]FYI, they are still "quite a while away" from getting to any Visa GC from July that wasn't $1000. So the 9+ months wait seems like a reality and could go higher than that if some of us don't start seeing our Visas from July sent out soon![/quote709019b234]

Couldn't possibly be a year wait would it? ?[/quote709019b234]

C "Hello, I was confirmed in January for my visa..."

CS "Call back in 12 months"

michae229

27-02-2008 18:57:11

[quote05a090edf3="bruman"][quote05a090edf3="ashilef"][quote05a090edf3="oleus"]FYI, they are still "quite a while away" from getting to any Visa GC from July that wasn't $1000. So the 9+ months wait seems like a reality and could go higher than that if some of us don't start seeing our Visas from July sent out soon![/quote05a090edf3]

Couldn't possibly be a year wait would it? ?[/quote05a090edf3]

C "Hello, I was confirmed in January for my visa..."

CS "Call back in 12 months"[/quote05a090edf3]

lol

RyanG

27-02-2008 19:07:11

Can't log into any site /

zr2152

27-02-2008 19:07:51

I'm telling you, it's cause they SIT on that interest. That is how they can pay all of us. The more completions, the more they have to sit.

Ergo, it went from a 4 month wait, to possibly a 12.

ashilef

27-02-2008 19:16:37

While we love the fact that offers credit fast and you can complete a site in less than a week, the evil trade off is that you have to way nearly half a year to a year to get your gifts.

So it's either do some offers and have to hold them for 60 days, but know you will get your gift sometime this year

OR

Do a site where you need to finish everything from offer completions to being processed within 60 days, and risk being Dq'ed for a dumb reason or have your gift expire. But know that if everything checks out you will have your gift in some case 10 days after being processed.

Take your pick...

oleus

27-02-2008 20:52:15

[quote58852579cb="RyanG"]Can't log into any site /[/quote58852579cb]

yeah i can't log in anywhere either.

kidd2108

27-02-2008 21:16:00

[quote24852b8da9="oleus"][quote24852b8da9="RyanG"]Can't log into any site /[/quote24852b8da9]

yeah i can't log in anywhere either.[/quote24852b8da9]

No problem logging in anywhere, except brandarama. Havent been able to log in since yesterday. ?

beerman

28-02-2008 05:37:49

its fixed now

mistertomlinson

28-02-2008 16:39:54

But now there's something wrong with the offers. Only a few on each page display an image and the offers that don't, have the word "null" beside the description. What gives?

oleus

29-02-2008 16:18:25

anyone else sign up for First Club Save ?? they charged me but i never received any emails, and now can't find a link to them anywhere to figure out what is going on.

jmommy79@yahoo.com

29-02-2008 19:22:07

My mom didn't receive one of the emails from them (can't remember the name...not LD save but the other), the one that comes with the gas vouchers. She was never charged for it either, but she was charged for LD Save. I was actually charged for both and received both emails a few weeks ago.

Here's the number for LD save 1.800.922.3516

This website works for me http//firstclubsave.com/

beammeup4

01-03-2008 18:39:49

I've got 8 offers left that I can complete on Brandarama.

Right now, I've been CTS on the 4-offer 1K Visa card since September, and a TomTom GPS since December.

There have been some reports of iPod touches being shipped quickly, but are there any other Brandarama gifts that have been shipping as of late? What's everyone's advice on how I should "spend" these last 8 offers?

PS i'm aware of the rules...not asking for specific sites, more just finding out if ALL active response sites are slow, or if it's just the gift cards, or something...

RolltheStampede

01-03-2008 19:31:35

pick something obscure that might not have a long list.

the touches did not have a long list. try something like an actual gift that not maany people might do. like a grill or something

ashilef

01-03-2008 19:49:28

[quotecae616e718="RolltheStampede"]pick something obscure that might not have a long list.

the touches did not have a long list. try something like an actual gift that not maany people might do. like a grill or something[/quotecae616e718]

Would you consider the macbook site that I did with them "obscure"? Because I would figure with NT and other sites giving away the Pro, people would look over doing 15 offers for just a "regular" macbook. Well if not a lot of people did that site then it would definitely work in my favor. D

bruman

01-03-2008 20:39:39

[quote02a5c24ca5="RolltheStampede"]pick something obscure that might not have a long list.

the touches did not have a long list. try something like an actual gift that not maany people might do. like a grill or something[/quote02a5c24ca5]

Wasn't that $825 Nordstrom Gift Card new when we all got in on it? I don't think they have shipped ANY of those out yet. I was confirmed in October. I e-mailed them about it and they said they are in August.. but to my knowledge this site didn't even exist in August. Maybe August is just another word for two more months.

RolltheStampede

01-03-2008 21:05:53

im sure someone knew about it. i would theink the macbook would be obscure, though that link is really old

edoc80

01-03-2008 21:12:35

I did a grill on brandarama way back in Oct. and they told me that they were still working on Aug. I don't think the grill is shipping any quicker than the other gifts it sounds like. I'm kind of surprised that the ipods went out so quickly since all of us have been waiting on gifts for so long...just doesn't make since to me.

beammeup4

01-03-2008 21:14:01

[quote9f6cd7353f="RolltheStampede"]pick something obscure that might not have a long list.

the touches did not have a long list. try something like an actual gift that not maany people might do. like a grill or something[/quote9f6cd7353f]

haha, i thought the TomTom GPS would have been obscure enough...it's an old modeal...been CTS for over 3 1/2 months now!

wiebelhaus03

01-03-2008 22:27:49

They say they are on august even if they truly aren't.....I called a couple days ago checking up on my ipod touch and they said they were working on the august list, then today my ipod showed up at my door even though i was CTS is Nov. So i don't think CS knows what they're talking about in relation to when gifts are shipped out......

zr2152

01-03-2008 23:38:06

yeah but some of the giftcards ARE on august though.

edoc80

02-03-2008 12:57:34

[quoteeb8e7bb350="wiebelhaus03"]They say they are on august even if they truly aren't.....I called a couple days ago checking up on my iPod touch and they said they were working on the august list, then today my iPod showed up at my door even though i was CTS is Nov. So i don't think CS knows what they're talking about in relation to when gifts are shipped out......[/quoteeb8e7bb350]

Wow, that is nice to know...now I have some hope!

DRay9911

02-03-2008 14:22:14

last summer, my sister signed up to a brandarama site for two cases of baby formula (about as obscure as you can get). her account was approved in mid-september and she hasn't received anything yet.

my nephew will be a year on 04/25 and won't even need the formula much longer.

-dan

ashilef

02-03-2008 18:24:20

[quotebedc93533b="DRay9911"]last summer, my sister signed up to a brandarama site for two cases of baby formula (about as obscure as you can get). her account was approved in mid-september and she hasn't received anything yet.

my nephew will be a year on 04/25 and won't even need the formula much longer.

-dan[/quotebedc93533b]

ok, that's ridiculous!!! All together it may have cost them about 200 bucks, maybe less, because I used to buy like 9 cans it was like under 200! Now I'm convinced they are just slow with EVERYTHING!!!!

RolltheStampede

02-03-2008 19:33:25

hah you should have done the college scholarship for the kid. they might be in college by the time they get the scholarship

kalinkster

02-03-2008 20:51:28

[quote51c9b0a224="RolltheStampede"]hah you should have done the college scholarship for the kid. they might be in college by the time they get the scholarship[/quote51c9b0a224]

You crack me up! lol And I was going to say or post what you just wrote in here. lol Mine will probably show up Jan 2009 or right before Christmas. But then again, I'm waiting patiently. )

Cromwell44

03-03-2008 00:16:38

[quote84bc41f745="RolltheStampede"]hah you should have done the college scholarship for the kid. they might be in college by the time they get the scholarship[/quote84bc41f745]

shock D lol

mistertomlinson

03-03-2008 06:50:14

Could a few of you guys do me a favor? Could you log into any account you can still complete offers on and tell me if the offers are displaying correctly? I have sent emails to Brandarama and they told me they didn't see anything wrong with the site. I signed up for the $1,000 gift check to be spent at Orbitz.com and when viewing the offers, only a few of the offers are displayed with their images beside them. The others say "null" beside them and have no pictures. Is anyone else having this problem? Maybe it's a problem specifically with that Orbitz site. Thanks for any help.

bruman

03-03-2008 07:08:39

[quote5ecf7a9172="mistertomlinson"]Could a few of you guys do me a favor? Could you log into any account you can still complete offers on and tell me if the offers are displaying correctly? I have sent emails to Brandarama and they told me they didn't see anything wrong with the site. I signed up for the $1,000 gift check to be spent at Orbitz.com and when viewing the offers, only a few of the offers are displayed with their images beside them. The others say "null" beside them and have no pictures. Is anyone else having this problem? Maybe it's a problem specifically with that Orbitz site. Thanks for any help.[/quote5ecf7a9172]

I noticed that yesterday. I just tried again and everything looks fine now though.

MattMcQ

03-03-2008 09:09:17

anybody had any issues w/ getting CTS? I mailed in my confirmation forms before Valentine's Day and still says "need confirmation" I just mailed again last Thursday. Can I call or fax?

RyanG

03-03-2008 09:30:02

[quotecdac3211e5="MattMcQ"]anybody had any issues w/ getting CTS? I mailed in my confirmation forms before Valentine's Day and still says "need confirmation" I just mailed again last Thursday. Can I call or fax?[/quotecdac3211e5]

Usually takes 2-4 weeks for certs to be processed.

MattMcQ

03-03-2008 12:10:57

I was just curious if there were any other sites like Brandarama but where you can get the gift a lot sooner? I did NT, but won't anymore that they have changed their terms back to 60 days. Thanks!

mistertomlinson

03-03-2008 16:01:54

I just found this in my inbox and wasn't sure if it's been posted. It's a 7 offer Nintendo Wii with Super Mario Galaxy, Tiger Woods '08, Zelda and Guitar Hero 3 with wireless guitar.

http//www.brandnamerewards.com/?PromoID=15871&SID=CD13820&em=

wiebelhaus03

03-03-2008 16:09:01

[quote2df1a2cbab="mistertomlinson"]I just found this in my inbox and wasn't sure if it's been posted. It's a 7 offer Nintendo Wii with Super Mario Galaxy, Tiger Woods '08, Zelda and Guitar Hero 3 with wireless guitar.

http//www.brandnamerewards.com/?PromoID=15871&SID=CD13820&em=[/quote2df1a2cbab]

Thats not brandarama, its another company with a similar layout as brandarama. Know one has tried them yet so we don't know if they are legit, but there's no way to check your status and ood's on the last page.

mistertomlinson

03-03-2008 16:17:46

oops

oleus

05-03-2008 11:34:28

i called them yesterday and could not get a clear answer on when the new 1099's would actually be mailed....with only a month left to file taxes this is becoming worrisome.

also, has anyone actually received a July giftcard yet? with the ongoing delays going back to t he July problems, and recent offers refusing to credit i'm starting to really get annoyed with them...

ryndne

06-03-2008 08:25:05

[quotecdfdff7cbf="oleus"]i called them yesterday and could not get a clear answer on when the new 1099's would actually be mailed....with only a month left to file taxes this is becoming worrisome.

also, has anyone actually received a July giftcard yet? with the ongoing delays going back to t he July problems, and recent offers refusing to credit i'm starting to really get annoyed with them...[/quotecdfdff7cbf]

i'm not sure why everyone is so worried about the 1099 issue. You're going to pay tax on money you received (as per the rule that you can only be taxed on money you have or was made available to you before jan 1). You should know exactly how much Brandarama paid out to you and claim it as income via 1099-misc -- the address/info on the original 1099 isn't going to change. you can always file an amended report if you have to.

bottom line is -- you legally need to pay the taxes; unless you're hoping that they missed something or you're going to get away tax-free, its not worth waiting around imho

as for gc's -- i got my amex gc from august cts in late december

Daunted

06-03-2008 19:32:41

I signed into YourTopBrands to check my status today and all my sites were gone! Anyone ever experience this problem? I was qualified for a $500 Visa and was working on a $1000 Visa and had a bunch of sites parked. Now they are all gone. Help would be appreciated. I emailed them but would like to see if this has happened to anyone else.

beerman

06-03-2008 19:47:46

you sure you entered the right email address? I did that once, nearly flipped, but then I realized I used the wrong email....I have 8 email accounts, getting hard to keep them all straight.....

oh and learned a trick, if you save the link as http//www.brandarama.com/status/?prepop=YOUR@EMAIL.ADDRESS it will pre-fill your email address....can't figure out the prefill for zipcode though.....

Daunted

06-03-2008 19:52:55

[quote12493f2816="beerman1976"]you sure you entered the right email address? I did that once, nearly flipped, but then I realized I used the wrong email....I have 8 email accounts, getting hard to keep them all straight.....

oh and learned a trick, if you save the link as http//www.brandarama.com/status/?prepop=YOUR@EMAIL.ADDRESS it will pre-fill your email address....can't figure out the prefill for zipcode though.....[/quote12493f2816]

D Oh my you are the best! haha I was freaking out. I guess I entered the wrong email or something. I hit the log out button and went back in and everything was there. Thanks a ton. Thanks for the tip too. Major karma to you.

madmanx33

11-03-2008 16:12:21

is brandrama sites working for you guys i cant login

bruman

11-03-2008 16:42:57

[quote1a569189bb="madmanx33"]is brandrama sites working for you guys i cant login[/quote1a569189bb]

It's done for everyone right now. It'll be back up within a day.

madmanx33

11-03-2008 17:37:17

thanks bruman it scares me when there site stop working

RolltheStampede

12-03-2008 08:27:19

wait till friday to start panicking

oleus

12-03-2008 08:32:45

[quote4ea7b54090="RolltheStampede"]wait till friday to start panicking[/quote4ea7b54090]

why friday?

quite frankly i've been worried about them for a while. this backup of July gc's is odd even given their track record of delays.

beerman

12-03-2008 10:39:00

I can now login but my gifts are not showing up...

kalinkster

12-03-2008 11:46:14

I can't login since yesterday. ? Oh well, I might as well wait for another day. wink

oleus

12-03-2008 12:06:21

anyone know what's going on?

MattMcQ

12-03-2008 12:11:11

i can log in on householdsavings but my offers don't show up. can't even log in on yourtopbrands

steveyankee

12-03-2008 12:48:21

Well, they have been taking 6+ months to ship out gifts. I wouldn't be surprised if they shut down. lol

I mean, this has happened before, but I don't remember it happening as to where people's status has vanished.

neverendingmoolah

12-03-2008 13:21:41

Brandarama, RewardsParade, YTB seem to go down periodically, but each time they have restored the user accounts. They are proably updating the system or something to that effect.

sweeedfish

12-03-2008 15:50:56

My accounts on YTB and Brandarama are both back up. You guys get so paranoid when things are down. OH NOES THE EARTH IS COMING TO AN END>.< Everything will be fine, you'll get your damn gifts.

ashilef

12-03-2008 15:58:48

[quoted87b88f339="sweeedfish"]My accounts on YTB and Brandarama are both back up. You guys get so paranoid when things are down. OH NOES THE EARTH IS COMING TO AN END>.< Everything will be fine, you'll get your damn gifts.[/quoted87b88f339]

was that REALLY necessary? roll

oleus

12-03-2008 16:36:09

[quotef81fc5a166="sweeedfish"]My accounts on YTB and Brandarama are both back up. You guys get so paranoid when things are down. OH NOES THE EARTH IS COMING TO AN END>.< Everything will be fine, you'll get your damn gifts.[/quotef81fc5a166]

seeing as that they are up to 9 months+ in getting me my july giftcards, and that they screwed up everyone's 1099's by thousands of dollars, i'd say some of us have perfectly good reason to worry when something like this happens.

RolltheStampede

13-03-2008 08:19:13

[quote8f3a2acb6a="oleus"][quote8f3a2acb6a="RolltheStampede"]wait till friday to start panicking[/quote8f3a2acb6a]

why friday?

quite frankly i've been worried about them for a while. this backup of July gc's is odd even given their track record of delays.[/quote8f3a2acb6a]

because they usually fix the problem in a few days.

dubbin87

13-03-2008 09:06:14

[quote45544c9ce5="RolltheStampede"]
because they usually fix the problem in a few days.[/quote45544c9ce5]

ding ding ding!

it's been happening about once a month people, and it gets fixed in a day or two.

oleus

13-03-2008 12:14:29

i'll stop worrying when they start sending me my giftcards from 9 months ago.

DRay9911

13-03-2008 15:07:18

i spoke with my sister today, she received a check for $210 for a site she worked on for 2 cases of baby formula.

she was approved in mid-september.

and now that YTB is back up, i'm confirmed for a $600 amex card...hoping to get it sometime in 2009.

-dan

illnovah

15-03-2008 13:31:06

UPDATED March 15th 2008

Customer service says their working on the JULY (2007) list for VISA and SEPTEMBER (2007) for all other gifts.

zr2152

15-03-2008 14:50:26

[quote88fd61988e="illnovah"]UPDATED March 15th 2008

Customer service says their working on the JULY (2007) list for VISA and SEPTEMBER (2007) for all other gifts.[/quote88fd61988e]

So they are on september for everything but visas, even amex's and bestbuy?

IF so that would be great. Thanks for the update. 2 weeks ago I spoke to someone and they said they were finishing up August's bestbuys.

Swat1

29-03-2008 17:00:37

I am CTS OCT 30th for the tiffany's 500 dollar gc. Im hoping to get it next month...

kdt511

02-04-2008 15:03:15

^ Don't be too excited, shoot for 2-3 months.

manOFice

02-04-2008 17:41:13

[quote78116746be="kdt511"]^ Don't be too excited, shoot for 2-3 months.[/quote78116746be]

It won't be that long for Oct non visa gifts probably

steveyankee

02-04-2008 20:30:08

[quoteb44a2bdf11="manOFice"][quoteb44a2bdf11="kdt511"]^ Don't be too excited, shoot for 2-3 months.[/quoteb44a2bdf11]

It won't be that long for Oct non visa gifts probably[/quoteb44a2bdf11]


Well, April will be working on Sept lists, so 2-3 months seems right.

zr2152

02-04-2008 22:20:50

yeah but it seems like they are getting a month done every month.

So if that were the case, october non visas should be coming sometime late april or early may.

steveyankee

03-04-2008 05:32:24

[quotebf4bda6065="zr2152"]yeah but it seems like they are getting a month done every month.

So if that were the case, october non visas should be coming sometime late april or early may.[/quotebf4bda6065]

Really?

I'd have to disagree.

I thought people said they are working on the Sept list for non-visas since Feb? I have 3 CTS in Sept still (

zr2152

03-04-2008 07:47:28

i don't believe it has been since Jan.

oleus

03-04-2008 08:03:18

anyone received their July-confirmed VISAs yet? i'm still waiting on 5 of them....

zr2152

03-04-2008 10:05:40

[quotec5b280cf08="oleus"]anyone received their July-confirmed VISAs yet? i'm still waiting on 5 of them....[/quotec5b280cf08]

Yes people have gone shipped on them already.

oleus

03-04-2008 11:35:34

[quotec05eb43d3d="zr2152"][quotec05eb43d3d="oleus"]anyone received their July-confirmed VISAs yet? i'm still waiting on 5 of them....[/quotec05eb43d3d]

Yes people have gone shipped on them already.[/quotec05eb43d3d]

that's good news - were those marked as shipped $1K's or less? mine are all less, hence the added delays.

zr2152

03-04-2008 13:51:33

some were 1k

oandm6599

03-04-2008 20:35:58

[quoteac3d7a155b="oleus"][quoteac3d7a155b="zr2152"][quoteac3d7a155b="oleus"]anyone received their July-confirmed VISAs yet? i'm still waiting on 5 of them....[/quoteac3d7a155b]

Yes people have gone shipped on them already.[/quoteac3d7a155b]

that's good news - were those marked as shipped $1K's or less? mine are all less, hence the added delays.[/quoteac3d7a155b]

Mine is a $600 Visa too. August is a whole other story with $1K Visa and then one in September too. Ugh, I really hope they come through soon. Thanks brandarama. D

beerman

04-04-2008 09:18:04

Sweet, another one down....

$500 Best Buy Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Apr-4-08 1107 AM

orangejuice

04-04-2008 09:20:04

your looking at xmas at best on that one, thats not sweet at all

beerman

04-04-2008 09:25:36

I don't mind, I have just about 1 gift coming from this month until the end of the year...slow and steady is my philisophy....

chewy

04-04-2008 16:29:13

anyone have any trouble lately logging into topshelfbrands or yourtopbrands? i havent been able to log in lately, they said they are looking into it

mistertomlinson

04-04-2008 17:01:19

No trouble here. I've been logging into my account all day just to stare at my progress seeing as how I was given credit for all 10 of my offers for the $1,000 check. I'm so psyched.

wiebelhaus03

04-04-2008 22:33:06

[quoteed48218e71="mistertomlinson"]No trouble here. I've been logging into my account all day just to stare at my progress seeing as how I was given credit for all 10 of my offers for the $1,000 check. I'm so psyched.[/quoteed48218e71]

You're lucky....I'm still waiting for credit from phentrazine, efax, scholastic my first steps to learning, and cosmetique

beerman

07-04-2008 19:20:38

come-on shipping department! looks like typically they send around the 10th-15th, so hopefully my SA card come this week or next!

fbskiracer

08-04-2008 07:06:56

According to the customer service they are on July's visa's and September for Amex, SA, and checks.

The delay is now WELL over 6 months what happens when it hits 1 year for people doing sites now?

beerman

08-04-2008 07:16:39

what happens is we wait a year...no biggie for me...

orangejuice

08-04-2008 09:19:55

are you serious? they probably wont be around by then thats why

bruman

08-04-2008 09:22:20

[quote4324b82be5="orangejuice"]are you serious? they probably wont be around by then thats why[/quote4324b82be5]

Brandarama will be around for a long time, they are a multi-million dollar company.

oleus

08-04-2008 09:27:54

still waiting on 5 July visas - so even though they are "on July" they couldn't have made much of a dent in the list....

bruman

08-04-2008 09:31:51

[quote7d53d5d142="oleus"]still waiting on 5 July visas - so even though they are "on July" they couldn't have made much of a dent in the list....[/quote7d53d5d142]

I'm pretty sure they shipped out all $1,000 July VISAs

dubbin87

08-04-2008 11:17:10

[quoteac9f0f6ce0="bruman"][quoteac9f0f6ce0="orangejuice"]are you serious? they probably wont be around by then thats why[/quoteac9f0f6ce0]

Brandarama will be around for a long time, they are a multi-million dollar company.[/quoteac9f0f6ce0]

yeah casue multi million dollar compaines never go out of business. ?

zr2152

08-04-2008 11:27:40

[quotee3c08ea656="dubbin87"][quotee3c08ea656="bruman"][quotee3c08ea656="orangejuice"]are you serious? they probably wont be around by then thats why[/quotee3c08ea656]

Brandarama will be around for a long time, they are a multi-million dollar company.[/quotee3c08ea656]

yeah casue multi million dollar compaines never go out of business. ?[/quotee3c08ea656]

after all the information we have posted, you all still doubt. Geezzz. Have you looked at who they are associated with and the billions they make and how they do it?

If anything, they will start DQ'ing people.

bruman

08-04-2008 11:30:15

[quote9fe1fa64c6="dubbin87"][quote9fe1fa64c6="bruman"][quote9fe1fa64c6="orangejuice"]are you serious? they probably wont be around by then thats why[/quote9fe1fa64c6]

Brandarama will be around for a long time, they are a multi-million dollar company.[/quote9fe1fa64c6]

yeah casue multi million dollar companies never go out of business. ?[/quote9fe1fa64c6]

That's not what I said. They are a big enterprise, they are making money... they would have no reason to go out of business. Creating 1 million new customer leads per month, 90 billion impressions a year... that's not something you're going to just give up for the hell of it. I'm just saying you guys shouting "Brandama is going under! Brandarama is going under!" don't understand just how BIG they (Brandarama/ARG) are. Don't let a little uncertainty about the future get the best of you.

Anyways, I just talked to ARG and they said ALL July VISAs will be shipped within the next 4 weeks.

tylerc

08-04-2008 12:16:37

Awesome, I'm a July $1000 Visa.

chewy

08-04-2008 13:47:38

i got my 1000 yourtopbrands gift card today. i think i was in july. i cant be sure i cant login to my acct

HVACgal

08-04-2008 17:51:48

[quotebcf007f15f="chewy"]i got my 1000 yourtopbrands gift card today. i think i was in july. i cant be sure i cant login to my acct[/quotebcf007f15f]
Chewy, what is the initial of your first name? I am still waiting on my $1000 Visa from July and I am T.

chewy

08-04-2008 19:03:04

[quote15803b6256="HVACgal"][quote15803b6256="chewy"]i got my 1000 yourtopbrands gift card today. i think i was in july. i cant be sure i cant login to my acct[/quote15803b6256]
Chewy, what is the initial of your first name? I am still waiting on my $1000 Visa from July and I am T.[/quote15803b6256]

M

Swat1

08-04-2008 21:24:53

[quote23379344ce="zr2152"][quote23379344ce="dubbin87"][quote23379344ce="bruman"][quote23379344ce="orangejuice"]are you serious? they probably wont be around by then thats why[/quote23379344ce]

Brandarama will be around for a long time, they are a multi-million dollar company.[/quote23379344ce]

yeah casue multi million dollar compaines never go out of business. ?[/quote23379344ce]

after all the information we have posted, you all still doubt. Geezzz. Have you looked at who they are associated with and the billions they make and how they do it?

If anything, they will start DQ'ing people.[/quote23379344ce]

i'm pretty sure bear stearns is associated w/ much better companies...or was. lol

tylerc

08-04-2008 21:27:51

[quote26605ec163="HVACgal"][quote26605ec163="chewy"]i got my 1000 yourtopbrands gift card today. i think i was in july. i cant be sure i cant login to my acct[/quote26605ec163]
Chewy, what is the initial of your first name? I am still waiting on my $1000 Visa from July and I am T.[/quote26605ec163]

I'm a T as well, still waiting on mine, doesn't say shipped either.

beerman

15-04-2008 06:28:55

I was told by CS that all the September Sports Authority Cards will be sent out within 4 weeks. I hope this is true....

beerman

17-04-2008 05:37:20

Anyone get a HHSC Sears Card recently? My friend is still waiting on his, her was CTS 9/6 with D as his first initial

nousername

17-04-2008 12:30:20

[quoted25f18d9b5="beerman1976"]Anyone get a HHSC Sears Card recently? My friend is still waiting on his, her was CTS 9/6 with D as his first initial[/quoted25f18d9b5]

I received mine mid Feb, CTS end Aug.

oleus

24-04-2008 21:27:28

just had a $150 visa gc from JULY ship, so maybe they're finally finishing up July.

tylerc

28-04-2008 13:47:39

Shipped for my July 17th $1000 VISA!!! 4/24 ship date D

ILoveToys

28-04-2008 13:55:04

[quote5cbeb488a3="tylerc"]Shipped for my July 17th $1000 VISA!!! 4/24 ship date D[/quote5cbeb488a3]

very nice.

rustvyper

01-05-2008 11:07:44

wow, 3 months killing bad guys in the desert & they are still on their september shiping list! same as when I left...Iraqis get stuff done faster than them.

zr2152

01-05-2008 11:43:52

[quote4ec30832fa="oleus"]just had a $150 visa gc from JULY ship, so maybe they're finally finishing up July.[/quote4ec30832fa]


Yup sure looks like it.

If they are going by name then Tyler, you are obviously near the end of the list. If they are going by date, then they are near the end also cause you were end of July CTS.

Nice work guys! I bet it feels good huh. Hopefully I get mine at the end of next month. I am CTS Aug 24th for my 1000 Visa.

oleus

03-05-2008 09:51:00

anyone know how far along they are on sept-confirmed NON visas? i have a bunch of october confirmed cards (amex, circuit city, etc).

thanks

bryanvanalmkerk

07-05-2008 12:12:35

Confirmed; to be shipped since aug 2007 for 1k visa gift card.

tylerc

07-05-2008 12:23:38

Join the club.

fbskiracer

07-05-2008 13:47:01

I'm moving. This is going to be fun changing addresses.

tylerc

07-05-2008 13:47:39

Actually, it'll be really easy, their CS is great. Just e-mail them and tell them your new address and they will respond within a day probably.

edgespeeder04

07-05-2008 20:36:49

i wonder if this is true but a friend told me that brandarama is sub. gifts with checks, can anyone confirm that?

slambam

07-05-2008 21:39:55

nope

tylerc

08-05-2008 07:03:44

Not true at all, I have never heard of anyone getting a check from Brandarama.

oleus

08-05-2008 07:09:46

[quote33483b38e7="tylerc"]Not true at all, I have never heard of anyone getting a check from Brandarama.[/quote33483b38e7]

they replaced a visa GC with a check for me 1.5 years ago - when i tried again during the July-delays they repeatedly refused to do this for me again.

stagefrog2

08-05-2008 13:10:18

[quotec41039880f="oleus"][quotec41039880f="tylerc"]Not true at all, I have never heard of anyone getting a check from Brandarama.[/quotec41039880f]

they replaced a visa GC with a check for me 1.5 years ago - when i tried again during the July-delays they repeatedly refused to do this for me again.[/quotec41039880f]

Someone over at JC was offered check instead
http//joshclark.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=970

freeipodplayer

08-05-2008 13:26:09

I just randomly, and out of the blue has a $500 Southwest Airlines gift card that was confirmed in November show up at my door step....

So where is everything I have confirmed in Sept. and Oct?

zr2152

08-05-2008 13:30:27

I emailed them last night and I got the "we are experiencing huge delays " response.

They then told me they are finishing up July (tylerc got his so looks like they might almost be done with that if they are going alphabetically) and they are on september for the non visas.

Congrats on getting your airline card though. That's weird that it came already and you were CTS in November.

freeipodplayer

08-05-2008 13:32:56

[quoteb15153dc89="zr2152"]I emailed them last night and I got the "we are experiencing huge delays " response.

They then told me they are finishing up July (tylerc got his so looks like they might almost be done with that if they are going alphabetically) and they are on september for the non visas.

Congrats on getting your airline card though. That's weird that it came already and you were CTS in November.[/quoteb15153dc89]

I had another buddy get his Shell Gas Cards... he was confirmed in Nov. as well.

zr2152

08-05-2008 13:33:52

That's so weird. They seem to not be organized at all over there. I wonder what is going through their heads at the shipping department.

manOFice

08-05-2008 13:36:55

1k Visa, 500 BB, 500 Lowes, 500 Amex all CTS in Oct, nothing yet, but thats expected

zr2152

08-05-2008 13:42:27

damn, you're going to have a nice payday coming up soon.

oleus

08-05-2008 15:42:59

[quote5671b09385="manOFice"]1k Visa, 500 BB, 500 Lowes, 500 Amex all CTS in Oct, nothing yet, but thats expected[/quote5671b09385]

i have a lot of non-visas from OCT as well - weird that other people November's have shipped, let's hope Brandarama hasn't skipped over October! it really would not surprise me at this point....

zr2152

08-05-2008 16:01:14

They told me today that they are still on September.

tylerc

12-05-2008 10:06:51

Anyone get credit for Identity Sweep? I did it last week for TrustedRewards ($500 Macy's) and it did not credit Friday.

slambam

12-05-2008 11:49:01

I was just checking the status of some offers, and I haven't done any offers for it, but it says "Qualified, need confirmation". I click that link and it gives me forms to send in for the $500 Visa, strange?

wiebelhaus03

12-05-2008 16:26:48

[quotefed5bd412a="tylerc"]Anyone get credit for Identity Sweep? I did it last week for TrustedRewards ($500 Macy's) and it did not credit Friday.[/quotefed5bd412a]

I did it on 5/2 (fri afternoon) and it credited 5/9

ILoveToys

12-05-2008 16:57:06

Just went CTS on the Macy's card.....I'll be seeing that one in a year or so )

Zags1199

12-05-2008 18:12:20

Hopefully my September AMEX from TrustedRewards goes shipped soon. Then I have a $500 Visa and $1000 Visa for August, too.

tylerc

13-05-2008 05:07:45

[quote7198b2dfc0="ILoveToys"]Just went CTS on the Macy's card.....I'll be seeing that one in a year or so )[/quote7198b2dfc0]

Probably sooner than that, store gift cards are usually much faster to ship.

ILoveToys

13-05-2008 13:42:01

[quote7995569f79="tylerc"][quote7995569f79="ILoveToys"]Just went CTS on the Macy's card.....I'll be seeing that one in a year or so )[/quote7995569f79]

Probably sooner than that, store gift cards are usually much faster to ship.[/quote7995569f79]

Yeah...I know...I'm just not hoping for it anytime soon.

orangejuice

13-05-2008 14:13:45

i havent looked at my status in months...not about to either

RolltheStampede

13-05-2008 14:15:07

i should be getting my sports authority cards pretty soon then my mom should get her 1k card and september people should start seeing those scholarships any month now

tiffrnwhitney

13-05-2008 17:17:29

I received the $2500 for Sept. awhile ago! Of course it is already gone!

michae229

13-05-2008 22:57:50

[quote1bb3fc3f70="tiffrnwhitney"]I received the $2500 for Sept. awhile ago! Of course it is already gone![/quote1bb3fc3f70]

damn how long it take?

tiffrnwhitney

14-05-2008 06:27:14

I took forever! I was confirmed to ship Sept. 11, 2007 and showed a shipped date of March 19th. I spent it a quicker than they shipped it! Got some nice granite countertops on the way! 8)

orangejuice

14-05-2008 07:28:33

sweet...was it a check?

tylerc

14-05-2008 07:54:46

It may or may not have been a check.

tiffrnwhitney

14-05-2008 08:03:56

I meant to say that "IT" tool forever, not "I" ?

Anyways, yea it was a check, now it is in the form of emerald pearl granite, LOL
Now, I am really wanting my Sears card, confirmed to ship in Sept. so I can finish up my kitchen!

tylerc

14-05-2008 08:06:36

I want my Nordstrom's giftcard so I can get fratty.

RolltheStampede

14-05-2008 11:11:47

well that is good to know im on october list.

oleus

14-05-2008 11:14:26

[quotef3beb24363="RolltheStampede"]well that is good to know im on october list.[/quotef3beb24363]

waiting on several items from october - any idea when they might get to those?

PS still waiting on some july visas, hope they can finish those soon!

manOFice

14-05-2008 11:48:56

[quoted77d231fff="oleus"][quoted77d231fff="RolltheStampede"]well that is good to know im on october list.[/quoted77d231fff]

waiting on several items from october - any idea when they might get to those?

PS still waiting on some july visas, hope they can finish those soon![/quoted77d231fff]

I'm also waiting on a bunch from oct, we probably have 2 more months.

tylerc

14-05-2008 11:50:39

Still waiting on Identity Sweep 360 to credit...anyone else not get credit for this?

ploppsdman

14-05-2008 15:31:17

These identity protection services arent crediting for crap ... I'm on week 3 for lifelock.

RyanG

14-05-2008 21:15:00

On 'J' for $500 AMEX.

tylerc

14-05-2008 21:31:07

For September?

RyanG

15-05-2008 04:26:44

[quote5f0e665662="tylerc"]For September?[/quote5f0e665662]

Yes.

ashilef

15-05-2008 12:10:23

[quote9fa8b193ca]Dear,

Thank you for contacting us.

We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the July mailing list for the visa gift cards and the September mailing list for all other gifts.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,

Brandarama Member Support[/quote9fa8b193ca]

I find it interesting that they say they are still on Sept for regular gifts when people from Nov. got their ipods in february...meh whatever...

tbjstet

15-05-2008 12:16:09

you got your $2500 , wow. i am confirmed to ship in sept for it and still dont have it, ugggg

tylerc

15-05-2008 12:21:49

You should have it soon, that e-mail said September for all gifts except Visas.

massman

16-05-2008 11:47:45

$1350 in Sports Authority Gift Cards
Shipped
[May-15-08 228 PM]


sweeeet

ashilef

16-05-2008 12:24:26

[quote87905ccbef="massman"]$1350 in Sports Authority Gift Cards
Shipped
[May-15-08 228 PM]

sweeeet[/quote87905ccbef]

Congrats, when were you CTS?

massman

16-05-2008 13:56:38

[quote4d87a4f924="ashilef"][quote4d87a4f924="massman"]$1350 in Sports Authority Gift Cards
Shipped
[May-15-08 228 PM]

sweeeet[/quote4d87a4f924]

Congrats, when were you CTS?[/quote4d87a4f924]

sept 15

samohtm

16-05-2008 14:26:42

$1350 in Sports Authority Gift Cards
Shipped
[May-15-08 230 PM]


CTS Sept. 20

Last Name "T"

RolltheStampede

16-05-2008 14:33:01

darn it i thought i was september guess i got another 2 months or so.

Swat1

18-05-2008 22:36:28

[quote1376a36ae3="samohtm"]$1350 in Sports Authority Gift Cards
Shipped
[May-15-08 230 PM]


CTS Sept. 20

Last Name "T"[/quote1376a36ae3]

Is it first name or last name?

my initials are FC
and i got this card over a month ago...damn,they are slow.

bgarmon

19-05-2008 00:45:33

Ni, I can 3. A 500 visa from man, a petco car 250 and the a 500 best buy card Dec1. Last name is G,

tylerc

19-05-2008 06:25:56

[quote1505b43944="bgarmon"]Ni, I can 3. A 500 visa from man, a petco car 250 and the a 500 best buy card Dec1. Last name is G,[/quote1505b43944]

?

mooooop

19-05-2008 08:38:28

is anyone in this thread still waiting for an ipod touch? i just found this site and have been waiting for mine since i was confirmed back on jan 11 with wholesomerewards. wondering if anyone has received theirs recently and how long they had to wait, been waiting over 18 weeks.

manOFice

19-05-2008 08:44:11

[quotefb31cd197f="mooooop"]is anyone in this thread still waiting for an iPod touch? i just found this site and have been waiting for mine since i was confirmed back on jan 11 with wholesomerewards. wondering if anyone has received theirs recently and how long they had to wait, been waiting over 18 weeks.[/quotefb31cd197f]

4.5 months isn't that long of waiting ... is this the site where everyone got their itouches a long time ago?

wiebelhaus03

19-05-2008 10:01:42

no the other site was pollprizeusa

mooooop

19-05-2008 10:16:54

[quote7553bd4982="manOFice"][quote7553bd4982="mooooop"]is anyone in this thread still waiting for an iPod touch? i just found this site and have been waiting for mine since i was confirmed back on jan 11 with wholesomerewards. wondering if anyone has received theirs recently and how long they had to wait, been waiting over 18 weeks.[/quote7553bd4982]

4.5 months isn't that long of waiting ... is this the site where everyone got their itouches a long time ago?[/quote7553bd4982]

Yeah, I know that for brandarama this is not a long wait, but I have heard others who got confirmed between October and December and they had received their ipods in about 15-16 weeks. I have not heard of anyone who has received one after mid March. They are now telling me they are on their September list which doesn't make sense since so many have sent many from later months.

manOFice

19-05-2008 10:21:24

[quote1828bc900e="mooooop"][quote1828bc900e="manOFice"][quote1828bc900e="mooooop"]is anyone in this thread still waiting for an iPod touch? i just found this site and have been waiting for mine since i was confirmed back on jan 11 with wholesomerewards. wondering if anyone has received theirs recently and how long they had to wait, been waiting over 18 weeks.[/quote1828bc900e]

4.5 months isn't that long of waiting ... is this the site where everyone got their itouches a long time ago?[/quote1828bc900e]

Yeah, I know that for brandarama this is not a long wait, but I have heard others who got confirmed between October and December and they had received their ipods in about 15-16 weeks. I have not heard of anyone who has received one after mid March. They are now telling me they are on their September list which doesn't make sense since so many have sent many from later months.[/quote1828bc900e]

Like wiebelhaus03 said, the site where people were receiving their itouches were from a different site than what you did so you probably have a long wait.

freeipodplayer

19-05-2008 13:21:53

$500 Sears Gift Card
Shipped
[May-19-08

CTS sept

maverik

19-05-2008 14:42:29

[quotedd97fff5d4="freeipodplayer"]$500 Sears Gift Card
Shipped
[May-19-08

CTS sept[/quotedd97fff5d4]

Ditto! Maybe I'll get my Macy's next week....

soccerbud

19-05-2008 14:53:21

i've gone 0/4 for brandarama over the past 2 weeks. I am wondering if anyone are having problems receiving credits from brandarama recently?

ILoveToys

19-05-2008 15:19:52

[quotec67e211365="soccerbud"]i've gone 0/4 for brandarama over the past 2 weeks. I am wondering if anyone are having problems receiving credits from brandarama recently?[/quotec67e211365]

I've been 100% successful in the offers I've done in the last couple weeks. I did 4 more yesterday on the Mac Mini site, and 1 of 4 has credited so far, and hopefully the rest will credit on Friday afternoon like normal.

ashilef

19-05-2008 17:13:32

[quote397c2b3412="mooooop"]is anyone in this thread still waiting for an iPod touch? i just found this site and have been waiting for mine since i was confirmed back on jan 11 with wholesomerewards. wondering if anyone has received theirs recently and how long they had to wait, been waiting over 18 weeks.[/quote397c2b3412]

Im waiting on one but I wasn't CTS until 2/29..you'll probably get it soon. It's weird how some got theirs in exactly 12 wks, but you've waited over 18.

fbskiracer

21-05-2008 08:54:59

[quote049ca793d8]Thank you for contacting us.

We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the July mailing list for the visa gift cards and the September mailing list for all other gifts.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Anne
YourTopBrands Member Support [/quote049ca793d8]

Not much if any of an update compared to the posts here. but its "official"

Although I could be missing something but it seems they have been working on the July list since almost october.

zr2152

21-05-2008 12:30:09

Yeah they have cause that was when that 4 offer $1000 Visa was completed the most. That and August have a TON of completions.

nwong82

21-05-2008 15:34:57

is anyone still doing Brandarama sites? I need a freebie fix and im archiving some $500 amex, visa 4 offer sites and im tempted to do. Brandarama will still be around for the next 6 months at least i hope.... right??

wiebelhaus03

21-05-2008 15:35:56

it will take longer than 6 months to receive your gifts, especially if its a visa

ILoveToys

21-05-2008 15:41:38

I'm still doing about a site every 3 or 4 weeks of theirs. I figure the prizes will start rolling in again at some point. I am up the better part of $2000 in received prizes already.

nwong82

21-05-2008 15:53:30

sounds good to me
think of it like a long term investment. I think someone else on this board used that phrase

oleus

21-05-2008 15:54:02

[quote786ef86a57="zr2152"]Yeah they have cause that was when that 4 offer $1000 Visa was completed the most. That and August have a TON of completions.[/quote786ef86a57]

if august takes as long as July did, we're looking at a year+ wait now on visas.

tylerc

21-05-2008 15:57:49

It was 10 months for me to receive my $1000 Visa, I was CTS 7/19/07 and received 5/1/2007

mookieb2

21-05-2008 19:52:42

My buddy Zach did the mac mini offers on Monday and went confirmed on all offers today.

Pretty sweet.

slambam

21-05-2008 20:31:10

[quotebc56c425d3="mookieb2"]My buddy Zach did the mac mini offers on Monday and went confirmed on all offers today.

Pretty sweet.[/quotebc56c425d3]

Does he have to submit a W-9 with the forms for that gift?

tylerc

21-05-2008 23:04:50

Yes, I had to with mine. I sent the forms in last week.

linglingfool

21-05-2008 23:13:22

I'm not sure if I'm the only one thinking this or not, but I might as well ask at what point does the wait become too long? If you're considering the $1,000 Visas, the dollar will have depreciated enough over the course of 12-18 months to make a noticable difference in the value of your money.

While Brandarama/ARG doesn't promise that all gifts will be shipped in 6-8 weeks, they do STRONGLY suggest that is the case. At this point, their operation seems to be similar to a Ponzi, as they're waiting for money to slowly trickle in in order to pay old clients. Does it bother no one else that it could be another 2-3 years before they get their Visas?

I'm not saying they're all bad; I was one of the ones who got the iPod Touch in exactly 12 weeks. I just can't believe it would take more than 6 months to complete a single month's list.

zr2152

21-05-2008 23:21:30

We've explained it many times before.

reading is fundamental.

2-3 years? Really?

And no, the dollar will not depreciate enough in the next 12-18 months to make a NOTICEABLE difference in our money.

oleus

22-05-2008 08:41:33

but what's troubling is this - they've been working on July for over 6 months now. If August takes 6 months, that's almost December before they move onto Sept 07, then Summer of 2009 before they move onto October 07, and on and on.....

so those of us with recently confirmed Visas could potentially be seeing MORE than a 2-3 year wait unless something drastically changes. They're STILL not done with July 07 (waiting on a $500 Visa) and it's almost June 08.

manOFice

22-05-2008 08:49:34

[quote2531c45684="oleus"]but what's troubling is this - they've been working on July for over 6 months now. If August takes 6 months, that's almost December before they move onto Sept 07, then Summer of 2009 before they move onto October 07, and on and on.....

so those of us with recently confirmed Visas could potentially be seeing MORE than a 2-3 year wait unless something drastically changes. They're STILL not done with July 07 (waiting on a $500 Visa) and it's almost June 08.[/quote2531c45684]

They took down the site after awhile, so it should speed up after about oct's list.

bruman

22-05-2008 09:25:02

My $500 Visa GC from July went shipped yesterday dance

manOFice

22-05-2008 09:50:13

[quotef559ce3be9="bruman"]My $500 Visa GC from July went shipped yesterday dance[/quotef559ce3be9]

woot

ILoveToys

22-05-2008 13:27:26

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[May-22-08 XXX PM]

)

manOFice

22-05-2008 13:41:29

[quoteab0d3d91d2="ILoveToys"]$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[May-22-08 XXX PM]

)[/quoteab0d3d91d2]

When were you CTS??

RyanG

22-05-2008 13:48:41

[quote8ceafad0b2="ILoveToys"]$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[May-22-08 XXX PM]

)[/quote8ceafad0b2]

First Initial please? )

ploppsdman

22-05-2008 13:50:45

Is there any proof that they ship by first initial? I ask b/c always having someone ask about the first initial is gettin' old .... I understand why you're asking, so don't consider it a shot at anyone, I just want to know if there's any proof that that's how it goes.

oleus

22-05-2008 13:51:49

i think at this point they ship according to who emails them the least asking where their cards are. which is why i'm still waiting for my last $500 visa.

RyanG

22-05-2008 13:54:08

[quotefcebdabeed="ploppsdman"]Is there any proof that they ship by first initial? I ask b/c always having someone ask about the first initial is gettin' old .... I understand why you're asking, so don't consider it a shot at anyone, I just want to know if there's any proof that that's how it goes.[/quotefcebdabeed]

Yes, there is proof. It's how they figure out the lists.

"Dear ME,

Thank you for contacting us.

I believe it is "j" something around there. You are "r" it will still be awhile yet until they order your gift.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
TrustedRewards Member Support "

This was from May 14th so I'd imagine Toys is around that initial.

freeipodplayer

22-05-2008 13:59:47

Trusted Rewards 500 amex shipped today.

CTS sept.

First initial J

freeipodplayer

22-05-2008 14:00:31

[quote405a71e66c="ploppsdman"]Is there any proof that they ship by first initial? I ask b/c always having someone ask about the first initial is gettin' old .... I understand why you're asking, so don't consider it a shot at anyone, I just want to know if there's any proof that that's how it goes.[/quote405a71e66c]

They ship by site and then first initial. straight from CS.

ILoveToys

22-05-2008 16:10:56

Site RewardsParade
CTS 9/13/07
FI L

KevinInTx

22-05-2008 18:17:02

Yahoo!!!!

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[May-22-08 235 PM]

CTS Sept 7

Initials KP

zr2152

22-05-2008 21:55:49

Congrats!

It's about time!

oleus

22-05-2008 23:20:11

can't wait for sept. CTS's to finish and Octobers to start for non-visas....i have some good stuff coming from that month.

oandm6599

23-05-2008 00:07:04

Anybody with last name starting with S gotten theirs? I was CTS on July 13, 2007 and I asked Brandarama people what's going on, in a nice way of course. This is their response as of May 22, 2008 for those interested

[b8570a4f7dd]Thank you for contacting us.

The shipping department said they are waiting for these to arrive from the vendor.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support [/color8570a4f7dd][/b8570a4f7dd]

RyanG

23-05-2008 04:18:11

[quoted9951cd050="oandm6599"]Anybody with last name starting with S gotten theirs? I was CTS on July 13, 2007 and I asked Brandarama people what's going on, in a nice way of course. This is their response as of May 22, 2008 for those interested

[bd9951cd050]Thank you for contacting us.

The shipping department said they are waiting for these to arrive from the vendor.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support [/colord9951cd050][/bd9951cd050][/quoted9951cd050]

It's by first name and first initial, not last name.

tylerc

23-05-2008 06:15:50

I'm wondering if the shipping chaos will die down after these July/August Visas? My only other gift I have CTS now is the $825 Nordstrom's 11/5, but I will have several gifts being CTS within the next couple of weeks.

RyanG

23-05-2008 06:27:40

[quote771078c013="tylerc"]I'm wondering if the shipping chaos will die down after these July/August Visas? My only other gift I have CTS now is the $825 Nordstrom's 11/5, but I will have several gifts being CTS within the next couple of weeks.[/quote771078c013]

I believe most of the 3 offer $500 AMEX and the low offer VISA's are now dead so it should pick up some but that's in theory )

manOFice

23-05-2008 07:02:17

[quotea7bccb72ad="RyanG"][quotea7bccb72ad="tylerc"]I'm wondering if the shipping chaos will die down after these July/August Visas? My only other gift I have CTS now is the $825 Nordstrom's 11/5, but I will have several gifts being CTS within the next couple of weeks.[/quotea7bccb72ad]

I believe most of the 3 offer $500 AMEX and the low offer VISA's are now dead so it should pick up some but that's in theory )[/quotea7bccb72ad]

yeah they've been dead for awhile now, which is good hopefully they'll get get things rolling a bit faster

mookieb2

23-05-2008 15:02:10

Just did this one. Think they send checks faster?


http//www.yourtopbrands.com/NYfu861dd8673?sud=5539
5 offers for a $500 check.

wiebelhaus03

23-05-2008 15:12:10

thats not a check, its a gift voucher for delta airlines....

tylerc

23-05-2008 15:27:45

It says on the page "$500 gift check"

Try reading....

bruman

23-05-2008 15:44:02

[quote038c82b5d7="mookieb2"]Just did this one. Think they send checks faster?


http//www.yourtopbrands.com/NYfu861dd8673?sud=5539
5 offers for a $500 check.[/quote038c82b5d7]

Scholarship checks are on the same month as everyone else (Sept.) excluding Visas of course

wiebelhaus03

23-05-2008 15:45:47

[quote35ee7cc4ce="tylerc"]It says on the page "$500 gift check"

Try reading....[/quote35ee7cc4ce]

guess what? i do know how to read....i figured "Official Gift Rules for redemption of the $500 Gift Check good towards travel via Delta Airlines" meant that it is a voucher since it states gift check towards delta airlines rather than plain old $500 check

michae229

23-05-2008 18:18:17

[quotee6097d8f65="wiebelhaus03"][quotee6097d8f65="tylerc"]It says on the page "$500 gift check"

Try reading....[/quotee6097d8f65]

guess what? i do know how to read....i figured "Official Gift Rules for redemption of the $500 Gift Check good towards travel via Delta Airlines" meant that it is a voucher since it states gift check towards delta airlines rather than plain old $500 check[/quotee6097d8f65]

tyler stop being an ass its a voucher people have gotten that now deal with it.

massman

24-05-2008 10:08:53

[quoteea869ecabd="massman"]$1350 in Sports Authority Gift Cards
Shipped
[May-15-08 228 PM]


sweeeet[/quoteea869ecabd]

hmmmm....still hasn't arrived cry

bruman

24-05-2008 10:40:19

Got my $500 VISA today D
Thanks Brandarama

orangejuice

24-05-2008 10:52:41

congrats bruman, when were you confirmed and what is your first initial?

bruman

24-05-2008 10:55:17

[quote6046658687="orangejuice"]congrats bruman, when were you confirmed and what is your first initial?[/quote6046658687]

July 3rd and B. Only a 10 month, 3 week wait P

orangejuice

25-05-2008 14:26:50

buncha bullshit

tylerc

25-05-2008 14:58:06

??

if you don't like the wait, don't do the sites, that's the beautiful thing about capitalism, there's someone else in the industry to get your product from (i-Deal, NuiTech, Trainn, etc).

steveyankee

25-05-2008 15:30:07

Way to assume he was talking about the wait.........

Ever think his response was made because he was CTS before him, so it's BS he got his first?

But hey, if you want to keep assuming things about people, go ahead.

zr2152

25-05-2008 15:51:39

roll

freeipodplayer

25-05-2008 16:18:18

[quote95d4ebbd7a="zr2152"]roll[/quote95d4ebbd7a]

roll

zr2152

25-05-2008 16:38:07

OMGZZZ YTP AND BRANDARAMA TAKE FOREVERZ TO SHIPZZ?!!!?!

steveyankee

25-05-2008 21:41:17

[quoteb093237035="zr2152"]OMGZZZ YTP AND BRANDARAMA TAKE FOREVERZ TO SHIPZZ?!!!?![/quoteb093237035]

Are you ten?

Wait, you're from Ohio too. I would like to see you talk like that in real life.

mistertomlinson

26-05-2008 05:25:47

[quote3928d7eb93="freeipodplayer"][quote3928d7eb93="zr2152"]roll[/quote3928d7eb93]

roll[/quote3928d7eb93]

roll

ILoveToys

26-05-2008 07:14:55

[quotebb0cc58374="mistertomlinson"][quotebb0cc58374="freeipodplayer"][quotebb0cc58374="zr2152"]roll[/quotebb0cc58374]

roll[/quotebb0cc58374]

roll[/quotebb0cc58374]

roll

zr2152

26-05-2008 08:22:33

[quote673609b70c="steveyankee"][quote673609b70c="zr2152"]OMGZZZ YTP AND BRANDARAMA TAKE FOREVERZ TO SHIPZZ?!!!?![/quote673609b70c]

Are you ten?

Wait, you're from Ohio too. I would like to see you talk like that in real life.[/quote673609b70c]


Yeah I'm 10.

roll

ashilef

26-05-2008 09:04:01

[quote2006021a19="ILoveToys"][quote2006021a19="mistertomlinson"][quote2006021a19="freeipodplayer"][quote2006021a19="zr2152"]roll[/quote2006021a19]

roll[/quote2006021a19]

roll[/quote2006021a19]

roll[/quote2006021a19]
roll

tylerc

26-05-2008 12:10:50

[quote7dbddb6fca="steveyankee"][quote7dbddb6fca="zr2152"]OMGZZZ YTP AND BRANDARAMA TAKE FOREVERZ TO SHIPZZ?!!!?![/quote7dbddb6fca]

Are you ten?

Wait, you're from Ohio too. I would like to see you talk like that in real life.[/quote7dbddb6fca]

What does Ohio have to do with anything? Take a joke.

zr2152

26-05-2008 12:24:15

word.

Well it's good that people are finally getting their Visas from July.

Hopefully I see my August 1K by the end of June or mid July.

Zags1199

26-05-2008 13:00:58

[quote00a27d9754="KevinInTx"]Yahoo!!!!

$500 American Express Gift Card
Shipped
[May-22-08 235 PM]

CTS Sept 7

Initials KP[/quote00a27d9754]

Which site was this on?

zr2152

26-05-2008 19:26:34

I'm guessing either brandarama or Rewards Parade.

RolltheStampede

27-05-2008 07:01:05

well hopefully july was the huge hump of people completing the sites so maybe they get a little faster?

i want my projector at this point, i could probably watch the dark knight on blu ray on it by the time i get it.

KevinInTx

27-05-2008 07:09:33

[quote2f125a0300="zr2152"]I'm guessing either brandarama or Rewards Parade.[/quote2f125a0300]

Yep, Brandarama.
I got it on Saturday...

I know this has been covered, but how do I get the cash out of it since it doesn't have a PIN associated with it???

ploppsdman

27-05-2008 10:16:58

I think people were talking about paying yourself for something through paypal .... whether it works I dont know .. but if you find out a way, let me know. Another possible end around is buying something with partial payments ... pay with a cc for some of an item and pay with the gift card for the rest .. then return the item and claim you threw out the gift card. They should put the full amount on your credit card.

kidd2108

27-05-2008 10:37:59

[quoteaff5139d58="KevinInTx"][quoteaff5139d58="zr2152"]I'm guessing either brandarama or Rewards Parade.[/quoteaff5139d58]

Yep, Brandarama.
I got it on Saturday...

I know this has been covered, but how do I get the cash out of it since it doesn't have a PIN associated with it???[/quoteaff5139d58]

you dont.

Buy something and sell it.

ploppsdman

27-05-2008 10:55:35

I'm guessing either brandarama or Rewards Parade.

Yep, Brandarama.
I got it on Saturday...

I know this has been covered, but how do I get the cash out of it since it doesn't have a PIN associated with it???


you dont.

Buy something and sell it.


Yeah, you can also buy 2 wii's and sell them in your local paper for $240. That should sell pretty damn quick.

madmanx33

27-05-2008 15:39:40

Ah times like these its great having a a merchant account

viperklt21

28-05-2008 13:38:56

so I have the 4 offer visa parked.. do you think I would get d/qed for doing it?

zr2152

28-05-2008 13:56:08

They have never DQ'ed anyone...

tylerc

28-05-2008 16:02:42

[quotee1feda8e69="viperklt21"]so I have the 4 offer visa parked.. do you think I would get d/qed for doing it?[/quotee1feda8e69]

Their terms

[quotee1feda8e69]In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all of the sponsor offers that require you to sample and purchase products of interest within 180 days of signing up for our service.

Once you have satisfied your sponsor requirements you will receive an email confirmation with redemption instructions and you will see a confirm button appear in the Gift Status section above. You will have 90 days from the date of qualification to complete the confirmation requirements[/quotee1feda8e69]

However, it has since been confirmed here that the TOS means 180 days from the day you START your offers, I believe. Feel free to correct me on this.

slambam

28-05-2008 17:32:32

I parked it last May, and didn't start offers til January, CTS in February. They didn't DQ me.

steveyankee

28-05-2008 21:16:55

[quotecee1ed07e0="KevinInTx"][quotecee1ed07e0="zr2152"]I'm guessing either brandarama or Rewards Parade.[/quotecee1ed07e0]

Yep, Brandarama.
I got it on Saturday...

I know this has been covered, but how do I get the cash out of it since it doesn't have a PIN associated with it???[/quotecee1ed07e0]

Do the best buy trick.

I did it with my $500 best buy GC last week

I got my $500 Amex yesterday, and I'm going to do it again tomorrow.


Easiest way to get your full $500 D

tylerc

28-05-2008 22:01:43

Best Buy trick?

cronerd

28-05-2008 22:33:45

whats the best buy trick????

wiebelhaus03

29-05-2008 10:08:09

i'm assuming he means buy something thats more than the amount of your gift card, then pay the remaining amount with a credit/debit card. When you return it, have the money payed back onto your credit/debit card

maverik

29-05-2008 10:38:01

Yeah, that can be done with cash as well. Though I would say, why go through all that hassle when you can just get a "Svc Cash Out" which means, if you bring the card in, the manager can authorize a cash out for the balance on the card. Works every time... But that's not to say that it works at every B&M....

freeipodplayer

29-05-2008 13:47:45

hola

doylnea

29-05-2008 14:45:27

holy sweet fraud

dubbin87

29-05-2008 16:06:03

QUICK! Call the police!!!! I bet he used a VCC too!!!!!!!!!! shock

steveyankee

29-05-2008 17:15:43

[quote7ad5ba40ee="doylnea"]holy sweet fraud[/quote7ad5ba40ee]

omg you better call the police on them

tell the Sgt. you saw someone post online which tells you how to fraud best buy

and edit, that's not the way I was talking about

heather77

30-05-2008 11:41:59

How is it fraud to get cash out of a gift card? I know here in CA there was a successful lawsuit several years ago against the company I worked for at the time (Barnes & Noble) and the outcome was that gift certificates had to be redeemable for cash if requested. I know many stores will tell you that you can't, but if you ask the manager I believe it's the law now, at least in CA.

dubbin87

30-05-2008 12:06:52

[quotefa83efc64b="heather77"]How is it fraud to get cash out of a gift card? I know here in CA there was a successful lawsuit several years ago against the company I worked for at the time (Barnes & Noble) and the outcome was that gift certificates had to be redeemable for cash if requested. I know many stores will tell you that you can't, but if you ask the manager I believe it's the law now, at least in CA.[/quotefa83efc64b]

It's not, just another one of the made up rules this place tries to enforce on people.

freeipodplayer

30-05-2008 15:35:41

Had another 500 amex ship today.

Sept CTS

Rewards Parade

zr2152

30-05-2008 17:59:01

[quote9735337201="dubbin87"][quote9735337201="heather77"]How is it fraud to get cash out of a gift card? I know here in CA there was a successful lawsuit several years ago against the company I worked for at the time (Barnes & Noble) and the outcome was that gift certificates had to be redeemable for cash if requested. I know many stores will tell you that you can't, but if you ask the manager I believe it's the law now, at least in CA.[/quote9735337201]

It's not, just another one of the made up rules this place tries to enforce on people.[/quote9735337201]

No.

Zags1199

31-05-2008 19:11:22

Shipped for $500 AMEX on Trusted Rewards. First initial is M.

RyanG

31-05-2008 19:17:10

[quoteb38fc65489="Zags1199"]Shipped for $500 AMEX on Trusted Rewards. First initial is M.[/quoteb38fc65489]

Getting closer D

tylerc

31-05-2008 21:59:26

My friend is P and will be very happy about this D

MattMcQ

02-06-2008 07:07:14

i've only ever done gift card sites for brandarama...i just did the grill site, will I actually get a grill or just a check for the amount?

manOFice

02-06-2008 07:15:21

[quote0a8d876654="MattMcQ"]i've only ever done gift card sites for brandarama...i just did the grill site, will I actually get a grill or just a check for the amount?[/quote0a8d876654]

Depends, all the grill sites are a disconntinued product I believe, so in about 7 months, they might send you a check, a giftcard to buy a grill, or a new grill.

tylerc

02-06-2008 07:42:32

Usually Brandarama sends the actual gifts. I remember a couple years ago I did a site for a case of Red Bull, and they actually sent me Red Bull D

ashilef

02-06-2008 10:30:18

[quote65406f4531="tylerc"]Usually Brandarama sends the actual gifts. I remember a couple years ago I did a site for a case of Red Bull, and they actually sent me Red Bull D[/quote65406f4531]

How long did it take for you to get the Red Bull?

tylerc

02-06-2008 10:37:29

I don't remember, it was like 2 years ago.

oleus

02-06-2008 11:39:15

a few weeks ago a CSR emailed me back saying i would definitely see my last $500 July Visa ship within 7 days. it's still just CTS - i'm wondering if July has grinded to a halt again???? July 08 is next month!!!

Zags1199

02-06-2008 11:42:18

Got my $500 AMEX today.

oleus - Maybe you should call them.

tylerc

02-06-2008 11:52:18

What's your first initial Zags?

Zags1199

02-06-2008 12:18:27

M.

tylerc

02-06-2008 12:30:46

Awesome, thanks, my friend is still waiting on his.

I was confirmed to ship for 3 gifts at Brandarama today 1) Mac Mini (Brandarama), 2) $250 Shell Gas Card (YourTopBrands), 3) $500 Macy's gift card (Trusted Rewards) D

oleus

02-06-2008 12:55:29

[quotef9a3c27467="Zags1199"]Got my $500 AMEX today.

oleus - Maybe you should call them.[/quotef9a3c27467]

just tried calling and couldn't wait any longer on hold...

is anyone else here still waiting on a July confirmed Visa? as far as i know they still haven't moved ontp august have they?

manOFice

02-06-2008 13:38:41

[quotebf8eabe84c="oleus"][quotebf8eabe84c="Zags1199"]Got my $500 AMEX today.

oleus - Maybe you should call them.[/quotebf8eabe84c]

just tried calling and couldn't wait any longer on hold...

is anyone else here still waiting on a July confirmed Visa? as far as i know they still haven't moved ontp august have they?[/quotebf8eabe84c]

It's pretty safe to assume their not done with july yet

tbjstet

02-06-2008 13:54:55

I dont know why i have not gotten my $2500 ck yet, i was confirmed on sept 13th and my 1st name starts with a B. I call them and they say they are working on sept, so i dont really get a answer, evil

beerman

02-06-2008 19:20:28

you did get an answer - they're working on it.

zr2152

02-06-2008 19:35:57

[quote9f426aa23e="manOFice"][quote9f426aa23e="oleus"][quote9f426aa23e="Zags1199"]Got my $500 AMEX today.

oleus - Maybe you should call them.[/quote9f426aa23e]

just tried calling and couldn't wait any longer on hold...

is anyone else here still waiting on a July confirmed Visa? as far as i know they still haven't moved ontp august have they?[/quote9f426aa23e]

It's pretty safe to assume their not done with july yet[/quote9f426aa23e]

No they are still on July. I just emailed them today and they told me just that. Also, they are still on September for all non visas.

oandm6599

03-06-2008 06:54:41

I finally am "SHIPPED" on my July $600 Visa, WOO HOO!!! Better late than never, sweet. BTW, shipped on May 30, first initial M.


oandm6599

Swat1

04-06-2008 12:54:34

what about the gifts that aren't visas. what are they up to know?

do we have enough people for a large class action? lol

ILoveToys

04-06-2008 13:18:12

Why would you sue? They're still paying stuff out and they never DQ anyone for anything.

shortys408

04-06-2008 13:53:24

my yourtopbrands status dissapeared and i cant get a hold of anyone on their phone support.

tylerc

04-06-2008 14:20:51

Try e-mail, they respond quickly to that.

shortys408

05-06-2008 12:02:30

yea that worked

maverik

05-06-2008 13:05:50

$500 Macy's Gift Card
Shipped
[Jun-5-08...
D

bruman

05-06-2008 13:16:52

[quote24e3f04333="maverik"]$500 Macy's Gift Card
Shipped
[Jun-5-08...
D[/quote24e3f04333]

Congrats. September CTS?

maverik

05-06-2008 13:25:55

Yup

freeipodplayer

05-06-2008 14:10:28

$825 Nordstrom Gift Card
Shipped
[Jun-5-08]

tbjstet

05-06-2008 15:10:18

My $2500 shipped june 3 woo hooo

cfs sept 13th, 1st name B

Gman14

05-06-2008 15:35:32

dayummmm they're still pretty backed up. I have $500 "confirmed to be shipped" from February. Oh well, can't complain. At least they're shippin it out.

freeipodplayer

05-06-2008 16:35:35

[quoted2819d98ec="tbjstet"]My $2500 shipped june 3 woo hooo

cfs sept 13th, 1st name B[/quoted2819d98ec]

wtf, you were bitching 2 days ago about that.

slambam

05-06-2008 17:11:56

Sounds like they might be sending more often now. Recently it seems like I've been hearing about people going shipped weekly, rather than monthly. Or is it just me?

cronerd

05-06-2008 17:12:40

did anyone ever figure out what they were gonna send insted of the mac mini?? im talking about the 4 offer mac mini which has been discontinued...

slambam

05-06-2008 17:15:14

This is the only response I've gotten from them about it, "If the gift is no longer available we would either substitute it for one similar to it or with a gift card in the amount of what that item would normally cost." Nobody is CTS on it til recently, so obviously nobody has received it.

freeipodplayer

06-06-2008 08:54:26

[quotea858a543e1="cronerd"]did anyone ever figure out what they were gonna send insted of the mac mini?? im talking about the 4 offer mac mini which has been discontinued...[/quotea858a543e1]

They will likely send a check or a gift card to Best buy or circuit city.

Thats what I have seen in the past.

freeipodplayer

06-06-2008 08:54:59

[quote803f551e17="slambam"]This is the only response I've gotten from them about it, "If the gift is no longer available we would either substitute it for one similar to it or with a gift card in the amount of what that item would normally cost." Nobody is CTS on it til recently, so obviously nobody has received it.[/quote803f551e17]

Till recently? Fuck that site is wicked old.

tylerc

06-06-2008 08:58:45

I would be fine with a Best Buy gift card. Guess I'll find out in a year or whenever they get them out.

luumon

06-06-2008 12:15:43

[quotea8324ade58="tbjstet"]My $2500 shipped june 3 woo hooo

cfs sept 13th, 1st name B[/quotea8324ade58]

congrats. was checking mine and it turns out it completely disappear. only the $500 church offer is there which i never done. just emailed cs hopefully everything is good.

kalinkster

06-06-2008 17:31:41

I finally contacted Brandarama last week and got curious with my 2 pending gifts from them. Here are the messages I received from their CS support.

[quote6ecbae32ae]Thank you for contacting us.

We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the July mailing list for the visa gift cards and the September mailing list for all other gifts.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,[/quote6ecbae32ae]

[quote6ecbae32ae]At this time as far as the visa gift cards go I can not even give a guestimate. The Visa vendor is very slow and backed up. I apologize for the inconvience. I am positive you will recieve the best buy card before the visa gift card but at this time I really can't say when that will come either. The best advise i can give at this time is that if you have not recieved either of you cards approximately 3 weeks before you leave teh country, please inquire or call and we can forward these gifts to another address if you have a family member or someone you trust to recieve these on your behalf. Hopefully you will recieve the cards long before that but at this time I can not give a good estimate for shipping.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,[/quote6ecbae32ae]

I am waiting for $600 towards the Playstation 3 and $500 Best Buy Card. Both were CTS December 2007. I know, I know I have a long way to go before these cards show up. lol

tml09

06-06-2008 17:35:18

I'm cts january so I know what you mean -D

bradjohnson08

10-06-2008 11:56:47

My october 1350 SA gift card changed to shipped!!!! FINNNNALLLLLY

First letter "b"

ward_ku

10-06-2008 13:03:46

For the life of me I can't find any Brandarama link nor a list of what they offer. Is there a way to get this or can someone PM me or post a list of links? I've tried to read through the forum, but my eyes hurt and I'm frustrated.

orangejuice

10-06-2008 13:13:46

they are on october for SA cards now? nice. What site was that again, brandarama?

tylerc

10-06-2008 13:35:40

Yes, it's Brandarama.

bruman

10-06-2008 13:48:57

They transitioned to October fast... hopefully they keep the speed up! I'm a 'B' and am October for the $825 Nordstrom.. I'll let you know when that ships.

wiebelhaus03

10-06-2008 15:48:52

[quote25a5f5d5a7="ward_ku"]For the life of me I can't find any Brandarama link nor a list of what they offer. Is there a way to get this or can someone PM me or post a list of links? I've tried to read through the forum, but my eyes hurt and I'm frustrated.[/quote25a5f5d5a7]

I don't think I can link to other forums, but go to anything4free.com and free-youbetcha.com to see a couple very good brandarama lists

manOFice

10-06-2008 15:52:32

w00t, can't wait, got tons of things CTS in Oct

tylerc

10-06-2008 16:26:04

My $825 Nordstrom is CTS in November but I'm "T", so it will probably be August before I get my card.

manOFice

10-06-2008 16:52:27

I still have that nordstrom site parked i should do it

bruman

10-06-2008 17:57:32

[quotef6ab6c767e="tylerc"]My $825 Nordstrom is CTS in November but I'm "T", so it will probably be August before I get my card.[/quotef6ab6c767e]

So much for those swim trunks, eh? lol
I guess now you'll be able to buy a winter coat

bradjohnson08

10-06-2008 18:43:34

ok so a quick question.... looked back at my girlfriends apt account that she was doin and realized she only did 3 of the 4 offers (or one didnt credit) in september, so i called to see if she could finish it and she said i couldnt because its past 90 days, then i said if i logged in and it lets me click an offer to complete then i should be ok even thought its past the 90 days so she contradicted herself.... any ideas? should i go for it since its just one offer or am i screwed and will waste an offer?

Zags1199

10-06-2008 18:55:08

I wonder if this means they are on October for all non-Visas. I just e-mailed them a couple days ago and don't want to hassle them. Does anyone know anything definitive?

hum1m9e8r8b

10-06-2008 19:12:07

[quotedfb66fbe14="Zags1199"]I wonder if this means they are on October for all non-Visas. I just e-mailed them a couple days ago and don't want to hassle them. Does anyone know anything definitive?[/quotedfb66fbe14]
Yes, I saw a B from October go shipped.

slambam

10-06-2008 21:10:24

I'm B in Oct, yall made me look but nothing shipped yet. Will post when I do.

ward_ku

11-06-2008 00:27:02

[quote90461b9704="wiebelhaus03"][quote90461b9704="ward_ku"]For the life of me I can't find any Brandarama link nor a list of what they offer. Is there a way to get this or can someone PM me or post a list of links? I've tried to read through the forum, but my eyes hurt and I'm frustrated.[/quote90461b9704]

I don't think I can link to other forums, but go to anything4free.com and free-youbetcha.com to see a couple very good brandarama lists[/quote90461b9704]




Yeah still nothing. All I want to do is look for some offers from Brandarama that I can complete. How does everyone find these sites if they aren't listed anywhere? I've seen a few popups (rarely) on other pages, but nothing I have interest in. There has to be a list of links out there somewhere that I can choose from. I guess I'm missing something somewhere.

tylerc

11-06-2008 06:06:07

free-youbetcha.com has links. If you can't find them you're not looking in the right place.

Zags1199

11-06-2008 09:15:27

I got the following e-mail

Dear Member,

There has been a delay in the shipment of a few Visa Gift Cards. We apologize for the delay and the inconvenience this may have caused you. We would like to immediately ship your confirmed gift and hence would substitute your $500 Visa Gift Card with $500 American Express Gift Card. Please respond to us confirming your consent. Once we receive your acknowledgement, your gift will be shipped to you within a week.

Sincerely

Nancy,

Member Support

bruman

11-06-2008 09:19:11

[quote013b5897ed="Zags1199"]I got the following e-mail

Dear Member,

There has been a delay in the shipment of a few Visa Gift Cards. We apologize for the delay and the inconvenience this may have caused you. We would like to immediately ship your confirmed gift and hence would substitute your $500 Visa Gift Card with $500 American Express Gift Card. Please respond to us confirming your consent. Once we receive your acknowledgement, your gift will be shipped to you within a week.

Sincerely

Nancy,

Member Support[/quote013b5897ed]

Cool. What was your confirmed date?

Zags1199

11-06-2008 09:21:55

August 7th. First initial is M.

slambam

11-06-2008 09:35:37

Wow, maybe they weren't lying about there Visa GC vendor sucking.

tylerc

11-06-2008 09:55:31

Maybe they can offer substitutes for everyone, AMEX isn't as widely accepted as Visa, but it's still accepted at most big department stores and restaurants.

Zags1199

11-06-2008 10:14:28

When I e-mailed them back asking how long it would take for the Visa if I chose that or if I could get a check, I got the cookie-cutter response about what shipping lists they are on. Not too helpful.

manOFice

11-06-2008 10:15:31

[quoteae201cf3fc="tylerc"]Maybe they can offer substitutes for everyone, AMEX isn't as widely accepted as Visa, but it's still accepted at most big department stores and restaurants.[/quoteae201cf3fc]

I would gladly accept a AMEX for any offer I have out there for equal value

mariners1999

11-06-2008 11:23:06

[quote6a8d9fa5b1="tylerc"]Maybe they can offer substitutes for everyone, AMEX isn't as widely accepted as Visa, but it's still accepted at most big department stores and restaurants.[/quote6a8d9fa5b1]


Love AMEX!!!! Substitue me and I will have a shopping spree at my local COSTCO since all they accept is debit cards and AMEX!!!! D

M

oleus

11-06-2008 12:39:18

[quotefb1889d57f="Zags1199"]August 7th. First initial is M.[/quotefb1889d57f]

i am still waiting on a July Visa and haven't been able to get them to subsitute...this makes me mad!

dubbin87

11-06-2008 12:45:37

FWIW, they still are not completely done with Sept shipping, maybe wrapping up the gift cards but I inquired about the 37" plasma site and was told they are still on the Sept list for that. Also they are still unsure of what is really being sent out since that TV is no longer made. (

Zags1199

11-06-2008 12:51:12

[quote9d0c8f4634="oleus"][quote9d0c8f4634="Zags1199"]August 7th. First initial is M.[/quote9d0c8f4634]

i am still waiting on a July Visa and haven't been able to get them to subsitute...this makes me mad![/quote9d0c8f4634]

Well, I'm guessing this means they already ordered yours since they're offering this to August people. They probably don't want to deal with Visa anymore.

I'm kinda annoyed that when I responded back, they just gave the cookie-cutter answer. It makes me wonder about the communication between people there. Oh well, I e-mailed them back and hopefully will get an actual response soon.

RyanG

11-06-2008 12:51:13

[quoteb7bcba1f2e="dubbin87"]FWIW, they still are not completely done with Sept shipping, maybe wrapping up the gift cards but I inquired about the 37" plasma site and was told they are still on the Sept list for that. Also they are still unsure of what is really being sent out since that TV is no longer made. ([/quoteb7bcba1f2e]

R here and no $500 AMEX from Sept yet. They are not close to wrapping them up. Couple months left to go.

oleus

13-06-2008 10:04:07

after asking via email about getting an AMEX to replace my last July $500 visa, i just noticed that it SHIPPED yesterday...never got an email response so not sure if this is an Amex or the actual VIsa, but either way it's good news for anyone still waiting for a July Visa!

dubbin87

13-06-2008 11:05:59

I went shipped on a OCT $500 Lowes card. D

tiffrnwhitney

13-06-2008 11:25:35

I went shipped on 6/11/08 for my $500 Lowes card too. Confirmed to ship Oct., first initial T.

bruman

13-06-2008 11:33:06

Congrats

Zags1199

13-06-2008 11:38:12

Holy crap, nice! It looks like they're moving at a swifter pace now.

manOFice

13-06-2008 12:38:58

[quote782355aafc="tiffrnwhitney"]I went shipped on 6/11/08 for my $500 Lowes card too. Confirmed to ship Oct., first initial T.[/quote782355aafc]

Congrats but Booooo, first letter G

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-25-07 126 PM]

freeipodplayer

13-06-2008 13:12:09

[quote2970ff1492="manOFice"][quote2970ff1492="tiffrnwhitney"]I went shipped on 6/11/08 for my $500 Lowes card too. Confirmed to ship Oct., first initial T.[/quote2970ff1492]

Congrats but Booooo, first letter G

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-25-07 126 PM][/quote2970ff1492]

I am with you.

dubbin87

13-06-2008 13:51:36

[quote39b31354e6="manOFice"][quote39b31354e6="tiffrnwhitney"]I went shipped on 6/11/08 for my $500 Lowes card too. Confirmed to ship Oct., first initial T.[/quote39b31354e6]

Congrats but Booooo, first letter G

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-25-07 126 PM][/quote39b31354e6]



Although by the end of the day I bet yours might change, my "shipped" time was after 4pm.

manOFice

13-06-2008 14:11:01

I think i'll buy a huge grill at lowes, hehe

oleus

13-06-2008 14:21:19

[quote5256f1ad94="manOFice"]I think i'll buy a huge grill at lowes, hehe[/quote5256f1ad94]

so it sounds like the big rush of october shipments are are Lowes cards?

Zags1199

13-06-2008 15:09:53

I went shipped on the $500 Visa from PollPrizeUSA. I was confirmed on August 20th, and as explained above, they asked me to take an American Express card instead. First initial is M.

tiffrnwhitney

13-06-2008 15:21:47

Yea, I wonder how they ship things somethimes. Strange, my last inital is B and my first is T. So, I don't know what they do, as along as they ship I will be happy! I bought a grill with my sports authority cards and still $450 left to spend, can't figure out what to buy, ?

slambam

13-06-2008 16:31:23

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-30-07 1034 AM]

First initial B. What site do you all who went shipped used? Mine is Brandarama.

tiffrnwhitney

13-06-2008 17:06:52

Mine was on Brandarama

woohoo72

13-06-2008 17:07:49

visa shipped from aug 1st, doubt this initial thing has anything to do with it. so they are on august visas. will update if they sent me a amex though.

manOFice

13-06-2008 17:14:56

[quote3b6cdc8686="slambam"]$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-30-07 1034 AM]

First initial B. What site do you all who went shipped used? Mine is Brandarama.[/quote3b6cdc8686]

Mines brandarama as well

manOFice

14-06-2008 07:26:38

I just got a response on saturday morning saying they haven't start october gifts yet....

tiffrnwhitney

14-06-2008 07:35:44

I got one of those cookie cutter answers yesterday about July/Sept. still being worked on. Wonder what's up

RyanG

14-06-2008 07:39:55

maybe ship dept fouled up? lol

slambam

14-06-2008 11:06:51

Good question. Maybe they ordered more Lowes cards than they has for September so they sent the extra to early October, but everything else is September. Who knows with them...

sixoneoh

14-06-2008 15:03:48

I'm CTS for Oct 1st for the Lowes card and I'm a B.. . nothing yet

dubbin87

14-06-2008 17:05:55

Well something showed up for me today but the postman just left me the little yellow card to pick something up at the PO.

stagefrog2

14-06-2008 21:14:17

[quote67bdf569c8="freeipodplayer"][quote67bdf569c8="manOFice"][quote67bdf569c8="tiffrnwhitney"]I went shipped on 6/11/08 for my $500 Lowes card too. Confirmed to ship Oct., first initial T.[/quote67bdf569c8]

Congrats but Booooo, first letter G

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-25-07 126 PM][/quote67bdf569c8]

I am with you.[/quote67bdf569c8]
Remember that it's by website first, then first initial (so Zed from brandarama.com should be before Allison from yourtopbrands.com).

manOFice

14-06-2008 23:01:53

[quote2068efa70a="stagefrog2"][quote2068efa70a="freeipodplayer"][quote2068efa70a="manOFice"][quote2068efa70a="tiffrnwhitney"]I went shipped on 6/11/08 for my $500 Lowes card too. Confirmed to ship Oct., first initial T.[/quote2068efa70a]

Congrats but Booooo, first letter G

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-25-07 126 PM][/quote2068efa70a]

I am with you.[/quote2068efa70a]
Remember that it's by website first, then first initial (so Zed from brandarama.com should be before Allison from yourtopbrands.com).[/quote2068efa70a]

we're all talking brandarama lowes here....

freeipodplayer

15-06-2008 12:32:48

[quote1930b88722="manOFice"][quote1930b88722="stagefrog2"][quote1930b88722="freeipodplayer"][quote1930b88722="manOFice"][quote1930b88722="tiffrnwhitney"]I went shipped on 6/11/08 for my $500 Lowes card too. Confirmed to ship Oct., first initial T.[/quote1930b88722]

Congrats but Booooo, first letter G

$500 Lowe's Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-25-07 126 PM][/quote1930b88722]

I am with you.[/quote1930b88722]
Remember that it's by website first, then first initial (so Zed from brandarama.com should be before Allison from yourtopbrands.com).[/quote1930b88722]

we're all talking brandarama lowes here....[/quote1930b88722]

Had a lowes from Sept ship out last week, but my lowes from Oct on Brandarama has not shipped and I am J.

bgarmon

15-06-2008 15:50:32

I just decided to check and a $500 visa CTS Aug. 31 went shipped Jun 12th. I am assuming they are shipping the visa since I haven't checked in a while but would be satisfied with an Amex card. Still waiting on some other from Oct and Nov. so should be interesting to see if they are picking up the pace some.

dubbin87

16-06-2008 11:01:05

[quotecee4c6e5b0="dubbin87"]Well something showed up for me today but the postman just left me the little yellow card to pick something up at the PO.[/quotecee4c6e5b0]

Yeap, it was my BR Lowes card. 8)

ashilef

16-06-2008 12:26:54

[quoted1d5976e21="dubbin87"][quoted1d5976e21="dubbin87"]Well something showed up for me today but the postman just left me the little yellow card to pick something up at the PO.[/quoted1d5976e21]

Yeap, it was my BR Lowes card. 8)[/quoted1d5976e21]

Congrats, nice to know people's gifts are finally getting shipped.

mistertomlinson

16-06-2008 15:24:02

Well, I am encountering a different situation here. Been logging into my $2,500 TopShelfBrands account for a few days now and my account has magically disappeared. Gave it a few days thinking it would eventually get straightened out, but as of today, it is still the same. I can log in, but the account isn't shown. There is only a blank list. All of my other Brandarama accounts are fine. Any help would be appreciated.

bruman

16-06-2008 16:01:12

Mine's gone too.. I didn't even do any offers for it. Try calling them.

luumon

17-06-2008 01:29:09

[quoteb46511b7b6="mistertomlinson"]Well, I am encountering a different situation here. Been logging into my $2,500 TopShelfBrands account for a few days now and my account has magically disappeared. Gave it a few days thinking it would eventually get straightened out, but as of today, it is still the same. I can log in, but the account isn't shown. There is only a blank list. All of my other Brandarama accounts are fine. Any help would be appreciated.[/quoteb46511b7b6]

just email them. same thing happen to me. cs email say login in tomorrow and everything was back up.

oleus

17-06-2008 09:20:45

my last july-confirmed VISA just arrived - it's an AMEX.

RyanG

17-06-2008 12:07:54

asked trustedrewards today what initial they are on and she said to e-mail back thurs or fri. i'll post it up once I receive it; for $500 AMEX, CTS in Sept.

oleus

24-06-2008 08:32:56

any indication when they might move onto OCT '07 for non-Visa, non-Lowes cards?

manOFice

24-06-2008 08:39:46

[quote9522b9adad="oleus"]any indication when they might move onto OCT '07 for non-Visa, non-Lowes cards?[/quote9522b9adad]

probably soon

slambam

24-06-2008 10:28:06

On FYB, a person says there Oct Sears GC has shipped.

ILoveToys

24-06-2008 11:14:52

[quote8af6561f66="slambam"]On FYB, a person says there Oct Sears GC has shipped.[/quote8af6561f66]

A buddy of mine received his October Sears yesterday.

manOFice

24-06-2008 11:39:36

[quote34ba86528d="ILoveToys"][quote34ba86528d="slambam"]On FYB, a person says there Oct Sears GC has shipped.[/quote34ba86528d]

A buddy of mine received his October Sears yesterday.[/quote34ba86528d]

I want mine, I gotta buy a washer and dryer, lol

fatinma

08-07-2008 09:57:57

still waiting on my 37" plasma CTS november 7

tylerc

08-07-2008 10:14:07

I would imagine you'll be waiting another couple months; I have the $825 Nordstrom CTS November 5.

orangejuice

08-07-2008 10:31:21

I love how i never got a card shipped out 3 weeks ago...that tops the cake

tylerc

08-07-2008 10:39:02

Contact their support, they are very helpful.

dubbin87

08-07-2008 13:30:08

[quote911a3c338c="fatinma"]still waiting on my 37" plasma CTS november 7[/quote911a3c338c]

box86rowh is on the Sept shipping list and waiting.

oleus

14-07-2008 17:16:53

YTB/brandarama really seems stuck again....still hearing from them that they aren't close to moving onto October non-visas and still light years away from movement on visas. argh

connorBC20

17-07-2008 20:41:43

Anyone else have a problem with a CTS rewards parade amex disappearing. All my other gifts are fine but this one is mysteriously gone.
edit its back

slambam

17-07-2008 20:51:28

mine is still there.

Zags1199

21-07-2008 18:57:29

Anyone getting responses from Customer Service? They still haven't answered me from Friday.

zr2152

21-07-2008 20:03:15

[quote0c234ed327="Zags1199"]Anyone getting responses from Customer Service? They still haven't answered me from Friday.[/quote0c234ed327]

I actually got a response from them on Sat. when i sent them an email in the AM. They responded within 2 hrs.

lol

They said they were still oin July's visas and sept non visas.

I already got my $1000 Visa from august (in the form of 2 $500 AMEX cards) and I have heard of ppl getting their stuff from OCT.


It is weird.

manOFice

21-07-2008 20:59:10

I just submitted tickets to change my address as I"m moving in a couple days, hopefully they'll take care of it quickly.

Zach, I've also had them respond on a Saturday , lol

zr2152

21-07-2008 21:23:42

[quotec569013786="manOFice"]I just submitted tickets to change my address as I"m moving in a couple days, hopefully they'll take care of it quickly.

Zach, I've also had them respond on a Saturday , lol[/quotec569013786]

haha yeah i love it.

oleus

21-07-2008 22:26:43

so we're about to pass a year fulfillment period with july visas. they've been on july for over 6 months. cause for concern.

tylerc

21-07-2008 22:46:22

They have not been on July for 6 months.

RolltheStampede

22-07-2008 07:18:11

they are actually on august but a year is definately creeping up.

tylerc

22-07-2008 07:25:50

They need to do a massive overhaul and get the 2007 CTS gifts sent out at the VERY least.

beerman

22-07-2008 09:45:00

why? they plug along and send out gift like normal and thier profits remain the same. a backlog of gifts to them means nothing. If I were them I wouldn't take a huge hit on my profit to send out gifts....

sorry for being devil's advicate....just trying to keep it real....

dubbin87

22-07-2008 13:17:37

[quotea3cdf3e1c4="beerman1976"]why? they plug along and send out gift like normal and thier profits remain the same. a backlog of gifts to them means nothing. If I were them I wouldn't take a huge hit on my profit to send out gifts....

sorry for being devil's advicate....just trying to keep it real....[/quotea3cdf3e1c4]
Yeah but we all what happens when keeping it real goes wrong. lol

oleus

22-07-2008 14:28:35

[quote7b279cf253="beerman1976"]why? they plug along and send out gift like normal and thier profits remain the same. a backlog of gifts to them means nothing. If I were them I wouldn't take a huge hit on my profit to send out gifts....

sorry for being devil's advicate....just trying to keep it real....[/quote7b279cf253]

yeah except they're not plugging along and sending out gifts "like usual". like usual went from 6 months to a year VERY rapidly, with non-visas now experiencing the same gind-to-a-halt timeline.

i don't doubt that i'll get my giftcards...yet. but is this all troubling enough to make me think twice about doing their offers again? certainly.

maybe brandarama sees the current inflation situation as an opportunity to catch up - meanwhile we all get hosed when our $500 giftcards get us far less a year from now than they would now.

manOFice

22-07-2008 20:35:24

they must be doing something to their sites I can't login to my brandarama account, i'm sure it'll get fixed soon

SkatingCrippled

23-07-2008 15:08:44

[quote638eb4e656="dubbin87"][quote638eb4e656="beerman1976"]why? they plug along and send out gift like normal and thier profits remain the same. a backlog of gifts to them means nothing. If I were them I wouldn't take a huge hit on my profit to send out gifts....

sorry for being devil's advicate....just trying to keep it real....[/quote638eb4e656]
Yeah but we all what happens when keeping it real goes wrong. lol[/quote638eb4e656]

lol dave chapelle

manOFice

23-07-2008 17:15:25

lol, I couldn't login because they must have changed my address for me because with my new zip code, it lets me in.

ILoveToys

23-07-2008 19:00:28

[quoted19cfe07f4="manOFice"]lol, I couldn't login because they must have changed my address for me because with my new zip code, it lets me in.[/quoted19cfe07f4]

You're so smart! D

manOFice

24-07-2008 08:28:45

[quoteb3d32d139d="ILoveToys"][quoteb3d32d139d="manOFice"]lol, I couldn't login because they must have changed my address for me because with my new zip code, it lets me in.[/quoteb3d32d139d]

You're so smart! D[/quoteb3d32d139d]

That only worked for one of the sites so I called and talked to a helpful women there and she changed them all for me.

Of course I tried to get them to swap my gifts to amex's and she said they are doing that but their not on my month yet

tylerc

24-07-2008 08:42:09

When did they start shipping August Visas?

manOFice

24-07-2008 08:48:18

[quotedc233bbf10="tylerc"]When did they start shipping August Visas?[/quotedc233bbf10]

They've been on august for less than a month now I think?

tylerc

24-07-2008 08:56:55

My neighbor told me they've been on August for six months, lol

RolltheStampede

24-07-2008 12:47:21

no they were on july for 6 they just got on august. they may get September by january

fbskiracer

24-07-2008 14:44:38

[quote5cd8bccc38]
Dear Jane Doe,

Thank you for contacting us.

We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the August of 2007 mailing list for the visa gift cards and the September of 2007 mailing list for all other gifts.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Anne
YourTopBrands Member Support
[/quote5cd8bccc38]

That response came literally 2 minutes after I sent the inquiry. I'm betting its form based on the word "status" in emails to them

oleus

24-07-2008 15:10:17

i have a feeling october non-visas aren't going to happen for a long, long, long time. there's a LOT of us with octobers here, too.

fbskiracer

24-07-2008 15:33:38

[quote98d21fb995="oleus"]i have a feeling october non-visas aren't going to happen for a long, long, long time. there's a LOT of us with octobers here, too.[/quote98d21fb995]

I'm too lazy to pull the number of times I've had that response with one month lower earlier in it. I'm sure its in this thread somewhere.

baabaablacksheep

24-07-2008 16:13:15

well do as someone suggested on joshclark
FTC it up-- https//www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

mariners1999

24-07-2008 16:30:56

[quote5fde622ea2="baabaablacksheep"]well do as someone suggested on joshclark
FTC it up-- https//www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/[/quote5fde622ea2]

Yea lets get the Government into this!!! They never screw anything up! lol

I have seen how the FTC works. They do NOT help you get your gift. They just fine the company large amounts of money (MILLIONS) that the government gets and then the company declares bankruptcy and goes away!

So yea lets all FTC it up!!! evil

bruman

24-07-2008 16:41:04

Those joshclark people always want to screw things up for the rest of us. They were the reason i-deal doesn't allow conga lines now and are now more strict and now this.

zr2152

24-07-2008 17:43:35

[quote3cc8b42c00="bruman"]Those joshclark people always want to screw things up for the rest of us. They were the reason i-deal doesn't allow conga lines now and are now more strict and now this.[/quote3cc8b42c00]

Why can't people just chill out and wait for their gift. Those people need to relax.

And yes, they always screw things up for us.

cronerd

24-07-2008 20:57:37

horse

manOFice

25-07-2008 06:22:43

[quoted2a42712d8="zr2152"][quoted2a42712d8="bruman"]Those joshclark people always want to screw things up for the rest of us. They were the reason i-deal doesn't allow conga lines now and are now more strict and now this.[/quoted2a42712d8]

Why can't people just chill out and wait for their gift. Those people need to relax.

And yes, they always screw things up for us.[/quoted2a42712d8]

It was one person over there that said something about the ftc or some crap, everyone else made fun of the user. That place is just like any other forum now that the conga stopped.

RolltheStampede

25-07-2008 07:38:40

[quotea23f6c8066="bruman"]Those joshclark people always want to screw things up for the rest of us. They were the reason i-deal doesn't allow conga lines now and are now more strict and now this.[/quotea23f6c8066]

you make it seem like its not the same people on all the forums anyway. Most of the members there are members here, AT4F and FYB and what ever other forum, just cause they don't use the same user name across boards doesn't mean they aren't there.
That being said Josh Clark doesn't have a good track record with freebie site, but he isn't due for another tragedy for at least another 6 months.

wiebelhaus03

25-07-2008 08:22:24

joshclark is the one exception, many people over there are only members at joshclark. If you ever read anything there, you will realize that many people have no idea what they're doing and half of them don't even realize there is any other forum

zr2152

25-07-2008 22:01:46

[quoted0acad6ecc="wiebelhaus03"]joshclark is the one exception, many people over there are only members at joshclark. If you ever read anything there, you will realize that many people have no idea what they're doing and half of them don't even realize there is any other forum[/quoted0acad6ecc]

lolz yeah you saw my post over there. They are all trying to complain to the FTC.

haha i love it, and freebies.

RyanG

30-07-2008 15:14:43

any $500 AMEX still CTS from September?

freeipodplayer

30-07-2008 15:31:24

Got a $500 Tiffanys Gift Card shipped today.

bruman

30-07-2008 15:50:40

[quote248a064d34="freeipodplayer"]Got a $500 Tiffanys Gift Card shipped today.[/quote248a064d34]

September or October?

I'm still CTS on an October $825 Nordstrom.

beerman

30-07-2008 17:56:55

my 1K visa and $500 Tiffany's shipped today, CTS October First inital K

tylerc

30-07-2008 18:11:59

Good to see they are still working on October gifts, maybe they ARE getting shit done faster.

TravMan162

30-07-2008 18:14:07

sweet, i just mailed out my $500 Lowe's certs today, so by your analysis, i should have that in the mail by next week sometime right?

lol

manOFice

01-08-2008 12:10:04

I missed a certified piece of mail today, it was my best buy gift card ) My wife is going to pick it up

zr2152

01-08-2008 13:13:41

yayyyyy! That means mine probably came today too!

manOFice

01-08-2008 13:36:56

[quote0cd91bef0e="zr2152"]yayyyyy! That means mine probably came today too![/quote0cd91bef0e]

Course my wife is out buying a new washer and dryer with the giftcard, haha

oleus

01-08-2008 13:57:22

so has october actually started rolling out? cautiously optimistic....

manOFice

01-08-2008 14:22:15

[quote1432a4b0e6="oleus"]so has october actually started rolling out? cautiously optimistic....[/quote1432a4b0e6]

Obviously since I was CTS Oct 25th. But I have a few other gifts CTS in OCT which are still CTS

oleus

01-08-2008 14:23:46

[quote0bd29fcf64="manOFice"][quote0bd29fcf64="oleus"]so has october actually started rolling out? cautiously optimistic....[/quote0bd29fcf64]

Obviously since I was CTS Oct 25th. But I have a few other gifts CTS in OCT which are still CTS[/quote0bd29fcf64]

excellent. i have quite a bit CTS from october!

tylerc

01-08-2008 14:39:22

I want November gifts already.

RyanG

01-08-2008 15:40:11

I'd be happy if they'd send my damn Sept AMEX!

tylerc

01-08-2008 16:13:04

My friend is still waiting on that too, initial P.

orangejuice

01-08-2008 17:54:06

its gona be a good november for me, i have 7k in cards confirmed in that month

manOFice

01-08-2008 22:01:50

[quote9ad9846ea6="orangejuice"]its gona be a good november for me, i have 7k in cards confirmed in that month[/quote9ad9846ea6]

you're gonna get raped when it comes to taxes lol

beerman

02-08-2008 09:40:24

[quote040a4e67dc="freeipodplayer"]Got a $500 Tiffanys Gift Card shipped today.[/quote040a4e67dc]

Did you get yours? Mine didn't come with my two $500 AMEXs today, maybe monday.

freeipodplayer

02-08-2008 10:28:28

[quote2286bdc33a="beerman1976"][quote2286bdc33a="freeipodplayer"]Got a $500 Tiffanys Gift Card shipped today.[/quote2286bdc33a]

Did you get yours? Mine didn't come with my two $500 AMEXs today, maybe monday.[/quote2286bdc33a]

Not yet, but my mail doesnt come today, for another 90 minutes.

Swat1

03-08-2008 05:57:46

[quotec7aab78f79="beerman1976"][quotec7aab78f79="freeipodplayer"]Got a $500 Tiffanys Gift Card shipped today.[/quotec7aab78f79]

Did you get yours? Mine didn't come with my two $500 AMEXs today, maybe monday.[/quotec7aab78f79]


mine came and i'm wayy over here in california.

manOFice

04-08-2008 08:13:09

my 1k visa from yourtopbrands disappeared off my account page....

cannmj

04-08-2008 13:59:54

Has anyone had trouble getting through to their phone support? It goes through the opening message..I hit 1 and then it just hangs up.

manOFice

04-08-2008 14:01:53

[quote0d120a501e="cannmj"]Has anyone had trouble getting through to their phone support? It goes through the opening message..I hit 1 and then it just hangs up.[/quote0d120a501e]

That's all that happens for me today as well

beerman

06-08-2008 06:12:16

Is there anyone who showed shipped on July 30th and still not received the item? I'm still waiting on a tiffany's card.....i'm thinking it might have been lost....

RolltheStampede

06-08-2008 06:41:20

your mail carrier probably has your certified mail.

RyanG

06-08-2008 07:42:03

some mailmen fucking blow. they have it and if you're not home to sign, they're too lazy to leave the stupid slip that says for you to come pick it up etc.

freeipodplayer

06-08-2008 15:33:56

[quote411a6f2001="beerman1976"]Is there anyone who showed shipped on July 30th and still not received the item? I'm still waiting on a tiffany's card.....i'm thinking it might have been lost....[/quote411a6f2001]

ahhhh, glad I am not the only one.

Mine has yet to show up either.

RyanG

08-08-2008 17:42:13

finally, sept $500 amex shipped. wahoo

viperklt21

12-08-2008 09:33:19

I got this email today...


[quote63d3a95d51]We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the August mailing list for the visa gift cards and the October mailing list for all other gifts. You are on the October shipping list so it should be shipped shortly. We ship alphabetically according to first name.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support

[/quote63d3a95d51]

Nothing new but I just figured I would pass it along.

RyanG

12-08-2008 11:56:13

once again, they've been saying october for all other gifts, but there are still some people cts from sept amex.

orangejuice

12-08-2008 12:12:53

And once again, they re-shipped out my $500 sears card after it was returned by the post office because they misfiled. 5 days later, still haven't gotten the card again. Great stuff.

mariners1999

12-08-2008 14:39:51

[quote9c4f6da2da="orangejuice"]And once again, they re-shipped out my $500 sears card after it was returned by the post office because they misfiled. 5 days later, still haven't gotten the card again. Great stuff.[/quote9c4f6da2da]

Gotta love those great government employees! twisted

potsey2007

12-08-2008 14:53:57

Woot! Went shipped on my YTB $1,000 Visa CTS Sept. 7th!

freeipodplayer

12-08-2008 15:04:23

[quote0d7db00be0="orangejuice"]And once again, they re-shipped out my $500 sears card after it was returned by the post office because they misfiled. 5 days later, still haven't gotten the card again. Great stuff.[/quote0d7db00be0]

I know you. D

bradjohnson08

12-08-2008 17:08:31

sept 11th 1k visa.... YTB...... SHIPPPPPPPED!

orangejuice

12-08-2008 23:25:20

[quote1aacf7b7eb="freeipodplayer"][quote1aacf7b7eb="orangejuice"]And once again, they re-shipped out my $500 sears card after it was returned by the post office because they misfiled. 5 days later, still haven't gotten the card again. Great stuff.[/quote1aacf7b7eb]

I know you. D[/quote1aacf7b7eb]

What the hell does that mean? Oh, i got it now..lol!

freeipodplayer

13-08-2008 11:43:07

Got a $330 visa today.

CTS - January. LOL. I don't know how I got this one so fast.

dubbin87

13-08-2008 11:52:03

[quote032316cfed="freeipodplayer"]Got a $330 visa today.

CTS - January. LOL. I don't know how I got this one so fast.[/quote032316cfed]

oh shut up.

slambam

13-08-2008 16:03:26

they are all sorts of fiyucked up.

viperklt21

13-08-2008 20:55:54

so I wonder if we will get our 500 Amex with in the next few weeks. I bet them replaceing the visa with Amex has slowed us down.

orangejuice

13-08-2008 21:26:10

umm...it has sped them WAY up since they switched to amex.

viperklt21

14-08-2008 06:57:20

It has sped the visa up but has slowed the amex down.

oleus

14-08-2008 09:26:55

[quote764fcc0dca="viperklt21"]It has sped the visa up but has slowed the amex down.[/quote764fcc0dca]

they just confirmed with me that they are now well into October non-visas. i'm an "S" initial and one of my cards is an Amex, i'm still not holding my breath.

slambam

14-08-2008 10:40:09

Yea i definitely think is has speed the Visa's up a ton, but slowed AMEX's down a lot also. My initials are BH, I'll post when I see a change in status. I was hoping to have them by my birthday next week, but I don't know about that now...

bogey523

15-08-2008 08:09:50

Bad, me. I've been gone off this site for a few months. I still have a $500 visa (the hotel one on householdrewards, I believe left to get. Confirmed in November. Where are they at with regard to those. I never got an email switching me to an Amex. Any help would be appreciated. I'll probably give them a call or email to see what's up.

manOFice

15-08-2008 08:26:54

[quote0eaad8f97d="bogey523"]Bad, me. I've been gone off this site for a few months. I still have a $500 visa (the hotel one on householdrewards, I believe left to get. Confirmed in November. Where are they at with regard to those. I never got an email switching me to an Amex. Any help would be appreciated. I'll probably give them a call or email to see what's up.[/quote0eaad8f97d]

Oct

bogey523

15-08-2008 09:07:21

Just emailed and got response. Said they are sending checks to replace and that they are on the August list. So looks like I'm not going to expect anything before this Oct or November, maybe even Christmas. Icky.

freeipodplayer

15-08-2008 09:08:19

[quote96bf473a54="bogey523"]Just emailed and got response. Said they are sending checks to replace and that they are on the August list. So looks like I'm not going to expect anything before this Oct or November, maybe even Christmas. Icky.[/quote96bf473a54]

checks to replace what?

manOFice

15-08-2008 10:34:35

I hope mine comes today, i'll let u know if I got a check

Edit Mail came but no gift today, hopefully tomorrow

RolltheStampede

15-08-2008 13:41:18

[quotebbe67e1984="freeipodplayer"][quotebbe67e1984="bogey523"]Just emailed and got response. Said they are sending checks to replace and that they are on the August list. So looks like I'm not going to expect anything before this Oct or November, maybe even Christmas. Icky.[/quotebbe67e1984]

checks to replace what?[/quotebbe67e1984]

ditoo ?

debo012004

15-08-2008 14:14:34

[quote512123b9f8="RolltheStampede"][quote512123b9f8="freeipodplayer"][quote512123b9f8="bogey523"]Just emailed and got response. Said they are sending checks to replace and that they are on the August list. So looks like I'm not going to expect anything before this Oct or November, maybe even Christmas. Icky.[/quote512123b9f8]

checks to replace what?[/quote512123b9f8]

ditoo ?[/quote512123b9f8]

I think he is talking about the $500 Hotel Visas

RolltheStampede

15-08-2008 17:28:46

dman i got all 3 of those booked

bogey523

15-08-2008 20:11:28

yeah. they said that they are sending the checks in place of the $500 visa for the householdsavingsclub visa that was the hotel offer one. But it looks like they are still like 3-4 months away, although I like getting a check instead.

freeipodplayer

16-08-2008 11:02:32

[quote204681c8bf="RolltheStampede"]dman i got all 3 of those booked[/quote204681c8bf]

I got all 4 CTS. lol

orangejuice

16-08-2008 13:28:11

same ^. i think i got most of them already actually

KevinInTx

18-08-2008 08:41:02

$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Aug-15-08 356 PM]


CTS 9/20

Initial K

Only thing is that they sent it to my old address after they supposedly updated the shipping info with our new address. I forwarded my mail, will the certified mail also get forwarded????

Thanks,
Kevin

sha316

19-08-2008 06:21:12

Got my 2 amex $500 GC's today. This was yourtopbrands. My timelines

Completed website Aug, 2007
CTS Sept, 2007

Can I use these to get a money order?

Thanks.
Panda

dmorris68

19-08-2008 08:42:24

[quote8f0b8542ef="sha316"]Can I use these to get a money order?[/quote8f0b8542ef]
Almost certainly not, unless they have a PIN assigned and can be used as debit cards rather than credit cards.

No card that is processed as credit (through VISA/MC/AMEX) whether gift card, debit card, or credit card can be used to obtain cash or a cash instrument (check, M.O., etc.) without going through a cash advance transaction (which most gift cards don't support anyway). Cash advances require fees and higher APR's, and the cash amount available is usually limiited to a fraction of the card's value/credit line.

Depending on who you ask, there are several possible reasons, to include

li Easy "loan" access could get people in trouble financially.
li Could be used for nefarious purposes, such as money laundering or facilitating illegal purchases that you don't want a record of.
li Visa/MC/AMEX lose the very lucrative profits from gouging people with high cash advance fees/rates.

Call me a cynic, but I favor the last one. ;)

PIN debit transactions do not have the cash advance restrictions that credit transactions do. Some gift cards have PIN's, so if you can luck out and get one, then you're golden, but I think they still charged a transaction fee per withdrawal (albeit negligible when you talking about a high value gift card).

ashilef

19-08-2008 22:22:54

Haven't been to the boards in a while, it's nice to see people are receiving gifts...well I have these from Brandarama (listed below) and 2 visas cts from YTB I know the visas probably won't see the light of day until next year...or never if they are giving away amex cards instead...But for those gifts I have listed below...how much longer do you guys think I have?


MacBook 13-inch White 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Laptop
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Feb-29-08 400 PM]

16GB iPod touch
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Mar-3-08 1222 PM]

ILoveToys

20-08-2008 05:52:51

I'd figure 6 months from CTS minimum still, and if it comes sooner then it's a bonus )

Gman14

20-08-2008 10:40:16

I'm CTS (February) for a $500 Ticketmaster GC. I really hope I get it around January. If they send me the actual gift card and not money Ill prob put it up on eBay. I'll be in college so an extra 500 bucks would do wonders. (beer money! haha jk jk)

beerman

20-08-2008 12:50:30

Anyone getting responses from CS? Shot them a few emails and not getting a response. They still owe me a GC that was shipped on July 30th.

ashilef

20-08-2008 14:06:34

[quote27cb2b84cc="ILoveToys"]I'd figure 6 months from CTS minimum still, and if it comes sooner then it's a bonus )[/quote27cb2b84cc]

Well it's been 6 mos since I was cts for the macbook..so doesn't look like I'm getting THAT anytime soon. Well thanks anyway....I'm not even going to waste my time and send an email.

notepro

20-08-2008 18:39:42

[quotec7fb5419e7="beerman1976"]Anyone getting responses from CS? Shot them a few emails and not getting a response. They still owe me a GC that was shipped on July 30th.[/quotec7fb5419e7]

I sent them an email a few days ago and nothing. I tried calling their CS number today and nothing either. It either rang forever and then when I tried back later, it went to a busy signal instantly. I contacted them because I can't login to my account. Anyone else?

ashilef

20-08-2008 19:22:39

[quotea2a9b60665="notepro"][quotea2a9b60665="beerman1976"]Anyone getting responses from CS? Shot them a few emails and not getting a response. They still owe me a GC that was shipped on July 30th.[/quotea2a9b60665]

I sent them an email a few days ago and nothing. I tried calling their CS number today and nothing either. It either rang forever and then when I tried back later, it went to a busy signal instantly. I contacted them because I can't login to my account. Anyone else?[/quotea2a9b60665]

ok...so I lied and I DID send an email..basically the same cookie cutter response...

[quotea2a9b60665]Thank you for contacting us.

We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the August mailing list for the visa gift cards and the September/October mailing list for all other gifts.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,

Susan
YourTopBrands Member Support [/quotea2a9b60665]

lisighli (

beerman

20-08-2008 20:53:22

d@mn they must be ignoring me....they owe me $500!!!!!!

fanofpurple

22-08-2008 21:01:15

[quote5f728a9f58="ILoveToys"]I'd figure 6 months from CTS minimum still, and if it comes sooner then it's a bonus )[/quote5f728a9f58]

I wish I was as optimistic as you - I'm CTS on so much from them - the oldest being a $500 Macy's card from December!!! I'm thinkin more like 10 to 12 months - which is really pathetic. Have they ever been "caught up"?

wiebelhaus03

22-08-2008 22:31:12

yes in april/may of '07 and before it was a 3-4 month wait

Swat1

24-08-2008 07:06:02

I hope they get on to november =P

i just got my oct cts 1000 "visa"

orangejuice

24-08-2008 08:43:32

REALLY? what is your first letter?

slambam

24-08-2008 09:59:29

I have 4 Claim Forms to send in to YourTopBrands, and HouseholdSavingsClub. You can still send them all in the same envelope correct? I've done it before and it's been fine, I just don't know if they've changed anything.

connorBC20

24-08-2008 17:05:27

Does anyone know if you have to fill out a W9 for brandarama if you filled one already. I did one for the 1350 SA site earlier and now I just finished the Nordstrom's site.

zr2152

24-08-2008 17:48:48

what would it hurt?

Just do it.

Zags1199

24-08-2008 23:10:36

You have to fill one out for each one. They e-mailed me after they received my forms and told me I needed to send in a W-9 even though I already had for another site.

Swat1

26-08-2008 02:11:20

[quote9c216267d2="orangejuice"]REALLY? what is your first letter?[/quote9c216267d2]

me?


FC are my initials

orangejuice

26-08-2008 13:37:05

$1350 SA cards shipped! Confirmed Nov 16th. First initial R.

oleus

26-08-2008 13:46:41

anyone get an october AMEX yet?

slambam

26-08-2008 15:53:30

[quote294aa92dd6="oleus"]anyone get an october AMEX yet?[/quote294aa92dd6]

Nope....

sweeedfish

26-08-2008 16:08:27

manofice did

manOFice

26-08-2008 17:47:49

[quotee564411740="sweeedfish"]manofice did[/quotee564411740]

Nope, I'm still waiting on my 500 Amex from Oct 07

I DID receive a check from oct 07 in place of a 1k visa after being denied a my request for a check lol

Sad thing is... that went towards my wifes schooling... books and parking passes suck

sweeedfish

26-08-2008 18:26:51

[quoted5cba670d9="manOFice"][quoted5cba670d9="sweeedfish"]manofice did[/quoted5cba670d9]

Nope, I'm still waiting on my 500 Amex from Oct 07

I DID receive a check from oct 07 in place of a 1k visa after being denied a my request for a check lol
[bd5cba670d9]
Sad thing is... that went towards my wifes schooling... books and parking passes suck[/bd5cba670d9][/quoted5cba670d9]
Join the party. =\

Gman14

26-08-2008 19:22:40

yeah ManOFice... I have a giftcard coming in but i prob wont get it til mid next year at the looks of everything. I was going to be using it for the same thing... books and/or a parking pass for school. (a parking space at my college is $500 for one year. ughhh)

cronerd

26-08-2008 20:20:33

its $270 for me a yr lol (cal poly pomona)

oleus

28-08-2008 09:39:56

their auto-response seems to have digressed a bit - instead of saying they are on october for non-visas, they are instead on SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER for non visas.

Mbulelo

28-08-2008 15:22:02

$500 Amex (RewardsParade)
CTS October 23, 2007
[bda2abb39c5]Shipped [/bda2abb39c5]August 28, 2008

oleus

28-08-2008 15:35:48

[quotec9015cee42="Mbulelo"]$500 Amex (RewardsParade)
CTS October 23, 2007
[bc9015cee42]Shipped [/bc9015cee42]August 28, 2008[/quotec9015cee42]

what's your first name initial?

viperklt21

28-08-2008 15:41:51

mine is still not shipped

manOFice

28-08-2008 19:03:59

[quote063d776031="Mbulelo"]$500 Amex (RewardsParade)
CTS October 23, 2007
[b063d776031]Shipped [/b063d776031]August 28, 2008[/quote063d776031]

Mine is CTS oct 25, I can smell it. just ship already! hahaha

ILoveToys

28-08-2008 19:51:22

[quotea4032964e3="manOFice"][quotea4032964e3="Mbulelo"]$500 Amex (RewardsParade)
CTS October 23, 2007
[ba4032964e3]Shipped [/ba4032964e3]August 28, 2008[/quotea4032964e3]

Mine is CTS oct 25, I can smell it. just ship already! hahaha[/quotea4032964e3]

You've gotten your fair share lately....

slambam

28-08-2008 20:08:48

Err... my RewardsParade...

$500 American Express Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-9-07 949 AM]

Initials BH, I figured I'd be one of the first Octobers shipped (

Mbulelo

29-08-2008 05:58:04

[quoteefba661fcf="oleus"][quoteefba661fcf="Mbulelo"]$500 Amex (RewardsParade)
CTS October 23, 2007
[befba661fcf]Shipped [/befba661fcf]August 28, 2008[/quoteefba661fcf]

what's your first name initial?[/quoteefba661fcf]

L

manOFice

29-08-2008 08:29:34

[quote7e8a43d1e1="ILoveToys"][quote7e8a43d1e1="manOFice"][quote7e8a43d1e1="Mbulelo"]$500 Amex (RewardsParade)
CTS October 23, 2007
[b7e8a43d1e1]Shipped [/b7e8a43d1e1]August 28, 2008[/quote7e8a43d1e1]

Mine is CTS oct 25, I can smell it. just ship already! hahaha[/quote7e8a43d1e1]

You've gotten your fair share lately....[/quote7e8a43d1e1]

Yeah last year I jumped on these sites when people starting getings some gifts, i have a lot of them parked and just never got to them yet. Tons of new offers so I can probably do more now

orangejuice

03-09-2008 17:06:46

does BR care if you login and check your status from college? one of my buddies logged in to check his status after i checked mine about 3 months ago. think they will care?

beerman

03-09-2008 17:38:12

nope

Swat1

03-09-2008 17:38:24

[quoteb842d33cae="orangejuice"]does BR care if you login and check your status from college? one of my buddies logged in to check his status after i checked mine about 3 months ago. think they will care?[/quoteb842d33cae]


no

Mominct

03-09-2008 19:00:29

I read this from the beginning.. but am unsure. Can someone tell me what this is? or what the site addy is?

favored

04-09-2008 18:40:41

[quotee67c8c9baf="Mominct"]I read this from the beginning.. but am unsure. Can someone tell me what this is? or what the site addy is?[/quotee67c8c9baf]

This one's dead too.

ploppsdman

04-09-2008 23:59:37

I read this from the beginning.. but am unsure. Can someone tell me what this is? or what the site addy is?

No one ever wants to help the new folk .... brandarama, ideal, and netblue are the larger freebie sites ... as of now, ideal and netblue are you better bets for getting something, especially w/in 4 months .... whereas brandarama (if you look through the threads, you'll see something on yourtopbrands, householdsavingsclub .. those are brandarama) you might get something in a year. If you want current links for brandarama, I suggest you go to anything4free and look at their diy section.... http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=120642.

For example, here is a 4 offer amex ... http//www.brandarama.com/pub.php?sk=Mbuw6&sudid=325063

cronerd

05-09-2008 02:08:51

cuz newbs suk

dubbin87

05-09-2008 04:39:02

[quote1fb5fae347="cronerd"]cuz newbs suk[/quote1fb5fae347]
newbs are cool if they take the time to read and learn how stuff works, instead of coming and asking "uhhhh i want free stuff! where do I get it!"

beerman

08-09-2008 17:25:21

$1350 in Sports Authority Gift Cards
Shipped
[Sep-8-08 146 PM]

CTS sometime in October

cronerd

08-09-2008 18:23:58

congrats, this made me laugh http//www.generous-genie.com/?config=4356&src=WC-208393aaaCD11760150138

wiebelhaus03

08-09-2008 19:02:22

not bad for 12+2

tylerc

08-09-2008 19:04:52

$500 + 10 large pizzas? What does a pizza cost where you live?

ashilef

12-09-2008 12:44:11

[quote32e34bbf16="cronerd"]cuz newbs suk[/quote32e34bbf16]

why do you always say the dumbest shlit??? Didn't someone over @ Josh Clark tell you not to be an a$$ and talk smack about newbies...jerk! If you don't like newbie questions well then here's an idea...DON'T READ IT!!! roll

cronerd

12-09-2008 13:17:31

dont flame me bro!

Bballqt3224

13-09-2008 23:40:55

[/size4997317424]
www.cheap-electronix.com

cheap ipods and electronics

just sign up for free its quick and easy to ebay through

www.cheap-electronix.com

then start saving on great items!

mistertomlinson

14-09-2008 15:49:58

[quotef0d2a87df6="Bballqt3224"][/sizef0d2a87df6]
www.cheap-electronix.com

cheap ipods and electronics

just sign up for free its quick and easy to ebay through

www.cheap-electronix.com

then start saving on great items![/quotef0d2a87df6]

I hope your mom develops the flu!

cronerd

14-09-2008 16:37:47

[quote41e605ba40="Bballqt3224"][/size41e605ba40]


I hope your mom develops the flu![/quote41e605ba40]
haha

SkatingCrippled

14-09-2008 19:22:21

[quote98febe3997="Bballqt3224"][/size98febe3997]
www.cheap-electronix.com

cheap ipods and electronics

just sign up for free its quick and easy to ebay through

www.cheap-electronix.com

then start saving on great items![/quote98febe3997]

Cheap Ipods and electronics!?!?!?

I'm in.

Zags1199

15-09-2008 10:35:17

http//www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/NO_WAI_001.jpg[" alt=""/imgcc6bcccbc4]

tylerc

15-09-2008 10:54:08

Image doesn't work.

potsey2007

15-09-2008 11:09:48

does for me

bayarea05

16-09-2008 00:13:24

[quote804b3d6290="Mominct"]

For example, here is a 4 offer amex ... http//www.brandarama.com/pub.php?sk=Mbuw6&sudid=325063[/quote804b3d6290]

thanks for the link

karma for you..


anyone has good links to share? or just PM me plz. ) thanks

ploppsdman

16-09-2008 10:46:20

I would NOT do any offers right now ... apparently the last week, people have had trouble crediting ....

beerman

16-09-2008 10:52:56

wonder who is going to be the first one to panic and say brandarama is going out of business and just trying to screw everyone....

zr2152

16-09-2008 10:54:08

i bet you can find them freaking out on joshclark...

cronerd

16-09-2008 11:34:01

WTF this is what pisses me off! some noob from joshclark posted
[quote5e6ce773a1]Hey guys, I was confirmed for $500 Visa in early 08. I called about a month ago and asked if they could substitute the card since they were so delayed. She said she doubted they could but she would put my request down. Anyway, today I got a $500 check from Brandarama. I don't know if they are doing this across the board or just cause I asked. But thought people would like to know.[/quote5e6ce773a1] HOW THE Flilili DID HE GET IT FROM 08!

zr2152

16-09-2008 12:09:55

Holy Hell...lol

wiebelhaus03

16-09-2008 12:12:01

i've been asking about my oct. 25th confirmed 1k visa for about 3 months now lol....still just CTS

manOFice

16-09-2008 12:44:59

[quotedcd15770d0="cronerd"]WTF this is what pisses me off! some noob from joshclark posted
[quotedcd15770d0]Hey guys, I was confirmed for $500 Visa in early 08. I called about a month ago and asked if they could substitute the card since they were so delayed. She said she doubted they could but she would put my request down. Anyway, today I got a $500 check from Brandarama. I don't know if they are doing this across the board or just cause I asked. But thought people would like to know.[/quotedcd15770d0] HOW THE Flilili DID HE GET IT FROM 08![/quotedcd15770d0]

Well that "noob" just owned you didn't he. I got the same thing, I got a 1k check instead of a giftcard. I was even denied the check but still got it... It can't hurt to just call and ask them to please put the request in to the shipping department and request a check.. say you're more than willing to gladly accept a check instead. Even if they reject your request, you still might get it like me.

ILoveToys

16-09-2008 13:23:48

So do different ppl answer the phone and answer emails?

manOFice

16-09-2008 13:25:41

[quote42347037a3="ILoveToys"]So do different ppl answer the phone and answer emails?[/quote42347037a3]

I believe so yes. Where I think I won was through email. They seem to have my "contacts"

DRay9911

16-09-2008 13:31:10

what cronerd is talking about is the guy who posted to JC was confirmed earlier this year and already received a check, not that he received a check instead of a gift card.

-dan



[quote27ba7b2e6f="manOFice"][quote27ba7b2e6f="cronerd"]WTF this is what pisses me off! some noob from joshclark posted
[quote27ba7b2e6f]Hey guys, I was confirmed for $500 Visa in early 08. I called about a month ago and asked if they could substitute the card since they were so delayed. She said she doubted they could but she would put my request down. Anyway, today I got a $500 check from Brandarama. I don't know if they are doing this across the board or just cause I asked. But thought people would like to know.[/quote27ba7b2e6f] HOW THE Flilili DID HE GET IT FROM 08![/quote27ba7b2e6f]

Well that "noob" just owned you didn't he. I got the same thing, I got a 1k check instead of a giftcard. I was even denied the check but still got it... It can't hurt to just call and ask them to please put the request in to the shipping department and request a check.. say you're more than willing to gladly accept a check instead. Even if they reject your request, you still might get it like me.[/quote27ba7b2e6f]

cronerd

16-09-2008 13:58:57

both, I cant believe he got a gift that was CTS in 2008 AND I cant believe he got it replaced by a check! I just sent and email asking for replacement and of course they sent me the nice "sorry, were not doing that at this time" response, but like manOFice said , it doesnt hurt to try

manOFice

16-09-2008 14:04:03

[quote2f47e165a4="cronerd"]both, I cant believe he got a gift that was CTS in 2008 AND I cant believe he got it replaced by a check! I just sent and email asking for replacement and of course they sent me the nice "sorry, were not doing that at this time" response, but like manOFice said , it doesnt hurt to try[/quote2f47e165a4]

If you fail in email, give them a call early tomorrow morning and see where you get

cronerd

16-09-2008 14:33:52

alrite will do, and like cubsfan said on A4F, talk to michelle because I guess shes one of the better CSR's

Mbulelo

17-09-2008 01:04:41

[quote58e41a53f8="wiebelhaus03"]i've been asking about my oct. 25th confirmed 1k visa for about 3 months now lol....still just CTS[/quote58e41a53f8]
My friend is CTS on Oct 1 but on YourTopBrands but nothing yet.

beerman

18-09-2008 06:46:15

a friend of mine talked to brandarama, she keep prodding them about thier shipment schedule. CS said they are working to get all October gifts out by the end of the year and if your November you won't be getting anything this year....I told her I really hope she is wrong.....

I'm sure there are exceptions as we all have seen, but just another set of bad news for us getting paid anytime soon.....

orangejuice

18-09-2008 07:53:10

are u serious...

oleus

18-09-2008 07:57:21

and i thought i was close to getting my october non-visas. "by the end of the year" doesn't sound too promising....argh

beerman

18-09-2008 09:16:24

[quotea928ca0047="orangejuice"]are u serious...[/quotea928ca0047]

yeah, that is what my friend said, she is a close friend of mine so I have no reason to doubt her, but remember brandarama can say whatever they want, no one pushing them to get get gifts out.....theyare in thier own little world.

RolltheStampede

18-09-2008 10:10:01

the have shipped some november gifts.

ashilef

18-09-2008 21:32:35

MacBook 13-inch White 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Laptop
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Feb-29-08 400 PM]

Anybody think I'll actually get this by the time they send it, or do you think it will be something better?

I'm waiting on an ipod touch too...I'm tempted to ask for the monetary value of these gifts, but not sure if I should because they may send me less then what they are worth...what would you guys do?

cronerd

18-09-2008 22:24:12

[quote89c3b201f9="ashilef"]MacBook 13-inch White 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Laptop
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Feb-29-08 400 PM]

Anybody think I'll actually get this by the time they send it, or do you think it will be something better?

I'm waiting on an iPod touch too...I'm tempted to ask for the monetary value of these gifts, but not sure if I should because they may send me less then what they are worth...what would you guys do?[/quote89c3b201f9]
apple is announcing the new macbooks in october so hopefully you'll get the new one

kobugiman

20-09-2008 20:41:16

i had two gifts disappear off of my member page at yourtopbrands...one for 100 visa and another 1000 visa. anyone else experience this???? did you get it resolved at all??

ploppsdman

20-09-2008 20:45:42

I wouldnt worry about it until next week ... sometimes brandarama's pages go screwy .... give it a few days and if it doesnt fix itself .. call.

tylerc

21-09-2008 09:25:12

I put in a request for a check instead of the $825 Nordstrom (CTS 11/5/07) on Thursday, they said the requests go into the shipping department Friday. Guess I'll see what happens.

oleus

21-09-2008 09:54:10

[quote73cabd9fb7="tylerc"]I put in a request for a check instead of the $825 Nordstrom (CTS 11/5/07) on Thursday, they said the requests go into the shipping department Friday. Guess I'll see what happens.[/quote73cabd9fb7]

i've asked several times for checks instead of 2 10/07 CTS non-visas and each time they categorically deny the request.

ploppsdman

21-09-2008 13:25:48

They said they would put in a request to expedite a gift card ... not sure what the hell thats going to mean.

mookieb2

21-09-2008 16:41:36

I can't get them to budge on anything. Good job to you guys though.

I'm gonna keep trying

ploppsdman

21-09-2008 18:16:20

I think they just said it to shut me up ... but we'll see.

tylerc

21-09-2008 19:26:37

I think that's what they said, but the lady seemed really helpful in explaining how the request works so maybe I'll get it )

cronerd

21-09-2008 21:28:46

you would think it would be easier to write $500 checks then to deal with their so "visa distributers"

terryishere

21-09-2008 22:41:07

amen i agree

RyanG

22-09-2008 06:18:17

yeah, but why do that when they can blame someone else and earn more interest off our $$

dmorris68

22-09-2008 08:37:18

Don't know about Brandaram, but I believe it's possible for bulk-purchasers of gift cards to get a price break. If you save a couple bucks per card (off of its face value) and ship a million or so, that's some considerable savings over writing checks. shrug

potsey2007

22-09-2008 09:10:23

you think they ship that many though?

cronerd

22-09-2008 12:33:12

your prob. rite dmorris

Swat1

22-09-2008 22:22:38

they need to start shipping out november cts....and i dont mean a little randomly..but actually start on the list. my last gifts from BR are all NoV.

slambam

23-09-2008 09:40:40

They need to start sending anything again. The last 2-3 weeks the only things I heard about being sent were the $2500 College checks. They were moving along pretty good for a while, but not anymore.

beerman

23-09-2008 09:52:40

they send out more than just what people post here slam.....I still stand by my non-confirmed brandarama shipping timeframe of ~10th of each month....

dmorris68

23-09-2008 11:20:49

[quote6dd7df16cc="potsey2007"]you think they ship that many though?[/quote6dd7df16cc]
Maybe not, but then again most of us grossly underestimate the amount of business these companies do. These are multi-billion dollar companies we're talking about in many cases. I'm pretty sure they ship in the tens and likely hundreds of thousands, if not approaching a million. Savings is savings, and if you can save even $200K a year by shipping GC's instead of writing checks, combined with the earnings from holding on to that money for longer periods of time in order to get the GC's, then almost any company would do it. They aren't concerned about our perception of customer service, because as we keep reminding people -- we aren't their customers, the advertisers are.

slambam

23-09-2008 16:27:44

Likely hundreds of thousands? I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. I'd be surprised if its more than 30,000 gifts a year. Thats ~2500 a month. I think people are too skeptical when it comes to these types of things. Yes, I know the traffic they get every month. But, still a view, is a lot different than completing a site. And I'm well aware that there are more people doing the sites than just us. But do you realize how many people post here, A4f and FYB? If they're sending gifts, I would think at least one of the many people on these sites, especially since is seems that so many are CTS October, would receive something.

dmorris68

23-09-2008 17:52:51

I don't think any of these companies would reveal the specific numbers as to how much they ship. Most are subsidiary holdings of parent conglomerates who release total numbers per SEC or shareholder reporting requirements but probably not enough to discern that level of detail in any particular subsidiary. Speaking of, I didn't say, or mean to say, they shipped hundreds of thousands [i8ac4571ec5]per year,[/i8ac4571ec5] but who knows... they might. At the conglomerate level it certainly wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination.

BTW not every corporate purchasing decision and ROI is based on a single annual return, many are annualized over a period of years. So I could easily see them committing to buy X million dollars in gift cards over, say, 5 years, and getting a price break in the neighborhoods of hundreds of thousands or even into the millions of dollars. It's pure speculation of course, but these are some huge companies we're talking about.

nwong82

23-09-2008 19:59:50

$500 American Express Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-9-07 1201 PM]


approaching one year. Anyone else waiting this long??? I emailed them asking for replacement checks but no go

terryishere

23-09-2008 20:36:55

$500 Visa Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Jan-22-08 235 PM]

i also asked for a replacement check and mine was a no go

slambam

23-09-2008 20:37:08

$500 American Express Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Oct-9-07 949 AM]

I got ya by 132 minutes...

bruman

23-09-2008 21:57:42

Still waiting on my nordstrom card, Oct. 11th.

woohoo72

23-09-2008 22:33:33

cts octr 12 first initial e, rewards parade, nothing, keep getting the same canned responses. my august visa was shipped last month, it was cts aug 07

bruman

24-09-2008 13:19:20

$825 Nordstrom Gift Card
Shipped
[Sep-24-08 243 PM]

Hell yeah )

Swat1

24-09-2008 13:21:36

Sooooo....how are tehy goign to catch up if they are taking longer than a month to ship out each batch even to this day? I'm banking that they are goign to file for bankruptcy when it gets out of hand....and then they do consulting for another small group of people to do the same...rinse and repeat.

Swat1

24-09-2008 13:22:19

[quote337846d4c8="bruman"]$825 Nordstrom Gift Card
Shipped
[Sep-24-08 243 PM]

Hell yeah )[/quote337846d4c8]


niceeee.....

bruman

24-09-2008 13:30:58

Oh damn.... checked another one of my status

$500 Best Buy Gift Card
Shipped
[Sep-24-08 246 PM]

Tis a good day )

I was November CTS for this one.

tylerc

24-09-2008 13:54:09

Good to see more November gifts are getting shipped, hoping to get my $825 Nordstrom's card soon too ) congrats bruman.

dubbin87

24-09-2008 16:31:59

[quotee8f04ae215="bruman"]Oh damn.... checked another one of my status

$500 Best Buy Gift Card
Shipped
[Sep-24-08 246 PM]

Tis a good day )

I was November CTS for this one.[/quotee8f04ae215]i'm cts nov 29th for that one, nothing yet. ?

ILoveToys

25-09-2008 14:29:26

I just want to get my $1000 visa that i was cts for nearly a year ago (

ploppsdman

25-09-2008 18:10:32

Im not touching this site anymore. I've got some CTS stuff at the top of 08, I do not expect to get any of it.

tylerc

25-09-2008 20:02:36

[quoteacc2011979="ploppsdman"]Im not touching this site anymore. I've got some CTS stuff at the top of 08, I do not expect to get any of it.[/quoteacc2011979]

Why? Active Response Group (company that owns Brandarama/YTB/etc) is a $50 million revenue company, and they're still shipping gifts, just slowly.

edgespeeder04

25-09-2008 20:22:33

anyone still doing any more sites? I just finished the 4 offer toshiba but none of my offers have credited yet, hopefully by tomorrow.

I also want to do the plasma site and the $2500 check which I havent been able to finish. Anyone know how much they are paying for the plasma and toshiba.

Also, which other ones do you all recommend doing? I also plan on doing the other 3 $500 gf and credit cards ones i have left, as well as $825 nordstorm but dont know what else is worth doing. Which grill is the one that pays more?

Thanks in advance. -)

I have already received my $1000 visa and sports authority cards so they are working on this fast.

slambam

25-09-2008 20:56:52

I did 4 gifts in early September. Not sure why, I probably won't get it til 2012....

orangejuice

25-09-2008 21:21:13

^ same here i just did 4 too. probably wont seem til xmas next year. sucks. i hope they just pay off everyone at once someday with a lump check.

SkatingCrippled

26-09-2008 06:34:50

[quote1a3858cf5f="edgespeeder04"]anyone still doing any more sites? I just finished the 4 offer toshiba but none of my offers have credited yet, hopefully by tomorrow.

I also want to do the plasma site and the $2500 check which I havent been able to finish. Anyone know how much they are paying for the plasma and toshiba.

Also, which other ones do you all recommend doing? I also plan on doing the other 3 $500 gf and credit cards ones i have left, as well as $825 nordstorm but dont know what else is worth doing. Which grill is the one that pays more?

Thanks in advance. -)

I have already received my $1000 visa and sports authority cards so they are working on this fast.[/quote1a3858cf5f]
The Toshiba Tecra pays aprox. $550 I believe. I finished that one a few months ago and requested a check.

tylerc

26-09-2008 09:41:24

When were you CTS and when did you get a check?

cronerd

26-09-2008 11:39:21

2 things, first for the toshiba they ARE ONLY giving checks, i called, secondly did u say you already got the check??

SkatingCrippled

26-09-2008 12:44:05

[quote5214241d17="cronerd"]2 things, first for the toshiba they ARE ONLY giving checks, i called, secondly did u say you already got the check??[/quote5214241d17]

No I did not get the check already, I just requested it when I went CTS.

Went CTS July 21st

edgespeeder04

27-09-2008 21:22:58

ah okay so are you sure its for that amount? thought I heard about it being for $1100

orangejuice

27-09-2008 21:41:18

if you went CTS jul of 08, you wont see that until jul of 09 or maybe xmas 09

slambam

27-09-2008 22:26:31

[quotedf5d609279="edgespeeder04"]ah okay so are you sure its for that amount? thought I heard about it being for $1100[/quotedf5d609279]

I could be wrong but I think there is someone who got $1100, but that was because he signed up last August or something, when the computer was actually worth something. He didn't give anybody the link until recently, so if you signed up after he gave the link the value is diminished, so your check is too.

cronerd

27-09-2008 22:52:00

slambams rite, cause when we talked about this last month brandarama was saying it was worth $550

tylerc

28-09-2008 16:24:07

$550 is $550.

ILoveToys

28-09-2008 16:31:55

I got a big no on a check for it today.

tylerc

28-09-2008 16:35:21

When were you CTS?

ILoveToys

28-09-2008 17:01:48

In July.

cronerd

28-09-2008 17:08:43

wait so what did u get?

SkatingCrippled

28-09-2008 17:15:47

[quote91b9fd444e="cronerd"]wait so what did u get?[/quote91b9fd444e]
I don't think he got the laptop yet; he's referring to Brandarama denying him the option to get a check rather than the laptop.

ILoveToys

28-09-2008 17:53:33

[quote7ba2adf9f4="SkatingCrippled"][quote7ba2adf9f4="cronerd"]wait so what did u get?[/quote7ba2adf9f4]
I don't think he got the laptop yet; he's referring to Brandarama denying him the option to get a check rather than the laptop.[/quote7ba2adf9f4]

correct

cronerd

28-09-2008 19:42:41

well I sent an email and called and that was last month and both times they said a check, ill try to find the email when I get a chance

oleus

07-10-2008 07:02:36

anyone received any Oct 07-CTS non Visas lately? for months they've said they're working on it and i think some people here have received November cards....

tylerc

07-10-2008 07:15:10

If you look at traffic charts for Brandarama, once we get through October lists we should see an increase in gifts.

http//www.quantcast.com/profile/trafficGraph?wunit=wd%3Acom.brandarama&drg=US&dty=pp&dtr=dm&gl=all&gt=large[/quote]

viperklt21

07-10-2008 13:15:15

[quote32b7269f91="tylerc"]If you look at traffic charts for Brandarama, once we get through October lists we should see an increase in gifts.

http//www.quantcast.com/profile/trafficGraph?wunit=wd%3Acom.brandarama&drg=US&dty=pp&dtr=dm&gl=all&gt=large[/quote32b7269f91][/quote]

It looks like to me that the traffic increases so it will get slower. Though nothing like July. It looks like to me Oct is the lowest month, or at least one of the lowest.

wiebelhaus03

07-10-2008 14:02:36

but people who joined in july are confirmed in sept-oct for the most part

oleus

07-10-2008 14:12:34

yep, and october '07 fulfillments seem like they are back in a standstill.

huckfinn16

07-10-2008 20:29:48

my g/f got her 500 amex the other day. We were both cts in October 07, but i'm still waiting on mine ?

terryishere

07-10-2008 20:33:12

i sure wish they would come on and send my 500 visa confirmned to ship in january 07

Swat1

17-10-2008 18:28:15

i got my OCT cts in august.....and they are STILL on OCT? wow. how long until they die? They can't possibly have wait times up to 2 years, can they?

oleus

18-10-2008 01:16:32

[quote2ae9be4350="Swat1"]i got my OCT cts in august.....and they are STILL on OCT? wow. how long until they die? They can't possibly have wait times up to 2 years, can they?[/quote2ae9be4350]

i have a Circuit City gc CTS from oct 07 - i have serious doubts as to whether Circuit city will even be in business by the time i get the gc's! they are in serious financial trouble.

makes me wonder

tylerc

18-10-2008 08:22:01

They'll probably give you a check or Visa gift card.

oleus

21-10-2008 09:24:13

i think that at least for my CIrcuit city giftcard (cts oct 07) they should agree to give me a check given the high chances that CC will be going belly up soon. but they are rejecting any request for a check.

dubbin87

21-10-2008 09:31:10

Circuit City isn't going belly up, they are a multi-million dollar company, just last year I have recieved merchandise from them. All you people need to calm down, they are going to pull through.






roll





lol

oleus

21-10-2008 10:40:05

[quotec9e49ca78d="dubbin87"]Circuit City isn't going belly up, they are a multi-million dollar company, just last year I have recieved merchandise from them. All you people need to calm down, they are going to pull through.






roll





lol[/quotec9e49ca78d]

actually i am not being ana alarmist - they really are in huge financial trouble (Circuit City). I've read a lot of articles about how they might be on the verge of shutting their doors soon unless they turn things around bigtime.

manOFice

21-10-2008 12:13:06

I agree, I'm willing to bet CC goes under soon...

ploppsdman

21-10-2008 12:13:29

Id guess right after christmas...

imapepper

21-10-2008 12:58:27

Yeah they are on the list of companies headed for bankruptcy this year

debo012004

21-10-2008 13:25:08

He's just making fun of the fact that people have been saying the same thing about brandarama, although we wouldn't know their financial status since their not public.

oleus

21-10-2008 20:29:16

hehe i get it now, i am slow. i thought the response seemed familiar!

seriously though, with all that's going on with the economy and lots of businesses going under, now i don't think it's paranoid for ANYONE to worry about the prospect of never receiving their cards, at least within a 2 year window.

oleus

26-10-2008 11:24:47

so, has anyone here received anything from october 07 from them recently? or anything at all?

tylerc

26-10-2008 13:06:42

If you read you would know. I received my $825 Nordstrom's card a couple weeks ago, CTS 11/5/07.

orangejuice

26-10-2008 14:17:19

yes but in the last couple weeks nothing has come

mookieb2

26-10-2008 18:22:16

I got a check for $1,000 a week ago. (Posted in the 4 offer site thread)

CTS in Nov. 05 2007

manOFice

27-10-2008 11:42:41

I'm just waiting on a 500 AMEX cts on oct 25th

RyanG

27-10-2008 17:08:00

[quoted0ab76325e="manOFice"]I'm just waiting on a 500 AMEX cts on oct 25th[/quoted0ab76325e]

ditto

oleus

27-10-2008 17:35:46

[quote5e59c11afc="RyanG"][quote5e59c11afc="manOFice"]I'm just waiting on a 500 AMEX cts on oct 25th[/quote5e59c11afc]

ditto[/quote5e59c11afc]

dittox2

if anyone gets anything from october, please post here, i am fearing a complete halt of gift fulfillments.

Swat1

27-10-2008 20:58:24

[quoteb4b983a83b="tylerc"]If you read you would know. I received my $825 Nordstrom's card a couple weeks ago, CTS 11/5/07.[/quoteb4b983a83b]

where is mine???

$825 Nordstrom Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Nov-5-07 357 PM]


initials are fc

tylerc

28-10-2008 07:19:21

Couldn't tell you, I just got it in the mail. I don't think their list really has an order to it.

nwong82

28-10-2008 12:26:30

still waiting for my Trustedrewards AMEX CTS 10-9-07 and a PollPrizeUSA VISA CTS 11-5-07.

oleus

03-11-2008 08:19:56

well it's happening - by the looks of the list almost every single Circuit City in my area will be closing tomorrow. i won't even get my giftcard in time to take advantage of the stores having closeouts sales starting Wednesday. I have been bugging YTB about this possibility for months and they wouldn't even expedite the card or substitute a check. thanks YTB, you just scammed me out of $1000.

beerman

03-11-2008 08:23:34

there is alway circuitcity.com!

oleus

03-11-2008 08:51:10

but aren't these "in store only" giftcards?

mookieb2

03-11-2008 09:05:00

They're going to take care of you. This company, while slow, has never been a scamming company or one that treats people badly.

Now, that can always change, but history would say that you will be taken care of.

oleus

03-11-2008 09:22:45

[quote1395df638b="mookieb2"]They're going to take care of you. This company, while slow, has never been a scamming company or one that treats people badly.

Now, that can always change, but history would say that you will be taken care of.[/quote1395df638b]

i have received many cards from them, i'm just a little miffed that i had been bringing this very issue up with them for months with nothing but the canned response that followed.

anyway, I just got off the phone with them and they have NO idea what their own policy is regarding giftcards promised/ordered from a company that is going out of business. Even though CC isn't 100% going out of business, it does not look good longterm and LONGterm is the key here given how long YTB has taken with October 07 cards.

oleus

10-11-2008 07:35:34

anyone else having problem with their gift status page? on YTB, my two October 07 cards have now vanished!

beerman

10-11-2008 07:37:50

yes, topshelfbrands and rewardsparade are down for me.

supersponger1979

10-11-2008 07:56:03

One of mine that has disappeared since last year actually showed up!!

oleus

10-11-2008 08:17:11

[quotead50031e40="supersponger1979"]One of mine that has disappeared since last year actually showed up!![/quotead50031e40]

the only ones that disappeared for me were cards form Oct 07. Everything CTS before and after are still there. I hope they haven't found a good way of catching up by just making October disappear!

bruman

10-11-2008 08:32:54

So is it just October cards that vanished?

huckfinn16

10-11-2008 08:34:51

Yeah, all my October cards vanished

manOFice

10-11-2008 08:37:45

[quotecb973a199f="bruman"]So is it just October cards that vanished?[/quotecb973a199f]

I only have one more gift CTS from october, the rest are june 08 and only my one october card keeps getting f'ed up

oleus

10-11-2008 08:41:18

and Circuit City just filed for bankruptcy this morning....doesn't bode well for those of us whose October 07 cards included CC cards. argh!!

manOFice

10-11-2008 10:34:51

[quote93b155d6b3="oleus"]and Circuit City just filed for bankruptcy this morning....doesn't bode well for those of us whose October 07 cards included CC cards. argh!![/quote93b155d6b3]

it's just chapter 11 but still not good

oleus

10-11-2008 10:42:51

if anyone sees their Oct 07 cards show back up on the status page, please post it here.

beerman

10-11-2008 11:36:45

both mine and my friends showed back up....everyone take a deep breath and relax, they will fix it.

manOFice

10-11-2008 11:45:35

[quoteaec2cc32a0="beerman1976"]both mine and my friends showed back up....everyone take a deep breath and relax, they will fix it.[/quoteaec2cc32a0]

i'm not freaking out, it's just annoying.

oleus

10-11-2008 11:46:04

[quote0f13a7fa1b="beerman1976"]both mine and my friends showed back up....everyone take a deep breath and relax, they will fix it.[/quote0f13a7fa1b]

hmmmm mine are still missing. hopefully this is resolved soon. i'd love to get the cards soon but that would be "asking too much".

tylerc

10-11-2008 12:48:11

When were you CTS?

viperklt21

10-11-2008 12:49:21

mine is back

oleus

10-11-2008 13:05:52

[quote2f911b5f58="tylerc"]When were you CTS?[/quote2f911b5f58]

CTS 10/3 for an Amex and a Cicruit City. Mine are back on the status page, at least.

fatinma

11-11-2008 06:43:07

cts nov '07 for a 37" plasma and my status page is gone. (

manOFice

11-11-2008 07:19:33

[quote495d3e7c2a="fatinma"]cts nov '07 for a 37" plasma and my status page is gone. ([/quote495d3e7c2a]

Email them

orangejuice

11-11-2008 07:31:18

this is bs...over a month and nothing has been shipped. i have to wonder if we are screwed

oleus

11-11-2008 07:35:55

[quotef44e7854b9="orangejuice"]this is bs...over a month and nothing has been shipped. i have to wonder if we are screwed[/quotef44e7854b9]

yeah, i'd like to know if we can figure out who around here actually recently received ANYTHING....scary

fatinma

11-11-2008 07:59:27

[quote5f49ef5c2c="manOFice"][quote5f49ef5c2c="fatinma"]cts nov '07 for a 37" plasma and my status page is gone. ([/quote5f49ef5c2c]

Email them[/quote5f49ef5c2c]

Good idea, I didn't think of that.

I did email them, and no response since Friday.

box86rowh

11-11-2008 10:49:17

[quote6ed23c62ca="fatinma"][quote6ed23c62ca="manOFice"][quote6ed23c62ca="fatinma"]cts nov '07 for a 37" plasma and my status page is gone. ([/quote6ed23c62ca]

Email them[/quote6ed23c62ca]

Good idea, I didn't think of that.

I did email them, and no response since Friday.[/quote6ed23c62ca]

Call them.... 1-877-312-7263

ploppsdman

11-11-2008 11:20:37

Guessing, I'd say Brandarama delayed gifts for so long b/c they were investing their advertising dollars ... of course, most of us are aware what has happened to stock prices ... so ...

tylerc

11-11-2008 11:59:56

They just take forever to send stuff out. They get stuff sent out, people post when they receive it, and it's obvious they're making progress, even though there were a TON of people who signed up for their sites. Give them a break, start complaining once people go a month or two without receiving gifts.

oleus

11-11-2008 12:09:22

tylerc -

that's the thing, i don't think they've shipped anything out in a while.

zr2152

11-11-2008 12:19:24

[quote5407ce90d5="oleus"]tylerc -

that's the thing, i don't think they've shipped anything out in a while.[/quote5407ce90d5]

I believe October and November were huge months for them just like July and August were. We might start seeing stuff shipped out at the end of the month, if the same pattern occurs as it did with the busy summer months.

manOFice

11-11-2008 12:55:39

[quote57b3610322="zr2152"][quote57b3610322="oleus"]tylerc -

that's the thing, i don't think they've shipped anything out in a while.[/quote57b3610322]

I believe October and November were huge months for them just like July and August were. We might start seeing stuff shipped out at the end of the month, if the same pattern occurs as it did with the busy summer months.[/quote57b3610322]

Yep, October was a huge month for them... its basically when I did all my gifts because everyone was saying how great they were and some received their cards around this time last year so then the masses went after them and shortly after thats when most of their sites got taken down.

imapepper

11-11-2008 12:58:56

It appears to be all 12 months in the year seem to be their busy "months" ... and apparently there are people on here who have now gone 13 - 14 months without receiving anything....hmmmmmm

terryishere

11-11-2008 13:29:57

still waiting on 500 visa gift card,,confirmned to ship 1/22/07..god i hope they get here soon...

tylerc

11-11-2008 13:59:01

[quote4e843afec4="terryishere"]still waiting on 500 visa gift card,,confirmned to ship 1/22/07..god i hope they get here soon...[/quote4e843afec4]

Do you have your date wrong? I highly doubt you'd be waiting almost 2 years to get a gift. At least at this point in time.

manOFice

11-11-2008 14:10:57

[quote3f63b33658="tylerc"][quote3f63b33658="terryishere"]still waiting on 500 visa gift card,,confirmned to ship 1/22/07..god i hope they get here soon...[/quote3f63b33658]

Do you have your date wrong? I highly doubt you'd be waiting almost 2 years to get a gift. At least at this point in time.[/quote3f63b33658]

Most likely it's 11/22/07

terryishere

11-11-2008 14:33:46

im so sorry here is the right date
$500 Visa Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Jan-22-08 235 PM

oleus

11-11-2008 14:42:28

[quote941316596f="terryishere"]im so sorry here is the right date
$500 Visa Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Jan-22-08 235 PM[/quote941316596f]

you won't see that for a while, i'm sorry to say.

dubbin87

11-11-2008 16:49:13

[quote0e288b351d="oleus"][quote0e288b351d="terryishere"]im so sorry here is the right date
$500 Visa Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Jan-22-08 235 PM[/quote0e288b351d]

you won't see that for a while, i'm sorry to say.[/quote0e288b351d]
July?










2011 lol

orangejuice

11-11-2008 17:31:47

Ill be surprised if they are around next year this time honestly

ashilef

11-11-2008 18:08:58

I sincerely hope that Brandarama finds replacements for those CC gift cards, because by the time ya'll get them they will be useless!

oleus

11-11-2008 20:09:45

[quotec17671e509="ashilef"]I sincerely hope that Brandarama finds replacements for those CC gift cards, because by the time ya'll get them they will be useless![/quotec17671e509]

yeah, what's troubling is the fact that they have absolutely no response to the issue. for months i have been politely bringing this up to them to hopefully get the ball rolling on a replacement (CC has been in trouble for a while) and it has fallen on deaf ears. now that they are rapidly fading, i still can't get a straight answer from Brandarama on it. i wouldn't be so po'd if i hadn't been trying to avoid this pitfall for so long with them specifically about the Circuit City situation.

dubbin87

12-11-2008 03:37:51

Chance if CC goes belly up you'll end up getting offered another card (ie. bestbuy, amex...etc) so there's no real sense getting all upset over it. Just be more pissed off that they are dragging thier ass on getting anything sent out.

Swat1

12-11-2008 09:09:36

damn status page is gone for 2 of my gifts...wtf.

gotta call their asses now..ughh

oleus

12-11-2008 09:13:37

[quote68c61f259d="dubbin87"]Chance if CC goes belly up you'll end up getting offered another card (ie. bestbuy, amex...etc) so there's no real sense getting all upset over it. Just be more pissed off that they are dragging thier ass on getting anything sent out.[/quote68c61f259d]

there's plenty sense in getting all upset over it. they are taking 14+ months to fulfill gift orders, substituting for another card will likely add to that.

plus, the fact that they don't even have an answer about the CC cards makes me think they are basically "stuck" right now, otherwise they'd have some clue about the fulfillment of those particular cards from their vendor.

Swat1

12-11-2008 09:13:42

all better.

fatinma

13-11-2008 06:15:08

anyone else unable to even load www.brandarama.com ?

ILoveToys

13-11-2008 06:34:59

The page loads just fine...it's just not taking you directly to an actual site that offers a prize.

fatinma

13-11-2008 06:51:27

[quote61e05aeead="ILoveToys"]The page loads just fine...it's just not taking you directly to an actual site that offers a prize.[/quote61e05aeead]

I can't access brandarama.com/status at all, from my iphone, laptop using the free wireless downtown, or my companies connection on my workstation.

3 different devices using three different connections. hmmm.

I am guessing you are seeing a cached page then. I just tried 4 of our clients remote servers, using different ip addresses and dns servers and still did not open for me.

ghounds07

13-11-2008 07:12:50

[quoteccfd9aa614="oleus"][quoteccfd9aa614="orangejuice"]this is bs...over a month and nothing has been shipped. i have to wonder if we are screwed[/quoteccfd9aa614]

yeah, i'd like to know if we can figure out who around here actually recently received ANYTHING....scary[/quoteccfd9aa614]

I received my Sports Authority gift cards ($1350), like 2 weeks ago or so..

dmorris68

13-11-2008 07:13:30

Doesn't load for me either.

doylnea

13-11-2008 07:15:21

http//www.brandarama.com/status/ works fine for me.

dmorris68

13-11-2008 07:21:59

[quote31ce2a1ef8="doylnea"]http//www.brandarama.com/status/ works fine for me.[/quote31ce2a1ef8]
LOL, yeah it works now for me too. They must be having some sporadic issues or they're doing some maintenance. When I posted a few minutes ago I had tried three different Brandarama URL's and none worked. Now they all do. Go figure.

EDIT Heh, yeah there are some problem somewhere. Now they don't work again for me. The status page was up from doylnea's link, but after entering e-mail & zip code it just hangs while loading again, as do my other Brandarama URL's.

fatinma

13-11-2008 07:36:30

[quote5c52722913="dmorris68"][quote5c52722913="doylnea"]http//www.brandarama.com/status/ works fine for me.[/quote5c52722913]
LOL, yeah it works now for me too. They must be having some sporadic issues or they're doing some maintenance. When I posted a few minutes ago I had tried three different Brandarama URL's and none worked. Now they all do. Go figure.

EDIT Heh, yeah there are some problem somewhere. Now they don't work again for me. The status page was up from doylnea's link, but after entering e-mail & zip code it just hangs while loading again, as do my other Brandarama URL's.[/quote5c52722913]

still down for me. I will chalk it up as intermittent issues and not worry about it today.

dmorris68

13-11-2008 11:18:48

Working for me again. I think my problem earlier might have been with my company's network, because I also had problems hitting almost anything else around that time.

oleus

13-11-2008 14:44:04

more bad news for those of us waiting on Circuit City cards - they have started taking much of their regular inventory off of their website! All of the bluray discs are gone now, for instance. So even the option of shopping online with the giftcard is losing value...

mariners1999

13-11-2008 15:06:58

[quoteceaed4342d="oleus"]more bad news for those of us waiting on Circuit City cards - they have started taking much of their regular inventory off of their website! All of the bluray discs are gone now, for instance. So even the option of shopping online with the giftcard is losing value...[/quoteceaed4342d]

Oleus,

I would worry more about getting ANYTHING at this point. Not seeing them ship anything for a while and someone said something about the 10th of the month to watch.... Now the 13th and see nothing shipped for anyone here. Since the economy has gotten so bad I just hope they did not "invest" a lot of their cash in the market..... Again I know it is not a popular opinion but for a "huge company" I think they are getting ready to fail. You can't keep taking 3-4 months to ship one months worth of gifts. If they say they are not in financial touble then why not send out a big batch of gifts or checks????

roll

M

oleus

13-11-2008 15:12:25

[quote4246dd2344="mariners1999"][quote4246dd2344="oleus"]more bad news for those of us waiting on Circuit City cards - they have started taking much of their regular inventory off of their website! All of the bluray discs are gone now, for instance. So even the option of shopping online with the giftcard is losing value...[/quote4246dd2344]

Oleus,

I would worry more about getting ANYTHING at this point. Not seeing them ship anything for a while and someone said something about the 10th of the month to watch.... Now the 13th and see nothing shipped for anyone here. Since the economy has gotten so bad I just hope they did not "invest" a lot of their cash in the market..... Again I know it is not a popular opinion but for a "huge company" I think they are getting ready to fail. You can't keep taking 3-4 months to ship one months worth of gifts. If they say they are not in financial touble then why not send out a big batch of gifts or checks????

roll

M[/quote4246dd2344]

no i agree with you 100%. but every time i voice such concerns i am told to relax. i've received several GC's from them in the past but every good deal comes to an end and like you, i fear that end may have come.

hum1m9e8r8b

13-11-2008 15:24:48

relax ) . I'm waiting on $1000 worth, too. I just read that someone received a SA gc in the last couple of days. Worrying about it will not help anything anyways.

mariners1999

13-11-2008 15:33:06

[quote2bb10cc960="hum1m9e8r8b"]relax ) . I'm waiting on $1000 worth, too. I just read that someone received a SA gc in the last couple of days. Worrying about it will not help anything anyways.[/quote2bb10cc960]

Humm...........

No worry here as I have gotten more than my fair share (still have a few thousand dollars CTS) I just am tired of people saying just sit tight everything is fine. IT IS NOT FINE!!! We are now over 12 months behind and I see very little to no shipping in the last month. I am just waiting for the first complaint like I said before to the New York AG's office (they are brutal!)

Well ran and properly funded companies do not operate this way no matter what anyone says. If you are behind at what point do you think you will get pissed? 16 months? 20 months? I hope I am wrong but in the next month I see the writing on the wall and don't know how others do not see it??? Either they are blinded by the promise of easy money or just plain don't understand that this business cycle is about dead.

M

hum1m9e8r8b

13-11-2008 16:02:22

It is good business for them to do this. As long as they keep paying out, albeit very slowly, they cannot be considered a scam, per se. But the long wait prevents people like us from completing them. They get the best of all possible worlds, they're technically legit and people like us don't do them (which is good for their advertiser relationships).

beerman

17-11-2008 12:41:05

uh oh.....

http//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/TransTech-Services-Partners-Inc-Executes/story.aspx?guid=%7BE38D1053-6A64-4314-AACB-D85A10C61B46%7D

orangejuice

17-11-2008 13:21:55

what does all of that mean exactly??

oleus

17-11-2008 14:02:41

[quote71d05e2bd1="orangejuice"]what does all of that mean exactly??[/quote71d05e2bd1]

yeah, i'd like to know too.

as for those of us waiting on Circuit city cards, I was wondering - today they emailed me back saying an equivalent GC would be ordered if the CC cards weren't available when it comes time to ship it, which makes me wonder - will we have to wait another 14 months+ for a REPLACEMENT for the CC card?? argh!!

debo012004

17-11-2008 14:21:15

[quote95722393e4="orangejuice"]what does all of that mean exactly??[/quote95722393e4]
TransTech is an acquisition company so it is their job to acquire small and mid size companies and here is something that may be good news to us, it was taken from their website

[b95722393e4]A typical target would have revenue between $ 75 and $ 150 million positive cash flows and substantial operating history[/b95722393e4]; is preferably a private company with limited existing cross-border cost advantage and has experienced management team with good front-end sales and client relationships, which has potential for cross-sell and differentiated offering and competitive positioning.

mookieb2

17-11-2008 14:29:08

Just that they're getting bought out by trans tech. Do we know who they are or what they do?

If Active response is trying to look attractive they could be holding onto their money so their balance sheet looks more appetizing. But then again, decent due diligence by trans-tech would show them how much ARG is on the hook for.

So all that said? Who knows, but hopefully this will explain their slowdown.

slambam

17-11-2008 14:47:35

[quotecec67e5783="beerman1976"]uh oh.....

http//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/TransTech-Services-Partners-Inc-Executes/story.aspx?guid=%7BE38D1053-6A64-4314-AACB-D85A10C61B46%7D[/quotecec67e5783]

I don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing. I did find this though, looks like were not the only ones not getting paid. I'm not exactly sure who it is that isn't getting paid, but it's obviously not just someone who completed there sites. Probably marketing groups or something? Either way, looks like what they owe us might be minimal to what they owe others.

http//www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552220

Also some guy seems pretty PO'ed at ARG.

http//www.spamsuite.com/node/308 (just call ARG's attorneys and ask about it, haha)

http//www.whew.com/

Or maybe one of us could just get this job and then it'll be easier to figure out...

http//jobs.adotas.com/job/5821ddbe53f8da2084525dc3a208429c/?d=1&source=simplyhired

I'm kinda surprised this dude said ARG was in Colorado when he worked there. I though they were only located in NY.

http//www.brantseibert.com/work.html

Looks like back in April they spent $19,000 on a Private Meeting Room at this Ad Convention thing...

http//www.searchrev.com/newsletter/images/ad-tech_San_Francisco_2008_floor_plan.pdf

Yea, I'm bored....

dubbin87

17-11-2008 23:37:44

[quote05b342b5ed="slambam"][quote05b342b5ed="beerman1976"]uh oh.....

http//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/TransTech-Services-Partners-Inc-Executes/story.aspx?guid=%7BE38D1053-6A64-4314-AACB-D85A10C61B46%7D[/quote05b342b5ed]

I don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing. I did find this though, looks like were not the only ones not getting paid. I'm not exactly sure who it is that isn't getting paid, but it's obviously not just someone who completed there sites. Probably marketing groups or something? Either way, looks like what they owe us might be minimal to what they owe others.

http//www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552220

.[/quote05b342b5ed]deadbeats that can't pay thier bills? who da thunk?

edgespeeder04

18-11-2008 06:45:37

Haha maybe someone should e-mail this guy and find out the delay with our gifts

Peter Cunningham

Active Response Group
646-356-8156
email==peterc@activeresponsegroup.competerc@activeresponsegroup.com=peterc@activeresponsegroup.competerc@activeresponsegroup.com/email


lol just kidding
http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/contact.php

But it does seem like they have more than one office, i wonder how I could do advertising for them, more money to make since i run a website

orangejuice

18-11-2008 10:05:35

Wow, those guys that are getting paid 30 and 100k must be sending a SHIT LOAD of leads. i would love to see what website is doing it. thats bad ass.

beerman

18-11-2008 11:07:48

Let the shipments begin! Some just had 2500 ship. Remember to post your cts date

orangejuice

18-11-2008 11:29:36

who did? i dont see on any forums anywhere that a recent shipment was made.

orangejuice

18-11-2008 11:32:55

Hey guys, I just noticed, I cant login with one of my email addresses. Dont tell me they are cracking down on multiple emails like I-deal did...

zr2152

18-11-2008 12:35:15

[quote689fe5d904="orangejuice"]Hey guys, I just noticed, I cant login with one of my email addresses. Dont tell me they are cracking down on multiple emails like I-deal did...[/quote689fe5d904]

Why would you use multiple email address with these sites?

tiffrnwhitney

18-11-2008 13:41:26

I have used 2 email addresses. The first one was my home email address before I really started doing gifts. Than I realized the spam involved so I opened one up for doing gifts. So there is not a problem having more than one email.

orangejuice

18-11-2008 14:14:11

I always do, and did with ideal and nuitech in the old days, because the day after you signup, there are 1000 spam messages. lol. If i have a problem with an offer, i need to find the email quickly

beerman

18-11-2008 15:07:12

[quote58fdee5181="orangejuice"]who did? i dont see on any forums anywhere that a recent shipment was made.[/quote58fdee5181]

Its not me but I read this on FYB

$2500 for Your Child's COLLEGE EDUCATION
Shipped
[Nov-18-08 118 PM]

Zags1199

18-11-2008 15:11:01

...September?

Swat1

18-11-2008 15:14:56

[quotea26203db3b="beerman1976"][quotea26203db3b="orangejuice"]who did? i dont see on any forums anywhere that a recent shipment was made.[/quotea26203db3b]

Its not me but I read this on FYB

$2500 for Your Child's COLLEGE EDUCATION
Shipped
[Sep-18-08 2.. PM][/quotea26203db3b]

thats recent? that shipment was sent out in sept.

beerman

18-11-2008 15:15:25

sorry, wrong one....it was november 18th, today.

Swat1

18-11-2008 15:16:02

[quote316ae8aa50="beerman1976"][quote316ae8aa50="orangejuice"]who did? i dont see on any forums anywhere that a recent shipment was made.[/quote316ae8aa50]

Its not me but I read this on FYB

$2500 for Your Child's COLLEGE EDUCATION
Shipped
[Nov-18-08 118 PM][/quote316ae8aa50]


you can't just change the letters...

Swat1

18-11-2008 15:16:34

[quotebb8128c74c="beerman1976"]sorry, wrong one....it was november 18th, today.[/quotebb8128c74c]

lol.

hope that person wasn't lying then.

beerman

18-11-2008 15:18:59

I didn't just change the letters, check FYB if you don't believe me.....I hope he wasn't lying too....It would be nice to see something ship from them.

tylerc

18-11-2008 15:52:51

In the 37" plasma said someone said their $1,500 check was sent via USPS.

orangejuice

18-11-2008 16:13:37

This is really bugging me, my $2500 check was CTS under my original email address, and apparently they deleted the account. They couldn't even find it in the system. What the hell do i do now?

beerman

18-11-2008 16:16:51

were you communicating with them over email or the phone? If email, then give them a call. I went back and forth with them over email for weeks about a shipping issue and one call got it straightened out.

edgespeeder04

18-11-2008 18:24:55

$1500 check for the plasma site sounds good, have to do that next. ) After my vespa site though

SkatingCrippled

18-11-2008 18:50:46

[quote5d9ecaf434="edgespeeder04"]$1500 check for the plasma site sounds good, have to do that next. ) After my vespa site though[/quote5d9ecaf434]
Yeah I'm pretty sure the plasma site shut down already.

edgespeeder04

18-11-2008 19:01:55

ooo but i have it saved, just like every other good site, haha lol

SkatingCrippled

18-11-2008 19:42:14

[quotec188964acd="edgespeeder04"]ooo but i have it saved, just like every other good site, haha lol[/quotec188964acd]
Nice, I would be on that in a heartbeat!

edgespeeder04

18-11-2008 20:20:49

haha i would've in the past too but didn't have many offers i could do since i was doing offer swapping and lots of ideal sites but now that ideal is pretty much dead and I havent seen anything from them in months, i've been doing many brandarama sites, already did 3 $500 visa/ex sites 1 $500 Tiffany, $825 site and a few others all within the last 4 months, just too bad I have a long time to wait lol

orangejuice

18-11-2008 20:54:34

why even bother doing them anymore? i cant even imagine getting anymore gifts with how long they are taking...unless they pay off everyone lump sum when the new CEO comes in

wiebelhaus03

18-11-2008 21:21:28

no need to stop everyone else from completing brandarama sites.....if you don't think they'll pay out then don't do it i'm sick of all the ppl complaining

edgespeeder04

21-11-2008 20:41:04

Now I'm worried almost all of my confirmed to ship sites disappears as well as most of the possible good sites i wanted to do such as the grilles and a few best buy card sites and office depot and visa and am exs

totally sucks, i hope this is fixed soon.

oleus

22-11-2008 07:26:21

[quotea912bb1c63="wiebelhaus03"]no need to stop everyone else from completing brandarama sites.....if you don't think they'll pay out then don't do it i'm sick of all the ppl complaining[/quotea912bb1c63]

yeah, how dare any of us complain after we've waited almost 15 months for something that was promised to be delivered in 4-6 weeks.

edgespeeder04

22-11-2008 08:49:56

well it seems like they are doing this to see who is active or something, i e-mailed them and today they fix it all and told me that all the sites i had previously signed up for all are avaliable

manOFice

22-11-2008 08:51:35

[quote7f3f58b005="edgespeeder04"]well it seems like they are doing this to see who is active or something, i e-mailed them and today they fix it all and told me that all the sites i had previously signed up for all are avaliable[/quote7f3f58b005]

That doesn't make it right though if that is what their doing....

oleus

25-11-2008 09:31:10

anyone receive anything this week? has october '07 fulfillments come to a complete standstill?

listking

25-11-2008 14:01:39

I got an email from them last week stating that of course they are sorry for being slow but they have not stopped shipping. I was assured that the case is people who are receiving do not post on forums

kwoodyk34k

25-11-2008 14:07:14

[bd150f86fb6]IF[/bd150f86fb6] they shut down before they pay out is there any legal action we can take to get what's owed?

Not that they will... because i'm still optimistic ]
Just wondering ]
In fact, I bet all my gifts have been changed to SHIPPED as I type this ]

I'm going to go look right now!!!

manOFice

25-11-2008 14:09:46

[quote0633be9fb7="kwoodyk34k"][b0633be9fb7]IF[/b0633be9fb7] they shut down before they pay out is there any legal action we can take to get what's owed?

Not that they will... because i'm still optimistic ]
Just wondering ]
In fact, I bet all my gifts have been changed to SHIPPED as I type this ]

I'm going to go look right now!!![/quote0633be9fb7]

right... i'm sure all your gifts haven't gone to shipped, lol

But i'm sure if they did go under, they would get sued up the wazoooo

hum1m9e8r8b

25-11-2008 14:22:21

[quote9411df3d9c="listking"]I got an email from them last week stating that of course they are sorry for being slow but they have not stopped shipping. I was assured that the case is people who are receiving do not post on forums[/quote9411df3d9c]
How can they know who does and doesn't post on forums?

mariners1999

25-11-2008 14:48:23

[quote88e2814867="manOFice"][quote88e2814867="kwoodyk34k"][b88e2814867]IF[/b88e2814867] they shut down before they pay out is there any legal action we can take to get what's owed?

Not that they will... because i'm still optimistic ]
Just wondering ]
In fact, I bet all my gifts have been changed to SHIPPED as I type this ]

I'm going to go look right now!!![/quote88e2814867]

right... i'm sure all your gifts haven't gone to shipped, lol

But i'm sure if they did go under, they would get sued up the wazoooo[/quote88e2814867]

LOL it is always fun to sue a company that has gone out of business AND declared bankruptcy.... You become an unsecured creditor and most unsecured creditors get either nothing or pennies on the dollar....

I do feel with the new company buying them that we will see shipments speed up in the next 60 days or so. But again just my opinion.

M

fbskiracer

28-11-2008 10:42:04

Hmm all my pending gifts are missing.

oleus

02-12-2008 09:29:30

end of november came and went - anyone have anything shipped or are we at a grinding halt?

imapepper

03-12-2008 05:41:41

According to an email response I received today they are still on the October '07 shipping list. Meanwhile people from November shipping lists are receiving their gifts....hmmm....very interesting to say the least. The wait gets even longer! shock

hum1m9e8r8b

03-12-2008 09:50:19

I had a dream last night that brandarama called to confirm my shipping. Alas it was just a dream. sob

imapepper

03-12-2008 10:31:04

I just cant believe they are still on an October '07 list.......well actually I can LOL....Ughhhhhhhhhh I will not be a happy camper if I wind up waiting 2 years.

wiebelhaus03

03-12-2008 12:07:48

[quotec51e3e8679="hum1m9e8r8b"]I had a dream last night that brandarama called to confirm my shipping. Alas it was just a dream. sob[/quotec51e3e8679]


haha you know its sad when you start dreaming about it

mariners1999

03-12-2008 12:23:03

[quote1051c0716e="oleus"]end of november came and went - anyone have anything shipped or are we at a grinding halt?[/quote1051c0716e]


My new guess............ No shipments until after Christmas.

M


TransTech Services Partners Inc. and Active Response Group, Inc. Agree to Extend Letter of Intent
Monday November 24, 731 pm ET


NEW YORK, NY -- Nov. 24, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TransTech Services Partners Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board TTSPU - News; "TransTech") a special purpose acquisition company, today announced that TransTech entered into an amendment of its LOI with Active Response Group, Inc. ("ARG"), extending the date of expiration of the exclusivity period under the LOI to December 26, 2008. The terms of the amended LOI provide that it will expire on December 26, 2008, unless definitive agreements are entered into by such date and a substantially final form of TransTech's proxy statement exists by that date for filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Consummation of the proposed business combination between TransTech and ARG is subject to completion of due diligence by TransTech and receipt of requisite shareholder approval.

debo012004

03-12-2008 14:34:21

Just found out something interesting

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dubbin87

03-12-2008 14:36:56

[quoteec51905423="debo012004"]Just found out something interesting

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So, tell us. What was the results of the test? Don't leave us hangin man!

tylerc

03-12-2008 15:00:47

What's the problem with a corporation having a PO box?

freeipodplayer

03-12-2008 17:29:49

So Active Response is being bought out...? Well, I am going to assume we may be in for a little ride.

edit- from what someone wrote above... looks like they are merging with another company.

edit 2- TransTech buys out companies as investments. Looks like they buy a shitload too.

Sounds like ARG sold... probably aren't doing so great.

kalinkster

05-12-2008 18:30:05

My $600 Visa card was confirmed December 3rd, 2007 and the status hasn't change. Wow- whatta long wait!

ploppsdman

05-12-2008 18:46:59

I have considerable doubts as to whether they will resume shipping anytime soon. I continue to offer them that if they send me half of what Im owed in the next few months, we can call it even and they arent on the hook for the other half. They always decline; if you were in business and had any intention of shipping, I would think you'd jump at the chance to cut your costs in half.

I've completely written them off. If you do any more of their sites, you're nuts.

oleus

05-12-2008 18:48:54

[quote7784e6b614="ploppsdman"]I have considerable doubts as to whether they will resume shipping anytime soon. I continue to offer them that if they send me half of what Im owed in the next few months, we can call it even and they arent on the hook for the other half. They always decline; if you were in business and had any intention of shipping, I would think you'd jump at the chance to cut your costs in half.[/quote7784e6b614]

i share all your doubts. i don't think they have the money to send us anything right now, and the fact they're being bought out doesn't necessarily mean anything good for those of us waiting, either. if anything we may get lost in the shuffle/transition...

ploppsdman

05-12-2008 18:52:07

What I wrote a few months ago still rings true; I think they had a sort of pyramid scheme setup and not only that, but delayed payments on many because they were investing the money they owed us. Well, most of us are aware what has happened to stock prices and now, with them selling, I think they are done. I expect to never get anything from them.

oleus

05-12-2008 18:57:50

[quoteb053a77907="ploppsdman"]What I wrote a few months ago still rings true; I think they had a sort of pyramid scheme setup and not only that, but delayed payments on many because they were investing the money they owed us. Well, most of us are aware what has happened to stock prices and now, with them selling, I think they are done. I expect to never get anything from them.[/quoteb053a77907]

for those of us still owed more than $5000 in gifts, i'm really curious as to what our legal recourse would be if this time next year we still don't have anything...

ashilef

05-12-2008 19:03:20

[quotea825be1704="ploppsdman"]What I wrote a few months ago still rings true; I think they had a sort of pyramid scheme setup and not only that, but delayed payments on many because they were investing the money they owed us. Well, most of us are aware what has happened to stock prices and now, with them selling, I think they are done. I expect to never get anything from them.[/quotea825be1704]

I know it's easy to believe that, but I just read yesterday on another board of someones friend receiving their 2500 dollar check from the scholarship website. Better late than never. I think they are always sending out gifts. It's just that people in our little circle aren't seeing any of it right now.

Swat1

06-12-2008 09:48:47

[quote8342fa8b34="ashilef"][quote8342fa8b34="ploppsdman"]What I wrote a few months ago still rings true; I think they had a sort of pyramid scheme setup and not only that, but delayed payments on many because they were investing the money they owed us. Well, most of us are aware what has happened to stock prices and now, with them selling, I think they are done. I expect to never get anything from them.[/quote8342fa8b34]

I know it's easy to believe that, but I just read yesterday on another board of someones friend receiving their 2500 dollar check from the scholarship website. Better late than never. I think they are always sending out gifts. It's just that people in our little circle aren't seeing any of it right now.[/quote8342fa8b34]

our little circle isn't a circle...its a sample that is made up randomly.

Swat1

06-12-2008 09:51:52

[quote07e452a98e="ploppsdman"]I have considerable doubts as to whether they will resume shipping anytime soon. I continue to offer them that if they send me half of what Im owed in the next few months, we can call it even and they arent on the hook for the other half. They always decline; if you were in business and had any intention of shipping, I would think you'd jump at the chance to cut your costs in half.

I've completely written them off. If you do any more of their sites, you're nuts.[/quote07e452a98e]

do you really think the person emailing us all back have the authority to accept it? no.
also, if you know about thing about contract law, you will still be able to claim the other half later because there is no consideration within the change.

orangejuice

06-12-2008 10:21:54

I have 11k pending. About to write them off, i dont see it coming.

ploppsdman

06-12-2008 14:09:07

I have considerable doubts as to whether they will resume shipping anytime soon. I continue to offer them that if they send me half of what Im owed in the next few months, we can call it even and they arent on the hook for the other half. They always decline; if you were in business and had any intention of shipping, I would think you'd jump at the chance to cut your costs in half.

I've completely written them off. If you do any more of their sites, you're nuts.


do you really think the person emailing us all back have the authority to accept it? no.
also, if you know about thing about contract law, you will still be able to claim the other half later because there is no consideration within the change.


Im going to guess that the two parties in the contract are allowed to renegotiate ... I told them Id put it in writing and sign it. I also told them to forward it on to the appropriate dept, b/c no, a customer service employee has no authority to say yes.

oleus

08-12-2008 11:59:13

anyone else having problems logging in to their status page? i can't get on yourtopbrands.com

viperklt21

08-12-2008 12:38:28

I signed in ok

kidd2108

08-12-2008 19:12:35

Still wondering whether i should complete some sites. I still have the 14 offer-$2500 scholarship parked. I shouldve completed this a long time ago, just never got around to it. x

tylerc

08-12-2008 21:12:55

I wouldn't do any of their sites right now.

zr2152

08-12-2008 22:22:28

if they got bought out, they probably are not broke. it's an investment.

steveyankee

09-12-2008 05:55:42

Yeah, I'm not holding my breathe on getting my money. I have like 4.5k pending. I'm just writing it off.

bruman

09-12-2008 06:43:53

You guys are crazy.

mariners1999

09-12-2008 17:03:50

[quote68df286f86="bruman"]You guys are crazy.[/quote68df286f86]

Agree!!!

I am not doing anymore offers since I still have few thousand that are CTS but with this buyout/merger I would feel pretty good doing a few more sites if I was not already "retired" from this game. Everyone needs to chill until after December 26 when we see if the buyout/merger goes through.

There is really nothing you can do short of filing a lawsuit at this point so what is the problem with enjoying the Christmas season and dealing with this at the begining of next year? )

M

beerman

10-12-2008 05:41:43

that's a great plan, stop making them money and we'll never get paid....


Anyone see that wine club offer lately? I was thinking of doing that for a gift....

SkatingCrippled

10-12-2008 06:28:01

[quote650d66ce37="beerman1976"]that's a great plan, stop making them money and we'll never get paid....


Anyone see that wine club offer lately? I was thinking of doing that for a gift....[/quote650d66ce37]

Just to let you know-- Brandarama doesn't make money when we do there sites.

beerman

10-12-2008 06:48:21

[quote89681b504e="SkatingCrippled"][quote89681b504e="beerman1976"]that's a great plan, stop making them money and we'll never get paid....


Anyone see that wine club offer lately? I was thinking of doing that for a gift....[/quote89681b504e]

Just to let you know-- Brandarama doesn't make money when we do there sites.[/quote89681b504e]

They get paid by sponsors a lot faster than they pay us, so the more offers we do NOW the more money in thier pocket NOW to pay us.....that's all I meant....

this has been beat to death so no need to keep doing it......anyway....

[b89681b504e]so anyone see that wine offer around?[/b89681b504e]

oleus

16-12-2008 14:09:08

just got off the phone with them to check on things, they sounded dejected and negative about the whole situation and even said that their shipping department "won't get back to them" about how far behind they are. so, it's all the shipping department's fault apparently. i feel so much better.

ILoveToys

16-12-2008 14:19:41

so they need to give us the shipping dept's phone number then )

ashilef

16-12-2008 14:31:33

[quoteef84acd2de="ILoveToys"]so they need to give us the shipping dept's phone number then )[/quoteef84acd2de]

Pretty much...

oleus

16-12-2008 14:41:57

[quotec726ed7a85="ashilef"][quotec726ed7a85="ILoveToys"]so they need to give us the shipping dept's phone number then )[/quotec726ed7a85]

Pretty much...[/quotec726ed7a85]

it doesn't even sound like THEY have the shipping department's number, since their story is that they can't seem to comminicate with them properly...this is all starting to sounds like a big charade.

tylerc

16-12-2008 15:18:32

It is. But they are still shipping gifts, albeit slowly, so everyone should exercise some patience.

ploppsdman

16-12-2008 16:08:42

It is. But they are still shipping gifts, albeit slowly, so everyone should exercise some patience.

Exercise some patience? I'm going to guess that most of our patiences, thanks to this company, are absolutely ripped; like, Arnold Schwarzenegger 1975 ripped. If only my body has been so exercised by Brandarama.

tylerc

16-12-2008 17:01:42

You act like I'm not in the club too. I've been waiting, and I agree it's ridiculous, but what can we do about it? They were recently bought out by another company, so let's see what the next couple of months bring. We've waited this long, what's another couple months?

oleus

16-12-2008 18:04:24

[quotea8cbf084f0="tylerc"]You act like I'm not in the club too. I've been waiting, and I agree it's ridiculous, but what can we do about it? They were recently bought out by another company, so let's see what the next couple of months bring. We've waited this long, what's another couple months?[/quotea8cbf084f0]

what's another couple of months? what happens when february 09 rolls around and we're still waiting on oct 07? does anyone really think they'll be caught up in a couple of months?

we've been patient for 14 months, but it's completely reasonable to have completely lost patience at this point, and brandarama's CSR responses have become completely unacceptable. "We can't get a hold of the shipping department"!?!?

that is not reassuring.

imapepper

16-12-2008 21:08:18

I would have to agree...this is just ridiculous and customer service is severely lacking. They may be timely in their response, but their response tells one absolutely nothing and is garbage. They don't even correctly read what you are asking them....DUMB!! they are.

ploppsdman

17-12-2008 05:52:19

You act like I'm not in the club too. I've been waiting, and I agree it's ridiculous, but what can we do about it? They were recently bought out by another company, so let's see what the next couple of months bring. We've waited this long, what's another couple months?


I know you're in the waiting club ... I thought it was obvious I was joking?

viperklt21

18-12-2008 07:18:30

[quotec5d093e955]Thank you for contacting us.

Unfortunately, we are not expeditiing or making gift substitutions at this time. We are extremely far behind and this only puts us further behind.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
RewardsParade Member Support
[/quotec5d093e955]

I like that they ackowledge that they are "extreamely" far behind.

kalinkster

31-12-2008 21:20:56

Update

First, Happy New Year to all )

My $600 VISA Card towards PSP3 is shipped today. CTS - December 3rd, 2007. )

The $500 Best Buy Card still CTS since December 26th 2007.

-kalinkster

orangejuice

31-12-2008 22:06:05

hmm damn, when did they ship it?

baabaablacksheep

31-12-2008 23:13:36

not that it will change anything, but does anyone know if the Active Response Group/TransTech merger went through?

btw
http//www.transtechservicespartners.com
Tele +1 212 696-5977

kalinkster

31-12-2008 23:22:11

orangejuice,

Here's the detail from brandarama status page

$600 Visa Gift Card good towards a Sony PlayStation 3
Shipped
[Dec-31-08 204 PM]

I am not sure if my reporting them to BBB last week made a difference but I could be wrong - who knows.

Thanks,
kalinkster

terryishere

31-12-2008 23:26:02

i can only hope they will come thru wiht my 500 visa card it will be a year on the 28 of january..

orangejuice

01-01-2009 00:00:44

Thats awesome terry, congrats. Looks like they just started shipping after the 26th, so i am sure the merger had something to do with it.....

kwoodyk34k

01-01-2009 00:17:01

[quote35b15aacde="kalinkster"]Update

First, Happy New Year to all )

My $600 VISA Card towards PSP3 is shipped today. CTS - December 3rd, 2007. )

The $500 Best Buy Card still CTS since December 26th 2007.

-kalinkster[/quote35b15aacde]

Awesome news!

My $500 Best Buy is CTS December 21, 2007.
At first I read it too fast and thought yours was shipped.
But at least it's good to know that gifts are still rolling!
However, aren't there several Visas before you? Are those people still in the CTS stage? Anyone here one of them?

PS Happy New Year Everyone!
I seemed to have dozed off and the fireworks woke me up at 1206, lol.

oleus

01-01-2009 11:17:56

meanwhile, tons of us are still waiting on October 07 giftcards. remember when the Visas were actually lagging far behind the other cards?

wondering if at least contacting the BBB will get something going. this is unbelievably ridiculous.

kalinkster

01-01-2009 13:04:25

[quote9c6d89a462="kwoodyk34k"][quote9c6d89a462="kalinkster"]Update

First, Happy New Year to all )

My $600 VISA Card towards PSP3 is shipped today. CTS - December 3rd, 2007. )

The $500 Best Buy Card still CTS since December 26th 2007.

-kalinkster[/quote9c6d89a462]

Awesome news!

My $500 Best Buy is CTS December 21, 2007.
At first I read it too fast and thought yours was shipped.
But at least it's good to know that gifts are still rolling!
However, aren't there several Visas before you? Are those people still in the CTS stage? Anyone here one of them?

PS Happy New Year Everyone!
I seemed to have dozed off and the fireworks woke me up at 1206, lol.[/quote9c6d89a462]

kwoody,

I am not sure how many people are CTS before me but I know few people from the other forum who are still waiting. Given the time frame, the waiting period in receiving our incentive/gifts from brandarama is getting ridiculously long. But then again, I should stop whining now cuz finally I'm getting the visa card soon.

Once the bestbuy card is shipped, my love affair with Brandarama is over hehe. lol

Happy New Year Everyone! D

terryishere

01-01-2009 18:56:08

this is what i got in an email from them when i asked about my 500.00 visa card..
Dear terry monroe,

Thank you for contacting us.

We are currently 16 mos behind in shipping out those Visa Gift Cards.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
HouseHoldSavingsClub Member Support

livingloud28

01-01-2009 20:31:23

They sent me they are in almost finished with the October of 2007 ! I am still waiting on my Macys Confirmed to be shipped Nov 2007

RyanG

01-01-2009 21:34:04

still got a few waiting from Oct 07. i don't get their shipping department

tylerc

01-01-2009 21:36:25

I don't either. I got my $825 Nordstrom's GC that was CTS 11/5/07 in mid October.

oleus

02-01-2009 09:03:54

[quote661ddca2aa="livingloud28"]They sent me they are in almost finished with the October of 2007 ! I am still waiting on my Macys Confirmed to be shipped Nov 2007[/quote661ddca2aa]

they said they were close to finishing October 07 - back in August 08.

RyanG

02-01-2009 09:14:10

at least kim seems pretty nice. didn't get a canned response from her

mariners1999

02-01-2009 09:51:01

[quote4be7326e6a="tylerc"]I don't either. I got my $825 Nordstrom's GC that was CTS 11/5/07 in mid October.[/quote4be7326e6a]

-( Just my luck. I was CTS 11/1/07 and I STILL don't have my 825 Nordstrom GC..... Their shipping is just so random. Maybe a BBB complaint will speed this up.

M

oleus

03-01-2009 06:22:08

i ended up filing a BBB complaint and letting Brandarama know about it. This is inexcusable, whether they've paid out in the past or not. Having ZERO backup plan for the many of us who have been promised potentially worthless (given these ongoing delays) Circuit City cards is just not right.

slambam

03-01-2009 08:19:40

I highly doubt they'll screw the people getting CC GC's over. They just take forever to get the shit out. They're not stupid, just slower than molasses. Either way, they pay the same price for the cards, so it's not like they'd make money by getting you one you can't use.

oleus

03-01-2009 08:41:06

[quotedbebcad3b4="slambam"]I highly doubt they'll screw the people getting CC GC's over. They just take forever to get the shit out. They're not stupid, just slower than molasses. Either way, they pay the same price for the cards, so it's not like they'd make money by getting you one you can't use.[/quotedbebcad3b4]

you have more faith in them than i do, i guess.

btw, it has nothing to do with them "making more money by getting me the one i can't use" - of course they wouldn't, but if they've already ordered CC cards i wouldn't be surprised if that's what i end up with. their inability to give me a straight answer on my many attempts to get this straightened out have me disheartened.

i think most of us around here were fine with the 8-10 month delays because we knew what we were getting into. we built that into our expectations. those were long waits, but now they are acknowledging 16 month delays on visas and those of us paying attention are noticing the STEEP increasing trend in delays, so 2 year delays are right around the corner. unacceptable, and completely reasonable to contact BBB about the situation even if it's likely a dead-end (you gotta try, right?)

slambam

03-01-2009 09:18:49

Of course the wait is way too long, but I think many people have tried the BBB, with no help. Maybe it will work for you, but after almost a year and a half, I think we'd know if it would work by now. Also, I really wouldn't think they already purchased the CC cards. Why would they just have them sitting around and not shipped out yet? Makes no sense. But I guess a lot of other shit they do makes no sense too...

oleus

03-01-2009 09:31:07

slambam - you're probably correct on all counts, and BBB is no "easy fix" (if at all, in many ways they are a scam as well), i just figured after all this time i had to give it a shot, if just to let YTB that i did (they probably won't care). waiting is one thing, but after the last lame excuse about how the shipping department wouldn't give them an answer on the current delays, i have sort of lost any hope in getting anything.

ILoveToys

03-01-2009 09:36:07

Hey the merger just went through, and we've had the week of new years to contend with since. Hopefully shipping will pick up this week.

I'm still not opposed to completing a few more of the sites I have parked.

slambam

03-01-2009 10:50:09

Contacting BBB can't really hurt, I just don't know if it'll help. And ILoveToys is right, the merger just went through, and they shipped a few gifts last week. Being the holidays, I didn't expect shipments last week. It COULD be a sign of good things to come... Wishful thinking I guess.

orangejuice

03-01-2009 14:16:44

I have completely written em off, so i dont really care anymore...but i dont think we are getting shit, thats just my opinion

zr2152

03-01-2009 15:11:09

You guys also have to understand that this is not a freebie site that was created by a few high school kids. This is a corporation leading in internet advertising and will not be screwing anyone. People thought that I-Deal was going to crash but they are still around.

It does suck that ppl have to wait this long and it does seem shady.

dubbin87

03-01-2009 16:13:06

[quotebfe0f7f9a1="zr2152"]You guys also have to understand that this is not a freebie site that was created by a few high school kids. This [bbfe0f7f9a1] was [/bbfe0f7f9a1] a corporation leading in internet advertising and will not be screwing anyone [bbfe0f7f9a1] yet [/bbfe0f7f9a1]. People thought that I-Deal was going to crash but they are still around.

It does suck that ppl have to wait this long and it does seem shady.[/quotebfe0f7f9a1]

fixed that for ya.

mookieb2

03-01-2009 23:45:06

This is my mom's she was CTS in Dec. 07.


$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-31-08 208 PM]

RyanG

03-01-2009 23:52:24

[quote32446736c1="mookieb2"]This is my mom's she was CTS in Dec. 07.


$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-31-08 208 PM][/quote32446736c1]

makes sense, have 2 cards waiting from oct 07 and you get yours that was cts 2 months later.

Mbulelo

04-01-2009 09:06:19

[quote6ae7bbe42a="mookieb2"]This is my mom's she was CTS in Dec. 07.


$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-31-08 208 PM][/quote6ae7bbe42a]

What is your mother's first name initial?

tylerc

04-01-2009 12:28:29

[quoted8881d24b6="RyanG"][quoted8881d24b6="mookieb2"]This is my mom's she was CTS in Dec. 07.


$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-31-08 208 PM][/quoted8881d24b6]

makes sense, have 2 cards waiting from oct 07 and you get yours that was cts 2 months later.[/quoted8881d24b6]

Yeah, and bitching about it here really helps! Just be glad they're still shipping stuff.

dubbin87

04-01-2009 15:16:16

[quote36a12556cd="Mbulelo"][quote36a12556cd="mookieb2"]This is my mom's she was CTS in Dec. 07.


$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-31-08 208 PM][/quote36a12556cd]

What is your mother's first name initial?[/quote36a12556cd]

Dosen't really matter since people from Oct and Nov are still waiting on thier's. She somehow waved a magic wand and was able to skip ahead of everyone. Besides the whole name theory has been blown out of the water long ago.

tylerc

04-01-2009 17:42:33

[quote9e88caad0a="dubbin87"][quote9e88caad0a="Mbulelo"][quote9e88caad0a="mookieb2"]This is my mom's she was CTS in Dec. 07.


$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Dec-31-08 208 PM][/quote9e88caad0a]

What is your mother's first name initial?[/quote9e88caad0a]

Dosen't really matter since people from Oct and Nov are still waiting on thier's. She somehow waved a magic wand and was able to skip ahead of everyone. Besides the whole name theory has been blown out of the water long ago.[/quote9e88caad0a]

Your mom must be really old.

Eeyore

04-01-2009 18:08:21

Maybe they're paying off new accounts first before they do the ones which have 10 pending sites completed. Or before those they've already paid six times.

Or maybe they're auditing everyone.

Who knows. I'll get mine when it shows up. li shrug li

mookieb2

04-01-2009 18:31:40

Her first name is Vicki, and she's only ever done the 4 offer visa and a 3 offer amex. The amex has yet to ship.

I think the actual order is totally random at this point. Whatever they want to do. I got my 1,000 in Nov. (cts Nov 07). So for whatever reason, they sent ours out before yours. I am sorry that you have not recieved yours yet and I hope it goes shipped for you tomorrow.

I only posted to show it appears they are sending gifts out again.

supersponger1979

05-01-2009 10:35:49

Still waiting "patiently"

$250 Visa Gift Card
Confirmed; to be shipped
[Nov-16-07 359 PM]

kalinkster

05-01-2009 14:58:16

Update again

I thought I was going to get $600 Visa Gift Card but Brandarama sent one $500 Amex and $100 Amex.

Oh well, it's better than nothing. )

Have a great week everyone!

manOFice

06-01-2009 07:08:17

seeing that they have a abundance of amex's, they can gladly ship my 500 amex from oct 07, before anyone elses 1000 bux from dec again

oh well, /me sits back and continues to wait

slambam

06-01-2009 15:51:36

aaaaaaaand we have shippage...

$500 Sears Gift Card
Shipped
[Jan-6-09 312 PM]

CTS 11/30/07

dubbin87

06-01-2009 16:07:36

[quoteee8ee11d37="slambam"]aaaaaaaand we have shippage...

$500 Sears Gift Card
Shipped
[Jan-6-09 312 PM]

CTS 11/30/07[/quoteee8ee11d37]

My Nov Sears didn't ship ( but my Best Buy did today. D

Zags1199

06-01-2009 17:35:02

Wow, both my Best Buy gift cards shipped today. Nice. $900.

kalinkster

06-01-2009 19:15:30

Woot! that is great!

When were you guys CTS with BestBuy Card? (dubbin and Zags)

Just wondering. )

terryishere

06-01-2009 20:09:33

congrats all people with shippage..i wonder when the jan 08 500 visas are coming?? glad to see some things shipping again..congrats again guys

oleus

06-01-2009 20:35:54

[quoteed5ce745f3="manOFice"]seeing that they have a abundance of amex's, they can gladly ship my 500 amex from oct 07, before anyone elses 1000 bux from dec again

oh well, /me sits back and continues to wait[/quoteed5ce745f3]


yeah there's a lot waiting from october 07 - hoping we don't get passed over!

livingloud28

06-01-2009 20:49:27

Oh come on now where is my macys giftcard for $250 Confirmed November 07

potsey2007

06-01-2009 21:18:23

Went shipped on my $500 Sears as well that was confirmed in November

tylerc

06-01-2009 22:08:01

Good to hear, maybe now everyone will stop bitching.

dubbin87

07-01-2009 03:12:29

[quotecda5a851c4="tylerc"]Good to hear, maybe now everyone will stop bitching.[/quotecda5a851c4]

DAMMIT WHERE ARE MY FEB CARDS!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRRGHH!!!!!!




yeah maybe you are right.... wink

livingloud28

07-01-2009 06:26:23

Confirmed November 7th 07 not shipped ! (

manOFice

07-01-2009 07:06:08

Still Oct here, peepz that aren't in Oct/Nov really need to know they have a bit of waiting. Even if one or two peepz from dec received gifts

tbjstet

07-01-2009 07:12:02

just got my $500 lowes confirmed nov. 5 07, shipped dec. 31 2008

Zags1199

07-01-2009 07:22:43

I was confirmed for the BB cards in early November.

mistertomlinson

07-01-2009 13:01:29

I'm still waiting on my $2,500 check. CTS November 8 07. (

zombievixen

07-01-2009 14:21:36

My best buy card CTS November 29th shipped yesterday.
Still nothing on my Dec 6th Lowes. I dont expect that one for at least another couple months.

oleus

08-01-2009 10:06:23

apparently they are telling people now that they've moved in to November for all non-visas. but i have Circuit City and Amex cards from october 07. some people getting december gifts - seems to me like they aren't even going in order anymore.

viperklt21

08-01-2009 10:18:11

Just called and they said that the shipping department is trying to get the OCT list finished ASAP so they could start on the NOV list. She said I could expect my OCT AMEX any time now.

oleus

08-01-2009 10:22:58

well sounds like the ball is finally back rolling. these october gifts couldn't come at a better time.

MattMcQ

08-01-2009 10:27:50

when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?

slambam

08-01-2009 12:26:25

I believe the actual item if its still available by the time they get to send it out.

kwoodyk34k

08-01-2009 13:57:51

[quote8682a8f706="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quote8682a8f706]

Do you have a specific item/item(s) you're questioning about?

ashilef

08-01-2009 14:42:51

[quote7e9ac58e3e="kwoodyk34k"][quote7e9ac58e3e="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quote7e9ac58e3e]

Do you have a specific item/item(s) you're questioning about?[/quote7e9ac58e3e]

I'm waiting on a 16 gb ipod touch, and a macbook. I actually got a touch for x-mas, so in that situation I'm hoping they send money...but I doubt they will.

HYPE.

08-01-2009 15:09:58

[quote914afa5d88="ashilef"][quote914afa5d88="kwoodyk34k"][quote914afa5d88="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quote914afa5d88]

Do you have a specific item/item(s) you're questioning about?[/quote914afa5d88]

I'm waiting on a 16 gb iPod touch, and a macbook. I actually got a touch for x-mas, so in that situation I'm hoping they send money...but I doubt they will.[/quote914afa5d88]

When were you CTS?

I was CTS on October 18th for $500 AMEX on RewardsParade, still waiting (

ashilef

08-01-2009 15:19:48

[quoteaaf795eab2="HYPE."][quoteaaf795eab2="ashilef"][quoteaaf795eab2="kwoodyk34k"][quoteaaf795eab2="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quoteaaf795eab2]

Do you have a specific item/item(s) you're questioning about?[/quoteaaf795eab2]

I'm waiting on a 16 gb iPod touch, and a macbook. I actually got a touch for x-mas, so in that situation I'm hoping they send money...but I doubt they will.[/quoteaaf795eab2]

When were you CTS?

I was CTS on October 18th for $500 AMEX on RewardsParade, still waiting ([/quoteaaf795eab2]

I was actually CTS for those gifts in early '08, so I'll be joining the ranks of those who have been waiting a year or more for gifts pretty soon. I think people who are waiting for gifts from the BRANDARAMA domain name probably have the longest to wait. Seems all the other domains are continually shipping. But that's just my observation.

HYPE.

08-01-2009 15:23:56

[quote9cbc10c30a="ashilef"][quote9cbc10c30a="HYPE."][quote9cbc10c30a="ashilef"][quote9cbc10c30a="kwoodyk34k"][quote9cbc10c30a="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quote9cbc10c30a]

Do you have a specific item/item(s) you're questioning about?[/quote9cbc10c30a]

I'm waiting on a 16 gb iPod touch, and a macbook. I actually got a touch for x-mas, so in that situation I'm hoping they send money...but I doubt they will.[/quote9cbc10c30a]

When were you CTS?

I was CTS on October 18th for $500 AMEX on RewardsParade, still waiting ([/quote9cbc10c30a]

I was actually CTS for those gifts in early '08, so I'll be joining the ranks of those who have been waiting a year or more for gifts pretty soon. I think people who are waiting for gifts from the BRANDARAMA domain name probably have the longest to wait. Seems all the other domains are continually shipping. But that's just my observation.[/quote9cbc10c30a]

I think that would just be purley coincidental, they all seem to operate out of the same office in New York. I've gotten letters that say "Brandarama" on them from RewardsParade, too, so I doubt they even check to see what site it was done on.

ghounds07

08-01-2009 15:50:24

[quote57b85a30d0="HYPE."]
I was CTS on October 18th for $500 AMEX on RewardsParade, still waiting ([/quote57b85a30d0]

Nooooo....I am CTS Nov 7 and they still aren't done with October? (

kwoodyk34k

10-01-2009 05:11:25

With all the gifts being sent out has anyone gone CTS lately?
I sent in my forms for something over a month ago.

Or am I the only one that is still doing the sites? lol
I think I'll send them out again tomorrow to be safe. Just wondering though.

hum1m9e8r8b

10-01-2009 15:45:46

[quote1596b60489="kwoodyk34k"]With all the gifts being sent out has anyone gone CTS lately?
I sent in my forms for something over a month ago.

Or am I the only one that is still doing the sites? lol
I think I'll send them out again tomorrow to be safe. Just wondering though.[/quote1596b60489]
You will probably get your gift somewhere in the 2010-2011 range. I wouldn't do any more brandarama sites unless you don't mind that wait.

kwoodyk34k

10-01-2009 16:47:20

[quote99b78d5052="hum1m9e8r8b"][quote99b78d5052="kwoodyk34k"]With all the gifts being sent out has anyone gone CTS lately?
I sent in my forms for something over a month ago.

Or am I the only one that is still doing the sites? lol
I think I'll send them out again tomorrow to be safe. Just wondering though.[/quote99b78d5052]
You will probably get your gift somewhere in the 2010-2011 range. I wouldn't do any more brandarama sites unless you don't mind that wait.[/quote99b78d5052]

Yes, I'm aware. Just wondering why I haven't gone CTS after about a month and a week. I'll send em' out again.

slambam

10-01-2009 22:25:44

Eh, since Christmas they've actually been shipping every week, so maybe the wait won't be so long. Probably wishful thinking, but hey - things are looking up.

freeipodplayer

11-01-2009 18:40:07

[quote484f966a90="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quote484f966a90]

The only none gift-card i received from Brandarama was an Xbox 360 Elite 2 years ago....

I thought it was slow when it took 3 months to receive it....LOL now looks at things.

RyanG

11-01-2009 20:01:11

[quotefbcae6e372="freeipodplayer"][quotefbcae6e372="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quotefbcae6e372]

The only none gift-card i received from Brandarama was an Xbox 360 Elite 2 years ago....

I thought it was slow when it took 3 months to receive it....LOL now looks at things.[/quotefbcae6e372]

pretty sweet to get a 360 elite before it was even out. believe it came out oct/nov 2007

wiebelhaus03

11-01-2009 20:31:23

[quoteeb6f3152d3]Today, April 29, 2007, is Xbox 360 Elite launch day when retailers can officially put the black console up on the shelves and fanboys all over the US can have it in their possession[/quoteeb6f3152d3]

So almost 2 years ago it came out........why do ppl on this forum fight about everything?

Supacold

11-01-2009 21:48:06

Hey guys, its been awhile since i visited and im looking to get back in to the game lol.
I was wondering if anyone still have the $1k+ sports authority giftcard from brandarama? i had it saved in my account but i think it was removed. And also is it still possible for me to do the gifts that was clicked over a year ago?

"In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all of the sponsor offers that require you to sample and purchase products of interest within 180 days of signing up for our service."

Daggoth

11-01-2009 21:59:47

Brandarama is backed up over a year if you didn't already know. Ideal hasn't came out with any new sites in a while, but their 8offer/$600 is good. Haven't heard much from any of the other sites, either.

bruman

11-01-2009 22:34:14

[quote65f3103a85="Supacold"]Hey guys, its been awhile since i visited and im looking to get back in to the game lol.
I was wondering if anyone still have the $1k+ sports authority giftcard from brandarama? i had it saved in my account but i think it was removed. And also is it still possible for me to do the gifts that was clicked over a year ago?

"In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all of the sponsor offers that require you to sample and purchase products of interest within 180 days of signing up for our service."[/quote65f3103a85]

Send em an e-mail and ask permission. My $2500 scholarship was off of my account since I signed up for it like a year preivously.. I asked them about it and they put it back on there and said I could still complete it.

Supacold

11-01-2009 23:24:42

thanks for the info guys.
damn, i though brandaram would start shipping quicker by now, but 1 year backed up?! holy shlit

kwoodyk34k

12-01-2009 01:25:41

[quote0cc5756fe5="Supacold"]thanks for the info guys.
damn, i though brandaram would start shipping quicker by now, but 1 year backed up?! holy shlit[/quote0cc5756fe5]

Yep, at least.
It's Jan 09 and people are still waiting for Oct 07.
They're starting to pick up speed though.

freeipodplayer

12-01-2009 09:11:41

[quotef690e69683="RyanG"][quotef690e69683="freeipodplayer"][quotef690e69683="MattMcQ"]when you qualify for an item with Brandarama that isn't a gift card, do they send the actual item or will they send a check/amex for the value?[/quotef690e69683]

The only none gift-card i received from Brandarama was an Xbox 360 Elite 2 years ago....

I thought it was slow when it took 3 months to receive it....LOL now looks at things.[/quotef690e69683]

pretty sweet to get a 360 elite before it was even out. believe it came out oct/nov 2007[/quotef690e69683]

OH MY GAWD, I MESSED UP BY 3 MONTHS. OH MY GAWD.

RyanG

12-01-2009 09:12:52

[quotec8c0ec707b="wiebelhaus03"][quotec8c0ec707b]Today, April 29, 2007, is Xbox 360 Elite launch day when retailers can officially put the black console up on the shelves and fanboys all over the US can have it in their possession[/quotec8c0ec707b]

So almost 2 years ago it came out........why do ppl on this forum fight about everything?[/quotec8c0ec707b]

lol i was fighting? some people are just too sensitive on this forum )

Daggoth

12-01-2009 16:46:58

[quote761e7b6a56="kwoodyk34k"][quote761e7b6a56="Supacold"]thanks for the info guys.
damn, i though brandaram would start shipping quicker by now, but 1 year backed up?! holy shlit[/quote761e7b6a56]

Yep, at least.
It's Jan 09 and people are still waiting for Oct 07.
They're starting to pick up speed though.[/quote761e7b6a56]

I'll need to see it to believe it.

dubbin87

12-01-2009 17:42:44

[quoteff56ef85e3="Daggoth"][quoteff56ef85e3="kwoodyk34k"][quoteff56ef85e3="Supacold"]thanks for the info guys.
damn, i though brandaram would start shipping quicker by now, but 1 year backed up?! holy shlit[/quoteff56ef85e3]

Yep, at least.
It's Jan 09 and people are still waiting for Oct 07.
They're starting to pick up speed though.[/quoteff56ef85e3]

I'll need to see it to believe it.[/quoteff56ef85e3]

BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

tonydanza92

13-01-2009 09:04:46

Every time I get on sum1 says they are picking up speed hehe

I got a $500 card from rewards parade CTS May of 2008... I try to forget I completed it so that in a year or 2 it is totally a suprise if and when it finally shows up

oleus

13-01-2009 09:14:11

i just wish yourtopbrands oct 07 list would get included in this supposed "speed up"!

supersponger1979

13-01-2009 12:31:08

are they moving backwards...????

Thank you for contacting us.

We are currently working on the Aug '07 shipping list for the Visa Gift Cards. Sorry for the delay. I am unable to tell you when you will receive your gift as that is information that I am not provided with.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
RewardsParade Member Support

livingloud28

13-01-2009 13:26:56

Are you kidding me is Kim the only person that answers email supports i want that job D . Also I called and they said they are on November for all other gifts will things ever move forward with them .

oleus

13-01-2009 14:18:27

[quote5bd3d48bbf="livingloud28"]Are you kidding me is Kim the only person that answers email supports i want that job D . Also I called and they said they are on November for all other gifts will things ever move forward with them .[/quote5bd3d48bbf]

but they're not, there are plenty of us waiting on various non-visas from oct 07.

livingloud28

13-01-2009 14:29:42

I know I was just making a statement I am waiting too .

Sstaceyrae21

14-01-2009 08:35:09

Has anyone received their gift without a status change? My status still says CTS Nov 07, but support says it was shipped yesterday, check back if I didn't get it in week? Anyone have any thought on that, or are they just telling me anything to answer my timeframe questions?

thatpnkchnkgrle

14-01-2009 14:03:08

Kind of curious if anyone here has done an address change after they were CTS (asking b/c I'm moving next month and have 3 things CTS)?

I have once and it still went to the old address. First it bounced back. I emailed them to which they replied that they updated my address and assured me it was sent there. They resent a few days later and it still ended up at the old address (luckily, my parents' house).

Hoping this was just a glitch...

figgarro

14-01-2009 14:10:27

I have done, two address changes with them since I have been cts, they have always changed it with no problems.

thatpnkchnkgrle

14-01-2009 14:38:05

[quotedd275f4a4d="figgarro"]I have done, two address changes with them since I have been cts, they have always changed it with no problems.[/quotedd275f4a4d]

Yeah I agree. They change it with no problem at all.

Did you actually receive the gifts at your new address after you moved though?

ploppsdman

14-01-2009 18:31:43

I wonder if they'll ship to my tombstone ...

ploppsdman

14-01-2009 18:33:00

Hell, they should release a 4 offer Tombstone page. At least it would show they have a sense of humor over how they will never ship most of our cards.

freeipodplayer

14-01-2009 21:35:27

[quote3dfcbef786="livingloud28"]Are you kidding me is Kim the only person that answers email supports i want that job D . Also I called and they said they are on November for all other gifts will things ever move forward with them .[/quote3dfcbef786]

BS

benedict

14-01-2009 22:31:11

any updates on the $2500 topshelfbrands scholarship gift? I am CTS Nov of 2007 and I should be receiving it "shortly"...I hope.

RyanG

15-01-2009 07:27:14

[quotea5d8cae6df="benedict"]any updates on the $2500 topshelfbrands scholarship gift? I am CTS Nov of 2007 and I should be receiving it "shortly"...I hope.[/quotea5d8cae6df]

kim tell you that too? she said to check back with her in 30 days if my 500 amex hasn't shipped yet. better then the usual response

bradjohnson08

15-01-2009 08:50:07

Also seems the Sports Authority gift cards are about at a stand still.... no posts of those shipping in a long time.... girlfriend is CTS in Nov 07 and no sign of it yet...

oleus

15-01-2009 09:08:57

october 07 still way behind as well, i'm waiting on amex and circuit city cards. i am beginning to wonder if last week's small flurry of shipments was just an illusion!

livingloud28

15-01-2009 12:15:22

Yeah I got to send my $1350 Sports Authority papers , $500 Amex and D.donuts wondering if I should send them in .

orangejuice

15-01-2009 12:22:09

i wouldnt bother..im serious

hum1m9e8r8b

15-01-2009 12:35:08

[quotedf24dc93a9="livingloud28"]Yeah I got to send my $1350 Sports Authority papers , $500 Amex and D.donuts wondering if I should send them in .[/quotedf24dc93a9]
Why not? There's been no reason to suspect them of identity theft by ripping your social from the w-9. You don't have anything to lose, unless you will be driven crazy by the wait.

oleus

16-01-2009 08:29:45

well, today Circuit City annouced they are liquidating. i really really wish YTB/Brandarama would give those of us waiting on CC giftcards an answer about what they are going to do about all of us that have supposed CC cards dating back to october 07, when we could have actually used them. because now they will be 100% worthless even if we were willing to drive hours to an open store or use it with their limited online inventory.

this whole thing is starting to make my blood boil - last week things were looking up but i see no indication that they are actually making progress on oct 07 or that they have any plan on what they are going to do with people promised Circuit City cards. Since Kim doesn't know, and she doens't know who to ask that would have that answer, i'm stuck Blilililili about it here.

sweeedfish

16-01-2009 09:47:16

[quote02e5deedc7="orangejuice"]i wouldnt bother..im serious[/quote02e5deedc7]
you sure are mr. negative, every post I see from you is doom and gloom. You will get your damn gift so calm down.

oleus

16-01-2009 10:12:15

[quotebfc6b46a0b="sweeedfish"][quotebfc6b46a0b="orangejuice"]i wouldnt bother..im serious[/quotebfc6b46a0b]
you sure are mr. negative, every post I see from you is doom and gloom. You will get your damn gift so calm down.[/quotebfc6b46a0b]

honestly who could blame him? one has to seriously consider the chances that this company will exist in any capacity when the soon-to-be 2-year wait for giftcards arrives.

today in Kim's response to an Oct 07 question she mentioned they are moving on to the "very slow transition to November 07". what does that tell you? how long have they taken just to get to the "very slow transition" to 14 months ago?

i think we are at "the end" and anyone who gets anything from this point on is lucky. seems like they are banking heavily on folding while they have the most advantageous amount of outstanding giftcards, meanwhile sending out a few cards here and there to create the illusion that things are "ok".

steveyankee

16-01-2009 10:16:00

Yeah, I would consider it luck if you get a gift card from here on out.

hum1m9e8r8b

16-01-2009 11:12:11

[quote8de5a94515="oleus"]seems like they are banking heavily on folding while they have the most advantageous amount of outstanding giftcards, meanwhile sending out a few cards here and there to create the illusion that things are "ok".[/quote8de5a94515]
They probably should have folded a while ago then. For each time they payout on a 4/$500 site, how many offer completions does it take just to recoup that loss? I don't think that many people are completing the sites anymore, at least from here.

wiebelhaus03

16-01-2009 11:28:01

have you ever searched any of brandarama's sites on google?

tons of idiots complete their sites, but don't get the gifts because they don't send in the forms or complete enough offers. Anytime you see "scam" online about brandarama it's just stupid people who don't know what they're doing and that gives brandarama more money

oleus

17-01-2009 08:30:59

[quotef300731645="wiebelhaus03"]have you ever searched any of brandarama's sites on google?

tons of idiots complete their sites, but don't get the gifts because they don't send in the forms or complete enough offers. Anytime you see "scam" online about brandarama it's just stupid people who don't know what they're doing and that gives brandarama more money[/quotef300731645]

i think you underestimate the power of sites like this and others that showed people how to finish these sites ... the stupid people not finishing may have been more a factor 3+ years ago.

i really don't believe i am going to see any of the 6 cards they owe me. i'd love to be proven wrong. and this is coming from someone who has received cards from them in the past. i'm pretty sure "kim" knows this too.

livingloud28

17-01-2009 09:27:04

I can only hope that your wrong ( !

MamaToldMeDIY

17-01-2009 10:33:52

I received my 500$ Best Buy card last week, CTS 11/29/07

woot woot Wii stuff

oleus

17-01-2009 10:37:45

[quotef16569df5c="MamaToldMeDIY"]I received my 500$ Best Buy card last week, CTS 11/29/07

woot woot Wii stuff[/quotef16569df5c]

again, still wondering how all this Nov'07 stuff is getting shipped when October is far from shipped.

Mbulelo

17-01-2009 13:50:56

[quote5284c804a3="oleus"][quote5284c804a3="MamaToldMeDIY"]I received my 500$ Best Buy card last week, CTS 11/29/07

woot woot Wii stuff[/quote5284c804a3]

again, still wondering how all this Nov'07 stuff is getting shipped when October is far from shipped.[/quote5284c804a3]

I honestly believe we are very patient with Brandarama. We deserve to, at least, know the order of their shipment. It looks like we are so scared of being told that we won't get our gifts when we can confront this company with questions about what we are owed. We are not getting these gifts for nothing, we paid our dues by trying several products. I think when we hand them a petition with specific questions, they would know not to take us for granted. Individual complaints don't carry as much impact as when a group is asking serious questions. We are lied to daily and all we do we just accept whatever we are told. There are several people who were CTS November, December and January who have received their Visa gifts ahead of some still waiting for October. I had a heated exchange with Kim about their (Brandarama) lies, and her response was, "How do you know that those who received their gifts ahead of others might know someone in the company?". When I asked her about the order of shipment, she couldn't commit to any response, only stating that shipping department has those details. What is evident is that we are allowing these people to take us for a ride. I would like to see a movement towards pressure and accountability. What we deserve is the truth.

bruman

17-01-2009 14:38:42

My November $500 Best Buy card was shipped September 24th along with my Oct $825 Nordstrom card (both shipped on the same day in separate envelopes).
I definitely do not have any inside info at Brandarama, or know any of the employees or anything like that.. there shipping schedule just don't seem to have much of a pattern.

But I do think we should organize something-- join together to try and find answers. If a large group of people demand answers I would think that would have more of an impact than just single individuals howling at CS agents who claim to know nothing.

livingloud28

17-01-2009 15:11:24

I bet they are working at home in their home office and the calls get routed to their computer lol thats why they know nothing .

oleus

17-01-2009 15:19:01

kim's response about "how do you know those people don't know someone in the company" is VERY strange if you ask me.

hum1m9e8r8b

17-01-2009 15:35:29

[quotee8d2768bea="wiebelhaus03"]have you ever searched any of brandarama's sites on google?

tons of idiots complete their sites, but don't get the gifts because they don't send in the forms or complete enough offers. Anytime you see "scam" online about brandarama it's just stupid people who don't know what they're doing and that gives brandarama more money[/quotee8d2768bea]
That was my point, they have stopped people from here completing their sites, but they still got lots of people from everywhere else. Which means they're still making money, which means there's no reason to fold.

orangejuice

17-01-2009 15:45:11

dont forget they were just acquired by a big company. i dont know if thats good or bad at this point but i guess we will see in the coming months. as i said before, they have until march or ill serve them with a summons. i got nothing but time to go to court.

ghounds07

17-01-2009 16:24:27

[quote5bf4f56f05="oleus"]kim's response about "how do you know those people don't know someone in the company" is VERY strange if you ask me.[/quote5bf4f56f05]

You interpreted the quote wrong. Kim was questioning the email she received, which must have said something about the people receiving gifts knowing someone in the company.

FreeOffersNow

17-01-2009 19:47:39

[quoted3f8813d13="Mbulelo"]
I honestly believe we are very patient with Brandarama. We deserve to, at least, know the order of their shipment. It looks like we are so scared of being told ....blah blah blah blah blah.... when we can confront this company with questions about what we are owed. We are not getting these gifts....blah blah blah blah blah.... dues by trying several products. I think when we hand them a petition with specific questions, they would know not to take us for granted. Individual ....blah blah blah blah blah.... [/quoted3f8813d13]

/me wonders if anyone else is tired of listening to all the belly-aching. Shut the fuck up and wait like the rest of us. Sure it's not an ideal (no pun intended) situation, but let's take a realistic assessment of what's going on here First, there is no reasonable legal recourse available to your or anyone else waiting for gifts from Brandarama. Second, have you stopped to think what else you might be doing with the $40~ it cost you to get a 2500% return in under two years (these are MODEST numbers, I spent $15~ for the $1000 Visa @ YourTopBrands).

How about you try your hand in the stock market...see how well you fare there. At least you know the SEC will ensure that you're treated “fairly”.

steveyankee

17-01-2009 21:04:37

Don't even try to compare BR to the stock market. Apples and oranges.

RyanG

17-01-2009 21:17:35

this thrad is lol

Mbulelo

17-01-2009 21:28:33

[quotec81d156e1c="FreeOffersNow"][quotec81d156e1c="Mbulelo"]
I honestly believe we are very patient with Brandarama. We deserve to, at least, know the order of their shipment. It looks like we are so scared of being told ....blah blah blah blah blah.... when we can confront this company with questions about what we are owed. We are not getting these gifts....blah blah blah blah blah.... dues by trying several products. I think when we hand them a petition with specific questions, they would know not to take us for granted. Individual ....blah blah blah blah blah.... [/quotec81d156e1c]

/me wonders if anyone else is tired of listening to all the belly-aching. Shut the fuck up and wait like the rest of us. Sure it's not an ideal (no pun intended) situation, but let's take a realistic assessment of what's going on here First, there is no reasonable legal recourse available to your or anyone else waiting for gifts from Brandarama. Second, have you stopped to think what else you might be doing with the $40~ it cost you to get a 2500% return in under two years (these are MODEST numbers, I spent $15~ for the $1000 Visa @ YourTopBrands).

How about you try your hand in the stock market...see how well you fare there. At least you know the SEC will ensure that you're treated “fairly”.[/quotec81d156e1c]

LMAO @ "try your hand in the stock market". Sounds like someone asking for another Bush term.
You certainly sound uncouth and naive. What you don't understand is that business is business, no matter how much of a return you get. It is not about how much return you get, but knowing when and if you'll get. This economic crisis should have thought a few things about knowing who you're doing business with. What we are trying to figure out is a way of getting answers from confusing responses and transactions by this company. I have received everything I am owed in 2007 ($35K). I am only owed gifts from Jan 2008 ($60K). What I was trying to impress here is not necessarily for me, but the participants at large. If a lousy $1000 (from a $15) makes your head spin, I'll mail you $2000 in 2014 after you give me $20 now. How does that sound? Some people just deserve to be treated like peasants because no matter how much you try to help them, they refuse to get educated. If you are not willing to get some kind of accountability from Brandarama, shut your 23yr old up and listen to the wise, you might learn something.

Zags1199

17-01-2009 21:36:31

Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.

Mbulelo

17-01-2009 21:39:28

[quoteb9a202c40b="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quoteb9a202c40b]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)

SkatingCrippled

17-01-2009 22:05:51

[quotec1b465ea78="Mbulelo"][quotec1b465ea78="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quotec1b465ea78]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quotec1b465ea78]

I really hope that was sarcasm.

orangejuice

17-01-2009 22:12:01

thats funny because he repeated offers like a mofo to do that. lol.

wiebelhaus03

17-01-2009 22:24:10

i'll take you up on the $20 now and $2000 in 2014!

bruman

17-01-2009 23:12:28

You have $60,000 CTS from January 2008?
There is absolutely no possible way that could of been done legitimately.

MamaToldMeDIY

18-01-2009 04:36:31

Not unless he has a bunch of people's identities or 20 kids in his house..lol

they have a prize limit, plus the whole "You can only do each offer every 6 months" thing.

FreeOffersNow

18-01-2009 05:34:02

[quote106e6d70aa="steveyankee"]Don't even try to compare BR to the stock market. Apples and oranges.[/quote106e6d70aa]

That was the point...the statement was meant to illustrate that we're dealing with a different animal than some may be used to dealing with (i.e. a business whose service is so desirable they can reasonably assume that despite questionable business practices and a terrible BBB report, they will continue to bring in new customers). As such, a "standard" course of action doesn't apply, or at least should not be expected to yield the same results.


[quote106e6d70aa="Mbulelo"] If a lousy $1000 (from a $15) makes your head spin, I'll mail you $2000 in 2014 after you give me $20 now. How does that sound? Some people just deserve to be treated like peasants because no matter how much you try to help them, they refuse to get educated. If you are not willing to get some kind of accountability from Brandarama, shut your 23yr old up and listen to the wise, you might learn something.[/quote106e6d70aa]

...you saw my age, did you happen to think about making that extra effort to look two, and threelines down (respectively) to see my post count and join date? Further, did you perhaps consider that in my 23 years I've been privileged enough to receive a better education than you have in your 40...especially in this field? I haven't been here working on the "lousy $1000 (from a $15)" for 4+ years; this I promise you.

And while we're making unhumorous jokes ("Sounds like someone asking for another Bush term." - I'm a registered DEM...GOBAMA!), here's one for you LOL @ "If a lousy $1000 (from a $15) makes your head spin, I'll mail you $2000 in 2014 after you give me $20 now. How does that sound? " Sounds like someone is trying to fill Madoff's shoes. ZING! Sawubona...

oleus

18-01-2009 08:35:24

freeoffersnow-

MOST of us who signed up for these offers were fine with a 4-8 month wait for the cards since we knew what we were getting in to. now we're at 1 1/2 year wait for cards from oct 07, at the same time they seem to be making better progress on Nov 07! Kim says they are moving on to the "very slow process of transitioning into Nov 07". For people waiting on gifts CTS in 08 this could mean 2+ years wait.

seems to me like this is a textbook of example of "bellyaching" that is 100% warranted and called for.

slambam

18-01-2009 10:33:20

[quote7ca680feaf="Mbulelo"][quote7ca680feaf="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quote7ca680feaf]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quote7ca680feaf]

Yea, if you ever wonder why they're so behind of gifts, take a look in the mirror. It's idiots like you flik everything up by scamming the company. You should post all the offers you did and how any times you did each one. WTF do you expect?

Oh yea, and have fun when tax time rolls around...

bruman

18-01-2009 10:33:32

[quote033fa8785f="MamaToldMeDIY"]Not unless he has a bunch of people's identities or 20 kids in his house..lol

they have a prize limit, plus the whole "You can only do each offer every 6 months" thing.[/quote033fa8785f]

No.... you're thinking of i-deal.

Mbulelo

18-01-2009 11:40:27

[quote6291afba19="slambam"][quote6291afba19="Mbulelo"][quote6291afba19="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quote6291afba19]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quote6291afba19]

Yea, if you ever wonder why they're so behind of gifts, take a look in the mirror. It's idiots like you flik everything up by scamming the company. You should post all the offers you did and how any times you did each one. WTF do you expect?

Oh yea, and have fun when tax time rolls around...[/quote6291afba19]

Idiot? How you wish you could understand how I have managed to effectively make that much without breaking any rules. Reminds me of those fools who always fail their exams and get mad at you for doing well because you're messing the curve. Brandarama has even asked me to market their site. Wonder why? Smartness and knowing how to effectively maximize profit.

Mbulelo

18-01-2009 11:42:47

[quotefcca1f95f5="Mbulelo"][quotefcca1f95f5="slambam"][quotefcca1f95f5="Mbulelo"][quotefcca1f95f5="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quotefcca1f95f5]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quotefcca1f95f5]

Yea, if you ever wonder why they're so behind of gifts, take a look in the mirror. It's idiots like you flik everything up by scamming the company. You should post all the offers you did and how any times you did each one. WTF do you expect?

Oh yea, and have fun when tax time rolls around...[/quotefcca1f95f5]

Idiot? How you wish you could understand how I have managed to effectively make that much without breaking any rules. Reminds me of those fools who always fail their exams and get mad at you for doing well because you're messing the curve. Brandarama has even asked me to market their site. Wonder why? Smartness and knowing how to effectively maximize profit. And by the way, tax are paid here, but stillmaking great profit.[/quotefcca1f95f5]

Mbulelo

18-01-2009 11:43:11

[quote1f2c7e35e2="Mbulelo"][quote1f2c7e35e2="Mbulelo"][quote1f2c7e35e2="slambam"][quote1f2c7e35e2="Mbulelo"][quote1f2c7e35e2="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quote1f2c7e35e2]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quote1f2c7e35e2]

Yea, if you ever wonder why they're so behind of gifts, take a look in the mirror. It's idiots like you flik everything up by scamming the company. You should post all the offers you did and how any times you did each one. WTF do you expect?

Oh yea, and have fun when tax time rolls around...[/quote1f2c7e35e2]

Idiot? How you wish you could understand how I have managed to effectively make that much without breaking any rules. Reminds me of those fools who always fail their exams and get mad at you for doing well because you're messing the curve. Brandarama has even asked me to market their site. Wonder why? Smartness and knowing how to effectively maximize profit. And by the way, tax are paid here, but still making great profit.[/quote1f2c7e35e2][/quote1f2c7e35e2]

Mbulelo

18-01-2009 11:44:25

[quoted849cf66f0="Mbulelo"][quoted849cf66f0="Mbulelo"][quoted849cf66f0="Mbulelo"][quoted849cf66f0="slambam"][quoted849cf66f0="Mbulelo"][quoted849cf66f0="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quoted849cf66f0]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quoted849cf66f0]

Yea, if you ever wonder why they're so behind of gifts, take a look in the mirror. It's idiots like you flik everything up by scamming the company. You should post all the offers you did and how any times you did each one. WTF do you expect?

Oh yea, and have fun when tax time rolls around...[/quoted849cf66f0]

Idiot? How you wish you could understand how I have managed to effectively make that much without breaking any rules. Reminds me of those fools who always fail their exams and get mad at you for doing well because you're messing the curve. Brandarama has even asked me to market their site. Wonder why? Smartness and knowing how to effectively maximize profit. And by the way, taxes (10%-25%) are paid here, but still making great profit.[/quoted849cf66f0][/quoted849cf66f0][/quoted849cf66f0]

ILoveToys

18-01-2009 12:07:06

Why the heck are you quoting your posts over and over and over again.

orangejuice

18-01-2009 12:23:38

because the 40 year old virgin is a noob

oleus

18-01-2009 12:27:06

brandarama owes us all some extra $$$ to cover therapy bills because of the stress they are causing us. the humanity! let's contact kim about it, i'm sure she'll help. 8)

Zags1199

18-01-2009 12:33:51

[quotec2311c0657="Mbulelo"][quotec2311c0657="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quotec2311c0657]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quotec2311c0657]

Wow, that's ridiculous and impossible to do legitimately. Post all your offers and expected gifts.

FreeOffersNow

18-01-2009 13:48:24

Quotes himself because he can't figure out how to edit the post...LOL.

Great job addressing my reply, by the way. "Brandarama has even asked me to market their site. Wonder why?" In what capacity? Brandarama telling you they have an affiliate program... != (that's "not equal to", how silly of me to assume you'd know that) asking you to market their site. Keep your head in the clouds old man.

Also, despite the fact that you claim to have "managed to make that much without breaking any rules" - walking other individuals through the process (e.g. your mother [again, I apologize for making assumptions about your level of education - e.g means "for example"]) constitutes just that - breaking the rules. My bet would be, if your figures truly are accurate, you're even more involved than just walk-throughs.

orangejuice

18-01-2009 17:07:07

everyone here repeated offers on brandarama sites, so i wouldnt go bash people too far here

slambam

18-01-2009 17:07:58

[quoted952436afe="Mbulelo"] [quoted952436afe="slambam"][quoted952436afe="Mbulelo"][quoted952436afe="Zags1199"]Nevermind. I'm assuming you mean $3500 and $6000.[/quoted952436afe]

No, I mean $35000 and $60000 (over 84 gifts CTS from Jan 2008)[/quoted952436afe]

Yea, if you ever wonder why they're so behind of gifts, take a look in the mirror. It's idiots like you flik everything up by scamming the company. You should post all the offers you did and how any times you did each one. WTF do you expect?

Oh yea, and have fun when tax time rolls around...[/quoted952436afe]

Idiot? How you wish you could understand how I have managed to effectively make that much without breaking any rules. Reminds me of those fools who always fail their exams and get mad at you for doing well because you're messing the curve. Brandarama has even asked me to market their site. Wonder why? Smartness and knowing how to effectively maximize profit.[/quoted952436afe]

So you are CTS for 84 gifts in the same month, and NEVER duplicated offers? I'll believe that when I hit the lotto. Even if they were all 1 offer gifts (and I don't believe Brandarama even has any 1 offer gifts) there wouldn't be enough offers. Plus throw in the 35K you say you were CTS for from the previous month or two and it's definitely a load of shit. Obviously your "smartness and knowing how to effectively maximize profit" involves completing offers multiple times. Keep thinking your so smart, but there is no way you completed all the gifts yourself and never did the same offer more than once. Plus, you think your special cause they asked you to market their site? There a bunch of idiots, nothing about this company makes sense.

dmorris68

18-01-2009 19:27:59

[quote926aca3670="orangejuice"]everyone here repeated offers on brandarama sites, so i wouldnt go bash people too far here[/quote926aca3670]
roll

Funny how some people seem to think that everyone repeats offers. It's usually those who are guilty that like to cling to that theory. You aren't the first, and unfortunately won't be the last I'm sure, to be so presumptuous.

Here's a news flash many of us DON'T cheat the system.

orangejuice

18-01-2009 19:55:53

are you 40+ ?

HYPE.

18-01-2009 21:07:16

Mbulelo, you're a joke. Brandarama has a small amount of offers, I've done about 3 of their sites and I have trouble finding offers to do. 84 sites for $60k in one month without any fraud isn't possible. They simply don't even have that many offers, I doubt they even have more than 100 if even that many, and they also don't rotate offers often enough to continuously do sites that fast.

And besides offers completed multiple times, there's no way you can say you actually wanted to try all 84 sites worth of offers because you wanted them. It's you frauding morons who killed freebie sites and ruined it for everyone else. I'd suggest that dmorris get his IP and send Kim a link to this thread and see what she has to say about this.

RyanG

18-01-2009 21:34:34

[quotec2b8d84c0a="dmorris68"][quotec2b8d84c0a="orangejuice"]everyone here repeated offers on brandarama sites, so i wouldnt go bash people too far here[/quotec2b8d84c0a]
roll

Funny how some people seem to think that everyone repeats offers. It's usually those who are guilty that like to cling to that theory. You aren't the first, and unfortunately won't be the last I'm sure, to be so presumptuous.

Here's a news flash many of us DON'T cheat the system.[/quotec2b8d84c0a]

i'd like to give this guy the benefit of the doubt but $60K and 84 different gifts? c'mon, stop trying to see the absolute good in everyone. that's straight up cheating the system.

slambam

18-01-2009 22:10:56

Yea, I had like 5-6 gifts CTS late 07-early 08, and was just about out of offers, and all were 3 offer sites. I did some more after offers changed later on in 08, but that many gifts in such a short amount of time is just ridiculous. But, whatever floats your boat I guess. And orangejuice, I do think your wrong. I'm sure some people do, but "everyone"? Yea right.

dubbin87

18-01-2009 23:08:19

[quote3379e76656="HYPE."] I'd suggest that dmorris get his IP and send Kim a link to this thread and see what she has to say about this.[/quote3379e76656]

All she'd be able to say is we're sorry we are experiancing huge delays in shipping, we are currently on the Aug list for Visas and finishing up Oct for all others.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Kim


lol

bruman

19-01-2009 01:07:14

The fact that Brandarama has been very lenient and, from what I've read, never DQ'd anyone is probably one of their pitfalls and cause for the delay. Selfish and immoral people like Mbulelo try to take advantage of and cheat the system. When someone does this it hurts ALL of us and much of these actions are causing the death of the freebie scene.

steveyankee

19-01-2009 06:32:36

In for dmorris sending Kim his IP.

wiebelhaus03

19-01-2009 08:43:57

agreed.....i doubt she could do anything but that guy is just a dumbass and pisses me off

dmorris68

19-01-2009 09:29:04

[quote8b2a479eff="orangejuice"]are you 40+ ?[/quote8b2a479eff]
What the hell kind of question is that? Deflect much? roll

[quote8b2a479eff="RyanG"][quote8b2a479eff="dmorris68"][quote8b2a479eff="orangejuice"]everyone here repeated offers on brandarama sites, so i wouldnt go bash people too far here[/quote8b2a479eff]
roll

Funny how some people seem to think that everyone repeats offers. It's usually those who are guilty that like to cling to that theory. You aren't the first, and unfortunately won't be the last I'm sure, to be so presumptuous.

Here's a news flash many of us DON'T cheat the system.[/quote8b2a479eff]

i'd like to give this guy the benefit of the doubt but $60K and 84 different gifts? c'mon, stop trying to see the absolute good in everyone. that's straight up cheating the system.[/quote8b2a479eff]
Let me be clear my post was in reply to orangejuice's "everyone here has repeated offers" comment. I was in no way defending Mbuelo -- in fact I have no doubt that someone who claims (if even true) to have received $60K in one year has repeated offers, walked others through, etc.

Regarding me contacting Kim with his IP, I don't normally go around investigating people for simply claiming a ridiculous payout that is likely the result of fraud if true, but without any real proof of either the legitimacy of his payout claim or that fraud actually occurred. Only if they're scamming members or site owners here, or maybe if I had an ongoing rapport with them like I had with I-Deal in the past, would I normally get involved or bring it up. That said, I'm noting Mbulelo's IP addresse(s) should the need to take it further ever arise.

HYPE.

19-01-2009 10:52:37

Glad to hear you at least took it down. While this thread may not have much proof, if Kim actually looks into his account(s) I'm sure there will either be nothing close to what he claims there to be CTS, or just tons of repeated offers, which will prove he's a fraud.

wiebelhaus03

19-01-2009 17:17:40

he most likely used many multiple email addresses, with a dynamic ip address, as brandarama will not credit an offer if it's been done on their site with the same email addy....

oleus

19-01-2009 17:24:07

just curious - when was the last time someone on this forum received an october 07 card of any sort?

Eeyore

19-01-2009 18:07:09

[quote7a796d3c89="wiebelhaus03"]he most likely used many multiple email addresses, with a dynamic ip address, as brandarama will not credit an offer if it's been done on their site with the same email addy....[/quote7a796d3c89]
He's also need multiple mailing addresses and multiple social security numbers and multiple names, etc., if he is indeed CTS for that amount.

I call BS, and since I'm an old fart, I win! 8)

bruman

19-01-2009 19:44:32

[quote04f2a45a6d="oleus"]just curious - when was the last time someone on this forum received an october 07 card of any sort?[/quote04f2a45a6d]

A week or two ago a lot of people got their Best Buy and Sears

FreeOffersNow

19-01-2009 20:02:01

Alright, I think we've given the self-absorbed spooge enough attention. Chances are he's done a bit of story-telling to get us to pay him some, and now that we have...I say we go back to ignoring him as I'm sure the rest of the world has done his entire life.

I'll admit I'm primarily to blame for turning the discussion in a more argumentative direction...but let's get back on topic and make some money!

wiebelhaus03

19-01-2009 20:21:05

[quotef0398c9f21="bruman"][quotef0398c9f21="oleus"]just curious - when was the last time someone on this forum received an october 07 card of any sort?[/quotef0398c9f21]

A week or two ago a lot of people got their Best Buy and Sears[/quotef0398c9f21]

i believe that was november but not completely sure

massman

19-01-2009 23:00:02

[quote25ff341845="wiebelhaus03"][quote25ff341845="bruman"][quote25ff341845="oleus"]just curious - when was the last time someone on this forum received an october 07 card of any sort?[/quote25ff341845]

A week or two ago a lot of people got their Best Buy and Sears[/quote25ff341845]

i believe that was november but not completely sure[/quote25ff341845]

a handful got cards last week ish of December iirc

Daggoth

20-01-2009 22:02:56

When Freepay was taking forever to ship gifts, egyptianriun(?) compiled a list of users with date of CTS, first letter of last name on the account, and current status for each individual site. Granted it was only one or two sites, would that be possible now?

RolltheStampede

21-01-2009 08:18:14

we have tried that but there is no real logic to the way they are shipping gifts.

manOFice

21-01-2009 10:07:47

yeah I think their shipping by site currently ... i'm still waiting on a Oct 500 amex but mean while people from nov and a few from dec are receiving stuff from other sites

RolltheStampede

21-01-2009 11:48:45

ANyone recieve anything from the main site, brandarama.com lately. Im waiting on a december gift.

and friends are still waiting on november visas

livingloud28

21-01-2009 12:28:01

Absolutly nothing Grrrr !

viperklt21

21-01-2009 12:47:38

Well as I mentioned before... I think the problem with our amexs is that they started replacing the visa's with amexs.

ashilef

21-01-2009 15:24:42

[quote3838d039ce="manOFice"]yeah I think their shipping by site currently ... i'm still waiting on a Oct 500 amex but mean while people from nov and a few from dec are receiving stuff from other sites[/quote3838d039ce]

That's what I was trying to explain to some people here, but they didn't get it. I also think they ship by site/domain. Me personally I'm waiting on gifts from YTB and Brandarama, and I haven't heard of anybody receiving gifts from the "main" site in a long time.

oleus

21-01-2009 16:23:28

[quoteed02f19097="ashilef"][quoteed02f19097="manOFice"]yeah I think their shipping by site currently ... i'm still waiting on a Oct 500 amex but mean while people from nov and a few from dec are receiving stuff from other sites[/quoteed02f19097]

That's what I was trying to explain to some people here, but they didn't get it. I also think they ship by site/domain. Me personally I'm waiting on gifts from YTB and Brandarama, and I haven't heard of anybody receiving gifts from the "main" site in a long time.[/quoteed02f19097]

Those two main sites are the ones I'm waiting for as well.

dougp70

22-01-2009 07:43:43

Got this response yesterday

Thank you for contacting us.

I apologize, but we are not currently substituting or expediting and gifts at this time. We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the August 2007 mailing list for the visa gift cards and the October/November 2007 mailing list for all other gifts

We do not know the status of your gift. It will ship once your confirmed to be ship date and name are reached on our shipping list. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your continued patience.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Holly
USASurveyGroup Member Support

RolltheStampede

22-01-2009 08:38:39

S.S.D.D

ashilef

22-01-2009 10:20:45

[quote2d41013011="dougp70"]Got this response yesterday

Thank you for contacting us.

I apologize, but we are not currently substituting or expediting and gifts at this time. We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the August 2007 mailing list for the visa gift cards and the October/November 2007 mailing list for all other gifts

We do not know the status of your gift. It will ship once your confirmed to be ship date and name are reached on our shipping list. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your continued patience.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Holly
USASurveyGroup Member Support[/quote2d41013011]

There is nothing new in this email...

soccerbud

22-01-2009 14:29:17

did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.

lovergirl24

22-01-2009 14:47:47

[quotebc709b7930="soccerbud"]did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.[/quotebc709b7930]

Yes, I received a letter in the mail today for the $500 Best Buy Card & Weber Grill.

manOFice

22-01-2009 14:50:16

[quoteb188cef74c="soccerbud"]did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.[/quoteb188cef74c]

wholey shit... If I receive something like that I will flip .. .seriously.url==http://=http:///url

soccerbud

22-01-2009 14:52:37

[quote14160de526="manOFice"][quote14160de526="soccerbud"]did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.[/quote14160de526]

wholey shit... If I receive something like that I will flip .. .seriously.url==http://=http:///url[/quote14160de526]

Will flip in a good way or a bad way? p

manOFice

22-01-2009 14:53:35

[quotefc4ccef5d5="soccerbud"][quotefc4ccef5d5="manOFice"][quotefc4ccef5d5="soccerbud"]did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.[/quotefc4ccef5d5]

wholey shit... If I receive something like that I will flip .. .seriously.url==http://=http:///url[/quotefc4ccef5d5]

Will flip in a good way or a bad way? p[/quotefc4ccef5d5]

BAD

soccerbud

22-01-2009 14:59:16

[quotea86eea1ec4="manOFice"][quotea86eea1ec4="soccerbud"][quotea86eea1ec4="manOFice"][quotea86eea1ec4="soccerbud"]did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.[/quotea86eea1ec4]

wholey shit... If I receive something like that I will flip .. .seriously.url==http://=http:///url[/quotea86eea1ec4]

Will flip in a good way or a bad way? p[/quotea86eea1ec4]

BAD[/quotea86eea1ec4]

rofl

I feel both good and bad about the situation.

1) I feel good b'c I don't have to wait another N months to receive my stuff from brandarama

2) I feel bad b'c I don't want to shell out my own money and have to wait 8-10 weeks for reimbursement. Also, there is the possibility that Mpell will screw me over.

what to do ...

mariners1999

22-01-2009 15:18:35

I wonder if this has to do with the "merger" buyout that they
went through last month.......... hummmmmmmmmmm.........

I don't know if I would take them up on the offer until I emailed
Kim or someone at Brandarama to ask what is going on. Will be
interesting to see if that throws Kim for a loop.

M

oleus

22-01-2009 15:27:09

[quotee34cef39df="lovergirl24"][quotee34cef39df="soccerbud"]did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.[/quotee34cef39df]

Yes, I received a letter in the mail today for the $500 Best Buy Card & Weber Grill.[/quotee34cef39df]

Sounds super fishy to me. Spend the money and then wait for the refund?

soccerbud

22-01-2009 15:31:23

Just called Mpell solutions to clear some things up.

They will only redeem 1 item per gift certificate.
So if your gift certificate is good for $1000, Mpell will only reimbursed 1 purchased item for up to $1000.

For example, if you buy 4 nintendo wiis at $250 a piece, you will receive reimbursement for only $250. And you have 30 days from 1.26.2009 to make your purchase (for me at least).

This is not good for those that received multiple gift receipts b'c it means that you will have to spend a lot of $$$ out of your own pocket.

soccerbud

22-01-2009 15:32:46

just emailed kim and we will hear the official word from brandarama

soccerbud

22-01-2009 15:33:11

[quoteeb7a8e787e="oleus"][quoteeb7a8e787e="lovergirl24"][quoteeb7a8e787e="soccerbud"]did anyone receive letters from a company called Mpell on behalf of brandarama? Basically, the letter asked me to purchase anything up to the value of my gift from Brandarama ($1000 visa gift card).

I can then submit my receipt (for whatever I purchased) to Mopell, and they will reimbursed me within 8-10 weeks.

I have 30 days from 1/26/2009 to make the purchase.[/quoteeb7a8e787e]

Yes, I received a letter in the mail today for the $500 Best Buy Card & Weber Grill.[/quoteeb7a8e787e]

Sounds super fishy to me. Spend the money and then wait for the refund?[/quoteeb7a8e787e]

yup, basically

oleus

22-01-2009 15:40:04

I'm sorry guys but this seems like terrible news for those of us waiting on cards - why would they send us cards with this new offer dangling over the cards that haven't shipped??????

mariners1999

22-01-2009 15:50:25

[quoted90345ef5b="oleus"]I'm sorry guys but this seems like terrible news for those of us waiting on cards - why would they send us cards with this new offer dangling over the cards that haven't shipped??????[/quoted90345ef5b]

I am not so sure this is a "bad" thing...... There are a ton of people that have written off the idea of even getting anything from brandarama. Would be a GREAT deal for people if they are going to catch everyone up and send these offers to EVERYONE that is CTS from now until Dec 2008..... I am sure I could find a few items to buy for 500 a piece or 1000 each.... If I don't need them I can resell them on Ebay for almost full price.

M

soccerbud

22-01-2009 15:54:20

[quote5d77e215a1="mariners1999"][quote5d77e215a1="oleus"]I'm sorry guys but this seems like terrible news for those of us waiting on cards - why would they send us cards with this new offer dangling over the cards that haven't shipped??????[/quote5d77e215a1]

I am not so sure this is a "bad" thing...... There are a ton of people that have written off the idea of even getting anything from brandarama. Would be a GREAT deal for people if they are going to catch everyone up and send these offers to EVERYONE that is CTS from now until Dec 2008..... I am sure I could find a few items to buy for 500 a piece or 1000 each.... If I don't need them I can resell them on Ebay for almost full price.

M[/quote5d77e215a1]

This is good news in the sense that people are going to finally receive what they signed up for. However, there is the issue with Mpell Solutions. No one knows its reputation and how stringent it is regarding redemptioning your gift certificate.

They could be like Ideal and be really stringent about every minute details or be like brandarama and fairly easy going

hum1m9e8r8b

22-01-2009 16:01:11

Well Mpell Solutions is BBB accredited, so that's a plus. Were those of you who received these letters CTS November?

soccerbud

22-01-2009 16:12:27

[quotee1393a9457="hum1m9e8r8b"]Well Mpell Solutions is BBB accredited, so that's a plus. Were those of you who received these letters CTS November?[/quotee1393a9457] I received letters from all the sites that i am CTS even the Mac Mini that i did earlier this spring/summer.

manOFice

22-01-2009 16:15:30

Sorry but I don't have 1000's of dollars to front this company so if I get this letter its going in the trash and ill be contacting brandarama

tiffrnwhitney

22-01-2009 16:25:11

I wonder if they are banking on people not having the money to front the gifts and than not cashing in for a reimbursement. Hmmmm, just doesn't sound right. They should just mail a check in the first place to us.

soccerbud

22-01-2009 16:53:30

the gentleman with over 60k in gifts with brandarama might be in trouble if fronting up money for these gift certificates is the only option.

wiebelhaus03

22-01-2009 16:55:33

[quote54735eb0e6="soccerbud"]the gentleman with over 60k in gifts with brandarama might be in trouble if fronting up money for these gift certificates is the only option.[/quote54735eb0e6]

hahaha the only upside to this

Zags1199

22-01-2009 16:58:30

Yeah, there's no way I'm accepting this if they send me a letter.

sexualintellectual

22-01-2009 17:06:52

Can't we just buy our own prepaid cards/checks and send them the receipts? At least I won't have $4k worth of junk and be stuck with the bill if for some reason they don't follow through. Also, the letter doesn't say anything about 8-10 weeks being a "target date" does it? It really irks me that Brandarama still claims this in their FAQs...

soccerbud

22-01-2009 17:17:14

[quoteea41cb8ba8="sexualintellectual"]Can't we just buy our own prepaid cards/checks and send them the receipts? At least I won't have $4k worth of junk and be stuck with the bill if for some reason they don't follow through. Also, the letter doesn't say anything about 8-10 weeks being a "target date" does it? It really irks me that Brandarama still claims this in their FAQs...[/quoteea41cb8ba8] that could be an option. However, it may draw a redflag from Mpell when all your receipts show purchases for prepaid cards.

Once again, it all depends on how stringent/anal Mpell is.
I emailed Kim about Mpell and hopefully she will reply soon.

oleus

22-01-2009 17:28:18

[quotef6c260f151="tiffrnwhitney"]I wonder if they are banking on people not having the money to front the gifts and than not cashing in for a reimbursement. Hmmmm, just doesn't sound right. They should just mail a check in the first place to us.[/quotef6c260f151]


i think this post nailed it EXACTLY. this is why i am convinced this is BAD news for a lot of us waiting on cards who don't want to take part in this new offer.

plus, how to do we know we'd get reimbursed in 8-10 weeks? these brandarama cards were supposed to be mailed in "4-6 weeks" LOL.

wiebelhaus03

22-01-2009 17:36:26

[quote62ea9c705e="oleus"]plus, how to do we know we'd get reimbursed in 8-10 weeks? these brandarama cards were supposed to be mailed in "4-6 weeks" LOL.[/quote62ea9c705e]

VERY good point.....

zr2152

22-01-2009 17:48:07

This is bs. My girlfriend is waiting on her 1K card and a couple 250 ones. I feel bad cause this is her first freebie experience.

She definitely does not have the money to front. Also, how come some people received gifts recently and others received a letter?


FISHY.

mariners1999

22-01-2009 17:48:26

[quote3ad923751c="wiebelhaus03"][quote3ad923751c="oleus"]plus, how to do we know we'd get reimbursed in 8-10 weeks? these brandarama cards were supposed to be mailed in "4-6 weeks" LOL.[/quote3ad923751c]


VERY good point.....[/quote3ad923751c]

I guess I was just excited that maybe they decided to "outsource" the fulfillment of the gifts to this new company. I have 2 gift cards that are CTS in March 2008 so I figured I would not get those for 12 months..... This (if it proves to be correct) would be a good use of my tax return. Buy the items from Lowes and Sears I was going to buy anyway and get the money in a few months rather than a few years or never.... I try to be optimistic about developments like this....

guess we will see........ ?

zr2152

22-01-2009 17:49:52

http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

That is fucked up.

oleus

22-01-2009 18:23:18

[quote0eae023e34="zr2152"]http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

That is fucked up.[/quote0eae023e34]

that's some of the funniest/sad looking photoshopping i've ever seen. doesn't give me much faith in MPELL.

look at how they put the cards over that really washed up picture of the lady to make it look like she's holding them, but you can't even see her fingers!

no thanks to this offer. Brandarama/YTB, you'd better still send us cards because this is BS!!!!

oleus

oleus

22-01-2009 18:24:25

[quote667caf739f="zr2152"]This is bs. My girlfriend is waiting on her 1K card and a couple 250 ones. I feel bad cause this is her first freebie experience.

She definitely does not have the money to front. Also, how come some people received gifts recently and others received a letter?


FISHY.[/quote667caf739f]

i hope that the people who ridiculed those of us who were doubting whether we would ever get our cards might have a change of heart now.

soccerbud

22-01-2009 18:54:26

,,,

zr2152

22-01-2009 19:01:55

We should all just chill and wait till we hear back from Brandarama.

orangejuice

22-01-2009 19:02:55

this may be a scam, really weird. what a joke..

beerman

22-01-2009 19:04:10

Here is an idea, why not buy a $1000 item, copy the receipt and send it in, then return the item, you get a $1000 check then.......I much rather do this than try to sell a mac mini I don't even need...just an idea....

soccerbud

22-01-2009 19:06:16

[quotef39ab8b85f="beerman"]Here is an idea, why not buy a $1000 item, copy the receipt and send it in, then return the item, you get a $1000 check then.......I much rather do this than try to sell a mac mini I don't even need...just an idea....[/quotef39ab8b85f]

rofl

have to becareful about what you buy though, some stores charges re-stocking fees.

beerman

22-01-2009 19:07:05

[quote8be1bd3a6c="soccerbud"][quote8be1bd3a6c="beerman"]Here is an idea, why not buy a $1000 item, copy the receipt and send it in, then return the item, you get a $1000 check then.......I much rather do this than try to sell a mac mini I don't even need...just an idea....[/quote8be1bd3a6c]

rofl

have to becareful about what you buy though, some stores charges re-stocking fees.[/quote8be1bd3a6c]

walmart will take anything back ) buy a laptop there and return it unopened....

soccerbud

22-01-2009 19:09:06

[quote7968ae857f="beerman"][quote7968ae857f="soccerbud"][quote7968ae857f="beerman"]Here is an idea, why not buy a $1000 item, copy the receipt and send it in, then return the item, you get a $1000 check then.......I much rather do this than try to sell a mac mini I don't even need...just an idea....[/quote7968ae857f]

rofl

have to becareful about what you buy though, some stores charges re-stocking fees.[/quote7968ae857f]

walmart will take anything back ) buy a laptop there and return it unopened....[/quote7968ae857f]

Shopping at Walmart makes me all depressed for some reason.
The staff (especially the return/exchange department) is so unhelpful as well

dktsung1

22-01-2009 20:23:25

D

They required to send in ID with Your receipt.
and IT"S A PAIN

bruman

22-01-2009 20:49:27

If they know which gifts you have CTS than they must be connected with ARG in some way (how else would they have gotten that information).

Furthermore, how are they going to do this for checks? I mean I have the $2,500 check pending.

We need to get an official response from Brandarama. Those who've received the letters so far, contact them about it and see what they say. Could be their way of trying to catch up with the shipping times (which, judging by the wait times, I would not doubt that they would do).

Also if it is only one item you can reimburse that is kinda bullshit. What about my $500 Ticketmaster pending? Am I supposed to find a concert that costs $500? And my $250 ExxonMobil GC pending? How's that going to work? Lotsa unanswered questions.

Zags1199

22-01-2009 20:57:16

On the certificate you send in, it says they have the right to substitute for equal or greater value. This is equal or lesser value...

bruman

22-01-2009 21:03:00

[quotec16699ae0d="Zags1199"]On the certificate you send in, it says they have the right to substitute for equal or greater value. This is equal or lesser value...[/quotec16699ae0d]

Good point.. anyone have a screenshot of that?

slambam

22-01-2009 21:20:20

Hmm, very interesting. I just bought baseball season tickets for $5500, I wonder if I receipt for this would work. That would be fine for me, as long as that works.... I think my gifts total $3,000, so if they want to send me a $3,000 check for the receipt for those tickets, I'd be happy.

bruman

22-01-2009 21:52:22

I did some google searching on mpell and came across this site
http//www.coolcertificates.com/index.asp?

if this is what we're getting looks like Brandarama is trying to save some money.. the website talks all about it. Says they offer Gift Cards to virtually every major retailer. But it also says with giftcards all you have to do is mail in the form, don't have to buy anything in advance. shrug

Guess we'll get some news on this tomorrow.

soccerbud

22-01-2009 21:58:56

[quote9990598df1="bruman"]If they know which gifts you have CTS than they must be connected with ARG in some way (how else would they have gotten that information).

Furthermore, how are they going to do this for checks? I mean I have the $2,500 check pending.

We need to get an official response from Brandarama. Those who've received the letters so far, contact them about it and see what they say. Could be their way of trying to catch up with the shipping times (which, judging by the wait times, I would not doubt that they would do).

Also if it is only one item you can reimburse that is kinda bullshit. What about my $500 Ticketmaster pending? Am I supposed to find a concert that costs $500? And my $250 ExxonMobil GC pending? How's that going to work? Lotsa unanswered questions.[/quote9990598df1]

the letter i received said you can purchase anything up to the amount of your gift, not necessarily just the gift you signed up for. For example, for the $500 ticketmaster gift, you can purchase anything up to $500 and send Mpell your receipt. They will then reimburse you within 8-10 weeks.

soccerbud

22-01-2009 22:04:27

[quote46a2f1edfb="slambam"]Hmm, very interesting. I just bought baseball season tickets for $5500, I wonder if I receipt for this would work. That would be fine for me, as long as that works.... I think my gifts total $3,000, so if they want to send me a $3,000 check for the receipt for those tickets, I'd be happy.[/quote46a2f1edfb]

Talked to Mpell, and they said will only reimburse 1 gift certificate per highest valued item per receipt. Pretty confusing huh?

So if you have say, a $1000 visa gift certificate and a $2500 education certificate, you can only use your baseball tickets receipt towards the reimbursement of either the $1000 or the $2500 gift certificate, not both.

Also, if your baseball tickets receipts shows multiple items purchased. Mpell will only acknolwedge the highest priced item. For example, if you purchased one $1000 ticket, one $500 ticket, and one $250 ticket, Mpell will only take the $1000 ticket into account for reimbursement and disregard the other two items purchased.

dktsung1

22-01-2009 22:06:36

hi

all, in regard of the letter, did it say required any receipt or can you
post a copy of the letter?

thanks very much

steveyankee

22-01-2009 22:08:34

[quote420ae89353="bruman"]I did some google searching on mpell and came across this site
http//www.coolcertificates.com/index.asp?

if this is what we're getting looks like Brandarama is trying to save some money.. the website talks all about it. Says they offer Gift Cards to virtually every major retailer. But it also says with giftcards all you have to do is mail in the form, don't have to buy anything in advance. shrug

Guess we'll get some news on this tomorrow.[/quote420ae89353]

please don't tell me they only give us gift cards to this site lol

that site is crazy, check out their products

Customer's Choice 5.1 DVD Player, or 2MP Digital Camera



a 2mp camera!!!!!!

soccerbud

22-01-2009 22:13:15

here's what my letter said.

pg1
[quotee17d5e9391]
Dear Mr. X

Thank you for participating in TrustedRewards promotion for a $500 American Express Gift Card. You have successfully met the eligibility and prize requirements.

TrustedRewards takes great pride in listening to our customers and we have now developed an ever easier way for you to get your $500 American Express Gift Card through our new cash back certificated program.

Enclosed please find your certificate good for $500 cash back when you purchase a $500 American Express Gift Card within 30 days of the Date Issued field on the enclosed certificate.

All you have to do is 1)visit a local retailer or favorite online store and purchase a $500 American Express Gift Card, 2) fill out and follow the instructions on the enclosed certificate, and 3) receive a check in your mailbox for the value of the your purchase up to $500. Only one receipt can be submitted and only the highest value purchase will be reimbursed, up to the value of your prize. (Please see all terms and conditions on certificate).

Don't want a $500 American Express Gift Card Anymore? No problem! Our new program gives you the ability to substitute any prize you like up to the value of your prize certificate. This gives you the freedom of choise by no longer limiting you to the prize that you signed up for. What could be easier? Purchase what you want and we simply send you the cash back. It's that simple!

Questions Please contact our customer support at our fulfillment center, Mpell Solutions at XXX-XXX-XXXX from 900am to 500pm pacific time or at email==a@b.coma@b.com=a@b.coma@b.com/email at anytime. Your gift certificate code is xxxxxxxxxxx.

Thank you!

TrustedRewards Customer Care Team.

[/quotee17d5e9391]

soccerbud

22-01-2009 22:20:16

pg 2

[quote4076f5a9d3]
Your Gift Certificate for Cash-back up to $500 on your qualifying purchases. Your certificate number is xxxxxxxxxxxx

How to use this certificate
1) Provide your U.S. shipping address below
2) Enclose a copy of the purchase receipt for the purchase of a $500 American Express Gift Card that was made within 30 days from the Date Issued printed on this certificate
3)Sign this certificate (required). By signing you are agreeing to receive additional offers by email and/or US mail.
4) Enclose a copy of a valid ID
5) Mail this original certificate to x address
6) You will receive a Cash-back check for the value of your purchase upto $500 within 8-10 weeks from the day we receive your certificate

Terms and conditions of offer
This original certificate, a copy of your prize purchase receipt for up to $500 and a copy of valid picture ID must be sent to Mpell, postmarked within 30 days following the date printed in the Date Issued field on this certificate to receive a Cash-back check for your purchase. Only one receipt can be submitted and only the highest value purchase will be reimbursed, up to the value of your prize. Failure to comply voids this offer without further notice.

A U.S. address is required for delivery. By participating in this promotion, recipient releases and hols harmless Mpell and its affiliates from any liability. This offer is void under he following conditions Where prohibited, taxes, or restricted by law; if the original certificate and requested documentation are not received by the specified date; if the promotion is misrepresented or abused by the Sponsor. Only one of the Mpell certificate is valid per prize, per person, or household. Make copies of the mailed documentation for your records. Mpell is not responsible for and will not honor damaged, late, lost, in complete, or illegible mail or postage due requests. [/quote4076f5a9d3]

livingloud28

22-01-2009 22:24:52

Ok heck no I do not have $1350 to shell out for my Sports Authority Gift Card !

tp24

22-01-2009 22:25:41

What's the gift certificate code for?

soccerbud

22-01-2009 22:28:56

[quote998d28f785="tp24"]What's the gift certificate code for?[/quote998d28f785]
to distinguish your gift certificate from other peoples? dunno

steveyankee

22-01-2009 22:31:27

Bah, well time will tell what's going on.

If I do get these letters, I am not going to do it.

bruman

22-01-2009 22:33:52

So according to that letter you can buy gift cards (doesn't have to be an actual item) and get reimbursed for that.

Also, in the envelope did you recieve multiple letters for each of the gifts that you were CTS on? Or did you receive a letter for each individual gift? Were ALL the gifts that you were CTS on included or did they exclude some?

Also, did the status on your gift change at all?

hum1m9e8r8b

22-01-2009 22:39:49

I would honestly prefer this over a $500 Best Buy and $500 Marriot gift card that I am pending on. Worst case scenario is I buy 2 $500 Visa cards, send in receipts and don't get anything from mpell and I use the visa cards just like I would my checkbook. Don't have to deal with ebay gift card selling or selling an item I purchase with a gift card. I get the full $500 of my gift.
I can definitely understand complaints from those who don't have the money to front these costs though.

orangejuice

22-01-2009 22:51:04

I have a $25k credit limit with a 0 balance, i could use it thats not a problem, but how do you know they are going to send the shit..

bruman

22-01-2009 22:57:34

I was googling them a little bit.. couldn't find much.. only negative I could really find was this thread

http//my350z.com/forum/the-lounge-off-topic/375510-mpell-solutions-is-a-joke.html

and that Compass Bank apparently paired up with them in the past
http//www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/718762

http//sandiego.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=26&bbb=1186&firm=29009108
Is there BBB page. 10 Complaints, 10 Resolved. 35 Employees. And they apparently have phone support as well. I think they're legit, but I still understand the concern.. having to front that much money to get your gift doesn't seem fair.. I still want to hear official word from Brandarama Customer Support.

soccerbud

22-01-2009 23:08:09

[quote3641ca134d="bruman"]So according to that letter you can buy gift cards (doesn't have to be an actual item) and get reimbursed for that.

Also, in the envelope did you recieve multiple letters for each of the gifts that you were CTS on? Or did you receive a letter for each individual gift? Were ALL the gifts that you were CTS on included or did they exclude some?

Also, did the status on your gift change at all?[/quote3641ca134d]

1 letter for each gift that I am CTS'ed for
and the status on my gifts have not changed from CTS.

Swat1

22-01-2009 23:52:43

this is fucking retarded. i have a nordstroms 850 confirmed.. i have to go buy 850 dollars worth of stuff from nordstroms and HOPE they give me my money back? wow fuck you BR

oleus

22-01-2009 23:53:30

[quote2d9a21a271="soccerbud"][quote2d9a21a271="bruman"]So according to that letter you can buy gift cards (doesn't have to be an actual item) and get reimbursed for that.

Also, in the envelope did you recieve multiple letters for each of the gifts that you were CTS on? Or did you receive a letter for each individual gift? Were ALL the gifts that you were CTS on included or did they exclude some?

Also, did the status on your gift change at all?[/quote2d9a21a271]

1 letter for each gift that I am CTS'ed for
and the status on my gifts have not changed from CTS.[/quote2d9a21a271]

which is why this is fishy.


i can't believe anybody thinks this is ok! the giftcards are dead now, trust me. no way this would be happening otherwise.

DRay9911

23-01-2009 02:05:17

you just know she's flipping us the bird behind those gift cards.

i guess i'll have to check my mail for a couple of letters.

-dan



[quote86643ee263="oleus"][quote86643ee263="zr2152"]http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

That is fucked up.[/quote86643ee263]

that's some of the funniest/sad looking photoshopping i've ever seen. doesn't give me much faith in MPELL.

look at how they put the cards over that really washed up picture of the lady to make it look like she's holding them, but you can't even see her fingers!

no thanks to this offer. Brandarama/YTB, you'd better still send us cards because this is BS!!!!

oleus[/quote86643ee263]

dubbin87

23-01-2009 02:17:37

my question is this, I get a letter saying I have to buy 1,000 item, what if I send in a recipt for a 1,300 item?

soccerbud

23-01-2009 02:39:15

[quote7a8e0ec5e0="dubbin87"]my question is this, I get a letter saying I have to buy 1,000 item, what if I send in a recipt for a 1,300 item?[/quote7a8e0ec5e0]


according to the CS that I talked to, they will reimburse you up to the max value of the gift ($1000 in your case).

dubbin87

23-01-2009 04:06:08

[quotefbd242b058="soccerbud"][quotefbd242b058="dubbin87"]my question is this, I get a letter saying I have to buy 1,000 item, what if I send in a recipt for a 1,300 item?[/quotefbd242b058]


according to the CS that I talked to, they will reimburse you up to the max value of the gift ($1000 in your case).[/quotefbd242b058]

If that's the case, I think I can deal with that. As long as I can send in a copy of the reciept.

livingloud28

23-01-2009 04:38:18

Has anyone called Brandarma about this ?

DRay9911

23-01-2009 06:09:41

if you have received a letter, can you post your CTS date?

i'm trying to see if they are going by date or if everyone is receiving a letter at the same time.

i am waiting on two things [CTS 03/08 & 09/08] for a total of $1600 and haven't received anything yet.

i guess i'd be fine with paying $1600 now and getting reimbursed at the end of march/beginning of april compared to getting one gift card in may and the other in january of 2010.

-dan

manOFice

23-01-2009 06:33:26

I don't care how much people have on their credit cards or if others can afford to shell out even 500 bucks but I sure as hell can't with all my bills so these vouchers aren't going to work for me...

RolltheStampede

23-01-2009 06:39:16

SO just last week people get check and now this week people get letters for vouchers to possibly come in a few weeks?

livingloud28

23-01-2009 07:32:18

I donot know whats going on . Grr !

ghounds07

23-01-2009 07:58:17

yeah this is retarded...the only upside is that instead of a $500 AMEX and $500 Sears I can just get 2 $500 Visas but still I don't have the cash to front $1k in a 30 day timespan, I'm a college student BR, so fuck you.

I mean if this is the only way to get anything though I could probably borrow a grand from my parents or something, but what the heck, obviously BR has to shell out checks for these vouchers anyway so why not just pay us...

desertwilite

23-01-2009 08:01:05

You have to wonder if they use the receipts illegally or what else would they need them for?

dubbin87

23-01-2009 08:15:34

yeah I'll agree fronting the money now in hopes of getting it back in 8-10 weeks sucks donkey nuts..... Kinda hope they are only doing this for a few select sites/gifts,people...etc...

mariners1999

23-01-2009 09:56:46

[quote04e45abcb6="hum1m9e8r8b"]I would honestly prefer this over a $500 Best Buy and $500 Marriot gift card that I am pending on. Worst case scenario is I buy 2 $500 Visa cards, send in receipts and don't get anything from mpell and I use the visa cards just like I would my checkbook. Don't have to deal with ebay gift card selling or selling an item I purchase with a gift card. I get the full $500 of my gift.
I can definitely understand complaints from those who don't have the money to front these costs though.[/quote04e45abcb6]


I agree with you hum1m........... If this is offered to me I will jump all over it. I will buy an 825 visa card and just use it to pay my bills over the next month. It will cost me like 3.95 or so to buy one of those visa gift cards and I will get a check in say 30 days. -) Makes me happy that I don't have to spend the 825 at nordstrom or sell on ebay for 100-200 off!!!! If this works out it sounds GREAT! So I am not out any money really I will just pay the bills using the visa that I bought instead of my debit card which I normally use.

M

RolltheStampede

23-01-2009 09:59:57

Buying the girt card wuld be out of the scope of the Terms and Conditions. It is a FREE XXX with the completion of sponser offers.
THe FREE as they define it is no longer FREE.

oleus

23-01-2009 10:02:49

Why is anyone so sure they'll get reimbursed in a timely manner?

desertwilite

23-01-2009 10:08:13

[quotea64e1cadc4="oleus"]Why is anyone so sure they'll get reimbursed in a timely manner?[/quotea64e1cadc4]

I don't know but I hope someone becomes the guinea pig and tells us all about it!!

dubbin87

23-01-2009 10:08:20

[quote1ffdba621b="oleus"]Why is anyone so sure they'll get reimbursed in a timely manner?[/quote1ffdba621b]

Becasue this is FIPG and people like to jump to conclusions around here.

bruman

23-01-2009 10:09:32

I think they will reimburse in the stated time frame. This company is separate from ARG so their delays aren't in any way connected.

You could also give MPell Solutions a call and ask them 800.450.1575

But yeah I'm also not sure if I like this. Hopefully someone will report back with what Brandarama CS has to say about it.

imapepper

23-01-2009 10:13:38

yeah they'll send you your money in 8 - 10 weeks....then it will be 6 months and then 12 and then....well you see what im saying. Before you know it they will be so backed up and trying to catch up that they are still on August / October submissions, Kim will be employed by this new company to respond to all the customer complaints.

bruman

23-01-2009 10:21:48

[quotebc012e11db="imapepper"]yeah they'll send you your money in 8 - 10 weeks....then it will be 6 months and then 12 and then....well you see what im saying. Before you know it they will be so backed up and trying to catch up that they are still on August / October submissions, Kim will be employed by this new company to respond to all the customer complaints.[/quotebc012e11db]

Like I said this company and ARG are two SEPARATE companies. Just because one is experiencing delays doesn't mean the other one does.
And the reason I'm thinking this is the way it's going to be for all of us is because the certificates they are sending out (separate envelope for each gift), cost them money (they are essentially buying the gift cards in form of these certificates for a discount). If everyone receives one than they are, in their minds, caught up shipping wise and everything else is in the hands of this other company - mpell solutions.

That's what seems to be going on in my mind. I could be wrong, in fact, I hope I am. I think I'm gonna shut up now until we receive an official response or some other new details.

debo012004

23-01-2009 10:25:01

If they send me a letter for my 250 dollar visa I will try it out.

oleus

23-01-2009 10:32:27

[quoteee201283ff="bruman"][quoteee201283ff="imapepper"]yeah they'll send you your money in 8 - 10 weeks....then it will be 6 months and then 12 and then....well you see what im saying. Before you know it they will be so backed up and trying to catch up that they are still on August / October submissions, Kim will be employed by this new company to respond to all the customer complaints.[/quoteee201283ff]

Like I said this company and ARG are two SEPARATE companies. Just because one is experiencing delays doesn't mean the other one does.
And the reason I'm thinking this is the way it's going to be for all of us is because the certificates they are sending out (separate envelope for each gift), cost them money (they are essentially buying the gift cards in form of these certificates for a discount). If everyone receives one than they are, in their minds, caught up shipping wise and everything else is in the hands of this other company - mpell solutions.

That's what seems to be going on in my mind. I could be wrong, in fact, I hope I am. I think I'm gonna shut up now until we receive an official response or some other new details.[/quoteee201283ff]

i haven't received a letter to read the fine print, but once you receive one of these letters is there a way to opt out and still wait for the original giftcard?

and even though they are separate companies, that in no way guarantees that they will ship in a timely manner. whole thing still seems very fishy to me and their website looks mighty low-rent.

cronerd

23-01-2009 10:39:27

THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WILL THEY EVER SEND YOU THE FRIGGIN REIMBURSEMENT!!! it took them a year to send you A PAPER whos saying they'll send you anything at all, class action lawsuit anyone??

mariners1999

23-01-2009 10:56:28

[quotebbc4da8b23="cronerd"]THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WILL THEY EVER SEND YOU THE FRIGGIN REIMBURSEMENT!!! it took them a year to send you A PAPER whos saying they'll send you anything at all, class action lawsuit anyone??[/quotebbc4da8b23]

GREAT IDEA!!! roll

I have waited 14 months for my Nordstrom card what is another 3-4 years?????? I am still waiting for cash for the "diamond" class action and for my cash on the "airborne" class action and those were for companies that have tons of cash to pay out....

Everyone needs to relax..... Lets see what brandarama has to say??? I am surprised that no one has called and have only sent emails.....

M

hum1m9e8r8b

23-01-2009 11:01:31

Mpell solutions seems to be a legit company to me, especially since they are bbb accredited. Are you'll concerned that when you send in your receipt that brandarama will not pay mpell the $x in order for you to get the reimbursement? I don't think brandarama would go to the trouble of starting this and then dick around with a legit company like mpell. It's one thing when br gives users like us the run-around, but its another to do it to a bonified company.

wiebelhaus03

23-01-2009 11:17:35

to anyone who has already received the letter and read the fine print Can we just use it to buy money orders and send them the receipt for that?

soccerbud

23-01-2009 11:44:00

Kim just replied, and she basically just copied and pasted the first page of my letter

[quoted546f9298c]

Dear
Thank you for contacting us.
We are trying to make it easier and faster for you to receive your prize through our new Cash Back Program. You can choose the actual gift or a substitute gift of similar value.
It is your choice!
We are aware that you have waited a longtime for your gift and therefore we have devised a new program to expedite your gift fulfillment along with giving you the upper hand
of choosing exactly what you would like.
If you have any questions or problems regarding this new pgram please feel free to contact Mpell Solutions
Toll free 1-800-450-1575
email= email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support
[/quoted546f9298c]

soccerbud

23-01-2009 11:45:30

[quotecd4cc85ef8="wiebelhaus03"]to anyone who has already received the letter and read the fine print Can we just use it to buy money orders and send them the receipt for that?[/quotecd4cc85ef8]
the letter doesn't specify any exclusions, so that might be fine.
But you might want to ask Mpell solutions directly to get an definitive answer.

bruman

23-01-2009 11:45:54

Looks like this is real folks...

steveyankee

23-01-2009 11:47:05

[quotecdf003c89b="soccerbud"]Kim just replied, and she basically just copied and pasted the first page of my letter

[quotecdf003c89b]

Dear
Thank you for contacting us.
We are trying to make it easier and faster for you to receive your prize through our new Cash Back Program. You can choose the actual gift or a substitute gift of similar value.
It is your choice!
We are aware that you have waited a longtime for your gift and therefore we have devised a new program to expedite your gift fulfillment along with giving you the upper hand
of choosing exactly what you would like.
If you have any questions or problems regarding this new pgram please feel free to contact Mpell Solutions
Toll free 1-800-450-1575
email= email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support
[/quotecdf003c89b][/quotecdf003c89b]

wow, thats horrible

dubbin87

23-01-2009 11:51:35

[quotee12ae11026="soccerbud"][quotee12ae11026="wiebelhaus03"]to anyone who has already received the letter and read the fine print Can we just use it to buy money orders and send them the receipt for that?[/quotee12ae11026]
the letter doesn't specify any exclusions, so that might be fine.
But you might want to ask Mpell solutions directly to get an definitive answer.[/quotee12ae11026]

man there is quite a few questions I'd like to ask them, just guess i'll have to wait to see if I get one of these letters. ?

Crys2101

23-01-2009 11:51:43

This is crazy. Why would anyone trust them to send out a check in 6-8 weeks? So will our GCs be on hold for another 30 days before they begin to process them again making the wait even longer? Is there anyway to opt-out of this offer?

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 12:09:51

It's for real, I just spoke to a lady on the phone at Brandarama, probably Kim, lol.

I was under the impression it was an email they sent out to everyone, but it was an actual letter in the mail. She said all gifts from OCT 07 to DEC 08 qualify for this "deal"....if it's even really a deal. Oh well, I figure I'll use my Visa for something and just get it all back. Not too bad..

manOFice

23-01-2009 12:12:10

I'll just keep waiting for my gifts I don't mind waiting... I'm not gonna do this voucher crap though

DRay9911

23-01-2009 12:16:57

people need to chill out with the 'what if it's a scam' posts.

there are a lot of these 3rd party redemption companies out there. companies like brandarama pay them a discount to handle the processing of the checks/giftcards/prizes.

my health insurance provider at work was offering $75 gift cards for people who completed an online health questionnaire and that was processed through a 3rd company (not the health care company). the time from taking the questionnaire to getting the card in the mail was less than a week.

one other example i just thought of was last year when i signed up for a checking account at compass account for a $50 best buy card. that was also processed through a 3rd party.

-dan

michae229

23-01-2009 12:17:34

what is the stuff we can get if we choose?

"honestly id rather take the deal sports authority has crap on their site anyways"

dubbin87

23-01-2009 12:19:31

[quote70ad63a8d7="manOFice"]I'll just keep waiting for my gifts I don't mind waiting... I'm not gonna do this voucher crap though[/quote70ad63a8d7]

Does it look like that's a option? Seems to me this is a take it or leave it deal. ? Unless I'm reading it wrong.

soccerbud

23-01-2009 12:21:28

[quote5011ca5f13="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quote5011ca5f13]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.

soccerbud

23-01-2009 12:22:39

[quoted8aa4505d7="soccerbud"][quoted8aa4505d7="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quoted8aa4505d7]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quoted8aa4505d7]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.

manOFice

23-01-2009 12:24:32

[quote63b8c88ad6="soccerbud"][quote63b8c88ad6="soccerbud"][quote63b8c88ad6="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quote63b8c88ad6]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quote63b8c88ad6]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.[/quote63b8c88ad6]

How the hell can they expect users who have even 2k in gifts to just front that amount of cash? All you guys and gals have that amount of money to front?

michae229

23-01-2009 12:24:53

[quotefd60f76862="soccerbud"][quotefd60f76862="soccerbud"][quotefd60f76862="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quotefd60f76862]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quotefd60f76862]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.[/quotefd60f76862]

why is everyone trippin then just buy your gift card for the amount?

manOFice

23-01-2009 12:25:44

[quote6ab372f4e8="michae229"][quote6ab372f4e8="soccerbud"][quote6ab372f4e8="soccerbud"][quote6ab372f4e8="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quote6ab372f4e8]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quote6ab372f4e8]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.[/quote6ab372f4e8]

why is everyone trippin then just buy your gift card for the amount?[/quote6ab372f4e8]

I be trippin because I don't have an extra grand laying around to buy a giftcard with...

michae229

23-01-2009 12:27:41

[quote1fef6570c9="manOFice"][quote1fef6570c9="michae229"][quote1fef6570c9="soccerbud"][quote1fef6570c9="soccerbud"][quote1fef6570c9="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quote1fef6570c9]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quote1fef6570c9]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.[/quote1fef6570c9]

why is everyone trippin then just buy your gift card for the amount?[/quote1fef6570c9]

I be trippin because I don't have an extra grand laying around to buy a giftcard with...[/quote1fef6570c9]

aight man shoot lol

soccerbud

23-01-2009 12:27:42

[quote4cc0dcc890="michae229"][quote4cc0dcc890="soccerbud"][quote4cc0dcc890="soccerbud"][quote4cc0dcc890="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quote4cc0dcc890]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quote4cc0dcc890]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.[/quote4cc0dcc890]

why is everyone trippin then just buy your gift card for the amount?[/quote4cc0dcc890]
The main problem is that the reimbursement will arrive 8-10 weeks after you buy your gift cards.

Most people don't have the luxury to front a few grand for 8-10 weeks.

dubbin87

23-01-2009 12:28:30

Bruman made a post on FYB, it looks like MPELL/BR is banking on people not being able to come up with the money in time before thier certificates can expire....

manOFice

23-01-2009 12:28:50

[quote8a882f16ab="soccerbud"][quote8a882f16ab="michae229"][quote8a882f16ab="soccerbud"][quote8a882f16ab="soccerbud"][quote8a882f16ab="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quote8a882f16ab]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quote8a882f16ab]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.[/quote8a882f16ab]

why is everyone trippin then just buy your gift card for the amount?[/quote8a882f16ab]
The main problem is that the reimbursement will arrive 8-10 weeks after you buy your gift cards.

Most people don't have the luxury to front a few grand for 8-10 weeks.[/quote8a882f16ab]

exactly

michae229

23-01-2009 12:29:58

[quote0ccfec790e="soccerbud"][quote0ccfec790e="michae229"][quote0ccfec790e="soccerbud"][quote0ccfec790e="soccerbud"][quote0ccfec790e="michae229"]what is the stuff we can get if we choose?[/quote0ccfec790e]
basically, you buy whatever you want.
And Mpell solutions will reimburse you up to the max value of your gift in 8-10 weeks.[/quote0ccfec790e]

but if you are waiting on 60k in gifts like the other gentleman, you might be in trouble.[/quote0ccfec790e]

why is everyone trippin then just buy your gift card for the amount?[/quote0ccfec790e]
The main problem is that the reimbursement will arrive 8-10 weeks after you buy your gift cards.

Most people don't have the luxury to front a few grand for 8-10 weeks.[/quote0ccfec790e]

ok i see your point kinda fucked up they are asking people to do this when the economy is like this. can anyone please direct me to the site?


also this is freepay and the 360 fiasco all over again isn't it just we have to pay.

DRay9911

23-01-2009 12:36:21

exactly

they already have the money from brandrama, they make money on each person who doesn't send in their certificate.

it's just like people who do referral sites. the referral site (freepay, trainn, etc) makes money on those accounts that [a] don't finish the requirements or don't redeem their account once they do.

-dan



[quote0611839618="dubbin87"]Bruman made a post on FYB, it looks like MPELL/BR is banking on people not being able to come up with the money in time before thier certificates can expire....[/quote0611839618]

MattMcQ

23-01-2009 12:40:43

just talked to my wife and she said I didn't get any letter from them today. Has anyone else not gotten their letter yet? I have 4 gifts from 12/07 to 6/08 that total 2,325 in GCs + whatever they value the grill at.

bruman

23-01-2009 12:41:00

[quote4ceb9e4861="manOFice"]I'll just keep waiting for my gifts I don't mind waiting... I'm not gonna do this voucher crap though[/quote4ceb9e4861]

You should e-mail or call them and see if that is an option

manOFice

23-01-2009 12:43:34

[quotedef44b6164="bruman"][quotedef44b6164="manOFice"]I'll just keep waiting for my gifts I don't mind waiting... I'm not gonna do this voucher crap though[/quotedef44b6164]

You should e-mail or call them and see if that is an option[/quotedef44b6164]

Yeah I sent a nice email saying I can't front the money and I'll keep waiting

I'm only waiting on 3 gifts

One CTS in OCT 2007 and two in june 2008


Edit I got a response back, everyone will be getting these letters and brandarama just pawns you off to mpell now, it's not their problem anymore... just great... and to top it off you have to front the money within 30 days of receiving your letter, what a cheap and easy way out for brandarama

bruman

23-01-2009 12:51:28

[quote6face6c087="wiebelhaus03"]to anyone who has already received the letter and read the fine print Can we just use it to buy money orders and send them the receipt for that?[/quote6face6c087]

I sent MPell an e-mail and they said

"A money order is not a qualified purchase."

(

dubbin87

23-01-2009 12:53:20

[quote825dd2cdce="bruman"][quote825dd2cdce="wiebelhaus03"]to anyone who has already received the letter and read the fine print Can we just use it to buy money orders and send them the receipt for that?[/quote825dd2cdce]

I sent MPell an e-mail and they said

"A money order is not a qualified purchase."

([/quote825dd2cdce]

That's what scares me, I don't want to go out and spend money only to find out that it does not qualify to thier terms.

soccerbud

23-01-2009 12:53:40

[quoted69ac5dcb8="MattMcQ"]just talked to my wife and she said I didn't get any letter from them today. Has anyone else not gotten their letter yet? I have 4 gifts from 12/07 to 6/08 that total 2,325 in GCs + whatever they value the grill at.[/quoted69ac5dcb8]the webber grill? I received a letter that said the value is $700.

RyanG

23-01-2009 12:53:55

Only one of the Mpell certificate is valid per prize, per person, or household.

MattMcQ

23-01-2009 12:55:29

[quote123a9a57f0="soccerbud"][quote123a9a57f0="MattMcQ"]just talked to my wife and she said I didn't get any letter from them today. Has anyone else not gotten their letter yet? I have 4 gifts from 12/07 to 6/08 that total 2,325 in GCs + whatever they value the grill at.[/quote123a9a57f0]the webber grill? I received a letter that said the value is $700.[/quote123a9a57f0]

thanks! I wasn't sure since you can't find that model anywhere anymore

soccerbud

23-01-2009 12:58:19

[quote08fbd2c25c="RyanG"]Only one of the Mpell certificate is valid per prize, per person, or household.[/quote08fbd2c25c]I talked to them about that specific line within the terms and conditions. And they said its fine if a person needs to redeem multiple gift certificates.

manOFice

23-01-2009 12:59:23

And what happens when the millions of dollars mpell now owes goes pony up?

soccerbud

23-01-2009 13:00:12

[quote4c3ce9fd5c="manOFice"]And what happens when the millions of dollars mpell now owes goes pony up?[/quote4c3ce9fd5c]
we are all screwed then

figgarro

23-01-2009 13:05:36

I wonder if you can buy a visa atm card from this site and send in your copy of the invoice.

http//www.giftcards.com/product/Visa_Green_ATM_gift_cards

So you can get this card and then just w/d the cash back out, minus some fees of course.

dubbin87

23-01-2009 13:07:19

[quotee52b5e26b3="soccerbud"][quotee52b5e26b3="manOFice"]And what happens when the millions of dollars mpell now owes goes pony up?[/quotee52b5e26b3]
we are all screwed then[/quotee52b5e26b3]

repeat of 2008.....

RyanG

23-01-2009 13:12:49

[quoteb955b2026c="soccerbud"][quoteb955b2026c="RyanG"]Only one of the Mpell certificate is valid per prize, per person, or household.[/quoteb955b2026c]I talked to them about that specific line within the terms and conditions. And they said its fine if a person needs to redeem multiple gift certificates.[/quoteb955b2026c]

thanks for the clarification

mariners1999

23-01-2009 13:15:07

[quotee4a819e3ff="figgarro"]I wonder if you can buy a visa atm card from this site and send in your copy of the invoice.

http//www.giftcards.com/product/Visa_Green_ATM_gift_cards

So you can get this card and then just w/d the cash back out, minus some fees of course.[/quotee4a819e3ff]

Anyone know???? This is what I was thinking I would do and use it to pay bills........ If they don't let you do money orders I bet visa/amex cards are off limits too. ?

Crys2101

23-01-2009 13:18:52

My letter says I could purchase a $1000 Visa Gift. Those are ok, but this freaking sucks.

steveyankee

23-01-2009 13:19:53

So wait, what's the problem with buying an expensive item with your credit card then returning it? Just make a copy of the receipt before you return it.

mariners1999

23-01-2009 13:20:58

[quote501ecbc2db="steveyankee"]So wait, what's the problem with buying an expensive item with your credit card then returning it? Just make a copy of the receipt before you return it.[/quote501ecbc2db]

Another good question.... Gotta send in a "copy" of the receipt or the origional receipt?

oleus

23-01-2009 13:21:57

No letters for me yet and I'm waiting for 5 giftcards in that timeframe.

steveyankee

23-01-2009 13:22:05

[quoteee91b921e1="mariners1999"][quoteee91b921e1="steveyankee"]So wait, what's the problem with buying an expensive item with your credit card then returning it? Just make a copy of the receipt before you return it.[/quoteee91b921e1]

Another good question.... Gotta send in a "copy" of the receipt or the origional receipt?[/quoteee91b921e1]

I think the first page of the letter says you only need to send a copy of the receipt in.

Crys2101

23-01-2009 13:22:09

Why should anyone have to jump through another hoop to receive a gift we should have gotten a year ago? This isn't what we signed up for.

bradjohnson08

23-01-2009 13:25:09

I'm not too mad about this as long as I get the reimbursement quicker than the gifts I would have got anyway.... the best part of it to me is how karma just slapped that dude in the face if he really had anywhere near 60k in gifts that he claimed wink

manOFice

23-01-2009 13:28:27

[quotecf18024395="bradjohnson08"]I'm not too mad about this as long as I get the reimbursement quicker than the gifts I would have got anyway.... the best part of it to me is how karma just slapped that dude in the face if he really had anywhere near 60k in gifts that he claimed wink[/quotecf18024395]

I guess a small issue is no one has time to wait around and see if they will pull through which I think they will for awhile but people who have received their letters already, clock is ticking........

steveyankee

23-01-2009 13:37:27

Yup. I haven't got a letter either yet, so time will tell.

MattMcQ

23-01-2009 13:38:39

has anyone called the mpell # to ask what items are eligible for us to purchase? There must be some requirement if they won't allow a money order.

zr2152

23-01-2009 13:42:34

Everyone needs to go fill out BBB complaints now. Although I am not a huge advocate of doing so, this is wayyyy fucked up and out of hand.

The more people to complain the better.

DRay9911

23-01-2009 13:42:58

that isn't going to happen.

-dan



[quote608b397472="manOFice"]And what happens when the millions of dollars mpell now owes goes pony up?[/quote608b397472]

Zags1199

23-01-2009 13:43:12

I e-mailed them, and they said I would be receiving a letter. So I can only assume that everyone will.

ZR - Brandarama ignores BBB complaints.

dubbin87

23-01-2009 13:45:06

[quote6a35a5c983="MattMcQ"]has anyone called the mpell # to ask what items are eligible for us to purchase? There must be some requirement if they won't allow a money order.[/quote6a35a5c983]

I shot off a email, waitng to hear back.

ploppsdman

23-01-2009 13:45:08

If I get a letter (CTS Jan 2008), I'm going with the purchase an item (something for $500+) on my credit card, make a copy of the receipt, and returning it. That way, Im out nothing ..... that's the only 0 risk solution I can think of. There's no restocking fee at Walmart, the letter pasted here says it only needs to be a copy of a receipt .... seems like the way to go. No need to "front" any money at all.

cronerd

23-01-2009 13:45:20

THE SHIT HAS HIT THE FAN!! EVERYONE IS GETTING ONE
Thank you for contacting us.

I am sorry, but the letters were mailed out on the 21st.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support AHHHH!!!

doylnea

23-01-2009 13:45:43

I don't know anything about Mpell Solutions, but this sounds very similar to rebate redemption.

Kingston or Crucial don't actually pay your rebates directly, they hire a third party vendor (TPV) who fulfills all the rebates. The TPV gets a check/wire transfer at the beginning of the promotion and then fulfills gifts based on the check. In most cases, the TPV profits on the difference between what they have to fulfill, and what the company offering the rebate pays. In all cases, it's less costly for the TPV than the money that they're paid at the beginning of the promotion because of "breakage." "Breakage" occurs when people don't follow the directions to the letter; example not including the UPC, not postmarking the letter in time, etc.

So long as you follow the rules stipulated in the letter, I believe you'll all receive your checks from Mpell. As far as not having the cash, you have a couple of options, imo.

1) Get a 0% credit card, and float all the charges, paying the minimum amount until you receive the check, and then pay off the balance.
2) Make the purchases on your credit card, and consider the interest charges a cost of getting out of this situation with Brandarama.

ploppsdman

23-01-2009 13:49:28

As long as they pay out and it's OK to buy/return any item to use for a receipt, I say this is fantastic news. We all get checks.

ghounds07

23-01-2009 13:49:35

Well this sucks...guess I have to tell my friend he has to go out and buy a $1,000 Visa gift card which he won't be able to do so maybe his parents will front him the money too...

They'll probably be wondering why he needs to front it and then he can tell them this f'd up story...and his parents are a lawyer and a judge so I wonder what they will think of it all haha

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 13:50:23

hahaha great idea

I'm gonna go buy a 52" LCD for like 2500 then return it and send the receipt copy to get my reimbursement.

not bad

oleus

23-01-2009 13:53:55

i'd almost rather have circuit city card at this point LOL

i really don't like the idea of fronting the money on these. wayyyy too much risk of this company not paying out at some point.

JANGALANG32

23-01-2009 13:54:25

damn, this is getting interesting...for the people that can front the money this seems to be a good thing for everyone else this seems like a bad thing. i wonder what happens if you say no to their letter? i personally will take this certificate way of doing things. i have about 5,000$ worth of gifts/gift cards and if i can get that paid to me in the next 8-10 weeks ill take it.

i dont have any gifts in that time frame so i dont know whats going to happen

bruman

23-01-2009 13:56:38

I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.

manOFice

23-01-2009 13:58:10

[quote9d5547439c="bruman"]I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.[/quote9d5547439c]

I wish a had a CC with a CL high enough to equal the gifts they own me. ?

steveyankee

23-01-2009 14:06:26

[quote3193300286="bruman"]I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.[/quote3193300286]


Why start this debate?

You saw the two pages of the letter. It says a copy of the receipt must be sent. Who cares what people do with their original receipt and the purchased item. If they want to return it, they have the right.

This company isn't going to call and see if you still have the item and make you take a picture of the item with today's newspaper to prove it.

The term fraud/tricking/taking advantage of the system gets thrown around alot here it seems.

Zags1199

23-01-2009 14:08:00

I'm glad I have the money to front for this.

Here's a description of the program directed at the companies http//www.mpellsolutions.com/certificates.html

Yeah, I'm definitely not motivated to receive gift cards to various stores.

JANGALANG32

23-01-2009 14:08:40

this might make me sign up for more brandarama gifts! this might get them caught up very quickly and then that might get them to stay caught up. i still have a lot of good offers parked

sexualintellectual

23-01-2009 14:10:42

Just a word of caution if doylnea is correct (and I assume he is based on the evidence) then the burden of proof is on us if they try to impose "breakage" illegitimately. By that I mean you can do everything correct and they can deny your rebate anyway unless you can prove what you did. This happens all the time with rebates (just do a search for Sandisk rebates to see how unscrupulous a TPV can be)...

Just a reminder to everyone that if this is how it's going to go down, be cautious. I know I'm going to scan everything and use delivery/signature confirmation. We've all been waiting so long there's no way in hell we should give them any excuse to deny us now.

livingloud28

23-01-2009 14:11:13

Is there any way to get our gifts with out going through this nonsense . I donot have a credit card nor do I want one and my items are valued at over $3000 .

dubbin87

23-01-2009 14:13:09

[quotea805ac592b="sexualintellectual"]Just a word of caution if doylnea is correct (and I assume he is based on the evidence) then the burden of proof is on us if they try to impose "breakage" illegitimately. By that I mean you can do everything correct and they can deny your rebate anyway unless you can prove what you did. This happens all the time with rebates (just do a search for Sandisk rebates to see how unscrupulous a TPV can be)...

Just a reminder to everyone that if this is how it's going to go down, be cautious. I know I'm going to scan everything and use delivery/signature confirmation. We've all been waiting so long there's no way in hell we should give them any excuse to deny us now.[/quotea805ac592b]

Yeap, cross your T's and dot your I's. I have a feeling they'll try and "DQ" you for any little slipup.

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 14:15:31

Where do you guys that received your letters already live?

I'm in CT, and they're coming from NY....I figured I would have mine by now

and Brandarama says call in 30 days if you don't receive your letter...lol, but you only get 30 days to respond from what I'm reading

doylnea

23-01-2009 14:15:40

[quote808a788825="Zags1199"]I'm glad I have the money to front for this.

Here's a description of the program directed at the companies http//www.mpellsolutions.com/certificates.html

Yeah, I'm definitely not motivated to receive gift cards to various stores.[/quote808a788825]

hah, I didn't even see that; makes me feel more prescient now.

sweeedfish

23-01-2009 14:19:04

Are the letters coming from NY? I thought someone said they were coming from CA.

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 14:21:42

Kim told me they're coming from NY...?

Crys2101

23-01-2009 14:21:51

My letter came from CA.

steveyankee

23-01-2009 14:21:58

They are from CA, if I recall.

The guy is thinking since BR is from NY, so is this company.

kalinkster

23-01-2009 14:22:32

I was CTS on 12/26/2007 for $500 Best Buy Gift Card- no letter from Brandarama yet..

zr2152

23-01-2009 14:33:45

Maybe people who are cts in 07 are not getting a letter?

DRay9911

23-01-2009 14:34:04

when you click "products" from that link, it redirects to the coolcertificates.com site (where you can see the discounted amounts mpell is paying)

[quoteb6f75a4860]Cool certificates allow you to offer great incentives to your customers at a savings of 50-80% off of the actual cost of the gift. Giving a gift is a proven way to trigger a customer to take an action such as visiting a store, making a purchase, or making a larger purchase.

[bb6f75a4860]Certificates for products cost less than the actual product because many customers fail to redeem their certificate. This allows you to either spend less or offer a much higher value gift. [/bb6f75a4860]Our experience shows us that those who redeem certificates value the promotion the most. This means that your promotion dollars self target to the right customers

All you need to do is present the offer to your customers through direct mail or email, online or offline advertising, or in-store displays, purchase the certificates and give them to your customers when they make a purchase. We do everything else certificate validation, product fulfillment, and customer service.[/quoteb6f75a4860]

-dan



[quoteb6f75a4860="doylnea"][quoteb6f75a4860="Zags1199"]I'm glad I have the money to front for this.

Here's a description of the program directed at the companies http//www.mpellsolutions.com/certificates.html

Yeah, I'm definitely not motivated to receive gift cards to various stores.[/quoteb6f75a4860]

hah, I didn't even see that; makes me feel more prescient now.[/quoteb6f75a4860]

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 14:36:23

[quote6798c5c10a="zr2152"]Maybe people who are cts in 07 are not getting a letter?[/quote6798c5c10a]

The lady at BR said Oct07-Dec08 CTS will receive this letter

Good to know it's coming from CA though, since I'm on the other side of the country..lol

mistertomlinson

23-01-2009 14:37:17

Brandarama owes me $5,000 and I don't even have a credit card with that high a limit. Besides, I can't help but think, maybe I distribute that amount among the multiple cards I do have... I don't give two shits who this company is, whether or not they are BB accredited... why the fuck should I trust they'll reimburse me in a timely manner if at all. Consider, there are likely 4,155,237,001 people waiting on gift cards and checks for a combined total of $245,773,297,4345,855,234... give or take and I for one don't think this company is just gonna accept these silly ass certificates with a smile and start writing checks.

... and I'm surprised no one has mentioned 17 years ago, when I signed up and completed the requirements for these sites, the terms and conditions mentioned nothing of this. I signed up, having read the terms and conditions and understood exactly how everything was going to work and that's the way it should work. I don't think what they've done here would hold up in court. There ARE a lot of people who have absolutely NO WAY to purchase their gifts up front, nor should they have to. The terms and conditions never reflected such a detail. So, they couldn't possibly get away with not paying these people. They've completed the requirements as agreed to when registering and are entitled to their gift... no questions asked.

I don't know... if I knew without a doubt that they would indeed reimburse me within the time period specified, I'm sure I could find a way to pay for $5,000 worth of goods, but it really bothers me that this was never outlined in the terms and conditions when I registered for any of these sites. I was just supposed to complete the requirements and wait for my prize... now I'm jumping through hoops.

RolltheStampede

23-01-2009 14:37:29

its only been a few days since going out wait till a few days

tp24

23-01-2009 14:39:54

[quotec4918383fb="steveyankee"][quotec4918383fb="bruman"]I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.[/quotec4918383fb]


Why start this debate?

You saw the two pages of the letter. It says a copy of the receipt must be sent. Who cares what people do with their original receipt and the purchased item. If they want to return it, they have the right.

This company isn't going to call and see if you still have the item and make you take a picture of the item with today's newspaper to prove it.

The term fraud/tricking/taking advantage of the system gets thrown around alot here it seems.[/quotec4918383fb]

Plus, they're the ones who bent the rules in the first place. And it's not like we'll end up getting any more than what we signed up for. In fact, most will end up with less as I imagine the rebate for the product purchased will not be equal to the original gift card.

cronerd

23-01-2009 14:43:41

went out on the 21st

dubbin87

23-01-2009 14:44:48

[quote0aa6d66cc8="tp24"][quote0aa6d66cc8="steveyankee"][quote0aa6d66cc8="bruman"]I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.[/quote0aa6d66cc8]


Why start this debate?

You saw the two pages of the letter. It says a copy of the receipt must be sent. Who cares what people do with their original receipt and the purchased item. If they want to return it, they have the right.

This company isn't going to call and see if you still have the item and make you take a picture of the item with today's newspaper to prove it.

The term fraud/tricking/taking advantage of the system gets thrown around alot here it seems.[/quote0aa6d66cc8]

Plus, they're the ones who bent the rules in the first place. And it's not like we'll end up getting any more than what we signed up for. In fact, most will end up with less as I imagine the rebate for the product purchased will not be equal to the original gift card.[/quote0aa6d66cc8]

I don't know about you but if they say they are going to give me a $500 credit you bet your ass I'll find something worth $501.

oleus

23-01-2009 14:51:52

wait a sec- we have to go through the offer verification process as a part of this?

Zags1199

23-01-2009 14:53:29

So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?

steveyankee

23-01-2009 14:54:00

[quote4b8f056887="MamaToldMeDIY"][quote4b8f056887="zr2152"]Maybe people who are cts in 07 are not getting a letter?[/quote4b8f056887]

The lady at BR said Oct07-Dec08 CTS will receive this letter

Good to know it's coming from CA though, since I'm on the other side of the country..lol[/quote4b8f056887]

Wait, Oct 2007 - December 2008? or Dec 2007?

steveyankee

23-01-2009 14:54:52

[quote3b71214c91="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quote3b71214c91]

Good question. I have never had to send a w9 to BR though, so it won't affect me.

dubbin87

23-01-2009 14:55:09

[quoted939dc6e12="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quoted939dc6e12]

good question... shock

sexualintellectual

23-01-2009 14:58:43

[quote2841ffca4b="oleus"]wait a sec- we have to go through the offer verification process as a part of this?[/quote2841ffca4b]

I should sincerely hope not... who's to say all of those offer companies still have records of our enrollment if we cancelled so many months ago, or that they are all still in business?

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 14:58:47

[quoteb69860c2cb="steveyankee"]

Wait, Oct 2007 - December 2008? or Dec 2007?[/quoteb69860c2cb]

The lady I spoke to said OCT07-DEC08

steveyankee

23-01-2009 15:01:59

[quote2235d74118="MamaToldMeDIY"][quote2235d74118="steveyankee"]

Wait, Oct 2007 - December 2008? or Dec 2007?[/quote2235d74118]

The lady I spoke to said OCT07-DEC08[/quote2235d74118]

Oh ok, thanks!!!!!

dubbin87

23-01-2009 15:05:45

[quote19a4010a37="MamaToldMeDIY"][quote19a4010a37="steveyankee"]

Wait, Oct 2007 - December 2008? or Dec 2007?[/quote19a4010a37]

The lady I spoke to said OCT07-DEC08[/quote19a4010a37]

and she also said letters were being snet from NY..... ?

desertwilite

23-01-2009 15:06:42

[quotea48c1ca8e6="sexualintellectual"][quotea48c1ca8e6="oleus"]wait a sec- we have to go through the offer verification process as a part of this?[/quotea48c1ca8e6]

I should sincerely hope not... who's to say all of those offer companies still have records of our enrollment if we cancelled so many months ago, or that they are all still in business?[/quotea48c1ca8e6]

The second sentence of the letter says "you have successfully met the eligibility and prize requirements" so I would hope that's enough.
( I just got 13 letters) roll

bruman

23-01-2009 15:07:11

Anyone know if, for those who have multiple gifts CTS, you can include multiple certificates/receipts in one envelope? Or is it just one letter = one certificate?

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 15:07:28

lol...maybe it was my mistake by asking where are you at, and she said NY

it's my fault most likely, I was rather vague with my question.

dubbin87

23-01-2009 15:07:53

[quote0267dcf64f="desertwilite"][quote0267dcf64f="sexualintellectual"][quote0267dcf64f="oleus"]wait a sec- we have to go through the offer verification process as a part of this?[/quote0267dcf64f]

I should sincerely hope not... who's to say all of those offer companies still have records of our enrollment if we cancelled so many months ago, or that they are all still in business?[/quote0267dcf64f]

The second sentence of the letter says "you have successfully met the eligibility and prize requirements" so I would hope that's enough.
( I just got 13 letters) roll[/quote0267dcf64f]

13? hahahhahahha

what's the date ranges on them? maybe that will shed some light on the range of dates they are doing.

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 15:08:53

[quote5bb53085a8="desertwilite"][quote5bb53085a8="sexualintellectual"][quote5bb53085a8="oleus"]wait a sec- we have to go through the offer verification process as a part of this?[/quote5bb53085a8]

I should sincerely hope not... who's to say all of those offer companies still have records of our enrollment if we cancelled so many months ago, or that they are all still in business?[/quote5bb53085a8]

The second sentence of the letter says "you have successfully met the eligibility and prize requirements" so I would hope that's enough.
( I just got 13 letters) roll[/quote5bb53085a8]

wow, 13...really?

that means I should be getting 3 soon.

1 letter per each gift we're waiting for, that's insane. Your mailbox must've been full today, lol

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 15:11:02

So, if I have a receipt for my down payment on my new car from 2 weeks ago for 3000$, that should be sufficient to meet the requirements for all 3 of my gifts I'm waiting for, totaling 2000$, correct?

mistertomlinson

23-01-2009 15:16:41

[quote02f6537ef8="MamaToldMeDIY"]So, if I have a receipt for my down payment on my new car from 2 weeks ago for 3000$, that should be sufficient to meet the requirements for all 3 of my gifts I'm waiting for, totaling 2000$, correct?[/quote02f6537ef8]

Oh yeah, that's another thing... I was originally gonna throw that $2,500 (scholarship site check) in my savings account to go towards a car. Thanks a lot Brandarama!

DRay9911

23-01-2009 15:20:28

just pulled two envelopes out of my mailbox.

they are coming from encinitas, ca

the amounts are correct
1) $1,000 amex [cts 09/08]
2) $600 amex [cts 03/08]

and i call BS on the guy who received 13 letters until i see a picture.

-dan

Zags1199

23-01-2009 15:23:12

[quoted0a472e2be="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quoted0a472e2be]

If anyone knows the answer to this, that'd be great.

Also, for those of us who did the Toshiba computer for four offers, what is the cash value of that?

I'm expecting 7 letters, I believe.

baris1

23-01-2009 15:23:45

[quote6c46f173ea="dubbin87"][quote6c46f173ea="MamaToldMeDIY"][quote6c46f173ea="steveyankee"]

Wait, Oct 2007 - December 2008? or Dec 2007?[/quote6c46f173ea]

The lady I spoke to said OCT07-DEC08[/quote6c46f173ea]

and she also said letters were being snet from NY..... ?[/quote6c46f173ea]

Maybe they have more than one location. The letter I got today is postmarked from here in CA - Encinitas. This is really starting to worry me.

Crys2101

23-01-2009 15:24:31

[quote0ad33a5e15="MamaToldMeDIY"]So, if I have a receipt for my down payment on my new car from 2 weeks ago for 3000$, that should be sufficient to meet the requirements for all 3 of my gifts I'm waiting for, totaling 2000$, correct?[/quote0ad33a5e15]

I don't think so. The item has to be purchased within 30 days of the certificate being issued. My certificate says it was issued on Jan 26th. I imagine yours would be the same. We're being screwed.

soccerbud

23-01-2009 15:28:32

[quote2eb0830d24="steveyankee"][quote2eb0830d24="bruman"]I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.[/quote2eb0830d24]


Why start this debate?

You saw the two pages of the letter. It says a copy of the receipt must be sent. Who cares what people do with their original receipt and the purchased item. If they want to return it, they have the right.

This company isn't going to call and see if you still have the item and make you take a picture of the item with today's newspaper to prove it.

The term fraud/tricking/taking advantage of the system gets thrown around alot here it seems.[/quote2eb0830d24]

I would still refrain from talking about ways to "get around" the system. If too many people are "gaming" the system, the next thing you know, they will ask for a copy of your bank statement, a notarized form, and a government issued ID.

bruman

23-01-2009 15:28:33

[quotea40adc0039="Crys2101"][quotea40adc0039="MamaToldMeDIY"]So, if I have a receipt for my down payment on my new car from 2 weeks ago for 3000$, that should be sufficient to meet the requirements for all 3 of my gifts I'm waiting for, totaling 2000$, correct?[/quotea40adc0039]

I don't think so. The item has to be purchased within 30 days of the certificate being issued. My certificate says it was issued on Jan 26th. I imagine yours would be the same. We're being screwed.[/quotea40adc0039]

Jan 26th? 3 days from today?

steveyankee

23-01-2009 15:31:02

[quoteeea7af78ad="bruman"][quoteeea7af78ad="Crys2101"][quoteeea7af78ad="MamaToldMeDIY"]So, if I have a receipt for my down payment on my new car from 2 weeks ago for 3000$, that should be sufficient to meet the requirements for all 3 of my gifts I'm waiting for, totaling 2000$, correct?[/quoteeea7af78ad]

I don't think so. The item has to be purchased within 30 days of the certificate being issued. My certificate says it was issued on Jan 26th. I imagine yours would be the same. We're being screwed.[/quoteeea7af78ad]

Jan 26th? 3 days from today?[/quoteeea7af78ad]

Maybe that's when they think everyone should of had their certificate by, so it kind of makes sense?

dubbin87

23-01-2009 15:32:02

[quote5bd13a0faa="bruman"][quote5bd13a0faa="Crys2101"][quote5bd13a0faa="MamaToldMeDIY"]So, if I have a receipt for my down payment on my new car from 2 weeks ago for 3000$, that should be sufficient to meet the requirements for all 3 of my gifts I'm waiting for, totaling 2000$, correct?[/quote5bd13a0faa]

I don't think so. The item has to be purchased within 30 days of the certificate being issued. My certificate says it was issued on Jan 26th. I imagine yours would be the same. We're being screwed.[/quote5bd13a0faa]

Jan 26th? 3 days from today?[/quote5bd13a0faa]

my guess is to give everyone a equal shot. so they can close the case in one keystroke come 30 days from then.

steveyankee

23-01-2009 15:32:22

[quote7943f6b205="soccerbud"][quote7943f6b205="steveyankee"][quote7943f6b205="bruman"]I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.[/quote7943f6b205]


Why start this debate?

You saw the two pages of the letter. It says a copy of the receipt must be sent. Who cares what people do with their original receipt and the purchased item. If they want to return it, they have the right.

This company isn't going to call and see if you still have the item and make you take a picture of the item with today's newspaper to prove it.

The term fraud/tricking/taking advantage of the system gets thrown around alot here it seems.[/quote7943f6b205]

I would still refrain from talking about ways to "get around" the system. If too many people are "gaming" the system, the next thing you know, they will ask for a copy of your bank statement, a notarized form, and a government issued ID.[/quote7943f6b205]

fazel doesnt approve of this post

desertwilite

23-01-2009 15:33:26

[quote368230b0cb="desertwilite"][quote368230b0cb="sexualintellectual"]
The second sentence of the letter says "you have successfully met the eligibility and prize requirements" so I would hope that's enough.
( I just got 13 letters) roll[/quote368230b0cb]

13? hahahhahahha

what's the date ranges on them? maybe that will shed some light on the range of dates they are doing.[/quote368230b0cb]

That covers from Dec 07 through Oct. 08 (and actually these were just my husbands)

massman

23-01-2009 15:33:47

damnit, i'm gonna be spending close to a grand tomorrow on sox tickets, would have been sweet if I could have used it then.



random question i logged into my account and it still says CTS, not shipped or anything like that....that's the case with ya'll as well, right?

steveyankee

23-01-2009 15:34:37

yes massman, now go back to OT

dubbin87

23-01-2009 15:34:51

[quote53341fcd28="dubbin87"][quote53341fcd28="desertwilite"][quote53341fcd28="sexualintellectual"]
The second sentence of the letter says "you have successfully met the eligibility and prize requirements" so I would hope that's enough.
( I just got 13 letters) roll[/quote53341fcd28]

13? hahahhahahha

what's the date ranges on them? maybe that will shed some light on the range of dates they are doing.[/quote53341fcd28]

That covers from Dec 07 through Oct. 08 (and actually these were just my husbands)[/quote53341fcd28]

damm, that kinda makes me happy and sad at the same time.... ?

soccerbud

23-01-2009 15:35:00

[quote9e30ddfe80="steveyankee"][quote9e30ddfe80="soccerbud"][quote9e30ddfe80="steveyankee"][quote9e30ddfe80="bruman"]I wouldn't be talking in a public forum about how you're going to "trick" the system (buy something and then return it). If caught that would essentially void the purchase (ie make the purchase not qualified) and could cause a backlash.

I think I'm just going to do what doylnea suggested and make the purchases with a credit card and then pay it back once the check is received.[/quote9e30ddfe80]


Why start this debate?

You saw the two pages of the letter. It says a copy of the receipt must be sent. Who cares what people do with their original receipt and the purchased item. If they want to return it, they have the right.

This company isn't going to call and see if you still have the item and make you take a picture of the item with today's newspaper to prove it.

The term fraud/tricking/taking advantage of the system gets thrown around alot here it seems.[/quote9e30ddfe80]

I would still refrain from talking about ways to "get around" the system. If too many people are "gaming" the system, the next thing you know, they will ask for a copy of your bank statement, a notarized form, and a government issued ID.[/quote9e30ddfe80]

fazel doesnt approve of this post[/quote9e30ddfe80]
keep the illegal stuff to the other forum bited

Zags1199

23-01-2009 15:35:26

Yeah, no accounts have been marked shipped.

dubbin87

23-01-2009 15:35:29

[quote713fec2186="steveyankee"]yes massman, now go back to putting band-aids on boo boo's[/quote713fec2186]

fixed...

steveyankee

23-01-2009 15:36:09

aw lawdy fazel is gonna go after us all now -\

beerman

23-01-2009 15:37:42

So can you buy one gift to cover all the certificates? Or do I have to buy 1 $500 item, $1000 item, and so on?

soccerbud

23-01-2009 15:38:10

[quote9f1ceebc98="steveyankee"]aw lawdy fazel is gonna go after us all now -\[/quote9f1ceebc98]

isn't "07" waiting for like 20k worth of stuff from branadarama?

soccerbud

23-01-2009 15:38:30

[quote916284cf2f="beerman"]So can you buy one gift to cover all the certificates? Or do I have to buy 1 $500 item, $1000 item, and so on?[/quote916284cf2f]

the latter option.
1 item per gift certificate

beerman

23-01-2009 15:40:25

wow, I'm going on a shopping spree next weekend, and a returning spree the following.....so I wonder if we will have to pay taxes on this money? I don't pay taxes on rebate checks, its kinda like a rebate check......

steveyankee

23-01-2009 15:41:09

[quoteebbfb42c73="soccerbud"][quoteebbfb42c73="steveyankee"]aw lawdy fazel is gonna go after us all now -\[/quoteebbfb42c73]

isn't "07" waiting for like 20k worth of stuff from branadarama?[/quoteebbfb42c73]

yeah, hes screwed hs

steveyankee

23-01-2009 15:41:37

[quote60abb2468c="beerman"]wow, I'm going on a shopping spree next weekend, and a returning spree the following.....so I wonder if we will have to pay taxes on this money? I don't pay taxes on rebate checks, its kinda like a rebate check......[/quote60abb2468c]

exactly what I'm doing

and no one knows yet to the later question

desertwilite

23-01-2009 15:42:49

I really wish they would have stretched it out as far as the 30 day thing. I mean having to buy everything at the same time is way not cool. These were all dated as "date issued 1/26/09"

beerman

23-01-2009 15:43:42

now if I can just find somewhere that will give me cash back when I return something.... then I can keep all the credit card rewards too )

dubbin87

23-01-2009 15:44:36

[quote5a1af5d993="desertwilite"]I really wish they would have stretched it out as far as the 30 day thing. I mean having to buy everything at the same time is way not cool. These were all dated as "date issued 1/26/09"[/quote5a1af5d993]

yeah it sucks, although good planning for them. people are broke, might be losing jobs, tax time.....etc...they are going to make a killing off of people not redeeming these things.

soccerbud

23-01-2009 15:44:45

[quotef294c44bd4="steveyankee"][quotef294c44bd4="soccerbud"][quotef294c44bd4="steveyankee"]aw lawdy fazel is gonna go after us all now -\[/quotef294c44bd4]

isn't "07" waiting for like 20k worth of stuff from branadarama?[/quotef294c44bd4]

yeah, hes screwed hs[/quotef294c44bd4]

does anyone of you have an AE account that I can use to check out the conga forum? PM me? o

DRay9911

23-01-2009 15:48:44

i would not risk it.

i'd make separate purchases so you have separate receipts
and send them in separate envelopes.

i'm going to have to buy 3 amex gift or visa cards (one 1k, one 500 and one 100).

i will probably put together 2 separate envelopes but send them in one UPS mailer.

-dan



[quoted85f419f4e="bruman"]Anyone know if, for those who have multiple gifts CTS, you can include multiple certificates/receipts in one envelope? Or is it just one letter = one certificate?[/quoted85f419f4e]

desertwilite

23-01-2009 15:50:18

[quotee40390e0f5="beerman"]now if I can just find somewhere that will give me cash back when I return something.... then I can keep all the credit card rewards too )[/quotee40390e0f5]

that's a good idea-----Walmart gave my son cash when he returned my xmas gift that was a cc purchase. But that was my cc not his, so I don't know.

Daggoth

23-01-2009 15:51:08

So do we have to do this, or can we just wait it out?

orangejuice

23-01-2009 15:51:35

Dray, what does the envelope look like? Is there a logo of Mpell on the top left or anything? Or does it say anything at all?

soccerbud

23-01-2009 15:53:49

[quote304ad488ca="orangejuice"]Dray, what does the envelope look like? Is there a logo of Mpell on the top left or anything? Or does it say anything at all?[/quote304ad488ca]regular white envelope with Mpell Solutions labeled on top left hand corner.

livingloud28

23-01-2009 15:55:48

I emailed them telling them I hate the option so they should be getting back to me.

steveyankee

23-01-2009 16:04:26

[quote948b163e5e="livingloud28"]I emailed them telling them I hate the option so they should be getting back to me.[/quote948b163e5e]

last thing I want to do is make enemies lol

dubbin87

23-01-2009 16:07:01

[quote5a091e5a24="steveyankee"][quote5a091e5a24="livingloud28"]I emailed them telling them I hate the option so they should be getting back to me.[/quote5a091e5a24]

last thing I want to do is make enemies lol[/quote5a091e5a24]

what a load that is.... bsflag












playful

swtldy316

23-01-2009 16:08:33

I called mpell to ask a few questions. I asked about sending more than 1 certificate in one envelope and they said that that was fine. They said that they don't want the original receipt, just a copy. They also told me that your purchase has to be made from 1/26-2/26 so previous purchases won't work.

MattMcQ

23-01-2009 16:13:12

i also just called and asked what would happen if I couldn't afford to make a purchase in the timeframe. They said I would lose out on the offer. They really pushed the fact that if my gift was for $500 that I would be able to purchase something for any amount upto 500 and they would send me the purchase price instead of $500 (better than nothing she said).

Also I found interesting, she told me they are going by the terms that Brandarama set (buy first then get your money). Said they didn't set the terms. If we had issues with the buy 1st rules we should contact Brandarama

mistertomlinson

23-01-2009 16:18:32

[quoted1bbd56e08="dubbin87"][quoted1bbd56e08="desertwilite"]I really wish they would have stretched it out as far as the 30 day thing. I mean having to buy everything at the same time is way not cool. These were all dated as "date issued 1/26/09"[/quoted1bbd56e08]

yeah it sucks, although good planning for them. people are broke, might be losing jobs, tax time.....etc...they are going to make a killing off of people not redeeming these things.[/quoted1bbd56e08]

But that's the thing... those people agreed to terms and conditions that had no mention of this. They shouldn't have to redeem these cheesy ass certificates! Brandarama couldn't possibly get away with this.

oleus

23-01-2009 16:19:45

are they requiring proof on previously confirmed offers?

steveyankee

23-01-2009 16:22:50

[quote7696d7a0b3="MattMcQ"]i also just called and asked what would happen if I couldn't afford to make a purchase in the timeframe. They said I would lose out on the offer. They really pushed the fact that if my gift was for $500 that I would be able to purchase something for any amount upto 500 and they would send me the purchase price instead of $500 (better than nothing she said).

Also I found interesting, she told me they are going by the terms that Brandarama set (buy first then get your money). Said they didn't set the terms. If we had issues with the buy 1st rules we should contact Brandarama[/quote7696d7a0b3]

so we can buy a $500 item and with tax the receipt will show like $516, and that will be fine right?

tiffrnwhitney

23-01-2009 16:24:39

Ok, this is a stupid question If I have a certificate for $1000 and I go to buy a VERY nice handbag for lets say $940, will I get refunded for the tax that I get charged too? Or should the handbag be for $1000 and then I have to pay the tax? Does that make any sense? Thanks!

steveyankee

23-01-2009 16:25:08

Thats what Im curious about too

orangejuice

23-01-2009 16:25:25

I would suggest signing up for credit cards here, even if you dont get approved for the 0% for 12 months, if you have to carry a small balance (< 1500 ) for a couple months, shouldnt be more than 20 bucks in interest which isnt much.

The bad thing is i have 13k in gifts confirmed, and I have to shell out almost 12 grand here for income taxes in a couple weeks. lol. I guess I'll be using my credit card then pay it off the next month or whatever.

tp24

23-01-2009 16:30:44

Why would it be illegal to return the item? Basically, what you're saying is, they sent you(or supposedly will send you) the money and fulfilled their obligations, now you have to spend it on something and keep it, within 30 days, even if you have no use for the item.

livingloud28

23-01-2009 16:31:46

SO I am officaily out of a gift not unless I spent money any suggestions what to do !

SkatingCrippled

23-01-2009 16:36:12

[quote2c760c2d6e="livingloud28"]SO I am officaily out of a gift not unless I spent money any suggestions what to do ![/quote2c760c2d6e]

What?

SkatingCrippled

23-01-2009 16:36:23

[quote09f9660e46="Zags1199"][quote09f9660e46="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quote09f9660e46]

If anyone knows the answer to this, that'd be great.

Also, for those of us who did the Toshiba computer for four offers, what is the cash value of that?

I'm expecting 7 letters, I believe.[/quote09f9660e46]

$549

livingloud28

23-01-2009 16:38:17

I said I will not be getting a gift from brandarama not unless I pay for it upfront !

dubbin87

23-01-2009 16:44:20

[quote7a9e459ad1="livingloud28"]I said I will not be getting a gift from brandarama not unless I pay for it upfront ![/quote7a9e459ad1]

uhhmmmm that's what the past 5 pages have been about dude. you're not alone....

you can either sit and cry about it or buck up figure out how you are going to claim your gifts.

fanofpurple

23-01-2009 16:45:21

That sucks - if that is the value of the Toshiba - I had to send in a W9 for that - which I should only have to send in for gifts over $600.

Zags1199

23-01-2009 16:49:24

[quote29d45f8232="fanofpurple"]That sucks - if that is the value of the Toshiba - I had to send in a W9 for that - which I should only have to send in for gifts over $600.[/quote29d45f8232]

Well yeah, if you're worried about privacy. If you're worried about taxes, there shouldn't be any since Brandarama never really sent it.

ploppsdman

23-01-2009 16:56:34

Anyone in Illinois get theirs today?

debo012004

23-01-2009 17:05:12

[quote82aa8cd3cb="ploppsdman"]Anyone in Illinois get theirs today?[/quote82aa8cd3cb]
nope

swtldy316

23-01-2009 17:12:42

[quote1d2968874d="SkatingCrippled"][quote1d2968874d="Zags1199"][quote1d2968874d="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quote1d2968874d]

If anyone knows the answer to this, that'd be great.

Also, for those of us who did the Toshiba computer for four offers, what is the cash value of that?

I'm expecting 7 letters, I believe.[/quote1d2968874d]

$549[/quote1d2968874d]

I got a letter from them about the Toshiba and it stated $1000

Zags1199

23-01-2009 17:22:42

Wow. Nice.

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 17:36:21

anyone in the north east receive their's today?

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 17:38:28

lol someone on A4F just said they received a response that BR is on the November shipping lists today.....

hahaha

the plot thickens?

ghounds07

23-01-2009 17:48:23

the plot is too thick already (

I'll call up my friend tomorrow and have him ask his parents and see what they think about this, I mean this could have a chance in court, but don't know if it would be beneficial/if we would get all of our money + more that way..

MattMcQ

23-01-2009 17:56:40

ohio and no letters yet

Zags1199

23-01-2009 18:08:39

No letters in WA. Probably on Monday.

bruman

23-01-2009 18:14:10

Does the receipt have to be in your name or can it be in a relatives name?

tp24

23-01-2009 18:25:38

[quotedcbedda621="bruman"]Does the receipt have to be in your name or can it be in a relatives name?[/quotedcbedda621]

I'm wondering about this myself. If it's a yes, it'll open up some more options, for me at least.

michae229

23-01-2009 18:27:29

so i can buy anything I want and send them receipt right?

for example i go to best buy and splurge and send them the receipt and expect a check?

tp24

23-01-2009 18:32:05

No, I think they'll only reimburse you for one item on the receipt(or is it one receipt?)

oleus

23-01-2009 18:35:35

i guess i'm glad i'm in the market for a laptop.

assuming i get a letter and choose to do this (still skeptical) - i can go buy a nice laptop and if it's over $1000 (for my 1K CC card i'm waiting on) they will reimburse me the $1000 right?

what if i were to buy a laptop for $750? am i just out of luck in regards to the other $250?

Swat1

23-01-2009 18:36:21

fuck...so its 1 item that they are reimbursing you for? i thought it was the whole receipt...fucking bullshit.


my friend in LA got his letter.

Im too lazy to go get my mail...

MamaToldMeDIY

23-01-2009 18:51:03

I'm gonna go the 1k Amex route, and just use the Amex for day to day living until it runs out

now what to do for my other 2 $500 gift cards..lol I guess Amex as well

desertwilite

23-01-2009 18:58:06

[quote1bf8a1f3f3="Swat1"]fuck...so its 1 item that they are reimbursing you for? i thought it was the whole receipt...fucking bullshit.


my friend in LA got his letter.

Im too lazy to go get my mail...[/quote1bf8a1f3f3]

Gee I can't wait to figure out what to buy for my $2500 scholarship thing!!!

mjforever

23-01-2009 19:01:45

How can we assure that they will reimburse us?

Gosh! Why just can't they send us a check??

fanofpurple

23-01-2009 19:03:24

[quote73a626e5b7="swtldy316"][quote73a626e5b7="SkatingCrippled"][quote73a626e5b7="Zags1199"][quote73a626e5b7="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quote73a626e5b7]

If anyone knows the answer to this, that'd be great.

Also, for those of us who did the Toshiba computer for four offers, what is the cash value of that?

I'm expecting 7 letters, I believe.[/quote73a626e5b7]

$549[/quote73a626e5b7]

I got a letter from them about the Toshiba and it stated $1000[/quote73a626e5b7]



One of these letters from Mpell? I am waiting on about 7 or 8 of these letters.

Eeyore

23-01-2009 19:08:33

[quotecfe221f2a7="swtldy316"]I got a letter from them about the Toshiba and it stated $1000[/quotecfe221f2a7]
That would be absolutely fantastic. I've that and another 4 offer site of theirs CTS and almost bought a new laptop last week. Glad I decided to wait. Too bad I already bought one for my wife. Damn my timing...

So now that they've dumped all the dead wood Brandarama will be shipping in 6 to 8 weeks from now on, right? roll It's almost worth it to complete a site today and see what happens.

I've got the resources to hack through this and get what I'm owed but it really sucks that they're gaming us.

No letters here in the Chicago suburbs today yet.

ploppsdman

23-01-2009 19:40:48

How can you even THINK about doing any of their sites? Maybe in April, if this actually is legitimate, and we get our gifts I might do ONE or two at most, but now? No damn way.

This thread is about to become the largest threads on this site, ever.

fanofpurple

23-01-2009 19:45:33

Which makes me think that Mpell doesn't know what they've gotten themselves into with this. When we all start claiming our thousands of dollars - will they have enough to pay us off?

desertwilite

23-01-2009 19:50:59

[quotec0b3a72630="fanofpurple"]Which makes me think that Mpell doesn't know what they've gotten themselves into with this. When we all start claiming our thousands of dollars - will they have enough to pay us off?[/quotec0b3a72630]

My feelings too. I want to jump on it before they get into debt, but at the same time I'm afraid to in case it all falls apart somehow.

steveyankee

23-01-2009 20:37:23

[quote4b5cd28905="fanofpurple"]Which makes me think that Mpell doesn't know what they've gotten themselves into with this. When we all start claiming our thousands of dollars - will they have enough to pay us off?[/quote4b5cd28905]

I really don't think they do.

FreeOffersNow

23-01-2009 21:07:09

[quote9445fca710="steveyankee"][quote9445fca710="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quote9445fca710]

Good question. I have never had to send a w9 to BR though, so it won't affect me.[/quote9445fca710]

Just because you don't submit a W9...doesn't mean the income isn't taxable. shame on you

LucaBella

23-01-2009 21:19:20

Do we know for sure that it's the Mpell rebate plan or nothing?

Or are we all assuming? I got 3 letters today.... and there are more coming to other places... this is so not cute.

zr2152

23-01-2009 22:04:50

[quote4df602c9e1]Dear
Thank you for contacting us.
We are trying to make it easier and faster for you to receive your prize through our new Cash Back Program. You can choose the actual gift or a substitute gift of similar value.
It is your choice!
We are aware that you have waited a longtime for your gift and therefore we have devised a new program to expedite your gift fulfillment along with giving you the upper hand
of choosing exactly what you would like.
If you have any questions or problems regarding this new pgram please feel free to contact Mpell Solutions
Toll free 1-800-450-1575
email= email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support [/quote4df602c9e1]

Wait...is this thing optional?

dktsung1

23-01-2009 22:05:19

Hi


Active respond is gambling that we are not claiming our gift because
ecommy is bad and that what they are doing to save money. should go to
new york attoney general office of consumer affair file a complain.

hehe

zr2152

23-01-2009 22:06:24

[quote7b853398b6="dktsung1"]Hi


Active respond is gambling that we are not claiming our gift because
ecommy is bad and that what they are doing to save money. should go to
new york attoney general office of consumer affair file a complain.

hehe[/quote7b853398b6]


dude...speak English

swtldy316

23-01-2009 22:24:24

[quote131e5c98ae="fanofpurple"][quote131e5c98ae="swtldy316"][quote131e5c98ae="SkatingCrippled"][quote131e5c98ae="Zags1199"][quote131e5c98ae="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quote131e5c98ae]

If anyone knows the answer to this, that'd be great.

Also, for those of us who did the Toshiba computer for four offers, what is the cash value of that?

I'm expecting 7 letters, I believe.[/quote131e5c98ae]

$549[/quote131e5c98ae]

I got a letter from them about the Toshiba and it stated $1000[/quote131e5c98ae]



One of these letters from Mpell? I am waiting on about 7 or 8 of these letters.[/quote131e5c98ae]

Yes,the letter was from Mpell.

Cromwell44

23-01-2009 23:11:42

Haven't received any letters from them yet, but I assume I will soon... this sucks..

orangejuice

23-01-2009 23:14:12

Thats cool that Kim responded with a real response this time. im anxious to see what happens, im ready to max out my card

bennyboy5768

23-01-2009 23:15:10

I got several letters today as well. If they think I'm gonna front $5400 they're high. Another thing I noticed was that over the past year or two of doing BR sites I used the names Ben and Benjamin and all 5 letters I received where addressed to Attn Ben. Where is the Attn Benjamin? Something sounds fishy about that like they're just pooling names and addresses into a large database or something. Im gonna call BR on Monday and get to the bottom of this and if they give me the run-around I'm gonna hit up this Mpell place and see what's up. I am so frickin pissed about this shit they keep doing to us.

orangejuice

23-01-2009 23:27:44

you dont have to front anything really, if you go to Best Buy and buy shit, whenever you return things they give you the old receipt back! it doesnt say return on it. Just send that one in. and go to like 3 different best buys

Eeyore

23-01-2009 23:44:22

[quote94d20e6726="dktsung1"]Hi


Active respond is gambling that we are not claiming our gift because
ecommy is bad and that what they are doing to save money. should go to
new york attoney general office of consumer affair file a complain.

hehe[/quote94d20e6726]

That's cute, because if you're really 17 they can DQ you on the spot for lying about your age.

ploppsdman

24-01-2009 01:26:37

Doesn't Best Buy charge 10% restocking fee? I'm fairly certain they do. I would speak with a CS rep from any place you plan on returning something; also, a nice voice recorder for a record of what they say is a good idea. Im contacting this mpell place, if I get letters, and asking is buying a tv valid ... is buying a 1k visa gift card valid. I want to eliminate as many reasons as possible for them disqualifying. If someone calls before me, ask if they are covering the total purchase price, ie also taxes, up to the gift card amount we qualified for, or just the item price.

Someone should start a locked FAQ thread for this crap, so we all have the same information in one convenient spot.

DRay9911

24-01-2009 03:54:43

[quotecb7d11b95e="michae229"]so i can buy anything I want and send them receipt right?

for example i go to best buy and splurge and send them the receipt and expect a check?[/quotecb7d11b95e]

if you have the money, you should consider buying a gift card for the amount you are eligible to be reimbursed for and use the gift card.


[quotecb7d11b95e="orangejuice"]I would suggest signing up for credit cards here, even if you dont get approved for the 0% for 12 months, if you have to carry a small balance (< 1500 ) for a couple months, shouldnt be more than 20 bucks in interest which isnt much.[/quotecb7d11b95e]

i was thinking about this last night, we've already spent $X on the offers, and then some of us spent $X to send the original certificates to brandarama. most of those costs were so long ago, we don't even worry about it.

now we have to spend $X in gift card fees and shipping on those gift cards and some of us will spend $X sending the new certificates to mpell. on top of that - for those of you who use a credit card to purchase something to be reimbursed on will probably get hit with $X in interest on your billing cycle. that's a lot of extra $X.

[quotecb7d11b95e="steveyankee"][quotecb7d11b95e="fanofpurple"]Which makes me think that Mpell doesn't know what they've gotten themselves into with this. When we all start claiming our thousands of dollars - will they have enough to pay us off?[/quotecb7d11b95e]

I really don't think they do.[/quotecb7d11b95e]

they did the math. if they didn't think it was going to be profitable for them, they never would have hooked up with brandarama in the first place.

[quotecb7d11b95e="bennyboy5768"]I got several letters today as well. If they think I'm gonna front $5400 they're high. Another thing I noticed was that over the past year or two of doing BR sites I used the names Ben and Benjamin and all 5 letters I received where addressed to Attn Ben. Where is the Attn Benjamin? Something sounds fishy about that like they're just pooling names and addresses into a large database or something. Im gonna call BR on Monday and get to the bottom of this and if they give me the run-around I'm gonna hit up this Mpell place and see what's up. I am so frickin pissed about this shit they keep doing to us.[/quotecb7d11b95e]

mpell has your name, address and the amount you are eligible for, they have ALL our names, addresses and amounts we are eligible for. do you think mpell hacked into brandarama and stole our info AND then infiltrated brandarama customer service and answered all e-mails citing the arrangement with mpell? maybe mpell is working out of the same studio lot they filmed the moon landing on.

if you go hit up that mpell place, be sure to take a video camera because i'd like to see how that goes.

[quotecb7d11b95e="dktsung1"]Hi

Active respond is gambling that we are not claiming our gift because
ecommy is bad and that what they are doing to save money. should go to
new york attoney general office of consumer affair file a complain.

hehe[/quotecb7d11b95e]

did english molest you as a kid?

-dan

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 05:36:18

Can you buy giftcards with giftcards?

For example, Buy a 1k Amex.
Send in the receipt.
Buy another 1k Amex with the original 1k Amex.
Send in the receipt.

Rinse and Repeat.

Do you think that would fly?
Can someone ask? I don't even have my letters yet.

I'm really worried because I should be receiving about 15k in gifts since Dec 07 up to last week (legitimately thank you very much)

I only have about like 10k to my name.

tiffrnwhitney

24-01-2009 06:01:42

That's what I am thinking about the gift cards. I don't see why it wouldn't work. Hmmm, still thinking about how to work this out. I have alot of gifts that I will need to take care of too.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 06:53:39

Or, better yet... which brand of giftcard was the one you can cashout at an ATM? Was that Visa?

If that's the case, couldn't we just do that over and over with the $500 and less and then only have to worry about the $500+'s?

I could handle that.

Right now I'm about $5,000 short on money to pay for all my gifts up front.

PS600REVX

24-01-2009 06:57:13

[quoted354674d49="desertwilite"][quoted354674d49="fanofpurple"]Which makes me think that Mpell doesn't know what they've gotten themselves into with this. When we all start claiming our thousands of dollars - will they have enough to pay us off?[/quoted354674d49]

My feelings too. I want to jump on it before they get into debt, but at the same time I'm afraid to in case it all falls apart somehow.[/quoted354674d49]


Really? Come on now. That is the last thing you should worry about. BR sold this entire program to MPELL and you better believe they know exactly what the amount BR owes is!

MamaToldMeDIY

24-01-2009 07:04:08

Good idea, buy a 500$ Visa for each 500$ gift you are expecting and cash it out at an ATM after you send the copy of your receipt.

You'll only lose whatever the CASH OUT CARD fee is, I think it's a couple dollars.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 07:13:29

[quoteade1ab4d64="MamaToldMeDIY"]Good idea, buy a 500$ Visa for each 500$ gift you are expecting and cash it out at an ATM after you send the copy of your receipt.

You'll only lose whatever the CASH OUT CARD fee is, I think it's a couple dollars.[/quoteade1ab4d64]

Yeah that would work perfectly for me.
Visa is the only one that does that right?

Anyone see any reason why this wouldn't work?
Can we buy $500 VISAs in stores?
If we have to buy them online a good thing to ask MPell would be to make sure that our invoice or whatever we get with the mailed giftcard constitutes as a receipt.

We gotta make sure we do everything right here.

By the way. I didn't get mine yet but just as a reminder... I believe people were saying the first day to START purchasing is 1/26. So don't go do this yet!

mistertomlinson

24-01-2009 07:24:22

Just got my 4 certs for $5,000 total.

WTF?!

"All you have to do is 1) visit a local retailer or favorite online store and purchase a $1,000 Gift Check to spend at Orbitz.com" Where the fuck do you buy an Orbitz.com gift check?!

Here's another "Visit a local retailer or favorite online store and purchase a $2,500 for your child's education."

I'm gonna email them and say, I'm sorry, but upon my arrival at Food Lion in Lynchburg, VA, I found that they did not sell "$2,500 for my child's education." I tried Best Buy, Target and several stores at the mall to no avail. Could you just send me a check. Thank you.

SkatingCrippled

24-01-2009 07:36:52

[quote5ab5b15a14="swtldy316"][quote5ab5b15a14="fanofpurple"][quote5ab5b15a14="swtldy316"][quote5ab5b15a14="SkatingCrippled"][quote5ab5b15a14="Zags1199"][quote5ab5b15a14="Zags1199"]So since this is a cashback program, does this mean we won't have to pay taxes on these gifts since technically we're spending our own money first?[/quote5ab5b15a14]

If anyone knows the answer to this, that'd be great.

Also, for those of us who did the Toshiba computer for four offers, what is the cash value of that?

I'm expecting 7 letters, I believe.[/quote5ab5b15a14]

$549[/quote5ab5b15a14]

I got a letter from them about the Toshiba and it stated $1000[/quote5ab5b15a14]



One of these letters from Mpell? I am waiting on about 7 or 8 of these letters.[/quote5ab5b15a14]

Yes,the letter was from Mpell.[/quote5ab5b15a14]

That would be absolutely delicious. When I asked Brandarama the value of the laptop, they said that it was worth $549. I'd poop a golden nugget if I got a certificate for $1,000.

btw, this was for the 4 offer Toshiba Tecra laptop right?

desertwilite

24-01-2009 07:41:50

I did ask brandarama "if we don't have the money to proceed with the new claim system, can we opt out and just wait for the gift as usual"
Here is the response "Thank you for contacting us.

I'm sorry, but you are not able to wait the normal way to get your gift. This is how they are now processing the gift fulfillments. Sorry for the confusion."

tiffrnwhitney

24-01-2009 07:42:10

mistertom, I am cracking up at the Food Lion thing. I am wondering about the $2500 too. My mother-in-law is freaking out. Trying to figure out the plan for the $2500. I told her I can't figure it out for her that I have my own drama, j/k lol Guess something will get figured out. Wonder how many returns one person can do before it will throw a red flad at Walmart?

slambam

24-01-2009 07:46:29

Yea this is BS. I'm in Iowa, probably get the letter today or Monday. I'm going to try fighting Brandarama as much as I can on this one. There is no mention of this is the Terms we signd up for, and we did not agree to this type of a solution. If it was offered it would be 1 thing, but we weren't even giving an option. This is terrible. Especially the way the promotion is run. If you buy 1 huge $5,000 item, that only counts towards 1 of the letters? Gimme a break. So let me make sure I have this right...

1. We receive a letter for each gift we're CTS.
2. We must purchase a different thing for each letter.
3. We can mail the receipts together, but there must be a seperate receipt for each letter, and only 1 item will be accepted per receipt.
4. They'll reimburse us within 8-10 weeks.

If you only have 1 gift CTS, it's pretty easy, but if you have multiple, this is f'n BS.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 08:09:43

What do you mean by "You must purchase a different thing for each letter."

There's a few different meanings that could have.

fanofpurple

24-01-2009 08:12:30

If I understand it correctly, if you have a $500 gift card coming - you will want to purchase ONE item for as close to $500 as possible. It cannot be a receipt total of $500 - but ONE item per receipt that is as close to $500.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 08:13:13

What do you mean by "You must purchase a different thing for each letter."

There's a few different meanings that could have.

dubbin87

24-01-2009 08:13:34

[quotec6a57f008b="mistertomlinson"]Just got my 4 certs for $5,000 total.

WTF?!

"All you have to do is 1) visit a local retailer or favorite online store and purchase a $1,000 Gift Check to spend at Orbitz.com" Where the fuck do you buy an Orbitz.com gift check?!

Here's another "Visit a local retailer or favorite online store and purchase a $2,500 for your child's education."

I'm gonna email them and say, I'm sorry, but upon my arrival at Food Lion in Lynchburg, VA, I found that they did not sell "$2,500 for my child's education." I tried Best Buy, Target and several stores at the mall to no avail. Could you just send me a check. Thank you.[/quotec6a57f008b]

I wonder what they are going to do about the tangible gifts people are waiting for? The 37" plasma hasn't been made/sold in 1.5 years, I did one for a laptop that is the same.... Wish my mailman would hurry up and get here.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 08:15:35

Sorry for the double post. I'm on my blackberry and when I hit refresh it posted again rather than just refreshing the page.

Okay, I was just making sure that he didn't mean that if we buuy a $500 visa with one cert that we couldn't buy a $500 visa with another cert.

PS600REVX

24-01-2009 09:06:33

[quote3833bf0c67="kwoodyk34k"]Sorry for the double post. I'm on my blackberry and when I hit refresh it posted again rather than just refreshing the page.

Okay, I was just making sure that he didn't mean that if we buuy a $500 visa with one cert that we couldn't buy a $500 visa with another cert.[/quote3833bf0c67]

No, it just means if you send in a receipt totaling $500 for 3 items you will only get reimbursed for 1 of the items on that receipt. So if you are sending that receipt in for the $500 gift card, you would be screwing yourself.

wes

24-01-2009 09:08:44

Has anyone received one of these letters for a gift that's CTS from OCT 07 or NOV 07? I know somebody a few pages back got one for a gift they were CTS for in DEC 07 and I know Kim said the range of dates would be from OCT 07 - DEC 08, I'm just checking.

paulyhasit

24-01-2009 09:19:50

This has turned out crazy guys. You only have 30 days and they have really screwed everyone. I myself do not have all the funds to spend out for the gifts. I am not going to max my credit card and than be screwed into credit card debt. Be very careful the terms are worded so they can screw you I wouldn't be surprised if they try to pull something funny. And I have received several for Oct 07 Nov 07 to April 2008.

paulyhasit

steveyankee

24-01-2009 09:31:21

Yeah, I bet they try to find any reason to DQ.

My brother just came over, and I told him about his two gifts and this whole situation. Since he isn't up to date on this stuff, I'll do it for him.

I saw his drivers license has his old address on it, and he doesn't have anything with his current address.

I just have a feeling this company will find this as a way to DQ him out of $1,000.

PS600REVX

24-01-2009 09:50:25

[quote9b15003375="steveyankee"]Yeah, I bet they try to find any reason to DQ.

My brother just came over, and I told him about his two gifts and this whole situation. Since he isn't up to date on this stuff, I'll do it for him.

I saw his drivers license has his old address on it, and he doesn't have anything with his current address.

I just have a feeling this company will find this as a way to DQ him out of $1,000.[/quote9b15003375]

The only way to really get screwed is if they d'q you and you don't get a gift you didn't have anyhow. If you buy a prepaid visa where you can either use it an ATM or get it converted to a check for a small fee (i have found a few where the rate is $15 to convert to a check) you can only get screwed so much because you can use the money you get back from the prepaid Visa to pay off the cc you used to buy it minus a few fees. I personally love this new system if it turns out they pay. I'll get my $$ within 3 months as opposed to 200000 years.

Sstaceyrae21

24-01-2009 10:03:06

Does anyone know for sure that a gift card is an eligable purchase. If they said no to a money order I would think that a giftcard would be in the same category. And I think that most stores now a days give you a store credit for a return. Can anyone verify which store will give cash back for a cash purchase?

cronerd

24-01-2009 10:06:28

Thank you for contacting us.

Under the gift rules it clearly states

YourTopBrands reserves the right to substitute a gift of equal or greater value. YourTopBrands reserves the right to cancel any offer at any time for any reason, with or without notice.

This is a gift substitute.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 10:07:32

Why are a lot of people still panicking about "fronting" the money?

Why not just do the Visa option? Do you not trust it? Or are the ones worried about fronting the money the ones with gifts over $500?

Just to be sure, Visa doesn't have any cards over $500, correct? Just Amex? Or should I be looking somewhere else that has higher value Visas?

VanDerSaarus

24-01-2009 10:07:47

It seems like a lot of people are hung up on the bit about buying an item close to the value of the prize. Here's what I'm doing

(1) Buying my Nordstrom gift card for $825. Got receipt A.
(2) Immediately using that gift card to buy a $850-900 watch. Got receipt B. Using my credit card for the remainder of the balance.
(3) Sending a copy of receipt A to Mpell.
(4) Either I'm returning the watch to Nordstrom and getting the full amount paid for the watch put back on my card... or I'm keeping a pimp ass watch I effectively paid less than $100 for (it took a little money to get through those offers).

If I do return the watch, I'm already back to where I was before I got the letter. Better off in fact, because now I have someone telling me I'm getting mine in 8-10 weeks rather than "we're currently working on the Nov 2007 list".

dubbin87

24-01-2009 10:08:31

[quote2c34b353f5="Sstaceyrae21"]Does anyone know for sure that a gift card is an eligable purchase. If they said no to a money order I would think that a giftcard would be in the same category. And I think that most stores now a days give you a store credit for a return. Can anyone verify which store will give cash back for a cash purchase?[/quote2c34b353f5]
Do people not read what has been posted 10 times already?

neverendingmoolah

24-01-2009 10:13:37

[quoteb52061183b="wes"]Has anyone received one of these letters for a gift that's CTS from OCT 07 or NOV 07? I know somebody a few pages back got one for a gift they were CTS for in DEC 07 and I know Kim said the range of dates would be from OCT 07 - DEC 08, I'm just checking.[/quoteb52061183b]

I have received several letters dated January 21, 2009, that fall within the date range for $1,000 CTS 10/07, $250 CTS 11/07, $500 CTS 1/08 and $200 CTS 2/08. But the issue date does read 1/26. I guess from now on they will use this redemption process and in order to be eligible we must submit more documentation. SUCKS!!

One thing I notice is that Mpell Solutions LLC is located in Encinitas, CA. which may help Brandarama get off the hook. NY has some very strict consumer fraud laws, and its attorney general has no qualms about going after companies with unethical business practices. This is the same attorney general who busted the student loan scandal a few years back. Brandarama is smart to sell their debts to Mpell because this may get them off the hook. This is a very common practice, and unless the agreement they have with the advertiser or publisher says non-transferrable it is perfectly legitimate for them to do so. A lot of companies sell debts. Credit collectors buy debts all the time and that is why they aggressively pursue the debtor they way they do.

It might not be a bad idea to contact the attorney general anyway to protect all future prospects. Good Luck everyone!!

cronerd

24-01-2009 10:32:22

[b8d3b29ce36]Honest Talk with Kim

MeKim let me ask you an honest question, this has nothing to do with the outcome of how this will all turn out, how would you feel if you were put into my situation and waited patiently for over a year and get a letter saying you had to spend $3000 in a month to get the reward I deserve, and put yourself in my shoes, a college student who has no way of spending $3000 in a year let alone a month, how would you feel in all honestly.

Kim In all honesty, I would feel the same way you do. Probably more so. I am sorry.

at least shes being honest
[/b8d3b29ce36]

dubbin87

24-01-2009 10:40:30

[quote3658bb61a2="cronerd"][b3658bb61a2]Honest Talk with Kim

MeKim let me ask you an honest question, this has nothing to do with the outcome of how this will all turn out, how would you feel if you were put into my situation and waited patiently for over a year and get a letter saying you had to spend $3000 in a month to get the reward I deserve, and put yourself in my shoes, a college student who has no way of spending $3000 in a year let alone a month, how would you feel in all honestly.

Kim In all honesty, I would feel the same way you do. Probably more so. I am sorry.

at least shes being honest
[/b3658bb61a2][/quote3658bb61a2]

In a way I do feel bad for her, i bet she's getting a shitstorm of angry emails from people every 5 min.

Swat1

24-01-2009 10:46:11

[quote15dde03a17="neverendingmoolah"][quote15dde03a17="wes"]Has anyone received one of these letters for a gift that's CTS from OCT 07 or NOV 07? I know somebody a few pages back got one for a gift they were CTS for in DEC 07 and I know Kim said the range of dates would be from OCT 07 - DEC 08, I'm just checking.[/quote15dde03a17]

I have received several letters dated January 21, 2009, that fall within the date range for $1,000 CTS 10/07, $250 CTS 11/07, $500 CTS 1/08 and $200 CTS 2/08. But the issue date does read 1/26. I guess from now on they will use this redemption process and in order to be eligible we must submit more documentation. SUCKS!!

One thing I notice is that Mpell Solutions LLC is located in Encinitas, CA. which may help Brandarama get off the hook. NY has some very strict consumer fraud laws, and its attorney general has no qualms about going after companies with unethical business practices. This is the same attorney general who busted the student loan scandal a few years back. Brandarama is smart to sell their debts to Mpell because this may get them off the hook. This is a very common practice, and unless the agreement they have with the advertiser or publisher says non-transferrable it is perfectly legitimate for them to do so. A lot of companies sell debts. Credit collectors buy debts all the time and that is why they aggressively pursue the debtor they way they do.

It might not be a bad idea to contact the attorney general anyway to protect all future prospects. Good Luck everyone!![/quote15dde03a17]

california has strong consumer protection laws...

PS600REVX

24-01-2009 10:47:28

[quote666ee87ce3="kwoodyk34k"]Why are a lot of people still panicking about "fronting" the money?

Why not just do the Visa option? Do you not trust it? Or are the ones worried about fronting the money the ones with gifts over $500?

Just to be sure, Visa doesn't have any cards over $500, correct? Just Amex? Or should I be looking somewhere else that has higher value Visas?[/quote666ee87ce3]

Google "$1000 Visa Gift Card", there are some out there and one I found you can convert to a check after purchase for a $15 fee.

Swat1

24-01-2009 10:49:44

I just got my mail...wtf. i was expecting 2 letters...not three..hmm what gift did i forget? lol

oh...a lowes 500.

Swat1

24-01-2009 10:51:56

where do we buy 500 dollar visas?

the markets here only sell 100 dollar ones.

JANGALANG32

24-01-2009 10:58:12

we owe it to ourselfs to see this through and make sure someone pays for what is owed...i know i am going to buy as many gift cards as needed so i get paid in full what is owed to me. i need to buy at least $8,000 worth.

we should make a list of what all the gifts are worth. i would love to know what a mac mini is worth and a psp and some other gifts. i want my letters to hurry up and come to me so i can start attacking this quickly.

do we have 30 days to get them the recipts or just to buy something within 30 days?

Cromwell44

24-01-2009 11:02:04

[quote919300f49d="Swat1"]where do we buy 500 dollar visas?

the markets here only sell 100 dollar ones.[/quote919300f49d]

Check your local banks, I know most around here sell Visa Gift cards, I think they only go up to $500 though.

Swat1

24-01-2009 11:06:48

the certificate is gay as fuck bc it says...Signature is required, but if you sign, you agree to receive additional offers by email or US mail.



basically BR sold us out again.

desertwilite

24-01-2009 11:07:47

[quote47a16af8d0="JANGALANG32"]

do we have 30 days to get them the recipts or just to buy something within 30 days?[/quote47a16af8d0]

Needs to be postmarked with in 30 days.

tml09

24-01-2009 11:44:06

This is such bullshit. Not all of us can afford to fork out this amount of money and wait 2 and a half months to be reimbursed for it.

kingsmoit

24-01-2009 11:46:40

I've read through all this, but maybe I missed it - if you have a $500 voucher, and buy a $550 toolchest or something at lowes, does that not qualify because it's over $500 - or do they send you the $500 ?

I'll call monday, but this seems the most confusing part to me (although the guy who said buy the gc first, then the item is onto the right idea)

Zags1199

24-01-2009 11:48:01

Does anyone know what to do if the address on our ID is different from the address Mpell has?

ashilef

24-01-2009 11:49:59

[quote7b0eb7575f="tml09"]This is such bullshit. Not all of us can afford to fork out this amount of money and wait 2 and a half months to be reimbursed for it.[/quote7b0eb7575f]

This is pretty much the end of the line for people who can't afford to do this. We did our end of the bargain, and will see nothing in return. I'm sure all this is perfectly legal in some way. I'm so angry! But what's the point, I'm feeling helpless right now. To those who have the money good luck and enjoy your gifts.

paulyhasit

24-01-2009 11:54:08

I am not sure this is all legal. we filled out the forms and we expected are gifts now they changed it. They have to of broken some laws some where.

-paulyhasit

tp24

24-01-2009 11:54:56

[quotefe0663b6df="Zags1199"]Does anyone know what to do if the address on our ID is different from the address Mpell has?[/quotefe0663b6df]

They allow you to give the certificate to anyone at any address to redeem it(although you might want to call to make sure.)

tml09

24-01-2009 11:56:30

[quote87d3f3b7fa="ashilef"][quote87d3f3b7fa="tml09"]This is such bullshit. Not all of us can afford to fork out this amount of money and wait 2 and a half months to be reimbursed for it.[/quote87d3f3b7fa]

This is pretty much the end of the line for people who can't afford to do this. We did our end of the bargain, and will see nothing in return. I'm sure all this is perfectly legal in some way. I'm so angry! But what's the point, I'm feeling helpless right now. To those who have the money good luck and enjoy your gifts.[/quote87d3f3b7fa]

"YourTopBrands reserves the right to substitute a gift of equal or greater value. YourTopBrands reserves the right to cancel any offer at any time for any reason, with or without notice. "

This is what their terms say. This is no gift they are offering us. Its not even a proper substitute. My certificate says that it will pay [b87d3f3b7fa]up to[/b87d3f3b7fa] $1000, which is not "equal or greater" than the value of my gift, it is "equal or less than". Lastly, if they do in fact say no, then why are they enforcing this vaguely worded part of their policy when they cannot enforce the "6-8 week" waiting period for gifts.

I am not going to fork out money I don't have to be reimbursed later. We have all been waiting for more than a year and they expect us to pay from our own pocket and wait another two months to get paid. This was, quite simply Do some offers, get approved, and wait 6-8 weeks to be sent the gift (or a proper subistitue). Now, it's Wait more than 12 months after being approved to be sent a sorry excuse and way out for Brandarama.

What a joke.

dubbin87

24-01-2009 12:00:40

[quote91b85ebe30="tml09"][quote91b85ebe30="ashilef"][quote91b85ebe30="tml09"]This is such bullshit. Not all of us can afford to fork out this amount of money and wait 2 and a half months to be reimbursed for it.[/quote91b85ebe30]

This is pretty much the end of the line for people who can't afford to do this. We did our end of the bargain, and will see nothing in return. I'm sure all this is perfectly legal in some way. I'm so angry! But what's the point, I'm feeling helpless right now. To those who have the money good luck and enjoy your gifts.[/quote91b85ebe30]

"YourTopBrands reserves the right to substitute a gift of equal or greater value. YourTopBrands reserves the right to cancel any offer at any time for any reason, with or without notice. "

This is what their terms say. This is no gift they are offering us. Its not even a proper substitute. My certificate says that it will pay up to $1000, which is not "equal or greater" than the value of my gift, it is "equal or less than". Lastly, if they do in fact say no, then why are they enforcing vaguely worded part of their policy when they cannot enforce the "6-8 week" waiting period for gifts.

I am not going to fork out money I don't have to be reimbursed later. What a joke.[/quote91b85ebe30]
How is what they are offering not equal? You signed up to get $1000 card or what ever, you are given the chance to get your $1000. How is that not equal? Thier terms don't say equal and greater it's equal [b91b85ebe30]or[/b91b85ebe30] greater.

steveyankee

24-01-2009 12:02:45

So, are you guys going to make a copy of your ID in color or B&W lol. I just made a copy of my passport in B&W and it's not the best quality.


Sure you can read it, but after waiting over a year, I don't want to get screwed over because it's not in color lol.

steveyankee

24-01-2009 12:04:13

[quote1d3f0b0b0b="tp24"][quote1d3f0b0b0b="Zags1199"]Does anyone know what to do if the address on our ID is different from the address Mpell has?[/quote1d3f0b0b0b]

They allow you to give the certificate to anyone at any address to redeem it(although you might want to call to make sure.)[/quote1d3f0b0b0b]

Really? That'd be awesome. Where did you read this?

tp24

24-01-2009 12:05:43

I called them

JANGALANG32

24-01-2009 12:06:47

i would be perfectly ok with this if there wasnt the 30 day limit on it. thats the scam in all this! it should be no time limit so people can do this when they can afford to.

i just wonder if this is how brandarama is going to operate from here on out because im thinking of signing up for more stuff now.

paulyhasit

24-01-2009 12:09:25

[quote6012fbd10e="JANGALANG32"]i would be perfectly ok with this if there wasnt the 30 day limit on it. thats the scam in all this! it should be no time limit so people can do this when they can afford to.

i just wonder if this is how brandarama is going to operate from here on out because im thinking of signing up for more stuff now.[/quote6012fbd10e]

They will continue to operate like this so they can rip more people off. This is just a new business model to screw over people.
-paulyhasit

JANGALANG32

24-01-2009 12:18:05

someone needs to investigate this...this is easily a million dollar scam going on. im going to do my best to get what is owed to me but it looks like a lot is going to go unclaimed. i remember when i was in college and had no money for anything if i was in college i would be counting my losses.

this could be a tax write off if you dont get the gift. not sure but it should go as a uncollectable debt

ghounds07

24-01-2009 12:34:00

So basically the only people effected financially with this are those who have gifts that are over $500.

I have (2) $500 gifts and don't have $1,000 to spend on the gifts, but with the Visa ATM way I will only be losing like $10, so not that bad.

debo012004

24-01-2009 12:35:10

just got my letters in Illinois

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cronerd

24-01-2009 12:35:55

[quote7d60668284="debo012004"]just got my letters in Illinois

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hahaha DUDE how many gifts did u complete!!?

dubbin87

24-01-2009 12:36:36

[quote8dcdf5893b="debo012004"]just got my letters in Illinois

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lol lol shock

cronerd

24-01-2009 12:36:53

so can I buy a $3000 tv and show them that receipt?

debo012004

24-01-2009 12:38:48

[quote42cd8fa2ec="cronerd"][quote42cd8fa2ec="debo012004"]just got my letters in Illinois

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hahaha DUDE how many gifts did u complete!!?[/quote42cd8fa2ec]
I have 20 gifts CTS but my total is about 9k I had mostly 500 and 250 dollar gift cards.

desertwilite

24-01-2009 12:48:09

Got the rest of mine today---that would be 30 letters between my husband and myself

cronerd

24-01-2009 12:54:28

[quote738a58a5de="desertwilite"]Got the rest of mine today---that would be 30 letters between my husband and myself[/quote738a58a5de]
^ stun

manOFice

24-01-2009 12:54:48

[quote4803a1f154="cronerd"]so can I buy a $3000 tv and show them that receipt?[/quote4803a1f154]

Yeah


And I didn't receive any letters today i'm in NC

cronerd

24-01-2009 12:55:35

like my mom always says "if its too good to be true, it is" most of us jumped on those 3 offer/$500 gifts but in the back of our heads knew sumthing had to give, and it just did

MamaToldMeDIY

24-01-2009 12:57:21

I don't think you can manofice

holy shit @ all those letters

you of all people better hope this goes through..lol

and no wonder BR has been backed up! lolllllllllll

ashilef

24-01-2009 13:00:23

For those who really can't front the extra money right now, do you guys think a rent or mortgage receipt would work??

ILoveToys

24-01-2009 13:01:25

Got my 6 letter today...I'm going the AMEX or VISA route. I've got the money to front. Actually I see this as a good thing for me, as I'm just transferring cash into gift cards and in 10 weeks I'll have a check to deposit.

tiffrnwhitney

24-01-2009 13:05:09

My hubby said that he got 11 letters in the mail today. LOL Man, oh man, this is gonna be interesting. Okay, Manofice, I am in Charlotte and got mine.

livingloud28

24-01-2009 13:10:19

Ok new idea you know of these shop at home channels if I would buy something that costs $500 and make payments in installments will that count as a purchase ?

manOFice

24-01-2009 13:14:43

[quotebbea8b7d08="tiffrnwhitney"]My hubby said that he got 11 letters in the mail today. LOL Man, oh man, this is gonna be interesting. Okay, Manofice, I am in Charlotte and got mine.[/quotebbea8b7d08]

thats odd then...

ploppsdman

24-01-2009 13:19:28

Nothing in the mail from them today for me ...

RyanG

24-01-2009 13:21:59

didn't get mine, in MI here

bruman

24-01-2009 13:26:48

I got mine in Michigan

desertwilite

24-01-2009 13:26:57

Here's a run down of what they are offering for gift items

Kodak easyshare v570 = $340.
Mac mini1.5 = $600
Weber Platinum Grill = $700.
Toshiba Tecra = $1000
Canon SD550 = $350

dubbin87

24-01-2009 13:35:53

[quote3382e3e2fb="desertwilite"]Here's a run down of what they are offering for gift items

Kodak easyshare v570 = $340.
Mac mini1.5 = $600
Weber Platinum Grill = $700.
Toshiba Tecra = $1000
Canon SD550 = $350[/quote3382e3e2fb]
I'm guessing these are your certs? I assume they are saying you can either go buy one of the items or buy something of equal value?

desertwilite

24-01-2009 13:37:56

[quote1fc0abd965="dubbin87"][quote1fc0abd965="desertwilite"]Here's a run down of what they are offering for gift items

Kodak easyshare v570 = $340.
Mac mini1.5 = $600
Weber Platinum Grill = $700.
Toshiba Tecra = $1000
Canon SD550 = $350[/quote1fc0abd965]
I'm guessing these are your certs? I assume they are saying you can either go buy one of the items or buy something of equal value?[/quote1fc0abd965]

Correct-this is what is stated on my certs and the amount I "should" be able to receive after I send a receipt

SkatingCrippled

24-01-2009 13:44:40

I can honestly say that I don't feel a bit sorry for most of the people who have over 5 letters and can't front the money. These are the people who, for the main part, killed Brandarama. They're the reason why there was a 13+ month wait for gifts, and most likely the reason why Brandarama is going this route with the offer redemption.

You cannot HONESTLY say that you did not scam/fraud Brandarama if you've gotten half a dozen letters or more. There is absolutely no way that you did not complete offers more than once, or just sign up for the intent of canceling every trial.

I do however, feel bad for the people who did one or two sites LEGITIMATELY and are having trouble with this new term.

It just angers me when I see people post things like, "Yeah, my mom, dad, friend, and grandma all got like 5 letters--how am I, I mean they, going to front the money for $3,000+ each!?" or "My god, I got 30 letters; Brandarama is trying to fraud us with this new term; there's no way that I can pay upfront for this!"

I'm glad that Brandarama initiated this new term; people like me, who played by the rules, will get their long-awaited money in 8-10 weeks instead of another 7-20 months.

Anyways, on a completely different note, I'm thrilled to hear that the Toshiba Tecra laptop is valued at $1,000. When I inquired on the value a few months ago, Brandarama told me $549.

orangejuice

24-01-2009 13:46:09

NJ here, didnt receive anything. what happens if we dont receive them should we just call the company and make sure they have us on record?

zr2152

24-01-2009 13:47:17

So gift card are legitimate. Correct?

I do not see how they can't be if some of the gifts are actual cards.

maverik

24-01-2009 13:49:39

lol, This is HILARIOUS!!! I can't help but laugh at this entire situation. This has to be the skeeviest scam move of all D.I.Y. time (atleast imo). I just got my stack of letters 2day &.... FUCK! Let's just say this should be interesting.

desertwilite

24-01-2009 14:00:29

[quote64ddcc9904="orangejuice"]NJ here, didnt receive anything. what happens if we dont receive them should we just call the company and make sure they have us on record?[/quote64ddcc9904]

Just to let you know, the letters are post marked 1/21 and some are 1/22. They may have been mailing for 3 days or so, so I think by Monday everyone should expect theirs. (Since they all seem to have the 1/26 issue date) Just tryin to be helpful

ashilef

24-01-2009 14:05:22

[quote6799c1f898="SkatingCrippled"]I can honestly say that I don't feel a bit sorry for most of the people who have over 5 letters and can't front the money. These are the people who, for the main part, killed Brandarama. They're the reason why there was a 13+ month wait for gifts, and most likely the reason why Brandarama is going this route with the offer redemption.

You cannot HONESTLY say that you did not scam/fraud Brandarama if you've gotten half a dozen letters or more. There is absolutely no way that you did not complete offers more than once, or just sign up for the intent of canceling every trial.

I do however, feel bad for the people who did one or two sites LEGITIMATELY and are having trouble with this new term.

It just angers me when I see people post things like, "Yeah, my mom, dad, friend, and grandma all got like 5 letters--how am I, I mean they, going to front the money for $3,000+ each!?" or "My god, I got 30 letters; Brandarama is trying to fraud us with this new term; there's no way that I can pay upfront for this!"

I'm glad that Brandarama initiated this new term; people like me, who played by the rules, will get their long-awaited money in 8-10 weeks instead of another 7-20 months.

Anyways, on a completely different note, I'm thrilled to hear that the Toshiba Tecra laptop is valued at $1,000. When I inquired on the value a few months ago, Brandarama told me $549.[/quote6799c1f898]

Yea you kinda have a point. In a way it's like they are "punishing" those who did more than like 5 sites in a short time span. But people like me who didn't do a bunch of sites who really don't have an extra thousand lying around get screwed. I guess I could just buy [i6799c1f898]something[/i6799c1f898] and just hope I get it back, even if it is something measly like 50 or 100 dollars. cry

dubbin87

24-01-2009 14:11:52

[quotea9679a3eeb="desertwilite"]

Just to let you know, the letters are post marked 1/21 and some are 1/22. [/quotea9679a3eeb]

That makes me feel a bit better, was about ready to strangle my postman when nothing showed up today. lol

ohboyitsryan

24-01-2009 14:18:03

[quote182dc3f61f="ashilef"][quote182dc3f61f="SkatingCrippled"]I can honestly say that I don't feel a bit sorry for most of the people who have over 5 letters and can't front the money. These are the people who, for the main part, killed Brandarama. They're the reason why there was a 13+ month wait for gifts, and most likely the reason why Brandarama is going this route with the offer redemption.

You cannot HONESTLY say that you did not scam/fraud Brandarama if you've gotten half a dozen letters or more. There is absolutely no way that you did not complete offers more than once, or just sign up for the intent of canceling every trial.

I do however, feel bad for the people who did one or two sites LEGITIMATELY and are having trouble with this new term.

It just angers me when I see people post things like, "Yeah, my mom, dad, friend, and grandma all got like 5 letters--how am I, I mean they, going to front the money for $3,000+ each!?" or "My god, I got 30 letters; Brandarama is trying to fraud us with this new term; there's no way that I can pay upfront for this!"

I'm glad that Brandarama initiated this new term; people like me, who played by the rules, will get their long-awaited money in 8-10 weeks instead of another 7-20 months.

Anyways, on a completely different note, I'm thrilled to hear that the Toshiba Tecra laptop is valued at $1,000. When I inquired on the value a few months ago, Brandarama told me $549.[/quote182dc3f61f]

Yea you kinda have a point. In a way it's like they are "punishing" those who did more than like 5 sites in a short time span. But people like me who didn't do a bunch of sites who really don't have an extra thousand lying around get screwed. I guess I could just buy [i182dc3f61f]something[/i182dc3f61f] and just hope I get it back, even if it is something measly like 50 or 100 dollars. cry[/quote182dc3f61f]

ashlief makes a good point. i would suggest everyone just send SOMETHING in to get a little cash back even if its less than your certificate is worth...i know this is a shady thing to do on brandarama's part, but what other recourse do we have? buy your significant other/kids something nice and valuable, score some points with them, and get the cash refunded. win/win. gonna be a bit harder for those who have amassed a bunch of letters, though. dunno what you guys can do...

skinnyhoops

24-01-2009 14:18:39

If my gift value is $1000 and I goto BEST BUY to purchase $1000 in gift cards....BEST BUY will give me (2) $500 gift cards since the max value is $500 on each card.

So my question is, will they reimburse me for the (2) $500 gift cards since my reward value is $1000? Or will they play games and just reimburse me for one $500 purchase. Remember that sentence in the letter "[b1c4f9f0ebc]Only one receipt can be submitted and only the highest value purchase will be reimbursed, up to the value of your prize.[/b1c4f9f0ebc]"

I emailed Mpell Solutions to clearify this question...and I will post their reply when I hear from them on Monday.

Zags1199

24-01-2009 14:24:40

In that situation, skinnyhoops, they would only reimburse you for $500, since they only reimburse you for the highest priced item on the receipt.

ashilef

24-01-2009 14:30:19

[quote7429dc7fad="ohboyitsryan"][quote7429dc7fad="ashilef"][quote7429dc7fad="SkatingCrippled"]I can honestly say that I don't feel a bit sorry for most of the people who have over 5 letters and can't front the money. These are the people who, for the main part, killed Brandarama. They're the reason why there was a 13+ month wait for gifts, and most likely the reason why Brandarama is going this route with the offer redemption.

You cannot HONESTLY say that you did not scam/fraud Brandarama if you've gotten half a dozen letters or more. There is absolutely no way that you did not complete offers more than once, or just sign up for the intent of canceling every trial.

I do however, feel bad for the people who did one or two sites LEGITIMATELY and are having trouble with this new term.

It just angers me when I see people post things like, "Yeah, my mom, dad, friend, and grandma all got like 5 letters--how am I, I mean they, going to front the money for $3,000+ each!?" or "My god, I got 30 letters; Brandarama is trying to fraud us with this new term; there's no way that I can pay upfront for this!"

I'm glad that Brandarama initiated this new term; people like me, who played by the rules, will get their long-awaited money in 8-10 weeks instead of another 7-20 months.

Anyways, on a completely different note, I'm thrilled to hear that the Toshiba Tecra laptop is valued at $1,000. When I inquired on the value a few months ago, Brandarama told me $549.[/quote7429dc7fad]

Yea you kinda have a point. In a way it's like they are "punishing" those who did more than like 5 sites in a short time span. But people like me who didn't do a bunch of sites who really don't have an extra thousand lying around get screwed. I guess I could just buy [i7429dc7fad]something[/i7429dc7fad] and just hope I get it back, even if it is something measly like 50 or 100 dollars. cry[/quote7429dc7fad]

ashlief makes a good point. i would suggest everyone just send SOMETHING in to get a little cash back even if its less than your certificate is worth...i know this is a shady thing to do on brandarama's part, but what other recourse do we have? buy your significant other/kids something nice and valuable, score some points with them, and get the cash refunded. win/win. gonna be a bit harder for those who have amassed a bunch of letters, though. dunno what you guys can do...[/quote7429dc7fad]

Also technically you aren't losing anything if you just buy something, copy the receipt and just take it right back. I guess it's just a matter of knowing for sure if THESE (Mpell) people keep up their end of the bargain.

skinnyhoops

24-01-2009 14:31:50

Your probably right, Zags1199.

I better be safe and just go with the $1000 VISA or Amex.

I found the link to Amex, they offer personal gift cards up to $3000 to be purchased online. This may help those who have received several letters from Mpell.

https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 14:32:48

Just got my 23 letters.
I'm waiting til the 27th to blow $14,000 on gift cards.
Should be fine as long as the ATM VISA trick works.

So how are you all sending them in?

I'm going out and buying a scanner to make copies of every single cert and receipt. Then sending them all in at once via USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate envelope early enough so that I can contact them to confirm that they got them. If not, send them again. If so, hell, I'll send them anyway.

Maybe even send them a third time, lol.

Zags1199

24-01-2009 14:34:12

What's the ATM Visa trick?

zr2152

24-01-2009 14:41:33

buy a visa that lets you take the cash out with a pin. I think that it is like a $2 service fee.

That is definitely the route to go.

steveyankee

24-01-2009 14:46:54

Anyone know what store sells prepaid visas that can be taken out of an ATM?

Also, don't you have to pay with cash for all prepaid cards?

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 14:51:02

[quote1f0482287e="steveyankee"]Anyone know what store sells prepaid visas that can be taken out of an ATM?

Also, don't you have to pay with cash for all prepaid cards?[/quote1f0482287e]

You mean all VISAs can't be taken out of an ATM?
I didn't know that.

As for the cash thing, beats me.
You can buy them online though so I don't think so.

steveyankee

24-01-2009 14:53:25

[quote4727c3150f="kwoodyk34k"][quote4727c3150f="steveyankee"]Anyone know what store sells prepaid visas that can be taken out of an ATM?

Also, don't you have to pay with cash for all prepaid cards?[/quote4727c3150f]

You mean all VISAs can't be taken out of an ATM?
I didn't know that.

As for the cash thing, beats me.
You can buy them online though so I don't think so.[/quote4727c3150f]

Nope, at least years ago. Some prepaid won't let you access an ATM with it.

And during that time, I went to a CVS where they said I can only pay with cash, for safety reasons (people doing chargebacks, and having money on the visa prepaid or something)


Can we buy it online? I don't want them to only accept in-store printed out receipts and not an online receipt, which anyone could easily photoshop.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 14:57:36

[quote3ce6964db0="steveyankee"][quote3ce6964db0="kwoodyk34k"][quote3ce6964db0="steveyankee"]Anyone know what store sells prepaid visas that can be taken out of an ATM?

Also, don't you have to pay with cash for all prepaid cards?[/quote3ce6964db0]

You mean all VISAs can't be taken out of an ATM?
I didn't know that.

As for the cash thing, beats me.
You can buy them online though so I don't think so.[/quote3ce6964db0]

Nope, at least years ago. Some prepaid won't let you access an ATM with it.

And during that time, I went to a CVS where they said I can only pay with cash, for safety reasons (people doing chargebacks, and having money on the visa prepaid or something)


Can we buy it online? I don't want them to only accept in-store printed out receipts and not an online receipt, which anyone could easily photoshop.[/quote3ce6964db0]

Well online would be pretty much our only chance with the $501+

No one asked who got them earlier asked if online purchases count?
Come on first wave, you guys are slacking!
Lol, I'll try calling tomorrow.
The hours say 9-5PST but doesn't list any days so they should be open.
(I opened my letters 10 mins too late to call)

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 14:58:14

lithat got the.

Zags1199

24-01-2009 14:59:15

Yeah, I did a lot of research last night, and only certain cards let you use your Visa GC at an ATM. These cards are few and far between. For most of them, you already have to be a member of some obscure bank to get one.

If you buy gift cards in store, you usually have to pay with cash or debit to prevent any fraud problems. If you buy them online, you can use a credit card or debit.

Steve - the letter says you can buy it from your "favorite online store."

And kwoody, they are open Monday-Friday, 9 a.m. - 5 p.m., PT.

orangejuice

24-01-2009 15:01:52

Wait a sec guys, before we go jump on the gift card thing here, we can also buy a big ass TV or something and just mail in the receipt for that right?? Just to make sure since we are all caught up in the gift cards.

skinnyhoops

24-01-2009 15:02:24

The letter says you can visit a local retailer or favorite online store. You just need a legitimate receipt.

I'm probably going to order a $1000 Amex on Monday. I'd do it now but my letter is dated 1/26/09

desertwilite

24-01-2009 15:05:53

[quote81a28ab851="orangejuice"]Wait a sec guys, before we go jump on the gift card thing here, we can also buy a big ass TV or something and just mail in the receipt for that right?? Just to make sure since we are all caught up in the gift cards.[/quote81a28ab851]

I think so. But would they look down upon me for buying a TV instead of a scholarship for my child?? LOL

orangejuice

24-01-2009 15:07:18

What if you buy a $3000 Amex Gift Card for that? I have that pending too. would they just send you a check for $2500 then ?

skinnyhoops

24-01-2009 15:07:45

[quote7b0cabefbd="orangejuice"]Wait a sec guys, before we go jump on the gift card thing here, we can also buy a big ass TV or something and just mail in the receipt for that right?? Just to make sure since we are all caught up in the gift cards.[/quote7b0cabefbd]

I'd call Mpell on Monday to make sure. It sounds like you have the freedom to purchase anything.

I tried calling Mpell today but they are only open regular business hours Monday - Friday.

ILoveToys

24-01-2009 15:10:36

What if we don't use the max value possible? Will we be 1099ed for the entire thing or just some of it?

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 15:13:34

[quoteed2794ac33="Zags1199"]Yeah, I did a lot of research last night, and only certain cards let you use your Visa GC at an ATM. These cards are few and far between. For most of them, you already have to be a member of some obscure bank to get one.

If you buy gift cards in store, you usually have to pay with cash or debit to prevent any fraud problems. If you buy them online, you can use a credit card or debit.

Steve - the letter says you can buy it from your "favorite online store."

And kwoody, they are open Monday-Friday, 9 a.m. - 5 p.m., PT.[/quoteed2794ac33]

But what if they find out that it isn't my favorite one?

Lol, jk.

Thanks for doing the research.
What would you suggest to do?
So there is absolutely no way you know of for the average Joe to get a Visa that you can use at an ATM?

Normally, what are the expiration dates on these bad boys?
If you buy online, you can buy gift cards with gift cards, correct?

slambam

24-01-2009 15:31:54

So lets say I have $3000 worth of stuff CTS that I got letters for. Can I purchase 1 thing for $3000 and use that for all the gifts I'm CTS for? There is nothing in the letter saying anything against it....

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 15:33:24

[quotebd4509f6c4="slambam"]So lets say I have $3000 worth of stuff CTS that I got letters for. Can I purchase 1 thing for $3000 and use that for all the gifts I'm CTS for? There is nothing in the letter saying anything against it....[/quotebd4509f6c4]

I would doubt it.
But call and ask Monday.

Zags1199

24-01-2009 15:52:50

No, you can only redeem one receipt per certificate. You have to break it down by the amounts on the gift certificates they send you.

There are cards you can use at the ATM, but generally, they can only have a maximum of $250-$500, which leaves people with amounts more than that in the dark.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 15:56:34

[quote3f9c3a0ff5="Zags1199"]No, you can only redeem one receipt per certificate. You have to break it down by the amounts on the gift certificates they send you.

There are cards you can use at the ATM, but generally, they can only have a maximum of $250-$500, which leaves people with amounts more than that in the dark.[/quote3f9c3a0ff5]

Where can you get those ones?
I'll be fine if I can get my hands on them, lol.

The bigger gifts I can just buy AMEX and wait til I need that money.

mistertomlinson

24-01-2009 16:17:42

This was asked already a couple pages back but no one answered and I can't recall if it has been addressed in the last 40 pages of this thread... can I buy an item for just over what they owe me? Say they owe me $2,500 (which they do) for one gift and I spend a total of $2,514, will I be reimbursed the entire $2,500? I could see them pulling some shady shit and telling me, "Sorry, your purchase exceeded what we owe you. We cannot reimburse for anything more than what is owed."

livingloud28

24-01-2009 16:17:54

So it looks like everyone has the money to front . I want to hear from those who do not have the money like me . I mean will I still get my gifts ?

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 16:22:56

Ah... is this what you're looking at?

http//www.giftcards.com/help/FAQ.html#a102

"6. Can I use the GiftCards.com™ Visa® Gift Card at an ATM to withdraw money?
You can only withdrawal cash if you purchased our GiftCards.com™ Visa® ATM gift card that bears the Cirrus or Interlink logo on the back of the gift card. Our Standard GiftCards.com™ Visa® gift cards can only be used to make purchases. GiftCards.com™ will deduct a $3.25 service charge for each ATM withdrawal. Please note the institution that owns the terminal (or the network) may also assess a fee (surcharge) at the time of your transaction, including balance inquiries. Your withdrawal limit is $150 per day and cannot exceed the value of the gift card. "


K, so which ones are ATM Gift Cards?

Someone help me look.

mwt123

24-01-2009 16:23:11

how about the fees included on the giftcards.. do they count it as exceeding the stated amount?

tp24

24-01-2009 16:24:51

[quote2e6a55b184="mistertomlinson"]This was asked already a couple pages back but no one answered and I can't recall if it has been addressed in the last 40 pages of this thread... can I buy an item for just over what they owe me? Say they owe me $2,500 (which they do) for one gift and I spend a total of $2,514, will I be reimbursed the entire $2,500? I could see them pulling some shady shit and telling me, "Sorry, your purchase exceeded what we owe you. We cannot reimburse for anything more than what is owed."[/quote2e6a55b184]

I would call, or better yet, e-mail them(so that you have proof that you were told so and so by this representative) and confirm all of these questions myself.

ashilef

24-01-2009 16:24:54

[quote7f82f83eba="livingloud28"]So it looks like everyone has the money to front . I want to hear from those who do not have the money like me . I mean will I still get my gifts ?[/quote7f82f83eba]

I don't have the money to front for the highest value owed to me. I think this certificate thing is our only option. I disscussed it with my husband and just decided that we'll just buy the most expensive thing we can and then just return it. You basically just need a copy of the receipt. I'm still mad, but it's better than nothing.

MamaToldMeDIY

24-01-2009 16:25:45

I'm in CT, so don't feel bad you didn't get your's in Jerz

they're coming...I bet the rest of us get our's tomorrow

someone really needs to compile a Wiki-type post for all this

like

-Only 1 item will be reimbursed per cert, if there's several items on a receipt only the highest will be reimbursed.

etc

soccerbud

24-01-2009 16:26:48

[quoteb2416fc09d="ashilef"][quoteb2416fc09d="livingloud28"]So it looks like everyone has the money to front . I want to hear from those who do not have the money like me . I mean will I still get my gifts ?[/quoteb2416fc09d]

I don't have the money to front for the highest value owed to me. I think this certificate thing is our only option. I disscussed it with my husband and just decided that we'll just buy the most expensive thing we can and then just return it. You basically just need a copy of the receipt. I'm still mad, but it's better than nothing.[/quoteb2416fc09d]that's probably your best option

try walmart, best buy or traget
but don't forget to ask about restocking fee

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 16:31:18

I found this,

http//www.giftcards.com/consumer/atm.html

which is supposedly supposed to be a Visa ATM Gift Card from GiftCards.com but when I click "Buy Now!" it takes me to the homepage...

Anyone else get that?

ashilef

24-01-2009 16:43:10

[quotefcc6d3093b="soccerbud"][quotefcc6d3093b="ashilef"][quotefcc6d3093b="livingloud28"]So it looks like everyone has the money to front . I want to hear from those who do not have the money like me . I mean will I still get my gifts ?[/quotefcc6d3093b]

I don't have the money to front for the highest value owed to me. I think this certificate thing is our only option. I disscussed it with my husband and just decided that we'll just buy the most expensive thing we can and then just return it. You basically just need a copy of the receipt. I'm still mad, but it's better than nothing.[/quotefcc6d3093b]that's probably your best option

try walmart, best buy or traget
but don't forget to ask about restocking fee[/quotefcc6d3093b]

I don't think Walmart or Target charges a restocking fee, but I'll find out.

terryishere

24-01-2009 16:45:16

jeeze louise!!!

ashilef

24-01-2009 16:47:59

So has everybody pretty much come to terms with this and is actually excited about the prospect of receiving some sort of payment?

ghounds07

24-01-2009 16:49:44

[quote4212ab5d4f="cronerd"]like my mom always says "if its too good to be true, it is" most of us jumped on those 3 offer/$500 gifts but in the back of our heads knew sumthing had to give, and it just did[/quote4212ab5d4f]

If all you had were gifts $500 and under how would this just give? You lose like $10 per $500 gift, and potentially get them sooner than you would have with BR's shipping schedule..

ploppsdman

24-01-2009 16:53:21

Until this actually works out, Im still irritated. When the money is in my bank account, and subsequently spent 3 days later, then I'll be happy about this. But Im still assuming this is bogus and will go south.

Brian1973

24-01-2009 16:55:07

Ah... is this what you're looking at?

http//www.giftcards.com/help/FAQ.html#a102

<i> "6. Can I use the GiftCards.com™ Visa® Gift Card at an ATM to withdraw money?
You can only withdrawal cash if you purchased our GiftCards.com™ Visa® ATM gift card that bears the Cirrus or Interlink logo on the back of the gift card. Our Standard GiftCards.com™ Visa® gift cards can only be used to make purchases. GiftCards.com™ will deduct a $3.25 service charge for each ATM withdrawal. Please note the institution that owns the terminal (or the network) may also assess a fee (surcharge) at the time of your transaction, including balance inquiries. Your withdrawal limit is $150 per day and cannot exceed the value of the gift card. "</i>

K, so which ones are ATM Gift Cards?

Someone help me look.



Type "Visa ATM Giftcard" in the search box on the Giftcards.com site and it will bring up a bunch of them. They say "ATM" in the card name.

ashilef

24-01-2009 16:55:53

[quote3b0353fb4d="ploppsdman"]Until this actually works out, Im still irritated. When the money is in my bank account, and [b3b0353fb4d]subsequently spent 3 days later[/b3b0353fb4d], then I'll be happy about this. But Im still assuming this is bogus and will go south.[/quote3b0353fb4d]

lol, why so fast?

ILoveToys

24-01-2009 16:57:53

Is there anywhere you can buy a $1000 ATM card?

mistertomlinson

24-01-2009 17:03:11

[quote8e70f3efe3="tp24"][quote8e70f3efe3="mistertomlinson"]This was asked already a couple pages back but no one answered and I can't recall if it has been addressed in the last 40 pages of this thread... can I buy an item for just over what they owe me? Say they owe me $2,500 (which they do) for one gift and I spend a total of $2,514, will I be reimbursed the entire $2,500? I could see them pulling some shady shit and telling me, "Sorry, your purchase exceeded what we owe you. We cannot reimburse for anything more than what is owed."[/quote8e70f3efe3]

I would call, or better yet, e-mail them(so that you have proof that you were told so and so by this representative) and confirm all of these questions myself.[/quote8e70f3efe3]

Done.

Does anybody know how long it takes them to respond? I wanna order my things first thing Monday morning, print the invoices and get the ball rolling and am hoping I don't have to wait too long for their response.

skinnyhoops

24-01-2009 17:04:56

If anyone has certificates valued OVER $500...I recommend just buying an Amex Gift Card. You can order them online and pay with your credit card.

My certificate was for the $1000 Circuit City Gift Card, but i'll be getting a $1000 Amex Gift Card next week and sending in my receipt.

Amex Gift Card website
https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1

tp24

24-01-2009 17:12:15

[quote6d081dc0e6="ashilef"]So has everybody pretty much come to terms with this and is actually excited about the prospect of receiving some sort of payment?[/quote6d081dc0e6]

Well, this company is registered with the BBB, so I don't think they'll try to screw us over. Plus, there are more options than initially thought.

Zags1199

24-01-2009 17:40:11

[quote9082921a02="mistertomlinson"]This was asked already a couple pages back but no one answered and I can't recall if it has been addressed in the last 40 pages of this thread... can I buy an item for just over what they owe me? Say they owe me $2,500 (which they do) for one gift and I spend a total of $2,514, will I be reimbursed the entire $2,500? I could see them pulling some shady shit and telling me, "Sorry, your purchase exceeded what we owe you. We cannot reimburse for anything more than what is owed."[/quote9082921a02]

Yes, they'll send you $2500. This has already been talked about earlier, but I really don't blame you for not sorting through this mess.

swbball28

24-01-2009 17:43:38

anyone know where I can buy a Mastercard, Visa, or Amex that I can set the amount on it, since I did the $825 Nordstrom site, I cant find a site that will let me buy $825 or $850. The Amex site goes from $700 to $1000. Thanks

Cromwell44

24-01-2009 17:50:22

[quoteb63ba2409e="swbball28"]anyone know where I can buy a Mastercard, Visa, or Amex that I can set the amount on it, since I did the $825 Nordstrom site, I cant find a site that will let me buy $825 or $850. The Amex site goes from $700 to $1000. Thanks[/quoteb63ba2409e]

I bank with Wells Fargo, and I was reading through their site, and it says you can buy any whole dollar amount up to $500. Check with your bank.

https//www.wellsfargo.com/giftcard/faq/purchasing

zr2152

24-01-2009 18:02:31

[quote3da9070020="swbball28"]anyone know where I can buy a Mastercard, Visa, or Amex that I can set the amount on it, since I did the $825 Nordstrom site, I cant find a site that will let me buy $825 or $850. The Amex site goes from $700 to $1000. Thanks[/quote3da9070020]

Buy a 900 one or 1000 one. They will send u a check for 825 still and you can use the extra hundred or so.

mistertomlinson

24-01-2009 18:11:33

[quote7099fb1ec1="Zags1199"][quote7099fb1ec1="mistertomlinson"]This was asked already a couple pages back but no one answered and I can't recall if it has been addressed in the last 40 pages of this thread... can I buy an item for just over what they owe me? Say they owe me $2,500 (which they do) for one gift and I spend a total of $2,514, will I be reimbursed the entire $2,500? I could see them pulling some shady shit and telling me, "Sorry, your purchase exceeded what we owe you. We cannot reimburse for anything more than what is owed."[/quote7099fb1ec1]

Yes, they'll send you $2500. This has already been talked about earlier, but I really don't blame you for not sorting through this mess.[/quote7099fb1ec1]

Frankly, I HAVE read through EVERY post pertaining to this matter since this went down and I do vaguely recall it being mentioned but couldn't remember exactly what was said and there was NO WAY I can bare reading through that many posts to track it down, so I figured I'd ask.

MamaToldMeDIY

24-01-2009 18:14:46

lol@ this complaint about Mpell on a 350z forum

http//my350z.com/forum/the-lounge-off-topic/375510-mpell-solutions-is-a-joke.html

lunchclerk

24-01-2009 18:32:28

[quote7651887280="Cromwell44"][quote7651887280="swbball28"]anyone know where I can buy a Mastercard, Visa, or Amex that I can set the amount on it, since I did the $825 Nordstrom site, I cant find a site that will let me buy $825 or $850. The Amex site goes from $700 to $1000. Thanks[/quote7651887280]

I bank with Wells Fargo, and I was reading through their site, and it says you can buy any whole dollar amount up to $500. Check with your bank.

https//www.wellsfargo.com/giftcard/faq/purchasing[/quote7651887280]

What kind of receipt will you get from Wells Fargo?

gochise

24-01-2009 18:42:46

Well, guess i'll have to checkout Costco and do that buy-return thing!

MamaToldMeDIY

24-01-2009 18:47:36

wow, just found out my Navy Federal Credit Union does up to 1k Visa gift cards, so I guess I'll do 2x 500 Visas for my other 2 gifts and 1x 1k Visa for my 1k Visa prize

Hope this works out

PS if anyone wants to send me $1000, I will send them a Visa gift card within 8-10 months.........................hahahah

Zags1199

24-01-2009 18:48:09

[quotef51abd749d="mistertomlinson"][quotef51abd749d="Zags1199"][quotef51abd749d="mistertomlinson"]This was asked already a couple pages back but no one answered and I can't recall if it has been addressed in the last 40 pages of this thread... can I buy an item for just over what they owe me? Say they owe me $2,500 (which they do) for one gift and I spend a total of $2,514, will I be reimbursed the entire $2,500? I could see them pulling some shady shit and telling me, "Sorry, your purchase exceeded what we owe you. We cannot reimburse for anything more than what is owed."[/quotef51abd749d]

Yes, they'll send you $2500. This has already been talked about earlier, but I really don't blame you for not sorting through this mess.[/quotef51abd749d]

Frankly, I HAVE read through EVERY post pertaining to this matter since this went down and I do vaguely recall it being mentioned but couldn't remember exactly what was said and there was NO WAY I can bare reading through that many posts to track it down, so I figured I'd ask.[/quotef51abd749d]

Completely understandable, dude. This thread has become chaos.

Cromwell44

24-01-2009 18:52:53

[quote93a12f4cde="lunchclerk"][quote93a12f4cde="Cromwell44"][quote93a12f4cde="swbball28"]anyone know where I can buy a Mastercard, Visa, or Amex that I can set the amount on it, since I did the $825 Nordstrom site, I cant find a site that will let me buy $825 or $850. The Amex site goes from $700 to $1000. Thanks[/quote93a12f4cde]

I bank with Wells Fargo, and I was reading through their site, and it says you can buy any whole dollar amount up to $500. Check with your bank.

https//www.wellsfargo.com/giftcard/faq/purchasing[/quote93a12f4cde]

What kind of receipt will you get from Wells Fargo?[/quote93a12f4cde]

I am not sure, I think I will head over to my local branch monday and check it out.

skinnyhoops

24-01-2009 19:46:44

quick ty to everyone that posted today

if i didn't have access to this forum and i got this letter anyway, I probably would've threw it out LOL

well it's nice being informed and part of a "support group" kinda thing

many thanks

cronerd

24-01-2009 19:55:37

yea a support group, "so how long has your addiction to brandarama lasted, and when was the last time you logged in...." lol

viperklt21

24-01-2009 20:00:31

Has anyone got a letter for the $500 amex or the $1350 sports authority? I haven't received letter for those yet. Just seeing if any of you got them yet.

Zags1199

24-01-2009 20:00:31

[quoteebf3bd99c9="MamaToldMeDIY"]wow, just found out my Navy Federal Credit Union does up to 1k Visa gift cards, so I guess I'll do 2x 500 Visas for my other 2 gifts and 1x 1k Visa for my 1k Visa prize

Hope this works out

PS if anyone wants to send me $1000, I will send them a Visa gift card within 8-10 months.........................hahahah[/quoteebf3bd99c9]

You have a Navy Federal Credit Union Visa or Navy Federal Credit Union Mastercard?

ashilef

24-01-2009 20:04:40

[quotef32b19bf93="cronerd"]yea a support group, "so how long has your addiction to brandarama lasted, and when was the last time you logged in...." lol[/quotef32b19bf93]

It's funny, if these Mpell people do come through and pay us out...what would we have left to talk about?

Oh and I hope no one would be silly enough to deal with brandarama again after this...

skinnyhoops

24-01-2009 20:24:50

I've only done two gifts with Brandarama sites in Nov and Dec 2007. I'm kinda relieved now ...it's almost over. I was waiting on a $1000 Circuit City gift card and then they went out of business. Very mixed feelings about this until I received the letter. Now i just have to get my gift card and go SHOPPING NEXT WEEK!

zr2152

24-01-2009 20:35:44

[quote9db18ce60c="ashilef"][quote9db18ce60c="cronerd"]yea a support group, "so how long has your addiction to brandarama lasted, and when was the last time you logged in...." lol[/quote9db18ce60c]

It's funny, if these Mpell people do come through and pay us out...what would we have left to talk about?

Oh and I hope no one would be silly enough to deal with brandarama again after this...[/quote9db18ce60c]

Since I'm assuming that this is how they are doing business from now on I'll be all over their sites.


Why wouldn't you be? I don't mind shelling out a $500 Visa gift card receipt for a $500 check from Mpell. It's silly if you DON'T do their sites again.

RyanG

24-01-2009 20:58:55

[quotee8e6ebba78="skinnyhoops"]I've only done two gifts with Brandarama sites in Nov and Dec 2007. I'm kinda relieved now ...it's almost over. I was waiting on a $1000 Circuit City gift card and then they went out of business. Very mixed feelings about this until I received the letter. Now i just have to get my gift card and go SHOPPING NEXT WEEK![/quotee8e6ebba78]

its almost over? i'd like to say its just begun.

zr2152

24-01-2009 21:03:36

I really don't understand why all of you are doubting this. This is the best solution to them catching up on EVERYTHING.

Powerbook

24-01-2009 21:14:36

Um I don't have fucking $1000 to spend. This is bullshit. If everyone pulled together here a lawsuit would not be out of question. How can all of you just trust this and spend money in the hope of getting money back? This is really making me angry. I have waited 13 months, and now I get this shit? Now, I do not get my gift just because I do not have $1000 to spend? I am so damn angry. God damn it. I kept all the damn offers I signed up for too.

LucaBella

24-01-2009 21:29:34

[quotea2329cf705="ashilef"][quotea2329cf705="livingloud28"]So it looks like everyone has the money to front . I want to hear from those who do not have the money like me . I mean will I still get my gifts ?[/quotea2329cf705]

I don't have the money to front for the highest value owed to me. I think this certificate thing is our only option. I disscussed it with my husband and just decided that we'll just buy the most expensive thing we can and then just return it. You basically just need a copy of the receipt. I'm still mad, but it's better than nothing.[/quotea2329cf705]

I just don't understand why you all keep announcing how you're planning to scam you way through this.. just do it and STFU about how you did it!

Save yourself.

steveyankee

24-01-2009 21:34:43

[quote9ccb450357="LucaBella"][quote9ccb450357="ashilef"][quote9ccb450357="livingloud28"]So it looks like everyone has the money to front . I want to hear from those who do not have the money like me . I mean will I still get my gifts ?[/quote9ccb450357]

I don't have the money to front for the highest value owed to me. I think this certificate thing is our only option. I disscussed it with my husband and just decided that we'll just buy the most expensive thing we can and then just return it. You basically just need a copy of the receipt. I'm still mad, but it's better than nothing.[/quote9ccb450357]

I just don't understand why you all keep announcing how you're planning to scam you way through this.. just do it and STFU about how you did it!

Save yourself.[/quote9ccb450357]

Here

scam (skām) Pronunciation Key
n. A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.


How is returning a product a scam. get your hippy stuff out of here. by that definition, BR are the only scammers around here

MamaToldMeDIY

24-01-2009 21:39:49

[quote914ec03998="Zags1199"][quote914ec03998="MamaToldMeDIY"]wow, just found out my Navy Federal Credit Union does up to 1k Visa gift cards, so I guess I'll do 2x 500 Visas for my other 2 gifts and 1x 1k Visa for my 1k Visa prize

Hope this works out

PS if anyone wants to send me $1000, I will send them a Visa gift card within 8-10 months.........................hahahah[/quote914ec03998]

You have a Navy Federal Credit Union Visa or Navy Federal Credit Union Mastercard?[/quote914ec03998]

yep, I have the Visa

why, do you?

Zags1199

24-01-2009 22:02:12

No, I was just making sure you knew that's all they accepted.

bennyboy5768

24-01-2009 22:06:33

I guess its good I have a World Mastercard (google it) so I can buy $5000 in giftcards and pay the balance with the funds from the giftcards after I get them out of an ATM or something. On the other hand, I'd be in for a lawsuit...

MamaToldMeDIY

24-01-2009 22:09:50

I'm gonna be racking up some reward points for my Visa with this too

I just cashed in some points for a $75 Visa, now I'll be able to get another one soon after doing this hoopla.

kwoodyk34k

24-01-2009 23:00:07

The only things I'm still worried about is,

"LOL WE NEVER GOT UR 14K in certs!!!111"

or

"LOL THOSE GIFT CARDS BOUGHT ONLINE DON'T HAVE LEGIT RECEIPTS!!!11"

orangejuice

24-01-2009 23:14:52

i could front some money here, if you dont mind giving me 35% commission + the rest back when you get the check

RyanG

24-01-2009 23:27:02

[quote0d29180cb2="zr2152"]I really don't understand why all of you are doubting this. This is the best solution to them catching up on EVERYTHING.[/quote0d29180cb2]

who said I was doubting? it's not over until the check clears my bank account hence why I said it's not OVER.

Cromwell44

24-01-2009 23:40:55

[quoteeec0fd95e0="zr2152"][quoteeec0fd95e0="ashilef"][quoteeec0fd95e0="cronerd"]yea a support group, "so how long has your addiction to brandarama lasted, and when was the last time you logged in...." lol[/quoteeec0fd95e0]

It's funny, if these Mpell people do come through and pay us out...what would we have left to talk about?

Oh and I hope no one would be silly enough to deal with brandarama again after this...[/quoteeec0fd95e0]

Since I'm assuming that this is how they are doing business from now on I'll be all over their sites.


Why wouldn't you be? I don't mind shelling out a $500 Visa gift card receipt for a $500 check from Mpell. It's silly if you DON'T do their sites again.[/quoteeec0fd95e0]

I have been debating this all day... at first, I was pissed like everyone else when I saw this solution... but now I am thinking, all those other brandarama sites I havr parked, might be doable now if the payout is going to be this fast... I would still rather have them just send me a gift card, but this could work good in the long run.

bruman

24-01-2009 23:55:43

I think I'm going to see how well MPell handles our cash redemptions before I hop on any other site. I asked CS and they said all future gifts will be going through the MPell certificates as well.

cronerd

25-01-2009 00:10:26

[quoteeaf974765a="bruman"]I think I'm going to see how well MPell handles our cash redemptions before I hop on any other site. I asked CS and they said all future gifts will be going through the MPell certificates as well.[/quoteeaf974765a]
can you believe this guy, he wants to do MORE brandarma sites rofl (if I understood you correctly)

cronerd

25-01-2009 00:12:10

[quotea92b7db786="orangejuice"]i could front some money here, if you dont mind giving me 35% commission + the rest back when you get the check[/quotea92b7db786]
take my arm and my leg while your at it too

soccerbud

25-01-2009 00:12:54

[quote426a612266="bruman"]I think I'm going to see how well MPell handles our cash redemptions before I hop on any other site. I asked CS and they said all future gifts will be going through the MPell certificates as well.[/quote426a612266]

I am pretty sure that the first batches will go along fairly smoothly.
However, when Mpell realized that they are not going to meet their profit margin b'c they are being outsmarted, they are going to be more stringent and anal about the process.

Much like how most DIY sites turns out. Easy to deal with at first and more difficult as time goes along.

bruman

25-01-2009 00:20:09

[quoteef991de976="cronerd"][quoteef991de976="bruman"]I think I'm going to see how well MPell handles our cash redemptions before I hop on any other site. I asked CS and they said all future gifts will be going through the MPell certificates as well.[/quoteef991de976]
can you believe this guy, he wants to do MORE brandarma sites rofl (if I understood you correctly)[/quoteef991de976]

If this goes smoothly I'm sure I won't be the only one. Especially since they are caught up through Dec. 08. I know I'm at least going to complete one more.. been waiting on manual credit for my last offer on the Toshiba Tecra site for a couple months now.

ashilef

25-01-2009 00:20:39

[quote9f84dbc539="LucaBella"][quote9f84dbc539="ashilef"][quote9f84dbc539="livingloud28"]So it looks like everyone has the money to front . I want to hear from those who do not have the money like me . I mean will I still get my gifts ?[/quote9f84dbc539]

I don't have the money to front for the highest value owed to me. I think this certificate thing is our only option. I disscussed it with my husband and just decided that we'll just buy the most expensive thing we can and then just return it. You basically just need a copy of the receipt. I'm still mad, but it's better than nothing.[/quote9f84dbc539]

I just don't understand why you all keep announcing how you're planning to scam you way through this.. just do it and STFU about how you did it!

Save yourself.[/quote9f84dbc539]

I have an idea, why don't YOU save yourself the hassle of worrying about what I'm doing and go back to what ever hole you crawled out of um k? Kthanksbai!

stagefrog2

25-01-2009 02:30:15

[quote2b8a6c6079="steveyankee"]Yeah, I bet they try to find any reason to DQ.

My brother just came over, and I told him about his two gifts and this whole situation. Since he isn't up to date on this stuff, I'll do it for him.

I saw his drivers license has his old address on it, and he doesn't have anything with his current address.

I just have a feeling this company will find this as a way to DQ him out of $1,000.[/quote2b8a6c6079]

Use a passport. No address.

stagefrog2

25-01-2009 02:33:22

[quoteac95a7244a="Zags1199"]Does anyone know what to do if the address on our ID is different from the address Mpell has?[/quoteac95a7244a]
If you have a passport, use that. No address on a passport.

stagefrog2

25-01-2009 03:07:10

I've been looking around and it seems like myreadycard.com looks good for those awkward amounts (like $1350...I can't afford to get a $2000 Amex). Online bill pay ($2.50 per paper check), online statements, looks like any amount to $2500, can take out money at an ATM. Just make sure to get a PERSONALIZED ReadyCard for those features.

It does have a monthly fee of $4.95, but you can cash out immediately (well, $500 per day @$1.95 withdrawal fee).
https//www.myreadycard.com/aboutcard.aspx?node=fees

fanofpurple

25-01-2009 05:24:02

[quote8bb5636197="bruman"]I think I'm going to see how well MPell handles our cash redemptions before I hop on any other site. I asked CS and they said all future gifts will be going through the MPell certificates as well.[/quote8bb5636197]

That is my concern with this. Hopefully if we all get the receipts into them in this first batch, we'll be paid, but I am not 100% sure they will reimburse us at all.

MamaToldMeDIY

25-01-2009 06:43:13

I've never heard of MyreadyCARD, is it a credible source for Visas?

[quoted6b3eb3771="bruman"]I am pretty sure that the first batches will go along fairly smoothly.
However, when Mpell realized that they are not going to meet their profit margin b'c they are being outsmarted, they are going to be more stringent and anal about the process.

Much like how most DIY sites turns out. Easy to deal with at first and more difficult as time goes along.[/quoted6b3eb3771]

You hit the nail on the head my friend, once Mpell realizes the majority of people that BR deals with are us forum-goers, and we know exactly what to do to get what we want, they will definitely start screening the stuff like assholes.

livingloud28

25-01-2009 06:56:19

http//www.mpellsolutions.com/faq.html#qa5

RolltheStampede

25-01-2009 07:06:28

[quote59cb99b019="steveyankee"][quote59cb99b019="tp24"][quote59cb99b019="Zags1199"]Does anyone know what to do if the address on our ID is different from the address Mpell has?[/quote59cb99b019]

They allow you to give the certificate to anyone at any address to redeem it(although you might want to call to make sure.)[/quote59cb99b019]

Really? That'd be awesome. Where did you read this?[/quote59cb99b019]

qouting you to tag in the sea of posts

RolltheStampede

25-01-2009 07:08:20

[quoteaffcd300b1="debo012004"]just got my letters in Illinois

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tp24

25-01-2009 07:09:04

[quote5c9027e22d="MamaToldMeDIY"]I've never heard of MyreadyCARD, is it a credible source for Visas?

[quote5c9027e22d="bruman"]I am pretty sure that the first batches will go along fairly smoothly.
However, when Mpell realized that they are not going to meet their profit margin b'c they are being outsmarted, they are going to be more stringent and anal about the process.

Much like how most DIY sites turns out. Easy to deal with at first and more difficult as time goes along.[/quote5c9027e22d]

You hit the nail on the head my friend, once Mpell realizes the majority of people that BR deals with are us forum-goers, and we know exactly what to do to get what we want, they will definitely start screening the stuff like assholes.[/quote5c9027e22d]

I would also check with Mpell whether the Personalized cards(the ones where you have to make a deposit, as opposed to the Instantready card where you don't have to make a deposit, but the limit is lower and you cannot use it from an ATM) count.

RolltheStampede

25-01-2009 07:19:55

In todays news retailers saw a swell in consumer spending that hasnt been seen since Black Friday.

steveyankee

25-01-2009 07:21:28

Also, does anyone know if it has to be a government ID? What about a college ID?

MamaToldMeDIY

25-01-2009 07:35:35

[quoteaaf821215e="RolltheStampede"]In todays news retailers saw a swell in consumer spending that hasnt been seen since Black Friday.[/quoteaaf821215e]

lol

we should all buy some stock in AMEX/Visa before we purchase all these gift cards...hahah

dubbin87

25-01-2009 09:02:02

[quotee75e6b541a="livingloud28"]http//www.mpellsolutions.com/faq.html#qa5[/quotee75e6b541a]

Reading over this it only covers part of the way our gifts are being processed.

JANGALANG32

25-01-2009 09:14:01

Q What is an acceptable Proof of Purchase?
A We will accept virtually any receipt/invoice or order confirmation, which you received from the company that offered you your free product. The receipt or order confirmation should have something on it that identifies your order, like an order number. back to top


Q I don’t have any Proof of Purchase, what do I do?
A You must contact the company you received the redemption certificate from and request a Proof of Purchase. back to top

Q It is past the date listed on the certificate that I had to send it in by, can I still send in the redemption?
A Yes, if you pay the appropriate late fee in addition to fulfilling all other instructions listed on the certificate. Please contact customer support for the late fee applicable to your redemption. back to top


what does all this stuff mean? we need something from brandarama besides what we already have in the letter?

steveyankee

25-01-2009 09:15:52

Don't read that FAQ. Most of it doesn't relate to what we're doing.


That will just cause more confusion. Just follow the steps in the letter.

MamaToldMeDIY

25-01-2009 09:16:58

ya, that other stuff is if Brandarama ORIGINALLY sent us to Mpell vice keeping us on hold for 2 years...lol

imapepper

25-01-2009 10:06:20

I dont think they are sending me any redemption forms for the 37" Plasma here is a reponse I got today actually to my mail to them yesterday on when this item will ship

Dear Gina,

Thank you for contacting us.

I apologize, but we are not currently substituting or expediting and gifts at this time. We are currently experiencing huge delays in shipping, due to high demand of certain gifts and the website growing rapidly. We are exhausting our best efforts to get caught up again. We are currently on the August 2007 mailing list for the visa gift cards and the October/November 2007 mailing list for all other gifts

We do not know the status of your gift. It will ship once your confirmed to be ship date and name are reached on our shipping list. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your continued patience.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Holly
Brandarama Member Support

slambam

25-01-2009 10:12:22

I dont know, there support seems clueless unless you ask them about the forms...

skinnyhoops

25-01-2009 10:23:05

imapepper, that email reply you received is from Holly, who may not know about the new Mpell program yet. Reason I say that is because the other person, Kim, said she found out about it all yesterday.

You may want to try emailing them again and this time asking for Kim. Kim is very good and knows about the Mpell program.

kwoodyk34k

25-01-2009 10:36:52

Someone should ask about what they have on their site about only paying a fee for sending certs in late.

That would help everyone out if its true.

Ill call tomorrow after I get outta school if I check this forum and no one has asked by then )

lunchclerk

25-01-2009 11:14:36

If you are planning on going the gift card route, make your money work for you. Example Buy visas and then use them to buy grocery store gift cards. If you want to go a step further, then use the grocery store gift cards to buy visas. If will take alittle planning, but use your money over and over. You don't have to have it all up front.

I am going to buy a couple Walmart cards and then use them at Sam's for a tv my husband wants. This should cover 3 of my letters. (I haven't received my 20 letters yet. I live in Utah.)

Eeyore

25-01-2009 11:15:50

[quote9d50db4833="kwoodyk34k"]Someone should ask about what they have on their site about only paying a fee for sending certs in late.[/quote9d50db4833]
Mpell's usual business is fulfillment of things like $50 gift cards as a reward for retail purchase, etc. This Brandarama thing is rather unique and the information on their site doesn't really apply. Follow the terms on the certificate, as stated above. There is no incentive to them to accept these high payout certificates late unless the late fee is substantial, and even then I doubt they'd do it.

viperklt21

25-01-2009 11:19:27

[quoted965954a39="viperklt21"]Has anyone got a letter for the $500 amex or the $1350 sports authority? I haven't received letter for those yet. Just seeing if any of you got them yet.[/quoted965954a39]


Since no one answered me I will take that as a no. Maybe those gifts are going to be redeemed the old way.

desertwilite

25-01-2009 11:28:22

[quoteb91b667454="viperklt21"][quoteb91b667454="viperklt21"]Has anyone got a letter for the $500 amex or the $1350 sports authority? I haven't received letter for those yet. Just seeing if any of you got them yet.[/quoteb91b667454]


Since no one answered me I will take that as a no. Maybe those gifts are going to be redeemed the old way.[/quoteb91b667454]

I got both yesterday.

skinnyhoops

25-01-2009 11:36:42

I've been researching those prepaid $1000 VISA's u can purchase online and some places like Commerce will require you to use a Commerce credit card to purchase them online. It's in the FAQ.

Looks like Amex is the way to go

bruman

25-01-2009 11:38:51

Anyone find a good Visa Gift Card that has ATM capabilities? All the ones I'm finding don't have ATM.

slambam

25-01-2009 11:59:44

I googled mpell solutions, i like how this kid works there and job description says "arrive and get paid". this next week might be a tad different for him....

http//www.myspace.com/mj44bb0405

DRay9911

25-01-2009 12:12:58

christopher "why the hell do i have 153 friend requests and e-mails asking me about brandarama???"

-dan


[quote0321e6340b="slambam"]I googled mpell solutions, i like how this kid works there and job description says "arrive and get paid". this next week might be a tad different for him....

http//www.myspace.com/mj44bb0405[/quote0321e6340b]

nic3456

25-01-2009 12:22:21

So what are everyone's thought on if this new process makes the income tax free? If it comes in the the form of a rebate is it no longer taxable?

For example, if I buy a PC from Dell and they have $100 rebate I don't have to pay taxes on that. So would this be the same?

desertwilite

25-01-2009 12:41:49

[quote6afc61ead4="nic3456"]So what are everyone's thought on if this new process makes the income tax free? If it comes in the the form of a rebate is it no longer taxable?

For example, if I buy a PC from Dell and they have $100 rebate I don't have to pay taxes on that. So would this be the same?[/quote6afc61ead4]

Does anyone remember Cyberrebate? You paid for stuff and then they would rebate your money back to you. Never had to sign a w9 for them if I remember correctly.

Eeyore

25-01-2009 12:57:21

[quote36c438080c="nic3456"]So what are everyone's thought on if this new process makes the income tax free? If it comes in the the form of a rebate is it no longer taxable?

For example, if I buy a PC from Dell and they have $100 rebate I don't have to pay taxes on that. So would this be the same?[/quote36c438080c]

It pretty much depends on what ARG does with those W9's we sent in. If they go in the shredder and not to the IRS then yeah, it's like a rebate. If they go to the IRS then you'll be taxed twice...once when you earn the upfront money and again via the W9.

However, in some cases rebates [b36c438080c]are[/b36c438080c] taxable so consult a reliable tax advisor and not an Internet message board.

hum1m9e8r8b

25-01-2009 13:06:40

[quote44afac85de="bruman"]Anyone find a good Visa Gift Card that has ATM capabilities? All the ones I'm finding don't have ATM.[/quote44afac85de]
You can buy them at walmart.
$8.94 setup fee
$4.94 monthly fee
$1.94 per atm transaction + $x atm owner fee

steveyankee

25-01-2009 13:08:11

[quotee6c2cb423e="hum1m9e8r8b"][quotee6c2cb423e="bruman"]Anyone find a good Visa Gift Card that has ATM capabilities? All the ones I'm finding don't have ATM.[/quotee6c2cb423e]
You can buy them at walmart.
$8.94 setup fee
$4.94 monthly fee
$1.94 per atm transaction + $x atm owner fee[/quotee6c2cb423e]

screw that

tylerc

25-01-2009 13:11:40

You're going to lose less than $20 overall, out of $500. To me that $20 is better than waiting another year for our gifts.

steveyankee

25-01-2009 13:16:48

[quote0dc1975a79="tylerc"]You're going to lose less than $20 overall, out of $500. To me that $20 is better than waiting another year for our gifts.[/quote0dc1975a79]



Oh please, dont try to act like spending $20 per letter is a good thing.

Swat1

25-01-2009 13:45:50

[quotee1b493165f="steveyankee"][quotee1b493165f="tylerc"]You're going to lose less than $20 overall, out of $500. To me that $20 is better than waiting another year for our gifts.[/quotee1b493165f]



Oh please, dont try to act like spending $20 per letter is a good thing.[/quotee1b493165f]

lol, you're either broke as hell or cheap as hell. where do you live? detroit, or flint?

MamaToldMeDIY

25-01-2009 13:49:14

He's probably one of the ones that received 30 letters in the mail yesterday...lol

30x20=600

ouch

steveyankee

25-01-2009 14:06:53

[quote25aff38ac0="Swat1"][quote25aff38ac0="steveyankee"][quote25aff38ac0="tylerc"]You're going to lose less than $20 overall, out of $500. To me that $20 is better than waiting another year for our gifts.[/quote25aff38ac0]



Oh please, dont try to act like spending $20 per letter is a good thing.[/quote25aff38ac0]

lol, you're either broke as hell or cheap as hell. where do you live? detroit, or flint?[/quote25aff38ac0]


broke as hell?

im upfronting the cost for all 8 gifts with my debit card

and where did you get the idea I live in Michigan?

tylerc

25-01-2009 14:15:11

[quotea0757aa088="steveyankee"][quotea0757aa088="Swat1"][quotea0757aa088="steveyankee"][quotea0757aa088="tylerc"]You're going to lose less than $20 overall, out of $500. To me that $20 is better than waiting another year for our gifts.[/quotea0757aa088]



Oh please, dont try to act like spending $20 per letter is a good thing.[/quotea0757aa088]

lol, you're either broke as hell or cheap as hell. where do you live? detroit, or flint?[/quotea0757aa088]


broke as hell?

im upfronting the cost for all 8 gifts with my debit card

and where did you get the idea I live in Michigan?[/quotea0757aa088]

Well, unlike you most likely did, I didn't fraud Brandarama and I can afford to spend $20/letter.

steveyankee

25-01-2009 14:17:18

[quote505613c944="tylerc"][quote505613c944="steveyankee"][quote505613c944="Swat1"][quote505613c944="steveyankee"][quote505613c944="tylerc"]You're going to lose less than $20 overall, out of $500. To me that $20 is better than waiting another year for our gifts.[/quote505613c944]



Oh please, dont try to act like spending $20 per letter is a good thing.[/quote505613c944]

lol, you're either broke as hell or cheap as hell. where do you live? detroit, or flint?[/quote505613c944]


broke as hell?

im upfronting the cost for all 8 gifts with my debit card

and where did you get the idea I live in Michigan?[/quote505613c944]

Well, unlike you most likely did, I didn't fraud Brandarama and I can afford to spend $20/letter.[/quote505613c944]



Ok you do that, I'll laugh when this isn't even legit and you wasted $20 per letter lol lol lol

bruman

25-01-2009 14:27:01

For anyone buying multiple Gift Cards for multiple CTS Gifts -- what are you going to do?

For example if you're buying 5 Gift Cards, you would need them to all be separate orders/on separate receipts. Could I just tell the cashier (or bank in my case since I'm pretty sure I'm buying them at a bank), to make them all separate orders?

heather77

25-01-2009 14:28:02

I never repeat an offer, but I'm expecting 9 letters. That's about 36 offers total, but with how many offers go in and out of Brandarama, that's only a fraction of unique offers on all of their sites in the course of a year... So just because you did a ton of offers, that doesn't mean you're frauding the company.
Anyhoo, did everyone get their letters already or what? I live in CA, but I didn't get anything yet....

Eeyore

25-01-2009 14:29:13

[quote95640852c9="steveyankee"]Ok you do that, I'll laugh when this isn't even legit and you wasted $20 per letter lol lol lol[/quote95640852c9]Fair enough. As long as I can laugh at you while spending my "free" $1800 while you get nothing.

dubbin87

25-01-2009 14:33:37

Oh look a pissing match broke out, so who figured out that they had the biggest E-penis?

MamaToldMeDIY

25-01-2009 14:39:41

I'm hung like a baby

prizejunkie

25-01-2009 14:55:14

can you use a paypal invoice?

mistertomlinson

25-01-2009 14:58:47

[quotee2778fb536="MamaToldMeDIY"]I'm hung like a baby[/quotee2778fb536]

I've always liked saying, "I'm hung like a newborn." Has a better ring to it.

Anywho, I have a really bad feeling about this, but first thing in the morning, I'll be ordering $5,000 worth of elevtronics from Amazon.com. ( I'm guessing I'll have to wait for the packages to arrive before I can send in my certificates. I had considered printing off my invoices just as soon as I place my order and sending them those, but I'm afraid they'll take any excuse to DQ me...

fanofpurple

25-01-2009 15:11:01

[quote999fce2a61="mistertomlinson"][quote999fce2a61="MamaToldMeDIY"]I'm hung like a baby[/quote999fce2a61]

I've always liked saying, "I'm hung like a newborn." Has a better ring to it.

Anywho, I have a really bad feeling about this, but first thing in the morning, I'll be ordering $5,000 worth of elevtronics from Amazon.com. ( I'm guessing I'll have to wait for the packages to arrive before I can send in my certificates. I had considered printing off my invoices just as soon as I place my order and sending them those, but I'm afraid they'll take any excuse to DQ me...[/quote999fce2a61]

I know what you mean. Just make sure you have separate receipts for your certificates. I didn't get any letters yet - I am assuming they will arrive tomorrow - but will wait to shop until they come.

ploppsdman

25-01-2009 15:11:54

I am cautioning everyone to assume mpell will screw us in the same way Brandarama has .... if you have no money like me, assume that and act accordingly .... having 500 tied up in a bunch of visa gift cards would screw me if I weren't reimbursed.

For the record, I will buy something and sell it so there's no reason for them to disqualify me.

Swat1

25-01-2009 16:42:40

i have a receipt for a blackberry bold from last week for like 400+...do you think that will work or does it have to be from now until later.


also, do they reimburse tax and other fees?

ashilef

25-01-2009 17:12:52

[quote6c22ad05ed="heather77"]I never repeat an offer, but I'm expecting 9 letters. That's about 36 offers total, but with how many offers go in and out of Brandarama, that's only a fraction of unique offers on all of their sites in the course of a year... So just because you did a ton of offers, that doesn't mean you're frauding the company.
Anyhoo, did everyone get their letters already or what? I live in CA, but I didn't get anything yet....[/quote6c22ad05ed]

I haven't received mine yet, and I live in the pacific northwest.

poser

25-01-2009 17:20:51

[quoteb3815009d2="bennyboy5768"]I guess its good I have a World Mastercard (google it) so I can buy $5000 in giftcards and pay the balance with the giftcards. On the other hand, I'd be in for a lawsuit...[/quoteb3815009d2]

I have the same card, how do you do this?

Eeyore

25-01-2009 17:47:58

[quotea5926d8cad="Swat1"]i have a receipt for a blackberry bold from last week for like 400+...do you think that will work or does it have to be from now until later.


also, do they reimburse tax and other fees?[/quotea5926d8cad]

Purchases have to be made on or after January 26. The reimbursement is for the single item amount. I doubt they will be including sales tax or shipping charges in that.

bennyboy5768

25-01-2009 17:51:19

What about buying things from Macys for those who need several thousand dollars spent. Get a Waterford vase of take a look at the sterling silver flatware. Maybe a coach purse for your mom/girlfriend. I had no idea this stuff was at Macys.

bennyboy5768

25-01-2009 17:53:17

[quote404983a0a2="poser"][quote404983a0a2="bennyboy5768"]I guess its good I have a World Mastercard (google it) so I can buy $5000 in giftcards and pay the balance with the giftcards. On the other hand, I'd be in for a lawsuit...[/quote404983a0a2]

I have the same card, how do you do this?[/quote404983a0a2]

Then you should know that you have a revolving credit limit and anything purchased over your limit can be approved depending on your previous purchases. Call your CC company and ask for specific details.

poser

25-01-2009 18:02:01

[quote381845a27a="bennyboy5768"][quote381845a27a="poser"][quote381845a27a="bennyboy5768"]I guess its good I have a World Mastercard (google it) so I can buy $5000 in giftcards and pay the balance with the giftcards. On the other hand, I'd be in for a lawsuit...[/quote381845a27a]

I have the same card, how do you do this?[/quote381845a27a]

Then you should know that you have a revolving credit limit and anything purchased over your limit can be approved depending on your previous purchases. Call your CC company and ask for specific details.[/quote381845a27a]

My limit is high enough to cover my costs, I was wondering how you can pay the balance with the gift cards.

bennyboy5768

25-01-2009 18:12:21

[quote5d3770b5d5="poser"][quote5d3770b5d5="bennyboy5768"][quote5d3770b5d5="poser"][quote5d3770b5d5="bennyboy5768"]I guess its good I have a World Mastercard (google it) so I can buy $5000 in giftcards and pay the balance with the giftcards. On the other hand, I'd be in for a lawsuit...[/quote5d3770b5d5]

I have the same card, how do you do this?[/quote5d3770b5d5]

Then you should know that you have a revolving credit limit and anything purchased over your limit can be approved depending on your previous purchases. Call your CC company and ask for specific details.[/quote5d3770b5d5]

My limit is high enough to cover my costs, I was wondering how you can pay the balance with the gift cards.[/quote5d3770b5d5]

Sorry, I misunderstood you. By paying your balance with a giftcard you need to withdraw the money on the giftcard from an ATM/ect and deposit the funds into your checking account and pay. Unfortunately we still haven't found a good ATM giftcard yet.

tylerc

25-01-2009 18:19:49

http//www.giftcards.com/product/Visa_Green_ATM_gift_cards

??

bruman

25-01-2009 18:37:30

[quotee2912b0eeb="tylerc"]http//www.giftcards.com/product/Visa_Green_ATM_gift_cards

??[/quotee2912b0eeb]

Looks alright. You can only withdraw $150 per day though, so kind of sucks for $500 Cards (would have to pay ATM fees 4 times).

ILoveToys

25-01-2009 19:00:49

I remember when I did get the $1000 visa from brandarama ages ago, I was able to take 990 out of the ATM in one shot with that. It'd have let me do the $1000 if it wasn't for the fees and the $10 increments.

Just wish I knew where they go their cards back then....

tiffrnwhitney

25-01-2009 19:04:24

I thought the name of the cards were iCards. Yea that was sweet being about to go to the ATM and cash out.

tylerc

25-01-2009 19:10:31

http//www.icardgiftcard.com/index.cfm?action=bulk

Looks like to buy anything over $250 in a card you have to buy from their corporate orders (up to $5,000). Not sure what it takes to get a "corporate account" or whatever they require to order a gift card.

soccerbud

25-01-2009 19:10:34

[quote5f859764a4="tiffrnwhitney"]I thought the name of the cards were iCards. Yea that was sweet being about to go to the ATM and cash out.[/quote5f859764a4]

here it is

http//www.icardgiftcard.com/

however, individuals can purchase gift cards up to $250 max.
Corporates can purchase gift carts up to $2500 max.

Dunno how one can qualify as a corporation though.

tylerc

25-01-2009 19:14:04

Wow, we had pretty much the same post at the exact same time. High five!

EDIT

nevermind

dmorris68

25-01-2009 19:15:58

[quote6fddace327="ploppsdman"]having 500 tied up in a bunch of visa gift cards would screw me if I weren't reimbursed.[/quote6fddace327]
Huh? The whole point of buying gift cards would be so you don't have all your money tied up. You can spend your gift cards like cash immediately, it's not like you have to hold on to them and wait for the rebate.

Worst case, if they screw you, you're only out any fees associated with buying the gift cards, not the whole $500.

wiebelhaus03

25-01-2009 19:45:31

anybody else get an undelivered email= when trying to contact email=support@mpellinc.comsupport@mpellinc.com when trying to contact email=support@mpellinc.comsupport@mpellinc.com/email ?

ghounds07

25-01-2009 19:52:06

I was going to hop on this Visa train, but now I've decided that I'll just go and buy something for over $500 and then return it the next day, why aren't more people doing this? No fees involved at all (unlike the ATM way)...

Zags1199

25-01-2009 19:57:43

It's email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email.

bruman

25-01-2009 20:03:49

Maybe someone should ask them if it's ok to return your item after you've gotten a receipt for it. I would assume it would be against their policy as they are offering cash-"back" and returning it to after you've gotten the receipt kind of defeats the purpose. And if enough people do this and MPell catches on I could see them implementing stricter policies to prevent that.

favored

25-01-2009 20:05:57

[quote416d5a0ac9="bruman"]Maybe someone should ask them if it's ok to return your item after you've gotten a receipt for it. I would assume it would be against their policy as they are offering cash-"back" and returning it to after you've gotten the receipt kind of defeats the purpose. And if enough people do this and MPell catches on I could see them implementing stricter policies to prevent that.[/quote416d5a0ac9]

That is the last question anyone should ask them. It's your item - sell it on ebay, give it away, whatever. What business is it of theirs.

ghounds07

25-01-2009 20:08:33

There is no way for them to tell whether or not you returned the item or not.

hum1m9e8r8b

25-01-2009 20:09:32

[quote793681dbef="Eeyore"][quote793681dbef="Swat1"]i have a receipt for a blackberry bold from last week for like 400+...do you think that will work or does it have to be from now until later.


also, do they reimburse tax and other fees?[/quote793681dbef]

Purchases have to be made on or after January 26. The reimbursement is for the single item amount. I doubt they will be including sales tax or shipping charges in that.[/quote793681dbef]
That's incorrect, at least in my 2 instances. You have a 30 day period from whatever date that is printed in your letter.

Also, I purchased 2 Simon giftcards at my local simon mall. $2 registration fee per card. The max load amount is $500 per card. No other fees until about 14 months or so.
edit you also can't make 2 giftcard purchases at simon on the same debit/credit card. So in my case I used a credit card and a debit card.

steveyankee

25-01-2009 20:12:14

So I over looked a letter, and one was for the H2 Hummer Rental for a Day site.

They valued it at $500 for anyone else who did that gift.

bruman

25-01-2009 20:16:28

[quote32ed448dcb="favored"][quote32ed448dcb="bruman"]Maybe someone should ask them if it's ok to return your item after you've gotten a receipt for it. I would assume it would be against their policy as they are offering cash-"back" and returning it to after you've gotten the receipt kind of defeats the purpose. And if enough people do this and MPell catches on I could see them implementing stricter policies to prevent that.[/quote32ed448dcb]

That is the last question anyone should ask them. It's your item - sell it on ebay, give it away, whatever. What business is it of theirs.[/quote32ed448dcb]

Their entire business model is surrounded by this. How do they make money?... People can't front the money and thus do not redeem the certificate. That's how they make money. If they see people trying to sneak through the system by purchasing something and returning it, from a business-profit perspective, they very well might do something about it (such as requiring scanned credit card receipts or whatever like YF Direct requires).

bruman

25-01-2009 20:19:40

[quotedb1bcec515="hum1m9e8r8b"][quotedb1bcec515="Eeyore"][quotedb1bcec515="Swat1"]i have a receipt for a blackberry bold from last week for like 400+...do you think that will work or does it have to be from now until later.


also, do they reimburse tax and other fees?[/quotedb1bcec515]

Purchases have to be made on or after January 26. The reimbursement is for the single item amount. I doubt they will be including sales tax or shipping charges in that.[/quotedb1bcec515]
That's incorrect, at least in my 2 instances. You have a 30 day period from whatever date that is printed in your letter.

Also, I purchased 2 Simon giftcards at my local simon mall. $2 registration fee per card. The max load amount is $500 per card. No other fees until about 14 months or so.
edit you also can't make 2 giftcard purchases at simon on the same debit/credit card. So in my case I used a credit card and a debit card.[/quotedb1bcec515]

Are you sure? The general consensus is that it's only valid for purchases made 1/26-2/26. Check your certificate again at the very bottom, next to your signature. Mine all say "Date Issues 1/26/09".

edgespeeder04

25-01-2009 20:36:39

now i haven't received a form yet but I am curious as to how they benefit from this?


and why they can't just continue what they were doing?

bruman

25-01-2009 20:44:54

Brandarama saved 50-80% of the sum total of what they originally owed all of us by going through MPell. MPell is able to offer this discount because a lot of people don't redeem their certificates. The general assumption (because this is how MPell has done business in the past) is that Brandarama has already paid MPell off (whatever the originally owed to us, minus 50-80%) for all of these gifts and that fulfillment is now entirely in the hands of MPell.

ploppsdman

25-01-2009 20:44:57

having 500 tied up in a bunch of visa gift cards would screw me if I weren't reimbursed.
Huh? The whole point of buying gift cards would be so you don't have all your money tied up. You can spend your gift cards like cash immediately, it's not like you have to hold on to them and wait for the rebate.

Worst case, if they screw you, you're only out any fees associated with buying the gift cards, not the whole $500.


Most of my bills are paid through my checking account and to undo that would be a huge pain, and in some cases, impossible. Student loans, for example. If I had all this money tied up in visa gift cards, I'd be screwed. If you've got a lot of money, this isn't a problem. If you don't, it is. And that's the point.

ashilef

25-01-2009 20:50:01

[quoteb3dca97999="ghounds07"]I was going to hop on this Visa train, but now I've decided that I'll just go and buy something for over $500 and then return it the next day, why aren't more people doing this? No fees involved at all (unlike the ATM way)...[/quoteb3dca97999]

Because for some reason people seem to think that it's scamming the company if we do that. I honestly don't see how, when there is no stipulation on what you do once you buy your own gift.

bruman

25-01-2009 20:55:57

Go ahead and send them an e-mail then, get it settled. Just be like if I buy something, decide I don't want it and return it, is that going to be a problem? Unless you're afraid of what they'll say.

ashilef

25-01-2009 21:01:43

[quote6d2dbc9e4a="bruman"]Go ahead and send them an e-mail then, get it settled. Just be like if I buy something, decide I don't want it and return it, is that going to be a problem? Unless you're afraid of what they'll say.[/quote6d2dbc9e4a]

Even if someone were to send them an email asking that question and for whatever the reason they say no, do you think that will stop anyone from doing what they want to do? It all comes down to how would they know whether or not the item was returned.

HYPE.

25-01-2009 21:04:30

Ok guys, I looked through pages 35-45 or so and I just can't read any more. I was CTS October 18th for a $500 AMEX and I expected it soon. I haven't gotten a letter yet. Since I'm confirmed for an AMEX card, could I just go buy a $500 AMEX card and send that receipt in? Then I'll get a $500 check? If I was confirmed for an actual gift, could I buy a GC, or would I need to buy that specific gift itself?

If they actually ship fast I'd definitely do a few more of these before they go out, the potential losses are so small but you can make a boatload of cash off of this real quick.

ashilef

25-01-2009 21:05:58

[quote238a48c3e2="HYPE."]Ok guys, I looked through pages 35-45 or so and I just can't read any more. I was CTS October 18th for a $500 AMEX and I expected it soon. I haven't gotten a letter yet. Since I'm confirmed for an AMEX card, could I just go buy a $500 AMEX card and send that receipt in? Then I'll get a $500 check? If I was confirmed for an actual gift, could I buy a GC, or would I need to buy that specific gift itself?

If they actually ship fast I'd definitely do a few more of these before they go out, the potential losses are so small but you can make a boatload of cash off of this real quick.[/quote238a48c3e2]

My understanding is that you can pretty much buy whatever you want for the amount owed to you. Just send them the receipt and they will pay you back.

Powerbook

25-01-2009 21:18:30

Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.

ashilef

25-01-2009 21:33:18

[quotef68a88f616="Powerbook"]Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.[/quotef68a88f616]

You are right they might be reading...so from now on nobody should talk about how they will go about getting their gifts and just do it.

bruman

25-01-2009 21:35:41

[quoteee1456a012="ashilef"][quoteee1456a012="Powerbook"]Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.[/quoteee1456a012]

You are right they might be reading...so from now on nobody should talk about how they will go about getting their gifts and just do it.[/quoteee1456a012]

They are probably going to read you saying that.

tylerc

25-01-2009 21:46:54

Especially now that you quoted him.

Swat1

25-01-2009 22:05:51

[quote32b65b58be="bruman"]Brandarama saved 50-80% of the sum total of what they originally owed all of us by going through MPell. MPell is able to offer this discount because a lot of people don't redeem their certificates. The general assumption (because this is how MPell has done business in the past) is that Brandarama has already paid MPell off (whatever the originally owed to us, minus 50-80%) for all of these gifts and that fulfillment is now entirely in the hands of MPell.[/quote32b65b58be]

....and if you look at the cert. it says if you sign it, you agree to get more spam and junk mail.

wiebelhaus03

25-01-2009 22:22:14

so are we dealing with mpellsolutions or mpellinc because they are not the same company....

hum1m9e8r8b

25-01-2009 22:26:34

[quote3a410a6ae1="bruman"][quote3a410a6ae1="hum1m9e8r8b"][quote3a410a6ae1="Eeyore"][quote3a410a6ae1="Swat1"]i have a receipt for a blackberry bold from last week for like 400+...do you think that will work or does it have to be from now until later.


also, do they reimburse tax and other fees?[/quote3a410a6ae1]

Purchases have to be made on or after January 26. The reimbursement is for the single item amount. I doubt they will be including sales tax or shipping charges in that.[/quote3a410a6ae1]
That's incorrect, at least in my 2 instances. You have a 30 day period from whatever date that is printed in your letter.

Also, I purchased 2 Simon giftcards at my local simon mall. $2 registration fee per card. The max load amount is $500 per card. No other fees until about 14 months or so.
edit you also can't make 2 giftcard purchases at simon on the same debit/credit card. So in my case I used a credit card and a debit card.[/quote3a410a6ae1]

Are you sure? The general consensus is that it's only valid for purchases made 1/26-2/26. Check your certificate again at the very bottom, next to your signature. Mine all say "Date Issues 1/26/09".[/quote3a410a6ae1]
You're absolutely right. So does that exclude a purchase of 2 visa cards that I made yesterday, 1/25?

mistertomlinson

25-01-2009 22:28:19

First off, the whole reason this is bogus Say I owe Bob Shitass $50... I go to my friend Kent Asstomouth and pay him $25 to take care of this candyass and tell ol' Bob he's shit outta luck, do you really think that'll float?! Heeeeeell no! I STILL owe Mr. Shitass his money... No question!

Secondly, if I decide to return my gift, so be it. If Brandarama had originally given me what was owed to me, I'm entitled to do whatever I want with it... And Brandarama wouldn't be concerned. We're all jumping through hoops in the first place. They want us to buy something and give them a copy of the receipts... Done. Thanks for the gift. Now there's no way in hell they can tell us what to do with out gifts. Not that I'm saying I'll be returning anything, I just think we're putting up with enough here to worry about every little detail that could cause conflict. We'll do as the letter says and expect what was already owed to us.

orangejuice

25-01-2009 22:29:39

they are the same company, look its the exact same wording.

The one thing that bothers me is this..

Q What is an acceptable Proof of Purchase?
A We will accept virtually any receipt/invoice or order confirmation, which you received from the company that offered you your free product. The receipt or order confirmation should have something on it that identifies your order, like an order number


they make the wording confusing. The way it looks to me is that they want a receipt from the company that offered you the free gift? what the hell does that mean?

wiebelhaus03

25-01-2009 22:42:05

they are not the same company/site, i was just talking to the owner of mpellinc (phillip adler) through email, and he said

"we are mpellinc.com

we sold mpellsolutions.com years ago and are not affiliated"

I then asked if affiliated at all with brandarama/Active Response Group fulfillment, and he said they were not affiliated at all.

So what i'm wondering is if all this information is correct because i bet a few people called the wrong mpell company....

bennyboy5768

25-01-2009 22:57:35

Corporate accounts on icardgiftcard.com

[ieebb97b922]What are the differences between and “Individual” and a “Corporate” order? “Individual” orders must be personalized and may only be sent to the cardholder’s billing address. “Individual” orders are paid for with a credit card when checking out online. “Corporate” orders may be personalized or non-personalized. Cards may be sent in bulk and to 3rd party addresses. “Corporate” customers are emailed an invoice and have the option to pay by credit card (up to $5,000), check, ACH or wire transfer.


How do I qualify to place “Corporate” orders? To qualify for “Corporate Orders”, you must be a duly organized company in “Good Standing” in one of the 50 states with a valid Federal Tax ID Number. You may also qualify to place corporate orders as a “dba” sole proprietor having a SSN or EIN. Additionally, you must fully complete our online account set up and receive approval from iCARD. [/ieebb97b922]

madmanx33

26-01-2009 01:59:04

Anyone know where I can purchase a $1000 visa gift card?

MamaToldMeDIY

26-01-2009 03:13:11

The letter says date issued 1/26/09, but it also says "a purchase within 30 days from the issue date"


it doesn't say before or after.

fanofpurple

26-01-2009 04:35:45

I think their vague wording is a bunch of BS. I plan to call them today and ask a few questions - we'll see what they have to say. I don't think it is necessary(or wise) to ask about returning the items we buy. It is none of their business what I do with my gift. I can give it away, sell it, throw it out for all they care. I think the less it is discussed here, the better.

cdabelle2

26-01-2009 04:59:08

Walmart offers a greendot Visa card for a few bucks. It is reloadable by purchasing greendot money packs that you can purchase in amounts up to $1100. These cards do have pin numbers. I don't know if you can use the first card that you purchase at ATM's but you can get cash back at checkout with no fee. Would purchasing one of these reload packs work?

tp24

26-01-2009 06:06:48

[quoteab457146f7="ILoveToys"]I remember when I did get the $1000 visa from brandarama ages ago, I was able to take 990 out of the ATM in one shot with that. It'd have let me do the $1000 if it wasn't for the fees and the $10 increments.

Just wish I knew where they go their cards back then....[/quoteab457146f7]

I still have one of those cards, they're from prepaidcardholder.com

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 06:08:31

I'm not good at timezones. Is it 2 hours til the lines open?

tiffrnwhitney

26-01-2009 06:18:22

Yea, don't send emails asking them about returns. Just let it be! Do what you want or need to do with the products you buy. It is not any of their business as to what you do with the products you buy.

fanofpurple

26-01-2009 06:26:19

[quote2d1d3c94dc="kwoodyk34k"]I'm not good at timezones. Is it 2 hours til the lines open?[/quote2d1d3c94dc]

Right now it is almost 630PST - I think they open at 8am PST. So 1 1/2 hours.

livingloud28

26-01-2009 06:41:27

They open on eastern time they are open now just there lines are busy !

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 06:42:20

[quotef048d71a08="fanofpurple"][quotef048d71a08="kwoodyk34k"]I'm not good at timezones. Is it 2 hours til the lines open?[/quotef048d71a08]

Right now it is almost 630PST - I think they open at 8am PST. So 1 1/2 hours.[/quotef048d71a08]

The letter says 9am PST.
So 2.5 hours.

Well... I'll be in classes from 7-1 PST

I'll hop back on here then and see what you all found out ]

Good luck! Lookin' forward to it! lol.

livingloud28

26-01-2009 06:45:26

I thought you was talking about Brandarama my bad. D

orangejuice

26-01-2009 07:07:05

you have class at 7am? i dont wake up until about 1pm some days

steveyankee

26-01-2009 07:16:33

Won't there be two transactions if you buy a gift card at a store such as wal mart tho? Like on the receipt, will it have the gift card amount transaction and the activation fee transaction?

They will probably pay the lowest transaction on the receipt.

Schwowsers

26-01-2009 07:32:49

[quoteecc2da2465="steveyankee"]Won't there be two transactions if you buy a gift card at a store such as wal mart tho? Like on the receipt, will it have the gift card amount transaction and the activation fee transaction?

They will probably pay the lowest transaction on the receipt.[/quoteecc2da2465]

The letter states that "only the highest value purchase will be reimbursed, up to the value of your prize," so that shouldn't be an issue.

dougp70

26-01-2009 07:33:57

Has anyone received a letter for something that was CTS around 11/08? Just curious, because this is my first time and I am expecting a XBOX 360 Elite. Will they be doing the Mpell thing with items other than giftcards?

Eeyore

26-01-2009 07:38:07

[quoteb8ccb16acb="bruman"]Maybe someone should ask them if it's ok to return your item after you've gotten a receipt for it. I would assume it would be against their policy as they are offering cash-"back" and returning it to after you've gotten the receipt kind of defeats the purpose. And if enough people do this and MPell catches on I could see them implementing stricter policies to prevent that.[/quoteb8ccb16acb]

Requiring the recipient to spend an equivalent amount of money to receive their "gift" kind of defeats the purpose of giving it, too, so I'm not too worried about what happens after I spend the dough and get the receipt. Especially since it would be impossible to document proof of possession for a set period of time and I could easily take a picture of the item and use that as documentation anyway.

However, those who submit receipts dated before today are probably in for a world of hurt. The certificates were not valid until the 26th.

desertwilite

26-01-2009 07:38:15

[quote23e30336e9="dougp70"]Has anyone received a letter for something that was CTS around 11/08? Just curious, because this is my first time and I am expecting a XBOX 360 Elite. Will they be doing the Mpell thing with items other than giftcards?[/quote23e30336e9]

Yes and yes. All gifts are being handled the Mpell way

livingloud28

26-01-2009 07:42:03

Have you spoken with a rep at brandarama to confirm this ?

desertwilite

26-01-2009 07:43:43

[quote5944bda05c="livingloud28"]Have you spoken with a rep at brandarama to confirm this ?[/quote5944bda05c]
Yes, an email confirmed that. I entered that here somewhere but it's buried!

livingloud28

26-01-2009 07:54:33

Well I have no money and I am not getting 13 gifts so I am not sure what to do my credit stinks cause past college loans so I have no credit cards . Arrgh !

manOFice

26-01-2009 07:55:37

[quote523bf5a854="livingloud28"]Well I have no money and I am not getting 13 gifts so I am not sure what to do my credit stinks cause past college loans so I have no credit cards . Arrgh ![/quote523bf5a854]

Yep, I don't have the money either.

DRay9911

26-01-2009 07:57:43

someone who has a handful of tangible items posted the amounts that were on the certificates.

if anyone is expecting something from brandarama should be receiving a letter from mpell. if the don't receive the letter by the end of the week, you should give MPELL (not brandarama) a call.

their number is somewhere in the last 10 or so pages of this thread

[quote2b39e594a0="tp24"][quote2b39e594a0="ILoveToys"]I remember when I did get the $1000 visa from brandarama ages ago, I was able to take 990 out of the ATM in one shot with that. It'd have let me do the $1000 if it wasn't for the fees and the $10 increments.

Just wish I knew where they go their cards back then....[/quote2b39e594a0]

I still have one of those cards, they're from prepaidcardholder.com[/quote2b39e594a0]

i thought about going that route on saturday. i went through my old posts because i received a $1k card and posted in the brag bag. if you go to prepaidcardholder.com, it says "prepaid solutions USA" at the very top of the screen. if you go to prepaidsolutions.com, it only looks like they sell the cards in quanities (not individual cards).

i already figured out what i'm going to do

1) $1,000 amex card
2) $600 wallimart card

i can use the amex card to make my daily purchases wherever amex is accepted, and i go to wallimart every week or two. i'll have the certificates in the mail before the end of the week.

i really suggest buying a visa (amex) card or giftcard to wherever you shop the most. it's will be much easier in the long run than all the crazy crap some of you are coming up with in your heads.

-dan

Zags1199

26-01-2009 08:03:11

If someone calls before I get a chance, can you please ask if it's ok that the address on your ID is different than your current mailing address? Thank you.

imapepper

26-01-2009 08:09:04

anyone receive a letter for the 37" Plasma? Just curious of the amount they are quoting.

Thx

Daggoth

26-01-2009 08:11:21

I just email'd Brandarama and they said [b3d50bdc1b9]the only way to receive your gift is by using this program.[/b3d50bdc1b9]

For those without money, you can either use a credit card to buy and return an item, find someone who has made a big purchase recently, or, if you are willing to take the risk, use a copy of a receipt of another person using the program.

livingloud28

26-01-2009 08:20:58

This really stinks I hope I can get my $1350 sports authority and other gifts are they doing this only for confirmed to ship items or everything including things that I have not sent the paper work off for ?

bruman

26-01-2009 08:22:55

I e-mailed them and they said all future gifts will be handled by mpell as well.

klangy

26-01-2009 08:25:25

I have not yet received my letters. I am going to mpellsolutions.com for listing of gifts they offer. There is a limit on gift cards they offer. Am I looking at the wrong site? Don't know how you would order a $500.00 or $1000.00 card?

manOFice

26-01-2009 08:35:07

[quotec5b267dd7c="klangy"]I have not yet received my letters. I am going to mpellsolutions.com for listing of gifts they offer. There is a limit on gift cards they offer. Am I looking at the wrong site? Don't know how you would order a $500.00 or $1000.00 card?[/quotec5b267dd7c]

You have to buy it yourself from a 3rd party vendor and then send in your receipt to get reimbursed

klangy

26-01-2009 08:39:58

[quote361107c1f8="manOFice"][quote361107c1f8="klangy"]I have not yet received my letters. I am going to mpellsolutions.com for listing of gifts they offer. There is a limit on gift cards they offer. Am I looking at the wrong site? Don't know how you would order a $500.00 or $1000.00 card?[/quote361107c1f8]

You have to buy it yourself from a 3rd party vendor and then send in your receipt to get reimbursed[/quote361107c1f8]

I have been reading through the threads and thought I read you could buy $1000.00 American Express through them? So they offer nothing through them?

poser

26-01-2009 08:40:32

[quote24eeb234ae="imapepper"]anyone receive a letter for the 37" Plasma? Just curious of the amount they are quoting.

Thx[/quote24eeb234ae]

$1500

RolltheStampede

26-01-2009 09:14:17

[quotee6a027a41e="DRay9911"]someone who has a handful of tangible items posted the amounts that were on the certificates.

if anyone is expecting something from brandarama should be receiving a letter from mpell. if the don't receive the letter by the end of the week, you should give MPELL (not brandarama) a call.

their number is somewhere in the last 10 or so pages of this thread

[quotee6a027a41e="tp24"][quotee6a027a41e="ILoveToys"]I remember when I did get the $1000 visa from brandarama ages ago, I was able to take 990 out of the ATM in one shot with that. It'd have let me do the $1000 if it wasn't for the fees and the $10 increments.

Just wish I knew where they go their cards back then....[/quotee6a027a41e]

I still have one of those cards, they're from prepaidcardholder.com[/quotee6a027a41e]

i thought about going that route on saturday. i went through my old posts because i received a $1k card and posted in the brag bag. if you go to prepaidcardholder.com, it says "prepaid solutions USA" at the very top of the screen. if you go to prepaidsolutions.com, it only looks like they sell the cards in quanities (not individual cards).

i already figured out what i'm going to do

1) $1,000 amex card
2) $600 wallimart card

i can use the amex card to make my daily purchases wherever amex is accepted, and i go to wallimart every week or two. i'll have the certificates in the mail before the end of the week.

i really suggest buying a visa (amex) card or giftcard to wherever you shop the most. it's will be much easier in the long run than all the crazy crap some of you are coming up with in your heads.

-dan[/quotee6a027a41e]

desert posted some a few pages back.

orangejuice

26-01-2009 09:18:04

i just got 17 letters today. going out over the next 3 days and spending 10,000 bucks on stuff at best buy

dubbin87

26-01-2009 09:22:48

[quote4ce04cb250="orangejuice"]i just got 17 letters today. going out over the next 3 days and spending 10,000 bucks on stuff at best buy[/quote4ce04cb250]

Have fun, I just got back from there picking up a new 32" LCD.. D

Eeyore

26-01-2009 09:25:29

[quote9fb9f9dd59="orangejuice"]i just got 17 letters today. going out over the next 3 days and spending 10,000 bucks on stuff at best buy[/quote9fb9f9dd59]
Just make sure it's 17 separate transactions on 17 different receipts... 8)

manOFice

26-01-2009 09:26:12

If these work just like mail in rebates work, one tiny tiny miss print on anything and you're sol

janarae

26-01-2009 09:26:41

[quote9c6a6f59e1="dougp70"]Has anyone received a letter for something that was CTS around 11/08? Just curious, because this is my first time and I am expecting a XBOX 360 Elite. Will they be doing the Mpell thing with items other than giftcards?[/quote9c6a6f59e1]

I was confirmed in late Oct 08 for $300 Visa so I imagine you will get a letter. I got all of mine today. I believe they were to be sent for gifts through Dec 08.

bruman

26-01-2009 09:29:36

So are you sending your certs out today dubbin?
I have 13 letters, so I'll probably send em all throughout probably 3 batches over the course of the next couple weeks.

terryishere

26-01-2009 09:30:46

recieved mpell letter today//live in virginia

bruman

26-01-2009 09:32:21

[quotee8400a4b0a="Eeyore"][quotee8400a4b0a="orangejuice"]i just got 17 letters today. going out over the next 3 days and spending 10,000 bucks on stuff at best buy[/quotee8400a4b0a]
Just make sure it's 17 separate transactions on 17 different receipts... 8)[/quotee8400a4b0a]

Some people are probably going to screw that up. If you're buying more than one item for this thing you [ue8400a4b0a]HAVE[/ue8400a4b0a] to tell the cashier you want them all on separate receipts.

manOFice

26-01-2009 09:33:39

[quote9f621a26b5="terryishere"]recieved mpell letter today//live in virginia[/quote9f621a26b5]

i'll prob get mine today as well

dubbin87

26-01-2009 09:34:31

[quote5aa1b18d10="bruman"]So are you sending your certs out today dubbin?
I have 13 letters, so I'll probably send em all throughout probably 3 batches over the course of the next couple weeks.[/quote5aa1b18d10]

I haven't got my certs yet. Should be here this afternoon. I've been holding onto the BB card I got a few weeks back and just wanted to treat myself. 8) Since the receipt is dated today I'll still be able to apply it to one of the cards.

MamaToldMeDIY

26-01-2009 09:35:30

Received my 3 today

time to get a 1k Amex & 2x 500 Visas

let's goooooo

edgespeeder04

26-01-2009 09:52:09

I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says we have to do this, why cant they just send us a check for the amount listed, I don't understand what they get from us buying something and sending them a paper with a receipt and so forth.

MattMcQ

26-01-2009 09:56:30

are there no restocking fees on unopened items at bestbuy?

dubbin87

26-01-2009 10:01:19

So who's called Mpell? Report back! We need more awnsers! lol

livingloud28

26-01-2009 10:05:09

so can I send they any receipt I find lol

Eeyore

26-01-2009 10:07:39

[quote4907b0b769="edgespeeder04"]I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says we have to do this, why cant they just send us a check for the amount listed, I don't understand what they get from us buying something and sending them a paper with a receipt and so forth.[/quote4907b0b769]

Read back through this thread. Kim from Brandarama confirmed that this is now their brave new world of gift fulfillment.

What they get out of it is they pay Mpell far less than they'd have to spend actually sending the proper gift directly, and Mpell controls their payout by maximizing the number of people who don't participate due to the buy-in requirement or can't follow directions (see the January 26 start date many here have already screwed up on).

skinnyhoops

26-01-2009 10:11:31

I ordered my $1000 Amex at 2am this morning (1/26/09)
They shipped it at 7am. WOO! LOL

As soon as I get it i'm mailing in my certificate!

manOFice

26-01-2009 10:15:49

Lets hope mpell is ready to shell out a hell of a lot of money

nwong82

26-01-2009 10:16:13

omg I got my 15 letters in the mail today. What if we done send back the certs??? I don't see anything about not getting our gift. Will we get put back on the waiting list???

nwong82

26-01-2009 10:16:44

omg I got my 15 letters in the mail today. What if we done send back the certs??? I don't see anything about not getting our gift. Will we get put back on the waiting list???

bruman

26-01-2009 10:17:47

[quoted194fa15c3="nwong82"]omg I got my 15 letters in the mail today. What if we done send back the certs??? I don't see anything about not getting our gift. Will we get put back on the waiting list???[/quoted194fa15c3]

CS has confirmed that it's either this or nothing. You have 30 days.

manOFice

26-01-2009 10:20:32

[quote2a9f11a4cf="bruman"][quote2a9f11a4cf="nwong82"]omg I got my 15 letters in the mail today. What if we done send back the certs??? I don't see anything about not getting our gift. Will we get put back on the waiting list???[/quote2a9f11a4cf]

CS has confirmed that it's either this or nothing. You have 30 days.[/quote2a9f11a4cf]

Yep and all future gift fulfillment will be done this way

DRay9911

26-01-2009 10:20:47

that's pretty generous of them.

-dan



[quote1adfff8728="poser"][quote1adfff8728="imapepper"]anyone receive a letter for the 37" Plasma? Just curious of the amount they are quoting.

Thx[/quote1adfff8728]

$1500[/quote1adfff8728]

sUrface1080

26-01-2009 10:22:08

How are people doing the Visa gift cards? Can you buy anything and then send in a recipt for it? Or do you have to buy a visa gift card for the amount you were supposed to get from BR?

ashilef

26-01-2009 10:23:40

[quotea632c22b3f="sUrface1080"]How are people doing the Visa gift cards? Can you buy anything and then send in a recipt for it? Or do you have to buy a visa gift card for the amount you were supposed to get from BR?[/quotea632c22b3f]

You can buy pretty much whatever you want just as long as you get a valid receipt for it.

manOFice

26-01-2009 10:29:43

[quotee04ad0059e="sUrface1080"]How are people doing the Visa gift cards? Can you buy anything and then send in a recipt for it? Or do you have to buy a visa gift card for the amount you were supposed to get from BR?[/quotee04ad0059e]

you can buy anything as in one item

RolltheStampede

26-01-2009 10:31:23

Ill take anyones refund if they dont have the money to spend on it )

manOFice

26-01-2009 10:32:43

[quote655468351e="RolltheStampede"]Ill take anyones refund if they dont have the money to spend on it )[/quote655468351e]

you can buy mine from me

j/k

JANGALANG32

26-01-2009 10:36:54

thats true they can be used by anyone...id probably buy some too maybe up to half price. people should ebay them and post the link here. ive already mailed out my 5 certificates so now the wait is on...again

edgespeeder04

26-01-2009 10:37:02

Well it just sucks, for those of us who are getting several thousands worth of gifts, we need to go buy items worth that much? but do we send them an actual receipt or copy? because for example I got one for the toshiba laptop worth $1000 --- I don't money to spend on a $1000 visa or anything else, i was just going to use the money little by little to pay for bills, and like my other college students on here......how are we suppose to do this? -(

Just sucks

manOFice

26-01-2009 10:42:06

[quote802b333993="edgespeeder04"]Well it just sucks, for those of us who are getting several thousands worth of gifts, we need to go buy items worth that much? but do we send them an actual receipt or copy? because for example I got one for the toshiba laptop worth $1000 --- I don't money to spend on a $1000 visa or anything else, i was just going to use the money little by little to pay for bills, and like my other college students on here......how are we suppose to do this? -(

Just sucks[/quote802b333993]

Read about th 10 pages worth of info on this subject, you are stuck like me, no money to front to get it back, you have no other options

JANGALANG32

26-01-2009 10:42:14

ebay it! if you could get half price for it i think it would be a good deal. if brandarama asked me if i would take half payment right now for all my gifts i would probably do it

manOFice

26-01-2009 10:43:19

[quote54015be8d0="JANGALANG32"]ebay it! if you could get half price for it i think it would be a good deal. if brandarama asked me if i would take half payment right now for all my gifts i would probably do it[/quote54015be8d0]

I would do that too as in accept half the price but no way would I ebay them...

edgespeeder04

26-01-2009 10:45:27

[quote2420f8584d="manOFice"][quote2420f8584d="edgespeeder04"]Well it just sucks, for those of us who are getting several thousands worth of gifts, we need to go buy items worth that much? but do we send them an actual receipt or copy? because for example I got one for the toshiba laptop worth $1000 --- I don't money to spend on a $1000 visa or anything else, i was just going to use the money little by little to pay for bills, and like my other college students on here......how are we suppose to do this? -(

Just sucks[/quote2420f8584d]

Read about th 10 pages worth of info on this subject, you are stuck like me, no money to front to get it back, you have no other options[/quote2420f8584d]

yah I read it all, very sad news for us.

But I have an idea.....how about We buy a $1000 visa, mail the receipt in for that and then use that to buy another Two $500 Visas, would that work? Ofcourse buying the $500 ones separately on different receipts

or even spending $500 on one item and $500 on another item?

JANGALANG32

26-01-2009 10:46:18

so your going to let them go to waste? whatever its your situation.

i personaly like what brandarama did. now i get all my gifts paid in cash instead of an 825$ nordstroms gift card.

manOFice

26-01-2009 10:46:32

[quote100a30f80e="edgespeeder04"][quote100a30f80e="manOFice"][quote100a30f80e="edgespeeder04"]Well it just sucks, for those of us who are getting several thousands worth of gifts, we need to go buy items worth that much? but do we send them an actual receipt or copy? because for example I got one for the toshiba laptop worth $1000 --- I don't money to spend on a $1000 visa or anything else, i was just going to use the money little by little to pay for bills, and like my other college students on here......how are we suppose to do this? -(

Just sucks[/quote100a30f80e]

Read about th 10 pages worth of info on this subject, you are stuck like me, no money to front to get it back, you have no other options[/quote100a30f80e]

yah I read it all, very sad news for us.

But I have an idea.....how about We buy a $1000 visa, mail the receipt in for that and then use that to buy another Two $500 Visas, would that work? Ofcourse buying the $500 ones separately on different receipts

or even spending $500 on one item and $500 on another item?[/quote100a30f80e]

Sure you can do that but the problem is... some people don't have the cash to front but reading most of these posts it seems about 90% of the people can and are fronting the money

bruman

26-01-2009 10:48:45

Has anyone gotten an e-mail reply from them today? I'm waiting on a reply until I start making my purchases.

edgespeeder04

26-01-2009 10:53:14

[quote2ddeb28a76="manOFice"][quote2ddeb28a76="edgespeeder04"][quote2ddeb28a76="manOFice"][quote2ddeb28a76="edgespeeder04"]Well it just sucks, for those of us who are getting several thousands worth of gifts, we need to go buy items worth that much? but do we send them an actual receipt or copy? because for example I got one for the toshiba laptop worth $1000 --- I don't money to spend on a $1000 visa or anything else, i was just going to use the money little by little to pay for bills, and like my other college students on here......how are we suppose to do this? -(

Just sucks[/quote2ddeb28a76]

Read about th 10 pages worth of info on this subject, you are stuck like me, no money to front to get it back, you have no other options[/quote2ddeb28a76]

yah I read it all, very sad news for us.

But I have an idea.....how about We buy a $1000 visa, mail the receipt in for that and then use that to buy another Two $500 Visas, would that work? Ofcourse buying the $500 ones separately on different receipts

or even spending $500 on one item and $500 on another item?[/quote2ddeb28a76]

Sure you can do that but the problem is... some people don't have the cash to front but reading most of these posts it seems about 90% of the people can and are fronting the money[/quote2ddeb28a76]

oh yeah I agree, I don't neither but I did had planned on buying a wrecked mustang for less $1000 to fix it so think I can use that too?

tp24

26-01-2009 10:54:20

I'm waiting for them also. I'll post the answers once I got them.

dubbin87

26-01-2009 10:55:08

[quotee8229f0d6c="bruman"]Has anyone gotten an e-mail reply from them today? I'm waiting on a reply until I start making my purchases.[/quotee8229f0d6c]

I jsut got a reply to a few questions I asked last friday. You realized they have been bombbarded with emails and calls today... Might take a while to get a current question in.

Schwowsers

26-01-2009 10:56:16

Honestly, if you don't have the money to front for this, I would just photoshop some receipts. After all, this is complete bullshit they're pulling on us, so I see nothing wrong with that.

wiebelhaus03

26-01-2009 10:57:09

http//www.buy.com/prod/sharp-lc-52d64u-52-widescreen-1080p-lcd-hdtv-10000-1-dynamic-contrast/q/loc/111/205118003.html?adid=17070&dcaid=17070

awesome 52" tv for $1399 if your looking to get rid of the 1k visa/ $1350 sports authority

steveyankee

26-01-2009 11:05:00

I called them while at best buy to confirm a few questions.

I asked if I can buy a $499.99 item which after tax, will bring it to around $530. They said that's fine, they will just pay up to the $500.

tp24

26-01-2009 11:13:38

[quote56aebc2bcc="dubbin87"][quote56aebc2bcc="bruman"]Has anyone gotten an e-mail reply from them today? I'm waiting on a reply until I start making my purchases.[/quote56aebc2bcc]

I jsut got a reply to a few questions I asked last friday. You realized they have been bombbarded with emails and calls today... Might take a while to get a current question in.[/quote56aebc2bcc]

Did you ask them whether you can give it to anyone and let them redeem it? I just need confirmation on that.

DRay9911

26-01-2009 11:14:10

i'm not one to say that people need to be banned for some of the crap they post, but this is a little over the top.

-dan



[quote3ef95373d4="Schwowsers"]Honestly, if you don't have the money to front for this, I would just photoshop some receipts. After all, this is complete bullshit they're pulling on us, so I see nothing wrong with that.[/quote3ef95373d4]

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 11:39:13

Can't get through via phone. It disconnected me both times at the 5 minute mark.

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 11:42:44

Lmao oh. Oops. I forgot the 800

snarky

26-01-2009 11:44:48

[quote36f73265c2="manOFice"][quote36f73265c2="JANGALANG32"]ebay it! if you could get half price for it i think it would be a good deal. if brandarama asked me if i would take half payment right now for all my gifts i would probably do it[/quote36f73265c2]

I would do that too as in accept half the price but no way would I ebay them...[/quote36f73265c2]

How much do you have, and how would you want to work it out? I can go to a store buy stuff, mail you the reciepts, and then you pay me 1/2 in paypal...unless there is another way you can think of.

dubbin87

26-01-2009 11:47:33

[quote7b4ecf57bd="DRay9911"]i'm not one to say that people need to be banned for some of the crap they post, but this is a little over the top.

-dan



[quote7b4ecf57bd="Schwowsers"]Honestly, if you don't have the money to front for this, I would just photoshop some receipts. After all, this is complete bullshit they're pulling on us, so I see nothing wrong with that.[/quote7b4ecf57bd][/quote7b4ecf57bd]

People have gotten banned for less around here...

dubbin87

26-01-2009 11:48:32

[quotef43b23f77b="steveyankee"]I called them while at best buy to confirm a few questions.

I asked if I can buy a $499.99 item which after tax, will bring it to around $530. They said that's fine, they will just pay up to the $500.[/quotef43b23f77b]

Good going steve. 8) nice to know the tv I bought for 497 I'll get my 3 for tax and such. lol

skooter22c

26-01-2009 11:50:28

dubbin87 you gonna let us in on the questions and answers you got or leave us hangin'? Thanks

dubbin87

26-01-2009 11:56:41

[quote844ec515f5="skooter22c"]dubbin87 you gonna let us in on the questions and answers you got or leave us hangin'? Thanks[/quote844ec515f5]


I asked if the sky was blue where they are at. shock

madmanx33

26-01-2009 11:59:02

Hmm im still unable to figure out where to buy a $1000 visa gift card. I called them and they told me that banks generally sell them. I called every major bank in the area and none of them do. Bofa WAMu

Anyone recommend anything?

manOFice

26-01-2009 11:59:30

are we positive the receipts don't have to be in our names?

My boss is actually building a house right now...i'm sure he's buying stuff worth more than what i'm getting... only problem would be convincing him to give me a copy of his receipt...

Eeyore

26-01-2009 12:01:50

A post at JoshClark says Mpell will consider two $500 visas as one $1000 as long as the $1000 visa is what the certificate is for. Otherwise you're still on the one-item-per-certificate limit.

snarky

26-01-2009 12:02:34

[quote6336e295fc="manOFice"]are we positive the receipts don't have to be in our names?

My boss is actually building a house right now...i'm sure he's buying stuff worth more than what i'm getting... only problem would be convincing him to give me a copy of his receipt...[/quote6336e295fc]


when you buy something from a store, your name is not on the reciept, especially if you pay cash.

snarky

26-01-2009 12:04:02

[quote1bfa8472a0="snarky"][quote1bfa8472a0="manOFice"]are we positive the receipts don't have to be in our names?

My boss is actually building a house right now...i'm sure he's buying stuff worth more than what i'm getting... only problem would be convincing him to give me a copy of his receipt...[/quote1bfa8472a0]


when you buy something from a store, your name is not on the reciept, especially if you pay cash.[/quote1bfa8472a0]


Q What is an acceptable Proof of Purchase?
A We will accept virtually any receipt/invoice or order confirmation, which you received from the company that offered you your free product. The receipt or order confirmation should have something on it that identifies your order, like an order number. back to top

Eeyore

26-01-2009 12:04:52

[quotea3782bffe2="manOFice"]are we positive the receipts don't have to be in our names?

My boss is actually building a house right now...i'm sure he's buying stuff worth more than what i'm getting... only problem would be convincing him to give me a copy of his receipt...[/quotea3782bffe2]
I bought $500 worth of stuff at Home Depot yesterday and nowhere on the receipt is my name. Only the last four digits of my credit card and the auth code. I just checked a few other recent receipts and OfficeMax and RadioShack don't put your name on receipts either.

DRay9911

26-01-2009 12:05:44

considering how that tard single handedly ruined nuitech for everyone, i'd love to read their laverne & shirley-esque ideas.

-dan



[quote6a7a6d2370="Eeyore"]A post at JoshClark says Mpell will consider two $500 visas as one $1000 as long as the $1000 visa is what the certificate is for. Otherwise you're still on the one-item-per-certificate limit.[/quote6a7a6d2370]

Eeyore

26-01-2009 12:08:04

[quoted29a247e3a="snarky"]Q What is an acceptable Proof of Purchase?
A We will accept virtually any receipt/invoice or order confirmation, which you received from the company that offered you your free product. The receipt or order confirmation should have something on it that identifies your order, like an order number. back to top[/quoted29a247e3a]

That doesn't really apply to this situation and is for point-of-purchase gift offers like a free $25 visa gift card with retail purchase. You have to have the proof of qualifying purchase to go along with the certificate they hand you at the time you bought the item. The Brandarama scenario is kind of bass-ackwards to their normal promo program.

Eeyore

26-01-2009 12:09:45

[quote1d08119c85="DRay9911"]considering how that tard single handedly ruined nuitech for everyone, i'd love to read their laverne & shirley-esque ideas.

-dan[/quote1d08119c85]

Just passing on some info that someone there got from Mpell. No need to get nasty about it.

manOFice

26-01-2009 12:09:49

[quote66607512e7="Eeyore"][quote66607512e7="manOFice"]are we positive the receipts don't have to be in our names?

My boss is actually building a house right now...i'm sure he's buying stuff worth more than what i'm getting... only problem would be convincing him to give me a copy of his receipt...[/quote66607512e7]
I bought $500 worth of stuff at Home Depot yesterday and nowhere on the receipt is my name. Only the last four digits of my credit card and the auth code. I just checked a few other recent receipts and OfficeMax and RadioShack don't put your name on receipts either.[/quote66607512e7]

Yeah I just went through a bunch of receipts in my wallet and not a single one of them had my name on it, just the last 4 numbers of the card etc...

Does anyone know if a rent receipt would be accepted? I'm paying my rent in a few days that costs a lot...and I pay it online

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 12:11:44

Me We can buy gift cards, right?

What sounded like a 13 year old girl Yes, 1 per certificate.

Me Okay now what would we use as a receipt?

WSLA13YOG Anything that has a purchase price, date, ect..

Me Now say I have a Best Buy Gift Card and I buy something with that and on the receipt it says I paid for it with a BB gift card, will I still be paid for that?

WSLA13YOG Hold on. Let me ask my supervisor.

click

Calls back

Answering Machine

Calls back

Answering Machine

skinnyhoops

26-01-2009 12:12:55

with buying two $500 visa's for a $1000 certificate is kinda risky, even though the customer service rep said it was okay. I'm pretty sure the customer service reps aren't the ones that process our cash-backs.

I remember on Friday that someone called Mpell to ask if something intangible could be used as a purchase and they were misinformed by the customer service rep, the rep ended up calling him back and saying the intangible purchase he was inquiring about can't be used with the certificate. The intangible purchase in question was a mortgage payment or something

dubbin87

26-01-2009 12:13:39

[quotee133a3d8ec="manOFice"][quotee133a3d8ec="Eeyore"][quotee133a3d8ec="manOFice"]are we positive the receipts don't have to be in our names?

My boss is actually building a house right now...i'm sure he's buying stuff worth more than what i'm getting... only problem would be convincing him to give me a copy of his receipt...[/quotee133a3d8ec]
I bought $500 worth of stuff at Home Depot yesterday and nowhere on the receipt is my name. Only the last four digits of my credit card and the auth code. I just checked a few other recent receipts and OfficeMax and RadioShack don't put your name on receipts either.[/quotee133a3d8ec]

Yeah I just went through a bunch of receipts in my wallet and not a single one of them had my name on it, just the last 4 numbers of the card etc...

Does anyone know if a rent receipt would be accepted? I'm paying my rent in a few days that costs a lot...and I pay it online[/quotee133a3d8ec]

Not really directed at you but everyone asking questions like this. Rather than ask us who have no idea how Mpell works, why not give them a call or email?

Schwowsers

26-01-2009 12:14:34

[quote69a1794dfc="dubbin87"]People have gotten banned for less around here...[/quote69a1794dfc]

So ban me. I mailed in my forms and I'm done with the incentive scene. As wonderful as this site is, I now have no use for it.

I hope you all manage to get your rewards.

DRay9911

26-01-2009 12:15:24

it was not directed at you (unless you're josh clark).

i traded e-mails with someone at mpell on friday and was told the same thing that you originally posted.

what you can't do is buy 3 cards ($1k, $500 and $100) to save on shipping to redeem two certificates ($1k and $600). you need to make two purchases ($1k and then $500 & $100)

-dan



[quote0754fd0ba7="Eeyore"][quote0754fd0ba7="DRay9911"]considering how that tard single handedly ruined nuitech for everyone, i'd love to read their laverne & shirley-esque ideas.

-dan[/quote0754fd0ba7]

Just passing on some info that someone there got from Mpell. No need to get nasty about it.[/quote0754fd0ba7]

manOFice

26-01-2009 12:15:35

[quoteab18e9de81="skinnyhoops"]with buying two $500 visa's for a $1000 certificate is kinda risky, even though the customer service rep said it was okay. I'm pretty sure the customer service reps aren't the ones that process our cash-backs.

I remember on Friday that someone called Mpell to ask if something intangible could be used as a purchase and they were misinformed by the customer service rep, the rep ended up calling him back and saying the intangible purchase he was inquiring about can't be used with the certificate. The intangible purchase in question was a mortgage payment or something[/quoteab18e9de81]

damn, there goes that idea

hawke12

26-01-2009 12:17:05

So from what I've gathered so far, if we buy one item that's over the amount of your gift, they will simply rebate the amount of the gift. I have a $250 macys certificate, and a $500 Visa Cert.

We're planning on buying a 50" plasma and a xbox 360 with our income tax anyways, I'll just buy them on separate receipts if that's how they're doing it.

manOFice

26-01-2009 12:19:49

[quote03dbade283="hawke12"]So from what I've gathered so far, if we buy one item that's over the amount of your gift, they will simply rebate the amount of the gift. I have a $250 macys certificate, and a $500 Visa Cert.

We're planning on buying a 50" plasma and a xbox 360 with our income tax anyways, I'll just buy them on separate receipts if that's how they're doing it.[/quote03dbade283]

yep and you have 30 days to do it

doylnea

26-01-2009 12:20:12

folks - stop beating up on each other.
folks - stop talking about ways to beat or game the system.

folks - thanks.

Eeyore

26-01-2009 12:21:41

[quote1a816f7ed4="DRay9911"]it was not directed at you (unless you're josh clark).

i traded e-mails with someone at mpell on friday and was told the same thing that you originally posted.

what you can't do is buy 3 cards ($1k, $500 and $100) to save on shipping to redeem two certificates ($1k and $600). you need to make two purchases ($1k and then $500 & $100)

-dan[/quote1a816f7ed4]
Nope, definitely not josh clark.

Sorry if you posted that earlier. This thread is hard enough to follow in real time let alone remember what was posted on page 17. shock

JANGALANG32

26-01-2009 12:33:15

[quotebe717df678="snarky"][quotebe717df678="manOFice"][quotebe717df678="JANGALANG32"]ebay it! if you could get half price for it i think it would be a good deal. if brandarama asked me if i would take half payment right now for all my gifts i would probably do it[/quotebe717df678]

I would do that too as in accept half the price but no way would I ebay them...[/quotebe717df678]

How much do you have, and how would you want to work it out? I can go to a store buy stuff, mail you the reciepts, and then you pay me 1/2 in paypal...unless there is another way you can think of.[/quotebe717df678]


i have about 5,000 worth of certificates...ill sell them to you for 2500$. you pay with a credit card at my website and then ill send you the certificates. then you have full control over the buying and redeeming of the gifts

klangy

26-01-2009 12:34:47

I have been trying all morning to get through to them and just did-no you do not have to have your name on the receipt. I asked her 2 times. She said just on the certificate. I also asked if it needed to be notarized-she said no.
So as long as you have original certificate-and copy of receipt it sounds like there should not be a problem. I would make copies of everything sent and good notes on this-especially if you have many gifts.

hawke12

26-01-2009 12:34:56

[quoteb1ddbb050a="manOFice"]
yep and you have 30 days to do it[/quoteb1ddbb050a]

Yeah I read that part.

Sucks when ya wait over a year for a "FREE" gift only to be told you have to wait ANOTHER 8-10 weeks to get it after you shell out the cash upfront lol. But i guess at least there's a real time frame with the shipping.

dubbin87

26-01-2009 12:41:20

[quote25d79e8b5a="klangy"]I have been trying all morning to get through to them and just did-no you do not have to have your name on the receipt. I asked her 2 times. She said just on the certificate. I also asked if it needed to be notarized-she said no.
So as long as you have original certificate-and copy of receipt it sounds like there should not be a problem. I would make copies of everything sent and good notes on this-especially if you have many gifts.[/quote25d79e8b5a]

yeah i went and bought a new ink cartridge for my printer. Everything is getting copied that I'm sending in.

jvine860

26-01-2009 12:51:39

[quote241af22810="DRay9911"]considering how that tard single handedly ruined nuitech for everyone, i'd love to read their laverne & shirley-esque ideas.

-dan



[quote241af22810="Eeyore"]A post at JoshClark says Mpell will consider two $500 visas as one $1000 as long as the $1000 visa is what the certificate is for. Otherwise you're still on the one-item-per-certificate limit.[/quote241af22810][/quote241af22810]

Your not very smart. He helped so many. Its the people who made anything he did popular. And it got very popular. You can't blame him for something. If you want a name to put on it fine, but its all the scammers who abused the system who are to blame...Maybe you are one of them scammers, the real people who are to blame for any of the sites going south fast.

RyanG

26-01-2009 12:53:40

[quote7f3bba92b2="doylnea"]folks - stop beating up on each other.
folks - stop talking about ways to beat or game the system.

folks - thanks.[/quote7f3bba92b2]

dubbin87

26-01-2009 12:54:53

My certs just showed up.

For the 37" Plasma they are giving $1500 for that.
For the compaq Presario v6120us 15.4 notbook they are giving $960

luumon

26-01-2009 12:58:12

fyi target offer gift cards up to $2000. I'm not sure how they distribute the amount though.

manOFice

26-01-2009 12:58:17

[quote1b26b59859="dubbin87"]My certs just showed up.

For the 37" Plasma they are giving $1500 for that.
For the compaq Presario v6120us 15.4 notbook they are giving $960[/quote1b26b59859]

The real steal is that 37" in tv you are all getting for 1500 bucks, that tv today would probably cost like 400-500 bux max

tp24

26-01-2009 12:58:23

I just received an answer through e-mail that said that you are not allowed to give it to another person, which sucks.

But this is why you have to be careful, it seems like their answers can vary.

manOFice

26-01-2009 12:59:18

[quote2cb4c106fb="tp24"]I just received an answer through e-mail that said that you are not allowed to give it to another person, which sucks.

But this is why you have to be careful, it seems like their answers can vary.[/quote2cb4c106fb]

I wouldn't see them allowing that anyways...

ryan.b08

26-01-2009 13:00:30

Can anyone comment on this site? It was posted earlier but attracted little attention.
https//www.myreadycard.com/aboutcard.aspx?node=fees

Is it a legit source? This would seem as the best option as far as ATM withdrawals for $1000 Visa's.

dubbin87

26-01-2009 13:07:10

[quotea78e936a03="manOFice"][quotea78e936a03="dubbin87"]My certs just showed up.

For the 37" Plasma they are giving $1500 for that.
For the compaq Presario v6120us 15.4 notbook they are giving $960[/quotea78e936a03]

The real steal is that 37" in tv you are all getting for 1500 bucks, that tv today would probably cost like 400-500 bux max[/quotea78e936a03]

I know. D

Zags1199

26-01-2009 13:11:47

Sigh, I didn't get my letters, and I'm in WA. I'm wondering what the hell is going on.

luumon

26-01-2009 13:12:47

does anyone know buying airline tickets would work. not me but a family member

rustvyper

26-01-2009 13:19:50

Just got my 3 letters. My $600 Amex is on tap for December so I may wait on that one, but my $500 macys & $825 Nordstroms are May & July. I may try this with them. I can purchase a Visa GC or what not for a small fee then I'm really not out any money & plus I get the CC points. I'm seriously considering it!

manOFice

26-01-2009 13:22:20

[quote3b192e372b="luumon"]does anyone know buying airline tickets would work. not me but a family member[/quote3b192e372b]

I don't see why not

DRay9911

26-01-2009 13:34:38

i'm sure the site is legit, but it is designed for people who don't or can't get a bank account. i'm in the payroll department for the company i work for and banks are always trying to have us pass out their information so our employees can start up direct deposit with them.

you are better off just buying a gift card and using that for your everyday purchases instead of trying to buy something just so you can run to the ATM.

-dan



[quote70e58b414b="ryan.b08"]Can anyone comment on this site? It was posted earlier but attracted little attention.
https//www.myreadycard.com/aboutcard.aspx?node=fees

Is it a legit source? This would seem as the best option as far as ATM withdrawals for $1000 Visa's.[/quote70e58b414b]

tml09

26-01-2009 13:38:42

Does anyone know if the recipt can be old (like in the past year) or does it have to be recent?

RolltheStampede

26-01-2009 13:40:19

it has to be (1-26)-(2-26)

bruman

26-01-2009 13:40:32

[quote47f0ff491b="tml09"]Does anyone know if the recipt can be old (like in the past year) or does it have to be recent?[/quote47f0ff491b]

It's only good for purchases made from 1/26-2/26.

Eeyore

26-01-2009 13:41:26

It has to be from today (assuming that your issue date is January 26, 2009) through 30 days from now, or Feb. 26.

edit RTS wins...

desertwilite

26-01-2009 13:43:45

[quotee82c9a5659="bruman"][quotee82c9a5659="tml09"]Does anyone know if the recipt can be old (like in the past year) or does it have to be recent?[/quotee82c9a5659]

It's only good for purchases made from 1/26-2/26.[/quotee82c9a5659]
And since there are 31 days in January, I believe 2/25 will be the cut off point.

bruman

26-01-2009 13:44:13

Anyone know if the credit card used has to be in your exact name? For example, using a spouse or parents credit card? I'm talking about online purchases here which have that information clearly listed.

LucaBella

26-01-2009 13:59:50

[quotea1c9caf03f="ashilef"][quotea1c9caf03f="Powerbook"]Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.[/quotea1c9caf03f]

You are right they might be reading...so from now on nobody should talk about how they will go about getting their gifts and just do it.[/quotea1c9caf03f]

Yeah, when I told you that you gave me attitude...

At least you're on board with the plan now... All we need to do is shut Bruman up, and things will go well...

cdabelle2

26-01-2009 14:02:17

manofice- can you buy a gift card for the amount of your rent and mail in that receipt then pay your rent online with the gift card.

manOFice

26-01-2009 14:07:57

[quote3168dd5d56="cdabelle2"]manofice- can you buy a gift card for the amount of your rent and mail in that receipt then pay your rent online with the gift card.[/quote3168dd5d56]

I can pay my rent with a CC/Debit Card whatever for like a 6 dollar fee, I dont do it because of the fee usually but I could buy a giftcard and then pay for the rent like that if they allowed it but I have other plans so I don't have to do that now

tiffrnwhitney

26-01-2009 14:17:15

Wow, I just completed some serious shopping. Man, they better send me my money back! LOL

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 14:19:07

[quote2d7b1ebbcc="luumon"]does anyone know buying airline tickets would work. not me but a family member[/quote2d7b1ebbcc]

They might just pay for 1 ticket.
Seriously.

skinnyhoops

26-01-2009 14:27:43

Here's a response I received from Mpell regarding the purchase of (2) Best Buy $500 Gift Cards to equal my certificate for $1000 Circuit City. Please read carefully.

Hello,
If your gift certificate is for $1,000 Circuit City Gift Cards, then you may purchase two $500 dollar Circuit City Gift Cards to equal the $1,000. If you purchase two $500 dollar Best Buy gift cards, you will only be reimbursed for $500 or you may purchase a single tangible item somewhere else for $1,000 or more. Remember, you will be reimbursed for the single highest purchase up to the amount of the certificate.
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service

chewy

26-01-2009 15:01:18

man i gotta find a gift card to buy for $2500. this sucks!

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 15:04:42

[quote09d03e54b8="chewy"]man i gotta find a gift card to buy for $2500. this sucks![/quote09d03e54b8]

Amex has them to 3k but no ATM withdraw.

luumon

26-01-2009 15:16:01

kinda a stupid question. but if i buy a mattress for $500. I pay for the item between 3-4 different gift cards. that would be okay right? I still get my $500 not just 1 amount being paid.

Gman14

26-01-2009 15:16:54

apparently I got something in the mail from rewardsparade about my $500 ticketmaster giftcard. They want me to purchase something first, and then they'll send me a rebate for the purchase price. I was cts in february last year. I haven't gotten to actually read the letter because it was sent to my house and im at my college, but the letter read to my on the phone... sounds kinda fishy. I didn't think they were even at february yet. anyone know whats with this letter?

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 15:18:04

[quoted1b6aa84d4="luumon"]kinda a stupid question. but if i buy a mattress for $500. I pay for the item between 3-4 different gift cards. that would be okay right? I still get my $500 not just 1 amount being paid.[/quoted1b6aa84d4]

I asked today on the phone and she said "Let me ask my supervisor."
Then she hung up on me.
And I called back and no one answered anymore...

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 15:18:50

[quote0a63504d13="Gman14"]apparently I got something in the mail from rewardsparade about my $500 ticketmaster giftcard. They want me to purchase something first, and then they'll send me a rebate for the purchase price. I was cts in february last year. I haven't gotten to actually read the letter because it was sent to my house and im at my college, but the letter read to my on the phone... sounds kinda fishy. I didn't think they were even at february yet. anyone know whats with this letter?[/quote0a63504d13]

Yeah, read the last 10+ pages

chewy

26-01-2009 15:23:03

[quote17dc9307d2="kwoodyk34k"][quote17dc9307d2="chewy"]man i gotta find a gift card to buy for $2500. this sucks![/quote17dc9307d2]

Amex has them to 3k but no ATM withdraw.[/quote17dc9307d2]

im definatly looking to take the cash out if at all possible

mistertomlinson

26-01-2009 15:25:14

Yeah... god damn, I just spent $5,100 on two credit cards at Amazon.com and jr.com. I really wish I could print off my invoices now and mail them in, but I don't know if that's considered an acceptable proof of purchase. It sure would save me some time. I chose the free shipping option on everything so I wont be getting the stuff too soon. I sent an email regarding the matter but have yet to receive a response.

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 15:25:57

This is the message I get trying to sign up for My Ready Card.

"Sorry an error has occured

Please try again a few minutes or contact customer service email==customerservice@readycreditcorp.comcustomerservice@readycreditcorp.com=customerservice@readycreditcorp.comcustomerservice@readycreditcorp.com/email"

No clue why. Anyone else try?

luumon

26-01-2009 15:26:44

[quote9d74971677="kwoodyk34k"][quote9d74971677="luumon"]kinda a stupid question. but if i buy a mattress for $500. I pay for the item between 3-4 different gift cards. that would be okay right? I still get my $500 not just 1 amount being paid.[/quote9d74971677]

I asked today on the phone and she said "Let me ask my supervisor."
Then she hung up on me.
And I called back and no one answered anymore...[/quote9d74971677]

thanks for trying

skinnyhoops

26-01-2009 15:27:21

Yeah be patient with the emails because I'm sure they're getting ALOT.

I emailed them on Saturday and got a reply on Monday around 5PM EST.

wiebelhaus03

26-01-2009 15:33:48

what email= is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email and the person who answered said they were not affiliated with this at all....

oleus

26-01-2009 15:34:20

just received 5 letter Mpell letters. Honestly i'd been so concerned about my October 07 cards that i forgot i had 3 more from the summer of 08 that amounted to so much.

i feel i make a good living but i am having a hard time justifying charging over $3000 on my credit cards (i received more than that in gifts but i figure that's the amount i'd have to charge under this 30 day restriction) when i cannot be 100% sure i'd get the money back in 8-10 weeks. what if more people than they are banking on take them up on this offer? sure seems like a lot of people here are willing to start charging up their cards on this and how can we be really sure they're gonna deliver, at the very least in a timely manner?

the 30 day restriction is the killer. I guess I'll make one large purchase and use the $1000 certificate letter but i'll just use the other 4 for basic purchases and send it in for a refund anyway, even if it's just a $100 grocery bill for a certificate of $500 to $1000.

oleus

26-01-2009 15:36:59

[quote1b644428a0="wiebelhaus03"]what email= is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email and the person who answered said they were not affiliated with this at all....[/quote1b644428a0]

i haven't emailed them yet but that's the email address on the letters. posts like this make me more skeptical about this whole thing.

part of me thinks that i should act fast and take at least one my letter's offers up (before too many others do), but i really am worried about getting reimbursed at all and this is a lot of money to spend up front on speculation.

Getstuff4free Kyle

26-01-2009 15:38:51

[quote5edc68aba6="oleus"]even if it's just a $100 grocery bill for a certificate of $500 to $1000.[/quote5edc68aba6]

You'll only get reimbursed for one item on the list. You'll be better off buying a gift card for the grocery store you go to. Send in the receipt for that, and then use the gift card at the grocery store. That way you're not spending money you wouldn't have spent anyway, so if you get the money back, it's a bonus. If not, the only difference is that you spent the money sooner than you would have otherwise (i.e. buying a $500 gift card all at once, rather than spending $100 every week or two at the store).

imapepper

26-01-2009 15:42:02

The whole picture ID thing is kind of a show stopper to me...sounds fishy...I dont want them with a copy of my drivers license or passport....each has an ID that Im sure if you blurred out they would find that as non compliant to their terms and conditions.

Would you trust this company with sensitive information like that?? IDK if I do.

wiebelhaus03

26-01-2009 15:43:56

this is copy+pasted from an email= conversation i had when i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com conversation i had when i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email (it is about 4 different emails replied back and forth so it is shown in reverse chronological order)

[quote0661b38607]that is correct


Ok so this is a different fulfilment company not affiliated with brandarama/Active Response Group?

-XXXXX

Philip Adler wrote

Re brandarama letters

we are mpellinc.com

we sold mpellsolutions.com years ago and are not affiliated


Who is this then? Sorry I'm confused.

-XXXXXX

Philip Adler wrote



We're not mpellsolutions

Philip Adler
Mpell

8083584653



On Jan 25, 2009, at 657 PM,XXX <XXX> wrote


http//mpellsolutions.com/contact_us.html

I clicked on the "certificate redemption support" link

-XXXXXX

Philip Adler wrote

Can I ask who gave you this email address?




Hi. I recently received letters from Mpell after completing multiple incentive sites at brandarama and sister sites. I am wondering if you could give me a specific list of purchases that would be considered invalid.

Thanks for your time,
XXXX[/quote0661b38607]


So, I'm confused why the email from the paper actually brings me to a company that was bought out years ago? And when looking at mpellinc and mpellsolutions websites they have the exact same wording......

kwoodyk34k

26-01-2009 15:47:41

[quote3c0e330c07="oleus"]just received 5 letter Mpell letters. Honestly i'd been so concerned about my October 07 cards that i forgot i had 3 more from the summer of 08 that amounted to so much.

i feel i make a good living but i am having a hard time justifying charging over $3000 on my credit cards (i received more than that in gifts but i figure that's the amount i'd have to charge under this 30 day restriction) when i cannot be 100% sure i'd get the money back in 8-10 weeks. what if more people than they are banking on take them up on this offer? sure seems like a lot of people here are willing to start charging up their cards on this and how can we be really sure they're gonna deliver, at the very least in a timely manner?

the 30 day restriction is the killer. I guess I'll make one large purchase and use the $1000 certificate letter but i'll just use the other 4 for basic purchases and send it in for a refund anyway, even if it's just a $100 grocery bill for a certificate of $500 to $1000.[/quote3c0e330c07]

I bet they'd only pay for the most expensive single item on that grocery bill.


To everyone else,
Skip the e-mails and just call the number on your letter.
She answered first ring and was very helpful until she went to go get her supervisor and never came back.
I will try again tomorrow.

oleus

26-01-2009 15:50:37

[quote75567b5488="Getstuff4free Kyle"][quote75567b5488="oleus"]even if it's just a $100 grocery bill for a certificate of $500 to $1000.[/quote75567b5488]

You'll only get reimbursed for one item on the list. You'll be better off buying a gift card for the grocery store you go to. Send in the receipt for that, and then use the gift card at the grocery store. That way you're not spending money you wouldn't have spent anyway, so if you get the money back, it's a bonus. If not, the only difference is that you spent the money sooner than you would have otherwise (i.e. buying a $500 gift card all at once, rather than spending $100 every week or two at the store).[/quote75567b5488]

yikes good point

i'm trying to think of a few big ticket items (like a laptop i need) to go ahead and bite the bullet on, giftcards will definitely have to be involved though even if it's a $250 card being sent in for a $1000 voucher, unfortunately. if i knew for sure i'd get the money back i'd be buying gifcards in full for each one instead of typing this post.

hawke12

26-01-2009 15:53:25

Something just doesn't add up on this for me at all.


If you read the Website and I quote

[quote8c291d0db3]At Mpell, we define and deliver compelling incentive programs to your customers. We capture their attention and motivate them to action by offering the right incentive at the right time to the right customer. And we do it for you at the right price. Our outsource model enables you to quickly add or change incentive programs with a minimal amount of time and effort. It's this simple

li You add the promotion to your marketing materials
[b8c291d0db3][u8c291d0db3]li You purchase certificates from Mpell[/u8c291d0db3][/b8c291d0db3]
li You (or we) give the certificates to eligible customers
li The customer mails the certificates to Mpell
li Mpell sends the customer their free gift
li Mpell supports your customers through our 800# and email service center[/quote8c291d0db3]

NOw if they "Purchase" these certificates from them. Then why did'nt they just cut checks for everyone they owe GC's too?? why is it our responsibility to Spend the value of our Gifts and they give us Rebates back on this. this isn't how it was presented when we signed up and completed our side of the deal.

I'm really surprised noone is really looking into this a little deeper.

I mean google "mpell" and you get this

Home Page?? http//www.mpellsolutions.com/index.html

and...

Another Homepage?? http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

and even complaints already...

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

There's more to this...I foresee a Class Action Lawsuit or something.

Again why should we have to get a rebate back when they have purchased these Gift Certificates, which technically speaking these aren't even gift certificates, they're Mail-In-Rebates.

michae229

26-01-2009 15:54:08

to whoever asked they sent me a letter for the sports authority card...

let the damage begin "evil laugh"

chewy

26-01-2009 15:55:25

[quoteb4ff9053d0="hawke12"]Something just doesn't add up on this for me at all.


If you read the letter an d I quote

[quoteb4ff9053d0]At Mpell, we define and deliver compelling incentive programs to your customers. We capture their attention and motivate them to action by offering the right incentive at the right time to the right customer. And we do it for you at the right price. Our outsource model enables you to quickly add or change incentive programs with a minimal amount of time and effort. It's this simple

li You add the promotion to your marketing materials
[bb4ff9053d0][ub4ff9053d0]li You purchase certificates from Mpell[/ub4ff9053d0][/bb4ff9053d0]
li You (or we) give the certificates to eligible customers
li The customer mails the certificates to Mpell
li Mpell sends the customer their free gift
li Mpell supports your customers through our 800# and email service center[/quoteb4ff9053d0]

NOw if they "Purchase" these certificates from them. Then why did'nt they just cut checks for everyone they owe GC's too?? [bb4ff9053d0]why is it our responsibility to Spend the value of our Gifts and they give us Rebates back on this[/bb4ff9053d0]. this isn't how it was presented when we signed up and completed our side of the deal.

I'm really surprised noone is really looking into this a little deeper.

I mean google "mpell" and you get this

Home Page?? http//www.mpellsolutions.com/index.html

and...

Another Homepage?? http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

and even complaints already...

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

There's more to this...I foresee a Class Action Lawsuit or something.

Again why should we have to get a rebate back when they have purchased these Gift Certificates, which technically speaking these aren't even gift certificates, they're Mail-In-Rebates.[/quoteb4ff9053d0]


i definatly agree with that. but they must be doing it because they know everyone wont get something worth the full value, thus saving them money

imapepper

26-01-2009 15:57:18

some things seem to fishy for me here....IDK if Im willing to risk my money or my Identity to this company.

RyanG

26-01-2009 15:58:22

[quotee42284f0c8="imapepper"]The whole picture ID thing is kind of a show stopper to me...sounds fishy...I dont want them with a copy of my drivers license or passport....each has an ID that Im sure if you blurred out they would find that as non compliant to their terms and conditions.

Would you trust this company with sensitive information like that?? IDK if I do.[/quotee42284f0c8]

why are people still doubting this? they're BBB accredited with an A rating, 10 complains in the last 36 months with all of those being resolved.

Getstuff4free Kyle

26-01-2009 15:58:32

[quote7cd4388b86="hawke12"]Something just doesn't add up on this for me at all.


If you read the letter an d I quote

[quote7cd4388b86]At Mpell, we define and deliver compelling incentive programs to your customers. We capture their attention and motivate them to action by offering the right incentive at the right time to the right customer. And we do it for you at the right price. Our outsource model enables you to quickly add or change incentive programs with a minimal amount of time and effort. It's this simple

li You add the promotion to your marketing materials
[b7cd4388b86][u7cd4388b86]li You purchase certificates from Mpell[/u7cd4388b86][/b7cd4388b86]
li You (or we) give the certificates to eligible customers
li The customer mails the certificates to Mpell
li Mpell sends the customer their free gift
li Mpell supports your customers through our 800# and email service center[/quote7cd4388b86]

NOw if they "Purchase" these certificates from them. Then why did'nt they just cut checks for everyone they owe GC's too?? why is it our responsibility to Spend the value of our Gifts and they give us Rebates back on this. this isn't how it was presented when we signed up and completed our side of the deal.

I'm really surprised noone is really looking into this a little deeper.

I mean google "mpell" and you get this

Home Page?? http//www.mpellsolutions.com/index.html

and...

Another Homepage?? http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

and even complaints already...

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

There's more to this...I foresee a Class Action Lawsuit or something.

Again why should we have to get a rebate back when they have purchased these Gift Certificates, which technically speaking these aren't even gift certificates, they're Mail-In-Rebates.[/quote7cd4388b86]

Is what you quoted even in the letter? I don't see anything like that in the letter, but if it's on the webpage, remember that most of the stuff they deal with is of a different nature then what we're dealing with so it doesn't really apply (which is why the FAQ that they direct us to is useless).

And as far as the ripoffreport complaint, all that is is somebody who is in the same boat as us and is upset about it. The post on there is nothing new compared to the posts on here.

Don't get me wrong - I am skeptical, but I don't see any reason (yet) to completely discount it as a scam. That's why I recommend everyone to use the purchase on either gift cards or something you were going to buy anyway. If you have your eye on that nice new big TV that you can't afford but were going to use the prize money for, just get a gift card. If you get paid by YTB, then use the gift card for that TV. If you don't, then you have a gift card that you can use on your groceries for the next year, lol.

LucaBella

26-01-2009 16:01:44

Brandarama hired them to do a job.. it's different from what they do normally, that's all...

Getstuff4free Kyle

26-01-2009 16:05:22

[quote15e2b8afc6="chewy"]but they must be doing it because they know everyone wont get something worth the full value, thus saving them money[/quote15e2b8afc6]

Exactly. Some people will get something of a lesser value, some people won't have the money up front to buy anything and will let it go to waste and a lot of people (particularly the ones who don't read these forums) will think it's a scam and not do anything. I know when I closed down GS4F, I had a brief moment where I was contemplating sending out something that people had to respond to to get their final payment knowing that at least some people wouldn't respond and I could get off the hook for them, but that just seemed tacky and I didn't do it and just let people offer to take lower amounts to get the money faster if they wanted to. It's the same thing that's happening here. A lot of people won't respond. If they owed 1 million total (just to pick an even number - I have no idea at all how much they really owe), they could get it down to 750K or even less from people either not responding or taking less than the amount owed. It's a smart move. Assuming they pay, they'll get people still doing their sites, but not going overboard with them since they'll have to front the money for any prize. And they'll still have a lot of random people who come across their sites, figure it's worth a shot and don't bother when they find out what they have to do.

connorBC20

26-01-2009 16:11:28

For someone who doesn't mind the fees, would this be a good option for a gift card
https//www.mycardplace.com/wumaster1

steveyankee

26-01-2009 16:14:30

[quoteda973b6a21="wiebelhaus03"]what email= is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email and the person who answered said they were not affiliated with this at all....[/quoteda973b6a21]

You sure?

I got a response back from that email address with all of my questions aswered.

livingloud28

26-01-2009 16:14:50

So I am just going to buy a $300 Visa gift card . Then withdraw the cash and pay my rent with that and they will have the receipt .

tylerc

26-01-2009 16:16:45

$10, not bad.

steveyankee

26-01-2009 16:17:27

Anyways. All my forms have been sent today. First come first served ;)

MamaToldMeDIY

26-01-2009 16:18:55

I just ordered my 2x 500 Visas and 1x 1000 Visa from my bank, Navy Federal

hope this works out lol

mistertomlinson

26-01-2009 16:22:18

[quote5ea2832f16="hawke12"]Something just doesn't add up on this for me at all.


If you read the Website and I quote

[quote5ea2832f16]At Mpell, we define and deliver compelling incentive programs to your customers. We capture their attention and motivate them to action by offering the right incentive at the right time to the right customer. And we do it for you at the right price. Our outsource model enables you to quickly add or change incentive programs with a minimal amount of time and effort. It's this simple

li You add the promotion to your marketing materials
[b5ea2832f16][u5ea2832f16]li You purchase certificates from Mpell[/u5ea2832f16][/b5ea2832f16]
li You (or we) give the certificates to eligible customers
li The customer mails the certificates to Mpell
li Mpell sends the customer their free gift
li Mpell supports your customers through our 800# and email service center[/quote5ea2832f16]

[b5ea2832f16]NOw if they "Purchase" these certificates from them. Then why did'nt they just cut checks for everyone they owe GC's too??[/b5ea2832f16] why is it our responsibility to Spend the value of our Gifts and they give us Rebates back on this. this isn't how it was presented when we signed up and completed our side of the deal.

I'm really surprised noone is really looking into this a little deeper.

I mean google "mpell" and you get this

Home Page?? http//www.mpellsolutions.com/index.html

and...

Another Homepage?? http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

and even complaints already...

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

There's more to this...I foresee a Class Action Lawsuit or something.

Again why should we have to get a rebate back when they have purchased these Gift Certificates, which technically speaking these aren't even gift certificates, they're Mail-In-Rebates.[/quote5ea2832f16]

Because that's the point of them using MPell to settle their debt. They are paying LESS for these certificates than they actually owe. From 50-80% less, according to the site. For example, I received my certs for $5,000... They very well might have paid MPell $2,000 for the certs.


Seondly, [b5ea2832f16]WHERE'S MY GOD DAMN MONEY GETSTUFF4FREE KYLE?![/b5ea2832f16]

... just kidding.

dubbin87

26-01-2009 16:27:46

[quotef4e662294d="steveyankee"][quotef4e662294d="wiebelhaus03"]what email= is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email and the person who answered said they were not affiliated with this at all....[/quotef4e662294d]

You sure?

I got a response back from that email address with all of my questions aswered.[/quotef4e662294d]

that's the addy I've been using and getting replies from.

hawke12

26-01-2009 16:28:03

[quoted0ae456f9d="Getstuff4free Kyle"]Is what you quoted even in the letter? I don't see anything like that in the letter, but if it's on the webpage, remember that most of the stuff they deal with is of a different nature then what we're dealing with so it doesn't really apply (which is why the FAQ that they direct us to is useless).[/quoted0ae456f9d]

Yes I meant website, my post is corrected. But on the site they specifically Use the term "Incentive" quite a few times, which this would Apply.

And as far as only Ten complaints, there would probably be alot more, if People would've started complaining after 3 months of waiting. And I am one of the guilty ones. I waited also.

Every where you look though, and In every forum "I" have found pertaining to these kind of freebies, We all tell each other and the noobs the same thing, "Wait it out" " there Paying" "They're just behind" "look its free money, why you complaining?"

Sure they're paying people, even 7 and 8 months behind, but IMO, they kept us all strung, and doing more sites, and got us to tell others to do they're sites, while we Tell each other, "Yeah they're legit, they just take a long time to pay".

So now that They've hit they're fill, where they were probably starting to Get bombarded with complaints, the decide to do this stupid BS. In hopes that, like someone said above, the majority won't be ABLE to make the $500-$3000 + purchases that they're requiring.

Hell I know Me and My wife work our asses off, just to break even every month. We can't just shell out $1000 tomorrow, and wait probably another 6 months to get it back. We were going to use our tax refund to do this, but what if it doesn't show up within the 30 days this letter requires? You Know what I mean? I'm sure there's others that aren't as fortunate as some on here that can shell that kinda money out without thought.

All I'm saying is they're taking advantage of the guy/girl that does this to make a few extra bones, for his/her family" And I think that's shitty.

tp24

26-01-2009 16:31:05

[quote7d326ad9eb="steveyankee"][quote7d326ad9eb="wiebelhaus03"]what email= is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email and the person who answered said they were not affiliated with this at all....[/quote7d326ad9eb]

You sure?

I got a response back from that email address with all of my questions aswered.[/quote7d326ad9eb]

It seems that you can get different answers, not just from this company, but from Brandarama also, depending on who you ask. I'm guessing what's happening is that not everyone is up to date with this transition.

ashilef

26-01-2009 16:58:19

[quoteb40addb73e="Zags1199"]Sigh, I didn't get my letters, and I'm in WA. I'm wondering what the hell is going on.[/quoteb40addb73e]

I got mine today and I live south of Seattle.

ashilef

26-01-2009 17:01:13

[quote0ad217ffa0="LucaBella"][quote0ad217ffa0="ashilef"][quote0ad217ffa0="Powerbook"]Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.[/quote0ad217ffa0]

You are right they might be reading...so from now on nobody should talk about how they will go about getting their gifts and just do it.[/quote0ad217ffa0]

Yeah, when I told you that you gave me attitude...

At least you're on board with the plan now... All we need to do is shut Bruman up, and things will go well...[/quote0ad217ffa0]

I gave you attitude because you were rude about it, telling me to STFU, don't come at me crazy and I won't do the same to you! D

dubbin87

26-01-2009 17:09:05

[quote403245d8a8="ashilef"][quote403245d8a8="LucaBella"][quote403245d8a8="ashilef"][quote403245d8a8="Powerbook"]Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.[/quote403245d8a8]

You are right they might be reading...so from now on nobody should talk about how they will go about getting their gifts and just do it.[/quote403245d8a8]

Yeah, when I told you that you gave me attitude...

At least you're on board with the plan now... All we need to do is shut Bruman up, and things will go well...[/quote403245d8a8]

I gave you attitude because you were rude about it, telling me to STFU, don't come at me crazy and I won't do the same to you! D[/quote403245d8a8]

STFU!!!!!!! mrgreen

Gman14

26-01-2009 17:09:20

damn I can't believe how lame this is.

this question may already be answered somewhere in this thread but I don't have quite enough time to look at everything. Does anyone know the time frame from sending in the receipts and stuff to getting the rebate? Sorry again if this was answered. (im not going to bother if I have to wait another year. not to mention i don't even have $500 to dish out on a ticketmaster giftcard or a shitload of concert tickets)

mjforever

26-01-2009 17:09:57

[quoteb41567a217="tp24"][quoteb41567a217="steveyankee"][quoteb41567a217="wiebelhaus03"]what email= is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email and the person who answered said they were not affiliated with this at all....[/quoteb41567a217]

You sure?

I got a response back from that email address with all of my questions aswered.[/quoteb41567a217]

It seems that you can get different answers, not just from this company, but from Brandarama also, depending on who you ask. I'm guessing what's happening is that not everyone is up to date with this transition.[/quoteb41567a217]


I called them 4 times...Different CS , different answers of the same questions that i asked.

skinnyhoops

26-01-2009 17:11:02

the Mods have asked some to stop bashing each other, please ...just get over it and stop explaining yourselfs. I hate to be blunt, but nobody cares how or who hurt your feelings.

I know alot of this anger has probably escalated from this certificate issue. It is what it is.

ashilef

26-01-2009 17:15:12

[quote8088411bac="dubbin87"][quote8088411bac="ashilef"][quote8088411bac="LucaBella"][quote8088411bac="ashilef"][quote8088411bac="Powerbook"]Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.[/quote8088411bac]

You are right they might be reading...so from now on nobody should talk about how they will go about getting their gifts and just do it.[/quote8088411bac]

Yeah, when I told you that you gave me attitude...

At least you're on board with the plan now... All we need to do is shut Bruman up, and things will go well...[/quote8088411bac]

I gave you attitude because you were rude about it, telling me to STFU, don't come at me crazy and I won't do the same to you! D[/quote8088411bac]

STFU!!!!!!! mrgreen[/quote8088411bac]

lol lismiley face with middle fingerli

tp24

26-01-2009 17:19:05

[quote536b5cef41="mjforever"][quote536b5cef41="tp24"][quote536b5cef41="steveyankee"][quote536b5cef41="wiebelhaus03"]what email= is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com is everyone emailing? i emailed email=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email and the person who answered said they were not affiliated with this at all....[/quote536b5cef41]

You sure?

I got a response back from that email address with all of my questions aswered.[/quote536b5cef41]

It seems that you can get different answers, not just from this company, but from Brandarama also, depending on who you ask. I'm guessing what's happening is that not everyone is up to date with this transition.[/quote536b5cef41]

I called them 4 times...Different CS , different answers of the same questions that i asked.[/quote536b5cef41]

Yeah, someone on A4F said that you can buy two $500 gift cards(and I'd imagine any item) to redeem one $1000 certificate(as in they'll send you a check for $1000, not $500), as long as it's the same item, can anyone confirm this? That's big news if true.

orangejuice

26-01-2009 17:19:42

the whole mpell solutions and mpell inc non-relation thing really bothers me...i hope this isnt a scam. on the other hand, i just spent $2500 on a macbook pro and decided to keep it. so we'll see i guess!!

Eeyore

26-01-2009 17:21:24

[quote275dda8c42="Gman14"]Does anyone know the time frame from sending in the receipts and stuff to getting the rebate?[/quote275dda8c42]
They say 8-10 weeks.

Eeyore

26-01-2009 17:23:28

[quoted7b9a3c862="tp24"]Yeah, someone on A4F said that you can buy two $500 gift cards(and I'd imagine any item) to redeem one $1000 certificate(as in they'll send you a check for $1000, not $500), as long as it's the same item, can anyone confirm this? That's big news if true.[/quoted7b9a3c862]

It has to be for the item on the certificate, such as two $500 visas to make one $1000 visa that you were supposed to get. You can't substitute.

livingloud28

26-01-2009 17:24:29

Yeah and someone said that it could be sooner me hopes $1800 would go a little way anyways D Then I got to get my sports authority stuff in .

skinnyhoops

26-01-2009 17:29:54

tp24, here's your answer from Mpell Solutions. I asked the same question and the (2) $500 gift cards you purchase have to be the same STORE listed on your certificate

Hello,
If your gift certificate is for $1,000 Circuit City Gift Cards, then you may purchase two $500 dollar Circuit City Gift Cards to equal the $1,000. If you purchase two $500 dollar Best Buy gift cards, you will only be reimbursed for $500 or you may purchase a single tangible item somewhere else for $1,000 or more. Remember, you will be reimbursed for the single highest purchase up to the amount of the certificate.
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service

mweiss

26-01-2009 18:14:18

Can anyone confirm that they purchased the gift cards, mailed the form, and then were reimbursed? Sorry, the forum is 56 pages so it will take a while to read the whole thing. But I received 2 forms today (one for $200 jcrew gift card and one for $1000 visa)

oleus

26-01-2009 18:17:05

so say you have two $500 mpell letter/certificates. what's stopping me from buying a $500 visa giftcard for one, then using that giftcard to buy a $500 giftcard of another kind with it for the second? that way getting i would be getting reimbursed both $500 certificates while only putting up $500 correct?

Eeyore

26-01-2009 18:18:25

[quotec683ebbdaa="mweiss"]Can anyone confirm that they purchased the gift cards, mailed the form, and then were reimbursed? Sorry, the forum is 56 pages so it will take a while to read the whole thing. But I received 2 forms today (one for $200 jcrew gift card and one for $1000 visa)[/quotec683ebbdaa]
This just started today, so nobody has gotten anything back yet.

LucaBella

26-01-2009 18:21:27

[quote628f3a0b23="ashilef"][quote628f3a0b23="LucaBella"][quote628f3a0b23="ashilef"][quote628f3a0b23="Powerbook"]Well, they may come up with a system thanks to all of you discussing how to get by it. ( lol I wouldn't be surprised if they won't be reading some of these boards.[/quote628f3a0b23]

You are right they might be reading...so from now on nobody should talk about how they will go about getting their gifts and just do it.[/quote628f3a0b23]

Yeah, when I told you that you gave me attitude...

At least you're on board with the plan now... All we need to do is shut Bruman up, and things will go well...[/quote628f3a0b23]

I gave you attitude because you were rude about it, telling me to STFU, don't come at me crazy and I won't do the same to you! D[/quote628f3a0b23]

I couldda been nicer, but that's not my way. the bottom line is this is not a safe forum to discuss ways to get around the rules of ANY freebie site, so use your brain, all of you, and try to avoid stating boldly how you plan to turn this crap around to your own advantage.. just do it. PM those who need help, and try and limit what you say in these threads.

hmm.... south of seattle? I'm in seattle... I'mma hug you.

mweiss

26-01-2009 18:25:25

[quote8c5b35b535="Eeyore"][quote8c5b35b535="mweiss"]Can anyone confirm that they purchased the gift cards, mailed the form, and then were reimbursed? Sorry, the forum is 56 pages so it will take a while to read the whole thing. But I received 2 forms today (one for $200 jcrew gift card and one for $1000 visa)[/quote8c5b35b535]
This just started today, so nobody has gotten anything back yet.[/quote8c5b35b535]

what do you mean it just started today. Haven't people gotten these forms in the past?

Getstuff4free Kyle

26-01-2009 18:26:27

[quote3d700942af="mweiss"][quote3d700942af="Eeyore"][quote3d700942af="mweiss"]Can anyone confirm that they purchased the gift cards, mailed the form, and then were reimbursed? Sorry, the forum is 56 pages so it will take a while to read the whole thing. But I received 2 forms today (one for $200 jcrew gift card and one for $1000 visa)[/quote3d700942af]
This just started today, so nobody has gotten anything back yet.[/quote3d700942af]

what do you mean it just started today. Haven't people gotten these forms in the past?[/quote3d700942af]

No

tiffrnwhitney

26-01-2009 18:31:02

Okay, stupid question....when filling out the forms it asks for your email address. Should I just give each the same email address? I used a couple different ones to keep things organized when I did the sites....

oleus

26-01-2009 18:33:52

[quotebc44107990="tiffrnwhitney"]Okay, stupid question....when filling out the forms it asks for your email address. Should I just give each the same email address? I used a couple different ones to keep things organized when I did the sites....[/quotebc44107990]

that's not a stupid question at all, i don't know the answer necessarily but to be safe i would use the email address you used with Brandarama/YTB for the corresponding offer.

my guess is, this is basically a startover as far the offer is concerned so you could probable use any email address you wanted on the forms but it can't hurt to use the ones you used originally for the YTB offers.

tiffrnwhitney

26-01-2009 18:40:16

Okay, just wondering if they use it to confirm your gift any further. I am thinking that any old email will be fine since they already have the certificate code #. I just tried to log in to some of the accounts with YTB and it says the emails are invalid. Some work, some don't.

vijay04964

26-01-2009 18:54:27

Alright i don't know if this question has been answer, but I need 2 $500 gift cards (Amex/Visa) and where can I get them? Also what is this cash withdrawal, like which cards allow me to do that and which don't?

swbball28

26-01-2009 18:57:58

has anyone asked if you can send multiple certs in the same envelope?

tylerc

26-01-2009 18:58:08

If you don't know if it's been answered, you should read through the thread.

vijay04964

26-01-2009 18:59:31

Where there are multiple places. Which one can be trusted?

tylerc

26-01-2009 19:00:26

Read through the thread.

vijay04964

26-01-2009 19:00:59

Alright thanks for the help

Swat1

26-01-2009 19:17:16

[quote4d668c0041="swbball28"]has anyone asked if you can send multiple certs in the same envelope?[/quote4d668c0041]




anyone doing this and getting DQ'd deserves it.

tylerc

26-01-2009 19:19:14

Care to elaborate?

slambam

26-01-2009 19:19:37

[quote82b85a1477="Swat1"][quote82b85a1477="swbball28"]has anyone asked if you can send multiple certs in the same envelope?[/quote82b85a1477]




anyone doing this and getting DQ'd deserves it.[/quote82b85a1477]

Huh? Why? I thought they said you could send them together, I'm not positive though. All it's doing is making it less mail for them to open?

Swat1

26-01-2009 19:20:05

just throwing this out there....if BR hired these guys to do the payouts...they are banking that we aren't going to sue them. THey are forcing us to agree to a new contract. just look at the terms of this MPELL form. we can't agree on a new contract w/o any consideration for something that is already owed to us and we dont benefit in any way else.

Swat1

26-01-2009 19:21:21

[quote455dabb2f7="slambam"][quote455dabb2f7="Swat1"][quote455dabb2f7="swbball28"]has anyone asked if you can send multiple certs in the same envelope?[/quote455dabb2f7]




anyone doing this and getting DQ'd deserves it.[/quote455dabb2f7]

Huh? Why? I thought they said you could send them together, I'm not positive though. All it's doing is making it less mail for them to open?[/quote455dabb2f7]

I'm just saying that these companies are shady as hell.... i would just pay the extra 42 cents times X numbers of letters.

tp24

26-01-2009 19:23:18

[quotea0ee1dbc83="Swat1"][quotea0ee1dbc83="swbball28"]has anyone asked if you can send multiple certs in the same envelope?[/quotea0ee1dbc83]




anyone doing this and getting DQ'd deserves it.[/quotea0ee1dbc83]

Someone on A4F said it's all right. Best to check with them though.

bruman

26-01-2009 19:24:40

I'm batching them together, using Delivery Confirmation as well, not just regular first class.

Zags1199

26-01-2009 19:29:00

Yeah, one envelope is fine.

steveyankee

26-01-2009 19:30:29

Yeah, I don't know why one envelope would be a reason for them to DQ you lol

However, there are a few ways they can DQ you, so I wouldn't be all the way shocked if true.

mistertomlinson

26-01-2009 19:34:38

I'm going to send 7 copies of each form, individually labeled according to "copy #," with delivery confirmation shipped via each available carrier in America (i.e. UPS, FedEX, DSL, etc.) and I'm going to call every Monday and Thursday of each week within my 30 day time limit to ensure each copy is received.

dubbin87

26-01-2009 19:37:08

[quoteaf7e59f981="mistertomlinson"]I'm going to send 7 copies of each form, individually labeled according to "copy #," with delivery confirmation shipped via each available carrier in America (i.e. UPS, FedEX, DSL, etc.) and I'm going to call every Monday and Thursday of each week within my 30 day time limit to ensure each copy is received.[/quoteaf7e59f981]

Don't forget pony express, that can be a 8th way.

tiffrnwhitney

26-01-2009 19:42:04

I have made copies of everything. I want to send more than one copy too but on the certificate it states that it must be the original certificate sent in. I can't decide if I am going to send them all together or individually with delivery confirmation.

bennyboy5768

26-01-2009 19:44:18

[quotebb574cc438="tiffrnwhitney"]Okay, stupid question....when filling out the forms it asks for your email address. Should I just give each the same email address? I used a couple different ones to keep things organized when I did the sites....[/quotebb574cc438]

I asked them about email addresses and they are an optional field. You dont need to fill out the email blank. And about ID's you can black out the drivers license number.

tylerc

26-01-2009 19:53:56

They said you can black it out?

tiffrnwhitney

26-01-2009 19:55:28

Thanks BennyB, now I think I am going to send everything nice and organized in an overnight envelope to them. Hmmmm, decisions, decisions. I can't believe I am having to do this...just doesn't seem right but whatever.....

oleus

26-01-2009 20:06:40

[quoteedf3d9dc5f="bruman"]I'm batching them together, using Delivery Confirmation as well, not just regular first class.[/quoteedf3d9dc5f]


yeah honestly , if they DQ someone for something like sending multiple certificates in at once that would be ridiculous. they obviously know they sent many more than 1 letter to many, many people....

tiffrnwhitney

26-01-2009 20:25:13

Yea, really, I am being paranoid, I should slap them with a lawsuit for mental anguish! This makes going to my work as an RN easy and I deal with drunks and druggies coming in wondering why they have freakin chest pain after snorting a line, WTF? LOL Thanks BR I appreciate the better outlook on my career, LOL P

livingloud28

26-01-2009 20:26:37

Yeah I was on the phone with them earlier and I asked if I could send my forms together good thing its only 5 lol now I need to figure how to do this smoothly ! D

swbball28

26-01-2009 21:15:22

livingloud28 they told you that you can send it all in one envelope or you need to send it seperate?

johnnyc

26-01-2009 21:57:52

what kind of id do they need?
i have school id
but i dont have government issued id

massman

26-01-2009 23:04:21

[quoteb5bbf78489="tiffrnwhitney"]Yea, really, I am being paranoid, I should slap them with a lawsuit for mental anguish! This makes going to my work as an RN easy and I deal with drunks and druggies coming in wondering why they have freakin chest pain after snorting a line, WTF? LOL Thanks BR I appreciate the better outlook on my career, LOL P[/quoteb5bbf78489]

where are you a nurse, I thought i was one of the only members of nursing/freebie crew )

zr2152

26-01-2009 23:42:31

[quote209082e069="johnnyc"]what kind of id do they need?
i have school id
but i dont have government issued id[/quote209082e069]

You can get a state issued ID at your local DMV.

DRay9911

27-01-2009 05:55:46

[quote7b4552d5b3="skinnyhoops"]tp24, here's your answer from Mpell Solutions. I asked the same question and the (2) $500 gift cards you purchase have to be the same STORE listed on your certificate

Hello,
If your gift certificate is for $1,000 Circuit City Gift Cards, then you may purchase two $500 dollar Circuit City Gift Cards to equal the $1,000. If you purchase two $500 dollar Best Buy gift cards, you will only be reimbursed for $500 or you may purchase a single tangible item somewhere else for $1,000 or more. Remember, you will be reimbursed for the single highest purchase up to the amount of the certificate.
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service[/quote7b4552d5b3]

the simple solution would be to just buy a $1,000 best buy card.

[quote7b4552d5b3="Swat1"][quote7b4552d5b3="swbball28"]has anyone asked if you can send multiple certs in the same envelope?[/quote7b4552d5b3]

anyone doing this and getting DQ'd deserves it.[/quote7b4552d5b3]

they aren't going to DQ someone for sending multiple certificates in the same envelope, use your head. if you staple everything and keep it nice and organized, it will go smoothly. if someone decides to be a wise ass and just slam everything in an envelope, they will probably take their time processing it.

-dan

kwoodyk34k

27-01-2009 06:48:03

Anyone have anymore places to try for a Gift Card that you can withdraw funds from an ATM?

I saw something about Walmart earlier. Was that one you can withdraw at an ATM or no? I'd actually prefer paying in cash for it.

That ReadyCard site keeps saying Error before I get to step 4.

That Western Union one is a blank card they send you and you add funds at your local Western Union. I really don't think adding funds to a pre-existing card is considered a purchase. It might be, but I don't want to try it.

GiftCards.com needs my bank name and the phone number on my credit card...

Well I use a debit card from my bank. And there is no # on it.

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 06:49:56

[quotec047845597="Swat1"]just throwing this out there....if BR hired these guys to do the payouts...they are banking that we aren't going to sue them. THey are forcing us to agree to a new contract. just look at the terms of this MPELL form. we can't agree on a new contract w/o any consideration for something that is already owed to us and we dont benefit in any way else.[/quotec047845597]

There are laws to protect the consumer, because most lawmakers recognize that companies will prey on, and exploit the consumer, milk em dry, or whatever to make that $million. That said, even though Mpell has inserted a clause to protect their interests by binding us to agree to their terms in order to receive our gift, the mere fact that this hole thing has been convaluted may very well work to the consumer's favor. I suggest that a formal complaint be made to the New York State Attorney General against ARG, and that way if Mpell screws us, then we may have some leverage. If everyone agrees, I will write up a complaint and send it to the Attorney General asking them to investigate the legality and ethical claims against them. At this point, I dont think it can hurt.

kwoodyk34k

27-01-2009 06:55:56

Anyone try that Walmart Money Card?

So you get the card at walmart and then buy "Money Packs?"

Are these Money Packs physical items? If so, that would work I think.

But I don't think it would count if they just swipe your card and add funds which is why I hope they are actual "money packs" which you buy then add the funds yourself somehow.

Anyone know? I'd go to Walmart myself but I'll be at school for the next 7 hours, lol.

hawke12

27-01-2009 07:07:06

[quote2846ae65ea="kwoodyk34k"]Anyone try that Walmart Money Card?

So you get the card at walmart and then buy "Money Packs?"

Are these Money Packs physical items? If so, that would work I think.

But I don't think it would count if they just swipe your card and add funds which is why I hope they are actual "money packs" which you buy then add the funds yourself somehow.

Anyone know? I'd go to Walmart myself but I'll be at school for the next 7 hours, lol.[/quote2846ae65ea]

Yes you buy "Moneypacks"

You can only have $500 on the card at one time. You can up this limit to $2000 if you upgrade the account to be able to load upto $2000 max.

The moneypack cards can only be bought for $500 so you would need multiple cards for higher amounts.

Hope that helps. and yes you can use it at an ATM, but they charge you like a $1 plus whatever the ATM charges. and you can only take out upto $500 a day from an ATM.

Hope this helps.

Armstrong

27-01-2009 07:07:10

I think im going the Giftcards.com route. I want to get cash for this and not a gift, so a VISA ATM card is my route.

hawke12

27-01-2009 07:09:19

[quoted7696a3bdb="neverendingmoolah"][quoted7696a3bdb="Swat1"]just throwing this out there....if BR hired these guys to do the payouts...they are banking that we aren't going to sue them. THey are forcing us to agree to a new contract. just look at the terms of this MPELL form. we can't agree on a new contract w/o any consideration for something that is already owed to us and we dont benefit in any way else.[/quoted7696a3bdb]

There are laws to protect the consumer, because most lawmakers recognize that companies will prey on, and exploit the consumer, milk em dry, or whatever to make that $million. That said, even though Mpell has inserted a clause to protect their interests by binding us to agree to their terms in order to receive our gift, the mere fact that this hole thing has been convaluted may very well work to the consumer's favor. I suggest that a formal complaint be made to the New York State Attorney General against ARG, and that way if Mpell screws us, then we may have some leverage. If everyone agrees, I will write up a complaint and send it to the Attorney General asking them to investigate the legality and ethical claims against them. At this point, I dont think it can hurt.[/quoted7696a3bdb]

I agree with this and support a Legal effort like this 100%.

We already met our end of the bargain, and they should not be allowed to cop out like this. We just need a good number of others that will also agree.

mjforever

27-01-2009 07:30:25

here the link to NEW YORK ATTONEY GENERAL CONSUMER FORM


Let's kick brandarama's ass. They create a mess for us.
http//www.oag.state.ny.us/resource_center/complaints/pdfs/cns001web_consumer.pdf

rustvyper

27-01-2009 07:32:30

Who knows where the cheapest GC's are? This sucks bad enough - maybe we can get a thread going with the best GC sites so we don't have to pay an extra $20 worth of fees.

hawke12

27-01-2009 07:57:14

[quote99e4554205="mjforever"]here the link to NEW YORK ATTONEY GENERAL CONSUMER FORM


Let's kick brandarama's ass. They create a mess for us.
http//www.oag.state.ny.us/resource_center/complaints/pdfs/cns001web_consumer.pdf[/quote99e4554205]

Heres a better link, right to their website Complaint form)

http//www.oag.state.ny.us/online_forms/complaint_alert.jsp

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 08:21:34

[quotef854fc94d2="hawke12"][quotef854fc94d2="mjforever"]here the link to NEW YORK ATTONEY GENERAL CONSUMER FORM


Let's kick brandarama's ass. They create a mess for us.
http//www.oag.state.ny.us/resource_center/complaints/pdfs/cns001web_consumer.pdf[/quotef854fc94d2]

Heres a better link, right to their website Complaint form)

http//www.oag.state.ny.us/online_forms/complaint_alert.jsp[/quotef854fc94d2]

Even better. I am going to submit a complaint, and hope everyone else does too. Just CYA. D

JANGALANG32

27-01-2009 08:28:51

i agree with the complaints but i will not particpate...i think in the long run this is a good thing. now, i see things moving very quickly with gift redemption. can you imagine signing up for a $500 gift card, within 2 weeks all offers credit. within another 2 weeks you get a letter in the mail saying buy whatever you want and send the receipt in and get reimbursed in 8-10 weeks? thats sounds very nice to me!

imapepper

27-01-2009 08:35:55

If I knew for sure I was going to get my money back then I would gladly lay out 1500 to get a new plasma but since I dont know if I will get my money back I will not do so .... in that case I would of bought a freiken tv a year ago.

hawke12

27-01-2009 08:36:17

[quote0984d4e33a="JANGALANG32"]i agree with the complaints but i will not particpate...i think in the long run this is a good thing. now, i see things moving very quickly with gift redemption. can you imagine signing up for a $500 gift card, within 2 weeks all offers credit. within another 2 weeks you get a letter in the mail saying buy whatever you want and send the receipt in and get reimbursed in 8-10 weeks? thats sounds very nice to me![/quote0984d4e33a]


You agree with the complaints but wont participate? That makes no sense.

anyways, This "rebate" thing would be FINE if it was a new site you were starting say....Today.

But these are NOT the terms we ALL agreed to over a year ago when we completed the sites in good faith. We completed offers, got approved, completed their Confirmation Certificate, which BTW say's we would receive our gifts in 6-8 weeks which we signed BTW, and have been waiting ever since.

This is just wrong anyway you slice it.

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 08:38:54

[quotecbf8173b4f="JANGALANG32"]i agree with the complaints but i will not particpate...i think in the long run this is a good thing. now, i see things moving very quickly with gift redemption. can you imagine signing up for a $500 gift card, within 2 weeks all offers credit. within another 2 weeks you get a letter in the mail saying buy whatever you want and send the receipt in and get reimbursed in 8-10 weeks? thats sounds very nice to me![/quotecbf8173b4f]

Well the way I see it, someone has to notify the AG because otherwise, Brandarama, ARG, and Mpell may all get off, if this whole thing goes south. Fortunattely, I only have four certificates to redeem and I plan to use the visa ATM route. I want my gifts just as much as everyone else does, but I also think that by us waiting for the first 16 months, Brandarama, YTB, etc, now think that we will just about take anything to get the free money, because there was no one complaining. This gave them time to cash out on our offers, sell the company and move on. Meanwhile, leading us on by saying they were experiencing huge delays, due to overwhelming response, blah, blah, blah. The lied to us, and lead us on, and now have left us holding the bag.

Now, how do we know that Mpell wont do the same, after we have fulfilled all the requirements. The only way is to go the AG, and he will make sure that they do not get away with it if they do try. I will file a complaint and I wish everyone else would too. This way, if we get screwed, at least we dont go down without a fight!!

Zags1199

27-01-2009 08:42:51

Wow, unbelievable. Brandarama gave Mpell an address that's not even mine.

JANGALANG32

27-01-2009 08:45:04

[quote90c2efe5ae="hawke12"][quote90c2efe5ae="JANGALANG32"]i agree with the complaints but i will not particpate...i think in the long run this is a good thing. now, i see things moving very quickly with gift redemption. can you imagine signing up for a $500 gift card, within 2 weeks all offers credit. within another 2 weeks you get a letter in the mail saying buy whatever you want and send the receipt in and get reimbursed in 8-10 weeks? thats sounds very nice to me![/quote90c2efe5ae]


You agree with the complaints but wont participate? That makes no sense.

anyways, This "rebate" thing would be FINE if it was a new site you were starting say....Today.

But these are NOT the terms we ALL agreed to over a year ago when we completed the sites in good faith. We completed offers, got approved, completed their Confirmation Certificate, which BTW say's we would receive our gifts in 6-8 weeks which we signed BTW, and have been waiting ever since.

This is just wrong anyway you slice it.[/quote90c2efe5ae]

it makes perfect sense because i understand that we didnt agree to do all the extras they are now asking us to do but i also understand that i have the money to front and this will be resolved in 8-10 months. why would i file complaints if i am going to get whats owed to me? plus, i feel confident now doing more offers. before these letters were sent out i was counting my losses now i am getting all my gifts in the form of money in my bank account! so it does make sense just not to the people that cant front the money which is why i agree with the complaints but wont participate

brett7258

27-01-2009 08:49:41

Going to throw my opinion into the mess. After all opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one and they all stink. Have thought about the best route to spend my $2500( 2x 1000 and 1x 500) and have come across this - https//www.key.com/html/H-8.html . I talked to Key Bank, it is $3.95 for the card, it can be loaded by cash or Key bank account at a branch only. You do not have to be a member of the bank if paying by cash. It can be used at the ATM for a fee of $1.00 per withdrawal and a max of $300 per day. So you are looking at about 8 bucks for $1000. I realize this only helps you if there is a Key Bank in your area but just another option that looks like it is cheaper then the Walmart route. I have not cleared this route with MPELL but see no reason why it would not work.

dubbin87

27-01-2009 09:02:51

[quote7e4b3ff517="imapepper"]If I knew for sure I was going to get my money back then I would gladly lay out 1500 to get a new plasma but since I dont know if I will get my money back I will not do so .... in that case I would of bought a freiken tv a year ago.[/quote7e4b3ff517]

Thanks, just means I'll have better odds of getting mine.

I love seeing posts like this..

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 09:03:13

[my bank account! so it does make sense just not to the people that cant front the money which is why i agree with the complaints but wont participate

SO NOT TRUE... Dude, I really do not think that you should make any assumptions. I have the money, I have never said that I did not have the money. I make money everyday, and will redeem my certificates this week. But, there is such a thing as PRINCIPAL. I'm a paralegal, and I know you have to use the law in your favor, if not people take advantage of those who are ignorant to the law. Now, I am hoping that Mpell fulfills its promise and reimburses me, you and everyone else who sends in a receipt. But in case they do not, I will contact the AG so that this matter can be monitored.

bruman

27-01-2009 09:03:25

Has anyone asked if WalMart MoneyPaks are considered a qualified purchase? They might consider it more like a debit card you apply for rather than just a gift card because its a card you reload.

dubbin87

27-01-2009 09:07:14

[quotef6cbbe0976="bruman"]Has anyone asked if WalMart MoneyPaks are considered a qualified purchase? They might consider it more like a debit card you apply for rather than just a gift card because its a card you reload.[/quotef6cbbe0976]

Call in, ask, report back. )

hawke12

27-01-2009 09:09:30

[quote0e52d343ce="JANGALANG32"]it makes perfect sense because i understand that we didnt agree to do all the extras they are now asking us to do but i also understand that i have the money to front and this will be resolved in 8-10 months. why would i file complaints if i am going to get whats owed to me? plus, i feel confident now doing more offers. before these letters were sent out i was counting my losses now i am getting all my gifts in the form of money in my bank account! so it does make sense just not to the people that cant front the money which is why i agree with the complaints but wont participate[/quote0e52d343ce]

Ok I see your perspective.

But it doesn't change the fact that its wrong, and I believe this is called Bate-N-Switch, which is against the law in many states.

supersponger1979

27-01-2009 09:10:05

I appreciate everyone's input and the fact that something might finally be resolved and we can all get what we were promised more than a year ago. The thing I don't like is in order to get what I am owed, I have to basically spend over $3500 in the next 30 and wait another 2+ months to get reimbursed? Definitely not what we agreed to. Why can't the company just send us what we are owed in 8-10 weeks? If they want to pay for the interest on my cc than fine, but I am extremely skeptical of this reimbursement clause. Anyway, Encinitas, Ca is only about 25 mins from San Diego...maybe I will stalk their PO box and see where he goes... )

supersponger1979

27-01-2009 09:13:07

The address is in Vista, Ca...only 40 mins out of San Diego. If anyone wants the address

Mpell Solutions, LLC
1330 Specialty Dr Suite B
Vista, CA 92081

Also, shouldn't we file a complaint w/ California AG since this new company is located in Vista? Thanks

JANGALANG32

27-01-2009 09:14:57

[quote63eb40b9a5="neverendingmoolah"][my bank account! so it does make sense just not to the people that cant front the money which is why i agree with the complaints but wont participate[/quote63eb40b9a5]

SO NOT TRUE... Dude, I really do not think that you should make any assumptions. I have the money, I have never said that I did not have the money. I make money everyday, and will redeem my certificates this week. But, there is such a thing as PRINCIPAL. I'm a paralegal, and I know you have to use the law in your favor, if not people take advantage of those who are ignorant to the law. Now, I am hoping that Mpell fulfills its promise and reimburses me, you and everyone else who sends in a receipt. But in case they do not, I will contact the AG so that this matter can be monitored.




i didnt make an assumption...i didnt say "you" anywhere in my post. i said the word "people". dont assume i dedicated a post to you. i think about the situation i am in now and the situation i was in before the letters came out and i prefer this one. sorry to the PEOPLE that wont front the money i would be pissed off too. as for the legal situation i am sure there is millions of dollars involved so i am sure bringing this up with the right people might make a lot of noise.

bruman

27-01-2009 09:20:11

I've been trying to call and it's busy.

And why would you possibly file complaints with MPell about this? MPell was just hired by ARG to do a job, so far they've done a good job. If you want to file complaints do it to ARG, they are the ones responsible for it.

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 09:23:33

[quote135b1df993="JANGALANG32"][quote135b1df993="neverendingmoolah"][my bank account! so it does make sense just not to the people that cant front the money which is why i agree with the complaints but wont participate[/quote135b1df993]

SO NOT TRUE... Dude, I really do not think that you should make any assumptions. I have the money, I have never said that I did not have the money. I make money everyday, and will redeem my certificates this week. But, there is such a thing as PRINCIPAL. I'm a paralegal, and I know you have to use the law in your favor, if not people take advantage of those who are ignorant to the law. Now, I am hoping that Mpell fulfills its promise and reimburses me, you and everyone else who sends in a receipt. But in case they do not, I will contact the AG so that this matter can be monitored.[/quote135b1df993]

i didnt make an assumption...i didnt say "you" anywhere in my post. i said the word "people". dont assume i dedicated a post to you. i think about the situation i am in now and the situation i was in before the letters came out and i prefer this one. sorry to the PEOPLE that wont front the money i would be pissed off too. as for the legal situation i am sure there is millions of dollars involved so i am sure bringing this up with the right people might make a lot of noise.

Not assuming, I just wanted to clarify that NOT EVERYONE who wants to file a complaint does not have the money. I think it is wrong, and I also think that Brandarama, YTB were able to get away with this because so many of us stayed silent. It only takes about 30 days for the advertisers to reimburse the publishers for offers completed on their websites, but yet we were forced to wait 16 months, and still no cigar. We got screwed. Brandarama got paid for our offers a long time ago!!

I want to believe that this is a good thing too, but just in case, I will be sending a formal complaint to the NY Attorney General to inform them of the covert tacticts imposed upon me thus far. If Mpell is legitimate, then they will fulfill their obligations to everyone without any more delays.

hawke12

27-01-2009 09:23:55

[quote48aa8eb4a4="bruman"]I've been trying to call and it's busy.

And why would you possibly file complaints with MPell about this? MPell was just hired by ARG to do a job, so far they've done a good job. If you want to file complaints do it to ARG, they are the ones responsible for it.[/quote48aa8eb4a4]

Active Response Group, "ARG" Inc. is exactly who I filed a complaint about.

bruman

27-01-2009 09:26:27

[quoteab7004b5a3="hawke12"][quoteab7004b5a3="bruman"]I've been trying to call and it's busy.

And why would you possibly file complaints with MPell about this? MPell was just hired by ARG to do a job, so far they've done a good job. If you want to file complaints do it to ARG, they are the ones responsible for it.[/quoteab7004b5a3]

Active Response Group, "ARG" Inc. is exactly who I filed a complaint about.[/quoteab7004b5a3]

I was talking mostly about supersponger1979 and the post she made a few posts higher.

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 09:29:30

[quote3aa757e011="bruman"]I've been trying to call and it's busy.

And why would you possibly file complaints with MPell about this? MPell was just hired by ARG to do a job, so far they've done a good job. If you want to file complaints do it to ARG, they are the ones responsible for it.[/quote3aa757e011]

My complaint will be filed against ARG, because they are the one who runs brandarama, YTB. So far, I have no complaints against Mpell becuase they were just brought into the picture and I hope they are legit!!

supersponger1979

27-01-2009 09:34:08

Thanks!

bruman

27-01-2009 09:34:53

I just got off the phone with them.. didn't go very smoothly hah.
Basically this one female picked up, I said I had a question about a qualified purchase, she said yeah and I said would a reloadable visa card such as a walmart moneypak be considered a qualified gift? She just said "yeah, as long as it's one item and you get the receipt" so i said "so a reloadable visa card is ok?" and apparently she got confused or didn't hear me or something and she said "..remoadable?" and i said "reloadable. like you can put money back on the card, it's not like a gift card where you can just get money out" and then she was still confused and just basically repeated "yeah... as long as it's one item it's fine".

So not a very clear answer.

tylerc

27-01-2009 09:35:43

I think I might go this route, there's a Key Bank here in town, and I can afford to front the money for the card/ATM fees for now, then just put the cash back in my bank account.

https//www.key.com/html/H-8.html

supersponger1979

27-01-2009 09:38:06

Do we all need to file a complaint with NY AG or can we collectively do it? No way I am shelling out $3500 in the next 30 days...

bruman

27-01-2009 09:38:06

Key Bank goes up to $2,500 as well. Sucks you can only get them at a branch if you have one around.

tylerc

27-01-2009 09:41:32

Huzzah! Key Bank branch less than 2 miles from me D

bayarea05

27-01-2009 09:49:26

So I dont clearly get it yet.


We are not allowed to buy multiple items on one receipt? What if I spend 400.xx and I have 500 AMEX to spend off? Just keep buying items on separate receipts til 500?

I cant just spend 3100 within 30 days (

Powerbook

27-01-2009 09:49:42

What is the fee for keybank for 1,000? With this could i pay off my credit card bill? I can buy these on credit then pay off my cc with them?

hawke12

27-01-2009 10:17:02

Well, if anyone happens to get through on there Phone Service, could you please ask them this question.


Is the 30 day limit only to take this offer, and if we choose not to do it, we will still get the giftcard we earned as shipped by Brandarama? or is the 30 day period a do it or lose the gift period sort of thing.?

I will keep trying myself, as I'm sure there busy as hell.

Thanks

Eeyore

27-01-2009 10:21:51

That's already been answered, but here it is again If you do not participate in this Mpell program you forfeit your gift.

hawke12

27-01-2009 10:26:45

[quote81f180cfcf="Eeyore"]That's already been answered, but here it is again If you do not participate in this Mpell program you forfeit your gift.[/quote81f180cfcf]

Sorry, it must went right by me...

dubbin87

27-01-2009 10:34:46

[quote41e97f74d7="hawke12"][quote41e97f74d7="Eeyore"]That's already been answered, but here it is again If you do not participate in this Mpell program you forfeit your gift.[/quote41e97f74d7]

Sorry, it must went right by me...[/quote41e97f74d7]
Don't worry, you wern't the first and certianly won't be the last to ask a question that has already been awnsered mulitple times.
8)

Eeyore

27-01-2009 10:35:07

Don't feel bad...this thread is nuts.

imapepper

27-01-2009 10:37:30

anyone know of any other banks that do prepaid debit cards? aka gift cards....neither one of my close by banks offer these so far.

ryan.b08

27-01-2009 10:49:33

Ditto, I need a ATM GC for $1000 and I don't care that much about fee's, but can't find one. People on other sites have been claiming that MPell said you can buy two $500 visas if you were confirmed for a $1000 Visa to begin with. If this is true I would buy two $500 Icards. Any insight?

Eeyore

27-01-2009 11:00:12

Since mere mortals can't buy $1000 visas (you have to be a business) they're letting us buy two $500 visas to make up one as an exception to their one-item-per-submission rule.

ploppsdman

27-01-2009 11:00:48

That key mastercard prepaid might turn out to be a pretty darn good suggestion ... please let us know when you buy it ...

ploppsdman

27-01-2009 11:08:54

What is the fee for keybank for 1,000? With this could i pay off my credit card bill? I can buy these on credit then pay off my cc with them?

Fees are listed under the FAQ page. I dont recall them EXACTLY, but roughly its a $3.95 issuance fee and $1 fee per withdraw (max $300/day) if you do it through Key ATMs. So, $6 a card, if you want to settle $500. Seems pretty OK to me.

edgespeeder04

27-01-2009 11:28:32

Now, is what i proposed earlier possible? Buying $1000 visa card, in theory, if we can find a place to allow us to buy one for that amount and using it to buy two other $500 visa cards, therefore covering three gifts? I mean I know of know other option, aside from doing this and then going to an atm and withdrawing the money back into my account.

Does that seem justifiable?

kwoodyk34k

27-01-2009 11:34:23

[quote6cb5243061="bruman"]Has anyone asked if WalMart MoneyPaks are considered a qualified purchase? They might consider it more like a debit card you apply for rather than just a gift card because its a card you reload.[/quote6cb5243061]

I thought someone just said that you buy "Money Packs" as physical items. So don't they have their own receipt?

So if I buy a $500 Money Pack and I have a receipt from Walmart saying that I purchased a $500 Money Pack, shouldn't that count?

To my understanding you are not paying them to put money on your gift card. You are paying them for a $500 item. Then you put the funds on your gift card yourself with that item.

Or is that not how it works?

imapepper

27-01-2009 11:38:35

[quotefb223bdfd7="edgespeeder04"]Now, is what i proposed earlier possible? Buying $1000 visa card, in theory, if we can find a place to allow us to buy one for that amount and using it to buy two other $500 visa cards, therefore covering three gifts? I mean I know of know other option, aside from doing this and then going to an atm and withdrawing the money back into my account.

Does that seem justifiable?[/quotefb223bdfd7]

You can do that as long as you have 3 separate receipts with 3 seperate transactions. But where are you going to find a $1000 visa card....most I've seen is $500 unless you have a business account with specific banks.

imapepper

27-01-2009 11:40:25

This blows.

brett7258

27-01-2009 11:40:59

Before we all rush to Key bank, I asked for some more details about the card I posted earlier and the only caveat to the card is that if you are NOT a member you can only get them for $500. If you are a member you can take advantage of the $2500 daily limit. Being a member consists of having something like their FREE checking which you can get online in like 5 minutes. The checking requires a minimum opening deposit of $50 and if you close it in 180 days it costs you $25. You can all do the math and figure out what is best for you.

desertwilite

27-01-2009 11:42:12

[quote55e0f156c4="imapepper"][quote55e0f156c4="edgespeeder04"]Now, is what i proposed earlier possible? Buying $1000 visa card, in theory, if we can find a place to allow us to buy one for that amount and using it to buy two other $500 visa cards, therefore covering three gifts? I mean I know of know other option, aside from doing this and then going to an atm and withdrawing the money back into my account.

Does that seem justifiable?[/quote55e0f156c4]

You can do that as long as you have 3 separate receipts with 3 seperate transactions. But where are you going to find a $1000 visa card....most I've seen is $500 unless you have a business account with specific banks.[/quote55e0f156c4]

Couldn't you start out by buying a $1000 Amex? I think they go up to $2000.

edgespeeder04

27-01-2009 11:49:43

Yeah that is true but then an amex card I don't believe you can cash via an atm or am I wrong?


http//www.americanexpress.com/gift/giftcardslanding.shtml?source=Amex_cmhp_topright-giftcard

imapepper

27-01-2009 11:59:14

you cant use a visa gift card in an atm either......they have visa atm gift cards .... but I cant figure out how to buy one and they only go up to $500 dollars.

mtomm

27-01-2009 12:05:06

The AMEX is not useable at ATMs only merchants.

edgespeeder04

27-01-2009 12:13:58

I've used visa gift cards in atms before, there is always the option of withdrawing the funds to a paypal account and then to your bank account or requesting a check which you can deposit. Am I right?

Getstuff4free Kyle

27-01-2009 12:22:16

[quote16ebbc03b8="edgespeeder04"]I've used visa gift cards in atms before, there is always the option of withdrawing the funds to a paypal account and then to your bank account or requesting a check which you can deposit. Am I right?[/quote16ebbc03b8]

You can't withdraw funds from a credit card to your paypal account. You can use them to fund a payment, but that's it.

mwt123

27-01-2009 12:22:53

does anyone know any site that offers a visa prepaid card over $500? the withdrawal option is not important, just need a reliable site.

edgespeeder04

27-01-2009 12:28:19

[quoteb9f0dcf4fb="Getstuff4free Kyle"][quoteb9f0dcf4fb="edgespeeder04"]I've used visa gift cards in atms before, there is always the option of withdrawing the funds to a paypal account and then to your bank account or requesting a check which you can deposit. Am I right?[/quoteb9f0dcf4fb]

You can't withdraw funds from a credit card to your paypal account. You can use them to fund a payment, but that's it.[/quoteb9f0dcf4fb]


ooo okay I can do that....I can fund a payment to my girlfriend and then send it back to me and cash it out. Will that work?

mweiss

27-01-2009 12:33:46

I'm not sure if anybody had yet posted this but since I can't afford to lay out $1,000, let alone lose it due to a scam, I thought of buying an item and then returning it but still sending the receipt. Except every time I have returned an item, the sales person marks it on the receipt. So I thought of ordering an item online, making a copy of the invoice, send one copy to mpell and returning the item with the original invoice. I just had to make sure that they accept invoices from online orders as receipts. I called and the person I spoke with said they do!!

Going to place my online order now!

ryan.b08

27-01-2009 12:35:08

Are we confirming [u305f163970]FOR A FACT 100%[/u305f163970] that you can buy two $500 visas and they will count it as one purchase as long as you were confirmed for a $1000 Visa???

mtomm

27-01-2009 12:36:18

The key would be not to pay shipping (at least one way) and checking return policies.

Getstuff4free Kyle

27-01-2009 12:40:50

[quote7f8fe27ae4="mweiss"]I'm not sure if anybody had yet posted this but since I can't afford to lay out $1,000, let alone lose it due to a scam, I thought of buying an item and then returning it but still sending the receipt. Except every time I have returned an item, the sales person marks it on the receipt. So I thought of ordering an item online, making a copy of the invoice, send one copy to mpell and returning the item with the original invoice. I just had to make sure that they accept invoices from online orders as receipts. I called and the person I spoke with said they do!!

Going to place my online order now![/quote7f8fe27ae4]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=833691#833691

LLee93

27-01-2009 12:42:48

[quote79d8d502bf="ryan.b08"]Are we confirming [u79d8d502bf]FOR A FACT 100%[/u79d8d502bf] that you can buy two $500 visas and they will count it as one purchase as long as you were confirmed for a $1000 Visa???[/quote79d8d502bf]

I talked to a supervisor today, & she said it has to be 1 receipt with 1 item. I could get a $500 Walmart gc, but I can't buy $500 worth of stuff. You only get reimbursed for 1 item. I'd call before I did that.

ryan.b08

27-01-2009 12:45:02

[quotee98585573d="LLee93"][quotee98585573d="ryan.b08"]Are we confirming [ue98585573d]FOR A FACT 100%[/ue98585573d] that you can buy two $500 visas and they will count it as one purchase as long as you were confirmed for a $1000 Visa???[/quotee98585573d]

I talked to a supervisor today, & she said it has to be 1 receipt with 1 item. I could get a $500 Walmart gc, but I can't buy $500 worth of stuff. You only get reimbursed for 1 item. I'd call before I did that.[/quotee98585573d]

This is different, this is for Visas and people confirmed for visa's.

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 12:49:21

[quotef81946e0e0="mweiss"]I'm not sure if anybody had yet posted this but since I can't afford to lay out $1,000, let alone lose it due to a scam, I thought of buying an item and then returning it but still sending the receipt. Except every time I have returned an item, the sales person marks it on the receipt. So I thought of ordering an item online, making a copy of the invoice, send one copy to mpell and returning the item with the original invoice. I just had to make sure that they accept invoices from online orders as receipts. I called and the person I spoke with said they do!!

Going to place my online order now![/quotef81946e0e0]

On yesterday I called the phone number on the letter customer support (800) 450-1575. To speed up the process, I wanted to find out if I could submit as proof of purchase my debit card statement or bank account statement to prove that I had made an online purchase. The letter says that you "can buy a gift card from your favorite retailer or online store." I spoke to someone who did not know the answer to this question and she told me that I needed to speak to someone who makes the policies for fulfillment, because they did not make the policies. She gave me the telephone number to ARG. 877-312-7263 but when I called the number the person who answered the phone told me that I needed to speak to someone at customer service at Mpell because they did not make their policies. I told them that someone at Mpell gave me their number and told me to speak to them..... I felt I was being sent on the run-around. I have thus decided to purchase a $1000 visa atm gift card and submit to them a receipt once the item has been delivered.

DRay9911

27-01-2009 12:51:06

yeah, that's right.

right now, as long as it's the same item (visa/visa, amex/amex, etc), you can do that.

i was told i could buy a $500 and $100 amex card for a $600 amex card.

not sure why you can't do two $500 visas for a $1000 amex
or two $500 best buy for a $1000 circuit city

if it's the same purchase for an equal amount it shouldn't be an issue, but right now they are being firm about not letting you do it.

-dan



[quoted1be1a4441="ryan.b08"]Are we confirming [ud1be1a4441]FOR A FACT 100%[/ud1be1a4441] that you can buy two $500 visas and they will count it as one purchase as long as you were confirmed for a $1000 Visa???[/quoted1be1a4441]

RolltheStampede

27-01-2009 13:19:26

If you are buying the item you signed up for you can buy multiple of the item to get the item. if you are subbing something else you can only get one item.

simple.

a visa is not an amex

orangejuice

27-01-2009 13:37:39

come on roll take the extra 10 seconds to correct the spelling. what exactly are you saying? i've been buying TV's and shit to substitute gifts. don't tell me now that isnt allowed..

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Eeyore

27-01-2009 13:47:39

You can buy two $500 Visas in lieu of one $1000 Visa if a $1000 Visa Gift Card is the prize listed on the certificate. They are doing this because $1000 Visa Gift Cards are generally not available to consumers, only businesses. It is an exception to their one-item-per-redemption rule because of that.

Others as substitutes are OK as long as you follow the one-per-certificate -on-a-separate-invoice rule.

luumon

27-01-2009 13:49:54

this sucks. just about to order my amex but they don't ship to hawaii. UGH!!!

DRay9911

27-01-2009 14:07:20

i'm ticked at the banks here (tucson), not one that i called that i have a connection to (either mine, my co-workers or my parent's/sister's) offer a $1,000 visa card.

i went through my 2008 spending and i spent a little over $1700 at walmart. i'm just going to buy a $1,000 walmart card and a $600 card to my grocery store where i spent a little under $800 last year

-dan



[quotee85fee54cc="Eeyore"]You can buy two $500 Visas in lieu of one $1000 Visa if a $1000 Visa Gift Card is the prize listed on the certificate. They are doing this because $1000 Visa Gift Cards are generally not available to consumers, only businesses. It is an exception to their one-item-per-redemption rule because of that.

Others as substitutes are OK as long as you follow the one-per-certificate -on-a-separate-invoice rule.[/quotee85fee54cc]

desertwilite

27-01-2009 14:10:14

I'm in Tucson too. I can get a $500 visa for 3.50 from my bank (chase) but that's the best I found so far.

i'm ticked at the banks here (tucson), not one that i called that i have a connection to (either mine, my co-workers or my parent's/sister's) offer a $1,000 visa card.

i went through my 2008 spending and i spent a little over $1700 at walmart. i'm just going to buy a $1,000 walmart card and a $600 card to my grocery store where i spent a little under $800 last year

-dan

dubbin87

27-01-2009 14:11:38

hmmm, no reply from email support today...(

nousername

27-01-2009 14:16:43

Before I go and spend some serious money, could someone please confirm a few things. I tried to call them but kept getting busy signal.

Here is what I understand so far, from the 2 page letters that I got from Brandarama/Mpell and from this forum thread

1. If my gift is a $1000 circuit city Gift Card, I can substitute 2 x $500 Circuit City GC or a >$1000 plasma TV (or some other expensive SINGLE item) or a $1000 Best Buy GC but I cannot substitute 2 x $500 Best Buy GC.

Likewise, a $1000 Visa GC can be substituted with 2 x $500 VISA GC or 1 x $1000 Amex but not 2 x $500 Amex GC.

2. 1 item substitution per certificate. I can buy a $600 computer and submit that receipt as substitute for a $600 Best Buy GC but if I buy 2 netbooks for 2 x $300 on 1 receipt, I will only be reimbursed for 1 item only, ie. $300.

3. Online store purchase receipt is acceptable. Some online store do not send a receipt with the item but send only a packing slip. So, a print out of the online receipt is OK? What about the email confirmation of the purchase (if the website do not have a way for me to check my account for orders I've made)?

4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?

5. Any tangible item can be bought/used as subsitute as long I have a sales receipt for the item dated 1/26/09 onwards till 2/25/09 (may want to make that before that date so that the certificate can reach Mpell by 1/25/09?). I don't have to substitute a gift card with a gift card, or an electronic item with another electronic item?

Thanks in advance.

doylnea

27-01-2009 14:30:01

I believe that's the most succinct and accurate summary of the terms, and their current interpretation that I've read.

Getstuff4free Kyle

27-01-2009 14:30:10

[quotebf6b482b1a="DRay9911"]i'm ticked at the banks here (tucson), not one that i called that i have a connection to (either mine, my co-workers or my parent's/sister's) offer a $1,000 visa card.

i went through my 2008 spending and i spent a little over $1700 at walmart. i'm just going to buy a $1,000 walmart card and a $600 card to my grocery store where i spent a little under $800 last year

-dan



[quotebf6b482b1a="Eeyore"]You can buy two $500 Visas in lieu of one $1000 Visa if a $1000 Visa Gift Card is the prize listed on the certificate. They are doing this because $1000 Visa Gift Cards are generally not available to consumers, only businesses. It is an exception to their one-item-per-redemption rule because of that.

Others as substitutes are OK as long as you follow the one-per-certificate -on-a-separate-invoice rule.[/quotebf6b482b1a][/quotebf6b482b1a]

Can you get a Wal-Mart gift card at that high an amount? If not, just get 2 $500 Visas (which can be substituted, but not a Wal-Mart card) and just use them at Wal-Mart (or wherever).

luumon

27-01-2009 14:39:06

chase offers gift cards too. the gift card is free online but pay shipping of $4.95. if get it at the branch they charge 3.50

DRay9911

27-01-2009 14:53:55

according to the walmart website, you can buy cards up to $2500.

i originally signed up for sites offering AMEX cards and i'm having problems buying one online.

-dan



[quotecb2e780c16="Getstuff4free Kyle"][quotecb2e780c16="DRay9911"]i'm ticked at the banks here (tucson), not one that i called that i have a connection to (either mine, my co-workers or my parent's/sister's) offer a $1,000 visa card.

i went through my 2008 spending and i spent a little over $1700 at walmart. i'm just going to buy a $1,000 walmart card and a $600 card to my grocery store where i spent a little under $800 last year

-dan



[quotecb2e780c16="Eeyore"]You can buy two $500 Visas in lieu of one $1000 Visa if a $1000 Visa Gift Card is the prize listed on the certificate. They are doing this because $1000 Visa Gift Cards are generally not available to consumers, only businesses. It is an exception to their one-item-per-redemption rule because of that.

Others as substitutes are OK as long as you follow the one-per-certificate -on-a-separate-invoice rule.[/quotecb2e780c16][/quotecb2e780c16]

Can you get a Wal-Mart gift card at that high an amount? If not, just get 2 $500 Visas (which can be substituted, but not a Wal-Mart card) and just use them at Wal-Mart (or wherever).[/quotecb2e780c16]

neverendingmoolah

27-01-2009 14:56:30

1. If my gift is a $1000 circuit city Gift Card, I can substitute 2 x $500 Circuit City GC or a >$1000 plasma TV (or some other expensive SINGLE item) or a $1000 Best Buy GC but I cannot substitute 2 x $500 Best Buy GC.

Likewise, a $1000 Visa GC can be substituted with 2 x $500 VISA GC or 1 x $1000 Amex but not 2 x $500 Amex GC.

I dont think there is a total consensus on substituting with the 2x $500 Visa GC. Someone posted earlier that this was on another forum, but it is not definite and I think this is still somewhat iffy. Substitute it with a $1000 Amex. Best to be safe than sorry.

ryan.b08

27-01-2009 15:01:00

[quote70e6dabe1e="neverendingmoolah"]

I dont think there is a total consensus on substituting with the 2x $500 Visa GC. Someone posted earlier that this was on another forum, but it is not definite and I think this is still somewhat iffy. Substitute it with a $1000 Amex. Best to be safe than sorry.[/quote70e6dabe1e]

Has anyone got confirmation on the 2x $500 Visas from Mpell FOR SURE?

ashilef

27-01-2009 15:10:50

Just double checking to make sure, we can initially add a $1000 to a walmart money card correct?

FreeOffersNow

27-01-2009 15:13:09

Sending in certs today. Yay.

orangejuice

27-01-2009 15:33:40

Just mailed out 4 of them, priority mail with delivery confirm.

Zags1199

27-01-2009 15:35:08

Wow, I'm going to get screwed over in this because Brandarama can't get a simple address right. God only knows where my certificates are. This sucks beyond belief.

mweiss

27-01-2009 16:13:46

[quote4456ba54f1="mtomm"]The key would be not to pay shipping (at least one way) and checking return policies.[/quote4456ba54f1]

I placed an order at Saks.com and purchased a pair of shoes for $1,009
I used a code to get free regular shipping and upgraded to rush delivery. Shipping only cost me 7.50 and then when I contacted saks live help because I didn't receive an email confirmation wthin 20 minutes, they reimbursed the shipping charges.

I can return the shoes to a saks store and not pay any return fees, and now have gotten free shipping. So basically I will only lose $1.50

I also called MPell about the issue of the purchase being over $1,000 and they said that it will count and they will reimburse me for $1,000 only.

But now that somebody has mentioned that buying actual items may not count and only gift cards will, I'm a bit worried. Is there confirmation on this?

ashilef

27-01-2009 16:20:33

[quote1c5d4545f2="mweiss"][quote1c5d4545f2="mtomm"]The key would be not to pay shipping (at least one way) and checking return policies.[/quote1c5d4545f2]

I placed an order at Saks.com and purchased a pair of shoes for $1,009
I used a code to get free regular shipping and upgraded to rush delivery. Shipping only cost me 7.50 and then when I contacted saks live help because I didn't receive an email confirmation wthin 20 minutes, they reimbursed the shipping charges.

I can return the shoes to a saks store and not pay any return fees, and now have gotten free shipping. So basically I will only lose $1.50

I also called MPell about the issue of the purchase being over $1,000 and they said that it will count and they will reimburse me for $1,000 only.

[b1c5d4545f2]But now that somebody has mentioned that buying actual items may not count and only gift cards will[/b1c5d4545f2], I'm a bit worried. Is there confirmation on this?[/quote1c5d4545f2]

Who said that?

Eeyore

27-01-2009 16:22:06

"But now that somebody has mentioned that buying actual items may not count and only gift cards will, I'm a bit worried. Is there confirmation on this?"

You can buy lioneli item and have it count. Not sure where you got that from.

luumon

27-01-2009 16:22:07

another dumb question. can you buy a money order with a visa/amex gift card?

mjforever

27-01-2009 16:23:24

[quotee1ac7b6521="mweiss"][quotee1ac7b6521="mtomm"]The key would be not to pay shipping (at least one way) and checking return policies.[/quotee1ac7b6521]

I placed an order at Saks.com and purchased a pair of shoes for $1,009
I used a code to get free regular shipping and upgraded to rush delivery. Shipping only cost me 7.50 and then when I contacted saks live help because I didn't receive an email confirmation wthin 20 minutes, they reimbursed the shipping charges.

I can return the shoes to a saks store and not pay any return fees, and now have gotten free shipping. So basically I will only lose $1.50

I also called MPell about the issue of the purchase being over $1,000 and they said that it will count and they will reimburse me for $1,000 only.

But now that somebody has mentioned that buying actual items may not count and only gift cards will, I'm a bit worried. Is there confirmation on this?[/quotee1ac7b6521]


That's not true. I called Mpell 10 times today to ask about the giftcard thing. They said you can buy anything. Not just giftcard. I purchased appliances and Jewelries for all of my $13k certificates.

vijay04964

27-01-2009 16:24:37

Alright a couple quick questions how reliable is giftcards.com? And is there a better site to buy $500 gift cards than this one?

Getstuff4free Kyle

27-01-2009 16:25:11

[quoteeae55e94c2="luumon"]another dumb question. can you buy a money order with a visa/amex gift card?[/quoteeae55e94c2]

That's a good question, I don't know.

RyanG

27-01-2009 16:30:58

[quote3a495521e4="vijay04964"]Alright a couple quick questions how reliable is giftcards.com? And is there a better site to buy $500 gift cards than this one?[/quote3a495521e4]

bought from them before, worked fine.

mjforever

27-01-2009 16:31:28

[quoteff1a622c75="luumon"]another dumb question. can you buy a money order with a visa/amex gift card?[/quoteff1a622c75]


money order doesn't count. call mpell.

luumon

27-01-2009 16:33:35

[quote802777e9e4="mjforever"][quote802777e9e4="luumon"]another dumb question. can you buy a money order with a visa/amex gift card?[/quote802777e9e4]


money order doesn't count. call mpell.[/quote802777e9e4]

i know it doesn't count. i was thinking of cashing out the money order.

mweiss

27-01-2009 16:39:50

[quote2a07f35733="orangejuice"]come on roll take the extra 10 seconds to correct the spelling. what exactly are you saying? i've been buying TV's and shit to substitute gifts. don't tell me now that isnt allowed..[/quote2a07f35733]

That's where I got it from.. I'm not sure where he got it from though lol

ghounds07

27-01-2009 16:40:52

Just sent my certs in today via priority mail with delivery confirmation, and now the wait begins...

wiebelhaus03

27-01-2009 16:54:08

still haven't even received my certs.....waiting on 11 i believe

tylerc

27-01-2009 16:54:49

[quotefbab94e625="luumon"][quotefbab94e625="mjforever"][quotefbab94e625="luumon"]another dumb question. can you buy a money order with a visa/amex gift card?[/quotefbab94e625]


money order doesn't count. call mpell.[/quotefbab94e625]

i know it doesn't count. i was thinking of cashing out the money order.[/quotefbab94e625]

I don't think you can use these to purchase money orders.

RyanG

27-01-2009 17:04:39

most likely these will be processed in batches similiar to i-deal. sending away now or end of next week most likely will end in the same wait.

ghounds07

27-01-2009 17:09:59

Most likely the ones received first will get their cash back sooner.

yay useless posts

steveyankee

27-01-2009 17:17:31

Yup, hopefully it's first come first served D

RyanG

27-01-2009 17:22:01

[quote7b1604d6e1="ghounds07"]Most likely the ones received first will get their cash back sooner.

yay useless posts[/quote7b1604d6e1]

coming from the guy that had to make a point that he sent in his forms already? yay useless posts

here's a ) to pretend like i'm joking.

ghounds07

27-01-2009 17:25:05

I realized that after I posted but it's all good, we both fail hah...

edgespeeder04

27-01-2009 17:31:06

Alright so I will call them tomorrow and confirm whether online receipts of visa or american express gift card purchases count.

RolltheStampede

27-01-2009 17:54:40

[quote42778d014d="mweiss"][quote42778d014d="orangejuice"]come on roll take the extra 10 seconds to correct the spelling. what exactly are you saying? i've been buying TV's and shit to substitute gifts. don't tell me now that isnt allowed..[/quote42778d014d]

That's where I got it from.. I'm not sure where he got it from though lol[/quote42778d014d]

i said what now? the cert says you can get 1 item as a substitute

ploppsdman

27-01-2009 18:23:58

Wow, I'm going to get screwed over in this because Brandarama can't get a simple address right. God only knows where my certificates are. This sucks beyond belief.

What did mpell say? Can you get them to resend them ... did you contact brandarama? Did you check your address on brandarama.com?

ryndne

27-01-2009 18:27:26

[quotea068d318f8="brett7258"]Before we all rush to Key bank, I asked for some more details about the card I posted earlier and the only caveat to the card is that if you are NOT a member you can only get them for $500. If you are a member you can take advantage of the $2500 daily limit. Being a member consists of having something like their FREE checking which you can get online in like 5 minutes. The checking requires a minimum opening deposit of $50 and if you close it in 180 days it costs you $25. You can all do the math and figure out what is best for you.[/quotea068d318f8]

More info on the Key Bank from personal experience. I got a $500 MC, they call it a "Key Possibilities Card" - no problems, 3.95 fee. Needed an ID. Got a receipt that looks exactly like id hope to send off and another pseudo "gift receipt" that has the total value and the PIN for the card. Of course I went right outside and tried to take $ out of the ATM 2 minutes later, no dice. The balance showed up, but it said the withdraw option wasnt available. Not sure how long it took to process through, but by ~2 hours later the withdraw was fine. I took $300 out thinking it would limit me but just as a test I tried to immediately take another $180 -- poof! more money. (by requesting another transaction without getting my card back, not a separate one). $1/transaction leaves $18 on the card for misc purposes or cash back from CVS or something.

I'm not sure if you can buy more than one at a time on the same receipt ($500+500=1000) or if I could have just withdrawn the entire $480 at once (save $1). That's a trial for tomorrow. Anything under the max limit ($500) I'll just load an extra $1 on to begin with to avoid the fact that ATM only spits out in 20's.

tylerc

27-01-2009 18:35:23

Great to hear, thanks.

krazikorean

27-01-2009 18:45:20

i just got the letter in the mail today as well. i been reading what everyone has said, but i am going to call to make sure exactly from their mouths what the terms are. Probably going to ask to speak with a supervisor. I went through rewardsparade for a $1000 gift card back in Nov 07! To my suprise i guess they didnt' screw me over, but i hate that you have to shell out your own money for something they going to give you anyways. I hope we can buy 2 visa $500 GC's or i gotta find the closest keybank and open an account. roll Lets hope for the best!!!

bruman

27-01-2009 18:48:48

Anyone know where to purchase a $500 AMEX in person/not online?

All retail stores I've found only go up to $100.

dmorris68

27-01-2009 19:24:46

[quoteb5b6930de6="tylerc"][quoteb5b6930de6="luumon"][quoteb5b6930de6="mjforever"][quoteb5b6930de6="luumon"]another dumb question. can you buy a money order with a visa/amex gift card?[/quoteb5b6930de6]


money order doesn't count. call mpell.[/quoteb5b6930de6]

i know it doesn't count. i was thinking of cashing out the money order.[/quoteb5b6930de6]

I don't think you can use these to purchase money orders.[/quoteb5b6930de6]
No, in all likelihood it won't work.

You can't easily convert ANY credit card transaction (which a gift card is) to cash without paying a fee. This is why most stores give you a refund to your card. VISA and MC charge fees for cash advances/withdrawals, or negotiate with certain banks and issuers to supply PINs for use at ATMs (with fees, of course). If people could just convert them to cash with a purchase/return or by funding a cashiers check, money order, or other cash instrument, they would get around this extra revenue stream.

ryan.b08

27-01-2009 19:25:40

[quoteeb0daa1baa="ryan.b08"][quoteeb0daa1baa="neverendingmoolah"]

I dont think there is a total consensus on substituting with the 2x $500 Visa GC. Someone posted earlier that this was on another forum, but it is not definite and I think this is still somewhat iffy. Substitute it with a $1000 Amex. Best to be safe than sorry.[/quoteeb0daa1baa]

[beb0daa1baa]Has anyone got confirmation on the 2x $500 Visas from Mpell FOR SURE?[/beb0daa1baa][/quoteeb0daa1baa]

poser

27-01-2009 19:27:15

I work at a drug store and the only form of payment for a money order is debit/cash.

orangejuice

27-01-2009 20:35:20

I had a quick question if anyone knows, I shipped out a certificate thru the UPS store and they put the printed postage on the back of the envelope. No postage was on the front ( the label was too big). is this going to be a problem? does the USPS look on the front and back when processing mail ?? its just a regular sized envelope. i checked the USPS site tracking and nothing showed up...

slambam

27-01-2009 20:43:05

[quoted13042c5a0="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quoted13042c5a0]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.

Eeyore

27-01-2009 21:00:01

[quote60c2a66602="orangejuice"]I had a quick question if anyone knows, I shipped out a certificate thru the UPS store and they put the printed postage on the back of the envelope. No postage was on the front ( the label was too big). is this going to be a problem? does the USPS look on the front and back when processing mail ?? its just a regular sized envelope. i checked the USPS site tracking and nothing showed up...[/quote60c2a66602]
They'll eventually find it but your envelope will probably get kicked out by the high speed sorters for manual intervention, meaning it will take longer to get there than it would if it were stamped correctly.

What did you use that required a huge postage sticker?

orangejuice

27-01-2009 21:09:10

The guy at the UPS store put the huge Postage Sticker that they use for boxes i guess on it...i was kinda pissed. i just hope it gets there. lol. i think i had my return address on it

Zags1199

27-01-2009 21:09:45

[quote9d789e199f="ploppsdman"][quote9d789e199f="Zags1199"]Wow, I'm going to get screwed over in this because Brandarama can't get a simple address right. God only knows where my certificates are. This sucks beyond belief.[/quote9d789e199f]

What did mpell say? Can you get them to resend them ... did you contact brandarama? Did you check your address on brandarama.com?[/quote9d789e199f]

I've had Brandarama change my address three or four times now. They always change it, but then somehow, the website reverts back and combines my two address, basically, and comes up with this ridiculous address. I'm trying to sort it out with Brandarama, but Kim hasn't been too helpful so far. She realizes that the address is wrong, but she told me I have to wait 7-10 days to allow the mail to go out, which doesn't even make any sense because we both know I probably won't receive it.

Maybe by some act of God I will receive it. I guess I should remain optimistic for now.

slambam

27-01-2009 21:19:18

and mpell wont get them to you? I'd try contacting mpell and pleading, because they seem to be the ones who sent them.

beerman

27-01-2009 21:30:54

my 9 certs are complete and being sent tomorrow morning

desertwilite

27-01-2009 21:47:49

[quote1c95bbf9f9="slambam"][quote1c95bbf9f9="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quote1c95bbf9f9]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.[/quote1c95bbf9f9]

Be careful with that.....I got a different response

"1. You may send in all certificates in one envelope. Staple each certificate with it's required paperwork. One I.D. is only acceptable if you're sending in one certificate. "I hope this helps some of you.

ryan.b08

27-01-2009 22:03:14

[quote766d6d97a8="ryan.b08"][quote766d6d97a8="ryan.b08"][quote766d6d97a8="neverendingmoolah"]

I dont think there is a total consensus on substituting with the 2x $500 Visa GC. Someone posted earlier that this was on another forum, but it is not definite and I think this is still somewhat iffy. Substitute it with a $1000 Amex. Best to be safe than sorry.[/quote766d6d97a8]

[b766d6d97a8]Has anyone got confirmation on the 2x $500 Visas from Mpell FOR SURE?[/b766d6d97a8][/quote766d6d97a8][/quote766d6d97a8]

Getstuff4free Kyle

27-01-2009 22:33:48

[quote2382db38ba="ryan.b08"][quote2382db38ba="ryan.b08"][quote2382db38ba="ryan.b08"][quote2382db38ba="neverendingmoolah"]

I dont think there is a total consensus on substituting with the 2x $500 Visa GC. Someone posted earlier that this was on another forum, but it is not definite and I think this is still somewhat iffy. Substitute it with a $1000 Amex. Best to be safe than sorry.[/quote2382db38ba]

[b2382db38ba]Has anyone got confirmation on the 2x $500 Visas from Mpell FOR SURE?[/b2382db38ba][/quote2382db38ba][/quote2382db38ba][/quote2382db38ba]

Please quote your post a few more times. It's much easier than calling them yourself and finding out.

ploppsdman

27-01-2009 22:51:23

To be safer, I'm going with individual envelopes.

ghounds07

27-01-2009 22:53:19

[quotee6c092f1ef="desertwilite"][quotee6c092f1ef="slambam"][quotee6c092f1ef="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quotee6c092f1ef]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.[/quotee6c092f1ef]

Be careful with that.....I got a different response

"1. You may send in all certificates in one envelope. Staple each certificate with it's required paperwork. One I.D. is only acceptable if you're sending in one certificate. "I hope this helps some of you.[/quotee6c092f1ef]

The lady I spoke to today said we only had to send in one ID.

prizejunkie

27-01-2009 22:55:17

this sucks, i need to do something about this 2500 voucher... and fast

ashilef

27-01-2009 23:00:07

[quoted575d4fa7a="ploppsdman"]To be safer, I'm going with individual envelopes.[/quoted575d4fa7a]

Me too.

orangejuice

27-01-2009 23:17:37

When they say "a copy of the receipt", does that mean you can make a copy on your scanner or do you have to include the actual receipt ?

ghounds07

27-01-2009 23:26:05

I just scanned it. That is a copy.

bruman

27-01-2009 23:28:17

Check this out guys
Someone filed a ripoffreport against brandarama and mpell
and mpell actually replied to it

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

[quoteae003c75d2]False Accusation of Mpell Solutions

Mpell Solutions is a BBB accredited company with an A rating. We are a fulfillment company which simply means we ship products for our customers. Our customers are responsible for advertising and offer eligibility, we are not, and we have no control over their actions. They pay us a fee to ship products to their customers according to their instructions. We are in no way responsible for any of the issues described in this complaint. In fact, we take offense at even being mentioned. It is akin to blaming UPS if you are unsatisfied with a product purchased at Amazon.[/quoteae003c75d2]

dubbin87

28-01-2009 04:39:46

[quotebb8f2cba61="desertwilite"][quotebb8f2cba61="slambam"][quotebb8f2cba61="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quotebb8f2cba61]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.[/quotebb8f2cba61]

Be careful with that.....I got a different response

"1. You may send in all certificates in one envelope. Staple each certificate with it's required paperwork. One I.D. is only acceptable if you're sending in one certificate. "I hope this helps some of you.[/quotebb8f2cba61]

is it really going to hurt to make a few more copies? I'm sending my certs in one envelope but rather than take a chance each one is getting a ID copy. Come on people stop acting like idiots... roll

dubbin87

28-01-2009 04:40:41

[quoted6a3f164a1="bruman"]Check this out guys
Someone filed a ripoffreport against brandarama and mpell
and mpell actually replied to it

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

[quoted6a3f164a1]False Accusation of Mpell Solutions

Mpell Solutions is a BBB accredited company with an A rating. We are a fulfillment company which simply means we ship products for our customers. Our customers are responsible for advertising and offer eligibility, we are not, and we have no control over their actions. They pay us a fee to ship products to their customers according to their instructions. We are in no way responsible for any of the issues described in this complaint. In fact, we take offense at even being mentioned. It is akin to blaming UPS if you are unsatisfied with a product purchased at Amazon.[/quoted6a3f164a1][/quoted6a3f164a1]

Nice to see they are standing up for themselves and not ignoring it. Makes me feel better about MPell.

DRay9911

28-01-2009 05:29:42

[quotebf0ca90e4a="bruman"]Anyone know where to purchase a $500 AMEX in person/not online?

All retail stores I've found only go up to $100.[/quotebf0ca90e4a]

the highest i saw was $200 at CVS but they didn't have any in stock.


[quotebf0ca90e4a="ryan.b08"][quotebf0ca90e4a="ryan.b08"][quotebf0ca90e4a="ryan.b08"][quotebf0ca90e4a="neverendingmoolah"]

I dont think there is a total consensus on substituting with the 2x $500 Visa GC. Someone posted earlier that this was on another forum, but it is not definite and I think this is still somewhat iffy. Substitute it with a $1000 Amex. Best to be safe than sorry.[/quotebf0ca90e4a]

[bbf0ca90e4a]Has anyone got confirmation on the 2x $500 Visas from Mpell FOR SURE?[/bbf0ca90e4a][/quotebf0ca90e4a][/quotebf0ca90e4a][/quotebf0ca90e4a]

if you aren't going to grow a pair and call them yourself, please quote your own post a few more times. maybe you'll do the rest of us a favor and get banned.


[quotebf0ca90e4a="bruman"]Check this out guys
Someone filed a ripoffreport against brandarama and mpell
and mpell actually replied to it

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

[quotebf0ca90e4a]False Accusation of Mpell Solutions

Mpell Solutions is a BBB accredited company with an A rating. We are a fulfillment company which simply means we ship products for our customers. Our customers are responsible for advertising and offer eligibility, we are not, and we have no control over their actions. They pay us a fee to ship products to their customers according to their instructions. We are in no way responsible for any of the issues described in this complaint. In fact, we take offense at even being mentioned. It is akin to blaming UPS if you are unsatisfied with a product purchased at Amazon.[/quotebf0ca90e4a][/quotebf0ca90e4a]

+1 to mpell

ashilef

28-01-2009 06:33:38

[quotef2c03e0772="dubbin87"][quotef2c03e0772="desertwilite"][quotef2c03e0772="slambam"][quotef2c03e0772="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quotef2c03e0772]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.[/quotef2c03e0772]

Be careful with that.....I got a different response

"1. You may send in all certificates in one envelope. Staple each certificate with it's required paperwork. One I.D. is only acceptable if you're sending in one certificate. "I hope this helps some of you.[/quotef2c03e0772]

is it really going to hurt to make a few more copies? I'm sending my certs in one envelope but rather than take a chance each one is getting a ID copy. Come on people stop [bf2c03e0772]acting like idiots[/bf2c03e0772]... roll[/quotef2c03e0772]

I'm sure that wasn't necessary...

RolltheStampede

28-01-2009 06:34:14

I used to get amexes from UPS i think they had 500 cards

IT was weird though cause it wasn't a US store it was on the counter at like one of the warehouses where i picked up a package. I think this was before the UPS stores took off though.

dubbin87

28-01-2009 06:59:32

[quote8782063aed="ashilef"][quote8782063aed="dubbin87"][quote8782063aed="desertwilite"][quote8782063aed="slambam"][quote8782063aed="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quote8782063aed]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.[/quote8782063aed]

Be careful with that.....I got a different response

"1. You may send in all certificates in one envelope. Staple each certificate with it's required paperwork. One I.D. is only acceptable if you're sending in one certificate. "I hope this helps some of you.[/quote8782063aed]

is it really going to hurt to make a few more copies? I'm sending my certs in one envelope but rather than take a chance each one is getting a ID copy. Come on people stop [b8782063aed]acting like idiots[/b8782063aed]... roll[/quote8782063aed]

I'm sure that wasn't necessary...[/quote8782063aed]20 plus pages of people going round and round asking the same thing 5-6 posts apart, sorry but people are acting like they are 5 years old. Use a bit of common sense here and stop asking people to hold your hand while so you can make a decision.

edgespeeder04

28-01-2009 07:01:41

and the reason why my thread would've been useful ^^^^ could've been locked by a mod and updated with all this information so people stop asking repetitive questions because they can't read.

dubbin87

28-01-2009 07:12:35

[quote1073561f1c="edgespeeder04"]and the reason why my thread would've been useful ^^^^ could've been locked by a mod and updated with all this information so people stop asking repetitive questions because they can't read.[/quote1073561f1c]Yeah, don't people understand what you were trying to say in your thread... oh well this thread will blow up to 100+ pages by the end of the month with the same 8 questions being asked. roll

ashilef

28-01-2009 07:12:55

[quote43176713ad="dubbin87"][quote43176713ad="ashilef"][quote43176713ad="dubbin87"][quote43176713ad="desertwilite"][quote43176713ad="slambam"][quote43176713ad="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quote43176713ad]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.[/quote43176713ad]

Be careful with that.....I got a different response

"1. You may send in all certificates in one envelope. Staple each certificate with it's required paperwork. One I.D. is only acceptable if you're sending in one certificate. "I hope this helps some of you.[/quote43176713ad]

is it really going to hurt to make a few more copies? I'm sending my certs in one envelope but rather than take a chance each one is getting a ID copy. Come on people stop [b43176713ad]acting like idiots[/b43176713ad]... roll[/quote43176713ad]

I'm sure that wasn't necessary...[/quote43176713ad]20 plus pages of people going round and round asking the same thing 5-6 posts apart, sorry but people are acting like they are 5 years old. Use a bit of common sense here and stop asking people to hold your hand while so you can make a decision.[/quote43176713ad]

I understand your frustration, but the mods said no more bashing or being rude to each other.I have been guilty of this too.. just ignore the post that bug you. I don't want the thread to get locked.

skinnyhoops

28-01-2009 07:26:36

wooo! my $1000 amex arrived today UPS. and I just placed my order for a new tv TEE HEE

By the way, wanted to pass on a good deal going on right now at Beach Camera. The samsung 32" 1080p LCD HDTV LN32A550 (the highest rated 32" on ConsumerReports) is going for $729.95.

steveyankee

28-01-2009 07:27:20

Yeah, this thread is a joke to me now. Too many people coming in here asking the same questions. If it's not the same, they're asking if it's ok to send it with a red stamp, if it's ok to send it in on a Monday before noon, in fear they will get DQ.

Eeyore

28-01-2009 07:42:40

YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY??!??!?!

Does anyone have confirmation of this?>?????

8)

At least it's entertaining, kind of like watching a dog chase it's tail.

dubbin87

28-01-2009 07:44:05

[quoteacf79eb35b="Eeyore"]YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY??!??!?!

Does anyone have confirmation of this?>?????

8)

At least it's entertaining, kind of like watching a dog chase it's tail.[/quoteacf79eb35b]

and I used a blue stamp. cry cry

JANGALANG32

28-01-2009 08:15:06

whats the phone #'s to mpell? i already sent my forms in so i dont have it anymore

ghounds07

28-01-2009 08:18:47

(800) 450-1575.

I all ready sent in my forms as well, but its also on the other form / not the actual certificate in case you still have that.

bruman

28-01-2009 08:27:11

[quote9c2e36e557="skinnyhoops"]wooo! my $1000 amex arrived today UPS. and I just placed my order for a new tv TEE HEE

By the way, wanted to pass on a good deal going on right now at Beach Camera. The samsung 32" 1080p LCD HDTV LN32A550 (the highest rated 32" on ConsumerReports) is going for $729.95.[/quote9c2e36e557]

which state was your amex shipped from?

kwoodyk34k

28-01-2009 08:53:31

Lol, Woo!
The nearest key bank is only 70.94 miles away!

poser

28-01-2009 09:03:47

[quoteac27928595="skinnyhoops"]wooo! my $1000 amex arrived today UPS. and I just placed my order for a new tv TEE HEE

.[/quoteac27928595]

where did you order it from?

mctrask

28-01-2009 09:13:33

It looks like ARG/Brandarama created this mess because they need to clean up their books in a hurry.

[quote8c9f420614]TransTech Services Partners Inc. and Active Response Group, Inc. Agree to Extend Letter of Intent

NEW YORK, Jan. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TransTech Services Partners
Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board TTSPU) ("TransTech") a special purpose acquisition
company, today announced that TransTech entered into an amendment of its LOI
with Active Response Group, Inc. ("ARG"), extending the date of expiration of
the exclusivity period under the LOI to January 30, 2009. The terms of the
amended LOI provide that if, by January 30, 2009, definitive agreements are
not executed and delivered and a substantially final form of proxy statement
is not ready for filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the
exclusivity period under the LOI shall expire, allowing either party to
terminate the LOI if it no longer wishes to proceed with the transaction.
Consummation of the proposed business combination between TransTech and ARG is
subject to completion of due diligence by TransTech and receipt of requisite
shareholder approval.
[/quote8c9f420614]

http//www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS203402+05-Jan-2009+PRN20090105

For those that are going to get screwed by Brandarama's new requirements, I spoke to the the NY Attorney General's office this am and they said this situation is definitely worth looking into. They encouraged the filing of complaints and said to send copies of whatever documentation you have along with the complaint. The more complaints filed, the higher it rises on their priority list.

kwoodyk34k

28-01-2009 09:21:15

[quoteeb9166f67d="skinnyhoops"]wooo! my $1000 amex arrived today UPS. and I just placed my order for a new tv TEE HEE

By the way, wanted to pass on a good deal going on right now at Beach Camera. The samsung 32" 1080p LCD HDTV LN32A550 (the highest rated 32" on ConsumerReports) is going for $729.95.[/quoteeb9166f67d]

Yes. Where oh where?

RyanG

28-01-2009 09:24:19

ain't that hard

https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1

darkxodia

28-01-2009 09:42:03

Does anyone know if I can use an AMEX gift card to purchase another AMEX gift card because I don't got the type of money to shell out.

Also what is everybody going to do with the $2500 scholarship because AMEX gc goes from $2000 to $3000. Is it possible to buy like a $2000 and a $500 gc to fulfill the requirements just like the 2x$500 = $1000 visa.

bruman

28-01-2009 09:45:23

I bought a $3,000 card for my $2500 scholarship

dubbin87

28-01-2009 09:50:15

anyone know how I can get these certificate back to MPell? I mean is there some type of business out there that does this? Or am I going to have to pack up my car and drive them there myself? If so where can I purchace fuel for my car? or do i just have to refine some oil myself?

oh crap, can someone help me breathe? I got the exhale part down...HELP!!!!

RolltheStampede

28-01-2009 09:53:46

Go to the park and find some pigeons, then you have to train them to deliver the letter. saves on gas

www.carryyopigeon.com

MamaToldMeDIY

28-01-2009 10:04:53

Why did you buy a THIRTY TWO INCH 1080p?

for a PC monitor I'm hoping

because 32" isn't even big enough for the 1080p to be discernible.

skinnyhoops

28-01-2009 10:05:48

[quote93ca7215de="bruman"][quote93ca7215de="skinnyhoops"]wooo! my $1000 amex arrived today UPS. and I just placed my order for a new tv TEE HEE

By the way, wanted to pass on a good deal going on right now at Beach Camera. The samsung 32" 1080p LCD HDTV LN32A550 (the highest rated 32" on ConsumerReports) is going for $729.95.[/quote93ca7215de]

which state was your amex shipped from?[/quote93ca7215de]

It was shipped from NJ

skinnyhoops

28-01-2009 10:11:12

[quote702e7149a7="MamaToldMeDIY"]Why did you buy a THIRTY TWO INCH 1080p?

for a PC monitor I'm hoping

because 32" isn't even big enough for the 1080p to be discernible.[/quote702e7149a7]

The 32" 1080p is for a bedroom, we already have a 46" 1080p in the living room

oleus

28-01-2009 10:38:56

for those of you sending in your certificated for Amex gc's, are you waiting to receive the card and copying that receipt that comes with it or sending in the email confirmation receipt?

MamaToldMeDIY

28-01-2009 10:39:15

You should've went with a 720p for half that price, man.

or got a 42" 1080p for the same price on Amazon...the Panny 42" is only like 799.99 and it's 1080p

You can't even tell the difference between 1080p and 720p on a small TV like a 32", unless you're using it for a monitor.

orangejuice

28-01-2009 10:49:16

Or an xbox 360, i can tell right away 720p vs 1080 on an xbox 32" screen..

skinnyhoops

28-01-2009 10:50:13

[quote361fcecf8a="MamaToldMeDIY"]You should've went with a 720p for half that price, man.

or got a 42" 1080p for the same price on Amazon...the Panny 42" is only like 799.99 and it's 1080p

You can't even tell the difference between 1080p and 720p on a small TV like a 32", unless you're using it for a monitor.[/quote361fcecf8a]

Yeah I understand what you mean, actually that amazon 42" panisonic is about $1000 shipped...i got the 32" for $750 shipped and I still have about $250 remaining balance on the gift card, which is kinda what I wanted too. I think we'll be okay with the 1080p even though there may not be much difference on cable, but should see difference on the xbox360 right?

skinnyhoops

28-01-2009 10:50:49

[quoted11244c9c3="orangejuice"]Or an xbox 360, i can tell right away 720p vs 1080 on an xbox 32" screen..[/quoted11244c9c3]

dude you posted my answer as i was posting my question. lol

MamaToldMeDIY

28-01-2009 11:36:59

ya if you use Xbox or Playstation, I tried watching a Bluray and didn't notice ANY difference on a smaller TV.

unless you sit like 1 foot away

MamaToldMeDIY

28-01-2009 11:40:04

http//www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Viera-TH-42PZ80U-1080p-Plasma/dp/B00142MUDS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1233171473&sr=8-2

That's the 1080 42" Panny, it usually is around 799.99 but right now it's at 899.99, an awesome TV for the price.

I have the non-1080p version of the same TV in my office/guest room

this is my baby I'm getting next right here

52" Sharp Aquos 120hz 1080p TV, I have the 52" Aquos just like it except it's not 120hz in my living room

I want this one for my office and move my 42" from there to my bedroom

I'm a damn electronics freak, it's my addiction lol...especially with all this "free" money I've been getting

ward_ku

28-01-2009 11:50:11

If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant!

zr2152

28-01-2009 11:54:34

[quotefbd8f1cdf7="ward_ku"]If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant![/quotefbd8f1cdf7]

That's good news man.

Although I might be a little nervous to find out what the other alternative might be....

tml09

28-01-2009 12:02:41

[quotebd0c0434ea="ward_ku"]If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant![/quotebd0c0434ea]

Did you annoy the bloody hell out of them? Or do you just have a hunch that would work?

I might just complain like hell -)
t!

dubbin87

28-01-2009 12:09:45

[quoteef2fb72daf="ward_ku"]If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant![/quoteef2fb72daf]

I assume this is for Brandarma? Hell maybe bitching to them will keep me distracted from the people whining on here.

poser

28-01-2009 12:20:24

Has anyone found a place to buy $500 or above in store?

DRay9911

28-01-2009 12:20:40

there's no way i'm calling a number some n00b posts unless i know what it is first.

and i have a hard time believing they have been answering questions since last month when the first letters started arriving in our mailboxes on friday.

-dan



[quoted2174657b7="ward_ku"]If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant![/quoted2174657b7]

soccerbud

28-01-2009 12:38:53

[quote72aa57bb51="ward_ku"]If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant![/quote72aa57bb51]

or you might piss them off enough and they'll become extra anal during the entire redemption process.

don't ruin it for other folks man.

steveyankee

28-01-2009 12:38:57

Well, they got my paperwork this morning.

Time to see how it goes.

Eeyore

28-01-2009 12:40:53

[quotec586872eb4="ward_ku"]The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters.[/quotec586872eb4]
Considering that this just started [bc586872eb4]last week[/bc586872eb4], I have doubts about your story being accurate.

manOFice

28-01-2009 12:45:53

[quoteaf932c07ce="steveyankee"]Well, they got my paperwork this morning.

Time to see how it goes.[/quoteaf932c07ce]

Keep us posted!

Armstrong

28-01-2009 13:02:54

[quote2f2e0ceb41="soccerbud"][quote2f2e0ceb41="ward_ku"]If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant![/quote2f2e0ceb41]

or you might piss them off enough and they'll become extra anal during the entire redemption process.

don't ruin it for other folks man.[/quote2f2e0ceb41]

I second that

livingloud28

28-01-2009 13:31:56

Dang he must have overnight that bad boy !

skinnyhoops

28-01-2009 13:33:04

I wanted to remind the people that are ordering Amex gift cards that you'll need to register your gift card before you can purchase anything online. It slipped my mind today. Just call the number on the back of the card or they said you can do online too.

Registering basically adds your name, address, and phone number so it will process like a normal credit card.

michae229

28-01-2009 14:00:08

they reimburse for taxes too right?

livingloud28

28-01-2009 14:02:02

No once again one item for the highest value that is on the reciept please read the forum . Do some work .

zr2152

28-01-2009 14:02:09

[quoteaff4e7a03a="michae229"]they reimburse for taxes too right?[/quoteaff4e7a03a]


I don't think we will be taxed with these vouchers.

wiebelhaus03

28-01-2009 14:08:45

he meant for the tax on the receipt......and its best to email them yourself so you have written proof, but someone said eariler (5-10 pages back) that the tax was also refunded

stagefrog2

28-01-2009 14:11:08

[quote6187dbe0fa="poser"]Has anyone found a place to buy $500 or above in store?[/quote6187dbe0fa]

Most check-cashing places will do it, but you might have to bring cash. One near me offers any amount visa or mc, but you have to pay entirely in cash, and you cannot use them at atms. There's an ACE Cash Express near me.

sweeedfish

28-01-2009 14:28:06

[quote238d9b6937="michae229"]they reimburse for taxes too right?[/quote238d9b6937]
Ya, say if the item is $480 and with taxes is over $500 and you are owed $500, you get your $500.

ploppsdman

28-01-2009 14:28:29

Anyone get an email reply since monday from Mpell? Sent an email Monday, no response yet .... guess Im calling tomorrow ... then its off to Key Bank.

wiebelhaus03

28-01-2009 14:29:45

i sent email monday received response today

kwoodyk34k

28-01-2009 14:36:00

[quote402d19f2ab="RyanG"]ain't that hard

https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1[/quote402d19f2ab]

These have no names on them making it very very hard to buy anything online with them. I had a $25 one and it was denied at like 10 websites because it didn't have a name before MLB.com finally let me buy a hat with it... lol.

(and yes, I did try it with my name as well)

ploppsdman

28-01-2009 14:36:52

As far as the Key Mastercard goes, I think a good idea is to put, if you are doing $500 dollars for reimbursement, $502 .... so that you don't have to worry about adding any more money for fees. IF you can do it in one transaction, you'll have 1 dollar left on the card .... as ryn posted, you can only w/draw 20s ... so ... if you withdrew $500 and you only have $500 on the card, you'll get an error most likely.

ploppsdman

28-01-2009 14:38:32

i sent email monday received response today

Thanks, wiebel. I'd prefer my answer in writing ... maybe tomorrow .. thanks, again.

RyanG

28-01-2009 15:06:02

[quote58cf7ddc7b="kwoodyk34k"][quote58cf7ddc7b="RyanG"]ain't that hard

https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1[/quote58cf7ddc7b]

These have no names on them making it very very hard to buy anything online with them. I had a $25 one and it was denied at like 10 websites because it didn't have a name before MLB.com finally let me buy a hat with it... lol.

(and yes, I did try it with my name as well)[/quote58cf7ddc7b]

you can register a name with it pretty easily. i was able to order online with them without a prob.

kwoodyk34k

28-01-2009 15:44:29

[quote0459e21ae8="RyanG"][quote0459e21ae8="kwoodyk34k"][quote0459e21ae8="RyanG"]ain't that hard

https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1[/quote0459e21ae8]

These have no names on them making it very very hard to buy anything online with them. I had a $25 one and it was denied at like 10 websites because it didn't have a name before MLB.com finally let me buy a hat with it... lol.

(and yes, I did try it with my name as well)[/quote0459e21ae8]

you can register a name with it pretty easily. i was able to order online with them without a prob.[/quote0459e21ae8]

Really? How?
Do you personalize it?
You can't register a name with ones you buy in person, right?

The local Chase Bank has $500 ones but my plan is to send money to my sister through PayPal with it and she'd pay me back with a check.
There is a 2.9% fee for doing this so I'd only do it until I had enough money to front.

I tried it with a cheap Visa with a name and it worked.
I tried it with a cheap AmEx without a name and it required a name.

bennyboy5768

28-01-2009 16:09:47

Mpell's second response on Ripoffreport.com

[quote4a15dc7c0a]Again, this is akin to requiring the Post Office to cut a check for a cell phone rebate that was declined by your carrier.

Mpell mails a check to the consumer when the certificate redemption instructions, created by our customer, are met. The offer is financed by the company who made that offer, not us, and they only finance redemptions that meet the criteria they established.

We truly understand and sympathize with the complaints being posted. In hindsight, our mistake was accepting this type of business. We respectfully ask that you don't shoot the messenger, we're doing our best in the limited role that we have.[/quote4a15dc7c0a]

I'm getting better feelings about them now.

RyanG

28-01-2009 16:25:02

[quote934fd40b23="kwoodyk34k"][quote934fd40b23="RyanG"][quote934fd40b23="kwoodyk34k"][quote934fd40b23="RyanG"]ain't that hard

https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1[/quote934fd40b23]

These have no names on them making it very very hard to buy anything online with them. I had a $25 one and it was denied at like 10 websites because it didn't have a name before MLB.com finally let me buy a hat with it... lol.

(and yes, I did try it with my name as well)[/quote934fd40b23]

you can register a name with it pretty easily. i was able to order online with them without a prob.[/quote934fd40b23]

Really? How?
Do you personalize it?
You can't register a name with ones you buy in person, right?

The local Chase Bank has $500 ones but my plan is to send money to my sister through PayPal with it and she'd pay me back with a check.
There is a 2.9% fee for doing this so I'd only do it until I had enough money to front.

I tried it with a cheap Visa with a name and it worked.
I tried it with a cheap AmEx without a name and it required a name.[/quote934fd40b23]

I believe you just call their customer service# and they put it on. 1-877-AXP-GIFT

orangejuice

28-01-2009 16:30:55

You guys better stop ripping these companies, you are gonna screw it up for the ppl that do have some money, maybe if you didnt spend all you make and actually saved some you could just put up with this crap and be able to do it. or get a better job

manOFice

28-01-2009 16:39:05

[quote893ab6efe3="orangejuice"]You guys better stop ripping these companies, you are gonna screw it up for the ppl that do have some money, maybe if you didnt spend all you make and actually saved some you could just put up with this crap and be able to do it. or get a better job[/quote893ab6efe3]

That was a horrible generalization..... roll

dmorris68

28-01-2009 16:51:27

[quote3a86427b0b="orangejuice"]You guys better stop ripping these companies, you are gonna screw it up for the ppl that do have some money, maybe if you didnt spend all you make and actually saved some you could just put up with this crap and be able to do it. or get a better job[/quote3a86427b0b]
I'm sure your advice is an eye-opener for the struggling college kids, single parents, and unemployed who are barely surviving in this economic crisis. Now that you've explained what exactly they need to do, I'm sure all of their problems will be over shortly. roll

You know, this isn't the first asinine comment you've posted here -- keep it up and your welcome will be officially worn out.

kwoodyk34k

28-01-2009 16:56:54

[quoteb088e0e748="RyanG"][quoteb088e0e748="kwoodyk34k"][quoteb088e0e748="RyanG"][quoteb088e0e748="kwoodyk34k"][quoteb088e0e748="RyanG"]ain't that hard

https//www232.americanexpress.com/BOLWeb/bolfeOrder.do?request_type=orderProduct&promotion=ACP&program=ACPWEB&selleracctnbr=6430098999I&cc=US&producttypecd=B1[/quoteb088e0e748]

These have no names on them making it very very hard to buy anything online with them. I had a $25 one and it was denied at like 10 websites because it didn't have a name before MLB.com finally let me buy a hat with it... lol.

(and yes, I did try it with my name as well)[/quoteb088e0e748]

you can register a name with it pretty easily. i was able to order online with them without a prob.[/quoteb088e0e748]

Really? How?
Do you personalize it?
You can't register a name with ones you buy in person, right?

The local Chase Bank has $500 ones but my plan is to send money to my sister through PayPal with it and she'd pay me back with a check.
There is a 2.9% fee for doing this so I'd only do it until I had enough money to front.

I tried it with a cheap Visa with a name and it worked.
I tried it with a cheap AmEx without a name and it required a name.[/quoteb088e0e748]

I believe you just call their customer service# and they put it on. 1-877-AXP-GIFT[/quoteb088e0e748]

Thanks. I'll call tomorrow and try to add a name to one of my $25 ones and see if it works.

bennyboy5768

28-01-2009 17:04:23

Anyone looking to buy an AMEX gift card, use the promo code VR51 for no fees. I think S&H still applies though. Valid till 2/1/09

bayarea05

28-01-2009 17:04:30

[quotebe2be31fd2="orangejuice"]You guys better stop ripping these companies, you are gonna screw it up for the ppl that do have some money, maybe if you didnt spend all you make and actually saved some you could just put up with this crap and be able to do it. or get a better job[/quotebe2be31fd2]

why are u still here?

ashilef

28-01-2009 17:07:29

[quotee80db70df2="bayarea05"][quotee80db70df2="orangejuice"]You guys better stop ripping these companies, you are gonna screw it up for the ppl that do have some money, maybe if you didnt spend all you make and actually saved some you could just put up with this crap and be able to do it. or get a better job[/quotee80db70df2]

why are u still here?[/quotee80db70df2]

I'm sorry I lol'd at this...

oleus

28-01-2009 17:22:13

[quoted30d17a447="bennyboy5768"]Anyone looking to buy an AMEX gift card, use the promo code VR51 for no fees. I think S&H still applies though. Valid till 2/1/09[/quoted30d17a447]

hmmm i wonder if this is applied automatically as i just saw i was not charged a fee and my email confirmation states "100% fee discount".

for people who have already bought Amex cards and sent in your certificates, did you print out the confirmation email or make a copy of an invoice that comes physically with the card?

bogey523

28-01-2009 17:34:18

How closely do they look at how you pay for the gift card/item? My question is because I have chamber of commerce gift certificates that I have to use up in the amount of $150. I was thinking about using them to pay for the gift card ($500 at Walmart). I was going to use them at Walmart anyway to buy a digital camera and gps, which total around $300 together.

It's rough right now for me to come up with $500. I'd have to wait until the next statement day for my credit card, charge the $500 after I pay it off what's on it from this month, and then wait for the check to come or take $500 out of savings to pay the bill at the next statement day and then put the money back into savings. But at least I'll have it done with and the money/gifts in my hand.

oleus

28-01-2009 17:39:40

[quote60d523f2d5="bogey523"]How closely do they look at how you pay for the gift card/item? My question is because I have chamber of commerce gift certificates that I have to use up in the amount of $150. I was thinking about using them to pay for the gift card ($500 at Walmart). I was going to use them at Walmart anyway to buy a digital camera and gps, which total around $300 together.

It's rough right now for me to come up with $500. I'd have to wait until the next statement day for my credit card, charge the $500 after I pay it off what's on it from this month, and then wait for the check to come or take $500 out of savings to pay the bill at the next statement day and then put the money back into savings. But at least I'll have it done with and the money/gifts in my hand.[/quote60d523f2d5]

i don't think they would care as long as it's a real receipt you are sending them a copy of. how you paid for it shouldn't matter in the slightest, right?

wiebelhaus03

28-01-2009 17:43:23

finally got my certificates today (in MN)

dmorris68

28-01-2009 17:47:01

[quoteb779af2701="bogey523"]How closely do they look at how you pay for the gift card/item?[/quoteb779af2701]
Mind you, I don't have a horse in this race, but as an observer I've seen nothing whatsoever to indicate they care at all about how you pay for something. They're interested in a receipt showing a retail purchase between the valid dates. That's it. A gift certificate has cash value, if not literally then indirectly applied at purchase, just like a gift card, credit card, cash, check, etc. People have posted the terms from the letters, and if they had those sorts of restrictions I'm sure they'd have published them.

doylnea

28-01-2009 17:48:44

[quote1666ece28a="Armstrong"][quote1666ece28a="soccerbud"][quote1666ece28a="ward_ku"]If you are fed up with them then call this number and complain like hell 1-877-312-7263

I can tell that they are getting pissed with all of the compaints and on their last nerve. The woman I talked to said that she answers the same question everday since last month about the letters. Something tells me that if you are persistant and keep calling them they may balk and offer an alternative instead. Good luck and be persistant![/quote1666ece28a]

or you might piss them off enough and they'll become extra anal during the entire redemption process.

don't ruin it for other folks man.[/quote1666ece28a]

I second that[/quote1666ece28a]

thirded

skinnyhoops

28-01-2009 17:56:39

[quotecb10c23776="orangejuice"]You guys better stop ripping these companies, you are gonna screw it up for the ppl that do have some money, maybe if you didnt spend all you make and actually saved some you could just put up with this crap and be able to do it. or get a better job[/quotecb10c23776]

wow LOL thats some tangy juice in your cup

madmanx33

28-01-2009 18:41:59

Gentlemen I apologize and I have read every page but no one is really exact

Do you guys know if we can buy 2 $500 visa gift cards if we did the $1000 visa gift card offer. I cant find a $1000 visa gift card anywhere

mistertomlinson

28-01-2009 18:46:50

(Just jumping in here to beg everyone to either answer this guy's question or say nothing... if people keep becoming heated when someone asks a question already addressed pages ago, this thread is bound to be locked and I don't know about you, but I can't live without up to the minute updates on this matter... UP TO THE MINUTE!)

... and the majority say yes, you CAN buy 2 $500 Visas if you are owed a $1,000 Visa, but you CAN'T buy 2 $500 Amex or any other company's cards... only Visa.

tml09

28-01-2009 19:03:17

This is absolute fucking bullshit

"You may not use an old receipt. Your receipt must be dated on the issue date of the certificate or 30 days following the issue date on the certificate.

[b5fe1448727]There is no late fee on this promotion. Once its over, it's over.[/b5fe1448727]

[i5fe1448727]Thank you![/i5fe1448727]"


This is so damn fucked up. No extension? I have no money to buy a fucking $1000 visa ( yes, college ftl). This is how they want to make there money? Thats not even fair. I'm going to complain until I get my money.

SkatingCrippled

28-01-2009 19:12:07

[quote75a3a66311="tml09"]This is absolute fucking bullshit

"You may not use an old receipt. Your receipt must be dated on the issue date of the certificate or 30 days following the issue date on the certificate.

[b75a3a66311]There is no late fee on this promotion. Once its over, it's over.[/b75a3a66311]

[i75a3a66311]Thank you![/i75a3a66311]"


This is so damn fucked up. No extension? I have no money to buy a fucking $1000 visa ( yes, college ftl). This is how they want to make there money? Thats not even fair. I'm going to complain until I get my money.[/quote75a3a66311]

If you have no other options, take out a short term loan for the $1,000. As you can tell, complaining is not going to get you anywhere.

Or get a credit card.

ryndne

28-01-2009 19:34:26

[quoteb5453bdf71="ryndne"][quoteb5453bdf71="brett7258"]Before we all rush to Key bank, I asked for some more details about the card I posted earlier and the only caveat to the card is that if you are NOT a member you can only get them for $500. If you are a member you can take advantage of the $2500 daily limit. Being a member consists of having something like their FREE checking which you can get online in like 5 minutes. The checking requires a minimum opening deposit of $50 and if you close it in 180 days it costs you $25. You can all do the math and figure out what is best for you.[/quoteb5453bdf71]

More info on the Key Bank from personal experience. I got a $500 MC, they call it a "Key Possibilities Card" - no problems, 3.95 fee. Needed an ID. Got a receipt that looks exactly like id hope to send off and another pseudo "gift receipt" that has the total value and the PIN for the card. Of course I went right outside and tried to take $ out of the ATM 2 minutes later, no dice. The balance showed up, but it said the withdraw option wasnt available. Not sure how long it took to process through, but by ~2 hours later the withdraw was fine. I took $300 out thinking it would limit me but just as a test I tried to immediately take another $180 -- poof! more money. (by requesting another transaction without getting my card back, not a separate one). $1/transaction leaves $18 on the card for misc purposes or cash back from CVS or something.

I'm not sure if you can buy more than one at a time on the same receipt ($500+500=1000) or if I could have just withdrawn the entire $480 at once (save $1). That's a trial for tomorrow. Anything under the max limit ($500) I'll just load an extra $1 on to begin with to avoid the fact that ATM only spits out in 20's.[/quoteb5453bdf71]

Key Bank update time from my prior post like 5 pages back.

1) you can only get $500 per DAY as a non-customer, there is no way to do a 2x500 on one receipt in order to get to a value larger than their $500 limit

2) you can withdraw the entire amount from the ATM (up to 480 as a noncustomer) at once. Since the max is 500, you cant put $501 on it, the request to withdrawl posts as a $1 fee, making it impossible to withdraw $500 -- i tried just to check. would work great for any values under the limit though. $480 withdraw leaves $19 on the card for use in any way you see fit. maybe some of the people who keep asking the same question over and over and over again can use the extra $19 to take a reading comprehension class

tylerc

28-01-2009 19:54:57

Damn, so where can we get a $1,000 Visa that can be withdrawn at ATMs?

ryan.b08

28-01-2009 19:56:02

Apparently buy 2x $500's if you are confirmed for a visa.

ploppsdman

28-01-2009 19:56:48

Before we all rush to Key bank, I asked for some more details about the card I posted earlier and the only caveat to the card is that if you are NOT a member you can only get them for $500. If you are a member you can take advantage of the $2500 daily limit. Being a member consists of having something like their FREE checking which you can get online in like 5 minutes. The checking requires a minimum opening deposit of $50 and if you close it in 180 days it costs you $25. You can all do the math and figure out what is best for you.

More info on the Key Bank from personal experience. I got a $500 MC, they call it a "Key Possibilities Card" - no problems, 3.95 fee. Needed an ID. Got a receipt that looks exactly like id hope to send off and another pseudo "gift receipt" that has the total value and the PIN for the card. Of course I went right outside and tried to take $ out of the ATM 2 minutes later, no dice. The balance showed up, but it said the withdraw option wasnt available. Not sure how long it took to process through, but by ~2 hours later the withdraw was fine. I took $300 out thinking it would limit me but just as a test I tried to immediately take another $180 -- poof! more money. (by requesting another transaction without getting my card back, not a separate one). $1/transaction leaves $18 on the card for misc purposes or cash back from CVS or something.

I'm not sure if you can buy more than one at a time on the same receipt ($500+500=1000) or if I could have just withdrawn the entire $480 at once (save $1). That's a trial for tomorrow. Anything under the max limit ($500) I'll just load an extra $1 on to begin with to avoid the fact that ATM only spits out in 20's.


Key Bank update time from my prior post like 5 pages back.

1) you can only get $500 per DAY as a non-customer, there is no way to do a 2x500 on one receipt in order to get to a value larger than their $500 limit

2) you can withdraw the entire amount from the ATM (up to 480 as a noncustomer) at once. Since the max is 500, you cant put $501 on it, the request to withdrawl posts as a $1 fee, making it impossible to withdraw $500 -- i tried just to check. would work great for any values under the limit though. $480 withdraw leaves $19 on the card for use in any way you see fit. maybe some of the people who keep asking the same question over and over and over again can use the extra $19 to take a reading comprehension class


I wonder what would happen if you went to other Key Banks; is its 1 per Key Bank or 1 TOTAL. I'll have to see tomorrow or did you get the feeling its 1 total, regardless of how many banks you go to?

supersponger1979

28-01-2009 19:57:27

Anyone have any luck with the AG office in NY? If that doesn't get us anywhere, I guess I can put it on my cc as a very last resort

slambam

28-01-2009 20:14:45

I'm actually starting to like this. Gets the $ faster, and this company seems very good. I cross my fingers and hope there BBB rating and ripoffreport comments hold true!

dubbin87

28-01-2009 20:15:26

[quote7bef9b768b="supersponger1979"]Anyone have any luck with the AG office in NY? If that doesn't get us anywhere, I guess I can put it on my cc as a very last resort[/quote7bef9b768b]It's not like the AG is going to snap thier fingers and make BR pay out instantly.

vijay04964

28-01-2009 20:15:54

ye i have been told only if your gift is $1000 visa you can substitute that for 2 $500.

slambam

28-01-2009 20:28:08

[quote3ffe2104a7="dubbin87"][quote3ffe2104a7="supersponger1979"]Anyone have any luck with the AG office in NY? If that doesn't get us anywhere, I guess I can put it on my cc as a very last resort[/quote3ffe2104a7]It's not like the AG is going to snap thier fingers and make BR pay out instantly.[/quote3ffe2104a7]

Exactly, I'm sure they've been contacted plenty of times, not to mention the BBB, ripoff report.... Nothing seems to bother them.

edgespeeder04

28-01-2009 20:41:08

[quote1b5062fdf8="tylerc"]Damn, so where can we get a $1,000 Visa that can be withdrawn at ATMs?[/quote1b5062fdf8]

1+ on that or any type of visa or gift credit cards that we can do this with, would be great. I use to do with a visa giftcard when i got one for brandarama for 600 over a year ago but not sure if that still works.


Besides the Key bank, I haven't heard of anything else but i would like to know.

ghounds07

28-01-2009 21:39:38

[quotec12c6310fb="tml09"]This is absolute fucking bullshit

"You may not use an old receipt. Your receipt must be dated on the issue date of the certificate or 30 days following the issue date on the certificate.

[bc12c6310fb]There is no late fee on this promotion. Once its over, it's over.[/bc12c6310fb]

[ic12c6310fb]Thank you![/ic12c6310fb]"


This is so damn fucked up. No extension? I have no money to buy a fucking $1000 visa ( yes, college ftl). This is how they want to make there money? Thats not even fair. I'm going to complain until I get my money.[/quotec12c6310fb]

Complaining will do nothing. If you have $0 and a credit card you can still get your $1,000 without spending a dime it is really simple actually if you take a minute to think about it.

LucaBella

28-01-2009 22:55:58

[quote2c3bb721c1="dubbin87"][quote2c3bb721c1="ashilef"][quote2c3bb721c1="dubbin87"][quote2c3bb721c1="desertwilite"][quote2c3bb721c1="slambam"][quote2c3bb721c1="nousername"]4. If I send my 3 certificates (neatly arranged and stapled together with their respective receipts, of course) in the same envelope, do I have to submit 1 copy of ID or 3 copies of ID ?
[/quote2c3bb721c1]

Just 1 copy of the ID, I called and confirmed this today.[/quote2c3bb721c1]

Be careful with that.....I got a different response

"1. You may send in all certificates in one envelope. Staple each certificate with it's required paperwork. One I.D. is only acceptable if you're sending in one certificate. "I hope this helps some of you.[/quote2c3bb721c1]

is it really going to hurt to make a few more copies? I'm sending my certs in one envelope but rather than take a chance each one is getting a ID copy. Come on people stop [b2c3bb721c1]acting like idiots[/b2c3bb721c1]... roll[/quote2c3bb721c1]

I'm sure that wasn't necessary...[/quote2c3bb721c1]20 plus pages of people going round and round asking the same thing 5-6 posts apart, sorry but people are acting like they are 5 years old. Use a bit of common sense here and stop asking people to hold your hand while so you can make a decision.[/quote2c3bb721c1]

+1 Karma

now someone make me some nachos. and loan me... like 4 grand...

kinneylamb

28-01-2009 23:26:05

guys, honestly -- please don't file reports on ripoff-report or anything else like that, against mpell.

you should know better, it's brandarama's "fault" if anything. mpell is doing us a favor, instructed by brandarama.

if you're going to file complaints, do it against brandarama.

mpell can help some of us, with the current terms, so long as we can afford the upfront costs with the certificates.

again, complain about brandarama if you don't agree with the terms.

i'd rather not see 1 year+ shipping lists again. at least this is a step in the right direction. we'll know better from now on to sign up for smaller gifts, instead of larger ones. all these complaints will make mpell let their agreement expire w/ brandarama and cut out of the business altogether, which will hurt us -- all of us.

thank you.

orangejuice

28-01-2009 23:27:55

the 1 thing i don't understand is, brandarama is funding this, so how do we know there is not going to be another 1-year wait..lol. Brandarama CEO has an american express black card, most of those have no credit limits and a 6% APR, why cant he just max that thing out and pay everyone out. then if they are out of cash they can just declare bankruptcy and discharge all the debt

kinneylamb

28-01-2009 23:35:16

[quotef169e925c5="orangejuice"]the 1 thing i don't understand is, brandarama is funding this, so how do we know there is not going to be another 1-year wait..lol. Brandarama CEO has an american express black card, most of those have no credit limits and a 6% APR, why cant he just max that thing out and pay everyone out. then if they are out of cash they can just declare bankruptcy and discharge all the debt[/quotef169e925c5]
they are cutting mpell checks or otherwise transferring them money, which cuts out the gift ordering process, which takes longer according to them. so the wait is subject to mpell's ability to process our gifts with brandarama. brandarama has always been against sending us money, it always had to be the gifts.

ploppsdman

29-01-2009 00:28:53

This is a general call for patience and empathy from the members of this board. We are all in similar situations with this, so if we repeat the same question 100s of times, understand that in all likelihood, we're just nervous and excited and want to settle those emotions in our heads. It's very likely that things are going to get much worse before we have a chance at better, so please, patience and empathy.

oleus

29-01-2009 00:50:39

[quote3a0ad7dad9="kinneylamb"][quote3a0ad7dad9="orangejuice"]the 1 thing i don't understand is, brandarama is funding this, so how do we know there is not going to be another 1-year wait..lol. Brandarama CEO has an american express black card, most of those have no credit limits and a 6% APR, why cant he just max that thing out and pay everyone out. then if they are out of cash they can just declare bankruptcy and discharge all the debt[/quote3a0ad7dad9]
they are cutting mpell checks or otherwise transferring them money, which cuts out the gift ordering process, which takes longer according to them. so the wait is subject to mpell's ability to process our gifts with brandarama. brandarama has always been against sending us money, it always had to be the gifts.[/quote3a0ad7dad9]

this is what i have been curious/suspicious about from the beginning of these mpell certificate mailings. something just doesn't add up.

i realize they are banking on people either throwing away the letter or not doing the offer. still if they are actually going to pay in the timeframe they promise, enough of us are complying with the new rules that YTB/Brandarama will have to be directly paying Mpell and how long is that going to last?

maybe the 30 day window is an optimistic projection for them, i'm thinking we might be working in a 2 week window. i hope i am being paranoid because i will be taking the full 30 days to try and get what i am owed.

ploppsdman

29-01-2009 01:07:13

I will be mailing these individually; whats the least expensive way to get delivery confirmation? Do I need to ship them via priority mail, and if you do that, do you have to use their large priority envelope, or can you just mail in a regular envelope. Im thinking that getting certified mail would be a huge mistake since it's a p.o. box.

kinneylamb

29-01-2009 01:42:09

[quote7b988c0463="oleus"][quote7b988c0463="kinneylamb"][quote7b988c0463="orangejuice"]the 1 thing i don't understand is, brandarama is funding this, so how do we know there is not going to be another 1-year wait..lol. Brandarama CEO has an american express black card, most of those have no credit limits and a 6% APR, why cant he just max that thing out and pay everyone out. then if they are out of cash they can just declare bankruptcy and discharge all the debt[/quote7b988c0463]
they are cutting mpell checks or otherwise transferring them money, which cuts out the gift ordering process, which takes longer according to them. so the wait is subject to mpell's ability to process our gifts with brandarama. brandarama has always been against sending us money, it always had to be the gifts.[/quote7b988c0463]

this is what i have been curious/suspicious about from the beginning of these mpell certificate mailings. something just doesn't add up.

i realize they are banking on people either throwing away the letter or not doing the offer. still if they are actually going to pay in the timeframe they promise, enough of us are complying with the new rules that YTB/Brandarama will have to be directly paying Mpell and how long is that going to last?

maybe the 30 day window is an optimistic projection for them, i'm thinking we might be working in a 2 week window. i hope i am being paranoid because i will be taking the full 30 days to try and get what i am owed.[/quote7b988c0463]

right, the 30 days is to help speed up the gifts for brandarama. i understood mpell as a temporary solution and they wanted to work with a 3rd party (mpell) for as short a time as possible, hence the 30 days. it's unclear how gifts will be handled in the future from brandarama.

there doesn't appear to be a reason to worry, brandarama is prepared to fund whatever comes in (certificates) to mpell as their partnership together has been in the works and is now set in stone. mpell has a very good reputation as a company and has worked with many clients before, so i'd take their word as good.


p.s. i think priority mail is the minimum for use of delivery confirmation, check with your P.O. you may use a regular envelope, also, just leave room for them to put the stickers and such on it. wink

wilcrytay728

29-01-2009 02:51:08

A few post/pages back, someone posted the letter of intent from the other company that was buying/merging with Brandarama. Do you think that when they got in and saw the mess of gifts waiting to be fulfilled made them think twice about the business deal? Is the deal about to go bad if Brandarama does not get their accounting in order.

All of this is exciting, for me at least. I received 8 letters. I am buying visa gift cards from chase and I took out a 401k loan to cover my gifts.

I am going to do more brandarama sites.

ghounds07

29-01-2009 07:05:50

[quotea2953a0d24="kinneylamb"]
right, the 30 days is to help speed up the gifts for brandarama. i understood mpell as a temporary solution and they wanted to work with a 3rd party (mpell) for as short a time as possible, hence the 30 days. it's unclear how gifts will be handled in the future from brandarama.

there doesn't appear to be a reason to worry, brandarama is prepared to fund whatever comes in (certificates) to mpell as their partnership together has been in the works and is now set in stone. mpell has a very good reputation as a company and has worked with many clients before, so i'd take their word as good.


p.s. i think priority mail is the minimum for use of delivery confirmation, check with your P.O. you may use a regular envelope, also, just leave room for them to put the stickers and such on it. wink[/quotea2953a0d24]

Brandarama has stated before that this is how they will be fulfilling all future gifts. This is not a temporary solution.

ghounds07

29-01-2009 07:06:44

[quote1014a12d32="wilcrytay728"]A few post/pages back, someone posted the letter of intent from the other company that was buying/merging with Brandarama. Do you think that when they got in and saw the mess of gifts waiting to be fulfilled made them think twice about the business deal? Is the deal about to go bad if Brandarama does not get their accounting in order.

All of this is exciting, for me at least. I received 8 letters. I am buying visa gift cards from chase and I took out a 401k loan to cover my gifts.

I am going to do more brandarama sites.[/quote1014a12d32]

IMO you are right, which is why brandarama did this, so that they can get their shipping department up to date and look like a more legit company for this merger.

tylerc

29-01-2009 07:14:15

I don't think a loan applies.

ohboyitsryan

29-01-2009 08:19:58

i'm guessing the loan is to front the gifts

FreeOffersNow

29-01-2009 08:21:09

Here's my take

Like the "database error" (if you remember, most of our accounts "disappeared" at one time)...ARG is using the terms MPELL is enforcing to weed out more and more of their accounts payable. With the database error I'm sure they were looking to get an idea of what accounts are still active...and which have been abandoned. With this, they are putting a strict time restriction as well as another hoop to jump through. While this won't likely deter the majority, it will absolutely save them money. Assuming all participants are owed a $1000 GC, consider this

- 50 people no longer live at the address the Mpell offer was mailed to, and will hear about the offer after the 30 days is up (if ever). $50,000 saved.

- 50 more people, for whatever other reasons, will miss the deadline. $50,000 more saved.

- 200 people can't afford to purchase an item for $1000, so they purchase one for all they can afford. Assume here's it's $700. $60,000 saved. (consider also the number of people who are, however illegitimately, owed over ten or twenty thousand...these people are not likely able to "front" that kind of money within 30 days for 8-10 weeks).

That's $160,000 in savings assuming only 300 participants either entirely or partially "default". These are modest numbers. Considering the overall number of accounts we're dealing with...they're probably looking to save several hundred thousand dollars using Mpell. Our only other consideration would be Mpell's fees. So, in the end, is this great for customer service? Absolutely not. But it is great for the balance sheet, and may be a way for ARG to get back on track and continue to offer the best offer/reward ratios we've seen.

chewy

29-01-2009 08:26:01

[quoted7f0c19191="FreeOffersNow"]Here's my take

Like the "database error" (if you remember, most of our accounts "disappeared" at one time)...ARG is using the terms MPELL is enforcing to weed out more and more of their accounts payable. With the database error I'm sure they were looking to get an idea of what accounts are still active...and which have been abandoned. With this, they are putting a strict time restriction as well as another hoop to jump through. While this won't likely deter the majority, it will absolutely save them money. Assuming all participants are owed a $1000 GC, consider this

- 50 people no longer live at the address the Mpell offer was mailed to, and will hear about the offer after the 30 days is up (if ever). $50,000 saved.

- 50 more people, for whatever other reasons, will miss the deadline. $50,000 more saved.

- 200 people can't afford to purchase an item for $1000, so they purchase one for all they can afford. Assume here's it's $700. $60,000 saved. (consider also the number of people who are, however illegitimately, owed over ten or twenty thousand...these people are not likely able to "front" that kind of money within 30 days for 8-10 weeks).

That's $160,000 in savings assuming only 300 participants either entirely or partially "default". These are modest numbers. Considering the overall number of accounts we're dealing with...they've probably looking to save several hundred thousand dollars using Mpell. Our only other consideration would be Mpell's fees. So, in the end, is this great for customer service? Absolutely not.[bd7f0c19191] But it is great for the balance sheet, and may be a way for ARG to get back on track and continue to offer the best offer/reward ratios we've seen[/bd7f0c19191].[/quoted7f0c19191]

exactly, I think the new system kind of sucks fronting the money, but if they pay out in a month or so it isnt too bad for me personally. if this allows them to get gifts shipped im all for it. In fact I am eyeing a few new brandarama sites now. Before this I would probably never have ever done another brandarama site again.

just when you think DIY is dead something happens.

crazy4beatz

29-01-2009 08:48:06

so from yourtopbrands $1000 Visa Gift Card

has anybody actually bought 2x$500?
does it matter if it is on 2 seperate receipts?

im just hope this is safe and they wont take the largest purchase up to $1000 (only 1 $500 card)

mctrask

29-01-2009 08:48:52

[quotedb5c8bb370="bennyboy5768"]Mpell's second response on Ripoffreport.com

[quotedb5c8bb370] The offer is financed by the company who made that offer, not us, and they only finance redemptions that meet the criteria they established. [/quotedb5c8bb370][/quotedb5c8bb370]

Big red flag here. shock

For those that are buying goods rather than purchasing gift cards to get your receipts, you may want to reconsider.

MPell did not buy ARG's debt. They are acting in an administrative capacity only. If Brandarama doesn't pay them, then MPell can't/won't pay us and considering the number of people who have waited well over a year for their gifts from Brandarama, buying goods with the expectation of getting a check in a few months is risky at best.

Brandarama promised an 8-10 week payout with the original gift offers. Now they are promising an 8-10 week payout for for these "rebates" through MPell. The money still has to come from ARG either way and even if they are able to knock out some people who can't front the money for their gifts, I think that once again they have underestimated the creativity of the freebie crowd and will come up short on money to pay people.

The moral of this ramble is Don't front money you can't get back. It's probably best to go with gift cards.

wiebelhaus03

29-01-2009 09:05:20

woohoo! just heard back today and paying for tuition w/ a receipt works

steveyankee

29-01-2009 09:24:40

[quote9ee963d979="FreeOffersNow"]Here's my take

[/quote9ee963d979]

Do your math over again.

It's safe the say the majority of gifts are $500.

Of my 8 sites, none are over $500.

I know a person who has around 20 sites, like one or two are $1,000 sites.

doylnea

29-01-2009 09:44:31

[quote38d03c954f="FreeOffersNow"]Here's my take

[/quote38d03c954f]

That's not quite the way these agreements work.

ARG has a balance due of $1M (for argument's sake). For whatever reason they want it off their books (merger, cash flow, guilt, etc.). They approach MPell and offer a payment at some amount lower than the debt owed, say $750K (again for argument's sake). If MPell agrees on those terms, then they assume all liability for the debt. MPell then sets up a number of conditions that make it difficult for the debtee to fulfill and profits on the difference between what they pay out and what they've been paid.

MPell makes money, and ARG gets the debt off their books (at a lower cost that actual value), simple as that.

RolltheStampede

29-01-2009 09:52:00

yeah but brand makes it seem like Mpell is just the middle man since future gifts will be going through them and they haven't incurred that debt already

dubbin87

29-01-2009 10:05:30

[quote4a30c4849e="FreeOffersNow"]and may be a way for ARG to get back on track and continue to offer the best offer/reward ratios we've seen.[/quote4a30c4849e]

I'd be willing to bet after this mess is cleared up thier terms are going to change dramaticly.

neverendingmoolah

29-01-2009 10:23:39

[quote7ceb113ae2="dubbin87"][quote7ceb113ae2="FreeOffersNow"]and may be a way for ARG to get back on track and continue to offer the best offer/reward ratios we've seen.[/quote7ceb113ae2]

I'd be willing to bet after this mess is cleared up thier terms are going to change dramaticly.[/quote7ceb113ae2]

I agree. Has anyone wondered how YTB/Brandarama were able to offer the best payouts for their offers? I think once the recession kicked in and everybody started doing their sites, they were no longer able to meet their obligations. They were already offering the biggest payouts. If you've noticed they are not offering any more 4 offers $1000 G/C deals. That's what got them in trouble. I am still waiting for my $1000 visa since 10/07. I just dont think they could afford to pay everyone who participated. If you know the payout rates from the publishers, its no way they are able to profit.

mctrask

29-01-2009 10:34:39

[quote0071d942b7="RolltheStampede"]yeah but brand makes it seem like Mpell is just the middle man since future gifts will be going through them and they haven't incurred that debt already[/quote0071d942b7]

Right. And MPell is claiming the same. My guess is that MPell has entered into a contract with Brandarama and is being paid an administrative fee to process the gifts rebates according to Brandarama's instructions. They may also be getting a percentage of any monies saved from people who can't or won't fulfill the terms and forfeit their gifts.

From the response on RipOff Reports, MPell is trying hard to save its reputation from the mess they've found themselves in but their company is going to suffer some damage for agreeing to these "rebate" terms.

According to the NY AG's office yesterday, if what Brandarama is doing is found to be illegal and MPell is profiting as a party to the scheme, they could be held culpable.

Claimed ignorance of what Brandarama is trying to pull here is not an excuse.

edgespeeder04

29-01-2009 10:43:20

out of curiosity, will this prepaid debit visa card work?

https//www.giftcardmall.com/m-74-visa-prepaid-debit-card.aspx

Anyone wanna try it? I believe we should be able to withdraw from that, right?

wiebelhaus03

29-01-2009 11:08:16

i don't know about you, but i don't really want to give my social security number to this company just to get a prepaid visa.....

ghounds07

29-01-2009 12:12:52

[quote4e9fe26a99="mctrask"]
Big red flag here. shock

[b4e9fe26a99]For those that are buying goods rather than purchasing gift cards to get your receipts, you may want to reconsider.[/b4e9fe26a99]

MPell did not buy ARG's debt. They are acting in an administrative capacity only. If Brandarama doesn't pay them, then MPell can't/won't pay us and considering the number of people who have waited well over a year for their gifts from Brandarama, buying goods with the expectation of getting a check in a few months is risky at best.

Brandarama promised an 8-10 week payout with the original gift offers. Now they are promising an 8-10 week payout for for these "rebates" through MPell. The money still has to come from ARG either way and even if they are able to knock out some people who can't front the money for their gifts, I think that once again they have underestimated the creativity of the freebie crowd and will come up short on money to pay people.

The moral of this ramble is Don't front money you can't get back. It's probably best to go with gift cards.[/quote4e9fe26a99]

Why would we want to reconsider? Didn't you read the letter that Mpell sent to all of us? It clearly stated that we could buy a substitute gift if we wanted instead of what was originally intended. Don't know why you would try and make people rethink their decision...

oleus

29-01-2009 12:29:16

[quotec971ce5cfc="ghounds07"][quotec971ce5cfc="mctrask"]
Big red flag here. shock

[bc971ce5cfc]For those that are buying goods rather than purchasing gift cards to get your receipts, you may want to reconsider.[/bc971ce5cfc]

MPell did not buy ARG's debt. They are acting in an administrative capacity only. If Brandarama doesn't pay them, then MPell can't/won't pay us and considering the number of people who have waited well over a year for their gifts from Brandarama, buying goods with the expectation of getting a check in a few months is risky at best.

Brandarama promised an 8-10 week payout with the original gift offers. Now they are promising an 8-10 week payout for for these "rebates" through MPell. The money still has to come from ARG either way and even if they are able to knock out some people who can't front the money for their gifts, I think that once again they have underestimated the creativity of the freebie crowd and will come up short on money to pay people.

The moral of this ramble is Don't front money you can't get back. It's probably best to go with gift cards.[/quotec971ce5cfc]

Why would we want to reconsider? Didn't you read the letter that Mpell sent to all of us? It clearly stated that we could buy a substitute gift if we wanted instead of what was originally intended. Don't know why you would try and make people rethink their decision...[/quotec971ce5cfc]

well i can understand his concern. since Mpell aren't really the ones paying the money it seems like we will still be relying on YTB/Brandarama for the actual money. which makes this 8-10 weeks they mention very suspect.....

the more we're learnign about what's going on the more i wonder if i just made a bad decision to buy a 1K Amex. Mpell could be the most honest company in the world and that still wouldn't guarantee that we get our money in any kind of timely manner.

chewy

29-01-2009 12:30:23

[quote52ed6a3873="oleus"][quote52ed6a3873="ghounds07"][quote52ed6a3873="mctrask"]
Big red flag here. shock

[b52ed6a3873]For those that are buying goods rather than purchasing gift cards to get your receipts, you may want to reconsider.[/b52ed6a3873]

MPell did not buy ARG's debt. They are acting in an administrative capacity only. If Brandarama doesn't pay them, then MPell can't/won't pay us and considering the number of people who have waited well over a year for their gifts from Brandarama, buying goods with the expectation of getting a check in a few months is risky at best.

Brandarama promised an 8-10 week payout with the original gift offers. Now they are promising an 8-10 week payout for for these "rebates" through MPell. The money still has to come from ARG either way and even if they are able to knock out some people who can't front the money for their gifts, I think that once again they have underestimated the creativity of the freebie crowd and will come up short on money to pay people.

The moral of this ramble is Don't front money you can't get back. It's probably best to go with gift cards.[/quote52ed6a3873]

Why would we want to reconsider? Didn't you read the letter that Mpell sent to all of us? It clearly stated that we could buy a substitute gift if we wanted instead of what was originally intended. Don't know why you would try and make people rethink their decision...[/quote52ed6a3873]

well i can understand his concern. since Mpell isn't really the ones paying the money it seems like we will still be relying on YTB/Brandarama for the actual money. which makes this 8-10 weeks they mention very suspect.....

the more we're learnign about what's going on the more i wonder if i just made a bad decision to buy a 1K Amex. Mpell could be the most honest company in the world and that still wouldn't guarantee that we get our money in any kind of timely manner.[/quote52ed6a3873]


thats probably why its good to get everything in as quick as possible...not that im overly worried

ghounds07

29-01-2009 12:34:19

True, but if you really think brandarama would be shady when dealing with a seperate, legit company, I would think twice. Mpell would not risk their reputation (which seems important to them if you look at their responses to the ripoffreport claims) doing business with a company if they did not have complete confidence they would be getting paid in a timely manner.

Tin foil hat removed.

skooter22c

29-01-2009 12:35:54

Sent in my cert, receipt and ID today with delivery confirmation. Now we wait and see. Mpell sells these certs as a way for companies to provide gifts at a lower cost. I would say that Mpell just reports on the certs that are received and does not pass on the receipts to BD so they never know what is actually bought. I will call to verify so I can change my purchase if I need to within the 30 days. The redemption per BD TOS has to do with the logistics of qualifying not the actual gift, since in their TOS they can change the gift at any time.

oleus

29-01-2009 12:36:48

honestly though, if it's Brandarama paying out, even being first in line might not be good enough IMHO. i really really hope i'm wrong because i'm sending in my first of 5 certificates this evening.

ghounds07

29-01-2009 12:39:19

[quote7832c6facd="skooter22c"]Sent in my cert, receipt and ID today with delivery confirmation. Now we wait and see. Mpell sells these certs as a way for companies to provide gifts at a lower cost. [b7832c6facd]I would say that Mpell just reports on the certs that are received and does not pass on the receipts to BD so they never know what is actually bought. I will call to verify so I can change my purchase if I need to within the 30 days. [/b7832c6facd] The redemption per BD TOS has to do with the logistics of qualifying not the actual gift, since in their TOS they can change the gift at any time.[/quote7832c6facd]

You're most likely correct by saying Mpell does not inform BD what we buy, they simply verify that we purchased something that qualifies for THEIR (Mpell) cashback program. But why would you need to call to verify what you bought?

Unless you bought some unordinary item I cannot see why you would need to call them...

RolltheStampede

29-01-2009 12:58:57

Its like when you are standing in line for a ride then they tell everyone the line is somewhere else and you lose your spot in line.

jarjar_arg

29-01-2009 13:17:55

I went to Key Bank

It's a YMMV (your market may vary) thing with regards to the amount and number of gift cards they will issue. I was able to get more than 1 gift card and for more than $500 at the same time. They didn't know what I was talking about when I asked if there was any limit for non-customers ( I am not a customer ).

FreeOffersNow

29-01-2009 13:46:59

[quoted140d29fa0="steveyankee"][quoted140d29fa0="FreeOffersNow"]Here's my take

[/quoted140d29fa0]

Do your math over again.

It's safe the say the majority of gifts are $500.

Of my 8 sites, none are over $500.

I know a person who has around 20 sites, like one or two are $1,000 sites.[/quoted140d29fa0]

The numbers I provided were "for example" only. If you would like to see what the numbers look like under variable circumstances...by all means plug-in different numbers. I have $250, $300, $500, $825, and $1000 sites CTS. $1000 was just the number I happened to choose. Without having more data, I don't think landing on any specific number between $250 and $2500 will make this example any more or less accurate.


[quoted140d29fa0="doylnea"][quoted140d29fa0="FreeOffersNow"]Here's my take

[/quoted140d29fa0]

That's not quite the way these agreements work.

ARG has a balance due of $1M (for argument's sake). For whatever reason they want it off their books (merger, cash flow, guilt, etc.). They approach MPell and offer a payment at some amount lower than the debt owed, say $750K (again for argument's sake). If MPell agrees on those terms, then they assume all liability for the debt. MPell then sets up a number of conditions that make it difficult for the debtee to fulfill and profits on the difference between what they pay out and what they've been paid.

MPell makes money, and ARG gets the debt off their books (at a lower cost that actual value), simple as that.[/quoted140d29fa0]

I don't believe Mpell actually bought the debt. It seems to me that they're too small to raise the capital, and even if they could, it wouldn't make sense without any hard data on "default" rates. I'd assume that Mpell is involved only in an administrative capacity where compensation is both fixed and a function of effective "elimination" of accounts payable. This is as opposed to a typical rebate processing company which might generally be paid a lump-sum at contract start.

skooter22c

29-01-2009 14:03:14

No call to verify wether they talk to BD about what you bought and if the actual gift or gift card is part of the TOS for claiming a gift.

bennyboy5768

29-01-2009 14:06:58

I googled Mpell and this was one of the results

http//bankofgod.homestead.com/index.html

supersponger1979

29-01-2009 14:15:06

Just wanted to make sure I am ok...This is what I have

$1350 Sports Authority card-buy whatever at S.A. or buy 1 item anywhere for $1350 (gift card)

I assume the process is the same with my $825 Nordstrom card, $500 toward Hummer rental, $500 toward Harley rental, and $250 Visa.

I just talked with a MPell rep and she said if it is a Visa than you can buy multiple gifts with the $250.

FreeOffersNow

29-01-2009 14:16:43

[quotee5c8cf0a36="bennyboy5768"]I googled Mpell and this was one of the results

http//bankofgod.homestead.com/index.html[/quotee5c8cf0a36]

ok?

ghounds07

29-01-2009 14:20:08

[quoted30669cf5f="skooter22c"]No call to verify wether they talk to BD about what you bought and if the actual gift or gift card is part of the TOS for claiming a gift.[/quoted30669cf5f]

Why would Mpell send us letters [bd30669cf5f]clearly stating[/bd30669cf5f] that we could buy either of those if it turned out to be false?

I guess I will call tomorrow to verify whether I should send my forms to Mpell or brandarama, because I mean I signed up to the site at brandarama right?

tp24

29-01-2009 14:26:02

[quote6c2b317aea="bennyboy5768"]I googled Mpell and this was one of the results

http//bankofgod.homestead.com/index.html[/quote6c2b317aea]

It's similar to this UFO movement going on. I've been following it, no hard evidence yet, but pretty interesting.

I've just e-mailed them and asked for $10,000, will let you know the result lol

MamaToldMeDIY

29-01-2009 15:25:18

I sent mine the 26th, they are confirmed delivered today

prayer time

tylerc

29-01-2009 15:28:16

Do we need to send a copy of our ID for EACH certificate, or one ID for all certificates?

slambam

29-01-2009 16:08:07

[quote92e0870c6b="tylerc"]Do we need to send a copy of our ID for EACH certificate, or one ID for all certificates?[/quote92e0870c6b]

I asked and they said 1 for them all is OK.

bennyboy5768

29-01-2009 16:19:16

I spoke with Mpell and they said that if you buy one item thats under the amount of your certificate and tax puts you over the amount they will reimburse you up to your certificate value. For example

Camera $950
Tax$80
Total$1030
Certificate value$1000
=A $30 "out-of-pocket-expense" camera.

They go by grand total if you buy one item on the receipt. If you buy two or more items they go by the highest value item on the receipt.

mistertomlinson

29-01-2009 16:21:58

If anyone's worried, why not just send more? I placed, invoices, email confirmations, emails received from MPell, certificates and copies of my ID for EACH site in it's OWN envelope, each labeled with my certificate#, name and amount being redeemed and put put all 4 for of those envelopes in a large bubble envelope and shipped it priority. )

mistertomlinson

29-01-2009 16:24:04

[quote91b2a5af96="bennyboy5768"]I spoke with Mpell and they said that if you buy one item thats under the amount of your certificate and tax puts you over the amount they will reimburse you up to your certificate value. For example

Camera $950
Tax$30
Total$1030
Certificate value$1000
=A $30 "out-of-pocket-expense" camera.

They go by grand total if you buy one item on the receipt. If you buy two or more items they go by the highest value item on the receipt.[/quote91b2a5af96]

Your math definitely sucks (

michae229

29-01-2009 16:26:36

[quote8e05e425f9="mistertomlinson"][quote8e05e425f9="bennyboy5768"]I spoke with Mpell and they said that if you buy one item thats under the amount of your certificate and tax puts you over the amount they will reimburse you up to your certificate value. For example

Camera $950
Tax$30
Total$1030
Certificate value$1000
=A $30 "out-of-pocket-expense" camera.

They go by grand total if you buy one item on the receipt. If you buy two or more items they go by the highest value item on the receipt.[/quote8e05e425f9]

Your math definitely sucks ([/quote8e05e425f9]

bennyboy5768+math= FAIL

lol

steveyankee

29-01-2009 16:32:47

[quoteeb27ce8f84="bennyboy5768"]I spoke with Mpell and they said that if you buy one item thats under the amount of your certificate and tax puts you over the amount they will reimburse you up to your certificate value. For example

Camera $950
Tax$30
Total$1030
Certificate value$1000
=A $30 "out-of-pocket-expense" camera.

They go by grand total if you buy one item on the receipt. If you buy two or more items they go by the highest value item on the receipt.[/quoteeb27ce8f84]

That's awesome, thanks for the info.

But yeah, wtf math lololol

ashilef

29-01-2009 16:45:52

[quoted183ef4ed5="bennyboy5768"]I spoke with Mpell and they said that if you buy one item thats under the amount of your certificate and tax puts you over the amount they will reimburse you up to your certificate value. For example

Camera $950
Tax$30
Total$1030
Certificate value$1000
=A $30 "out-of-pocket-expense" camera.

They go by grand total if you buy one item on the receipt. If you buy two or more items they go by the highest value item on the receipt.[/quoted183ef4ed5]

Ok, so say they owe me an even 1200 hundred. But I can only go out and buy 1 thing for say 900, and then the total on my receipt with taxes comes up to 979.20 or some random number. Would they reimburse me the grand total since it's under 1200?

wiebelhaus03

29-01-2009 16:53:18

correct

ashilef

29-01-2009 17:03:10

[quote2e6a359cf1="wiebelhaus03"]correct[/quote2e6a359cf1]

Thanks!

kinneylamb

29-01-2009 17:22:28

[quotea1a5411dd4="mctrask"][quotea1a5411dd4="bennyboy5768"]Mpell's second response on Ripoffreport.com

[quotea1a5411dd4] The offer is financed by the company who made that offer, not us, and they only finance redemptions that meet the criteria they established. [/quotea1a5411dd4][/quotea1a5411dd4]

Big red flag here. shock

For those that are buying goods rather than purchasing gift cards to get your receipts, you may want to reconsider.

MPell did not buy ARG's debt. They are acting in an administrative capacity only. If Brandarama doesn't pay them, then MPell can't/won't pay us and considering the number of people who have waited well over a year for their gifts from Brandarama, buying goods with the expectation of getting a check in a few months is risky at best.

Brandarama promised an 8-10 week payout with the original gift offers. Now they are promising an 8-10 week payout for for these "rebates" through MPell. The money still has to come from ARG either way and even if they are able to knock out some people who can't front the money for their gifts, I think that once again they have underestimated the creativity of the freebie crowd and will come up short on money to pay people.

The moral of this ramble is Don't front money you can't get back. It's probably best to go with gift cards.[/quotea1a5411dd4]

i dont agree with the cynicism on this board. not just yours.

brandarama is using a third party (mpell) to pay off their shipping list instead of sending the gifts. they have the cash ready to go, they must for the written contract between them to work. mpell itself is a reputable company. brandarama has not cut us checks b/c they have been adamant about not sending people a check. and yes also this deal saves them money on certificates that are not redeemed on-time / completely.

heather77

29-01-2009 18:02:43

I have now received all 9 of my letters, total of $5,825. I'm both excited and frustrated. I guess I'll get 2 $1000 amex gcs, buy 2 $500 visas with each one, buy 2 home depot $500 gcs with the visas, and then buy something for $825 with the last 2 visas. phew.

janarae

29-01-2009 18:32:24

[quotea0b172b11e="wiebelhaus03"]i don't know about you, but i don't really want to give my social security number to this company just to get a prepaid visa.....[/quotea0b172b11e]
Why do you have to give them your soc? If it is on your driver's license (it's optional to have it on there, I don't have my soc on mine) you can just white it out. They never asked for that info to my knowledge.

bruman

29-01-2009 18:34:22

[quote3abe3d3e13="janarae"][quote3abe3d3e13="wiebelhaus03"]i don't know about you, but i don't really want to give my social security number to this company just to get a prepaid visa.....[/quote3abe3d3e13]
Why do you have to give them your soc? If it is on your driver's license (it's optional to have it on there, I don't have my soc on mine) you can just white it out. They never asked for that info to my knowledge.[/quote3abe3d3e13]

He was talking about the VISA gift card site, not mpell.

wiebelhaus03

29-01-2009 19:23:55

ya bruman is correct, sorry i was too lazy to quote the post...quick reply is so much easier

vijay04964

29-01-2009 19:24:11

Alright for the people who have sent in their certs. Is it fine to just use a regular white envelope (9 1/2 by 4 1/8), or do you recommend something else?

wiebelhaus03

29-01-2009 19:26:57

its fine, but personally i would recommend priority w/ delivery confirmation so you can't be screwed by the company when they say "we never received your forms"

bennyboy5768

29-01-2009 19:39:38

Sorry, I pressed a 3 instead of an 8. You get the point none-the-less.

Revised

[quote0e2e074357]I spoke with Mpell and they said that if you buy one item thats under the amount of your certificate and tax puts you over the amount they will reimburse you up to your certificate value. For example

Camera $950
Tax$80
Total$1030
Certificate value$1000
=A $30 "out-of-pocket-expense" camera.

They go by grand total if you buy one item on the receipt. If you buy two or more items they go by the highest value item on the receipt.[/quote0e2e074357]

ashilef

29-01-2009 19:42:57

I'm thinking about if I should just send them off with a stamp, or make the extra trip to the post office for delivery confirmation.

LucaBella

29-01-2009 19:50:34

if anyone bought a wachovia giftcard, what is the initial password they tell you to use when you try and register it online? it's some numerical code and i lost my damn envelope....

it's like the numbers which spell out "mygift" or something....

help me out!

bennyboy5768

29-01-2009 19:57:36

If you've got a Paypal account, login and click on Auction Tools. Then hover your mouse on the asian guys face and click on "shipping center" under the Sell With Ease sub-menu. Make sure your popup blocker is disabled and click on the "PayPal Multi-Order Shipping" link. You'll be presented with a window that lets you buy and print postage without the trip to the post office. Delivery Confirmation is like 18 cents with First Class Mail Parcel. I'm not sure if everyone has this feature available because I have a Premier account (if that even means anything) but it saves a trip to the post office.

doylnea

29-01-2009 20:11:41

[quote28cd8ca2f9="FreeOffersNow"][quote28cd8ca2f9="doylnea"][quote28cd8ca2f9="FreeOffersNow"]Here's my take

[/quote28cd8ca2f9]

That's not quite the way these agreements work.

ARG has a balance due of $1M (for argument's sake). For whatever reason they want it off their books (merger, cash flow, guilt, etc.). They approach MPell and offer a payment at some amount lower than the debt owed, say $750K (again for argument's sake). If MPell agrees on those terms, then they assume all liability for the debt. MPell then sets up a number of conditions that make it difficult for the debtee to fulfill and profits on the difference between what they pay out and what they've been paid.

MPell makes money, and ARG gets the debt off their books (at a lower cost that actual value), simple as that.[/quote28cd8ca2f9]

I don't believe Mpell actually bought the debt. It seems to me that they're too small to raise the capital, and even if they could, it wouldn't make sense without any hard data on "default" rates. I'd assume that Mpell is involved only in an administrative capacity where compensation is both fixed and a function of effective "elimination" of accounts payable. This is as opposed to a typical rebate processing company which might generally be paid a lump-sum at contract start.[/quote28cd8ca2f9]

You're not reading what I wrote. This is exactly like a rebate situation. MPell did not buy the debt; they assumed liability for it after being paid some percentage of the total debt. MPell knows what the default/breakage rates are, and has set up conditions to ensure that the breakage happens.

doylnea

29-01-2009 20:13:07

[quoted5641b3641="bennyboy5768"]If you've got a Paypal account, login and click on Auction Tools. Then hover your mouse on the asian guys face and click on "shipping center" under the Sell With Ease sub-menu. Make sure your popup blocker is disabled and click on the "PayPal Multi-Order Shipping" link. You'll be presented with a window that lets you buy and print postage without the trip to the post office. Delivery Confirmation is like 18 cents with First Class Mail Parcel. I'm not sure if everyone has this feature available because I have a Premier account (if that even means anything) but it saves a trip to the post office.[/quoted5641b3641]

Here's the direct link to that page https//www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now

You'll have to login to your account to use it.

favored

29-01-2009 20:31:01

[quotec8e5c7be69="LucaBella"]if anyone bought a wachovia giftcard, what is the initial password they tell you to use when you try and register it online? it's some numerical code and i lost my damn envelope....

it's like the numbers which spell out "mygift" or something....

help me out![/quotec8e5c7be69]

Mine was 12345 then it immediately went to a page asking me to reset my password. I don't know if yours is different b/c mine was a card I got from I-Deal.

edgespeeder04

29-01-2009 20:50:14

Noone has answered yet, which visa cards can you cash out at an atm and where is the best place to get them online?

ploppsdman

29-01-2009 23:11:18

The only place that we know for a fact (at least, I know for fact) where you can get any gift cards with ATM ability is Key Bank mastercard. And you need to go to a branch.

The receipt reads "key possiblities card." Hopefully that doesn't confuse anyone, since its just a mastercard gift card. I'll find out in 8-300 weeks.

ploppsdman

29-01-2009 23:21:09

I'm thinking about if I should just send them off with a stamp, or make the extra trip to the post office for delivery confirmation.

The extra 10-20 dollars in shipping will be well worth it when you at least have peace of mind knowing they received it. So when they are ignoring your certificates, at least you know they are there for them to ignore.

ploppsdman

29-01-2009 23:21:50

Can someone tell me how to quote correctly? Im tired of not seeing the appropriate quote boxes.

mistertomlinson

30-01-2009 00:02:29

[quotead542e17e7="ploppsdman"]Can someone tell me how to quote correctly? Im tired of not seeing the appropriate quote boxes.[/quotead542e17e7]

Hit the quote button?

oleus

30-01-2009 00:30:30

FYI- both kim (via email) and whoever answered the ytb phone today both claimed that mpell is 100% responsible for both the delivery and funding of these certificate reinbursements.

At first this contradiction to what mpell was saying was troubling to me, then I remembered ytb customer service probably had no idea this was even about to happen

Anyone else here agree that mpell might be joining us all soon inthe long and delayed line of people waiting for money from them?

FreebieExpert

30-01-2009 00:38:05

So that does mean that ARG sold its debt for 70% or some other percentage? that would be better ... I think. ??

favored

30-01-2009 01:37:22

[quoteef07815127="doylnea"][quoteef07815127="FreeOffersNow"][quoteef07815127="doylnea"][quoteef07815127="FreeOffersNow"]Here's my take

[/quoteef07815127]

That's not quite the way these agreements work.

ARG has a balance due of $1M (for argument's sake). For whatever reason they want it off their books (merger, cash flow, guilt, etc.). They approach MPell and offer a payment at some amount lower than the debt owed, say $750K (again for argument's sake). If MPell agrees on those terms, then they assume all liability for the debt. MPell then sets up a number of conditions that make it difficult for the debtee to fulfill and profits on the difference between what they pay out and what they've been paid.

MPell makes money, and ARG gets the debt off their books (at a lower cost that actual value), simple as that.[/quoteef07815127]

I don't believe Mpell actually bought the debt. It seems to me that they're too small to raise the capital, and even if they could, it wouldn't make sense without any hard data on "default" rates. I'd assume that Mpell is involved only in an administrative capacity where compensation is both fixed and a function of effective "elimination" of accounts payable. This is as opposed to a typical rebate processing company which might generally be paid a lump-sum at contract start.[/quoteef07815127]

You're not reading what I wrote. This is exactly like a rebate situation. MPell did not buy the debt; they assumed liability for it after being paid some percentage of the total debt. MPell knows what the default/breakage rates are, and has set up conditions to ensure that the breakage happens.[/quoteef07815127]

Absolutely! Here's directly from Mpell's website ("You" would refer to Brandarama) http//www.mpellinc.com/how.html

"You add the promotion to your marketing materials
You purchase certificates from Mpell
You (or we) give the certificates to eligible customers
The customer mails the certificates to Mpell
Mpell sends the customer their free gift
Mpell supports your customers through our 800# and email service center"

Mpell has already been paid 50-80% of the face value of the certificates by Brandarama. Mpell is able to accept this lower amount because they end up profiting in the end because they're aware that a lot of people won't submit these certificates to them for whatever reason (restrictive 30-day timeframe, limited cash due to economy, won't open letter, whatever). Mpell's website also states that the customer (Brandarama) sets the certificate redemption terms, and the more restrictive these terms are, the less the customer (Brandarama) has to pay per certificate - because being restrictive would lessen the chance of us complying. See it here http//www.coolcertificates.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=7

This monkey is completely on Mpell's back now; I'm sure they were paid before issuing the certificates.

EDIT I'm also sure that the mess Brandarama has created and the fact that it looks like many of us are going to comply by the influx of calls/emails is at least part of the reason that Mpell said "In hindsight, our mistake was accepting this type of business" in their ripoffreport response.

edgespeeder04

30-01-2009 06:08:46

Think they'll care or be able ot check if you buy something and return it, I just bought a tv and it doesnt fit on my stand but i spent more than $500 so i wanted to use that before i return the tv and get something else and hey maybe use that receipt too.

Its not rally a way to beat the system, more just about how they didnt mention anything like that so i guesss it can be done. I doubt they can really check the receipt to see whether you owned the item listed or whether you returned it or not

beerman

30-01-2009 06:14:09

[quote29055ace1f="beerman"]my 9 certs are complete and being sent tomorrow morning[/quote29055ace1f]

They got my forms yesterday morning, the wait begins.....

dubbin87

30-01-2009 06:28:19

[quote5759a38e29="favored"]

EDIT I'm also sure that the mess Brandarama has created and the fact that it looks like many of us are going to comply by the influx of calls/emails is at least part of the reason that Mpell said "In hindsight, our mistake was accepting this type of business" in their ripoffreport response.[/quote5759a38e29]

I went and read the ripoff report and yeah looking at Mpell's reply, it almost looks like they didn't really bother checking out BR's reputation. Sucks for them since they seem to be an upstanding company and now they are tied in with BR. Hopefully they can pull this whole thing out and come out smelling like roses instead of the compost. lol

TravMan162

30-01-2009 07:03:28

they're going to do everything in their power to come out on top and make everyone happy. In fact after speaking with the rep for over half an hour, I would not be surprised if MPell was willing to take a hit on this just to uphold their reputation

favored

30-01-2009 07:21:47

[quote3fa81b96f0="dubbin87"][quote3fa81b96f0="favored"]

EDIT I'm also sure that the mess Brandarama has created and the fact that it looks like many of us are going to comply by the influx of calls/emails is at least part of the reason that Mpell said "In hindsight, our mistake was accepting this type of business" in their ripoffreport response.[/quote3fa81b96f0]

I went and read the ripoff report and yeah looking at Mpell's reply, it almost looks like they didn't really bother checking out BR's reputation. Sucks for them since they seem to be an upstanding company and now they are tied in with BR. Hopefully they can pull this whole thing out and come out smelling like roses instead of the compost. lol[/quote3fa81b96f0]

lol, I agree. I feel bad for Mpell because it looks like they kinda got caught up in a bad situation; but I'm glad Brandarama "sold us out" to them because, unlike Brandarama, Mpell actually cares about maintaining their reputation.

FreeOffersNow

30-01-2009 08:27:31

[quote2292dacdf7="doylnea"]You're not reading what I wrote. This is exactly like a rebate situation. MPell did not buy the debt; they assumed liability for it after being paid some percentage of the total debt. MPell knows what the default/breakage rates are, and has set up conditions to ensure that the breakage happens.[/quote2292dacdf7]

That makes better sense now than it did when I missed a sentence earlier...probably because I was at work just speed-reading through it. But the conditions are "set up" by Brandarama...aren't they? Though one would think that they are suggested by Mpell.

Eeyore

30-01-2009 09:12:55

[quoted88531b07b="oleus"]Anyone else here agree that mpell might be joining us all soon inthe long and delayed line of people waiting for money from them?[/quoted88531b07b]
Mpell has already been paid.

oleus

30-01-2009 09:20:47

[quote4536fcfbb6="skinnyhoops"]I wanted to remind the people that are ordering Amex gift cards that you'll need to register your gift card before you can purchase anything online. It slipped my mind today. Just call the number on the back of the card or they said you can do online too.

Registering basically adds your name, address, and phone number so it will process like a normal credit card.[/quote4536fcfbb6]

my Amex GC didn't require any of this, i don't even see the "register your giftcard" option anywhere on their site. checked the balance online and it appears ready to go. guess i'll see when i try it for the first time.

supersponger1979

30-01-2009 09:32:00

Just bought the Sony S550 Blu Ray for $293 w/ free shipping on Amazon. $43 cost to me after reimbursement...not bad. I am using my $250 Visa prize

wiebelhaus03

30-01-2009 10:19:48

anybody try buying from giftcards.com? I keep getting a CVS error saying my billing address doesn't match, even though i've triple checked now

RyanG

30-01-2009 10:48:42

anyone able to buy more than 1 AMEX card off www.americanexpress.com? it keeps canceling my previous order when i make another lol

imapepper

30-01-2009 11:55:43

[quote94e2636855="wiebelhaus03"]anybody try buying from giftcards.com? I keep getting a CVS error saying my billing address doesn't match, even though i've triple checked now[/quote94e2636855]

Havent tried ordering yet...but Im looking to purchase an ATM Visa gift card from there....just trying to triple check im ordering the correct type of card.

kwoodyk34k

30-01-2009 12:11:56

Do you HAVE to order gift cards with a CREDIT card?
I tried ordering a $2,000 Amex from the website and received an e-mail an hour later saying it was canceled and to check my CREDIT CARD information.

I used a debit card with $5,500 linked to it.

I also know I can't buy from giftcards.com because they require a credit card, not debit card.

Do I have to go run out and get a Credit Card??

(and the worst part is, even though my order was canceled I still have a pending charge so I can't use that money to buy another for 3-5 days. Grrr)

wiebelhaus03

30-01-2009 12:26:26

o ok that makes sense i was using a debit card as well

zr2152

30-01-2009 12:27:59

[quote5faa6b790f="kwoodyk34k"]Do you HAVE to order gift cards with a CREDIT card?
I tried ordering a $2,000 Amex from the website and received an e-mail an hour later saying it was canceled and to check my CREDIT CARD information.

I used a debit card with $5,500 linked to it.

I also know I can't buy from giftcards.com because they require a credit card, not debit card.

Do I have to go run out and get a Credit Card??

(and the worst part is, even though my order was canceled I still have a pending charge so I can't use that money to buy another for 3-5 days. Grrr)[/quote5faa6b790f]


You can't just go out and get a credit card, you have to apply for one and there is waiting period to see if you even are accepted (depending on your credit). Also, remember that if you do buy a gift card with a credit card it will be considered a cash advance and have a high interest rate.

bruman

30-01-2009 12:28:33

Debit cards have daily limits on them. Mine was $1,500. I had to call my bank and they temporarily increased the limit to $3,500 so I could buy the $3,000 AMEX Card from the website. If I had to guess you are probably in the same situation.

Also, I could be wrong, but I don't think online retailers can tell if its a debit card or credit card. They are both identical on the surface of things. And besides, you can use debit as credit. I do it all the times in stores. Just have to sign a paper instead of input PIN. So it doesn't matter... you can still definitely buy from giftcards.com and the amex website with your debit card.

RyanG

30-01-2009 12:33:51

[quote6d1ac5e289="zr2152"][quote6d1ac5e289="kwoodyk34k"]Do you HAVE to order gift cards with a CREDIT card?
I tried ordering a $2,000 Amex from the website and received an e-mail an hour later saying it was canceled and to check my CREDIT CARD information.

I used a debit card with $5,500 linked to it.

I also know I can't buy from giftcards.com because they require a credit card, not debit card.

Do I have to go run out and get a Credit Card??

(and the worst part is, even though my order was canceled I still have a pending charge so I can't use that money to buy another for 3-5 days. Grrr)[/quote6d1ac5e289]


You can't just go out and get a credit card, you have to apply for one and there is waiting period to see if you even are accepted (depending on your credit). Also, remember that if you do buy a gift card with a credit card it will be considered a cash advance and have a high interest rate.[/quote6d1ac5e289]

I don't know if this is correct? My cash advance is only $1000 but I ordered and was processed for $2000 in gift cards.

bruman

30-01-2009 12:36:57

[quoteb162fd1025="RyanG"][quoteb162fd1025="zr2152"][quoteb162fd1025="kwoodyk34k"]Do you HAVE to order gift cards with a CREDIT card?
I tried ordering a $2,000 Amex from the website and received an e-mail an hour later saying it was canceled and to check my CREDIT CARD information.

I used a debit card with $5,500 linked to it.

I also know I can't buy from giftcards.com because they require a credit card, not debit card.

Do I have to go run out and get a Credit Card??

(and the worst part is, even though my order was canceled I still have a pending charge so I can't use that money to buy another for 3-5 days. Grrr)[/quoteb162fd1025]


You can't just go out and get a credit card, you have to apply for one and there is waiting period to see if you even are accepted (depending on your credit). Also, remember that if you do buy a gift card with a credit card it will be considered a cash advance and have a high interest rate.[/quoteb162fd1025]

I don't know if this is correct? My cash advance is only $1000 but I ordered and was processed for $2000 in gift cards.[/quoteb162fd1025]

I bought a $500 VISA GC at my local bank and was charged cash advance (
Where did you buy yours at?

RyanG

30-01-2009 12:39:28

ordered through websites.

zr2152

30-01-2009 12:43:10

[quote61bf0116aa="RyanG"]ordered through websites.[/quote61bf0116aa]

You should probably check because it does seem like it IS a cash advance (at least it should be).

tp24

30-01-2009 12:45:55

Didn't they just send these out a week ago? How can mpell be responding to ripoffreport already?

wiebelhaus03

30-01-2009 12:46:50

I called my bank and I have no daily spending limit. When ordering from giftcards.com it said there was an AVS mismatch and told me to check my billing address. I triple checked, then called my bank and they assured me my billing address was correct. I then called giftcards.com support which was absolutely no help. The lady just said to double check that everything was correct.....

so after all that I'm thinking either my debit card specifically doesn't work or all debit cards don't work

RyanG

30-01-2009 12:48:52

[quote5fed612d22="zr2152"][quote5fed612d22="RyanG"]ordered through websites.[/quote5fed612d22]

You should probably check because it does seem like it IS a cash advance (at least it should be).[/quote5fed612d22]

I'd agree, but don't know if it would be different online as opposed to in a bank.

kwoodyk34k

30-01-2009 12:57:05

[quote66d700570f="bruman"]Debit cards have daily limits on them. Mine was $1,500. I had to call my bank and they temporarily increased the limit to $3,500 so I could buy the $3,000 AMEX Card from the website. If I had to guess you are probably in the same situation.

Also, I could be wrong, but I don't think online retailers can tell if its a debit card or credit card. They are both identical on the surface of things. And besides, you can use debit as credit. I do it all the times in stores. Just have to sign a paper instead of input PIN. So it doesn't matter... you can still definitely buy from giftcards.com and the amex website with your debit card.[/quote66d700570f]

My daily limit is $3,000 so that's not it.
Do you think it matters that it's a PayPal Debit Card?
I use it for everything else so I don't see why it would.

As for giftcards.com, it doesn't work because it makes me put my bank name number on the back of your credit card. Well as stated earlier, I use a PayPal debit card and even on my Harris Debit Card it has no such number.

zr2152

30-01-2009 13:13:14

[quote77a5add229="tp24"]Didn't they just send these out a week ago? How can mpell be responding to ripoffreport already?[/quote77a5add229]

I think that was for another promotion, nothing to do with Brandarama.

Zags1199

30-01-2009 13:48:32

Kim rules!

imapepper

30-01-2009 13:50:45

Damn Kim sure works hard for her money!

bruman

30-01-2009 13:51:26

resovoir

bayarea05

30-01-2009 13:58:59

does a warranty with an item apply to the price also?

dubbin87

30-01-2009 13:59:34

I wonder if they are going to do a quick ship on the few Oct visa's that never got a certificate?

wiebelhaus03

30-01-2009 13:59:50

ask them not us

ploppsdman

30-01-2009 14:01:18

I'm glad for you, zags ... enjoy.

imapepper

30-01-2009 14:07:15

[quoteef443befa9="bayarea05"]does a warranty with an item apply to the price also?[/quoteef443befa9]

I highly doubt it....a warranty is usually rung up as a separate item.

bruman

30-01-2009 14:11:29

BTW, I received my $3,000 AMEX card today. Didn't really come with a proper receipt (none that even had my name on it). I had to call them and request it. They said they couldn't e-mail one, had to fax it or mail it. I sent in a fax request.

oleus

30-01-2009 14:24:21

[quote7b13d20488="bruman"]BTW, I received my $3,000 AMEX card today. Didn't really come with a proper receipt (none that even had my name on it). I had to call them and request it. They said they couldn't e-mail one, had to fax it or mail it. I sent in a fax request.[/quote7b13d20488]

is it really that big of a deal that the receipt doesn't have our names on it? most retail receipts won't...

as for the Amex i made a copy of the statement that came with the card and both the order confirmation and shipment emails. that should be plenty, i would think.

FreebieExpert

30-01-2009 15:16:52

Not all of my receipts had names on it, didnt see that on the requirements so they better not give us shit about it..

steveyankee

30-01-2009 15:31:27

They won't. People are just too paranoid.

leehutchens

30-01-2009 15:36:12

[quote5dd12b362d="RyanG"]anyone able to buy more than 1 AMEX card off www.americanexpress.com? it keeps canceling my previous order when i make another lol[/quote5dd12b362d]

You can't make a second purchase from them until 24 hours later

RyanG

30-01-2009 15:42:21

[quoteb680514a52="leehutchens"][quoteb680514a52="RyanG"]anyone able to buy more than 1 AMEX card off www.americanexpress.com? it keeps canceling my previous order when i make another lol[/quoteb680514a52]

You can't make a second purchase from them until 24 hours later[/quoteb680514a52]

Gotcha, thanks. Gift card market is on lock down!

oleus

30-01-2009 15:44:11

so do the visa gc's on gifcards.com that have "atm" in their title actually cards we can make atm withdrawals with? i thought the consensus was these were impossible to find online....

favored

30-01-2009 15:57:41

[quote0afc98cfb8="zr2152"][quote0afc98cfb8="tp24"]Didn't they just send these out a week ago? How can mpell be responding to ripoffreport already?[/quote0afc98cfb8]

I think that was for another promotion, nothing to do with Brandarama.[/quote0afc98cfb8]

Of course it was for this current situation. A week in cyberspace is like dog years. Read the ripoffreport for yourself. Think.

Zags1199

30-01-2009 16:05:59

[quoteaf6c17ee7b="ploppsdman"]I'm glad for you, zags ... enjoy.[/quoteaf6c17ee7b]

Thanks man, I hope everything works out for you, too.

bayarea05

30-01-2009 16:26:02

[quote844037f6f8="favored"][quote844037f6f8="zr2152"][quote844037f6f8="tp24"]Didn't they just send these out a week ago? How can mpell be responding to ripoffreport already?[/quote844037f6f8]

I think that was for another promotion, nothing to do with Brandarama.[/quote844037f6f8]

Of course it was for this current situation. A week in cyberspace is like dog years. Read the ripoffreport for yourself. Think.[/quote844037f6f8]

They havent sent out any refunds yet. right?

neverendingmoolah

30-01-2009 16:29:45

[quote465404c619="oleus"]FYI- both kim (via email) and whoever answered the ytb phone today both claimed that mpell is 100% responsible for both the delivery and funding of these certificate reinbursements.

At first this contradiction to what mpell was saying was troubling to me, then I remembered ytb customer service probably had no idea this was even about to happen

Anyone else here agree that mpell might be joining us all soon inthe long and delayed line of people waiting for money from them?[/quote465404c619]

Not sure what to think, but your analysis seems possible. Especially since it seems that I was sent on the run-around a few days ago when I asked if I could use my debit card/bank statement as a receipt instead of waiting for the actual item to ship and have a hard copy of the receipt. When asking this question I first spoke to Mpell, who told me that they did not set the policies and that I needed to speak to someone who was in charge of setting up the policies. It turns out they gave me the number to ARG. However, when I called ARG, they told me that they did not set the polices for fulfillment and that Mpell was the one I needed to speak with. I decided not to go that route and just buy visa gift cards instead. Just to be on the safe side. I also was in no mood to go on a wild goose chase. Touche!!

neverendingmoolah

30-01-2009 16:37:12

[quote9b46b35849="kwoodyk34k"]Do you HAVE to order gift cards with a CREDIT card?
I tried ordering a $2,000 Amex from the website and received an e-mail an hour later saying it was canceled and to check my CREDIT CARD information.

I used a debit card with $5,500 linked to it.

I also know I can't buy from giftcards.com because they require a credit card, not debit card.

Do I have to go run out and get a Credit Card??

(and the worst part is, even though my order was canceled I still have a pending charge so I can't use that money to buy another for 3-5 days. Grrr)[/quote9b46b35849]

Have you checked the local banks in your area. I brought all four of my visa gift cards from my bank. I just walked in and the teller made the gift cards. Each gift card has a $3.95 charge. I had to buy two $500 visas for my $1000 certificate. In total I spent $20 in fees and walked away with the gift cards in hand. I felt that was a lot better than paying $4.9 online per gift card and having them ship out in 2 - 3 days. Try your local banks!!

neverendingmoolah

30-01-2009 16:38:07

[quote1d020e204f="neverendingmoolah"][quote1d020e204f="kwoodyk34k"]Do you HAVE to order gift cards with a CREDIT card?
I tried ordering a $2,000 Amex from the website and received an e-mail an hour later saying it was canceled and to check my CREDIT CARD information.

I used a debit card with $5,500 linked to it.

I also know I can't buy from giftcards.com because they require a credit card, not debit card.

Do I have to go run out and get a Credit Card??

(and the worst part is, even though my order was canceled I still have a pending charge so I can't use that money to buy another for 3-5 days. Grrr)[/quote1d020e204f]

Have you checked the local banks in your area. I brought all four of my visa gift cards from my bank. I just walked in and the teller made the gift cards. Each gift card has a $3.95 charge. I had to buy two $500 visas for my $1000 certificate. In total I spent $20 in fees and walked away with the gift cards in hand. I felt that was a lot better than paying $4.9 online per gift card and having them ship out in 2 - 3 days. Try your local banks!![/quote1d020e204f]

Just so you will know I use Suntrust bank.

livingloud28

30-01-2009 16:41:17

What did you get Zags ?

kwoodyk34k

30-01-2009 17:54:24

[quote20f75cc907="neverendingmoolah"][quote20f75cc907="kwoodyk34k"]Do you HAVE to order gift cards with a CREDIT card?
I tried ordering a $2,000 Amex from the website and received an e-mail an hour later saying it was canceled and to check my CREDIT CARD information.

I used a debit card with $5,500 linked to it.

I also know I can't buy from giftcards.com because they require a credit card, not debit card.

Do I have to go run out and get a Credit Card??

(and the worst part is, even though my order was canceled I still have a pending charge so I can't use that money to buy another for 3-5 days. Grrr)[/quote20f75cc907]

Have you checked the local banks in your area. I brought all four of my visa gift cards from my bank. I just walked in and the teller made the gift cards. Each gift card has a $3.95 charge. I had to buy two $500 visas for my $1000 certificate. In total I spent $20 in fees and walked away with the gift cards in hand. I felt that was a lot better than paying $4.9 online per gift card and having them ship out in 2 - 3 days. Try your local banks!![/quote20f75cc907]

Yes, I have checked local banks. Nowhere goes above $500.
My $2,000 is for a specific laptop so I would need a $2,000 AmEx or I'm pretty much screwed.

bayarea05

30-01-2009 18:35:09

Is tax reimbursed too? Sorry, too lazy to go back 25 plus pages --/

Peetur2147

30-01-2009 18:41:34

tax is reimbursed

stagefrog2

30-01-2009 20:16:06

ACE Cash Express or any netspend.com location Pay-as-you-go card = free to get card and load with any amount. $1 per signature transaction, $2 per PIN transaction. If you pay for something more than $250 at Best Buy with debit, cash, or check and return it, they mail you a corporate check back in 8-10 business days.

You can also use it at an atm, but there are fees,etc.

edgespeeder04

30-01-2009 20:33:47

But can we use those? I mean if we can get an actual receipt for it, sure and then the item we buy with it we can use too.

stagefrog2

30-01-2009 22:01:08

[quoteece648d05f="edgespeeder04"]But can we use those? I mean if we can get an actual receipt for it, sure and then the item we buy with it we can use too.[/quoteece648d05f]
I'm assuming you're responding to the netspend post above you? Then yeah, you can use it as a regular debit card. You just have to decide if the fees are worth it. I got a receipt that had the amount listed when I went in person to the ACE Cash Express.

heather77

31-01-2009 00:50:30

btw, if people are wondering about the amex receipts...
I called Mpell today and they said the email receipt you get after your order is approved is fine.

kinneylamb

31-01-2009 02:12:27

btw you people are obsessed with waiting and not getting your money, think positive. there's no reason not to with mpell, everything else is all faked speculation.

for those of you who want a visa gift card for a larger amount of $$ and with a small fee, check out my post on A4F (diy section > letter from brandarama thread).

DRay9911

31-01-2009 04:08:06

you need to be a wachovia visa/mastercard holder to make a purchase.

-dan

kwoodyk34k

31-01-2009 09:40:24

Yarggh, denied again at AmEx.
What have other people used for a $2,000 purchase?
Trying to get some ideas here.

ashilef

31-01-2009 09:43:43

[quotea857ddaf3c="kinneylamb"]btw you people are obsessed with waiting and not getting your money, think positive. there's no reason not to with mpell, everything else is all faked speculation.

for those of you who want a visa gift card for a larger amount of $$ and with a small fee, check out my post on A4F (diy section > letter from brandarama thread).[/quotea857ddaf3c]

Meh...I suggest if you want all roses and sunshine you go back to A4F...people are realist over here....

dubbin87

31-01-2009 10:01:06

[quote0957201675="ashilef"][quote0957201675="kinneylamb"]btw you people are obsessed with waiting and not getting your money, think positive. there's no reason not to with mpell, everything else is all faked speculation.

for those of you who want a visa gift card for a larger amount of $$ and with a small fee, check out my post on A4F (diy section > letter from brandarama thread).[/quote0957201675]

Meh...I suggest if you want all roses and sunshine you go back to A4F..[b0957201675].people are realist over here....[/b0957201675][/quote0957201675]

riiiiiiiiiight

livingloud28

31-01-2009 10:01:08

Dang I only have like 28 days to get these forms to them and buy somethings worth $2050 . (

RyanG

31-01-2009 10:10:39

[quote2389e9d961="zr2152"][quote2389e9d961="RyanG"]ordered through websites.[/quote2389e9d961]

You should probably check because it does seem like it IS a cash advance (at least it should be).[/quote2389e9d961]

Called Capital One, turns out it isn't. All of them are considered purchases so interest rate assessed by APR.

desertwilite

31-01-2009 10:43:52

Has anyone been able to use a visa gift card to buy a store gift card?

steveyankee

31-01-2009 11:13:02

[quote8089ec9032="ashilef"][quote8089ec9032="kinneylamb"]btw you people are obsessed with waiting and not getting your money, think positive. there's no reason not to with mpell, everything else is all faked speculation.

for those of you who want a visa gift card for a larger amount of $$ and with a small fee, check out my post on A4F (diy section > letter from brandarama thread).[/quote8089ec9032]

Meh...I suggest if you want all roses and sunshine you go back to A4F...people are realist over here....[/quote8089ec9032]

we got a tough one here

you listen to avril lavigne?

DRay9911

31-01-2009 12:12:33

figure out where you spent your money last year and buy a gift card there.

i bought a $1k walmart card and a $600 costco card.

it doesn't always have to be about buying a gift card and taking it straight to the ATM

-dan



[quote1732dbb044="kwoodyk34k"]Yarggh, denied again at AmEx.
What have other people used for a $2,000 purchase?
Trying to get some ideas here.[/quote1732dbb044]

[quote1732dbb044="livingloud28"]Dang I only have like 28 days to get these forms to them and buy somethings worth $2050 . ([/quote1732dbb044]

desertwilite

31-01-2009 12:22:26

Yeh, I bought a few grocery cards and gas cards, then when my credit card starts the next billing period I'll buy more to spread it out a bit. I was wondering about buying a visa and then purchasing a store card with the visa to make up a couple of receipts. I just don't know if the visa would work that way.

kwoodyk34k

31-01-2009 14:07:48

[quote9327c39762="DRay9911"]figure out where you spent your money last year and buy a gift card there.

i bought a $1k walmart card and a $600 costco card.

it doesn't always have to be about buying a gift card and taking it straight to the ATM

-dan



[quote9327c39762="kwoodyk34k"]Yarggh, denied again at AmEx.
What have other people used for a $2,000 purchase?
Trying to get some ideas here.[/quote9327c39762]

[quote9327c39762="livingloud28"]Dang I only have like 28 days to get these forms to them and buy somethings worth $2050 . ([/quote9327c39762][/quote9327c39762]

Yeah, I'd take a store card to just about anywhere but the highest I can find is Target for 1k.

Walmart says they have them for up to $2,500 but when you go to the page it says,

Not Sold Online

Not Sold in Stores

EDIT Oops nevermind... the Walmart one was just that specific design that was sold out... stupid me...

I'll try to buy one once that pending AmEx Charge goes away.

desertwilite

31-01-2009 14:20:05

Well I have been having trouble with all purchases using my bank credit card. They have denied every purchase I guess because it's a new account or something. First thing I would do is call your cc and see if they put a hold on your account.

ashilef

31-01-2009 16:13:35

[quoteef63332c96="steveyankee"][quoteef63332c96="ashilef"][quoteef63332c96="kinneylamb"]btw you people are obsessed with waiting and not getting your money, think positive. there's no reason not to with mpell, everything else is all faked speculation.

for those of you who want a visa gift card for a larger amount of $$ and with a small fee, check out my post on A4F (diy section > letter from brandarama thread).[/quoteef63332c96]

Meh...I suggest if you want all roses and sunshine you go back to A4F...people are realist over here....[/quoteef63332c96]

we got a tough one here

you listen to avril lavigne?[/quoteef63332c96]

no, lol I just think its funny, that the fact people here actually talk about the possibility of this not working out are being labeled obsessed and negative.

mistertomlinson

31-01-2009 16:26:53

Well if this does work out and I receive my money, I still got that 4 offer Toshiba site parked (the one they're sending $1,000 checks for) and I wont hesitate to complete it! I've been doing DIYs for a little over a year, saving up for a new car and had originally planned to save around $13,000, but a couple of the big sites I had on my list (I Deal and YFD) have expired, so I'm about $4,000 short. I could seriously use some more Brandaramas!

Stkfree1

31-01-2009 18:37:55

[quote833b38f7fd="mistertomlinson"]Well if this does work out and I receive my money, I still got that 4 offer Toshiba site parked (the one they're sending $1,000 checks for) and I wont hesitate to complete it! I've been doing DIYs for a little over a year, saving up for a new car and had originally planned to save around $13,000, but a couple of the big sites I had on my list (I Deal and YFD) have expired, so I'm about $4,000 short. I could seriously use some more Brandaramas![/quote833b38f7fd]

Won't that be past the 180 day that you must complete offers?

EDIT 90 day limit

kwoodyk34k

31-01-2009 19:05:03

[quotef46804cdc1="Stkfree1"][quotef46804cdc1="mistertomlinson"]Well if this does work out and I receive my money, I still got that 4 offer Toshiba site parked (the one they're sending $1,000 checks for) and I wont hesitate to complete it! I've been doing DIYs for a little over a year, saving up for a new car and had originally planned to save around $13,000, but a couple of the big sites I had on my list (I Deal and YFD) have expired, so I'm about $4,000 short. I could seriously use some more Brandaramas![/quotef46804cdc1]

Won't that be past the 180 day that you must complete offers?

EDIT 90 day limit[/quotef46804cdc1]

You were right the first time. It is 180 days. And they don't care about the time limit. At least, they never did before. I've done sites after a year.

cny

31-01-2009 19:17:04

[quote2cf1d417d0="desertwilite"]Well I have been having trouble with all purchases using my bank credit card. They have denied every purchase I guess because it's a new account or something. First thing I would do is call your cc and see if they put a hold on your account.[/quote2cf1d417d0]

I made a call to Amex before making my purchases to tell them I'm buying a few big ticket items online with my Amex credit card. No problem, they said they'll take note and I can go ahead and shop. 1 day later, 3 of my online orders for electronics were denied coz they failed authorization. Later, Amex CSR called to say that they noticed unusual activity on my card and ask if I made these purchases. I also used Citi Mastercard on other purchases and later got an automated call about unusual activity on my card. Walmart.com CSR called to ask if I made any online orders with them; yes, I did. Sigh, at this rate, if most of my purchases were denied, I'm not going to be able to send all my certs in time.

dmorris68

31-01-2009 20:15:12

The 180 day time limit starts after the first offer is completed, at least that's what they told me, and not from signup date.

I have a $1000 VISA for 4 offers parked since 04/07, and I e-mailed them awhile ago to confirm. I should have that e-mail somewhere. I'm considering doing it now if this MPell arrangement will speed things up a bit. I was getting a bit concerned that Brandarama would just get further behind and eventually stop paying, so kept procrastinating on it. Looking back, for 4 easy offers, I should have just done it and forgot about it.

EDIT here's the e-mail, from right after they started the 180-day thing

[quote73a640aada]Reference number XXXXXXXXXXX Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Subject Other

Dear XXXXXXX,

Thank you for contacting us.

That 180 days is how long you have to complete your offers. It looks like you have not started this process yet so this 180 days has not yet started.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Anne
YourTopBrands Member Support

---------------Original Message---------------
From XXXXXXXXXX

Subject
Other


Hi, I signed up for the Free Game Room ($1000 VISA) site back on 4/18 and have been waiting for a good selection of offers that interest me. Now I notice that you've recently implemented a 180 day expiration that wasn't there before. Do I have 180 days from the policy change, or from signup on 4/18? If from signup, that would give me only another month to start the site and finish it -- is that enough time in case there are crediting issues?

Thanks![/quote73a640aada]

kalinkster

31-01-2009 20:25:19

Well, I have been following this thread and hoping to get my letter soon. I emailed YTB and Holly told me that I should have gotten a letter from Mpell last week about their new exciting Cash Back Program.

Does anyone of you here are still waiting to receive a letter from Mpell?

My location is WI.

Thanks!

zr2152

31-01-2009 20:31:28

My gf is waiting and she is in Philadelphia. She called yesterday and they told her that if she had nor received them by the end of next week that she should call back.

A lot of ppl have received theirs already so she is a little worried.

wiebelhaus03

31-01-2009 20:46:31

a few ppl who havent received their letters from oct CTS $1000 visa are gettin a check mailed to them from brandarama instead

tylerc

31-01-2009 20:53:33

I went to buy some stuff today and called Chase before I went to tell them I would be buying some large purchases, yet they still denied my card after I tried to do multiple transactions on one card.

desertwilite

31-01-2009 21:01:15

[quotea8eba2e91c="tylerc"]I went to buy some stuff today and called Chase before I went to tell them I would be buying some large purchases, yet they still denied my card after I tried to do multiple transactions on one card.[/quotea8eba2e91c]

Yep, Chase is my bank too and I have been getting denied left and right. I have to call them and go through the whole cc fraud thing for every purchase!! Really getting tired of them since they are the ones who gave me a well funded CC in the first place!

tylerc

31-01-2009 21:21:09

Exactly, I have more than enough credit to cover all my purchases, what's the point of having all that credit if I can't use it?

edgespeeder04

31-01-2009 21:39:08

[quote17880d1f30="zr2152"]My gf is waiting and she is in Philadelphia. She called yesterday and they told her that if she had nor received them by the end of next week that she should call back.

A lot of ppl have received theirs already so she is a little worried.[/quote17880d1f30]

i havent received several yet, only got four but i know i missing many more, two are the nordstrom and tiffanys card

vijay04964

01-02-2009 09:09:31

Got it all ready. Sending in my three certs tomm!!!

DRay9911

01-02-2009 10:11:09

they are doing it to protect you. it's all automated so even if you call beforehand, the most they will do is put a note in your file when you call back.

i'm surprised people have not experienced this more when signing up for trial offers. if i sign up for 2 or 3 with the same card it will raise a flag.

-dan


[quote3c438ec5f5="desertwilite"]Yep, Chase is my bank too and I have been getting denied left and right. I have to call them and go through the whole cc fraud thing for every purchase!! Really getting tired of them since they are the ones who gave me a well funded CC in the first place![/quote3c438ec5f5]

[quote3c438ec5f5="tylerc"]Exactly, I have more than enough credit to cover all my purchases, what's the point of having all that credit if I can't use it?[/quote3c438ec5f5]

wiebelhaus03

01-02-2009 10:59:42

ya i use paypal and they call me everytime i do a site just to double check

kwoodyk34k

01-02-2009 11:14:17

I just tried buying a $1,000 Walmart with my PayPal Debit card and it was denied.
Luckily they allow PayPal checkout so it went through.

Sucks that I didn't get my 1% cashback though...

Now I just have to cross my fingers that it ships before they cancel it... unlike the AmEx cards...

livingloud28

01-02-2009 12:23:08

Did you print out a receipt D . That should count as a purchase .

kwoodyk34k

01-02-2009 15:33:39

[quote2fdc5146f6="livingloud28"]Did you print out a receipt D . That should count as a purchase .[/quote2fdc5146f6]

I think it has to go shipped before it counts.

PayPal called me then Walmart called me.
So it better go through, lol.

kwoodyk34k

01-02-2009 18:11:23

Why don't people just buy gift cards with gift cards?

Ex

Buy a $500 Best Buy Gift Card
Use that to buy a $500 BB Gift Card
Use that to buy a $500 BB Gift Card
Use that to buy a $500 BB Gift Card

Seems a lot easier than buying AmEx or Visa and buying store gift cards with that and getting only 2 receipts total.

So why not just keep buying gift cards with those gift cards?

I asked if we could pay for our gifts in store gift cards and they said 3 times that,

[iea082a0a0b]We do not dictate how you have to pay for your gifts. That decision is up to you. You will not be declined.[/iea082a0a0b]

So if they don't care how we pay for our gifts and gift cards are obviously legit purchases, what's stopping a gift card conga?

I sent an e-mail on Saturday about it and am waiting a reply.

Couldn't hurt for some others to shoot them an e-mail about it and see what they say. More validation = Less worries

bennyboy5768

01-02-2009 18:30:27

Because gift cards cannot be paid with gift cards. Every store on the planet has that policy.

kwoodyk34k

01-02-2009 19:02:31

[quotef0cf981358="bennyboy5768"]Because gift cards cannot be paid with gift cards. Every store on the planet has that policy.[/quotef0cf981358]

Best Buy GC - $50 Gift Card $50 BLUE SKU 8234092
Product Total $50.00
Shipping & Handling FREE
Why am I charged tax? Tax $0.00
Subtotal $50.00
Gift Cards -$50.00
Order Total (charged to credit card)
$0.00

Thank You For Your Order
Print
Please print this page for your records (we'll also e-mail this information to you).

Looks like you're wrong.
Unless they cancel it.

livingloud28

01-02-2009 20:21:02

Ok are we allowed to return BestBuy giftcards once we make a purchase ? Same for other store gift cards ?

kwoodyk34k

01-02-2009 20:45:31

[quotecb4b1fd7f4="livingloud28"]Ok are we allowed to return BestBuy giftcards once we make a purchase ? Same for other store gift cards ?[/quotecb4b1fd7f4]

No, you can't return gift cards.
I was saying that if someone has to buy 5 $500 gifts they can buy a $500 gift card and keep buying gift cards with that gift card.

But Benny said that stores don't allow that. So we'll see if my order gets canceled or what.

The $50 was merely a test because I had it laying next to me.

bennyboy5768

01-02-2009 20:55:07

Unless they changed the rules, every store i've been to has on the back of the receipt or on the gift card that says gift cards cannot be paid for with gift cards. If it does work, I stand corrected.

nwong82

01-02-2009 21:00:45

is everyone referencing the email t hat i gave brandarama on the mpell form ???

ashilef

01-02-2009 21:04:06

I'll be mailing off my certs with delivery confirmation tomorrow. So glad I don't have to worry about what to buy anymore.

kwoodyk34k

01-02-2009 21:13:00

[quotefbf67c6c28="bennyboy5768"]Unless they changed the rules, every store i've been to has on the back of the receipt or on the gift card that says gift cards cannot be paid for with gift cards. If it does work, I stand corrected.[/quotefbf67c6c28]

I just looked at the back of the card and on the packaging it came with and it doesn't say anything like that. We'll find out if my $50 card ships tomorrow or not.

I was hoping it would work with Walmart because that goes up to $2500. If anyone has a cheap Walmart gift card that they know they're not going to use within the next week perhaps they could try and order a $5 Walmart card online with it and see what happens.

Otherwise I'll just wait til my 1k one gets here and give it a shot.

I asked MPell specifically about Best Buy and if I can just keep buying 500's with 500's and send them the receipts.

Tomorrow I'll update what they say and if my BB order goes through.

kwoodyk34k

01-02-2009 21:14:07

[quote7e10b71e43="nwong82"]is everyone referencing the email t hat i gave brandarama on the mpell form ???[/quote7e10b71e43]

Nope. What did it say?

janarae

02-02-2009 09:38:30

[quotec9d3ac6aab="bennyboy5768"]Because gift cards cannot be paid with gift cards. Every store on the planet has that policy.[/quotec9d3ac6aab]
The exception to this would be with a Visa or MC gift card. I know I have purchased restaurant gc with one of those before in addition to Home Depot GCs with a Visa gift card.

oleus

02-02-2009 10:26:08

update on registering Amex GC's -

even though customer service initially told me my card was ready to go for any use, a previous poster was indeed 100% correct - if you want to use your amex online, you have to have your name and address associated with it.

desertwilite

02-02-2009 10:31:50

[quotef7107754f9="janarae"][quotef7107754f9="bennyboy5768"]Because gift cards cannot be paid with gift cards. Every store on the planet has that policy.[/quotef7107754f9]
The exception to this would be with a Visa or MC gift card. I know I have purchased restaurant gc with one of those before in addition to Home Depot GCs with a Visa gift card.[/quotef7107754f9]

Thank you, I've been wondering about using the visa to buy home Depot or Lowes cards

supersponger1979

02-02-2009 10:49:08

Anyone know if I buy a $500 Visa gift card if I can buy a money order with the card and deposit that in my bank? Essentially, I want the money not the card...Thanks

bruman

02-02-2009 11:01:45

[quote8cdadc6702="supersponger1979"]Anyone know if I buy a $500 Visa gift card if I can buy a money order with the card and deposit that in my bank? Essentially, I want the money not the card...Thanks[/quote8cdadc6702]

You can't buy a money order using credit. If the card doesn't have a PIN associated with it (debit), it is considered credit.

oleus

02-02-2009 11:06:52

anyone know if Mpell considers airline tickets fair game for reimbursement?

wiebelhaus03

02-02-2009 11:31:04

yes but it has to be ONE airline ticket. If you buy 2 airline tickets worth $500, they will reimburse you $250

kwoodyk34k

02-02-2009 11:38:35

Anyone waiting for an e-mail from MPell?
I sent mine Saturday.

DRay9911

02-02-2009 11:41:07

you are better off giving them a call (or reading through this thread)

-dan

kwoodyk34k

02-02-2009 11:55:17

[quoted7f0e8a7ee="DRay9911"]you are better off giving them a call (or reading through this thread)

-dan[/quoted7f0e8a7ee]

Yeah. I have but I like it in writing. Especially since everyone I've talked to has sounded like a confused 13 year old girl.


...Not that I often talk to confused 13 year old girls....

...Please don't tell the police

kalinkster

02-02-2009 12:08:42

Update

I just got an email from YTB

[quotefa9a3db5f0]Dear XXX,

Thank you for contacting us.

You will not be receiving a letter for the Best Buy. You will be receiving the gift card or a check. I do not know the shipping information on this, nor do I have any idea as to when it will approximately ship out.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support [/quotefa9a3db5f0]

I was CTS December 26th 2007 for $500 BB card.


-kalinkster

kwoodyk34k

02-02-2009 12:14:02

[quote1e2775d577="kalinkster"]Update

I just got an email from YTB

[quote1e2775d577]Dear XXX,

Thank you for contacting us.

You will not be receiving a letter for the Best Buy. You will be receiving the gift card or a check. I do not know the shipping information on this, nor do I have any idea as to when it will approximately ship out.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support [/quote1e2775d577]

I was CTS December 26th 2007 for $500 BB card.


-kalinkster[/quote1e2775d577]

I was CTS for that gift the very next day and I received my letter.
Weird.

ashilef

02-02-2009 12:37:46

[quote2dc025fa39="kalinkster"]Update

I just got an email from YTB

[quote2dc025fa39]Dear XXX,

Thank you for contacting us.

You will not be receiving a letter for the Best Buy. You will be receiving the gift card or a check. I do not know the shipping information on this, nor do I have any idea as to when it will approximately ship out.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support [/quote2dc025fa39]

I was CTS December 26th 2007 for $500 BB card.


-kalinkster[/quote2dc025fa39]

It will be interesing to see who gets their payout faster...

skooter22c

02-02-2009 12:50:37

My delivery confirmation says they received my cert, receipt and id on Sat. Jan. 31, 2009. Now I will wait a little bit and call to verify I sent in the right stuff.

dubbin87

02-02-2009 12:51:30

Yeah I'm not understanding the logic behind them handing most of our gifts over to Mpell and keeping a select few.

Zags1199

02-02-2009 13:14:22

Since they buy the cards in bulk, they probably have some left over still.

desertwilite

02-02-2009 13:37:44

[quotef0e2ff6482="skooter22c"]My delivery confirmation says they received my cert, receipt and id on Sat. Jan. 31, 2009. Now I will wait a little bit and call to verify I sent in the right stuff.[/quotef0e2ff6482]

So if you send in the wrong thing, did they say anywhere that we would have another chance to send in the right stuff? Just wondering if that was confirmed.

imapepper

02-02-2009 13:44:20

Good question...im hoping all mine is correct! and it should be, but I think they should allow you to correct it if you are still within the alloted time frame of 30 days ya know.

LLee93

02-02-2009 13:55:37

Can we start a thread just for people to post in when they receive their checks?

livingloud28

02-02-2009 14:01:56

Thats a bunch of garbage I was confirmed to ship in November 2007 and this guy is getting a gift card .

DRay9911

02-02-2009 14:08:29

if you weren't sure if you sent in the right information, you shouldn't have mailed it in the first place.

it's really not that tough
- certificate
- receipt
- photo ID

they already had 908723412 calls over the last 2 weeks. they don't need 92343645234 more from people asking "did i send what i was supposed to?" or "did you get my certificate?"

if you don't get your check in 10 weeks, then call them.

[quote1a945a8481="skooter22c"]My delivery confirmation says they received my cert, receipt and id on Sat. Jan. 31, 2009. Now I will wait a little bit and call to verify I sent in the right stuff.[/quote1a945a8481]

there's no reason for a new thread.

[quote1a945a8481="LLee93"]Can we start a thread just for people to post in when they receive their checks?[/quote1a945a8481]

-dan

ashilef

02-02-2009 14:19:39

[quote2a2f1847fc="DRay9911"]if you weren't sure if you sent in the right information, you shouldn't have mailed it in the first place.

it's really not that tough
- certificate
- receipt
- photo ID

they already had 908723412 calls over the last 2 weeks. they don't need 92343645234 more from people asking "did i send what i was supposed to?" or "did you get my certificate?"

if you don't get your check in 10 weeks, then call them.

[quote2a2f1847fc="skooter22c"]My delivery confirmation says they received my cert, receipt and id on Sat. Jan. 31, 2009. Now I will wait a little bit and call to verify I sent in the right stuff.[/quote2a2f1847fc]

there's no reason for a new thread.

[quote2a2f1847fc="LLee93"]Can we start a thread just for people to post in when they receive their checks?[/quote2a2f1847fc]

-dan[/quote2a2f1847fc]

Actually it wouldn't hurt to call a week or so after you send off your certs to make sure you are in the system and the certs were approved. Someone on another forum already did this and it wasn't the end of the world. I mean it IS part of their job description to answer questions if people have them.

dubbin87

02-02-2009 14:21:04

[quote20822f32d7="Zags1199"]Since they buy the cards in bulk, they probably have some left over still.[/quote20822f32d7]

Nah, if they have gift cards laying around then they wouldn't be telling us that they have no idea when we will get our gift. Plus there still is some randomness as to who is getting paid from them rather than MPell.

dubbin87

02-02-2009 14:56:26

damm i should have checked my account before replying. My 1k visa is marked shipped.

luumon

02-02-2009 15:09:32

i purchased a visa gift card but it didn't come with reciept. does anyone know if an email reciept would be good enough? thanks

livingloud28

02-02-2009 15:43:28

Dang I am qualified for my $500 Amex and Sports Authority now and $200 Dunkin Donuts lol how am I going to do this D.

slambam

02-02-2009 15:53:14

When I called asking about all the stuff, I called and asked that it was OK that I sent everything and all the stuff was ok, he said "yea definitely".

johnnyc

02-02-2009 16:22:04

can we just buy american express gift CHECKS? they are avalible online and in alot of chase banks and other banks?

and you can cash them out at banks.

https//www212.americanexpress.com/dsmlive/dsm/dom/us/en/personal/cardmember/additionalproductsandservices/giftcardsandtravelerscheques/learnmoreaboutamericanexpressgiftcheques.do?vgnextoid=cdce033f5f92a110VgnVCM200000d0faad94RCRD&vgnextchannel=95ddb81e8482a110VgnVCM100000defaad94RCRD

livingloud28

02-02-2009 16:26:51

I talked with Mpell and they said no they are like money orders .

gomez1399

02-02-2009 17:37:50

[quote3817bdb473="dubbin87"]damm i should have checked my account before replying. My 1k visa is marked shipped.[/quote3817bdb473]

WOW. I was CTS Oct. 1 2007. Checked earlier today, still showed as CTS, so I figured I'd wait until the end of the week to see about my letter from MPell. Just checked now, and guess what??

$1000 Visa Gift Card
Shipped
[Feb-2-09 307 PM]

I about wet myself. And here I was, planning out when I'd go to my bank to buy a couple $500 Visa gift cards. Wonders never cease.

cronerd

02-02-2009 18:01:47

umm sorry to break it to you but everyones changed to shipped, basically it means the mpell letter shipped, your not gonna get ur gift trust me, mine said shipped the 19th of january and it hasnt come so it doenst mean anything, no need to wet urself

potsey2007

02-02-2009 18:05:37

[quotec857bda96b="cronerd"]umm sorry to break it to you but everyones changed to shipped, basically it means the mpell letter shipped, your not gonna get ur gift trust me, mine said shipped the 19th of january and it hasnt come so it doenst mean anything, no need to wet urself[/quotec857bda96b]

None of my 4 that I got letters for went shipped....

wiebelhaus03

02-02-2009 18:07:45

[quote2efe3dbaaf="cronerd"]umm sorry to break it to you but everyones changed to shipped, basically it means the mpell letter shipped, your not gonna get ur gift trust me, mine said shipped the 19th of january and it hasnt come so it doenst mean anything, no need to wet urself[/quote2efe3dbaaf]

WRONG if your status has changed to "shipped" then you're getting a gift from brandarama (they said usually a check). This has happened to quite a few people CTS in Oct 07 for the $1k visa, but someone who was CTS in Dec 07 for the $500 best buy also had a check shipped

tylerc

02-02-2009 18:15:14

[quotef90424d7a3="cronerd"]umm sorry to break it to you but everyones changed to shipped, basically it means the mpell letter shipped, your not gonna get ur gift trust me, mine said shipped the 19th of january and it hasnt come so it doenst mean anything, no need to wet urself[/quotef90424d7a3]

Umm try to know what you're talking about before you sound like a complete jackass?

dubbin87

02-02-2009 18:20:26

[quote2a8d005a77="tylerc"][quote2a8d005a77="cronerd"]umm sorry to break it to you but everyones changed to shipped, basically it means the mpell letter shipped, your not gonna get ur gift trust me, mine said shipped the 19th of january and it hasnt come so it doenst mean anything, no need to wet urself[/quote2a8d005a77]

Umm try to know what you're talking about before you sound like a complete jackass?[/quote2a8d005a77]

buhahahahhaha lol

fbskiracer

02-02-2009 18:39:09

I was denied credit for my tuition bill (dated before Jan 26th) for my $2500 Education check, my National Board of Medicine Liscencing Exam, and for Kaplan Qbank Supscriptions

Eeyore

02-02-2009 18:40:39

[quote5982d34c95="cronerd"]umm sorry to break it to you but everyones changed to shipped, basically it means the mpell letter shipped, your not gonna get ur gift trust me, mine said shipped the 19th of january and it hasnt come so it doenst mean anything, no need to wet urself[/quote5982d34c95]
Nope. My two Mpell certificate gifts are still 'confirmed'. If anyone went "shipped", that means they're getting theirs direct from Brandarama under the original terms.

ILoveToys

02-02-2009 18:41:20

I was cts in Oct for the visa...I still am CTS and got the mpell letter...

wiebelhaus03

02-02-2009 18:46:20

ya in case you haven't noticed from his numerous pointless posts, cronerd is retarded or just plain stupid, one of the two

mookieb2

02-02-2009 19:33:23

I don't know if name calling is necessary. He just tends to gravitate toward the negative.

Zags1199

02-02-2009 19:49:15

[quotebb7dc2b24a="tylerc"][quotebb7dc2b24a="cronerd"]umm sorry to break it to you but everyones changed to shipped, basically it means the mpell letter shipped, your not gonna get ur gift trust me, mine said shipped the 19th of january and it hasnt come so it doenst mean anything, no need to wet urself[/quotebb7dc2b24a]

Umm try to know what you're talking about before you sound like a complete jackass?[/quotebb7dc2b24a]

Rofl, nice.

slambam

02-02-2009 20:17:34

[quote8ceba9b79e="fbskiracer"]I was denied credit for my tuition bill (dated before Jan 26th) for my $2500 Education check, my National Board of Medicine Liscencing Exam, and for Kaplan Qbank Supscriptions[/quote8ceba9b79e]

Did you call and find this out (before or after you sent them in?), or did they notify you after you sent them in? They received mine Friday, I was thinking about calling tomorrow.... Has anybody called yet?

livingloud28

02-02-2009 20:19:10

Can you feel the love in this room ! D

wiebelhaus03

02-02-2009 20:20:54

has anybody ordered from gifcards.com? I ordered and so far only received a confirmation email and am wondering if that's the only receipt they send....

RyanG

02-02-2009 20:36:05

[quote9f5f92883d="wiebelhaus03"]has anybody ordered from gifcards.com? I ordered and so far only received a confirmation email and am wondering if that's the only receipt they send....[/quote9f5f92883d]

They send another once it's processed [charged and shipped].

wiebelhaus03

02-02-2009 20:39:15

thanks!

Daggoth

02-02-2009 22:33:23

[quote43c2c4a16b="kwoodyk34k"][quote43c2c4a16b="kalinkster"]Update

I just got an email from YTB

[quote43c2c4a16b]Dear XXX,

Thank you for contacting us.

You will not be receiving a letter for the Best Buy. You will be receiving the gift card or a check. I do not know the shipping information on this, nor do I have any idea as to when it will approximately ship out.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
YourTopBrands Member Support [/quote43c2c4a16b]

I was CTS December 26th 2007 for $500 BB card.


-kalinkster[/quote43c2c4a16b]

I was CTS for that gift the very next day and I received my letter.
Weird.[/quote43c2c4a16b]

I was CTS December 18th, and received a letter. (

edgespeeder04

03-02-2009 08:12:47

thy are pissing me off....two sites I have confirmed to ship from householdsavingsclub.com went back to confirm when I e-mailed them last night asking if i would get my letters for those two.

This is the 3 f-in time I sent my letters and have those two gifts approved again and somehow everytime they go to check stuff they mess it up....ughhhhhhhh

Sorry had to vent somewhere.

skooter22c

03-02-2009 09:13:56

DRay9911 - I know I sent the right stuff, but allot of people are "sure" they sent the right stuff in a rebate situation and the issuing company finds a way to not pay out. Like not dotting an "i" or crossing a "t". Things like that. Or they might say they can't read my id copy (which I blew up 200%) but you just never know. SO better to know early and ask for another chance if they get picky. Thats all

bayarea05

03-02-2009 12:44:03

"Your reimbursement is for the single highest item. That does not include taxes, accessories, warranties ect. "


I been hearing that will get reimbursed tax now I gotten a email from them that we will not.

ashilef

03-02-2009 13:08:32

[quote1dd39d398f="bayarea05"]"Your reimbursement is for the single highest item. That does not include taxes, accessories, warranties ect. "


I been hearing that will get reimbursed tax now I gotten a email from them that we will not.[/quote1dd39d398f]

You'll only get reimbursed for the tax if your receipt is under the amount owed to you.

beerman

03-02-2009 13:25:01

Brandarama told my friend they are not sending out at 1099's for 2008, is this true?

I KNOW....you still have to claim all gifts.....just curious if other people were told the same thing....I am going to file tonight if that is the case....

bayarea05

03-02-2009 13:35:51

[quotedba7af9a5e="ashilef"][quotedba7af9a5e="bayarea05"]"Your reimbursement is for the single highest item. That does not include taxes, accessories, warranties ect. "


I been hearing that will get reimbursed tax now I gotten a email from them that we will not.[/quotedba7af9a5e]

You'll only get reimbursed for the tax if your receipt is under the amount owed to you.[/quotedba7af9a5e]

Negative. I spoke to a customer service rep, only the purchase price of the item. No tax is getting reimbursed. ( I will lose out 125 dollars, O well...better then nothing

freeipodplayer

03-02-2009 13:49:47

[quote5a8132d316="beerman"]Brandarama told my friend they are not sending out at 1099's for 2008, is this true?

I KNOW....you still have to claim all gifts.....just curious if other people were told the same thing....I am going to file tonight if that is the case....[/quote5a8132d316]

They told me the same thing on the phone.

freeipodplayer

03-02-2009 13:50:49

[quote6c10c2f7ed="bayarea05"]"Your reimbursement is for the single highest item. That does not include taxes, accessories, warranties ect. "


I been hearing that will get reimbursed tax now I gotten a email from them that we will not.[/quote6c10c2f7ed]

They told someone I know, they would include tax. But if the form says it won't ... I would count on getting it.

manOFice

03-02-2009 13:53:53

[quote008bc80bc4="bayarea05"][quote008bc80bc4="ashilef"][quote008bc80bc4="bayarea05"]"Your reimbursement is for the single highest item. That does not include taxes, accessories, warranties ect. "


I been hearing that will get reimbursed tax now I gotten a email from them that we will not.[/quote008bc80bc4]

You'll only get reimbursed for the tax if your receipt is under the amount owed to you.[/quote008bc80bc4]

Negative. I spoke to a customer service rep, only the purchase price of the item. No tax is getting reimbursed. ( I will lose out 125 dollars, O well...better then nothing[/quote008bc80bc4]

That is bull shit, thats not what we were told before

bayarea05

03-02-2009 14:05:42

[quoteebc557077d="manOFice"][quoteebc557077d="bayarea05"][quoteebc557077d="ashilef"][quoteebc557077d="bayarea05"]"Your reimbursement is for the single highest item. That does not include taxes, accessories, warranties ect. "


I been hearing that will get reimbursed tax now I gotten a email from them that we will not.[/quoteebc557077d]

You'll only get reimbursed for the tax if your receipt is under the amount owed to you.[/quoteebc557077d]

Negative. I spoke to a customer service rep, only the purchase price of the item. No tax is getting reimbursed. ( I will lose out 125 dollars, O well...better then nothing[/quoteebc557077d]

That is bull shit, thats not what we were told before[/quoteebc557077d]

I wasnt told from them that tax was reminbursed, Someone just posted here that it will be reimbursed. You can call them and redo your purchase before the 30 day deadline, I decided not too, too much work. At least im getting something back.

bayarea05

03-02-2009 14:06:38

[quote2cf1d1234a="freeipodplayer"][quote2cf1d1234a="bayarea05"]"Your reimbursement is for the single highest item. That does not include taxes, accessories, warranties ect. "


I been hearing that will get reimbursed tax now I gotten a email from them that we will not.[/quote2cf1d1234a]

They told someone I know, they would include tax. But if the form says it won't ... I would count on getting it.[/quote2cf1d1234a]


Thats just hear-say then. Call them for yourself.

mookieb2

03-02-2009 14:11:38

So with Brandarama not sending out 1099's (just got off the phone with them), when I claim the gifts I will do it as "other income" on my tax form?

The last thing I want is an audit based on $1,000 not claimed.

Also, in years past there was an ID number from them (there is also a number on the Ideal form) that shows who they are to the IRS, do I need to hunt and find that number from last years taxes or does it not matter because they don't seem to be filing on their end?



How can they do this? Not file? Seems they are on the tail end of their business life. (And I am one of the be postive people)

FreebieExpert

03-02-2009 14:26:07

the IRS wont find out unless they look at your bank records and see that the checks have been posted and nothing was claimed. if you make under 50 grand a year they prob wont bother you.

tylerc

03-02-2009 14:30:54

Sent my forms in to MPell today via Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation.

dmorris68

03-02-2009 15:58:16

[quote3c35d0ebbd="mookieb2"]How can they do this? Not file? Seems they are on the tail end of their business life. (And I am one of the be postive people)[/quote3c35d0ebbd]
They're still filing their taxes, but if they don't submit 1099's then I'm pretty sure they cannot write off the payouts as a business expense without a 1099 record of who was paid and when. Unless they do some "creative accounting" to hide it under some general, non-specific business expenses, I can't imagine why they'd forgo that sizable write-off, but I guess it must make business sense to them somehow. The IRS doesn't require you to deduct expenses if you choose not to. It just means a bigger tax bill for you.

It still doesn't absolve the recipient of the legal duty to claim the income themselves.

[quote3c35d0ebbd="FreebieExpert"]the IRS wont find out unless they look at your bank records and see that the checks have been posted and nothing was claimed. if you make under 50 grand a year they prob wont bother you.[/quote3c35d0ebbd]
Do NOT come here and even suggest to people that they not follow the law and report their income. What you or others decide to do on your own is of course your own private business, but open discussion of tax fraud will be no more tolerated here than offer/advertiser/freebie site fraud would be.

Zags1199

03-02-2009 16:16:52

Don't worry, dmorris, he'll just pay the IRS a visit if he gets audited.

EatChex89

03-02-2009 16:46:21

I got the BestBuy letter as well. Only thing is that it came to my parents so they faxed me a copy of it and mailed the originals. I am still waiting on the originals to come in but may just send it in with the copies (calling them first of course).

I already bought a $499.99 laptop on NewEgg so that should cover my $500 expense, yes?

Also I was CTS Dec 10th '07 and my status has NOT changed to shipped even though I got the letter.

mjforever

03-02-2009 17:25:39

[quote1023851558="slambam"][quote1023851558="fbskiracer"]I was denied credit for my tuition bill (dated before Jan 26th) for my $2500 Education check, my National Board of Medicine Liscencing Exam, and for Kaplan Qbank Supscriptions[/quote1023851558]

Did you call and find this out (before or after you sent them in?), or did they notify you after you sent them in? They received mine Friday, I was thinking about calling tomorrow.... Has anybody called yet?[/quote1023851558]


I sent in my certificates last thursday. I called them today. All of my 7 certificates were approved D

FreebieExpert

03-02-2009 17:31:05

They said that they were approved? thats great. congrats...i will give them a call tomorrow and see how my 17k came out

mjforever

03-02-2009 17:52:38

YES! Wow! 17k how did you get that much? WIsh i have 17k.

FreebieExpert

03-02-2009 18:08:10

I completed Brandarama sites.

tylerc

03-02-2009 18:40:20

He probably repeated offers. I completed 8 sites for $3,900 in gifts and even that was difficult to do. I don't know how many sites/offers you'd have to do for $17,000, unless you spread that out over about 5 years.

kwoodyk34k

03-02-2009 19:01:13

I did 14k and I never repeated any offers ever.
I just check for new offers a couple times per week.
Still do...

nic3456

03-02-2009 19:13:45

Companies are only required to send 1099's if you were paid more than $600 in a given year. Also it seems like with companies like ARG they don't combine all your gifts into 1 payment. You must report all income regardless of if you received a 1099. Consult irs.gov for details.

Either way you won't claim this on your 2008 taxes (that you will be filing over the next several weeks) you would claim it this time next year in your 2009 taxes.


[quote56316f4baf="mookieb2"]So with Brandarama not sending out 1099's (just got off the phone with them), when I claim the gifts I will do it as "other income" on my tax form?

The last thing I want is an audit based on $1,000 not claimed.

Also, in years past there was an ID number from them (there is also a number on the Ideal form) that shows who they are to the IRS, do I need to hunt and find that number from last years taxes or does it not matter because they don't seem to be filing on their end?



How can they do this? Not file? Seems they are on the tail end of their business life. (And I am one of the be postive people)[/quote56316f4baf]

beerman

03-02-2009 19:18:32

[quotee57ce16e83="nic3456"]Companies are only required to send 1099's if you were paid more than $600 in a given year. Also it seems like with companies like ARG they don't combine all your gifts into 1 payment. You must report all income regardless of if you received a 1099. Consult irs.gov for details.

Either way you won't claim this on your 2008 taxes (that you will be filing over the next several weeks) you would claim it this time next year in your 2009 taxes.


[quotee57ce16e83="mookieb2"]So with Brandarama not sending out 1099's (just got off the phone with them), when I claim the gifts I will do it as "other income" on my tax form?

The last thing I want is an audit based on $1,000 not claimed.

Also, in years past there was an ID number from them (there is also a number on the Ideal form) that shows who they are to the IRS, do I need to hunt and find that number from last years taxes or does it not matter because they don't seem to be filing on their end?



How can they do this? Not file? Seems they are on the tail end of their business life. (And I am one of the be postive people)[/quotee57ce16e83][/quotee57ce16e83]

we were talking about gifts received in 2008, so they would be claimed on your taxes now....

beerman

03-02-2009 19:20:31

[quote3fbc3b1f3c="mjforever"][quote3fbc3b1f3c="slambam"][quote3fbc3b1f3c="fbskiracer"]I was denied credit for my tuition bill (dated before Jan 26th) for my $2500 Education check, my National Board of Medicine Liscencing Exam, and for Kaplan Qbank Supscriptions[/quote3fbc3b1f3c]

Did you call and find this out (before or after you sent them in?), or did they notify you after you sent them in? They received mine Friday, I was thinking about calling tomorrow.... Has anybody called yet?[/quote3fbc3b1f3c]


I sent in my certificates last thursday. I called them today. All of my 7 certificates were approved D[/quote3fbc3b1f3c]

they have all mine too, but they never said the word "approved", they said they are "processed" and don't bug us for 8-10 weeks....

mookieb2

03-02-2009 20:07:55

Thanks for the response, but I received $1500 in gifts from them in 2008, I will be claiming them, I just wasn't sure about them not sending out 1099's. Was just checking to see what everyone else thought.


[quote2c93889912="nic3456"]Companies are only required to send 1099's if you were paid more than $600 in a given year. Also it seems like with companies like ARG they don't combine all your gifts into 1 payment. You must report all income regardless of if you received a 1099. Consult irs.gov for details.

Either way you won't claim this on your 2008 taxes (that you will be filing over the next several weeks) you would claim it this time next year in your 2009 taxes.


[quote2c93889912="mookieb2"]So with Brandarama not sending out 1099's (just got off the phone with them), when I claim the gifts I will do it as "other income" on my tax form?

The last thing I want is an audit based on $1,000 not claimed.

Also, in years past there was an ID number from them (there is also a number on the Ideal form) that shows who they are to the IRS, do I need to hunt and find that number from last years taxes or does it not matter because they don't seem to be filing on their end?



How can they do this? Not file? Seems they are on the tail end of their business life. (And I am one of the be postive people)[/quote2c93889912][/quote2c93889912]

Eeyore

03-02-2009 23:23:37

[quote228f8829e7="dmorris68"]Unless they do some "creative accounting" to hide it under some general, non-specific business expenses, I can't imagine why they'd forgo that sizable write-off, but I guess it must make business sense to them somehow.[/quote228f8829e7]
They are now purchasing the certificates from Mpell, which would be a run-of-the-mill business expense for tax purposes. It's probably a lot simpler for them rather than tracking all those W9s.

skooter22c

04-02-2009 05:00:16

it has to do with when you received the gift or payout, not when you where approved. They don't generate a 1099 until they send you money or buy a gift. So if they made this Deal with Mpell and "paid" Mpell before the end of '08 then they might send them out. But if this all went down in January then it will be for '09 taxes.

Stkfree1

04-02-2009 08:31:38

Can we send in a copy of the receipt, or do we need to send in the actual receipt?

wiebelhaus03

04-02-2009 08:33:35

just a copy is fine

DRay9911

04-02-2009 08:41:45

don't forget to get it notarized































just kidding D

-dan

manOFice

04-02-2009 11:02:55

I think I got $2000 in 2008 from brandarama, I've never filed without a 1099, how do I do that? Don't I need their information?

freeipodplayer

04-02-2009 12:48:51

[quotef0f246f8ec="manOFice"]I think I got $2000 in 2008 from brandarama, I've never filed without a 1099, how do I do that? Don't I need their information?[/quotef0f246f8ec]

You just need the name(active response group, inc.) and amount, if you have no 1099.

freeipodplayer

04-02-2009 12:51:26

[quoteb30faa75fc="mjforever"][quoteb30faa75fc="slambam"][quoteb30faa75fc="fbskiracer"]I was denied credit for my tuition bill (dated before Jan 26th) for my $2500 Education check, my National Board of Medicine Liscencing Exam, and for Kaplan Qbank Supscriptions[/quoteb30faa75fc]

Did you call and find this out (before or after you sent them in?), or did they notify you after you sent them in? They received mine Friday, I was thinking about calling tomorrow.... Has anybody called yet?[/quoteb30faa75fc]


I sent in my certificates last thursday. I called them today. All of my 7 certificates were approved D[/quoteb30faa75fc]

They got mine last friday.... Said to call back in a week.

manOFice

04-02-2009 13:36:41

[quotecd2dcc9026="freeipodplayer"][quotecd2dcc9026="manOFice"]I think I got $2000 in 2008 from brandarama, I've never filed without a 1099, how do I do that? Don't I need their information?[/quotecd2dcc9026]

You just need the name(active response group, inc.) and amount, if you have no 1099.[/quotecd2dcc9026]

thanks

Armstrong

04-02-2009 13:49:40

If anyone purchased AMEX Giftcards from AmericanExpress.com/giftcard can you please PM me for some private questions?

Karma will be given

slambam

04-02-2009 15:55:01

[quote3454f9c871="freeipodplayer"]

They got mine last friday.... Said to call back in a week.[/quote3454f9c871]

Yea I called today also, she said they had like 3 boxes full of letters! Very nice CS though, she was actually kinda laughing that they had so much work to do, and was very willing to look up my info to see if it had been processed yet.

oleus

04-02-2009 16:08:20

anyone had a delay in USPS priority shipping when sending to Mpell?

I sent mine with delivery confirmation last thursday and it's still not showing as delivered. it's an east coast-to-west coast delivery but i send USPS priority a lot and they usually get things anywhere in 3 business days tops.

fanofpurple

04-02-2009 16:11:54

[quoted42a8c7009="oleus"]anyone had a delay in USPS priority shipping when sending to Mpell?

I sent mine with delivery confirmation last thursday and it's still not showing as delivered. it's an east coast-to-west coast delivery but i send USPS priority a lot and they usually get things anywhere in 3 business days tops.[/quoted42a8c7009]

Same here - I sent 6 separate flat rate envelopes - all on the same day. 2 have been delivered - the other 4 are "processed" in San Diego.

cronerd

04-02-2009 16:18:21

ya I just called, mine was insured and she said the supervisor is going tomorrow to pick up anything at the post office

debo012004

04-02-2009 16:29:14

I sent my twenty in on friday and they were all received on monday. I just called and they said they were all approved.

FreeOffersNow

04-02-2009 17:08:23

All received. All approved.

"And now we play...the waiting game." - Family Guy

livingloud28

04-02-2009 17:19:46

I have 21 days to send my in got to figure out how I am going to get the loot .

tylerc

04-02-2009 17:47:00

They should have mine by the end of the week, I'll call next week at this time to see if my forms have been approved.

wiebelhaus03

04-02-2009 18:32:13

[quote51b46dde05="FreeOffersNow"]All received. All approved.

"And now we play...the waiting game." - Family Guy[/quote51b46dde05]

Thats the simpsons not family guy.....when homer starts his own business snow plowing

zr2152

04-02-2009 19:19:56

[quote74c95cca3b="wiebelhaus03"][quote74c95cca3b="FreeOffersNow"]All received. All approved.

"And now we play...the waiting game." - Family Guy[/quote74c95cca3b]

Thats the simpsons not family guy.....when homer starts his own business snow plowing[/quote74c95cca3b]

No.

[quote74c95cca3b] Jayna "...form of--Hawk! Come on, Peter!"
Peter "Okay, I'm coming. Form of--Jayna's tampon [goes in purse]. And now we play the waiting game."[/quote74c95cca3b]

http//www.familyguyquotes.com/characters/peter-griffin-quotes-10.html

Use your google skills.

ILoveToys

04-02-2009 19:23:16

pwned

chewy

04-02-2009 19:24:16

you're both right

beerman

04-02-2009 19:25:57

simpsons
http//tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WeWait

FreeOffersNow

04-02-2009 19:36:32

I was quoting Family Guy. I am aware could also be a Mr. Plow reference.

steveyankee

04-02-2009 19:51:50

[quote4b99a5766c="zr2152"][quote4b99a5766c="wiebelhaus03"][quote4b99a5766c="FreeOffersNow"]All received. All approved.

"And now we play...the waiting game." - Family Guy[/quote4b99a5766c]

Thats the simpsons not family guy.....when homer starts his own business snow plowing[/quote4b99a5766c]

No.

[quote4b99a5766c] Jayna "...form of--Hawk! Come on, Peter!"
Peter "Okay, I'm coming. Form of--Jayna's tampon [goes in purse]. And now we play the waiting game."[/quote4b99a5766c]

http//www.familyguyquotes.com/characters/peter-griffin-quotes-10.html

Use your google skills.[/quote4b99a5766c]

You shouldn't be talking, seeing as how your google "skills" suck. He was right, and with a good google skill, you would of saw that it too was a Simpsons quote.

So you're not one to tell others to use a skill that you don't even have.

dmorris68

04-02-2009 20:00:26

[quotebea4dceac3="Eeyore"][quotebea4dceac3="dmorris68"]Unless they do some "creative accounting" to hide it under some general, non-specific business expenses, I can't imagine why they'd forgo that sizable write-off, but I guess it must make business sense to them somehow.[/quotebea4dceac3]
They are now purchasing the certificates from Mpell, which would be a run-of-the-mill business expense for tax purposes. It's probably a lot simpler for them rather than tracking all those W9s.[/quotebea4dceac3]
I was under the impression (perhaps mistaken) that the person was talking about there being no 1099's for 2008 payouts.

The new MPell development does change the 2009 tax landscape for Brandarama, it would seem. In fact I wonder if that perhaps wasn't at least part of the consideration behind the change.

ploppsdman

04-02-2009 20:41:14

For anyone who purchased Key Bank gift cards, let me know if you were approved.

wiebelhaus03

04-02-2009 20:44:40

I wasn't using google skills, just memory haha sorry

zr2152

04-02-2009 21:02:23

[quote11a324d9df="steveyankee"][quote11a324d9df="zr2152"][quote11a324d9df="wiebelhaus03"][quote11a324d9df="FreeOffersNow"]All received. All approved.

"And now we play...the waiting game." - Family Guy[/quote11a324d9df]

Thats the simpsons not family guy.....when homer starts his own business snow plowing[/quote11a324d9df]

No.

[quote11a324d9df] Jayna "...form of--Hawk! Come on, Peter!"
Peter "Okay, I'm coming. Form of--Jayna's tampon [goes in purse]. And now we play the waiting game."[/quote11a324d9df]

http//www.familyguyquotes.com/characters/peter-griffin-quotes-10.html

Use your google skills.[/quote11a324d9df]

You shouldn't be talking, seeing as how your google "skills" suck. He was right, and with a good google skill, you would of saw that it too was a Simpsons quote.

So you're not one to tell others to use a skill that you don't even have.[/quote11a324d9df]

Man you must really hate me. lol.

Well i googled " And now we play the waiting game" family guy. Since I was only looking for those keywords, I did not search for the other quote.

So actually my google skills are good.

Eeyore

04-02-2009 21:10:15

[quotef701b7d5ff="dmorris68"]I was under the impression (perhaps mistaken) that the person was talking about there being no 1099's for 2008 payouts.

The new MPell development does change the 2009 tax landscape for Brandarama, it would seem. In fact I wonder if that perhaps wasn't at least part of the consideration behind the change.[/quotef701b7d5ff]Gifts paid out in 2008 would be subject to reporting. Whether they'll actually send the 1099 is anyone's guess. I suspect they're treating it as the previous regime's problem, meaning the current owner probably will blow it off. All of their payouts will be through Mpell.

MattMcQ

05-02-2009 05:48:07

[quotef0af012d02="ploppsdman"]For anyone who purchased Key Bank gift cards, let me know if you were approved.[/quotef0af012d02]


yes

RolltheStampede

05-02-2009 06:59:11

[quotedcdf355f62="zr2152"][quotedcdf355f62="steveyankee"][quotedcdf355f62="zr2152"][quotedcdf355f62="wiebelhaus03"][quotedcdf355f62="FreeOffersNow"]All received. All approved.

"And now we play...the waiting game." - Family Guy[/quotedcdf355f62]

Thats the simpsons not family guy.....when homer starts his own business snow plowing[/quotedcdf355f62]

No.

[quotedcdf355f62] Jayna "...form of--Hawk! Come on, Peter!"
Peter "Okay, I'm coming. Form of--Jayna's tampon [goes in purse]. And now we play the waiting game."[/quotedcdf355f62]

http//www.familyguyquotes.com/characters/peter-griffin-quotes-10.html

Use your google skills.[/quotedcdf355f62]

You shouldn't be talking, seeing as how your google "skills" suck. He was right, and with a good google skill, you would of saw that it too was a Simpsons quote.

So you're not one to tell others to use a skill that you don't even have.[/quotedcdf355f62]

Man you must really hate me. lol.

Well i googled " And now we play the waiting game" family guy. Since I was only looking for those keywords, I did not search for the other quote.

So actually my google skills are good.[/quotedcdf355f62]

"Eugoogly"

"and you can quote me on the quote unquote "

cny

05-02-2009 07:03:50

Do you blank out anything on your copy of id or do you send it as is?

tylerc

05-02-2009 07:32:58

I just sent it as is.

HYPE.

05-02-2009 08:42:33

Does the name on your receipt have to be the same name on the ID?

manOFice

05-02-2009 09:00:46

[quoteef27526c44="HYPE."]Does the name on your receipt have to be the same name on the ID?[/quoteef27526c44]

There is no names on the receipt usually

RolltheStampede

05-02-2009 09:22:32

depends if you have an account at the store and how you pay. i had my name pop up on one of mines.

Just black it out if its an issue

tylerc

05-02-2009 09:32:00

Mine showed up on Best Buy receipts since I have a Reward Zone account there.

desertwilite

05-02-2009 10:20:29

I bought 2 $500. visas from Chase Bank and they charged it as a cash advance (I used my cc for the purchase) That came to an extra $30. on top of the 7.00 fee for the 2 cards. Just lettin ya know.

chewy

05-02-2009 10:48:09

do they tell you in anyway they received the certs? can I call them and ask?

chewy

05-02-2009 10:55:20

[quoteda35b8bcb9="chewy"]do they tell you in anyway they received the certs? can I call them and ask?[/quoteda35b8bcb9]

nevermind. i just called and they said they havent received it yet. she also said they receive about 400 certificates a day shock

edgespeeder04

05-02-2009 11:50:22

well this sucks, you cant use an american express gift card to buy another visa gift card, already tried it and it didn't work.....decline payment......or maybe was it because it was an atm visa....anyone care to shed some advice?

RyanG

05-02-2009 11:56:39

[quotec4cec1a7d3="edgespeeder04"]well this sucks, you cant use an american express gift card to buy another visa gift card, already tried it and it didn't work.....decline payment......or maybe was it because it was an atm visa....anyone care to shed some advice?[/quotec4cec1a7d3]

can't use them for much, not bills or anything. kind of sucks.

mariners1999

05-02-2009 12:08:19

[quotea98af9c04d="edgespeeder04"]well this sucks, you cant use an american express gift card to buy another visa gift card, already tried it and it didn't work.....decline payment......or maybe was it because it was an atm visa....anyone care to shed some advice?[/quotea98af9c04d]

lol.... You and I are in the same boat.... I bought a 1k amex card and now I can not use it to buy a visa card anywhere. I should have just done the keybank trick for 500 plus prob $10 in fees you can get a card and take out 480 from their ATM.... So I am going to use the Amex to buy a 500 Costco gift card (use for groceries) and then buy a 500 Keybank Mastercard to finish my other 2 500 gift cards that I am due. (not trying to confuse but will just use 500 cash from my next paycheck to buy the keybank card.... the other 500 on the amex I will maybe use in a few months for a new stove)

M

imapepper

05-02-2009 14:17:32

I called today about 2 certificates I sent it....her words were received and approved and to wait 8-10 weeks. All she asked was for my first and last name.

manOFice

05-02-2009 14:21:33

yeah I'm approved and processed and waiting 8-10 weeks now

asdfasdf

05-02-2009 14:38:24

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

tylerc

05-02-2009 15:09:27

[quotebc1616d25a="chewy"][quotebc1616d25a="chewy"]do they tell you in anyway they received the certs? can I call them and ask?[/quotebc1616d25a]

nevermind. i just called and they said they havent received it yet. she also said they receive about 400 certificates a day shock[/quotebc1616d25a]

Holy shit. I wonder how much ARG actually paid MPell to handle all of this.

dubbin87

05-02-2009 15:24:17

[quote4eac2b3048="tylerc"][quote4eac2b3048="chewy"][quote4eac2b3048="chewy"]do they tell you in anyway they received the certs? can I call them and ask?[/quote4eac2b3048]

nevermind. i just called and they said they havent received it yet. she also said they receive about 400 certificates a day shock[/quote4eac2b3048]

Holy shit. I wonder how much ARG actually paid MPell to handle all of this.[/quote4eac2b3048]

I'd really love to see the numbers of how many certs went out to how many are coming back in.

Eeyore

05-02-2009 16:17:44

[quote5719f96034="tylerc"]Holy shit. I wonder how much ARG actually paid MPell to handle all of this.[/quote5719f96034]
ARG is not their only customer.

benedict

05-02-2009 16:36:06

[quote35ca86ad32="chewy"][quote35ca86ad32="chewy"]do they tell you in anyway they received the certs? can I call them and ask?[/quote35ca86ad32]

nevermind. i just called and they said they havent received it yet. she also said they receive about 400 certificates a day shock[/quote35ca86ad32]

i got the same response as well. lady picked up after one ring though. she told me call back in a week.

freeipodplayer

05-02-2009 17:11:15

[quotef587e71eff="benedict"][quotef587e71eff="chewy"][quotef587e71eff="chewy"]do they tell you in anyway they received the certs? can I call them and ask?[/quotef587e71eff]

nevermind. i just called and they said they havent received it yet. she also said they receive about 400 certificates a day shock[/quotef587e71eff]

i got the same response as well. lady picked up after one ring though. she told me call back in a week.[/quotef587e71eff]

said the same to me. day later. all approved. Now I just need to send out my other lot of certs. LOL

benedict

05-02-2009 17:34:04

guess i will call them up again tomorrow ;)

ploppsdman

05-02-2009 18:52:52

For anyone who purchased Key Bank gift cards, let me know if you were approved.


yes


Thanks ...

oleus

05-02-2009 18:53:21

my USPS delivery confirmation must have never been scanned, because Mpell says they have my certificate for my first item and it's all approved!

second certificate is on the way to them, my other three will probably be going out a few days before the 30 day deadline. i'm glad i had some relatively big purchases i needed to make anyway for all of this, otherwise i doubt i would have risked it. i'm really really hoping 8-10 weeks means 8-10 weeks.

doylnea

05-02-2009 19:24:23

[quote1e4145e77c="ploppsdman"]Can someone tell me how to quote correctly? Im tired of not seeing the appropriate quote boxes.[/quote1e4145e77c]

I changed a setting in your profile. Trying quoting this post...

ploppsdman

05-02-2009 19:30:55

[quote7507fefed4="doylnea"][quote7507fefed4="ploppsdman"]Can someone tell me how to quote correctly? Im tired of not seeing the appropriate quote boxes.[/quote7507fefed4]

I changed a setting in your profile. Trying quoting this post...[/quote7507fefed4]

Test ... if it works or not, thanks.

Yep, working now ... thanks ...

freeipodplayer

05-02-2009 20:15:29

Anybody know if somehow we won't be taxed on this because it is a "rebate" rather than a gift???

Mpell does NOT send 1099's.

FreebieExpert

05-02-2009 20:20:12

I dont care what its considered, im not reporting squat, the irs can suck my ballsack. now so the mods dont go bananas again, im not advising anyone do this, just stating what my opinion was.

SkatingCrippled

05-02-2009 20:22:45

[quoted7b44865e9="FreebieExpert"]I dont care what its considered, im not reporting squat, the irs can suck my ballsack. now so the mods dont go bananas again, im not advising anyone do this, just stating what my opinion was.[/quoted7b44865e9]
B&

EatChex89

05-02-2009 21:39:13

I tried to call the 1-800 # on the certs to ask some questions, but it was a busy signal. Any other number to call or do I just keep trying till I get thru?

TravMan162

05-02-2009 22:00:03

[quoteac585c26fc="FreebieExpert"]I dont care what its considered, im not reporting squat, the irs can suck my ballsack. now so the mods dont go bananas again, im not advising anyone do this, just stating what my opinion was.[/quoteac585c26fc]
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/685e35c61924e0f1d4b29b986dcdeba8.gif[" alt=""/imgac585c26fc]

freeipodplayer

05-02-2009 22:30:02

[quote59398bdb76="FreebieExpert"]I dont care what its considered, im not reporting squat, the irs can suck my ballsack. now so the mods dont go bananas again, im not advising anyone do this, just stating what my opinion was.[/quote59398bdb76]

definitely not a freebie expert.

EatChex89

05-02-2009 23:13:07

[quotee9001cc1fd="freeipodplayer"][quotee9001cc1fd="FreebieExpert"]I dont care what its considered, im not reporting squat, the irs can suck my ballsack. now so the mods dont go bananas again, im not advising anyone do this, just stating what my opinion was.[/quotee9001cc1fd]

definitely not a freebie expert.[/quotee9001cc1fd]

It's only a crime if you get caught.

DRay9911

06-02-2009 05:39:24

i'm pretty sure if my sister called mpell, they would say they received her certificates and was approved....even though she didn't send anything in.

any chance one of the admins can change this clown's name to FraudExpert?

-dan


[quote7d5b3f8215="FreebieExpert"]I dont care what its considered, im not reporting squat, the irs can suck my ballsack. now so the mods dont go bananas again, im not advising anyone do this, just stating what my opinion was.[/quote7d5b3f8215]

mistertomlinson

06-02-2009 06:05:07

I has to file tax papers on my presents?!

doylnea

06-02-2009 06:30:32

[quote705e06365b="EatChex89"]I tried to call the 1-800 # on the certs to ask some questions, but it was a busy signal. Any other number to call or do I just keep trying till I get thru?[/quote705e06365b]

Probably try at a time other than 1230am.

chewy

06-02-2009 11:18:45

i called back today and they said they received my cert and it was processed and approved! glad I didnt spend extra to do delivery confirmation($5 bucks saved)

Eeyore

06-02-2009 11:37:37

[quote203be829e7="chewy"]i called back today and they said they received my cert and it was processed and approved![/quote203be829e7]I think they're just telling everyone who calls that to get them off the phone. Something about it just does not add up...

chewy

06-02-2009 11:44:12

[quote9098d09499="Eeyore"][quote9098d09499="chewy"]i called back today and they said they received my cert and it was processed and approved![/quote9098d09499]I think they're just telling everyone who calls that to get them off the phone. Something about it just does not add up...[/quote9098d09499]


maybe, but i doubt it

potsey2007

06-02-2009 11:48:17

[quote591ae0f495="Eeyore"][quote591ae0f495="chewy"]i called back today and they said they received my cert and it was processed and approved![/quote591ae0f495]I think they're just telling everyone who calls that to get them off the phone. Something about it just does not add up...[/quote591ae0f495]

I sent 4 certificates total in 2 letters and they said they have only processed 2 of them so I think they are looking them up

ashilef

06-02-2009 12:01:14

[quote141b87dbb4="chewy"]i called back today and they said they received my cert and it was processed and approved! glad I didnt spend extra to do delivery confirmation($5 bucks saved)[/quote141b87dbb4]

You sent yours regular snail mail? How long ago? I sent mine with just a stamp on Monday. I'm not going to call until next Friday sometime. I figure they're getting a ton of these, give them a chance to actually process my certs.

Eeyore

06-02-2009 12:20:42

[quote6cf0275ad3="potsey2007"]I sent 4 certificates total in 2 letters and they said they have only processed 2 of them so I think they are looking them up[/quote6cf0275ad3]OK, thank you for the first person account. It just seemed a little fishy that everyone was getting the same response. I suppose having done these things for long enough I'm getting jaded. From here forward I will instead marvel at Mpell's efficiency.

imapepper

06-02-2009 13:36:55

Someone got hit with the sarcasm stick.

dubbin87

06-02-2009 13:46:13

w00t! all accounts approved. woot

HYPE.

06-02-2009 15:39:09

[quote9f8c8ada4c="RolltheStampede"]depends if you have an account at the store and how you pay. i had my name pop up on one of mines.

Just black it out if its an issue[/quote9f8c8ada4c]

That's what I was going to do, but I'm leaving for vacation next Friday and won't be back til after my deadline, and if it doesn't get approved I won't have enough time to send in another one. By the way, could this pay for more than 1 item, or is it just 1?

neverendingmoolah

06-02-2009 16:15:57

[quote2e6c9bf80e="desertwilite"]I bought 2 $500. visas from Chase Bank and they charged it as a cash advance (I used my cc for the purchase) That came to an extra $30. on top of the 7.00 fee for the 2 cards. Just lettin ya know.[/quote2e6c9bf80e]

I paid almost $20 bucks in fees for 5 visa cards. The cost was $3.95 each at Sun Trust Bank. My name was printed on the recipt since the funds were drawn from my checking account. I just went in and got the teller to process the gift cards for me. This was actually cheaper than doing it on line. There is an additional fee per transaction online. Once we get reimbursed from Mpell, I will only be out the $20 fee.

desertwilite

06-02-2009 16:25:59

[quote1262012b61="neverendingmoolah"][quote1262012b61="desertwilite"]I bought 2 $500. visas from Chase Bank and they charged it as a cash advance (I used my cc for the purchase) That came to an extra $30. on top of the 7.00 fee for the 2 cards. Just lettin ya know.[/quote1262012b61]

I paid almost $20 bucks in fees for 5 visa cards. The cost was $3.95 each at Sun Trust Bank. My name was printed on the recipt since the funds were drawn from my checking account. I just went in and got the teller to process the gift cards for me. This was actually cheaper than doing it on line. There is an additional fee per transaction online. Once we get reimbursed from Mpell, I will only be out the $20 fee.[/quote1262012b61]

I made the mistake of using my credit card to pay for the visas. That's where
the extra charge came from. I'm going back and buying some more with my checking account this time!

FreeOffersNow

06-02-2009 17:32:40

Mine were sent snail mail, and cost me a total of 5 forever stamps. Also, for the skeptics...the representative stated the total number of certificates (5) that were processed and approved. I find it unlikely that they'd be telling "everyone" they were approved just to get them off the phone...I think we're just seeing that a) the USPS generally doesn't lose your mail, and b) MPell means business.

FreebieExpert

06-02-2009 17:38:59

i think they'll mean business for about another month until they start seeing their checking account going down the tubes, and credit cards reaching 200k dollars balance

benedict

06-02-2009 18:20:25

called again today and they said 3/5 was received and approved. I will probably call back in a couple of days to check if they received the other 2 certificates. the cs said that the other 2 will likely be processed and approved today. =)

Eeyore

06-02-2009 18:21:04

[quoteb969abdeab="FreebieExpert"]i think they'll mean business for about another month until they start seeing their checking account going down the tubes, and credit cards reaching 200k dollars balance[/quoteb969abdeab]
For an "expert" you certainly have a tenuous grasp of how these fulfillment companies work.

And thank you 'FreeOffersNow' for another hard data point. I am no longer concerned.

EatChex89

06-02-2009 21:17:23

[quote4661e7ceb0="doylnea"][quote4661e7ceb0="EatChex89"]I tried to call the 1-800 # on the certs to ask some questions, but it was a busy signal. Any other number to call or do I just keep trying till I get thru?[/quote4661e7ceb0]

Probably try at a time other than 1230am.[/quote4661e7ceb0]

I had actually called in the afternoon during normal business hours. It might have been 11a or around 12. I can't remember exactly.

I will just try again on my lunch break tomorrow.

ashilef

06-02-2009 21:28:23

[quote0e0063b84f="FreeOffersNow"]Mine were sent snail mail, and cost me a total of 5 forever stamps. Also, for the skeptics...the representative stated the total number of certificates (5) that were processed and approved. I find it unlikely that they'd be telling "everyone" they were approved just to get them off the phone...I think we're just seeing that a) the USPS generally doesn't lose your mail, and b) MPell means business.[/quote0e0063b84f]

Sounds good! Maybe I'll give them a call sooner than next Friday. It only takes letters mailed from WA 3 days to get down there anyway. Who knows maybe I was already processed.

mistertomlinson

06-02-2009 23:44:04

[quote60084d07eb="FreebieExpert"]i think they'll mean business for about another month until they start seeing their checking account going down the tubes, and credit cards reaching 200k dollars balance[/quote60084d07eb]

$200,000 my ass?1 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




































































HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAPLABBERHAHAHAHAHAHA1HAHA

beammeup4

07-02-2009 00:55:27

I've been a member of these boards for a long time and have been waiting for a number of Brandarama gifts like you for what seems like just as long.

I was a little disappointed when I received a couple letters from Brandarama/Mpell, but was surprised they're finally making what seems like an effort to fulfill their end of the promotion.

After much thinking and debating, I went ahead and made the purchases - 2 Visa All-Access reloadable gift cards, one for each gift I'm entitled to. This should, and better be, an acceptable and legal purchase as one of my gifts was supposed to be an AmEx gift card. I went ahead and filled out the forms, photocopied everything I needed, and mailed off the forms certified mail on Wednesday. Since they only had to travel from L.A. to Encinitas which is about a 2 hour drive, they arrived yesterday.

I'll keep you guys posted on what happens. If all goes well, I should be receiving a check for $500 and a check for $820 in the near future. It was a huge purchase, but with the All-Access card, I'm able to withdraw from an ATM if necessary.

dubbin87

07-02-2009 01:20:56

[quotec61caab615="beammeup4"]I've been a member of these boards for a long time and have been waiting for a number of Brandarama gifts like you for what seems like just as long.

I was a little disappointed when I received a couple letters from Brandarama/Mpell, but was surprised they're finally making what seems like an effort to fulfill their end of the promotion.

After much thinking and debating, I went ahead and made the purchases - 2 Visa All-Access reloadable gift cards, one for each gift I'm entitled to. This should, and better be, an acceptable and legal purchase as one of my gifts was supposed to be an AmEx gift card. I went ahead and filled out the forms, photocopied everything I needed, and mailed off the forms certified mail on Wednesday. Since they only had to travel from L.A. to Encinitas which is about a 2 hour drive, they arrived yesterday.

I'll keep you guys posted on what happens. If all goes well, I should be receiving a check for $500 and a check for $820 in the near future. It was a huge purchase, but with the All-Access card, I'm able to withdraw from an ATM if necessary.[/quotec61caab615]

Hey thanks for the update, man we were all worried about you. Be sure to keep us updated on your situation.

beammeup4

07-02-2009 02:29:24

worried about me? haha, I appreciate the concern! Ever since I got my last gift in April 2008 from i-deal and somehow got disqualified from every single one of their sites, my options have severely decreased so I haven't been frequenting the boards very often...until the Brandarama situation arose! shock

[quote1cadb8720f="dubbin87"][quote1cadb8720f="beammeup4"]I've been a member of these boards for a long time and have been waiting for a number of Brandarama gifts like you for what seems like just as long.

I was a little disappointed when I received a couple letters from Brandarama/Mpell, but was surprised they're finally making what seems like an effort to fulfill their end of the promotion.

After much thinking and debating, I went ahead and made the purchases - 2 Visa All-Access reloadable gift cards, one for each gift I'm entitled to. This should, and better be, an acceptable and legal purchase as one of my gifts was supposed to be an AmEx gift card. I went ahead and filled out the forms, photocopied everything I needed, and mailed off the forms certified mail on Wednesday. Since they only had to travel from L.A. to Encinitas which is about a 2 hour drive, they arrived yesterday.

I'll keep you guys posted on what happens. If all goes well, I should be receiving a check for $500 and a check for $820 in the near future. It was a huge purchase, but with the All-Access card, I'm able to withdraw from an ATM if necessary.[/quote1cadb8720f]

Hey thanks for the update, man we were all worried about you. Be sure to keep us updated on your situation.[/quote1cadb8720f]

oleus

07-02-2009 08:33:52

Amex is taking forever to ship the second GC i ordered from them. I need that for one of my MPell certificates and to go buy a nice laptop ASAP!

i still put the odds of receiving any of these refunds in 8-10 weeks at 50/50. i know these forums aren't necessarily a good sample of the general population but it seems to me like more people are taking them up on this offer than they were initially banking on. and it's not like the economy got any more stable over the last few weeks, stimulus bill or not....

oleus

wiebelhaus03

07-02-2009 08:50:08

haha some people just don't understand sarcasm

dubbin87

07-02-2009 10:11:14

[quoteda793e763b="wiebelhaus03"]haha some people just don't understand sarcasm[/quoteda793e763b] cheer

favored

07-02-2009 12:23:22

[quotea84e192f1c="oleus"]Amex is taking forever to ship the second GC i ordered from them. I need that for one of my MPell certificates and to go buy a nice laptop ASAP!

i still put the odds of receiving any of these refunds in 8-10 weeks at 50/50. i know these forums aren't necessarily a good sample of the general population but it seems to me like more people are taking them up on this offer than they were initially banking on. and it's not like the economy got any more stable over the last few weeks, stimulus bill or not....

oleus[/quotea84e192f1c]

Why do you need the gift card to send off your forms? I printed out the order confirmation I received when I ordered my visa and sent it in a week before getting the actual card, and they said mine were all processed and approved.

cannmj

07-02-2009 12:57:24

Has anyone recently completed any new Brandarama sites? I just sent my redemption forms to Brandarama -- I wonder how long it will take for me to receive forms from Mpell to start that process. Any ideas??

fanofpurple

07-02-2009 13:03:55

[quote7c2cddf463="cannmj"]Has anyone recently completed any new Brandarama sites? I just sent my redemption forms to Brandarama -- I wonder how long it will take for me to receive forms from Mpell to start that process. Any ideas??[/quote7c2cddf463]

I'd be interested in knowing that too. I may consider doing some more brandy sites if these work out.

lunchclerk

07-02-2009 13:57:43

I have been working on a brandarama site for a couple weeks. I never received credit for Pain Vanish so I did the site 1-12 as a replacement.
Haven't received credit for it yet either. I am wondering if they are not giving credit as easily as before. Please keep us posted. Thanks.

cannmj

07-02-2009 19:16:30

I was surprised at crediting -- most of mine credited immediately. I think that is a huge improvement from my past experiences with crediting. Pain Vanish never credited for me at all.

kinneylamb

08-02-2009 02:58:57

[quoteb53d127308="mariners1999"][quoteb53d127308="edgespeeder04"]well this sucks, you cant use an american express gift card to buy another visa gift card, already tried it and it didn't work.....decline payment......or maybe was it because it was an atm visa....anyone care to shed some advice?[/quoteb53d127308]

lol.... You and I are in the same boat.... I bought a 1k amex card and now I can not use it to buy a visa card anywhere. I should have just done the keybank trick for 500 plus prob $10 in fees you can get a card and take out 480 from their ATM.... So I am going to use the Amex to buy a 500 Costco gift card (use for groceries) and then buy a 500 Keybank Mastercard to finish my other 2 500 gift cards that I am due. (not trying to confuse but will just use 500 cash from my next paycheck to buy the keybank card.... the other 500 on the amex I will maybe use in a few months for a new stove)

M[/quoteb53d127308]

i think i got it. did you forget to register your amex gift cards with your information (name, address, etc.)? are you trying to buy the visa gift card online? that could be the problem. if you register your amex gc with your info, then it will be fine, unless the merchant online does not accept amex as a payment. let us know!

klangy

08-02-2009 05:36:15

[quote0c3005e893="lunchclerk"]I have been working on a brandarama site for a couple weeks. I never received credit for Pain Vanish so I did the site 1-12 as a replacement.
Haven't received credit for it yet either. I am wondering if they are not giving credit as easily as before. Please keep us posted. Thanks.[/quote0c3005e893]

I too am working on another Brandarama site and did Pain Vanish and no credit yet. What offers have you done besides 12 in 1 that have credited for you. If you need to, you can PM me.
Thanks

SkatingCrippled

08-02-2009 07:18:26

[quotec154bddcb0="klangy"][quotec154bddcb0="lunchclerk"]I have been working on a brandarama site for a couple weeks. I never received credit for Pain Vanish so I did the site 1-12 as a replacement.
Haven't received credit for it yet either. I am wondering if they are not giving credit as easily as before. Please keep us posted. Thanks.[/quotec154bddcb0]

I too am working on another Brandarama site and did Pain Vanish and no credit yet. What offers have you done besides 12 in 1 that have credited for you. If you need to, you can PM me.
Thanks[/quotec154bddcb0]

Or you could just sign up for offers that you're interested in.

Quadracer89

08-02-2009 07:54:11

can someone please explain this Mpell thing to me?? It sounds like all you guys are just buying expensive things (even visa's and amex??) and just sending in your receipt and getting bank back?!

I have to be misunderstanding this or something..

ILoveToys

08-02-2009 08:09:07

[quote48074107fe="Quadracer89"]can someone please explain this Mpell thing to me?? It sounds like all you guys are just buying expensive things (even visa's and amex??) and just sending in your receipt and getting bank back?!

I have to be misunderstanding this or something..[/quote48074107fe]

You understand it pretty well from the sounds of it.

Quadracer89

08-02-2009 08:29:00

[quotefdedef0a2a="ILoveToys"][quotefdedef0a2a="Quadracer89"]can someone please explain this Mpell thing to me?? It sounds like all you guys are just buying expensive things (even visa's and amex??) and just sending in your receipt and getting bank back?!

I have to be misunderstanding this or something..[/quotefdedef0a2a]

You understand it pretty well from the sounds of it.[/quotefdedef0a2a]

Soooo.. Theirs no signing up for a website? No offers to be completed? No refs? No nothing? If thats the case, ill go out and buy $1000 GC, send in the receipt and just withdraw the GC from the ATM??

Where would I send the receipt into??

ILoveToys

08-02-2009 09:14:17

You idiot...You first have to complete a site with offers from brandarama. Then instead of brandarama sending you the gift you get this thing from mpell to reimburse you for the gift after you go out and buy it yourself.

cronerd

08-02-2009 09:46:46

[quote6357ad9249="ILoveToys"]You idiot...You first have to complete a site with offers from brandarama. Then instead of brandarama sending you the gift you get this thing from mpell to reimburse you for the gift after you go out and buy it yourself.[/quote6357ad9249]
tell him, it says he joined in 2005 yet he sounds like he has no clue how brandarama works

Quadracer89

08-02-2009 11:40:15

[quote9f7f722d65="cronerd"][quote9f7f722d65="ILoveToys"]You idiot...You first have to complete a site with offers from brandarama. Then instead of brandarama sending you the gift you get this thing from mpell to reimburse you for the gift after you go out and buy it yourself.[/quote9f7f722d65]
tell him, it says he joined in 2005 yet he sounds like he has no clue how brandarama works[/quote9f7f722d65]

I dont have a clue how it works. Yes i joined in 05, but unlike you losers I have a real life and dont spend every hour of my day posting on Fipg roll

Thank you for the attitude

viperklt21

08-02-2009 12:12:23

[quote656c533ed2="Quadracer89"][quote656c533ed2="cronerd"][quote656c533ed2="ILoveToys"]You idiot...You first have to complete a site with offers from brandarama. Then instead of brandarama sending you the gift you get this thing from mpell to reimburse you for the gift after you go out and buy it yourself.[/quote656c533ed2]
tell him, it says he joined in 2005 yet he sounds like he has no clue how brandarama works[/quote656c533ed2]

I dont have a clue how it works. Yes i joined in 05, but unlike you losers I have a real life and dont spend every hour of my day posting on Fipg roll

Thank you for the attitude[/quote656c533ed2]

I post here rarely, and I still know what is going on.

tylerc

08-02-2009 12:20:36

[quoteff2b62dc16="Quadracer89"][quoteff2b62dc16="cronerd"][quoteff2b62dc16="ILoveToys"]You idiot...You first have to complete a site with offers from brandarama. Then instead of brandarama sending you the gift you get this thing from mpell to reimburse you for the gift after you go out and buy it yourself.[/quoteff2b62dc16]
tell him, it says he joined in 2005 yet he sounds like he has no clue how brandarama works[/quoteff2b62dc16]

I dont have a clue how it works. Yes i joined in 05, but unlike you losers I have a real life and dont spend every hour of my day posting on Fipg roll

Thank you for the attitude[/quoteff2b62dc16]

That's a good way to get some help.

What exactly do you do that makes you such a bad ass?

sUrface1080

08-02-2009 14:29:55

I have a gift cert that is worth $500 that Im supposed to get from BR. Can I buy a item for $550 and send in that receipt and I will get a check for $500, is that right?

dubbin87

08-02-2009 14:45:14

[quoteda6ab45e52="sUrface1080"]I have a gift cert that is worth $500 that Im supposed to get from BR. Can I buy a item for $550 and send in that receipt and I will get a check for $500, is that right?[/quoteda6ab45e52]

yeah, same deal if you spent $900 on a $825 cert.

shock

didn't did do be do be doo

bruman

08-02-2009 16:58:37

Here's another MPELL RipOffReport rebuttal, dated a couple days ago

[quote32897e6303]"False Accusation of Mpell Solutions

Mpell Solutions is a BBB accredited company with an A rating. We are a fulfillment company which simply means we ship products for our customers.

In every case, our clients are responsible for all advertising and offer eligibility, we are not, and we have no control over their actions. Our clients, Brandarama in this case, pay us a fee to ship products to their consumers according to their instructions. Mpell mails a check to the consumer when the certificate redemption instructions, created by our client, are met. The offer is financed by the company who made that offer, not us, and they only finance redemptions that meet the criteria they established.

We are in no way responsible for any of the issues described in this complaint. In fact, we take offense at even being mentioned. It is akin to blaming UPS if you are unsatisfied with a product purchased at Amazon. Or thinking the Post Office should cut a check for a cell phone rebate that was declined by your carrier.

We truly understand and sympathize with the complaints being posted. In hindsight, our mistake was accepting this type of business. We respectfully ask that you don't shoot the messenger, we're doing our best in the limited role that we have."[/quote32897e6303]

Sounds like mpell doesn't want much to do with ARG, I wonder if the claim that all future gifts will be fulfilled by them will turn out true.

source http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/419/RipOff0419139.htm

ILoveToys

08-02-2009 17:18:07

I think they'll be fine after this initial couple of months. My guess is they'll stick w/ ARG, but you'd have to expect some of this to go on when we have waited as long as we have for some gifts, and then they top it off with having to front the money.

slambam

08-02-2009 17:43:53

Yea no doubt. And I'm sure ARG will pay them enough to keep them around, as long as Brandarama saves money through this initial process, and ARG makes money through it. I've really only seen a couple complaints about them online, although I'm sure they heard there fair share of complaints when the letters were first mailed out.

ploppsdman

08-02-2009 18:15:58

Is it possible to leave this thread open to questions/answers about this procedure and leave the conjecture and insults in the ideal thread--since I can't do anything with ideal.

Bottom line, if Mpell is legitimate and we get the awards, we will all go back for another round with Brandarama and Im guessing we'll have plenty of time then to complain some more.

Questions --- Answers --- Updates. If what you are writing doesn't fall under these categories, please, go to the ideal thread!

dubbin87

08-02-2009 18:26:24

[quoteef6cda7716="ploppsdman"]Is it possible to leave this thread open to questions/answers about this procedure and leave the conjecture and insults in the ideal thread--since I can't do anything with ideal.

Bottom line, if Mpell is legitimate and we get the awards, we will all go back for another round with Brandarama and Im guessing we'll have plenty of time then to complain some more.

Questions --- Answers --- Updates. If what you are writing doesn't fall under these categories, please, go to the ideal thread![/quoteef6cda7716]Little late for that... ?

ashilef

08-02-2009 19:15:05

[quote2fe7d13d8f="Quadracer89"][quote2fe7d13d8f="cronerd"][quote2fe7d13d8f="ILoveToys"]You idiot...You first have to complete a site with offers from brandarama. Then instead of brandarama sending you the gift you get this thing from mpell to reimburse you for the gift after you go out and buy it yourself.[/quote2fe7d13d8f]
tell him, it says he joined in 2005 yet he sounds like he has no clue how brandarama works[/quote2fe7d13d8f]

I dont have a clue how it works. Yes i joined in 05, but unlike you losers I have a real life and dont spend every hour of my day posting on Fipg roll

Thank you for the attitude[/quote2fe7d13d8f]

Some one's butthurt roll

ILoveToys

08-02-2009 19:22:15

[quote35a3f4c80f="ploppsdman"]Is it possible to leave this thread open to questions/answers about this procedure and leave the conjecture and insults in the ideal thread--since I can't do anything with ideal.

Bottom line, if Mpell is legitimate and we get the awards, we will all go back for another round with Brandarama and Im guessing we'll have plenty of time then to complain some more.

Questions --- Answers --- Updates. If what you are writing doesn't fall under these categories, please, go to the ideal thread![/quote35a3f4c80f]


[u35a3f4c80f]Category - Questions[/u35a3f4c80f]
Why can't you do ideal anymore?

TravMan162

08-02-2009 19:27:59

I give FiPG credit, it holds itself to higher standard than most regular internet forums as flaming is never usually tolerated, but sometimes people get really rude for really no reason.

Guess you can't completely stop it........

doylnea

08-02-2009 19:55:55

listen jerks.

stop being jerks!

much love.

(or we'll lock the thread and or forum).

mistertomlinson

09-02-2009 01:29:12

[quote2bdbaf4081="TravMan162"]I give FiPG credit, it holds itself to higher standard than most regular internet forums as flaming is never usually tolerated, but sometimes people get really rude for really no reason.

Guess you can't completely stop it........[/quote2bdbaf4081]

Really rude for no reason? REALLY RUDE FOR NO REASON?! I HATE YOU TRAVMAN162!!! What does 162 even mean anyway?! You go to hell... you go to hell right now! You've got some nerve comin' 'round here and sayin' shit like that. I can't believe the nerve you got. Don't nobody argue here for nothin... you definitely had this comin to you. Jesus didn't die on the cross so I'd have to listen to you belly ache!




EDIT I hope to god nobody took that seriously.

SkatingCrippled

09-02-2009 05:41:06

[quote32310b8415="mistertomlinson"][quote32310b8415="TravMan162"]I give FiPG credit, it holds itself to higher standard than most regular internet forums as flaming is never usually tolerated, but sometimes people get really rude for really no reason.

Guess you can't completely stop it........[/quote32310b8415]

Really rude for no reason? REALLY RUDE FOR NO REASON?! I HATE YOU TRAVMAN162!!! What does 162 even mean anyway?! You go to hell... you go to hell right now! You've got some nerve comin' 'round here and sayin' shit like that. I can't believe the nerve you got. Don't nobody argue here for nothin... you definitely had this comin to you. Jesus didn't die on the cross so I'd have to listen to you belly ache!




EDIT I hope to god nobody took that seriously.[/quote32310b8415]
You know that somebody did.

TravMan162

09-02-2009 07:24:33

ouch. my feelings (

oleus

09-02-2009 07:29:21

i just sent in my thurs MPELL certificate and will be mailing my 4th and final 5th certificate by the end of the week. whenever it's confirmed as delivered next week, i am going to ask them if they still think they will be able to send the refunds in 8-10 weeks. they seem honest so far, hopefully they'll be honest about the chances of a timely fulfillment/refund.

tylerc

09-02-2009 12:37:38

Other people have called to confirm their certificates have been received and they have said yes and to wait 8-10 weeks.

zr2152

09-02-2009 12:47:42

[quote0906f57820="tylerc"]Other people have called to confirm their certificates have been received and they have said yes and to wait 8-10 weeks.[/quote0906f57820]

Exactly. This is what this board is for. Some people will call and they can update everyone. There is no reason for everyone to call and ask how long they will ship out. I can understand the call for confirmation though.

JANGALANG32

09-02-2009 14:10:57

whats mpells # again?

has anyone not recieved their certificates yet?

ghounds07

09-02-2009 14:43:40

http//letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=mpell+solutions

favored

09-02-2009 15:58:04

[quote6768f0cd4b="JANGALANG32"]whats mpells # again?

has anyone not recieved their certificates yet?[/quote6768f0cd4b]

(800) 450-1575

bennyboy5768

09-02-2009 16:01:41

If anyone cares I mailed my certificates today.

steveyankee

09-02-2009 16:04:13

I care sexy.

kwoodyk34k

09-02-2009 16:07:38

Alright folks.

After several e-mails back and forth with MPell about how ridiculous it is that I have to front all the money in 30 days they said that they would have their manager talk to ARG.

Today I received a call from a customer service agent at YourTopBrands (not Kim) offering a whopping 20% of the total value of all the certificates I can't fulfill in a check issued from them.

I declined. But if any of you absolutely have no other options, perhaps if you ask MPell nicely they can make ARG give you 20%

Again, ask MPELL, not ARG.

tylerc

09-02-2009 16:13:49

20%?!!?

That's fucking absurd.

manOFice

09-02-2009 16:27:27

[quote316376a537="tylerc"]20%?!!?

That's fucking absurd.[/quote316376a537]

20% is a smack in the face, lol

heather77

09-02-2009 16:56:39

That's probably what they're paying Mpell!

dubbin87

09-02-2009 17:30:12

[quote42bed2c24c="manOFice"][quote42bed2c24c="tylerc"]20%?!!?

That's fucking absurd.[/quote42bed2c24c]

20% is a smack in the face, lol[/quote42bed2c24c]
I would have atleast asked for a reach around if I was going to get F-ed in the A like that.... shock

steveyankee

09-02-2009 17:56:31

[quote37d436fa53="heather77"]That's probably what they're paying Mpell![/quote37d436fa53]

I wouldn't doubt it. (

haloplaya24

09-02-2009 19:23:46

Still tryin to figure this out...... Why did I just receive the actual $500 sears, and at the same time, everyone is having to go through the hassle of prebuying and rebating!@?!?!?!?!


Someone please help me out here...... i believe mine was householdsavingsclub.... Whats the deal?

tylerc

09-02-2009 20:31:16

Are you complaining?

bayarea05

09-02-2009 22:09:58

[quote5926dc3d07="haloplaya24"]Still tryin to figure this out...... Why did I just receive the actual $500 sears, and at the same time, everyone is having to go through the hassle of prebuying and rebating!@?!?!?!?!


Someone please help me out here...... i believe mine was householdsavingsclub.... Whats the deal?[/quote5926dc3d07]


the question is....are u mad?

bayarea05

09-02-2009 22:11:31

[quote9341abc156="Quadracer89"][quote9341abc156="ILoveToys"][quote9341abc156="Quadracer89"]can someone please explain this Mpell thing to me?? It sounds like all you guys are just buying expensive things (even visa's and amex??) and just sending in your receipt and getting bank back?!

I have to be misunderstanding this or something..[/quote9341abc156]

You understand it pretty well from the sounds of it.[/quote9341abc156]

Soooo.. Theirs no signing up for a website? No offers to be completed? No refs? No nothing? If thats the case, ill go out and buy $1000 GC, send in the receipt and just withdraw the GC from the ATM??

Where would I send the receipt into??[/quote9341abc156]


Go back to your section. This IS DIY

ashilef

09-02-2009 23:00:45

[quotecbba9e3299="haloplaya24"]Still tryin to figure this out...... Why did I just receive the actual $500 sears, and at the same time, everyone is having to go through the hassle of prebuying and rebating!@?!?!?!?!


Someone please help me out here...... i believe mine was householdsavingsclub.... Whats the deal?[/quotecbba9e3299]

What's there to figure out? You got lucky, the rest of us got shat on..

dubbin87

10-02-2009 01:12:58

[quote030178d2a0="ashilef"][quote030178d2a0="haloplaya24"]Still tryin to figure this out...... Why did I just receive the actual $500 sears, and at the same time, everyone is having to go through the hassle of prebuying and rebating!@?!?!?!?!


Someone please help me out here...... i believe mine was householdsavingsclub.... Whats the deal?[/quote030178d2a0]

What's there to figure out? You got lucky, [b030178d2a0]the rest of us got shat on..[/b030178d2a0][/quote030178d2a0]

I saw a website that catered to that once, I never hit the back button so fast in my life. shock

Stkfree1

10-02-2009 10:17:51

Sorry, I cannot find the email for MPell anywhere on its website. Does anyone have it handy?

favored

10-02-2009 10:35:45

[quote54e79436e7="Stkfree1"]Sorry, I cannot find the email for MPell anywhere on its website. Does anyone have it handy?[/quote54e79436e7]

email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email

ashilef

10-02-2009 13:42:46

Approved and awaiting shipment! lisighli this ordeal is almost over..

bayarea05

10-02-2009 14:12:26

[quote84c73e7f5a="ashilef"]Approved and awaiting shipment! lisighli this ordeal is almost over..[/quote84c73e7f5a]

Good to hear!! I hope mines get processed-approved soon. Did you call in?

tylerc

10-02-2009 14:24:06

I'm calling on Thursday, I figured I should give them a week to get my forms and check them out.

ashilef

10-02-2009 14:34:06

[quote69f6f150dc="bayarea05"][quote69f6f150dc="ashilef"]Approved and awaiting shipment! lisighli this ordeal is almost over..[/quote69f6f150dc]

Good to hear!! I hope mines get processed-approved soon. Did you call in?[/quote69f6f150dc]

Yes I just called like a half hour ago, and once again they really look it up, she spelled my name to verify it was the correct one, because there is more than one way to spell it.

JANGALANG32

10-02-2009 14:36:55

just talked to mpell because about half of my letters were shipped to the wrong address but i had my mail forwarded to the new address but the letters still haven't shown up to this day. i was getting worried i was going to lose out so i called and they said they would ship me the other half of the letters tomorrow with a new 30 days to complete the requirements!

mpell sounds legit so this brandarama mess should be over with soon for everyone!

manOFice

10-02-2009 15:04:16

I got a mpell check today for 34,000! Their legit

ashilef

10-02-2009 15:04:25

[quote17e5667896="JANGALANG32"]just talked to mpell because about half of my letters were shipped to the wrong address but i had my mail forwarded to the new address but the letters still haven't shown up to this day. i was getting worried i was going to lose out so i called and they said they would ship me the other half of the letters tomorrow with [b17e5667896]a new 30 days to complete the requirements! [/b17e5667896]
mpell sounds legit so this brandarama mess should be over with soon for everyone![/quote17e5667896]

That's awesome! I'm starting to feel better about this company more and more everyday.

ashilef

10-02-2009 15:06:03

[quote77d33198d2="manOFice"]I got a mpell check today for 34,000! Their legit[/quote77d33198d2]

Wow!!! Your ass better be serious, lol that was fast!!!

You know what my right hand has been itching for the last few days, maybe my check will be here soon too!

Congratulations!

dubbin87

10-02-2009 15:06:53

[quote3ec71af220="manOFice"]I got a mpell check today for 34,000! Their legit[/quote3ec71af220]U too?!?! I'ma buy mah a new car!!1111111

manOFice

10-02-2009 15:08:41

[quoteaa778cddee="dubbin87"][quoteaa778cddee="manOFice"]I got a mpell check today for 34,000! Their legit[/quoteaa778cddee]U too?!?! I'ma buy mah a new car!!1111111[/quoteaa778cddee]

twisted twisted me too!

bennyboy5768

10-02-2009 15:27:39

Pics or it never happened lol.

dubbin87

10-02-2009 16:10:04

[quotebc95faf7a6="manOFice"][quotebc95faf7a6="dubbin87"][quotebc95faf7a6="manOFice"]I got a mpell check today for 34,000! Their legit[/quotebc95faf7a6]U too?!?! I'ma buy mah a new car!!1111111[/quotebc95faf7a6]

twisted twisted me too![/quotebc95faf7a6]

Cadillac's for everyone!!!!!!!1

slambam

10-02-2009 16:13:20

[quote156aa2097b="bennyboy5768"]Pics or it never happened lol.[/quote156aa2097b]

I second that...

livingloud28

10-02-2009 16:17:53

haha you guys crack me up

RolltheStampede

10-02-2009 16:33:31

what is this Oprah.
"everyone look under your keyboards, NEW CARS"

wiebelhaus03

10-02-2009 16:52:25

it's hard to detect sarcasm when it's in writing....don't get too many people's hopes up haha

freeipodplayer

10-02-2009 16:58:15

i received 104 checks today for a grand total of 69,750.

THANKS MPELL!

Here is some of the cash from the deposit.

http/" alt=""/img14.imageshack.us/img="14/6185/mailgooglecombk5.jpg[" alt=""/imgffcdf1d93f]

bayarea05

10-02-2009 17:19:24

[quote4e788887e7="freeipodplayer"]i received 104 checks today for a grand total of 69,750.

THANKS MPELL!

Here is some of the cash from the deposit.

http/" alt=""/img14.imageshack.us/img="14/6185/mailgooglecombk5.jpg[" alt=""/img4e788887e7][/quote4e788887e7]

how in the hell u done 104 sites?

zr2152

10-02-2009 17:22:34

Nice dude! Seems like they are sending out checks extremely fast!

Congrats!

RolltheStampede

10-02-2009 17:27:34

I see 2, maybe 300 bucks

[quote516e99bd59="wiebelhaus03"]it's hard to detect sarcasm when it's in writing....don't get too many people's hopes up haha[/quote516e99bd59]

wiebelhaus03

10-02-2009 17:39:02

damn thats impressive

dubbin87

10-02-2009 17:39:56

[quotef367abdc6f="freeipodplayer"]i received 104 checks today for a grand total of 69,750.

THANKS MPELL!

Here is some of the cash from the deposit.

http/" alt=""/img14.imageshack.us/img="14/6185/mailgooglecombk5.jpg[" alt=""/imgf367abdc6f][/quotef367abdc6f]


awwwwwwwwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaAaHHHHHHHH YOU CAN BUY RIMZZZZZZZZ FO YOU CADDDYYY!!111

ashilef

10-02-2009 17:41:51

[quotedfcd611546="dubbin87"][quotedfcd611546="freeipodplayer"]i received 104 checks today for a grand total of 69,750.

THANKS MPELL!

Here is some of the cash from the deposit.

http/" alt=""/img14.imageshack.us/img="14/6185/mailgooglecombk5.jpg[" alt=""/imgdfcd611546][/quotedfcd611546]


awwwwwwwwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaAaHHHHHHHH YOU CAN BUY RIMZZZZZZZZ FO YOU CADDDYYY!!111[/quotedfcd611546]

lol wtf!

freeipodplayer

10-02-2009 17:47:48

[quote7241334d02="dubbin87"][quote7241334d02="freeipodplayer"]i received 104 checks today for a grand total of 69,750.

THANKS MPELL!

Here is some of the cash from the deposit.

http/" alt=""/img14.imageshack.us/img="14/6185/mailgooglecombk5.jpg[" alt=""/img7241334d02][/quote7241334d02]


awwwwwwwwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaAaHHHHHHHH YOU CAN BUY RIMZZZZZZZZ FO YOU CADDDYYY!!111[/quote7241334d02]


I boughtzzzz me newz rimzzz yo

[img="7241334d02]http/" alt=""/img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/twiggss/spinnerz.gif[/img7241334d02]

freeipodplayer

10-02-2009 17:52:06

UPS JUST DROPPED OFF 55,000 MORE DOLLARS!!!!!!!!

JUST BOUGHT A LIMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http//schlicken.blogsome.com/images/redneck_limo.jpg[" alt=""/img12cbabcdf3]

dubbin87

10-02-2009 17:57:53

FED EX WAS HERE!!!!!! I gotz me a diamod tolilet~~~~~~``!

http//i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/youngnik/diamondtoilert.jpg[" alt=""/imgafb716b39a]

freeipodplayer

10-02-2009 17:59:27

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Good Purchase bud!!!!!!!!

dubbin87

10-02-2009 18:01:21

now I gotta eatz diamondz so i cna haz diamondz dookiezzzz!111135

freeipodplayer

10-02-2009 18:02:16

Diamonnnnndz steeeeez pooooops kiddddddddddddd


+1 for the pissa

Eeyore

10-02-2009 18:07:17

[quote42807e5e62="dubbin87"]FED EX WAS HERE!!!!!! I gotz me a diamod tolilet~~~~~~``![/quote42807e5e62]

Oh god that is funny. My eyes are watering...

bayarea05

10-02-2009 18:17:48

Did anyone confirm if Brandrama is going to use MPELL from now on?

freeipodplayer

10-02-2009 18:24:35

[quote05464a91a7="bayarea05"]Did anyone confirm if Brandrama is going to use MPELL from now on?[/quote05464a91a7]

They said for now.

sUrface1080

10-02-2009 18:35:53

THANKS MPELL

got myself a vespa since the vespa site will never pay out

http//modvespa.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/vespa-powersport.jpg[" alt=""/img76e6ad9340]

dubbin87

10-02-2009 18:43:10

[quotece1cc3d439="sUrface1080"]THANKS MPELL

got myself a vespa since the vespa site will never pay out

http//modvespa.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/vespa-powersport.jpg[" alt=""/imgce1cc3d439][/quotece1cc3d439]

NO WAI!

dmorris68

10-02-2009 18:56:27

For some reason that looks like Herbie the Love Scooter.

benedict

10-02-2009 18:57:39

called mpell today and they have all 5 of my certificates and said that i should be receiving it in a couple of weeks.

ploppsdman

10-02-2009 19:11:09

I see my request for only useful answers and such has gone over so well....

Well, in the spirit of things, I knocked out my teeth and bought myself 25k gold teeth (with all the money I got from mpell, I created a new grade of gold). Thanks, mpell!

tylerc

10-02-2009 19:12:29

[quote0305a80850="benedict"]called mpell today and they have all 5 of my certificates and said that i should be receiving it in a couple of weeks.[/quote0305a80850]

By couple do you mean 8-10?

dubbin87

10-02-2009 19:27:57

[quotea16038e7c9="ploppsdman"]I see my request for only useful answers and such has gone over so well....

Well, in the spirit of things, I knocked out my teeth and bought myself 25k gold teeth (with all the money I got from mpell, I created a new grade of gold). Thanks, mpell![/quotea16038e7c9]dude it's so obvious you are lying....geeeez roll

bayarea05

10-02-2009 19:33:46

ill be in this too ... LOL

just put a down payment on a ls460 for the hell of it. i didnt get my 20k yet. LOL


MPELL COME THRU!!!!

http//thepassionatepursuit.com/images/weblog/07-07-25-lexus-ls-460-junction-produce.jpg[" alt=""/img7e8319139d]

edgespeeder04

10-02-2009 20:41:53

but seriously, did u guys get any money already or are you joking? lol my form are going in tomorrow.

Eeyore

10-02-2009 22:59:17

Nobody's gotten anything yet. They're just having fun.

sexualintellectual

10-02-2009 23:49:25

[quotec5a5f095d3="Eeyore"]Nobody's gotten anything yet. They're just having fun.[/quotec5a5f095d3]

Whachu talkin bout Willis? I just got my 65 cent check from MPell for the 3 offer snickers bar!

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW BRANDARAMA?!


http//www.yearssupply.co.uk/images/snickers.gif[" alt=""/imgc5a5f095d3]

Me, that's who... because I'm in Peanutopolis. I've waited more than a year to get here, and by golly, it's nuts.

DRay9911

11-02-2009 04:27:40

got my checks over the weekend and cashed them yesterday

http//media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2008/10/27/PH2008102701402.jpg[" alt=""/imgab4c76048f]

thanks brandarama/mpell

-dan

manOFice

11-02-2009 05:28:14

[quote2d0f53fecd="dubbin87"][quote2d0f53fecd="freeipodplayer"]i received 104 checks today for a grand total of 69,750.

THANKS MPELL!

Here is some of the cash from the deposit.

http/" alt=""/img14.imageshack.us/img="14/6185/mailgooglecombk5.jpg[" alt=""/img2d0f53fecd][/quote2d0f53fecd]


awwwwwwwwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaAaHHHHHHHH YOU CAN BUY RIMZZZZZZZZ FO YOU CADDDYYY!!111[/quote2d0f53fecd]


hahahaha

mistertomlinson

11-02-2009 05:39:51

http//media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2008/10/27/PH2008102701402.jpg[" alt=""/imgf8260d533b]


What is... how much MPell has bitten off?

doylnea

11-02-2009 07:03:52

[quote76969b097c="DRay9911"]got my checks over the weekend and cashed them yesterday

http//media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2008/10/27/PH2008102701402.jpg[" alt=""/img76969b097c]

thanks brandarama/mpell

-dan[/quote76969b097c]

Gosh, I thought you were dead Saddam?

cronerd

11-02-2009 08:45:46

Mpell sent me a substitution in zimbabwe dollars!!! 100 BILLION D
http//www.elcaseto.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/zimbabwe-100-billion-dollar.jpg[" alt=""/img53867d491c]
I'm going on a shopping spree in zimbabwe! roll

figgarro

11-02-2009 09:23:18

[quote89dda89a29]I'm going on a shopping spree in zimbabwe! [/quote89dda89a29]

Good Luck

In the economic chaos of Zimbabwe, a loaf of bread costs more than $100 billion, as The New York Times noted today. The government itself set the inflation rate above 2.2 million percent over the weekend, though outside experts say it is much higher

cronerd

11-02-2009 10:59:13

haha i just checked and I can buy 3 eggs with my 100 billion!! ..... /

dubbin87

11-02-2009 11:13:58

mmmmmmmmmm eggo's lidroooooooooooooooolsli

cronerd

11-02-2009 11:26:50

http/" alt=""/img507.imageshack.us/img="507/61/expensiveeggzj0.jpg[" alt=""/imga454c77833] HAHA

RolltheStampede

11-02-2009 11:34:05

http//www.giftitamerica.com/BTVm861dd8615?sud=1717lcdh

desertwilite

11-02-2009 11:39:07

OMG 20 offers? I would die of old age before I finished that one.

bayarea05

11-02-2009 12:22:49

20 offers -_-

FreebieExpert

11-02-2009 12:26:29

Whats the value of that? thats what you gotta look at...and if they are still going to fulfill thru mpell is the question

bayarea05

11-02-2009 12:35:45

[quotea3d2e97284="FreebieExpert"]Whats the value of that? thats what you gotta look at...and if they are still going to fulfill thru mpell is the question[/quotea3d2e97284]

$1200 46 inch samsung lcd tv.

tylerc

11-02-2009 15:21:40

I want that TV, but not for 20 offers. I think I'll go buy it at Best Buy once I get my MPell money D

RolltheStampede

11-02-2009 15:42:31

you wanna buy my best buy cards off of me )

wiebelhaus03

11-02-2009 16:15:34

buy it from amazon for $1150, free shipping, no tax, and $200 nfl shop gift card (after rebate)

EDIT nevermind had to be purchased by 1/31

tylerc

11-02-2009 16:16:47

That's awesome, hopefully that deal is still going on in 8-10 weeks wink

+karma anyway

TravMan162

11-02-2009 21:39:16

[quote497839641b="cronerd"]http/" alt=""/img507.imageshack.us/img="507/61/expensiveeggzj0.jpg[" alt=""/img497839641b] HAHA[/quote497839641b]

oh my god hilarious!

hahaha wow

shawnese

12-02-2009 12:18:41

Im clueless. I just called Mpell, and they told me my 1,000 American Express gift card purchase doesn't count.....lisighli

nousername

12-02-2009 12:21:28

[quote4b9edc1f17="shawnese"]Im clueless. I just called Mpell, and they told me my 1,000 American Express gift card purchase doesn't count.....lisighli[/quote4b9edc1f17]

Did you ask and did they tell you why it didn't count?
What was your original gift?
Did you send a receipt with date of purchase on it?
Did you ask if you can re-do that certificate (I mean, send another receipt)?

JANGALANG32

12-02-2009 12:26:53

how can that not count? i did 5 $500 visas so it better count

manOFice

12-02-2009 12:28:00

[quotec1ed0516b3="shawnese"]Im clueless. I just called Mpell, and they told me my 1,000 American Express gift card purchase doesn't count.....lisighli[/quotec1ed0516b3]

no way, they said those did count before

bruman

12-02-2009 12:30:50

My $3,000 amex better count. I see no reason why it wouldn't. Unless you didn't provide an adequate receipt with a date on it or something.

imapepper

12-02-2009 12:31:11

Yes many people specifically asked them if they could substitute american express gift cards and they said yes!

debo012004

12-02-2009 12:50:03

He probably bought it before the 26th.

desertwilite

12-02-2009 13:06:16

I talked to a very nice lady who has gone through 100's of these and only had a problem with maybe 5. One person sent in receipts with the bottom cut off so you couldn't see the date. And one was a bunch of $25 gift cards that didn't match the gift (I guess like 10 different cards trying to equal a $250 gift or something) And she called these people to ask if they needed the paperwork back or what. I think they sound very fair so far---of course none of mine are qualified yet!!

ILoveToys

12-02-2009 13:06:57

I bought a amex or 2 and I just got an email saying all my certs are approved....My guess is the date was off on this guy's or he's full of crap.

mtomm

12-02-2009 13:15:05

[quote055cfd2b13="ILoveToys"]I bought a amex or 2 and I just got an email saying all my certs are approved....My guess is the date was off on this guy's or he's full of crap.[/quote055cfd2b13]

Wow, how did you get the email? That's the first I've heard of that. Did you request that they do so?

ILoveToys

12-02-2009 13:15:40

I asked....

nousername

12-02-2009 13:22:39

[quote376787907c="ILoveToys"]I asked....[/quote376787907c]

Did you ask when you called or did you include a note when you send your certs/receipts in? I would like to get an email notification, too.

RyanG

12-02-2009 13:26:48

[quote9d64fc7ed6="shawnese"]Im clueless. I just called Mpell, and they told me my 1,000 American Express gift card purchase doesn't count.....lisighli[/quote9d64fc7ed6]

What'd you send in? I sent in the Approved e-mail and Shipped e-mail for each card, was processed for all my certs.

ILoveToys

12-02-2009 13:46:42

[quotef9f0d87f3f="nousername"][quotef9f0d87f3f="ILoveToys"]I asked....[/quotef9f0d87f3f]

Did you ask when you called or did you include a note when you send your certs/receipts in? I would like to get an email notification, too.[/quotef9f0d87f3f]

I emailed them.......

wes

12-02-2009 13:54:07

The cert for my $1k AMEX was approved.

RolltheStampede

12-02-2009 14:09:24

they approved mine really fast just 6-8 weeks for me.

SkatingCrippled

12-02-2009 14:23:11

Just called today, my $1,000 visa gift card in lieu of the Toshiba Tecra laptop was approved and my check is shipping in 6-8 weeks. So I don't know why people are having problems with gift cards not working.

mjforever

12-02-2009 15:26:25

[quote8ac9d30ced="nousername"][quote8ac9d30ced="ILoveToys"]I asked....[/quote8ac9d30ced]

Did you ask when you called or did you include a note when you send your certs/receipts in? I would like to get an email notification, too.[/quote8ac9d30ced]


If theres a problem with your certificate/receipt, they will personally call you. They called me yesterday informing me that 3 of my receipts doesn't have a date on it. I made a replacement today. That was nice of them to call me.

nousername

12-02-2009 15:37:10

[quote2f7731a556="mjforever"][quote2f7731a556="nousername"][quote2f7731a556="ILoveToys"]I asked....[/quote2f7731a556]

Did you ask when you called or did you include a note when you send your certs/receipts in? I would like to get an email notification, too.[/quote2f7731a556]


If theres a problem with your certificate/receipt, they will personally call you. They called me yesterday informing me that 3 of my receipts doesn't have a date on it. I made a replacement today. That was nice of them to call me.[/quote2f7731a556]

Thanks. I sent a packing slip with no date on it instead of a receipt by mistake. USPS delivery confirmation shows they've received my certs on Monday so, I'll wait a few more days for them to call.

ploppsdman

12-02-2009 15:55:07

I've read someone say they just found out their were approved and were told 6-8 weeks ... so what is it ... 6-8 weeks or 8-10 ...

rsmith985

12-02-2009 16:11:31

I had a voice mail from Brandrama when I got home today. They asked me to call back, that they wanted to make me an alternate offer if I handn't sent back in my redemption forms yet.

Has anyone else gotten a call from them? And if so what is their offer?

I've sent back 2 of my 3 redemptions back. I have been holding off on my $825 one until I could get some more cash, I'm up for ending this though if the offer is good enough.

MamaToldMeDIY

12-02-2009 16:13:04

I just called, all 3 of my certs were processed/approved Jan 29th, 6-8 weeks to wait now.

woot wooot

cronerd

12-02-2009 16:26:49

[quote8ee222d412="rsmith985"]I had a voice mail from Brandrama when I got home today. They asked me to call back, that they wanted to make me an alternate offer if I handn't sent back in my redemption forms yet.

Has anyone else gotten a call from them? And if so what is their offer?

I've sent back 2 of my 3 redemptions back. I have been holding off on my $825 one until I could get some more cash, I'm up for ending this though if the offer is good enough.[/quote8ee222d412]
^^^ now THATS interesting, finally something to talk abt

Zags1199

12-02-2009 16:46:01

[quote93920e5022="rsmith985"]I had a voice mail from Brandrama when I got home today. They asked me to call back, that they wanted to make me an alternate offer if I handn't sent back in my redemption forms yet.

Has anyone else gotten a call from them? And if so what is their offer?

I've sent back 2 of my 3 redemptions back. I have been holding off on my $825 one until I could get some more cash, I'm up for ending this though if the offer is good enough.[/quote93920e5022]

They offered someone else 20% of their gift amount. Probably the same thing with you but maybe not.

dubbin87

12-02-2009 17:08:20

[quote9fab3af16e="ploppsdman"]I've read someone say they just found out their were approved and were told 6-8 weeks ... so what is it ... 6-8 weeks or 8-10 ...[/quote9fab3af16e]
6-10 weeks.

bayarea05

12-02-2009 17:16:32

i got mines approved. called them and their all approved. 30k in THE BANK in two months!!!

FreebieExpert

12-02-2009 17:47:29

30k in mpell certs or just 30k total? cuz thats not much

TravMan162

12-02-2009 17:56:02

[quote6ac8913b89="FreebieExpert"]30k in mpell certs or just 30k total? cuz thats not much[/quote6ac8913b89]

O rly?

30k in the bank is not much?

Interesting.

I'm surprised you have time to keep posting on here while you're on your yacht sipping maitais with the beautiful natives of bora bora.

ILoveToys

12-02-2009 17:59:17

He is the freebieexpert, so i'm sure he's made more than enough to live a relaxing life....

MamaToldMeDIY

12-02-2009 18:02:17

lmao@ 30k in the bank isn't enough

wowww

rich cats on here

tylerc

12-02-2009 18:04:49

[quote5a3cd93666="bayarea05"]i got mines approved. called them and their all approved. 30k in THE BANK in two months!!![/quote5a3cd93666]

Gee I wonder how many times you repeated offers....

cronerd

12-02-2009 18:13:02

[quote4b5f7c4263="FreebieExpert"]30k in mpell certs or just 30k total? cuz thats not much[/quote4b5f7c4263]
oh ya dont mess with the 19 poster and dont let the Jan 09 join date fool you, hes an 'expert'

dubbin87

12-02-2009 18:19:55

horse

bruman

12-02-2009 18:32:31

How long until they received your paperwork did you guys call and ask if they are approved? Seems like they are approving them very fast.

FreebieExpert

12-02-2009 18:33:26

the date really should be changed to 2004 as thats what it really is. and just to clarify, im almost to 100k dollars made since that time doing this crap...hehe. good side job if you ask me, who could turn down money like that

shawnese

12-02-2009 18:41:50

Im sorry, I should have posted more information about what I was talking about, but I was at work.

I was approved for the $1,000 visa gift card. I have been lurking this thread (I didn't have time to read all) and I seen a few post where people said that they were told American Express gift cards were fine as a sub for the visa. So I purchased the gift card online and had it expressed shipped to me, so I could hurry up and send in all my paperwork. Well, something told me to call to make sure I was sending in everything correctly (cause I want no reason to be DQ) and when I told her what I got approved for and what I was sending in, she told me that I could not sup the visa offer with an American Express, that it must be Visa.

Everything else I read on here was correct. She said that you can buy an item up to that amount, or purchase two visa gift cards in the amount of $500. This stuff just gets confusing at times, and no one wants to NOT get their gift.

ILoveToys

12-02-2009 18:53:38

[quoteccfd4ae293="FreebieExpert"]the date really should be changed to 2004 as thats what it really is. and just to clarify, im almost to 100k dollars made since that time doing this crap...hehe. good side job if you ask me, who could turn down money like that[/quoteccfd4ae293]

100k since 2004 without repeating offers??? Even w/ the brandarama 4 offer for $1000 sites that's 400 offers in 5 years (or less). I find it hard to believe that was done legitimately.....

FreebieExpert

12-02-2009 19:31:59

It was done fully legit, no joke.

cronerd

12-02-2009 19:45:07

[quote68bc40d128="FreebieExpert"]It was done fully legit, no joke.[/quote68bc40d128]
sure...

dmorris68

12-02-2009 19:53:45

[quote026300df5e="FreebieExpert"]It was done fully legit, no joke.[/quote026300df5e]
Do you honestly expect the dozens of people on here who have been involved in this industry since the beginning to believe that? They know how these things work, you know.

And if you started in 2004, I think it's a safe guess that we could add age fraud to the list too. You don't strike me as someone a day over 20.

BTW orangjuice, did somebody give you permission to create another account as FreebieExpert? Or did you just violate FiPG rules and do it anyway? I wish I hadn't waited until now to actually check out your account.
Oh, and you joined as OJ in 2007, not 2004.

ashilef

12-02-2009 20:17:32

[quotebdb9ea1a48="dmorris68"][quotebdb9ea1a48="FreebieExpert"]It was done fully legit, no joke.[/quotebdb9ea1a48]
Do you honestly expect the dozens of people on here who have been involved in this industry since the beginning to believe that? They know how these things work, you know.

And if you started in 2004, I think it's a safe guess that we could add age fraud to the list too. You don't strike me as someone a day over 20.

BTW orangjuice, did somebody give you permission to create another account as FreebieExpert? Or did you just violate FiPG rules and do it anyway? I wish I hadn't waited until now to actually check out your account.
Oh, and you joined as OJ in 2007, not 2004.[/quotebdb9ea1a48]

pwned!

bruman

12-02-2009 20:22:28

Makes sense. Orangejuice was definitely a frauder. He never came out and said it but you could definitely tell just by the way he talked.

Zags1199

12-02-2009 20:28:27

[quoted7b696b598="shawnese"]Im sorry, I should have posted more information about what I was talking about, but I was at work.

I was approved for the $1,000 visa gift card. I have been lurking this thread (I didn't have time to read all) and I seen a few post where people said that they were told American Express gift cards were fine as a sub for the visa. So I purchased the gift card online and had it expressed shipped to me, so I could hurry up and send in all my paperwork. Well, something told me to call to make sure I was sending in everything correctly (cause I want no reason to be DQ) and when I told her what I got approved for and what I was sending in, she told me that I could not sup the visa offer with an American Express, that it must be Visa.

Everything else I read on here was correct. She said that you can buy an item up to that amount, or purchase two visa gift cards in the amount of $500. This stuff just gets confusing at times, and no one wants to NOT get their gift.[/quoted7b696b598]

They've told people that you can substitute AMEXs for Visas, unless I'm missing something you're saying.

And can OJ just be banned/reported to Brandarama? The money amount is ridiculous, and we all know it's fraud. Why should he be rewarded for it? Not only is this pathetic arrogance obnoxious, it is probably also unfounded. Plus, I really doubt he has a "successful" business on the side, as he had claimed when he posted as OJ.

tylerc

12-02-2009 20:29:48

I'm sure MPell wouldn't mind a reason to save tens of thousands.

cronerd

12-02-2009 20:48:24

[quote29a8b65f18="dmorris68"][quote29a8b65f18="FreebieExpert"]It was done fully legit, no joke.[/quote29a8b65f18]
Do you honestly expect the dozens of people on here who have been involved in this industry since the beginning to believe that? They know how these things work, you know.

And if you started in 2004, I think it's a safe guess that we could add age fraud to the list too. You don't strike me as someone a day over 20.

BTW orangjuice, did somebody give you permission to create another account as FreebieExpert? Or did you just violate FiPG rules and do it anyway? I wish I hadn't waited until now to actually check out your account.
Oh, and you joined as OJ in 2007, not 2004.[/quote29a8b65f18]
HAAHHAHAA YESSS!!!! OWNED Blililili

RyanG

12-02-2009 21:10:27

lol good stuff

S.A.R.S

12-02-2009 23:27:52

Can someone please explain if we are allowed to send in receipts for car work? They gave me a very vague description and I am about ready to submit a "receipt" for $850 because my car needed a new head gasket.


Also, I highly doubt that the guy in the prev page made 100k. there is no way. maybe 30,000 tops and even that is a nearly impossible stretch.

TravMan162

13-02-2009 00:17:10

anyone know his name?

I have no problems giving MPell the heads up. They're trying to help us out of a jam here and we don't need clowns like this bogging down the process.

mookieb2

13-02-2009 01:06:56

Dont mess with Dmorris, lol.


That was awesome.

dubbin87

13-02-2009 03:11:58

[quote914777d716="S.A.R.S"]Can someone please explain if we are allowed to send in receipts for car work? They gave me a very vague description and I am about ready to submit a "receipt" for $850 because my car needed a new head gasket.


Also, I highly doubt that the guy in the prev page made 100k. there is no way. maybe 30,000 tops and even that is a nearly impossible stretch.[/quote914777d716]

yes and no. I submitted mine for car parts but they told me no service's would be accepted. Like they might pay for your gasket but not to install it. Make sense?

shawnese

13-02-2009 04:19:12

[quotea5c07e7aa2="Zags1199"][quotea5c07e7aa2="shawnese"]Im sorry, I should have posted more information about what I was talking about, but I was at work.

I was approved for the $1,000 visa gift card. I have been lurking this thread (I didn't have time to read all) and I seen a few post where people said that they were told American Express gift cards were fine as a sub for the visa. So I purchased the gift card online and had it expressed shipped to me, so I could hurry up and send in all my paperwork. Well, something told me to call to make sure I was sending in everything correctly (cause I want no reason to be DQ) and when I told her what I got approved for and what I was sending in, she told me that I could not sup the visa offer with an American Express, that it must be Visa.

Everything else I read on here was correct. She said that you can buy an item up to that amount, or purchase two visa gift cards in the amount of $500. This stuff just gets confusing at times, and no one wants to NOT get their gift.[/quotea5c07e7aa2]

They've told people that you can substitute AMEXs for Visas, unless I'm missing something you're saying.

[/quotea5c07e7aa2]

I have read on here that they told others yes, but they told me no. That's all im saying.

freeipodplayer

13-02-2009 05:54:04

[quote0088b573bd="TravMan162"]anyone know his name?

I have no problems giving MPell the heads up. They're trying to help us out of a jam here and we don't need clowns like this bogging down the process.[/quote0088b573bd]

You have no reasonable proof of anything. For all you know, he could have done 1 gift and blew smoke up your ass.

favored

13-02-2009 06:05:56

[quote60745a0455="shawnese"][quote60745a0455="Zags1199"][quote60745a0455="shawnese"]Im sorry, I should have posted more information about what I was talking about, but I was at work.

I was approved for the $1,000 visa gift card. I have been lurking this thread (I didn't have time to read all) and I seen a few post where people said that they were told American Express gift cards were fine as a sub for the visa. So I purchased the gift card online and had it expressed shipped to me, so I could hurry up and send in all my paperwork. Well, something told me to call to make sure I was sending in everything correctly (cause I want no reason to be DQ) and when I told her what I got approved for and what I was sending in, she told me that I could not sup the visa offer with an American Express, that it must be Visa.

Everything else I read on here was correct. She said that you can buy an item up to that amount, or purchase two visa gift cards in the amount of $500. This stuff just gets confusing at times, and no one wants to NOT get their gift.[/quote60745a0455]

They've told people that you can substitute AMEXs for Visas, unless I'm missing something you're saying.

[/quote60745a0455]

I have read on here that they told others yes, but they told me no. That's all im saying.[/quote60745a0455]

I don't get it, their letter states "Don't want a $1000 Visa Gift Card anymore? No problem! Our new program gives you the ability to substitute any prize you like up to the value of your prize certificate. This gives you freedom of choice by no longer limiting you to the prize that you signed up for."

What part of "any prize" excludes an AMEX gift card?

Swat1

13-02-2009 06:20:01

[quotebd78a7cb4d="TravMan162"]anyone know his name?

I have no problems giving MPell the heads up. They're trying to help us out of a jam here and we don't need clowns like this bogging down the process.[/quotebd78a7cb4d]

wat...do you want a medal or something? whats your name?...ill tell them to send you a cookie. I dontmind at all.

zr2152

13-02-2009 06:31:01

[quotef39e43f193="Swat1"][quotef39e43f193="TravMan162"]anyone know his name?

I have no problems giving MPell the heads up. They're trying to help us out of a jam here and we don't need clowns like this bogging down the process.[/quotef39e43f193]

wat...do you want a medal or something? whats your name?...ill tell them to send you a cookie. I dontmind at all.[/quotef39e43f193]

Geeze oh man, chill out dude. If he was obviously committing fraud I don't think that anyone here would have a problem reporting him, except for you obviously.

I don't think he wants a cookie or medal....duh.

freeipodplayer

13-02-2009 06:37:13

[quote686e9c249b="zr2152"][quote686e9c249b="Swat1"][quote686e9c249b="TravMan162"]anyone know his name?

I have no problems giving MPell the heads up. They're trying to help us out of a jam here and we don't need clowns like this bogging down the process.[/quote686e9c249b]

wat...do you want a medal or something? whats your name?...ill tell them to send you a cookie. I dontmind at all.[/quote686e9c249b]

Geeze oh man, chill out dude. If he was obviously committing fraud I don't think that anyone here would have a problem reporting him, except for you obviously.

I don't think he wants a cookie or medal....duh.[/quote686e9c249b]

And what happens when you report someone for "fraud" when in actuality he complete 2 gifts, and those 2 gifts get revoked because of lies?

fucking lynch mob here.

tylerc

13-02-2009 06:48:20

It's obvious you're standing up for him because you're in the same boat.

RolltheStampede

13-02-2009 06:54:36

[quoteeffd3c7e98="ploppsdman"]I've read someone say they just found out their were approved and were told 6-8 weeks ... so what is it ... 6-8 weeks or 8-10 ...[/quoteeffd3c7e98]

[quoteeffd3c7e98="MamaToldMeDIY"]I just called, all 3 of my certs were processed/approved Jan 29th, 6-8 weeks to wait now.

woot wooot[/quoteeffd3c7e98]

It is 8-10 weeks from the time they process you but [8-10]- 2 weeks since processing = 6-8 weeks

zr2152

13-02-2009 07:12:20

[quote85d890f5fd="freeipodplayer"][quote85d890f5fd="zr2152"][quote85d890f5fd="Swat1"][quote85d890f5fd="TravMan162"]anyone know his name?

I have no problems giving MPell the heads up. They're trying to help us out of a jam here and we don't need clowns like this bogging down the process.[/quote85d890f5fd]

wat...do you want a medal or something? whats your name?...ill tell them to send you a cookie. I dontmind at all.[/quote85d890f5fd]

Geeze oh man, chill out dude. If he was obviously committing fraud I don't think that anyone here would have a problem reporting him, except for you obviously.

I don't think he wants a cookie or medal....duh.[/quote85d890f5fd]

And what happens when you report someone for "fraud" when in actuality he complete 2 gifts, and those 2 gifts get revoked because of lies?

fucking lynch mob here.[/quote85d890f5fd]

Looks like he is SOL. You can report him and say that he was acting suspicious and his account should be looked into for offer fraud.

Then again, it is not my place to judge someone so I'll leave that one up to the mods.

S.A.R.S

13-02-2009 07:53:21

Hello can we please get back to the thread at hand here? I posted on A4F forum but nobody could help me.; What I did was I got a repair for my car and there is only one thing listed on the invoice. So wouldn't they just reimburse me for that? The whole job is on 1 line. I sent in the form so now I am getting nevous ?

doylnea

13-02-2009 08:19:56

[quote2e10867870="S.A.R.S"]Can someone please explain if we are allowed to send in receipts for car work? They gave me a very vague description and I am about ready to submit a "receipt" for $850 because my car needed a new head gasket.


Also, I highly doubt that the guy in the prev page made 100k. there is no way. maybe 30,000 tops and even that is a nearly impossible stretch.[/quote2e10867870]

Remember, when I banned you as OJ, and then Dmo banned you as FreebieExpert?

I'm banning you again.

And you know how you're worried about all the offers you repeated, and whether you'll get your money...yeah, I've taken care of that problem for you too.

RyanG

13-02-2009 10:06:22

[quoteef3e0d98ea="doylnea"][quoteef3e0d98ea="S.A.R.S"]Can someone please explain if we are allowed to send in receipts for car work? They gave me a very vague description and I am about ready to submit a "receipt" for $850 because my car needed a new head gasket.


Also, I highly doubt that the guy in the prev page made 100k. there is no way. maybe 30,000 tops and even that is a nearly impossible stretch.[/quoteef3e0d98ea]

Remember, when I banned you as OJ, and then Dmo banned you as FreebieExpert?

I'm banning you again.

And you know how you're worried about all the offers you repeated, and whether you'll get your money...yeah, I've taken care of that problem for you too.[/quoteef3e0d98ea]

lmao, this is a 5 star thread now.

HYPE.

13-02-2009 12:33:24

[quote796a03c20e="doylnea"][quote796a03c20e="S.A.R.S"]Can someone please explain if we are allowed to send in receipts for car work? They gave me a very vague description and I am about ready to submit a "receipt" for $850 because my car needed a new head gasket.


Also, I highly doubt that the guy in the prev page made 100k. there is no way. maybe 30,000 tops and even that is a nearly impossible stretch.[/quote796a03c20e]

Remember, when I banned you as OJ, and then Dmo banned you as FreebieExpert?

I'm banning you again.

And you know how you're worried about all the offers you repeated, and whether you'll get your money...yeah, I've taken care of that problem for you too.[/quote796a03c20e]

Pwnt.

tp24

13-02-2009 12:45:20

How did he know that was orangejuice? He didn't post anything out of the ordinary(though it's kind of strange that for a guy who's supposedly earned 100k, he would be asking for advice on how to redeem such a "pocket change" amount.)

manOFice

13-02-2009 13:15:10

[quote334c4a17a5="tp24"]How did he know that was orangejuice? He didn't post anything out of the ordinary(though it's kind of strange that for a guy who's supposedly earned 100k, he would be asking for advice on how to redeem such a "pocket change" amount.)[/quote334c4a17a5]

Mods have skillz

dmorris68

13-02-2009 13:15:19

[quote3d840297e7="tp24"]How did he know that was orangejuice? [/quote3d840297e7]
We have l337 admin skillzorz.

EDIT WTF manOFice, u stoled my thunderz.

bayarea05

13-02-2009 13:24:05

[quote6a6aac8db8="tp24"]How did he know that was orangejuice? He didn't post anything out of the ordinary(though it's kind of strange that for a guy who's supposedly earned 100k, he would be asking for advice on how to redeem such a "pocket change" amount.)[/quote6a6aac8db8]

IP check son

dubbin87

13-02-2009 13:41:07

GET A ROPE! BURN HIM BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http//i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/jokerswild_2008/LynchMobMotivator.jpg[" alt=""/img8b71bae549]




Remind me never to exaggerate around here and be boastful, friggen get strug up by the puritans. roll

cronerd

13-02-2009 14:12:04

this is the best F'in thread ever!!! go mods!!!

FreeOffersNow

13-02-2009 14:34:52

http//i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Ethired/1184367762037.jpg[" alt=""/img0b46e99782]

Have a seat right there...

rsmith985

13-02-2009 16:16:10

[quote494ddd32d6="Zags1199"][quote494ddd32d6="rsmith985"]I had a voice mail from Brandrama when I got home today. They asked me to call back, that they wanted to make me an alternate offer if I handn't sent back in my redemption forms yet.

Has anyone else gotten a call from them? And if so what is their offer?

I've sent back 2 of my 3 redemptions back. I have been holding off on my $825 one until I could get some more cash, I'm up for ending this though if the offer is good enough.[/quote494ddd32d6]

They offered someone else 20% of their gift amount. Probably the same thing with you but maybe not.[/quote494ddd32d6]

In case anyone actually still cared. I called back. They did offer me the 20% for any offers I couldn't complete. At least it is an option for those out there who can't front the money.

And I must say, while it still pisses me off that I have to front the money now, I was glad they at least made the effort to call me and offer me 20% since I had an outstanding certificate.

mistertomlinson

13-02-2009 16:25:44

[quoteb4195bb71e="FreeOffersNow"]http//i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Ethired/1184367762037.jpg[" alt=""/imgb4195bb71e]

Have a seat right there...[/quoteb4195bb71e]

Oh shit! That's the best! It's that guy from that pedophile show. BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

ashilef

13-02-2009 16:28:08

[quote17699a8e07="FreeOffersNow"]http//i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Ethired/1184367762037.jpg[" alt=""/img17699a8e07]

Have a seat right there...[/quote17699a8e07]

I love this one! lol

beerman

13-02-2009 16:46:21

[quoted4def13b6c="rsmith985"]

In case anyone actually still cared. I called back. They did offer me the 20% for any offers I couldn't complete. At least it is an option for those out there who can't front the money.

And I must say, while it still pisses me off that I have to front the money now, I was glad they at least made the effort to call me and offer me 20% since I had an outstanding certificate.[/quoted4def13b6c]

Do you at least have a credit card? If you do just buy something online and choose in-store pickup....print off the receipt and turn it in and don't pick up the merchandise at the store....if you find the right store the will just credit back your credit card with no fees. Only money I shelled out was for the postage to send the letter.....why are more people not doing this?

livingloud28

13-02-2009 16:59:44

Hey Beerman would this actually work send me a pm like which stores would it work with . They wont try mailing it would they ?

ghounds07

13-02-2009 17:01:22

Because some people on here have no critical thinking skills, there are probably a hundred different ways to do this without paying a dime.

SkatingCrippled

13-02-2009 17:02:29

[quote7340de2dcc="beerman"][quote7340de2dcc="rsmith985"]

In case anyone actually still cared. I called back. They did offer me the 20% for any offers I couldn't complete. At least it is an option for those out there who can't front the money.

And I must say, while it still pisses me off that I have to front the money now, I was glad they at least made the effort to call me and offer me 20% since I had an outstanding certificate.[/quote7340de2dcc]

Do you at least have a credit card? If you do just buy something online and choose in-store pickup....print off the receipt and turn it in and don't pick up the merchandise at the store....if you find the right store the will just credit back your credit card with no fees. Only money I shelled out was for the postage to send the letter.....why are more people not doing this?[/quote7340de2dcc]

Probably because it's quite shady.

beerman

13-02-2009 17:05:57

I don't know how this is shady.....and no they will not ship it if you choose IN-STORE PICKUP. As far as stores, I don't know what store are around you, so just read the terms on the website.

livingloud28

13-02-2009 17:07:54

Can you pm me the stores that it worked with and have they approved your receipt ?

beerman

13-02-2009 17:10:03

[quote540ea55344="livingloud28"]Can you pm me the stores that it worked with and have they approved your receipt ?[/quote540ea55344]

nah, you can do your own research )

livingloud28

13-02-2009 17:14:57

Oh thanks man I just hope it works 1 D

beerman

13-02-2009 17:16:49

all mine were approved with no problems.

livingloud28

13-02-2009 17:19:28

Ok thanks for your help much Karma ! D

dubbin87

13-02-2009 17:54:04

[quote5ae68007f6="SkatingCrippled"][quote5ae68007f6="beerman"][quote5ae68007f6="rsmith985"]

In case anyone actually still cared. I called back. They did offer me the 20% for any offers I couldn't complete. At least it is an option for those out there who can't front the money.

And I must say, while it still pisses me off that I have to front the money now, I was glad they at least made the effort to call me and offer me 20% since I had an outstanding certificate.[/quote5ae68007f6]

Do you at least have a credit card? If you do just buy something online and choose in-store pickup....print off the receipt and turn it in and don't pick up the merchandise at the store....if you find the right store the will just credit back your credit card with no fees. Only money I shelled out was for the postage to send the letter.....why are more people not doing this?[/quote5ae68007f6]

Probably because it's quite shady.[/quote5ae68007f6]

Not any less shady than people buying something in persona and returning it the next day, which was openly talked about here and people didn't give two squirts about. But I'm sure he's already been IP logged and turned in for fruad as well.

dubbin87

13-02-2009 17:58:04

[quote76bd49389c="ghounds07"]Because some people on here have no critical thinking skills, there are probably a hundred different ways to do this without paying a dime.[/quote76bd49389c]

I'm sure your are condeming fraud for even suggesting that..how dare you......

oh crap I quoted him, I'm now an accomplice shock looks like I'm getting burned at the stake too. cry

livingloud28

13-02-2009 18:03:49

Give it a rest seriously we all did the original requirements that brandarama wanted in the beggining and now they are changing the rules on us !

ashilef

13-02-2009 18:52:42

[quoteb4f380be25="beerman"][quoteb4f380be25="rsmith985"]

In case anyone actually still cared. I called back. They did offer me the 20% for any offers I couldn't complete. At least it is an option for those out there who can't front the money.

And I must say, while it still pisses me off that I have to front the money now, I was glad they at least made the effort to call me and offer me 20% since I had an outstanding certificate.[/quoteb4f380be25]

Do you at least have a credit card? If you do just buy something online and choose in-store pickup....print off the receipt and turn it in and don't pick up the merchandise at the store....if you find the right store the will just credit back your credit card with no fees. Only money I shelled out was for the postage to send the letter.....why are more people not doing this?[/quoteb4f380be25]

Because some people in the beginning of all this thought it would be fraud.

HYPE.

13-02-2009 20:13:04

Well for my $500 AMEX card I'm buying my family American Airline tickets to Puerto Rico for over spring break. The total is $1,300 for 5 tickets after taxes, etc. They'll give me my $500 for multiple tickets, not just $x for one of them, right?

tylerc

13-02-2009 20:49:23

They will reimburse you for one item up to the value of your prize, so I would assume they'll reimburse you for the value of one ticket assuming it's less than $500.

ghounds07

13-02-2009 21:11:40

[quote48de235cd6="dubbin87"][quote48de235cd6="ghounds07"]Because some people on here have no critical thinking skills, there are probably a hundred different ways to do this without paying a dime.[/quote48de235cd6]

I'm sure your are condeming fraud for even suggesting that..how dare you......

oh crap I quoted him, I'm now an accomplice shock looks like I'm getting burned at the stake too. cry[/quote48de235cd6]

Hah, how is this condemning fraud in the least bit? I have done everything by the rules and the only thing that Mpell states is that you need to purchase a product for a certain amount of money. Whatever I do with that said product is my choice. They did not state the you had to purchase a product and "not return it within x amount of days", did they?

That's what I thought, anyone else with no critical thinking skills?

Good Day.

kinneylamb

13-02-2009 22:26:08

shawnese, what youre telling us is total bs. the visa, whether it's $100, $500, $1000 or more, it can be substituted with an AMEX or a damn car if you'd like. ask them again cuz you got your info incorrectly.

anyone who's got questions about mpell, what they wanna buy, if they accept it, ASK friggen MPELL. these clowns on the board know about as little as you do. (not all ya'll but you know what im sayin)

k? thanx. peace, word, and make money.

p.s. (cuz you know this is the damn next question) mpell is avail to contact by e-mail AND phone. go to their website and look under consumers-certificate redemption support http//mpellsolutions.com/contact_us.html

MamaToldMeDIY

14-02-2009 17:51:49

They really are on point with answering the phone, it's amazing after dealing with the BR folks.

mistertomlinson

14-02-2009 18:47:04

[quoteaff27bf242="ghounds07"][quoteaff27bf242="dubbin87"][quoteaff27bf242="ghounds07"]Because some people on here have no critical thinking skills, there are probably a hundred different ways to do this without paying a dime.[/quoteaff27bf242]

I'm sure your are condeming fraud for even suggesting that..how dare you......

oh crap I quoted him, I'm now an accomplice shock looks like I'm getting burned at the stake too. cry[/quoteaff27bf242]

Hah, how is this condemning fraud in the least bit? I have done everything by the rules and the only thing that Mpell states is that you need to purchase a product for a certain amount of money. Whatever I do with that said product is my choice. They did not state the you had to purchase a product and "not return it within x amount of days", did they?

That's what I thought, anyone else with no critical thinking skills?

Good Day.[/quoteaff27bf242]

I definitely agree here. I don't condone fraud in any way... but we've done as instructed... we've jumped through their hoops and if one decides to get a refund for the item they purchased with their OWN funds then so be it. Frankly, I don't think any of us HAVE to play by these silly ass rules. If MPell/Brandarama doesn't like us returning our purchases, then maybe we'll just do things the way we had agreed to in the first place and await our payment without complying with MPell. Afterall, those were the terms agreed to when registering for their site(s)... in the event that we don't get paid, I can guarantee this would be an easy battle to win in court (I'm not threatening legal action... I'm merely trying to make a point. I for one have sent my receipts and await my check with crossed fingers).

If someone purchases something and actually decides for reasons unrelated to this situation that it was a poor choice or they aren't satisfied with said purchase, you're telling me they can't seek a refund because it's fraud?! You're telling me that they're shit outta luck and have to keep the item(s) because MPell says so... I fuckin' think not.

If you make your purchase and decide for any reason to get a refund, I say go for it. We've been forced into a situation we never agreed to in the first place and I can't believe so many people are accusing people of being fraudulent. I believe WE'RE the ones who are a victim of fraud.

http//www.sbe.csuhayward.edu/~sbesc/johnstossel.jpg[" alt=""/imgaff27bf242]

I'm John Stossel. Gimme a fuckin' break.

edgespeeder04

14-02-2009 20:46:02

Honestly, they can't do anything with the receipts, they just want to see some sort of confirmation that we bought something so they can issue us the money so really, if a person returns something, it won't affect them.

There have been numerous people who have posed this question to them and have gotten a similar response..........reason why we need a sticky to help alleviated all these questions.

ILoveToys

15-02-2009 07:53:54

[quotef56dc1517e="edgespeeder04"]Honestly, they can't do anything with the receipts, they just want to see some sort of confirmation that we bought something so they can issue us the money so really, if a person returns something, it won't affect them.

There have been numerous people who have posed this question to them and have gotten a similar response..........reason why we need a sticky to help alleviated all these questions.[/quotef56dc1517e]

So why don't you write a Mpell FAQ then....

edgespeeder04

15-02-2009 09:31:03

I tried creating something but I didn't have all the answers and was hoping a mod would help but instead the topic was closed so i give up on helping anyone else -\

doylnea

15-02-2009 10:21:52

As we discussed, your thread had significantly incorrect information, so I didn't see a point in leaving it open.

michae229

15-02-2009 11:28:11

when is the deadline for the promotion i am busy this week so i wanna do it after my test?

livingloud28

15-02-2009 11:50:34

what are u talking about

ghounds07

15-02-2009 13:08:00

good call tomlinson.

TravMan162

15-02-2009 18:19:45

Guys, I figure you should know,

I called MPell and talked to a very nice lady who said, and I quote, "We don't care what you do with your purchase, it's none of our business. If you want to go to a store, buy something, take the receipt to their copy machine, make a copy, bring the receipt to the service desk and return the item, we couldn't care less. Your gift is your gift and what you do with it is of no concern to us."

I also asked if it was okay if I posted that she said that and she said "absolutely, we don't care what you do with your item, we just need to know that you paid for one."

Maybe now we can stop quarreling like a group of old women

mistertomlinson

15-02-2009 18:24:03

[quote2994bb1451="TravMan162"]Guys, I figure you should know,

I called MPell and talked to a very nice lady who said, and I quote, "We don't care what you do with your purchase, it's none of our business. If you want to go to a store, buy something, take the receipt to their copy machine, make a copy, bring the receipt to the service desk and return the item, we couldn't care less. Your gift is your gift and what you do with it is of no concern to us."

I also asked if it was okay if I posted that she said that and she said "absolutely, we don't care what you do with your item, we just need to know that you paid for one."

Maybe now we can stop quarreling like a group of old women[/quote2994bb1451]

YESSSSS! I fuckin' took EVERYTHING BACK! That's right.... I DID IT! I bought $5,000 worth of shit... and took it ALL BACK. SUCKA ASSES!

The guy at customer services was like, "Why are you returning all of this?" and I was all like, "Why? Who's asking? The name "MPell" mean anything to you?" and he was all like "What?' and I punched him in his damn face and said gimme back my $5,000, dammit! REGULATE! >o

tp24

15-02-2009 18:31:32

Well, at least we know they have a sense of humor

Eeyore

15-02-2009 19:15:17

[quote02abec142e="mistertomlinson"]YESSSSS! I fuckin' took EVERYTHING BACK! That's right.... I DID IT! I bought $5,000 worth of shit... and took it ALL BACK. SUCKA ASSES!

The guy at customer services was like, "Why are you returning all of this?" and I was all like, "Why? Who's asking? The name "MPell" mean anything to you?" and he was all like "What?' and I punched him in his damn face and said gimme back my $5,000, dammit! REGULATE! >o[/quote02abec142e]

roll

mistertomlinson

15-02-2009 19:26:14

[quote309cf49abf="Eeyore"][quote309cf49abf="mistertomlinson"]YESSSSS! I fuckin' took EVERYTHING BACK! That's right.... I DID IT! I bought $5,000 worth of shit... and took it ALL BACK. SUCKA ASSES!

The guy at customer services was like, "Why are you returning all of this?" and I was all like, "Why? Who's asking? The name "MPell" mean anything to you?" and he was all like "What?' and I punched him in his damn face and said gimme back my $5,000, dammit! REGULATE! >o[/quote309cf49abf]

roll[/quote309cf49abf]

Don't tell me you didn't shit yourself when you read that... come on.

I'm here on the weekends.!

edgespeeder04

15-02-2009 19:57:46

[quote61902e9b5d="doylnea"]As we discussed, your thread had significantly incorrect information, so I didn't see a point in leaving it open.[/quote61902e9b5d] Then why can't someone create another with "correct information" so people would stop asking the same questions on here just because they are too damn lazy to go back and read like everyone else does?

edgespeeder04

15-02-2009 19:59:06

[quote2b5e4a58eb="mistertomlinson"][quote2b5e4a58eb="Eeyore"][quote2b5e4a58eb="mistertomlinson"]YESSSSS! I fuckin' took EVERYTHING BACK! That's right.... I DID IT! I bought $5,000 worth of shit... and took it ALL BACK. SUCKA ASSES!

The guy at customer services was like, "Why are you returning all of this?" and I was all like, "Why? Who's asking? The name "MPell" mean anything to you?" and he was all like "What?' and I punched him in his damn face and said gimme back my $5,000, dammit! REGULATE! >o[/quote2b5e4a58eb]

roll[/quote2b5e4a58eb]

Don't tell me you didn't shit yourself when you read that... come on.

I'm here on the weekends.![/quote2b5e4a58eb]

LMAO that was funny man, haha

hairyferry

15-02-2009 20:02:11

So whats the site that everyone is talking about? I just went through like 30 pages and didn't find a link

livingloud28

15-02-2009 20:13:08

dude if you completed a brandarama site and you got an mpell letter in the mail thats all

ghounds07

16-02-2009 01:35:22

If people are still buying American Express gift cards I just got this in my email in case anyone wants to use it

[quote08b9407ac8="American Express Email"] To thank you for your interest in American Express®, you can enjoy 100% off the purchasing fee on any American Express Gift Card order before 4/1/09.
Order Gift Cards Now
Simply use promo code ENL35A[/quote08b9407ac8]

bruman

16-02-2009 10:15:28

I just called them and my 11 of 13 certificates have been approved and processed (within 2 days of them receiving them). Really impressed by mpell so far. I also didn't even need to tell her my name, somehow she knew exactly who I was. Must of been using caller id or something.

manOFice

16-02-2009 10:24:07

[quotec0c0334526="bruman"]I just called them and my 11 of 13 certificates have been approved and processed (within 2 days of them receiving them). Really impressed by mpell so far. I also didn't even need to tell her my name, somehow she knew exactly who I was. Must of been using caller id or something.[/quotec0c0334526]

or their full of shit, lol

bruman

16-02-2009 10:36:16

[quotea215b684f5="manOFice"][quotea215b684f5="bruman"]I just called them and my 11 of 13 certificates have been approved and processed (within 2 days of them receiving them). Really impressed by mpell so far. I also didn't even need to tell her my name, somehow she knew exactly who I was. Must of been using caller id or something.[/quotea215b684f5]

or their full of shit, lol[/quotea215b684f5]

I believe them. I only sent in 11 of my certificates and that's how many they said they processed (also gave me the date they processed them). I have 13 in total so I still have two more to send in. I'm sure it isn't too hard for them to look at a couple of pieces of paper and mark it as approved. Freebie companies typically don't approve that fast (some referral sites do, but the big DIY sites don't). I feel better in the hands of mpell than I do in the hands of ARG anyways.

RolltheStampede

16-02-2009 10:40:44

yeah you are processed but we have yet to see if they will get the same response from ARG as we have.

manOFice

16-02-2009 10:55:37

[quote9bd006c17f="RolltheStampede"]yeah you are processed but we have yet to see if they will get the same response from ARG as we have.[/quote9bd006c17f]

I wonder if ARG even payed mpell yet or how that is even going to work, there's a reason they pawned us off to mpell, who's to say they even have enough to pay mpell, I'm sure mpell won't pay us until they get paid by ARG. But i'm waiting on mpell like everyone else so we will just wait and see

bruman

16-02-2009 12:04:15

ARG isn't going to flilili around with another company. If they do they are looking at some major legal repercussions and considering the survival of ARG and all of their employees is #1 priority for them I'm sure they would rather take a hit than do something like not pay mpell any money.

Eeyore

16-02-2009 13:06:20

[quotec2e04d29a9="manOFice"]I wonder if ARG even payed mpell yet or how that is even going to work, [/quotec2e04d29a9]I doubt Mpell would have even taken this on without being paid upfront. Their business is to sell certificates to companies like ARG at a discount based on the expected breakage. You can bet they know this business just like life insurance companies know death rates, and they certainly would not be doing this on spec.

imapepper

16-02-2009 14:04:57

[quote08cdd91f01="Eeyore"][quote08cdd91f01="manOFice"]I wonder if ARG even payed mpell yet or how that is even going to work, [/quote08cdd91f01]I doubt Mpell would have even taken this on without being paid upfront. Their business is to sell certificates to companies like ARG at a discount based on the expected breakage. You can bet they know this business just like life insurance companies know death rates, and they certainly would not be doing this on spec.[/quote08cdd91f01]

Agreed.....that would be quite moronic if they did.

ploppsdman

17-02-2009 00:45:25

If they are earning money based on breakage, it seems odd they'd actually call people to tell them things are wrong with their certificates. Bottom line, just have to wait and see.

steveyankee

17-02-2009 05:07:47

Call? They've been calling people?

RolltheStampede

17-02-2009 06:17:30

if something is wrong, yes. if nothing is wrong and you get no call dont freak. call them to see if they have processed your certs then dont bother them for 2 months.

imapepper

17-02-2009 06:21:37

[quote9cb437be9f="steveyankee"]Call? They've been calling people?[/quote9cb437be9f]

Yeah I dont think they are going to call you if you did something wrong!

freeipodplayer

17-02-2009 06:54:40

[quote859239f08f="TravMan162"]Guys, I figure you should know,

I called MPell and talked to a very nice lady who said, and I quote, "We don't care what you do with your purchase, it's none of our business. If you want to go to a store, buy something, take the receipt to their copy machine, make a copy, bring the receipt to the service desk and return the item, we couldn't care less. Your gift is your gift and what you do with it is of no concern to us."

[b859239f08f]I also asked if it was okay if I posted that she said that and she said[/b859239f08f] "absolutely, we don't care what you do with your item, we just need to know that you paid for one."

Maybe now we can stop quarreling like a group of old women[/quote859239f08f]

You seriously asked if you could post this on a forum?

Did you give them the URL too?

tylerc

17-02-2009 07:17:17

[quote7ad19709b8="freeipodplayer"][quote7ad19709b8="TravMan162"]Guys, I figure you should know,

I called MPell and talked to a very nice lady who said, and I quote, "We don't care what you do with your purchase, it's none of our business. If you want to go to a store, buy something, take the receipt to their copy machine, make a copy, bring the receipt to the service desk and return the item, we couldn't care less. Your gift is your gift and what you do with it is of no concern to us."

[b7ad19709b8]I also asked if it was okay if I posted that she said that and she said[/b7ad19709b8] "absolutely, we don't care what you do with your item, we just need to know that you paid for one."

Maybe now we can stop quarreling like a group of old women[/quote7ad19709b8]

You seriously asked if you could post this on a forum?

Did you give them the URL too?[/quote7ad19709b8]

I think it would be foolish for us to think ALL free sites (i-Deal, ARG, FreePay, etc.) as well as companies that do business with them don't know about us.

imapepper

17-02-2009 07:34:18

I doubt Kim has the time to read and find these forums....she's too busy sending replies to irritated brandarama participants.

TravMan162

17-02-2009 07:39:02

She was complaining that she gets like 1000 calls a day and she said she gets the same questions over and over and she wanted to tell everyone all at once. so I said "okay I'll spread the word, is that something you want everyone to know" and she said "YES!"

Like Imapepper said. They're not here to disqualify people. They're here to fulfill their end of a bargain.

And if you're really worried about that happening, I'm pretty sure someone from Branderama would be checking out these boards as soon as the signed the deal with MPell.

dmorris68

17-02-2009 09:22:44

Rest assured, all of the major freebie networks, including the DIY's, lurk and know what is going on in these forums.

freeipodplayer

17-02-2009 11:07:14

[quoteffc3e9b944="TravMan162"]She was complaining that she gets like 1000 calls a day and she said she gets the same questions over and over and she wanted to tell everyone all at once. so I said "okay I'll spread the word, is that something you want everyone to know" and she said "YES!"

Like Imapepper said. They're not here to disqualify people. They're here to fulfill their end of a bargain.

And if you're really worried about that happening, I'm pretty sure someone from Branderama would be checking out these boards as soon as the signed the deal with MPell.[/quoteffc3e9b944]

well that makes more sense than the first post.

JANGALANG32

17-02-2009 11:46:09

fyi i had half my letters sent to me and the other half to a different address. i have my mail being forwarded to me but they still havent arrived. i was talking to brandarama customer service about getting new letters sent to the right address so i had time to complete the requirements in the 30 day limit.

brandarama said they would talk to mpell and get back to me. a week goes by and no answer so i email brandarama again and they say they havent heard anything yet. next day i email again asking if they heard anything. this goes on for about 2 weeks then i call mpell myself because time was ticking and i needed a answer. 1st attempt to call they answer and they say they will send out new letters the next day with new dates on them.

why did brandarama act like they couldnt get a response from mpell? i think brandarma wants us to fail and mpell could care less.

slambam

17-02-2009 20:38:08

If I was a betting man, I'd say that after the 30 day deadline to get forms in, mpell figures out how much they owe people (the total $ value of all the redeemed certificates). Then they get a check from Brandarama + 5-10% or whatever they agreed upon. Brandarama has like 4 weeks to get a check to mpell. Which puts them right at beginning of the 8-10 weeks that when we are supposed to get reimbursed. Just my guess, since it seems like mpell is more than happy to help us out, and Brandarama doesn't seem to want to help.

edgespeeder04

18-02-2009 05:01:36

^--- ban him

dougp70

18-02-2009 06:58:00

Has anyone received their money yet?

RolltheStampede

18-02-2009 07:23:15

no its only been like 3 weeks MAX

dougp70

18-02-2009 07:52:31

I realize it has been only a few weeks, but you'd think we would have heard about someone getting it already. They aren't going to wait 10 weeks then send them all at the same time.

RolltheStampede

18-02-2009 08:11:28

They said 8-10 weeks. Even for the first person to send in rebates from our lot it has only been 3 weeks. 3 =/= 8 without some weird math proofs and theorems. Wait till sometime in March and then maybe someone will hear something but the only thing people have been hearing is "wait 8-10 weeks".

ghounds07

18-02-2009 08:34:50

true, but we are all approved...I'm gunna call later today and see if maybe they can send the checks out early, or why they even have to wait...should be an interesting answer

manOFice

18-02-2009 08:36:52

I'm sure they'll tell you just wait the 8-10 weeks because of the influx of certs they received

Eeyore

18-02-2009 08:40:20

[quote01eeb2d65c="ghounds07"]true, but we are all approved...I'm gunna call later today and see if maybe they can send the checks out early, or why they even have to wait...should be an interesting answer[/quote01eeb2d65c]
ADD aside, why clog up their phones and waste their time with something this silly? The more people do things like this the less cheerful they'll become with real issues. Chill.

HYPE.

18-02-2009 09:18:07

I'm sending in my certs today. I made 3 copies of everything, one for me and I was planning on sending in two of them just incase they get "lost". They need to be postmarked by the 21st so I don't have time to wait and see. Does anybody think it's worth sending 2 in?

steveyankee

18-02-2009 09:19:08

Some of you need to get off their nuts too. They're called customer service for a reason.

I don't get why you have to act as if they are a god who can't be asked a question.

bruman

18-02-2009 09:26:06

[quoteff87184873="HYPE."]I'm sending in my certs today. I made 3 copies of everything, one for me and I was planning on sending in two of them just incase they get "lost". They need to be postmarked by the 21st so I don't have time to wait and see. Does anybody think it's worth sending 2 in?[/quoteff87184873]

Just send it in Priority with Delivery Confirmation, you'll be good I assure you. Sending two in doesn't make much sense. For the obvious reason and that, according to the letter, they'll only accept the original (non-copy version) of the claim certificate.
And the deadline for certificates (unless you're an exception) is the 26th, not the 21st.

HYPE.

18-02-2009 09:35:25

[quotecd5b910aba="bruman"][quotecd5b910aba="HYPE."]I'm sending in my certs today. I made 3 copies of everything, one for me and I was planning on sending in two of them just incase they get "lost". They need to be postmarked by the 21st so I don't have time to wait and see. Does anybody think it's worth sending 2 in?[/quotecd5b910aba]

Just send it in Priority with Delivery Confirmation, you'll be good I assure you. Sending two in doesn't make much sense. For the obvious reason and that, according to the letter, they'll only accept the original (non-copy version) of the claim certificate.
And the deadline for certificates (unless you're an exception) is the 26th, not the 21st.[/quotecd5b910aba]

My letter was printed on January 21st, I thought it was 30 days from then? And the copy I made was good enough where you couldn't tell which was the copy. The only difference was that the original had straight folds from being mailed. I don't need to mail in the 1st page of the letter, right? Just the form?

steveyankee

18-02-2009 09:43:40

Do whatever you want man, but bruman has a point. It's your account.

Eeyore

18-02-2009 10:10:04

[quotebc2c6a5558="HYPE."]My letter was printed on January 21st, I thought it was 30 days from then?[/quotebc2c6a5558]Look toward the bottom of the certificate for the effective date. It almost certainly says the 26th. Some folks got burned by that, rushing out and spending money without reading the whole thing.

However, it can't hurt to get it in a little earlier.

ghounds07

18-02-2009 10:17:12

[quotea3e50ec34a="Eeyore"][quotea3e50ec34a="ghounds07"]true, but we are all approved...I'm gunna call later today and see if maybe they can send the checks out early, or why they even have to wait...should be an interesting answer[/quotea3e50ec34a]
ADD aside, why clog up their phones and waste their time with something this silly? The more people do things like this the less cheerful they'll become with real issues. Chill.[/quotea3e50ec34a]

ADD aside, if their phones are "clogged" then it will be busy and I will try back at a more convenient time for them. If they pay employees to answer the phone and provide [ba3e50ec34a]customer[/ba3e50ec34a] service and I am the customer then why is it bad if I call? I do agree that most questions can be answered by everyone here, or even with logical thinking, but has anyone asked the question I proposed?

Good Day.

soccerbud

18-02-2009 10:57:29

[quoteb63af5130a="ghounds07"][quoteb63af5130a="Eeyore"][quoteb63af5130a="ghounds07"]true, but we are all approved...I'm gunna call later today and see if maybe they can send the checks out early, or why they even have to wait...should be an interesting answer[/quoteb63af5130a]
ADD aside, why clog up their phones and waste their time with something this silly? The more people do things like this the less cheerful they'll become with real issues. Chill.[/quoteb63af5130a]

ADD aside, if their phones are "clogged" then it will be busy and I will try back at a more convenient time for them. If they pay employees to answer the phone and provide [bb63af5130a]customer[/bb63af5130a] service and I am the customer then why is it bad if I call? I do agree that most questions can be answered by everyone here, or even with logical thinking, but has anyone asked the question I proposed?

Good Day.[/quoteb63af5130a]

send them an email if you can't get them on the phone.
They are usually pretty quick with their replies. I've received responses in a day or so.

Eeyore

18-02-2009 11:42:59

[quote0836916a88="ghounds07"]I am the customer[/quote0836916a88]Actually, ARG is their customer, but it really doesn't matter either way. You'll do whatever you want to.

bayarea05

18-02-2009 14:42:40

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COP ME SUM RIMZZZZ YO....BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLINNN

tylerc

18-02-2009 15:22:31

Those will look great when Hummer ceases to exist.

edgespeeder04

18-02-2009 20:22:18

Anyone get another letter from MPell today? It has to do with vouchers for gas $10 for each one, I never signed up for any offer related to that so I'm not sure why we are getting it.....anyone wanna ask them why?

ghounds07

18-02-2009 21:02:50

why ask them why? Is it just like ones we sent in? Send in a receipt for $10+ for 1 item and get a gift card?

Hope I get some hah

bruman

18-02-2009 21:03:58

[quotefdc0428f18="edgespeeder04"]Anyone get another letter from MPell today? It has to do with vouchers for gas $10 for each one, I never signed up for any offer related to that so I'm not sure why we are getting it.....anyone wanna ask them why?[/quotefdc0428f18]

Why don't you ask why?

You're the only person who has reported receiving one so far.

ashilef

18-02-2009 21:20:36

Not sure if these are the "promotions" they were referring to but, if you remember when you signed your cert you agreed to receive further promotional mailings from Mpell.

Zags1199

19-02-2009 00:13:01

[quote677f7b4eed="ashilef"]Not sure if these are the "promotions" they were referring to but, if you remember when you signed your cert you agreed to receive further promotional mailings from Mpell.[/quote677f7b4eed]

Yep, that's most likely it.

MamaToldMeDIY

19-02-2009 03:24:00

Well if the promotion is free gas cards over time, I'm ecstatic.

lol

edgespeeder04

19-02-2009 04:38:46

Yeah I know I meant to say if anyone has asked yet, but it seems to be for anyone who has signed for reputation defender in the past

oleus

20-02-2009 10:14:48

my 5th and final MPELL certificate was just delivered. The wait begins....

in 5 or 6 weeks this thread will be going insane, for better or worse.....

oleus

dougp70

20-02-2009 10:53:52

Now that we see some light on the horizon, the wait is becoming unbearable. I can only imagine what some of you must be feeling, because I'm only waiting for a measly $500 so I can get a PS3. The fact that some of you are waiting on upwards of 10 grand totally flips me out. The hell with the stimulus package. This money oughta get a lot of peoples finances flowing again.

MamaToldMeDIY

20-02-2009 14:07:32

Or just pay off the debt hole they're in after fronting the 10k to get receipts..lol

TravMan162

20-02-2009 21:17:26

Or just buy a rocket ship to fly to jupiter

dubbin87

21-02-2009 03:27:41

[quote9f36d3b8c2="MamaToldMeDIY"]Or just pay off the debt hole they're in after fronting the 10k to get receipts..lol[/quote9f36d3b8c2]

sure, yeah that's it. lol

livingloud28

21-02-2009 14:50:05

Does anyone know if i can buy a prepaid gift card with a prepaid visa gift card for example another gift card or do i need to pay cash i am trying to figure out to get three receipts each for $500.

MamaToldMeDIY

21-02-2009 18:37:51

You NEED to get the receipts done in the next 5 days......time is running out.

mistertomlinson

21-02-2009 18:41:37

[quote1bf7e365f8="MamaToldMeDIY"]You NEED to get the receipts done in the next 5 days......time is running out.[/quote1bf7e365f8]

YES!... and then theoretically they'll start sending out checks!!!

FreeOffersNow

21-02-2009 19:07:52

How and why are people STILL asking the same questions? The terms of this offer really aren't that complicated, and while this certainly isn't directed at everyone here...try having a thought for once...I promise it'll be an immensely rewarding experience.

What kills me is that most of you know that your question has already been answered (in many cases, multiple times), but for some reason continue to believe that your time is more valuable than everyone else's. Thus you decide to ask the question again rather than spend a few moments reading through the discussion. This is why we have a 78-page discussion with about 3 pages of useful information! YOU are the reason there's a 78-page discussion that no one wants to read through.

</rant>

livingloud28

21-02-2009 19:57:35

oh free offers your helpful stop your belly aching !

TravMan162

21-02-2009 20:38:02

[quote13187b1c8a="livingloud28"]oh free offers your helpful stop your belly aching ![/quote13187b1c8a]

lol,wut?

ploppsdman

21-02-2009 21:20:09

Based on my conversations with them, its my opinion that all checks will be sent out at the same time and that everything will be on a single check.

oleus

22-02-2009 00:33:02

[quote910682a4a9="ploppsdman"]Based on my conversations with them, its my opinion that all checks will be sent out at the same time and that everything will be on a single check.[/quote910682a4a9]

good to know. when i called to see if i had been approved/confirmed i asked about the 8-10 week timeframe and the woman i spoke to seemed to think it would probably be a lot sooner for most people, i guess we'll see.

from my limited contact with them and the various stories on this forum, it seems like they wouldn't just say something for the sake of saying it.

oleus

22-02-2009 00:56:19

ps - they seem more professional at mpell than they did whenever i called brandarama.

kinneylamb

22-02-2009 02:22:25

[quote37bf79c75f="FreeOffersNow"]How and why are people STILL asking the same questions? The terms of this offer really aren't that complicated, and while this certainly isn't directed at everyone here...try having a thought for once...I promise it'll be an immensely rewarding experience.

What kills me is that most of you know that your question has already been answered (in many cases, multiple times), but for some reason continue to believe that your time is more valuable than everyone else's. Thus you decide to ask the question again rather than spend a few moments reading through the discussion. This is why we have a 78-page discussion with about 3 pages of useful information! YOU are the reason there's a 78-page discussion that no one wants to read through.

</rant>[/quote37bf79c75f]

ranters like you are also the reason.

dubbin87

22-02-2009 03:28:11

[quotee422dd7226="FreeOffersNow"]How and why are people STILL asking the same questions? The terms of this offer really aren't that complicated, and while this certainly isn't directed at everyone here...try having a thought for once...I promise it'll be an immensely rewarding experience.

What kills me is that most of you know that your question has already been answered (in many cases, multiple times), but for some reason continue to believe that your time is more valuable than everyone else's. Thus you decide to ask the question again rather than spend a few moments reading through the discussion. This is why we have a 78-page discussion with about 3 pages of useful information! YOU are the reason there's a 78-page discussion that no one wants to read through.

</rant>[/quotee422dd7226]

violin

mistertomlinson

22-02-2009 05:18:40

Posts like this are also the reason. I'll probably do this a few more times diluting the thread even more.


[quote294070a368]oh free offers your helpful stop your belly aching ![/quote294070a368]

Oh, and this almost made me shit myself... honestly... would a period or two really kill you? Maybe a capital letter? who the hell is it to have teach you grammer because its not so good when they did this

livingloud28

22-02-2009 05:50:09

Who are you to judge ? Also your useless comments are not needed .

steveyankee

22-02-2009 08:25:08

[quotea54eb49d4f="mistertomlinson"]Posts like this are also the reason. I'll probably do this a few more times diluting the thread even more.


[quotea54eb49d4f]oh free offers your helpful stop your belly aching ![/quotea54eb49d4f]

Oh, and this almost made me shit myself... honestly... would a period or two really kill you? Maybe a capital letter? who the hell is it to have teach you grammer because its not so good when they did this[/quotea54eb49d4f]

Do you really think your English is any better?

Eeyore

22-02-2009 09:33:13

[quote2e33abbb2d="mistertomlinson"]Oh, and this almost made me shit myself... honestly... would a period or two really kill you? Maybe a capital letter? who the hell is it to have teach you grammer because its not so good when they did this[/quote2e33abbb2d]
These always make me laugh. Especially the missing period at the end and the missed capitalization right after ranting about missing capitalization. The spelling and word usage errors just round it out.

Thanks for he chuckle.

Anyway...back to the topic. Has anyone who sent in their certificates not had a positive experience to this point?

livingloud28

22-02-2009 09:59:57

I try not to think about it I am mailing the rest of my papers on the 26th I am still down 4 receipts .

DRay9911

22-02-2009 10:14:10

[quote18a4b12abb="MamaToldMeDIY"]You NEED to get the receipts done in the next 5 days......you're running out of time!!!!![/quote18a4b12abb]

/fixed jack bauer style

-dan

bruman

22-02-2009 10:26:14

[quote99dbe51eca="livingloud28"]I try not to think about it I am mailing the rest of my papers on the 26th I am still down 4 receipts .[/quote99dbe51eca]

There was 31 days in January so 30 days from January 26th is February 25th.

livingloud28

22-02-2009 10:58:38

are you kidding me ?

FreeOffersNow

22-02-2009 11:11:20

[quote1bdea8453b="livingloud28"]I try not to think about it I am mailing the rest of my papers on the 26th I am still down 4 receipts .[/quote1bdea8453b]

Receipt fail.

livingloud28

22-02-2009 11:20:28

Shut up !

freeipodplayer

22-02-2009 15:12:01

[quotebb986fb7d0="livingloud28"]Shut up ![/quotebb986fb7d0]

LOL

MamaToldMeDIY

22-02-2009 15:34:08

hahahaha he's mad as hell

you should've just went on a large item shopping spree

then came right back inside the store for a large item returning spree

livingloud28

22-02-2009 16:37:42

I am not going to have all the money until thursday I will call them up tomorrow ! I hope they can throw me a bone !

ploppsdman

22-02-2009 16:38:49

[quoted8c1768bb1="oleus"][quoted8c1768bb1="ploppsdman"]Based on my conversations with them, its my opinion that all checks will be sent out at the same time and that everything will be on a single check.[/quoted8c1768bb1]

good to know. when i called to see if i had been approved/confirmed i asked about the 8-10 week timeframe and the woman i spoke to seemed to think it would probably be a lot sooner for most people, i guess we'll see.

from my limited contact with them and the various stories on this forum, it seems like they wouldn't just say something for the sake of saying it.[/quoted8c1768bb1]

I don't think its reasonable to think we'll get something earlier than the 8-10 week guideline. Customer service reps tend to answer questions as best they can, and typically information, particularly on something new, is always changing. If we get something (and I think that this is looking very likely) I don't expect anything until early to mid-April.

livingloud28

22-02-2009 16:44:00

Is it the 25th or the 26th we need to have our receipts and paperwork postmarked by ?

ploppsdman

22-02-2009 16:49:58

[quote04e0e9a1a3="livingloud28"]Is it the 25th or the 26th we need to have our receipts and paperwork postmarked by ?[/quote04e0e9a1a3]

I would assume it were tomorrow and get it done as soon as you can.

Eeyore

22-02-2009 16:51:34

They need to be "postmarked within 30 days following the date printed in the Date Issued field on this certificate", so I'd not do it any later than the 25th.

livingloud28

22-02-2009 16:56:53

Thanks ! I called them and they said as long as its postmarked but I am not sure of the date .

MamaToldMeDIY

22-02-2009 18:26:30

Man, I'm sorry but every time you post I keep seeing a FAIL pic.

You're cutting it way too close to the deadline.

good luck though

mistertomlinson

22-02-2009 19:13:57

Waaaaay off topic, but this always makes me laugh!

http//failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/caution-fail.jpg[" alt=""/img0ee88ce66b]

desertwilite

22-02-2009 21:27:16

THREE DAYS and it is over. I hope everyone has done their homework and gotten there certs in. I feel great about it and hope everyone has a blast with all the money that will be flowing in.

nousername

22-02-2009 22:48:22

So, what if my certs are mailed/postmarked before the deadline and for some reason one (or more) of my certs are not approved. What happens to that unapproved cert(s)? I have 2 certs already "approved" and just mailed 1 more last Wednesday. MPell probably won't get to it till after the 25th deadline. Will they call me and let me re-submit? Or am I SOL for this one cert? Looks like I'll have to call them again tomorrow.

zr2152

22-02-2009 23:32:59

[quote0dcfd25403="nousername"]So, what if my certs are mailed/postmarked before the deadline and for some reason one (or more) of my certs are not approved. What happens to that unapproved cert(s)? I have 2 certs already "approved" and just mailed 1 more last Wednesday. MPell probably won't get to it till after the 25th deadline. Will they call me and let me re-submit? Or am I SOL for this one cert? Looks like I'll have to call them again tomorrow.[/quote0dcfd25403]

Dude. Read like 4 posts up. Just has to be postmarked.

MamaToldMeDIY

23-02-2009 03:09:24

[quote2f5ecf17d0="mistertomlinson"]Waaaaay off topic, but this always makes me laugh!

http//failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/caution-fail.jpg[" alt=""/img2f5ecf17d0][/quote2f5ecf17d0]


hahahahha

RolltheStampede

23-02-2009 07:19:06

3 days

wiebelhaus03

23-02-2009 09:12:37

2 daysli

LucaBella

23-02-2009 10:49:43

Bounce a check and get the purchases made, man!

HYPE.

23-02-2009 13:07:20

Sent an e-mail to them last night seeing if they had approved/processed my certs. Here's there reply

Your paperwork has not been entered into our system as of yet. Our typical time frame for entering paperwork takes approximately 1-2 weeks before it is entered into our system. Please contact us after 1-2 weeks to check the status of your submission.

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575

I'm confused, I thought people were calling in a few days after it was received by them and hearing that their certs were approved?

beerman

23-02-2009 13:20:31

Tomorrow marks week 4 since my forms have been approved! )

favored

23-02-2009 13:43:06

[quotec6cd4f65ff="HYPE."]Sent an e-mail to them last night seeing if they had approved/processed my certs. Here's there reply

Your paperwork has not been entered into our system as of yet. Our typical time frame for entering paperwork takes approximately 1-2 weeks before it is entered into our system. Please contact us after 1-2 weeks to check the status of your submission.

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575

I'm confused, I thought people were calling in a few days after it was received by them and hearing that their certs were approved?[/quotec6cd4f65ff]

I got the same email. I called the next day, and they said mine were all approved. Call late tomorrow before they close or Wed. and they'll probably be in the system by then.

ploppsdman

23-02-2009 14:49:48

I hope no one is going into debt with the assumption of 100% certainty we are going to be reimbursed.

I'm pegging the chance at 60%.

The only reason it's better than a flip of a coin, is because another company is involved, but don't think that Brandarama wouldn't go and screw mpell if too many people are sending in their form properly. If that happens, they'll just file for bankruptcy.

If I remember right, by sending in the certificate, you can't hold mpell liable.

This still has a good chance of being an epic disaster.

Zags1199

23-02-2009 15:11:26

I wouldn't hold my breath right now. Since Brandarama screwed up my address, they told Mpell that they (Brandarama) would reimburse me directly. Kim then told both e-mailed and called me telling me that my checks would be sent out during the first week of February. For some reason, this got delayed, and then told me that I would receive them two weeks ago or early last week and that I would receive a tracking number. Nothing has happened. And now they are ignoring my attempts to contact them. So I don't know what the hell is going on. I could have fronted the money if I needed to, but I never got the certificates. And since Kim is now ignoring my e-mails, I don't know what to think.

ashilef

23-02-2009 15:13:24

[quote08a3a1cccb="ploppsdman"]I hope no one is going into debt with the assumption of 100% certainty we are going to be reimbursed.

I'm pegging the chance at 60%.

The only reason it's better than a flip of a coin, is because another company is involved, but don't think that Brandarama wouldn't go and screw mpell if too many people are sending in their form properly. If that happens, they'll just file for bankruptcy.

If I remember right, by sending in the certificate, you can't hold mpell liable.

This still has a good chance of being an epic disaster.[/quote08a3a1cccb]

Blah your such a party pooper....lol j.k.

tylerc

23-02-2009 15:36:34

They processed my certificates February 5th, and the lady I talked to said to allow 8-10 weeks as a cushion but they usually get everything sent out before that.

manOFice

23-02-2009 18:38:08

[quote9238b123dd="tylerc"]They processed my certificates February 5th, and the lady I talked to said to allow 8-10 weeks as a cushion but they usually get everything sent out before that.[/quote9238b123dd]

Yeah, no one is even close to 8 weeks yet, if we go 11 weeks and see nothing then i'll start getting really pissed

oleus

23-02-2009 23:13:54

[quoteee5af59e20="tylerc"]They processed my certificates February 5th, and the lady I talked to said to allow 8-10 weeks as a cushion but they usually get everything sent out before that.[/quoteee5af59e20]

i was told the same thing. when i asked after i confirmed everything with them, the CSR told me it would almost definitely be less than 8-10 weeks before i saw my checks.

hawke12

24-02-2009 09:22:30

[quotef907868afc="oleus"][quotef907868afc="tylerc"]They processed my certificates February 5th, and the lady I talked to said to allow 8-10 weeks as a cushion but they usually get everything sent out before that.[/quotef907868afc]

i was told the same thing. when i asked after i confirmed everything with them, the CSR told me it would almost definitely be less than 8-10 weeks before i saw my checks.[/quotef907868afc]

Same as me, my certs were entered into the system like 5 days after mailing, and all was good, she used the term, "Allow 8 - 10 Weeks but Probably Sooner"

)

mookieb2

24-02-2009 12:21:08

Geting my final two (6 total) mailed off today. Cut it a little closer than I wanted because I had to wait for my tax return to fund this phase.

Either way, glad to be done and hopefully it will be closer to 6 weeks rather than 10.

supersponger1979

24-02-2009 12:23:51

I am sure this has already been covered...Is this the procedure for future ARG sites? Has anyone tried a new site since this redemption process? Thanks

Powerbook

24-02-2009 12:50:30

I talked to them on the phone, and they said they either did not receive my certs or didn't process them yet. I have delivery confirmation, so I know they received them. It has been two weeks, so I called like the support email said to make sure I have been approved. Now the girl told me to wait another 2 weeks to call and check. I wonder why the hell it takes that long to put them in the system. I better not lose out if they don't like me receipt or something.

freeipodplayer

24-02-2009 15:58:01

[quote30524a86da="supersponger1979"]I am sure this has already been covered...Is this the procedure for future ARG sites? Has anyone tried a new site since this redemption process? Thanks[/quote30524a86da]

For the time being it is procedure.

Page 3 credit won't credit (probably on purpose), and 5 weeks since certs sent to BR with no CTS or Mpell.

RolltheStampede

24-02-2009 15:59:54

guess you have to do sites that have no page 3 then

Eeyore

24-02-2009 17:30:47

[quote3f710260d1="Powerbook"]I have delivery confirmation, so I know they received them.[/quote3f710260d1]Just a point of order, but the mailing address is PO Box in Encinitas, so you really don't know if they received them or not, just that they made it that far.

I think you're the first one I've seen who they didn't immediately tell they had the certs and they were approved...

kinneylamb

24-02-2009 22:21:19

yea ever think of sending your certs again? if they're postmarked today you should be good..

and yes mpell is handling brandarama gift fulfillment from now on. that is the response brandarama has been giving people who asked.

Powerbook

25-02-2009 07:21:56

Is there any good rep there I can email? I keep getting the same woman on the phone. I really don't want to talk to her.

mookieb2

25-02-2009 08:27:27

Mailed. Whew. 4,025 worth.

Didn't think I was going to make it.

RolltheStampede

25-02-2009 09:48:03

Returned Postage FTL

dubbin87

25-02-2009 12:27:05

[quoteb7e15fb358="Powerbook"]Is there any good rep there I can email? I keep getting the same woman on the phone. I really don't want to talk to her.[/quoteb7e15fb358]scared of talking to girls? lol

ashilef

25-02-2009 12:33:24

[quote9e0c4a9e11="dubbin87"][quote9e0c4a9e11="Powerbook"]Is there any good rep there I can email? I keep getting the same woman on the phone. I really don't want to talk to her.[/quote9e0c4a9e11]scared of talking to girls? lol[/quote9e0c4a9e11]

Hmm, or perhaps he doesn't want to talk to her because he's been calling incessantly? P

tylerc

25-02-2009 12:34:57

Just e-mail email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email

I would assume it all goes into one e-mail pool and people just answer it when they can, I got a response within a day or two.

Powerbook

25-02-2009 12:47:45

LOL, I called twice. I called like 1 week after they got my stuff, then I called yesterday which marked two weeks. It was the same woman, and she remembered me. SHITS. I guess I will email them, but when I emailed them a couple weeks back about a question regarding a purchase the same girl I spoke to on the phone a couple weeks later answered. Haha.

tylerc

25-02-2009 13:53:18

Why does it matter who you talk to?

Powerbook

25-02-2009 14:50:55

[quoteafe86bb5a1="tylerc"]Why does it matter who you talk to?[/quoteafe86bb5a1]

That person is not helpful at all. She basically told me to ask again in 2-4 weeks. I'm just sending my stuff just in again just in case. I don't want to be like, oh we never got your stuff.

kinneylamb

25-02-2009 17:01:27

to freeipodplayer

can you let us know when you receive your mpell certificates? since you are the guinea pig at this, it would help us know the timeline etc. thanks

dubbin87

26-02-2009 03:43:14

[quote06b20543ce="Powerbook"][quote06b20543ce="tylerc"]Why does it matter who you talk to?[/quote06b20543ce]

That person is not helpful at all. She basically told me to ask again in 2-4 weeks. I'm just sending my stuff just in again just in case. I don't want to be like, oh we never got your stuff.[/quote06b20543ce]How do you plan on pulling that off? The cert they mailed you is the only one they are accepting.

fanofpurple

26-02-2009 04:10:58

[quoteaf8241dcfa="dubbin87"][quoteaf8241dcfa="Powerbook"][quoteaf8241dcfa="tylerc"]Why does it matter who you talk to?[/quoteaf8241dcfa]

That person is not helpful at all. She basically told me to ask again in 2-4 weeks. I'm just sending my stuff just in again just in case. I don't want to be like, oh we never got your stuff.[/quoteaf8241dcfa]How do you plan on pulling that off? The cert they mailed you is the only one they are accepting.[/quoteaf8241dcfa]

When I thought one of mine had been lost in the mail - I spoke to someone there and they said they realize things get lost, and that a copy would be fine - that is why they ask that we keep copies of everything.

FreeOffersNow

26-02-2009 06:14:07

[quoteb30525db93="Powerbook"][quoteb30525db93="tylerc"]Why does it matter who you talk to?[/quoteb30525db93]

That person is not helpful at all. She basically told me to ask again in 2-4 weeks. I'm just sending my stuff just in again just in case. I don't want to be like, oh we never got your stuff.[/quoteb30525db93]

You can fax your copies of your certificates/receipts. Call and ask for the fax #.

Powerbook

26-02-2009 09:35:58

[quote8cbb24b2c5="FreeOffersNow"][quote8cbb24b2c5="Powerbook"][quote8cbb24b2c5="tylerc"]Why does it matter who you talk to?[/quote8cbb24b2c5]

That person is not helpful at all. She basically told me to ask again in 2-4 weeks. I'm just sending my stuff just in again just in case. I don't want to be like, oh we never got your stuff.[/quote8cbb24b2c5]

You can fax your copies of your certificates/receipts. Call and ask for the fax #.[/quote8cbb24b2c5]

I said screw it, and I emailed them instead of calling them. I got the response that they processed everything. I hope it's true, and hopefully this money will come in 10 weeks. I need it for my LSAT prep. So far there is no reason to doubt that we will be getting paid. When that check comes I will be the happiest 20 year old ever. It will be my bailout.

manOFice

26-02-2009 10:11:14

[quotef7276b5bd7="Powerbook"][quotef7276b5bd7="FreeOffersNow"][quotef7276b5bd7="Powerbook"][quotef7276b5bd7="tylerc"]Why does it matter who you talk to?[/quotef7276b5bd7]

That person is not helpful at all. She basically told me to ask again in 2-4 weeks. I'm just sending my stuff just in again just in case. I don't want to be like, oh we never got your stuff.[/quotef7276b5bd7]

You can fax your copies of your certificates/receipts. Call and ask for the fax #.[/quotef7276b5bd7]

I said screw it, and I emailed them instead of calling them. I got the response that they processed everything. I hope it's true, and hopefully this money will come in 10 weeks. I need it for my LSAT prep. So far there is no reason to doubt that we will be getting paid. When that check comes I will be the happiest 20 year old ever. It will be my bailout.[/quotef7276b5bd7]

Not good to rely on it though but I hope you get yours in time!

neverendingmoolah

26-02-2009 10:32:21

I just called Mpell and was told my certs were processed on 2/6 and are now waiting for the checks to be sent out. I was told to give it 8-10 weeks from 2/6. Touche'

Powerbook

26-02-2009 12:58:37

It would be awesome if I get it before May. I kind of gave up on this, so if it does come I will be extremely happy.

skooter22c

28-02-2009 06:42:50

I mailed mine on January 29th and have called 3 times since then. Every time I get the, "your certificates have not been processed, please try back in a week!", finally this last time they did say if they have not been processed in a another week or two I can resubmit them. I will try the email route to see if I get another response, but I know they arrived to the address like Feb. 2nd.

bruman

28-02-2009 09:33:13

[quote18674959b3="skooter22c"]I mailed mine on January 29th and have called 3 times since then. Every time I get the, "your certificates have not been processed, please try back in a week!", finally this last time they did say if they have not been processed in a another week or two I can resubmit them. I will try the email route to see if I get another response, but I know they arrived to the address like Feb. 2nd.[/quote18674959b3]

How did you mail them? Priority with DC? or stamp?

kwoodyk34k

28-02-2009 21:07:43

[quote78a93173ab="freeipodplayer"][quote78a93173ab="supersponger1979"]I am sure this has already been covered...Is this the procedure for future ARG sites? Has anyone tried a new site since this redemption process? Thanks[/quote78a93173ab]

For the time being it is procedure.

Page 3 credit won't credit (probably on purpose), and 5 weeks since certs sent to BR with no CTS or Mpell.[/quote78a93173ab]

Page 3 credited for me...

And I sent a $250 Petco form to BR about 5-6 weeks ago as well. Still not CTS. It never took that long before I don't think.

And to anyone worried about, "What if they don't like my receipt," I spoke to Sylvia at Mpell and she said that if there is a problem with our forms they will call us and ask us to fix it.

I asked, "What about if it's past the postmarked date?" She said we would be allowed to correct it still as long as the original form was sent in on time. I do not know if this applies for invalid receipts or if it's just for mistakes or unclear information. I didn't think of asking.

I'm sure I'm not the only one with a telephone.

JANGALANG32

01-03-2009 10:47:06

fyi i emailed mpell asking if my forms were approved and i got a response back saying they are still waiting to hear from 2nd wind (used exercise equipment store) and then right after that i got another email that just said all my forms were approved.

the thing is i dont have anything to do with 2nd wind. i bought visa gift cards for my receipts so i am guessing they sent me an email that was supposed to go to someone else.

after thinking about the 2nd wind email it looks like they are calling to verify that online transactions are legit. as in, if someone ordered something online and getting an email receipt right away and then canceling the order before it even ships. seems to me they are calling these in to try to DQ people

Eeyore

01-03-2009 11:46:18

For something like used exercise equipment finding a 'retail' price to compare with is rather difficult so they might call or email the store to find out what a certain item might sell for. For a new item purchase from someplace like Amazon, Newegg or a retail store with an online presence such as Sears, Target or even WalliMart it's an easy peek at the item on the website to verify prices or find out if the item is even sold by that store. Some people are not above fraudulently doctoring invoices.

From a practical perspective, any legitimate store is not going to give out individual order information so there would be no way for Mpell to determine whether the item was returned or not. Providing that to them would be a fairly serious privacy policy issue.

Zags1199

01-03-2009 11:46:28

They might be trying that, but no company is going to give them information about someone else's order (at least I hope not). Plus, Mpell already told someone in this thread that they don't care if you return or cancel the order. They just want order confirmation.

bruman

01-03-2009 12:42:22

Mpell talks about other rebate fulfillment companies going bankrupt in their latest newsletter (dated less than 2 weeks ago, Feb 09)
http//www.mpellsolutions.com/newsletters/09-02-alert.html

edit actually they already did a Feb 09 newsletter, this is just a "special alert" type thing as they call it.

oleus

01-03-2009 14:16:02

i'll give mpell credit for being pretty up front as far as clearly laying out what they do is concerned.

kwoodyk34k

01-03-2009 19:35:16

Can someone tell me how much the 4 offer Macbook on Brandarama.com is worth?

I just completed it and they want me to send in a W-9.
I highly doubt it's worth $600+ since it was only 4 offers..
(not to mention they don't even use the W-9's now)

That would be nice though.
So, who got the MPell cert and how much was it for?

Thanks!

kinneylamb

01-03-2009 19:46:52

what is the model?

bruman

01-03-2009 20:11:21

I dont recall a 4 offer macbook... do you mean mac mini?

If so, looking back someone mentioned it was for exactly $600

[quotea895970e07]Kodak easyshare v570 = $340.
Mac mini1.5 = $600
Weber Platinum Grill = $700.
Toshiba Tecra = $1000
Canon SD550 = $350[/quotea895970e07]

Eeyore

01-03-2009 20:31:54

[quote2f17260e42="kwoodyk34k"]Can someone tell me how much the 4 offer Macbook on Brandarama.com is worth?

I just completed it and they want me to send in a W-9.
I highly doubt it's worth $600+ since it was only 4 offers..
(not to mention they don't even use the W-9's now)

That would be nice though.
So, who got the MPell cert and how much was it for?

Thanks![/quote2f17260e42]
The cheapest Macbook is $1000 new. If you meant the Mac Mini that certificate was issued for $600.

kwoodyk34k

01-03-2009 23:06:00

Sorry everyone, it was the Mac Mini.
Wow, awesome.

Thanks again.

TravMan162

02-03-2009 09:08:06

you should still be claiming that on your taxes anyway

bruman

02-03-2009 16:37:29

Someone on JC called Mpell and they told him ALL checks will be mailed together in the beginning of April (regardless of processing date).

So I guess the countdown begins )

ghounds07

02-03-2009 17:03:45

Dang, I was hoping they would send them out earlier like someone elses post stated. Oh well though...

tiffrnwhitney

02-03-2009 18:08:39

I have been told that it would be processed from the time my certificates were approved. I also asked via email if maybe the checks would be mailed earlier than the 8-10 weeks. I was told that it may be sooner. I was also told not to check on the status of the checks until after the 10 week time frame that it was taking their time away from processing paperwork and checks. I have contacted them very little. Whatever

steveyankee

02-03-2009 18:53:11

I was told that it could take up to 20 weeks because of the unexpected large amount of certs they got.

bruman

02-03-2009 18:59:53

[quote36d8ab1ef8="steveyankee"]I was told that it could take up to 20 weeks because of the unexpected large amount of certs they got.[/quote36d8ab1ef8]

That's a joke right?

beerman

02-03-2009 19:19:08

Its been well over 70 since CTS, what's another 20? )

freeipodplayer

02-03-2009 19:45:18

[quotef412d675f7="steveyankee"]I was told that it could take up to 20 weeks because of the unexpected large amount of certs they got.[/quotef412d675f7]

Yep, they told me 10-20 weeks today. (

sUrface1080

02-03-2009 20:03:58

OMG 20 WEEKS

WTF

bruman

02-03-2009 20:09:25

Wow... that's real lame.
What can't they do in 10 weeks (2 1/2 months) that they can do in 20 weeks?

If all they need to do is write us checks.

dubbin87

02-03-2009 20:16:20

[quoteaf48e51c67="bruman"]Wow... that's real lame.
What can't they do in 10 weeks (2 1/2 months) that they can do in 20 weeks?

If all they need to do is write us checks.[/quoteaf48e51c67]

ask BR that. lol

johnnyc

02-03-2009 20:29:44

i just talked to a really friendly girl named sarah earlier to confirm my certificate. she said that everything went fine and they recieved it feb 23. i asked if i would recieve it by the beginning of april and she said thats a likely possibility and the latest would probably be end of april.

but she also said that mpell usually ships out checks way before the 8-10 week window but braderama is doing things different and are going to send out the checks to mpell in steps according to last names at specific dates so she isnt entirely sure yet but its not to exceed the window frame

johnnyc

02-03-2009 20:31:33

whoa i just read the above posts saying they said 10-20 weeks?
wtf sarah told me today at 5 that it owuld be sooner then 8-10?

bruman

02-03-2009 20:34:34

I really really hope it's not 20.

I sent an e-mail to them yesterday at around 3 PM to confirm my certs were approved and I also asked them about shipping times. I'll let you know when I get a response tomorrow (assuming they are still responding within 24 hours)

zr2152

02-03-2009 20:36:08

[quotee84320fbfc="johnnyc"]i just talked to a really friendly girl named sarah earlier to confirm my certificate. she said that everything went fine and they recieved it feb 23. i asked if i would recieve it by the beginning of april and she said thats a [be84320fbfc]likely possibility[/be84320fbfc] and the latest would probably be end of april.

but she also said that mpell usually ships out checks way before the 8-10 week window but braderama is doing things different and are going to send out the checks to mpell in steps according to last names at specific dates so she isnt entirely sure yet but its not to exceed the window frame[/quotee84320fbfc]

You said likely possibility. Also, you can use the edit button instead of double posting.

That sucks that is is now about 20 weeks. I'm guessing they didn't expect to receive as many certificates as they did...lol.

dubbin87

02-03-2009 20:40:00

[quote2073c02abc="johnnyc"]i just talked to a really friendly girl named sarah earlier to confirm my certificate. she said that everything went fine and they recieved it feb 23. i asked if i would recieve it by the beginning of april and she said thats a likely possibility and the latest would probably be end of april.

but she also said that mpell usually ships out checks way before the 8-10 week window but braderama is doing things different and are going to send out the checks to mpell in steps [b2073c02abc]according to last names at specific dates[/b2073c02abc] so she isnt entirely sure yet but its not to exceed the window frame[/quote2073c02abc]

whoo hoo for having a last name higher up in the alphabet! 8)

steveyankee

02-03-2009 20:48:27

I think they are not trying to cause panic.

I don't want to get the person in trouble, but when I asked if it would really be 8-10 weeks (i talked about how BR said that too, blah blah) there was a pause, then she said "ill be honest, we have been getting way more than we can handle at the time being, so don't be shocked if it's over 10 weeks, but no more than 20"

I thought I was the only one who was told that since it sounded like she didn't want to tell me in the first place. I guess not.

dubbin87

02-03-2009 21:03:17

oh boy stun

ghounds07

02-03-2009 22:25:55

Why do all of these companies suck with date estimates? I mean seriously the people who run these companies are borderline retarded.

JANGALANG32

02-03-2009 22:51:07

wow, this is bad news...it looks like we are back to waiting for brandarama again. why did they even use mpell? what is mpell doing that brandarama didnt already know? brandarama knows they owe a lot of stuff to people so why involve mpell? i can understand that they are hoping people didnt send in their certs but most people are owed a lot of money ($5,000+) and are not going to walk away from that.

the good thing is if brandarama was going to screw us over they would of never took the mpell route in the 1st place. they would of just screwed us over so i think our money is coming its just a matter of when

ploppsdman

02-03-2009 23:28:17

Wow.

So Mpell doesn't even have the money yet? We're not getting this.

ploppsdman

02-03-2009 23:30:09

If I were running a pyramid scheme and wanted to finish strong, I'd get a legitimate company to do something like this, take what I can from the increase in traffic from those who had quit, and declare bankruptcy in April.

Mpell is not liable, as its stated on the certificate.

Are you sure she said Brandarama will be sending checks to them by last name? That would mean to me that they don't have the money and this new time frame is a stall hoping Brandarama pays them ....

kinneylamb

03-03-2009 00:22:55

[quote6fc45b5283="steveyankee"]I was told that it could take up to 20 weeks because of the unexpected large amount of certs they got.[/quote6fc45b5283]

brandarama really left them out of the loop on what kind of volume they might be getting..

[quote6fc45b5283="bruman"]Someone on JC called Mpell and they told him ALL checks will be mailed together in the beginning of April (regardless of processing date).

So I guess the countdown begins )[/quote6fc45b5283]

right so what happened to this guy? whos to believe one or the other anymore?

RolltheStampede

03-03-2009 06:16:22

MY buddy was told the April thing as well. What sucks is if they are shipping by name that would mean my friend who sent his certs in last week with a last name of B would get his before mine which got there the end of January.

oleus

03-03-2009 08:50:01

ugh...this is the beginning of the ever-increasing wait time. they may send some out at the beginning of april but i would not be surprised if people down the alphabet don't have anything by midsummer...

very frustrating. i should have known better than to charge all of these purchases.

oleus

03-03-2009 08:52:30

[quote38ef7ba035="ploppsdman"]If I were running a pyramid scheme and wanted to finish strong, I'd get a legitimate company to do something like this, take what I can from the increase in traffic from those who had quit, and declare bankruptcy in April.

Mpell is not liable, as its stated on the certificate.

Are you sure she said Brandarama will be sending checks to them by last name? That would mean to me that they don't have the money and this new time frame is a stall hoping Brandarama pays them ....[/quote38ef7ba035]

i think this post probably nailed it.

my last name is "S" and now that we know that it's still BR/YTB holding the money, i really doubt i am getting anything now. this is YTB drawing this out with plans of bankruptcy before everyone is paid.

they probably had no idea so many of us would take them up on this "pay up front" method.

steveyankee

03-03-2009 10:39:29

[quotea208c772a1="oleus"][quotea208c772a1="ploppsdman"]If I were running a pyramid scheme and wanted to finish strong, I'd get a legitimate company to do something like this, take what I can from the increase in traffic from those who had quit, and declare bankruptcy in April.

Mpell is not liable, as its stated on the certificate.

Are you sure she said Brandarama will be sending checks to them by last name? That would mean to me that they don't have the money and this new time frame is a stall hoping Brandarama pays them ....[/quotea208c772a1]

i think this post probably nailed it.

my last name is "S" and now that we know that it's still BR/YTB holding the money, i really doubt i am getting anything now. this is YTB drawing this out with plans of bankruptcy before everyone is paid.

they probably had no idea so many of us would take them up on this "pay up front" method.[/quotea208c772a1]

Exactly. If I get it, then great. If not, oh well. I never planned on getting the money from BR anyway.

jtackman

03-03-2009 10:47:02

I guess we are screwed then. what a joke

skooter22c

03-03-2009 10:51:21

I mailed my paperwork on Jan. 29th, priority mail with delivery confirmation. I know the paperwork made it to CA on Jan. 31st. So that is why I am concerned. Other people who say they sent their certs in after me are saying they are being told they are processed. They can't even "verify" they "received" my paperwork, let alone processed. So I wait on.

bruman

03-03-2009 11:19:28

So much pessimism.. you guys really brighten up the day.
There's no real evidence at all to suggest that we won't receive our gifts so you guys really are freaking out about nothing. Have you guys contacted mpell yourselves (we haven't heard a definite answer, people are saying different things) or why are you so quick to just throw in the towel.

It's hilarious, it really is. It's almost like you guys want a closure on this so bad to the point where you don't even want your rightfully-earned gifts anymore. Be patient, friends.

Eeyore

03-03-2009 11:30:02

They are amusing to read though. Cackling like a bunch of hens every time something bumps the coop.

jtackman

03-03-2009 11:31:46

If an employee said something like that in the first place, your telling me that wouldn't bother you just a bit? im sure they wouldn't have said brandarama didn't pay them unless they really didnt.

RyanG

03-03-2009 11:31:47

[quotea0ce89c57a="Eeyore"]They are amusing to read though. Cackling like a bunch of hens every time something bumps the coop.[/quotea0ce89c57a]

lol such a great metaphor

Eeyore

03-03-2009 11:54:16

[quotea1dacd6ccc="jtackman"]If an employee said something like that in the first place, your telling me that wouldn't bother you just a bit? im sure they wouldn't have said brandarama didn't pay them unless they really didnt.[/quotea1dacd6ccc]We don't even know that anyone said any such thing. If I wanted to troll here I would start making stuff like that up and watch the carnage.

The CSRs on the phone don't make policy, and Mpell is a little more established than many of these freebie companies. They have a lot more to lose than ARG does if they screw this pooch.

I guarantee you that had they not gotten Mpell involved nobody would be getting anything. ARG is being bitched at incessantly from the other end about missing ad payments. Mpell would have been extremely negligent to not vet ARG before extending them any credit, and the original information about this program stated Mpell is paid at a discount for the certificates sent upfront.

But carry on...as I said above it's an entertaining read.

jtackman

03-03-2009 12:08:24

Take a look at this thread and the recent posts

http//www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552220

Eeyore

03-03-2009 12:11:42

That's the stuff I was talking about...

manOFice

03-03-2009 12:15:58

eh, i've been waiting years for these gifts, I can wait another couple months.

oleus

03-03-2009 12:18:25

the only thing keeping me from being absolutely irate about this is the fact i used my certficates on some big ticket items i needed to buy anyway.

still, this seems to me to be shaping up into the same waiting game we were all in before. they have totally left the door open for that with their recent comments to people on this board.....

steveyankee

03-03-2009 12:31:51

[quoted0c9d1d4ae="RyanG"][quoted0c9d1d4ae="Eeyore"]They are amusing to read though. Cackling like a bunch of hens every time something bumps the coop.[/quoted0c9d1d4ae]

lol such a great metaphor[/quoted0c9d1d4ae]

That is pretty funny o

ghounds07

03-03-2009 13:42:24

Spoke with a supervisor, stated I should still be within the 8-10 week timeframe.

Will call again in 6 weeks.

zr2152

03-03-2009 14:27:55

[quoteec699b147a="ghounds07"]Spoke with a supervisor, stated I should still be within the 8-10 week timeframe.

Will call again in 6 weeks.[/quoteec699b147a]

Why not call after the 10 weeks since they told you you should still be within the time frame?

dubbin87

03-03-2009 14:35:11

[quote16cffce784="zr2152"][quote16cffce784="ghounds07"]Spoke with a supervisor, stated I should still be within the 8-10 week timeframe.

Will call again in 6 weeks.[/quote16cffce784]

Why not call after the 10 weeks since they told you you should still be within the time frame?[/quote16cffce784]

Do you really have to ask why? lol After what got posted yesterday I'm sure Mpell had a influx of calls/emails today about "extended time" and "checks coming from BR" lol

zr2152

03-03-2009 14:37:28

[quote34c89d0c0e="dubbin87"][quote34c89d0c0e="zr2152"][quote34c89d0c0e="ghounds07"]Spoke with a supervisor, stated I should still be within the 8-10 week timeframe.

Will call again in 6 weeks.[/quote34c89d0c0e]

Why not call after the 10 weeks since they told you you should still be within the time frame?[/quote34c89d0c0e]

Do you really have to ask why? lol After what got posted yesterday I'm sure Mpell had a influx of calls/emails today about "extended time" and "checks coming from BR" lol[/quote34c89d0c0e]

I guess everyone wants to slow them down. I don't want to hear about how customer service is there to answer questions because all people are doing is annoying them. You'll get it when you get it.

ghounds07

03-03-2009 14:44:21

[quote8f8aab0350="zr2152"][quote8f8aab0350="ghounds07"]Spoke with a supervisor, stated I should still be within the 8-10 week timeframe.

Will call again in 6 weeks.[/quote8f8aab0350]

Why not call after the 10 weeks since they told you you should still be within the time frame?[/quote8f8aab0350]

Because in 6 weeks I will be out of the 8-10 week time frame.

zr2152

03-03-2009 14:55:59

[quotebfefb4bfe0="ghounds07"][quotebfefb4bfe0="zr2152"][quotebfefb4bfe0="ghounds07"]Spoke with a supervisor, stated I should still be within the 8-10 week timeframe.

Will call again in 6 weeks.[/quotebfefb4bfe0]

Why not call after the 10 weeks since they told you you should still be within the time frame?[/quotebfefb4bfe0]

Because in 6 weeks I will be out of the 8-10 week time frame.[/quotebfefb4bfe0]

gotcha. Must have misread it. sorry.

ghounds07

03-03-2009 15:08:11

It's all good, I just hope they stick to the time frame, I'm strapped for cash right now and need that grand hah..

FreeOffersNow

03-03-2009 15:33:02

Got my check today in Western New York (all amounts are combined into one). Came FedEx Express....NOT USPS.

slambam

03-03-2009 15:42:02

[quote6418decbb1="FreeOffersNow"]Got my check today in Western New York (all amounts are combined into one). Came FedEx Express....NOT USPS.[/quote6418decbb1]

Don't you go lying on me...

wiebelhaus03

03-03-2009 15:43:34

give us the fedex tracking number and block out your address if you want

slambam

03-03-2009 15:47:29

Yea or a pic of the check with your address and micr numbers blacked out.

jtackman

03-03-2009 16:09:32

I'll bet $25 that hes lying

MamaToldMeDIY

03-03-2009 16:25:40

There's no way he got it, living in NY when the company is in LA.

the people on here in Cali should have got their's first....you would think.

LIES!

mariners1999

03-03-2009 16:46:03

[quote60d04ca97a="FreeOffersNow"]Got my check today in Western New York (all amounts are combined into one). Came FedEx Express....NOT USPS.[/quote60d04ca97a]

WOW ..... ME TOO!!! They even added a few extra thousand since they felt bad about how long I waited.

roll

mistertomlinson

03-03-2009 16:50:43

[quotef40ff80016="mariners1999"][quotef40ff80016="FreeOffersNow"]Got my check today in Western New York (all amounts are combined into one). Came FedEx Express....NOT USPS.[/quotef40ff80016]

WOW ..... ME TOO!!! They even added a few extra thousand since they felt bad about how long I waited.

roll[/quotef40ff80016]

I got a god damn box of saltine crackers!

ploppsdman

03-03-2009 17:08:59

None of this makes any sense. If freeoffersnow did receive something, was it from mpell? This is really annoying. Tell us you are going to reimburse or tell us you aren't .... I'd prefer honesty to this.

FreeOffersNow

03-03-2009 17:18:03

lol...read the subject line of my post.

ashilef

03-03-2009 17:26:55

[quote7da9c8a568="FreeOffersNow"]lol...read the subject line of my post.[/quote7da9c8a568]

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kwoodyk34k

03-03-2009 17:27:17

[quote62c1126dfc="FreeOffersNow"]lol...read the subject line of my post.[/quote62c1126dfc]

good one...?

ploppsdman

03-03-2009 17:30:23

[quoteff0052343b="FreeOffersNow"]lol...read the subject line of my post.[/quoteff0052343b]

I doubt anyone here is in the mood for learning new words right now ... please edit your post so no one gets excited for a second only to learn you were being a douche.

oleus

03-03-2009 17:43:15

at this point if they actually told someone "20 weeks", my guess is that they might be scared that BR/YTB is pulling a fast one on them.

i'll be happy if it's 20 weeks if it means they'll pay, the fact that it's BR that's still doling out the money has me very worried.

if you guys want to keep saying "relax" that's fine, you must be more trusting of brandarama than i am.

bruman

03-03-2009 18:40:16

[quote5513ae3631="oleus"]at this point if they actually told someone "20 weeks", my guess is that they might be scared that BR/YTB is pulling a fast one on them.

i'll be happy if it's 20 weeks if it means they'll pay, the fact that it's BR that's still doling out the money has me very worried.

if you guys want to keep saying "relax" that's fine, you must be more trusting of brandarama than i am.[/quote5513ae3631]

I don't think ARG would flick with another company. An individual, sure, they could just easily give them the run around. But they entered into a contract with mpell and I'm sure signed a lot of paperwork. ARG is still a very well financed company, they have plenty of money. They are still getting 500,000+ hits per month on their sites... they recently started advertising their sites again through hydranetwork, and so forth. They wouldn't be doing that if they were planning on closing up shop. We're in our tight little bubble here but as many others have noted we still represent a tiny fraction of ARG's traffic.. people forget that.

dubbin87

03-03-2009 19:23:30

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd it starts all over again.

FreeOffersNow

03-03-2009 20:32:44

lol. lighten up fools.

Eeyore

03-03-2009 20:50:07

Really. It seems that they thrive on made-up drama.

ashilef

03-03-2009 20:58:34

[quote4117a6a48a="FreeOffersNow"]lol. lighten up fools.[/quote4117a6a48a]

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oleus

03-03-2009 21:18:35

i truly hope i'm just being paranoid.

bennyboy5768

03-03-2009 21:20:49

[quoteab56923ea7="FreeOffersNow"]Got my check today in Western New York (all amounts are combined into one). Came FedEx Express....NOT USPS.[/quoteab56923ea7]

zomg! Pics or it never happened!

http//dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/broma[]http//dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/broma

Zags1199

04-03-2009 00:00:28

[quote605633a90f="bruman"]they recently started advertising their sites again through hydranetwork, and so forth.[/quote605633a90f]

FWIW, I think they own or have something to do with Hydra Network. Back when I first started doing Brandarama in 2007, I did a whois on yourtopbrands.com, and the registrant was Hydra Network (they've since changed it). Plus, if you click on Publishers on YTB, it takes you to Hydra. So they aren't necessarily spending any money on advertising.

mistertomlinson

04-03-2009 01:48:13

[quoteec18a02a19="bennyboy5768"][quoteec18a02a19="FreeOffersNow"]Got my check today in Western New York (all amounts are combined into one). Came FedEx Express....NOT USPS.[/quoteec18a02a19]

zomg! Pics or it never happened!

http//dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/broma[]http//dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/broma[/quoteec18a02a19]

http//www.wagglepop.com/auction/images" alt=""/imgupld/415855_1.jpg[/imgec18a02a19]

doylnea

04-03-2009 06:54:35

[quotefabcb1d018="Zags1199"][quotefabcb1d018="bruman"]they recently started advertising their sites again through hydranetwork, and so forth.[/quotefabcb1d018]

FWIW, I think they own or have something to do with Hydra Network. Back when I first started doing Brandarama in 2007, I did a whois on yourtopbrands.com, and the registrant was Hydra Network (they've since changed it). Plus, if you click on Publishers on YTB, it takes you to Hydra. So they aren't necessarily spending any money on advertising.[/quotefabcb1d018]

Hydra is the CPA arm of ARG.

RolltheStampede

04-03-2009 07:43:09

I heard every time brandarama writes a check, an angel gets its wings..

ashilef

04-03-2009 11:30:56

[quote330bdb3bf1="RolltheStampede"]I heard every time brandarama writes a check, an angel gets its wings..[/quote330bdb3bf1]

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terryishere

04-03-2009 11:46:09

hahahaa love the pic !!!!

MamaToldMeDIY

04-03-2009 12:36:39

[quote220f9a432b="RolltheStampede"]I heard every time brandarama writes a check, an angel gets its wings..[/quote220f9a432b]

No wonder nobody has ever REALLY seen an angel fly.

JANGALANG32

04-03-2009 15:20:12

everone should be disappointed brandarama is who we are waiting on still...i do believe we will get our gifts soon but knowing we have to wait for brandarama to send out the checks is disappointing. i dont think brandarama would of taken this far if they planned to screw us over

kwoodyk34k

04-03-2009 15:41:34

I sent mpell a polite email to ask if they have already received any money at all from ARG. My response was "we are not at liberty to discuss financial arrangements at this time. Thank you."

kwoodyk34k

04-03-2009 15:44:17

^ not saying that it necessarily means anything bad but I just figured I'd go ahead and ask...

neverendingmoolah

04-03-2009 16:21:30

Okay, so we WAIT.....

LucaBella

04-03-2009 17:34:02

like you knew we would.... they gave us 30 days, and they're gonna take their sweet time.. just like always...

mistertomlinson

04-03-2009 18:16:39

I really don't care as long as I DO get my $5,000. I can wait a couple months...

TravMan162

04-03-2009 20:44:15

This thread stopped being useful so long ago

ghounds07

04-03-2009 21:21:08

heyo, wrong thread.

dktsung1

05-03-2009 18:16:51

hi
all

that could be a good reason why they are using mpell and not paying out yet

reason

TransTech Services Partners Inc. and Active Response Group, Inc. Agree to Extend Letter of Intent






NEW YORK, Feb. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TransTech Services Partners Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board TTSPU) ("TransTech") a special purpose acquisition company, today announced that TransTech entered into an amendment of its LOI with Active Response Group, Inc. ("ARG"), extending the date of expiration of the exclusivity period under the LOI to February 13, 2009. The terms of the amended LOI provide that if, by February 13, 2009, definitive agreements are not executed and delivered and a substantially final form of proxy statement is not ready for filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the exclusivity period under the LOI shall expire, allowing either party to terminate the LOI if it no longer wishes to proceed with the transaction. Consummation of the proposed business combination between TransTech and ARG is subject to completion of due diligence by TransTech and receipt of requisite shareholder approval.


shock

tylerc

05-03-2009 18:37:28

?

mistertomlinson

05-03-2009 18:48:44

If I'm reading that correctly... it means absolutely nothing.

It's now March 5th and they are still obviously in agreement. That article refers to an expiration date of February 13.

kinneylamb

05-03-2009 19:55:13

if ARG was in trouble financially, they'd have filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and/or shut down or limited its services somehow, point blank. we recently lost a bunch of good magazines because the debt of the company was too much to operate, and the debt originated from a loan in the first place. similar to ARG, except they're afloat and chugging along with no signals of trouble. their wait for gifts got to be too long, but moneywise, they've been doing something right.

ploppsdman

05-03-2009 20:57:25

If they used Mpell to move all their debt off the books, I wonder if that paper shuffling would help them .. regardless if they pay the debt.

Eeyore

05-03-2009 21:03:45

That was the third extension of the LoI from November. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they weren't waiting out the results of the Mpell redemption and fulfillment before they consummate the agreement. If anything that gives ARG a strong incentive to git er done.

While you wait, here's a picture of Brad Powers to use as a dart board. He's ARG's CEO.

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oleus

05-03-2009 22:00:29

wow, that guy has that "i have your money, loser" look on his face.

we ain't seeing jack lililili fellas!

MamaToldMeDIY

06-03-2009 03:12:31

hahaha^

Yea, I see that caption "YOU GONNA GET RAPED" when I see that picture.

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teneightot

06-03-2009 11:06:51

if i just received my actual form...is there any way i can still get my money since the actual date is already experied? this freaking sucks!!#@!#

RolltheStampede

06-03-2009 11:09:27

if you just got it you should call them and tell them you just got it and they should send out new forms with new date son them

ghounds07

06-03-2009 11:17:25

RTS...did you make that new avatar...hah

RolltheStampede

06-03-2009 11:36:08

no just found it online somewhere, and i think my job blocks it cause i cant even see it ATM

doylnea

06-03-2009 12:53:56

[quote17bc8eb716="teneightot"]if i just received my actual form...is there any way i can still get my money since the actual date is already experied? this freaking sucks!!#@!#[/quote17bc8eb716]

karma's a bitch.

Remember when we banned you for being an asshole to Molly from Ideal?

yeah, I do too.

ghounds07

06-03-2009 14:48:51

lol

dubbin87

06-03-2009 15:59:54

rofl

Swat1

07-03-2009 00:28:29

why do i feel like mpell will tak emore than 4-8 weeks? o rwahtever they said...

wiebelhaus03

07-03-2009 00:40:23

someone sounds drunk.....

mistertomlinson

07-03-2009 05:50:19

Suriously.

oleus

07-03-2009 07:45:05

[quote90c5496e34="Swat1"]why do i feel like mpell will tak emore than 4-8 weeks? o rwahtever they said...[/quote90c5496e34]

because Mpell told a couple of people it's going to take 20 weeks and that "brandarama is going to send out gifts by last name on a rolling basis", making it sound like we're back to the drawing board waiting on BR/YTB to pay up.

Seems like Mpell just handled this certificate authentication and has nothing to do with getting us our money now.

ploppsdman

07-03-2009 12:17:18

[quotebe3cd1d65d="oleus"][quotebe3cd1d65d="Swat1"]why do i feel like mpell will tak emore than 4-8 weeks? o rwahtever they said...[/quotebe3cd1d65d]

because Mpell told a couple of people it's going to take 20 weeks and that "brandarama is going to send out gifts by last name on a rolling basis", making it sound like we're back to the drawing board waiting on BR/YTB to pay up.

Seems like Mpell just handled this certificate authentication and has nothing to do with getting us our money now.[/quotebe3cd1d65d]

Based on my conversations with mpell, this seems to be what's going on. I have no idea what the point was of bringing mpell into this. My guess to look good for potential investors and getting people who have quit doing brandarama sites back into the fold. Another guess is that this eliminates people who did not fill out the forms or fill them properly, etc, and you do this because the reward is larger than the cost (ie mpell's service fee). If the reward is large enough, than you ship some gifts and again, get people to do more of your sites (and I imagine that's where the rolling shipping dates based on last names come in - oddly enough, similar to what people have assumed about brandarama, that they go by initials for shipping. Whether that's a coincidence, who cares). Based on what others have posted in other forums as well, I do not believe mpell has been paid by brandarama, other than whatever was required up front for their "authentication" services, such as they are. I am reasonably convinced this is going to get ugly in April. A few people will get checks, but I doubt it will be because their last name starts with an A. They'll just get them. Mpell is going to get toasted online but they are not liable and will just blame brandarama (despite the fact they should have checked who they were getting into business with and then demanded up front payment) and some of us will be in trouble after fronting money we didn't have to spend.

bruman

07-03-2009 12:47:32

I think you guys are paranoid. Who cares if ARG didn't pay mpell beforehand? Obviously they are basing the payment on how many people submit their forms and they would have no way of knowing that until they are all collected and counted for. You guys are acting like ARG is broke and has no money to send for our gifts. This is obviously not the case and they would have never gotten mpell into this if they didn't have the money to pay them. Think about it from a business perspective, they are. These pessimistic scenarios really don't have any substance to them. I know there's a lot of anxiety about the economy and finances right now and that's basically all you hear on the news but try to put things in perspective.

ploppsdman

07-03-2009 13:34:19

[quoteb8e70b181c="bruman"]I think you guys are paranoid. Who cares if ARG didn't pay mpell beforehand? Obviously they are basing the payment on how many people submit their forms and they would have no way of knowing that until they are all collected and counted for. You guys are acting like ARG is broke and has no money to send for our gifts. This is obviously not the case and they would have never gotten mpell into this if they didn't have the money to pay them. Think about it from a business perspective, they are. These pessimistic scenarios really don't have any substance to them. I know there's a lot of anxiety about the economy and finances right now and that's basically all you hear on the news but try to put things in perspective.[/quoteb8e70b181c]

I would argue that pessimism has a foundation whereas your optimism has none. I would point to what we've read from other posters (the date now changing from 8-10 to now 20 weeks for shipping) and the last few years with brandaramas shipping schedule (ie very random and rare, especially in the last year). And if mpell has not been paid, there's no reason to expect brandarama to pay. We were all under the assumption that mpell made their money based on breakage. If that's the case, why would brandarama not have paid them already? The only circumstance that allows for optimism is that mpell has been involved, but that gets trumped by the fact that by sending in your certificates, you can't hold mpell liable.

My guess is that brandarama wanted to see just how much money they would have to pay out. Now that they see, their response is the same as before delay.

Outside of mpell, nothing has changed.

Eeyore

07-03-2009 14:03:11

This thread has now descended into a bunch of hearsay speculation and zero facts. There is no firsthand evidence of anything other than what was printed on the Mpell letters and forms, and Mpell is on the hook to make this good. Everything else is one person posting on a web forum and 100 repeating it. The "20 week" speculation is evidently due to some weary customer service person on the phone venting her weariness, as any such official information would not be so given. Nevermind there is conflicting information from the same source. Similarly with whether or not Mpell has been paid by ARG. They certainly would not be giving that out over the phone to some random caller.

Unless someone who works there posts here directly and officially it's nothing but wild-ass guesses.

You all can continue the useless drama, but it serves no purpose other than causing unnecessary anxiety.

ploppsdman

07-03-2009 14:40:33

[quote13c25b9047="Eeyore"]This thread has now descended into a bunch of hearsay speculation and zero facts. There is no firsthand evidence of anything other than what was printed on the Mpell letters and forms, and Mpell is on the hook to make this good. Everything else is one person posting on a web forum and 100 repeating it. The "20 week" speculation is evidently due to some weary customer service person on the phone venting her weariness, as any such official information would not be so given. Nevermind there is conflicting information from the same source. Similarly with whether or not Mpell has been paid by ARG. They certainly would not be giving that out over the phone to some random caller.

Unless someone who works there posts here directly and officially it's nothing but wild-ass guesses.

You all can continue the useless drama, but it serves no purpose other than causing unnecessary anxiety.[/quote13c25b9047]

Several people posted that they were told about it turning into 20 weeks. That's not due to some "weary customer service rep." Another person noted that brandrama has not paid mpell. You're speculating that that never happened, how could they tell them that? Im unsure what you expect, but these are all indications of problems. Not PROOF of problems, but indicators, and you're not going to get proof until April comes, but you SHOULD be prepared. Sticking your head in the sand and saying these are all wild-ass guesses is your call. And if you read those forms, you would know mpell is not on the hook for anything.

Now, what can we do about any of this? That's what should be at issue. Outside of having a letter to the NY attorney general ready, what else can you do to prepare? Have a letter to BBB about Mpell's failure to know who they were getting into business with? It's best to have this and not need it, then to scramble after the fact.

Eeyore

07-03-2009 17:51:24

Nothing you "think" will make any difference, and your reasons for expecting disaster are purely speculative since none of the basis is stronger than mere rumor.

Mpell's business reputation is on the line and there is evidence that they take it seriously, while ARG clearly doesn't care about theirs. You can bet that Mpell is not going to take one for ARG here.

Letters to the NY AG will get you nowhere, but go ahead and exercise your right to write them.

It's all just idle gossip at this point. If nobody has gotten anything at 10 weeks (which my calendar says is the second week of April for the earliest possible redemption but more like the first of May) then maybe it's worth the energy. Right now, not so much. I've got better things to do.

TravMan162

07-03-2009 18:02:58

[quote440d2eae5b="TravMan162"]This thread stopped being useful so long ago[/quote440d2eae5b]


srsly


I'm starting to think no one has anything valuable to do with their time. They said 8-10 weeks. Give them 8-10 weeks. If that passes, then start crying. Christ. It's been one week. I can't wait to see what happens a month from now

LucaBella

07-03-2009 18:19:49

People want to talk about this, people are nervous, and people want to be assured that it will all work out, and guess what, if it doesn't, people want a place to bitch.

This is it.

jtackman

07-03-2009 19:14:51

I hope mpell sues the balls out of ARG if they dont pay and then 10,000 people file BBB complaints...i bet they would file a lawsuit real quickly. but if brandarama decided to go bankrupt or something what would they care.

TravMan162

07-03-2009 21:35:34

talking about it is one thing, but having an opinion on something and then falsely claiming it as fact in order to make everyone else share your panic is another

slambam

07-03-2009 22:54:56

Did you guys REALLY expect them to pay in full before all the certs had been sent in? Gimme a break, they had no clue how many certs would actually be sent in, so why they hell would they even attempt paying ahead of time? Obviously I'm sure they paid a portion ahead, but there's no way they paid the full amount. I called this 3 weeks ago!

[quotee9303564f1="slambam"]If I was a betting man, I'd say that after the 30 day deadline to get forms in, mpell figures out how much they owe people (the total $ value of all the redeemed certificates). Then they get a check from Brandarama + 5-10% or whatever they agreed upon. Brandarama has like 4 weeks to get a check to mpell. Which puts them right at beginning of the 8-10 weeks that when we are supposed to get reimbursed. Just my guess, since it seems like mpell is more than happy to help us out, and Brandarama doesn't seem to want to help.[/quotee9303564f1]

RolltheStampede

08-03-2009 00:21:42

go ahead and bitch, gives me something to read on a boring work day

mistertomlinson

08-03-2009 06:22:31

I'm just trying to get my post count up.

terryishere

08-03-2009 19:34:18

hahaha

TravMan162

08-03-2009 19:37:07

[quote4b6ed8dba1="mistertomlinson"]I'm just trying to get my post count up.[/quote4b6ed8dba1]

[quote4b6ed8dba1="terryishere"]hahaha[/quote4b6ed8dba1]

so is she ?

doylnea

08-03-2009 20:09:10

y tu?

TravMan162

08-03-2009 20:11:34

haha, maybe, I've been here like a year and a half. My post count is grossly inflated

mistertomlinson

09-03-2009 02:03:08

[quotecd7304573b="TravMan162"][quotecd7304573b="mistertomlinson"]I'm just trying to get my post count up.[/quotecd7304573b]

[quotecd7304573b="terryishere"]hahaha[/quotecd7304573b]

so is she ?[/quotecd7304573b]

HA!

cronerd

09-03-2009 02:32:10

haha wow this thread is still going, i believe we all fooled ourselves when we thought a company can pay $500 for 3 offers, were all users admit it roll

HYPE.

09-03-2009 08:49:38

[quoteecf6fc212f="cronerd"]haha wow this thread is still going, i believe we all fooled ourselves when we thought a company can pay $500 for 3 offers, were all users admit it roll[/quoteecf6fc212f]

They can. You have to remember that we are only a small fraction of their users. Tons of people sign up, do some offers, and forget about it. They also sell your information which can really add up after a while with the amount of traffic they get.

ashilef

09-03-2009 17:46:44

[quote806c3bac6f="TravMan162"][quote806c3bac6f="TravMan162"]This thread stopped being useful so long ago[/quote806c3bac6f]


srsly


I'm starting to think no one has anything valuable to do with their time. They said 8-10 weeks. Give them 8-10 weeks. If that passes, then start crying. Christ. It's been one week. I can't wait to see what happens a month from now[/quote806c3bac6f]

You do realize that you aren't contributing much to the discussion either right?

nygiantzrock

09-03-2009 18:53:39

Any good brandarama sites still out there?

hum1m9e8r8b

09-03-2009 19:10:53

[quote47ebf6aa0f="nygiantzrock"]Any good brandarama sites still out there?[/quote47ebf6aa0f]
Maybe, but you don't want to do them until things clear up from this mpell situation.

wiebelhaus03

09-03-2009 19:46:14

hum1m9e8r8b is right, but if you still want to do some sites then check out the sticky in the DIY section of A4F's forums, they have a good list of brandarama sites. Most are a $100/offer payout ratio, but page 3 hasn't been crediting lately

nygiantzrock

09-03-2009 20:28:47

Okay, thanks. What exactly is the mpell situation and what does mpell mean?

hum1m9e8r8b

09-03-2009 20:34:09

[quote2f5b14af67="nygiantzrock"]Okay, thanks. What exactly is the mpell situation and what does mpell mean?[/quote2f5b14af67]
Read the brandarama threads here. Basically, BR is 1.5+ years behind and they have contracted out the reward fulfillment to a company called mpell.

nygiantzrock

09-03-2009 20:51:54

Oh right. I noticed mpell being recurrently referred to in here but never knew it was a company. Do you happen to know what sticky he is talking about that lists the brandarama sites? Also, is there an easy way to get to the DIY part of the forum? I always end up searching DIY in the search tab up top and then clicking the DIY forum on the left. Sorry, this isn't the right place for this post, I will delete it after it's answered. Again thanks.

RolltheStampede

09-03-2009 20:53:35

you could bookmark it

nygiantzrock

09-03-2009 21:02:45

Oh true. Do you know what sticky wiebelhaus03 is referring to
"the sticky in the DIY section of A4F's forums, they have a good list of brandarama sites."?
Thanks

kwoodyk34k

09-03-2009 21:37:40

[quote75377ba1fa="wiebelhaus03"]hum1m9e8r8b is right, but if you still want to do some sites then check out the sticky in the DIY section of A4F's forums, they have a good list of brandarama sites. Most are a $100/offer payout ratio, but page 3 hasn't been crediting lately[/quote75377ba1fa]

I've done two page 3's recently and both credited instantly.

nygiantzrock

09-03-2009 22:14:51

If you don't mind me asking, which two did you do?

RolltheStampede

09-03-2009 22:47:30

you should have pmed that to him everyone else is going to pound you for it.

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=120642

kwoodyk34k

09-03-2009 23:55:53

[quote6390f7f780="nygiantzrock"]If you don't mind me asking, which two did you do?[/quote6390f7f780]

Onlingo and StealthFileShare (1 day trial)

wiebelhaus03

10-03-2009 08:09:15

[quote6cafefd178="kwoodyk34k"][quote6cafefd178="nygiantzrock"]If you don't mind me asking, which two did you do?[/quote6cafefd178]

Onlingo and StealthFileShare (1 day trial)[/quote6cafefd178]

ok sweet, I did a few good sites i saved about 5 weeks ago or so and not one single page 3 offer credited......good to know they did for someone

nygiantzrock

10-03-2009 14:50:25

I just attempted a 4-offer $500 gift card site at brandarama. Completed all 4 offers today and all reported instantly. Now I just have to confirm my address and send in my form tomorrow. Odd that this process is so fast, seems like they would drag it out like the reward depot so people don't have to wait so long in the "confirmed to ship" process. Weird.

kwoodyk34k

10-03-2009 22:10:19

Has anyone gone CTS since the letters went out? I believe I'm somewhere between 5-7 weeks waiting for one. They're probably afraid to show up at their PO Box.

bruman

10-03-2009 22:31:19

[quotee9088c2433="kwoodyk34k"]Has anyone gone CTS since the letters went out? I believe I'm somewhere between 5-7 weeks waiting for one. They're probably afraid to show up at their PO Box.[/quotee9088c2433]

Have you tried e-mailing/calling customer service about that?

kwoodyk34k

10-03-2009 22:37:29

[quote0d45ce2727="bruman"][quote0d45ce2727="kwoodyk34k"]Has anyone gone CTS since the letters went out? I believe I'm somewhere between 5-7 weeks waiting for one. They're probably afraid to show up at their PO Box.[/quote0d45ce2727]

Have you tried e-mailing/calling customer service about that?[/quote0d45ce2727]

Actually, I'm mistaken. I was CTS for a gift on Feb 24. But for some reason a form that I sent in WELL before that one has not yet been CTS. Maybe it got lost in the mail? Sorry for the misinformation.

BTW the CTS one was TrustedRewards and the only gift I did for that site. The other one was for YTB. I doubt that matters but whatever.

Oh, and yes, I did e-mail them. She said it could take up to 4 weeks for them to process it once they get it.

RolltheStampede

11-03-2009 07:18:59

they desolved topshelfbrands

ghounds07

11-03-2009 09:16:42

noooooooooo

had my scholarship offer parked there...was going to complete it if this mpell thing was legit (

RolltheStampede

11-03-2009 10:39:17

you win some you lose some, mom had it parked as well oh well

desertwilite

11-03-2009 11:32:15

[quotede8e681546="RolltheStampede"]you win some you lose some, mom had it parked as well oh well[/quotede8e681546]

We had it parked too, and thought it would remain there. Ha-I guess they
got me on that one.

LucaBella

11-03-2009 20:11:54

yeah, TopShelfBrands has been gone for over a week... my cousin just sent in his paperwork and was waiting on an update in the status and all of a sudden the site was gone daddy gone...

bummer....

kwoodyk34k

11-03-2009 23:00:23

[quotef40d3749e1="LucaBella"]yeah, TopShelfBrands has been gone for over a week... my cousin just sent in his paperwork and was waiting on an update in the status and all of a sudden the site was gone daddy gone...

bummer....[/quotef40d3749e1]

I would e-mail customer service through one of the other ARG sites and ask about it.

LucaBella

12-03-2009 01:17:53

yeah, we did.. took like 3 mails sent before they answered him, then said they'd just send out an mpell form at the end of the month...

odd tho, to kill the site with the bigger prize.. Brandy should just admit they're shutting down soon...

or moving on to those 2 offer "free oreos" pages...

RolltheStampede

12-03-2009 06:31:12

there was only like 3 active gifts on the site anyway, just getting ride of the old stuff. Ideal, YFD, ad Nuitech get rid of domains all the time.

AdrienD1892

12-03-2009 07:48:48

[quote1493344eec="kwoodyk34k"]Has anyone gone CTS since the letters went out? I believe I'm somewhere between 5-7 weeks waiting for one. They're probably afraid to show up at their PO Box.[/quote1493344eec]

Confirmed to ship from what? From "Qualified" or from MPell sending out the certs?

I completed a Brandarama site in Dec, sent in my confirmation in Jan, they received it Feb 4 and I went to confirmed to ship on March 11.

Now I'm just waiting to see where it goes from there. If MPell will be doing newly completed offers, or just the ones that are WAY past overdue... We shall see...

RolltheStampede

12-03-2009 08:38:26

probably a new batch of letters in april to see if they get paid by them for the first batch

kinneylamb

12-03-2009 11:11:47

[quote0e9de7be80="ghounds07"]noooooooooo

had my scholarship offer parked there...was going to complete it if this mpell thing was legit ([/quote0e9de7be80]

you would have had to front $2300+ or whatever it was, for mpell, all at once. if thats not a problem for you, then oh well, its a loss but whatev

RolltheStampede

12-03-2009 11:49:57

im sure lots of people have dont it its really a non issue.

edgespeeder04

12-03-2009 12:11:15

Once they have been confirmed we will have the letters sent out in about 6-8 weeks. This is how all the gift fulfilments are now taking place. Apparently it will be faster and more efficient.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim

edgespeeder04

12-03-2009 12:11:39

that is what I was told when I asked when we would get the letters from mpell

cronerd

12-03-2009 12:40:29

i dont know if you guys saw this but some guy on ripoff report decided to 'rip' on mpell because he felt they are responsible for this whole mess and guess what, mpell responded heres what they said

[be8ebad039b]False Accusation of Mpell Solutions

Mpell Solutions is a BBB accredited company with an A rating. We are a fulfillment company which simply means we ship products for our customers.

In every case, our clients are responsible for advertising and offer eligibility, we are not, and we have no control over their actions. Our clients, YourTopBrands in this case, pay us a fee to ship products to their consumers according to their exact instructions. Mpell mails a check to the consumer when the certificate redemption instructions, created by our client, are met. The offer is financed by the company who made that offer, not us, and they only pay for redemptions that meet the criteria they established.

We are in no way responsible for any of the issues described in this complaint. In fact, we take offense at even being mentioned. It is akin to blaming UPS if you are unsatisfied with a product purchased at Amazon. Or thinking the Post Office should cut a check for a cell phone rebate that was declined by your carrier.

We truly understand and sympathize with the complaints being posted. In hindsight, [ue8ebad039b]our mistake was accepting this type of business[/ue8ebad039b]. We respectfully ask that you don't shoot the messenger, we're doing our best in the limited role that we have.
[/be8ebad039b]

SkatingCrippled

12-03-2009 12:57:14

Yeah, I think that was posted a few pages back.

ghounds07

12-03-2009 13:23:24

[quote6b103e4d65="kinneylamb"][quote6b103e4d65="ghounds07"]noooooooooo

had my scholarship offer parked there...was going to complete it if this mpell thing was legit ([/quote6b103e4d65]

you would have had to front $2300+ or whatever it was, for mpell, all at once. if thats not a problem for you, then oh well, its a loss but whatev[/quote6b103e4d65]

I didn't even have $1,000 to front for the gifts I already am getting, much less $2,000+, but what I do have is critical thinking skills, and realize you don't have to front any money to get your check.

cronerd

12-03-2009 14:17:42

[quoted98239d772="SkatingCrippled"]Yeah, I think that was posted a few pages back.[/quoted98239d772] i thought so but i wasnt sure

cronerd

12-03-2009 14:18:31

[quote177c8b6088="ghounds07"][quote177c8b6088="kinneylamb"][quote177c8b6088="ghounds07"]noooooooooo

had my scholarship offer parked there...was going to complete it if this mpell thing was legit ([/quote177c8b6088]

you would have had to front $2300+ or whatever it was, for mpell, all at once. if thats not a problem for you, then oh well, its a loss but whatev[/quote177c8b6088]

I didn't even have $1,000 to front for the gifts I already am getting, much less $2,000+, but what I do have is critical thinking skills, and realize you don't have to front any money to get your check.[/quote177c8b6088]
lock lock lock lock lock lock lock

dubbin87

12-03-2009 14:25:02

I prefer to say I'm smarter than the average bear. lol

cronerd

12-03-2009 14:37:04

[quoteea21059ca5="dubbin87"]I prefer to say I'm smarter than the average bear. lol[/quoteea21059ca5] are you referring to getting the $$ without fronting the cash?

wiebelhaus03

12-03-2009 14:38:50

he's referring to using his brain - it can do all kinds of smart and creative things!

mistertomlinson

12-03-2009 15:45:48

Yeah... I robbed a guy.

kinneylamb

12-03-2009 15:50:30

i dont get it. for $2300. obviously theyll let you purchase multiple gift cards, so youre saying buy like $500 and buy new ones over and over. yea but i have to say, w/o these forums i dont know how far into the 30 day period, in between job and life, i would have thought of that. hard to say.

dubbin87

12-03-2009 16:00:10

[quote0e5006a238="wiebelhaus03"]he's referring to using his brain - it can do all kinds of smart and creative things![/quote0e5006a238]

wink now off to go get some pic-i-nic baskets....

RolltheStampede

12-03-2009 18:34:37

just dont get nabbed by ranger smith

ghounds07

12-03-2009 19:19:59

[quote222d716201="cronerd"][quote222d716201="ghounds07"][quote222d716201="kinneylamb"][quote222d716201="ghounds07"]noooooooooo

had my scholarship offer parked there...was going to complete it if this mpell thing was legit ([/quote222d716201]

you would have had to front $2300+ or whatever it was, for mpell, all at once. if thats not a problem for you, then oh well, its a loss but whatev[/quote222d716201]

I didn't even have $1,000 to front for the gifts I already am getting, much less $2,000+, but what I do have is critical thinking skills, and realize you don't have to front any money to get your check.[/quote222d716201]
lock lock lock lock lock lock lock[/quote222d716201]

May I ask why you put all those lock signs? I want to see why you think what I typed is bad...can't wait for the response!

ghounds07

12-03-2009 21:34:05

[quote68dbbbaeee="kinneylamb"]i dont get it. for $2300. obviously theyll let you purchase multiple gift cards, so youre saying buy like $500 and buy new ones over and over. yea but i have to say, w/o these forums i dont know how far into the 30 day period, in between job and life, i would have thought of that. hard to say.[/quote68dbbbaeee]

And to clarify, no I did not buy gift cards, I don't want to front ANY money, so buying gift cards would mean that my cash would become a random gift card...no thanks.

cronerd

12-03-2009 21:49:03

suggesting you should be banned for posting about scamming mpell, obviously it was a joke if u didnt get it

ghounds07

12-03-2009 22:07:01

oh, oops thought you were serious, since no scamming was involved D

Eeyore

13-03-2009 00:00:59

[quotef8cce54d07="cronerd"]suggesting you should be banned for posting about scamming mpell, obviously it was a joke if u didnt get it[/quotef8cce54d07]
You have a very odd definition of 'scam'.

Zags1199

13-03-2009 00:20:18

Mpell already said they don't give a crap if you return your items. They just need a receipt.

dubbin87

13-03-2009 03:32:41

[quotef6e28778f1="Eeyore"][quotef6e28778f1="cronerd"]suggesting you should be banned for posting about scamming mpell, obviously it was a joke if u didnt get it[/quotef6e28778f1]
You have a very odd definition of 'scam'.[/quotef6e28778f1]

He's just being a "Boo Boo" whining and bitching about Yogi's adventures. lol

mweiss

13-03-2009 07:35:59

I just check YourTopBrands.com Brandarama.com to check the status of both of my gift cards and both have disappeared from the log. Did that happen to anyone else?

AdrienD1892

13-03-2009 07:44:21

[quotea59bd2e38b="mweiss"]I just check YourTopBrands.com Brandarama.com to check the status of both of my gift cards and both have disappeared from the log. Did that happen to anyone else?[/quotea59bd2e38b]

Many people on A4F have reported the same thing. A few have reported theirs have come back after a day. Brandarama knows about the issue and is working on it.

steveyankee

13-03-2009 10:53:21

lol, so I guess a certain company said today that business with brandarama is on "pause"

Yup, we will sure get that money.

bruman

13-03-2009 11:11:49

[quote6103847b4c="steveyankee"]lol, so I guess a certain company said today that business with brandarama is on "pause"

Yup, we will sure get that money.[/quote6103847b4c]

What are you talking about?

Zags1199

13-03-2009 11:13:16

Where did you read/hear that?

JANGALANG32

13-03-2009 11:18:52

yeah, let us know! i was processed on the 29th of january so a lot of answers should be known soon. ive heard checks will be sent out 8-10 weeks but probably sooner. i heard 20 weeks. now i am hearing mpell has put this all on pause?

steveyankee

13-03-2009 12:02:35

From a legit source

I just got an email from an affiliate company that I deal with that all brandarama campaigns are paused.

So with that plus the 20 week thing. Yeah, nothing else to say.

manOFice

13-03-2009 12:15:48

awesome news /me rolls eyes

bruman

13-03-2009 12:17:53

[quote595ee7fcd1="steveyankee"]From a legit source

I just got an email from an affiliate company that I deal with that all brandarama campaigns are paused.

So with that plus the 20 week thing. Yeah, nothing else to say.[/quote595ee7fcd1]

Uhh... that happens all the time with all sorts of campaigns. Doesn't mean anything. I swear.. every little thing you guys freak out about and automatically perceive it to be the end.

Besides, they are still being advertised plenty on HydraNetwork... the newest site being just two days ago (the 11th).

And the latest response (according to an e-mail reply someone posted at A4F) from mpell about shipping times, someone posted they replied yesterday saying "We expect reimbursements to be shipped out early to mid April".

SteveYankee You're, I think, one of the two people a CS agent mentioned it might be 20 weeks.. so why don't you contact mpell again, mention what they told you and ask for an update/response to that claim?
The only two legit sources that we can possible get actual reliable information from is either from Brandarama or Mpell (who both have phone and e-mail CS)
anything else we find is just guessing and assuming and all that other crap-- on both sides, mine too.

RolltheStampede

13-03-2009 12:55:15

When we get checks noone should say anything.

steveyankee

13-03-2009 13:16:17

im just here for the replies

who takes FIPG seriously these days?

dubbin87

13-03-2009 13:39:57

CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!













This last picnic basket had egg salad sandwiches... YUCK!!!!!!!!

steveyankee

13-03-2009 14:04:55

wtf

who doesnt like egg salad sandwiches


you fipg people are weird

RolltheStampede

13-03-2009 14:09:15

I bet steve likes syrup sandwiches too.

Where the hell is everybody. I know it is Friday the 13th but damn...

steveyankee

13-03-2009 14:22:59

i dont know a person by the name of steve, son

RolltheStampede

13-03-2009 14:35:17

Then why did you respond, LOL

dubbin87

13-03-2009 14:40:15

[quote845518b378="steveyankee"]wtf

who doesnt like egg salad sandwiches


you fipg people are weird[/quote845518b378]

If you think this place is weird I'll show you anOTher board.




Dammit Why dO my kEys sticK frOm tiMe tO time. Damm honey....

ashilef

13-03-2009 15:04:08

[quotedd6afe9b46="cronerd"]suggesting you should be banned for posting about scamming mpell, obviously it was a joke if u didnt get it[/quotedd6afe9b46]

Ugh! Give me a break! roll

ghounds07

13-03-2009 15:09:06

[quote4c244e5741="RolltheStampede"]When we get checks noone should say anything.[/quote4c244e5741]

haha, love this idea.

mariners1999

13-03-2009 15:31:50

[quote42bb8c3196="ghounds07"][quote42bb8c3196="RolltheStampede"]When we get checks noone should say anything.[/quote42bb8c3196]

haha, love this idea.[/quote42bb8c3196]

no a better idea is to say that all the checks bounced and are no good! twisted

steveyankee

13-03-2009 15:46:41

[quote7b8cd38af7="dubbin87"][quote7b8cd38af7="steveyankee"]wtf

who doesnt like egg salad sandwiches


you fipg people are weird[/quote7b8cd38af7]

If you think this place is weird I'll show you anOTher board.




Dammit Why dO my kEys sticK frOm tiMe tO time. Damm honey....[/quote7b8cd38af7]

i wish fazle owned this forum

im sure he could buy it for like, $50

LucaBella

14-03-2009 06:06:08

Wow, Trav was right.. absolutely nothing is going on in this thread... I love it...

oleus

14-03-2009 12:39:06

has anyone called Brandarama lately to hear their version of the Mpell/who's-paying-who and when story?

i am thinking of calling monday but i'm almost afraid to hear what they're going to say (or not say, or not know, etc).

Eeyore

14-03-2009 13:49:48

I know it's rude to repost yourself, but it's still soooo true

[quotefa0115e3f7="Eeyore"]Cackling like a bunch of hens every time something bumps the coop.[/quotefa0115e3f7]

mistertomlinson

14-03-2009 14:18:11

[quote168aa29649="Eeyore"]I know it's rude to repost yourself, but it's still soooo true

[quote168aa29649="Eeyore"]Cackling like a bunch of hens every time something bumps the coop.[/quote168aa29649][/quote168aa29649]

What are you, 80 years old? (j/k)

livingloud28

14-03-2009 15:39:01

Why would you go and call Brandarama and whine wait the ten weeks plus then if you do not get anything complain !

dubbin87

14-03-2009 16:05:40

[quote8d0b3ab0f8="livingloud28"]Why would you go and call Brandarama and whine wait the ten weeks plus then if you do not get anything complain ![/quote8d0b3ab0f8]

wat?

oleus

14-03-2009 16:20:09

[quote999531a176="livingloud28"]Why would you go and call Brandarama and whine wait the ten weeks plus then if you do not get anything complain ![/quote999531a176]

who said i was going to call to whine and complain?

is asking them if they are indeed paying us our checks as Mpell has stated not completely reasonable?

it wouldn't be in my best interest to be anything but polite and calm with them, it's a reasonable question especially since i've been "CTS" by them since October 2007 though.

I think MOST of us who fronted the money for these gift paybacks via Mpell assumed MPELL would be fulfilling our gifts. If it's a fact that it's indeed Brandarama again who is actually shipping our checks, I'd like to know it from them and if so what they believe the timeframe for gift fulfillment is now.

ghounds07

14-03-2009 18:45:47

^^ legit, let us know.

zr2152

14-03-2009 23:12:38

whether you know or not it is not going to change the time frame or the possibility of you getting your money.

Eeyore

14-03-2009 23:26:01

True, but it should be good for another half dozen pages of useless posts...

ghounds07

14-03-2009 23:53:34

[quote82f438244a="zr2152"]whether you know or not it is not going to change the time frame or the possibility of you getting your money.[/quote82f438244a]

True, but that is not the intent of the phone call.

oleus

14-03-2009 23:54:11

so...no one wants brandarama's "official" position on this i guess.

Eeyore

15-03-2009 00:13:50

Their "official position" is that they ship gifts in six to eight weeks, which we all know is bogus. "Kim" has told callers that Mpell is handling all of the redemptions from now on. Do you really expect anything different? They certainly are not going to discuss their finances with some random caller. Sorry, but no, I don't care what their position is. They'll change it tomorrow anyway.

dubbin87

15-03-2009 00:18:27

[quote1558a77f8f="Eeyore"]True, but it should be good for another half dozen pages of useless posts...[/quote1558a77f8f]

in for this. WOOOOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEEE!

kwoodyk34k

15-03-2009 00:20:01

[quote2d91ed3e9f="oleus"][quote2d91ed3e9f="livingloud28"]Why would you go and call Brandarama and whine wait the ten weeks plus then if you do not get anything complain ![/quote2d91ed3e9f]

who said i was going to call to whine and complain?

is asking them if they are indeed paying us our checks as Mpell has stated not completely reasonable?

it wouldn't be in my best interest to be anything but polite and calm with them, it's a reasonable question especially since i've been "CTS" by them since October 2007 though.

I think MOST of us who fronted the money for these gift paybacks via Mpell assumed MPELL would be fulfilling our gifts. If it's a fact that it's indeed Brandarama again who is actually shipping our checks, I'd like to know it from them and if so what they believe the timeframe for gift fulfillment is now.[/quote2d91ed3e9f]

"Dear ____,
We are not at liberty to discuss financial arrangements at this time. Thank You"

ghounds07

15-03-2009 00:55:06

Hah, this thread is useless because everyone on here hates brandarama. I don't see a logical reason as to why we wouldn't want to know more information about when we will be receiving our money, because at least for me, it will be paying some of my bills.

Eeyore, i get why you said they'll "change their position tomorrow anyway" since you're correct, this company is retarded. However you do not change an agreement with another company about how this whole situation will be handled financially.

And yes kwoody I agree that will most likely be the canned email response but we should be able to figure this out over the phone talking to the right people.

So oleus call em up and let us know what they say, and if they won't let you know I'll call them up and figure it out.

kinneylamb

15-03-2009 04:34:05

yea but you already know, all there is to know. we all want magic to happen, but if you call brandarama, they will tell you it's mpell doing it, and mpell will tell you 8-10 weeks..and possibly to stop calling so they can process gifts, lol. sorry (

mariners1999

15-03-2009 08:08:46

[quoted5a467c498="Eeyore"]Their "official position" is that they ship gifts in six to eight weeks, which we all know is bogus. "Kim" has told callers that Mpell is handling all of the redemptions from now on. Do you really expect anything different? They certainly are not going to discuss their finances with some random caller. Sorry, but no, I don't care what their position is. They'll change it tomorrow anyway.[/quoted5a467c498]


Hell when I got my letter from Mpell "Kim" did not even know what I was talking about when I called up. Took her 3 days or so before she was told that they were having Mpell do all the gift fulfillment. So pardon me but you will not get ANY information from their customer service people as they are told thing on a need to know basis and Kim does NOT need to know about all the financing of this deal.

M

ploppsdman

15-03-2009 08:18:06

I think you'll have better luck speaking with mpell and telling them that if this blows up, it would be in their best interest to not appear to be a part of the problem and to let us know if something is going on that is out of the ordinary with brandarama.

But I appreciate any effort in the direction of trying to get some answers, so if you contact brandarama, let us know if anything is revealed, thanks.

baabaablacksheep

15-03-2009 08:28:52

screw calling brandarama customer service. try getting a number for ARG corporate and call them--get to the source of the problem.

or try Trylon SMR, ARG's Public Relations Company

Trylon SMR
Tiffany Guarnaccia / Chris Spagnuolo, 212-725-2295
email==tiffany@trylonsmr.comtiffany@trylonsmr.com=tiffany@trylonsmr.comtiffany@trylonsmr.com/email / email==chris@trylonsmr.comchris@trylonsmr.com=chris@trylonsmr.comchris@trylonsmr.com/email

baabaablacksheep

15-03-2009 08:46:54

Brad Powers in an interview with MeetInnovators
http//meetinnovators.com/2008/03/27/brad-powers-from-active-response-group/

"One of the big things in our space was several of the large players had FTC lawsuits. We have always been on the forefront of compliance issues and making sure the consumer knows what they get into especially in our incentive-based sites. All of our personal identifiable information is stored in a secure environment.

Additionally, everyone who handles data in this company takes a training module and has to pass a test with complete audit trails. We have a pretty robust compliance and security apparatus.
We probably could have accelerated the growth of the company a little bit more had we taken a more aggressive stance on some of our own promotional-based offerings. But in the end, we never received an AG lawsuit or a FTC complaint."

oleus

15-03-2009 09:45:00

[quote211d09ba86="Eeyore"]Their "official position" is that they ship gifts in six to eight weeks, which we all know is bogus. "Kim" has told callers that Mpell is handling all of the redemptions from now on. Do you really expect anything different? They certainly are not going to discuss their finances with some random caller. Sorry, but no, I don't care what their position is. They'll change it tomorrow anyway.[/quote211d09ba86]

discuss their finances with some random caller???! i'm not a random person auditing their taxes. i'm a licustomerli wanting to know if they are writing checks to us at the beginning of April like Mpell has said. as it stands now i don't think we've heard anything from them on this specific point.

guys, we need to be prepared with whatever facts we can get in the unfortunate event we don't get our refunds. Luckily, Mpell got involved and I see them having more "disgruntled customer" power than we do when it comes to dealing with Brandarama on this.

if calling brandarama is just a waste of time, i will try the ARG route. but to assuage any of the people freaked out by the very fact i might call and annoy them - i will be very polite when i call 8)

(it just seems to me that anyone with any analytical thinking can see the writing on the wall on this one in terms of us not getting jacklililili in 8-10 weeks.)

Eeyore

15-03-2009 09:56:11

The only difference between December and now is that instead of waiting on ARG to get caught up--which would never happen--we're now waiting for Mpell. Our situation is slightly better than it was because ARG doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks of them but Mpell seems to value their business reputation. With that I am a bit more optimistic about getting paid than I was three months ago, and since I'm only out another $40 or so out of the $1600 I'm owed completing this additional step that was a reasonable step to take.

Once April 10 rolls around (10 weeks from January 26) we should have started seeing some checks. If none appear by May 8 then we will know it's the same old ARG we're dealing with. Those are the only facts available unless you are one of the money people at ARG or Mpell, and they are not talking.

I'll say it again We are not ARG or Mpell's customers. ARG answers to advertisers and ARG is Mpell's customer. We are "product".

Having said all that, if you want to bug them go ahead but others have tried and failed to get inside information. In fact, I think some misinformation (20 weeks, etc.) was given out just to screw with the caller.

oleus

15-03-2009 10:14:02

eeyore -

that's good information. thanks.

at least one of the parties involved (Mpell) seems to give a crap

bruman

15-03-2009 10:57:47

I also think this has a lot to do with the merger between ARG and transtech.

They've actually extended the deadline twice on this and the final verdict is not out yet -- they have until late May according to this.

The latest info I could find was this

[quote4f32b8a31f]TransTech Extends Deadline a Second Time
Posted February 06, 2009 349PM

TransTech Services Partners Inc., a $41.4 million SPAC, extended its deadline by one week to sign a definitive agreement with the online advertising company Active Response Group.

Terms of the deal have not yet been released and either party can cancel the letter of intent at will if a deal is not formalized by Feb. 13.

This is the second time that TransTech has extended the agreement deadline for its merger, which was originally announced at the end of November. The first extension had given the SPAC until Jan. 30.

Shares in TransTech closed on Feb. 4 at $7.65, while warrants ended at 2 cents on Feb. 6.

The SPAC has $7.95 per share in trust and until late May to complete a business combination.[/quote4f32b8a31f]

vijay04964

15-03-2009 12:07:50

what ever happened to the guy with $70000 of gifts. Did he end up buying them?

ghounds07

15-03-2009 14:07:28

[quote33e43c4dbd="baabaablacksheep"]screw calling brandarama customer service. try getting a number for ARG corporate and call them--get to the source of the problem.

or try Trylon SMR, ARG's Public Relations Company

Trylon SMR
Tiffany Guarnaccia / Chris Spagnuolo, 212-725-2295
email==tiffany@trylonsmr.comtiffany@trylonsmr.com=tiffany@trylonsmr.comtiffany@trylonsmr.com/email / email==chris@trylonsmr.comchris@trylonsmr.com=chris@trylonsmr.comchris@trylonsmr.com/email[/quote33e43c4dbd]

yay someone smart, thanks for the info. I agree with everyone else saying that talking to Kim is pointless, which is why you have to talk to the right people, just like baabaa is saying here.

kinneylamb

15-03-2009 18:42:26

i know some people were talking about hydra network on here.. just a fun fact about them, they were 2007's #10 fastest growing private company on the Inc.'s 500. to put that into perspective, Bill Me Later was #6.

kinneylamb

15-03-2009 20:37:36

a SPAC is a special purpose acquisition company. they go from private to public for the purpose of merging or buying another company. the transaction is typically, the SPAC purchases equity in the other company, effectively becoming its new owner if enough is purchased. merger if a lesser equity % is purchased. leveraged buyouts are common with SPACs, hopefully this is not the case, meaning transtech uses borrowed money to complete the transaction and buy equity in ARG, for example. (ziff davis media never recovered from their debt incurred from their 1999 leveraged buyout of the previous owner of its magazines, causing all magazines except PC magazine to shut down, PC mag going online only, and selling its online network to help pay down debt, not to mention chapter 11 bankruptcy declaration). lets hope this transaction is a good one. this was not meant to incite fear, just a little 411.

supersponger1979

16-03-2009 12:39:41

Once and if we ever receive our reimbursements checks, is anyone going to still do ARG sites? If Mpell handles all future gifts, hopefully they will abide by their 8-10 week window. Thanks

I have a few sites parked awaiting this mess to sort itself out

mistertomlinson

16-03-2009 15:16:00

[quoteca3f8ab666="supersponger1979"]Once and if we ever receive our reimbursements checks, is anyone going to still do ARG sites? If Mpell handles all future gifts, hopefully they will abide by their 8-10 week window. Thanks

I have a few sites parked awaiting this mess to sort itself out[/quoteca3f8ab666]

I will MOST DEFINITELY be doing more. Papa needs a new car and I got a couple really good Brandarama sites parked that have since been discontinued.

RolltheStampede

16-03-2009 16:10:28

♠Your sig should read i will buy your soul for 20 dollars, if you have to give something in exchange it isnt free. kinda like these sites.

hum1m9e8r8b

16-03-2009 19:39:40

[quote2666075973="RolltheStampede"]♠Your sig should read i will buy your soul for 20 dollars, if you have to give something in exchange it isnt free. kinda like these sites.[/quote2666075973]
I think that's the point.

cronerd

17-03-2009 17:48:16

http//theanteheroes.com/Humor/MassFacepalm.jpg[" alt=""/img5fe39691fe]

RolltheStampede

18-03-2009 06:36:07

Whats with all the Haruhi? you even doubled up the bottom right picture.

Eeyore

18-03-2009 08:30:52

Thank god for adblock pro. roll

AdrienD1892

18-03-2009 09:57:28

[quoteec9f11963d="cronerd"]liIMAGEli[/quoteec9f11963d]

I LOVE IT! HAHA!

FYI I called Brandarama yesterday because I had a question about their policy, unrelated to any Mpell business, but I did ask if I would be getting an email from MPell or a letter in the mail so I knew what to expect and didn't toss Mpell as junk mail if it showed up. (<--run-on anyone?) I was told 6-8 weeks to expect a letter from Mpell, in the mail, from time of "confirmed to ship" She said from now on all 'gifts" would be given through Mpell until farther notice.

So there you go.

I'm honestly not that worried about it. I spent $20 for the offers I did, and 3 of the offers I had been wanting to try from stores anyway. So it was kind of a win.win for me. If I get a check I get a check. If I don't, I don't. I know many of you are into this way more than the $600 mac Mini i am, but I'm just not that concerned. I find the whole thing way to confusing to get upset over it. Who's paying who when where how... too much information for my brain to process @_@

desertwilite

18-03-2009 10:28:41

Did any of you do that Infocus SP5000 projector? What are they paying out for that one?

RolltheStampede

18-03-2009 12:02:34

1350

kinneylamb

18-03-2009 12:40:20

is that link still up? i had a gift parked but it dissappeared from my account.

RolltheStampede

18-03-2009 12:41:48

they pulled all the good gifts a while ago, if it disappeared you can ask them about it but most likely just take it as a loss

desertwilite

18-03-2009 12:44:34

Thanks Roll. $1350 isn't too bad for 8 offers.

RolltheStampede

18-03-2009 13:07:01

So next week begins people bitching about no checks huh, should be fun

desertwilite

18-03-2009 13:46:09

Ye-good thing I'm going camping this weekend to take a rest from it all!

dubbin87

18-03-2009 13:46:21

[quotee9240cd573="RolltheStampede"]So next week begins people bitching about no checks huh, should be fun[/quotee9240cd573]it's been "next week" for weeks now.

AdrienD1892

18-03-2009 20:45:20

[quotef89826dd85="RolltheStampede"]So next week begins people bitching about no checks huh, should be fun[/quotef89826dd85]

Good times!

roll

Have fun camping, desertwilite. I miss camping ( I used to when I was little over summer break.

desertwilite

18-03-2009 22:09:12

[quotecc5e2e4f70="AdrienD1892"][quotecc5e2e4f70="RolltheStampede"]So next week begins people bitching about no checks huh, should be fun[/quotecc5e2e4f70]

Good times!

roll

Have fun camping, desertwilite. I miss camping ( I used to when I was little over summer break.[/quotecc5e2e4f70]

LOL- Thanks.....well my "camping" means we pack up the 3 Afghans and RV and pontoon boat and head out to a full hook up site. But I truly miss a few years back, camping with my daughter with nothing more than a crappy tent and trying to keep quiet when all the skunks walked by!!! I am old now and my daughter is gone but the memories.....well...they stay with us!

kinneylamb

18-03-2009 23:57:15

[quoteb63f7d3421="freeipodplayer"][quoteb63f7d3421="supersponger1979"]I am sure this has already been covered...Is this the procedure for future ARG sites? Has anyone tried a new site since this redemption process? Thanks[/quoteb63f7d3421]

For the time being it is procedure.

Page 3 credit won't credit (probably on purpose), and [bb63f7d3421]5 weeks since certs sent to BR with no CTS or Mpell.[/bb63f7d3421][/quoteb63f7d3421]

any updates on your account and gift status?

PS600REVX

19-03-2009 07:17:43

[quotec2badd033e="kinneylamb"][quotec2badd033e="freeipodplayer"][quotec2badd033e="supersponger1979"]I am sure this has already been covered...Is this the procedure for future ARG sites? Has anyone tried a new site since this redemption process? Thanks[/quotec2badd033e]

For the time being it is procedure.

Page 3 credit won't credit (probably on purpose), and [bc2badd033e]5 weeks since certs sent to BR with no CTS or Mpell.[/bc2badd033e][/quotec2badd033e]

any updates on your account and gift status?[/quotec2badd033e]

A guy under another topic on here stated that he sent his certs in late January and went CTS early March.

kinneylamb

19-03-2009 10:25:50

thanks PS6 )

AdrienD1892

19-03-2009 10:35:40

Is Brandarama and Your Top Brands the same company? They have the same frontpage layout so I was just curious...

cronerd

19-03-2009 10:40:48

[quote361d7145cc="AdrienD1892"]Is Brandarama and Your Top Brands the same company? They have the same frontpage layout so I was just curious...[/quote361d7145cc]
uh yaa....

RolltheStampede

19-03-2009 11:56:32

there are like 8 or so sites

hum1m9e8r8b

19-03-2009 15:06:36

Does anyone remember the name of the online service that people were using to transfer money from visa gift cards to the online account, and then to your bank account?

debo012004

19-03-2009 16:08:56

[quotede4d1737cc="hum1m9e8r8b"]Does anyone remember the name of the online service that people were using to transfer money from visa gift cards to the online account, and then to your bank account?[/quotede4d1737cc] smartypig.com instructions are in one of my old posts.

slambam

19-03-2009 18:04:59

Looks like Brandarama has instituted a requirement to keep offers for 30 days, similar to NuiTech. Also, new Terms say that gifts are for a "Cash Back Certificate". Interesting...

dubbin87

19-03-2009 18:27:03

[quote013de312ae="slambam"]Looks like Brandarama has instituted a requirement to keep offers for 30 days, similar to NuiTech. Also, new Terms say that gifts are for a "Cash Back Certificate". Interesting...[/quote013de312ae]

lieditli weird, i just did a few sites in the past week and didn't see anything new. All thier terms were still the old style. Might have to check into this..


lieditli
Ouch they went apesh!t will the new rules. So much for those with parked sites hoping to finish them.

luumon

19-03-2009 18:54:27

thanks for the info. so the terms takes effect on march 20, right. if i did the offers today it wouldn't be under the new t&c.

ploppsdman

19-03-2009 19:31:30

Check out this bit from their new terms

"and you are only allowed to cancel the number of Sponsor offers set forth in the chart below"

What the hell does that mean? It states you have to keep offers for a minimum of 30 days, and then that bit above. If you do a 0-3 offer award, it says you can't cancel any offers? Goodbye!

bruman

19-03-2009 19:51:41

So these new terms.. although suckish for us who were hoping to complete many more brandarama sites.. is, as far as i'm concerned, proof that ARG is not planning on closing doors anytime soon. Which means that we will be receiving our checks from mpell. These new terms also are significant because it makes it official that brandarama and mpell are going to have an extended relationship with these cash-back offers. They aren't going to flilili with them right on the first shipment.

dubbin87

19-03-2009 20:29:10

[quote9346e076e9="bruman"]So these new terms.. although suckish for us who were hoping to complete many more brandarama sites.. is, as far as i'm concerned, proof that ARG is not planning on closing doors anytime soon. Which means that we will be receiving our checks from mpell. These new terms also are significant because it makes it official that brandarama and mpell are going to have an extended relationship with these cash-back offers. They aren't going to flilili with them right on the first shipment.[/quote9346e076e9]

True. D


but I love how in the new rules it states that BR will be handling the entire cashback process and they don't go into details that you have to buy something to get your $$$.

Eeyore

19-03-2009 20:44:49

Well, it takes effect in an hour and sixteen minutes. GET BUSY!

LucaBella

19-03-2009 21:00:07

I bet they have it rigged so that something won't credit.. or worse, they hold you to the 30 day terms regardless of when you did the offers. Notice how they make you submit proof that you still have the offers? Way to go Brandy, you sucked from beginning to end...

edgespeeder04

19-03-2009 21:05:40

just means their sites are gonna be impossible to do now too, which sucks. end of the freebie world for many of us i guess. I mean you would think they would let you finish your parked sites through the old terms, hopefully we can find that out.

Eeyore

19-03-2009 21:12:17

More troublesome than the cancellation limitation is the number of offers they're now requiring. The days of the 4 offer $1000 site are probably over.

kinneylamb

19-03-2009 22:16:47

[quote4ea5d6dc34="bruman"]These new terms also are significant because it makes it official that brandarama and mpell are going to have an extended relationship with these cash-back offers. [b4ea5d6dc34]They aren't going to flilili with them right on the first shipment.[/b4ea5d6dc34][/quote4ea5d6dc34]
they'll wait until the third shipment to do that. lol j/k

[quote4ea5d6dc34="dubbin87"]
but I love how in the new rules it states that BR will be handling the entire cashback process and [b4ea5d6dc34]they don't go into details that you have to buy something to get your $$$.[/b4ea5d6dc34][/quote4ea5d6dc34]
well theyre directing attention away from mpell until you get the certificate and find out it's mpell.
they do have info on the purchase, its further down in the terms. it says you must purchase an item that's at least 90% of the value of your certificate

[quote4ea5d6dc34="LucaBella"]Notice how they make you submit proof that you still have the offers?[/quote4ea5d6dc34]
lucabella have you heard of nuitech? you've been a member here for too long to not know.. it's okay to submit proof. thats what you do when there's a cancel limitation.

[quote4ea5d6dc34="edgespeeder04"]just means their sites are gonna be impossible to do now too, which sucks. end of the freebie world for many of us i guess. I mean you would think they would let you finish your parked sites through the old terms, hopefully we can find that out.[/quote4ea5d6dc34]
all they're asking is to keep your offers for 30 days.
you can pick whatever offers, and just keep it past the trial period. that's 30 days.
with the right gift and offers it's still fairly profitible.

[quote4ea5d6dc34="Eeyore"]More troublesome than the cancellation limitation is the number of offers they're now requiring. The days of the 4 offer $1000 site are probably over.[/quote4ea5d6dc34]
i actually think, these new rules will cut down on people just doing it to cancel all the offers, and help the whole thing become more profitable, which could lead to better sites down the line.
maybe not 4 offer / $1000 but who knows, something better could come along.

bruman

19-03-2009 23:00:33

Did you guys also see this? Apparently there is a 90 day time limit as well.

[quote3a0a08b5ce]
Q Is there any time limit for completing offers?
A Complete the required number of offers within 90 days of registering on the Service. Make sure that you complete all of the steps in the program requirements, including mailing in your Cash Back Gift Certificate within 90 days of your sign-up date.[/quote3a0a08b5ce]

ploppsdman

19-03-2009 23:55:48

I don't consider this to be proof we will be getting paid. The check arriving in April and clearing will be proof.

kwoodyk34k

20-03-2009 00:30:00

Where is everyone looking?
I can't find this stuff.

luumon

20-03-2009 00:41:47

[quote6b1c3460ca="kwoodyk34k"]Where is everyone looking?
I can't find this stuff.[/quote6b1c3460ca]

click on the link you're going to offers. and then scroll to the bottom and click on gift rules.

LucaBella

20-03-2009 01:23:08

Gee thanks Kinny, I'm so glad newbs like you are here to explain things to me... You keep me feeling safe and alive.

kwoodyk34k

20-03-2009 01:42:25

[i162108ee7f]a) You are not allowed to use multiple accounts on the Services utilizing different email addresses at the same shipping address. You may only use one unique email address per shipping address.[/i162108ee7f]

Is this rule new or old?
I have 3 e-mail addresses that I use for different sites.
I'm hoping this was in the terms before.. because if not, what am I supposed to do if I want to do future offers?

[i162108ee7f](f) Gift Redemption. Once you receive the Cash Back Gift Certificate please follow the step by step instructions as stated on the Cash Back Gift Certificate. Mail the Cash Back Gift Certificate along with your purchase receipt and a current, validly issued picture ID to the address stated on the Cash Back Gift Certificate within 30 days following the date printed on the Cash Back Gift Certificate. Please note that the purchase receipt of the prize or a substitute prize must be at least 90% of the value of the Cash Back Gift Certificate.[/i162108ee7f]

That's cute.

So are they actually enforcing the 90 day rule now? Because they had that 90 day thing in there for years.

cronerd

20-03-2009 01:42:37

[quote32fdaaaa5d="LucaBella"]Gee thanks Kinny, I'm so glad newbs like you are here to explain things to me... You keep me feeling safe and alive.[/quote32fdaaaa5d]
do i sense some hostility? lol

steveyankee

20-03-2009 10:01:15

[quote05946a6f57="LucaBella"]Gee thanks Kinny, I'm so glad newbs like you are here to explain things to me... You keep me feeling safe and alive.[/quote05946a6f57]

i bet youre fat

RolltheStampede

20-03-2009 10:23:15

Yeah so brandarama finally got wise to everyone else, oh well time to pack up camp and move to another site.

bruman

20-03-2009 10:29:44

[quote96eb0571e6="RolltheStampede"]Yeah so brandarama finally got wise to everyone else, oh well time to pack up camp and move to another site.[/quote96eb0571e6]

I-deal is basically the only game in town now, and their offer-to-payout ratio has gotten a lot worse in the past year. If they follow suit and add a cancellation limit or some other stipulation I could see the end of the mega-profitable DIY sites we've become accustomed too. Still, there will probably good deals popping up here and there, just won't be nearly as active I think.

kinneylamb

20-03-2009 11:47:18

i'm not a newb, and if vets like you didnt say stupid things, newer peeps like me wouldn't have to correct you

as for the 90 day thing.. it used to be 180 days (6 months). i can always find offers to do like the week i click on a gift. if i dont, theres usually more added in the next week. so not a big deal.

kwoodyk34k

20-03-2009 12:05:57

Does anyone by any chance have a copy of the old "Gift Rules"?

I really would like to know if that multiple e-mail address thing has always been there. I know I've used 1 e-mail address for all Brandarama sites. 1 e-mail address for all RewardsParade sites. And 1 e-mail address for everything else.

I just always used my current "main" e-mail address at the time of my completing the site. I never thought there was anything wrong with it... Why would there be?

RolltheStampede

20-03-2009 12:07:43

[quoted1e33883db="bruman"][quoted1e33883db="RolltheStampede"]Yeah so brandarama finally got wise to everyone else, oh well time to pack up camp and move to another site.[/quoted1e33883db]

I-deal is basically the only game in town now, and their offer-to-payout ratio has gotten a lot worse in the past year. If they follow suit and add a cancellation limit or some other stipulation I could see the end of the mega-profitable DIY sites we've become accustomed too. Still, there will probably good deals popping up here and there, just won't be nearly as active I think.[/quoted1e33883db]


There are sites out there people are just afraid to try new sites, Reward


thinks wont be nearly as profitable but there will be stuff around.

bruman

20-03-2009 13:54:52

Someone on A4F who sent their certificates back Jan 27th reported receiving their check.

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=151375

hum1m9e8r8b

20-03-2009 14:01:23

[quote559b66e119="RolltheStampede"][quote559b66e119="bruman"][quote559b66e119="RolltheStampede"]Yeah so brandarama finally got wise to everyone else, oh well time to pack up camp and move to another site.[/quote559b66e119]

I-deal is basically the only game in town now, and their offer-to-payout ratio has gotten a lot worse in the past year. If they follow suit and add a cancellation limit or some other stipulation I could see the end of the mega-profitable DIY sites we've become accustomed too. Still, there will probably good deals popping up here and there, just won't be nearly as active I think.[/quote559b66e119]


There are sites out there people are just afraid to try new sites, Reward


thinks wont be nearly as profitable but there will be stuff around.[/quote559b66e119]
Exactly, and new networks may emerge.
The reason these sites slow up is because they were so profitable before that too many people did them. It's just basic supply and demand.

ploppsdman

20-03-2009 14:55:01

The check came from Brandarama, not mpell (mpell told me they would be the ones sending it out in a regular envelope) and he only got half.

ploppsdman

20-03-2009 15:01:30

Here's the postings (big disclaimer in my eyes, he just joined today)

"mspell did not tell me why they sent just half. i mailed them all in the same envelope. i am in texas. i did find the envelope it came in and scanned that,lol
I will post that in the gallery "

"it was brandarama that wrote the check,but it was from those letters mspell sent us and we had to send back. i sent my back jan. 27th. i called them when i did not have all of the money and they said it will be shipping out in the next few weeks."

nic3456

20-03-2009 15:14:31

Early last October I received a check from Brandarama addressed just like this (certified) I have 3 other outstanding offers with Mpell and those rewards are no where to be found anymore on YTB.com, Trustedrewards.com,etc. I wonder if 3 of this guy's rewards were right at the cutoff of Brandarama fulfilling rewards? Especially since his status changed to shipped on BR web sites.

Eeyore

20-03-2009 15:47:09

The other checks I've gotten from Brandarama over the last several years have all been addressed from NYC and sent certified. I'd put money on this being a leftover from Oct. 2007 and not one of the Mpell payouts.

kinneylamb

20-03-2009 16:10:16

[quotefc90230bd6="kwoodyk34k"]Does anyone by any chance have a copy of the old "Gift Rules"?

I really would like to know if that multiple e-mail address thing has always been there. I know I've used 1 e-mail address for all Brandarama sites. 1 e-mail address for all RewardsParade sites. And 1 e-mail address for everything else.

I just always used my current "main" e-mail address at the time of my completing the site. I never thought there was anything wrong with it... Why would there be?[/quotefc90230bd6]
i believe it was. unless you read the full terms, you wouldn't know that. i know plenty of people who have registered with different e-mails. they dont enforce it very well, just make sure your name/address/phone is the same on each one.

massman

20-03-2009 20:01:30

I got my checks today, just assumed all of you would have too!?

beammeup4

20-03-2009 20:07:15

[quote8b37e4b4c8="kwoodyk34k"]Does anyone by any chance have a copy of the old "Gift Rules"?

I really would like to know if that multiple e-mail address thing has always been there. I know I've used 1 e-mail address for all Brandarama sites. 1 e-mail address for all RewardsParade sites. And 1 e-mail address for everything else.

I just always used my current "main" e-mail address at the time of my completing the site. I never thought there was anything wrong with it... Why would there be?[/quote8b37e4b4c8]

So I'm a member of Cashle, which basically pays you to fill out I-Deal/Brandarama/YFDirect sites up until the point where you complete offers. You need a unique email address to get credited, so I'd sign up for a bunch of I-Deal sites using different (legit) email addresses. After a while, I went to sign up for an I-Deal site for real, and I got a message saying I was DQ'd. I never violated any of the rules on the page that said I was DQ'd, so I contacted I-Deal but haven't gotten a response. I assume I broke the rules about using more than one email address (even though I wasn't intending to scam them or anything), and their lack of response was basically giving me the middle finger.

I'm sad because there's little else I can do now that Brandarama's become difficult. cry

beammeup4

20-03-2009 20:08:13

[quoteae0d424fdb="massman"]I got my checks today, just assumed all of you would have too!?[/quoteae0d424fdb]

from MPell? o

sUrface1080

20-03-2009 20:42:12

[quote99a518ee3a="massman"]I got my checks today, just assumed all of you would have too!?[/quote99a518ee3a]

I only got half of mine oops

Eeyore

20-03-2009 21:12:03

[quoteec1b88ca76="massman"]I got my checks today, just assumed all of you would have too!?[/quoteec1b88ca76]You realize that if you are lying we're all coming after you, right? twisted

RolltheStampede

20-03-2009 21:51:35

Screw the mail, I got a stub they direct deposited my money into my account last week.

RolltheStampede

20-03-2009 21:52:16

It will be funny when people actually start getting checks on April Fools day though.

steveyankee

20-03-2009 22:11:04

And they bounce.

kinneylamb

21-03-2009 00:09:47

[quotebd4bdbc3bd="beammeup4"]
After a while, I went to sign up for an I-Deal site for real, and I got a message saying I was DQ'd.[/quotebd4bdbc3bd]
you probably got so much spam from signing up for ideal sites and you unsubscribed. that will make those emails ineligible. just sign up with a new one, but make sure all your info (name/address etc) is legit and the same.

beammeup4

21-03-2009 00:24:48

[quote972bcc2aa9="kinneylamb"][quote972bcc2aa9="beammeup4"]
After a while, I went to sign up for an I-Deal site for real, and I got a message saying I was DQ'd.[/quote972bcc2aa9]
you probably got so much spam from signing up for ideal sites and you unsubscribed. that will make those emails ineligible. just sign up with a new one, but make sure all your info (name/address etc) is legit and the same.[/quote972bcc2aa9]

nope, I can recognize an ideal email easily. plus, all those emails go into a spam account anyway which i never check.

kwoodyk34k

21-03-2009 01:03:54

Ugh. I completed a gift earlier this week but I was too stupid to print it out after completing it. I tried to go print it out right now and it requests proof on the new claims form that I kept the offers 30 days.

I e-mailed them saying that I feel that since I did the offers before the rule change that I shouldn't have to provide proof of the 30 days. I asked if I could just send in the confirmation e-mails dated before 3/20/09.

I also asked what happens if we are in the middle of completing offers for a gift and if they are actually enforcing the 90 day policy now.

I bet Kim will have no idea what I'm talking about.

LucaBella

21-03-2009 01:45:19

Let us know what they say, I also have a gift I never sent out, and upon checking the voucher it's got the new CASH BACK bullshit on it... the offers were done months ago.

mistertomlinson

21-03-2009 05:25:49

Yeah... I'm kinda wondering how parked sites will work. I got a couple 4 offer sites I will still do (ASAP, now that the terms have changed) but am afraid since I registered so long ago, I may be wasting my time. Please let us know any info you get kwoodyk34k.

FreeOffersNow

21-03-2009 07:34:34

Completed sites disappeared again for me - eh.

kwoodyk34k

21-03-2009 10:13:50

I'll let everyone know when they e-mail me back.

Zags1199

21-03-2009 14:12:36

[quote7a7c3a59fb="FreeOffersNow"]Completed sites disappeared again for me - eh.[/quote7a7c3a59fb]

Same here, it's so annoying. Luckily, I have everything written down if they ever try to jerk me around.

dubbin87

21-03-2009 14:32:08

[quotee43d64401f="mistertomlinson"]Yeah... I'm kinda wondering how parked sites will work. I got a couple 4 offer sites I will still do (ASAP, now that the terms have changed) but am afraid since I registered so long ago, I may be wasting my time. Please let us know any info you get kwoodyk34k.[/quotee43d64401f]

Well I can tell you right now that if you just a site parked and haven't done any offers yet that you are going to have to abide by the new rules. Not sure why anyone would think otherwise. As for recently completed, I bet they shaft us.

mistertomlinson

21-03-2009 14:40:20

[quotea0b3955042="dubbin87"][quotea0b3955042="mistertomlinson"]Yeah... I'm kinda wondering how parked sites will work. I got a couple 4 offer sites I will still do (ASAP, now that the terms have changed) but am afraid since I registered so long ago, I may be wasting my time. Please let us know any info you get kwoodyk34k.[/quotea0b3955042]

Well I can tell you right now that if you just a site parked and haven't done any offers yet that you are going to have to abide by the new rules. Not sure why anyone would think otherwise. As for recently completed, I bet they shaft us.[/quotea0b3955042]

I expect that, but how the new 90 day limit affects me is my concern.

sweeedfish

21-03-2009 17:58:18

[quote45630ac9dd="Zags1199"][quote45630ac9dd="FreeOffersNow"]Completed sites disappeared again for me - eh.[/quote45630ac9dd]

Same here, it's so annoying. Luckily, I have everything written down if they ever try to jerk me around.[/quote45630ac9dd]
I spoke to Kim about it a few weeks ago. They just go archived, which she thought was stupid because it scares the crap out of some people.

massman

21-03-2009 18:44:46

[quotea600b179df="sUrface1080"][quotea600b179df="massman"]I got my checks today, just assumed all of you would have too!?[/quotea600b179df]

I only got half of mine oops[/quotea600b179df]

I got my 2k check, which was all they owed me. The letter with it said I passed the fraud prevention department or some such. Deposited it yesterday, credited to my account today. And no, it didn't bounce.




there's gotta be a bunch more people out there that got checks, right? It looked like a batch process thing, like how netblue used to send out gifts.

jtackman

21-03-2009 19:43:13

I got a check for $500 from brandarama. It said the same thing too about the fraud prevention. Well I guess they are finally starting to mail things out, hope everyone here gets theirs soon. I am off to the bar to spend some of it.

slambam

21-03-2009 20:31:47

mass and jtack... were those checks for the full amount your owed? I know the dude on A4F said his was only for half of what he's owed.

Eeyore

21-03-2009 20:51:27

Damn. Now I'm wanting to run over to my office to check today's mail. They got mine on Jan 29.

JANGALANG32

21-03-2009 21:32:12

here we go...good to see people are receiving checks. i was all processed jan 29th. i wonder if its random, by last name or by when processed? probably random

bruman

21-03-2009 22:12:31

(for those who received checks)
Check the status on your gift. Did it turn to shipped or is it still CTS? According to the post on A4F his status changed when his went shipped.
And were they shipped by Brandarama certified or from Mpell?

kinneylamb

22-03-2009 01:17:54

[quoted41dae0117="beammeup4"]
nope, I can recognize an ideal email easily. plus, all those emails go into a spam account anyway which i never check.[/quoted41dae0117]
its not easily recognized sometimes. i once got an email in between doing ideal sites, like a long while since i had done one, and the thing being advertised was a product or service or possibly freebie site even (non ideal). at the bottom, the unsubscribe link was for lucky duck marketing, which turned out to be an ideal DBA and i got dq'ed for that email address. quadruple check your emails because you dont just get dq'd unless its the $ amount you made or something.

jsantana

22-03-2009 06:56:38

[quote780b78dd71="bruman"](for those who received checks)
Check the status on your gift. Did it turn to shipped or is it still CTS? According to the post on A4F his status changed when his went shipped.
And were they shipped by Brandarama certified or from Mpell?[/quote780b78dd71]


First time poster - but nobody answered your questions.

My gifts disappeared on Brandarama's Status probably around the time Mpell stuff was sent. But I did receive a check yesterday for over $8,000.

JANGALANG32

22-03-2009 08:01:55

wow, paid in full for over $8,000? thats a good day for everyone not just you. its finally time to get paid! years of waiting and its finally here

fbskiracer

22-03-2009 08:09:07

Post pics in the brag thread please.

ILoveToys

22-03-2009 08:20:23

Yeah...I'd like to see a picture of such a check...

nygiantzrock

22-03-2009 09:02:54

Sorry to ruin the flow here but, if two of my brandarama gifts went Qualified, need confirmation on 3/10 and I sent the certs on 3/11, should they show up as confirmed yet? I would send the certs over but they have the new 30 day offer rule and I don't wanna get shafted.

ILoveToys

22-03-2009 09:13:35

It can take a number of weeks before you'll go confirmed after sending the forms in.

kwoodyk34k

22-03-2009 10:15:13

[quotec949fdeb43="nygiantzrock"]Sorry to ruin the flow here but, if two of my brandarama gifts went Qualified, need confirmation on 3/10 and I sent the certs on 3/11, should they show up as confirmed yet? I would send the certs over but they have the new 30 day offer rule and I don't wanna get shafted.[/quotec949fdeb43]

I sent some out March 3. I hope I don't get shafted either. If I knew the rules were going to change I would have sent them with delivery confirmation.

It usually take 4-7 weeks for it to be CTS. Sometimes less.
They usually CTS a bunch on the same day from what I've noticed. Even if the claims forms were sent on different days.

kinneylamb

22-03-2009 13:10:50

[quote48d55e6060="jsantana"]First time poster - but nobody answered your questions.

My gifts disappeared on Brandarama's Status probably around the time Mpell stuff was sent. But I did receive a check yesterday for over $8,000.[/quote48d55e6060]
hey buddy
welcome to the crazy fipg diy thread, lol

do you remember what date you sent your mpell certs with receipts?

NastyNinja

22-03-2009 13:59:49

Posting for the first time, popping my Free Ipod Guide cherry if you will. I have been lurking for months though. Nothing ever good enough to write......until now......Mpell sent me two checks for $500 and $1,500....Now I can pay my credit card bills! YES!!!

Did you guys get yours?

NastyNinja

22-03-2009 14:03:06

Oh and by the way......my letters also had something about fraud department and passing some fraud check. SO good luck!

slambam

22-03-2009 14:11:17

Hmm... Hopefully tomorrow. You send your forms in right when you got them Nasty?

bruman

22-03-2009 14:14:29

[quoteaccb898c62="NastyNinja"]Posting for the first time, popping my Free iPod Guide cherry if you will. I have been lurking for months though. Nothing ever good enough to write......until now......Mpell sent me two checks for $500 and $1,500....Now I can pay my credit card bills! YES!!!

Did you guys get yours?[/quoteaccb898c62]

The letter came from Mpell in California?

ploppsdman

22-03-2009 14:52:39

Seeing as how the only people reporting having received checks are people who just signed up now, it's bs to me until a few of us who have been around start posting this. And, so far, no real proof, particularly proof from mpell is being posted.

bruman

22-03-2009 15:01:14

[quotecaaaa64f2e="ploppsdman"]Seeing as how the only people reporting having received checks are people who just signed up now, it's bs to me until a few of us who have been around start posting this. And, so far, no real proof, particularly proof from mpell is being posted.[/quotecaaaa64f2e]

I know right.. I mean, I believe them, but at the same time it is kind of strange. For the amount of people that did receive them there is real lack of information.

I'm curious if peoples gift status are changing to shipped when there check is sent out. According to the poster on A4F that was the case for him. For the other dude who said his gift dissapeared.. trying looking at all the sites. Some of mine dissapeared, others did not. I don't think they are deleting them when they are shipped out.

Also, if you went shipped, please provide the date of when you sent out your certificates. It seems to be going in order of process date. It's also strange that some people are receiving half and some are receiving full.
Nasty, was the reason you received two checks was for two gifts ($1,500 and $500 gift?) or why did they separate them. I thought mpell said they would all be on one check so that is confusing as well.

ploppsdman

22-03-2009 15:49:26

Yeah, mpell told me they would be very likely be shipping everything on one check.

mistertomlinson

22-03-2009 16:03:54

I'd hate to be so suspicious myself... and it's a shame that I have to be, but would a picture be so hard? If I was one of the first people to receive a check from MPell, as a loyal FiPG member, I would be anxious as hell to put everyone at ease by posting a picture. Check... the envelope it was sent in... something. That's what these boards are all about.

LucaBella

22-03-2009 16:08:34

I think it's safe to say that no one has yet received a check from MPell, it makes no sense that only brand new members have gotten paid. You don't think someone from brandarama/Mpell is posting for the hell of it, do you?

kinneylamb

22-03-2009 16:12:55

yes, please, when you receive your check(s)
[b11893be1b8]
1. tell us when you sent your certificates in
2. post a pic of the check and letter with your info blocked out to the DIY bragging thread
3. did your gift status go to "shipped" on the site, and when
optional
4. the state you live in
5. the date on the envelope (when it was mailed)
6. your initials
7. did the envelope return address say mpell (CA) or brandarama (NY)
8. thank you for joining the site and letting us know![/b11893be1b8]

mpell seems to not know wtf theyre doing. to be fair they are shooting out thousands of checks, so maybe thats why theyre not always combined. paperworks probably all over the place and separated while they're on their 5th cup of coffee. that sort of thing.

listking

22-03-2009 16:43:09

I got my mpell money yesterday! It was a beautiful check for just over 10k. I live in New Mexico. I sent in my certs the week I got them. My status did not go to shipped, all my accounts have vanished. The date on the envelope was the 17th. I would post a picture but I don't have the envelope or check. Trashed and deposited, respective. Ill let you guys know how long it takes for the cross-state check deposit.

listking

22-03-2009 16:44:15

Im a lurker here but much more active on FYB. Figured Id let you guys know because this is the most popular forum site now

Zags1199

22-03-2009 17:04:38

listking - what are your initials?

bruman

22-03-2009 17:08:32

[quote8281818596="listking"]I got my mpell money yesterday! It was a beautiful check for just over 10k. I live in New Mexico. I sent in my certs the week I got them. My status did not go to shipped, all my accounts have vanished. The date on the envelope was the 17th. I would post a picture but I don't have the envelope or check. Trashed and deposited, respective. Ill let you guys know how long it takes for the cross-state check deposit.[/quote8281818596]

Did it come from Mpell or ARG?

dubbin87

22-03-2009 17:15:43

[quote75cfd52b75="LucaBella"]I think it's safe to say that no one has yet received a check from MPell, it makes no sense that only brand new members have gotten paid. You don't think someone from brandarama/Mpell is posting for the hell of it, do you?[/quote75cfd52b75]

But you also realize that there are waaaaaay more people that visit this site and others daily that really have no need to post. Hell i lurked here a long time before ever signing up. Some people just don't feel the need to add something to the conversation unless it's relevent.

I for one would like to thank some of these long time lurkers, first time posters for chiming in. 8)

freeipodplayer

22-03-2009 17:30:36

[quotef02b50ee3a="kinneylamb"]yes, please, when you receive your check(s)

1. tell us when you sent your certificates in
2. post a pic of the check and letter with your info blocked out to the DIY bragging thread
3. did your gift status go to "shipped" on the site, and when
optional
4. the state you live in
5. the date on the envelope (when it was mailed)
6. thank you for joining the site and letting us know!

mpell seems to not know wtf theyre doing. to be fair they are shooting out thousands of checks, so maybe thats why theyre not always combined. paperworks probably all over the place and separated while they're on their 5th cup of coffee. that sort of thing.[/quotef02b50ee3a]

My buddy got 1 of 2 checks yesterday too. He said he sent them in 3 weeks apart though. Told me the first one was sent in a day after he got the letter.

He lives in NY.

other than that... i don't have info like the date and such.

I personally haven't got my check.

freeipodplayer

22-03-2009 17:32:34

[quote982dfae8eb="LucaBella"]I think it's safe to say that no one has yet received a check from MPell, it makes no sense that only brand new members have gotten paid. You don't think someone from brandarama/Mpell is posting for the hell of it, do you?[/quote982dfae8eb]

Not everyone is a member here ya know.

I am a member of 5 separate forums.

Eeyore

22-03-2009 17:51:48

While I'm often a grouchy skeptic myself some of the reports of checks are coming from folks who registered awhile back but never posted. For example, "NastyNinja" above joined 28 May 2008, long before any of this Mpell madness started. Hell, I didn't post much for over a year because my questions were answered by reading the forums, plus I'm also a member of several other sites. It does seem a little odd that nobody's posted 'proof' here yet but a lot of people don't come back once they get paid.

livingloud28

22-03-2009 19:00:25

Get real listking and ninja and many others who posted they got their check stop causing trouble .

kinneylamb

22-03-2009 20:46:47

added initials and envelope return address to list of things people should post, since a lot of members are gonna ask

slambam

22-03-2009 21:34:42

Myself, I believe listking, he has been an active member on FYB for a while. Tomorrow may be an interesting day....

Eeyore

22-03-2009 22:57:03

No shit. It'll actually get my ass to the office early tomorrow just to see what came in the mail yesterday. lol

bennyboy5768

22-03-2009 23:42:10

Once again, Pics or it never happened. |

dubbin87

23-03-2009 00:19:58

[quotebb755ae9c1="bennyboy5768"]Once again, Pics or it never happened. |[/quotebb755ae9c1]

BRB going to get a pic of the wind.....oh wait...

ploppsdman

23-03-2009 01:08:53

If anyone here gets there's, let me know if there's an expiration on the check (it would say "must use in 30 days" or something similar).

LucaBella

23-03-2009 02:46:53

[quotec58442cdf7="freeipodplayer"][quotec58442cdf7="LucaBella"]I think it's safe to say that no one has yet received a check from MPell, it makes no sense that only brand new members have gotten paid. You don't think someone from brandarama/Mpell is posting for the hell of it, do you?[/quotec58442cdf7]

Not everyone is a member here ya know.

I am a member of 5 separate forums.[/quotec58442cdf7]

It just seems to odd that people who've never posted are claiming they got paid, I mean.. they couldn't even post before to say "I've sent my stuff in?" and of course, the die hard members who post all the time haven't gotten anything? it just seems weird, like someone's taking the piss, but of course I'll be quite happy to be wrong!

mistertomlinson

23-03-2009 05:12:22

Looks like I'll be running to the mailbox first thing every damn morning... sigh.

baabaablacksheep

23-03-2009 05:31:15

[quoteafcba5ae31="mistertomlinson"]Looks like I'll be running to the mailbox first thing every damn morning... sigh.[/quoteafcba5ae31]

it's probably going to be certified mail so a signature will be required (right?).

sUrface1080

23-03-2009 06:14:03

[quote30e404ce30="ploppsdman"]Seeing as how the only people reporting having received checks are people who just signed up now, it's bs to me until a few of us who have been around start posting this. And, so far, no real proof, particularly proof from mpell is being posted.[/quote30e404ce30]

sorry I was going to read your post but I only believe members who joined before me.

AdrienD1892

23-03-2009 06:31:17

[quotee3417f5bbe="dubbin87"]But you also realize that there are waaaaaay more people that visit this site and others daily that really have no need to post. Hell i lurked here a long time before ever signing up. Some people just don't feel the need to add something to the conversation unless it's relevent.

I for one would like to thank some of these long time lurkers, first time posters for chiming in. 8)[/quotee3417f5bbe]

I have to agree. being negative doesn't add anything to the forum and yet it's those same people who complain about repeated questions and useless information who add the negativity and tell others who don't have a few hundred post count to shut up. Such a friendly site roll It's no wonder these lurkers don't post anything.

freeipodplayer

23-03-2009 07:12:31

[quote607d7887bb="sUrface1080"][quote607d7887bb="ploppsdman"]Seeing as how the only people reporting having received checks are people who just signed up now, it's bs to me until a few of us who have been around start posting this. And, so far, no real proof, particularly proof from mpell is being posted.[/quote607d7887bb]

sorry I was going to read your post but I only believe members who joined before me.[/quote607d7887bb]


You are a noob with only 20 posts. LIARRRRRRRRRR

manOFice

23-03-2009 07:29:33

hopefully i'll get mine soon but nothing yet

sUrface1080

23-03-2009 07:36:06

[quote37127fb3df="freeipodplayer"][quote37127fb3df="sUrface1080"][quote37127fb3df="ploppsdman"]Seeing as how the only people reporting having received checks are people who just signed up now, it's bs to me until a few of us who have been around start posting this. And, so far, no real proof, particularly proof from mpell is being posted.[/quote37127fb3df]

sorry I was going to read your post but I only believe members who joined before me.[/quote37127fb3df]


You are a noob with only 20 posts. LIARRRRRRRRRR[/quote37127fb3df]

nov2007

RolltheStampede

23-03-2009 08:01:44

The only one that would have any credibility with me would be listking but Seeing as he hasnt posted anything on FYB i am skeptical at best.


Most likely someone making accounts and having fun with us.

steveyankee

23-03-2009 08:16:56

Who doesn't like to fuck with fipg?

All the "regulars" have a dildo up their ass half the time.

I know a few sites who just like to fuck with fipg, and I don't blame them.

nphami01

23-03-2009 08:33:30

I am a lurker, but have been following this site as much as possible to keep updates because this money means so much to me (a college student). I haven't posted much either because I do not know if it would be productive.

What do you guys think it means if I have a 1000 visa that is not there anymore on YTB website, but my 500 macy is on TR still? Do you think that means anything?

RolltheStampede

23-03-2009 08:40:10

if you have sent form off already for mpell you should be fine

desertwilite

23-03-2009 08:49:55

Wow, got back from our camping trip and just look at all the drama I missed! (And yes, I am going to watch for my mailman everyday now!)

nphami01

23-03-2009 08:52:31

Yeah, I wasn't worried too much about that. I just thought maybe that was an indication that something may be shipping. I am looking for any hope haha

listking

23-03-2009 09:22:47

Almost all of you do have a dick up your ass. Calm the fuck down and use some lube. You guys are always so critical of everyone. Question everyone and expect everything and give just about nothing. Anal retentive freebie suckers. And the pecking order here is retarded. Even the mods are re-re's.

Why do you think I prefer FYB? I have lurked forever over here. You guys think you are the best, bullshit, suck a fucking fart out my ass. It is just too bad FYB died. Now Im stuck posting here.

Oh yeah, one more quick message to the mods...Ban me you dumb fucks

bruman

23-03-2009 09:29:26

Massman received his he says, and he has over 400 posts. The dude on A4F provided a tracking number that matches up.

kwoodyk34k

23-03-2009 10:07:19

I got my response from Kim.

"The rules changed 3/20. Anything before that will follow the old rules"

Wtf, I asked her specifically HOW I'm supposed to send the form in when it REQUIRES proof and my signature that I understand that they need 30 days proof on me keeping my offers.

How is whoever processing going to know it was completed before March 20? I guess I'll have to try again...

Eeyore

23-03-2009 10:21:59

A checkwatch update Nothing here yet (Chicagoland). Certs received by Mpell 2/7.

ploppsdman

23-03-2009 10:22:57

If you've received your money, I'm glad. But since none of us know you, and basically everyone coming on saying they've received their money has 2 posts to their name, there's good reason to not be certain of anything. I don't understand the ridicule and disgust for having common sense doubt.

RolltheStampede

23-03-2009 10:30:43

[quote572663d6df="bruman"]Massman received his he says, and he has over 400 posts. The dude on A4F provided a tracking number that matches up.[/quote572663d6df]

Where did he say that, If people are getting paid great be nice if i could get mine.

RolltheStampede

23-03-2009 10:33:51

what is the email to contact mpell. Friend needs to see when his forms were processed

bruman

23-03-2009 10:34:11

His last two posts
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/search.php?search_author=massman

Said he got the full 2k he was waiting on, and also mentioned that fraud prevention thingy.

And mpell's support is email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email

kwoodyk34k

23-03-2009 10:36:37

[quoteec0176abc2="RolltheStampede"]what is the email to contact mpell. Friend needs to see when his forms were processed[/quoteec0176abc2]

email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email

RolltheStampede

23-03-2009 11:07:02

thanks

tbjstet

23-03-2009 12:55:30

i am one of the ones that hardly ever post,but read this forum and A4F. I am the one that posted on A4F, a copy of my envelope. My name on A4F is Cleo45. I know it would have been easy to post a copy of the check, but when it came i was so happy i ran to the bank and cashed it. I REALLY DID RECEIVE $1500 but they owed me $3000, dont know why they only sent $1500 ,but mspell assures me they will send the rest in a few weeks. I dont know what to say to get you to believe me, i guess when you get yours you will.

RolltheStampede

23-03-2009 13:35:42

http/" alt=""/img22.imageshack.us/img="22/7403/001bbq.jpg[" alt=""/imgf3a5f0db23]

that is the image you posted. Im just confused because I thought the checks were coming from Mpell. That envelop says it came from Brandarama.

Just wondering if bradarama decided to pay some of your gift and mpell would actually be paying the rest.

dubbin87

23-03-2009 13:44:21

wow, just wow you guys are pathetic. People post up with good news and becasue they don't 11ty thousands posts or have been here since the turn of the century they get hated on. roll

No wonder the other places I visit tell me this place is a joke.

oleus

23-03-2009 13:56:15

the brandarama return address on that looks a bit photoshopped or added after the fact with some text editor.

doylnea

23-03-2009 13:56:30

[quote2d72b3ff47="listking"]
Oh yeah, one more quick message to the mods...Ban me you dumb fucks[/quote2d72b3ff47]

as you wish

doylnea

23-03-2009 13:59:36

fwiw, the IP location, and the delivery city of that envelope match up pretty closely.

oleus

23-03-2009 14:04:03

[quotef24d05b021="doylnea"]fwiw, the IP location, and the delivery city of that envelope match up pretty closely.[/quotef24d05b021]

interesting. just seems strange that none of the heavy-hitter posters around here have seen anything yet.

i'm not necessarily sayinig it's a fake but people's skepticism here seems valid, not ridiculous.

RolltheStampede

23-03-2009 14:04:12

looks like standard brandarama letter, but like i said i thought mpell was sending out checks not brandarama

oleus

23-03-2009 14:08:03

[quote735e52003b="RolltheStampede"]looks like standard brandarama letter, but like i said i thought mpell was sending out checks not brandarama[/quote735e52003b]

at this point, should we really be surprised by anything? if ronald mcdonald hand delivered me my check i wouldn't be that shocked.

chewy

23-03-2009 14:09:33

[quote56fe1f81dc="oleus"]

at this point, should we really be surprised by anything? if ronald mcdonald hald delivered me my check i wouldn't be that shocked.[/quote56fe1f81dc]

that literally made me lol

dubbin87

23-03-2009 15:08:32

[quoteaf9b0da51f="oleus"][quoteaf9b0da51f="RolltheStampede"]looks like standard brandarama letter, but like i said i thought mpell was sending out checks not brandarama[/quoteaf9b0da51f]

at this point, should we really be surprised by anything? if ronald mcdonald hand delivered me my check i wouldn't be that shocked.[/quoteaf9b0da51f]

Mayor McCheese just dropped off a bag of money for me. lol

ashilef

23-03-2009 15:08:44

[quoted5a40fd466="chewy"][quoted5a40fd466="oleus"]

at this point, should we really be surprised by anything? if ronald mcdonald hald delivered me my check i wouldn't be that shocked.[/quoted5a40fd466]

that literally made me lol[/quoted5a40fd466]

Me too! lol

kwoodyk34k

23-03-2009 17:25:22

[i4f10c4de60]Thank you for contacting us.

Do you have the proof that you completed those offers? If you do then it would not hurt to include them. If not, you can jot down a note letting them know that you completed the offers prior to the rules changing. All they would have to do is investigate it.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
RewardsParade Member Support [/i4f10c4de60]

So that's good I guess. Just provide proof that you completed the offers before 3/20. I'm also going to print the e-mail out and include it. If I were you I'd e-mail the same question to Kim so you can include it as well.

manOFice

23-03-2009 17:40:09

[quote227e27820a="oleus"]the brandarama return address on that looks a bit photoshopped or added after the fact with some text editor.[/quote227e27820a]

I didn't wanna post that but I was thinking the same thing...

Eeyore

23-03-2009 17:53:41

We need a separate forum for all the Debbie and Danny Downers here. Sheesh...it's not even been eight weeks yet and already the sky is falling. roll Or are we just practicing for the real deal in three weeks?

dubbin87

23-03-2009 18:26:05

[quote069bbb10ff="kwoodyk34k"][i069bbb10ff]Thank you for contacting us.

Do you have the proof that you completed those offers? If you do then it would not hurt to include them. If not, you can jot down a note letting them know that you completed the offers prior to the rules changing. All they would have to do is investigate it.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
RewardsParade Member Support [/i069bbb10ff]

So that's good I guess. Just provide proof that you completed the offers before 3/20. I'm also going to print the e-mail out and include it. If I were you I'd e-mail the same question to Kim so you can include it as well.[/quote069bbb10ff]

and it's good information like this that will get buried in the mounds of crap.

slambam

23-03-2009 18:46:15

[quote9bb52d05bc="oleus"]the brandarama return address on that looks a bit photoshopped or added after the fact with some text editor.[/quote9bb52d05bc]

sigh............ maybe it's because it's blown up so much?

Eeyore

23-03-2009 19:56:12

Considering that the Stamps.com imprint bears the same 10010 zip code, and that Brandarama uses that for their mailings, it is a pretty good bet that the return address is legit regardless of how the envelope went through the scanner.

manOFice

23-03-2009 20:32:58

the address part must have been first or last in the scanner or something because the whole picture looks legit except the return address...

kinneylamb

23-03-2009 22:12:50

[quoteb96c948e12="kwoodyk34k"]I got my response from Kim.

"The rules changed 3/20. Anything before that will follow the old rules"

Wtf, I asked her specifically HOW I'm supposed to send the form in when it REQUIRES proof and my signature that I understand that they need 30 days proof on me keeping my offers.

How is whoever processing going to know it was completed before March 20? I guess I'll have to try again...[/quoteb96c948e12]
you might want to include a note that you started your account and completed your offers such and such weeks ago, and just send it in.
edit lol kim from brandarama said the same thing.

lilion the envelope return address i think they have preprinted envelopes with the return address already on them. that would account for the different color black. stamps.com was through a printer and the certified mail is a sticker so they show up differently.

kinneylamb

23-03-2009 22:23:00

[quote5902c152c4="RolltheStampede"]looks like standard brandarama letter, but like i said i thought mpell was sending out checks not brandarama[/quote5902c152c4]
well you thought wrong. we all did.

[quote5902c152c4="oleus"]
interesting. just seems strange that none of the heavy-hitter posters around here have seen anything yet.[/quote5902c152c4]
before this gets repeated too many times, massman posted, in this thread, that he received $2000. page 87, 3/4 of the way down the page.

LucaBella

23-03-2009 23:17:52

[quotef3db514e44="oleus"][quotef3db514e44="doylnea"]fwiw, the IP location, and the delivery city of that envelope match up pretty closely.[/quotef3db514e44]

interesting. just seems strange that none of the heavy-hitter posters around here have seen anything yet.

i'm not necessarily sayinig it's a fake but people's skepticism here seems valid, not ridiculous.[/quotef3db514e44]


Not to mention alot of people joked about getting their money a while ago.. I don't know why this thread is trying to dissolve into fights, but let's try and squash it just to keep it useful.

ok.. Massman got 2 grand. Good. Everyone who gets money please post with at least some of the above info suggested.

desertwilite

23-03-2009 23:18:13

I asked Mpell if they would send out checks via certified mail, and they replied no. This was early on in the whole game, so I don't know if it helps. I can not send a copy of the email because my computer has a virus and I am on a laptop for awhile. I just thought it weird that the payments that are mentioned are indeed certified mail.

kinneylamb

24-03-2009 02:42:10

i wouldn't take what mpell said word for word. someone over there didn't get the 411 about the volume of letters theyd be receiving, let alone what kind of mail the checks would be sent with.

tbjstet

24-03-2009 07:58:50

are you people serious, you think i would photo shop a dumb envelope, jeezs
it might look a little strange as i was trying to cover up my address and put a piece a paper over the address and was just showing the date of the envelope. I dont KNOW WHY BRANDARAMA sent the money and i dont care, i am just glad i got it. mspell did know about it as they said they know they still owe me $1500, but you guys believe what you want. i was just trying to pass along some good news, but what ever. roll

RolltheStampede

24-03-2009 08:04:03

[quoteae54946755="tbjstet"]are you people serious, you think i would photo shop a dumb envelope, jeezs
it might look a little strange as i was trying to cover up my address and put a piece a paper over the address and was just showing the date of the envelope. I dont KNOW WHY BRANDARAMA sent the money and i dont care, i am just glad i got it. mspell did know about it as they said they know they still owe me $1500, but you guys believe what you want. i was just trying to pass along some good news, but what ever. roll[/quoteae54946755]

thanks for the info. What are you gonna buy with your money?

PS600REVX

24-03-2009 08:06:14

[quotedd1971d209="tbjstet"]are you people serious, you think i would photo shop a dumb envelope, jeezs
it might look a little strange as i was trying to cover up my address and put a piece a paper over the address and was just showing the date of the envelope. I dont KNOW WHY BRANDARAMA sent the money and i dont care, i am just glad i got it. mspell did know about it as they said they know they still owe me $1500, but you guys believe what you want. i was just trying to pass along some good news, but what ever. roll[/quotedd1971d209]

No, you don't spend your time looking for ways to trick a bunch of people you don't know in believing that you received payments from a DIY site just to mess with them?? Paranoia on this site is on a whole new level.

ashilef

24-03-2009 10:22:19

[quotea63df22e57="tbjstet"]are you people serious, you think i would photo shop a dumb envelope, jeezs
it might look a little strange as i was trying to cover up my address and put a piece a paper over the address and was just showing the date of the envelope. I dont KNOW WHY BRANDARAMA sent the money and i dont care, i am just glad i got it. mspell did know about it as they said they know they still owe me $1500, but you guys believe what you want. i was just trying to pass along some good news, but what ever. roll[/quotea63df22e57]

I believe you, congrats on the cash. But may I suggest you stop calling it Mspell, the company's name is MPELL. Just so there isn't any confusion.

Enjoy your cash!

dktsung1

24-03-2009 10:33:56

D

cong to all that have their cash, only I got from mpell was a denial
letter and copys of everything i send in and send back to me.

PS600REVX

24-03-2009 10:44:30

[quote9e87daa55c="dktsung1"]D

cong to all that have their cash, only I got from mpell was a denial
letter and copys of everything i send in and send back to me.[/quote9e87daa55c]

why is that? did you send it in late?

ghounds07

24-03-2009 11:02:10

and brandarama must have signed up for the stamps.com offer before sending out the checks...how sly.

Zags1199

24-03-2009 11:07:16

To anyone who has received their checks did your status pages changed to shipped? I know the one guy from A4F did.

JANGALANG32

24-03-2009 11:10:25

why would you post you got DQ'd but not say why? it gets people paranoid

LucaBella

24-03-2009 12:19:58

[quote9da6e83fb1="dktsung1"]D

cong to all that have their cash, only I got from mpell was a denial
letter and copys of everything i send in and send back to me.[/quote9da6e83fb1]

Tell us specifically what they said, I'm just curious why anyone would be DQed at this stage...

kwoodyk34k

24-03-2009 12:27:50

[quoteb81994a31d="dktsung1"]D

cong to all that have their cash, only I got from mpell was a denial
letter and copys of everything i send in and send back to me.[/quoteb81994a31d]

I think he was joking..

imapepper

24-03-2009 12:46:50

[quote6cf6a777cc="Zags1199"]To anyone who has received their checks did your status pages changed to shipped? I know the one guy from A4F did.[/quote6cf6a777cc]

wasnt his check from brandarama anyways? So of course they would update the status.

mistertomlinson

24-03-2009 13:13:59

Day two... nothing. (

... and yeah, I was also a little suspicious of that envelope scan when I really have no reason to be and you definitely have no reason to photoshop an envelope. I guess some of us are just a little on edge having waited almost 2 years for several thousand dollars. Sorry, guy.

kinneylamb

24-03-2009 14:02:33

[quote2d0640a074="tbjstet"]are you people serious, you think i would photo shop a dumb envelope, jeezs
it might look a little strange as i was trying to cover up my address and put a piece a paper over the address and was just showing the date of the envelope. I dont KNOW WHY BRANDARAMA sent the money and i dont care, i am just glad i got it. mspell did know about it as they said they know they still owe me $1500, but you guys believe what you want. i was just trying to pass along some good news, but what ever. roll[/quote2d0640a074]
we REALLY appreciate your posts. dont let these fools discourage you from posting again, they're in their own minds and it's nothing personal. the rest of us know what you received and we're really, really happy you posted it b/c you were the first, and with a photo no less! so thank you!

kinneylamb

24-03-2009 14:14:46

btw, it has been said by some people who received their money, that their status did NOT change. so checking your status is not a garauntee that you've been shipped / not shipped your check.

can you people please read the thread like the rest of us, we can cut the amount of pages in 1/2 if you read and answer your own questions, this info is recently no less, like last 3 pages.

i think the guy who got DQ'd submitted a bad receipt -- either not purchased within the date time frame, or faked -- or just not sent in on time. let us know k? you still might be able to get a check from brandarama.

MamaToldMeDIY

24-03-2009 14:37:33

I thought you were the commentator breaking it all down for us, kinney.

what gives?

manOFice

24-03-2009 14:49:17

god if brandarama is sending out the checks that means we'll see the money in another 2 years, would have preferred mpell shipping it out

slambam

24-03-2009 15:13:11

[quote91ce8aac42="kinneylamb"] can you people please read the thread like the rest of us, we can cut the amount of pages in 1/2 if you read and answer your own questions, this info is recently no less, like last 3 pages.
[/quote91ce8aac42]

BUT WE GOTTA GET TO 100 PAGES!

dubbin87

24-03-2009 15:29:02

[quote962e4dcc37="slambam"]

BUT WE GOTTA GET TO 100 PAGES![/quote962e4dcc37]

cheer WE CAN DO IT! YES WE CAN!!!!!! cheer

manOFice

24-03-2009 15:42:41

[quote83aeb05d31="slambam"][quote83aeb05d31="kinneylamb"] can you people please read the thread like the rest of us, we can cut the amount of pages in 1/2 if you read and answer your own questions, this info is recently no less, like last 3 pages.
[/quote83aeb05d31]

BUT WE GOTTA GET TO 100 PAGES![/quote83aeb05d31]

And it all started with me twisted

fanofpurple

24-03-2009 17:10:17

[quotee62fc4517a="manOFice"]god if brandarama is sending out the checks that means we'll see the money in another 2 years, would have preferred mpell shipping it out[/quotee62fc4517a]

You are right about that. Mpell's website claims that THEY pay the customer

You add the promotion to your marketing materials
You purchase certificates from Mpell
You (or we) give the certificates to eligible customers
The customer mails the certificates to Mpell
[be62fc4517a]Mpell sends the customer their free gift [/be62fc4517a]
Mpell supports your customers through our 800# and email service center [/colore62fc4517a]

That will be awful if we have to wait another year. How was this any benefit to Brandarama(other than those who did not complete the purchases in the timeframe),if in the end they are still the one to pay us. ?

pink

24-03-2009 17:16:24

unlike some of you, i only have $200 coming to me. i was originally confirmed to ship sept. 07 i think?

when i got the mpell letter, the girl told me to call to check the status 2 weeks after mailing in my paperwork. i have tried to call but it's just a recording.

i then tried to send an email to the mpell support email listed on the letter.

it was returned undeliverable after several attempts.

if i go to the page where i originally signed up and try to enter my email and zipcode for YourTopBrands i can't even get past that page anymore. it gives me a code error.

is this happening to anyone else? i realize that some of you have much higher stakes, but i still want my $200.

dubbin87

24-03-2009 17:24:21

[quote5b5fd9236f="fanofpurple"]

How was this any benefit to Brandarama(other than those who did not complete the purchases in the timeframe),if in the end they are still the one to pay us. ?[/quote5b5fd9236f]

you awnsered your own question, they were able to weed out a bunch of us in one quick swoop.

AdrienD1892

24-03-2009 17:58:24

[quote97ea528cbf="dubbin87"][quote97ea528cbf="fanofpurple"]

How was this any benefit to Brandarama(other than those who did not complete the purchases in the timeframe),if in the end they are still the one to pay us. ?[/quote97ea528cbf]

you awnsered your own question, they were able to weed out a bunch of us in one quick swoop.[/quote97ea528cbf]

Kind of dodgy isn't it. They know the people who have a few grand or more coming at them probably can't afford to go out there and purchase something for that priceon the off chance they may or may not get a refund... so those people don't return their cert and voala, Brandarama doesn't have to pay them.

Very VERY dodgy

Zags1199

24-03-2009 18:12:43

Well, yeah, that's the point. They didn't expect the traffic they got and are trying to recoup any losses or potential losses.

fanofpurple

24-03-2009 18:50:49

[quote6ee2ad2276="pink"]unlike some of you, i only have $200 coming to me. i was originally confirmed to ship sept. 07 i think?

when i got the mpell letter, the girl told me to call to check the status 2 weeks after mailing in my paperwork. i have tried to call but it's just a recording.

i then tried to send an email to the mpell support email listed on the letter.

it was returned undeliverable after several attempts.

if i go to the page where i originally signed up and try to enter my email and zipcode for YourTopBrands i can't even get past that page anymore. it gives me a code error.


is this happening to anyone else? i realize that some of you have much higher stakes, but i still want my $200.[/quote6ee2ad2276]



My YTB site disappeared also, but I was able to get through via email - and they claim it was archived, and they fixed it so I can now see my 1 year + old account. I think at the bottom of the page should be a link for the members area, and you can email them through that. They replied in less than 24 hours.

manOFice

24-03-2009 20:24:35

my rewardsparade account disappeared a few days ago, support asked me to use the correct zip code... i was using the correct zip code, i'm waiting to hear back again

pink

24-03-2009 20:28:49

[quote160c0578c6="fanofpurple"][quote160c0578c6="pink"]unlike some of you, i only have $200 coming to me. i was originally confirmed to ship sept. 07 i think?

when i got the mpell letter, the girl told me to call to check the status 2 weeks after mailing in my paperwork. i have tried to call but it's just a recording.

i then tried to send an email to the mpell support email listed on the letter.

it was returned undeliverable after several attempts.

if i go to the page where i originally signed up and try to enter my email and zipcode for YourTopBrands i can't even get past that page anymore. it gives me a code error.


is this happening to anyone else? i realize that some of you have much higher stakes, but i still want my $200.[/quote160c0578c6]



My YTB site disappeared also, but I was able to get through via email - and they claim it was archived, and they fixed it so I can now see my 1 year + old account. I think at the bottom of the page should be a link for the members area, and you can email them through that. They replied in less than 24 hours.[/quote160c0578c6]

thanks! i emailed them and hopefully they'll respond.

is anyone having any luck getting responses from the mpell support email address? it's a little unsettling that no one answers their phone and the email is being returned undeliverable (

bruman

24-03-2009 20:29:27

Why does it matter if your account dissapears/is archived if you're already processed through mpell?

PS600REVX

24-03-2009 20:33:52

[quotee6563926c9="pink"][quotee6563926c9="fanofpurple"][quotee6563926c9="pink"]unlike some of you, i only have $200 coming to me. i was originally confirmed to ship sept. 07 i think?

when i got the mpell letter, the girl told me to call to check the status 2 weeks after mailing in my paperwork. i have tried to call but it's just a recording.

i then tried to send an email to the mpell support email listed on the letter.

it was returned undeliverable after several attempts.

if i go to the page where i originally signed up and try to enter my email and zipcode for YourTopBrands i can't even get past that page anymore. it gives me a code error.


is this happening to anyone else? i realize that some of you have much higher stakes, but i still want my $200.[/quotee6563926c9]



My YTB site disappeared also, but I was able to get through via email - and they claim it was archived, and they fixed it so I can now see my 1 year + old account. I think at the bottom of the page should be a link for the members area, and you can email them through that. They replied in less than 24 hours.[/quotee6563926c9]

thanks! i emailed them and hopefully they'll respond.

is anyone having any luck getting responses from the mpell support email address? it's a little unsettling that no one answers their phone and the email is being returned undeliverable ([/quotee6563926c9]

I e-mail them with no trouble and always get a response. Today I sent the message at 12pm Eastern and heard back by 6. you must be typing the address incorrectly.

JANGALANG32

24-03-2009 21:14:08

just got an email from mpell and they said they havent sent out any checks to anybody but that they would be sent out early to mid april. i was confirmed jan 29th.

edgespeeder04

24-03-2009 21:40:21

well good to know

I'm still pretty pissed off with householdsavingsclub, for the 5th month in a row I log in to check the status on my tiffany's card and nordstorm and they have both reverted back to not qualified and not confirmed, even though both have offers approved and I have mailed my forms for them in several times. In the last few months, I have fought with support over the same issue, they would approve my accounts and then when I would check weeks later, I'd be in the same
boat I am now.

Personally this sucks and its just turning me more away from them.

Gman14

24-03-2009 21:45:37

[quote7c595e21cf]We have not begun shipping reimbursements. They are scheduled to begin early to mid April.
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575[/quote7c595e21cf]

They havent started sending out checks yet... so anyone who says they've received theirs is for sure lying...

kinneylamb

24-03-2009 22:48:02

this is in direct contrast to what the first person who posted proof, has said. he mailed $3000 of certificates to mpell in january. he talked directly with mpell and they said, yes, they know they still owe him $1500 (they sent him $1500 through brandarama) and he will be getting it in the next few weeks. also, all people who reported their checks, who reported their certificate mail-in dates, mailed it in a day or two after they received them the end of january. it seems, so far, that checks are being mailed out in the order the certificates were received.

that mpell customer service doesnt know what they're talking about. they've given people so many inconsistencies in their answers to people. sorry, mpell, but its true. stop calling / emailing mpell with questions other than confirmation of receipt of your certificates, IMO.

kinneylamb

24-03-2009 22:55:06

[quote87044ed5e9="fanofpurple"]
Mpell's website claims that THEY pay the customer
You add the promotion to your marketing materials
You purchase certificates from Mpell
You (or we) give the certificates to eligible customers
The customer mails the certificates to Mpell
[b87044ed5e9]Mpell sends the customer their free gift [/b87044ed5e9]
Mpell supports your customers through our 800# and email service center [/color87044ed5e9][/quote87044ed5e9]
ok dont go by what mpell's website says. why? because their main business is doing cashbacks for cellphone rebates, etc. with other companies. so those terms and conditions dont all apply to brandarama's situation. mpell specifically told us they are following brand's rules. so in this case apparently, brandarama has to mail the check because they are apparently controlling and/or afraid to give mpell $1,000,000 to mail checks to people.

i'm not the commentator breaking this down for us, lol. i just see a lot of improvement on this thread. i was also there the first day, i was online the hour that somebody first posted about all of this at 2am on A4F.

kwoodyk34k

25-03-2009 01:54:11

[quotec11e6714b5="LucaBella"][quotec11e6714b5="dktsung1"]D

cong to all that have their cash, only I got from mpell was a denial
letter and copys of everything i send in and send back to me.[/quotec11e6714b5]

Tell us specifically what they said, I'm just curious why anyone would be DQed at this stage...[/quotec11e6714b5]

His age on this website is as listed as 17.
The rules state that we must be 18 or older.
They probably saw this when he had to send in a copy of his ID which is why he was DQ'd.

That sucks \
Especially since if MPell never got involved he would have gotten away with it.

LucaBella

25-03-2009 03:27:55

yeah... too bad he wasn't a bit older.

hmm...So new people are claiming they got paid, people are rioting for those not believing, and now Mpell is confirming that they haven't shipped anything...

I hope everyone who was angry at the "non-believers" before gets it.

SkatingCrippled

25-03-2009 06:23:53

This is why the world will end in 2012.

RolltheStampede

25-03-2009 07:20:58

[quotec23b23eab4="pink"]unlike some of you, i only have $200 coming to me. i was originally confirmed to ship sept. 07 i think?

when i got the mpell letter, the girl told me to call to check the status 2 weeks after mailing in my paperwork. i have tried to call but it's just a recording.

i then tried to send an email to the mpell support email listed on the letter.

it was returned undeliverable after several attempts.

if i go to the page where i originally signed up and try to enter my email and zipcode for YourTopBrands i can't even get past that page anymore. it gives me a code error.

is this happening to anyone else? i realize that some of you have much higher stakes, but i still want my $200.[/quotec23b23eab4]



[quotec23b23eab4="manOFice"]my rewardsparade account disappeared a few days ago, support asked me to use the correct zip code... i was using the correct zip code, i'm waiting to hear back again[/quotec23b23eab4]


Maybe some of you missed it but I explained how to get back into your account several days ago.

It seems something happened to where your address was "detached" so to say from your account so it will tell you your address is incorrect and give you an error code.

All you have to do is take any brandarama site.
take http//www.brandarama.com/pub.php?pbk=CNY04&sk=EPbp1&bk=Npqu6&flk=ARY26

Sign up for that gift with your email and address and it should reattach the address to the email account.

I had a couple of sites that told me my zip was incorrect and after I resigned up it was fixed.

Some gifts may still have disappeared from the status pages but you have to take that up with brandarama this just gets you back into your account.

Eeyore

25-03-2009 09:55:59

[quote605b5f938d="LucaBella"]yeah... too bad he wasn't a bit older.

hmm...So new people are claiming they got paid, people are rioting for those not believing, and now Mpell is confirming that they haven't shipped anything...

I hope everyone who was angry at the "non-believers" before gets it.[/quote605b5f938d]
Seems that all of the people saying they got paid, got paid from Brandarama not Mpell. Even the envelope posted here indicated that. If anything some may be confused as to which site they were being paid for but that's no reason to go off on them like some of the chronic doubters here have. It's not even eight weeks yet and we're seeing way too much of that crap already.

oleus

25-03-2009 10:00:48

fwiw - in response to my inquiry about why roughly half of my offers on my status page disappeared, KIM said that as long as i sent everything to Mpell everything should be ok.


on a technical note - you guys think Mpell meant next week (march 30-april 5) or the following week (first FULL week in april) as the sendoff-date?

PS600REVX

25-03-2009 10:19:09

[quotefdd082c8d4="oleus"]fwiw - in response to my inquiry about why roughly half of my offers on my status page disappeared, KIM said that as long as i sent everything to Mpell everything should be ok.


on a technical note - you guys think Mpell meant next week (march 30-april 5) or the following week (first FULL week in april) as the sendoff-date?[/quotefdd082c8d4]

My latest e-mail stated early to mid April and I have seen April 17th mentioned before so I would say the latter (first full week of April) is probably the case.

manOFice

25-03-2009 10:22:13

[quote05285cb69f="RolltheStampede"][quote05285cb69f="pink"]unlike some of you, i only have $200 coming to me. i was originally confirmed to ship sept. 07 i think?

when i got the mpell letter, the girl told me to call to check the status 2 weeks after mailing in my paperwork. i have tried to call but it's just a recording.

i then tried to send an email to the mpell support email listed on the letter.

it was returned undeliverable after several attempts.

if i go to the page where i originally signed up and try to enter my email and zipcode for YourTopBrands i can't even get past that page anymore. it gives me a code error.

is this happening to anyone else? i realize that some of you have much higher stakes, but i still want my $200.[/quote05285cb69f]



[quote05285cb69f="manOFice"]my rewardsparade account disappeared a few days ago, support asked me to use the correct zip code... i was using the correct zip code, i'm waiting to hear back again[/quote05285cb69f]


Maybe some of you missed it but I explained how to get back into your account several days ago.

It seems something happened to where your address was "detached" so to say from your account so it will tell you your address is incorrect and give you an error code.

All you have to do is take any brandarama site.
take http//www.brandarama.com/pub.php?pbk=CNY04&sk=EPbp1&bk=Npqu6&flk=ARY26

Sign up for that gift with your email and address and it should reattach the address to the email account.

I had a couple of sites that told me my zip was incorrect and after I resigned up it was fixed.

Some gifts may still have disappeared from the status pages but you have to take that up with brandarama this just gets you back into your account.[/quote05285cb69f]

thats to much work, lol

mweiss

25-03-2009 11:53:45

I know it's already been stated that the gifts won't be sent out until early-mid April but here is more confirmation of that, as well as confirmation of whether or not there will be signature required upon delivery.

"We have received (2/4/09) and approved your 2 certificates. They are being processed. Please remember the certificate states to allow 8-10 weeks to receive your gift. Reimbursements are scheduled to begin early to mid April and no signature is required. We appreciate your patience.

Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575"

ILoveToys

25-03-2009 13:40:46

[quotefa852d322d="kwoodyk34k"][quotefa852d322d="LucaBella"][quotefa852d322d="dktsung1"]D

cong to all that have their cash, only I got from mpell was a denial
letter and copys of everything i send in and send back to me.[/quotefa852d322d]

Tell us specifically what they said, I'm just curious why anyone would be DQed at this stage...[/quotefa852d322d]

His age on this website is as listed as 17.
The rules state that we must be 18 or older.
They probably saw this when he had to send in a copy of his ID which is why he was DQ'd.

That sucks \
Especially since if MPell never got involved he would have gotten away with it.[/quotefa852d322d]

That does not suck at all. He had no right to complete the site...probably was frauding offers and doesn't deserve to get paid. I'm glad that he got dq'ed if that's the case.

steveyankee

25-03-2009 14:13:15

Do you teach ethics 101?

Way to make assumptions too.

You just prove nothing good comes out of Michigan.

RolltheStampede

25-03-2009 14:21:55

You guys remind of those cyber bullying commercials
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=seOQyMvG99w

ltgeneralkasty

25-03-2009 14:43:05

[quote18997aa8ac="mweiss"]I know it's already been stated that the gifts won't be sent out until early-mid April but here is more confirmation of that, as well as confirmation of whether or not there will be signature required upon delivery.

"We have received (2/4/09) and approved your 2 certificates. They are being processed. Please remember the certificate states to allow 8-10 weeks to receive your gift. Reimbursements are scheduled to begin early to mid April and no signature is required. We appreciate your patience.

Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575"[/quote18997aa8ac]

hi guys, just recently joined, a friend told me fipg forums had a big thread on brandarama and i decided to check it out.

i also got an email response back from mpell, but not with any dates, just that my submission's been received, approved, and currently in processing. It states in a larger font that it takes 8-10 weeks from submission to work, which is the same as mweiss got above as well.

So here's to hoping we get it!

Crizo

25-03-2009 14:54:39

If my various Brandarama site accounts have been "archived" and I can't log in, do I need to get them reactivated for any reason?

I've already sent in all my forms to Mpell who has acknowledged their receipt and approval.

Any ideas?

Zags1199

25-03-2009 15:04:39

I would ask to have them reactivated because no one is really sure yet whether Brandarama or Mpell is doing the fulfillment. If it's Brandarama, you will at least be able to check your shipping status since they still seem to be updating it.

kinneylamb

25-03-2009 15:28:09

if someone gets dq'd because theyre 17, he either paid for offers with gc's or his parents cc's. at 17 you can have a custodial bank account but he cannot have a debit card for himself. it sucks but thats the law. so its highly unlikely he was going to pay for his offers. there are benefits to being 18, and thats that. we dont need minors screwing this up for all of us.

peanut123

25-03-2009 15:37:11

There's only a small amount of true information among these posts. Does anyone realize that Mpell has been HIRED by Brandorama? They are in no WAY partners! Their only position was to verify all the paperwork and documentation sent in by the stated deadlines. So many people have sent in bogus invoices that it has caused Brandorama to request copied scans of EACH and EVERY piece of paper sent in, to verify the purchases are legit! That means, good luck in getting the checks sent out in April since they now have to go through all our paperwork with a fine tooth comb!

peanut123

25-03-2009 15:41:03

Approval and acceptance of paperwork by Mpell means NOTHING. It's Brandorama that needs to give the final say and cut the checks to mpell in order to fulfill the payments.

kinneylamb

25-03-2009 15:45:14

i was thinking that. makes sense that brandarama would only pay mpell the fee for hiring them, not the whole $ amount that goes to all of us lol. makes sense the checks would come from brandarama. but we'll see.

oleus

25-03-2009 15:58:49

[quote14804bb1c3="peanut123"]Approval and acceptance of paperwork by Mpell means NOTHING. It's Brandorama that needs to give the final say and cut the checks to mpell in order to fulfill the payments.[/quote14804bb1c3]

which is exactly why some of us don't expect these new rounds of checks to get to us before 2011.

trust me, i hope the "give mpell a chance, it hasn't even been 8-10 weeks, you guys are crazy" crowd are right and that i'm 10000% wrong, but once it got out that mpell wasn't the one actually sending the checks the game changed back to crap IMHO, and those of us who spent a lot of money to send our mpell certificates in on time probably got played for fools in brandarama's "who can we screw out of their prize with the 30 day time limit" scam.

oleus

RolltheStampede

25-03-2009 16:07:02

Im gonna sing the Doom Song
doom doom doo doom doom
doom doom do DOOM,
doomy doomy doomy
doom doom doo doom doom
doom doom do DOOM,
doomy doomy doomy

oleus

25-03-2009 16:08:21

you know- sometimes, the doom-and-gloom crowd are right.

roll

hum1m9e8r8b

25-03-2009 16:13:08

[quote5eab3a1bff="oleus"]you know- sometimes, the doom-and-gloom crowd are right.

roll[/quote5eab3a1bff]
like when?

slambam

25-03-2009 16:13:08

This is like the 5th time I'm gonna say it, where do you people see that Brandarama is sending all the gifts? I'll believe it when I see it. Has mpell told someone this or what? All I know is that mpell has stated the checks will start being sent in early-mid April, and they have specifically said that they will NOT require a signature. I have [bcf5a469bcf]NEVER[/bcf5a469bcf] heard of Brandarama [bcf5a469bcf]EVER[/bcf5a469bcf] sending something without a signature required. 90% of the assumptions here have been wrong, so why do people even keep posting them? If you get an e-mail copy it here and if you get a check post a pic. The sky is falling in this damn place 24/7. Why do you people consistantly believe that mpell/Brandrama is out to fuck you over, or that it'll be another 2 years before we see anything? If they were still gonna take there sweet ass time, they wouldn't have been stupid enough to hire mpell in the first place. Seriously, what fucking sense does that make? And for the noobs reading this shit, you better off going to a psychic, they can pull shit out of there ass better than half the people here. Mpell tells people that check will start being sent out in early-mid April. Mpell appears to greatly care about there reputation. Plus, there CS seems to me (and I think most everone will agree) to be top notch. Relax people, give it time.

VENT OVER

RolltheStampede

25-03-2009 16:16:12

[quotef012a36bba="slambam"]This is like the 5th time I'm gonna say it, where do you people see that Brandarama is sending all the gifts? I[/quotef012a36bba]

i was gonna say that but decided to sing the doom song because nobidy knows anything since we havent hit 8 weeks yet and the only checks people have gotten have been signature request from brandarama.

doom doom doo doom doom
doom doom do DOOM,
doomy doomy doomy

doom doom doo doom doom
doom doom do DOOM,
doomy doomy doomy

the end

kinneylamb

25-03-2009 16:18:07

i really dont think brandarama set out to do mpell as a scam to weed out, sift through, screw people out of their gifts. as was stated before, if they wanted to screw us over, they would have left things the way they were, their terms and conditions stating they can change the terms or cancel the program at any time. i think it was due to their shipping list being extremely long, and customers complaining to them. so they, according to the letter, responded to their customers requests with this new faster program. being a business though, they did opt for a cashback program, probably to cut down on gifts from 1+ year ago but who knows. the fee theyre paying mpell isn't cheap either.

on a side note, i took enjoyment in roll's post because his current avatar is that alien dancing with headphones on.

kinneylamb

25-03-2009 16:22:13

i started losing confidence in mpells answers back with the "20 week" remark, then the conflicting "beginning of april" and "after april 17" remarks. but now i completely lost confidence in their cs, since people have mailed certs in jan and received checks back. i think the ppl at mpell are drunk, highly medicated or just without info of whats going on in their own company.

all i'm saying is just consider it -- they processed 400+ certificates per day. i think there are many people working at mpell. i dont think the cs is competely in the loop with whats going with the other people at their company.

RolltheStampede

25-03-2009 16:29:24

http//i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/sezziboo/gir-and-pig.png[" alt=""/img17dcde98a9]

bennyboy5768

25-03-2009 16:29:28

[quote0cc4cae619="kinneylamb"]if someone gets dq'd because theyre 17, he either paid for offers with gc's or his parents cc's. at 17 you can have a custodial bank account but he cannot have a debit card for himself. it sucks but thats the law. so its highly unlikely he was going to pay for his offers. there are benefits to being 18, and thats that. we dont need minors screwing this up for all of us.[/quote0cc4cae619]

Untrue; I started working at 17 and I was able to open my own checking and savings account, debit card and all, without the need of parental custodianship, and my bank (was) WaMu.

mariners1999

25-03-2009 16:33:59

[quote8d86d4485c="kinneylamb"] and my bank (was) WaMu.[/quote8d86d4485c]



^^^^^^^^^^ twisted ^^^^^^^ Man did I LOL at this.....

We all know that Wamu does EVERYTHING on the up and up
and never fucks up!!!!

lol

NastyNinja

25-03-2009 16:48:37

[quotea29d5bc59e="slambam"]Hmm... Hopefully tomorrow. You send your forms in right when you got them Nasty?[/quotea29d5bc59e]

I sent them right after I bought my gifts, but it was as soon as I could purchase them so the same day

NastyNinja

25-03-2009 16:52:32

[quote14ef9eb50e="bruman"][quote14ef9eb50e="ploppsdman"]Seeing as how the only people reporting having received checks are people who just signed up now, it's bs to me until a few of us who have been around start posting this. And, so far, no real proof, particularly proof from mpell is being posted.[/quote14ef9eb50e]

I know right.. I mean, I believe them, but at the same time it is kind of strange. For the amount of people that did receive them there is real lack of information.

I'm curious if peoples gift status are changing to shipped when there check is sent out. According to the poster on A4F that was the case for him. For the other dude who said his gift dissapeared.. trying looking at all the sites. Some of mine dissapeared, others did not. I don't think they are deleting them when they are shipped out.

Also, if you went shipped, please provide the date of when you sent out your certificates. It seems to be going in order of process date. It's also strange that some people are receiving half and some are receiving full.
Nasty, was the reason you received two checks was for two gifts ($1,500 and $500 gift?) or why did they separate them. I thought mpell said they would all be on one check so that is confusing as well.[/quote14ef9eb50e]

Yo Bru,

They split them up because I had returned one of the items I bought, and the fraud dept had to check that out. Funny thing though is that I haven't actually GOTTEN them yet, but they went shipped a week ago......weird and when I call MPell I always seem to get disconnected. I'm sure it will all work. I don't trust the Postal Service by any means!

mariners1999

25-03-2009 17:01:14

[quote147c72fd58="NastyNinja"]
They split them up because I had returned one of the items I bought, and the fraud dept had to check that out. [/quote147c72fd58]


HUH??????? You returned an item you bought to fullfill the Mpell certificate.... Then Mpell called the place you bought the item to see if you returned it???? Do I have that right?

? M

jtackman

25-03-2009 17:21:11

yep, that sucks...cuz i returned every thing. oh well, its only 3 grand. i was going to go blow it on booze anyway

dubbin87

25-03-2009 17:59:06

woot

kinneylamb

25-03-2009 18:04:53

[quote45695f4ee9="bennyboy5768"]
Untrue; I started working at 17 and I was able to open my own checking and savings account, debit card and all, without the need of parental custodianship, and my bank (was) WaMu.[/quote45695f4ee9]
you can't do that where i live. maybe its a state-by-state thing.

kinneylamb

25-03-2009 18:09:37

do you have confirmation that the fraud dept checked that out, or did you kind of figure / guess / speculate that yourself (nasty)?

manOFice

25-03-2009 18:31:23

we have a million posts of mpell saying they don't care what you do with your gift that you bought to fulfill the receipt.

LucaBella

25-03-2009 19:06:31

if we could stop turning on each other and blame brandarama, that'd be great. Sactimonious & probable hypocritical responses chiding each other are unnecessary.

However, I will totally say that the Peanut's story makes no sense. Brandarama would hardly hire and pay Mpell to collect and weed through receipts and forms only to have Mpell send them to brandarama so that they can weed through them again. Once again, we have some totally new poster making comments designed to get us all riled up. It needs to stop.

And for the record, I had a checking account when I was 11, and had a secured credit card linked to that account in 10th grade. The kid broke the age rules, but he could have easily had his own debit card/CC and did everything else on the up and up. I think this is 100% brandarama's fault. they should have raised requirements or pulled entire websites if they felt overwhelmed. To continue to run these sites while sending out letters that the average person won't even open to avoid paying out gifts is disgusting and fraudulent. So blame Brandarama.

slambam

25-03-2009 19:52:01

[quote6199fad3e4="NastyNinja"]
Yo Bru,

They split them up because I had returned one of the items I bought, and the fraud dept had to check that out. Funny thing though is that I haven't actually GOTTEN them yet, but they went shipped a week ago......weird and when I call MPell I always seem to get disconnected. I'm sure it will all work. I don't trust the Postal Service by any means![/quote6199fad3e4]

I don't want to be rude here, but I GOTTA call shenanigans on this one. So mpell was receiving 400+ forms a day, approving them, and THEN verifying all the receipts, after they've approved them all?

1. Is that even legal for these companies to give out information about orders like that?
2. Do you realize how long that would take?!
3. Do retail stores even keep track of this stuff that well? I would think it would take a lot of looking into, especially for transactions at the actual store (not online).
4. DO YOU REALIZE HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE?! Let's say 400 forms a day, for 20 of the 30 days. I'd say that is probably the bare minimum of what they received. That is 8,000 receipts MINIMUM. According to http//www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_2qhzd they have ~50 employees. I'd imagine many of them are management and not even touching these forms. So that would be 200 forms per person to check. Doable I suppose, let's say that's about ~25 a week. Very doable, but how many other promotions do they have going? I'm sure more than just ARG.
5. Are these companies going to cooperate with mpell in giving them information about these receipts?
6. Mpell has stated that they don't give a shit what we do with the gifts, as long as we originally purchase them.
7. Why would they approve all of these forms, and THEN try to confirm all the receipts?

I'll believe it when I see it. It's possible I suppose, but I would be extremely shocked if this is the case. Pretty far fetched...

PS600REVX

25-03-2009 19:59:02

[quote0b223a64b1="slambam"][quote0b223a64b1="NastyNinja"]
Yo Bru,

They split them up because I had returned one of the items I bought, and the fraud dept had to check that out. Funny thing though is that I haven't actually GOTTEN them yet, but they went shipped a week ago......weird and when I call MPell I always seem to get disconnected. I'm sure it will all work. I don't trust the Postal Service by any means![/quote0b223a64b1]

I don't want to be rude here, but I GOTTA call shenanigans on this one. So mpell was receiving 400+ forms a day, approving them, and THEN verifying all the receipts, after they've approved them all?

1. Is that even legal for these companies to give out information about orders like that?
2. Do you realize how long that would take?!
3. Do retail stores even keep track of this stuff that well? I would think it would take a lot of looking into, especially for transactions at the actual store (not online).
4. DO YOU REALIZE HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE?! Let's say 400 forms a day, for 20 of the 30 days. I'd say that is probably the bare minimum of what they received. That is 8,000 receipts MINIMUM. According to http//www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_2qhzd they have ~50 employees. I'd imagine many of them are management and not even touching these forms. So that would be 200 forms per person to check. Doable I suppose, let's say that's about ~25 a week. Very doable, but how many other promotions do they have going? I'm sure more than just ARG.
5. Are these companies going to cooperate with mpell in giving them information about these receipts?
6. Mpell has stated that they don't give a shit what we do with the gifts, as long as we originally purchase them.
7. Why would they approve all of these forms, and THEN try to confirm all the receipts?

I'll believe it when I see it. It's possible I suppose, but I would be extremely shocked if this is the case. Pretty far fetched...[/quote0b223a64b1]


Why, why, why do you people listen to the bullshitters on here. You think it is even slightly possible BR or MPELL could call every store have them look up a person's name, what they bought and check the status of if they returned it and be successful in the store helping them!!!! Are you insane??? There is 0 chance of that, not even 1 in a million, 0!! Unreal. Just ignore these losers and wait the 10 weeks then start speculating and bitching. This thread is actually becoming painful to read.

PS Slam , I'm not saying you are one of the people that believe this, just your post pertained to it.

kinneylamb

25-03-2009 20:00:14

lucabella, i dont know if its your age or what, but today when you're 11 years old, in states like mine, you can only have a custodial account, it has your name, but your parent or guardian's name is on it, and they have control until you're 18. then you can remove them or get your own. and i dont know who gave you a secure credit card in 10th grade, you cant even get a credit card at that age, and you'd need to have credit to get approved. let alone attach it to your checking account. some life you had in 10th grade, i was dying to get out and live that life.

and yea we need to stop confusing each other with empty comments. if it's talked about, it needed to be backed up. details are important in the brandarama thread.

and i agree with you lucabella 100% about brandarama. i thought the same thing. they just let the business come right in, full well knowing they could not fulfill the gift (on time).

JANGALANG32

25-03-2009 20:20:04

wow, i dont know who is dumber the people posting the lies or the people believing them? im not checking this thread again until april 7th. the topic is now checking accts and the age requirements.

LucaBella

25-03-2009 20:39:01

[quotef315990033="kinneylamb"]lucabella, i dont know if its your age or what, but today when you're 11 years old, in states like mine, you can only have a custodial account, it has your name, but your parent or guardian's name is on it, and they have control until you're 18. then you can remove them or get your own. and i dont know who gave you a secure credit card in 10th grade, you cant even get a credit card at that age, and you'd need to have credit to get approved. let alone attach it to your checking account. some life you had in 10th grade, i was dying to get out and live that life.

and yea we need to stop confusing each other with empty comments. if it's talked about, it needed to be backed up. details are important in the brandarama thread.

and i agree with you lucabella 100% about brandarama. i thought the same thing. they just let the business come right in, full well knowing they could not fulfill the gift (on time).[/quotef315990033]

Kinney, it could just be some states. So I guess all I'm saying is, cut the kid a break, even though yes, he did sign up underage.. I guess I feel like he's already being punished by getting nothing, so rubbing his nose in it seems cruel. I want all hate directed at brandarama! We're all scared of not getting our money so we're freaking out, fear is always bad. I just want us all to try and be civil and think before we post. Yeah, thinking will be new to me too.. heh.



We need wiki posts like on slickdeals, so that all important info could be contained in the first post...

kwoodyk34k

25-03-2009 22:37:17

Just so people know how ridiculous them checking returns is,

I called Best Buy about 6 months ago to check up on an order I placed and they wouldn't even confirm what the item was without my credit card number even though I provided them with my name, address, phone, ect...

I remember this because I had just got a new debit card with a new number and lost it somewhere in my house so I was SOL and couldn't even talk to them about my purchase.

ghounds07

25-03-2009 22:58:56

For all the naysayers out there I have proof

http/" alt=""/img291.imageshack.us/img="291/8997/whyarepeopleposting.jpg[" alt=""/img4ecfa740df]

Now shh.

oleus

25-03-2009 23:08:01

that looks photoshopped.

but a very good photoshop job, though. close call.

nygiantzrock

25-03-2009 23:13:33

Thankyou! FINALLY. Stop complaining and yelling at each other because important posts like the one above get hidden in this mess. This ones gotta be real, he has 467 posts. CREDIBILITY and VALIDITY! Brandarama is finally following through.

ashilef

26-03-2009 00:02:32

[quotece2277924e="ghounds07"]For all the naysayers out there I have proof

http/" alt=""/img291.imageshack.us/img="291/8997/whyarepeopleposting.jpg[" alt=""/imgce2277924e]

Now shh.[/quotece2277924e]

lol Looks good to me!!!

mistertomlinson

26-03-2009 00:23:01

I don't know... I'm gonna have to agree with Oleus on this one. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something unusual about that check. Maybe I'm being paranoid.

dubbin87

26-03-2009 00:47:52

[quoteb00bada4cb="nygiantzrock"]Thankyou! FINALLY. Stop complaining and yelling at each other because important posts like the one above get hidden in this mess. This ones gotta be real, he has 467 posts. CREDIBILITY and VALIDITY! Brandarama is finally following through.[/quoteb00bada4cb]

don't forget he's been here since 06....we gotta belive him! shock

RolltheStampede

26-03-2009 06:33:51

[quotef0815adf14="ashilef"][quotef0815adf14="ghounds07"]For all the naysayers out there I have proof

http/" alt=""/img291.imageshack.us/img="291/8997/whyarepeopleposting.jpg[" alt=""/imgf0815adf14]

Now shh.[/quotef0815adf14]

lol Looks good to me!!![/quotef0815adf14]


No no something is wrong. Im not sure that is US $s

LucaBella

26-03-2009 06:50:58

Look Stampede, I haven't had a problem with you before, but this is ridiculous. Stop turning on our members. If ghounds says he got paid and offers PROOF, who are you to doubt him?

Straight up, you a whack ho!

wiebelhaus03

26-03-2009 08:12:24

I know what's wrong......they forgot to sign it

chewy

26-03-2009 08:26:35

[quote781dcde39e="ghounds07"]For all the naysayers out there I have proof

http/" alt=""/img291.imageshack.us/img="291/8997/whyarepeopleposting.jpg[" alt=""/img781dcde39e]

Now shh.[/quote781dcde39e]

I hope ms never gets rid of paint. so many good laughs

nygiantzrock

26-03-2009 09:34:28

Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received the $1000 they owed me it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[img6a68eefd98]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img6a68eefd98][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][img6a68eefd98]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img6a68eefd98]
[img6a68eefd98]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img6a68eefd98][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][img6a68eefd98]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img6a68eefd98]

PS600REVX

26-03-2009 09:38:52

[quotef89da06506="nygiantzrock"]Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[imgf89da06506]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/imgf89da06506][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][imgf89da06506]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/imgf89da06506]
[imgf89da06506]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/imgf89da06506][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][imgf89da06506]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/imgf89da06506][/quotef89da06506]

Nuh uh, I don't think I believe you. I don't think they make $1000 bills any longer unless they kept some old ones in storage. I guess that is possible but I'm not sure....lololol

RolltheStampede

26-03-2009 10:11:09

You ever look at the back of a thousand dollar bill?
You ever look at the back of a thousand dollar billl.... On Weed?!?
Government agents in the bushes!!!
Red Team GO!, Red Team GO!

kwoodyk34k

26-03-2009 12:08:10

[quote33163e8264="nygiantzrock"]Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received the $1000 they owed me it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[img33163e8264]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img33163e8264][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][img33163e8264]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img33163e8264]
[img33163e8264]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img33163e8264][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][img33163e8264]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img33163e8264][/quote33163e8264]

It wasn't funny until I saw the "Do Fish Get Thirsty? Take Dumb Test!"
Then I started laughing.

manOFice

26-03-2009 12:25:36

The image is blocked for me, so was nygiantzrock fucking around like everyone else?

freeipodplayer

26-03-2009 12:28:28

[quote8697a8f90d="manOFice"]The image is blocked for me, so was nygiantzrock fucking around like everyone else?[/quote8697a8f90d]

nah, it is a legit check

PS600REVX

26-03-2009 12:39:52

[quote42cde3a01c="manOFice"]The image is blocked for me, so was nygiantzrock fucking around like everyone else?[/quote42cde3a01c]

Lol, ya read the post and the dates, etc. Completed, approved and shipped within 3 days!!! And the picture is of a $1000 bill. Funny stuff....

hum1m9e8r8b

26-03-2009 12:41:24

[quote329443cb6d="manOFice"]The image is blocked for me, so was nygiantzrock fucking around like everyone else?[/quote329443cb6d]
It's a picture of a $1000 bill.

RolltheStampede

26-03-2009 13:07:37

Thanks Buzz Killington
http//asupremenewyorkthing.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/buzzkillington.jpg[" alt=""/img9438fb5e45][/i]

kinneylamb

26-03-2009 15:46:28

[quote5c771257da="nygiantzrock"]Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received the $1000 they owed me it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[img5c771257da]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img5c771257da][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][img5c771257da]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img5c771257da]
[img5c771257da]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img5c771257da][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][img5c771257da]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img5c771257da][/quote5c771257da]
you're a total ass for doing that. that was too serious of a post to be funny.

nygiantzrock

26-03-2009 16:03:57

[quotea890ef0776="kinneylamb"]you're a total ass for doing that. that was too serious of a post to be funny.[/quotea890ef0776]
Wah Wah

Eeyore

26-03-2009 16:44:20

[quotec577b8db63="kinneylamb"]
you're a total ass for doing that. that was too serious of a post to be funny.[/quotec577b8db63]
If you actually believed he got paid three days after starting a Brandarama site, and then believed they paid him with a $1000 bill, I don't know who is the ass...

dubbin87

26-03-2009 17:10:15

[quoteb9e20db16b="JANGALANG32"]wow, i dont know who is dumber the people posting the lies [bb9e20db16b]or the people believing them? [/bb9e20db16b].[/quoteb9e20db16b]

?

dubbin87

26-03-2009 17:11:38

I have a feeling if i posted something to the effect that I called Kim today and she told me the sky was green I could get atleast one person here to belive me.

MamaToldMeDIY

26-03-2009 17:18:28

[quote05010bc319="RolltheStampede"]You ever look at the back of a thousand dollar bill?
You ever look at the back of a thousand dollar billl.... On Weed?!?
Government agents in the bushes!!!
Red Team GO!, Red Team GO![/quote05010bc319]


hahahaha RTS knows whats up

HALF BAKED babyyyyyyyyy

I think I've seen it like 700 times, at least. We used to watch it almost every day for 2 or 3 years straight, it seemed.

nygiantzrock

26-03-2009 17:29:01

[quote0cb5f423e3="dubbin87"]I have a feeling if i posted something to the effect that I called Kim today and she told me the sky was green I could get atleast one person here to belive me.[/quote0cb5f423e3] Wait, so you called Kim and she said that the sky was green??? or was that a hypothetical situation?????????????????????

kalinkster

26-03-2009 17:57:26

[quote20773b0d91="nygiantzrock"]Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received the $1000 they owed me it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[img20773b0d91]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img20773b0d91][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][img20773b0d91]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img20773b0d91]
[img20773b0d91]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img20773b0d91][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][img20773b0d91]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img20773b0d91][/quote20773b0d91]

Wow, good for you! I was told by Kim that I was one of the few lucky people who will get a check from that Best Buy $500 Gift card that was confirmed December 26th 2007. ?

Anyway, I won't be surprise if YTB will have me wait for another year or two LOL! lol

SkatingCrippled

26-03-2009 19:38:35

[quote4c6f579243="kalinkster"][quote4c6f579243="nygiantzrock"]Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received the $1000 they owed me it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[img4c6f579243]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img4c6f579243][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][img4c6f579243]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img4c6f579243]
[img4c6f579243]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img4c6f579243][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][img4c6f579243]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img4c6f579243][/quote4c6f579243]

Wow, good for you! I was told by Kim that I was one of the few lucky people who will get a check from that Best Buy $500 Gift card that was confirmed December 26th 2007. ?

Anyway, I won't be surprise if YTB will have me wait for another year or two LOL! lol[/quote4c6f579243]

...lol

Zags1199

26-03-2009 19:51:56

[quotecccaadf562="kalinkster"][quotecccaadf562="nygiantzrock"]Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received the $1000 they owed me it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[imgcccaadf562]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/imgcccaadf562][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][imgcccaadf562]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/imgcccaadf562]
[imgcccaadf562]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/imgcccaadf562][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][imgcccaadf562]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/imgcccaadf562][/quotecccaadf562]

Wow, good for you! I was told by Kim that I was one of the few lucky people who will get a check from that Best Buy $500 Gift card that was confirmed December 26th 2007. ?

Anyway, I won't be surprise if YTB will have me wait for another year or two LOL! lol[/quotecccaadf562]

Yeah...

dubbin87

26-03-2009 19:56:38

[quote13694734ab="kalinkster"][quote13694734ab="nygiantzrock"]Got my Brandarama money today! Actually received the $1000 they owed me it in cash which is amazing, thankyou brandarama I love you. Here is my breakdown
3/23/09- completed offers
3/23/09- got approved on all my offers instantly
3/23/09- sent in certs.
3/24/09 Certs approved- Confirmed to Ship
3/25/09- status says shipped
3/26/09- Recieved in mail box today!

Looks like Brandarama and mpell are working backwards, fine with me. I know I just joined and don't have many posts, but you have to believe me. I even attatched an image of the money below. (I accidentally threw out the envelope and all other proof while frantically opening it)

[img13694734ab]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img13694734ab][=http//img="136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000bill.jpg][img13694734ab]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/8435/1000bill.jpg[" alt=""/img13694734ab]
[img13694734ab]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img13694734ab][=http//g.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/][img13694734ab]http/" alt=""/img136.imageshack.us/img="136/1000bill.jpg/1/w640.png[" alt=""/img13694734ab][/quote13694734ab]

Wow, good for you! I was told by Kim that I was one of the few lucky people who will get a check from that Best Buy $500 Gift card that was confirmed December 26th 2007. ?

Anyway, I won't be surprise if YTB will have me wait for another year or two LOL! lol[/quote13694734ab]
oh..

edgespeeder04

26-03-2009 21:50:36

this thread has become so freaken useless, at this point noone is going to believe anyone else when we start receiving stuff. this sucks

ghounds07

26-03-2009 23:16:45

[quote6618c1b7eb="edgespeeder04"]this thread has become so freaken useless, at this point noone is going to believe anyone else when we start receiving stuff. this sucks[/quote6618c1b7eb]

mission accomplished everyone.

nygiantzrock

26-03-2009 23:55:31

[quote687586c933="ghounds07"][quote687586c933="edgespeeder04"]this thread has become so freaken useless, at this point noone is going to believe anyone else when we start receiving stuff. this sucks[/quote687586c933]

mission accomplished everyone.[/quote687586c933] lol

kinneylamb

27-03-2009 01:17:21

[quote7898c21bdc="Eeyore"][quote7898c21bdc="kinneylamb"]
you're a total ass for doing that. that was too serious of a post to be funny.[/quote7898c21bdc]
If you actually believed he got paid three days after starting a Brandarama site, and then believed they paid him with a $1000 bill, I don't know who is the ass...[/quote7898c21bdc]
youre the ass. you have a damn chipmunk with a fedora on. i mean damn. and it wasnt the $1000 bill it was the list. double ass. make that two cheeks of the same ass.

kinneylamb

27-03-2009 01:23:35

you boys wanna jerk around and have all the fun you want, go ahead. you obviously dont have bills to pay or any sense of money. otherwise you'd take this a little more serious and post things that are um real. you guys go way beyond the appropriate level of joking. and way beyond appropriate for that matter, period.

kinneylamb

27-03-2009 01:28:06

the problem with fipg is the off topic forum. thats where you need to be taking all this shit. not here. you wanna vent, joke around, shoot the breeze, that's normal go ahead. but theres an off topic section for that, which should be renamed to something else so people get it. like "DIY users you can come here and talk about that here too" i mean really

i emailed brandarama a few days back, and mpell yesterday, to ask and confirm something important, that may answer a few questions. and you know what? i deliberately didn't want to post it here cause i didn't have the energy "to put up with" some of you. theres more mocking than ligitimate responses to actual posts with good info. so im not sharing it here until i at least get through a single page without the smart ass parade all over it. you did that to me. thats what you guys do.

dubbin87

27-03-2009 02:22:55

[quotebec200d3e2="kinneylamb"]you boys wanna jerk around and have all the fun you want, go ahead. you obviously dont have bills to pay or any sense of money. otherwise you'd take this a little more serious and post things that are um real. you guys go way beyond the appropriate level of joking. and way beyond appropriate for that matter, period.[/quotebec200d3e2]

I have bills to pay, but i have a job for that. DIY is play money, when I entered in this whole deal way back when that's what it was intended for. If you are doing DIY's to make ends meet then I'm sorry but this is the wrong way to go about it.

Chill the F out dude. roll
[quotebec200d3e2="kinneylamb"]the problem with fipg is the off topic forum. thats where you need to be taking all this shit. not here. you wanna vent, joke around, shoot the breeze, that's normal go ahead. but theres an off topic section for that, which should be renamed to something else so people get it. like "DIY users you can come here and talk about that here too" i mean really

i emailed brandarama a few days back, and mpell yesterday, to ask and confirm something important, that may answer a few questions. and you know what? i deliberately didn't want to post it here cause i didn't have the energy "to put up with" some of you. theres more mocking than ligitimate responses to actual posts with good info. so im not sharing it here until i at least get through a single page without the smart ass parade all over it. you did that to me. thats what you guys do.[/quotebec200d3e2]

violin violin You should try sleeping at night, seem to be a bit crabby.

edgespeeder04

27-03-2009 04:40:56

Useful info, they seem to be toying with me.

In terms of my tiffanys and nordstorm gift, over the past few months the status has gone from confirmed to ship back to confirm or not qualified and has yet to be fixed. They claim that when it goes back to not qualified I should have received a letter from mpell which is a false accusation, since the lady I first spoke to told me it was a system error and that the manager had to reinstated it. <--- which didn't work.

Either way I still have to print out the forums yet again for the 3rd time and mail them yet again.

now that is useful info.

kinneylamb

27-03-2009 05:12:58

what i'm saying is there's an immaturity here. there's a lack of seriosity. maybe some people here need to get burned a few times before they wise up. you've been screwed by a business, even if its a gift, supplemental income. the real winners are the people who reported brandarama and received their checks last year. but since we're all so patient, we're hanging on for the best now. it gets out of control though. keep the focus. and edgespeeder you should be one of the people banging down their office door at this point, or reporting them. why are you sending them forms three times? F the website, the paperwork is what they need. they had proof from you how many months ago? get on that. and grab em by the balls. maybe you'll get a check in a few weeks.

RolltheStampede

27-03-2009 06:32:25

[quote3c524df631="dubbin87"]
I have bills to pay, but i have a job for that. DIY is play money, when I entered in this whole deal way back when that's what it was intended for. If you are doing DIY's to make ends meet then I'm sorry but this is the wrong way to go about it.

[/quote3c524df631]


Hmmm so he is smarter than the average bear.

I agree this money is play money. You dont count on this stuff to get your bills paid. Your bills are your own responsibility. Never count this freebie money till the check is in the bank and everything is cleared.

If you get some extra cash and want to pay some bills of, fine but dont make a career out of this.

As for all the stupid comments, no one is gonna get crap till 8-10 weeks which isnt now so why even come here looking for any valid information till then?

AdrienD1892

27-03-2009 06:55:36

[quotebdccb10f63="dubbin87"]
I have bills to pay, but i have a job for that. DIY is play money, when I entered in this whole deal way back when that's what it was intended for. If you are doing DIY's to make ends meet then I'm sorry but this is the wrong way to go about it. [/quotebdccb10f63]

I have to agree with them. Sorry Kinney, but they're right. While I agree this thread is WAY stupid and long and has passed the point of being useful ages ago, by now people need to laugh to keep from being upset. Money [ibdccb10f63]is[/ibdccb10f63] serious, but you knew going into trying freebies that there was a chance you wouldn't get your money. Yeah you spent some money to try and make a profit, but sometimes you have to take the loss.

lishrugli

It is what it is. If you get the money, YAY! You got extra money, if you don't, then you're not worse off than you were before.

Chillax.

tbjstet

27-03-2009 07:11:57

Ok for those of you who did not believe i got my money. I emailed mpell and here is there reply


We (Mpell Solutions) did not send you a check. We forwarded your information to Active Response.
Active Response sent you a check for $1,500. You communicated directly with their upper management and they sent you a check.
Any questions and communication regarding any remaining reimbursement should be directed to Active Response at 877-312-7263. They will be able to answer your questions.
Thank you

livingloud28

27-03-2009 07:51:08

Lovely and I just recieved a Birthday check from ARG for $2000 !

RolltheStampede

27-03-2009 08:09:52

[quotee0cc522556="tbjstet"]Ok for those of you who did not believe i got my money. I emailed mpell and here is there reply


We (Mpell Solutions) did not send you a check. We forwarded your information to Active Response.
Active Response sent you a check for $1,500. You communicated directly with their upper management and they sent you a check.
Any questions and communication regarding any remaining reimbursement should be directed to Active Response at 877-312-7263. They will be able to answer your questions.
Thank you[/quotee0cc522556]


SO whats the contact info for the upper management so i can get paid?
LOL J/K

Now on with the stupid comments D

Eeyore

27-03-2009 09:03:49

[quotedaad3fc290="kinneylamb"]youre the ass. [/quotedaad3fc290]
To quote the bard lighten up, Francis.

Mpell said at the outset that it would take 8 to 10 weeks to ship the rebates. That is not until next week at the earliest for someone who sent their certificate back immediately upon receipt. Speculation and innuendo prior to that time is juvenile and asinine. Some here are just having fun passing the time but your sense of humor appears clogged. Why are you wasting your time bothering them until the appropriate time passes? Is your OCD acting up?

As mentioned above, anyone who relies on freebie payouts to live on is insane. You'd be money ahead flipping burgers.

As for the personal insult, I can take it. I'm 51 years old, run my own businesses and have commercial rental property which affords me the free time to do stuff like this for fun. Sorry your life sucks so bad. I'll attempt more seriosity from now on so you are not insulted by my jocularity.

Eeyore

27-03-2009 09:06:06

[quote3d14465df6="tbjstet"]You communicated directly with their upper management and they sent you a check.[/quote3d14465df6]
So basically you called NYC and pitched a fit, so they've now sent you a check and washed their hands of you. Care to share what you really did with the class?

mjforever

27-03-2009 09:20:43

[quotec454e19f47="tbjstet"]Ok for those of you who did not believe i got my money. I emailed mpell and here is there reply


We (Mpell Solutions) did not send you a check. We forwarded your information to Active Response.
Active Response sent you a check for $1,500. You communicated directly with their upper management and they sent you a check.
Any questions and communication regarding any remaining reimbursement should be directed to Active Response at 877-312-7263. They will be able to answer your questions.
Thank you[/quotec454e19f47]


That's interesting!

ghounds07

27-03-2009 09:35:13

[quotec616c1b0d1="RolltheStampede"][quotec616c1b0d1="tbjstet"]Ok for those of you who did not believe i got my money. I emailed mpell and here is there reply


We (Mpell Solutions) did not send you a check. We forwarded your information to Active Response.
Active Response sent you a check for $1,500. You communicated directly with their upper management and they sent you a check.
Any questions and communication regarding any remaining reimbursement should be directed to Active Response at 877-312-7263. They will be able to answer your questions.
Thank you[/quotec616c1b0d1]


SO whats the contact info for the upper management so i can get paid?
LOL J/K

Now on with the stupid comments D[/quotec616c1b0d1]

Pshh...screw contact information, the CEO confirmed me as a friend on facebook so I can just write on his wall...haha

nousername

27-03-2009 09:50:55

[quote5d0569994e="tbjstet"]Ok for those of you who did not believe i got my money. I emailed mpell and here is there reply


We (Mpell Solutions) did not send you a check. We forwarded your information to Active Response.
Active Response sent you a check for $1,500. You communicated directly with their upper management and they sent you a check.
Any questions and communication regarding any remaining reimbursement should be directed to Active Response at 877-312-7263. They will be able to answer your questions.
Thank you[/quote5d0569994e]

tbjstet/cleo45,

I'm trying to figure out why you get a check (and from ARG, too) before (most) everyone else. Here's some questions, if you don't mind answering them.

1. Did you get the letter(s) from MPell end of Jan 09, like the rest of us? For all your gifts? Is there any gift for which you didn't received a letter?
2. Did you send the certificates/receipts ($3000 worth)/ids to MPell? When?
3. Did you contact (via phone, email) MPell and ARG after that? Why? (eg. to ask if MPell received your certs, when you're getting your checks etc)
4. Did you make a report about ARG or MPell anywhere (at BBB, Attorney General etc)?
5. I think you mentioned in your other post that 3 of your gift status has turned to shipped. Are you able to check the status of your other gifts online? Are they still there and what's their status?
6. Did you get a letter about passing fraud prevention (whatever) together with your check? For your receipts, did you buy something and return it? Or did you buy something and keep it? Or did you buy a gift card?

I know that's a lot of questions. Thanks in advance.

bruman

27-03-2009 09:57:57

http//finance.yahoo.com/news/TransTech-Services-Partners-prnews-14758106.html

Transtech and ARG is a no-go.

jtackman

27-03-2009 09:58:45

so what does that mean?

bruman

27-03-2009 10:03:53

[quote74ee869dbf="jtackman"]so what does that mean?[/quote74ee869dbf]

Everything or nothing.

RolltheStampede

27-03-2009 10:19:34

[quote6faa2ad424="bruman"]http//finance.yahoo.com/news/TransTech-Services-Partners-prnews-14758106.html

Transtech and ARG is a no-go.[/quote6faa2ad424]

Transtech to ARG " you owe them how much??.......and they all send in the receipts.... F this im ouuta here!!!"

jtackman

27-03-2009 10:43:52

does anyone think it would affect getting the prizes?

neverendingmoolah

27-03-2009 10:52:19

[quote84d574f9cc="edgespeeder04"]Useful info, they seem to be toying with me.

In terms of my tiffanys and nordstorm gift, over the past few months the status has gone from confirmed to ship back to confirm or not qualified and has yet to be fixed. They claim that when it goes back to not qualified I should have received a letter from mpell which is a false accusation, since the lady I first spoke to told me it was a system error and that the manager had to reinstated it. <--- which didn't work.

Either way I still have to print out the forums yet again for the 3rd time and mail them yet again.

now that is useful info.[/quote84d574f9cc]

Not sure if this will help now, but if and when your status goes back to confirmed, do a print screen and copy your confirmation status onto a MS Paint file. Change the extension to .jpg.url==http://=http:///url That way if it happens again, just upload a copy of the file to brandarama and they will change it automatically. When that happend to me, I just sent them a copy of the .jpgurl==http://=http:///url file I had created and they changed it back immediately. Sad but true, you have to keep as much proof as possible, otherwise these guys may take forever.

nygiantzrock

27-03-2009 11:10:06

[quote1db391a01e="kinneylamb"]you boys wanna jerk around and have all the fun you want, go ahead. you obviously dont have bills to pay or any sense of money. otherwise you'd take this a little more serious and post things that are um real. you guys go way beyond the appropriate level of joking. and way beyond appropriate for that matter, period.[/quote1db391a01e]
Okay grandpa, I see your lacking in the sense of humor department.

slambam

27-03-2009 12:08:47

This is a response I got when asking...

"We are handling reimbursements for Active Response for anyone that sent in a certificate. We expect to start shipping checks early to mid April. All certificates will be paid on one check. The checks will be sent via regular mail, no signature required.
ARG is not sending reimbursement to anyone directly unless they have negotiated a set price. The set price is for people that did not participate in the redemption process.
Thank you!"

ashilef

27-03-2009 12:24:03

[quote0c15a9cf17="slambam"]This is a response I got when asking...

"We are handling reimbursements for Active Response for anyone that sent in a certificate. We expect to start shipping checks early to mid April. All certificates will be paid on one check. The checks will be sent via regular mail, no signature required.
ARG is not sending reimbursement to anyone directly unless they have negotiated a set price. The set price is for [b0c15a9cf17]people that did not participate in the redemption process.[/b0c15a9cf17]Thank you!"[/quote0c15a9cf17]

Sounds like we could have opted out of all this madness after all...

Eeyore

27-03-2009 12:25:58

Slambam, I think I can safely speak for (most of) us in thanking you for posting actual, real factual information, devoid of humor and full of seriousity.

Have a + on me.

Eeyore

27-03-2009 12:28:10

[quoteca9a3341f2="ashilef"]Sounds like we could have opted out of all this madness after all...[/quoteca9a3341f2]
If you called and bitched and generally made yourself a nuisance they were offering some discounted payout, as low as 10 cents on the dollar. Probably about what they are paying Mpell on an aggregate basis per account. Personally, I wanted my entire payout and didn't feel it necessary to be a jackass about it. We'll see if that was a good plan in about two weeks. My certificates were processed on 2/6.

ashilef

27-03-2009 12:45:11

[quote029e7e3ae3="Eeyore"][quote029e7e3ae3="ashilef"]Sounds like we could have opted out of all this madness after all...[/quote029e7e3ae3]
If you called and bitched and generally made yourself a nuisance they were offering some discounted payout, as low as 10 cents on the dollar. Probably about what they are paying Mpell on an aggregate basis per account. Personally, I wanted my entire payout and didn't feel it necessary to be a jackass about it. We'll see if that was a good plan in about two weeks. My certificates were processed on 2/6.[/quote029e7e3ae3]

While I understand they aren't getting the whole amount owed, it's not fair they get paid first when the rest of us followed the rules and played their game (brandarama). If we had known it was that easy to get some money we could of all just bitched and moaned. Whatever, I'll be glad when this is over. roll

tbjstet

27-03-2009 14:38:05

I don't mind answering your questions, i know everyone is in a hurry for there money.

your question # 1 i did get the letter from mpell and mailed everything back at the end of jan. (expect for the $1000 visa, did not get one for that)
2. i sent my receipts to mpell
3. i did not call mpell till march
4. i did file a bb report against mpell when i received my letter in jan. i was very upset as i had waited since oct. 2007 for some of my gifts.
5. not all of my gifts are showing online now, but i dont think it matters as my $500 sears one is not showing, i called brandarama today and they said it was mailed out yesterday woo hooo. i will take pics of the ck this time,lol
6. i did not get a letter about fraud, i did buy things and i keep them. i had just received my tax refund so i used that. i was going to wait till i got my gift money.

i found out from brandarama the reason i did not get a letter for the $1000 visa is because i was on the expedited list back in nov. 08. was told it would be shipped out in the next few wks

Eeyore

27-03-2009 14:51:33

[quote0ad628f21c="tbjstet"]I don't mind answering your questions, [/quote0ad628f21c]
Thank you for clearing it up. I don't understand why you filed a complaint against Mpell though. I think it is a safe bet you're not getting anything from them now that they have turned you back over to ARG.

LucaBella

27-03-2009 19:27:32

[quote1cb7f4e10f="kinneylamb"]what i'm saying is there's an immaturity here. there's a lack of seriosity. maybe some people here need to get burned a few times before they wise up. you've been screwed by a business, even if its a gift, supplemental income. the real winners are the people who reported brandarama and received their checks last year. but since we're all so patient, we're hanging on for the best now. it gets out of control though. keep the focus. and edgespeeder you should be one of the people banging down their office door at this point, or reporting them. why are you sending them forms three times? F the website, the paperwork is what they need. they had proof from you how many months ago? get on that. and grab em by the balls. maybe you'll get a check in a few weeks.[/quote1cb7f4e10f]

This is FreeIpodGuide, it's always been about a bunch of 16 year olds, I mean the site was STARTED by what, a 17-18 year old? ever notice the admin is like 22 and has been here 5 years or so. FIG has always been ridic, and I don't think people are going to change because there's money on the line, and that's a good thing. I like it like this. We all need to laugh about this situation, cause crying will help no one. So take your anger out on Brandarama, not here. And seriously, that whole third grade teacher manipulation "I'm not going to reveal what I know until you're all good with your head down and your mouth shut" was really, sincerely lame.

You have no new info. We'll get our money in 8-10 weeks. Even if they shipped already, we'll soon know it in a few days. Just join the fun and relax. the money will come. eventually.

kwoodyk34k

27-03-2009 19:48:47

[quotecf7c86b3e1="bruman"]http//finance.yahoo.com/news/TransTech-Services-Partners-prnews-14758106.html

Transtech and ARG is a no-go.[/quotecf7c86b3e1]

I know it's all speculation but what could this possibly mean?

kinneylamb

27-03-2009 20:31:29

lol @ the fact you thought it was 3rd grade teacher manipulation. i dont manipulate. i share info. wasn't necessarily new info but would have comforted a lot of people, including myself, which is why i asked mpell and brandarama. whoever wanted to know already PMed me anyway. i share info and this page of the thread has been decent, but a page or two back it was like forget it, it will get lost in between crowded posts about nothing. i'm sincerely lame eh? coming from a man with a white man afro 60s producer who murdered his wife as his avatar. lol.

kinneylamb

27-03-2009 20:34:27

if transtech didn't hookup with another company in the same sentence as terminating their loi with ARG, i would think ARG was more at fault for something. but it sounds like they wanted to date a chick, but a hotter chick came along, and dated her instead.

kwoodyk34k

27-03-2009 20:47:14

[quote1d2dc2e612="kinneylamb"]if transtech didn't hookup with another company in the same sentence as terminating their loi with ARG, i would think ARG was more at fault for something. but it sounds like they wanted to date a chick, but a hotter chick came along, and dated her instead.[/quote1d2dc2e612]

Perfectly put.
But why couldn't he just date both chicks?

Like, I thought this guy went around offering to hook with all the desperate chicks he could.

Eeyore

27-03-2009 21:10:36

If you have ever dated a really hot chick, you know to conserve resources...you'll need them.

Meanwhile, the hens keep a-cluckin'.

ashilef

27-03-2009 21:42:29

[quote031b4b8708="kinneylamb"]lol @ the fact you thought it was 3rd grade teacher manipulation. i dont manipulate. i share info. wasn't necessarily new info but would have comforted a lot of people, including myself, which is why i asked mpell and brandarama. whoever wanted to know already PMed me anyway. i share info and this page of the thread has been decent, but a page or two back it was like forget it, it will get lost in between crowded posts about nothing. i'm sincerely lame eh? coming from a man with a white man afro 60s producer who murdered his wife as his avatar. lol.[/quote031b4b8708]

liclears throatli he is actually a [b031b4b8708]she[/b031b4b8708]...not that I think it would change your opinion, but just saying )

Eeyore

27-03-2009 21:57:28

LMAO! I guess it is hard to see things like http//forum.freeipodguide.com/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minigender_female.gif[" alt=""/img3bac5503cf] when you're raging on...

kinneylamb

27-03-2009 22:24:10

i honestly never noticed that gender until now. on my screen the text is really small and the pink gets overshadowed by the burgandy/red post count below it...

steveyankee

28-03-2009 07:00:28

uh huh, blame your monitor

its the american way to put the blame on other things

just admit it, you're retarded

i hope your monitor leaves you

vijay04964

28-03-2009 10:46:27

Alright I recently completed another brandarama site. When i wen to the claim form they have these new rules, like you have to show proof of membership for 30 days and shit like that. Whats up with that?

bruman

28-03-2009 12:34:31

[quote2ad6f7a40b="vijay04964"]Alright I recently completed another brandarama site. When i wen to the claim form they have these new rules, like you have to show proof of membership for 30 days and shit like that. Whats up with that?[/quote2ad6f7a40b]

New Policy. Check the Gift Rules.

PS600REVX

28-03-2009 15:40:24

[quote003f52a9b0="slambam"]This is a response I got when asking...

"We are handling reimbursements for Active Response for anyone that sent in a certificate. We expect to start shipping checks early to mid April. All certificates will be paid on one check. The checks will be sent via regular mail, no signature required.
ARG is not sending reimbursement to anyone directly unless they have negotiated a set price. The set price is for people that did not participate in the redemption process.
Thank you!"[/quote003f52a9b0]

Nice! This is how it seems to have been going. The people getting paid so far by BR were special circumstances such as lost certs, complaints, etc. The rest of us will be getting paid by MPELL at the stated time. Thanks Slam for an informative and serious post.

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 11:24:23

Okay, my cousin called me from Michigan. She told me that she received a certified letter from ARG on Friday saying that she was being chosen for an audit. She did the gift rebates through mpell and then received the letter. I am trying to get more details from her but she's too mad to talk LOL. They told her she has 10 days to respond via email explaining why she used more than one email address. She is owed around $1800 from the gifts. I do know she's been doing this for several years, it's how I found out about it. They are trying to get out of paying her. Does anyone have a copy of the old terms and regulations for brandarama? Will let you know when I found out more from her.

slambam

29-03-2009 11:38:47

Oh golly. I only used 1 e-mail so I assume I won't get one of these. I assume she used multiple e-mail addresses, or are they really full of shit?

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 11:44:05

She said that each gift she used a different email=. Just to keep things organized. I just spoke to her again after I made the post because I am mad LOL. She hasn't really done too much with brandarama and has kept several of the offers she signed up for. They want her to respond to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com. Just to keep things organized. I just spoke to her again after I made the post because I am mad LOL. She hasn't really done too much with brandarama and has kept several of the offers she signed up for. They want her to respond to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email with an explanation. That if she didn't that they would suspend her accounts and possibly take action to receive old gifts that they have sent to her, which she said is about $2500

ashilef

29-03-2009 12:07:14

Wow, they are really trying to get out of paying people aren't they? They should have had some type of fraud prevention like two years ago. A little late now I think...

Eeyore

29-03-2009 12:46:24

Did she do the same site twice? That's about the only thing I can think of which would trigger that kind of response.

steveyankee

29-03-2009 13:33:09

lol @ them trying to get the money back too

LucaBella

29-03-2009 14:27:28

Lower than fucking low. Like anyone would know a site with different names "trusted rewards" "yourtopbrands" is the same site and to use the same email... oh man.. thats evil.

bruman

29-03-2009 14:37:27

Strange that she is the only one that received one (and no one on the forums have). If they sent all audit letters out on one day and someone on Michigan received one Friday others certainly would have received them as well (especially if they were sent certified). Hopefully this is just a rare exception and, who knows, may have been justified (could have been heavy fraud on the account). There fraud prevention methods were virtually non-existant in the past (you never heard of anyone getting DQ'd), so it's obvious they needed some change in policy.

freeipodplayer

29-03-2009 14:50:41

[quote501637b157="bruman"]Strange that she is the only one that received one (and no one on the forums have). If they sent all audit letters out on one day and someone on Michigan received one Friday others certainly would have received them as well (especially if they were sent certified). Hopefully this is just a rare exception and, who knows, may have been justified (could have been heavy fraud on the account). There fraud prevention methods were virtually non-existant in the past (you never heard of anyone getting DQ'd), so it's obvious they needed some change in policy.[/quote501637b157]

Exactly what I was thinking.

Maybe another "story" in the making until we see proof. real proof.

Well - she may be right. email==audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email went through fine, but audit[b501637b157]S[/b501637b157]@activeresponsegroup.com got sent right back to me as invalid.

I actually did find someone on another forum that did receive a certified letter from ARG yesterday, but cant pick it up until tomorrow.

RyanG

29-03-2009 15:15:19

Michigan also here and didn't receive a letter. I used a diff e-mail for each site but never repeated a site. I'll update if I do get one tho

mjforever

29-03-2009 15:54:51

Michigan here also but did not receive a letter. Hopefully not.

slambam

29-03-2009 16:18:13

[quote67d71b8e63="LucaBella"]Lower than fucking low. Like anyone would know a site with different names "trusted rewards" "yourtopbrands" is the same site and to use the same email... oh man.. thats evil.[/quote67d71b8e63]

Did she use a different email for every individual gift she did, or every site? Example, if she did 2 YourTopBrands sites, did she use same or different e-mails for them? I don't know what difference it would make with them. It would be one thing to get a letter like this before the mpell certs, but after spending the $ and everything, that's just wrong. Hopefully it gets figured out.

Zags1199

29-03-2009 16:46:30

Here is a copy of the old gift rules. Nothing about more than one e-mail or any of that stuff. Since there's no specific gift chosen (it won't let me with an archived version), that's why there are blanks and such

[quote3c2691b73b]Last Updated January 16, 2008

Official Gift Rules for redemption of the

These Official Gift Rules for redemption of the &nbspare part of the YourTopBrands End User License Agreement ("EULA") to which you must agree in order to use our Service, including seeking to qualify under these Gift Rules. Capitalized terms unless otherwise defined shall have the meanings assigned to them in the EULA - End User License Agreement.

To qualify for and redeem your , you must complete each of the following

Registration Form. Complete our Registration Form for the YourTopBrands Service by providing true, accurate, current, and complete information about yourself as prompted by the Registration Form - information that is untrue, inaccurate, or incomplete may disqualify you from eligibility to receive the .
Special Offers & Survey. All Special Offers and Survey Questions are optional. Answer or skip all offers that are presented following the registration form. You must also answer all of the questions (yes or no) as indicated at the "Special Offer Survey" page that also follows the registration form. Expressing interest in response to any special offer or survey question is not required to qualify for the . . In contrast, a Sponsor offer, is an offer that you must complete to qualify for the . . Please see the Sponsor Offer section below for the number of Sponsor Offers that must be completed to qualify for your . The Sponsor Offers appear after you have successfully completed or skipped the special offers and survey section.
Sponsor Offers. You must participate in and satisfy a total of Sponsor Offers as follows

To satisfy the requirements for the , you must participate in the above-stated number of offers for each page (participating in offers in excess of those stated above for a given page does not reduce the number of offers in which you must participate on the other pages), and you must complete each of the Sponsor Offers pages listed above. Please note Sponsor offers may require you to sample and/or purchase products of interest.
In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all of the sponsor offers that require you to sample and purchase products of interest within 180 days of signing up for our service.
Sponsor Offer Registration. In order to satisfy the requirement for participating in the number of Sponsor offers described above, you must meet all qualifications of the Sponsor offers you select. You must complete each offer by clicking to and satisfying the requirements of our sponsor offers only online from the YourTopBrands's sponsor offer pages as listed above (not by telephone). Please note that once you have clicked to and started and/or completed a transaction with a sponsor, you are subject to that sponsor's terms, conditions and rules on cancellation, and such transactions cannot be canceled by or through the Brandarama Service or by failure to complete the requisite number of sponsor offers specified above.
Verification of Sponsor Offer Participation. Each Sponsor must provide written verification (written or electronic) to YourTopBrands that you have successfully qualified for and completed that Sponsor's offer. Following YourTopBrands's receipt of such verification from the last of the requisite number of Sponsors, YourTopBrands will send an email message to you with instructions on how to redeem your offer and ask you to confirm your delivery address where the will be shipped. The qualification time varies by Sponsor, but may be in excess of 30 days. In some cases an additional step by you is required to satisfy the Sponsor's qualifications. By way of example that is not intended to be exhaustive, all-inclusive, or otherwise limiting, a Sponsor offer for, for example, credit card or similar service may require you to use the credit card to make a purchase, take a cash advance, or transfer a balance, to satisfy the Sponsor's qualifications. The time it takes you to complete this step is in your control and not that of the Service or the Sponsor, and the qualification time for such Sponsor offers accordingly will vary based in part on the time you take to satisfy this requirement. Your gift qualification status may be viewed at any time at http//www.yourtopbrands.com/status
We also recommend that you print and keep any pages or correspondence proving that you completed the sponsor offers. This may be helpful in the unlikely event that one of our sponsors fails to notify us in a timely manner that you have completed the required offer(s). You are responsible for reviewing your account and notifying YourTopBrands of any errors. Your gift should ship to you within 6 to 8 weeks after YourTopBrands receives confirmation of your delivery address.
The Service is not affiliated with the manufacturer or provider of the gift nor with any of the third parties appearing in the marketing promotional copy unless otherwise indicated. All gifts and offers are based on a first-come, first-serve basis. Gifts are subject to availability, and quantities may be limited. YourTopBrands reserves the right to substitute a gift of equal or greater value. YourTopBrands reserves the right to cancel any offer at any time for any reason, with or without notice.

Summary of Frequently Asked Questions
Q How can you offer gifts?
A We rebate advertiser dollars to consumers in the form of gifts. Our advertising sponsors cover the cost of the along with the shipping and handling charges.

Q Is there a fee to participate in this program?
A There are no membership fees for joining. To get your gift, you must continue through the survey and complete participation requirements for sampling and purchasing products of interest.[/quote3c2691b73b]

freeipodplayer

29-03-2009 16:54:28

[quote0a6eaf94e7="Zags1199"]Here is a copy of the old gift rules. Nothing about more than one e-mail or any of that stuff. Since there's no specific gift chosen (it won't let me with an archived version), that's why there are blanks and such

[/quote0a6eaf94e7]


Only the new gift rules (2 weeks old) say anything about emails and such....

They are trying to low blow... HARD.

Zags1199

29-03-2009 16:55:52

I know. I'm just providing that for reference to people who used more than one e-mail that they didn't violate any rules at the time.

LucaBella

29-03-2009 17:19:29

[quote65795f8d6e="slambam"][quote65795f8d6e="LucaBella"]Lower than fucking low. Like anyone would know a site with different names "trusted rewards" "yourtopbrands" is the same site and to use the same email... oh man.. thats evil.[/quote65795f8d6e]

Did she use a different email for every individual gift she did, or every site? Example, if she did 2 YourTopBrands sites, did she use same or different e-mails for them? I don't know what difference it would make with them. It would be one thing to get a letter like this before the mpell certs, but after spending the $ and everything, that's just wrong. Hopefully it gets figured out.[/quote65795f8d6e]

but now is not to the time to go through and determine who is eligible, that was BEFORE they made people spend money on this fucking rebate plan. This is sick. they must want to get sued.

LucaBella

29-03-2009 17:20:37

[quote96a7c1813e="Zags1199"]I know. I'm just providing that for reference to people who used more than one e-mail that they didn't violate any rules at the time.[/quote96a7c1813e]

+Karma

it's important to know that it didn't use to be a rule...

ashilef

29-03-2009 17:26:07

Not sure if I imagined this, but didn't some ppl who got checks get something along with it saying they passed the fraud department? Or you know what I might be thinking of a different site...nevermind.

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 17:41:51

thanks for posting the old rules. i am sending a copy to my cousin now. i noticed someone stated that my cousin may have deserved to be D/Q sense they never have done it before. Well, that is NOT the case. She played by the rules that's why she is so upset. She told me that if she had tried to screw them over that she just would have went on here way and not worried about it. The email= address email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com address email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email worked for me. Feel free to send them an email and ask if they are doing this crap. Basically, I think this is there way of trying to weed out more people they owe gifts too. Oh and to the person who said that this is strange that nobody else on this forum got a letter.....well, my dear....this is not the only forum and some people just lurk and NEVER join because there is no need for it. That comment is uncalled for. I have posted here many of times and I am a trustworthy person. I would never post something that is not true. I will get some more details from the letter and type it out. I really thought about not posting any info at all because of the drama. Trust me....I have much more important things to do than sit around and make up crap..it's not my style. I especially really don't have the energy after working as a nurse in the emergency room all weekend so save the sarcasm. This mess shouldn't be a surprise to anyone at all. If they can weed out a few more people after Mpell, don't ya think that they will!?

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 17:46:21

ok, now that i went through the posts again.....NO Bruman, there was NO fraud on her account! Say what you may but it's the truth. And freeipod, no it is not another "story" and oh I am a female with PMS so please it would be in everyones best interest to be nice to me LOL

If ya don't believe me, then fine, so be it. Not gonna be one of the peeps ya'll decide to bash....not gonna happen, save the drama for ya mamma. Seen to many patient's die at work this weekend in the ER to care about making people believe or making me show proof!

LucaBella

29-03-2009 18:22:38

I do hate the way we all try to blame each other when these sites are shady as hell, and all try to get out of paying... When they make you wait a year, who's the good guy? Not Brandarama.

steveyankee

29-03-2009 18:35:54

Yeah, this forum just needs to shut down.

Tiff's information is the most I have got out of this forum in years. People just use this forum to trick others, or just to flame each other.

Does anyone really come here anymore for news?

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 19:06:04

Thanks steveyankee, at least someone got some use out of my posts. I think I will hold further information that I have. When I get a chance I may message you Steve if u r interested in the letter any further, just let me know!

sUrface1080

29-03-2009 19:37:28

Bush is going to land on Mars sooner than we see any money.

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 19:39:23

Ok, just had an ephiphany. The folks that posted earlier about the fraud letters. I think that they did receive a letter. I think they decided to post out of anger because they won't receive their gifts. They were just lurkers before the letter and decided to upset everyone so they posted what they posted. Just a thought.........

dubbin87

29-03-2009 19:46:31

[quote1d4b0711cf="tiffrnwhitney"]Ok, just had an ephiphany. The folks that posted earlier about the fraud letters. I think that they did receive a letter. I think they decided to post out of anger because they won't receive their gifts. They were just lurkers before the letter and decided to upset everyone so they posted what they posted. Just a thought.........[/quote1d4b0711cf]

Thanks for the first post Tiff, Looks like I'll be waiting for the postman to bring me my doom this week. But I gotta say you brought the subject of drama and what not, well this last post isn't helping. lol

Don't fall into the trap, just stay positve.

bruman

29-03-2009 19:47:41

[quote41c67570aa="tiffrnwhitney"]ok, now that i went through the posts again.....NO Bruman, there was NO fraud on her account! Say what you may but it's the truth. And freeipod, no it is not another "story" and oh I am a female with PMS so please it would be in everyones best interest to be nice to me LOL

If ya don't believe me, then fine, so be it. Not gonna be one of the peeps ya'll decide to bash....not gonna happen, save the drama for ya mamma. Seen to many patient's die at work this weekend in the ER to care about making people believe or making me show proof![/quote41c67570aa]

lol, What? You're the one creating drama... I think you looked way to deep into what I was saying to try, or maybe I just worded it wrong. I never said I disbelieved what you said nor was my intention to say your friend was a frauder. I was simply expressing my opinion on the possible causes for someone to receive such a letter from ARG. Obviously they aren't just sending these letters out at random, so I'm trying to understand what the red flag might be on her account.

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 19:50:25

Sorry Bruman, I apologize. I just had my guard up waiting for people to bash me. I am not trying to create drama. Please accept my apology.

bruman

29-03-2009 20:14:26

Perfectly understandable. I think we all just need to relax. This whole situation has put everyone on edge. I think my friend (who does not visit the forum) has the best strategy -- forget about it until the mail comes to him. Personally, and I think the evidence suggests, that it'll all work out, that we'll get our money. At the same time Tiffrnwhitney informing us about ARG auditing is a valid concern but there's no evidence yet implying that we are all going to receive one of these letters (which is why I mentioned that if they did send these all out on one day a low percentage of people are going to/did receive them). So yeah, my 2 cents.. try to stay rational, don't cause unneeded stress, and, if you can, be optimistic.. if it all turns out well and we get a check in the mail in 2-3 weeks all of this pessimism and doom and gloom will be for nothing.

wiebelhaus03

29-03-2009 20:14:27

lol @ the guy who was supposedly getting $53k or whatever he said awhile back

ashilef

29-03-2009 20:16:22

[quote9a13ef644a="tiffrnwhitney"]Sorry Bruman, I apologize. I just had my guard up waiting for people to bash me. I am not trying to create drama. Please accept my apology.[/quote9a13ef644a]

That pms sure is something isn't it? Lol wink

mistertomlinson

29-03-2009 20:25:42

What is this "PMS" you speak of?

tiffrnwhitney

29-03-2009 20:31:55

PMS.... Strange I know.....do you really expect less from a chick with PMS? LOL. I hope the guy that had over $50000 let's us know how it all works out. LOL. That just cracks me up!

freeipodplayer

29-03-2009 20:45:53

[quote513d392530="tiffrnwhitney"]PMS.... Strange I know.....do you really expect less from a chick with PMS? LOL. I hope the guy that had over $50000 let's us know how it all works out. LOL. That just cracks me up![/quote513d392530]

Well if you want to get technical... there were no rules againest it.

wiebelhaus03

29-03-2009 20:49:18

ya but it would be a bitch if you were audited

ashilef

29-03-2009 20:50:53

[quotedff86340a8="mistertomlinson"]What is this "PMS" you speak of?[/quotedff86340a8]

Lol u know damn well what it is.

Tiffrnwhitney, I feel your pain. I'm 32 wks preggo, thats like PMS x10! Lol

freeipodplayer

29-03-2009 20:51:03

[quote05540b224a="wiebelhaus03"]ya but it would be a bitch if you were audited[/quote05540b224a]

As it sits.... i think if anyone took this company to court they would win just because of the bullshit this Judge would find out after our "6-8 week wait" for the gift. 15 month wait - 3 more months for MPell, AND then another audit? and how much longer of a wait?

This may be the worst company in the world.

Eeyore

29-03-2009 20:54:52

[quote1dcf21be87="tiffrnwhitney"]Okay, my cousin called me from Michigan. She told me that she received a certified letter from ARG on Friday saying that she was being chosen for an audit. She did the gift rebates through mpell and then received the letter. I am trying to get more details from her but she's too mad to talk LOL. They told her she has 10 days to respond via email explaining why she used more than one email address.[/quote1dcf21be87]Tiff, please keep us up on what happens (in spite all of the background noise here). It may just be she needs to tell why all the email addresses to the same physical address. If there are more than two or three I could see them legitimately asking for an explanation. If all the other info is OK then there would be no reason to DQ her since there is no reason to suspect fraud.

hum1m9e8r8b

29-03-2009 20:55:46

[quote209c81b6a0="freeipodplayer"][quote209c81b6a0="wiebelhaus03"]ya but it would be a bitch if you were audited[/quote209c81b6a0]

As it sits.... i think if anyone took this company to court they would win just because of the bullshit this Judge would find out after our "6-8 week wait" for the gift. 15 month wait - 3 more months for MPell, AND then another audit? and how much longer of a wait?

This may be the worst company in the world.[/quote209c81b6a0]
I'd still do a brandarama site again, knowing what I know now. Even if it takes 3 years to receive, I paid like $20 for 2x$500, which is still worth it to me.

Eeyore

29-03-2009 20:56:29

[quoteb6d83637c0="ashilef"][quoteb6d83637c0="mistertomlinson"]What is this "PMS" you speak of?[/quoteb6d83637c0]

Lol u know damn well what it is.

Tiffrnwhitney, I feel your pain. I'm 32 wks preggo, thats like PMS x10! Lol[/quoteb6d83637c0]
Remind me to not post within two of you... shock 8)

I love all the People's Court-trained iLawyers on here... roll

Eeyore

29-03-2009 20:57:51

[quote99c0c4bc7e="hum1m9e8r8b"]I'd still do a brandarama site again, knowing what I know now. Even if it takes 3 years to receive, I paid like $20 for 2x$500, which is still worth it to me.[/quote99c0c4bc7e]I found a site with a $125/offer payout that I'm going to attack tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out.

jtackman

29-03-2009 21:45:52

I'm glad i have a good attorney, if anyone wants his number feel free to PM me.

LucaBella

29-03-2009 21:46:42

I just did my 4 offer laptop... 250/offer and of course page one won't credit, despite me doing 2 offers.. brandarama is so freaking rigged and crooked..

dubbin87

29-03-2009 21:51:24

[quote5960c77c0d="hum1m9e8r8b"]


I'd still do a brandarama site again, knowing what I know now. Even if it takes 3 years to receive, I paid like $20 for 2x$500, which is still worth it to me.[/quote5960c77c0d]

Yeah but with the new rules doing a site on the lowbuck is going to be pretty much impossible. ?

heather77

29-03-2009 21:53:54

[quoteb0684fe4e5="ashilef"][quoteb0684fe4e5="mistertomlinson"]What is this "PMS" you speak of?[/quoteb0684fe4e5]

Lol u know damn well what it is.

Tiffrnwhitney, I feel your pain. I'm 32 wks preggo, thats like PMS x10! Lol[/quoteb0684fe4e5]

congrats ashilef!

Eeyore

29-03-2009 22:01:58

[quote6b2287e202="dubbin87"][quote6b2287e202="hum1m9e8r8b"]


I'd still do a brandarama site again, knowing what I know now. Even if it takes 3 years to receive, I paid like $20 for 2x$500, which is still worth it to me.[/quote6b2287e202]

Yeah but with the new rules doing a site on the lowbuck is going to be pretty much impossible. ?[/quote6b2287e202]
If I calculated right I think I can do this for about 10 cents on the dollar.

dubbin87

29-03-2009 22:27:17

[quotefd6d6a922c="Eeyore"][quotefd6d6a922c="dubbin87"][quotefd6d6a922c="hum1m9e8r8b"]


I'd still do a brandarama site again, knowing what I know now. Even if it takes 3 years to receive, I paid like $20 for 2x$500, which is still worth it to me.[/quotefd6d6a922c]

Yeah but with the new rules doing a site on the lowbuck is going to be pretty much impossible. ?[/quotefd6d6a922c]
If I calculated right I think I can do this for about 10 cents on the dollar.[/quotefd6d6a922c]

Becoming a Yogi yourself. D

mistertomlinson

29-03-2009 22:27:50

In response to a previous post, I find it extremely shitty to send the forms to you saying, "Congrats. We'll send your money, but first you gotta go out and spend thousands of dollars"... then tell you you're going to be DQ'd after you've complied. That couldn't possibly float.

ghounds07

29-03-2009 22:29:28

[quoteea012e76d0="tiffrnwhitney"]Thanks steveyankee, at least someone got some use out of my posts. I think I will hold further information that I have. When I get a chance I may message you Steve if u r interested in the letter any further, just let me know![/quoteea012e76d0]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

wiebelhaus03

29-03-2009 22:59:10

ya i've been trying to complete the 4 offer toshiba for a month and half now, 3 offers from the 3rd page have yet to credit and all were completed before the terms changed

dktsung1

29-03-2009 23:11:25

hi

all, give active respond hell

new york att general

http//www.oag.state.ny.us/resource_center/complaints/pdfs/cns001web_consumer.pdf

LucaBella

29-03-2009 23:43:57

Well, let's wait to see if they actually are DQing/Denying people first... but the ATT General is probably going to have their hands full shortly... This is all so beyond the pale.

kinneylamb

29-03-2009 23:45:47

they're not getting out of paying her. the one e-mail rule was not in the terms and conditions before, however they are retroactively enforcing the new rules which is a good thing ). this means scamoholics will get their butts scraped for doing the same gifts/offers with different e-mails. they just want to hear back from the users to determine who passes and who gets tossed. if they wanted to toss you outright, they'd have the right to do so anyhow, they could dq you rather than asking for an explanation within 10 days and pay the postage for certified mail no less. they will be able to tell an honest average user from a scammer. im sure your explanation will suffice. they just want to weed through those who did duplicate offers, etc. and good luck! ) i wish i was there at your house to talk about it over coffee, as well as your ER experiences. very interesting.

dubbin87

30-03-2009 00:14:14

wow

kinneylamb

30-03-2009 00:14:26

[quote5990b220b7="ashilef"]Not sure if I imagined this, but didn't some ppl who got checks get something along with it saying they passed the fraud department? Or you know what I might be thinking of a different site...nevermind.[/quote5990b220b7]
forgot to reply to ya. yes this was the same fraud department. every DIY company has a different way of doing things and preventing fraud, and this is apparently brandarama's. my only criticism of them, is where were their heads this whole time? it's like brad powers got back from a 1 year vacation and decided "i really need to upgrade and make some changes" and is doing things as they go along, feeling their way through it. life is short ARG if you want the bucks you gotta move faster. and this is life, scammers have been frauding you since god how many years ago now? fools. thats an epic fail. their shipping lists have been so long probably because it was such a scam-friendly network. they didn't even ask for w-9's if you made $5000 across separate gifts that were under $600 each.

one final note about the fraud letters being "sent out on one day" -- now i'd hate to be pessimistic, but when has ARG lieverli sent anything out on one day? if they do what they always do, they'll milk that fraud letter list for weeks.

kinneylamb

30-03-2009 00:25:43

[quote4703f2cb4c="hum1m9e8r8b"]
I'd still do a brandarama site again, knowing what I know now. Even if it takes 3 years to receive, I paid like $20 for 2x$500, which is still worth it to me.[/quote4703f2cb4c]
you won't be paying $20 anymore with the new rules in place, gotta keep offers for 30 days to receive the gift. or as one forum admin put it, DIY whores wont be able to fraud the offers and drag down the DIY scene anymore.

kinneylamb

30-03-2009 00:29:53

[quoteaad084a0a3="Eeyore"]
I love all the People's Court-trained iLawyers on here... roll[/quoteaad084a0a3]
i was going to let this comment go, but since you're going to criticize them (who are half your age anyway), then provide them a detailed explanation of how this would play out in court. when you rip them with your eyes rolling, and dont explain why, the emphasis is on boosting yourself apparently, and not the matter at hand. thats not a helpful informative post.

kinneylamb

30-03-2009 00:37:10

[quote5e7622bdeb="LucaBella"]I just did my 4 offer laptop... 250/offer and of course page one won't credit, despite me doing 2 offers.. brandarama is so freaking rigged and crooked..[/quote5e7622bdeb]
is this the link that got taken down? i might as well add, im sure youre aware, but if you parked a site then it has to be done within 90 days.

dubbin87

30-03-2009 02:39:29

wow

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 02:54:24

[quote1323f7f606="tiffrnwhitney"]Okay, my cousin called me from Michigan. She told me that she received a certified letter from ARG on Friday saying that she was being chosen for an audit. She did the gift rebates through mpell and then received the letter. I am trying to get more details from her but she's too mad to talk LOL. They told her she has 10 days to respond via email explaining why she used more than one email address. She is owed around $1800 from the gifts. I do know she's been doing this for several years, it's how I found out about it. They are trying to get out of paying her. Does anyone have a copy of the old terms and regulations for brandarama? Will let you know when I found out more from her.[/quote1323f7f606]

Wow, I hate these people.
Please keep us updated.
When did she send her certs in?
(It might not even matter since it's ARG and not MPell)
But I'm just trying to figure out if they're sending out the letters of doom in order.

And to the person who said that someone else received a certified letter from ARG but couldn't pick it up, which forum was that?

EDIT Nvm, found out which forum.

Anyway, I would suggest your friend file a BBB complaint against MPELL. Yes, MPELL. Because they actually care about their image and might be able to persuade ARG if you agree to take it down.

LucaBella

30-03-2009 03:46:21

[quote701cb149e0="kinneylamb"][quote701cb149e0="LucaBella"]I just did my 4 offer laptop... 250/offer and of course page one won't credit, despite me doing 2 offers.. brandarama is so freaking rigged and crooked..[/quote701cb149e0]
is this the link that got taken down? i might as well add, im sure youre aware, but if you parked a site then it has to be done within 90 days.[/quote701cb149e0]

Kinney why do you keep trying to school people? maybe you don't mean to imply that you know more than others, but damn, that's how it keeps coming across. I emailed brandywine about it. they said I could do it, and stuff. Yeah, I know all about their rules, I've been doing brandarama for a couple of years. And, I can read. which helps.

kinneylamb

30-03-2009 05:53:43

that message wasn't written at you, it was written for the people reading the forum. so some random kid cant be like "omg i parked that site" and carelessly not read / know about the new 90 rule, etc. and then get dq'd. its relevent. generally anything i type is not toward the person unless i address them like when i asked was that link taken down. i noticed a lot of you talk directly to each other in the thread, i dont do that unless i address your name or what you were saying about yourself.

p.s. and even tho 90-day thing was covered, i find you got to repeat things often around here cause god knows someones gonna ask.

Eeyore

30-03-2009 07:31:23

[quoteb7f8413916="kinneylamb"][quoteb7f8413916="Eeyore"]
I love all the People's Court-trained iLawyers on here... roll[/quoteb7f8413916]
i was going to let this comment go, but since you're going to criticize them (who are half your age anyway), then provide them a detailed explanation of how this would play out in court. when you rip them with your eyes rolling, and dont explain why, the emphasis is on boosting yourself apparently, and not the matter at hand. thats not a helpful informative post.[/quoteb7f8413916]
I've read your posts here and elsewhere. Thank you for being one of them.

I posted how this would play out in court about 50 pages back. Nobody, including you, reads common sense when they are all fluffed up in anger.

Eeyore

30-03-2009 07:36:51

[quotecc55554a8c="kwoodyk34k"] Anyway, I would suggest your friend file a BBB complaint against MPELL. Yes, MPELL. Because they actually care about their image and might be able to persuade ARG if you agree to take it down.[/quotecc55554a8c]Before you do that, you might want to look up the definition of racketeering and extortion. Libel laws are enforceable on the Internet.

I agree that what they did is sleazy--if they actually did anything--but right now there is no evidence that anyone is actually being DQd and nobody has posted why the letter was sent. Dragging Mpell into this as some kind of leverage over ARG is a bit premature and ill-advised, don't you think?

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 07:39:12

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

steveyankee

30-03-2009 08:21:11

we need to add a global ignore to eeyore

blah blah blah blah

wiebelhaus03

30-03-2009 08:25:12

why do people not know how to use the edit button?....i don't think i've ever seen a quadruple post before.......

oleus

30-03-2009 09:25:20

until more than one person gets a letter like this i'm not going to freak out, but that is pretty shady/scary sounding.

i wonder if this person had confirmed with MPELL that everything was approved after submission or not, and if this came after approval/confirmation or not. i think most of us here called or emailed Mpell to make sure everything was squared away after sending in our certificates....if this is happening independent of the MPELL process something fishy/crazy going on.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 09:34:45

Got audit letter today. No lies.

oleus

30-03-2009 09:38:29

this is insane

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 09:39:35

No gifts will be shipped. if I think this is an error, I can email= them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email

fucking bullshit.

mariners1999

30-03-2009 09:40:45

[quoted6ef063251="freeipodplayer"]No gifts will be shipped. if I think this is an error, I can email= them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email

fucking bullshit.[/quoted6ef063251]


What reason did they give???? Did you use more than one email address and that is what they are looking for?

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 09:42:27

[quote3a0745403b="mariners1999"][quote3a0745403b="freeipodplayer"]No gifts will be shipped. if I think this is an error, I can email= them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email

fucking bullshit.[/quote3a0745403b]


What reason did they give???? Did you use more than one email address and that is what they are looking for?[/quote3a0745403b]

More than one email. They told us we fucking could.

oleus

30-03-2009 09:43:02

had you already confirmed with Mpell that your certificates had been approved?

when was using two email addresses against the rules?

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 09:43:32

[quotece442de1c9="oleus"]had you already confirmed with Mpell that your certificates had been approved?[/quotece442de1c9]

Yep. like a month ago. I sent them in a week after Mpell mailed the letters.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 09:44:35

[quoteae76fe3445="oleus"]had you already confirmed with Mpell that your certificates had been approved?

when was using two email addresses against the rules?[/quoteae76fe3445]

Never was.

oleus

30-03-2009 09:51:06

this has to be illegal. it's one thing to attempt to DQ people but after they told us to comply with the gift disbursement by BUYING ITEMS UP FRONT and then getting reimbursed?!?!?!?

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 09:52:58

[quotef800823c7e="oleus"]this has to be illegal. it's one thing to attempt to DQ people but after they told us to comply with the gift disbursement by BUYING ITEMS UP FRONT and then getting reimbursed?!?!?!?[/quotef800823c7e]

This isn't an attempt. This IS you are DQ'd. If you have an excuse, email us.

manOFice

30-03-2009 09:57:13

damn, I used a different email for each brand of sites ex Brandaram - one email, Rewardsparade - one email

I hope I don't get a audit letter, im owed a small amount from mpell

mariners1999

30-03-2009 09:57:22

[quote8deea1621c="oleus"]this has to be illegal. it's one thing to attempt to DQ people but after they told us to comply with the gift disbursement by BUYING ITEMS UP FRONT and then getting reimbursed?!?!?!?[/quote8deea1621c]

Somehow I have a feeling that Mpell will be VERY sorry they got into bed with Brandarama..... If people decide to sue they will name both brandarama and mpell in the lawsuit. I know Mpell says that you hold them harmless but that does not stand up well in court and they will have a duty to defend which will cost them big bucks.

Just so sad that this is how Brandarama decided to play the game. Why not disqualify the people first before they waited 12+ months and then jumped through the mpell hoops.

I only used one email address on all of the sites I did with them and am owed a TON less then others here but when I see things like this I think they are looking for a reason to DQ as many people as possible.

evil evil evil x evil evil evil

mjforever

30-03-2009 10:09:26

too bad i used different email addresses to each site.

listified

30-03-2009 10:20:47

nobody at mpell knows anything about this, I just got off the phone with a supervisor

oleus

30-03-2009 10:23:14

doom and gloom has arrived and it's real.

oleus

30-03-2009 10:24:38

it's the fact we were told to go buy gifts to be reimbursed for BEFORE they started DQ'ing people. this is definitely grounds for a fight.

listified

30-03-2009 10:33:10

sure is and I already let them know it

bruman

30-03-2009 10:42:29

[quote271f9e44eb="freeipodplayer"]Got audit letter today. No lies.[/quote271f9e44eb]

Did the letter come certified/needed to be signed? And what state are you in?

peanut123

30-03-2009 10:42:47

Does it make sense to file complaints and BBB reports against Mpell? If they were HIRED by ARG?

Isn't that similar to filing a complaint about UPS because Amazon.com gave you crappy products?

desertwilite

30-03-2009 10:44:32

I don't see where Mpell did anything wrong. At least not yet.

peanut123

30-03-2009 10:48:08

nobody at mpell knows anything about this, I just got off the phone with a supervisor

Which supervisor did you speak to?

RyanG

30-03-2009 10:49:10

[quote266d0b7c78="listified"]nobody at mpell knows anything about this, I just got off the phone with a supervisor[/quote266d0b7c78]

did they say they will get back to you or anything?

mariners1999

30-03-2009 10:50:33

[quotea2a6bc928e="desertwilite"]I don't see where Mpell did anything wrong. At least not yet.[/quotea2a6bc928e]

o

Really..... you don't see ANY fault with Mpell???? Come on.....

They sent the letters.... They said we would get checks if we jumped through the hoops.... Checks would go out in 8-10 weeks....

Now people are getting DQ for having 2,3,4, etc email addresses even though they jumped through both branarama and mpell's hoops.... That in my book makes them a defendant in the lawsuit as well as brandarama.

they can't just throw their hands up in the air and say "my bad we did not know about this"...... It is THEIR JOB to know who they are partnering up with.

tiffrnwhitney

30-03-2009 10:51:44

This is crazy shit! I got one for me today! Now I don't have to read my cousin's. I am so mad, I have sent a reply email and I will decide what else to do after my blood pressure comes back down from a dangerous level. twisted (At least I don't have to prove myself anymore, j/k lol)
WTF? Send us out to spend money for a gift that we won't receive?

Hey, Freeipod, did you call or send an email to Mpell yet? I will do that in a couple of hours. I am just so mad right now!


Oh, Bruman, I am in NC and in came certified.

bruman

30-03-2009 10:54:15

Can you guys compare dates on your letters and see if all of these were sent out on the same day?
And please post your location as well if you received a letter.

mariners1999

30-03-2009 10:55:33

[quote3abfa34249="tiffrnwhitney"]This is crazy shit! I got one for me today! Now I don't have to read my cousin's. I am so mad, I have sent a reply email and I will decide what else to do after my blood pressure comes back down from a dangerous level. twisted (At least I don't have to prove myself anymore, j/k lol)
WTF? Send us out to spend money for a gift that we won't receive?

Hey, Freeipod, did you call or send an email to Mpell yet? I will do that in a couple of hours. I am just so mad right now!


Oh, Bruman, I am in NC and in came certified.[/quote3abfa34249]


Tiff,

Were you DQ'd for more than one email address or did they think up something new as well?

Just want to know if they are only targeting people that used more than one email address.

Thanks

tiffrnwhitney

30-03-2009 10:58:19

It was for more than one email address. I am so pissed right now. Trying to figure out what my next move is. I am going to email Mpell. Research Attorney General stuff and BBB with Mpell.

In my opinion, they ARE part of this mess. They, in MY opinion committed fraud by sending me a certificate telling me that I was approved and what to do to collect my money.

listified

30-03-2009 11:00:01

To Me

Re Suspension of Gift Programs

Dear Me,

In order to provide exceptional service to our customers, we periodically audit compliance with the terms and conditions of the various gift programs we administer. Please be advised that we have conducted an audit of your participation with Brandarama, YourTopBrands, or other of our Gift Programs. ("Programs"). The results of such audit suggest that your actions may have violated the terms of the Programs and constitute an attempt to defraud or otherwise mislead us so that you may receive, or have received, monetary compensation or gifts to which you would not otherwise be entitled to under the terms of the Programs.

Our investigation had revealed that the terms of the Program have been violated, in that you completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts. Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s).

If you beleive that the result of our audit is in error, please provide a written response to email==audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email within 10 days of the date of this notice explaining in detail why you beleive that the results summarized above are inaccurate, so that we can make a final determination as to whether the terms of the Programs have, in fact, been violated. Please note that your participation in the Programs, to include all accounts referenced in the attached account summary, has been temporarily suspended.

Please be advised that if you fail to respond within the time period set forth above, all of your accounts in all Programs shall be terminated, not subject to reinstatement under any circumstances, and that you are not eligible for any future rewards that you may otherwise be entitled to under the Programs. In addition, your violation MAY result in the forfeiture of any monetary compensation or gifts you may have already received. In such event, we reserve the right to take such necessary legal action againest you in order to reclaim any compensation and/or gifts you obtained in violation of the Programs.

Sincerly,

Active Response Group, Inc
Legal Department

listified

30-03-2009 11:02:04

Postmarked Mar 27th, received in NH

certified, and signature required.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 11:02:12

This really sucks for all the people who are getting DQ'd but hopefully it is for only different e-mail addresses that they are DQing for and not something else they dream up. Wow, no way they can get away with someone having to buy a gift in order to get reimbursed and then DQing after that!!!

bruman

30-03-2009 11:04:08

[quote03b693beeb] in that you completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts.[/quote03b693beeb]

Did you guys do the same site (for example, the 4 offer $1,000 VISA), multiple times with multiple e-mails? Or the same trial offer multiple times under different e-mails?
That's what it seems to implying, not about multiple e-mails on different sites...

listified

30-03-2009 11:04:50

[quotee9fdafdadd="bruman"][quotee9fdafdadd] in that you completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts.[/quotee9fdafdadd]

Did you guys do the same site (for example, the 4 offer $1,000 VISA), multiple times with multiple e-mails? Or the same trial offer multiple times under different e-mails?
That's what it seems to implying, not about multiple e-mails on different sites...[/quotee9fdafdadd]

Never did the same site. Always different emails.

bruman

30-03-2009 11:05:44

[quote5aad49e255="listified"][quote5aad49e255="bruman"][quote5aad49e255] in that you completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts.[/quote5aad49e255]

Did you guys do the same site (for example, the 4 offer $1,000 VISA), multiple times with multiple e-mails? Or the same trial offer multiple times under different e-mails?
That's what it seems to implying, not about multiple e-mails on different sites...[/quote5aad49e255]

Never did the same site. Always different emails.[/quote5aad49e255]

Did you repeat offers?

Like I remember hearing some people say they did the Clever Clasp offer multiple times because it was a one-time purchase kind of thing.

bruman

30-03-2009 11:10:38

[quoteeae85cb33a]Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s). [/quoteeae85cb33a]

Also what was on that?

neverendingmoolah

30-03-2009 11:13:38

Hmmmm
I seem to recall the rule being that you could complete an offer/site every 6 months. Besides, YTB had a policy where different family members (in the same household) could complete the same site, but with different emails. They sent me an email to confim this sometime ago. I am trying to find it in my archives. If I find, it I will post it for all. I will also be happy to send it along with full headers to anyone who needs it.

listified

30-03-2009 11:15:09

[quotebf9d599fac="bruman"][quotebf9d599fac]Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s). [/quotebf9d599fac]

Also what was on that?[/quotebf9d599fac]

every offer, every gift, dates, times, IP addresses.

listified

30-03-2009 11:16:10

[quote8eac661c22="neverendingmoolah"]Hmmmm
I seem to recall the rule being that you could complete an offer/site every 6 months. Besides, YTB had a policy where different family members (in the same household) could complete the same site, but with different emails. They sent me an email to confim this sometime ago. I am trying to find it in my archives. If I find, it I will post it for all. I will also be happy to send it along with full headers to anyone who needs it.[/quote8eac661c22]

Please find that... I am searching through all my stuff as we speak. I have terms, rules, EVERYTHING. I violated NO rules at all.

6 month thing was with Ideal.

bruman

30-03-2009 11:18:45

[quotef98df5b7eb="listified"][quotef98df5b7eb="bruman"][quotef98df5b7eb]Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s). [/quotef98df5b7eb]

Also what was on that?[/quotef98df5b7eb]

every offer, every gift, dates, times, IP addresses.[/quotef98df5b7eb]

but not e-mail?

then what makes everyone think this is about multiple e-mail violations?

listified

30-03-2009 11:20:29

[quote3deb1544ef="bruman"][quote3deb1544ef="listified"][quote3deb1544ef="bruman"][quote3deb1544ef]Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s). [/quote3deb1544ef]

Also what was on that?[/quote3deb1544ef]

every offer, every gift, dates, times, IP addresses.[/quote3deb1544ef]

but not e-mail?

then what makes everyone think this is about multiple e-mail violations?[/quote3deb1544ef]

emails as well. first name, last name, addy, zip, state, city, dob, phone, status, date offer credited, prize, prize status, offer.

Literally a spreadsheet of info.

Stkfree1

30-03-2009 11:29:12

Lawsuit Time )

manOFice

30-03-2009 11:34:21

[quote1697b6ae9f="Stkfree1"]Lawsuit Time )[/quote1697b6ae9f]

not really if the person did repeat offers...but we can't see their spreadsheet, but if there was no repeats then I would be pissed

Edit I live in North Carolina and I did NOT receive a certified letter from brandarama.

Stkfree1

30-03-2009 11:38:54

Oh, I meant if I get a letter in my mailbox today

steveyankee

30-03-2009 11:39:07

cool man of ice, thanks for keeping us updated

i was wondering if you got a letter or not!

phew, i can sleep well now

peanut123

30-03-2009 11:39:12

Again, Mpell was HIRED by ARG. Mpell did EVERYTHING they were suppose to do according to ARG's instructions, as THEIR boss.

Mpell can't tell ARG what to do, it's all ARG telling Mpell what to do.

And yes, they did NOT know anything about this, they had NO idea ARG was months and years behind in sending out their gifts to these customers.

fesicnet

30-03-2009 11:43:14

[quote194f136d85="oleus"]it's the fact we were told to go buy gifts to be reimbursed for BEFORE they started DQ'ing people. this is definitely grounds for a fight.[/quote194f136d85]

I am in law school, not a lawyer, but it is called detrimental reliance. This is grounds for the courts to use the legal doctrine of equitable estoppel.

Roughly translated because you relied on the contract to your detriment, they are stopped from claiming a violation of that nature. This should be an easy case.

fesicnet

30-03-2009 11:45:01

[quote94e6143d72="peanut123"]Again, Mpell was HIRED by ARG. Mpell did EVERYTHING they were suppose to do according to ARG's instructions, as THEIR boss.

Mpell can't tell ARG what to do, it's all ARG telling Mpell what to do.

And yes, they did NOT know anything about this, they had NO idea ARG was months and years behind in sending out their gifts to these customers.[/quote94e6143d72]

AND YES YOU CAN SUE MPELL as a codefendant, they had a responsibility to do due diligence BEFORE entering into the contract. They could be found liable.

On a side note was there anything in there ORIGINAL contract that prohibited repeating the same offer? If not, then you did not violate the contract. Repeating an offer like cleaver clasp more then likely would not be view by the courts as a violation, as long as you did not return the item after each purchase.

Once again none of this truly matters, they should have investigated each person BEFORE sending out the offers. I as well as many others would have never bough these items had we known there was a chance of disqualification. This is detrimental reliance.

Is anyone on here dispensing legal advise a lawyer or even in law school?

manOFice

30-03-2009 11:47:52

[quote462a56dc4c="steveyankee"]cool man of ice, thanks for keeping us updated

i was wondering if you got a letter or not!

phew, i can sleep well now[/quote462a56dc4c]

sarcasm? piss off.

oleus

30-03-2009 11:49:18

if i get a dq letter i'm definitley fighting it.

might be a while before we figure out if these all went out at once or if they're still actively doing it....i haven't received anything here in georgia, yet. i never repeated offers but it sounds like listified didn't either.

listified

30-03-2009 11:49:27

[quote79f5e3c485="fesicnet"][quote79f5e3c485="oleus"]it's the fact we were told to go buy gifts to be reimbursed for BEFORE they started DQ'ing people. this is definitely grounds for a fight.[/quote79f5e3c485]

I am in law school, not a lawyer, but it is called detrimental reliance. This is grounds for the courts to use the legal doctrine of equitable estoppel.

Roughly translated because you relied on the contract to your detriment, they are stopped from claiming a violation of that nature. This should be an easy case.[/quote79f5e3c485]

Loves it. Going to email my old law class professor who just happens to be a contract lawyer.

PS, you signed up in 2006 and just made your first 2 posts today. i love you!

bruman

30-03-2009 11:51:02

[quote13b6bdf871="manOFice"][quote13b6bdf871="steveyankee"]cool man of ice, thanks for keeping us updated

i was wondering if you got a letter or not!

phew, i can sleep well now[/quote13b6bdf871]

sarcasm? piss off.[/quote13b6bdf871]

It may be important because tiffrnwhitney and manOFice both live in Charlotte, NC. tiffrnwhitney received one today, manOFice did not. Though listified said his letter was shipped out on Friday which means people that are getting them may not of received it yet.

fesicnet

30-03-2009 11:54:54

Later on tonight or in the next few days I will post more information of my understanding of legal situation as a new post. ANYONE on here that says you cannot sue is an idiot and should not be listened too. You can sue anyone for anything, that is your constitutional right as an American citizen. You may not win, but you can sue.

Please note I am not a lawyer, and it is illegal for me to dispense legal advise. I will merely be posting my prospective as it pertains to me and the actions I plan on pursuing.

-Chris

listified

30-03-2009 11:55:54

[quote97e1bb7143="fesicnet"]Later on tonight or in the next few days I will post more information of my understanding of legal situation as a new post. ANYONE on here that says you cannot sue is an idiot and should not be listened too. You can sue anyone for anything, that is your constitutional right as an American citizen. You may not win, but you can sue.

[b97e1bb7143]Please note I am not a lawyer, and it is illegal for me to dispense legal advise. I will merely be posting my prospective as it pertains to me and the actions I plan on pursuing. [/b97e1bb7143]

-Chris[/quote97e1bb7143]

even covers his ass like a real lawyer.

oleus

30-03-2009 11:58:20

if Mpell says they know nothing about this - how could it be that they are the ones sending the checks? if YTB is all of the sudden DQ'ing people it sounds like they are the ones doing it.


this was a point of debate here that never seemed to get resolved and this new DQ letter mess seems to point back in YTB's direction for actual guft fulfillment.

climed

30-03-2009 12:00:23

[quote06aa52bfef="freeipodplayer"]No gifts will be shipped. if I think this is an error, I can email= them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com them at email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email

fucking bullshit.[/quote06aa52bfef]

Congrats.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 12:05:08

I know for a fact that they said that you can have multiple people from the same house sign up and complete offers as long as they weren't the same offers. I asked them myself.

I was gonna talk my mom into it but she said she didn't trust them at all.

Always listen to your momma.

oleus

30-03-2009 12:06:05

i almost want to call Kim and ask her about this to check my account status but for some reason i don't even feel like dealing with them on this until i see a letter.

bruman

30-03-2009 12:07:21

Nobodys status changed to "Audited" or anything like that who received the letters did they?

nousername

30-03-2009 12:13:04

[quotefeb5aad0b4="listified"]To Me

Our investigation had revealed that the terms of the Program have been violated, in that you completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts. Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s).

[/quotefeb5aad0b4]

This 2nd paragraph from the ARG audit letter mentioned the violation to be "completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts". So, does this mean that those who signed up with different email addresses but didn't repeat offers didn't violate the old terms of the Brandarama program?

mariners1999

30-03-2009 12:24:32

[quotea77de2868f="nousername"][quotea77de2868f="listified"]To Me

Our investigation had revealed that the terms of the Program have been violated, in that you completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts. Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s).

[/quotea77de2868f]

This 2nd paragraph from the ARG audit letter mentioned the violation to be "completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts". So, does this mean that those who signed up with different email addresses but didn't repeat offers didn't violate the old terms of the Brandarama program?[/quotea77de2868f]


I don't think any of us know. It looks like they are trying to find ways to DQ anyone they can.

If you used different email addresses = DQ
If you repeated any offer at all = DQ
If you did an offer when you were under 18 (ID check with mpell) = DQ


Someone who got DQ'd should call Kim or whoever answers the phone and also call Mpell and see what the hell is up. x

jtackman

30-03-2009 12:24:47

Time to sue. I'll be driving to NYC this week to file with my attorney..

Stkfree1

30-03-2009 12:27:52

[quote7a122da010="jtackman"]I repeated a few offers that I must have forgot about. Oh well, that wasn't in their terms and conditions at the time anyway.

Time to sue. I'll be driving to NYC this week to file with my attorney..[/quote7a122da010]

Don't need to do it NYC. May be able to do it in your home state. They likely have Personal Jurisdiction in your home state.


liNOT LEGAL ADVICE, NOT A LAWYERli

jtackman

30-03-2009 12:29:50

I bet some of the dicks in this forum that claimed they were going to "complain" to mpell and brand had something to do with this. hmm.

mariners1999

30-03-2009 12:33:02

[quotee6fcbe5d1b="jtackman"]I bet some of the dicks in this forum that claimed they were going to "complain" to mpell and brand had something to do with this. hmm.[/quotee6fcbe5d1b]

So jtackman you got a letter too???

fanofpurple

30-03-2009 12:34:34

[quote2127154ae8="tiffrnwhitney"]It was for more than one email address. I am so pissed right now. Trying to figure out what my next move is. I am going to email Mpell. Research Attorney General stuff and BBB with Mpell.

In my opinion, they ARE part of this mess. They, in MY opinion committed fraud by sending me a certificate telling me that I was approved and what to do to collect my money.[/quote2127154ae8]


You are right, and what is so crazy - each and every letter that we got from MPell says "Thank you for participating in trusted rewards..... YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY MET THE ELIGIBILITY AND PRIZE REQUIREMENTS!!!
So on January 21st - we all met the requirements, now - things have changed.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 12:38:45

[quote8a39970879="Stkfree1"][quote8a39970879="jtackman"]I repeated a few offers that I must have forgot about. Oh well, that wasn't in their terms and conditions at the time anyway.

Time to sue. I'll be driving to NYC this week to file with my attorney..[/quote8a39970879]

Don't need to do it NYC. May be able to do it in your home state. They likely have Personal Jurisdiction in your home state.


liNOT LEGAL ADVICE, NOT A LAWYERli[/quote8a39970879]

You can file in your home state or where they do business in (NY and CO i think)

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 12:50:12

Anyone have the terms or FAQ from a year back?

That mentions anything about 1 gift per household or ANYTHING???

I have the EULA, Privacy Policy, About Us, and Gift Rules.... but think I am missing one more.

oleus

30-03-2009 12:53:47

[quote16560c1f1f="fanofpurple"][quote16560c1f1f="tiffrnwhitney"]It was for more than one email address. I am so pissed right now. Trying to figure out what my next move is. I am going to email Mpell. Research Attorney General stuff and BBB with Mpell.

In my opinion, they ARE part of this mess. They, in MY opinion committed fraud by sending me a certificate telling me that I was approved and what to do to collect my money.[/quote16560c1f1f]


You are right, and what is so crazy - each and every letter that we got from MPell says "Thank you for participating in trusted rewards..... YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY MET THE ELIGIBILITY AND PRIZE REQUIREMENTS!!!
So on January 21st - we all met the requirements, now - things have changed.[/quote16560c1f1f]

which is why i would suggest dealing directly with MPELL on this to whoever gets a DQ letter. right now Brandarama is pulling some nasty tricks out and Mpell's wording in the certificates they sent out seems like we had passed all requirements and the next step was on us to buy gifts. the fact that the rules changed after this fact could have legal ramifications in our favor, is my hunch.

doylnea

30-03-2009 12:54:27

[quote4ffe5e892a="fesicnet"][quote4ffe5e892a="oleus"]it's the fact we were told to go buy gifts to be reimbursed for BEFORE they started DQ'ing people. this is definitely grounds for a fight.[/quote4ffe5e892a]

I am in law school, not a lawyer, but it is called detrimental reliance. This is grounds for the courts to use the legal doctrine of equitable estoppel.

Roughly translated because you relied on the contract to your detriment, they are stopped from claiming a violation of that nature. This should be an easy case.[/quote4ffe5e892a]

if you were a lawyer, you'd know you shouldn't be dispensing legal advice...

fanofpurple

30-03-2009 12:57:09

[quote37e0c439f4="oleus"][quote37e0c439f4="fanofpurple"][quote37e0c439f4="tiffrnwhitney"]It was for more than one email address. I am so pissed right now. Trying to figure out what my next move is. I am going to email Mpell. Research Attorney General stuff and BBB with Mpell.

In my opinion, they ARE part of this mess. They, in MY opinion committed fraud by sending me a certificate telling me that I was approved and what to do to collect my money.[/quote37e0c439f4]


You are right, and what is so crazy - each and every letter that we got from MPell says "Thank you for participating in trusted rewards..... YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY MET THE ELIGIBILITY AND PRIZE REQUIREMENTS!!!
So on January 21st - we all met the requirements, now - things have changed.[/quote37e0c439f4]

which is why i would suggest dealing directly with MPELL on this to whoever gets a DQ letter. right now Brandarama is pulling some nasty tricks out and Mpell's wording in the certificates they sent out seems like we had passed all requirements and the next step was on us to buy gifts. the fact that the rules changed after this fact could have legal ramifications in our favor, is my hunch.[/quote37e0c439f4]

True - but they came on Mpell letterhead(the envelope anyways), but was signed "The Trusted Rewards Customer Care Team". Mpell used to offer phone support - now they don't answer ( . Haven't got one yet - but I will fight it when I do.

mariners1999

30-03-2009 12:57:56



if you were a lawyer, you'd know you shouldn't be dispensing legal advice...


Relax Doylnea...... People just need a place to vent for the next 24-48 hours.... Just another problem with brandarama and we all thought this was almost all over. I am sure no one will take his advise anyway all he is doing is giving his opinion.
cry

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 13:01:05

[quote7a23a8c4f7="doylnea"][quote7a23a8c4f7="fesicnet"][quote7a23a8c4f7="oleus"]it's the fact we were told to go buy gifts to be reimbursed for BEFORE they started DQ'ing people. this is definitely grounds for a fight.[/quote7a23a8c4f7]

I am in law school, not a lawyer, but it is called detrimental reliance. This is grounds for the courts to use the legal doctrine of equitable estoppel.

Roughly translated because you relied on the contract to your detriment, they are stopped from claiming a violation of that nature. This should be an easy case.[/quote7a23a8c4f7]

if you were a lawyer, you'd know you shouldn't be dispensing legal advice...[/quote7a23a8c4f7]

If you read the rest of the thread... he did state that....

fanofpurple

30-03-2009 13:02:55

I appreciate any and all advice. They are really trying to screw us over here, so whatever we can do to give it right back to them is good. If enough of us file with the AG and the BBB, maybe we'll get somewhere.

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 13:10:22

didnt back in the day they sent out 1099's for offers confirmed to be shipped too?

i agree with everybody, if you get one of these letters we all need to ban together and fight this. ew cant fight this one on one. it needs to be a group thing. this is wrong!

it be one thing to do it before mpell letters were sent out but after is wrong. i know i spent money on stuff i wouldnt have because of the receipt bullshit!

listified

30-03-2009 13:15:16

[quote58e3995058="doylnea"][quote58e3995058="fesicnet"][quote58e3995058="oleus"]it's the fact we were told to go buy gifts to be reimbursed for BEFORE they started DQ'ing people. this is definitely grounds for a fight.[/quote58e3995058]

I am in law school, not a lawyer, but it is called detrimental reliance. This is grounds for the courts to use the legal doctrine of equitable estoppel.

Roughly translated because you relied on the contract to your detriment, they are stopped from claiming a violation of that nature. This should be an easy case.[/quote58e3995058]

if you were a lawyer, you'd know you shouldn't be dispensing legal advice...[/quote58e3995058]

Shut the fuck up you dumb ass mother fucker. He said HE WAS NOT A LAWYER, JUST IN LAW SCHOOL. What? Is ARG paying you for all your tips? Get a fucking life.

One more thing, Ban me again you dumb fuck

doylnea

30-03-2009 13:18:13

Well now that's interesting. I didn't realize that you were also FreeIpodPlayer. Thanks for making that clear to me as well.

doylnea

30-03-2009 13:18:43

FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 13:20:59

[quotee6633d27d0="doylnea"]Well now that's interesting. I didn't realize that you were also FreeIpodPlayer. Thanks for making that clear to me as well.[/quotee6633d27d0]

Wrong again. but doesn't mean I don't know him.

steveyankee

30-03-2009 13:27:59

lol yeah, freeipodplayer and list arent the same person

ohhh lordy, i love fipg drama

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 13:33:49

Well I shouldn't have any problems, as I've only done one site and I only used one email address.

Yay for being legitimate.

I can't say that I'm too apologetic to the people who did 4+ sites. If you committed offer fraud, you shouldn't deserve a gift in the first place.

If you just used two different email addresses, then that's a different story, and hopefully you get what's owed to you.

bruman

30-03-2009 13:42:41

freeipodplayer said he got 24k from brandarama in one year, so that audit may have been justified (although checking accounts for fraud after asking them to buy tons of stuff is real low).

jtackman

30-03-2009 13:46:55

Its not just low, its also illegal.

Good for you SkatingCrippled!

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 13:47:21

[quote876b8a15d2="bruman"]freeipodplayer said he got 24k from brandarama in one year, so that audit may have been justified (although checking accounts for fraud after asking them to buy tons of stuff is real low).[/quote876b8a15d2]

Kumbaya My Lord, Kumbaya, you believe everything you read on the internet?

doylnea

30-03-2009 13:50:47

[quoteb97f0e8c1b="freeipodplayer"][quoteb97f0e8c1b="doylnea"]Well now that's interesting. I didn't realize that you were also FreeIpodPlayer. Thanks for making that clear to me as well.[/quoteb97f0e8c1b]

Wrong again. but doesn't mean I don't know him.[/quoteb97f0e8c1b]

And have posted from his house...

doylnea

30-03-2009 13:51:54

[quote63dccf5cc6="jtackman"]Its not just low, its also illegal.

Good for you SkatingCrippled![/quote63dccf5cc6]

In what way is it illegal - what statute or law is being violated? It certainly seems like a bad faith decision, but it's a giant leap to say it's illegal.

Zags1199

30-03-2009 13:54:23

I just spoke with Kim.

She said that if you completed the offers before March 20th that you should just e-mail them, tell them you were under the old Gift Rules, and that the one e-mail address shouldn't apply to you. She said she didn't even know about the audit thing until someone called and asked her this morning.

This is also Kim's last day with Brandarama, and she said either Sherry or Morgan (?) will be handling things from now on.

As for my personal situation, I still don't know what's going on, and basically, she told me that there isn't anyone I can speak to regarding my check that I'm supposed to get from Brandarama. She sounded annoyed at the whole situation, and the communication in that company is beyond incomprehensible.

Eeyore

30-03-2009 13:58:07

[quotec2f6369447="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quotec2f6369447]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, which have never been allowed.

But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.

manOFice

30-03-2009 13:59:28

[quotef0175b4fa5="Zags1199"]I just spoke with Kim.

She said that if you completed the offers before March 20th that you should just e-mail them, tell them you were under the old Gift Rules, and that the one e-mail address shouldn't apply to you. She said she didn't even know about the audit thing until someone called and asked her this morning.

This is also Kim's last day with Brandarama, and she said either Sherry or Morgan (?) will be handling things from now on.

As for my personal situation, I still don't know what's going on, and basically, she told me that there isn't anyone I can speak to regarding my check that I'm supposed to get from Brandarama. She sounded annoyed at the whole situation, and the communication in that company is beyond incomprehensible.[/quotef0175b4fa5]

Seems like that is good news for email DQ's but not for offer fraud DQ's that one person received

Also sounds like Kim was smart and got out while she could.

ILoveToys

30-03-2009 14:01:25

In MI and received no letter. I did all the sites I did without repeating offers and I always used the same email with Brandarama as well, so I would expect that I'm good to go )

Zags1199

30-03-2009 14:04:17

Yeah, her e-mails to me and her tone when I just talked with her spoke volumes about her feelings toward Brandarama and ARG. She knew things weren't fair and recognized the poor communication, and she wasn't afraid to tell people that. She handled it the best she could, in my opinion, and has been, by far, the most helpful person at the place. I hope she has another job lined up.

bruman

30-03-2009 14:07:42

[quote0f2ae344e7="freeipodplayer"][quote0f2ae344e7="bruman"]freeipodplayer said he got 24k from brandarama in one year, so that audit may have been justified (although checking accounts for fraud after asking them to buy tons of stuff is real low).[/quote0f2ae344e7]

Kumbaya My Lord, Kumbaya, you believe everything you read on the internet?[/quote0f2ae344e7]

Why wouldn't I believe what you posted? You said you received 24k in relation to a post regarding 1099's and you said you had "well over 10k" in mpell certificates. It's obvious you took full advantage of ARGs offerings, and I really doubt one can earn that much without any offer fraud in the mix.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:07:52

[quote69475d946e="Eeyore"][quote69475d946e="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quote69475d946e]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [b69475d946e]which have never been allowed.
[/b69475d946e]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quote69475d946e]

Wheres the proof?

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 14:08:25

even if someone signed up for the same offer over and over and over with a different email everytime they shouldnt be DQ'd for every gift. they should get the first gift and the rest DQ'd. over the course of a few years i used 2 emails. the only reason was becasue i got so much spam i had to switch i couldnt spot the offer confirmation emails.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:08:47

[quote339d941585="bruman"][quote339d941585="freeipodplayer"][quote339d941585="bruman"]freeipodplayer said he got 24k from brandarama in one year, so that audit may have been justified (although checking accounts for fraud after asking them to buy tons of stuff is real low).[/quote339d941585]

Kumbaya My Lord, Kumbaya, you believe everything you read on the internet?[/quote339d941585]

Why wouldn't I believe what you posted? You said you received 24k in relation to a post regarding 1099's and you said you had "well over 10k" in mpell certificates. It's obvious you took full advantage of ARGs offerings, and I really doubt one can earn that much without any offer fraud in the mix.[/quote339d941585]

24 K gold chains, 10k bracelets. nga.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 14:15:52

415pm

Mailman came and went without delivering Letter of Doom.

Safe for another day.

bruman

30-03-2009 14:15:53

[quote0732008239="Zags1199"]I just spoke with Kim.

She said that if you completed the offers before March 20th that you should just e-mail them, tell them you were under the old Gift Rules, and that the one e-mail address shouldn't apply to you. She said she didn't even know about the audit thing until someone called and asked her this morning.

This is also Kim's last day with Brandarama, and she said either Sherry or Morgan (?) will be handling things from now on.

As for my personal situation, I still don't know what's going on, and basically, she told me that there isn't anyone I can speak to regarding my check that I'm supposed to get from Brandarama. She sounded annoyed at the whole situation, and the communication in that company is beyond incomprehensible.[/quote0732008239]

Did you get a letter?
It's good to see that Kim is relaying the info that the "one e-mail address" rule wasn't in the pre-March 20th TOS. But then again it's not yet evident that people are receiving the letters for that reason.. I suspect offer fraud has more to do with it, but we will see soon.

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 14:18:11

[quote5fcf9cadd1="JANGALANG32"]even if someone signed up for the same offer over and over and over with a different email everytime they shouldnt be DQ'd for every gift. they should get the first gift and the rest DQ'd. over the course of a few years i used 2 emails. the only reason was becasue i got so much spam i had to switch i couldnt spot the offer confirmation emails.[/quote5fcf9cadd1]

No, they should be disqualified for every gift, as they were blatantly defrauding Brandarama.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 14:21:23

Does certified mail come when the rest of the mail comes or on its own?

manOFice

30-03-2009 14:23:12

[quote1a4bf78941="kwoodyk34k"]Does certified mail come when the rest of the mail comes or on its own?[/quote1a4bf78941]

the mail person will walk it to your door

Stkfree1

30-03-2009 14:23:20

Its how we normally get our gifts.

luumon

30-03-2009 14:24:11

[quote5bb3e822c5="kwoodyk34k"]Does certified mail come when the rest of the mail comes or on its own?[/quote5bb3e822c5]

personally delivered and signed.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 14:27:11

[quote55890bb9d0="freeipodplayer"][quote55890bb9d0="Eeyore"][quote55890bb9d0="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quote55890bb9d0]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [b55890bb9d0]which have never been allowed.
[/b55890bb9d0]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quote55890bb9d0]

Wheres the proof?[/quote55890bb9d0]

Are you seriously trying to say that sponser offer repeats have never been against the terms?

fanofpurple

30-03-2009 14:30:16

I don't think it was a written rule in the T&C (pre 3/20)- and I know when I called at one point, I was told that you can't repeat gifts ($500 Visa, $250 Macys). They made it sound as though you could do multiple sites, just one of each type of gift.

Zags1199

30-03-2009 14:30:55

No, bruman, I didn't get a letter. I called her to ask about my own situation with ARG and figured, for the sake of FiPG, that I would ask about the auditing.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:30:57

[quotea49e4aca3c="kwoodyk34k"][quotea49e4aca3c="freeipodplayer"][quotea49e4aca3c="Eeyore"][quotea49e4aca3c="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quotea49e4aca3c]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [ba49e4aca3c]which have never been allowed.
[/ba49e4aca3c]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quotea49e4aca3c]

Wheres the proof?[/quotea49e4aca3c]

Are you seriously trying to say that sponser offer repeats have never been against the terms?[/quotea49e4aca3c]

As serious as saying white rice is white.

sUrface1080

30-03-2009 14:32:15

what if it's wild rice nigga?

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 14:32:18

[quotebc015880ea="SkatingCrippled"][quotebc015880ea="JANGALANG32"]even if someone signed up for the same offer over and over and over with a different email everytime they shouldnt be DQ'd for every gift. they should get the first gift and the rest DQ'd. over the course of a few years i used 2 emails. the only reason was becasue i got so much spam i had to switch i couldnt spot the offer confirmation emails.[/quotebc015880ea]

No, they should be disqualified for every gift, as they were blatantly defrauding Brandarama.[/quotebc015880ea]

if you go to the store and buy something and then go back to the same store and steal the same thing you just bought should you also have to give back the product you bought? i know this isnt the same thing so it doesnt count but who knows if signing up for the same gift was in the rules was a no no yet?

mariners1999

30-03-2009 14:33:50

[quotee690d3681a="kwoodyk34k"][quotee690d3681a="freeipodplayer"][quotee690d3681a="Eeyore"][quotee690d3681a="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quotee690d3681a]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [be690d3681a]which have never been allowed.
[/be690d3681a]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quotee690d3681a]

Wheres the proof?[/quotee690d3681a]

Are you seriously trying to say that sponser offer repeats have never been against the terms?[/quotee690d3681a]

It also depends on how far they want to take it..... They may go as far as saying if you did the entertainment book 2007 and then did it again for the entertainment book 2008 on different site and different gifts that it would be a repeat.... Nobody knows yet.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:35:07

[quotea0b9e432e3="mariners1999"][quotea0b9e432e3="kwoodyk34k"][quotea0b9e432e3="freeipodplayer"][quotea0b9e432e3="Eeyore"][quotea0b9e432e3="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quotea0b9e432e3]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [ba0b9e432e3]which have never been allowed.
[/ba0b9e432e3]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quotea0b9e432e3]

Wheres the proof?[/quotea0b9e432e3]

Are you seriously trying to say that sponser offer repeats have never been against the terms?[/quotea0b9e432e3]

It also depends on how far they want to take it..... They may go as far as saying if you did the entertainment book 2007 and then did it again for the entertainment book 2008 on different site and different gifts that it would be a repeat.... Nobody knows yet.[/quotea0b9e432e3]

or if I got pet insurance on 5 separate pets.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 14:35:48

[quote9b06038a32="mariners1999"][quote9b06038a32="kwoodyk34k"][quote9b06038a32="freeipodplayer"][quote9b06038a32="Eeyore"][quote9b06038a32="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quote9b06038a32]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [b9b06038a32]which have never been allowed.
[/b9b06038a32]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quote9b06038a32]

Wheres the proof?[/quote9b06038a32]

Are you seriously trying to say that sponser offer repeats have never been against the terms?[/quote9b06038a32]

It also depends on how far they want to take it..... They may go as far as saying if you did the entertainment book 2007 and then did it again for the entertainment book 2008 on different site and different gifts that it would be a repeat.... Nobody knows yet.[/quote9b06038a32]

Yeah, but he's asking for proof that sponser-offer repeats aren't allowed. At least I think that's what he's trying to say.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:37:10

[quote34efd41225="kwoodyk34k"][quote34efd41225="mariners1999"][quote34efd41225="kwoodyk34k"][quote34efd41225="freeipodplayer"][quote34efd41225="Eeyore"][quote34efd41225="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quote34efd41225]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [b34efd41225]which have never been allowed.
[/b34efd41225]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quote34efd41225]

Wheres the proof?[/quote34efd41225]

Are you seriously trying to say that sponser offer repeats have never been against the terms?[/quote34efd41225]

It also depends on how far they want to take it..... They may go as far as saying if you did the entertainment book 2007 and then did it again for the entertainment book 2008 on different site and different gifts that it would be a repeat.... Nobody knows yet.[/quote34efd41225]

Yeah, but he's asking for proof that sponser-offer repeats aren't allowed. At least I think that's what he's trying to say.[/quote34efd41225]


It wasn't a violation if it wasn't a rule. I HAVE the terms, gift rules, FAQ, Privacy, and EULA.

Not stated ANYWHERE until it changed on 3/20/2009.

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 14:39:16

what is a sponsor offer? is it the gift that is being offered by ARG or is it the sites you signed up with to get the free gifts? if its the site you sign up with to get the free gifts i dont see too many people not getting the letter

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:40:07

[quote8d71d1752c="JANGALANG32"]what is a sponsor offer? is it the gift that is being offered by ARG or is it the sites you signed up with to get the free gifts? if its the site you sign up with to get the free gifts i dont see too many people not getting the letter[/quote8d71d1752c]

the offers. (ebay success.... vioderm... etc)

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 14:41:58

[quote0cd397f409="freeipodplayer"][quote0cd397f409="JANGALANG32"]what is a sponsor offer? is it the gift that is being offered by ARG or is it the sites you signed up with to get the free gifts? if its the site you sign up with to get the free gifts i dont see too many people not getting the letter[/quote0cd397f409]

the offers. (ebay success.... vioderm... etc)[/quote0cd397f409]

wow, really? can you give me all your info that states the rules?

fanofpurple

30-03-2009 14:42:11

[quote0fd9d12b06="JANGALANG32"]what is a sponsor offer? is it the gift that is being offered by ARG or is it the sites you signed up with to get the free gifts? if its the site you sign up with to get the free gifts i dont see too many people not getting the letter[/quote0fd9d12b06]

The sponsor offer is the Netflix trial or the Emusic trial(or any other offer). ARG is paid for each person that successfully completes a trial. So being that we were all approved for these offers, they were paid, and now the screw us over evil

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 14:43:07

[quoteccb99a15ae="JANGALANG32"][quoteccb99a15ae="SkatingCrippled"][quoteccb99a15ae="JANGALANG32"]even if someone signed up for the same offer over and over and over with a different email everytime they shouldnt be DQ'd for every gift. they should get the first gift and the rest DQ'd. over the course of a few years i used 2 emails. the only reason was becasue i got so much spam i had to switch i couldnt spot the offer confirmation emails.[/quoteccb99a15ae]

No, they should be disqualified for every gift, as they were blatantly defrauding Brandarama.[/quoteccb99a15ae]

if you go to the store and buy something and then go back to the same store and steal the same thing you just bought should you also have to give back the product you bought? i know this isnt the same thing so it doesnt count but who knows if signing up for the same gift was in the rules was a no no yet?[/quoteccb99a15ae]

Fail analogy is fail.

But seriously, these companies pay their affiliates to generate linewli sign-ups and members. If you sign up for, let's say Netflix, over and over again under different emails, you are defrauding Netflix out of their money.

I have no pity towards the people who do that kind of shit, as it absolutely liruinsli the freebie experience for the rest of us. It causes offer requirements to raise, stricter rules and regulations, and in some cases, good freebie sites leaving the scene altogether.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 14:47:19

[quotec3646cf609="freeipodplayer"][quotec3646cf609="kwoodyk34k"][quotec3646cf609="mariners1999"][quotec3646cf609="kwoodyk34k"][quotec3646cf609="freeipodplayer"][quotec3646cf609="Eeyore"][quotec3646cf609="doylnea"]FWIW, I can be a test case to see if they're sending these letters to everyone, because I only had one site, with one email address outstanding when the MPell thing came along, and I never repeated any offers. In theory, my account should be as clear as can be, and I shouldn't get a letter.[/quotec3646cf609]
Same here. I did two sites with the same email address and signup information and did not repeat any offers. I'll let you know if I get a love note. Scanning this it looks like they are going after people who duplicated sponsor offers by using multiple email addresses to avoid detection, not using multiple email addresses just to sign up for the sites. The key seems to be sponsor offer repeats, [bc3646cf609]which have never been allowed.
[/bc3646cf609]
But before anyone fires up their legal jalopy and starts stinking up the place even more than it is, maybe the response as that asked for in the letter would be a better idea.[/quotec3646cf609]

Wheres the proof?[/quotec3646cf609]

Are you seriously trying to say that sponser offer repeats have never been against the terms?[/quotec3646cf609]

It also depends on how far they want to take it..... They may go as far as saying if you did the entertainment book 2007 and then did it again for the entertainment book 2008 on different site and different gifts that it would be a repeat.... Nobody knows yet.[/quotec3646cf609]

Yeah, but he's asking for proof that sponser-offer repeats aren't allowed. At least I think that's what he's trying to say.[/quotec3646cf609]


It wasn't a violation if it wasn't a rule. I HAVE the terms, gift rules, FAQ, Privacy, and EULA.

Not stated ANYWHERE until it changed on 3/20/2009.[/quotec3646cf609]

It's gotta be there somewhere.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:47:52

[quote4429705353="SkatingCrippled"][quote4429705353="JANGALANG32"][quote4429705353="SkatingCrippled"][quote4429705353="JANGALANG32"]even if someone signed up for the same offer over and over and over with a different email everytime they shouldnt be DQ'd for every gift. they should get the first gift and the rest DQ'd. over the course of a few years i used 2 emails. the only reason was becasue i got so much spam i had to switch i couldnt spot the offer confirmation emails.[/quote4429705353]

No, they should be disqualified for every gift, as they were blatantly defrauding Brandarama.[/quote4429705353]

if you go to the store and buy something and then go back to the same store and steal the same thing you just bought should you also have to give back the product you bought? i know this isnt the same thing so it doesnt count but who knows if signing up for the same gift was in the rules was a no no yet?[/quote4429705353]

Fail analogy is fail.

But seriously, these companies pay their affiliates to generate linewli sign-ups and members. If you sign up for, let's say Netflix, over and over again under different emails, you are defrauding Netflix out of their money.

I have no pity towards the people who do that kind of shit, as it absolutely liruinsli the freebie experience for the rest of us. It causes offer requirements to raise, stricter rules and regulations, and in some cases, good freebie sites leaving the scene altogether.[/quote4429705353]

all these "freebie" companies are, are basically a tiny front for spam. thats it.

They make money off our private information, NOT CPA walls or freebies. (well, it probably does generate alittle bit, but the $ is in selling our info.

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 14:49:36

how can a customer ruin the experience? i would say ARG ruined the experience by not shipping in 6-8 weeks, and by not enforcing the rules (its still a debate if it is a rule) when they're broken. i dont even know if i did multiple sponsors i need to go back and look. to take ARG's side in this is wrong...every system gets abused when its not enforced. half the sponsor offers are a scam anyways. 1 company has a page full of diet pills on it.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:49:48

[quoteeaf45eaf82="kwoodyk34k"]
It's gotta be there somewhere.[/quoteeaf45eaf82]

Do your homework before you post.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 14:51:01

I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 14:52:38

[quote574a4079fb="freeipodplayer"][quote574a4079fb="kwoodyk34k"]
It's gotta be there somewhere.[/quote574a4079fb]

Do your homework before you post.[/quote574a4079fb]

I just did my homework.
Well, I didn't finish a few questions but I'll just copy someone before class tonight.

Unless, anyone knows what happens when alpha-amylase is boiled with starch for 40 minutes and given an iodine test?

fesicnet

30-03-2009 14:53:07

I would like to start by saying I have not received a letter, nor do I expect too. However, given the growing concern of the current situation I called both Mpell and Brandarama. Both of them claimed of knowing nothing about the disqualifications until some prodding. Mpell claims that all checks should be mailed out 8-10 weeks from when they are process, for me that is 2-3 more weeks. Brandarama admits that this occurring, but claims that it is only being used in extreme circumstances. (Such as someone having six accounts or multiple cases of offer fraud)

Not to go negative but my speculation is Brandarma might be heading to receivership. Last year they received a $10 million dollar investment, which was not enough to supplement the cost of sending out $500 rewards when there income from advertisers was only $50. (Don't believe it is so low, open an affiliate account with Commission Junction) Every form that gets mailed in is a loss! The foundation of the company was a poorly executed failed concept. On top of that they have missed multiple affiliate payments and there bailout has abandoned the merger. From what is being posted it seems as Kim indicates the company is in disarray and possible desperate for survival.

If the business model was sound they would have never wanted or needed the $10 million dollar investment. This company seems to have been acting as a ponzi scheme. Needing new users and people completing more offers to payout, previous user more then the company earned from them. This would explain why the shipping time continued to be delayed.

Once the delay grew to long they brought in Mpell in hopes people would say, forget it and not redeem there certificates. I am not sure how many people they expected to redeem vs. did redeem, but it seems like more did then expected. Now they are looking for any excuse to preserve capital and starve off bankruptcy.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 14:55:18

[quotef26069ea3c="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quotef26069ea3c]

When did you get the letter?
When was it dated?
What state do you live in?

fesicnet

30-03-2009 14:55:50

[quote89b8554f10="freeipodplayer"]

It wasn't a violation if it wasn't a rule. I HAVE the terms, gift rules, FAQ, Privacy, and EULA.

Not stated ANYWHERE until it changed on 3/20/2009.[/quote89b8554f10]

Can you please send them to me, they would be of great assistance. Chris

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 14:56:16

[quote8c27284c53="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quote8c27284c53]

That's gotta be the oldest excuse in the freebie-world book. "I swear that my mother, sibling, dog, etc completed the site on their own; I had nothing to do with it!"

Look at it from ARG's prospective. It's lihighlyli unlikely that your brother completed the offers on his own doing. If you didn't do them yourself, you probably led your brother through the process, right?

That's considered wrong, and common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 14:57:35

[quotec563b4fa6c="kwoodyk34k"][quotec563b4fa6c="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quotec563b4fa6c]

When did you get the letter?
When was it dated?
What state do you live in?[/quotec563b4fa6c]

today, 3/27 and in NY

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:58:06

[quote7a1436a53e="SkatingCrippled"][quote7a1436a53e="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quote7a1436a53e]

That's gotta be the oldest excuse in the freebie-world book. "I swear that my mother, sibling, dog, etc completed the site on their own; I had nothing to do with it!"

Look at it from ARG's prospective. It's lihighlyli unlikely that your brother completed the offers on his own doing. If you didn't do them yourself, you probably led your brother through the process, right?

That's considered wrong, and common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed.[/quote7a1436a53e]

Oh i forgot, I can't complete offers on the same IP as my brother? Wheres the fucking rule? for the 19th time.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 14:58:55

[quote2cc02c83dd="fesicnet"][quote2cc02c83dd="freeipodplayer"]

It wasn't a violation if it wasn't a rule. I HAVE the terms, gift rules, FAQ, Privacy, and EULA.

Not stated ANYWHERE until it changed on 3/20/2009.[/quote2cc02c83dd]

Can you please send them to me, they would be of great assistance. Chris[/quote2cc02c83dd]

Yes, I will send them to you in a bit, look for a PM

bruman

30-03-2009 14:59:12

[quote73d666c0e6="fesicnet"] Brandarama admits that this occurring, but claims that it is only being used in extreme circumstances. (Such as someone having six accounts or multiple cases of offer fraud) [/quote73d666c0e6]

Thank you for calling and getting at least some "official" response to all this.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 15:00:23

[quotec0faf4f728="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quotec0faf4f728]

Also, November 15 2008

[ic0faf4f728]Subject
Other


What is your policy on multiple residents from the same household doing your sites?

Can someone else that lives here do the same gifts that i did?

Also, the earliest gift I have confirmed is $500 Best Buy from December 07. Any idea when that'll be shipped? It's almost December 08. Haha.

Thanks![/ic0faf4f728]

[bc0faf4f728]Thank you for contacting us.

Any member of you household can sign up for the same gifts as you have, they just need to use a different email address to sign up.

We do not know the status of your gift. It will ship once your confirmed to be ship date and name are reached on our shipping list. Sorry for the delays and thank you for your continued patience

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Holly
YourTopBrands Member Support[/bc0faf4f728]

jtackman

30-03-2009 15:02:03

There was never anything in the terms and conditions pre 3/20 about repeating offers either...are you trying to say its like a "golden rule" or "unspoken rule" ?

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 15:03:38

[quote541e3eb99c="SkatingCrippled"][quote541e3eb99c="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quote541e3eb99c]

That's gotta be the oldest excuse in the freebie-world book. "I swear that my mother, sibling, dog, etc completed the site on their own; I had nothing to do with it!"

Look at it from ARG's prospective. It's lihighlyli unlikely that your brother completed the offers on his own doing. If you didn't do them yourself, you probably led your brother through the process, right?

That's considered wrong, and common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed.[/quote541e3eb99c]

Absolutely not true. I absolutely led him into the DIY scene by suggesting he try it but he did everything himself and if he asked about an offer I would say go for it and that's it. Is any of that wrong? Why would I post if I was guilty of anything and open myself up to ciritcism? He has his own credit card, address and everything so I don't know why you would assume I did anything? I'm just trying to explain my situation and why I was DQ'd for nothing in hopes of giving a different perspective to help! I can't believe someone would actually side with ARG and all the BS they have been pulling for 2+ years.

jtackman

30-03-2009 15:06:12

He's only 19 and thinks he knows everything. Mr hot shot probably has 7k for 2008 on his tax return income..

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 15:06:16

[quote929078a8a2="PS600REVX"][quote929078a8a2="SkatingCrippled"][quote929078a8a2="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quote929078a8a2]

That's gotta be the oldest excuse in the freebie-world book. "I swear that my mother, sibling, dog, etc completed the site on their own; I had nothing to do with it!"

Look at it from ARG's prospective. It's lihighlyli unlikely that your brother completed the offers on his own doing. If you didn't do them yourself, you probably led your brother through the process, right?

That's considered wrong, and common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed.[/quote929078a8a2]

Absolutely not true. I absolutely led him into the DIY scene by suggesting he try it but he did everything himself and if he asked about an offer I would say go for it and that's it. Is any of that wrong? Why would I post if I was guilty of anything and open myself up to ciritcism? He has his own credit card, address and everything so I don't know why you would assume I did anything? I'm just trying to explain my situation and why I was DQ'd for nothing in hopes of giving a different perspective to help! I can't believe someone would actually side with ARG and all the BS they have been pulling for 2+ years.[/quote929078a8a2]

Why didn't he do it from his house? That is, he knew how to do it himself right?

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 15:07:04

[quote65480decd2="jtackman"]There was never anything in the terms and conditions pre 3/20 about repeating offers either...are you trying to say its like a "golden rule" or "unspoken rule" ?[/quote65480decd2]

No, I'd call it the "common sense" rule.

These companies are paying for NEW members. You don't think it's wrong to sign up for the Blockbuster trial multiple times? Costing Blockbuster twenty-some dollars every time you start the trial and cancel?

mjforever

30-03-2009 15:07:19

Maybe he doesn't have computer at home???

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 15:07:31

[quotea18c03355e="jtackman"]He's only 19 and thinks he knows everything. Mr hot shot probably has 7k for 2008 on his tax return income..[/quotea18c03355e]

And now we're resorting to personal attacks, excellent.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 15:08:58

[quote73c467a87b="SkatingCrippled"][quote73c467a87b="PS600REVX"][quote73c467a87b="SkatingCrippled"][quote73c467a87b="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quote73c467a87b]

That's gotta be the oldest excuse in the freebie-world book. "I swear that my mother, sibling, dog, etc completed the site on their own; I had nothing to do with it!"

Look at it from ARG's prospective. It's lihighlyli unlikely that your brother completed the offers on his own doing. If you didn't do them yourself, you probably led your brother through the process, right?

That's considered wrong, and common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed.[/quote73c467a87b]

Absolutely not true. I absolutely led him into the DIY scene by suggesting he try it but he did everything himself and if he asked about an offer I would say go for it and that's it. Is any of that wrong? Why would I post if I was guilty of anything and open myself up to ciritcism? He has his own credit card, address and everything so I don't know why you would assume I did anything? I'm just trying to explain my situation and why I was DQ'd for nothing in hopes of giving a different perspective to help! I can't believe someone would actually side with ARG and all the BS they have been pulling for 2+ years.[/quote73c467a87b]

Why didn't he do it from his house? That is, he knew how to do it himself right?[/quote73c467a87b]

He said his brother's computer was broke once or something...

Regardless... I just posted an e-mail from them to me that said there is nothing wrong with multiple people completing gifts from 1 IP. Why isn't anyone reading it...?

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 15:10:09

[quote5162f35ea1="SkatingCrippled"][quote5162f35ea1="jtackman"]He's only 19 and thinks he knows everything. Mr hot shot probably has 7k for 2008 on his tax return income..[/quote5162f35ea1]

And now we're resorting to personal attacks, excellent.[/quote5162f35ea1]

You asked for it with your queer ass pose.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 15:11:18

[quote0b106fce81="SkatingCrippled"][quote0b106fce81="PS600REVX"][quote0b106fce81="SkatingCrippled"][quote0b106fce81="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quote0b106fce81]

That's gotta be the oldest excuse in the freebie-world book. "I swear that my mother, sibling, dog, etc completed the site on their own; I had nothing to do with it!"

Look at it from ARG's prospective. It's lihighlyli unlikely that your brother completed the offers on his own doing. If you didn't do them yourself, you probably led your brother through the process, right?

That's considered wrong, and common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed.[/quote0b106fce81]

Absolutely not true. I absolutely led him into the DIY scene by suggesting he try it but he did everything himself and if he asked about an offer I would say go for it and that's it. Is any of that wrong? Why would I post if I was guilty of anything and open myself up to ciritcism? He has his own credit card, address and everything so I don't know why you would assume I did anything? I'm just trying to explain my situation and why I was DQ'd for nothing in hopes of giving a different perspective to help! I can't believe someone would actually side with ARG and all the BS they have been pulling for 2+ years.[/quote0b106fce81]

Why didn't he do it from his house? That is, he knew how to do it himself right?[/quote0b106fce81]

I can't beleive I am actually answering you. Who the hell are you? But he is often without a PC as his goes down alot (it's old as hell) and didn't have one for a long time due to being a broke bitch that makes no money plus we are hanging out alot at my house and he is often using my house with his GF going in the hot tub and pool when I'm not home or am traveling for work he stays there for extended periods of time. Both single, have the same friends and are generally pretty tight and my house is much much much nicer than his aptmnt!! Now that I gave you my life story do I pass?? I'm being honest bro. Not much else I can tell ya.

doylnea

30-03-2009 15:12:48

stop the pissing contest please, or the thread will be locked.

Zags1199

30-03-2009 15:14:44

Seriously, everyone, shut up, unless you have new information about what's going on with everything. If not, flame one another through PM or something.

mistertomlinson

30-03-2009 15:15:49

Please everyone... chill out. I don't think this would be a good time to have this thread locked. Things are really starting to heat up and I, for one wanna stay informed. Also consider checks are supposed to go out early April, so keeping this thread open would benefit us all.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 15:16:25

[quote573932b40e="kwoodyk34k"][quote573932b40e="SkatingCrippled"][quote573932b40e="PS600REVX"][quote573932b40e="SkatingCrippled"][quote573932b40e="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quote573932b40e]

That's gotta be the oldest excuse in the freebie-world book. "I swear that my mother, sibling, dog, etc completed the site on their own; I had nothing to do with it!"

Look at it from ARG's prospective. It's lihighlyli unlikely that your brother completed the offers on his own doing. If you didn't do them yourself, you probably led your brother through the process, right?

That's considered wrong, and common sense should tell you that it isn't allowed.[/quote573932b40e]

Absolutely not true. I absolutely led him into the DIY scene by suggesting he try it but he did everything himself and if he asked about an offer I would say go for it and that's it. Is any of that wrong? Why would I post if I was guilty of anything and open myself up to ciritcism? He has his own credit card, address and everything so I don't know why you would assume I did anything? I'm just trying to explain my situation and why I was DQ'd for nothing in hopes of giving a different perspective to help! I can't believe someone would actually side with ARG and all the BS they have been pulling for 2+ years.[/quote573932b40e]

Why didn't he do it from his house? That is, he knew how to do it himself right?[/quote573932b40e]

He said his brother's computer was broke once or something...

Regardless... I just posted an e-mail from them to me that said there is nothing wrong with multiple people completing gifts from 1 IP. Why isn't anyone reading it...?[/quote573932b40e]

I read it and thanks. This isn't my situation exactly as we are in different households but def helps. Appreciate it.

NastyNinja

30-03-2009 15:17:09

Told ya'll and you thought I was fucking around....

NastyNinja

30-03-2009 15:17:50

On another note, I am going to win Powerball tonight because I can read the future. Like for instance, I knew all of you were gonna get fizucked up the butt!

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 15:18:51

[quote718408a754="freeipodplayer"][quote718408a754="SkatingCrippled"][quote718408a754="jtackman"]He's only 19 and thinks he knows everything. Mr hot shot probably has 7k for 2008 on his tax return income..[/quote718408a754]

And now we're resorting to personal attacks, excellent.[/quote718408a754]

You asked for it with your queer ass pose.[/quote718408a754]

Well it's good to see that we can't have a mature discussion in this thread, so I'll leave it be. I've shared my views on the current situation, and I commend the users here who completed their ARG site legitimately.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 15:21:20

[quotedd57ffd312="SkatingCrippled"][quotedd57ffd312="freeipodplayer"][quotedd57ffd312="SkatingCrippled"][quotedd57ffd312="jtackman"]He's only 19 and thinks he knows everything. Mr hot shot probably has 7k for 2008 on his tax return income..[/quotedd57ffd312]

And now we're resorting to personal attacks, excellent.[/quotedd57ffd312]

You asked for it with your queer ass pose.[/quotedd57ffd312]

Well it's good to see that we can't have a mature discussion in this thread, so I'll leave it be. I've shared my views on the current situation, and I commend the users here who completed their ARG site legitimately.[/quotedd57ffd312]

I was having a mature discussion with you and you just assume I frauded somehow. Never once attacked you but you need to realize that you don't know everything and that ARG is screwing some people that really didn't do anything wrong. Not how it is supposed to be done.

sUrface1080

30-03-2009 15:26:27

[quotee611f8a479="SkatingCrippled"][quotee611f8a479="freeipodplayer"][quotee611f8a479="SkatingCrippled"][quotee611f8a479="jtackman"]He's only 19 and thinks he knows everything. Mr hot shot probably has 7k for 2008 on his tax return income..[/quotee611f8a479]

And now we're resorting to personal attacks, excellent.[/quotee611f8a479]

You asked for it with your queer ass pose.[/quotee611f8a479]

Well it's good to see that we can't have a mature discussion in this thread, so I'll leave it be. I've shared my views on the current situation, and I commend the users here who completed their ARG site legitimately.[/quotee611f8a479]

your picture is kinda cute, want to take a hot poz load you power bottom you?

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 15:29:34

[quote75f043297e="PS600REVX"][quote75f043297e="SkatingCrippled"][quote75f043297e="freeipodplayer"][quote75f043297e="SkatingCrippled"][quote75f043297e="jtackman"]He's only 19 and thinks he knows everything. Mr hot shot probably has 7k for 2008 on his tax return income..[/quote75f043297e]

And now we're resorting to personal attacks, excellent.[/quote75f043297e]

You asked for it with your queer ass pose.[/quote75f043297e]

Well it's good to see that we can't have a mature discussion in this thread, so I'll leave it be. I've shared my views on the current situation, and I commend the users here who completed their ARG site legitimately.[/quote75f043297e]

I was having a mature discussion with you and you just assume I frauded somehow. Never once attacked you but you need to realize that you don't know everything and that ARG is screwing some people that really didn't do anything wrong. Not how it is supposed to be done.[/quote75f043297e]

I understand completely;and no, I absolutely don't know everything.

I'm not saying that you DID do something wrong; just please understand that in the past, a lot of people would sign up their family members for freebie sites. It was actually happening a lot in the referral-based websites; people would sign up a bunch of family members and complete the same offers under different names.

So forgive me if I jumped to conclusions after reading your posts, but anyone who's been a member here for awhile will recognize the fact that the "family member" sign-ups were almost always fraud.

You should have no problem if you explain your position to ARG.


[quote75f043297e="sUrface1080"]
your picture is kinda cute, want to take a hot poz load you power bottom you?[/quote75f043297e]

What?

Eeyore

30-03-2009 15:29:38

[quoteb224671872="freeipodplayer"]Wheres the proof?[/quoteb224671872]
Well, I guess it's clear who has been repeating offers with different email addresses. LOL!

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 15:34:09

[quote59285a23aa="Eeyore"][quote59285a23aa="freeipodplayer"]Wheres the proof?[/quote59285a23aa]
Well, I guess it's clear who has been repeating offers with different email addresses. LOL![/quote59285a23aa]

Hey, people just can't throw out presumptions. No rule, No Violation.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 15:37:26

I was having a mature discussion with you and you just assume I frauded somehow. Never once attacked you but you need to realize that you don't know everything and that ARG is screwing some people that really didn't do anything wrong. Not how it is supposed to be done.

I understand completely;and no, I absolutely don't know everything.

I'm not saying that you DID do something wrong; just please understand that in the past, a lot of people would sign up their family members for freebie sites. It was actually happening a lot in the referral-based websites; people would sign up a bunch of family members and complete the same offers under different names.

So forgive me if I jumped to conclusions after reading your posts, but anyone who's been a member here for awhile will recognize the fact that the "family member" sign-ups were almost always fraud.

You should have no problem if you explain your position to ARG.


we'll see. If they are bent on DQing where they can who says they have to believe me? But if I need to take it further I will. From a legal point of view, 2 different people in 2 different households has never broken a rule I have seen.

NastyNinja

30-03-2009 15:39:15

HI skating crippled....are you really crippled because my sister is and its not a joke.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 15:39:35

Okay guys, lets calm down.

No more crap. This thread really will be shut down, I have seen it happen before.

NastyNinja

30-03-2009 15:40:03

This is a great thread....so juicy and exciting!

Eeyore

30-03-2009 15:41:16

Considering that (1) these audit letters just started showing up and (2) [u7244ff48a1]nobody has actually responded to one yet[/u7244ff48a1], all this hand wringing is just so much self-flagellation. How about replying with the requested information like "my brother has his own account" with proof, or similar defense, and wait until someone is actually disqualified instead of generating all this heat? Talk about a waste of time and energy.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 15:43:15

[quote4291210a67="Eeyore"]Considering that (1) these audit letters just started showing up and (2) [u4291210a67]nobody has actually responded to one yet[/u4291210a67], all this hand wringing is just so much self-flagellation. How about replying with the requested information like "my brother has his own account" with proof, or similar defense, [b4291210a67]and wait until someone is actually disqualified instead of generating all this heat? [/b4291210a67] Talk about a waste of time and energy.[/quote4291210a67]

People who received the letter ARE disqualified. Please read it a few pages back.

And I HAVE responded to mine.

bruman

30-03-2009 15:43:22

[quoted7db10d054="freeipodplayer"][quoted7db10d054="Eeyore"][quoted7db10d054="freeipodplayer"]Wheres the proof?[/quoted7db10d054]
Well, I guess it's clear who has been repeating offers with different email addresses. LOL![/quoted7db10d054]

Hey, people just can't throw out presumptions. No rule, No Violation.[/quoted7db10d054]

So you're going to plead ignorance? C'mon, you've been in this for a while.. you KNEW that repeating offers was fraud and grounds for disqualification on any freebie site across the board. I'm sure you made a shit load of profit from ARG but now it's finally caught up to you. I don't know how much of a case you have, but good luck in convincing ARG that they allowed sponsor repeats.

PS600REVX

30-03-2009 15:43:58

[quote16b49c9278="Eeyore"]Considering that (1) these audit letters just started showing up and (2) [u16b49c9278]nobody has actually responded to one yet[/u16b49c9278], all this hand wringing is just so much self-flagellation. How about replying with the requested information like "my brother has his own account" with proof, or similar defense, and wait until someone is actually disqualified instead of generating all this heat? Talk about a waste of time and energy.[/quote16b49c9278]

Done, but who knows how long until they reply back??

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 15:44:41

[quotea900a623a9="bruman"][quotea900a623a9="freeipodplayer"][quotea900a623a9="Eeyore"][quotea900a623a9="freeipodplayer"]Wheres the proof?[/quotea900a623a9]
Well, I guess it's clear who has been repeating offers with different email addresses. LOL![/quotea900a623a9]

Hey, people just can't throw out presumptions. No rule, No Violation.[/quotea900a623a9]

So you're going to plead ignorance? C'mon, you've been in this for a while.. you KNEW that repeating offers was fraud and grounds for disqualification on any freebie site across the board. I'm sure you made a shit load of profit from ARG but now it's finally caught up to you. I don't know how much of a case you have, but good luck in convincing ARG that they allowed sponsor repeats.[/quotea900a623a9]

They wrote the rules, I followed them.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 15:46:09

[quotec03e144dad="PS600REVX"][quotec03e144dad="Eeyore"]Considering that (1) these audit letters just started showing up and (2) [uc03e144dad]nobody has actually responded to one yet[/uc03e144dad], all this hand wringing is just so much self-flagellation. How about replying with the requested information like "my brother has his own account" with proof, or similar defense, and wait until someone is actually disqualified instead of generating all this heat? Talk about a waste of time and energy.[/quotec03e144dad]

Done, but who knows how long until they reply back??[/quotec03e144dad]

They replied to me after a few hours saying they received it and will reply soon.

bruman

30-03-2009 15:51:53

I know it got lost in all this other crap but if fesicnet's conversation with ARG holds any merit (that they are sending out these letters only in extreme circumstance of offer/site fraud) than most of us have nothing to worry about. I guess we'll see if anyone gets the LOD tomorrow.

RyanG

30-03-2009 15:52:37

update when you get a reply back. leave the bickering for another time please.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 15:52:40

[quote735c64d052="bruman"]I know it got lost in all this other crap but if fesicnet's conversation with ARG holds any merit (that they are sending out these letters only in extreme circumstance of offer/site fraud) than most of us have nothing to worry about. I guess we'll see if anyone gets the LOD tomorrow.[/quote735c64d052]

Well that tiffany girl and her friend were only owed 2k.

kwoodyk34k

30-03-2009 15:55:04

[quotee42d5ab82e="bruman"]I know it got lost in all this other crap but if fesicnet's conversation with ARG holds any merit (that they are sending out these letters only in extreme circumstance of offer/site fraud) than most of us have nothing to worry about. I guess we'll see if anyone gets the LOD tomorrow.[/quotee42d5ab82e]

So we have New York and North Carolina, correct?
And these are coming from New York I assume.
I'm Illinois. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

tiffrnwhitney

30-03-2009 15:56:39

LOL yea the Tiffany girl isn't owed very much. LOL. I think they probably picked out some people by random and also the abusers. Bottom line is......they don't want to pay out all of this money!

bruman

30-03-2009 15:57:13

[quote9ad77c0b05="kwoodyk34k"][quote9ad77c0b05="bruman"]I know it got lost in all this other crap but if fesicnet's conversation with ARG holds any merit (that they are sending out these letters only in extreme circumstance of offer/site fraud) than most of us have nothing to worry about. I guess we'll see if anyone gets the LOD tomorrow.[/quote9ad77c0b05]

So we have New York and North Carolina, correct?
And these are coming from New York I assume.
I'm Illinois. I'll keep my fingers crossed.[/quote9ad77c0b05]

Tiffany's friend lives in Michigan. But because she seemed to get hers early/was the first one to report back receiving one and is not active at these forums we're not sure if her's were sent out on Friday like others have reported back saying.

Eeyore

30-03-2009 15:57:46

[quote75d541277d="freeipodplayer"]

People who received the letter ARE disqualified. Please read it a few pages back.

And I HAVE responded to mine.[/quote75d541277d]
I can read just fine. You have 10 days to provide documentation
[quote75d541277d]
If you beleive that the result of our audit is in error, [b75d541277d]please provide a written response to email==audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email within 10 days of the date of this notice explaining in detail why you beleive that the results summarized above are inaccurate[/b75d541277d], so that we can make a final determination as to whether the terms of the Programs have, in fact, been violated. Please note that your participation in the Programs, to include all accounts referenced in the attached account summary, has been temporarily suspended.

Please be advised that if you fail to respond within the time period set forth above, all of your accounts in all Programs shall be terminated, not subject to reinstatement under any circumstances, and that you are not eligible for any future rewards that you may otherwise be entitled to under the Programs. [/quote75d541277d]

bruman

30-03-2009 15:59:22

[quote81ace5a85a="tiffrnwhitney"]LOL yea the Tiffany girl isn't owed very much. LOL. I think they probably picked out some people by random and also the abusers. Bottom line is......they don't want to pay out all of this money![/quote81ace5a85a]

Did you think of any other possible reasons you could have received a letter? Offer/site repeats, IP violation, anything? If they provided proof of your doings in a spreadsheet it seems like it should be at least somewhat clear what the violation is.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 16:00:05

[quotea88ed6bb77="Eeyore"][quotea88ed6bb77="freeipodplayer"]

People who received the letter ARE disqualified. Please read it a few pages back.

And I HAVE responded to mine.[/quotea88ed6bb77]
I can read just fine. You have 10 days to provide documentation
[quotea88ed6bb77]
If you beleive that the result of our audit is in error, [ba88ed6bb77]please provide a written response to email==audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email within 10 days of the date of this notice explaining in detail why you beleive that the results summarized above are inaccurate[/ba88ed6bb77], so that we can make a final determination as to whether the terms of the Programs have, in fact, been violated. Please note that your participation in the Programs, to include all accounts referenced in the attached account summary, has been temporarily suspended.

Please be advised that if you fail to respond within the time period set forth above, all of your accounts in all Programs shall be terminated, not subject to reinstatement under any circumstances, and that you are not eligible for any future rewards that you may otherwise be entitled to under the Programs. [/quotea88ed6bb77][/quotea88ed6bb77]

Nah I don't think the certified letter from me is required... they are were quite ... professional in the response email, verifying the time and date my email was received. (probably for there records... and for courts. i would assume) and it WAS from the ARG Legal Dept.

dubbin87

30-03-2009 16:20:40

shock

No letter here but after reading through the past 4 pages if I'm getting one it will prob be tommarow.

neverendingmoolah

30-03-2009 16:23:02

In all honesty things changed considerably in the freebie world over the past several years. Most IFW sites changed policies after campaigns were shut down and sponsor offers were pulled, rules were changed and made much more stricter!! ARG a/k/a YTB/Brandarama it seems were slow in catching up to the change. Most sites require much more than 4 offers for $1k and ARG (through no one's fault here) took a while in changing their policies. Albeit, has anyone stopeed to think they may have had to send the letter and DQ, as CYA. I am no expert but I think it is also against the IFW/sponsor policies to allow multiples sign ups from the same IP. If they were granting permission or condoning this activity they could loose their sponsor ads as well. Then, no more Brandarama for sure!!

bennyboy5768

30-03-2009 16:42:41

Here's the predicament I'm in. I just went back to all the brandarama sites I completed that MPell sent forms for and I put all the offers I completed into a spreadsheet and sorted alphabetically. I noticed that Clever Clasp is showing twice on my spreadsheet so I went to check the sites where its showing that I completed them. On one of my sites Clever Clasp is a page four offer and my status says Page 4 -1 offers. I know for a fact I only completed Clever Clasp once. I did click on that offer but never paid for anything yet it went as complete. The same thing happened to me with a NetFlix offer, I clicked on it but never signed up yet it was marked as complete. Do you guys think this will be an issue? I haven't received any letters yet and I'm in CA. Thanks in advance for any HELPFUL answers.

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JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 17:27:06

[quote4e2975272e="bennyboy5768"]Here's the predicament I'm in. I just went back to all the brandarama sites I completed that MPell sent forms for and I put all the offers I completed into a spreadsheet and sorted alphabetically. I noticed that Clever Clasp is showing twice on my spreadsheet so I went to check the sites where its showing that I completed them. On one of my sites Clever Clasp is a page four offer and my status says Page 4 -1 offers. I know for a fact I only completed Clever Clasp once. I did click on that offer but never paid for anything yet it went as complete. The same thing happened to me with a NetFlix offer, I clicked on it but never signed up yet it was marked as complete. Do you guys think this will be an issue? I haven't received any letters yet and I'm in CA. Thanks in advance for any HELPFUL answers.

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you will probably get a letter...i think ARG is looking for a way out.

manOFice

30-03-2009 17:52:06

ah, well all my accounts showed back up, I can now login to my accounts

slambam

30-03-2009 17:56:37

Well shit. I just get home frm work and spend a half hour reading this. What a joke. I only used 1 email and didn't redo offers so hopefully I'll be OK. I'm guessing today and tomorrow, maybe Wednesday if your on the west coast, is when they'll all be received since they were mailed from the east on Friday. If I get one, I'm gonna be furious.....

bennyboy5768

30-03-2009 17:59:54

BTW did anyone receive their Clever Clasp? Its been like a year and I still haven't got mine yet. So much for my 15 bucks.

slambam

30-03-2009 18:01:15

[quote7610e03dd9="bennyboy5768"]BTW did anyone receive their Clever Clasp? Its been like a year and I still haven't got mine yet. So much for my 15 bucks.[/quote7610e03dd9]

Haha, yea that was one of the first offers I did, and I get them pretty quick I think. I never did get those Hockey Fighting DVD's though.

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 18:07:31

can anyone come up with a good reason why they are trying to DQ people now and not before the MPELL letters? the only thing i can think of is the high number of certificates that were sent in. i think ARG thought it would be a lot lower and now they are going to plan B.

Zags1199

30-03-2009 18:08:23

[quotef6c1fd9604="slambam"][quotef6c1fd9604="bennyboy5768"]BTW did anyone receive their Clever Clasp? Its been like a year and I still haven't got mine yet. So much for my 15 bucks.[/quotef6c1fd9604]

Haha, yea that was one of the first offers I did, and I get them pretty quick I think. I never did get those Hockey Fighting DVD's though.[/quotef6c1fd9604]

I got them both, but it seems like I'm one of the few who actually got the Hockey DVDs.

jtackman

30-03-2009 18:09:34

Or it's because the half-century dmorris or one of the other mods complained to arg about the talks of offer fraud.

slambam

30-03-2009 18:12:02

[quote615d4665a5="JANGALANG32"]can anyone come up with a good reason why they are trying to DQ people now and not before the MPELL letters? the only thing i can think of is the high number of certificates that were sent in. i think ARG thought it would be a lot lower and now they are going to plan B.[/quote615d4665a5]

I agree, it's the only reason that would make any sense. Or there just a bunch of HUGE ASSHOLES. But wait, I think we've already confirmed that... ?

slambam

30-03-2009 18:13:44

Yahoo! 100 pages!

dubbin87

30-03-2009 18:15:25

[quotec1e2270c9b="JANGALANG32"]can anyone come up with a good reason why they are trying to DQ people now and not before the MPELL letters? the only thing i can think of is the high number of certificates that were sent in. i think ARG thought it would be a lot lower and now they are going to plan B.[/quotec1e2270c9b]

This my thinking as well. I really wish they would have had thier act together sooner, delaying and making people jump through extra hoops is bogus.

JANGALANG32

30-03-2009 18:30:31

[quote8e1081e013="dubbin87"][quote8e1081e013="JANGALANG32"]can anyone come up with a good reason why they are trying to DQ people now and not before the MPELL letters? the only thing i can think of is the high number of certificates that were sent in. i think ARG thought it would be a lot lower and now they are going to plan B.[/quote8e1081e013]

This my thinking as well. I really wish they would have had thier act together sooner, delaying and making people jump through extra hoops is bogus.[/quote8e1081e013]

yeah, making people shell out their own money and then DQing them is messed up. im probably close to a year and a half to my longest waiting gift and now they are deciding to look into fraud? i think there is a lot of DQ letters in the mail and its going to hit tomorrow. we need to stick together. if it turns into a legal matter it needs to be everyone not just 1 person. the more money involved the better. for the record i did not receive a letter yet

slambam

30-03-2009 18:57:23

Agreed. I got a feeling a lot of people are going to be pissed off, and I'll probably have another 5 new pages to read when I get home from work tomorrow. [b7d480d6502]If you do received one, please note the date it was postmarked, and where you are.[/b7d480d6502]

ashilef

30-03-2009 19:01:14

There was nothing for me today. I used the same email all across the board and never repeated offers but I'm still worried they may try to make up something...guess I'll just keep an eye out.

ILoveToys

30-03-2009 19:08:41

[quotea735fef7aa="jtackman"]Or it's because the half-century dmorris or one of the other mods complained to arg about the talks of offer fraud.[/quotea735fef7aa]

All you're doing jtackman is bitching about the fact that this is happening like your worried you got caught b/c someone told on you. Personally, I know many people are blatant frauders around here, and then they get pissed when they get called on it.

I hope people from fipg did make phone calls or emails to brandarama and mpell that brought this about. I wish I would have. I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for anyone who gets the shaft for fraud, and something tells me the people who have received the letters so far have done something to be suspected of it.

dolynea please just lock this thread for a couple of days. I don't really feel like having 10 pages to read about idiots bitching b/c they got caught frauding when I get home tomorrow.

Eeyore

30-03-2009 19:11:29

[quoted69cdd4778="dubbin87"][quoted69cdd4778="JANGALANG32"]can anyone come up with a good reason why they are trying to DQ people now and not before the MPELL letters? the only thing i can think of is the high number of certificates that were sent in. i think ARG thought it would be a lot lower and now they are going to plan B.[/quoted69cdd4778]

This my thinking as well. [/quoted69cdd4778]
Don't forget that their expected merger with TransTech went to shit last week...

dubbin87

30-03-2009 19:15:46

[quotef63d2f7c09="Eeyore"][quotef63d2f7c09="dubbin87"][quotef63d2f7c09="JANGALANG32"]can anyone come up with a good reason why they are trying to DQ people now and not before the MPELL letters? the only thing i can think of is the high number of certificates that were sent in. i think ARG thought it would be a lot lower and now they are going to plan B.[/quotef63d2f7c09]

This my thinking as well. [/quotef63d2f7c09]
Don't forget that their expected merger with TransTech went to shit last week...[/quotef63d2f7c09]

True but me thinks this plan has been in the works for awhile now.

steveyankee

30-03-2009 19:17:39

[quote285f0f7bd7="JANGALANG32"]can anyone come up with a good reason why they are trying to DQ people now and not before the MPELL letters? the only thing i can think of is the high number of certificates that were sent in. i think ARG thought it would be a lot lower and now they are going to plan B.[/quote285f0f7bd7]


FIPGers complained to BR about users on this forum doing too many sites

Eeyore

30-03-2009 19:18:30

[quoted3a7f9a93e="dubbin87"]True but me thinks this plan has been in the works for awhile now.[/quoted3a7f9a93e]
Yeah, me too. Especially considering the time frame involved, but I think that pushed it onto the front burner.

Eeyore

30-03-2009 19:19:45

[quotef668da2983="steveyankee"]FIPGers complained to BR about users on this forum doing too many sites[/quotef668da2983]
Now seriously, why would anyone do something like that? What would be the upside?

ILoveToys

30-03-2009 19:21:30

People who are frauding don't get a prize and brandarama can pay out legit people here who complete things on the up and up. It's very clear who is afraid of the letters (and why they are afraid), by what people keep saying. If you don't like fipg then leave. We're better off w/out you probably.

slambam

30-03-2009 19:23:56

[quotecc3a06d5fa="ILoveToys"]
dolynea please just lock this thread for a couple of days. I don't really feel like having 10 pages to read about idiots bitching b/c they got caught frauding when I get home tomorrow.[/quotecc3a06d5fa]

I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't like it then don't read it. There will probably be many more letters received tomorrow, and for everyone who submitted these it would be VERY interesting to know where people get them, and what they got them for.

steveyankee

30-03-2009 19:26:14

lol @ people thinking they will get anything

http//www.code4gold.com/forums/Affiliate-Networks-and-Affiliate-Programs/17120-0-Active-Response-Group-Has-Stopped-Paying-Beware.html



I mean come on, they owe others (non DIYers) money, and you think they will pay us?

And no, I didn't get a letter. But I never even counted on this money coming.

steveyankee

30-03-2009 19:28:26

[quote197cd31f06="ILoveToys"]People who are frauding don't get a prize and brandarama can pay out legit people here who complete things on the up and up. It's very clear who is afraid of the letters (and why they are afraid), by what people keep saying. If you don't like fipg then leave. We're better off w/out you probably.[/quote197cd31f06]


You do realize that half the people here who posted information post their info at others first?

The person who posted the letter, yup, a different forum. News about ARG? Again, most are from other forums.

So if you really want everyone gone who dislikes FIPG, this place would be full of jews and ethugs who get no new information.

dubbin87

30-03-2009 19:30:37

[quoted468d21bab="steveyankee"]lol @ people thinking they will get anything

http//www.code4gold.com/forums/Affiliate-Networks-and-Affiliate-Programs/17120-0-Active-Response-Group-Has-Stopped-Paying-Beware.html



I mean come on, they owe others (non DIYers) money, and you think they will pay us?

And no, I didn't get a letter. But I never even counted on this money coming.[/quoted468d21bab]

There was another place that was making the same claims about a year ago as well. Yeah if they can't pay out the big bucks for thier afilaites,advertisers...etc no reason they'll cough up a few bucks for us.

mistertomlinson

30-03-2009 19:32:26

April is quickly approaching... I also used only one address per site and have NEVER repeated offers, but as mentioned above by another member, I too worry that they'll come up with something. As long as I've waited for my $5,000, I just can't imagine receiving a check for the full amount in a week or so. That just seems too easy. They have to have something else under their sleeve. But I and others have already shelled out $1,000s and I can't believe they'd think it alright to just start denying people after making them go THAT far!

steveyankee

30-03-2009 19:35:40

Oh yeah, April for checks?

Think again, there was new news today about what MPELL said.

And nope, I'm not starting drama.

Today's info just makes it more obvious that no one is getting anything, at least anytime soon.

dubbin87

30-03-2009 19:40:57

[quotea48d0f60bb="steveyankee"]Oh yeah, April for checks?

Think again, there was new news today about what MPELL said.

And nope, I'm not starting drama.

Today's info just makes it more obvious that no one is getting anything, at least anytime soon.[/quotea48d0f60bb]

Maybe this is a big April Fools???? Would be epic... shock

steveyankee

30-03-2009 19:43:00

roofles, that would be funny as fuck

At this point, I hope no one gets their money. Too many people on here feel there abover those who got the letters.

ILoveToys

30-03-2009 19:43:49

[quotee4e8729bc4="steveyankee"][quotee4e8729bc4="ILoveToys"]People who are frauding don't get a prize and brandarama can pay out legit people here who complete things on the up and up. It's very clear who is afraid of the letters (and why they are afraid), by what people keep saying. If you don't like fipg then leave. We're better off w/out you probably.[/quotee4e8729bc4]


You do realize that half the people here who posted information post their info at others first?

The person who posted the letter, yup, a different forum. News about ARG? Again, most are from other forums.

So if you really want everyone gone who dislikes FIPG, this place would be full of jews and ethugs who get no new information.[/quotee4e8729bc4]

When it was just fipg talking brandarama delivered w/in 2 to 3 months of the start date. I'm not too worried about good info being gone. I choose not to read the other forums b/c anything reliable is usually stated here by someone who has been here for a while.

Jews and ethugs huh? I'm glad you like to show your true intelligence....Hitler.....

SkatingCrippled

30-03-2009 19:53:11

[quoteb5d2041d7b="steveyankee"]roofles, that would be funny as fuck

At this point, I hope no one gets their money. Too many people on here feel there abover those who got the letters.[/quoteb5d2041d7b]

Can't disagree more.

I hope that everyone who completed an ARG site legitimately gets their money. Why should people who follow the rules get burned? Like I said before, I'm happy that ARG is finally cracking down on the defrauders.

And no, I don't think that I'm "above" anyone. Why is following the rules, and using common sense, a bad thing?

ashilef

30-03-2009 19:53:48

[quote26ff977d7f="steveyankee"]roofles, that would be funny as fuck

At this point, I hope no one gets their money. [b26ff977d7f]Too many people on here feel there abover those who got the letters[/b26ff977d7f].[/quote26ff977d7f]

Don't speak for me, I don't feel that way. I'm actually hoping those who got letters get it cleared up.

LucaBella

30-03-2009 19:55:20

[quote7f8bf32d8f="steveyankee"]roofles, that would be funny as fuck

At this point, I hope no one gets their money. Too many people on here feel there abover those who got the letters.[/quote7f8bf32d8f]

well... that's a little extreme, but yeah, those going "I never broke any rules so I won't get a letter therefore I hope the rest of you do" are going to find that Brandarama is not the judge and jury, they're not just weeding out the "good" from the "bad" they don't want to pay anyone.

I shouldn't receive a letter for offer fraud because I didn't do very many BR sites and I kept good notes so as not to repeat, and then my relatives who are waiting only did 1 or 2 gifts, but I personally used 2 main email addresses so I could get a letter. I am not worried though. I just wish we could get these Hall Monitor-types to stop posting these baiting comments about how they're glad people are being DQed. THAT'S what is causing the problem.

slambam

30-03-2009 20:02:45

[quotebe2a9afb23="ashilef"][quotebe2a9afb23="steveyankee"]roofles, that would be funny as fuck

At this point, I hope no one gets their money. [bbe2a9afb23]Too many people on here feel there abover those who got the letters[/bbe2a9afb23].[/quotebe2a9afb23]

Don't speak for me, I don't feel that way. I'm actually hoping those who got letters get it cleared up.[/quotebe2a9afb23]

Yea no doubt. Just because I don't want to get a letter doesn't mean that I think I'm better than them, I just don't want to get f'd over like they are.

doylnea

30-03-2009 20:30:39

[quoteab41f4e6d7="steveyankee"]lol @ people thinking they will get anything

http//www.code4gold.com/forums/Affiliate-Networks-and-Affiliate-Programs/17120-0-Active-Response-Group-Has-Stopped-Paying-Beware.html



I mean come on, they owe others (non DIYers) money, and you think they will pay us?

And no, I didn't get a letter. But I never even counted on this money coming.[/quoteab41f4e6d7]

It's actually Hydra who sends out payments. ARG has nothing to do with affiliate marketing, other than being the parent company. Hydra pays lots of money, every month, on time.

freeipodplayer

30-03-2009 21:10:18

[quote4b0cb97ed0="doylnea"][quote4b0cb97ed0="steveyankee"]lol @ people thinking they will get anything

http//www.code4gold.com/forums/Affiliate-Networks-and-Affiliate-Programs/17120-0-Active-Response-Group-Has-Stopped-Paying-Beware.html



I mean come on, they owe others (non DIYers) money, and you think they will pay us?

And no, I didn't get a letter. But I never even counted on this money coming.[/quote4b0cb97ed0]

It's actually Hydra who sends out payments. ARG has nothing to do with affiliate marketing, other than being the parent company. Hydra pays lots of money, every month, on time.[/quote4b0cb97ed0]

Wrong.

- Yes, Hydra pays on time, but these guys are not going through them.

http//activeresponsegroup.com/publishers.php

FreeOffersNow

30-03-2009 21:48:26

If nothing else, the audits would suggest an intent to payout...why bother narrowing the A/R if you're never paying anyone anyway?

jtackman

30-03-2009 21:57:28

All im gonna say is this is the wrong time to mess with people like this. i for one am not counting on the money, in fact i wrote them off ages ago. but i wouldn't be surprised if somebody fucked them up.

edgespeeder04

31-03-2009 04:29:32

okay wow 6 pages in just a day, this sucks, just hope we eventually get paid or hey will be hearing from my lawyer as well

livingloud28

31-03-2009 04:34:58

Everyone who is complaining once again needs to shut up ! The time period for processing has not even pass by yet. Also those of you with your useless comments save it for another forum instead of Bickering !

dubbin87

31-03-2009 05:06:57

[quotec03ade0713="livingloud28"]Everyone who is complaining once again needs to shut up ! The time period for processing has not even pass by yet. Also those of you with your useless comments save it for another forum instead of Bickering ![/quotec03ade0713]I guess you missed why the people are bickering.

Powerbook

31-03-2009 05:18:07

Ok, I see nothing but complaining and whining for many pages back. It is super hard to sort through. Can someone fill me in on what is actually going on? I'm sure it's not something mild since everyone is complaining about it. Thanks.

freeballin'

31-03-2009 05:20:43

[quotee31c69da4c="Powerbook"]Ok, I see nothing but complaining and whining for many pages back. It is super hard to sort through. Can someone fill me in on what is actually going on? I'm sure it's not something mild since everyone is complaining about it. Thanks.[/quotee31c69da4c]

ARG weeded out defrauders, people cried

mistertomlinson

31-03-2009 05:28:21

[quotee0f4dd08ea="FreeOffersNow"]If nothing else, the audits would suggest an intent to payout...why bother narrowing the A/R if you're never paying anyone anyway?[/quotee0f4dd08ea]

I completely agree. Believe it or not, nothing that has surfaced within the passed few days has convinced me I wont be getting paid. I just don't think it'll be in as timely a manner as MPell has suggested. I think they've come too far not to pay. Their practices have changed immensely and I think this indeed suggests their legitimacy. I do however think they are grasping at straws trying to come up with anything to thin out the herd of payees.

I'm still just slightly on the optimistic side.

viperklt21

31-03-2009 07:00:59

[quotea2a425e232="freeballin'"][quotea2a425e232="Powerbook"]Ok, I see nothing but complaining and whining for many pages back. It is super hard to sort through. Can someone fill me in on what is actually going on? I'm sure it's not something mild since everyone is complaining about it. Thanks.[/quotea2a425e232]

ARG weeded out defrauders, people cried[/quotea2a425e232]


EPIC

jasonatsmtc

31-03-2009 07:09:43

[quote17576f45e4="mistertomlinson"][quote17576f45e4="FreeOffersNow"]If nothing else, the audits would suggest an intent to payout...why bother narrowing the A/R if you're never paying anyone anyway?[/quote17576f45e4]

I completely agree. Believe it or not, nothing that has surfaced within the passed few days has convinced me I wont be getting paid. I just don't think it'll be in as timely a manner as MPell has suggested. I think they've come too far not to pay. Their practices have changed immensely and I think this indeed suggests their legitimacy. I do however think they are grasping at straws trying to come up with anything to thin out the herd of payees.

I'm still just slightly on the optimistic side.[/quote17576f45e4]

I know it sucks and all, but...if it was your company, what would you do...?

Armstrong

31-03-2009 07:58:32

[quote4b41a4c78b="jasonatsmtc"][quote4b41a4c78b="mistertomlinson"][quote4b41a4c78b="FreeOffersNow"]If nothing else, the audits would suggest an intent to payout...why bother narrowing the A/R if you're never paying anyone anyway?[/quote4b41a4c78b]

I completely agree. Believe it or not, nothing that has surfaced within the passed few days has convinced me I wont be getting paid. I just don't think it'll be in as timely a manner as MPell has suggested. I think they've come too far not to pay. Their practices have changed immensely and I think this indeed suggests their legitimacy. I do however think they are grasping at straws trying to come up with anything to thin out the herd of payees.

I'm still just slightly on the optimistic side.[/quote4b41a4c78b]

I know it sucks and all, but...if it was your company, what would you do...?[/quote4b41a4c78b]

I would offer everybody a free pizza!

I sure hope my check comes from both Mpell and The Reward Depot. Not that i've ever assumed I'd get the money, but it was just be nice.


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viperklt21

31-03-2009 08:19:26

Not that anyone cares but just in case....
I completed two sites without repeating offers.
I used one email address.
I did not receive a letter.

I am not trying to be sarcastic or rude with this question but I feel it may come off that way.

Why did some of you use different emails when signing up for sites? Wasn't that in Freebie sites 101? I am seriously wondering this. What was the reasoning behind using a different email address?

freeballin'

31-03-2009 08:31:12

[quotefd52b98c36="Armstrong"]

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wiebelhaus03

31-03-2009 08:36:29

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RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 08:39:47

MAn The shit hit the fan over the weekend huh, not sure if i got a letter or not, i used one email per domain.
Wasnt waiting on too many gifts either go fig.

bl63

31-03-2009 08:52:25

[quote19364a7b60="viperklt21"]Not that anyone cares but just in case....
I completed two sites without repeating offers.
I used one email address.
I did not receive a letter.

I am not trying to be sarcastic or rude with this question but I feel it may come off that way.

Why did some of you use different emails when signing up for sites? Wasn't that in Freebie sites 101? I am seriously wondering this. What was the reasoning behind using a different email address?[/quote19364a7b60]

Personally, for me, I used different email addresses for each of ARG's sites that I completed sponsor offers for, in my case YourTopBrands, Brandarama, TrustedRewards and HouseholdSavingsClub.

ARG had NO rules against this practice, and I have in my vast email collection a letter from one of their reps exchanged when I had accidentally signed up for an offer for a gift from Brandarama using my YourTopBrands email addy. The rep had NO issue with my use of different email addresses and said that as long as I had clicked on the offer from their offer page that it would credit to the correct account, and that it did not matter what email address I used.

I used the different email addresses for simplicity and to be able to quickly find confirmation email for various offers with ease amongst the spam. Over the past several years, I have completed 14 gift offers for the above-named sites, needing a total of 40 different offers and completing a total of 42 different offers in the process. Never once did I ever repeat an offer, it simply wasn't necessary when ARG was adding new offers on a fairly regular basis and I had a bit of patience.

While you completed "two sites," which I will assume means 2 gifts, I would venture a guess that the handful of offers you needed to complete did not generate nearly as much spam as 42 different offers and the sign-up process for 14 gifts has added to my accounts.

viperklt21

31-03-2009 08:59:29

[quotef94398e4d4]

Personally, for me, I used different email addresses for each of ARG's sites that I completed sponsor offers for, in my case YourTopBrands, Brandarama, TrustedRewards and HouseholdSavingsClub.

ARG had NO rules against this practice, and I have in my vast email collection a letter from one of their reps exchanged when I had accidentally signed up for an offer for a gift from Brandarama using my YourTopBrands email addy. The rep had NO issue with my use of different email addresses and said that as long as I had clicked on the offer from their offer page that it would credit to the correct account, and that it did not matter what email address I used.
I used the different email addresses for simplicity and to be able to quickly find confirmation email for various offers with ease amongst the spam. Over the past several years, I have completed 14 gift offers for the above-named sites, needing a total of 40 different offers and completing a total of 42 different offers in the process. Never once did I ever repeat an offer, it simply wasn't necessary when ARG was adding new offers on a fairly regular basis and I had a bit of patience.

While you completed "two sites," which I will assume means 2 gifts, I would venture a guess that the handful of offers you needed to complete did not generate nearly as much spam as 42 different offers and the sign-up process for 14 gifts has added to my accounts.[/quotef94398e4d4]


Did you get a letter? If so it looks like your only crime was being organized.

oleus

31-03-2009 09:09:20

regardless of what some people have done to get DQ letters, the simple fact remains that they should have DQ'd people BEFORE Mpell sent out certificates saying "you have met the requirements - go buy stuff!"

that is why in my opinion, anyone who received one of those letters saying the requirements had been met who then went and purchased items may have some kind of case to get their money. may not be easy but it's worth a fight.

i think some of the people saying the DQ recipients are getting what they deserved are overlooking the fact that these people also received letters requiring them to purchase hundreds, and usually thousands of dollars worth of merchandise before moving forward.

FreeOffersNow

31-03-2009 09:16:55

Too bad we can't give each post in this thread a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. It would be great if there were a function where if a particular post got 10 thumbs down, it would be hidden unless you click a button that says "Show shitty, worthless thumbs-down posts". I suppose then this discussion would only be 3 pages, though.

At any rate, for transparency sake...I'm "owed" around $3,000, used 1 email address across all sites, didn't repeat offers, and didn't get a letter. Perhaps for once the good guys will finish ahead.

neverendingmoolah

31-03-2009 09:22:11

[quote150fcbace8="oleus"]regardless of what some people have done to get DQ letters, the simple fact remains that they should have DQ'd people BEFORE Mpell sent out certificates saying "you have met the requirements - go buy stuff!"

that is why in my opinion, anyone who received one of those letters saying the requirements had been met who then went and purchased items may have some kind of case to get their money. may not be easy but it's worth a fight.

i think some of the people saying the DQ recipients are getting what they deserved are overlooking the fact that these people also received letters requiring them to purchase hundreds, and usually thousands of dollars worth of merchandise before moving forward.[/quote150fcbace8]

This is exactly why 8 weeks ago I suggested that everyone file a complaint with the NYAG's office. Like it or not, there is a flagrant disregard for proper business etiquette here. So far, YTB/Brandarama (ARG) has been doing what they want, and not at all what their TOS has stated. They are the ones who dragged this on for almost 2 years without so much as an apology to their many loyal customers. They are the ones who reached out to Mpell to help them resolve this fiasco, and now they are again rescinding on their own word to pay up in 8-10 weeks. Which according to Mpell is what they were told by ARG. I say, and it is evident to me that at this point anyone who receives a damn dime of their money from ARG is lucky.

I only used 1 email address. I am only owed $1950 for 4 offers.
I did the infamous $1k/4 offers, $500 Amex (rewards parade)
$250 YTB and $200 Rewards Parade, all of which went CTS between 10/07 and 1/08. I just dont think they were prepared to handle the demand they received for the $1k/4 offer site they had and this has thrown everything off track. Sooner or later they will have to put up, or SHUT UP!!!

freeipodplayer

31-03-2009 09:26:37

[quoteb84f8544d4="FreeOffersNow"]Too bad we can't give each post in this thread a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. It would be great if there were a function where if a particular post got 10 thumbs down, it would be hidden unless you click a button that says "Show shitty, worthless thumbs-down posts". I suppose then this discussion would only be 3 pages, though.

At any rate, for transparency sake...I'm "owed" around $3,000, used 1 email address across all sites, didn't repeat offers, and didn't get a letter. Perhaps for once the good guys will finish ahead.[/quoteb84f8544d4]

This post would get a thumbs down. No new info, just some random dumbass airing his thoughts.

JANGALANG32

31-03-2009 09:27:34

[quoteede3cbb845="oleus"]regardless of what some people have done to get DQ letters, the simple fact remains that they should have DQ'd people BEFORE Mpell sent out certificates saying "you have met the requirements - go buy stuff!"

that is why in my opinion, anyone who received one of those letters saying the requirements had been met who then went and purchased items may have some kind of case to get their money. may not be easy but it's worth a fight.

i think some of the people saying the DQ recipients are getting what they deserved are overlooking the fact that these people also received letters requiring them to purchase hundreds, and usually thousands of dollars worth of merchandise before moving forward.[/quoteede3cbb845]

i agree with this guy...its one thing to DQ people but to tell them them they have met the requirements and to go out and spend money and then DQ them is wrong. i can see that being their downfall in this DQ mess.

oleus

31-03-2009 09:35:03

not to mention, anyone who got a Mpell letter to go spend money was "CONFIRMED TO SHIP" by YTB, etc. If they were having such problems fulfilling gifts during the 2 year period when shipping slowed to a halt, why not the audits during the confirmation process to keep this mess from even happening?

instead people went through TWO confirmation processes (one with YTB, one with the MPell certificates), were told all was a-ok, and on the eve of the 8-10 week shipping window Mpell backtracks and yields to new auditing by YTB.

I think at the very least we should take some solace in the fact that Mpell seems like a relatively honest company and even though they probably regret getting into this, they DID send us the "go spend money" certificates which MAY end up changing this whole mess. Telling people to go spend their own money because they "met requirements" opens this whole thing up.

klangy

31-03-2009 09:38:12

[quotee1806e5ad6="oleus"]not to mention, anyone who got a Mpell letter to go spend money was "CONFIRMED TO SHIP" by YTB, etc. If they were having such problems fulfilling gifts during the 2 year period when shipping slowed to a halt, why not the audits during the confirmation process to keep this mess from even happening?

instead people went through TWO confirmation processes (one with YTB, one with the MPell certificates), were told all was a-ok, and on the eve of the 8-10 week shipping window Mpell backtracks and yields to new auditing by YTB.

I think at the very least we should take some solace in the fact that Mpell seems like a relatively honest company and even though they probably regret getting into this, they DID send us the "go spend money" certificates which MAY end up changing this whole mess. Telling people to go spend their own money because they "met requirements" opens this whole thing up.[/quotee1806e5ad6]

I agree. Wouldn't that mean that MPELL now takes on the legal responsibility of sending out the gifts-being they sent out the certificates?

FreeOffersNow

31-03-2009 09:38:38

[quotea7bff073bc="freeipodplayer"][quotea7bff073bc="FreeOffersNow"]Too bad we can't give each post in this thread a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. It would be great if there were a function where if a particular post got 10 thumbs down, it would be hidden unless you click a button that says "Show shitty, worthless thumbs-down posts". I suppose then this discussion would only be 3 pages, though.

At any rate, for transparency sake...I'm "owed" around $3,000, used 1 email address across all sites, didn't repeat offers, and didn't get a letter. Perhaps for once the good guys will finish ahead.[/quotea7bff073bc]

[ia7bff073bc]This[/ia7bff073bc] post would get a thumbs down. No new info, just some random dumbass airing his thoughts.[/quotea7bff073bc]

Oh the joys of the English language. Without any punctuation explicitly directing the audience to conclude otherwise, "This" would both grammatically and stylisticly refer to YOUR post. "That" would have correctly referred to the quoted post as I'm sure was your intention. Thus your post is the post that you're telling us all you believe would get a thumbs down.

And yes, I pointed that out for no other reason than that I strongly believe you are a modern day pegboy ( http//www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pegboy ).

mjforever

31-03-2009 09:38:43

I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS!

bruman

31-03-2009 09:42:10

So I just got done doing laundry in the basement, walked up the stairs, looked out the window and saw the mailman parked at my mailbox. I was praying he would not pull in my driveway.. and he just stayed parked there for like 30 seconds, testing my insanity... finally he drove off.

No letter today in Michigan.. I hope that means I am in the clear!

klangy

31-03-2009 09:43:27

[quote9f567b5091="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quote9f567b5091]

People who got audit letters should be emailing MPELL and ARG to argue this issue and threaten will legal action.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 09:44:48

[quotebb8b88139e="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quotebb8b88139e]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.

steveyankee

31-03-2009 09:46:42

[quote8ae4d9672f="FreeOffersNow"][quote8ae4d9672f="freeipodplayer"][quote8ae4d9672f="FreeOffersNow"]Too bad we can't give each post in this thread a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. It would be great if there were a function where if a particular post got 10 thumbs down, it would be hidden unless you click a button that says "Show shitty, worthless thumbs-down posts". I suppose then this discussion would only be 3 pages, though.

At any rate, for transparency sake...I'm "owed" around $3,000, used 1 email address across all sites, didn't repeat offers, and didn't get a letter. Perhaps for once the good guys will finish ahead.[/quote8ae4d9672f]

[i8ae4d9672f]This[/i8ae4d9672f] post would get a thumbs down. No new info, just some random dumbass airing his thoughts.[/quote8ae4d9672f]

Oh the joys of the English language. Without any punctuation explicitly directing the audience to conclude otherwise, "This" would both grammatically and stylisticly refer to YOUR post. "That" would have correctly referred to the quoted post as I'm sure was your intention. Thus your post is the post that you're telling us all you believe would get a thumbs down.

And yes, I pointed that out for no other reason than that I strongly believe you are a modern day pegboy ( http//www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pegboy ).[/quote8ae4d9672f]


A guy with an xbox live sig is calling out others?

Shut up geek.

klangy

31-03-2009 09:49:23

[quotea6d5a953f6="SkatingCrippled."][quotea6d5a953f6="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quotea6d5a953f6]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.[/quotea6d5a953f6]

I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.

jtackman

31-03-2009 09:50:48

All I can say is that Mpell is being named as a co defendant. If I don't get an offer back from ARG by the end of the week I'll file in the district court and have them served...

bruman

31-03-2009 09:53:38

[quotea617a788ad="klangy"]I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quotea617a788ad]

Can you be any more dramatic?

mjforever

31-03-2009 09:53:57

[quotef403e3eb6a="klangy"][quotef403e3eb6a="SkatingCrippled."][quotef403e3eb6a="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quotef403e3eb6a]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.[/quotef403e3eb6a]

I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quotef403e3eb6a]

Some people are just too judgmental. They came up with a conclusion without knowing the information.

bruman

31-03-2009 09:56:44

Did everyone who receive letters either repeat offers, repeat gifts, or use an 'excessive' amount (lets say, 4+) e-mails?

Those who did receive letters, they aren't going into many specifics as to why they were chosen to receive one.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 09:58:19

[quote1c57fd8ac7="klangy"][quote1c57fd8ac7="SkatingCrippled."][quote1c57fd8ac7="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quote1c57fd8ac7]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.[/quote1c57fd8ac7]

I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quote1c57fd8ac7]

I for one, AM ethical. You, my friend, are an unethical fraud.

slambam

31-03-2009 09:58:43

[quote0f42b0dbfa="klangy"]
I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quote0f42b0dbfa]

Why does the letter say you got one?

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 09:59:59

[quote8b2c99a4d5="slambam"][quote8b2c99a4d5="klangy"]
I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quote8b2c99a4d5]

Why does the letter say you got one?[/quote8b2c99a4d5]

Likely because he is a fraudulent punk kid.

klangy

31-03-2009 10:01:59

[quoted6643a0c4a="SkatingCrippled."][quoted6643a0c4a="klangy"][quoted6643a0c4a="SkatingCrippled."][quoted6643a0c4a="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quoted6643a0c4a]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.[/quoted6643a0c4a]

I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quoted6643a0c4a]

I for one, AM ethical. You, my friend, are an unethical fraud.[/quoted6643a0c4a]

No time for fools and kids.
Wish I could see your face when you receive your too my friend.

slambam

31-03-2009 10:04:57

My mail just came and went, no letter here in Iowa. I have $3000 coming which I did spread out over 11 months, only used 1 e-mail address and no duplicated offers.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:05:31

[quotecd3d4c7567="klangy"][quotecd3d4c7567="SkatingCrippled."][quotecd3d4c7567="klangy"][quotecd3d4c7567="SkatingCrippled."][quotecd3d4c7567="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quotecd3d4c7567]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.[/quotecd3d4c7567]

I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quotecd3d4c7567]

I for one, AM ethical. You, my friend, are an unethical fraud.[/quotecd3d4c7567]

No time for fools and kids.
Wish I could see your face when you receive your too my friend.[/quotecd3d4c7567]


All hail ethics, my friend! and you have NONE. Loser.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:06:10

[quoted4164b5be2="slambam"]My mail just came and went, no letter here in Iowa. I have $3000 coming which I did spread out over 11 months, only used 1 e-mail address and no duplicated offers.[/quoted4164b5be2]

Good for you, my friend. Looks like we are a rare breed here.

slambam

31-03-2009 10:06:17

Settle guys, we don't want this locked.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:13:40

[quote64439ca770="Eeyore"]
I can read just fine. [/quote64439ca770]

Maybe you need to check your glasses?

bl63

31-03-2009 10:14:00

[quoteb684fe2c68="viperklt21"]


Did you get a letter? If so it looks like your only crime was being organized.[/quoteb684fe2c68]

Yes, Organized is my middle name D

And no, no letter yet. I live in the boondocks of Wisconsin and today's mail is not due to arrive for another hour or so.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:15:08

[quoted312b65a19="FreeOffersNow"][quoted312b65a19="freeipodplayer"][quoted312b65a19="FreeOffersNow"]Too bad we can't give each post in this thread a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. It would be great if there were a function where if a particular post got 10 thumbs down, it would be hidden unless you click a button that says "Show shitty, worthless thumbs-down posts". I suppose then this discussion would only be 3 pages, though.

At any rate, for transparency sake...I'm "owed" around $3,000, used 1 email address across all sites, didn't repeat offers, and didn't get a letter. Perhaps for once the good guys will finish ahead.[/quoted312b65a19]

[id312b65a19]This[/id312b65a19] post would get a thumbs down. No new info, just some random dumbass airing his thoughts.[/quoted312b65a19]

Oh the joys of the English language. Without any punctuation explicitly directing the audience to conclude otherwise, "This" would both grammatically and stylisticly refer to YOUR post. "That" would have correctly referred to the quoted post as I'm sure was your intention. Thus your post is the post that you're telling us all you believe would get a thumbs down.

And yes, I pointed that out for no other reason than that I strongly believe you are a modern day pegboy ( http//www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pegboy ).[/quoted312b65a19]

Are we in English class now? I am glad you corrected the errors, but it seems rather off-topic. Thanks.

oleus

31-03-2009 10:16:04

just an observation - first couple of DQ letters seemed to go to people whose cousins, siblings, etc, were also doing offers.

not saying they didn't anything fraudulent but it could be a clue as to what they're looking for.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:16:10

[quotefe2a80ca1b="bl63"][quotefe2a80ca1b="viperklt21"]


Did you get a letter? If so it looks like your only crime was being organized.[/quotefe2a80ca1b]

Yes, Organized is my middle name D

And no, no letter yet. I live in the boondocks of Wisconsin and today's mail is not due to arrive for another hour or so.[/quotefe2a80ca1b]

My friend, organization is no excuse for fraud. Your type of people are not welcome in this arena. Thanks.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:17:39

[quotec1979a5e84="oleus"]just an observation - first couple of DQ letters seemed to go to people whose cousins, siblings, etc, were also doing offers.

not saying they didn't anything fraudulent but it could be a clue as to what they're looking for.[/quotec1979a5e84]

Sure, his "cousin", her "sibling".

FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD, WAY TO RUIN IT FOR THE REST OF US ETHICAL HUMAN BEINGS!!!!1!!

dubbin87

31-03-2009 10:17:45

eng101

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:18:18

[quote86b24fcccf="dubbin87"]eng101[/quote86b24fcccf]

You need to go to class too?

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 10:18:34

[quote851902cae4="klangy"][quote851902cae4="SkatingCrippled."][quote851902cae4="klangy"][quote851902cae4="SkatingCrippled."][quote851902cae4="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quote851902cae4]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.[/quote851902cae4]

I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quote851902cae4]

I for one, AM ethical. You, my friend, are an unethical fraud.[/quote851902cae4]

No time for fools and kids.
Wish I could see your face when you receive your too my friend.[/quote851902cae4]


All hail ethics, my friend! and you have NONE. Loser.[/quote

An having people spend money are gifts they dont plan to send out is real ethical as well.

oleus

31-03-2009 10:18:49

wait a sec skatingcrippled - using a different email address for different site domains (like one for YTB, one for Brandarama, etc) wasn't against the rules according to emails their own CS sent out. as long as he didn't repeat offers you shouldn't start throwing around "you're a fraud" accusations.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:19:52

[quotee1275b15bc="SkatingCrippled."][quotee1275b15bc="klangy"][quotee1275b15bc="SkatingCrippled."][quotee1275b15bc="klangy"][quotee1275b15bc="SkatingCrippled."][quotee1275b15bc="mjforever"]I agree Mpell is an honest company. Brandarama is the asshole here. They thought people ca't afford to redeem those certificates that Mpell sent us out. When they finally realized how much money they are going to pay us, they decided to find ways to DQed us which is total BS![/quotee1275b15bc]

Just because you feel the need to excuse your frauds does not mean you can place all the blame on ARG. Please blame yourself from now on.[/quotee1275b15bc]

I did nothing wrong and received a letter. Yours will be arriving soon too. Watch out for your mail.[/quotee1275b15bc]

I for one, AM ethical. You, my friend, are an unethical fraud.[/quotee1275b15bc]

No time for fools and kids.
Wish I could see your face when you receive your too my friend.[/quotee1275b15bc]


All hail ethics, my friend! and you have NONE. Loser.[/quote

An having people spend money are gifts they dont plan to send out is real ethical as well.[/quotee1275b15bc]

They poked Brandarama in the butt, Brandarama poked a quatro in the unethical peoples butts.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:20:40

[quotef92c505b43="oleus"]wait a sec skatingcrippled - using a different email address for different site domains (like one for YTB, one for Brandarama, etc) wasn't against the rules according to emails their own CS sent out. as long as he didn't repeat offers you shouldn't start throwing around "you're a fraud" accusations.[/quotef92c505b43]

Have fun with your letter, Ms. Fraud.

bruman

31-03-2009 10:21:28

SkatingCrippled. Seriously?

Quit with the flaming.. it's obvious you're trying to stir up something. Just scroll up and look how many worthless posts you made on this page wanting to start a fight. You've made your point, you should probably mind your own business now.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:22:31

[quote7beef971dd="bruman"]SkatingCrippled. Seriously?

Quit with the flaming.. it's obvious you're trying to stir up something. Just scroll up and look how many worthless posts you made on this page wanting to start a fight. You've made your point, you should probably mind your own business now.[/quote7beef971dd]

Michigan. The septic system of IL.

dubbin87

31-03-2009 10:22:45

[quote0786170394="SkatingCrippled."][quote0786170394="dubbin87"]eng101[/quote0786170394]

You need to go to class too?[/quote0786170394]

yeah cheerleading class. cheer

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:23:29

[quote3d1499d90e="dubbin87"][quote3d1499d90e="SkatingCrippled."][quote3d1499d90e="dubbin87"]eng101[/quote3d1499d90e]

You need to go to class too?[/quote3d1499d90e]

yeah cheerleading class. cheer[/quote3d1499d90e]

My friend, your pom poms have no business here. Mr. Fraud Bear.

oleus

31-03-2009 10:23:53

[quote20bc760aab="SkatingCrippled."][quote20bc760aab="bruman"]SkatingCrippled. Seriously?

Quit with the flaming.. it's obvious you're trying to stir up something. Just scroll up and look how many worthless posts you made on this page wanting to start a fight. You've made your point, you should probably mind your own business now.[/quote20bc760aab]

Michigan. The septic system of IL.[/quote20bc760aab]

how many more of these until this punk gets banned?

dubbin87

31-03-2009 10:24:47

[quote4905c3e65f="SkatingCrippled."][quote4905c3e65f="dubbin87"][quote4905c3e65f="SkatingCrippled."][quote4905c3e65f="dubbin87"]eng101[/quote4905c3e65f]

You need to go to class too?[/quote4905c3e65f]

yeah cheerleading class. cheer[/quote4905c3e65f]

My friend, your pom poms have no business here. Mr. Fraud Bear.[/quote4905c3e65f]

leave my pom poms out of this. shock

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:25:17

[quote849af17540="oleus"][quote849af17540="SkatingCrippled."][quote849af17540="bruman"]SkatingCrippled. Seriously?

Quit with the flaming.. it's obvious you're trying to stir up something. Just scroll up and look how many worthless posts you made on this page wanting to start a fight. You've made your point, you should probably mind your own business now.[/quote849af17540]

Michigan. The septic system of IL.[/quote849af17540]

how many more of these until this punk gets banned?[/quote849af17540]

Oh I see, I call out the frauds who caused this mess and likely contributed to the diluting economy, and you want ME banned? sure?

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:25:54

[quote1a9204a617="dubbin87"][quote1a9204a617="SkatingCrippled."][quote1a9204a617="dubbin87"][quote1a9204a617="SkatingCrippled."][quote1a9204a617="dubbin87"]eng101[/quote1a9204a617]

You need to go to class too?[/quote1a9204a617]

yeah cheerleading class. cheer[/quote1a9204a617]

My friend, your pom poms have no business here. Mr. Fraud Bear.[/quote1a9204a617]

leave my pom poms out of this. shock[/quote1a9204a617]

Can I touch them, Mr. Bear? lol

steveyankee

31-03-2009 10:26:16

At least we can all agree that nothing good comes out of Michigan.

oleus

31-03-2009 10:26:55

dude, go back and read- i haven't even received a letter and don't plan on receiving one because i didn't do anything against the rules.

if i receive one, you will be too. trust me

it's the personal attacks in your posts that i think you should be banned for.

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:27:03

[quote49dc0e3f79="steveyankee"]At least we can all agree that nothing good comes out of Michigan.[/quote49dc0e3f79]

Except for Chris Webber, I had a photo of him when I was a child and use to have thoughts of him naked. Yum.

Getstuff4free Kyle

31-03-2009 10:29:21

[quote589933f2ff="oleus"]dude, go back and read- i haven't even received a letter and don't plan on receiving one because i didn't do anything against the rules.

if i receive one, you will be too. trust me

it's the personal attacks in your posts that i think you should be banned for.[/quote589933f2ff]

You don't understand. He's ethically personally attacking people so it's OK. He has ethics.

dubbin87

31-03-2009 10:29:35

Guess I'll have to google who this chris weber person is.....

SkatingCrippled.

31-03-2009 10:30:26

[quote494eedc6c6="dubbin87"]Guess I'll have to google who this chris weber person is.....[/quote494eedc6c6]

My Man Dream.

He played for the Wolverines.......

Big hunk o sexy chocolate.

steveyankee

31-03-2009 10:43:19

What if I told you that I'm Chris Weber?

jasonatsmtc

31-03-2009 10:45:02

[quoteb9f07882d0="SkatingCrippled."][quoteb9f07882d0="dubbin87"]Guess I'll have to google who this chris weber person is.....[/quoteb9f07882d0]

My Man Dream.

He played for the Wolverines.......

Big hunk o sexy chocolate.[/quoteb9f07882d0] ? ? ? ? ?

klangy

31-03-2009 10:45:35

[quoteb881322020="SkatingCrippled."][quoteb881322020="dubbin87"]Guess I'll have to google who this chris weber person is.....[/quoteb881322020]

My Man Dream.

He played for the Wolverines.......

Big hunk o sexy chocolate.[/quoteb881322020]

He should be banned just for the picture.

ashilef

31-03-2009 10:46:08

You guys know that's not the really him right? This fool just joined today. Can we get this thread back on track please?

oleus

31-03-2009 10:47:16

2pm already - haven't heard of anyone getting a DQ letter today, am I wrong?

update - mailman is down the street.

hope my next update is good news ?

jtackman

31-03-2009 10:52:33

ARG is gonna be getting 700 or so faxes of pure 600dpi black goodness soon )

tiffrnwhitney

31-03-2009 10:52:47

Hey Ashilef,

Not joke, that is SO not him! What a dork, like I really give a crap what he says....don't really care if he works at ARG or whatever. (I at least hope for his sake that is not really his picture) And by the way, using "crippled" in his name is just morally wrong. He might just receive a "love letter" just because of that alone lmfao

oleus

31-03-2009 10:54:20

no letter here as of tuesday.

oandm6599

31-03-2009 10:58:39

I just called the Mpell number and the nice girl said that I had been approved for my money on 2/19, so hopefully I'll be seeing that money coming in late April or early May. WOOT!

oandm6599

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 10:59:17

Maybe they are just being dicks and are sending letters to everyone, and when they dont respond in 10 days you get no money.

Kinda how YFD audited once they confirmed your certificates but if you didnt send it back with like 10 days you were SOL.

chewy

31-03-2009 11:03:47

[quote945a514a99="bruman"]SkatingCrippled. Seriously?

Quit with the flaming.. it's obvious you're trying to stir up something. Just scroll up and look how many worthless posts you made on this page wanting to start a fight. You've made your point, you should probably mind your own business now.[/quote945a514a99]

ill second that!

LucaBella

31-03-2009 11:09:06

OMG, edited because I didn't realize that there are TWO skatingCrippleds... Hilarious!

freeballin'

31-03-2009 11:10:08

So I just got some AWESOME news

mjforever

31-03-2009 11:10:58

[quoteeb406e5c5b="chewy"][quoteeb406e5c5b="bruman"]SkatingCrippled. Seriously?

Quit with the flaming.. it's obvious you're trying to stir up something. Just scroll up and look how many worthless posts you made on this page wanting to start a fight. You've made your point, you should probably mind your own business now.[/quoteeb406e5c5b]

ill second that![/quoteeb406e5c5b]


I agree! People just ignore that fucking crippled! Thats why his nickname here is Skatingcrippled because he's mind is crippled!

dubbin87

31-03-2009 11:12:32

[quote052e8ee468="freeballin'"]So I just got some AWESOME news[/quote052e8ee468]

Switched your car insurance to Gieco?

freeballin'

31-03-2009 11:13:12

I placed an order at 1130am for 130pm to pick it up after class but I got an error on the web page and it said the order didnt go through.

I get a call at 145pm and the dude is like your pizza is ready. I was like lol wtf is it paid for? he says yeah. I pick it up 5 minutes later.

1 cent, medium bbq chicken

http//i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/surface1080/pizza.jpg[" alt=""/img3d82d6b56e]

wiebelhaus03

31-03-2009 11:13:38

even though i hate trolls.....whoever added the "." at the end of the name and used his picture is brilliant haha

PS you forgot to add he is 19 on your profile

Eeyore

31-03-2009 11:13:45

[quote0503408119="RolltheStampede"]Maybe they are just being dicks and are sending letters to everyone, and when they dont respond in 10 days you get no money.

Kinda how YFD audited once they confirmed your certificates but if you didnt send it back with like 10 days you were SOL.[/quote0503408119]
That makes more sense than anything posted here in the last 50 pages, and also correlates to the Mpell hoop they made people jump through.

added Chicago suburbs, no letter today.

bruman

31-03-2009 11:23:41

[quote58fbf3e2f1="Eeyore"][quote58fbf3e2f1="RolltheStampede"]Maybe they are just being dicks and are sending letters to everyone, and when they dont respond in 10 days you get no money.

Kinda how YFD audited once they confirmed your certificates but if you didnt send it back with like 10 days you were SOL.[/quote58fbf3e2f1]
That makes more sense than anything posted here in the last 50 pages, and also correlates to the Mpell hoop they made people jump through.

added Chicago suburbs, no letter today.[/quote58fbf3e2f1]

They obviously aren't sending them to everyone. I think most people don't have to worry about this and won't receive a letter.

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 11:28:08

its only tuesday you never know.

bruman

31-03-2009 11:33:20

[quote60b542a59b="RolltheStampede"]its only tuesday you never know.[/quote60b542a59b]

Mail typically travels at the same speed. They were sent out on Friday from New York.. WAY more people would have reported receiving one if they were sending them to everyone. And plus they are spending $5.30 every time they send one of these letters, so they aren't going to waste that on a person who obviously commited no fraud (for example, my friend did just one 3 offer $500 site, one e-mail, that's it).. they are sending out these letters to people who, by whatever their guidelines are, committed fraud/violated their terms. If you're on the east coast and didn't receive one today you most likely will not be receiving one.

JANGALANG32

31-03-2009 11:37:42

wow, true story here! mailman usually comes around 1 so a little after 1 i walk out to check my mail. i look inside and see no letter from scamarama. thank god! but wait, UPS truck pulls up as i close the mail box and hands me a letter. right then i knew what it was and got mad. not looking at who it was from i ripped it open and a stack of gift cards falls out. i assumed it was from scamarama so i thought they actually sent me my gift cards but i realized it was $250 to target, home depot, and chilis! haha, what timing to get a gift from ideal!

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 11:39:05

HAHA Awesome

bruman

31-03-2009 11:40:52

[quote3f5d29a685="JANGALANG32"]wow, true story here! mailman usually comes around 1 so a little after 1 i walk out to check my mail. i look inside and see no letter from scamarama. thank god! but wait, UPS truck pulls up as i close the mail box and hands me a letter. right then i knew what it was and got mad. not looking at who it was from i ripped it open and a stack of gift cards falls out. i assumed it was from scamarama so i thought they actually sent me my gift cards but i realized it was $250 to target, home depot, and chilis! haha, what timing to get a gift from ideal![/quote3f5d29a685]

Those are shipped via FedEx... you really thought ARG sent you your letter via FedEx Ground?

It also won't come in the mailbox... the mailman will have to approach you and get your signature.

ashilef

31-03-2009 11:41:05

Mail has come and gone here, no letter. Im in WA state.

dubbin87

31-03-2009 11:44:15

[quote6da77c39ad="bruman"]

Those are shipped via FedEx... you really thought ARG sent you your letter via FedEx Ground?
[/quote6da77c39ad]

he's [i6da77c39ad]not[/i6da77c39ad] smarter than the average bear. lol


j/k

JANGALANG32

31-03-2009 11:44:17

[quote146ff19903="bruman"][quote146ff19903="JANGALANG32"]wow, true story here! mailman usually comes around 1 so a little after 1 i walk out to check my mail. i look inside and see no letter from scamarama. thank god! but wait, UPS truck pulls up as i close the mail box and hands me a letter. right then i knew what it was and got mad. not looking at who it was from i ripped it open and a stack of gift cards falls out. i assumed it was from scamarama so i thought they actually sent me my gift cards but i realized it was $250 to target, home depot, and chilis! haha, what timing to get a gift from ideal![/quote146ff19903]

Those are shipped via FedEx... you really thought ARG sent you your letter via FedEx Ground?

It also won't come in the mailbox... the mailman will have to approach you and get your signature.[/quote146ff19903]

i was focused on not getting a letter so i wasnt thinking straight. i asked for all target cards. sucks that they split them up

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 11:55:42

[quotedf1b18498c="bruman"][quotedf1b18498c="JANGALANG32"]wow, true story here! mailman usually comes around 1 so a little after 1 i walk out to check my mail. i look inside and see no letter from scamarama. thank god! but wait, UPS truck pulls up as i close the mail box and hands me a letter. right then i knew what it was and got mad. not looking at who it was from i ripped it open and a stack of gift cards falls out. i assumed it was from scamarama so i thought they actually sent me my gift cards but i realized it was $250 to target, home depot, and chilis! haha, what timing to get a gift from ideal![/quotedf1b18498c]

Those are shipped via FedEx... you really thought ARG sent you your letter via FedEx Ground?

It also won't come in the mailbox... the mailman will have to approach you and get your signature.[/quotedf1b18498c]

they could leave the slip for you to pick it up at the Post.

doylnea

31-03-2009 11:56:04

OK, folks. Grow up, stop arguing, and let's try to figure this out together, rather than just picking on each other. I don't care if you have a huge e-penis. Stop being rude to each other or I'll lock the whole forum, not just this thread.

I've temp-banned a number of people, and banned the alias freeipodplayer created and was posting from.

And FYBers - stay or leave, we don't care, but stop being dicks because you think it's funny. It's not funny, and doesn't serve any purpose other than to stroke your ego.

RyanG

31-03-2009 12:15:43

I realized I couldn't log into any of my accounts so I started contacting support. Here's one of the responses I got

"Dear,
Thank you for contacting us.
You are only allowed 1 email per customer! You will not be eligible for all your gifts.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Kim
PollPrizeUSA Member Support

ruh roh

freeballin'

31-03-2009 12:16:52

[quote1a0a29af6b="RyanG"]I realized I couldn't log into any of my accounts so I started contacting support. Here's one of the responses I got

"Dear,
Thank you for contacting us.
You are only allowed 1 email per customer! You will not be eligible for all your gifts.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Kim
PollPrizeUSA Member Support

ruh roh[/quote1a0a29af6b]
lol troll

kim doesn't even work there anymore.

RyanG

31-03-2009 12:23:08

[quotea46dbf88f5="freeballin'"][quotea46dbf88f5="RyanG"]I realized I couldn't log into any of my accounts so I started contacting support. Here's one of the responses I got

"Dear,
Thank you for contacting us.
You are only allowed 1 email per customer! You will not be eligible for all your gifts.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Kim
PollPrizeUSA Member Support

ruh roh[/quotea46dbf88f5]
lol troll

kim doesn't even work there anymore.[/quotea46dbf88f5]

Oh? Really?

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Get the fuck out nub.

oleus

31-03-2009 12:26:12

ryan g - did you receive a DQ letter?

did anyone receive one today?

ashilef

31-03-2009 12:27:43

I guess Kim was lying about quitting? Or there is another Kim?

Eta Or maybe Kim is just an alias they all use, lol

dubbin87

31-03-2009 12:28:13

[quote1202570540="RyanG"]I realized I couldn't log into any of my accounts so I started contacting support. Here's one of the responses I got

"Dear,
Thank you for contacting us.
You are only allowed 1 email per customer! You will not be eligible for all your gifts.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Kim
PollPrizeUSA Member Support

ruh roh[/quote1202570540]

reply back asking why they are inacting new rules on old accounts

RyanG

31-03-2009 12:28:46

[quotecfe0ae1216="oleus"]ryan g - did you receive a DQ letter?

did anyone receive one today?[/quotecfe0ae1216]

believe I did. received an 'sorry we missed you' note from USPS for a certified large envelope, magazine or catalog. the sender's name in the corner though just has numbers, no name. i'll know after 6pm tonight )

kingkongaintgotshitonme

31-03-2009 12:29:03

[quote91dad93359="doylnea"]OK, folks. Grow up, stop arguing, and let's try to figure this out together, rather than just picking on each other. I don't care if you have a huge e-penis. Stop being rude to each other or I'll lock the whole forum, not just this thread.

I've temp-banned a number of people, and banned the alias freeipodplayer created and was posting from.

And FYBers - stay or leave, we don't care, but stop being dicks because you think it's funny. It's not funny, and doesn't serve any purpose other than to stroke your ego.[/quote91dad93359]

Just so you know, freeipodplayer was not listified

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 12:30:36

no he had like 10 other aliases, LOL

doylnea

31-03-2009 12:31:10

freeipodplayer was SkatingCrippled.

oleus

31-03-2009 12:31:57

so are other people who received letters also unable to log into their Brandarama account pages?

ashilef

31-03-2009 12:32:19

[quote05bcaaa656="doylnea"]freeipodplayer was SkatingCrippled.[/quote05bcaaa656]

I figured that was the alias, freeipodplayer was using.

mjforever

31-03-2009 12:33:46

[quote01ee246759="oleus"]so are other people who received letters also unable to log into their Brandarama account pages?[/quote01ee246759]


I can still log in in my account.

mariners1999

31-03-2009 12:34:18

[quote9d267b8e59="oleus"]so are other people who received letters also unable to log into their Brandarama account pages?[/quote9d267b8e59]

I want to know this too!!! Does it still say CTS on
your gifts you will not be getting?

mjforever

31-03-2009 12:36:18

[quote7b28ee9ac4="mariners1999"][quote7b28ee9ac4="oleus"]so are other people who received letters also unable to log into their Brandarama account pages?[/quote7b28ee9ac4]

I want to know this too!!! Does it still say CTS on
your gifts you will not be getting?[/quote7b28ee9ac4]

It still says CTS November 2007..It doesnt change at all.

dmorris68

31-03-2009 12:40:54

[quote892297a4df="jtackman"]Or it's because the half-century dmorris or one of the other mods complained to arg about the talks of offer fraud.[/quote892297a4df]
WTF is your problem? This is at least the second zinger I've seen from you today. I don't appreciate the snide accusations towards myself or other staff, so put a sock in it or GTFO. I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't even been keeping up with this stupid thread lately as I have never done business with Brandarama. Then I read this silly BS from the likes of you.

Keep it up and you're banned. Same goes for all of you who post nothing constructive but sure like to take cheap shots at other members and staff. Even those who think they're above those who they suspect of fraud, enough already. You're just making a bad problem worse, so just drop it.

As doylnea said, keep up the schoolyard displays and this thread is closed. And I'm hovering over the ban button on several of you that doylnea has apparently left alone. I've already warned some of you about the flames, personal attacks, and overall shitty smartass attitude before (I'm looking at you steveyankee). Keep it up and the herd will be thinned some more.

[quote892297a4df="kingkongaintgotshitonme"]Just so you know, freeipodplayer was not listified[/quote892297a4df]
Pretty sure he was talking about the SkatingCrippled. alter-ego, but regardless there are some shenanigans between them too. Speaking of, we'll be looking closely at your account as well, given as you just created it to post this comment.

LucaBella

31-03-2009 12:42:04

[quote9c4a766ef3="doylnea"]freeipodplayer was SkatingCrippled.[/quote9c4a766ef3]


it was wrong, but I loved him for it.

So far checked with 3 of the fam, no one got any letters in NC, but no one repeated offers and 2 of the 3 only had one email...

kingkongaintgotshitonme

31-03-2009 12:52:01

[quoted96c402559="dmorris68"][quoted96c402559="jtackman"]Or it's because the half-century dmorris or one of the other mods complained to arg about the talks of offer fraud.[/quoted96c402559]
WTF is your problem? This is at least the second zinger I've seen from you today. I don't appreciate the snide accusations towards myself or other staff, so put a sock in it or GTFO. I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't even been keeping up with this stupid thread lately as I have never done business with Brandarama. Then I read this silly BS from the likes of you.

Keep it up and you're banned. Same goes for all of you who post nothing constructive but sure like to take cheap shots at other members and staff. Even those who think they're above those who they suspect of fraud, enough already. You're just making a bad problem worse, so just drop it.

As doylnea said, keep up the schoolyard displays and this thread is closed. And I'm hovering over the ban button on several of you that doylnea has apparently left alone. I've already warned some of you about the flames, personal attacks, and overall shitty smartass attitude before (I'm looking at you steveyankee). Keep it up and the herd will be thinned some more.

[quoted96c402559="kingkongaintgotshitonme"]Just so you know, freeipodplayer was not listified[/quoted96c402559]
Pretty sure he was talking about the SkatingCrippled. alter-ego, but regardless there are some shenanigans between them too. Speaking of, we'll be looking closely at your account as well, given as you just created it to post this comment.[/quoted96c402559]

NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH!

Everybody leave FIPG, go to A4F & FYB!

The mods and admins here are the ones responsible for this big mess. They even admitted that they went to ARG/Mpell with fraud accusationg. Check back in this thread some pages.

They dont give two shits about any of you. They just make money off of you.



One more thing-
HELL YEAH, I just made this account, you keep fucking banning my ass.
I got to stay here somehow so I can keep reminding you mod's and admin's of your dumb-fuckness.
Ban me again you dumb fuck!

-Listking
-Listified
-Kingkonaintgotshitonme Bitches

marbs4life

31-03-2009 12:52:23

People in IL just got theres today (a friend) so if you think you are safe from a letter on the west coast after today. you are wrong.

I got MY letter yesterday, and I live 4 hours away from NYC....

marbs4life

31-03-2009 12:54:34

[quote8506c0759a="kingkongaintgotshitonme"][quote8506c0759a="dmorris68"][quote8506c0759a="jtackman"]Or it's because the half-century dmorris or one of the other mods complained to arg about the talks of offer fraud.[/quote8506c0759a]
WTF is your problem? This is at least the second zinger I've seen from you today. I don't appreciate the snide accusations towards myself or other staff, so put a sock in it or GTFO. I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't even been keeping up with this stupid thread lately as I have never done business with Brandarama. Then I read this silly BS from the likes of you.

Keep it up and you're banned. Same goes for all of you who post nothing constructive but sure like to take cheap shots at other members and staff. Even those who think they're above those who they suspect of fraud, enough already. You're just making a bad problem worse, so just drop it.

As doylnea said, keep up the schoolyard displays and this thread is closed. And I'm hovering over the ban button on several of you that doylnea has apparently left alone. I've already warned some of you about the flames, personal attacks, and overall shitty smartass attitude before (I'm looking at you steveyankee). Keep it up and the herd will be thinned some more.

[quote8506c0759a="kingkongaintgotshitonme"]Just so you know, freeipodplayer was not listified[/quote8506c0759a]
Pretty sure he was talking about the SkatingCrippled. alter-ego, but regardless there are some shenanigans between them too. Speaking of, we'll be looking closely at your account as well, given as you just created it to post this comment.[/quote8506c0759a]

NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH!

Everybody leave FIPG, go to A4F & FYB!

The mods and admins here are the ones responsible for this big mess. They even admitted that they went to ARG/Mpell with fraud accusationg. Check back in this thread some pages.

They dont give two shits about any of you. They just make money off of you.



One more thing-
HELL YEAH, I just made this account, you keep fucking banning my ass.
I got to stay here somehow so I can keep reminding you mod's and admin's of your dumb-fuckness.
Ban me again you dumb fuck!

-Listking
-Listified
-Kingkonaintgotshitonme Bitches[/quote8506c0759a]


A4F and YFB are a joke as well.

kingkongaintgotshitonme

31-03-2009 12:55:50

Yeah I know, I just want these mods and admins to be the only ones in here jerking each other off

steveyankee

31-03-2009 12:59:15

werd to the secret forum

kingkongaintgotshitonme

31-03-2009 13:00:27

fo sho my ngas.

LucaBella

31-03-2009 13:00:59

If you have proof of anyone reporting to ARG, share it...

freeballin'

31-03-2009 13:01:23

[quote86d41c231a="kingkongaintgotshitonme"][quote86d41c231a="dmorris68"][quote86d41c231a="jtackman"]Or it's because the half-century dmorris or one of the other mods complained to arg about the talks of offer fraud.[/quote86d41c231a]
WTF is your problem? This is at least the second zinger I've seen from you today. I don't appreciate the snide accusations towards myself or other staff, so put a sock in it or GTFO. I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't even been keeping up with this stupid thread lately as I have never done business with Brandarama. Then I read this silly BS from the likes of you.

Keep it up and you're banned. Same goes for all of you who post nothing constructive but sure like to take cheap shots at other members and staff. Even those who think they're above those who they suspect of fraud, enough already. You're just making a bad problem worse, so just drop it.

As doylnea said, keep up the schoolyard displays and this thread is closed. And I'm hovering over the ban button on several of you that doylnea has apparently left alone. I've already warned some of you about the flames, personal attacks, and overall shitty smartass attitude before (I'm looking at you steveyankee). Keep it up and the herd will be thinned some more.

[quote86d41c231a="kingkongaintgotshitonme"]Just so you know, freeipodplayer was not listified[/quote86d41c231a]
Pretty sure he was talking about the SkatingCrippled. alter-ego, but regardless there are some shenanigans between them too. Speaking of, we'll be looking closely at your account as well, given as you just created it to post this comment.[/quote86d41c231a]

NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH!

Everybody leave FIPG, go to A4F & FYB!

The mods and admins here are the ones responsible for this big mess. They even admitted that they went to ARG/Mpell with fraud accusationg. Check back in this thread some pages.

They dont give two shits about any of you. They just make money off of you.



One more thing-
HELL YEAH, I just made this account, you keep fucking banning my ass.
I got to stay here somehow so I can keep reminding you mod's and admin's of your dumb-fuckness.
Ban me again you dumb fuck!

-Listking
-Listified
-Kingkonaintgotshitonme Bitches[/quote86d41c231a]

quoted for LULZ

marbs4life

31-03-2009 13:01:37

Where is SkatingCripled. that little man lover.

dubbin87

31-03-2009 13:02:59

Sounds like a dark corner of the woods, I bet the picnic baskets there are covered in moss.


but on a lighter note, sunshine is out where I'm hanging out today, nice breeze too flowing through my fur.

kingkongaintgotshitonme

31-03-2009 13:03:24

he is in bed next to me

steveyankee

31-03-2009 13:05:16

wtf no hes in bed next to me

marbs4life

31-03-2009 13:06:17

[quotef6e352fadc="steveyankee"]wtf no hes in bed next to me[/quotef6e352fadc]

bow down

DRay9911

31-03-2009 13:08:42

so...what's new?

-dan

Getstuff4free Kyle

31-03-2009 13:09:34

So these letters are getting sent via USPS? I'm asking because I moved about a month ago (after I sent back the certs) so I don't know if it will be forwarded or not.

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 13:10:01

[quote1d77881960="listified"]To Me

Re Suspension of Gift Programs

Dear Me,

In order to provide exceptional service to our customers, we periodically audit compliance with the terms and conditions of the various gift programs we administer. Please be advised that we have conducted an audit of your participation with Brandarama, YourTopBrands, or other of our Gift Programs. ("Programs"). The results of such audit suggest that your actions may have violated the terms of the Programs and constitute an attempt to defraud or otherwise mislead us so that you may receive, or have received, monetary compensation or gifts to which you would not otherwise be entitled to under the terms of the Programs.

Our investigation had revealed that the terms of the Program have been violated, in that you completed the same sponsor offer multiple times under different email accounts. Please see the attached account summary as evidence of your violation(s).

If you beleive that the result of our audit is in error, please provide a written response to email==audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email within 10 days of the date of this notice explaining in detail why you beleive that the results summarized above are inaccurate, so that we can make a final determination as to whether the terms of the Programs have, in fact, been violated. Please note that your participation in the Programs, to include all accounts referenced in the attached account summary, has been temporarily suspended.

Please be advised that if you fail to respond within the time period set forth above, all of your accounts in all Programs shall be terminated, not subject to reinstatement under any circumstances, and that you are not eligible for any future rewards that you may otherwise be entitled to under the Programs. In addition, your violation MAY result in the forfeiture of any monetary compensation or gifts you may have already received. In such event, we reserve the right to take such necessary legal action againest you in order to reclaim any compensation and/or gifts you obtained in violation of the Programs.

Sincerly,

Active Response Group, Inc
Legal Department[/quote1d77881960]


I wonder if this means mpell gift as well or any future gifts not already handed over to mpell?

Might not affect the gifts we have sent certificates to mpell at all

Maybe they are just saying hey you have screwed us we dont want you screwing us anymore so we are closing your account, anything you have parked, and washing our hands with you. And dont let the door hit you on the way out.

dmorris68

31-03-2009 13:11:20

[quote94bc2b7630="kingkongaintgotshitonme"]NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH! NEWSFLASH!

Everybody leave FIPG, go to A4F & FYB![/quote94bc2b7630]
Agreed, anyone who shares this idiot's POV and maturity level, please please PLEASE leave and go elsewhere. We'd rather not be bothered with you.

[quote94bc2b7630="kingkongaintgotshitonme"]The mods and admins here are the ones responsible for this big mess. They even admitted that they went to ARG/Mpell with fraud accusationg. Check back in this thread some pages.

They dont give two shits about any of you. They just make money off of you.[/quote94bc2b7630]
Speaking of lulz... roll

Doylnea, have you guys been keeping money from me? If so then I'm banning all the staff too, provided I get there before they get to me first. BTW I'll be taking applications and bribes for new staff positions...


[quote94bc2b7630="kingkongaintgotshitonme"]
One more thing-
HELL YEAH, I just made this account, you keep fucking banning my ass.
I got to stay here somehow so I can keep reminding you mod's and admin's of your dumb-fuckness.
Ban me again you dumb fuck!

-Listking
-Listified
-Kingkonaintgotshitonme Bitches[/quote94bc2b7630]
For the record I've not banned any of those other accounts to my knowledge, but I'll be happy to ban this one, and the next one I find, and the next one. When I get bored with it, I'm sure another staff member will step in. Have fun being a child, though, it's real cute and endearing!

chewy

31-03-2009 13:11:22

no letter here yet, im in NY

RyanG

31-03-2009 13:12:07

kim responded saying to just wait for my check from mpell and not worry about the multiple e-mail addresses.

LucaBella

31-03-2009 13:21:59

DMorris... I wanna be your dog.. I mean.. staff. hire me! I won't do anything, or be responsible at all, but... I've got good mojo.

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 13:27:05

well atleast attendance is up for the DIY section

doylnea

31-03-2009 13:28:48

[quote056cbb4a6d="steveyankee"]werd to the secret forum[/quote056cbb4a6d]

Yeah, the Vault at FYB is where its at.

dubbin87

31-03-2009 13:29:16

[quote0d6250e994="RolltheStampede"]well atleast attendance is up for the DIY section[/quote0d6250e994]

yeah, gotta look on the bright side of things..

hawke12

31-03-2009 13:31:32

[quotec02445e19b="Getstuff4free Kyle"]So these letters are getting sent via USPS? I'm asking because I moved about a month ago (after I sent back the certs) so I don't know if it will be forwarded or not.[/quotec02445e19b]

I'm not sure if they will forward a Certified Letter, But I do KNow that your forwarded mail is behind from 5-7day's as We just moved a couple of weeks ago. and just started getting forwarded stuff about 6 days ago.

PLus I just called MPELL before we Moved and they changed my Info, and she specifically said the address change would NOT have any affect on my reward.

)

Also, for the topic at hand, I had login issues with my 2 sites.

I emailed a ticket from both sites, which each has it's OWN Email addy, and "KIM" responded within an hour, and said my accounts were still there, to try logging in again, nothing about being DQ'd at all.

Now, I can login in fine on one site, the other is still giving me issues. But I got the same response for each one.

steveyankee

31-03-2009 13:41:20

[quote53343b0921="doylnea"][quote53343b0921="steveyankee"]werd to the secret forum[/quote53343b0921]

Yeah, the Vault at FYB is where its at.[/quote53343b0921]

Funny thing is, I have never been to FYB.

JANGALANG32

31-03-2009 13:42:25

has anybody that got a letter heard back from brandarama? a lot of things with brandarama dont make sense. why wouldnt they just DQ people without giving 10 days to state their case? you either broke the rules or you didnt, right? why the 10 days? i personally believe their wasnt many rules to break.

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 13:45:42

[quotee626970330="steveyankee"][quotee626970330="doylnea"][quotee626970330="steveyankee"]werd to the secret forum[/quotee626970330]

Yeah, the Vault at FYB is where its at.[/quotee626970330]

Funny thing is, I have never been to FYB.[/quotee626970330]

yeah most likely the GC Addicts LOL

steveyankee

31-03-2009 13:47:05

GC? Fuck, it took me a few days to figure out what FYB is.

All I know is that OP > all

steveyankee

31-03-2009 13:47:18

wait wat

ILoveToys

31-03-2009 13:49:21

[quote341d2078e6="JANGALANG32"][quote341d2078e6="oleus"]regardless of what some people have done to get DQ letters, the simple fact remains that they should have DQ'd people BEFORE Mpell sent out certificates saying "you have met the requirements - go buy stuff!"

that is why in my opinion, anyone who received one of those letters saying the requirements had been met who then went and purchased items may have some kind of case to get their money. may not be easy but it's worth a fight.

i think some of the people saying the DQ recipients are getting what they deserved are overlooking the fact that these people also received letters requiring them to purchase hundreds, and usually thousands of dollars worth of merchandise before moving forward.[/quote341d2078e6]

i agree with this guy...its one thing to DQ people but to tell them them they have met the requirements and to go out and spend money and then DQ them is wrong. i can see that being their downfall in this DQ mess.[/quote341d2078e6]

That's like saying b/c brandarama didn't catch them up front that any fraud is then justified and should have no consequences?

To me it would genius to know that people were frauding, and tell them they have qualified so that they spend the money, and then nail them with their fraud. Actually the idea makes me laugh....

zr2152

31-03-2009 13:53:35

[quote55cf9ce3d6="ILoveToys"][quote55cf9ce3d6="JANGALANG32"][quote55cf9ce3d6="oleus"]regardless of what some people have done to get DQ letters, the simple fact remains that they should have DQ'd people BEFORE Mpell sent out certificates saying "you have met the requirements - go buy stuff!"

that is why in my opinion, anyone who received one of those letters saying the requirements had been met who then went and purchased items may have some kind of case to get their money. may not be easy but it's worth a fight.

i think some of the people saying the DQ recipients are getting what they deserved are overlooking the fact that these people also received letters requiring them to purchase hundreds, and usually thousands of dollars worth of merchandise before moving forward.[/quote55cf9ce3d6]

i agree with this guy...its one thing to DQ people but to tell them them they have met the requirements and to go out and spend money and then DQ them is wrong. i can see that being their downfall in this DQ mess.[/quote55cf9ce3d6]

That's like saying b/c brandarama didn't catch them up front that any fraud is then justified and should have no consequences?

To me it would genius to know that people were frauding, and tell them they have qualified so that they spend the money, and then nail them with their fraud. Actually the idea makes me laugh....[/quote55cf9ce3d6]


geezeee all they wanted to do is boost the economy. Give them a break..

jtackman

31-03-2009 13:55:34

I think a personal visit to their office delivering the papers should work ) Thats exactly what i am going to do too. I'll also list mpell as a defendant.

fesicnet

31-03-2009 13:57:12

[quote4488caaf58="ILoveToys"][quote4488caaf58="JANGALANG32"][quote4488caaf58="oleus"]regardless of what some people have done to get DQ letters, the simple fact remains that they should have DQ'd people BEFORE Mpell sent out certificates saying "you have met the requirements - go buy stuff!"

that is why in my opinion, anyone who received one of those letters saying the requirements had been met who then went and purchased items may have some kind of case to get their money. may not be easy but it's worth a fight.

i think some of the people saying the DQ recipients are getting what they deserved are overlooking the fact that these people also received letters requiring them to purchase hundreds, and usually thousands of dollars worth of merchandise before moving forward.[/quote4488caaf58]

i agree with this guy...its one thing to DQ people but to tell them them they have met the requirements and to go out and spend money and then DQ them is wrong. i can see that being their downfall in this DQ mess.[/quote4488caaf58]

That's like saying b/c brandarama didn't catch them up front that any fraud is then justified and should have no consequences?

To me it would genius to know that people were frauding, and tell them they have qualified so that they spend the money, and then nail them with their fraud. Actually the idea makes me laugh....[/quote4488caaf58]

I may make them laugh to, the problem is people depended on the money. That is more then likely how the courts will view the situation. You can not lead people to believe that if they take certain actions, they will receive something without following through. That would be deception and fraud. People may have an action against AIG not just for breach of contract but also under tort law.

But this is all assuming that the individuals did not commit fraud or violate the contract. If so AIG can go after them for breach of contract and if there is fraud involved possible under tort law.

ILoveToys

31-03-2009 13:57:21

[quote56d137e739="jtackman"]I think a personal visit to their office delivering the papers should work ) Thats exactly what i am going to do too. I'll also list mpell as a defendant.[/quote56d137e739]

Why exactly did they say you got a letter?

jtackman

31-03-2009 14:00:45

I said it before and won't bother saying it again as i don't need your michigan input..

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 14:01:01

[quotec3d2dbbde4="fesicnet"][quotec3d2dbbde4="ILoveToys"][quotec3d2dbbde4="JANGALANG32"][quotec3d2dbbde4="oleus"]regardless of what some people have done to get DQ letters, the simple fact remains that they should have DQ'd people BEFORE Mpell sent out certificates saying "you have met the requirements - go buy stuff!"

that is why in my opinion, anyone who received one of those letters saying the requirements had been met who then went and purchased items may have some kind of case to get their money. may not be easy but it's worth a fight.

i think some of the people saying the DQ recipients are getting what they deserved are overlooking the fact that these people also received letters requiring them to purchase hundreds, and usually thousands of dollars worth of merchandise before moving forward.[/quotec3d2dbbde4]

i agree with this guy...its one thing to DQ people but to tell them them they have met the requirements and to go out and spend money and then DQ them is wrong. i can see that being their downfall in this DQ mess.[/quotec3d2dbbde4]

That's like saying b/c brandarama didn't catch them up front that any fraud is then justified and should have no consequences?

To me it would genius to know that people were frauding, and tell them they have qualified so that they spend the money, and then nail them with their fraud. Actually the idea makes me laugh....[/quotec3d2dbbde4]

I may make them laugh to, the problem is people depended on the money. That is more then likely how the courts will view the situation. You can not lead people to believe that if they take certain actions, they will receive something without following through. That would be deception and fraud. People may have an action against AIG not just for breach of contract but also under tort law.

But this is all assuming that the individuals did not commit fraud or violate the contract. If so AIG can go after them for breach of contract and if there is fraud involved possible under tort law.[/quotec3d2dbbde4]

AIG?
the government is taking care of them LOL

fesicnet

31-03-2009 14:05:16

Sorry not AIG. I meant ARG, Active Response Group, Brandarama's parent company

ILoveToys

31-03-2009 14:08:49

[quote74e916bae5="jtackman"]I said it before and won't bother saying it again as i don't need your michigan input..[/quote74e916bae5]

Really?? What could sharing the info hurt?

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 14:10:47

I know im just bustin your balls a little bit
"Now go home and get your shinebox"

klangy

31-03-2009 14:23:02

[quote4fadea77d9="RolltheStampede"]I know im just bustin your balls a little bit
"Now go home and get your shinebox"[/quote4fadea77d9]

Goodfellas-Ha Ha Love It

kwoodyk34k

31-03-2009 15:03:18

Nothing in Illinois for me today.
So who is the farthest west person to get one?

Also, someone who received an e-mail from the ARG fraud department should paste it to MPELL and ask if that means they aren't getting the money for the certificates already submitted and see what they have to say about it.

SkatingCrippled

31-03-2009 15:15:48

sigh

Just to clear things up, that wasn't me posting the last few pages. It's amazing how immature some people can be.

So no, that wasn't me flaming; that wasn't me provoking fights; and it wasn't me being a douche bag.

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 15:18:45

[quotea028c600d6="SkatingCrippled"]sigh

Just to clear things up, that wasn't me posting the last few pages. It's amazing how immature some people can be.

So no, that wasn't me flaming; that wasn't me provoking fights; and it wasn't me being a douche bag.[/quotea028c600d6]

Didnt we ban you already, J/K we know what happened.

The other Skating was on their "Period"

Dudum bum Chiiii

SkatingCrippled

31-03-2009 15:27:32

Oh also, this is for the user who commented on the "crippled" part of my username at least three times during this thread.

No, I'm not crippled. I came up with the username about four years ago when I broke my leg skateboarding. I was in a wheelchair for awhile, and the username, "skatingcrippled" sounded about right.

I'm sorry if you feel offended by it; but I think that you're blowing it out of proportion. By no means am I making fun of cripples, or anything in that context.

RyanG

31-03-2009 15:51:10

Yup, received a letter. Appears it was for multiple e-mails as no offers are duplicated. Already sent my rebuttal )

RolltheStampede

31-03-2009 15:57:14

[quoteab7d22c182="RyanG"]Yup, received a letter. Appears it was for multiple e-mails as no offers are duplicated. Already sent my rebuttal )[/quoteab7d22c182]

what did you tell them, they didnt have rules about emails?

Zags1199

31-03-2009 16:02:18

[quote976d280574="RyanG"]Yup, received a letter. Appears it was for multiple e-mails as no offers are duplicated. Already sent my rebuttal )[/quote976d280574]

Let us know what happens/the response they give you.

oleus

31-03-2009 16:03:42

[quotee9aa7ed9ff="RolltheStampede"][quotee9aa7ed9ff="RyanG"]Yup, received a letter. Appears it was for multiple e-mails as no offers are duplicated. Already sent my rebuttal )[/quotee9aa7ed9ff]

what did you tell them, they didnt have rules about emails?[/quotee9aa7ed9ff]

i don't think that was a rule, as long as you didn't use different emails within one reward umbrella, like using different emails under Yourtopbrands specifically.

but what about using different emails accross different reward umbrellas (like a different one for yourtopbrands than brandarama) - i thought that was ok as long as you didn't repeat offers.

ryan g - how many did you use and was it under different offer umbrellas or the same?

Zags1199

31-03-2009 16:05:22

There wasn't a rule about e-mail addresses at all.

tp24

31-03-2009 16:05:49

[quote7f4e763061="RyanG"]Yup, received a letter. Appears it was for multiple e-mails as no offers are duplicated. Already sent my rebuttal )[/quote7f4e763061]

You're in CA?

RyanG

31-03-2009 16:09:37

[quote77fca6ad49="tp24"][quote77fca6ad49="RyanG"]Yup, received a letter. Appears it was for multiple e-mails as no offers are duplicated. Already sent my rebuttal )[/quote77fca6ad49]

You're in CA?[/quote77fca6ad49]

No, good (ha) old Michigan.

kwoodyk34k

31-03-2009 16:23:52

Okay, so let's try to organize this.
Who received their letters TODAY and where from?

So

RyanG - Michigan

who else?

EDIT Also, something I just thought of. If multiple e-mails were always against the rules then how come when Brandarama called me a month ago to offer to cut me a 20% check after I complained to MPELL, why did the woman on the phone recite my 3 e-mail addresses to me as she was reading off what I was owed?

IIRC it went something along the lines of, "okay i see you have $____ under email==_____@yahoo.com_____@yahoo.com=_____@yahoo.com_____@yahoo.com/email and $________ under email==_______@gmail.com_______@gmail.com=_______@gmail.com_______@gmail.com/email and $_________ under ______ @gmail.com. We could write you a check for 20% of the total gift value for whatever you can't complete MPELL certificates for."

jtackman

31-03-2009 16:45:41

I'm sure if we all submit ripoff reports about mpell, they will say something to brand as well. that could help things. they might sue arg if this causes enough mess

RyanG

31-03-2009 16:54:09

I'm hoping things can just be resolved via e-mail. I'm sure it's just another step to weed out of paying some people. I was only confirmed for 4 sites so I don't see how I was one of the big fish. Oh well, I'll keep my status updated.

jtackman

31-03-2009 17:01:23

i dont think so, not with all the trouble they went through to make those excel charts and such. they aren't joking this time..

RyanG

31-03-2009 17:04:32

It's a pretty simple spread sheet.

Search Database --> First and Last name

Export to Excel

Less than a minute to do this. Especially since the backend is probably Access.

NastyNinja

31-03-2009 17:33:32

My uncle works for ARG so I am just going to talk to him tomorrow.

manOFice

31-03-2009 17:37:05

[quote40e1f526f7="NastyNinja"]My uncle works for ARG so I am just going to talk to him tomorrow.[/quote40e1f526f7]

sounds like you got a hook up on the inside... find out some info for us

Eeyore

31-03-2009 18:29:27

His uncle's name is probably "Kim".

SkatingCrippled

31-03-2009 18:41:57

[quoteb9f3691519="Eeyore"]His uncle's name is probably "Kim".[/quoteb9f3691519]

Or "freeipodplayer."

oleus

31-03-2009 18:50:07

to anyone who received a letter today - was it also shipped from NYC on friday?

trying to figure out if i'm "safe" here in Georgia if it doesn't come tomorrow (still not expecting to see any money because i've been a pessimist from the start).

RyanG

31-03-2009 18:51:03

It's dated March 27th, 2009.

marbs4life

31-03-2009 18:56:03

[quoteed98126c32="SkatingCrippled"][quoteed98126c32="Eeyore"]His uncle's name is probably "Kim".[/quoteed98126c32]

Or "freeipodplayer."[/quoteed98126c32]

Did you switch boyfriends? Earlier you were talking about your man love, Chris Webber? Should I quote what you said?

oleus

31-03-2009 19:07:30

[quote7fa25604ad="RyanG"]It's dated March 27th, 2009.[/quote7fa25604ad]

that follows the "all shipped out on friday" model....

still until tomorrow passes i won't feel any better about it.

tiffrnwhitney

31-03-2009 19:12:44

My cousins was shipped on march 25th mine was march 26th, I'm in nc she's in michigan

I meant to add that those are the post marked dates

oleus

31-03-2009 19:15:37

[quote7164fe1d44="tiffrnwhitney"]My cousins was shipped on march 25th mine was march 26th, I'm in nc she's in michigan

I meant to add that those are the post marked dates[/quote7164fe1d44]

ok, that kills the "all shipped out on friday" model!

Getstuff4free Kyle

31-03-2009 19:32:45

[quotea531f0948d="marbs4life"][quotea531f0948d="SkatingCrippled"][quotea531f0948d="Eeyore"]His uncle's name is probably "Kim".[/quotea531f0948d]

Or "freeipodplayer."[/quotea531f0948d]

Did you switch boyfriends? Earlier you were talking about your man love, Chris Webber? Should I quote what you said?[/quotea531f0948d]

Don't forget to quote all the parts where it was established that that was a troll who added a period to the end of his name and stole his avatar.

kwoodyk34k

31-03-2009 20:50:46

What if this whole time Kim has been an Asian man.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.. just not what I pictured.

steveyankee

31-03-2009 21:13:09

[quoted4e3dd8754="oleus"][quoted4e3dd8754="tiffrnwhitney"]My cousins was shipped on march 25th mine was march 26th, I'm in nc she's in michigan

I meant to add that those are the post marked dates[/quoted4e3dd8754]

ok, that kills the "all shipped out on friday" model![/quoted4e3dd8754]

It could still be that way. Unless the letter was dated March 26th.

I say that because March 26th was a Sunday, and USPS is closed that day.

bruman

31-03-2009 21:33:09

RTS made a good point.. those who received letters should find out the answer to it -- does the letter disqualify you from current mpell rebates or just from pursuing sites in the future?

Then again it also says in the letter they can take legal action to take back gifts already given (which is ridiculous, but still)!

oleus

31-03-2009 23:14:54

[quote642410366c="steveyankee"][quote642410366c="oleus"][quote642410366c="tiffrnwhitney"]My cousins was shipped on march 25th mine was march 26th, I'm in nc she's in michigan

I meant to add that those are the post marked dates[/quote642410366c]

ok, that kills the "all shipped out on friday" model![/quote642410366c]

It could still be that way. Unless the letter was dated March 26th.

I say that because March 26th was a Sunday, and USPS is closed that day.[/quote642410366c]

march 26 was wednesday

anyway i'm not sure why i even said "friday shipment" as a theory, some people got theirs on friday so it had to all start before that. unlikely they all went out at once so there is no "safety" zone until we get several days where none were received by anyone.

ashilef

01-04-2009 00:13:30

[quotea5f33425f2="oleus"][quotea5f33425f2="steveyankee"][quotea5f33425f2="oleus"][quotea5f33425f2="tiffrnwhitney"]My cousins was shipped on march 25th mine was march 26th, I'm in nc she's in michigan

I meant to add that those are the post marked dates[/quotea5f33425f2]

ok, that kills the "all shipped out on friday" model![/quotea5f33425f2]

It could still be that way. Unless the letter was dated March 26th.

I say that because March 26th was a Sunday, and USPS is closed that day.[/quotea5f33425f2]

march 26 was wednesday

anyway i'm not sure why i even said "friday shipment" as a theory, some people got theirs on friday so it had to all start before that. unlikely they all went out at once so there is no "safety" zone until we get several days where none were received by anyone.[/quotea5f33425f2]

No you're actually both wrong it was a Thursday...

LucaBella

01-04-2009 03:43:52

Which is pretty stunning....

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 06:19:26

who cares about the ship date..what would be more telling to me is the date the 10 days starts to fight the DQ. thats the date i want to know..if all of those are the same then we know we should be ok. its already been close to 10 days if you count the few days of shipping. has anyone heard back that has tried to fight the DQ?

steveyankee

01-04-2009 06:46:53

Doh, didn't realize it was already April when I looked at the date on my computer.

marbs4life

01-04-2009 06:54:43

[quote3792f6eec3="JANGALANG32"]who cares about the ship date..what would be more telling to me is the date the 10 days starts to fight the DQ. thats the date i want to know..if all of those are the same then we know we should be ok. its already been close to 10 days if you count the few days of shipping. has anyone heard back that has tried to fight the DQ?[/quote3792f6eec3]

No responses to the four people I know who received one. (myself included)

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 07:40:29

[quote49ec7f36ec="marbs4life"][quote49ec7f36ec="JANGALANG32"]who cares about the ship date..what would be more telling to me is the date the 10 days starts to fight the DQ. thats the date i want to know..if all of those are the same then we know we should be ok. its already been close to 10 days if you count the few days of shipping. has anyone heard back that has tried to fight the DQ?[/quote49ec7f36ec]

No responses to the four people I know who received one. (myself included)[/quote49ec7f36ec]

what did you write them? did you say there was no rules on on how many emails and repeating offers?

marbs4life

01-04-2009 07:47:37

[quote8f8ce51cad="JANGALANG32"][quote8f8ce51cad="marbs4life"][quote8f8ce51cad="JANGALANG32"]who cares about the ship date..what would be more telling to me is the date the 10 days starts to fight the DQ. thats the date i want to know..if all of those are the same then we know we should be ok. its already been close to 10 days if you count the few days of shipping. has anyone heard back that has tried to fight the DQ?[/quote8f8ce51cad]

No responses to the four people I know who received one. (myself included)[/quote8f8ce51cad]

what did you write them? did you say there was no rules on on how many emails and repeating offers?[/quote8f8ce51cad]

I wrote mine under the help of my lawyer. Waiting for a response.

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 08:51:15

[quote71be68b02b="marbs4life"][quote71be68b02b="JANGALANG32"][quote71be68b02b="marbs4life"][quote71be68b02b="JANGALANG32"]who cares about the ship date..what would be more telling to me is the date the 10 days starts to fight the DQ. thats the date i want to know..if all of those are the same then we know we should be ok. its already been close to 10 days if you count the few days of shipping. has anyone heard back that has tried to fight the DQ?[/quote71be68b02b]

No responses to the four people I know who received one. (myself included)[/quote71be68b02b]

what did you write them? did you say there was no rules on on how many emails and repeating offers?[/quote71be68b02b]

I wrote mine under the help of my lawyer. Waiting for a response.[/quote71be68b02b]

good move..what was your letter for? multiple emails and sponsor offers? it would seem to me that if they let 1 person off they have to let everyone off. maybe you will be the savior for a lot of people. was your for multiple emails and offers?

dmorris68

01-04-2009 09:17:43

[quote2e525f8a45="JANGALANG32"]it would seem to me that if they let 1 person off they have to let everyone off. maybe you will be the savior for a lot of people. was your for multiple emails and offers?[/quote2e525f8a45]
That's a pretty naive expectation though. Unless a court orders such as part of a class action judgment or settlement, the squeaky wheel is usually the only one to get the grease. They don't lihaveli to do anything for anyone else that isn't court ordered, and typically won't if they aren't forced to.

I would suggest that anyone who honestly feels they have a ligenuineli legal claim against ARG or anyone else, to pursue that independently or as part of a recognized class, rather than expecting to float along and enjoy the same relief that others might win through their own efforts.

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 09:27:46

[quote5caa1b0948="dmorris68"][quote5caa1b0948="JANGALANG32"]it would seem to me that if they let 1 person off they have to let everyone off. maybe you will be the savior for a lot of people. was your for multiple emails and offers?[/quote5caa1b0948]
That's a pretty naive expectation though. Unless a court orders such as part of a class action judgment or settlement, the squeaky wheel is usually the only one to get the grease. They don't lihaveli to do anything for anyone else that isn't court ordered, and typically won't if they aren't forced to.

I would suggest that anyone who honestly feels they have a ligenuineli legal claim against ARG or anyone else, to pursue that independently or as part of a recognized class, rather than expecting to float along and enjoy the same relief that others might win through their own efforts.[/quote5caa1b0948]

you read way too much into it...i was saying if he disputes his DQ and they reinstate him due to the fact that there was nothing said about doing the same sponsors and using 2 emails then we would all be in the clear. i didnt say anything about judges and court orders. thats a whole different level that many probably wont take it to. if we know he is cleared then we all will know we can be cleared also.

dmorris68

01-04-2009 09:33:12

[quotee37fa02a9e="JANGALANG32"][quotee37fa02a9e="dmorris68"][quotee37fa02a9e="JANGALANG32"]it would seem to me that if they let 1 person off they have to let everyone off. maybe you will be the savior for a lot of people. was your for multiple emails and offers?[/quotee37fa02a9e]
That's a pretty naive expectation though. Unless a court orders such as part of a class action judgment or settlement, the squeaky wheel is usually the only one to get the grease. They don't lihaveli to do anything for anyone else that isn't court ordered, and typically won't if they aren't forced to.

I would suggest that anyone who honestly feels they have a ligenuineli legal claim against ARG or anyone else, to pursue that independently or as part of a recognized class, rather than expecting to float along and enjoy the same relief that others might win through their own efforts.[/quotee37fa02a9e]

you read way too much into it...i was saying if he disputes his DQ and they reinstate him due to the fact that there was nothing said about doing the same sponsors and using 2 emails then we would all be in the clear. i didnt say anything about judges and court orders. thats a whole different level that many probably wont take it to. if we know he is cleared then we all will know we can be cleared also.[/quotee37fa02a9e]
True, as long as you do the legwork yourself. While I did focus on the legal aspect of courts and judgments, the same also applies to just convincing ARG to rule in your favor. One person convincing them and getting paid is not likely to help anyone else who also doesn't do the same. I guess I just misinterpreted your post as something along the lines of "if they do it for you, then they'll have to do it for everyone else, even those who don't fight it."

janarae

01-04-2009 09:36:12

Here in Ohio & no DQ letter for me. I did play by the rules & am expecting about 4K. The only reason I could think of for them to DQ me was that I did do the Entertainment Book 2x but it was for different years, one the 2007, the other for 08 so it should be classified as two separate offers I hope.

oleus

01-04-2009 09:55:14

mailman alert - central GA

NO LETTER

steveyankee

01-04-2009 09:57:08

[quote7cea8318b0="janarae"]Here in Ohio & no DQ letter for me. I did play by the rules & am expecting about 4K. The only reason I could think of for them to DQ me was that I did do the Entertainment Book 2x but it was for different years, one the 2007, the other for 08 so it should be classified as two separate offers I hope.[/quote7cea8318b0]

I'm in Ohio too, and am also expecting $4,000. Are you my twin brother?! shock

And oh, no letter so far. liknock on woodli

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 11:18:39

i got my letter today for multiple email addresses. sent on the 27th...time to fight it

Eeyore

01-04-2009 11:21:34

Mail time No Letter (chicagoland)

supafreak00

01-04-2009 11:35:13

[quote5d4f911550="JANGALANG32"]i got my letter today for multiple email addresses. sent on the 27th...time to fight it[/quote5d4f911550]

Where are you at?

manOFice

01-04-2009 11:47:32

[quote3cd39096f2="JANGALANG32"]i got my letter today for multiple email addresses. sent on the 27th...time to fight it[/quote3cd39096f2]

so clear up something

Did you complete say the same $500 lowes giftcard site with multiple email address's and didn't fraud any offers

Or did you complete say .. $500 lowes with one email address and then completed a $500 best buy card with a different email address

snarky

01-04-2009 11:51:55

spoke to someone at Mpell, who told me that I was processed on 2-2. I asked when I would be recieving anything, and he told me to call ARG because they are now answering any calls about payment.

So, I called ARG, the lady said that in a perfect world they would be sent in 8-10 weeks, but there have been bumps in the road with all the audits because they found several "scams" (her words) where people would use dif. email addresses, sign up for the same site, and complete the same offers. So when they are done with all the audits (she does not know how long that process will take, so there are more coming I would guess), they will pay Mpell who will then pay us...supposedly.

manOFice

01-04-2009 12:04:53

[quotef01fc358a9="snarky"]spoke to someone at Mpell, who told me that I was processed on 2-2. I asked when I would be recieving anything, and he told me to call ARG because they are now answering any calls about payment.

So, I called ARG, the lady said that in a perfect world they would be sent in 8-10 weeks, but there have been bumps in the road with all the audits because they found several "scams" (her words) where people would use dif. email addresses, sign up for the same site, and complete the same offers. So when they are done with all the audits (she does not know how long that process will take, so there are more coming I would guess), they will pay Mpell who will then pay us...supposedly.[/quotef01fc358a9]

Thanks for the good info, to bad for us waiting though, sounds like 8-10 weeks are going to turn into 1-2 more years

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 12:06:03

[quoteb79599b318="manOFice"][quoteb79599b318="JANGALANG32"]i got my letter today for multiple email addresses. sent on the 27th...time to fight it[/quoteb79599b318]

so clear up something

Did you complete say the same $500 lowes giftcard site with multiple email address's and didn't fraud any offers

Or did you complete say .. $500 lowes with one email address and then completed a $500 best buy card with a different email address[/quoteb79599b318]

i had 1 email address for about 2 years. used a new email address for a few offers about 8 months ago. never signed up for the same gift twice.

oleus

01-04-2009 12:14:47

[quotec616f7fec4="snarky"]spoke to someone at Mpell, who told me that I was processed on 2-2. I asked when I would be recieving anything, and he told me to call ARG because they are now answering any calls about payment.

So, I called ARG, the lady said that in a perfect world they would be sent in 8-10 weeks, but there have been bumps in the road with all the audits because they found several "scams" (her words) where people would use dif. email addresses, sign up for the same site, and complete the same offers. So when they are done with all the audits (she does not know how long that process will take, so there are more coming I would guess), they will pay Mpell who will then pay us...supposedly.[/quotec616f7fec4]

this means no one is getting anything anytime remotely soon. no matter if they used one email address or not. "we don't know how long the audits will take"

getting Mpell involved with this and then having them require us to buy items makes my blood boil.

Mpell can refer us back to ARG all they want but THEY are the ones who sent us those certificates....they have to be accountable for this BS.

people who played by the rules and did everything "right" are now back to the ARG waiting game/drawing board.

this is f'ing ridiculous.

marbs4life

01-04-2009 12:15:31

Friend got one in NH today....

NOBODY is in the clear for these certs.

fanofpurple

01-04-2009 12:21:16

[quote9ee63351b0="oleus"][quote9ee63351b0="snarky"]spoke to someone at Mpell, who told me that I was processed on 2-2. I asked when I would be recieving anything, and he told me to call ARG because they are now answering any calls about payment.

So, I called ARG, the lady said that in a perfect world they would be sent in 8-10 weeks, but there have been bumps in the road with all the audits because they found several "scams" (her words) where people would use dif. email addresses, sign up for the same site, and complete the same offers. So when they are done with all the audits (she does not know how long that process will take, so there are more coming I would guess), they will pay Mpell who will then pay us...supposedly.[/quote9ee63351b0]

this means no one is getting anything anytime remotely soon. no matter if they used one email address or not. "we don't know how long the audits will take"

getting Mpell involved with this and then having them require us to buy items makes my blood boil.

Mpell can refer us back to ARG all they want but THEY are the ones who sent us those certificates....they have to be accountable for this BS.

people who played by the rules and did everything "right" are now back to the ARG waiting game/drawing board.

this is f'ing ridiculous.[/quote9ee63351b0]

What sucks is that the ENVELOPE was from MPell - the actual paper itself - was signed (just typed) with the ARG site name at the closing of the letter. So that paper makes it look like it was ARG all along.

oleus

01-04-2009 12:24:17

edited in light of above post - good point. I am feeling more and more like an idiot for going out and buying the items to get reimbursed for. luckily it was stuff I needed and was going to have to buy anyway, but it still sucks.

this was all well thought-out and calculated and if i get a DQ letter I will be visiting a lawyer. there is something just WAY too fishy about Mpell/ARG requiring us to buy items up front after stating WE HAVE MET REQUIREMENTS!!!!! And now this?? trying to DQ people for using a different email address for a different site's set of rewards and not repeating offers!?!

if i get a letter, to me it's worth spending anything i might have receievd on a lawyer in hopes of breaking even just to fight this. what they've done to us is criminal IMHO.

RyanG

01-04-2009 12:30:37

Don't understand why the audit couldn't of been done BEFORE the Mpell stuff. Obviously still would of fought it but wouldn't of been freaking out about $2000 on my CC just sitting there.

oleus

01-04-2009 12:32:29

i'd like to think "it will be interesting to see what ARG says in response" but for some reason, i don't think it will be interesting, just infuriating.

there HAS to be something illegal about the way they went about this. they got out of paying ALOT of people by imposing the mpell 30-day buying requirement. then on top of that they rescind on the "you have met requirements" for that after many of us went out and bought the items by backtracking with the approval process, something that they should have done at the very BEGINNING of the process (like BEFORE confirming to ship 2+ years ago!)

ohboyitsryan

01-04-2009 12:41:36

haven't posted on here that much, mostly just read but now I am compelled to share my thoughts. having people tricked into thinking they were approved and then DQing them is terrible. but I dont understand why this audit process wasn't initiated during week one of this Mpell issue. it seems to be pretty simple to weed out multiple email/offer/gift users. it's just too coincidental that this audit process occured days into the 8-10 week window for the first round of check fulfillment. this is really unfortunate for those who haven't committed 'fraud' (per ARG). they know who they are going to DQ, so why cant they ship checks to those who did everything by the book (ARGs retroactive book that is). we just can't seem to get a break...

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 12:45:23

this needs to be a group effort...a 1 on 1 legal case isnt going to win. it needs to be everyone that got a letter so the amount owed is in the hundread thousands or millions. who knows..someone needs to direct a lawyer to this thread in the hopes they will help out. i dont think any checks are going to be sent out anytime soon

jtackman

01-04-2009 12:46:23

I have 11k in credit cards i gotta pay off in 3-4 months. mostly from my business which is sucking wind right now. damn arg. Oh well, its an LLC so i can just default and not worry about my personal credit. heh

ashilef

01-04-2009 12:48:28

[quote986613f459="ohboyitsryan"]haven't posted on here that much, mostly just read but now I am compelled to share my thoughts. having people tricked into thinking they were approved and then DQing them is terrible. but I dont understand why this audit process wasn't initiated during week one of this Mpell issue. it seems to be pretty simple to weed out multiple email/offer/gift users. it's just too coincidental that this audit process occured days into the 8-10 week window for the first round of check fulfillment. this is really unfortunate for those who haven't committed 'fraud' (per ARG). they know who they are going to DQ, so why cant they ship checks to those who did everything by the book (ARGs retroactive book that is). we just can't seem to get a break...[/quote986613f459]

I agree! I'm sure they already have an idea of who the "scammers" are, so why make those who have already been cleared wait even longer for their money? Also shame on ARG for not having some type of fraud prevention in place like TWO YEARS AGO when people were completing their sites. Seems to me this company just does everything on the fly and comes up with stuff as they go to benefit them.

oleus

01-04-2009 12:51:47

i know mpell is referring us back to ARG now, but since they seem to care how they are seen as a company they may be our only hope in seeing any of our money since they WERE involved in this whether they like it or not now.

manOFice

01-04-2009 12:52:05

[quotebf826dd7eb="JANGALANG32"][quotebf826dd7eb="manOFice"][quotebf826dd7eb="JANGALANG32"]i got my letter today for multiple email addresses. sent on the 27th...time to fight it[/quotebf826dd7eb]

so clear up something

Did you complete say the same $500 lowes giftcard site with multiple email address's and didn't fraud any offers

Or did you complete say .. $500 lowes with one email address and then completed a $500 best buy card with a different email address[/quotebf826dd7eb]

i had 1 email address for about 2 years. used a new email address for a few offers about 8 months ago. never signed up for the same gift twice.[/quotebf826dd7eb]

so you used one email address for 2 years while doing brandarama sites. Then you got a new email address and used all your same info and completed another brandarama site? The new email address that you used and signed up for a new site, was it by any chance on the same domain as one of your old sites you did?

bruman

01-04-2009 12:52:25

I just tried calling.. I told her I was waiting on an mpell reimbursement and wanted info regarding payment. She told me "all I can tell you is there has been some bumps in the process and to wait the 8-10 weeks", and I said "ok, so the 8-10 weeks still stands" and she said "yes, unless you received an audit".. I told her I didn't receive one and she said I was good to go.

So.. whatever you make of that shrug

Not that this CS is fully competent with what exactly is going on, but I still think we'll receive our checks soon (this month).

ashilef

01-04-2009 12:55:20

[quoteeef4991ff4="bruman"]I just tried calling.. I told her I was waiting on an mpell reimbursement and wanted info regarding payment. She told me "all I can tell you is there has been some bumps in the process and to wait the 8-10 weeks", and I said "ok, so the 8-10 weeks still stands" and she said "yes, unless you received an audit".. I told her I didn't receive one and she said I was good to go.

So.. whatever you make of that shrug

Not that this CS is fully competent with what exactly is going on, but I still think we'll receive our checks soon (this month).[/quoteeef4991ff4]

Well hopefully your optimism will rub off on me, because at this point I've pretty much given up the hope of seeing my money anytime soon.

oleus

01-04-2009 12:57:55

so they seem to like to call this a bump in the road....

we should start calling this "Bump in the Road '09"

if we get a big lawsuit going we can make tshirts.

like i said last week and was snickered at - sometimes the doom and gloom folks turn out to be right
cry

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 12:59:10

[quote55c353b3e8="manOFice"][quote55c353b3e8="JANGALANG32"][quote55c353b3e8="manOFice"][quote55c353b3e8="JANGALANG32"]i got my letter today for multiple email addresses. sent on the 27th...time to fight it[/quote55c353b3e8]

so clear up something

Did you complete say the same $500 lowes giftcard site with multiple email address's and didn't fraud any offers

Or did you complete say .. $500 lowes with one email address and then completed a $500 best buy card with a different email address[/quote55c353b3e8]

i had 1 email address for about 2 years. used a new email address for a few offers about 8 months ago. never signed up for the same gift twice.
[/quote55c353b3e8]

so you used one email address for 2 years while doing brandarama sites. Then you got a new email address and used all your same info and completed another brandarama site? The new email address that you used and signed up for a new site, was it by any chance on the same domain as one of your old sites you did?[/quote55c353b3e8]

no, i used 1 email address for all of their sites and then 2 years later or so used another email address with a different address but same phone # for the same sites i already had an email address on. but i emailed customer support right after doing this and let them know i changed addresses and emails and they switched all of the 1st emails info over to the new info and said there was no problem with this. i still have the email and the support ticket # also which was included in the email to the audit department

bruman

01-04-2009 13:01:14

[quote110e030a49="ashilef"][quote110e030a49="bruman"]I just tried calling.. I told her I was waiting on an mpell reimbursement and wanted info regarding payment. She told me "all I can tell you is there has been some bumps in the process and to wait the 8-10 weeks", and I said "ok, so the 8-10 weeks still stands" and she said "yes, unless you received an audit".. I told her I didn't receive one and she said I was good to go.

So.. whatever you make of that shrug

Not that this CS is fully competent with what exactly is going on, but I still think we'll receive our checks soon (this month).[/quote110e030a49]

Well hopefully your optimism will rub off on me, because at this point I've pretty much given up the hope of seeing my money anytime soon.[/quote110e030a49]

I'm trying to look at it from a business perspective... I mean that's what they're doing. From a customers perspective I can see the cause of despair, but you have to understand how these companies work.

Even if they do take a hit on sending us checks.. with their new policy they are going to make huge profits out of their sites (especially on their yourproductsamples, which is probably the most advertised of all their sites, and has 2 offer boxes of oreos and splenda packets) along with their new cancellation policy.

ARG's main concern, as a business entity, is keeping itself alive. They are still advertising plenty, adding new offers (a few were added today), and so on. So unless they are forced to shut down by all the complaints and fines and legal matters that you guys inflict on them, they are going to be around and we'll get our money.

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 13:06:00

http//www.ireport.com/

someone should make a video and post it here. if the story is big enough it gets put on cnn. millions of dollars being scammed might be big enough

peanut123

01-04-2009 13:10:10

Sorry if this is a repeat post. On lunch break, no time to read all the previous posts before me.

I was told by MPELL that all matters regarding Active Response Group (ARG) are to be directed to ARG.

1-877-312-7263

The people at Mpell have been kept in the dark.

oleus

01-04-2009 13:13:01

i wonder if they're going through the audits with the first initial of the first name, like they used to with shipping order?

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 13:14:42

How is the mailing going so slowly?
We're not even in the central United States after 5 business days.
Isn't it supposed to be 2-5 business days, lol.

bruman

01-04-2009 13:15:23

[quote1ea2c27ff1="oleus"]i wonder if they're going through the audits with the first initial of the first name, like they used to with shipping order?[/quote1ea2c27ff1]

Probably in order of when they received your e-mail response.. I'm fairly confident that they are done sending out audit letters.

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 13:18:21

[quotef1154dc92f="bruman"][quotef1154dc92f="oleus"]i wonder if they're going through the audits with the first initial of the first name, like they used to with shipping order?[/quotef1154dc92f]

Probably in order of when they received your e-mail response.. I'm fairly confident that they are done sending out audit letters.[/quotef1154dc92f]

probably in order of who they owe the most

ohboyitsryan

01-04-2009 13:33:56

just got off the phone with Brandarama. lady informed me that if you haven't been audited, checks should go out next week. if you have been, it will take longer. let's wait the week out and see what's up in a few days...

bruman

01-04-2009 13:37:46

[quote18296d3f52="ohboyitsryan"]just got off the phone with Brandarama. lady informed me that if you haven't been audited, checks should go out next week. if you have been, it will take longer. let's wait the week out and see what's up in a few days...[/quote18296d3f52]

Checks for everybody that hasn't been audited? (in other words did you mention to her you had an early processing date with the mpell certificates)

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 13:44:45

this is what i see happening...if a audit letter didnt come for you your check will be mailed out in the next 2 weeks. if you did get an audit letter you will be offered a reduced payof off close to 20 cents on the dollar or nothing. the reason i think audit people will get a short payoff is because they wouldnt give people 10 days to state their case. they would of just been DQ'd and thats the end of it.

snarky

01-04-2009 13:50:44

[quote0a4b4f867d="bruman"][quote0a4b4f867d="oleus"]i wonder if they're going through the audits with the first initial of the first name, like they used to with shipping order?[/quote0a4b4f867d]

Probably in order of when they received your e-mail response.. I'm fairly confident that they are done sending out audit letters.[/quote0a4b4f867d]

why are you fairly confident?? I spoke with her today and was told, "I don't know when they will be done with the audit process."

chewy

01-04-2009 13:52:53

still no letter here in ny

jtackman

01-04-2009 13:53:34

10 or 20 cents on the dollar? What the hell am i supposed to do with that??

Zags1199

01-04-2009 13:54:32

Do you guys if you're talking to Kim on the phone, or is it someone else?

ohboyitsryan

01-04-2009 13:56:11

[quote7758757c7d="bruman"][quote7758757c7d="ohboyitsryan"]just got off the phone with Brandarama. lady informed me that if you haven't been audited, checks should go out next week. if you have been, it will take longer. let's wait the week out and see what's up in a few days...[/quote7758757c7d]

Checks for everybody that hasn't been audited? (in other words did you mention to her you had an early processing date with the mpell certificates)[/quote7758757c7d]

I assume that she meant the checks would begin shipping for the earliest confirmed people then daily/weekly thereafter. I did not mention that I had an early approval date, however. the call gave me a sense of relief, albeit minimal.

JANGALANG32

01-04-2009 14:01:13

[quote9247f86e36="jtackman"]10 or 20 cents on the dollar? What the hell am i supposed to do with that??[/quote9247f86e36]

if you have a lot of money owed to you, you can do a lot with it.

ohboyitsryan

01-04-2009 14:02:41

[quote94f85dfc17="Zags1199"]Do you guys if you're talking to Kim on the phone, or is it someone else?[/quote94f85dfc17]

it wasn't kim that I spoke with. it was a different woman.

RyanG

01-04-2009 14:03:12

There's a new gentlemen working there now - Darren is his/her alias )

manOFice

01-04-2009 14:17:44

[quoted632b441f4="RyanG"]There's a new gentlemen working there now - Darren is his/her alias )[/quoted632b441f4]

rip darren

fesicnet

01-04-2009 14:23:01

[quote4869f09bdc="ohboyitsryan"]just got off the phone with Brandarama. lady informed me that if you haven't been audited, checks should go out next week. if you have been, it will take longer. let's wait the week out and see what's up in a few days...[/quote4869f09bdc]

If this is true, then we should all just chill till next Friday. I strongly doubt much will change between now and then, but I we do receive checks CitiCard will be mighty happy.

RyanG

01-04-2009 14:26:27

[quote18e002793c="manOFice"][quote18e002793c="RyanG"]There's a new gentlemen working there now - Darren is his/her alias )[/quote18e002793c]

rip darren[/quote18e002793c]

lol so true. if he only knew

ghounds07

01-04-2009 14:46:19

[quote055576becf="oleus"]so they seem to like to call this a bump in the road....

we should start calling this "Bump in the Road '09"

if we get a big lawsuit going we can make tshirts.

like i said last week and was snickered at - sometimes the doom and gloom folks turn out to be right
cry[/quote055576becf]

hahaha

jtackman

01-04-2009 14:47:43

20 cents on dollar isn't going to go real far with me. i'd rather have nothing. i'll take no less than 50%

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 15:04:13

I'm safe for today in Illinois.
Although I sent in my MPELL certs in the last few days before the deadline so maybe they'll still get me.

Did everyone who got a letter send their certs in promptly?

manOFice

01-04-2009 16:16:00

[quotea7bd5a84d3="kwoodyk34k"]I'm safe for today in Illinois.
Although I sent in my MPELL certs in the last few days before the deadline so maybe they'll still get me.

Did everyone who got a letter send their certs in promptly?[/quotea7bd5a84d3]

I would say most people did

oleus

01-04-2009 16:25:26

[quote07de22e934="manOFice"][quote07de22e934="kwoodyk34k"]I'm safe for today in Illinois.
Although I sent in my MPELL certs in the last few days before the deadline so maybe they'll still get me.

Did everyone who got a letter send their certs in promptly?[/quote07de22e934]

I would say most people did[/quote07de22e934]

i sent my first couple of certificates in right at the start, but then staggered the next ones up until a few days before the deadline. not sure if that's gonna hurt me or not.

will be interesting to see how many letters are received thursday and friday, that will be a full week of DQ letters, and hopefully they'll be finished with this funny business.

neverendingmoolah

01-04-2009 16:34:21

this needs to be a group effort...a 1 on 1 legal case isnt going to win. it needs to be everyone that got a letter so the amount owed is in the hundread thousands or millions. who knows..someone needs to direct a lawyer to this thread in the hopes they will help out. i dont think any checks are going to be sent out anytime soon[/quote


A class action (group) action may not be what you think!!
If enough complaints are filed against ARG in different or the same jurisdictions the courts will order a class action to combine the lawsuits. The only problem with class actions lawsuits are typically the first few plaintiffs are paid a lump sum. The lawfirm receives the lion share of the settlement amount since they will file for lawyer's fees and disbursements they are entitled to receive for expenses they incur during the process of the lawsuit. If a judgment is entered against ARG the class will have to split the remainder of the settlement funds between 100, 200, 500, people, which will not likely equal $100 each. Some class actions settle with $1, $10 per class member. I personally would not join the class action because you can always opt out and file your own lawsuit!!

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 16:36:30

[quotee4a687224c="oleus"][quotee4a687224c="manOFice"][quotee4a687224c="kwoodyk34k"]I'm safe for today in Illinois.
Although I sent in my MPELL certs in the last few days before the deadline so maybe they'll still get me.

Did everyone who got a letter send their certs in promptly?[/quotee4a687224c]

I would say most people did[/quotee4a687224c]

i sent my first couple of certificates in right at the start, but then staggered the next ones up until a few days before the deadline. not sure if that's gonna hurt me or not.

will be interesting to see how many letters are received thursday and friday, that will be a full week of DQ letters, and hopefully they'll be finished with this funny business.[/quotee4a687224c]

I still don't see how no one west of Michigan has received one yet. How are they sending these? If the letters are all dated March 27 and some were even post-marked on the 25th and the 26th I don't understand.

Or maybe they're sending them out by geographical location.
jk ]

Or maybe no one on this forum lives on the west coast?

RolltheStampede

01-04-2009 16:42:16

there are a few Washington people here. Just no letters.

mariners1999

01-04-2009 16:43:21

[quote6f7c9fcdbd="kwoodyk34k"][quote6f7c9fcdbd="oleus"][quote6f7c9fcdbd="manOFice"][quote6f7c9fcdbd="kwoodyk34k"]I'm safe for today in Illinois.
Although I sent in my MPELL certs in the last few days before the deadline so maybe they'll still get me.

Did everyone who got a letter send their certs in promptly?[/quote6f7c9fcdbd]

I would say most people did[/quote6f7c9fcdbd]

i sent my first couple of certificates in right at the start, but then staggered the next ones up until a few days before the deadline. not sure if that's gonna hurt me or not.

will be interesting to see how many letters are received thursday and friday, that will be a full week of DQ letters, and hopefully they'll be finished with this funny business.[/quote6f7c9fcdbd]

I still don't see how no one west of Michigan has received one yet. How are they sending these? If the letters are all dated March 27 and some were even post-marked on the 25th and the 26th I don't understand.

Or maybe they're sending them out by geographical location.
jk ]

Or maybe no one on this forum lives on the west coast?[/quote6f7c9fcdbd]


West coast here............ Still nothing but like I said I should not get one as I used the same email address throughout the websites and only had one repeat and it was clever clasp.

steveyankee

01-04-2009 17:04:59

Actually, there are some in IL that got theirs, and some way east of here in MA got theirs.

It's only been a day since the IL people got theirs, so I expect by Friday that those on the west coast should of gotten theirs, if they're getting them.

oleus

01-04-2009 17:07:53

[quotebc0c376adc="steveyankee"]Actually, there are some in IL that got theirs, and some way east of here in MA got theirs.

It's only been a day since the IL people got theirs, so I expect by Friday that those on the west coast should of gotten theirs, if they're getting them.[/quotebc0c376adc]

but someone at ARG told someone here just today that they are still going through the audit process....which hopefully just means looking at the responses of people who got letters, and not fishing for more people to send letters to.

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 17:11:37

[quoteef505d78c0="steveyankee"]Actually, there are some in IL that got theirs, and some way east of here in MA got theirs.

It's only been a day since the IL people got theirs, so I expect by Friday that those on the west coast should of gotten theirs, if they're getting them.[/quoteef505d78c0]

Are you sure? I've been paying attention pretty closely because I live in Illinois and I was looking for someone to say just that. Maybe I missed it though.

steveyankee

01-04-2009 17:24:12

[quote8d21f771f5="kwoodyk34k"][quote8d21f771f5="steveyankee"]Actually, there are some in IL that got theirs, and some way east of here in MA got theirs.

It's only been a day since the IL people got theirs, so I expect by Friday that those on the west coast should of gotten theirs, if they're getting them.[/quote8d21f771f5]

Are you sure? I've been paying attention pretty closely because I live in Illinois and I was looking for someone to say just that. Maybe I missed it though.[/quote8d21f771f5]


On a different forum bud.


There's a lot of news that gets posted on other forums and not here.

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 17:43:16

[quote9540ab0d3f="steveyankee"][quote9540ab0d3f="kwoodyk34k"][quote9540ab0d3f="steveyankee"]Actually, there are some in IL that got theirs, and some way east of here in MA got theirs.

It's only been a day since the IL people got theirs, so I expect by Friday that those on the west coast should of gotten theirs, if they're getting them.[/quote9540ab0d3f]

Are you sure? I've been paying attention pretty closely because I live in Illinois and I was looking for someone to say just that. Maybe I missed it though.[/quote9540ab0d3f]


On a different forum bud.


There's a lot of news that gets posted on other forums and not here.[/quote9540ab0d3f]

Was it A4F, FYB, or somewhere else?

ILoveToys

01-04-2009 17:51:23

I'm sure he means FYB.

kinneylamb

01-04-2009 17:55:49

[quote886a56585e="fesicnet"]I would like to start by saying I have not received a letter, nor do I expect too. However, given the growing concern of the current situation I called both Mpell and Brandarama. Both of them claimed of knowing nothing about the disqualifications until some prodding. Mpell claims that all checks should be mailed out 8-10 weeks from when they are process, for me that is 2-3 more weeks. Brandarama admits that this occurring, but claims that it is only being used in extreme circumstances. (Such as someone having six accounts or multiple cases of offer fraud)

Not to go negative but my speculation is Brandarma might be heading to receivership. Last year they received a $10 million dollar investment, which was not enough to supplement the cost of sending out $500 rewards when there income from advertisers was only $50. (Don't believe it is so low, open an affiliate account with Commission Junction) Every form that gets mailed in is a loss! The foundation of the company was a poorly executed failed concept. On top of that they have missed multiple affiliate payments and there bailout has abandoned the merger. From what is being posted it seems as Kim indicates the company is in disarray and possible desperate for survival.

If the business model was sound they would have never wanted or needed the $10 million dollar investment. This company seems to have been acting as a ponzi scheme. Needing new users and people completing more offers to payout, previous user more then the company earned from them. This would explain why the shipping time continued to be delayed.

Once the delay grew to long they brought in Mpell in hopes people would say, forget it and not redeem there certificates. I am not sure how many people they expected to redeem vs. did redeem, but it seems like more did then expected. Now they are looking for any excuse to preserve capital and starve off bankruptcy.[/quote886a56585e]

but why keep the sites running, change the terms and conditions, and commit to mpell as the method of gift fulfillment. i think its something else. people used to post their arca or whatever website hits, and it was 1,000,000 per month at one point. they could have a legitimately long shipping list, but an inefficient shipping department. they dont even receive your certificate till after like 4+ weeks. a company in dire straits would downsize and shut down or declare chapter 11 bankruptcy protection to rearrange their finances by now.

oleus

01-04-2009 18:17:59

just received this from Sylvia at MPELL from a days-old question about gift fulfillment

"We have been told by Active Response that they will soon be releasing the funds to pay out their clients. Thank you!"

not really new information, but i politely responded thanking her for getting back to me and pointed out that "soon" to ARG could mean anything coming from them.

chewy

01-04-2009 18:35:16

[quote496b53b8b7="oleus"]just received this from Sylvia at MPELL from a days-old question about gift fulfillment

"We have been told by Active Response that they will soon be releasing the funds to pay out their clients. Thank you!"

not really new information, but i politely responded thanking her for getting back to me and pointed out that "soon" to ARG could mean anything coming from them.[/quote496b53b8b7]

the operative word is soon. pretty open ended

mweiss

01-04-2009 18:40:02

I'm not sure if this means anything but I did two sites - YTB $1,000 Visa and Brandarama $250 JCrew gift card.

I used 2 different emails (for organizing purposes) and I live in CT. I haven't received any letter yet. I mailed in my certs on 1/31 and was told they were approved. My initials are MW (not sure if that has to do with the way the audit letters are going out)

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 18:41:11

[quotec561ee0906="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quotec561ee0906]

I don't see that on FYB.

bruman

01-04-2009 18:47:57

[quotea105421b35="oleus"]just received this from Sylvia at MPELL from a days-old question about gift fulfillment

"We have been told by Active Response that they will soon be releasing the funds to pay out their clients. Thank you!"[/quotea105421b35]

Cool. They are probably going to start sending them out next week as ARG CS said. Can't wait!

oleus

01-04-2009 18:57:11

[quote0d2188c510="bruman"][quote0d2188c510="oleus"]just received this from Sylvia at MPELL from a days-old question about gift fulfillment

"We have been told by Active Response that they will soon be releasing the funds to pay out their clients. Thank you!"[/quote0d2188c510]

Cool. They are probably going to start sending them out next week as ARG CS said. Can't wait![/quote0d2188c510]

i hope you're right...could be a nice bonus to the start of baseball season!

bruman

01-04-2009 19:03:32

[quoteb0a6bf20dc="oleus"][quoteb0a6bf20dc="bruman"][quoteb0a6bf20dc="oleus"]just received this from Sylvia at MPELL from a days-old question about gift fulfillment

"We have been told by Active Response that they will soon be releasing the funds to pay out their clients. Thank you!"[/quoteb0a6bf20dc]

Cool. They are probably going to start sending them out next week as ARG CS said. Can't wait![/quoteb0a6bf20dc]

i hope you're right...could be a nice bonus to the start of baseball season![/quoteb0a6bf20dc]

Mpell probably got pissed at ARG -- got in contact with them wanting answers and persuaded ARG to start shipments. ARG is a very well funded company so there's no reason to think they don't have the money there. I'd say within the next week or two we'll have our checks.

bruman

01-04-2009 19:11:22

Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.

RyanG

01-04-2009 19:16:02

[quotee511429050="bruman"]Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.[/quotee511429050]

How would you even figure that? It's mailed from NY, I just got mine yesterday in Michigan so it still has a few days before those reach the west coast. Plus, no one has any idea how this is being done.

marbs4life

01-04-2009 19:16:52

[quote961f8c7690="bruman"]Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.[/quote961f8c7690]

didnt read hard enough. friend in New Hampshire got his today.

steveyankee

01-04-2009 19:19:15

[quote1af8803528="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quote1af8803528]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.

dubbin87

01-04-2009 19:20:46

[quotee7de8ea28b="kinneylamb"]

[be7de8ea28b]but why keep the sites running,[/be7de8ea28b] change the terms and conditions, and commit to mpell as the method of gift fulfillment. i think its something else. people used to post their arca or whatever website hits, and it was 1,000,000 per month at one point. they could have a legitimately long shipping list, but an inefficient shipping department. they dont even receive your certificate till after like 4+ weeks. a company in dire straits would downsize and shut down or declare chapter 11 bankruptcy protection to rearrange their finances by now.[/quotee7de8ea28b]

They gotta keep the scam going, drag more people in to screw them out of money.

bruman

01-04-2009 19:21:00

[quoteee94fa4be0="RyanG"][quoteee94fa4be0="bruman"]Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.[/quoteee94fa4be0]

How would you even figure that? It's mailed from NY, I just got mine yesterday in Michigan so it still has a few days before those reach the west coast. Plus, no one has any idea how this is being done.[/quoteee94fa4be0]

Mail travels faster than you think. USPS has a tool on their website that you can see the estimated transit times.. it's accurate about 95% of the time. If it was shipped out Friday it doesn't matter where you live (in fact, the website says 3 days to Michigan and 3 days to California from NY), you would have received it by now.

ILoveToys

01-04-2009 19:21:42

[quote7a075dd782="steveyankee"][quote7a075dd782="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quote7a075dd782]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.[/quote7a075dd782]

So why do you keep coming back here then? If you have great info elsewhere I don't know why you are constantly reading here where you seem to take issue with about every other post.

steveyankee

01-04-2009 19:26:23

[quote23583f8c9a="ILoveToys"][quote23583f8c9a="steveyankee"][quote23583f8c9a="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quote23583f8c9a]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.[/quote23583f8c9a]

So why do you keep coming back here then? If you have great info elsewhere I don't know why you are constantly reading here where you seem to take issue with about every other post.[/quote23583f8c9a]


Ann Arbor is an hour away.

Seriously, if I came up there, would you fight one on one? It would be great entertainment to record while everyone on multiple sites wait to see what's going on.

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 19:30:05

[quotecddc84b259="steveyankee"][quotecddc84b259="ILoveToys"][quotecddc84b259="steveyankee"][quotecddc84b259="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quotecddc84b259]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.[/quotecddc84b259]

So why do you keep coming back here then? If you have great info elsewhere I don't know why you are constantly reading here where you seem to take issue with about every other post.[/quotecddc84b259]


Ann Arbor is an hour away.

Seriously, if I came up there, would you fight one on one? It would be great entertainment to record while everyone on multiple sites wait to see what's going on.[/quotecddc84b259]

Or you could just answer the person who politely asked what website you saw it on. ]

(me)

steveyankee

01-04-2009 19:31:29

lol

I would man, but I just can't say.

I can give some info from that site, and like I said, IL people have got theirs.

If I said the forum, shit wouldn't run well. We know what happens when sites get posted on FIPG and A4F. Never been to FYB, so I don't know how big that place is.

And not talking about you, but we don't want 90% of these people there.

Also doesn't help that more than half of the community trolls this forum.

marbs4life

01-04-2009 19:32:17

[quotebd241af353="bruman"][quotebd241af353="RyanG"][quotebd241af353="bruman"]Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.[/quotebd241af353]

How would you even figure that? It's mailed from NY, I just got mine yesterday in Michigan so it still has a few days before those reach the west coast. Plus, no one has any idea how this is being done.[/quotebd241af353]

Mail travels faster than you think. USPS has a tool on their website that you can see the estimated transit times.. it's accurate about 95% of the time. If it was shipped out Friday it doesn't matter where you live (in fact, the website says 3 days to Michigan and 3 days to California from NY), you would have received it by now.[/quotebd241af353]

Well the fact that they have so far been shipped out on 3 different days AND someone just received the letter today in NH (which is 2 days from when shipped) AND the fact that ARG even said themselves that they are not done auditing, means............. drom roll.................

marbs4life

01-04-2009 19:34:01

[quotedba332de20="kwoodyk34k"][quotedba332de20="steveyankee"][quotedba332de20="ILoveToys"][quotedba332de20="steveyankee"][quotedba332de20="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quotedba332de20]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.[/quotedba332de20]

So why do you keep coming back here then? If you have great info elsewhere I don't know why you are constantly reading here where you seem to take issue with about every other post.[/quotedba332de20]


Ann Arbor is an hour away.

Seriously, if I came up there, would you fight one on one? It would be great entertainment to record while everyone on multiple sites wait to see what's going on.[/quotedba332de20]

Or you could just answer the person who politely asked what website you saw it on. ]

(me)[/quotedba332de20]

we politely say no. kthxbye

kinneylamb

01-04-2009 19:38:56

[quotea315e7b90d="doylnea"][quotea315e7b90d="jtackman"]Its not just low, its also illegal.

Good for you SkatingCrippled![/quotea315e7b90d]

In what way is it illegal - what statute or law is being violated? It certainly seems like a bad faith decision, but it's a giant leap to say it's illegal.[/quotea315e7b90d]
statute of limitations? or goes back to what fesicnet said linot legal advice, not a lawyerli

ILoveToys

01-04-2009 19:42:11

[quote46d316bc69="steveyankee"][quote46d316bc69="ILoveToys"][quote46d316bc69="steveyankee"][quote46d316bc69="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quote46d316bc69]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.[/quote46d316bc69]

So why do you keep coming back here then? If you have great info elsewhere I don't know why you are constantly reading here where you seem to take issue with about every other post.[/quote46d316bc69]


Ann Arbor is an hour away.

Seriously, if I came up there, would you fight one on one? It would be great entertainment to record while everyone on multiple sites wait to see what's going on.[/quote46d316bc69]

LMK when you're on the way.

steveyankee

01-04-2009 19:43:05

[quote06a8b483b0="marbs4life"][quote06a8b483b0="kwoodyk34k"][quote06a8b483b0="steveyankee"][quote06a8b483b0="ILoveToys"][quote06a8b483b0="steveyankee"][quote06a8b483b0="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quote06a8b483b0]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.[/quote06a8b483b0]

So why do you keep coming back here then? If you have great info elsewhere I don't know why you are constantly reading here where you seem to take issue with about every other post.[/quote06a8b483b0]


Ann Arbor is an hour away.

Seriously, if I came up there, would you fight one on one? It would be great entertainment to record while everyone on multiple sites wait to see what's going on.[/quote06a8b483b0]

Or you could just answer the person who politely asked what website you saw it on. ]

(me)[/quote06a8b483b0]

we politely say no. kthxbye[/quote06a8b483b0]


right son 8)


were like the 4chan of DIY sites lol

steveyankee

01-04-2009 19:43:33

[quoteb8c4330dcb="ILoveToys"][quoteb8c4330dcb="steveyankee"][quoteb8c4330dcb="ILoveToys"][quoteb8c4330dcb="steveyankee"][quoteb8c4330dcb="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quoteb8c4330dcb]


Really, stfu.

There are other places besides FYB and A4F.[/quoteb8c4330dcb]

So why do you keep coming back here then? If you have great info elsewhere I don't know why you are constantly reading here where you seem to take issue with about every other post.[/quoteb8c4330dcb]


Ann Arbor is an hour away.

Seriously, if I came up there, would you fight one on one? It would be great entertainment to record while everyone on multiple sites wait to see what's going on.[/quoteb8c4330dcb]

LMK when you're on the way.[/quoteb8c4330dcb]


PM me your cell and address.

dubbin87

01-04-2009 19:51:18

So how's life in the 100acre woods today? oh wait that's Pooh.... ?

I get my bears mixed up. shock

kinneylamb

01-04-2009 19:53:38

[quote7b897f3b8c="Zags1199"]Yeah, her e-mails to me and her tone when I just talked with her spoke volumes about her feelings toward Brandarama and ARG. She knew things weren't fair and recognized the poor communication, and she wasn't afraid to tell people that. She handled it the best she could, in my opinion, and has been, by far, the most helpful person at the place. I hope she has another job lined up.[/quote7b897f3b8c]
now that she's leaving i can spill that she reads these (hi kim! thank you for all your good answers and help!).

lol, does anyone remember holly? she told me she was going to get back to me and never did.

dubbin87

01-04-2009 19:58:45

[quote1fcf90677f="kinneylamb"][quote1fcf90677f="Zags1199"]Yeah, her e-mails to me and her tone when I just talked with her spoke volumes about her feelings toward Brandarama and ARG. She knew things weren't fair and recognized the poor communication, and she wasn't afraid to tell people that. She handled it the best she could, in my opinion, and has been, by far, the most helpful person at the place. I hope she has another job lined up.[/quote1fcf90677f]
now that she's leaving i can spill that she reads these (hi kim! thank you for all your good answers and help!).

lol, does anyone remember holly? she told me she was going to get back to me and never did.[/quote1fcf90677f]

Anne was a good one too, she gave down to earth awnsers rather than the canned crap. It's seems to be ARG finds ways of running off the good CS people while keeping the lililili behind.

ohboyitsryan

01-04-2009 20:03:33

I'm guessing the reason the audit letters are sporadic is because ARG probaby did them over the course of a week or two. they may not even be done, which leads me to believe that those who didn't get audited will begin to receive checks on a rolling basis. the million dollar question is how they are going thru each member to determine account legitimacy. be it by name or approval date. for the people who have received checks, it's probably most beneficial to tell people either initials and/or approval date. we might be able to put a method to this madness.

kinneylamb

01-04-2009 20:09:53

[quote0d8eebb006="fanofpurple"]I don't think it was a written rule in the T&C (pre 3/20)- and I know when I called at one point, I was told that you can't repeat gifts ($500 Visa, $250 Macys). They made it sound as though you could do multiple sites, just one of each type of gift.[/quote0d8eebb006]
you were confusing gifts with sponsor offers. but neither was written in the terms.

kinneylamb

01-04-2009 20:19:21

[quotebe301beadc="ohboyitsryan"]I'm guessing the reason the audit letters are sporadic is because ARG probaby did them over the course of a week or two. they may not even be done, which leads me to believe that those who didn't get audited will begin to receive checks on a rolling basis. the million dollar question is how they are going thru each member to determine account legitimacy. be it by name or approval date. for the people who have received checks, it's probably most beneficial to tell people either initials and/or approval date. we might be able to put a method to this madness.[/quotebe301beadc]
i dont think so. to audit all the accounts they've had to go through, they've probably been at this for some time. i think what's done has been done. everyone will receive checks from mpell, because brandarama audit is still going through the 10 day thing and by then they are expected to pay mpell already. so if you received a letter, hold on to your check and dont spend it just yet.

jtackman

01-04-2009 20:19:36

i am sure they are going thru people with most prizes first

ohboyitsryan

01-04-2009 20:32:07

[quote9d8e630cd5="kinneylamb"][quote9d8e630cd5="ohboyitsryan"]I'm guessing the reason the audit letters are sporadic is because ARG probaby did them over the course of a week or two. they may not even be done, which leads me to believe that those who didn't get audited will begin to receive checks on a rolling basis. the million dollar question is how they are going thru each member to determine account legitimacy. be it by name or approval date. for the people who have received checks, it's probably most beneficial to tell people either initials and/or approval date. we might be able to put a method to this madness.[/quote9d8e630cd5]
i dont think so. to audit all the accounts they've had to go through, they've probably been at this for some time. i think what's done has been done. everyone will receive checks from mpell, because brandarama audit is still going through the 10 day thing and by then they are expected to pay mpell already. so if you received a letter, hold on to your check and dont spend it just yet.[/quote9d8e630cd5]

the reason I would assume this audit process is a rather recent phenomenon is becuse I believe the audits were an afterthought; another measure to weed out members to pay the absolute minimum to Mpell. i'm confident that IP checks, multiple email, and duplicate offer checks are pretty fast per member but again, it's all speculation at this point. I do agree, however, that those in the clear will begin to receive their checks next week. so let's hope for the best.

kwoodyk34k

01-04-2009 20:39:23

[quoteb80909ac19="marbs4life"][quoteb80909ac19="bruman"][quoteb80909ac19="RyanG"][quoteb80909ac19="bruman"]Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.[/quoteb80909ac19]

How would you even figure that? It's mailed from NY, I just got mine yesterday in Michigan so it still has a few days before those reach the west coast. Plus, no one has any idea how this is being done.[/quoteb80909ac19]

Mail travels faster than you think. USPS has a tool on their website that you can see the estimated transit times.. it's accurate about 95% of the time. If it was shipped out Friday it doesn't matter where you live (in fact, the website says 3 days to Michigan and 3 days to California from NY), you would have received it by now.[/quoteb80909ac19]

Well the fact that they have so far been shipped out on 3 different days AND someone just received the letter today in NH (which is 2 days from when shipped) AND the fact that ARG even said themselves that they are not done auditing, means............. drom roll.................[/quoteb80909ac19]

Just mentioning that all 3 post-mark dates (though I've only heard of two) were dated March 27 on the letter.

Not that it means that they won't send more letters with new dates, but I wouldn't read too much into post-marked dates because they could have very well been in the same batch.

For example, I'm an eBay powerseller... I sell and ship 100's of items every year. Usually if they are small enough I drop them in the blue USPS drop box on the corner rather than going all the way to the post office.

I often find that even though things are dropped off together, they may be post-marked on different days. That may just be with parcels though. Not sure.

marbs4life

01-04-2009 20:48:57

[quote50c61e4a4d="kwoodyk34k"][quote50c61e4a4d="marbs4life"][quote50c61e4a4d="bruman"][quote50c61e4a4d="RyanG"][quote50c61e4a4d="bruman"]Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.[/quote50c61e4a4d]

How would you even figure that? It's mailed from NY, I just got mine yesterday in Michigan so it still has a few days before those reach the west coast. Plus, no one has any idea how this is being done.[/quote50c61e4a4d]

Mail travels faster than you think. USPS has a tool on their website that you can see the estimated transit times.. it's accurate about 95% of the time. If it was shipped out Friday it doesn't matter where you live (in fact, the website says 3 days to Michigan and 3 days to California from NY), you would have received it by now.[/quote50c61e4a4d]

Well the fact that they have so far been shipped out on 3 different days AND someone just received the letter today in NH (which is 2 days from when shipped) AND the fact that ARG even said themselves that they are not done auditing, means............. drom roll.................[/quote50c61e4a4d]

Just mentioning that all 3 post-mark dates (though I've only heard of two) were dated March 27 on the letter.

Not that it means that they won't send more letters with new dates, but I wouldn't read too much into post-marked dates because they could have very well been in the same batch.

For example, I'm an eBay powerseller... I sell and ship 100's of items every year. Usually if they are small enough I drop them in the blue USPS drop box on the corner rather than going all the way to the post office.

I often find that even though things are dropped off together, they may be post-marked on different days. That may just be with parcels though. Not sure.[/quote50c61e4a4d]


Thats all fine and dandy (i even used to be a powerseller) but when ARG themselves say they are not done... they probably are not done.

bruman

01-04-2009 20:50:04

[quote57d2febf07="marbs4life"][quote57d2febf07="kwoodyk34k"][quote57d2febf07="marbs4life"][quote57d2febf07="bruman"][quote57d2febf07="RyanG"][quote57d2febf07="bruman"]Also, maybe I missed it, but I don't see anyone posted they received an audit letter today. They were sent out Friday and it doesn't take more than 4 days to receive a letter sent from NY no matter where you are. There may be a few exceptions to that but I think we all are done having to worry about receiving one of those.[/quote57d2febf07]

How would you even figure that? It's mailed from NY, I just got mine yesterday in Michigan so it still has a few days before those reach the west coast. Plus, no one has any idea how this is being done.[/quote57d2febf07]

Mail travels faster than you think. USPS has a tool on their website that you can see the estimated transit times.. it's accurate about 95% of the time. If it was shipped out Friday it doesn't matter where you live (in fact, the website says 3 days to Michigan and 3 days to California from NY), you would have received it by now.[/quote57d2febf07]

Well the fact that they have so far been shipped out on 3 different days AND someone just received the letter today in NH (which is 2 days from when shipped) AND the fact that ARG even said themselves that they are not done auditing, means............. drom roll.................[/quote57d2febf07]

Just mentioning that all 3 post-mark dates (though I've only heard of two) were dated March 27 on the letter.

Not that it means that they won't send more letters with new dates, but I wouldn't read too much into post-marked dates because they could have very well been in the same batch.

For example, I'm an eBay powerseller... I sell and ship 100's of items every year. Usually if they are small enough I drop them in the blue USPS drop box on the corner rather than going all the way to the post office.

I often find that even though things are dropped off together, they may be post-marked on different days. That may just be with parcels though. Not sure.[/quote57d2febf07]


Thats all fine and dandy (i even used to be a powerseller) but when ARG themselves say they are not done... they probably are not done.[/quote57d2febf07]

I'm pretty sure they meant the auditing PROCESS... they've already weeded out those they wanted to audit.

ohboyitsryan

01-04-2009 21:00:35

agreed. if you have suspicious account activity, then you're on the audit blacklist already by now. it's going to be very interesting to see how ARG handles rebuttals for the DQs, though. I wonder which justifications will enable users to remain active and have the DQ overturned and which will not cut it.

Eeyore

01-04-2009 21:08:54

[quote735827a620="bruman"]I'm pretty sure they meant the auditing PROCESS... they've already weeded out those they wanted to audit.[/quote735827a620]
I agree. The weeding could be automated with a few SQL statements and the results dumped to Excel. Mere humans would not have to even look at them...just fold, stuff and seal. The onus then shifts to us to prove that our hands are clean. Guilty by computer until proven innocent by a person. The certified postage is a bargain if they can cut another 10%-20% of the $1000+ payouts. The 10 day response period is just to make sure nobody has a chance to spread the word about what worked and what didn't response-wise. Any first year law student could tell you that accepting a response by email and not requiring signed hard copy is lousy evidence in court.

We won't know squat until the first Mpell-related check arrives though. It's going to be an anxious two weeks.

michae229

01-04-2009 22:15:40

anyone in Texas get one yet?

LucaBella

02-04-2009 00:38:17

I really hope that whomever does get the first check, that they will post pics. There's just been too many jokes, and accusations and hurt feelings to just say "hey I got paid, bye" especially if that person isn't a long-standing poster, because that's been done REPEATEDLY around here. Black out the appropriate info, but post pics of the check, the letter, hell everything. Do it for the kids. =]

fanofpurple

02-04-2009 03:42:07

[quoted61749ae79="kinneylamb"][quoted61749ae79="fanofpurple"]I don't think it was a written rule in the T&C (pre 3/20)- and I know when I called at one point, I was told that you can't repeat gifts ($500 Visa, $250 Macys). They made it sound as though you could do multiple sites, just one of each type of gift.[/quoted61749ae79]
you were confusing gifts with sponsor offers. but neither was written in the terms.[/quoted61749ae79]

No - because I spelled it out to her on the phone - "So I can do a $500 Visa gift card one time, and a 1K visa card one time...." and she agreed. Like you said - neither WAS against the rules. We'll just have to wait this out.

mjforever

02-04-2009 07:30:23

Friend of mine received a letter today here in Michigan. I received mine 4 days ago. I guess they're not done yet sending letters.

manOFice

02-04-2009 07:48:35

[quote35c56c1277="mjforever"]Friend of mine received a letter today here in Michigan. I received mine 4 days ago. I guess they're not done yet sending letters.[/quote35c56c1277]

wow you get your mail early 8)

kwoodyk34k

02-04-2009 07:58:07

[quote5597c6a4fe="mjforever"]Friend of mine received a letter today here in Michigan. I received mine 4 days ago. I guess they're not done yet sending letters.[/quote5597c6a4fe]

What was the date on it? March 27?
And yeah... I won't get my mail for another 8 hours, lol.

oleus

02-04-2009 08:02:05

there's no way to figure this out since these kinds of forums aren't necessarily a good sample section of their customers, but i'm REALLY curious as to what percentage of people who sent in MPELL certificates received DQ letters. A cursory guess from this forum would be around 20% - what do you guys think?

manOFice

02-04-2009 08:04:04

[quote3a6c3af77b="oleus"]there's no way to figure this out since these kinds of forums aren't necessarily a good sample section of their customers, but i'm REALLY curious as to what percentage of people who sent in MPELL certificates received DQ letters. A cursory guess from this forum would be around 20% - what do you guys think?[/quote3a6c3af77b]

Seems smaller maybe 10 - 15%

bruman

02-04-2009 08:23:04

[quote16f27c742c="manOFice"][quote16f27c742c="mjforever"]Friend of mine received a letter today here in Michigan. I received mine 4 days ago. I guess they're not done yet sending letters.[/quote16f27c742c]

wow you get your mail early 8)[/quote16f27c742c]

Ha.. getting the mail at 830 in the morning.. I don't even think my post office is open at that time.

oleus

02-04-2009 08:26:45

[quote03ad6ce2ee="bruman"][quote03ad6ce2ee="manOFice"][quote03ad6ce2ee="mjforever"]Friend of mine received a letter today here in Michigan. I received mine 4 days ago. I guess they're not done yet sending letters.[/quote03ad6ce2ee]

wow you get your mail early 8)[/quote03ad6ce2ee]

Ha.. getting the mail at 830 in the morning.. I don't even think my post office is open at that time.[/quote03ad6ce2ee]

i guess his mailman had early dinner reservations )

RyanG

02-04-2009 10:27:29

Guess my time is off. Said he posted 1030am this morning?

Getstuff4free Kyle

02-04-2009 10:30:35

Pennsylvania. No letter today, but it may be delayed due to forwarding. However, it would be a local forward, so it shouldn't be that bad.

ploppsdman

02-04-2009 11:09:52

I wrote last month that mpells inclusion was likely just to sponge off their decent reputation and it doesn't appear as though that was incorrect. The only other possible explanation, is that people would have opened a letter from brandarama, or yourtopbrands, but something from mpell might have been ignored so they (arg) figured it was worth whatever the cost was to hire mpell for receiving letters (assuming mpell was or will be paid) to save money from those who didn't open the mpell letters (though, why has some people received money direct from them? weird). What a mess. I'm still expecting other shoes to drop, ie another 8-10 week time frame added, mpell to completely disavow arg (looks like its already happening), and who knows what else. Thankfully, I've resorted to ignoring this for a week and its probably best I go back to that .... if anyone from mpell is reading this, my advice is to be honest with us. Otherwise, your reputation, at least as far as opinions on the internet goes (BBB, for example), is about to be obliterated.

oleus

02-04-2009 11:25:48

all i know is that I threw all hope out the window once Mpell told me that according to ARG, they would ship the money "soon". In the ARG thesaurus "soon" is probably listed under "never - Bwahahaha!"

neverendingmoolah

02-04-2009 11:38:05

One thing that might work in our favor is the fact that ARG did involve Mpell and Mpell (it seems) so far has a somewhat stellar reputation as far as the affiliate market is concerned. They (ARG) have to pay Mpell for the work they have done, as I am sure it is contracted and if they dont pay Mpell they will definitely ruin whatever chance they have of salvaging their reputation in the affiliate market. Mpell has first hand knowledge and knows named individuals and I am sure wont waste anytime giving up those names if they get screwed around. At the least, ARG will have to pay them for sending out the letters and providing up until now CS for their customers, which according to some information is upwards in the thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands. Let's hope that if Mpell is put in position to have to fight for their fees, then they will fight for our fees as well, since they are now involved.

RyanG

02-04-2009 11:57:05

[quotec070bf712c="oleus"]all i know is that I threw all hope out the window once Mpell told me that according to ARG, they would ship the money "soon". In the ARG thesaurus "soon" is probably listed under "never - Bwahahaha!"[/quotec070bf712c]

I remember hearing soon back in December 2007 for gifts CTS in October D

Eeyore

02-04-2009 13:21:54

Mailbox deathwatch, Day IV No audit letter here in Chicagoland today.

Powerbook

02-04-2009 13:27:34

God, there is so much to read here. So, everyone is getting these letters? I only had 1 account, 1 email. I never did any other sites from their network. If we get one, what does it ask?

ohboyitsryan

02-04-2009 13:28:13

so everyone who is saying 'no letter today'...are you expecting letters? i.e. did you duplicate offers/emails? it's a little misleading if you know you haven't done one of the aformentioned actions for a DQ and inform people that you haven't been audited. kind of like if you haven't been married, you wouldn't expect someone to serve divorce papers on you. so if you know you violated one of the audit provisions, post what you did in addition to the status of receiving the letter.

Eeyore

02-04-2009 13:35:19

No, I am not expecting one. I did two different sites using eight different sponsor offers under one email address. My post is just informational to those trying to keep track of what is showing up when and why. There are a couple people who claim they did not use multiple email addresses or duplicate offers and still got the audit letter.

livingloud28

02-04-2009 13:37:02

So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .

oleus

02-04-2009 13:38:12

[quote1bde595203="ohboyitsryan"]so everyone who is saying 'no letter today'...are you expecting letters? i.e. did you duplicate offers/emails? it's a little misleading if you know you haven't done one of the aformentioned actions for a DQ and inform people that you haven't been audited. kind of like if you haven't been married, you wouldn't expect someone to serve divorce papers on you. so if you know you violated one of the audit provisions, post what you did in addition to the status of receiving the letter.[/quote1bde595203]

seeing as this came of nowhere and seemed like a last-ditch attempt by ARG to get out of paying as many people as possible, i think a lot of us who didn't do anything "wrong" are still nervous. i think it would be foolish not to be given the series of events....someone brought up the point of Entertainment Book 2007, then next year doing the Entertainment Book 2008. Are they going to consider that "duplicating offers"? What's their answer to the people who used two email addresses for two different gifts for organizational purposes but didn't repeat any offers? we don't know yet, and a lot of people who played by the rules are still rightfully nervous.

Eeyore

02-04-2009 13:38:32

[quote9f1185a1bb="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quote9f1185a1bb]If so I should see my check next week.

LucaBella

02-04-2009 13:41:41

[quote7326b733cf="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quote7326b733cf]


Aparently? why is there any question whether or not you called? heh, anyway, thanks for the update.

neverendingmoolah

02-04-2009 13:41:54

[quoteaa79fe88d7="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quoteaa79fe88d7]

That's encouraging. Did they say what order the checks will be sent out? (i.e., In the order they received the receipts, in alphabetical order??) Also, is the week of the 2nd (today) considered this week or will they go out the week the 9th (next week)?

ohboyitsryan

02-04-2009 13:43:33

[quoteaa046b424d="Eeyore"]No, I am not expecting one. I did two different sites using eight different sponsor offers under one email address. My post is just informational to those trying to keep track of what is showing up when and why. There are a couple people who claim they did not use multiple email addresses or duplicate offers and still got the audit letter.[/quoteaa046b424d]

fair enough. I feel that the tone of my post may have come off a bit pushy, for that I apologize. maybe for the future in addition to letter receipt status and home state, people can post if the letter is expected or not for further reference.

livingloud28

02-04-2009 13:50:34

They did not say the order they are going in. All she said that there was alot for forms that came in so I am guessing by when they received them.

RyanG

02-04-2009 13:50:46

Still no response on the audit front...

ohboyitsryan

02-04-2009 14:02:16

[quotebf2af6415b="Eeyore"][quotebf2af6415b="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quotebf2af6415b]If so I should see my check next week.[/quotebf2af6415b]

when were your mpell certs approved?

ryndne

02-04-2009 14:06:17

[quotee3e64a01c5="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like [be3e64a01c5]they[/be3e64a01c5] are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quotee3e64a01c5]

I'm not sure anyone can answer this, but has anyone been given information about who "they" is? (who is mailing checks?) It would seem that the check would come from Mpell based on the cert letters...but ARG still has a finger on the issue.

Just trying to figure out how worried I should be that I just moved. I changed my address with both companies, but I trust Mpell a lot more than ARG at this point. The lady I spoke with on the phone at ARG sounded like she was writing my new address on the back of her hand instead of putting it in the system ?

ohboyitsryan

02-04-2009 14:23:01

[quote22bc7bb43d="ryndne"][quote22bc7bb43d="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like [b22bc7bb43d]they[/b22bc7bb43d] are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quote22bc7bb43d]

I'm not sure anyone can answer this, but has anyone been given information about who "they" is? (who is mailing checks?) It would seem that the check would come from Mpell based on the cert letters...but ARG still has a finger on the issue.

Just trying to figure out how worried I should be that I just moved. I changed my address with both companies, but I trust Mpell a lot more than ARG at this point. The lady I spoke with on the phone at ARG sounded like she was writing my new address on the back of her hand instead of putting it in the system ?[/quote22bc7bb43d]

they will come from mpell after ARG okays the allocation of funds to each
member. got that from mpell directly. works for me because mpell is located about 150 miles from my house.

Eeyore

02-04-2009 15:16:21

[quoted57bdd1241="ohboyitsryan"][quoted57bdd1241="Eeyore"][quoted57bdd1241="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quoted57bdd1241]If so I should see my check next week.[/quoted57bdd1241]

when were your mpell certs approved?[/quoted57bdd1241]February 4th.

Whatever happened to "NastyNinja" who said his uncle works for ARG?

RolltheStampede

02-04-2009 15:19:50

why do you build me up MPell Just to let me Down.

kwoodyk34k

02-04-2009 15:25:27

[quoteb3ee614428="Eeyore"][quoteb3ee614428="ohboyitsryan"][quoteb3ee614428="Eeyore"][quoteb3ee614428="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quoteb3ee614428]If so I should see my check next week.[/quoteb3ee614428]

when were your mpell certs approved?[/quoteb3ee614428]February 4th.

Whatever happened to "NastyNinja" who said his uncle works for ARG?[/quoteb3ee614428]

I think nasty ninja was the same person as SkatingCrippled. and FreeIpodPlayer or whatever his name was.

marbs4life

02-04-2009 16:31:53

[quote57adb89825="RyanG"]Still no response on the audit front...[/quote57adb89825]

Tomorrow will be day 4 for me... No response other than... "we received your email at this time, this day, kthxbye, -the legal dept."

jtackman

02-04-2009 16:32:35

i didnt even ge a response

marbs4life

02-04-2009 16:33:02

[quoteadb6b0ac68="kwoodyk34k"][quoteadb6b0ac68="Eeyore"][quoteadb6b0ac68="ohboyitsryan"][quoteadb6b0ac68="Eeyore"][quoteadb6b0ac68="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quoteadb6b0ac68]If so I should see my check next week.[/quoteadb6b0ac68]

when were your mpell certs approved?[/quoteadb6b0ac68]February 4th.

Whatever happened to "NastyNinja" who said his uncle works for ARG?[/quoteadb6b0ac68]

I think nasty ninja was the same person as SkatingCrippled. and FreeIpodPlayer or whatever his name was.[/quoteadb6b0ac68]

wrong a roonie

RyanG

02-04-2009 17:24:41

[quote08ae5bbed1="marbs4life"][quote08ae5bbed1="RyanG"]Still no response on the audit front...[/quote08ae5bbed1]

Tomorrow will be day 4 for me... No response other than... "we received your email at this time, this day, kthxbye, -the legal dept."[/quote08ae5bbed1]

Didn't even get that and I sent them 2 separate e-mails.

marbs4life

02-04-2009 17:48:50

I know of one other person who got a response like I mentioned, but I know 2 others that received no response as you stated.

They will probably try to say you never sent an email now.

lol

kwoodyk34k

02-04-2009 18:35:12

[quote7f985e5ea5="marbs4life"][quote7f985e5ea5="kwoodyk34k"][quote7f985e5ea5="Eeyore"][quote7f985e5ea5="ohboyitsryan"][quote7f985e5ea5="Eeyore"][quote7f985e5ea5="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quote7f985e5ea5]If so I should see my check next week.[/quote7f985e5ea5]

when were your mpell certs approved?[/quote7f985e5ea5]February 4th.

Whatever happened to "NastyNinja" who said his uncle works for ARG?[/quote7f985e5ea5]

I think nasty ninja was the same person as SkatingCrippled. and FreeIpodPlayer or whatever his name was.[/quote7f985e5ea5]

wrong a roonie[/quote7f985e5ea5]

I apologize. I thought it was. Oops.

bruman

02-04-2009 18:56:02

They could be waiting until the 10 days are up like Eeyore said so that information regarding the process will not be posted for those who haven't sent e-mails yet. Who knows.

[quote386f8f123e="livingloud28"]So Aparently I called Mpell they directed me to ARG and the lady was like they are mailing checks out in batches this week so that is good news that I did not get an audit letter .[/quote386f8f123e]

She said "this week"? Well, there's only one more day in this week and that's tomorrow.

It also would be good to find out the shipping order of these things. I'm hoping for alphabetically P

livingloud28

02-04-2009 19:02:50

My bad she said a batch was mailed out this week and more are going to be going out on a weekly basis !

bruman

02-04-2009 19:04:32

[quote94c2a66f94="livingloud28"]My bad she said a batch was mailed out this week and more are going to be going out on a weekly basis ![/quote94c2a66f94]

So she said some checks where already mailed out?

You talked to ARG, right? I thought the consensus was that the checks will be received from mpell after getting paid by ARG.

oleus

02-04-2009 19:09:34

[quote0f0bbd8d87="livingloud28"]My bad she said a batch was mailed out this week and more are going to be going out on a weekly basis ![/quote0f0bbd8d87]

I'm skeptical they have already shipped anything but I will happily admit I am wrong if this is true

kwoodyk34k

02-04-2009 19:21:03

[quotedc31a96701="oleus"][quotedc31a96701="livingloud28"]My bad she said a batch was mailed out this week and more are going to be going out on a weekly basis ![/quotedc31a96701]

I'm skeptical they have already shipped anything but I will happily admit I am wrong if this is true[/quotedc31a96701]

Maybe she mistook all the audit letters for checks, lol.

livingloud28

02-04-2009 19:24:06

Yes I did talk to ARG . So I am hoping to get something soon .

kwoodyk34k

02-04-2009 20:12:32

Has anyone else asked if any have been mailed out yet?
Not that I don't believe you, livingloud, just trying to see if it's a consistent response.

ikeepsecrets

02-04-2009 21:15:28

[quote9d237bdc3d="JANGALANG32"]this needs to be a group effort...a 1 on 1 legal case isnt going to win. it needs to be everyone that got a letter so the amount owed is in the hundread thousands or millions. who knows..someone needs to direct a lawyer to this thread in the hopes they will help out. i dont think any checks are going to be sent out anytime soon[/quote9d237bdc3d]

What! Do you work for ARG?

Jesus! One class action suit! No fucking way.

You wanna know how to do this?

File one small claims suit at a time, for whatever the limit is in your state, until you have reached the total of what they have owed you.
(example, here in chicago the limit is 2500. first ill do my scholarship check. then ill do 5 of my 500 cards and so on and so on)
Imagine the judges face when she see's that you were cheated out of tuition assistance. Oh my god.

See, the difference is they will spend tens or hundreds of thousands representing them selves (and traveling to) your local court house. If we go class action, they just get a couple big wig lawyers to defend themselves in their home state.

I wanna see these fuckers bleed every penny they ever scammed.

Fuck class action. Everyone, get busy with yourself. Smile for the bitches at ARG too

ikeepsecrets

02-04-2009 21:26:23

[quote71ad8de143="ILoveToys"]I'm sure he means FYB.[/quote71ad8de143]

lol rere

Eeyore

02-04-2009 21:28:06

Good plan except that they'll just hire a lawyer as their rep in each jurisdiction to oppose you...none of the NYC folks will even miss lunch. Then there is that problem of collecting the judgment...

This is not a few college kids running a freebie company out of a dorm room. You can bet that every single move they've made has been vetted by a lawyer and handicapped for corporate benefit vs. corporate liability.

ikeepsecrets

02-04-2009 21:32:29

[quotecd38228062="steveyankee"]lol

I would man, but I just can't say.

I can give some info from that site, and like I said, IL people have got theirs.

If I said the forum, shit wouldn't run well. We know what happens when sites get posted on FIPG and A4F. Never been to FYB, so I don't know how big that place is.

And not talking about you, but we don't want 90% of these people there.

Also doesn't help that more than half of the community trolls this forum.[/quotecd38228062]

Perfectly worded Steven

ikeepsecrets

02-04-2009 21:54:52

[quote82c8fca1bb="Eeyore"]Good plan except that they'll just hire a lawyer as their rep in each jurisdiction to oppose you...none of the NYC folks will even miss lunch. Then there is that problem of collecting the judgment...

This is not a few college kids running a freebie company out of a dorm room. You can bet that every single move they've made has been vetted by a lawyer and handicapped for corporate benefit vs. corporate liability.[/quote82c8fca1bb]

No shit retard.

Are you trying to tell me that one lawyer to 50 - 100 or maybe even more jurisdictions will be less then one lawyer to one local court??

stfu and gtfo, kthxbye

Eeyore

02-04-2009 22:02:06

Retard? Is that your level? SO much for your cred. Must be from Naperville.

Some day you'll find out that there are law firms in every city large and small and they'll take these easy cases on for a fee.

Retard...LOL...LMAO!

marbs4life

02-04-2009 22:54:40

[quotefee46cfef8="Eeyore"]Retard? Is that your level? SO much for your cred. Must be from Naperville.

Some day you'll find out that there are law firms in every city large and small and they'll take these easy cases on for a fee.

Retard...LOL...LMAO![/quotefee46cfef8]

You are so convinced ARG would win... this is why most people are going to bend over and take it in the ass. Not I.

Eeyore

02-04-2009 23:40:45

[quote337cd84554="marbs4life"]You are so convinced ARG would win... this is why most people are going to bend over and take it in the ass. Not I.[/quote337cd84554]
I'm not convinced ARG would win, but I am convinced that trying to do this alone in small claims is a waste of time. If you are out several thousand dollars find a real attorney to find a real legal theory that you could win with. They'll take it on contingency if they think they can prevail.

So far nobody here has come up with one.

Then there is the issue of damages. That amounts to what you spent in sponsor offers. At best you'll get that back. You won't be getting anything close to what the gift total is and specific performance would be a very hard sell since the contract would be void at that point.

kinneylamb

03-04-2009 00:23:53

wheres that global block feature for eeyore.. i was going to ask for it a while back but i didn't know the right words for it but thats what i meant.

as long as you didn't actually fraud brandarama, you're going to get your money. fight as hard as you want, in whatever ways make sense to you. it's just, a legal attorney doesn't have to be your first avenue.

kinneylamb

03-04-2009 02:30:27

[quote6f0b631e85="JANGALANG32"]
if you go to the store and buy something and then go back to the same store and steal the same thing you just bought should you also have to give back the product you bought? i know this isnt the same thing so it doesnt count but who knows if signing up for the same gift was in the rules was a no no yet?[/quote6f0b631e85]
i specifically received an e-mail from brandarama a long time ago saying you can't sign up for the same gift twice, but you can sign up for as many different gifts as you'd like within the same site. pretty sure its been talked about around the forums a while back.

JANGALANG32

03-04-2009 06:46:51

[quote30fed3b442="kinneylamb"][quote30fed3b442="JANGALANG32"]
if you go to the store and buy something and then go back to the same store and steal the same thing you just bought should you also have to give back the product you bought? i know this isnt the same thing so it doesnt count but who knows if signing up for the same gift was in the rules was a no no yet?[/quote30fed3b442]
i specifically received an e-mail from brandarama a long time ago saying you can't sign up for the same gift twice, but you can sign up for as many different gifts as you'd like within the same site. pretty sure its been talked about around the forums a while back.[/quote30fed3b442]

i agree with that but is it right to take away all gifts? if i broke a rule that was in the rule book then i would have no problem giving that one gift back. but we are getting letters for violations that were not rules. i never came to this site until the gifts stopped shipping. i shouldnt need to know unwritten rules on emails and sponsor offers. if i violated a rule then i never should of went confirmed to ship and i never should of got a letter saying buy whatever i want. i honestly didnt create a new email to fraud anyone and my sponsor offer repeat was over a year a part. is this grounds for DQ?

RolltheStampede

03-04-2009 08:17:19

SO Next week is 10 weeks for a lot of people DQ letter or not.
So someone of all these forums should get a check.

oleus

03-04-2009 09:04:42

[quote977317c344="RolltheStampede"]SO Next week is 10 weeks for a lot of people DQ letter or not.
So someone of all these forums should get a check.[/quote977317c344]


hopefully "bump in the road '09" will be over "soon".

marbs4life

03-04-2009 09:30:25

Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.

desertwilite

03-04-2009 09:34:06

Did you do another gift site after 3/20?

marbs4life

03-04-2009 09:37:30

[quote59e1d46c90="desertwilite"]Did you do another gift site after 3/20?[/quote59e1d46c90]

Not since Jan. 2008

oleus

03-04-2009 09:39:28

[quote92d80aef6b="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quote92d80aef6b]

this is what i don't get - why are they asking for people to prove something they can very easily prove themselves with their own records?

desertwilite

03-04-2009 09:41:28

I guess we were expected to look into the future and just know what they would right up as "new rules"
WTF?

oleus

03-04-2009 09:46:44

[quoteba27b83867="desertwilite"]I guess we were expected to look into the future and just know what they would right up as "new rules"
WTF?[/quoteba27b83867]

seems like THEY are the ones breaking the rules now.

more funny business like this, all the more reason to let Mpell know exactly what is going on. like many others have said, they may be our only hope here.

how in the world can ARG start applying new terms and conditions to old deals???!?!!??!!!!!

which new rules are they asking to prove you followed?

mjforever

03-04-2009 09:47:59

[quotef31a4b920d="marbs4life"][quotef31a4b920d="desertwilite"]Did you do another gift site after 3/20?[/quotef31a4b920d]

Not since Jan. 2008[/quotef31a4b920d]


What happened to your gifts now??? Are you going to receive anything???? Or nothing???? OMG! This company is ridiculous!

JANGALANG32

03-04-2009 09:52:46

[quote2ff97e5ff7="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quote2ff97e5ff7]

they said "new" in the response

marbs4life

03-04-2009 09:57:52

[quote72e89af86c="JANGALANG32"][quote72e89af86c="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quote72e89af86c]

they said "new" in the response[/quote72e89af86c]

No, they pointed to sections in the gift rules that weren't in the old ones.... lol.

and asked for proof i kept the offers for the required time....

fanofpurple

03-04-2009 09:59:19

[quote2c9652ea5f="JANGALANG32"][quote2c9652ea5f="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quote2c9652ea5f]

they said "new" in the response[/quote2c9652ea5f]

That is absurd. They expect you to follow rules that didn't exist a year + ago??? How can they enforce rules that never existed? They didn't know these rules then - how were we supposed to.

PS600REVX

03-04-2009 10:00:23

[quote51f3532389="marbs4life"][quote51f3532389="JANGALANG32"][quote51f3532389="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quote51f3532389]

they said "new" in the response[/quote51f3532389]

No, they pointed to sections in the gift rules that weren't in the old ones.... lol.

and asked for proof i kept the offers for the required time....[/quote51f3532389]

Huh, that is utterly ridiculous. The new rule about time keeping offers would DQ 99.99% of all of us!!

JANGALANG32

03-04-2009 10:02:20

[quote1c970bc881="marbs4life"][quote1c970bc881="JANGALANG32"][quote1c970bc881="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quote1c970bc881]

they said "new" in the response[/quote1c970bc881]

No, they pointed to sections in the gift rules that weren't in the old ones.... lol.

and asked for proof i kept the offers for the required time....[/quote1c970bc881]

this is for the audit response, right? why would they even reply with this? they know what response they will get back

desertwilite

03-04-2009 10:06:25

ARG must think we are all stupid. They need to come up with a dated document that proves there were all of these rules already in place when these gift sites were actually being participated in. They are really grasping at straws now!!

oleus

03-04-2009 10:08:44

[quotee04523bc5f="JANGALANG32"][quotee04523bc5f="marbs4life"][quotee04523bc5f="JANGALANG32"][quotee04523bc5f="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quotee04523bc5f]

they said "new" in the response[/quotee04523bc5f]

No, they pointed to sections in the gift rules that weren't in the old ones.... lol.

and asked for proof i kept the offers for the required time....[/quotee04523bc5f]

this is for the audit response, right? why would they even reply with this? they know what response they will get back[/quotee04523bc5f]

EXACTLY . the whole audit/response nonsense doesn't even make sense. And these rules would DQ almost all of us I would imagine.

Go ahead and let them try this, they would just be making it easier for someone to win a claim against them in small claims court.

anyone still think they're getting a check next week? these first responses to the DQ audits don't even seem to be about repeating offers, it's about offer timeframe rules that weren't even on the horizon with the offfers a lot of us did as far back as 2007 (and that we are still waiting on)!

dubbin87

03-04-2009 10:09:07

wow, that's gay.

JANGALANG32

03-04-2009 10:17:34

[quote715d6d0a76="oleus"][quote715d6d0a76="JANGALANG32"][quote715d6d0a76="marbs4life"][quote715d6d0a76="JANGALANG32"][quote715d6d0a76="marbs4life"]Got a response.... they want me to prove that I followed the "new" rules and to have proof of it.


I also violated rules in the "NEW" rules.

THis company is fucking gay.[/quote715d6d0a76]

they said "new" in the response[/quote715d6d0a76]

No, they pointed to sections in the gift rules that weren't in the old ones.... lol.

and asked for proof i kept the offers for the required time....[/quote715d6d0a76]

this is for the audit response, right? why would they even reply with this? they know what response they will get back[/quote715d6d0a76]

EXACTLY . the whole audit/response nonsense doesn't even make sense. And these rules would DQ almost all of us I would imagine.

Go ahead and let them try this, they would just be making it easier for someone to win a claim against them in small claims court.

anyone still think they're getting a check next week? these first responses to the DQ audits don't even seem to be about repeating offers, it's about offer timeframe rules that weren't even on the horizon with the offfers a lot of us did as far back as 2007 (and that we are still waiting on)![/quote715d6d0a76]

i agree, this is just more documentation to show we are getting screwed over. im guessing all audit responses will be sent out today because there is no chance this company works on weekends

desertwilite

03-04-2009 10:19:58

I'm hoping this isn't some lame plan to just delay the checks long enough so that maybe there is some sort of cut off date for Mpel to go by for qualified accounts........ Like a term in ARG and Mpel's contract where only people that are fully qualified by such and such date will be honored .....not that it would be fair, but it seems like none of it is making any sense

oleus

03-04-2009 10:21:44

anyone else starting to suspect the first round of DQ letters were just testing the waters for a larger wave of BS?

dubbin87

03-04-2009 10:22:45

I bet Mpell is reeeeeeallly going to regret hooking up with ARG now.

oleus

03-04-2009 10:28:11

[quote45930190a9="desertwilite"]I'm hoping this isn't some lame plan to just delay the checks long enough so that maybe there is some sort of cut off date for Mpel to go by for qualified accounts........ Like a term in ARG and Mpel's contract where only people that are fully qualified by such and such date will be honored .....not that it would be fair, but it seems like none of it is making any sense[/quote45930190a9]

But according to the letters Mpell sent us all, we had fully qualified accounts, hence the "now go buy stuff with your own money to get reimbursed" step which we all rightfully thought to be the FINAL step.

ARG is treading very dangerous water here because of those letters and the fact that the burden was shifted to us to purchase items as part of our deals that had already been VERIFIED, CONFIRMED AND APPROVED!!

mariners1999

03-04-2009 10:31:51

[quoted795735eae="dubbin87"]I bet Mpell is reeeeeeallly going to regret hooking up with ARG now.[/quoted795735eae]


Yep. I know Mpell regrets taking this business from ARG and when they are named as co-defendants in a bunch of lawsuits I am sure they will REALLY be pissed.

All I can tell you is I have not gotten a DQ letter here on the west coast yet but I have already decided how I am going to handle it if I do.

I will respond via email and send a certified letter with my response and I am not going to wait for a response. I will file a lawsuit in small claims in my state and have them served ASAP. Then I am going to file with the NY attorney general to have them look at ARG and possibly fine them for what they are doing. We may not get our money but we can work hard to make sure they are put out of business so they don't do this to anyone else!

evil

oleus

03-04-2009 10:35:53

yep, what he just said.

i didn't receive a DQ letter either but what they're doing is appalling.

at least after next week we can start getting on Mpell about the 8-10 weeks shipment window. for better or worse Mpell is probably our only way of getting anything out of this, even if it means driving them crazy (politely) about living up to what was in the letters they sent us.

RolltheStampede

03-04-2009 10:39:55

Mpell is going to tell you you need to contact ARG and will giv you a phone number as they are already doing now.

dubbin87

03-04-2009 10:43:23

[quotee61519afa9="RolltheStampede"]Mpell is going to tell you you need to contact ARG and will giv you a phone number as they are already doing now.[/quotee61519afa9]

They can only pass the buck for so long...They crawled into bed with ARG without fully checking them out they can take some of the heat too.

desertwilite

03-04-2009 10:44:06

Since Mpel is involved with our payments now, has anyone copied them also when sending in their audit responses? I wonder if they would be interested in the accusations.

marbs4life

03-04-2009 10:54:22

[quote4ee4452a55="desertwilite"]Since Mpel is involved with our payments now, has anyone copied them also when sending in their audit responses? I wonder if they would be interested in the accusations.[/quote4ee4452a55]

They are not, just say to contact ARG

ohboyitsryan

03-04-2009 11:07:13

ARG took control of the reigns again, as Mpell is dircting all inquires back to them. I spoke with Brandarama about an hour ago, the csr told me that mpell knows nothing about shipping times, and to direct all calls to Brandarama from now on.

On a lighter note, the csr told me that 'a lot of people will be receiving checks. they will be sent out on a staggered weekly basis, and checks HAVE been shipped out already".

The checks will be coming from Mpell in California. I forgot to ask the order of shipping though, be it by cash back approval date or name. I can call again later or shoot an email and ask.

chewy

03-04-2009 11:07:36

just when you think arg couldnt get any worse, they do something like this. I wonder what they may try next. They must be shooting darts at a dart board full of stupid ideas to try to save themselves.

It would be interesting to sit in on the meetings that they must have there

jtackman

03-04-2009 11:08:01

that's the last straw...im filing monday in small claims. I have way over 5000$ in gifts but ill name mpell as a defendant too )

zr2152

03-04-2009 11:15:44

[quoteec29c0f9b0="oleus"][quoteec29c0f9b0="desertwilite"]I'm hoping this isn't some lame plan to just delay the checks long enough so that maybe there is some sort of cut off date for Mpel to go by for qualified accounts........ Like a term in ARG and Mpel's contract where only people that are fully qualified by such and such date will be honored .....not that it would be fair, but it seems like none of it is making any sense[/quoteec29c0f9b0]

But according to the letters Mpell sent us all, we had fully qualified accounts, hence the "now go buy stuff with your own money to get reimbursed" step which we all rightfully thought to be the FINAL step.

ARG is treading very dangerous water here because of those letters and the fact that the burden was shifted to us to purchase items as part of our deals that had already been VERIFIED, CONFIRMED AND APPROVED!![/quoteec29c0f9b0]

[bec29c0f9b0]This is probably the most relevant thing said throughout the whole discussion of a lawsuit. This is the thing that all of you should truly be fighting.[/bec29c0f9b0] You were cts by ARG and then told that all you had to do was "choose your own gift" and send them the receipt and that you would then be reimbursed.

That was the final step, not another approval process after the receipts were already sent in.

Eeyore

03-04-2009 11:33:20

[quotef41ee2b5d2="oleus"]anyone else starting to suspect the first round of DQ letters were just testing the waters for a larger wave of BS?[/quotef41ee2b5d2]
This is already a tsunami of BS.
Keep track of dates, times, amounts and communications. Those will come in handy if you do find someone to take the case. The latest--requiring compliance with rules which didn't come into play until two years into the future--may be their undoing.

bruman

03-04-2009 11:42:46

[quote945ae918df="Eeyore"][quote945ae918df="oleus"]anyone else starting to suspect the first round of DQ letters were just testing the waters for a larger wave of BS?[/quote945ae918df]
This is already a tsunami of BS.
Keep track of dates, times, amounts and communications. Those will come in handy if you do find someone to take the case. The latest--requiring compliance with rules which didn't come into play until two years into the future--may be their undoing.[/quote945ae918df]

If they are going by processing date and received yours Jan 28th than yours may already be shipped. Since the letters are coming from mpell they should be able to know who went shipped or not and also the method of order for shipping them out.

manOFice

03-04-2009 11:44:02

so mpell says they haven't shipped anything but brandarama says mpell has shipped things already...right

bruman

03-04-2009 11:47:29

[quoted5931764aa="manOFice"]so mpell says they haven't shipped anything but brandarama says mpell has shipped things already...right[/quoted5931764aa]

No ones even asked if mpell has shipped any checks out.. just general shipping information regarding how and when shipping will be handled (which is up to ARG).

manOFice

03-04-2009 11:49:38

[quotedcc5c000c7="bruman"][quotedcc5c000c7="manOFice"]so mpell says they haven't shipped anything but brandarama says mpell has shipped things already...right[/quotedcc5c000c7]

No ones even asked if mpell has shipped any checks out.. just general shipping information regarding how and when shipping will be handled (which is up to ARG).[/quotedcc5c000c7]

I'll call now and ask

Is it mpell inc or mpell solutions

bruman

03-04-2009 11:54:05

[quote80a10e5820="manOFice"][quote80a10e5820="bruman"][quote80a10e5820="manOFice"]so mpell says they haven't shipped anything but brandarama says mpell has shipped things already...right[/quote80a10e5820]

No ones even asked if mpell has shipped any checks out.. just general shipping information regarding how and when shipping will be handled (which is up to ARG).[/quote80a10e5820]

I'll call now and ask

Is it mpell inc or mpell solutions[/quote80a10e5820]

Solutions

800.450.1575

manOFice

03-04-2009 11:56:35

[quote0dae051d2a="bruman"][quote0dae051d2a="manOFice"][quote0dae051d2a="bruman"][quote0dae051d2a="manOFice"]so mpell says they haven't shipped anything but brandarama says mpell has shipped things already...right[/quote0dae051d2a]

No ones even asked if mpell has shipped any checks out.. just general shipping information regarding how and when shipping will be handled (which is up to ARG).[/quote0dae051d2a]

I'll call now and ask

Is it mpell inc or mpell solutions[/quote0dae051d2a]

Solutions

800.450.1575[/quote0dae051d2a]

They wouldn't even look up my account, she said everything has to be answered by ARG. But I was persistent and asked if they have shipped anyones from ARG out and she said no. And she did confirm they are sending the money out not ARG

bruman

03-04-2009 12:03:48

[quoted04e1d8f68="manOFice"][quoted04e1d8f68="bruman"][quoted04e1d8f68="manOFice"][quoted04e1d8f68="bruman"][quoted04e1d8f68="manOFice"]so mpell says they haven't shipped anything but brandarama says mpell has shipped things already...right[/quoted04e1d8f68]

No ones even asked if mpell has shipped any checks out.. just general shipping information regarding how and when shipping will be handled (which is up to ARG).[/quoted04e1d8f68]

I'll call now and ask

Is it mpell inc or mpell solutions[/quoted04e1d8f68]

Solutions

800.450.1575[/quoted04e1d8f68]

They wouldn't even look up my account, she said everything has to be answered by ARG. But I was persistent and asked if they have shipped anyones from ARG out and she said no. And she did confirm they are sending the money out not ARG[/quoted04e1d8f68]

Interesting.. I don't see what ARG's motive would be to lie about it, considering that the truth of the matter will be revealed a few days thereafter. I do wonder how much CS representatives are told about the actual situation.. they probably still know more than us but there's definitely a wall between them in the higher ups who do make the actual decisions.

oleus

03-04-2009 12:10:09

that's the second or third time an ARG csr has mentioned that some checks have already been shipped - wouldn't someone have reported something by today if this was true?

and "staggered delivery". we all know with ARG this could mean 4 weeks or a year.

desertwilite

03-04-2009 12:27:26

[quotef125e57bce="oleus"]that's the second or third time an ARG csr has mentioned that some checks have already been shipped - wouldn't someone have reported something by today if this was true?

and "staggered delivery". we all know with ARG this could mean 4 weeks or a year.[/quotef125e57bce]

I thought they meant that ARG started sending checks to Mpel to send to us. Geez that sounds dumb when I read it back.

At this point I want free balloons and clapping too LOL lol

RolltheStampede

03-04-2009 12:33:21

well ARG did pay put like 3 forum people. the one guy got like half his money so technically they have sent checks, just not to mpell.

jtackman

03-04-2009 12:34:04

i am going to keep calling them all day on my untraceable skype account and then hang up every time they answer

oleus

03-04-2009 12:35:19

[quote5f1db9c7fb="RolltheStampede"]well ARG did pay put like 3 forum people. the one guy got like half his money so technically they have sent checks, just not to mpell.[/quote5f1db9c7fb]

yeah i was afraid that the checks they mentioned were probably those stray, random checks that seemed to pop up a week or two ago that were unrelated to the whole mpell letter.....

RolltheStampede

03-04-2009 12:38:11

[quotec3ffec285b="jtackman"]i am going to keep calling them all day on my untraceable skype account and then hang up every time they answer[/quotec3ffec285b]

yeah how about you dont i have a hard enough time getting through as it is

oleus

03-04-2009 12:42:59

[quote1d4de77a30="RolltheStampede"][quote1d4de77a30="jtackman"]i am going to keep calling them all day on my untraceable skype account and then hang up every time they answer[/quote1d4de77a30]

yeah how about you dont i have a hard enough time getting through as it is[/quote1d4de77a30]

no kidding that's the last thing we need right now. at least ask "where's my money" before hanging up. lol

ashilef

03-04-2009 12:45:28

Ok, I'm confused. So who has already sent out checks? Mpell or ARG? Are these rebate checks or some other crap that doesn't have anything to do with us?

oleus

03-04-2009 12:49:45

[quotebfca15c6d0="ashilef"]Ok, I'm confused. So who has already sent out checks? Mpell or ARG? Are these rebate checks or some other crap that doesn't have anything to do with us?[/quotebfca15c6d0]

Mpell is now referring ALL inquiries to ARG saying they are handling shipment. Somewhere along the line someone was told ARG then sends the money to Mpell to send to us (?). ARG also claims they have sent checks this week but no one has seen anything yet other than random brandarama checks that seem unrelated to the Mpell certificates and were paid out separately. So in all of that you can see why we are all confused and frustrated, even though ARG is claiming "alot" of us will be seeing checks "soon".

LucaBella

03-04-2009 12:52:31

[quote41ce0add48="jtackman"]i am going to keep calling them all day on my untraceable skype account and then hang up every time they answer[/quote41ce0add48]



so dumb, I just loved it. but yeah.. don't!

suburbangirl

03-04-2009 13:15:02

I got this email from Mpell today

Hello,
Reimbursements are scheduled to begin within the next two weeks.
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575

chewy

03-04-2009 13:17:07

[quote0c336a2454="suburbangirl"]I got this email from Mpell today

Hello,
Reimbursements are scheduled to begin within the next two weeks.
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575[/quote0c336a2454]

haha, now its 2 weeks

LucaBella

03-04-2009 13:19:53

Thats what they've been saying for a while now... means nothing...

oleus

03-04-2009 13:25:33

[quoteb4a0c396ec="LucaBella"]Thats what they've been saying for a while now... means nothing...[/quoteb4a0c396ec]

it's the first time they've put an exact timeframe on it

and it also contradicts what ARG is saying about the checks already shipping.

ILoveToys

03-04-2009 13:27:52

[quote4d67bca279="zr2152"][quote4d67bca279="oleus"][quote4d67bca279="desertwilite"]I'm hoping this isn't some lame plan to just delay the checks long enough so that maybe there is some sort of cut off date for Mpel to go by for qualified accounts........ Like a term in ARG and Mpel's contract where only people that are fully qualified by such and such date will be honored .....not that it would be fair, but it seems like none of it is making any sense[/quote4d67bca279]

But according to the letters Mpell sent us all, we had fully qualified accounts, hence the "now go buy stuff with your own money to get reimbursed" step which we all rightfully thought to be the FINAL step.

ARG is treading very dangerous water here because of those letters and the fact that the burden was shifted to us to purchase items as part of our deals that had already been VERIFIED, CONFIRMED AND APPROVED!![/quote4d67bca279]

[b4d67bca279]This is probably the most relevant thing said throughout the whole discussion of a lawsuit. This is the thing that all of you should truly be fighting.[/b4d67bca279] You were cts by ARG and then told that all you had to do was "choose your own gift" and send them the receipt and that you would then be reimbursed.

That was the final step, not another approval process after the receipts were already sent in.[/quote4d67bca279]

It doesn't matter when you get caught if it is in fact fraud. Just because they thought everyone was fine, and found it out later doesn't make them liable to people who may have completed the sites by frauding offers or breaking rules.

Heck, back in the day Gratis had a disclaimer in their rules saying that if they shipped a gift and later found out you had committed offer fraud that they had the right to come back to you for that gift.

bruman

03-04-2009 13:31:33

[quote2459032bca="oleus"][quote2459032bca="LucaBella"]Thats what they've been saying for a while now... means nothing...[/quote2459032bca]

it's the first time they've put an exact timeframe on it

and it also contradicts what ARG is saying about the checks already shipping.[/quote2459032bca]

They've previously said the date of April 17th as the day for checks to start shipping.

ohboyitsryan

03-04-2009 14:00:41

[quote335fcdc10c="bruman"][quote335fcdc10c="oleus"][quote335fcdc10c="LucaBella"]Thats what they've been saying for a while now... means nothing...[/quote335fcdc10c]

it's the first time they've put an exact timeframe on it

and it also contradicts what ARG is saying about the checks already shipping.[/quote335fcdc10c]

They've previously said the date of April 17th as the day for checks to start shipping.[/quote335fcdc10c]

when was this stated? via phone or email? that would be unfortunate, as it would push me closer to 11 weeks, maybe even 12. I was cash back approved on 1/29. I'm really pulling for a delivery next week still...

dougp70

03-04-2009 14:02:46

I can't believe some of you are waiting for thousands of dollars, and have been for almost 2 years. I'm only waiting on $500 for which I went cts in Oct 08, and I'm so frustrated I can hardly think straight. I'll be glad when this is over. I'm not sure I'll be doing any more freebie sites.

oleus

03-04-2009 14:24:30

[quote996bbad046="dougp70"]I can't believe some of you are waiting for thousands of dollars, and have been for almost 2 years. I'm only waiting on $500 for which I went cts in Oct 08, and I'm so frustrated I can hardly think straight. I'll be glad when this is over. I'm not sure I'll be doing any more freebie sites.[/quote996bbad046]

yeah, i turned a coworker onto YTB when the wait was only 6 months back in '07. he did some offers and he's still waiting. needless to say he doesn't think i gave him very good advice.

ohboyitsryan

03-04-2009 14:38:35

I've been waiting a year, and I know it's not as long as the Oct '07 people but it's still pretty painful. Although, I would MUCH rather deal with this drama post-cash back with Mpell rather than the era of weekly calls to Kim telling us brandarama was 14-16 months behind on shipping with no end in sight.

neverendingmoolah

03-04-2009 14:46:25

[quoteaf9c489f2b="oleus"][quoteaf9c489f2b="dougp70"]I can't believe some of you are waiting for thousands of dollars, and have been for almost 2 years. I'm only waiting on $500 for which I went cts in Oct 08, and I'm so frustrated I can hardly think straight. I'll be glad when this is over. I'm not sure I'll be doing any more freebie sites.[/quoteaf9c489f2b]

yeah, i turned a coworker onto YTB when the wait was only 6 months back in '07. he did some offers and he's still waiting. needless to say he doesn't think i gave him very good advice.[/quoteaf9c489f2b]

Same here. I have friends anf family members who followed my lead and got started in '07. Unfortunately they are still waiting for their first real payment from the DIY's. I feel so bad..... (

hawke12

03-04-2009 14:53:00

It's no wonder people think Freebie sites are "Scams", when ya got Sh@t like this happening.

ikeepsecrets

03-04-2009 14:55:11

[quotec3fea36624="hawke12"]It's no wonder people think Freebie sites are "Scams", when ya got Sh@t like this happening.[/quotec3fea36624]
Couldnt have said it better.

I feel like an ass for having some friends do sites. Im so sick of this bullshit, they are even more so

ryndne

03-04-2009 15:05:28

[quote807bcff1a2="oleus"]that's the second or third time an ARG csr has mentioned that some checks have already been shipped - wouldn't someone have reported something by today if this was true?

and "staggered delivery". we all know with ARG this could mean 4 weeks or a year.[/quote807bcff1a2]

sometimes when i make it to the point of "staggering" i dont even make it home...

zr2152

03-04-2009 15:14:30

[quote25b95be566="ILoveToys"][quote25b95be566="zr2152"][quote25b95be566="oleus"][quote25b95be566="desertwilite"]I'm hoping this isn't some lame plan to just delay the checks long enough so that maybe there is some sort of cut off date for Mpel to go by for qualified accounts........ Like a term in ARG and Mpel's contract where only people that are fully qualified by such and such date will be honored .....not that it would be fair, but it seems like none of it is making any sense[/quote25b95be566]

But according to the letters Mpell sent us all, we had fully qualified accounts, hence the "now go buy stuff with your own money to get reimbursed" step which we all rightfully thought to be the FINAL step.

ARG is treading very dangerous water here because of those letters and the fact that the burden was shifted to us to purchase items as part of our deals that had already been VERIFIED, CONFIRMED AND APPROVED!![/quote25b95be566]

[b25b95be566]This is probably the most relevant thing said throughout the whole discussion of a lawsuit. This is the thing that all of you should truly be fighting.[/b25b95be566] You were cts by ARG and then told that all you had to do was "choose your own gift" and send them the receipt and that you would then be reimbursed.

That was the final step, not another approval process after the receipts were already sent in.[/quote25b95be566]

It doesn't matter when you get caught if it is in fact fraud. Just because they thought everyone was fine, and found it out later doesn't make them liable to people who may have completed the sites by frauding offers or breaking rules.

Heck, back in the day Gratis had a disclaimer in their rules saying that if they shipped a gift and later found out you had committed offer fraud that they had the right to come back to you for that gift.[/quote25b95be566]


yeah but I'm not talking about offer fraud (completing the same offers under different email addresses) but rather the multiple email address issue and keeping the offers for a required amount of time.

bennyboy5768

03-04-2009 15:20:57

Nothing in California today. Honestly I have no idea if i'll be getting a letter or not so don't bother asking.

RolltheStampede

03-04-2009 16:00:39

[quote3368d9a0ad] End User License Agreement - 08/24/2007[/quote3368d9a0ad]

the Eula is even dated wrong

hawke12

03-04-2009 16:15:31

[quote2457dbc4a5="RolltheStampede"][quote2457dbc4a5] End User License Agreement - 08/24/2007[/quote2457dbc4a5]

the Eula is even dated wrong[/quote2457dbc4a5]

It's not dated wrong, They're trying to Backdate it...imo

kinneylamb

03-04-2009 16:36:40

ugh this whole thing is more difficult now because of brandarama customer service. they have new people who dont seem to know the situation so theyre quick to throw the ball back in your court when it's really in theirs.

kinneylamb

03-04-2009 16:44:22

ah damn i just got a voicemail from best buy. they want me to pay $550 more because the price went up on the tv i bought 2 weeks ago. its in their EULA dated 7/2010.

i forgot we live in some communist dictatorship nation. where all companies do this.

tiffrnwhitney

03-04-2009 16:51:42

Ok, I have looked back through the posts, is the EULA with the wrong date still on the sites? I am trying to find my printed copy to compare. I also confused and overwhelmed. Grrrrrrr

manOFice

03-04-2009 16:58:12

i almost got my friends into this, glad I didn't

ohboyitsryan

03-04-2009 17:38:03

mpell/ARG will come through for the unaudited. the 8-10 week window has not closed for anybody yet, so once a lot of us get paid you guys will feel a bit better for getting your people involved as well. next week will be judgment week, as we will finally get some indicators into the actuality of shipping times. many of us, myself included, reach the 10 week mark in the middle of next week...crunch time starts on Monday.

RyanG

03-04-2009 17:55:42

I love it, by the time I get the canned response I won't have any time to refute it.

RolltheStampede

03-04-2009 18:05:08

http//www.brandarama.com/lch.php?lk=1101&bid=1

And I bet that watermelon isnt even sweet.

mjforever

03-04-2009 18:07:45

[quote7c51095486="RolltheStampede"]http//www.brandarama.com/lch.php?lk=1101&bid=1

And I bet that watermelon isnt even sweet.[/quote7c51095486]

lol...you betcha!

tiffrnwhitney

03-04-2009 18:31:08

I just spit my water out after looking at that!!! I had NO idea what the watermelon comment was about. LMFAO lol
Thanks for the laugh, I SO needed it!

bruman

03-04-2009 18:32:39

[quote003f009472="RolltheStampede"][quote003f009472] End User License Agreement - 08/24/2007[/quote003f009472]

the Eula is even dated wrong[/quote003f009472]

I don't even know what you're talking about or where you are quoting from but their 8/24/2007 EULA is here[=http//74.125.95.132/search?q=cachefZDFKSlF5UoJwww.brandarama.com/lch2.php%3Flk%3D430%26bid%3D1%26sesp%3D395_0+brandarama+EULA+%22Aug+24,+2007%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a&gl=us&strip=0]here

tiffrnwhitney

03-04-2009 19:21:46

thanks for posting the EULA Bruman, I couldn't find my copy.

edgespeeder04

03-04-2009 19:51:03

These last 20 pages are so random and useless, I come home for work looking to read something useful and I give up. I'll just wait on stuff my own and read all this crap whenever I have as much free time as you all seem to have.

Can't you all take this off topic and actually post when something goes on with MPELL?

RyanG

04-04-2009 10:36:54

[quotec72be00fde="edgespeeder04"]These last 20 pages are so random and useless, I come home for work looking to read something useful and I give up. I'll just wait on stuff my own and read all this crap whenever I have as much free time as you all seem to have.

Can't you all take this off topic and actually post when something goes on with MPELL?[/quotec72be00fde]

Mostly discussion has been dealing with relevant topics between ARG and Mpell. I'm so sorry you had to come home from work and see 20 pages of replies.

ghounds07

04-04-2009 10:50:43

[quoted6c9c2b66f="neverendingmoolah"][quoted6c9c2b66f="oleus"][quoted6c9c2b66f="dougp70"]I can't believe some of you are waiting for thousands of dollars, and have been for almost 2 years. I'm only waiting on $500 for which I went cts in Oct 08, and I'm so frustrated I can hardly think straight. I'll be glad when this is over. I'm not sure I'll be doing any more freebie sites.[/quoted6c9c2b66f]

yeah, i turned a coworker onto YTB when the wait was only 6 months back in '07. he did some offers and he's still waiting. needless to say he doesn't think i gave him very good advice.[/quoted6c9c2b66f]

Same here. I have friends anf family members who followed my lead and got started in '07. Unfortunately they are still waiting for their first real payment from the DIY's. I feel so bad..... ([/quoted6c9c2b66f]

I know this whole situation sucks for people just starting a DIY site since they get a bad impression of it, however there is still nothing else that I can think of where you invest ~$30 and get $1,000 2 years later (even though the wait is painful hah).

ashilef

04-04-2009 10:52:18

[quote632c341118="edgespeeder04"]These last 20 pages are so random and useless, I come home for work looking to read something useful and I give up. I'll just wait on stuff my own and read all this crap whenever I have as much free time as you all seem to have.

Can't you all take this off topic and actually post when something goes on with MPELL?[/quote632c341118]

violin

I didn't know people receiving audit letters, and trying to figure out a legal way of fighting it was considered "off-topic". roll You actually just wasted my time by posting this, if you are just going to "wait on your stuff" then by all means do it. No need to announce it to the world.

A useless post, responding to a useless post... lisighli

hawke12

04-04-2009 11:05:57

[quote49a6a8bd4e="ghounds07"]nothing else that I can think of where you invest ~$30 and get $1,000 2 years later (even though the wait is painful hah).[/quote49a6a8bd4e]

As long as you aren't targeted for Being DQ'd.

FreeOffersNow

04-04-2009 11:14:02

[quotef2b9e60f17="hawke12"][quotef2b9e60f17="ghounds07"]nothing else that I can think of where you invest ~$30 and get $1,000 2 years later (even though the wait is painful hah).[/quotef2b9e60f17]

As long as you aren't targeted for Being DQ'd.[/quotef2b9e60f17]


It's all about representations, and expectations formed based on them.

I think the issue is that, if payments are never disbursed, the overwhelming majority will feel they are out $1,000, not ~$30. I'm not saying I necessarily feel that way, but wouldn't you agree?

ghounds07

04-04-2009 11:17:19

[quote08783cd4e6="FreeOffersNow"][quote08783cd4e6="hawke12"][quote08783cd4e6="ghounds07"]nothing else that I can think of where you invest ~$30 and get $1,000 2 years later (even though the wait is painful hah).[/quote08783cd4e6]

As long as you aren't targeted for Being DQ'd.[/quote08783cd4e6]


It's all about representations, and expectations formed based on them.

I think the issue is that, if payments are never disbursed, the overwhelming majority will feel they are out $1,000, not ~$30. I'm not saying I necessarily feel that way, but wouldn't you agree?[/quote08783cd4e6]

I see what you're saying, but I myself had exactly $1,000 that I got receipts for without spending any money, so not exactly out $1,000. However it did add more work to the process so I'll say my time was worth $50, so only spent $80 total D

slambam

04-04-2009 11:44:29

[quote02e3bf5de8="suburbangirl"]I got this email from Mpell today

Hello,
Reimbursements are scheduled to begin within the next two weeks.
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575[/quote02e3bf5de8]

A couple keywords... "scheduled" and "begin"...

[quote02e3bf5de8="chewy"]just when you think arg couldnt get any worse, they do something like this. I wonder what they may try next. They must be shooting darts at a dart board full of stupid ideas to try to save themselves.

It would be interesting to sit in on the meetings that they must have there[/quote02e3bf5de8]

If I had to guess, I'd say the convo went something like...

January 5th, 2009
Jackass #1 "Ah shit we're out of money? What are we gonna do?"
Jackass #2 "Screw it, let's go back through all the rules and DQ people."
Jackass #1 "But we barely HAVE any rules!"
Jackass #2 "Yea, but it's never too late to make them up."
Jackass #1 "Well.... is that even legal?"
Jackass #2 "What else we gonna do? Plus, do you expect people to fight it?"
Jackass #1 "Ok, I guess your right. But what about our reputation if they do fight it?"
Jackass #2 "Are you serious? Our reputation is already shit."
Jackass #1 "Haha, OK your right. But wait, I got another idea! Let's stimulate the economy and fuck our customers over even more! Just have people buy things, and we'll tell them we'll reimburse them for what they bought."
Jackass #2 "I like the way you think!"

But in all seriousness, nothing for me this week. I'm in Iowa. Did anybody ask if they're done sending out the audit letters? I wish they would stop f'n around and just be honest. As much as I hope mpell starts with the checks next week, I'm not holding my breath. By the time they get the $ from ARG and we get our checks it'll be May at the earliest. mpell is certainly kicking themselves. I'd love to see the details to the deal mpell/ARG made.

jtackman

04-04-2009 11:57:53

mpell is gonna hate getting involved with them, thats all im going to say on the issue

Zags1199

04-04-2009 12:30:43

You keep saying that you're going to sue them or take legal action, yet have you actually done anything?

ohboyitsryan

04-04-2009 13:20:11

[quote1bd124e9b8="ghounds07"][quote1bd124e9b8="FreeOffersNow"][quote1bd124e9b8="hawke12"][quote1bd124e9b8="ghounds07"]nothing else that I can think of where you invest ~$30 and get $1,000 2 years later (even though the wait is painful hah).[/quote1bd124e9b8]

As long as you aren't targeted for Being DQ'd.[/quote1bd124e9b8]


It's all about representations, and expectations formed based on them.

I think the issue is that, if payments are never disbursed, the overwhelming majority will feel they are out $1,000, not ~$30. I'm not saying I necessarily feel that way, but wouldn't you agree?[/quote1bd124e9b8]

I see what you're saying, but I myself had exactly $1,000 that I got receipts for without spending any money, so not exactly out $1,000. However it did add more work to the process so I'll say my time was worth $50, so only spent $80 total D[/quote1bd124e9b8]

relax on all that talk about avoiding cash back expenditures, man and let it be. congrats for jumping through a loophole but try not to inadvertently implicate yourself on here or any other forums for that matter, you know? ARG is looking for ways to DQ. you wouldn't want people trying to snitch on you...just looking out.

jtackman

04-04-2009 13:25:40

i gave them until apr 17th to send out the checks or i will sue and yes, i actually will..

ghounds07

04-04-2009 13:42:28

[quote27c7e04e4a="ohboyitsryan"][quote27c7e04e4a="ghounds07"][quote27c7e04e4a="FreeOffersNow"][quote27c7e04e4a="hawke12"][quote27c7e04e4a="ghounds07"]nothing else that I can think of where you invest ~$30 and get $1,000 2 years later (even though the wait is painful hah).[/quote27c7e04e4a]

As long as you aren't targeted for Being DQ'd.[/quote27c7e04e4a]


It's all about representations, and expectations formed based on them.

I think the issue is that, if payments are never disbursed, the overwhelming majority will feel they are out $1,000, not ~$30. I'm not saying I necessarily feel that way, but wouldn't you agree?[/quote27c7e04e4a]

I see what you're saying, but I myself had exactly $1,000 that I got receipts for without spending any money, so not exactly out $1,000. However it did add more work to the process so I'll say my time was worth $50, so only spent $80 total D[/quote27c7e04e4a]

relax on all that talk about avoiding cash back expenditures, man and let it be. congrats for jumping through a loophole but try not to inadvertently implicate yourself on here or any other forums for that matter, you know? ARG is looking for ways to DQ. you wouldn't want people trying to snitch on you...just looking out.[/quote27c7e04e4a]

Yeah, I've just been on this forum, but I have posted about it before on here. I only post about it because it is 100% legit, and Mpell even stated themselves that there is nothing wrong with it. I'm just letting people know that there are options for this redemption process and that there is no need to worry about people snitching on me since I abided by the rules. But you may have a point since ARG might create a new rule and try to make people in the wrong hah.

kinneylamb

04-04-2009 14:39:53

arg has all new csr(s) so re-read into everything they tell you, and take everything they say with a grain of salt.

btw
[bc05f10a6d0]wasn't anybody here confirmed to be shipped since january '09? haven't heard updates about them and their gifts.[/bc05f10a6d0]

kwoodyk34k

04-04-2009 15:40:24

[quote7533e591f3="kinneylamb"]arg has all new csr(s) so re-read into everything they tell you, and take everything they say with a grain of salt.

btw
[b7533e591f3]wasn't anybody here confirmed to be shipped since january '09? haven't heard updates about them and their gifts.[/b7533e591f3][/quote7533e591f3]

I was CTS for something Jan 16 so it didn't make it into the last certificate batch.

I was told to wait... um... I don't remember... either 4-6 or 6-8 weeks to receive an MPELL certificate for it. I don't even care though. I just want the money owed to me in '07-'08. Maybe if I get that I'll bring it up again but, meh.

RolltheStampede

04-04-2009 16:03:04

[quotea7ee20faf9="bruman"][quotea7ee20faf9="RolltheStampede"][quotea7ee20faf9] End User License Agreement - 08/24/2007[/quotea7ee20faf9]

the Eula is even dated wrong[/quotea7ee20faf9]

I don't even know what you're talking about or where you are quoting from but their 8/24/2007 EULA is here[=http//74.125.95.132/search?q=cachefZDFKSlF5UoJwww.brandarama.com/lch2.php%3Flk%3D430%26bid%3D1%26sesp%3D395_0+brandarama+EULA+%22Aug+24,+2007%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a&gl=us&strip=0]here[/quotea7ee20faf9]

That is from the bramdarama site it say 8/24.07 on the main page but when you click it goes to the one they made a week or so ago.

ploppsdman

05-04-2009 09:11:14

For those of you who have gotten a disqualifying letter, can you still log into your accounts? I'm trying to figure out a way to tell if I received one, as I've been away for a few weeks.

Zags1199

05-04-2009 11:42:15

Yeah, they have still been able to login.

marbs4life

05-04-2009 12:45:48

[quote78899fe3b3="Zags1199"]Yeah, they have still been able to login.[/quote78899fe3b3]

Not I, or 3 other people I know that got them.

soccerbud

05-04-2009 18:07:52

[quote361033beb2="marbs4life"][quote361033beb2="Zags1199"]Yeah, they have still been able to login.[/quote361033beb2]

Not I, or 3 other people I know that got them.[/quote361033beb2]
haven't received a DQ letter yet, but i can't log into a few of my BR accounts

so I guess I am about to receive a DQ letter soon /

mistertomlinson

05-04-2009 18:31:02

[quote15f5a13d8e="soccerbud"][quote15f5a13d8e="marbs4life"][quote15f5a13d8e="Zags1199"]Yeah, they have still been able to login.[/quote15f5a13d8e]

Not I, or 3 other people I know that got them.[/quote15f5a13d8e]
haven't received a DQ letter yet, but i can't log into a few of my BR accounts

so I guess I am about to receive a DQ letter soon /[/quote15f5a13d8e]

I've had trouble logging into my accounts before. It doesn't necessarily mean anything.

bruman

05-04-2009 19:37:19

There are specific error codes for not logging in.. you're going to have to ask someone who received one and can't log-in what their error message is.

JANGALANG32

05-04-2009 20:18:37

i got a letter and can log in and see all my info...they still say cts

soccerbud

05-04-2009 23:12:52

[quotee6a247189a="bruman"]There are specific error codes for not logging in.. you're going to have to ask someone who received one and can't log-in what their error message is.[/quotee6a247189a]

the error msg is as follows
Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)

[quotee6a247189a="JANGALANG32"]i got a letter and can log in and see all my info...they still say cts[/quotee6a247189a]

ahh i see, i guess there is no rhyme or reason to brandarama's thinking /

jtackman

05-04-2009 23:43:19

they are probably just scaring us. im not loggin in though. that may constitute acceptance of the new terms. I havent logged in for over 6 months anyway as i wrote them off that long ago

kinneylamb

06-04-2009 04:10:25

if you haven't gotten a dq letter for dec07-dec08 gifts, then most likely you won't be getting one.

hawke12

06-04-2009 05:29:27

[quote0d92127344="soccerbud"]the error msg is as follows
Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)
[/quote0d92127344]

I have that error code as well on one of my 2 sites. The first site I completed logs in just fine.

When I contacted support on friday about this, they replied this

[quote0d92127344="Kim From Brandarama"]
Reference number xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Subject Gift tracking

Dear Hawke12,

Thank you for contacting us.

It is because when you signed up with us you did not provide an address. You need a full address and your zip code on here as a zip code is required when you log in.

Please provide your address and we can then get it updated in the system.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Kim
HouseHoldSavingsClub Member Support
[/quote0d92127344]

I sent the address info, yesterday.

neverendingmoolah

06-04-2009 09:35:11

I was processed by Mpell on 2/4/09 for all 4 certs. It's been two months.
We are going into week ten. So we wait.....

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 09:44:09

Thursday marks the 10th week for me. I'm hoping for a significant update within the next couple of days in regards to estimated shipping times/schedules.

oleus

06-04-2009 09:47:47

[quote35e18df5fe="ohboyitsryan"]Thursday marks the 10th week for me. I'm hoping for a significant update within the next couple of days in regards to estimated shipping times/schedules.[/quote35e18df5fe]

i wouldn't hold your breath.

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 09:51:53

I'm not...just optimistic about an estimate, at least. will contact them within a few days.

edgespeeder04

06-04-2009 09:54:37

haha wow Mpell just sent me a check for $10, wtf???? Hows that for an update? At least they paid me something now lol proof will be up later

oleus

06-04-2009 10:04:57

WTF?

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 10:13:46

[quote3a2ec56098="edgespeeder04"]haha wow Mpell just sent me a check for $10, wtf???? Hows that for an update? At least they paid me something now lol proof will be up later[/quote3a2ec56098]

wasnt that for that rebate book that you were talking about before. Dont get people speculating.

bruman

06-04-2009 10:14:54

[quote512282f29d="edgespeeder04"]haha wow Mpell just sent me a check for $10, wtf???? Hows that for an update? At least they paid me something now lol proof will be up later[/quote512282f29d]

Was that for that reputation defender free gas thingy?

mjforever

06-04-2009 10:22:35

[quoteb454906f04="edgespeeder04"]haha wow Mpell just sent me a check for $10, wtf???? Hows that for an update? At least they paid me something now lol proof will be up later[/quoteb454906f04]


lol...lucky you! You received $10 bucks. I don't receive any penny yet except a letter from brandarama.

imapepper

06-04-2009 11:02:48

mpell has stated they are sending one combined check....

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 13:09:28

Lol, I received my letter today in Illinois dated March 27.

Wtf its that? It doesn't even say failed delivery or anything and someone is home 24/7. My Post Office blows.

They got me for

-Clever Clasp more than a year apart.

-Blockbuster... in Dec 07 it was a 2 week trial.. October 08 was I paid for a "month w/ $25 Visa gift card."

- eFax twice because I decided to abandon the gift the first time I did it and never even submitted the form.

-US Grant which I had absolutely no idea I repeated... I think one was a long time ago and then they disguised it with Obama on the picture so I did it again. All those Grant Sites looks the same.

So for these 4 repeats I am out a lot of money... I'm not going to say because idiots will say "OMG U DESERVED IT CUZ U ABUSED THE SYSTEM!!!!"

I'll just say that those 4 repeats made up less that 5% of the total offers I completed, lol.

I sent them an e-mail... I think it's day 10 today, right? So I should at least have my response in on time.

I basically said please point out which rule I broke in your Terms, Gift Rules, EULA, Privacy Policy, Anywhere in your pre-2009 terms because I have copies of them and I don't see that anywhere.

I told them that if they cannot do this or cannot offer me an acceptable offer that I would be contacting my attorney.

JANGALANG32

06-04-2009 13:12:43

[quotea37f57ef83="kwoodyk34k"]Lol, I received my letter today in Illinois dated March 27.

Wtf its that? It doesn't even say failed delivery or anything and someone is home 24/7. My Post Office blows.

They got me for

-Clever Clasp more than a year apart.

-Blockbuster... in Dec 07 it was a 2 week trial.. October 08 was I paid for a "month w/ $25 Visa gift card."

- eFax twice because I decided to abandon the gift the first time I did it and never even submitted the form.

-US Grant which I had absolutely no idea I repeated... I think one was a long time ago and then they disguised it with Obama on the picture so I did it again. All those Grant Sites looks the same.

So for these 4 repeats I am out a lot of money... I'm not going to say because idiots will say "OMG U DESERVED IT CUZ U ABUSED THE SYSTEM!!!!"

I'll just say that those 4 repeats made up less that 5% of the total offers I completed, lol.

I sent them an e-mail... I think it's day 10 today, right? So I should at least have my response in on time.

I basically said please point out which rule I broke in your Terms, Gift Rules, EULA, Privacy Policy, Anywhere in your pre-2009 terms because I have copies of them and I don't see that anywhere.

I told them that if they cannot do this or cannot offer me an acceptable offer that I would be contacting my attorney.[/quotea37f57ef83]

welcome to the club! it will be interesting to see how things unfold this week and next.

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 13:17:05

[quote4e52304ed0="kwoodyk34k"]Lol, I received my letter today in Illinois dated March 27.

Wtf its that? It doesn't even say failed delivery or anything and someone is home 24/7. My Post Office blows.

They got me for

-Clever Clasp more than a year apart.

-Blockbuster... in Dec 07 it was a 2 week trial.. October 08 was I paid for a "month w/ $25 Visa gift card."

- eFax twice because I decided to abandon the gift the first time I did it and never even submitted the form.

-US Grant which I had absolutely no idea I repeated... I think one was a long time ago and then they disguised it with Obama on the picture so I did it again. All those Grant Sites looks the same.

So for these 4 repeats I am out a lot of money... I'm not going to say because idiots will say "OMG U DESERVED IT CUZ U ABUSED THE SYSTEM!!!!"

I'll just say that those 4 repeats made up less that 5% of the total offers I completed, lol.

I sent them an e-mail... I think it's day 10 today, right? So I should at least have my response in on time.

I basically said please point out which rule I broke in your Terms, Gift Rules, EULA, Privacy Policy, Anywhere in your pre-2009 terms because I have copies of them and I don't see that anywhere.

I told them that if they cannot do this or cannot offer me an acceptable offer that I would be contacting my attorney.[/quote4e52304ed0]


Were the offers in question for gift you are still waiting on or did they quote some offers from gifts you had already received.

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 13:35:04

SO what I heard from them was that your account will go to shipped once they have shipped your check. They dont know when they will be shipping them but they will be shipping them in batches.

SO watch your accounts. looks like another year.

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 13:39:59

[quoteb57b643d28="RolltheStampede"][quoteb57b643d28="kwoodyk34k"]Lol, I received my letter today in Illinois dated March 27.

Wtf its that? It doesn't even say failed delivery or anything and someone is home 24/7. My Post Office blows.

They got me for

-Clever Clasp more than a year apart.

-Blockbuster... in Dec 07 it was a 2 week trial.. October 08 was I paid for a "month w/ $25 Visa gift card."

- eFax twice because I decided to abandon the gift the first time I did it and never even submitted the form.

-US Grant which I had absolutely no idea I repeated... I think one was a long time ago and then they disguised it with Obama on the picture so I did it again. All those Grant Sites looks the same.

So for these 4 repeats I am out a lot of money... I'm not going to say because idiots will say "OMG U DESERVED IT CUZ U ABUSED THE SYSTEM!!!!"

I'll just say that those 4 repeats made up less that 5% of the total offers I completed, lol.

I sent them an e-mail... I think it's day 10 today, right? So I should at least have my response in on time.

I basically said please point out which rule I broke in your Terms, Gift Rules, EULA, Privacy Policy, Anywhere in your pre-2009 terms because I have copies of them and I don't see that anywhere.

I told them that if they cannot do this or cannot offer me an acceptable offer that I would be contacting my attorney.[/quoteb57b643d28]


Were the offers in question for gift you are still waiting on or did they quote some offers from gifts you had already received.[/quoteb57b643d28]

All were for gifts I'm waiting on.
Ridunkulousss

How do you track the letter and see the delivery information?
I typed the number into the tracker on USPS.com and it says the number isn't right or something.

mariners1999

06-04-2009 13:41:46

[quotec859d50e6c="kwoodyk34k"][quotec859d50e6c="RolltheStampede"][quotec859d50e6c="kwoodyk34k"]Lol, I received my letter today in Illinois dated March 27.

Wtf its that? It doesn't even say failed delivery or anything and someone is home 24/7. My Post Office blows.

They got me for

-Clever Clasp more than a year apart.

-Blockbuster... in Dec 07 it was a 2 week trial.. October 08 was I paid for a "month w/ $25 Visa gift card."

- eFax twice because I decided to abandon the gift the first time I did it and never even submitted the form.

-US Grant which I had absolutely no idea I repeated... I think one was a long time ago and then they disguised it with Obama on the picture so I did it again. All those Grant Sites looks the same.

So for these 4 repeats I am out a lot of money... I'm not going to say because idiots will say "OMG U DESERVED IT CUZ U ABUSED THE SYSTEM!!!!"

I'll just say that those 4 repeats made up less that 5% of the total offers I completed, lol.

I sent them an e-mail... I think it's day 10 today, right? So I should at least have my response in on time.

I basically said please point out which rule I broke in your Terms, Gift Rules, EULA, Privacy Policy, Anywhere in your pre-2009 terms because I have copies of them and I don't see that anywhere.

I told them that if they cannot do this or cannot offer me an acceptable offer that I would be contacting my attorney.[/quotec859d50e6c]


Were the offers in question for gift you are still waiting on or did they quote some offers from gifts you had already received.[/quotec859d50e6c]

All were for gifts I'm waiting on.
Ridunkulousss

How do you track the letter and see the delivery information?
I typed the number into the tracker on USPS.com and it says the number isn't right or something.[/quotec859d50e6c]

Certified mail is not "trackable" through the usps -(

liliMY BADlili I think I was thinking about insured mail through USPS on that blue form that you fill out.

bruman

06-04-2009 13:44:04

[quotea4a17dac14="mariners1999"][quotea4a17dac14="kwoodyk34k"][quotea4a17dac14="RolltheStampede"][quotea4a17dac14="kwoodyk34k"]Lol, I received my letter today in Illinois dated March 27.

Wtf its that? It doesn't even say failed delivery or anything and someone is home 24/7. My Post Office blows.

They got me for

-Clever Clasp more than a year apart.

-Blockbuster... in Dec 07 it was a 2 week trial.. October 08 was I paid for a "month w/ $25 Visa gift card."

- eFax twice because I decided to abandon the gift the first time I did it and never even submitted the form.

-US Grant which I had absolutely no idea I repeated... I think one was a long time ago and then they disguised it with Obama on the picture so I did it again. All those Grant Sites looks the same.

So for these 4 repeats I am out a lot of money... I'm not going to say because idiots will say "OMG U DESERVED IT CUZ U ABUSED THE SYSTEM!!!!"

I'll just say that those 4 repeats made up less that 5% of the total offers I completed, lol.

I sent them an e-mail... I think it's day 10 today, right? So I should at least have my response in on time.

I basically said please point out which rule I broke in your Terms, Gift Rules, EULA, Privacy Policy, Anywhere in your pre-2009 terms because I have copies of them and I don't see that anywhere.

I told them that if they cannot do this or cannot offer me an acceptable offer that I would be contacting my attorney.[/quotea4a17dac14]


Were the offers in question for gift you are still waiting on or did they quote some offers from gifts you had already received.[/quotea4a17dac14]

All were for gifts I'm waiting on.
Ridunkulousss

How do you track the letter and see the delivery information?
I typed the number into the tracker on USPS.com and it says the number isn't right or something.[/quotea4a17dac14]

Certified mail is not "trackable" through the usps -([/quotea4a17dac14]

Yes it is... I think it's a 16-digit number on the front of the envelope. Just type that number without spaces on google and google will generate a direct link for you to see the tracking info.

PS600REVX

06-04-2009 13:45:11

[quote7b5bbf9c51="mariners1999"][quote7b5bbf9c51="kwoodyk34k"][quote7b5bbf9c51="RolltheStampede"][quote7b5bbf9c51="kwoodyk34k"]Lol, I received my letter today in Illinois dated March 27.

Wtf its that? It doesn't even say failed delivery or anything and someone is home 24/7. My Post Office blows.

They got me for

-Clever Clasp more than a year apart.

-Blockbuster... in Dec 07 it was a 2 week trial.. October 08 was I paid for a "month w/ $25 Visa gift card."

- eFax twice because I decided to abandon the gift the first time I did it and never even submitted the form.

-US Grant which I had absolutely no idea I repeated... I think one was a long time ago and then they disguised it with Obama on the picture so I did it again. All those Grant Sites looks the same.

So for these 4 repeats I am out a lot of money... I'm not going to say because idiots will say "OMG U DESERVED IT CUZ U ABUSED THE SYSTEM!!!!"

I'll just say that those 4 repeats made up less that 5% of the total offers I completed, lol.

I sent them an e-mail... I think it's day 10 today, right? So I should at least have my response in on time.

I basically said please point out which rule I broke in your Terms, Gift Rules, EULA, Privacy Policy, Anywhere in your pre-2009 terms because I have copies of them and I don't see that anywhere.

I told them that if they cannot do this or cannot offer me an acceptable offer that I would be contacting my attorney.[/quote7b5bbf9c51]


Were the offers in question for gift you are still waiting on or did they quote some offers from gifts you had already received.[/quote7b5bbf9c51]

All were for gifts I'm waiting on.
Ridunkulousss

How do you track the letter and see the delivery information?
I typed the number into the tracker on USPS.com and it says the number isn't right or something.[/quote7b5bbf9c51]

Certified mail is not "trackable" through the usps -([/quote7b5bbf9c51]

yes it is. Just put that long # on the green receipt into their website.

prizejunkie

06-04-2009 13:52:19

I am waiting on my 2500 from topshelfbrands. They (mpell) got my recipt and said i was approved. Now the topshelfbrands website is down, what should I do?

ashilef

06-04-2009 13:53:54

[quote59da9f11d0="RolltheStampede"]SO what I heard from them was that your account will go to shipped once they have shipped your check. They dont know when they will be shipping them but they will be shipping them in batches.

SO watch your accounts. looks like another year.[/quote59da9f11d0]

So now they don't know when checks are coming??? Last week it was "they were already shipped" then to "another two weeks"! I'm so done with this company and all their crap. I just want my damn money!!! x

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 13:59:45

I asked Mpell if they had shipped anything and they said they were waiting on funding.

ARG confirmed that checks would be coming from Mpell.
ARG commented that Mpell did not know what was going on and not to contact them.

ARG rep also commented that they did not know who was shipped what and when shipments would go out but it would be reflected in accounts.

For topshelfbrands i am not sure how they will handle that so an email or a phone call is probably necessary.

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 13:59:51

[quote7d8ed48c1f="RolltheStampede"]SO what I heard from them was that your account will go to shipped once they have shipped your check. They dont know when they will be shipping them but they will be shipping them in batches.

SO watch your accounts. looks like another year.[/quote7d8ed48c1f]

yep. they said once your account goes shipped, expect 10-14 days for delivery. they are also unsure of how the shipping order is, so it could be cts, cba (cash back approval date) or they might be drawing names out of a hat at random.

bruman

06-04-2009 14:09:25

I received an e-mail response from mpell today and they said they're scheduled to start within the next two weeks.

prizejunkie

06-04-2009 14:13:15

whats the generic email for arg so i can ask them about top shelf, a phine number would be great too

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 14:13:56

[quoteb97bef903b="bruman"]I received an e-mail response from mpell today and they said they're scheduled to start within the next two weeks.[/quoteb97bef903b]

In other News ARG announces they will file for bankruptcy next week

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 14:14:43

Those tracking methods didn't work.
"There is no record of this blah"

So let's see...

Letter dated March 27.

27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

What the lililili.

That's Bull lililili.

Why does it take 11 days to get to my house???
I doubt they'll even read my reply now.

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 14:23:40

ARG got screwed because they didn't expect such a large number of responses for the cash back certificates. They could not have believed that the active freebie forums and members were going to ignore the cash back certificate...as soon as the first person on here opened up their mail and shared that news, everyone scanned their mailboxes closely and carefully strategized the sending in of receipts. I really want to know how many certificates they thought were going to come back...

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 14:27:35

im sure they took back some money i know one of my co workers moved away and pretty much forgot about his 1,000 visa. im sure theyre are others who dont frequent forums and who are just lazy or both who didnt bother with the rebates

mweiss

06-04-2009 14:28:40

Some[b66c480911e] useful info[/b66c480911e]...
Over the weekend I emailed MPell. The first one is my email to them. the 2nd is their response.

Hello. It is coming up to the 10 week mark of when gifts are supposed to be mailed. I was wondering what the system is of mailing out the checks. Will it go in order of approval date, first initial of last name, etc. Also, a friend of mine had received an audit letter and I had read that other people have received them as well. Are there more audit letters to be sent or is that process overwith? Just wondering since I'm assuming the audit process will put a hold on the checks to be mailed out. Please let me know. Thanks.

(my friend actually didnt receive an audit letter. just made it up so they dont think I'm only getting my info from a forum)

Michelle,
Reimbursements are [b66c480911e]scheduled to begin within the next two weeks. [/b66c480911e]Reimbursement will go [b66c480911e]in order of approval date[/b66c480911e]. No signatures are required and they're being sent out regular mail.
As for your other question regarding audit letters, we have no information and are directing those questions to Active Response.
Thank you!

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 14:30:55

so I guess everyone should check their accounts regularly and if someone goes shipped, state your cba date. maybe this week ppl will go shipped...

manOFice

06-04-2009 14:31:03

yeah it's gonna be a long time till we see this money, it won't be in 2 weeks

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 14:35:09

[quote5ef810056a="prizejunkie"]whats the generic email for arg so i can ask them about top shelf, a phine number would be great too[/quote5ef810056a]

go to bradarama.com and check the contact us

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 14:38:01

[quote919c3807f4="mweiss"]
Michelle,
Reimbursements are [b919c3807f4]scheduled to begin within the next two months. [/b919c3807f4]Reimbursement will go [b919c3807f4]in order of approval date[/b919c3807f4]......[/quote919c3807f4]

a little more believable

[quote919c3807f4="mweiss"]
Michelle,
Reimbursements are [b919c3807f4]scheduled to begin within the next two years. [/b919c3807f4]Reimbursement will go [b919c3807f4]in order of approval date[/b919c3807f4]......[/quote919c3807f4]

probably

soccerbud

06-04-2009 14:51:21

got my audio letters in CA today

mjforever

06-04-2009 14:54:34

[quoteb509294fe9="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quoteb509294fe9]


audio or audit?

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 14:54:51

what reason(s) were listed?

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 14:55:09

[quote04f1779035="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quote04f1779035]

what you got audio? everyone else got letters. Was it dictated by Stephen Fry might make the blow go a little easier.

mjforever

06-04-2009 14:55:26

[quote110e23efda="ohboyitsryan"]what reason(s) were listed?[/quote110e23efda]


I assumed it's all the same reason as the others got.

mariners1999

06-04-2009 14:56:42

[quotee4c20b69f5="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quotee4c20b69f5]

Still able to log into your account pages at brandarama? Also Roll asked a good question are these repeats on gifts you are still waiting for or on gifts that they already shipped?

soccerbud

06-04-2009 14:57:34

[quotef1ea34a77d="mjforever"][quotef1ea34a77d="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quotef1ea34a77d]


audio or audit?[/quotef1ea34a77d]
i mean audit letters, and the letters were dated 03/25/09. This puts me past the "reply within 10 days" timeline.

what the fvck ... how did it take this long for it to reach me

soccerbud

06-04-2009 14:58:02

[quote7d38d0dde8="ohboyitsryan"]what reason(s) were listed?[/quote7d38d0dde8]same reasons as everyone else

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 15:02:10

[quote1e60e79427="RolltheStampede"][quote1e60e79427="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quote1e60e79427]

what you got audio? everyone else got letters. Was it dictated by Stephen Fry might make the blow go a little easier.[/quote1e60e79427]

that will probably go over a lot of people's heads.

soccerbud

06-04-2009 15:31:17

[quote2d564a8cfa="kwoodyk34k"]Those tracking methods didn't work.
"There is no record of this blah"

So let's see...

Letter dated March 27.

27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

What the lililili.

That's Bull lililili.

Why does it take 11 days to get to my house???
I doubt they'll even read my reply now.[/quote2d564a8cfa]
i feel your pain, i just got my letter today and it was dated 03/25/09.
Which was 12 days ago!

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 15:33:25

[quote54730355f3="soccerbud"][quote54730355f3="mjforever"][quote54730355f3="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quote54730355f3]


audio or audit?[/quote54730355f3]
i mean audit letters, and the letters were dated 03/25/09. This puts me past the "reply within 10 days" timeline.

what the fvck ... how did it take this long for it to reach me[/quote54730355f3]

Exactly.
This is what pisses me off.
They even send you a automated reply e-mail stating,

"You replied at 309pm on April 6, 2009 to our Audit letter dated March 27"

That was sent within 2 seconds of me sending my response. I'm sure they time-stamped the response for a reason... I called up Brandarama and the lady just says, "oh just tell them you just got it." Yeah, okay. I mentioned that I got it today in my e-mail... I hope that's good enough.

Also, Soccerbud, type in the 16 digit number on the front of your envelope into the tracking box on USPS.com. Does it give you any information or does it say that it's not found?

soccerbud

06-04-2009 15:36:52

[quotec6781ac26d="kwoodyk34k"][quotec6781ac26d="soccerbud"][quotec6781ac26d="mjforever"][quotec6781ac26d="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quotec6781ac26d]


audio or audit?[/quotec6781ac26d]
i mean audit letters, and the letters were dated 03/25/09. This puts me past the "reply within 10 days" timeline.

what the fvck ... how did it take this long for it to reach me[/quotec6781ac26d]

Exactly.
This is what pisses me off.
They even send you a automated reply e-mail stating,

"You replied at 309pm on April 6, 2009 to our Audit letter dated March 27"

That was sent within 2 seconds of me sending my response. I'm sure they time-stamped the response for a reason... I called up Brandarama and the lady just says, "oh just tell them you just got it." Yeah, okay. I mentioned that I got it today in my e-mail... I hope that's good enough.

Also, Soccerbud, type in the 16 digit number on the front of your envelope into the tracking box on USPS.com. Does it give you any information or does it say that it's not found?[/quotec6781ac26d]

it showed that it was delivered on 03/30/09. However, it was not delivered to me, but to the mail facility that handles all the incoming mail for my apartment and ~10 other apartments as well. I did not physically receive the letter until today.

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 15:39:42

Erm.. what "area of practice" would this whole thing be under? Any ideas?

I thought I might as well search for an attorney in the area while I wait for class to start, lol.

kinneylamb

06-04-2009 15:39:53

lol you should be like, "well you replied to my gift confirmed to ship x/xx/2008"

soccerbud

06-04-2009 15:41:20

[quote38b71ed68d="kwoodyk34k"]Erm.. what "area of practice" would this whole thing be under? Any ideas?

I thought I might as well search for an attorney in the area while I wait for class to start, lol.[/quote38b71ed68d]contract law?

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 15:41:24

[quotea902274879="kinneylamb"]lol you should be like, "you replied to my gift confirmed to ship x/xx/2008"[/quotea902274879]

Haha, try 2007.

I don't know why the heck my tracking number has no information.

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 15:42:50

[quote1ab9ad60d0="soccerbud"][quote1ab9ad60d0="kwoodyk34k"]Erm.. what "area of practice" would this whole thing be under? Any ideas?

I thought I might as well search for an attorney in the area while I wait for class to start, lol.[/quote1ab9ad60d0]contract law?[/quote1ab9ad60d0]

Lmao, I just searched under "contract" in my area.

Patrick Star.

Isn't that the starfish from Spongebob???

kinneylamb

06-04-2009 15:44:05

the way i understand it, the checks are being sent out in batches for those who are cts with no audits, and anyone who's approved post-audit will trail behind with those checks.

lmao @ patrick star!

soccerbud

06-04-2009 15:48:18

[quoteeb1f6354fa="kwoodyk34k"][quoteeb1f6354fa="soccerbud"][quoteeb1f6354fa="kwoodyk34k"]Erm.. what "area of practice" would this whole thing be under? Any ideas?

I thought I might as well search for an attorney in the area while I wait for class to start, lol.[/quoteeb1f6354fa]contract law?[/quoteeb1f6354fa]

Lmao, I just searched under "contract" in my area.

Patrick Star.

Isn't that the starfish from Spongebob???[/quoteeb1f6354fa]

the only question that I have is .... would lawyers be interested in contract dispute over a few lousy grand?

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 15:49:39

[quote86117925e1="soccerbud"][quote86117925e1="kwoodyk34k"][quote86117925e1="soccerbud"][quote86117925e1="kwoodyk34k"]Erm.. what "area of practice" would this whole thing be under? Any ideas?

I thought I might as well search for an attorney in the area while I wait for class to start, lol.[/quote86117925e1]contract law?[/quote86117925e1]

Lmao, I just searched under "contract" in my area.

Patrick Star.

Isn't that the starfish from Spongebob???[/quote86117925e1]

the only question that I have is .... would lawyers be interested in contract dispute over a few lousy grand?[/quote86117925e1]

Mine is too much for small claims court.
Perhaps that might be your best bet.

kinneylamb

06-04-2009 15:50:32

"order in the court"
http//a1.vox.com/6a00cdf3a54d98cb8f00d414144609685e-320pi

soccerbud

06-04-2009 15:51:07

[quote187a12763c="kwoodyk34k"][quote187a12763c="soccerbud"][quote187a12763c="kwoodyk34k"][quote187a12763c="soccerbud"][quote187a12763c="kwoodyk34k"]Erm.. what "area of practice" would this whole thing be under? Any ideas?

I thought I might as well search for an attorney in the area while I wait for class to start, lol.[/quote187a12763c]contract law?[/quote187a12763c]

Lmao, I just searched under "contract" in my area.

Patrick Star.

Isn't that the starfish from Spongebob???[/quote187a12763c]

the only question that I have is .... would lawyers be interested in contract dispute over a few lousy grand?[/quote187a12763c]

Mine is too much for small claims court.
Perhaps that might be your best bet.[/quote187a12763c]

the only problem with small claims court is that ...
so if you win the judgment against ARG, how can you force them to pay up?

ryndne

06-04-2009 15:52:44

[quoted15b099c48="kwoodyk34k"]Those tracking methods didn't work.
"There is no record of this blah"

So let's see...

Letter dated March 27.

27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

What the lililili.

That's Bull lililili.

Why does it take 11 days to get to my house???
I doubt they'll even read my reply now.[/quoted15b099c48]

my post office loves to have "no record of this item" but that doesnt mean it didnt arrive. sometimes its delayed in coming into the system and sometimes only updates once it delivers. ive had things never update that still got delivered...usps != fedex or ups for tracking. i wouldnt be too concerned

EDIT i would be concerned, but only because USPS cant get it right -- i should have said "i wouldnt count on certified mail to give you an accurate reflection of wtf is going on"

kwoodyk34k

06-04-2009 15:56:38

[quote100c692d49="ryndne"][quote100c692d49="kwoodyk34k"]Those tracking methods didn't work.
"There is no record of this blah"

So let's see...

Letter dated March 27.

27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

What the lililili.

That's Bull lililili.

Why does it take 11 days to get to my house???
I doubt they'll even read my reply now.[/quote100c692d49]

my post office loves to have "no record of this item" but that doesnt mean it didnt arrive. sometimes its delayed in coming into the system and sometimes only updates once it delivers. ive had things never update that still got delivered...usps != fedex or ups for tracking. i wouldnt be too concerned[/quote100c692d49]

I want a delivery date so that I can prove when I got the letter since it took longer than 10 days to respond.

How does everyone quote multiple things? lol

RolltheStampede

06-04-2009 16:01:59

http//meetinnovators.com/2008/03/27/brad-powers-from-active-response-group/

hawke12

06-04-2009 16:02:35

[quote7ca48f4f01="kwoodyk34k"]Erm.. what "area of practice" would this whole thing be under? Any ideas?

I thought I might as well search for an attorney in the area while I wait for class to start, lol.[/quote7ca48f4f01]

I think this would fall under "Consumer Law"

kinneylamb

06-04-2009 16:03:06

you know what, the USPS has really good customer service. shoot them an email and you'll get a really good one back. that should help somewhat.

also i recall tracking info dissappearing after so long. perhaps its quicker for certified mail, or perhaps ARG never recorded it, or the post office never scanned/tracked it.

bennyboy5768

06-04-2009 16:14:23

[quote0fff325edf="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quote0fff325edf]

Nothing in CA for me today, what part of CA are you in?

soccerbud

06-04-2009 16:27:01

[quote2691071e2c="bennyboy5768"][quote2691071e2c="soccerbud"]got my audio letters in CA today[/quote2691071e2c]

Nothing in CA for me today, what part of CA are you in?[/quote2691071e2c]
socal, i wouldn't worry if you haven't received anything by now

LucaBella

06-04-2009 16:44:21

Brad's a hot bitch and all, but he needs to pay us and then brag about how great he is later.


Seeing his tummy makes me warm...

edgespeeder04

06-04-2009 19:20:56

it doesn't say what it is for. If it was for reputation defender they owe me $100 not 10 since i sent in all together so I'm puzzled


edit it does reputation defender, at least this is a good sign.

http//i40.photobucket.com/albums/e221/edgespeeder04/Mpell1stcheck.jpg

tiffrnwhitney

06-04-2009 19:27:14

Okay Lucabella, I am cracking up at your post! Yea he needs to shut his pie hole and start cutting some checks! LOL

kinneylamb

06-04-2009 19:32:32

a hot bitch eh? you must be attracted to the sneaky used car salesman type.

LucaBella

06-04-2009 21:01:11

[quote18e364177e="kinneylamb"]a hot bitch eh? you must be attracted to the sneaky used car salesman type.[/quote18e364177e]

Aren't we all?

I love how the kid is in 2 pics, "see, I've got a child, I'm not stealing from you, I'm building his college fund... he'll be able to afford 17,000 degrees by the time I'm finished not paying you all! Thanks suckers" should be captioned under at least 1 of those photos.

RyanG

06-04-2009 22:28:43

[quote0a58263386="RolltheStampede"]I asked Mpell if they had shipped anything and they said they were waiting on funding.

ARG confirmed that checks would be coming from Mpell.
ARG commented that Mpell did not know what was going on and not to contact them.

ARG rep also commented that they did not know who was shipped what and when shipments would go out but it would be reflected in accounts.

For topshelfbrands i am not sure how they will handle that so an email or a phone call is probably necessary.[/quote0a58263386]

Just to show inconsistency of answers, I was told your account WON'T go shipped when your check is shipped from Mpell. Take it for what it is.

kinneylamb

06-04-2009 23:02:59

has anyone considered claiming not knowing that yourtopbrands is the same company as brandarama, etc.? to rebut the audit for one separate e-mail address per domain? seems pretty dumb of them to audit people for that, if they did.

bruman

06-04-2009 23:24:35

[quote7e1bb7f592="kinneylamb"]has anyone considered claiming not knowing that yourtopbrands is the same company as brandarama, etc.? to rebut the audit for one separate e-mail address per domain? seems pretty dumb of them to audit people for that, if they did.[/quote7e1bb7f592]

They aren't auditing people for having multiple e-mail addresses to the same physical address... just for sponsor offer violations such as repeats.

ohboyitsryan

06-04-2009 23:28:30

[quotebf691476bd="kinneylamb"]has anyone considered claiming not knowing that yourtopbrands is the same company as brandarama, etc.? to rebut the audit for one separate e-mail address per domain? seems pretty dumb of them to audit people for that, if they did.[/quotebf691476bd]

probably wouldn't work because if you read the privacy policy (which we're 'supposed' to do) it states that both companies are operated by Active Response Group so that probably wouldn't fly. Their legal department is on point.

Eeyore

06-04-2009 23:35:42

Indeed. These are not a bunch of college kids running this company out of the frat basement. They have real lawyers who know real law.

kinneylamb

07-04-2009 00:07:05

[quotee38144fe61="oleus"][quotee38144fe61="ashilef"]Ok, I'm confused. So who has already sent out checks? Mpell or ARG? Are these rebate checks or some other crap that doesn't have anything to do with us?[/quotee38144fe61]

Mpell is now referring ALL inquiries to ARG saying they are handling shipment. Somewhere along the line someone was told ARG then sends the money to Mpell to send to us (?). ARG also claims they have sent checks this week but no one has seen anything yet other than random brandarama checks that seem unrelated to the Mpell certificates and were paid out separately. So in all of that you can see why we are all confused and frustrated, even though ARG is claiming "alot" of us will be seeing checks "soon".[/quotee38144fe61]
i'm almost done reading these humongous pages of posts. i haven't seen this posted yet, but i think i got it. the above post was made last friday. info about ARG sending out checks was posted on thursday. someone asked mpell if they shipped checks yet, and they said no. that was friday. so the checks were in transit from ARG to mpell, hence ARG says yes checks were shipped and mpell said no checks were not shipped. so those checks should get to being shipped soon by mpell. within the timeframe mpell specified. if the funds were adminstered electronically for mpell to print the checks themselves, i guess this could still be the reason why mpell said no not yet.

kwoodyk34k

07-04-2009 00:07:17

[quote5af3fa789e="kinneylamb"]has anyone considered claiming not knowing that yourtopbrands is the same company as brandarama, etc.? to rebut the audit for one separate e-mail address per domain? seems pretty dumb of them to audit people for that, if they did.[/quote5af3fa789e]

They aren't auditing for having multiple e-mail addresses. The people who started that were just afraid to admit they repeated sponsor offers. If they did have a problem with that the multiple e-mail address would have been highlighted on my spreadsheet. They weren't.

They don't care about that.

kinneylamb

07-04-2009 00:11:35

[quote2e1c49fe44="bruman"]
They aren't auditing people for having multiple e-mail addresses to the same physical address... just for sponsor offer violations such as repeats.[/quote2e1c49fe44]
i like this answer. i couldn't figure that out amongst all the dodging about the real reason why some people here received their letters.

i bet you ARG doesnt even have a clue their privacy policy is written like that, only their legal dept.

Eeyore

07-04-2009 08:16:25

[quote5643142ef7="kinneylamb"]i bet you ARG doesnt even have a clue their privacy policy is written like that, only their legal dept.[/quote5643142ef7]
What does their Privacy Policy have to do with this fiasco?

RolltheStampede

07-04-2009 08:49:10

[quote1153470d6f="kinneylamb"][quote1153470d6f="oleus"][quote1153470d6f="ashilef"]Ok, I'm confused. So who has already sent out checks? Mpell or ARG? Are these rebate checks or some other crap that doesn't have anything to do with us?[/quote1153470d6f]

Mpell is now referring ALL inquiries to ARG saying they are handling shipment. Somewhere along the line someone was told ARG then sends the money to Mpell to send to us (?). ARG also claims they have sent checks this week but no one has seen anything yet other than random brandarama checks that seem unrelated to the Mpell certificates and were paid out separately. So in all of that you can see why we are all confused and frustrated, even though ARG is claiming "alot" of us will be seeing checks "soon".[/quote1153470d6f]
i'm almost done reading these humongous pages of posts. i haven't seen this posted yet, but i think i got it. the above post was made last friday. info about ARG sending out checks was posted on thursday. someone asked mpell if they shipped checks yet, and they said no. that was friday. so the checks were in transit from ARG to mpell, hence ARG says yes checks were shipped and mpell said no checks were not shipped. so those checks should get to being shipped soon by mpell. within the timeframe mpell specified. if the funds were adminstered electronically for mpell to print the checks themselves, i guess this could still be the reason why mpell said no not yet.[/quote1153470d6f]

well you missed the posts saying mpell hasnt recieved funding and that checks will go out in 2 weeks.

ohboyitsryan

07-04-2009 09:27:14

so when ARG says checks have shipped, what are they referring to if mpell won't be ready to unload payment for two weeks? I would imagine ARG would electronically release funds to mpell which shouldn't take long, so where is the delay?

Eeyore

07-04-2009 10:04:53

Some people have received payments directly from ARG, but they are not due to the Mpell certificate rebate, and were not for the full amount owed. And then there are the people who fell into a very short CTS timeframe (I forget which month that was) which ARG paid off directly and didn't send them to Mpell. At this point I don't think ARG knows who they have sent what to and when.

moose_man

07-04-2009 10:49:06

Wow I hope my check comes soon. Been reading all these posts the past couple days, sounds like a large angry mob lol.

kwoodyk34k

07-04-2009 12:32:27

How long did it take the legal department to reply to the first e-mails?

And has anyone who responded back to them received another e-mail yet?

jtackman

07-04-2009 13:01:42

nope nothing yet

RolltheStampede

07-04-2009 13:02:47

i think yahoo did they wanted proof he complied with terms thy just putt in place.

dougp70

07-04-2009 13:19:58

[quote3fb4f072c7="moose_man"]Wow I hope my check comes soon. Been reading all these posts the past couple days, sounds like a large angry mob lol.[/quote3fb4f072c7]

um, yeah

mistertomlinson

07-04-2009 13:51:02

Maaaaan, I woke up to an unusually large stack of mail today and had so hoped my check was in there. lisigh

ikeepsecrets

07-04-2009 14:08:58

yeah, they just wanted proof that you played by the new rules within 5 days or you are DQed for good...

dubbin87

07-04-2009 14:15:59

for the people who did get an audit and sent a email in did you get a quick reply that you email was recieved?

jtackman

07-04-2009 14:18:10

well we didnt play by the new rules, and i basically said i will sue them in the letter

JANGALANG32

07-04-2009 14:20:17

bvbvcbnbnv

manOFice

07-04-2009 14:34:30

[quoted72e915b0c="JANGALANG32"]just got a response maybe someone else can tell me what the last 2 paragraphs mean? are they asking me to send them all my confirmation emails for each sponsor?

We are in receipt of your email response to our notice of suspension dated 3/27/09. Please be advised that we routinely conduct audits of consumer activity on our websites on an ongoing basis and that such efforts are conducted independently of our Cash Back Certificate Program. These efforts are undertaken to ensure that we provide the highest quality of customer experience and to ensure that our various rules and requirements concerning promotions are fulfilled by all participants. We make every effort to conduct these reviews on a timely basis.

As we have already informed you, your account(s) were suspended pursuant to an audit which appear to violate section 5 of the EULA and section 1 of the Gift Rules, and the fact that you completed the same Sponsor offer(s) multiple times under one email account, multiple email accounts and/or postal address. These types of activities require your explanation so that we may understand why these perceived violations have occurred.

We have attached a summary of the activity within your accounts that was flagged in our audit as abuse, as previously provided with our initial notice of suspension. We believe that as set forth in the attached summary documents that the actions identified may have been an effort to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for personal gain. If you believe that the summary does not disclose a pattern and practice of abuse, please provide an explanation of why such actions were taken together with a verification of your continued participation in our Sponsor offers, if applicable, by providing proof that you have actively participated in all Sponsor offers for the required time period for each such offer.

If you wish to provide the necessary explanation and verification, you are required to provided a written response within 5 days of the date of your receipt of this email= to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email, along with any evidence such as the required Sponsor participation, if applicable, that you would like us to consider. As mentioned in our previous notice, pending resolution of the issues presented in the summary, all of your accounts in our programs are temporarily suspended during our consideration of your response[/quoted72e915b0c]

Sounds like they want an explanation why completed offers multiple times... You can just quote the tos again if it wasn't in there when you signed up

neverendingmoolah

07-04-2009 14:48:09

[quotedbfd103bc0="JANGALANG32"]just got a response maybe someone else can tell me what the last 2 paragraphs mean? are they asking me to send them all my confirmation emails for each sponsor?

We are in receipt of your email response to our notice of suspension dated 3/27/09. Please be advised that we routinely conduct audits of consumer activity on our websites on an ongoing basis and that such efforts are conducted independently of our Cash Back Certificate Program. These efforts are undertaken to ensure that we provide the highest quality of customer experience and to ensure that our various rules and requirements concerning promotions are fulfilled by all participants. We make every effort to conduct these reviews on a timely basis.

As we have already informed you, your account(s) were suspended pursuant to an audit which appear to violate section 5 of the EULA and section 1 of the Gift Rules, and the fact that you completed the same Sponsor offer(s) multiple times under one email account, multiple email accounts and/or postal address. These types of activities require your explanation so that we may understand why these perceived violations have occurred.

We have attached a summary of the activity within your accounts that was flagged in our audit as abuse, as previously provided with our initial notice of suspension. We believe that as set forth in the attached summary documents that the actions identified may have been an effort to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for personal gain. If you believe that the summary does not disclose a pattern and practice of abuse, please provide an explanation of why such actions were taken together with a verification of your continued participation in our Sponsor offers, if applicable, by providing proof that you have actively participated in all Sponsor offers for the required time period for each such offer.

If you wish to provide the necessary explanation and verification, you are required to provided a written response within 5 days of the date of your receipt of this email= to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email, along with any evidence such as the required Sponsor participation, if applicable, that you would like us to consider. As mentioned in our previous notice, pending resolution of the issues presented in the summary, all of your accounts in our programs are temporarily suspended during our consideration of your response[/quotedbfd103bc0]

They are claiming that you violated the EULA and Gift Rules and they want you to provide proof that you have not violated them by explaining why you have either "completed the same Sponsor offer(s) multiple times under one email account, multiple email accounts and/or postal address. "

They also want you to provide proof that you have kept the sponsor offers for the required amount of time, and that you met your obligations with the sponsor offers that you completed.

Unfortunately they are trying to enforce new rules under the old TOS. If you did NOT complete the same offers multiple times, but you had someone in your household to fulfill the same offers under different email addys or using the same postal address, that is one thing. But if you did complete the same offers multiple times, under the same or different email addy, then you have to explain your actions. They are not asking you to provide your confirmation emails. They want an explanation in writing from you as to why you or someone in your household completed the same offers multiple times. Why they want this is not clear because it has already been established that their staff members did agree that the offers could be completed by more than one person at the same postal address. When you prepare your response, you will have to figure out how to get around this one...

dubbin87

07-04-2009 14:55:43

[quoted790c072f7="neverendingmoolah"] When you prepare your response, you will have to figure out how to get around this one...[/quoted790c072f7]Simple, keep quoting the 2007 Rules. Then if they tell you that's not gonna fly take them to court.

JANGALANG32

07-04-2009 15:12:03

i've already explained why multiple emails were used and why multiple sponsor offers were completed. i also said the rules did not state anything i did was wrong. its like this is a copy and paste email i got that was sent out to multiple email.

can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules

neverendingmoolah

07-04-2009 15:18:54

[quote33cc9447af="JANGALANG32"]can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules[/quote33cc9447af]

Read through the last 10 pages or so. One of the other users took a screenshot of the old EULA and TOS and posted them onto their website. I am not sure who this was, but remember reading this a few days ago. They may be able to provide you with a jpg file or something to send to them. If you are considering legal action that would be great to provide as evidence if you can get a jpg file.

JANGALANG32

07-04-2009 15:25:11

[quote3815a5a9fd="neverendingmoolah"][quote3815a5a9fd="JANGALANG32"]can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules[/quote3815a5a9fd]

Read through the last 10 pages or so. One of the other users took a screenshot of the old EULA and TOS and posted them onto their website. I am not sure who this was, but remember reading this a few days ago. They may be able to provide you with a jpg file or something to send to them. If you are considering legal action that would be great to provide as evidence if you can get a jpg file.[/quote3815a5a9fd]

ive seen the posts but dont know how to get a screen shot of the sections they say i violated

bennyboy5768

07-04-2009 15:26:26

[quote72e4788505="JANGALANG32"]i've already explained why multiple emails were used and why multiple sponsor offers were completed. i also said the rules did not state anything i did was wrong. its like this is a copy and paste email i got that was sent out to multiple email.

can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules[/quote72e4788505]

See my post here http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=839753#839753

JANGALANG32

07-04-2009 15:50:23

[quote2eeecb760a="bennyboy5768"][quote2eeecb760a="JANGALANG32"]i've already explained why multiple emails were used and why multiple sponsor offers were completed. i also said the rules did not state anything i did was wrong. its like this is a copy and paste email i got that was sent out to multiple email.

can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules[/quote2eeecb760a]

See my post here http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=839753#839753[/quote2eeecb760a]

ice seen this, thanks! can you cut it down to just screenshots of the sections they say i violated?

kinneylamb

07-04-2009 15:57:09

[quotefef1102362="JANGALANG32"]i've already explained why multiple emails were used and why multiple sponsor offers were completed. i also said the rules did not state anything i did was wrong. [bfef1102362]its like this is a copy and paste email i got that was sent out to multiple email.[/bfef1102362]

can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules[/quotefef1102362]
that's exactly right. they had a lawyer(s) draw this up for them, and they are using a cookie cutter response to follow along with it. hence the strong languange. i-deal uses the same thing. the actual people working there could never write that.

slambam

07-04-2009 16:13:49

[quotebe219dad73="JANGALANG32"]We are in receipt of your email response to our notice of suspension dated 3/27/09. Please be advised that we routinely conduct audits of consumer activity on our websites on an ongoing basis and that such efforts are conducted independently of our Cash Back Certificate Program. These efforts are undertaken to [bbe219dad73]ensure that we provide the highest quality of customer experience[/bbe219dad73] and to ensure that our various rules and requirements concerning promotions are fulfilled by all participants. We make every effort to conduct these reviews on a timely basis. [/quotebe219dad73]

Yea.... my ass.

RolltheStampede

07-04-2009 16:21:37

the timely bases part too i see

bennyboy5768

07-04-2009 16:30:41

[quote91e06373d4="JANGALANG32"][quote91e06373d4="bennyboy5768"][quote91e06373d4="JANGALANG32"]i've already explained why multiple emails were used and why multiple sponsor offers were completed. i also said the rules did not state anything i did was wrong. its like this is a copy and paste email i got that was sent out to multiple email.

can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules[/quote91e06373d4]

See my post here http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=839753#839753[/quote91e06373d4]

ice seen this, thanks! can you cut it down to just screenshots of the sections they say i violated?[/quote91e06373d4]

Thats all on you. I heard that MS Paint is a good program to do that... 8)

ryndne

07-04-2009 17:16:36

[quoteb4f2a5fde2="bennyboy5768"][quoteb4f2a5fde2="JANGALANG32"][quoteb4f2a5fde2="bennyboy5768"][quoteb4f2a5fde2="JANGALANG32"]i've already explained why multiple emails were used and why multiple sponsor offers were completed. i also said the rules did not state anything i did was wrong. its like this is a copy and paste email i got that was sent out to multiple email.

can anyone do a screen shot for me of the old rules and of the section they said i violated so i can just email them their rules[/quoteb4f2a5fde2]

See my post here http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=839753#839753[/quoteb4f2a5fde2]

ice seen this, thanks! can you cut it down to just screenshots of the sections they say i violated?[/quoteb4f2a5fde2]

Thats all on you. I heard that MS Paint is a good program to do that... 8)[/quoteb4f2a5fde2]

lol @ ms paint for photo editing/cropping. you could also print it out and then use scissors to cut out the parts you like and mail it to them lol

wiebelhaus03

07-04-2009 17:17:36

i thinking he was referring to ms paint for the printscreen+paste of a specific section and turn into a .jpgurl==http://=http:///url

ryndne

07-04-2009 17:21:25

[quote4c329b58fd="wiebelhaus03"]i thinking he was referring to ms paint for the printscreen+paste of a specific section and turn into a .jpgurl==http://=http:///url[/quote4c329b58fd]

in either case, i agree with his suggestion of MS paint...the other programs require some level of proficiency with a computer...in this case such proficiency has not been demonstrated

mistertomlinson

07-04-2009 17:34:00

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit, I've been photoshopping with MS Paint for weeks1

desertwilite

07-04-2009 17:37:06

paintshop pro is good....

Swat1

08-04-2009 00:04:53

Brandarama is now saying that my account or whatever account my email is attached to does not exist. the email that i have been logging in for the last 2 years isn't found... wow, they're just deleting people and hopin gthey go away.

kinneylamb

08-04-2009 03:53:02

wednesday anxiety levels go up 10%+

mistertomlinson

08-04-2009 05:37:42

[quote83ae15a8b0="kinneylamb"]wednesday anxiety levels go up 10%+[/quote83ae15a8b0]

We're soooo close.

nygiantzrock

08-04-2009 06:52:36

If Brandarama wasn't lieing when exactly should they start being sent out?

I went qualified on Brandarama on March 10th and sent in my forms on March 11th. April 8th and I'm still not approved. I emailed them and they just said that it can take 4-6 weeks to process. Anybody remember how long it took for you to get confirmed after you sent in the forms?

RolltheStampede

08-04-2009 08:08:24

[quotecadd769546="Swat1"]Brandarama is now saying that my account or whatever account my email is attached to does not exist. the email that i have been logging in for the last 2 years isn't found... wow, they're just deleting people and hoping they go away.[/quotecadd769546]

ask them again, was it for a site that does not exist. you might want to ask for the reps manager seeing as all the first levels are new and if the account happens to be archived seeing as some of these are 2 years old. they may not know how to access it.

RolltheStampede

08-04-2009 08:09:25

[quote58c85a6257="nygiantzrock"]If Brandarama wasn't lieing when exactly should they start being sent out?

I went qualified on Brandarama on March 10th and sent in my forms on March 11th. April 8th and I'm still not approved. I emailed them and they just said that it can take 4-6 weeks to process. Anybody remember how long it took for you to get confirmed after you sent in the forms?[/quote58c85a6257]

used 2 be 2 weeks but this is the new brandarama

mjforever

08-04-2009 08:25:22

Crap! I just received a reply from ARG, they want the proof of my offers that I'm still active in all offers for the required amount of time.. This is BS since i signed up in 2007 and those T and C wasn't written then that i have to be an active member for 30 days.

michae229

08-04-2009 08:25:37

but who cares if we are not on the site we are in mpell system so who cares?

RolltheStampede

08-04-2009 08:28:05

[quote8c1632ab4f="michae229"]but who cares if we are not on the site we are in mpell system so who cares?[/quote8c1632ab4f]

guess you didnt read the last 10 pages.

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 08:29:50

[quotec88eb9fbeb="mjforever"]Crap! I just received a reply from ARG, they want the proof of my offers that I'm still active in all offers for the required amount of time.. This is BS since i signed up in 2007 and those T and C wasn't written then that i have to be an active member for 30 days.[/quotec88eb9fbeb]

so they're asking you for your statements proving you were active for 30 days with all of your offers way back in 2007? that's super shady.

PS600REVX

08-04-2009 08:30:14

[quoted56ad91605="mjforever"]Crap! I just received a reply from ARG, they want the proof of my offers that I'm still active in all offers for the required amount of time.. This is BS since i signed up in 2007 and those T and C wasn't written then that i have to be an active member for 30 days.[/quoted56ad91605]

when did you send your rebuttal e-mail?

michae229

08-04-2009 08:47:14

[quote81c9030fb7="RolltheStampede"][quote81c9030fb7="michae229"]but who cares if we are not on the site we are in mpell system so who cares?[/quote81c9030fb7]

guess you didnt read the last 10 pages.[/quote81c9030fb7]

I have been reading so... what are you trying to say?

RyanG

08-04-2009 08:47:47

I replied 3/31/09 and have no received a response yet lol

RolltheStampede

08-04-2009 09:13:13

[quote58357e84b7="michae229"][quote58357e84b7="RolltheStampede"][quote58357e84b7="michae229"]but who cares if we are not on the site we are in mpell system so who cares?[/quote58357e84b7]

guess you didnt read the last 10 pages.[/quote58357e84b7]

I have been reading so... what are you trying to say?[/quote58357e84b7]

Nm then, like you said who cares roll

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 09:25:00

10 weeks officially for me happens tomorrow. Doesn't look like Mpell is going to make the 8-10 week window...

mctrask

08-04-2009 09:27:01

[quote9642fd2790="JANGALANG32"]just got a response maybe someone else can tell me what the last 2 paragraphs mean? are they asking me to send them all my confirmation emails for each sponsor?

We are in receipt of your email response to our notice of suspension dated 3/27/09. Please be advised that we routinely conduct audits of consumer activity on our websites on an ongoing basis and that such efforts are conducted independently of our Cash Back Certificate Program. These efforts are undertaken to ensure that we provide the highest quality of customer experience and to ensure that our various rules and requirements concerning promotions are fulfilled by all participants. We make every effort to conduct these reviews on a timely basis.

As we have already informed you, your account(s) were suspended pursuant to an audit which appear to violate section 5 of the EULA and section 1 of the Gift Rules, and the fact that you completed the same Sponsor offer(s) multiple times under one email account, multiple email accounts and/or postal address. These types of activities require your explanation so that we may understand why these perceived violations have occurred.

We have attached a summary of the activity within your accounts that was flagged in our audit as abuse, as previously provided with our initial notice of suspension. We believe that as set forth in the attached summary documents that the actions identified may have been an effort to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for personal gain. If you believe that the summary does not disclose a pattern and practice of abuse, please provide an explanation of why such actions were taken together with a verification of your continued participation in our Sponsor offers, if applicable, by providing proof that you have actively participated in all Sponsor offers for the required time period for each such offer.

If you wish to provide the necessary explanation and verification, you are required to provided a written response within 5 days of the date of your receipt of this email= to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email, along with any evidence such as the required Sponsor participation, if applicable, that you would like us to consider. As mentioned in our previous notice, pending resolution of the issues presented in the summary, all of your accounts in our programs are temporarily suspended during our consideration of your response[/quote9642fd2790]

I went through some of your old posts to see where the problem is. You should be OK with Section 5 of EULA if you attach the email you got from CS confirming your address and email change to your response. There may be a problem with the Gift Rules though, even under the old terms. The following is stated in the old Gift Rules twice

[quote9642fd2790]Please note that Sponsor offers may require you to sample and/or purchase [b9642fd2790]products of interest[/b9642fd2790].[/quote9642fd2790]
and
[quote9642fd2790]In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all Sponsor offers that require you to sample and/or purchase [b9642fd2790]products of interest[/b9642fd2790] within 180 days of signing up with our service[/quote9642fd2790].

You said you were expecting over $8,000 from brandarama which is next to impossible to do without repeating offers. If you repeated the offers several months apart then you can argue that a change in circumstance led you to reevaluate the product which would fall within the Gift Rules. If you repeated those offers within a short period of time then you aren't going to be able to justify the repeats as trying products you were actually interested in sampling.

LucaBella

08-04-2009 09:31:21

[quote39ee696ba2="ohboyitsryan"]10 weeks officially for me happens tomorrow. Doesn't look like Mpell is going to make the 8-10 week window...[/quote39ee696ba2]


which is really an absolute shocker...

mjforever

08-04-2009 09:41:18

[quotec84aa627b2="ohboyitsryan"][quotec84aa627b2="mjforever"]Crap! I just received a reply from ARG, they want the proof of my offers that I'm still active in all offers for the required amount of time.. This is BS since i signed up in 2007 and those T and C wasn't written then that i have to be an active member for 30 days.[/quotec84aa627b2]

so they're asking you for your statements proving you were active for 30 days with all of your offers way back in 2007? that's super shady.[/quotec84aa627b2]


Yes. I replied on april 1,2009.

oleus

08-04-2009 09:50:09

i wonder if the "staggered delivery of checks" has even started?

dubbin87

08-04-2009 09:50:15

[quotefe01301034="mctrask"][quotefe01301034="JANGALANG32"]just got a response maybe someone else can tell me what the last 2 paragraphs mean? are they asking me to send them all my confirmation emails for each sponsor?

We are in receipt of your email response to our notice of suspension dated 3/27/09. Please be advised that we routinely conduct audits of consumer activity on our websites on an ongoing basis and that such efforts are conducted independently of our Cash Back Certificate Program. These efforts are undertaken to ensure that we provide the highest quality of customer experience and to ensure that our various rules and requirements concerning promotions are fulfilled by all participants. We make every effort to conduct these reviews on a timely basis.

As we have already informed you, your account(s) were suspended pursuant to an audit which appear to violate section 5 of the EULA and section 1 of the Gift Rules, and the fact that you completed the same Sponsor offer(s) multiple times under one email account, multiple email accounts and/or postal address. These types of activities require your explanation so that we may understand why these perceived violations have occurred.

We have attached a summary of the activity within your accounts that was flagged in our audit as abuse, as previously provided with our initial notice of suspension. We believe that as set forth in the attached summary documents that the actions identified may have been an effort to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for personal gain. If you believe that the summary does not disclose a pattern and practice of abuse, please provide an explanation of why such actions were taken together with a verification of your continued participation in our Sponsor offers, if applicable, by providing proof that you have actively participated in all Sponsor offers for the required time period for each such offer.

If you wish to provide the necessary explanation and verification, you are required to provided a written response within 5 days of the date of your receipt of this email= to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email, along with any evidence such as the required Sponsor participation, if applicable, that you would like us to consider. As mentioned in our previous notice, pending resolution of the issues presented in the summary, all of your accounts in our programs are temporarily suspended during our consideration of your response[/quotefe01301034]

I went through some of your old posts to see where the problem is. You should be OK with Section 5 of EULA if you attach the email you got from CS confirming your address and email change to your response. There may be a problem with the Gift Rules though, even under the old terms. The following is stated in the old Gift Rules twice

[quotefe01301034]Please note that Sponsor offers may require you to sample and/or purchase [bfe01301034]products of interest[/bfe01301034].[/quotefe01301034]
and
[quotefe01301034]In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all Sponsor offers that require you to sample and/or purchase [bfe01301034]products of interest[/bfe01301034] within 180 days of signing up with our service[/quotefe01301034].

You said you were expecting over $8,000 from brandarama which is next to impossible to do without repeating offers. If you repeated the offers several months apart then you can argue that a change in circumstance led you to reevaluate the product which would fall within the Gift Rules. If you repeated those offers within a short period of time then you aren't going to be able to justify the repeats as trying products you were actually interested in sampling.[/quotefe01301034]


Say hello to a ARG rep people....

mctrask

08-04-2009 10:15:41

[quote88bf8377cd="dubbin87"][quote88bf8377cd="mctrask"][quote88bf8377cd="JANGALANG32"]just got a response maybe someone else can tell me what the last 2 paragraphs mean? are they asking me to send them all my confirmation emails for each sponsor?

We are in receipt of your email response to our notice of suspension dated 3/27/09. Please be advised that we routinely conduct audits of consumer activity on our websites on an ongoing basis and that such efforts are conducted independently of our Cash Back Certificate Program. These efforts are undertaken to ensure that we provide the highest quality of customer experience and to ensure that our various rules and requirements concerning promotions are fulfilled by all participants. We make every effort to conduct these reviews on a timely basis.

As we have already informed you, your account(s) were suspended pursuant to an audit which appear to violate section 5 of the EULA and section 1 of the Gift Rules, and the fact that you completed the same Sponsor offer(s) multiple times under one email account, multiple email accounts and/or postal address. These types of activities require your explanation so that we may understand why these perceived violations have occurred.

We have attached a summary of the activity within your accounts that was flagged in our audit as abuse, as previously provided with our initial notice of suspension. We believe that as set forth in the attached summary documents that the actions identified may have been an effort to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for personal gain. If you believe that the summary does not disclose a pattern and practice of abuse, please provide an explanation of why such actions were taken together with a verification of your continued participation in our Sponsor offers, if applicable, by providing proof that you have actively participated in all Sponsor offers for the required time period for each such offer.

If you wish to provide the necessary explanation and verification, you are required to provided a written response within 5 days of the date of your receipt of this email= to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email, along with any evidence such as the required Sponsor participation, if applicable, that you would like us to consider. As mentioned in our previous notice, pending resolution of the issues presented in the summary, all of your accounts in our programs are temporarily suspended during our consideration of your response[/quote88bf8377cd]

I went through some of your old posts to see where the problem is. You should be OK with Section 5 of EULA if you attach the email you got from CS confirming your address and email change to your response. There may be a problem with the Gift Rules though, even under the old terms. The following is stated in the old Gift Rules twice

[quote88bf8377cd]Please note that Sponsor offers may require you to sample and/or purchase [b88bf8377cd]products of interest[/b88bf8377cd].[/quote88bf8377cd]
and
[quote88bf8377cd]In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all Sponsor offers that require you to sample and/or purchase [b88bf8377cd]products of interest[/b88bf8377cd] within 180 days of signing up with our service[/quote88bf8377cd].

You said you were expecting over $8,000 from brandarama which is next to impossible to do without repeating offers. If you repeated the offers several months apart then you can argue that a change in circumstance led you to reevaluate the product which would fall within the Gift Rules. If you repeated those offers within a short period of time then you aren't going to be able to justify the repeats as trying products you were actually interested in sampling.[/quote88bf8377cd]


Say hello to a ARG rep people....[/quote88bf8377cd]

LOL...as I sit here typing on my Macbook Pro from Nuitech and my son plays on the Toshiba Satellite from IDeal while watching our 42" plasma from MHFG. Maybe you should go through some of my old posts before throwing out accusations.

lol

jtackman

08-04-2009 10:59:37

well that's good. nuitech never cared about repeating...I know a guy that did stamps.com 16 times. lol

JANGALANG32

08-04-2009 11:26:15

[quotef4c47bfbf3="mctrask"][quotef4c47bfbf3="JANGALANG32"]just got a response maybe someone else can tell me what the last 2 paragraphs mean? are they asking me to send them all my confirmation emails for each sponsor?

We are in receipt of your email response to our notice of suspension dated 3/27/09. Please be advised that we routinely conduct audits of consumer activity on our websites on an ongoing basis and that such efforts are conducted independently of our Cash Back Certificate Program. These efforts are undertaken to ensure that we provide the highest quality of customer experience and to ensure that our various rules and requirements concerning promotions are fulfilled by all participants. We make every effort to conduct these reviews on a timely basis.

As we have already informed you, your account(s) were suspended pursuant to an audit which appear to violate section 5 of the EULA and section 1 of the Gift Rules, and the fact that you completed the same Sponsor offer(s) multiple times under one email account, multiple email accounts and/or postal address. These types of activities require your explanation so that we may understand why these perceived violations have occurred.

We have attached a summary of the activity within your accounts that was flagged in our audit as abuse, as previously provided with our initial notice of suspension. We believe that as set forth in the attached summary documents that the actions identified may have been an effort to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for personal gain. If you believe that the summary does not disclose a pattern and practice of abuse, please provide an explanation of why such actions were taken together with a verification of your continued participation in our Sponsor offers, if applicable, by providing proof that you have actively participated in all Sponsor offers for the required time period for each such offer.

If you wish to provide the necessary explanation and verification, you are required to provided a written response within 5 days of the date of your receipt of this email= to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com to email=audit@activeresponsegroup.comaudit@activeresponsegroup.com/email, along with any evidence such as the required Sponsor participation, if applicable, that you would like us to consider. As mentioned in our previous notice, pending resolution of the issues presented in the summary, all of your accounts in our programs are temporarily suspended during our consideration of your response[/quotef4c47bfbf3]

I went through some of your old posts to see where the problem is. You should be OK with Section 5 of EULA if you attach the email you got from CS confirming your address and email change to your response. There may be a problem with the Gift Rules though, even under the old terms. The following is stated in the old Gift Rules twice

[quotef4c47bfbf3]Please note that Sponsor offers may require you to sample and/or purchase [bf4c47bfbf3]products of interest[/bf4c47bfbf3].[/quotef4c47bfbf3]
and
[quotef4c47bfbf3]In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all Sponsor offers that require you to sample and/or purchase [bf4c47bfbf3]products of interest[/bf4c47bfbf3] within 180 days of signing up with our service[/quotef4c47bfbf3].

You said you were expecting over $8,000 from brandarama which is next to impossible to do without repeating offers. If you repeated the offers several months apart then you can argue that a change in circumstance led you to reevaluate the product which would fall within the Gift Rules. If you repeated those offers within a short period of time then you aren't going to be able to justify the repeats as trying products you were actually interested in sampling.[/quotef4c47bfbf3]

i didnt mean i was getting over $8,000 just for brandarama. i meant all of brandaramas sites. all 7 of them or how ever many there are..

i have 6 repeated sponsor offers and 2 emails. out of the 6 repeats 3 were over a year apart 2 were the same but different product (girls gone wild but different dvd's) and 1 was magazine burst that credited to my acct but never charged me or sent anything. i wanted the magazine so i signed up again. as for the emails, i notified them i had 2 and changed both email to the same shipping address at the same time. they had no issues

as for the rule i broke i still dont see it? if your refering to the 180 days i have an email from customer support that says as long as you can view the sponsor offers page you can still sign up for that gift. i dont see where a rule was broken

oleus

08-04-2009 11:38:47

yeah, those different dvd's shouldn't count as the same offer. they were different dvd's and you paid for them. i also remember paying for magazine burst and getting nothing, they charged me, sent nothing.

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 11:49:03

[quote84e646ef87="LucaBella"][quote84e646ef87="ohboyitsryan"]10 weeks officially for me happens tomorrow. Doesn't look like Mpell is going to make the 8-10 week window...[/quote84e646ef87]


which is really an absolute shocker...[/quote84e646ef87]

Will wonders ever cease with these guys? How many do they have pushing up on the 10th week, who according to their own admission can expect to see payment within that timeframe. I know I am!!!

sigh... so we wait......

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 11:54:46

[quotefbd0f5a0f1="oleus"]i wonder if the "staggered delivery of checks" has even started?[/quotefbd0f5a0f1]

ARG claims they have started, but I don't think anyone is sure if they are talking about Brandarama checks going out directly or via mpell. Haven't heard any updates about mpell checks yet...it's the same waiting game we're all accustomed to...

mctrask

08-04-2009 11:54:53

[quote48ea4d2d90="JANGALANG32"]

i didnt mean i was getting over $8,000 just for brandarama. i meant all of brandaramas sites. all 7 of them or how ever many there are..

i have 6 repeated sponsor offers and 2 emails. out of the 6 repeats 3 were over a year apart 2 were the same but different product (girls gone wild but different dvd's) and 1 was magazine burst that credited to my acct but never charged me or sent anything. i wanted the magazine so i signed up again. as for the emails, i notified them i had 2 and changed both email to the same shipping address at the same time. they had no issues

as for the rule i broke i still dont see it? if your refering to the 180 days i have an email from customer support that says as long as you can view the sponsor offers page you can still sign up for that gift. i dont see where a rule was broken[/quote48ea4d2d90]

I said IF you repeated offers within a short period of time then that may have broken a very loosely written rule that would give them some wiggle room. The old rules require that you try offers for products that actually are of interest to you. Repeating an offer several times within a few months would indicate that you are not interested in the offer, just doing it to qualify for the gift. From what you say above, it doesn't look like that is the case. The dvd offer shouldn't even be on their list if it was a different dvd. Explaining that the magazine offer never charged you or sent the product may disqualify you for that particular gift. As far as the three other offers that you repeated, if it was over a year between trials then it didn't break any rules if you were genuinely interested in trying the offers again.

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 12:10:20

[quotef1deb6927a="ohboyitsryan"][quotef1deb6927a="oleus"]i wonder if the "staggered delivery of checks" has even started?[/quotef1deb6927a]

ARG claims they have started, but I don't think anyone is sure if they are talking about Brandarama checks going out directly or via mpell. Haven't heard any updates about mpell checks yet...it's the same waiting game we're all accustomed to...[/quotef1deb6927a]

Unfortunately, no one has posted any news about receiving "cash back" for the receipts they sent in. I know there are quire a few people who are near or at the 10 week period. ARG needs to step their game up!!!

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 12:11:06

[quote43da48cdab="neverendingmoolah"][quote43da48cdab="LucaBella"][quote43da48cdab="ohboyitsryan"]10 weeks officially for me happens tomorrow. Doesn't look like Mpell is going to make the 8-10 week window...[/quote43da48cdab]


which is really an absolute shocker...[/quote43da48cdab]

Will wonders ever cease with these guys? How many do they have pushing up on the 10th week, who according to their own admission can expect to see payment within that timeframe. I know I am!!!

sigh... so we wait......[/quote43da48cdab]

I think a good amount of members were approved in late January for mpell so we are all reaching 10 weeks within the next couple of days. Brandarama changed their phones to prompt the callers that they were behind because of the 'overwhelming amount of cash back certificates returned'. The 8-10 week window was probably thrown out a while ago.

bruman

08-04-2009 12:11:40

[quote4b424602ff="mctrask"][quote4b424602ff="JANGALANG32"]

i didnt mean i was getting over $8,000 just for brandarama. i meant all of brandaramas sites. all 7 of them or how ever many there are..

i have 6 repeated sponsor offers and 2 emails. out of the 6 repeats 3 were over a year apart 2 were the same but different product (girls gone wild but different dvd's) and 1 was magazine burst that credited to my acct but never charged me or sent anything. i wanted the magazine so i signed up again. as for the emails, i notified them i had 2 and changed both email to the same shipping address at the same time. they had no issues

as for the rule i broke i still dont see it? if your refering to the 180 days i have an email from customer support that says as long as you can view the sponsor offers page you can still sign up for that gift. i dont see where a rule was broken[/quote4b424602ff]

I said IF you repeated offers within a short period of time then that may have broken a very loosely written rule that would give them some wiggle room. The old rules require that you try offers for products that actually are of interest to you. Repeating an offer several times within a few months would indicate that you are not interested in the offer, just doing it to qualify for the gift. From what you say above, it doesn't look like that is the case. The dvd offer shouldn't even be on their list if it was a different dvd. Explaining that the magazine offer never charged you or sent the product may disqualify you for that particular gift. As far as the three other offers that you repeated, if it was over a year between trials then it didn't break any rules if you were genuinely interested in trying the offers again.[/quote4b424602ff]

I was going to do both Girls Gone Wild DVD offers but I e-mailed CS before I did it to make sure it was alright..

They said to me

[quote4b424602ff]They are considered the same offer since they come from the same sponsor.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Anne
Brandarama Member Support

---------------Original Message---------------

Subject
Other


Hi,

If I previously did (about 8 months ago) the "Girls Gone Wild - Bubba 99 cent" offer, am I allowed to do the current offer listed "Girls Gone Wild" Wildest Bar in America? Are these considered two separate offers?[/quote4b424602ff]

That was back in Jan 08.. so they did have these rules in mind, but I agree it definitely should have been more explicitly written on the site.

jtackman

08-04-2009 12:14:17

Anne didn't say you could not do it again though. If that was back in JAn 08 I doubt the CS had any idea about repeating offers or they would have said that.

On another note, these bozos responded to our audit emails. They said they are reviewing the responses.

bruman

08-04-2009 12:25:33

[quote311b185eaf="jtackman"]Anne didn't say you could not do it again though. If that was back in JAn 08 I doubt the CS had any idea about repeating offers or they would have said that.

On another note, these bozos responded to our audit emails. They said they are reviewing the responses.[/quote311b185eaf]

At the time I interpreted it as I could not do it again because it was the same offer. That was the whole point of me sending her the e-mail. You really can't give these guys any excuse to DQ you.. if you knew it was a general no-no in the freebie world to not repeat offers (its even a bannable offense here on these forums).. i think they knew it was a policy back then, but i don't see anyone that just simply asked them in a CS ticket.

JANGALANG32

08-04-2009 12:28:09

[quotecf01de46d4="mctrask"][quotecf01de46d4="JANGALANG32"]

i didnt mean i was getting over $8,000 just for brandarama. i meant all of brandaramas sites. all 7 of them or how ever many there are..

i have 6 repeated sponsor offers and 2 emails. out of the 6 repeats 3 were over a year apart 2 were the same but different product (girls gone wild but different dvd's) and 1 was magazine burst that credited to my acct but never charged me or sent anything. i wanted the magazine so i signed up again. as for the emails, i notified them i had 2 and changed both email to the same shipping address at the same time. they had no issues

as for the rule i broke i still dont see it? if your refering to the 180 days i have an email from customer support that says as long as you can view the sponsor offers page you can still sign up for that gift. i dont see where a rule was broken[/quotecf01de46d4]

I said IF you repeated offers within a short period of time then that may have broken a very loosely written rule that would give them some wiggle room. The old rules require that you try offers for products that actually are of interest to you. Repeating an offer several times within a few months would indicate that you are not interested in the offer, just doing it to qualify for the gift. From what you say above, it doesn't look like that is the case. The dvd offer shouldn't even be on their list if it was a different dvd. Explaining that the magazine offer never charged you or sent the product may disqualify you for that particular gift. As far as the three other offers that you repeated, if it was over a year between trials then it didn't break any rules if you were genuinely interested in trying the offers again.[/quotecf01de46d4]


ive looked at this every single possible way to see their side of it and i dont see it. if there was a rule against doing sponsor offers multiple times then the rules would of said your only allowed to do a sponsor offer 1 time. no repeats! but it didnt come anywhere close to saying that.

speculating is all pointless until a check is actually sent out. right now all of our accounts have been suspended even if you didnt get a letter. they have been suspended for years now.

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 12:29:02

[quotedd25bf152a="ohboyitsryan"][quotedd25bf152a="neverendingmoolah"][quotedd25bf152a="LucaBella"][quotedd25bf152a="ohboyitsryan"]10 weeks officially for me happens tomorrow. Doesn't look like Mpell is going to make the 8-10 week window...[/quotedd25bf152a]


which is really an absolute shocker...[/quotedd25bf152a]

Will wonders ever cease with these guys? How many do they have pushing up on the 10th week, who according to their own admission can expect to see payment within that timeframe. I know I am!!!

sigh... so we wait......[/quotedd25bf152a]

I think a good amount of members were approved in late January for mpell so we are all reaching 10 weeks within the next couple of days. Brandarama changed their phones to prompt the callers that they were behind because of the 'overwhelming amount of cash back certificates returned'. The 8-10 week window was probably thrown out a while ago.[/quotedd25bf152a]

I dont think that anyone minds them taking longer than originally expected, so's long as they do eventually receive payment. I mean, we are all reasonable minded, intelligent individuals and we do realize that
S-H-#-@ HAPPENS. But for them to take nearly 2 years to string us along, and now take longer than promised earlier makes you wonder what the heck is going on????? When you look at it they keep giving us the same old lame excuse. "Due to a popular demand" or "due to overwhelming demand." Can't they get it right yet??? Come on.....

imapepper

08-04-2009 12:38:51

They are not going to make the 8-10 week time period as promised on the redemption certificate.

they now state that it will be 8-10 weeks from when they receive payment.

So that means we are still waiting on freiken ARG to get their act together...send mpell the money and then mpell sends to us!

This could take another freiken year!!!!

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 12:39:36

I wouldn't mind if they just let us know what's up, an email saying "were sorry for the delay due to this and that, but we will begin shipments on x date...if that estimate changes, we will let you know". Just simple business etiquette would be appreciated. It's not that difficult in all honesty...the fact they they adhere to windows of shipment knowing it will exceed that window is troubling. How 6-8 weeks on a site can turn into 14-16 months with no independent contact from them updating us on that status is beyond me. Maybe they will be more informative this time around.

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 12:42:30

I just called ARG and they have a recording if you are calling about our cash back certifications, due to overwhelming demand these are delayed. Please be patient, blah, blah, blah....

They dont even have it so you can speak to a live person anymore.
This way they can avoid any verbal commitments. Next I'll be sending them an email.

bruman

08-04-2009 12:47:21

[quote08add3c646="neverendingmoolah"]I just called ARG and they have a recording if you are calling about our cash back certifications, due to overwhelming demand these are delayed. Please be patient, blah, blah, blah....

They dont even have it so you can speak to a live person anymore.
This way they can avoid any verbal commitments. Next I'll be sending them an email.[/quote08add3c646]

I'm pretty sure they do... they just have that recording before the live rep to try and weed out those calling about mpell certificates and to focus more probably on new customers doing their sites.

oleus

08-04-2009 13:03:50

sounds like chances of us getting anything anytime soon just went to zero guys.

nygiantzrock

08-04-2009 13:08:02

If there so backed up, why wouldn't they shut down there sites so they don't owe even more money. Or seems like they would at least pause there sites until all this is situated.

I guess maybe thats what the rule change to 30 days was for, to slow it down a bit.

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 13:18:54

I called back and hit 1 to speak to someone about an existing account.
The lady I spoke to said that they are shipping out sporadically and that Mpell wont know in advance who is scheduled to receive payment. She also said the only way we will know if we have been shipped is to keep checking the status of our account. When it changes to shipped then we will know that our checks have been sent out.

They either actually believe that they will complete the fulfillment process or they want us to believe they will.

I didn't understand why they did not get some help in sending out these payments a long time ago. For months ever time I called they said they were back up and would send it out asap. Over and over and over this is what I have heard.

mariners1999

08-04-2009 13:21:41

[quote5cb61345c1="neverendingmoolah"]I called back and hit 1 to speak to someone about an existing account.
The lady I spoke to said that they are shipping out sporadically and that Mpell wont know in advance who is scheduled to receive payment. She also said the only way we will know if we have been shipped is to keep checking the status of our account. When it changes to shipped then we will know that our checks have been sent out.

They either actually believe that they will complete the fulfillment process or they want us to believe they will.

I didn't understand why they did not get some help in sending out these payments a logn time agoi. For months ever time I called they said they were back up and would send it out asap. Over and over and over this is what I have heard.[/quote5cb61345c1]

Well that is not good for me.... Have 4 items that I am CTS for and 2 of them have dissapeared. I emailed them like normal to have them put back up and they told me they were not doing that anymore. That if I sent in my Mpell certs that I don't have to worry about watching the status on their website. So should I email again now?

M

oleus

08-04-2009 13:26:59

[quote6f66b76788="mariners1999"][quote6f66b76788="neverendingmoolah"]I called back and hit 1 to speak to someone about an existing account.
The lady I spoke to said that they are shipping out sporadically and that Mpell wont know in advance who is scheduled to receive payment. She also said the only way we will know if we have been shipped is to keep checking the status of our account. When it changes to shipped then we will know that our checks have been sent out.

They either actually believe that they will complete the fulfillment process or they want us to believe they will.

I didn't understand why they did not get some help in sending out these payments a logn time agoi. For months ever time I called they said they were back up and would send it out asap. Over and over and over this is what I have heard.[/quote6f66b76788]

Well that is not good for me.... Have 4 items that I am CTS for and 2 of them have dissapeared. I emailed them like normal to have them put back up and they told me they were not doing that anymore. That if I sent in my Mpell certs that I don't have to worry about watching the status on their website. So should I email again now?

M[/quote6f66b76788]

i am in the same exact situation. 2 of my offers have disappeared, but in my last email response they said as long as i sent the certificates in everything should be ok. if the status page is the only way to tell when we're shipped now i'm worried...

michae229

08-04-2009 13:47:46

[quoted8ae56d448="RolltheStampede"][quoted8ae56d448="michae229"][quoted8ae56d448="RolltheStampede"][quoted8ae56d448="michae229"]but who cares if we are not on the site we are in mpell system so who cares?[/quoted8ae56d448]

guess you didnt read the last 10 pages.[/quoted8ae56d448]

I have been reading so... what are you trying to say?[/quoted8ae56d448]

Nm then, like you said who cares roll[/quoted8ae56d448]

I know your mad because you are not getting any money but don't be a douchbag just answer the question and keep it moving...

[quoted8ae56d448]Well that is not good for me.... Have 4 items that I am CTS for and 2 of them have dissapeared. I emailed them like normal to have them put back up and they told me they were not doing that anymore. That if I sent in my Mpell certs that I don't have to worry about watching the status on their website. So should I email again now?

M[/quoted8ae56d448]

thanks man

moose_man

08-04-2009 13:50:03

Same here. My 'YourTopBrands' and 'HouseholdSavingsClub' both are showing up with a blank status page. But 'TrustedRewards' still says "Confirmed to be Shipped".

RolltheStampede

08-04-2009 14:27:25

[quote69d37590e3="michae229"][quote69d37590e3="RolltheStampede"][quote69d37590e3="michae229"][quote69d37590e3="RolltheStampede"][quote69d37590e3="michae229"]but who cares if we are not on the site we are in mpell system so who cares?[/quote69d37590e3]

guess you didnt read the last 10 pages.[/quote69d37590e3]

I have been reading so... what are you trying to say?[/quote69d37590e3]

Nm then, like you said who cares roll[/quote69d37590e3]

I know your mad because you are not getting any money but don't be a douchbag just answer the question and keep it moving...

[quote69d37590e3]Well that is not good for me.... Have 4 items that I am CTS for and 2 of them have dissapeared. I emailed them like normal to have them put back up and they told me they were not doing that anymore. That if I sent in my Mpell certs that I don't have to worry about watching the status on their website. So should I email again now?

M[/quote69d37590e3]

thanks man[/quote69d37590e3]

who said i wasnt getting any money, i didnt get a letter. And you are thanking someone for the same information i posted 2 days ago. so you obviously didnt read like you said you did in the previous posts.

oleus

08-04-2009 14:28:28

waiting game part 2 is now underway. just got this from ytb

Thank you for contacting us.
Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Darren
YourTopBrands Member Support


I'm going back to contacting Mpell on this. They sent the certificates telling us to go buy stuff and that we'd be reimbursed in 8-10 weeks. this is unacceptable. we won't see anything unless we push this guys!!

mariners1999

08-04-2009 14:33:13

[quote8b6ad8fe8c="oleus"]waiting game part 2 is now underway. just got this from ytb

Thank you for contacting us.
Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Darren
YourTopBrands Member Support


I'm going back to contacting Mpell on this. They sent the certificates telling us to go buy stuff and that we'd be reimbursed in 8-10 weeks. this is unacceptable. we won't see anything unless we push this guys!![/quote8b6ad8fe8c]

LOL lol
What a surprise...... It was due to high demand we are experiencing delays for 18 months.......

Then MPELL is our saviour with spend the money get a rebate in 8-10 weeks.

NOW.......... Due to high demand for the cash back certificates there will be more shipping delays. roll

This just feels like the bad dream that you can not wake up from. evil

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 14:40:24

[quote92a9f663a0="oleus"]waiting game part 2 is now underway. just got this from ytb

Thank you for contacting us.
Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Darren
YourTopBrands Member Support


I'm going back to contacting Mpell on this. They sent the certificates telling us to go buy stuff and that we'd be reimbursed in 8-10 weeks. this is unacceptable. we won't see anything unless we push this guys!![/quote92a9f663a0]

haha wow. back to square one. there wasn't even a need to hire mpell. ARG could have instituted the cash back but they probably didn't want to deal with all that. mpell was used just for the weeding out process, which failed miserably. that's why a lot of audits were sent out as a counter measure. sucks for mpell because their BBB rating will almost certainly be compromised.

oleus

08-04-2009 14:47:50

mpell was able to tell me exactly how many certificates/money i had been approved for, yet YTB can't tell me anything and i have two offers missing from my page now.

this sounds like one big swindle we fell for.


MPELL has to be held responsible for getting involved in this and sending us the letters stating that we had to go buy items to get reimbursed within 8-10 weeks. what a joke

mariners1999

08-04-2009 14:52:56

[quote1d9448c093="oleus"]mpell was able to tell me exactly how many certificates/money i had been approved for, yet YTB can't tell me anything and i have two offers missing from my page now.

this sounds like one big swindle we fell for.


MPELL has to be held responsible for getting involved in this and sending us the letters stating that we had to go buy items to get reimbursed within 8-10 weeks. what a joke[/quote1d9448c093]

I am going to chill for a few weeks to see how this all shakes out. By the middle to end of April we should know a bit more. For me to be at my 10 weeks it will be April 24th anyway so I will wait until then since it does not help my blood pressure to get all freaked out at this point.

? M

klangy

08-04-2009 14:54:20

I sent an email to MPEL and the response I got back was they are going to start sending out checks in 2 weeks, no mention that they had started sending anything yet.

RolltheStampede

08-04-2009 14:55:30

You are probably right, im at 10 weeks tomorrow but i will give this thread some time off. a couple or weeks or until i get my check.

oleus

08-04-2009 14:57:02

[quote58f5873f50="klangy"]I sent an email to MPEL and the response I got back was they are going to start sending out checks in 2 weeks, no mention that they had started sending anything yet.[/quote58f5873f50]

guys, the 8-10 week thing is out the window. i just got off the phone with MPELL and the lady said the ball is in ARG's court and as of today ARG is saying they have no idea how long it's going to be before they start sending them out because they're so overwhelmed.

we're back to how things were before the mpell fiasco , with the major difference being a lot of us spent money on gifts.

tiffrnwhitney

08-04-2009 14:57:36

well any complaints left on the BBB for Mpell be answered with the statement, "we made the mistake getting involved with this type of business". I really don't think Mpell will give a crap. I should have my husband stop by ARG in NY. Be is based out of JFK airport so he is there all the time. I would love to know why they are doing in the office all day. Probably sitting on their fat tushes eating doughnuts and LOL.

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 15:09:20

[quote31d8e840d6="tiffrnwhitney"]well any complaints left on the BBB for Mpell be answered with the statement, "we made the mistake getting involved with this type of business". I really don't think Mpell will give a crap. I should have my husband stop by ARG in NY. Be is based out of JFK airport so he is there all the time. I would love to know why they are doing in the office all day. Probably sitting on their fat tushes eating doughnuts and LOL.[/quote31d8e840d6]

they are preparing to file for chapter 11. they are just stringing us along...might scheme to implement some more weed out techniques to show us they still have a pulse. brad will cash in, and we will continue to wait for nothing.

hope I'm wrong...but I have little faith.

Eeyore

08-04-2009 15:18:48

If they were going to do that they would not have bothered with Mpell. Not saying that they won't go titsup but assuming this was a huge ruse toward that end is silly. Ironically, the more complaints filed with the NY AG office the more likely that it will happen. C'est la vie.

mariners1999

08-04-2009 15:25:28

[quote7e45c5c5d8="Eeyore"]If they were going to do that they would not have bothered with Mpell. Not saying that they won't go titsup but assuming this was a huge ruse toward that end is silly. Ironically, the more complaints filed with the NY AG office the more likely that it will happen. C'est la vie.[/quote7e45c5c5d8]

+1

Agree with Eeyore on this one. I have seen it first hand. Complain to the NY AG office and they will investigate. Then will fine the company some outragious amount 2mil+ or whatever. And the company will close up shop. Best thing to do here is sit and wait it out again. sad but true.

m

kinneylamb

08-04-2009 15:30:25

[quote2286ab40f8="ohboyitsryan"]
I think a good amount of members were approved in late January for mpell so we are all reaching 10 weeks within the next couple of days. [b2286ab40f8]Brandarama changed their phones to prompt the callers that they were behind because of the 'overwhelming amount of cash back certificates returned'.[/b2286ab40f8] The 8-10 week window was probably thrown out a while ago.[/quote2286ab40f8]
which is bs because they're not supposed to be handling the certificates they're just supposed to be sending the funds to mpell for those who got approved, and not audited. i am missing something here, why would approved people's funds go out staggered? we've been approved over and over again.

ohboyitsryan

08-04-2009 15:32:08

[quote7f5300f789="Eeyore"]If they were going to do that they would not have bothered with Mpell. Not saying that they won't go titsup but assuming this was a huge ruse toward that end is silly. Ironically, the more complaints filed with the NY AG office the more likely that it will happen. C'est la vie.[/quote7f5300f789]

they used mpell as a means to drastically limit the amount they would have to pay out. it certainly wasn't a ruse, it was a strategy that failed. their margin for fulfillment wasn't cut enough. they now need another strategy to save themselves financially, in the mean time, we wait.

kinneylamb

08-04-2009 15:32:44

yea please dont use the word titsup, thanks

jtackman

08-04-2009 15:34:43

i told them i will submit complaints to the NY AG in my email and i wasnt joking. im sure the city of new york needs $200,000 in fines to do their daily activities.

kinneylamb

08-04-2009 15:38:36

they are ALWAYS going to have OVERWHELMING demand. they are a flililiing website, on the INTERNET. offering FREE THINGS for participation! Duh! the PROBLEM is not the DEMAND it's they need to wake up and DEAL with the DEMAND in a BETTER way! damn where's i-deal's number? maybe we can hook them up on 3-way

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 15:47:16

[quotea48bdc14f1="mariners1999"][quotea48bdc14f1="neverendingmoolah"]I called back and hit 1 to speak to someone about an existing account.
The lady I spoke to said that they are shipping out sporadically and that Mpell wont know in advance who is scheduled to receive payment. She also said the only way we will know if we have been shipped is to keep checking the status of our account. When it changes to shipped then we will know that our checks have been sent out.

They either actually believe that they will complete the fulfillment process or they want us to believe they will.

I didn't understand why they did not get some help in sending out these payments a logn time agoi. For months ever time I called they said they were back up and would send it out asap. Over and over and over this is what I have heard.[/quotea48bdc14f1]

Well that is not good for me.... Have 4 items that I am CTS for and 2 of them have dissapeared. I emailed them like normal to have them put back up and they told me they were not doing that anymore. That if I sent in my Mpell certs that I don't have to worry about watching the status on their website. So should I email again now?

M[/quotea48bdc14f1]

If I were you I would call them first thing tomorrow morning.
877-312-7263, hit 1 to speak to a live person and ask about your cash back fulfillment checks. When they say anything about you watching the status for shipped, tell them that you accounts are not showing up. This is what I did and she asked for my email addy and put them back on my account. She said that when they are that old they go into "archived" after that long. Keep trying until someone restores your account so you can see it. Sadly we have to fight for everything we get on this one!!!

ghounds07

08-04-2009 15:57:05

[quote26a9848323="kinneylamb"]yea please dont use the word titsup, thanks[/quote26a9848323]

yeah, terrible word to say on a forum, I was taken back by it, can't believe he typed that!

titsup.

kinneylamb

08-04-2009 15:58:16

bellyup is better. actually bellydown with our money coming to us would be best.

Daunted

08-04-2009 16:04:07

[quotecb937cd580="neverendingmoolah"][quotecb937cd580="mariners1999"][quotecb937cd580="neverendingmoolah"]I called back and hit 1 to speak to someone about an existing account.
The lady I spoke to said that they are shipping out sporadically and that Mpell wont know in advance who is scheduled to receive payment. She also said the only way we will know if we have been shipped is to keep checking the status of our account. When it changes to shipped then we will know that our checks have been sent out.

They either actually believe that they will complete the fulfillment process or they want us to believe they will.

I didn't understand why they did not get some help in sending out these payments a logn time agoi. For months ever time I called they said they were back up and would send it out asap. Over and over and over this is what I have heard.[/quotecb937cd580]

Well that is not good for me.... Have 4 items that I am CTS for and 2 of them have disappeared. I emailed them like normal to have them put back up and they told me they were not doing that anymore. That if I sent in my Mpell certs that I don't have to worry about watching the status on their website. So should I email again now?

M[/quotecb937cd580]

If I were you I would call them first thing tomorrow morning.
877-312-7263, hit 1 to speak to a live person and ask about your cash back fulfillment checks. When they say anything about you watching the status for shipped, tell them that you accounts are not showing up. This is what I did and she asked for my email addy and put them back on my account. She said that when they are that old they go into "archived" after that long. Keep trying until someone restores your account so you can see it. Sadly we have to fight for everything we get on this one!!![/quotecb937cd580]

I had all my 7 confirmed gifts across 4 of their sites disappear. I emailed them earlier this afternoon that this had occurred and I informed them in the email that I had screen shots of the confirmed gifts. I never got an email response back from them but I just checked all the sites and everything is back to normal, even the old sites I parked came back.

slambam

08-04-2009 16:05:04

Yea, mine are all there....

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 16:06:27

In all honesty, I have been CTS since Oct '07 for the $1000 visa card and I had pretty much given up on seeing anything from them til I got the certificates and the promise from Mpell to go spend money and send in my receipts. They will reimburse me within 8 to 10 weeks. Looks like they are just so unorganized. Or is this all a ploy?

If they are investigated by the authorities, all they have to say is that they plans were derailed by the fraudsters, blah, blah, blah.

I say ths has nothing to do with those who met the requirements without any issues, and at the least they should send immediate payment to everyone who does not have any issues with their account.

neverendingmoolah

08-04-2009 16:22:25

I went back and checked the timeline for the $1k visa g/c offer. That offer was first posted on the forum in April '07. I completed the site in Sept. '07, and went CTS in Oct. '07. However, in June '07, many of the IFW sites changed their fraud policies, and many of the advertisers pulled their offers, which made it more difficult and expensive to complete offers. Apparently, ARG did not get that memo, and left that $1k visa offer up for hundreds of people to complete, when all the while, their advertisers were pulling out, and changing prices, etc. Most IFW's changed their policies during that time, and ARG never made any significant changes at that time. In fact, it was not until nearly 2 years later that ARG made any significant changes, to catch up with their competitors. Now, I'm no expert but it seems they were apparently negligent in the way they conducted business by not removing the website sooner. Consequently, they have received an overwhelming demand which they are having trouble fulfilling.

I think this is a pattern with ARG lack of fulfillment of the $1k visa offer.
They have a problem with fulfillment because they did not take proper action.

JANGALANG32

08-04-2009 16:40:51

[quoted3aefbbfed="neverendingmoolah"]I went back and checked the timeline for the $1k visa g/c offer. That offer was first posted on the forum in April '07. I completed the site in Sept. '07, and went CTS in Oct. '07. However, in June '07, many of the IFW sites changed their fraud policies, and many of the advertisers pulled their offers, which made it more difficult and expensive to complete offers. Apparently, ARG did not get that memo, and left that $1k visa offer up for hundreds of people to complete, when all the while, their advertisers were pulling out, and changing prices, etc. Most IFW's changed their policies during that time, and ARG never made any significant changes at that time. In fact, it was not until nearly 2 years later that ARG made any significant changes, to catch up with their competitors. Now, I'm no expert but it seems they were apparently negligent in the way they conducted business by not removing the website sooner. Consequently, they have received an overwhelming demand which they are having trouble fulfilling.

I think this is a pattern with ARG lack of fulfillment of the $1k visa offer.
They have a problem with fulfillment because they did not take proper action.[/quoted3aefbbfed]

they offerd a 1k visa and a toshiba laptop at 1k for 4 offers. say 250 people did each offer thats a half a million dollars right there that they owe! 4 offers is a quick 10 minute process. if we see any money its going to take a miracle. i cant imagine how much money they owe.

they have 2 options 1) take a huge loss and pay out what they owe or 2) get out of paying (bankrupt, DQ) and make a nice profit with all the money they have been paid by sponsors.

Eeyore

08-04-2009 16:51:33

[quoteac401bc681="kinneylamb"]yea please dont use the word titsup, thanks[/quoteac401bc681]
Don't like it, don't read it. I'm really trying to ignore you but the amount of trash you leave behind is staggering.

I was replying to the post above mine. Nothing to do with you.

kwoodyk34k

08-04-2009 18:55:54

[quote93f7eb018b="Eeyore"][quote93f7eb018b="kinneylamb"]yea please dont use the word titsup, thanks[/quote93f7eb018b]
Don't like it, don't read it. I'm really trying to ignore you but the amount of trash you leave behind is staggering.

I was replying to the post above mine. Nothing to do with you.[/quote93f7eb018b]

How are they to know that they don't like it if they don't read it?
By the time they don't like it it has already been read.

o_o

doylnea

08-04-2009 20:43:01

[quote9a377599ab="jtackman"]well that's good. nuitech never cared about repeating...I know a guy that did stamps.com 16 times. lol[/quote9a377599ab]

I wonder why stamps.com doesn't accept incentive traffic now?

marbs4life

08-04-2009 21:19:12

[quotec5910a67fb="doylnea"][quotec5910a67fb="jtackman"]well that's good. nuitech never cared about repeating...I know a guy that did stamps.com 16 times. lol[/quotec5910a67fb]

I wonder why stamps.com doesn't accept incentive traffic now?[/quotec5910a67fb]

Well, like most companies should realize. It is the most worthless traffic EVER.

LucaBella

09-04-2009 00:13:14

[quotefbcce3806c="kinneylamb"]yea please dont use the word titsup, thanks[/quotefbcce3806c]


are you kidding? the stuff you respond to.. Americans say belly up, UKers tend to say tits up. whats the big damn deal? Censorship sucks.


And they've been saying 2 weeks for 3 weeks now....

kinneylamb

09-04-2009 01:26:15

[quotef040cb900b="LucaBella"]
And they've been saying 2 weeks for 3 weeks now....[/quotef040cb900b]
haha i noticed that too

titsup said by an american would be vulgar
he's not french, he's american. oh wait that's muzzy.

mistertomlinson

09-04-2009 05:46:00

Well I, for one, hope they don't go sweaty balls up. lol

ohboyitsryan

09-04-2009 06:45:15

officially reached my 10th week of mpell redemption approval. too bad that doesn't mean anything, unfortunately.

manOFice

09-04-2009 06:51:09

[quoteacc948bc72="imapepper"]They are not going to make the 8-10 week time period as promised on the redemption certificate.

they now state that it will be 8-10 weeks from when they receive payment.

So that means we are still waiting on freiken ARG to get their act together...send mpell the money and then mpell sends to us!

This could take another freiken year!!!![/quoteacc948bc72]

and queue the 2 year wait

LucaBella

09-04-2009 07:28:56

We'll hit 1000 pages before anyone sees any cash... Can't wait..

oh yeah I can...

dougp70

09-04-2009 07:32:10

Wrote these guys for the fun of it, got this response

Thank you for contacting us.

You were mailed a Cash Back Certificate from Mpell Solutions. This was mailed Jan 21/09 and the offer expired Feb 26/09. The Cash Back Certificate replaced all the outstanding gifts. You had to have participated in the offer to receive your cash back for your outstanding gift. This is no longer available and you will not be receiving your outstanding gift. I'm sorry. No exception's

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
USASurveyGroup Member Support


On a lighter note - Titsup sounds like a condiment.

dougp70

09-04-2009 07:52:57

The 2 weeks thing reminds me of the movie The Money Pit.

oleus

09-04-2009 08:09:57

i miss Kim

for two days now i've been trying to get my disappearing offers straightened out. I keep getting alternating responses back to "try again", and/or that as long as i sent in my certificates everything should be "fine". Yet they keep telling me the only way to tell when I'm getting my stuff is through the status page. YTB/Brandarama support can't even confirm with me over the phone or via email what exactly they're sending me. Mpell still can, but they say they have no control over ANYTHING related to this anymore. That's too bad since the woman i've talked to at Mpell seems very nice, professional and understanding.

what gives?

ohboyitsryan

09-04-2009 08:32:16

in all honesty kim didn't really do much. her job was simple, answer the phones by saying 'member support' then proceed to feed us the same rhetoric every time we called, essentially having no status updates for outstanding accounts. while she was nice, I don't believe I've ever gained any substantial insight into anything from her. still trying to figure out why people on the forums praised her so much...

dubbin87

09-04-2009 08:32:54

[quote98b8d5bd2f="dougp70"]The 2 weeks thing reminds me of the movie The Money Pit.[/quote98b8d5bd2f]

good movie. lol

oleus

09-04-2009 09:15:30

since there seems to be some others having the same problem, if anyone here is able to get them to "find" their missing offers on the status page, let me know how you did it. i'm not having any luck, keep being told to "try again" and "keep checking". it was a $500 best buy card and $500 harley voucher i was CTS ages ago for that disappeared some time last week.

no DQ letter for me so i don't think that's it....

normally i would take their "as long as you sent your certificates in" line and just relax, but since they are saying the status page is the only way to tell when and what you are receiving, i am a bit concerned.

bruman

09-04-2009 09:21:53

They are all being sent on one check. That means if you have just one status you can view that's all you need. Once that goes shipped your check for all of them go shipped.

PS600REVX

09-04-2009 09:23:55

[quote4df36f8577="bruman"]They are all being sent on one check. That means if you have just one status you can view that's all you need. Once that goes shipped your check for all of them go shipped.[/quote4df36f8577]

Yep, and as long as you have copies of MPELL certs as proof of what you have done, there should be no worries. Besides the fact that ARG probably won't ship that check until 2011.

ghounds07

09-04-2009 09:24:47

Or so we think, I don't really trust anything from ARG anymore (

Thankfully my 10 weeks is up next week so I'll just call Mpell then, they seem a little bit more put together than ARG.

bruman

09-04-2009 09:45:20

If ARG was smart they would have already shipped at least SOME peoples checks out.. that way it would curb some of the negativity and possible legal charges against them right now.

They are trying to cover 15 months of confirmed gifts in one fell swoop here so they must have been at least somewhat prepared to fork over some money.

dubbin87

09-04-2009 10:03:02

They are just stalling till the bankruptcy paperwork goes through.

fbskiracer

09-04-2009 10:17:49

I hate to say this but Mpell could be legally held as a defendent. I know someone who sued for a misreporting on credit reports and naming the credit agency, the collection agency, and the company that sold the debt to the collections agency. They won 11K for "negative impact on credit rating."

Someone explain to me why Mpell isn't being more proactive about this as they are clearly running out of time. The certificates we got say this is the "easier way [to get gift] through the new cashback certificate program." They also deem Mpell the "Fulfillment Partner". If I were Mpell I would terminate any contract ARG gave them at least make Mpell look better.

oleus

09-04-2009 10:22:41

mpell can definitely be held accountable. what a mess.

fbskiracer

09-04-2009 10:27:25

[quotee27541e86b="oleus"]mpell can definitely be held accountable. what a mess.[/quotee27541e86b]

I sent them an email saying whats happening, my credit card interest is piling up since we were guaranteed a check in 10 weeks. They haven't responded.

oleus

09-04-2009 10:31:25

[quote2e3e034315="fbskiracer"][quote2e3e034315="oleus"]mpell can definitely be held accountable. what a mess.[/quote2e3e034315]

I sent them an email saying whats happening, my credit card interest is piling up since we were guaranteed a check in 10 weeks. They haven't responded.[/quote2e3e034315]

if they even respond to the email (i no longer get email responses, i have to call) they'll just refer you to ARG. as nice as the lady on the phone is for MPell, they aren't able to give us any information anymore about this fiasco.

when i said they could be held accountable, i meant legally, not necessarily that we could get anything done on our own.

ohboyitsryan

09-04-2009 10:31:41

somebody who lives in NY needs to thug up and storm the ARG building

fbskiracer

09-04-2009 10:39:37

[quote218042c8f4]
We expect to start shipping checks in mid April. All certificates will be paid on one check. The checks will be sent via regular mail, no signature required. Thank you!
Sincerely, Mpell Solutions Customer Service[/quote218042c8f4]


Take this with a grain of salt.

-or-

I have a bridge to sell you...

oleus

09-04-2009 10:41:15

YTB finally added back the missing offers.

Eeyore

09-04-2009 10:43:04

[quote1f7f1d07f5="ohboyitsryan"]somebody who lives in NY needs to thug up and storm the ARG building[/quote1f7f1d07f5]
What makes you think that your thug wouldn't be met with the much bigger and nastier thugs that are ARG...

8)

box86rowh

09-04-2009 10:46:20

[quote834fd59935="Eeyore"][quote834fd59935="ohboyitsryan"]somebody who lives in NY needs to thug up and storm the ARG building[/quote834fd59935]
What makes you think that your thug wouldn't be met with the much bigger and nastier thugs that are ARG...

8)[/quote834fd59935]
You would need many thugs...

ohboyitsryan

09-04-2009 10:46:32

[quotec73bff46e4="Eeyore"][quotec73bff46e4="ohboyitsryan"]somebody who lives in NY needs to thug up and storm the ARG building[/quotec73bff46e4]
What makes you think that your thug wouldn't be met with the much bigger and nastier thugs that are ARG...

8)[/quotec73bff46e4]

oj would have been down.

jtackman

09-04-2009 10:46:58

i can 95% guarantee none of you will be receiving anything...

bruman

09-04-2009 10:51:06

[quote09469b8521="jtackman"]i can 95% guarantee none of you will be receiving anything...[/quote09469b8521]

[quote09469b8521="dubbin87"]They are just stalling till the bankruptcy paperwork goes through.[/quote09469b8521]

Here we go again roll

neverendingmoolah

09-04-2009 10:51:25

that sucks.

jtackman

09-04-2009 11:01:05

what? i think its the truth. and ya know what, if anyone here gets a check before april 30th im sending them $100.

Eeyore

09-04-2009 11:04:52

For those wanting something to do while waiting and you are past 10 weeks, you could write a nice, coherent businesslike letter ( on paper, not an email) stating that you relied on Mpell's representations regarding their cashback certificate and are suffering expenses directly the result of that reliance (see credit card interest comment above), and wish to know why you should be required to pay these expenses solely due to the lack of their timely check shipment.

Two things to keep in mind (1) The certificate says "[b2cad8d187d]You will receive a Cash-back check for the value of your purchase up to $x within 8-10 weeks from the day we receive your certificate.[/b2cad8d187d] (2) Mpell gives themselves two 'outs'. [b2cad8d187d] "By participating in this promotion, recipient releases and holds harmless Mpell and its affiliates of any liability. This offer is void under the following conditions [/b2cad8d187d]{...} [b2cad8d187d]if the promotion is misrepresented or abused by the Sponsor[/b2cad8d187d]".

Try to work the first one without tripping over the second. At this point I'm sure they are starting to think ARG is abusing them.

Mpell Solutions' real mailing address is

Mpell Solutions, LLC
3142 Tiger Run Ct #108
Carlsbad, CA 92010

The CEO's name is Oran Thomas

Be nice. Be lucid. Be professional. But ask for your check if it has been more than 10 weeks since they received your certificate per the language in #1.

ohboyitsryan

09-04-2009 11:17:55

mpell is a toothless tiger in this situation and has no authority to send checks against the auspices of ARG. ARG has their finger on the trigger, as they are the ones who can solely approve check distribution. mpell can suggest that ARG approve the release of funds, but that's about all they can do right now.

PS600REVX

09-04-2009 11:33:04

[quoteffb3cf3979="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quoteffb3cf3979]

Some news on my situation which is described above. Unbelievable as it may seem, we both received an e-mail stating that it has been found that we are in full compliance and our accounts are back to active and no longer suspended. The 1st positive e-mail I have heard of in response to a suspension letter.

Eeyore

09-04-2009 11:36:59

I still think they used those audit letters as a scare tactic to beat back those who did scam them one way or another, knowing that a certain percentage would not reply at all. More breakage for them, and $6 for certified mail to save several thousand dollars in payout is a pretty good return even if only one in 100 works.

At least they seem to be moving forward. Thanks for the update.

desertwilite

09-04-2009 11:39:45

Wow that's cool. Was that email in answer to your original audit letter or from the second one they are sending some people?

PS600REVX

09-04-2009 11:45:16

[quotee61d2b6af4="desertwilite"]Wow that's cool. Was that email in answer to your original audit letter or from the second one they are sending some people?[/quotee61d2b6af4]

The original

viperklt21

09-04-2009 11:47:03

[quote2a6f7d4d33="PS600REVX"]

Some news on my situation which is described above. Unbelievable as it may seem, we both received an e-mail stating that it has been found that we are in full compliance and our accounts are back to active and no longer suspended. The 1st positive e-mail I have heard of in response to a suspension letter.[/quote2a6f7d4d33]


Reasons like this why I still think we are going to get our money. And I am looking to take whoever that was up on the 100 dollar offer.

bruman

09-04-2009 12:01:15

[quote2af8eaeda3="viperklt21"][quote2af8eaeda3="PS600REVX"]

Some news on my situation which is described above. Unbelievable as it may seem, we both received an e-mail stating that it has been found that we are in full compliance and our accounts are back to active and no longer suspended. The 1st positive e-mail I have heard of in response to a suspension letter.[/quote2af8eaeda3]


Reasons like this why I still think we are going to get our money. And I am looking to take whoever that was up on the 100 dollar offer.[/quote2af8eaeda3]

Yeah.. I'm pretty sure we'll see something by April 30th.

oleus

09-04-2009 12:07:19

i am hoping your optimism can rub off on me. i'm thinking mid/late summertime at best with the way the last few weeks have been.

dougp70

09-04-2009 12:33:35

We still have no reason not to believe Mpell, since there is still time for them to make good. So far they haven't been disproved of anything. Let it go for now, and then when you finally know for sure you've been screwed, then you can bitch about it. Until then why don't we just try and be optimistic, not such a bunch of whine asses.

jtackman

09-04-2009 13:04:03

ps600 did you threaten them a lot? that worked for me before on a couple companies years back

neverendingmoolah

09-04-2009 13:05:59

Hey,
Looks like ARG is stuck again with this huge payout for the 4 offer $1k promo. Obviously this has affected their payout for the other offers they are running. Unfortunately no one is really getting anything from them lately. They should either be working on a solution to this problem they have or stop allowing new sites to be completed since they are only sinking further into the hole. They are liable for paying $1k for 4 offers, when I-deal is paying out $500 for 8 offers. Huge difference guys and I say they really efed up.

LucaBella

09-04-2009 13:13:12

[quotef643e3a6bc="Eeyore"]For those wanting something to do while waiting and you are past 10 weeks, you could write a nice, coherent businesslike letter ( on paper, not an email) stating that you relied on Mpell's representations regarding their cashback certificate and are suffering expenses directly the result of that reliance (see credit card interest comment above), and wish to know why you should be required to pay these expenses solely due to the lack of their timely check shipment.

Two things to keep in mind (1) The certificate says "[bf643e3a6bc]You will receive a Cash-back check for the value of your purchase up to $x within 8-10 weeks from the day we receive your certificate.[/bf643e3a6bc] (2) Mpell gives themselves two 'outs'. [bf643e3a6bc] "By participating in this promotion, recipient releases and holds harmless Mpell and its affiliates of any liability. This offer is void under the following conditions [/bf643e3a6bc]{...} [bf643e3a6bc]if the promotion is misrepresented or abused by the Sponsor[/bf643e3a6bc]".

Try to work the first one without tripping over the second. At this point I'm sure they are starting to think ARG is abusing them.

Mpell Solutions' real mailing address is

Mpell Solutions, LLC
3142 Tiger Run Ct #108
Carlsbad, CA 92010

The CEO's name is Oran Thomas

Be nice. Be lucid. Be professional. But ask for your check if it has been more than 10 weeks since they received your certificate per the language in #1.[/quotef643e3a6bc]

Mpell's hands are tied, we will never see a dime if ARG doesn't pay them, so this type of thing just drives the workers nuts, demanding things from the ones who don't have anything to give won't work.

I really hate the way people encourage everyone to send in emails and write once or twice a week and ask the same 2 questions thousands of times, it just helps no one.

chewy

09-04-2009 14:19:14

[quoteb798d101aa="jtackman"]what? i think its the truth. and ya know what, if anyone here gets a check before april 30th im sending them $100.[/quoteb798d101aa]

ok, thanks!

dougp70

09-04-2009 14:37:02

I'll take my $100 too.

Eeyore

09-04-2009 14:49:37

[quoteb83006fa65="LucaBella"]I really hate the way people encourage everyone to send in emails and write once or twice a week and ask the same 2 questions thousands of times, it just helps no one.[/quoteb83006fa65]
That's why I said write a real paper letter and mail it, not an email. For one it cuts down on the ranting and also gives the Greek chorus here something to do with their ADD-addled minds.

And I'll probably be collecting on that $100 myself.

PS600REVX

09-04-2009 14:57:32

[quotecbf619bf98="jtackman"]ps600 did you threaten them a lot? that worked for me before on a couple companies years back[/quotecbf619bf98]

Not once. Just wrote a very detailed, well written e-mail plus my situation is somewhat different in that I did not complete any offers more than once unlike most who received the letter.

PS600REVX

09-04-2009 15:00:59

[quoteacc89fd712="jtackman"]what? i think its the truth. and ya know what, if anyone here gets a check before april 30th im sending them $100.[/quoteacc89fd712]

Sorry, need to disagree. It may not be soon but there is no way in hell they would have bothered with the MPELL thing if they just planned on packing it in. Making people who did kinda cheat buy gifts and then DQ them is one level of shady, making every single person buy something and then never paying is on a level that is not even measurable. I think they are just thinning the list out a little more where they can and then will start, eventually, paying. Just my opinion.

kinneylamb

09-04-2009 15:07:06

so i called the brandarama number right. i listened for the message that you guys wrote about. i think they're talking about people who are confirmed to ship since january, those people have probably been calling and writing like "where the hell is my cashback certificate / gift"? our certificates have already been processed, in fact some of us are being audited lol. this message sounds like its for cashback certificates that weren't even processed / sent out. in other words, they are having a shipping delay even getting the cashback certificates out. lol?

beerman

09-04-2009 16:20:06

got this yesterday

On Apr 8, 2009, at 626 PM, Sylvia Magana wrote

We are waiting for the transfer of funds from Active Response. They have promised us it would be sent within two weeks. Please feel free to call Active Response 877 312-7263 and get a better update.
Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575

neverendingmoolah

09-04-2009 16:22:25

[quote43f9ebdb7e="kinneylamb"]so i called the brandarama number right. i listened for the message that you guys wrote about. i think they're talking about people who are confirmed to ship since january, those people have probably been calling and writing like "where the hell is my cashback certificate / gift"? our certificates have already been processed, in fact some of us are being audited lol. this message sounds like its for cashback certificates that weren't even processed / sent out. in other words, they are having a shipping delay even getting the cashback certificates out. lol?[/quote43f9ebdb7e]

I think they are overwhelmed, and they are in turn overwhelming us.
In other words, Sh-t slides downhill.

dubbin87

09-04-2009 16:27:17

[quote6b2ef8c750="beerman"]got this yesterday

On Apr 8, 2009, at 626 PM, Sylvia Magana wrote

We are waiting for the transfer of funds from Active Response. They have promised us it would be sent within two weeks. Please feel free to call Active Response 877 312-7263 and get a better update.
Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575[/quote6b2ef8c750]

A promise from ARG? That's funny. lol

neverendingmoolah

09-04-2009 16:31:06

[quoteb3f5149de3="dubbin87"][quoteb3f5149de3="beerman"]got this yesterday

On Apr 8, 2009, at 626 PM, Sylvia Magana wrote

We are waiting for the transfer of funds from Active Response. They have promised us it would be sent within two weeks. Please feel free to call Active Response 877 312-7263 and get a better update.
Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575[/quoteb3f5149de3]

A promise from ARG? That's funny. lol[/quoteb3f5149de3]

Yea looks like Mpell is getting onto them. LOL

mistertomlinson

09-04-2009 16:51:36

Bump.

hum1m9e8r8b

09-04-2009 17:01:38

[quote95e076d27f="mistertomlinson"]Bump.[/quote95e076d27f]
I know what you mean. I start to think something is going on when this thread hasn't been posted to in 24 minutes.

tp24

09-04-2009 17:06:22

[quote008b1f0a20="jtackman"]what? i think its the truth. and ya know what, if anyone here gets a check before april 30th im sending them $100.[/quote008b1f0a20]

Then file for bankruptcy afterwards?

tp24

09-04-2009 17:09:01

[quote845b189f57="Eeyore"][quote845b189f57="ohboyitsryan"]somebody who lives in NY needs to thug up and storm the ARG building[/quote845b189f57]
What makes you think that your thug wouldn't be met with the much bigger and nastier thugs that are ARG...

8)[/quote845b189f57]

Because they wouldn't have the money to pay those thugs, duh.

ghounds07

09-04-2009 17:11:52

[quotefcaf5d8887="dubbin87"][quotefcaf5d8887="beerman"]got this yesterday

On Apr 8, 2009, at 626 PM, Sylvia Magana wrote

We are waiting for the transfer of funds from Active Response. They have promised us it would be sent within two weeks. Please feel free to call Active Response 877 312-7263 and get a better update.
Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575[/quotefcaf5d8887]

A promise from ARG? That's funny. lol[/quotefcaf5d8887]

haha good call dubbin.

oleus

09-04-2009 17:18:55

that last repsonse from Mpell is encouraging, because if ARG doesn't send Mpell the money in 2 weeks we won't have to be the ones wondering/asking where our money is.

ghounds07

09-04-2009 17:20:21

well just posted on brad powers facebook wall...we'll see what happens I told him to send money to mpell.

We'll see how long it takes him to remove me from his friends list hah

Eeyore

09-04-2009 17:21:18

[quotef2d4f92bab="tp24"]Because they wouldn't have the money to pay those thugs, duh.[/quotef2d4f92bab]Silly boy. They [bf2d4f92bab]ARE[/bf2d4f92bab] those thugs.

Eeyore

09-04-2009 17:23:10

[quoted142759756="oleus"]that last repsonse from Mpell is encouraging, because if ARG doesn't send Mpell the money in 2 weeks we won't have to be the ones wondering/asking where our money is.[/quoted142759756]
Yeah, it looks like Mpell is ready to start cutting checks, which is indeed encouraging. It also sounds like they expect the funds transfer to actually happen.

Now to go figure out what to do with my $100.

kinneylamb

09-04-2009 18:52:21

yeah i got that same response, the funds transfer would happen within the next 2 weeks, said ARG. i liked the wording of mpell's answer.

nygiantzrock

09-04-2009 19:09:31

[quote883512fbc1="ghounds07"]well just posted on brad powers facebook wall...we'll see what happens I told him to send money to mpell.

We'll see how long it takes him to remove me from his friends list hah[/quote883512fbc1]
haha.... howd you find him.. is he the one with his wife and kid in the profile picture?

kalinkster

09-04-2009 19:20:31

Update

My YTB status page today

$500 Best Buy Gift Card
Delivered
[Apr-9-09 1134 AM]

If they are talking about the gift card 'delivered' status, well I have not receive anything because they screwed up in updating my new mailing address 2 months ago. They had my zipcode wrong. So every time I login in my YTB account, I have to use the wrong zipcode to check the status. I truly hope they updated my zipcode last week when I notified them about the error.

Btw, I was CTS on December 26 2007.

I'll keep all of you posted here.

Enjoy the weekend.

-kalinkster

kinneylamb

09-04-2009 19:31:33

wait, they screwed up your address 2 months ago.. so did you have to purchase stuff for an mpell certificate? probably not right.

kalinkster

09-04-2009 19:41:24

[quoteae49746f05="kinneylamb"]wait, they screwed up your address 2 months ago.. so did you have to purchase stuff for an mpell certificate? probably not right.[/quoteae49746f05]


No, I was informed that I am going to receive a check in lieu of the original incentive $500 BestBuy card that was CTS 12/2007. I was one of the few people who are not included in that fulfillment program they started with Mpell.

bennyboy5768

09-04-2009 20:58:42

[quotec1883fce75="ghounds07"]well just posted on brad powers facebook wall...we'll see what happens I told him to send money to mpell.

We'll see how long it takes him to remove me from his friends list hah[/quotec1883fce75]

Whats his link? I want to hit him up for money too lol.

Edit nevermind, I found the b@stard

http//www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=579502151

marbs4life

09-04-2009 21:06:15

[quotec03dc42b88="ghounds07"]well just posted on brad powers facebook wall...we'll see what happens I told him to send money to mpell.

We'll see how long it takes him to remove me from his friends list hah[/quotec03dc42b88]

I added him last week. Your post is already gone.

jtackman

09-04-2009 21:12:04

thats not him anyway

marbs4life

09-04-2009 21:13:45

[quote068cc4f861="jtackman"]thats not him anyway[/quote068cc4f861]

Yes it is.

orangejuice

09-04-2009 21:22:27

Well looks like everyone is screwed, nothing new here. damn. oh well. anyone repeating any offers lately?

please no ban!

Eeyore

09-04-2009 21:43:51

[quoteff9e6feacb="jtackman"]thats not him anyway[/quoteff9e6feacb]Certainly looks like the same guy on the ARG website.

cronerd

09-04-2009 22:21:52

[quotedec39d7357="orangejuice"]Well looks like everyone is screwed, nothing new here. damn. oh well. anyone repeating any offers lately?

please no ban![/quotedec39d7357]

wait...is orangejuice banned? lol

nygiantzrock

09-04-2009 22:37:33

Why did he get banned? I just friend requested Brad Powers, after this he probably won't accept random friend requests for a long long time.

ikeepsecrets

09-04-2009 22:41:50

[quote02ac78b89a="orangejuice"]Well looks like everyone is screwed, nothing new here. damn. oh well. anyone repeating any offers lately?

please no ban![/quote02ac78b89a]

The mighty oj! I bow to you

ghounds07

10-04-2009 00:26:29

Brad powers was mine you stluts haha

He deleted my post but sent me a message on facebook saying to contact customer service or send it to him and he will pass it on to them. I think I'll just tell him that his customer service blows ass.

kinneylamb

10-04-2009 01:17:47

[quotedb6bdf9467="PS600REVX"][quotedb6bdf9467="PS600REVX"]I got a letter and check out why. My brother and I who are in completely different households (we are both grown men not two 18 year olds) did offers from the same PC (his was down or he was over visiting, etc) which in no way violated any terms or conditions (besides why would that be term or condition since using the same PC doesn't mean same house and we both have the ID's to prove it). So since we used the same PC they are saying that we are the same person using different e-mails to complete the same offer!! Which is completely untrue!! Especially since the offers don't let you sign up more than once from the same house!! I should have no problem fighting and winning this with the facts at hand. If I had truly frauded I would admit it but I didn't!! But still back to the basic fact that they made you buy something with the money they said was coming and now want to DQ!! Even for the people who did fraud, that is unacceptable.[/quotedb6bdf9467]

Some news on my situation which is described above. Unbelievable as it may seem, we both received an e-mail stating that it has been found that we are in full compliance and our accounts are back to active and no longer suspended. The 1st positive e-mail I have heard of in response to a suspension letter.[/quotedb6bdf9467]

congratulations!!! D

[quotedb6bdf9467="ohboyitsryan"]in all honesty kim didn't really do much. her job was simple, answer the phones by saying 'member support' then proceed to feed us the same rhetoric every time we called, essentially having no status updates for outstanding accounts. while she was nice, I don't believe I've ever gained any substantial insight into anything from her. still trying to figure out why people on the forums praised her so much...[/quotedb6bdf9467]
she gave it to you straight. if she didn't know, she'd say that and tell you how management didn't fill her in. she was on our side, and went the extra mile to answer specific questions. she didn't care for canned, polished responses, at least by e-mail, b/c she knew we were sick of that. i got comfy w/ her and established a good repore. she'd e-mail you back like a friend would, with a paragraph and down to earth responses. she was weathered. and i miss that.

kinneylamb

10-04-2009 01:26:14

[quotee31c175efb]
We expect to start shipping checks in mid April. All certificates will be paid on one check. The checks will be sent via regular mail, no signature required. Thank you!
Sincerely, Mpell Solutions Customer Service[/quotee31c175efb]

does anyone know where the "[ue31c175efb]april 17[/ue31c175efb]" date originated from? did someone ask mpell and that was their response? i cant find a search feature for the forum, sucks cause there doesn't appear to be one.

hawke12

10-04-2009 04:52:01

[quote926d75b679="fbskiracer"][quote926d75b679]
We expect to start shipping checks in mid April. All certificates will be paid on one check. The checks will be sent via regular mail, no signature required. Thank you!
Sincerely, Mpell Solutions Customer Service[/quote926d75b679]

does anyone know where the "[u926d75b679]april 17[/u926d75b679]" date originated from? did someone ask mpell and that was their response? i cant find a search feature for the forum, sucks cause there doesn't appear to be one.[/quote926d75b679]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/search.php

It's at the Top of the page. )

dougp70

10-04-2009 06:08:29

Same response here today

Hello,
Active Response is scheduled to transfer funds within the next two weeks. Reimbursement should be mailed out soon after.
Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575

JANGALANG32

10-04-2009 06:43:54

to anybody that got an audit letter that threatened a lawsuit, have you heard anything?

klangy

10-04-2009 07:32:22

[quotee173e76ea3="JANGALANG32"]to anybody that got an audit letter that threatened a lawsuit, have you heard anything?[/quotee173e76ea3]

No, not yet. I don't know if it is good or bad.

JANGALANG32

10-04-2009 07:44:55

[quote6137c6b06d="klangy"][quote6137c6b06d="JANGALANG32"]to anybody that got an audit letter that threatened a lawsuit, have you heard anything?[/quote6137c6b06d]

No, not yet. I don't know if it is good or bad.[/quote6137c6b06d]

im just trying to get my account reinstated before they send any money to mpell..can you imagine trying to get them to send your money after they have sent the money to mpell?

walrus9

10-04-2009 11:59:27

My ten week mark is Monday and I've talked to both ARG and Mpell today. ARG told me that they are having Mpell send checks, but Mpell told me that ARG is telling them not to send checks. When I called ARG back, I was told that the checks that are shipping must be from an expedited December list. I'm all into being patient, but this is getting a little ridiculous.

oleus

10-04-2009 12:14:45

[quote83de6b7fc9="walrus9"]My ten week mark is Monday and I've talked to both ARG and Mpell today. ARG told me that they are having Mpell send checks, but Mpell told me that ARG is telling them not to send checks. When I called ARG back, I was told that the checks that are shipping must be from an expedited December list. I'm all into being patient, but this is getting a little ridiculous.[/quote83de6b7fc9]

any chance the "expedited dec. shipping list" are the people who got and sent back Mpell certificates?

wishful thinking maybe. if that's not it, Mpell needs to be made aware of what ARG is saying. "expedited december list? could they make this any more convoluted and mysterious to those of us who fronted money on the MPell offer!?!?!?!?

FYI to all - MPell seems to be forwarding any email to them about this onto ARG. I use my new email account i've never used for offers to correspond with mpell ..and today Bradarama support emailed me today at that address to tell me they didn't see me in their system.

walrus9

10-04-2009 12:46:05

[quote491da4e385="oleus"][quote491da4e385="walrus9"]My ten week mark is Monday and I've talked to both ARG and Mpell today. ARG told me that they are having Mpell send checks, but Mpell told me that ARG is telling them not to send checks. When I called ARG back, I was told that the checks that are shipping must be from an expedited December list. I'm all into being patient, but this is getting a little ridiculous.[/quote491da4e385]

any chance the "expedited dec. shipping list" are the people who got and sent back Mpell certificates?

wishful thinking maybe. if that's not it, Mpell needs to be made aware of what ARG is saying. "expedited december list? could they make this any more convoluted and mysterious to those of us who fronted money on the MPell offer!?!?!?!?

FYI to all - MPell seems to be forwarding any email to them about this onto ARG. I use my new email account i've never used for offers to correspond with mpell ..and today Bradarama support emailed me today at that address to tell me they didn't see me in their system.[/quote491da4e385]

It was not the people who got and sent back Mpell certificates. I'd fall into that category.

oleus

10-04-2009 13:16:56

well then....more and more confusion/changing stories/contradictions from arg. hopefully mpell will help out when two weeks are up and the funds to pay the people they sent certificates to and approved aren't there.

RyanG

10-04-2009 13:39:02

One of my status's came back alive lol. Still no response from the audit on 3/31 tho...

neverendingmoolah

10-04-2009 15:18:52

My 10 weeks is approaching next week and like so many of you I am wondering how much longer ARG will take to either send the cash back payment or give us a timeline when to expect payment. It would not be so bad if this had just started in January when we first got the certs, but things have been long and drawn out with this since October 2007. I am not giving up though. So we wait!!

neverendingmoolah

10-04-2009 15:20:32

[quotec284575117="RyanG"]One of my status's came back alive lol. Still no response from the audit on 3/31 tho...[/quotec284575117]

That is some good news. Perhaps they are making progress, slowly but surely.

nygiantzrock

10-04-2009 15:32:07

[quote259ed95414="neverendingmoolah"][quote259ed95414="RyanG"]One of my status's came back alive lol. Still no response from the audit on 3/31 tho...[/quote259ed95414]

That is some good news. Perhaps they are making progress, slowly but surely.[/quote259ed95414]
I tried going to brandarama.com and it says "we are experiencing technical difficulties", then I just tried again and the site won't load. Anybody else having this problem?

Maybe they aren't making progress.

mistertomlinson

10-04-2009 15:39:19

I was JUST going to post that!

nygiantzrock

10-04-2009 15:41:26

[quote9b9311079b="mistertomlinson"]I was JUST going to post that![/quote9b9311079b]

lol, the best part is when you go to brandarama.com, it says darama.com is experiencing technical difficulties. That's what their site should really be.

livingloud28

10-04-2009 15:49:09

All of their domains are down I wonder whats up !

neverendingmoolah

10-04-2009 16:17:25

[quote485502b76c="livingloud28"]All of their domains are down I wonder whats up ![/quote485502b76c]

They go through that periodically. Part of their purging process I think??

neverendingmoolah

10-04-2009 16:21:26

[quote664adb5672="livingloud28"]All of their domains are down I wonder whats up ![/quote664adb5672]

I just tried to log in at YTB and RewardsParade. Here is the error code I am receiving. Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)

bruman

10-04-2009 16:23:41

Status is back.. they seem to be working on it right now.

mistertomlinson

10-04-2009 16:24:20

[quote72279b8b7b="nygiantzrock"][quote72279b8b7b="mistertomlinson"]I was JUST going to post that![/quote72279b8b7b]

lol, the best part is when you go to brandarama.com, it says darama.com is experiencing technical difficulties. That's what their site should really be.[/quote72279b8b7b]

Phew... that MUST be the technical difficulty being referenced. They must be fixing the typo. Thank god... here I was expecting something bad.

kinneylamb

10-04-2009 21:35:16

the december expedited list, is for people who gave excuses to receive their gifts faster. they began receiving those checks in january i believe. while the rest of us had to go through mpell.

i am starting to think that, when people's gifts started dissappearing a few weeks ago, that's when we were being audited.

oleus

11-04-2009 00:16:46

but some of us who weren't audited had gifts disappear, then re-appear when we contacted them.

at this point i really don't think i'm seeing a cent without legal action, seeing as how this is playing out. if none of the mpell certificate people have seen anything by the end of may i think we have a good case, and mpell's involvement is key.

Zags1199

11-04-2009 00:29:02

Gifts have always been disappearing throughout this whole two year ordeal because their websites are set up to archive gifts after a long time.

I'm one of the people who is supposed to be paid directly from ARG, and I have yet to receive anything, FWIW.

kinneylamb

11-04-2009 02:34:19

really cause i never saw or heard of people's gifts dissappearing till a few weeks back. i thought that b/c we all had to have our accounts looked at, regardless of who was sent an audit letter. just suspicious that this all happened around the same time.
in fact after i contacted customer service a few days ago, my account page was screwed up, the gifts in question were rearranged. so they must have the ability to touch it. then it went back to normal.

edit zags were you on the december expedited list, or did you complain, or never receive your mpell letter, or what?

ILoveToys

11-04-2009 07:39:16

Gifts have always disappeared on occasion....It's not big deal.

FreeOffersNow

11-04-2009 08:10:47

First, I'm sure everyone was audited. If you got a letter, that means you met the disqualification criteria. If you didn't, you "passed" the audit.

Also, I did not receive a letter. I used the same email across all accounts, and did not repeat offers. I have, however, had gifts disappear periodically (from a development standpoint, the archiving explanation isn't very farfetched). In the past, I have sent a request to support to have them display again. This time around I'm not sure it matters.

oleus

11-04-2009 08:49:14

still there is a disconnect here that will need to be addressed - MPell thinks (or at least did a couple of days ago in email repsonses) that they were getting the funds to send the checks to the people who got certificates within two weeks. ARG is saying this is just for the december "expedited list".

prizejunkie

11-04-2009 09:23:35

Who's expecting the 2500 college check? The sites gone, and I got no reply from the email I sent.. this is nuts... how can i check my ststus if the domain is gone

bruman

11-04-2009 09:39:05

[quote40f5dc053a="prizejunkie"]Who's expecting the 2500 college check? The sites gone, and I got no reply from the email I sent.. this is nuts... how can i check my ststus if the domain is gone[/quote40f5dc053a]

I am... is that the only gift your waiting on? If not, view another CTS status to see when it's going to ship.

prizejunkie

11-04-2009 10:07:38

yup thats the only one i'm waiting on

mistertomlinson

11-04-2009 14:23:33

I'm also waiting on the $2,500. I've also had a couple sites disappear, but have decided not to worry about it, seeing as how MPell already has everything they need to pay me. I don't really see what good the status page is anymore. God knows they wont update them when the checks go shipped, regardless of what they say.

orangejuice

11-04-2009 14:38:54

liifli the checks go shipped you mean. i've written this off and its a bonus if anything comes.

oleus

11-04-2009 15:51:23

[quote2dba59b952="orangejuice"]liifli the checks go shipped you mean. i've written this off and its a bonus if anything comes.[/quote2dba59b952]

i'm with you 100%. people can bash us "naysayers" all they want, but ARG isn't really doing anything at all to suggest they're doing anything but screwing the Mpell certificate customers out of what was stated to be one thing but is turning out to be another.

i think May 1 is a perfectly reasonable date to start hassling Mpell about what was stated in the certificates they sent us. I know it's not their fault but they will have more authority to deal with ARG than we will, for better or worse.

klangy

11-04-2009 16:07:11

[quote181afe6c68="oleus"][quote181afe6c68="orangejuice"]liifli the checks go shipped you mean. i've written this off and its a bonus if anything comes.[/quote181afe6c68]

i'm with you 100%. people can bash us "naysayers" all they want, but ARG isn't really doing anything at all to suggest they're doing anything but screwing the Mpell certificate customers out of what was stated to be one thing but is turning out to be another.

i think May 1 is a perfectly reasonable date to start hassling Mpell about what was stated in the certificates they sent us. I know it's not their fault but they will have more authority to deal with ARG than we will, for better or worse.[/quote181afe6c68]

I agree. That is what I intend to do as well.

nygiantzrock

11-04-2009 19:26:03

[quote7757ac26ea="prizejunkie"]Who's expecting the 2500 college check? The sites gone, and I got no reply from the email I sent.. this is nuts... how can i check my ststus if the domain is gone[/quote7757ac26ea]

Just out of curiosity, how many offers was the $2500 college check site?

mistertomlinson

11-04-2009 19:41:57

[quote167b1bd793="nygiantzrock"][quote167b1bd793="prizejunkie"]Who's expecting the 2500 college check? The sites gone, and I got no reply from the email I sent.. this is nuts... how can i check my ststus if the domain is gone[/quote167b1bd793]

Just out of curiosity, how many offers was the $2500 college check site?[/quote167b1bd793]

I wanna say 14, but I honestly can't remember. I completed it 6 years and 8 months ago.

... and I don't think negatively towards anyone doubting they'll ever get paid. It's perfectly reasonable to think such, but I for one, have not been given any reason to think they wont. If anything, it's quite the contrary. If they don't intend to pay, they wouldn't have gone into agreement with MPell... secondly, they wouldn't have started DQ'ing people (as unfair as it may be). Both these details suggest we will be paid. If they were going to bailout, they would have done just that, without these recent actions. I'm not saying everyone will be paid and I doubt it will be particularly "soon," but I believe most of us will actually get our money. Again, I understand where the other people are coming from and you could very well be right, but I'm gonna stay optimistic. I got time to wait... I'm saving it for a new car anyway.

nygiantzrock

11-04-2009 19:52:35

[quotea81817b298="mistertomlinson"]I wanna say 14, but I honestly can't remember. I completed it 6 years and 8 months ago.[/quotea81817b298]

Was that an exaggeration or are you serious?

SkatingCrippled

11-04-2009 20:13:45

Exaggeration. Brandarama didn't exist 6 years ago.

kinneylamb

11-04-2009 22:18:22

[quote87a482dc76="oleus"]still there is a disconnect here that will need to be addressed - MPell thinks (or at least did a couple of days ago in email repsonses) that they were getting the funds to send the checks to the people who got certificates within two weeks. ARG is saying this is just for the december "expedited list".[/quote87a482dc76]
ARG is not saying those funds are for the expedited december list. they are saying, checks have been sent out (and were referring to that list, and to complainers and people who never rec'd an mpell letter because they moved, etc.).
there is no disconnect. the funds mpell expects from ARG within two weeks, are for people who received certificates and were approved.

2. how is orangejuice still posting? its annoying.

orangejuice

11-04-2009 22:30:18

haha. I think you are the annoying one here bro. don't count on the money tho. thats all i'm going to say on the situation

doylnea

11-04-2009 22:41:41

OJ was temp-banned.

kinneylamb

12-04-2009 00:27:45

still dont get it but whatever

dubbin87

12-04-2009 07:11:35

[quote939ed98a18="kinneylamb"]
2. how is orangejuice still posting? its annoying.[/quote939ed98a18]

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livingloud28

12-04-2009 07:22:19

I am going to honestly wait a month lol to see if anything comes I give up now lol!

ILoveToys

12-04-2009 08:01:34

[quoteb4dc58a18c="dubbin87"][quoteb4dc58a18c="kinneylamb"]
2. how is orangejuice still posting? its annoying.[/quoteb4dc58a18c]

http/" alt=""/img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/twiggss/misc/potkettleblack.gif[/imgb4dc58a18c][/quoteb4dc58a18c]

kinneylamb

12-04-2009 10:52:24

ugh its like i dont even want this week to come, at least on the weekends you dont have to worry about whats happening lol.

oleus

12-04-2009 12:03:01

there's really nothing we can do/worry about until the latest "two week promise" arg made to mpell is up. then we have every right to raise hell about all the money we spent, expecting to be reimbursed in 8-10 weeks.

bruman

12-04-2009 12:44:34

Obviously there's an intent to pay with ARG, that's why they're making us jump through so many hoops... but at the same time there's an intent to save.

I think Brad Powers would win the douche bag of the century award if he (during this economic downfall when money is short for everyone) told all his customers to go out and spend hundreds and thousands of their own money on crap they didn't need with the promise that he'll pay us back... and then just didn't pay anyone back. That would be sadistically evil on his part haha.
I'm surprised someone got in contact with him on Facebook.. that's the first contact with higher management we've had. Not that it matters much (esp. since it's been posted). I just wish we could get some clear information from this guy (or anyone else that actually KNOWS things).

kwoodyk34k

12-04-2009 12:46:26

Anyone receive any replies from the audit department lately?

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 02:13:55

every time its a new day, i think of majora's mask. each day it gets worse unless we can do 100 million tasks to keep the moon from crashing into us. here's to hoping with the help from tingle that this is a good week.

mistertomlinson

13-04-2009 05:12:43

ooooooooooooooooo k

michae229

13-04-2009 06:52:21

[quote80947e3149="kinneylamb"]every time its a new day, i think of majora's mask. each day it gets worse unless we can do 100 million tasks to keep the moon from crashing into us. here's to hoping with the help from tingle that this is a good week.[/quote80947e3149]


lmao

prizejunkie

13-04-2009 07:51:12

"I guess i'm not high enough to get that one"... "sucks to be you, nerd"

oleus

13-04-2009 08:36:01

i got another email from ARG this morning, to my new email address I never used for offers (but emailed Mpell with a few times) about the huge shipping delays, and that prizes will still be mailed out.

i guess mpell keeps forwarding them these questions we're asking them. funny thing is, i haven't emailed Mpell or ARG since the last time ARG emailed me about this. so this seems to be the first pro-active email i've received from them about a delay i didn't even ask about this time at that email address.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 09:11:18

[quote922fd8eae8="oleus"]i got another email from ARG this morning, to my new email address I never used for offers (but emailed Mpell with a few times) about the huge shipping delays, and that prizes will still be mailed out.

i guess mpell keeps forwarding them these questions we're asking them. funny thing is, i haven't emailed Mpell or ARG since the last time ARG emailed me about this. so this seems to be the first pro-active email i've received from them about a delay i didn't even ask about this time at that email address.[/quote922fd8eae8]

What did it say??

doylnea

13-04-2009 09:11:32

Was that email unprompted, or did you email them asking?

oleus

13-04-2009 09:22:07

[quoteae8aeb37c4="doylnea"]Was that email unprompted, or did you email them asking?[/quoteae8aeb37c4]

it said "due to high demands on the shipping department, there are delays. prizes will be shipped" - from Sherry. so they seem to be back to blaming the "shipping department". seems like old times.....


i didn't email them anything asking, other than through the status page last week and that conversation was over (and with the other email address). but i had emailed mpell a few times about this mess a couple of weeks ago with that new email address (never used for offers). i posted friday about the email from brandarama to that new address telling me they couldn't find my account, at which point i explained to them i had only used that email to contact Mpell and i assumed that was how they got it. they responded back about the delays then, and that conversation was also over... i didn't ask anything new, and today i got another email from brandarama (with my offers email address in the subject line, but email sent to the new address) telling me about the delays. at least it ended with "prizes will be shipped".

hope that makes sense. i have never contacted arg/brandarama with that address so the only thing i can think that happened is that mpell is re-sending old email concerns of mine back onto brandarama...again. maybe Mpell is pressuring them now?

oleus

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 09:28:18

[quote88adffcf3f="oleus"][quote88adffcf3f="doylnea"]Was that email unprompted, or did you email them asking?[/quote88adffcf3f]

it said "due to high demands on the shipping department, there are delays. prizes will be shipped" - from Sherry. so they seem to be back to blaming the "shipping department". seems like old times.....


i didn't email them anything asking, other than through the status page last week and that conversation was over (and with the other email address). but i had emailed mpell a few times about this mess a couple of weeks ago with that new email address (never used for offers). i posted friday about the email from brandarama to that new address telling me they couldn't find my account, at which point i explained to them i had only used that email to contact Mpell and i assumed that was how they got it. they responded back about the delays then, and that conversation was also over... i didn't ask anything new, and today i got another email from brandarama (with my offers email address in the subject line, but email sent to the new address) telling me about the delays. at least it ended with "prizes will be shipped".

hope that makes sense. i have never contacted arg/brandarama with that address so the only thing i can think that happened is that mpell is re-sending old email concerns of mine back onto brandarama...again. maybe Mpell is pressuring them now?

oleus[/quote88adffcf3f]

Makes sense. Better hold onto that email where they are saying they cannot find your account. Just in case they try to say you used 2 email addys, you may have to use it as proof. Best to be safe you know.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 09:30:34

the delay is not a "shipping" problem, for us. she means for new certificates that haven't been mailed out yet. they're not going back to that excuse for our accounts, thank god. but anyway what a helpful e-mail she sent you.

oleus

13-04-2009 09:34:48

[quote10048caf50="neverendingmoolah"][quote10048caf50="oleus"][quote10048caf50="doylnea"]Was that email unprompted, or did you email them asking?[/quote10048caf50]

it said "due to high demands on the shipping department, there are delays. prizes will be shipped" - from Sherry. so they seem to be back to blaming the "shipping department". seems like old times.....


i didn't email them anything asking, other than through the status page last week and that conversation was over (and with the other email address). but i had emailed mpell a few times about this mess a couple of weeks ago with that new email address (never used for offers). i posted friday about the email from brandarama to that new address telling me they couldn't find my account, at which point i explained to them i had only used that email to contact Mpell and i assumed that was how they got it. they responded back about the delays then, and that conversation was also over... i didn't ask anything new, and today i got another email from brandarama (with my offers email address in the subject line, but email sent to the new address) telling me about the delays. at least it ended with "prizes will be shipped".

hope that makes sense. i have never contacted arg/brandarama with that address so the only thing i can think that happened is that mpell is re-sending old email concerns of mine back onto brandarama...again. maybe Mpell is pressuring them now?

oleus[/quote10048caf50]

Makes sense. Better hold onto that email where they are saying they cannot find your account. Just in case they try to say you used 2 email addys, you may have to use it as proof. Best to be safe you know.[/quote10048caf50]

actually they seemed to understand pretty fast when i explained it to them. the only way they could have gotten that email was from mpell customer service, i never used it for any offer because it's my main email address i can't risk getting deluged with spam. if i had repeated offers with that email they could have easily figured that out just by checking... but you're right , during this fiasco it's safe to keep all of these correspondences saved.

seems pretty clear than any email sent over the past months to Mpell is being sent on to ARG now.

oleus

13-04-2009 09:36:40

[quote0a0e215818="kinneylamb"]the delay is not a shipping problem, for us. she means for new certificates that haven't been mailed out yet. they're not going back to that excuse for [u0a0e215818]our[/u0a0e215818] accounts, thank god. but anyway what a helpful e-mail she sent you roll[/quote0a0e215818]

it seemed like a direct response about the gift / mpell certificate reimbursements. that's the only thing i ever emailed Mpell about, and today's email about the shipping delays could have only been about that since it was a question first directed to Mpell and then forwarded on to them. why would they have sent me an email about certificates not yet sent out when they know i have sent my certificates IN months ago?

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 09:39:58

yea but this -- "due to high demands on the shipping department, there are delays. prizes will be shipped" -- doesnt make sense. seeing as how they made the rules for us, and that was 10 weeks ago, they gave themselves 10 weeks to deal with high demands. doesnt make sense to be referring to us.

edit and we mailed our certificates in already, were approved, etc. there should be no delay at this point, unless they were counting their bank account transactions with an abacus. (aside from the audits which we wouldnt know about if it werent for the forum).

oleus

13-04-2009 09:45:38

[quotec8869f0dbb="kinneylamb"]yea but this -- "due to high demands on the shipping department, there are delays. prizes will be shipped" -- doesnt make sense. seeing as how they made the rules for us, and that was 10 weeks ago, they gave themselves 10 weeks to deal with high demands. doesnt make sense to be referring to us.[/quotec8869f0dbb]

doesn't make sense, you're right, but it seems to be what's happening. unless i've missed something, the only clue we've had is a correspondence from Mpell saying they were told they would have the funds in two weeks, but the tone of that email seemed like they didn't even believe what ARG was telling them. they were very careful with their wording and made it clear that any failure to deliver us our money in a timely fashion was squarely on ARG.

and ARG sends me an email about the huge delays, to an email address they could have only gotten from mpell.

i'm not contacting any of them until may 1, at which point all of us have every right to start demanding our money. those Mpell letters telling us to go buy items with our own money stated terms they would clearly be failing to deliver on if we haven't seen anything by then.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 09:56:16

That email is a bit confusing because if the shipping department is again responsible for our reimbursements, what was the reason for involving Mpell in the first place. I thought their role was fulfillment. Duh???

prizejunkie

13-04-2009 09:58:15

damn straight, these companies are gonna be bombarded if they don't pay on time, especially because of the mpell crap we had to go through.

I know you people are reading this
1) We are not stupid, all you have to do is write a very big check to Mpell and they will send all our checks.

2)If you can't do this in a matter for 2 days, you obviously don't have the money to pay us.

I believe brandarama is one big ponzi scheme at this point, that would explain the continually increasing delay in shipping.

hawke12

13-04-2009 10:17:18

[quotee2ca6a1dac="oleus"]at which point all of us have every right to start demanding our money.[/quotee2ca6a1dac]

We had "Every Right" after the initial 6-8 weeks promised after successfully completing their sites the first time.

Here it is, pushing a year and a half to two years for some, and we're still sayin', "Soon" " Just wait a little longer" "the 8-10 weeks MPell gave us Isn't even up yet."

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 10:22:19

Technically my ten week wait is up on the 18th (Saturday).
Not that that means anything, but since I have not reached my entire 10th week yet maybe I'll see something between now and Saturday.

oleus

13-04-2009 10:26:20

[quote9c78da8c04="neverendingmoolah"]That email is a bit confusing because if the shipping department is again responsible for our reimbursements, what was the reason for involving Mpell in the first place. I thought their role was fulfillment. Duh???[/quote9c78da8c04]

"duh" is about the only way to describe anything that's going on.

oleus

13-04-2009 10:27:21

[quote2ca74a3781="neverendingmoolah"]Technically my ten week wait is up on the 18th (Saturday).
Not that that means anything, but since I have not reached my entire 10th week yet maybe I'll see something between now and Saturday.[/quote2ca74a3781]

not to burst your bubble, but you will not be seeing anything between now and saturday.

ohboyitsryan

13-04-2009 10:44:42

[quotecc31396c20="neverendingmoolah"]Technically my ten week wait is up on the 18th (Saturday).
Not that that means anything, but since I have not reached my entire 10th week yet maybe I'll see something between now and Saturday.[/quotecc31396c20]

other people's 10 weeks were up already...I'm hitting 11 weeks before you hit 10. ARG/Mpell threw the 8-10 week window out the door. you should too.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 10:56:39

[quote158e2c5e86="ohboyitsryan"][quote158e2c5e86="neverendingmoolah"]Technically my ten week wait is up on the 18th (Saturday).
Not that that means anything, but since I have not reached my entire 10th week yet maybe I'll see something between now and Saturday.[/quote158e2c5e86]

other people's 10 weeks were up already...I'm hitting 11 weeks before you hit 10. ARG/Mpell threw the 8-10 week window out the door. you should too.[/quote158e2c5e86]

yea. I was processed by Mpell on 04 Feb, which means 04 April woudl be my 8 weeks. The adding fourteen days from the 4th would make it the 18th, so my 10 week deadline is fast approaching. I would not mind if I did not receive anything by my 10th week, if those before me at least got their reimbursements. That way, I'd know they were fulfilling something. As it stands now, they have failed to fulfill anything for anyone.

cny

13-04-2009 11:08:30

[quotef576779f57="neverendingmoolah"]That email is a bit confusing because if the shipping department is again responsible for our reimbursements, what was the reason for involving Mpell in the first place. I thought their role was fulfillment. Duh???[/quotef576779f57]


Initially ARG took 4-6 months to payout. Then the payout started to stretch out to 8-12 months. And each month, it seemed that they could only send out a certain number of gifts; it's like they have a quota for each month and they could only afford to pay a few gifts each month. Then Dec 08/Jan 09, things got haywire with random payments all over the place and the MPell certificates. Also, there were posts made that ARG also decided not to send IRS 1099 for previous gifts sent out.

I think they involved Mpell because at that time Transtech Services Partners had submitted a Letter of Intent (LOI) to buyout(?) ARG. My guess is that ARG had to get rid of "us" fast and decided to use Mpell to do it and hoped that the final payout would drastically decrease. That LOI was due to expire 26 Dec 08, then it was extended till 30 Jan, then 13 Feb and then to March?. On 26 Mar 09, Transtech announced that the LOI was terminated with no buyout. Then, there were posts made that the first of the audit/dq letters went out on 25 Mar 09.

So, it looks like we're back to square one with ARG except that Mpell is now involved too. Will Mpell's involvement help us? Only time will tell. It seems that ARG still can't pay us because it's back to the same "due to high demands on the shipping department, there are delays. prizes will be shipped" excuse that we've heard for more than 12 months.

This is old news but ARG already borrowed $10 million on 30 Mar 2007 http//www.dmconfidential.com/blogs/column/Press_Releases/1261/[]http//www.dmconfidential.com/blogs/column/Press_Releases/1261/, so what happened to that money? That amount is no small change.

dubbin87

13-04-2009 11:33:54

[quote79da36b8bd="cny"][quote79da36b8bd="neverendingmoolah"]That email is a bit confusing because if the shipping department is again responsible for our reimbursements, what was the reason for involving Mpell in the first place. I thought their role was fulfillment. Duh???[/quote79da36b8bd]


Initially ARG took 4-6 months to payout. Then the payout started to stretch out to 8-12 months. And each month, it seemed that they could only send out a certain number of gifts; it's like they have a quota for each month and they could only afford to pay a few gifts each month. Then Dec 08/Jan 09, things got haywire with random payments all over the place and the MPell certificates. Also, there were posts made that ARG also decided not to send IRS 1099 for previous gifts sent out.

I think they involved Mpell because at that time Transtech Services Partners had submitted a Letter of Intent (LOI) to buyout(?) ARG. My guess is that ARG had to get rid of "us" fast and decided to use Mpell to do it and hoped that the final payout would drastically decrease. That LOI was due to expire 26 Dec 08, then it was extended till 30 Jan, then 13 Feb and then to March?. On 26 Mar 09, Transtech announced that the LOI was terminated with no buyout. Then, there were posts made that the first of the audit/dq letters went out on 25 Mar 09.

So, it looks like we're back to square one with ARG except that Mpell is now involved too. Will Mpell's involvement help us? Only time will tell. It seems that ARG still can't pay us because it's back to the same "due to high demands on the shipping department, there are delays. prizes will be shipped" excuse that we've heard for more than 12 months.

This is old news but ARG already borrowed $10 million on 30 Mar 2007 http//www.dmconfidential.com/blogs/column/Press_Releases/1261/[]http//www.dmconfidential.com/blogs/column/Press_Releases/1261/, so what happened to that money? That amount is no small change.[/quote79da36b8bd] shock Now that is a good post.

slambam

13-04-2009 11:37:42

Yea ARG is a bunch of idiots. I do think that mpell will help us. They seem to be getting on ARG about payment. Hopefully the "we're expecting a wire transfer within 2 weeks" that we heard the past week holds true, but I'm not holding my breath.

oleus

13-04-2009 11:42:50

ok guys - arg doesn't even seem to be reading our emails anymore. I just sent a very polite but very specific question about how shipping delays could be affecting the reimbursements for people who sent certificates and were approved by mpell . I got the same generic "we are experiencing huge delays in shipment. Your prize will be shipped" response.

Sheesh.

RyanG

13-04-2009 11:44:09

Cleared from audit.

orangejuice

13-04-2009 11:47:42

what did they originally nab you for? repeating offers?

RyanG

13-04-2009 11:48:17

E-mails.

orangejuice

13-04-2009 11:56:01

did you threaten them at all originally?

RyanG

13-04-2009 11:57:19

Nope. Didn't threaten. It's unwise to threaten when you're at someone's mercy. Thought that was common sense.

orangejuice

13-04-2009 12:05:14

Oh well, i threatened them and i wasnt joking either

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 12:12:40

congrats ryang! )

JANGALANG32

13-04-2009 12:14:01

[






Sincerely,

can you explain what you were suspended for and what you said to them? looks like from the response it was multiple emails and sponsor offers

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 12:14:18

i'd like to remind everyone of the date april 17. i know i saw it somewhere, mpell must have gotten that date from somewhere no?

RyanG

13-04-2009 12:19:01

Explained to them my side. Different rules for different times. My only advice is don't threaten.

dubbin87

13-04-2009 12:19:32

[quotefcfe8dc50d="JANGALANG32"]

can you explain what you were suspended for and what you said to them? looks like from the response it was multiple emails and sponsor offers[/quotefcfe8dc50d]he already stated he got a letter for multi emails....

it's like 4 posts up... ?

JANGALANG32

13-04-2009 12:25:06

it's like 4 posts up... ?

thanks for pointing that out. those must of posted before i was done posting mine

RyanG

13-04-2009 12:27:03

If those who quoted my e-mail would edit it out, I'd appreciate it. I didn't read the bottom disclaimer of the e-mail =/

JANGALANG32

13-04-2009 12:31:37

[quote0886000185="RyanG"]If those who quoted my e-mail would edit it out, I'd appreciate it. I didn't read the bottom disclaimer of the e-mail =/[/quote0886000185]

why? it looks like from your email response they are going to reinstate multiple sponsor offers too. i did a few multiple sponsor offers but in no way did i try to fraud them. so this looks hopeful for me.

dubbin87

13-04-2009 12:37:21

[quoteb022b818f3="RyanG"]If those who quoted my e-mail would edit it out, I'd appreciate it. I didn't read the bottom disclaimer of the e-mail =/[/quoteb022b818f3]

done, don't need to take a chance if you're this close.

good luck.

RyanG

13-04-2009 13:37:44

[quote5b514f94d8="JANGALANG32"][quote5b514f94d8="RyanG"]If those who quoted my e-mail would edit it out, I'd appreciate it. I didn't read the bottom disclaimer of the e-mail =/[/quote5b514f94d8]

why? it looks like from your email response they are going to reinstate multiple sponsor offers too. i did a few multiple sponsor offers but in no way did i try to fraud them. so this looks hopeful for me.[/quote5b514f94d8]

There is a disclaimer at the bottom of the audit e-mail. Basically says not to post what I just did. I'm paranoid and don't want to give them another reason to take me down lol

ghounds07

13-04-2009 14:01:23

[quote4006b8e7bd="cny"]

. . .

This is old news but ARG already borrowed $10 million on 30 Mar 2007 http//www.dmconfidential.com/blogs/column/Press_Releases/1261/[]http//www.dmconfidential.com/blogs/column/Press_Releases/1261/, so what happened to that money? That amount is no small change.[/quote4006b8e7bd]

That money is probably loooong gone (

beerman

13-04-2009 14:24:50

ARG posted some responses to lawsuits today, some entertaining reading....they deny a lot....

Search Court Cases [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/AdvSearch_D.jsp?Criteria=active&Submit4=Search] Search Court Cases

[b20744f1aa6]Plaintiff SKENZO [/b20744f1aa6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 600782-2009 [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=600782-2009]600782-2009
Amount $28,714.21

[b20744f1aa6]Plaintiff CX DIGITAL MEDIA INC[/b20744f1aa6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case100363-2009[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=100363-2009]100363-2009
Amount $59,852.80

[b20744f1aa6]Plaintiff WORKERS COMPENSATION BD OF NYS[/b20744f1aa6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 453664-2008[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=453664-2008]453664-2008
Amount $6,750

[b20744f1aa6]Plaintiff INTEGRACLICK INC/ CLICKBOOTH[/b20744f1aa6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 102542-2009[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=102542-2009]102542-2009
Amount(s)
August 2008 - $138,212.40
September 2008 - $315,329.80
October 2008 - $520,476.80
November 2008 - $672,923.70
December 2008 - $740,204.70
Interest - $757,473.52
If my math is right that about $3.1 Million

Anyone think they are getting their money now?

dubbin87

13-04-2009 14:32:34

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 14:37:19

[quotefa52a85689="beerman"]ARG posted some responses to lawsuits today, some entertaining reading....they deny a lot....

Search Court Cases [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/AdvSearch_D.jsp?Criteria=active&Submit4=Search] Search Court Cases

[bfa52a85689]Plaintiff SKENZO [/bfa52a85689]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 600782-2009 [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=600782-2009]600782-2009
Amount $28,714.21

[bfa52a85689]Plaintiff CX DIGITAL MEDIA INC[/bfa52a85689]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC

Link to Case100363-2009[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=100363-2009]100363-2009
Amount $59,852.80

[bfa52a85689]Plaintiff WORKERS COMPENSATION BD OF NYS[/bfa52a85689]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 453664-2008[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=453664-2008]453664-2008
Amount $6,750

[bfa52a85689]Plaintiff INTEGRACLICK INC/ CLICKBOOTH[/bfa52a85689]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 102542-2009[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=102542-2009]102542-2009
Amount(s)
August 2008 - $138,212.40
September 2008 - $315,329.80
October 2008 - $520,476.80
November 2008 - $672,923.70
December 2008 - $740,204.70
Interest - $757,473.52
If my math is right that about $3.1 Million

Anyone think they are getting their money now?[/quotefa52a85689]

Oh Boy,
They owe clickbooth over $3 million alone. It is incredible how they are still allowing consumers to complete their offers, knowing they owe so much money out. They ought to be closed down for business, and if too many more lawsuits are brought against them in NY Supreme, they will likely not last much longer. This is very sad news, and as individual consumers we are way at the bottom of the food chain as far as getting paid.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 14:45:39

wow even i know what clickbooth is, its the website that some offers use to host their signup pages.

even so, arg is a business. and they still went through all they went through to update the terms and process all these accounts, when they could simply drop us and run off. helping us is either the result of neglect of an entire company's operations, or they have some backhanded plan to keep it all going somehow.

dubbin87

13-04-2009 14:51:21

Dang ACTIVE FIRE SPRINKLER CORP is not very well liked either... lol

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 14:58:30

[quote202912e900="kinneylamb"]wow even i know what clickbooth is, its the website that some offers use to host their signup pages.

even so, arg is a business. and they still went through all they went through to update the terms and process all these accounts, when they could simply drop us and run off. helping us is either the result of neglect of an entire company's operations, or they have some backhanded plan to keep it all going somehow.[/quote202912e900]


CX Media was awarded a judgment against them March12, 2009. Eventually Clickbooth will receive their judgment, which places us at the bottom of the food chain. If ARG is smart, they will pay their end users. That is the only way they will continue to generate new business and ultimately more funds. Otherwise they are toast. If they pay us, word will spread on the forums, and more people will do more offers, and they will generate an evern greater cash flow, because consumer confidence will grow. If they continue with the status quo, they will loose business and will not recover. The legal fees alone will cost them a small fortune.

debo012004

13-04-2009 15:05:08

If you read the court documents for clickbooth ARG only owes them 740,000 plus interest so it seems as though they have been paying them something.

SkatingCrippled

13-04-2009 15:09:16

[quoteeb6b6bb687="neverendingmoolah"][quoteeb6b6bb687="kinneylamb"]wow even i know what clickbooth is, its the website that some offers use to host their signup pages.

even so, arg is a business. and they still went through all they went through to update the terms and process all these accounts, when they could simply drop us and run off. helping us is either the result of neglect of an entire company's operations, or they have some backhanded plan to keep it all going somehow.[/quoteeb6b6bb687]


CX Media was awarded a judgment against them March12, 2009. Eventually Clickbooth will receive their judgment, which places us at the bottom of the food chain. If ARG is smart, they will pay their end users. That is the only way they will continue to generate new business and ultimately more funds. Otherwise they are toast. If they pay us, word will spread on the forums, and more people will do more offers, and they will generate an evern greater cash flow, because consumer confidence will grow. If they continue with the status quo, they will loose business and will not recover. The legal fees alone will cost them a small fortune.[/quoteeb6b6bb687]

They don't make money from us (DIYers). They lose a lot from the people who actually know what they're doing. They make their money when someone signs up, inputs their email, and completes an offer or two then quits.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 15:16:38

[quotee451e70eb1="SkatingCrippled"][quotee451e70eb1="neverendingmoolah"][quotee451e70eb1="kinneylamb"]wow even i know what clickbooth is, its the website that some offers use to host their signup pages.

even so, arg is a business. and they still went through all they went through to update the terms and process all these accounts, when they could simply drop us and run off. helping us is either the result of neglect of an entire company's operations, or they have some backhanded plan to keep it all going somehow.[/quotee451e70eb1]


CX Media was awarded a judgment against them March12, 2009. Eventually Clickbooth will receive their judgment, which places us at the bottom of the food chain. If ARG is smart, they will pay their end users. That is the only way they will continue to generate new business and ultimately more funds. Otherwise they are toast. If they pay us, word will spread on the forums, and more people will do more offers, and they will generate an evern greater cash flow, because consumer confidence will grow. If they continue with the status quo, they will loose business and will not recover. The legal fees alone will cost them a small fortune.[/quotee451e70eb1]

They don't make money from us (DIYers). They lose a lot from the people who actually know what they're doing. They make their money when someone signs up, inputs their email, and completes an offer or two then quits.[/quotee451e70eb1]

Depends on where they are in getting paid from the advertisers. Some of these offers pay as much as $100 per completion. Not to mention any residual sales. At the current rate, they are paying $50 to $60 per offer to the end user. (i.e, 8 offers for a $500 payout). Therefore, they pocket at least $40 per offer (maybe more even). If you have ever had an affiliate marketing account you pretty much know what these guys make. ARG was doing their own publishing CS Media and Clickbooth are considered publishers, and ARG was paying them so, from the looks of things, ARG is paid quite a bit per completed offer, because they had to make enough to pay clickbooth, cs media at least up to the point that the lawsuit was filed. To the contrary, they really do make money from us DIYers per completed offer or not.

bruman

13-04-2009 15:19:55

[quoteb43e41befa]September 2008 - $315,329.80
October 2008 - $520,476.80
November 2008 - $672,923.70
December 2008 - $740,204.70[/quoteb43e41befa]

They must be making a shit load of money too if they owe clickbooth those amounts from those months..

It's a shame they let the interest pile up to $757,473.52... that probably would have been more than enough to pay all of us back. Good find beerman.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 15:20:49

maybe, they just weren't paying those advertising companies in the same way they weren't paying us. maybe someone checked into the office only once every couple of months, lol.

desertwilite

13-04-2009 15:22:18

So does ARG still make their pay when you complete an offer and it does not credit your account?

bruman

13-04-2009 15:25:47

[quotea32a56c884="desertwilite"]So does ARG still make their pay when you complete an offer and it does not credit your account?[/quotea32a56c884]

No, they shouldn't. ARG getting paid for the offer completion is directly connected to you receiving credit. It's basically a freebie for the advertiser/sponsor I think.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 15:26:41

[quote9dd37e66dd="bruman"][quote9dd37e66dd]September 2008 - $315,329.80
October 2008 - $520,476.80
November 2008 - $672,923.70
December 2008 - $740,204.70[/quote9dd37e66dd]

They must be making a shit load of money too if they owe clickbooth those amounts from those months..

It's a shame they let the interest pile up to $757,473.52... that probably would have been more than enough to pay all of us back. Good find beerman.[/quote9dd37e66dd]

Exactly, they are publishers and are therefore paid directly from the advertisers. They pay 3rd party publishers and they pay the end users. Just think. Clickbooth is paid from the same pool that we (the end user) is paid but clickbooth has their own end user to pay. On a much larger scale than us because clickbooth's customers are paid for click thrus. The click thru customer is paid on the level that we are. Out of that amount they are suing ARG for, they will actually pocket about 1/3 or 1/4 as profits. The remainder will go to their Affilate Marketers, which means plenty of wiggle room left for ARG to profit.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 15:36:27

[quote319ae555f9="debo012004"]If you read the court documents for clickbooth ARG only owes them 740,000 plus interest so it seems as though they have been paying them something.[/quote319ae555f9]

I actually think that is encouraging news. If ARG pays up their debts to us, they may actually salvage their company. Once the consumer realizes they are back up for business and will use Mpell for gift fulfillment they may generate a lot of new business. I think they could still pull it off.

beerman

13-04-2009 15:57:22

[quote5c403912ee="debo012004"]If you read the court documents for clickbooth ARG only owes them 740,000 plus interest so it seems as though they have been paying them something.[/quote5c403912ee]

good point, they are settling $3.1 million in invoices for only $740,000ish, that was nice of clickbooth.... that's a good deal...

ploppsdman

13-04-2009 16:02:09

Forget this. We're getting absolutely nothing. This has been a game all along and the score is becoming clearer and clearer.

orangejuice

13-04-2009 16:06:40

i agree. move along people.

debo012004

13-04-2009 16:14:19

[quote1726a57d33="beerman"][quote1726a57d33="debo012004"]If you read the court documents for clickbooth ARG only owes them 740,000 plus interest so it seems as though they have been paying them something.[/quote1726a57d33]

good point, they are settling $3.1 million in invoices for only $740,000ish, that was nice of clickbooth.... that's a good deal...[/quote1726a57d33]
Not really ARG only owed them 760,000 to begin with they only referenced those amounts from each month because ARG was late paying them so they charged them 10 percent interest each month they were late. Not trying to argue or anything but i doubt any company would take a settlement that low out of three million owed that would be like us taking that 20 percent they were offering up before.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 16:15:45

dont tell us what we can and cant talk about, and its ironic for someone who's temporarily banned to tell [ua39ab81789]us[/ua39ab81789] to move along. this is an interesting topic of conversation so stfu. go drown in your pool of sadness but youre not dragging us down with you. i learned stuff today.

cool info debo.

SkatingCrippled

13-04-2009 16:16:02

[quotec307b6cf0e="neverendingmoolah"][quotec307b6cf0e="SkatingCrippled"][quotec307b6cf0e="neverendingmoolah"][quotec307b6cf0e="kinneylamb"]wow even i know what clickbooth is, its the website that some offers use to host their signup pages.

even so, arg is a business. and they still went through all they went through to update the terms and process all these accounts, when they could simply drop us and run off. helping us is either the result of neglect of an entire company's operations, or they have some backhanded plan to keep it all going somehow.[/quotec307b6cf0e]


CX Media was awarded a judgment against them March12, 2009. Eventually Clickbooth will receive their judgment, which places us at the bottom of the food chain. If ARG is smart, they will pay their end users. That is the only way they will continue to generate new business and ultimately more funds. Otherwise they are toast. If they pay us, word will spread on the forums, and more people will do more offers, and they will generate an evern greater cash flow, because consumer confidence will grow. If they continue with the status quo, they will loose business and will not recover. The legal fees alone will cost them a small fortune.[/quotec307b6cf0e]

They don't make money from us (DIYers). They lose a lot from the people who actually know what they're doing. They make their money when someone signs up, inputs their email, and completes an offer or two then quits.[/quotec307b6cf0e]

Depends on where they are in getting paid from the advertisers. Some of these offers pay as much as $100 per completion. Not to mention any residual sales. At the current rate, they are paying $50 to $60 per offer to the end user. (i.e, 8 offers for a $500 payout). Therefore, they pocket at least $40 per offer (maybe more even). If you have ever had an affiliate marketing account you pretty much know what these guys make. ARG was doing their own publishing CS Media and Clickbooth are considered publishers, and ARG was paying them so, from the looks of things, ARG is paid quite a bit per completed offer, because they had to make enough to pay clickbooth, cs media at least up to the point that the lawsuit was filed. To the contrary, they really do make money from us DIYers per completed offer or not.[/quotec307b6cf0e]

You're 100% right about some offers paying 100/completion; but the majority of ARG's offers do not have that kind of payout. For example, here are some of ARG's popular offers and average payouts

Columbia House- $17-$30
Easy Grant Finder, Grant Resource, etc, etc- $15-$28
Netflix- $22-30
VideoProfessor (Incent)- $30-$55
Blockbuster- $20-$35
VistaPrint- $4-$7
Emusic- $8-$13
EZ Google- $22


Those are just some of the basic and more popular offers that people do, and not many of them top $40. Now again, ARG could be receiving a little bit more from the fact that they don't go through a 3rd party affiliate network, but the fact remains that they don't make much if you actually complete the site.

Especially with the sites that were 3 offer/$500, 4 offer/$1000, etc.

I mean, there are a few offers that pay $100; but let's be honest here, OODs are almost never required on an ARG site.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 16:17:46

is that a blanket statement payout tho? its my understanding that one can negotiate a higher rate depending on the traffic you get and how good a company you are.

ghounds07

13-04-2009 16:24:49

Yeah those numbers are way off.

Since ARG drives thousands of new leads to those companies they make much more per offer. They should be making like $40-$50 on most of those. Video Professor would be more like $60-$70

orangejuice

13-04-2009 16:27:03

Those companies hate leads like us. they know they are BS leads...incent leads are the worst traffic any company could possibly get. but they make millions so the extra 50k a year spent on the bogus leads doesn't affect them much

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 16:28:11

This is what the affiliate marketers make, and what they are paying us (the end user). ARG is the actual publisher, paid directly from the advertising company. The stragegy there is they ("advertiser) will save tens of thousands, if not millions in advertising costs per year. Where they once paid about $1000 per sale, they are paying 1/10 of that cost. The advertiser has substantial budget for advertising each year, and the freebie market is extremely enticing to them because they do save money on the per sales ratio. But where they once had to pay thousands per sale they are now paying hundreds, (offer completion, and residuals) because now they actually do require that you maintain the product for 30, 60 to 90 days, and that is residual income as well. Which translates to mean that ARG is paid quite a bit per offer completion. Not the $17 to $30 range.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 16:28:48

i saw something on the news today, netflix has 10 million subscribers! thats huge! i wonder how many of that is us, lol

brandarama and incentive leads are only bs leads if 1) you're cancel-happy and 2) your product sucks. i get the impression people like to keep the offers that dont rip you off or are poor products, of which there are so many across these sites.

ghounds07

13-04-2009 16:33:51

[quote361530d175="neverendingmoolah"]This is what the affiliate marketers make, and what they are paying us (the end user). ARG is the actual publisher, paid directly from the advertising company. The stragegy there is they ("advertiser) will save tens of thousands, if not millions in advertising costs per year. Where they once paid about $1000 per sale, they are paying 1/10 of that cost. The advertiser has substantial budget for advertising each year, and the freebie market is extremely enticing to them because they do save money on the per sales ratio. But where they once had to pay thousands per sale they are now paying hundreds, (offer completion, and residuals) because now they actually do require that you maintain the product for 30, 60 to 90 days, and that is residual income as well. Which translates to mean that ARG is paid quite a bit per offer completion. Not the $17 to $30 range.[/quote361530d175]

What? where are you getting numbers of "$1000 per sale". It would take a Netflix customer over 10 years to make a sale worth it to them with that mindset...The only strategy here is the dollar value of each customer that signs up for these services. After the companies figure out that value they can then determine how much they want to pay companies to secure these leads.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 16:39:02

[quote5d9c17db16="ghounds07"][quote5d9c17db16="neverendingmoolah"]This is what the affiliate marketers make, and what they are paying us (the end user). ARG is the actual publisher, paid directly from the advertising company. The stragegy there is they ("advertiser) will save tens of thousands, if not millions in advertising costs per year. Where they once paid about $1000 per sale, they are paying 1/10 of that cost. The advertiser has substantial budget for advertising each year, and the freebie market is extremely enticing to them because they do save money on the per sales ratio. But where they once had to pay thousands per sale they are now paying hundreds, (offer completion, and residuals) because now they actually do require that you maintain the product for 30, 60 to 90 days, and that is residual income as well. Which translates to mean that ARG is paid quite a bit per offer completion. Not the $17 to $30 range.[/quote5d9c17db16]

What? where are you getting numbers of "$1000 per sale". It would take a Netflix customer over 10 years to make a sale worth it to them with that mindset...The only strategy here is the dollar value of each customer that signs up for these services. After the companies figure out that value they can then determine how much they want to pay companies to secure these leads.[/quote5d9c17db16]

The history of IFW marketing. The reason why it was sold to the advertisers is because before IFW came into existence they (advertisers) literally paid around $1k per completed sale, with the advertising budgets they used. That is the reason why the publishers were able to convince so many to join the AM strategy. The advertising budgets were greatly reduced due to the incentivized freebie websites. You can research some facts on google.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 16:44:25

right well that makes sense kinda based on the fact that one had to work harder to gain a lead back then. but 1k? still sounds like a lot. but whatever, apparently it worked as a business model even tho it makes no sense to me.

ah not to mention, the customer value was probably higher because it wasn't incentivized. but today, if it's not incentivized, nobody's gonna buy it unless they truly need it. a guy from mpell wrote an article, or was quoted in an article, of how marketing has been perfected to a point of convincing the customer, and also a majority of % of products are incentivized in some shape or form, to keep up with competition etc.

ghounds07

13-04-2009 16:45:12

[quotef966d55deb="neverendingmoolah"][quotef966d55deb="ghounds07"][quotef966d55deb="neverendingmoolah"]This is what the affiliate marketers make, and what they are paying us (the end user). ARG is the actual publisher, paid directly from the advertising company. The stragegy there is they ("advertiser) will save tens of thousands, if not millions in advertising costs per year. Where they once paid about $1000 per sale, they are paying 1/10 of that cost. The advertiser has substantial budget for advertising each year, and the freebie market is extremely enticing to them because they do save money on the per sales ratio. But where they once had to pay thousands per sale they are now paying hundreds, (offer completion, and residuals) because now they actually do require that you maintain the product for 30, 60 to 90 days, and that is residual income as well. Which translates to mean that ARG is paid quite a bit per offer completion. Not the $17 to $30 range.[/quotef966d55deb]

What? where are you getting numbers of "$1000 per sale". It would take a Netflix customer over 10 years to make a sale worth it to them with that mindset...The only strategy here is the dollar value of each customer that signs up for these services. After the companies figure out that value they can then determine how much they want to pay companies to secure these leads.[/quotef966d55deb]

The history of IFW marketing. The reason why it was sold to the advertisers is because before IFW came into existence they (advertisers) literally paid around $1k per completed sale, with the advertising budgets they used. That is the reason why the publishers were able to convince so many to join the AM strategy. The advertising budgets were greatly reduced due to the incentivized freebie websites. You can research some facts on google.[/quotef966d55deb]

Umm maybe you meant "cost per thousand" because I doubt companies used to pay that much since that would make them lose a lot of money. I tried googling facts but nothing came up (

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 16:46:14

no he's right, read what i said above, i think i get it

ghounds07

13-04-2009 16:48:40

what? okay so netflix is $9 a month, please let me know how even non-incentivized customers would be worth $1,000.

Or other offers charge like $30 a month, that is still [bd19e534c64]3 years[/bd19e534c64] to be profitable if it cost $1,000 per sale.

Still seem worthwhile?

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 16:51:38

before the internet my friend. people were less frantic and incentive minded and actually bought stuff they were interested in. so if they signed up to lets say a netflix catalog if there was one, through someone who generated their lead, they'd probably remain a customer because they were interested, unbeknownst to them they were a lead for somebody and didn't receive a sega saturn because of it.
the 1k business model still doesnt make sense even with a higher customer value, but the entire business model seems to have been different back then.
correct me if im wrong.. waiting for neverendingmoolah to come back and comment
lol this convo is so much nicer when you get my mind off of brand/mpell for 5 minutes.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 16:55:31

[quotea4b7cdd73c="ghounds07"][quotea4b7cdd73c="neverendingmoolah"][quotea4b7cdd73c="ghounds07"][quotea4b7cdd73c="neverendingmoolah"]This is what the affiliate marketers make, and what they are paying us (the end user). ARG is the actual publisher, paid directly from the advertising company. The stragegy there is they ("advertiser) will save tens of thousands, if not millions in advertising costs per year. Where they once paid about $1000 per sale, they are paying 1/10 of that cost. The advertiser has substantial budget for advertising each year, and the freebie market is extremely enticing to them because they do save money on the per sales ratio. But where they once had to pay thousands per sale they are now paying hundreds, (offer completion, and residuals) because now they actually do require that you maintain the product for 30, 60 to 90 days, and that is residual income as well. Which translates to mean that ARG is paid quite a bit per offer completion. Not the $17 to $30 range.[/quotea4b7cdd73c]

What? where are you getting numbers of "$1000 per sale". It would take a Netflix customer over 10 years to make a sale worth it to them with that mindset...The only strategy here is the dollar value of each customer that signs up for these services. After the companies figure out that value they can then determine how much they want to pay companies to secure these leads.[/quotea4b7cdd73c]

The history of IFW marketing. The reason why it was sold to the advertisers is because before IFW came into existence they (advertisers) literally paid around $1k per completed sale, with the advertising budgets they used. That is the reason why the publishers were able to convince so many to join the AM strategy. The advertising budgets were greatly reduced due to the incentivized freebie websites. You can research some facts on google.[/quotea4b7cdd73c]

Umm maybe you meant "cost per thousand" because I doubt companies used to pay that much since that would make them lose a lot of money. I tried googling facts but nothing came up ([/quotea4b7cdd73c]

Exactly, they were actually loosing money but many of the big companies, had enormous advertising budgets. They still made money on the products, because they picked up business in other means, but tracking the sales they were actually generating from the advertising costs, the ratio was extremely high. Particularly online. Ergo, affiliate marketing. Many of the big fortune 500 companies joined because the cost ratio per sale was a lot better than what they were getting, and typically was a win-win situation for everyone The advertiser gets new sales, the publisher receives commissions and the end user gets the products they want. The only problem was that they did not factor in the incentivized driven sales factor, which affected the bottom line. However, most companies have now remedied this by DQ'n for early cancellations.

I read an article published in business week magazine several years ago on this. I will see if it is still available online, if so I will post the link.

hawke12

13-04-2009 16:58:05

I can see there's some people that need to learn a little about Marketing and CPA/CPL.

kinneylamb

13-04-2009 16:58:20

yeah but now there's also these companies that came out of the blue, that use the incentive marketing as their means of advertising their product, otherwise they wouldnt be able to advertise or exist in the first place. and their products' prices are so high b/c their main intent is to make a huge profit b/c nobody would pay for a trial and $80 per month membership unless they were getting an xbox out of it. in a word, opportunistic.

edit i dont need to learn anything. thats not my major, thats not my degree, thats not my interest, thank you. if you have something to add then add it, rather than make a snide comment with your gun devil icon.

neverendingmoolah

13-04-2009 16:58:34

[quote40d9db62f2="kinneylamb"]no he's right, read what i said above, i think i get it[/quote40d9db62f2]

Correction. I am female. Thank you!!!

orangejuice

13-04-2009 16:58:52

I was making $4000 / mo with Commission Junction and another 4k+ with Hydra for the longest time, how about you kinney..hehe

hum1m9e8r8b

13-04-2009 17:08:39

[quotec508096702="kinneylamb"]yeah but now there's also these companies that came out of the blue, that use the incentive marketing as their means of advertising their product, otherwise they wouldnt be able to advertise or exist in the first place. and their products' prices are so high b/c their main intent is to make a huge profit b/c nobody would pay for a trial and $80 per month membership unless they were getting an xbox out of it. in a word, opportunistic.

edit i dont need to learn anything. thats not my major, thats not my degree, thats not my interest, thank you. if you have something to add then add it, rather than make a snide comment with your gun devil icon.[/quotec508096702]
I think his sig is supposed to be hellboy.

dubbin87

13-04-2009 18:00:54

[quotefef3ee9382="hum1m9e8r8b"][quotefef3ee9382="kinneylamb"]yeah but now there's also these companies that came out of the blue, that use the incentive marketing as their means of advertising their product, otherwise they wouldnt be able to advertise or exist in the first place. and their products' prices are so high b/c their main intent is to make a huge profit b/c nobody would pay for a trial and $80 per month membership unless they were getting an xbox out of it. in a word, opportunistic.

edit i dont need to learn anything. thats not my major, thats not my degree, thats not my interest, thank you. if you have something to add then add it, rather than make a snide comment with your gun devil icon.[/quotefef3ee9382]
I think his sig is supposed to be hellboy.[/quotefef3ee9382]

It's already been stated that kinny is pretty clueless when it comes to images.. lol

mistertomlinson

13-04-2009 18:14:07

I like pictures.

hawke12

13-04-2009 18:30:00

[quote6516eacd84="kinneylamb"]if you have something to add then add it, rather than make a snide comment with your gun devil icon.[/quote6516eacd84]

My Post was what I wanted to add, Thank You. )

oleus

14-04-2009 08:11:55

i think i'm going to call Mpell later this afternoon and, if i can, talk to a supervisor.

i'm curious to see if they are still expecting their ARG funds release to happen by the end of next week (i think it was friday they started the whole "within 2 weeks" line).

I also want them to know that ARG is now telling people who sent in the 8-10 week "go buy stuff" certificates that there are heavy delays now, and that they can't confirm for anyone how much they're getting outside of status pages where offers mysteriously disappear for many, but primarily I want to know who came up with the 8-10 week number and whether or not they will officially acknowledge that this number is no longer even close if ARG's recent cryptic email responses are any indicator.

i was going to wait until may 1, but then i remembered last night that back in October 2007 i was told 4-6 weeks for delivery. 80 weeks later i think we deserve better answers than what we've been getting over the past few weeks.

RolltheStampede

14-04-2009 08:23:49

So after not reading this thread for a week the only useful info was pretty much that people audited for multiple emails were takne out of audit.

Good to know, ill catch back up in another week

zr2152

14-04-2009 08:29:20

[quote2e60cbafe9="RolltheStampede"]So after not reading this thread for a week the only useful info was pretty much that people audited for multiple emails were takne out of audit.

Good to know, ill catch back up in another week[/quote2e60cbafe9]

and the lawsuits that ARG has responded to.

ohboyitsryan

14-04-2009 10:03:56

so after my weekly status checks with sherry at brandarama, she told me this morning that she was informed that statuses would begin going shipped this week. I hate to get everyone riled up, especially with Brandarama's track record, but I felt the need to give you the most current info I received. take it for what it is, and keep checking your status pages this week. in theory we only need one person to go shipped before we can all let out a collective sigh of relief.

PS600REVX

14-04-2009 10:12:12

[quotef00f527b23="ohboyitsryan"]so after my weekly status checks with sherry at brandarama, she told me this morning that she was informed that statuses would begin going shipped this week. I hate to get everyone riled up, especially with Brandarama's track record, but I felt the need to give you the most current info I received. take it for what it is, and keep checking your status pages this week. in theory we only need one person to go shipped before we can all let out a collective sigh of relief.[/quotef00f527b23]

By e-mail or phone? And has anyone who received that 2nd, "you have 5 days to respond" audit letter been replied to yet?

ohboyitsryan

14-04-2009 10:17:30

[quote624fd98368="PS600REVX"][quote624fd98368="ohboyitsryan"]so after my weekly status checks with sherry at brandarama, she told me this morning that she was informed that statuses would begin going shipped this week. I hate to get everyone riled up, especially with Brandarama's track record, but I felt the need to give you the most current info I received. take it for what it is, and keep checking your status pages this week. in theory we only need one person to go shipped before we can all let out a collective sigh of relief.[/quote624fd98368]

By e-mail or phone? And has anyone who
received that 2nd, "you have 5 days to respond" audit letter been replied to yet?
[/quote624fd98368]

by phone. less credible, I know, but I prefer to speak with someone voice to voice.

oleus

14-04-2009 10:19:40

[quoteda1778298a="ohboyitsryan"]so after my weekly status checks with sherry at brandarama, she told me this morning that she was informed that statuses would begin going shipped this week. I hate to get everyone riled up, especially with Brandarama's track record, but I felt the need to give you the most current info I received. take it for what it is, and keep checking your status pages this week. in theory we only need one person to go shipped before we can all let out a collective sigh of relief.[/quoteda1778298a]

wow thanks for the info. we are a small sample size, so as long as someone here goes shipped soon that would be great news.

ohboyitsryan

14-04-2009 10:24:22

yeah np...I'm going to wait a while before I really start pressing mpell for some answers. I want them to be more aggressive with this issue, if for any reason, for their reputation as a trusted and accredited business.

JANGALANG32

14-04-2009 10:30:18

anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).

hawke12

14-04-2009 10:38:25

[quote620d10e140="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quote620d10e140]

Yeah they're saying you repeated offers, and they want to see your credit card statement's to see if you have kept ALL of the services for that offer.

At least that's what I get out of it...

ohboyitsryan

14-04-2009 10:40:48

[quote379b1bce58="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quote379b1bce58]

ahh. I love the smell of ex post facto in the morning.

JANGALANG32

14-04-2009 10:41:56

[quote1937c75eaa="hawke12"][quote1937c75eaa="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quote1937c75eaa]

Yeah they're saying you repeated offers, and they want to see your credit card statement's to see if you have kept ALL of the services for that offer.

At least that's what I get out of it...[/quote1937c75eaa]

they're seeing if i kept it for how long? the repeats they want me to be a lifetime member?

bruman

14-04-2009 10:42:47

[quotee8839e1808="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quotee8839e1808]

It is pretty broad.. sounds like they just want proof that you didn't abuse the sponsor offers for your personal gain. Or in other words that you didn't just sign up for the X trial offer multiple times just to cancel each time before you were charged in order to fulfill gift requirements. I don't think they are requiring you stayed a member for a specific time frame or anything ridiculous like that.. just as much factual proof as you can that your intent wasn't to fraud/take advantage of the sponsor and the freebie site. I think they had a couple sentences in the T&C about how you must sign up for trial products of interest... signing up for, lets say, the blockbuster offer multiple times, under multiple e-mail addresses for a single charge denotes fraud according to both ARG and the sponsor offer.

neverendingmoolah

14-04-2009 10:45:10

[quotea1a0442255="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

............we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers...... [/quotea1a0442255]

Basically, ARG feels that you are in noncompliance with the termsof the cash back certificate program, and that they are going to DQ you permanently if you can not substantiate why you feel it is/was necessary to repeate sponsor offers in order to meet the requirements. In addition, they want you to provide "proof" via credit card statements that you did not commit offer fraud by cancelling these offers that you repeated. In other words, since you chose to repeat the offers did you also choose to keep them for a certain length of time to prove that you were not just doing offers in order to get a free gift and cancel without trying the product for a substantial length of time? One of the ways that the advertisers determine offer fraud if by cancellation of the product too soon. Since you repeated offers did you at least keep the products for a period of time before cancelling? If so, show proof the offers were paid weekly, monthly by credit card if possible.

PS600REVX

14-04-2009 10:46:20

[quotee4e51f4d46="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quotee4e51f4d46]

I guess that answers my question about anyone receiving a response to the 2nd, "you have 5 days to respond" e-mail. Looks like a final decision saying you are DQ'd to me.

zr2152

14-04-2009 10:46:35

[quote4474d30e9d="ohboyitsryan"][quote4474d30e9d="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quote4474d30e9d]

ahh. I love the smell of ex post facto in the morning.[/quote4474d30e9d]

ex post facto applies to the legal system, not the terms and conditions of a freebie site.

dubbin87

14-04-2009 10:47:26

I do love how they are grabbing at straws trying to get out of paying people after 2 years have gone by.

JANGALANG32

14-04-2009 10:50:07

[quote8048a9f396="neverendingmoolah"][quote8048a9f396="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

............we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers...... [/quote8048a9f396]

Basically, ARG feels that you are in noncompliance with the termsof the cash back certificate program, and that they are going to DQ you permanently if you can not substantiate why you feel it is/was necessary to repeate sponsor offers in order to meet the requirements. In addition, they want you to provide "proof" via credit card statements that you did not commit offer fraud by cancelling these offers that you repeated. In other words, since you chose to repeat the offers did you also choose to keep them for a certain length of time to prove that you were not just doing offers in order to get a free gift and cancel without trying the product for a substantial length of time? One of the ways that the advertisers determine offer fraud if by cancellation of the product too soon. Since you repeated offers did you at least keep the products for a period of time before cancelling? If so, show proof the offers were paid weekly, monthly by credit card if possible.[/quote8048a9f396]

i still have sponsor offers to this day on things i did over a year ago. how is it even possible to prove this on offers i did on 11/17/06!

neverendingmoolah

14-04-2009 10:53:43

[quote73f9bfc492="PS600REVX"]I guess that answers my question about anyone receiving a response to the 2nd, "you have 5 days to respond" e-mail. Looks like a final decision saying you are DQ'd to me.[/quote73f9bfc492]

Yea, I guess they really got him too if he does not have those credit card statements to prove he kept the offers. Since they were not explicit iunder the TOS, they might let him off the hook if he did not cancel repeat offers, multiple times. However, there is really nothing he can say if he cancelled early each time. Res ispa Loquitur...

hawke12

14-04-2009 10:55:54

[quote89cbde6be6="JANGALANG32"][quote89cbde6be6="neverendingmoolah"][quote89cbde6be6="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

............we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers...... [/quote89cbde6be6]

Basically, ARG feels that you are in noncompliance with the termsof the cash back certificate program, and that they are going to DQ you permanently if you can not substantiate why you feel it is/was necessary to repeate sponsor offers in order to meet the requirements. In addition, they want you to provide "proof" via credit card statements that you did not commit offer fraud by cancelling these offers that you repeated. In other words, since you chose to repeat the offers did you also choose to keep them for a certain length of time to prove that you were not just doing offers in order to get a free gift and cancel without trying the product for a substantial length of time? One of the ways that the advertisers determine offer fraud if by cancellation of the product too soon. Since you repeated offers did you at least keep the products for a period of time before cancelling? If so, show proof the offers were paid weekly, monthly by credit card if possible.[/quote89cbde6be6]

i still have sponsor offers to this day on things i did over a year ago. how is it even possible to prove this on offers i did on 11/17/06![/quote89cbde6be6]

Credit card statements, or even a current bill for the service if there is one.

basically, they want stuff that if you don't still have copies of, you would need to request copies from the CC company or Sponsor company, which would take longer than 5 day's to receive, so I think it's basically a way to DQ people wether they were compliant or not.

hawke12

14-04-2009 10:58:48

All they need is ONE reason to question your account/s. Then if your on top of your game and keeping your receipts/CC Statements/paid bill Stubs, ETC...Your screwed. The burden of proof is with you.

neverendingmoolah

14-04-2009 10:58:50

[quoteea7832a893="JANGALANG32"][quoteea7832a893="neverendingmoolah"][quoteea7832a893="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

............we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers...... [/quoteea7832a893]

Basically, ARG feels that you are in noncompliance with the termsof the cash back certificate program, and that they are going to DQ you permanently if you can not substantiate why you feel it is/was necessary to repeate sponsor offers in order to meet the requirements. In addition, they want you to provide "proof" via credit card statements that you did not commit offer fraud by cancelling these offers that you repeated. In other words, since you chose to repeat the offers did you also choose to keep them for a certain length of time to prove that you were not just doing offers in order to get a free gift and cancel without trying the product for a substantial length of time? One of the ways that the advertisers determine offer fraud if by cancellation of the product too soon. Since you repeated offers did you at least keep the products for a period of time before cancelling? If so, show proof the offers were paid weekly, monthly by credit card if possible.[/quoteea7832a893]

i still have sponsor offers to this day on things i did over a year ago. how is it even possible to prove this on offers i did on 11/17/06![/quoteea7832a893]

how did you pay for these? credit card/debit card statements is proof, if you paid monthly. If you are able to pull up the status page for the gifts you are awaiting reimbursement you can see what offers you completed to fulfill the offer requirements. From there see if you can locate payment records. You might be able to pull up a JPG file from your bank online. Bank records are confidential, you know and only you can access this information. Unless of course by subpoena.

JANGALANG32

14-04-2009 11:02:28

[quote1b0581a8aa="neverendingmoolah"][quote1b0581a8aa="JANGALANG32"][quote1b0581a8aa="neverendingmoolah"][quote1b0581a8aa="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

............we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers...... [/quote1b0581a8aa]

Basically, ARG feels that you are in noncompliance with the termsof the cash back certificate program, and that they are going to DQ you permanently if you can not substantiate why you feel it is/was necessary to repeate sponsor offers in order to meet the requirements. In addition, they want you to provide "proof" via credit card statements that you did not commit offer fraud by cancelling these offers that you repeated. In other words, since you chose to repeat the offers did you also choose to keep them for a certain length of time to prove that you were not just doing offers in order to get a free gift and cancel without trying the product for a substantial length of time? One of the ways that the advertisers determine offer fraud if by cancellation of the product too soon. Since you repeated offers did you at least keep the products for a period of time before cancelling? If so, show proof the offers were paid weekly, monthly by credit card if possible.[/quote1b0581a8aa]

i still have sponsor offers to this day on things i did over a year ago. how is it even possible to prove this on offers i did on 11/17/06![/quote1b0581a8aa]

how did you pay for these? credit card/debit card statements is proof, if you paid monthly. If you are able to pull up the status page for the gifts you are awaiting reimbursement you can see what offers you completed to fulfill the offer requirements. From there see if you can locate payment records. You might be able to pull up a JPG file from your bank online. Bank records are confidential, you know and only you can access this information. Unless of course by subpoena.[/quote1b0581a8aa]

i can prove some by the current bank statement. but going back to 06' is dumb. yes i have a gift pending from 06'! it still comes down to they are saying i violated the cash back rules. i shouldnt be held under those rules.

this is the 3rd response i got back that had a 5 day response on it.

neverendingmoolah

14-04-2009 11:13:17

[quote15fe859857="JANGALANG32"]
i can prove some by the current bank statement. but going back to 06' is dumb. yes i have a gift pending from 06'! it still comes down to they are saying i violated the cash back rules. i shouldnt be held under those rules.

this is the 3rd response i got back that had a 5 day response on it.[/quote15fe859857]

I think there's a difference in being under compliance with their new TOS, and NOT cancelling offers you repeated each time. The rule has always been that you had to ONLY buy products that you had an interest in and that therefore the advetisers would gain a new customer. Not just try the product and cancel before you trial period expired. That has always been a condition of the sales, and you can run into some serious difficulties in getting around it. Try to come up with proof. Get you bank statement online and see if the offers are dated back to '06. If not there are always alternatives.

orangejuice

14-04-2009 11:13:34

i got the same thing. this time, i'm including a picture of the 3 bun and thigh rollers that are sitting in my garage, along with the 3 charges on my cc statement showing they were paid in full and billed $36 a month for 3 months. While i'm at it, i might as well include a picture of my cock and say im going to stuff it up brads wifes ass

dubbin87

14-04-2009 11:16:36

stun rofl

ghounds07

14-04-2009 12:16:39

[quotedb312f0148="orangejuice"]i got the same thing. this time, i'm including a picture of the 3 bun and thigh rollers that are sitting in my garage, along with the 3 charges on my cc statement showing they were paid in full and billed $36 a month for 3 months. While i'm at it, i might as well include a picture of my cock and say im going to stuff it up brads wifes ass[/quotedb312f0148]

LOL

Zags1199

14-04-2009 12:52:26

JANGALANG- If you signed up for offers in 2006, you would have already received your gifts, no? The earliest anyone here is waiting is from mid-to-late 2007.

JANGALANG32

14-04-2009 13:09:32

[quote82fcc74cb1="Zags1199"]JANGALANG- If you signed up for offers in 2006, you would have already received your gifts, no? The earliest anyone here is waiting is from mid-to-late 2007.[/quote82fcc74cb1]

not sure whats going on actually. i have an offer done 11/16/2006 for a gift still confirmed to be shipped. i thought i was only waiting for 2007 gifts too guess not now that i have a spreadsheet of all offers. i never would of know caught this if they didnt make me go back abd prove stuff on my credit card

RolltheStampede

14-04-2009 13:26:57

you prabably got it they just probably did not mark it as shipped.

bayarea05

14-04-2009 13:46:23

wow, another tatic by ARG to not give us what we have been waiting for almost 2 years plus.

JANGALANG32

14-04-2009 14:14:39

no i didnt get it. its a visa good towards a ps3. to avoid confusion its a sponsor offer that was done on 11/16/2006. i dont know when i was confirmed for the gift to be shipped but it cant be too far off that date.

manOFice

14-04-2009 14:15:26

i'm waiting for gifts basically from oct 07

kinneylamb

14-04-2009 14:21:21

[quotec17a2c49ee="ohboyitsryan"]so after my weekly status checks with sherry at brandarama, she told me this morning that she was informed that statuses would begin going shipped this week. I hate to get everyone riled up, especially with Brandarama's track record, but I felt the need to give you the most current info I received. take it for what it is, and keep checking your status pages this week. in theory we only need one person to go shipped before we can all let out a collective sigh of relief.[/quotec17a2c49ee]

i'd agree with you ryan, but in the past, if one person went shipped, it was one person who went shipped. i wont take a sigh of relief until each of us has gone shipped. it should happen given the nature of the mpell funds transfer, but ya know.. it's arg we're dealing with.

and yea i haven't been able to get the same person each time? i wish!! now they dont even respond to my e-mails! and they dont pick up the phone after you press 1. i dont even harass them either. its like once every couple of days for the past week.

btw we are already 2 days into "this week", so they'd better hurry the hell up, this week..

ohboyitsryan

14-04-2009 14:24:19

[quotedfc63a92b2="zr2152"][quotedfc63a92b2="ohboyitsryan"][quotedfc63a92b2="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quotedfc63a92b2]

ahh. I love the smell of ex post facto in the morning.[/quotedfc63a92b2]

ex post facto applies to the legal system, not the terms and conditions of a freebie site.[/quotedfc63a92b2]

the terms on these sites are all legally binding. they come directly from ARGs legal department. enacting a new term or condition and then retroactively binding members who consented to an older set of terms or conditions constitutes as ex post facto.

kinneylamb

14-04-2009 14:25:06

[quote4962455dd4="JANGALANG32"]
i still have sponsor offers to this day on things i did over a year ago. how is it even possible to prove this on offers i did on 11/17/06![/quote4962455dd4]
you can also contact the sponsors by e-mail and ask them for a statement of what you've purchased from them and when. just say its for your records.

neverendingmoolah

14-04-2009 15:31:06

[quotee2be8af693="JANGALANG32"]no i didnt get it. its a visa good towards a ps3. to avoid confusion its a sponsor offer that was done on 11/16/2006. i dont know when i was confirmed for the gift to be shipped but it cant be too far off that date.[/quotee2be8af693]

I am waiting for gifts from 10/07, 11/07, and 01/08. Fortunately, I did a screen shot of all my confirmation emails, and receipts that were paid for these. Since they were slow at crediting, and shipping I kept records of all these just in case they were needed to prove my case for any reason.

The status page will tell you around what time you signed for the site, and when you went CTS. If you can approximate when you first signed for the site, you can review your bank records for any purchases you made during that time to see if they correspond to the spreadsheet they sent you. All you would need is proof of payment showing the date, and time. You may not be able to get this proof from the advertisers because they are not obligated to hold this informaiton for more than 3 years. You can ask them but if they have no records then it would be best to provide whatever proof you can compile from your records.

On a positive note, the good thing is that if the advertiser does not have records, then ARG has nothing to dispute your claims with.

slambam

14-04-2009 17:25:27

[quoted201c3b049="ohboyitsryan"]so after my weekly status checks with sherry at brandarama, she told me this morning that she was informed that statuses would begin going shipped this week. I hate to get everyone riled up, especially with Brandarama's track record, but I felt the need to give you the most current info I received. take it for what it is, and keep checking your status pages this week. in theory we only need one person to go shipped before we can all let out a collective sigh of relief.[/quoted201c3b049]

That is interesting... Makes me wonder about the check being shipped. Mpell says they were going to send checks, so I wonder if this change to shipped will occur when ARG pays mpell? Did she say everyones status will be going to shipped this week, or they'll start with it? Thanks for the info, very interesting.

kinneylamb

14-04-2009 18:19:02

yeah right.. she says statuses would begin going shipped this week, yet, post-approval from mpell, and post-audit, there's no need for staggering at this point.. should be all at once or as fast as they can update each account.

ohboyitsryan

14-04-2009 21:01:55

[quote3d0d63eff6="beerman"]got this yesterday

On Apr 8, 2009, at 626 PM, Sylvia Magana wrote

We are waiting for the transfer of funds from Active Response. They have promised us it would be sent within two weeks. Please feel free to call Active Response 877 312-7263 and get a better update.
Thank you!


Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575[/quote3d0d63eff6]

tomorrow marks one week for the supposed two week window for the wire transfer. i'm pretty sure it doesn't mean much, but maybe mpell will get a little more involved if funds havent been transferred by next wednesday.

orangejuice

15-04-2009 00:56:21

It aint happening bro..

manOFice

15-04-2009 08:48:18

yeah if you weren't audited just wait it out like we have been for years, there's no way you can hold them to their word on deadlines

ohboyitsryan

15-04-2009 09:01:24

yep. it was just food for thought. just going to do some new offers to wrap my mind around something else until this situation sorts itself out...or not.

zr2152

15-04-2009 09:11:49

[quote53b094c6cc="ohboyitsryan"][quote53b094c6cc="zr2152"][quote53b094c6cc="ohboyitsryan"][quote53b094c6cc="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quote53b094c6cc]

ahh. I love the smell of ex post facto in the morning.[/quote53b094c6cc]

ex post facto applies to the legal system, not the terms and conditions of a freebie site.[/quote53b094c6cc]

the terms on these sites are all legally binding. they come directly from ARGs legal department. enacting a new term or condition and then retroactively binding members who consented to an older set of terms or conditions constitutes as ex post facto.[/quote53b094c6cc]

ex post facto law esistes when after and action (indifferent in itself) is committed, the legislator for the first time declares it to have been a CRIME, and inflicts a PUNISHMENT upon the person who committed it.

No crime, no punishment.

EX POST FACTO has nothing to do with the freebie system. Ex Post Facto was designed under English common law and a formidable instrument of tyranny.

Ex post facto law literally includes a law PASSED after the fact, not a rule or requirement.

[b53b094c6cc]The Supreme Court has long recognized that the constitutional prohibition applies only to CRIMINAL STATUTES.[/b53b094c6cc]

dubbin87

15-04-2009 09:19:41

cheer

ohboyitsryan

15-04-2009 09:40:29

[quote1c3ecc5c0b="zr2152"][quote1c3ecc5c0b="ohboyitsryan"][quote1c3ecc5c0b="zr2152"][quote1c3ecc5c0b="ohboyitsryan"][quote1c3ecc5c0b="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quote1c3ecc5c0b]

ahh. I love the smell of ex post facto in the morning.[/quote1c3ecc5c0b]

ex post facto applies to the legal system, not the terms and conditions of a freebie site.[/quote1c3ecc5c0b]

the terms on these sites are all legally binding. they come directly from ARGs legal department. enacting a new term or condition and then retroactively binding members who consented to an older set of terms or conditions constitutes as ex post facto.[/quote1c3ecc5c0b]

ex post facto law esistes when after and action (indifferent in itself) is committed, the legislator for the first time declares it to have been a CRIME, and inflicts a PUNISHMENT upon the person who committed it.

No crime, no punishment.

EX POST FACTO has nothing to do with the freebie system. Ex Post Facto was designed under English common law and a formidable instrument of tyranny.

Ex post facto literally includes a law PASSED after the fact, not a rule or requirement.

[b1c3ecc5c0b]The Supreme Court has long recognized that the constitutional prohibition applies only to CRIMINAL STATUTES.[/b1c3ecc5c0b][/quote1c3ecc5c0b]

yes your definition is correct in terms of it's application to common law, I merely used the term to allude to the retroactivity in the application of a provision, not the law itself. perhaps breach of contract would have been more approriate terminology.

zr2152

15-04-2009 09:47:31

[quote041abb6ae6="ohboyitsryan"][quote041abb6ae6="zr2152"][quote041abb6ae6="ohboyitsryan"][quote041abb6ae6="zr2152"][quote041abb6ae6="ohboyitsryan"][quote041abb6ae6="JANGALANG32"]anyone care to tell me what this means? isnt the cash back certificate program the new mpell way of doing things?

Based upon our review of your explanation as to why these violations have occurred, we have determined that your actions are in violation of the terms of our Cash Back Certificate Program, establish that a disqualification should occur, and constitute an effort on your part to misuse our service and mislead us and our Sponsors for your personal gain.

this is what i dont understand though. can anyone make sense of what is said below?

If you believe that this determination is mistaken or not factually true, please provide us with a detailed factual explanation establishing that your participation in the same Sponsor offer is required to occur multiple times, along with proof in the form of written documentation (that may include written business records, such as copies of credit card statements) establishing that the program requirements have been fulfilled and no disqualifying activity has occurred (such as multiple cancellations of Sponsor offers or other non-compliance with the requirements for each such Sponsor offer).[/quote041abb6ae6]

ahh. I love the smell of ex post facto in the morning.[/quote041abb6ae6]

ex post facto applies to the legal system, not the terms and conditions of a freebie site.[/quote041abb6ae6]

the terms on these sites are all legally binding. they come directly from ARGs legal department. enacting a new term or condition and then retroactively binding members who consented to an older set of terms or conditions constitutes as ex post facto.[/quote041abb6ae6]

ex post facto law esistes when after and action (indifferent in itself) is committed, the legislator for the first time declares it to have been a CRIME, and inflicts a PUNISHMENT upon the person who committed it.

No crime, no punishment.

EX POST FACTO has nothing to do with the freebie system. Ex Post Facto was designed under English common law and a formidable instrument of tyranny.

Ex post facto literally includes a law PASSED after the fact, not a rule or requirement.

[b041abb6ae6]The Supreme Court has long recognized that the constitutional prohibition applies only to CRIMINAL STATUTES.[/b041abb6ae6][/quote041abb6ae6]

yes your definition is correct in terms of it's application to common law, I merely used the term to allude to the retroactivity in the application of a provision, not the law itself. perhaps breach of contract would have been more approriate terminology.[/quote041abb6ae6]

probably..hehe..


its all good )

FreeOffersNow

15-04-2009 10:28:15

<3 copy/paste of legalese from Google searches in hopes of sounding more knowledgeable )

mistertomlinson

15-04-2009 14:22:08

[quotedfd7ef91e0="FreeOffersNow"]<3 copy/paste of legalese from Google searches in hopes of sounding more knowledgeable )[/quotedfd7ef91e0]

Buahahahahahaha

zr2152

15-04-2009 16:33:09

[quote27ac366a6a="FreeOffersNow"]<3 copy/paste of legalese from Google searches in hopes of sounding more knowledgeable )[/quote27ac366a6a]

Actually im taking criminal law and court procedure atm so it was from my notes.

So yes, I am a little bit more knowledgeable right now. I can send u an attached document of my notes if you would like.

<3

mistertomlinson

15-04-2009 17:56:06

[quoted61dee7c13="zr2152"][quoted61dee7c13="FreeOffersNow"]<3 copy/paste of legalese from Google searches in hopes of sounding more knowledgeable )[/quoted61dee7c13]

Actually im taking criminal law and court procedure atm so it was from my notes.

So yes, I am a little bit more knowledgeable right now. I can send u an attached document of my notes if you would like.

<3[/quoted61dee7c13]

I would like 3

FreeOffersNow

15-04-2009 18:55:30

[quote0ae42f4587]In Carpenter, the Court noted that the esteemed legal theorist Sir William Blackstone (1723-80) had described ex post facto in criminal terms. According to Blackstone, [i0ae42f4587]an ex post facto law has been created when, "after an action (indifferent in itself) is committed, the legislature then for the first time declares it to have been a crime, and inflicts punishment upon the person who has committed it[/i0ae42f4587][/color0ae42f4587]," 1 Sir William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England 45-46 (1765). [/quote0ae42f4587]

and

[quote0ae42f4587="zr2152"]ex post facto law esistes when after and action (indifferent in itself) is committed, the legislator for the first time declares it to have been a CRIME, and inflicts a PUNISHMENT upon the person who committed it. [/quote0ae42f4587]


http//www.answers.com/topic/ex-post-facto-law . heh.

ghounds07

15-04-2009 19:49:56

Oh I see, that info can only be found on that page FON? Nice call dude.

P.S....who gives a shit where he got the info.

kinneylamb

15-04-2009 21:07:38

law is pretty straight forward. youre gonna find those same sentences everwhere. anyway, the meaning of ex post facto is true for the t&c situation, its just a matter of which words apply to a contract or t&c.

zr2152

15-04-2009 21:18:07

[quote70b208e2b0="ghounds07"]Oh I see, that info can only be found on that page FON? Nice call dude.

P.S....who gives a shit where he got the info.[/quote70b208e2b0]

It's Fun.

give me your emails.

<3 And of course I got it somewhere. I cannot memorize all that shit anyways.

ohboyitsryan

15-04-2009 21:58:52

ahh eleven weeks.

feels great to still be within the target window for fulfillment...

neverendingmoolah

16-04-2009 10:11:26

Has the status changed to "shipped" for anyone on the forum yet??

ohboyitsryan

16-04-2009 10:24:24

[quoted2ead4cf63="neverendingmoolah"]Has the status changed to "shipped" for anyone on the forum yet??[/quoted2ead4cf63]

haha you would have seen a 10+ page increase at least if someone went shipped.

hawke12

16-04-2009 10:24:40

Nope Not yet for me.

bruman

16-04-2009 10:48:59

Nothing here, either.

I just tried calling them to get an update... pressed 1, was on hold for about 5 minutes till I gave up.

manOFice

16-04-2009 11:18:44

[quoteadb3b837fe="ohboyitsryan"][quoteadb3b837fe="neverendingmoolah"]Has the status changed to "shipped" for anyone on the forum yet??[/quoteadb3b837fe]

haha you would have seen a 10+ page increase at least if someone went shipped.[/quoteadb3b837fe]

Agreed, once people start going shipped you'll know.

neverendingmoolah

16-04-2009 11:58:30

hummmmm, the saga continues....

FreeOffersNow

16-04-2009 11:59:10

[quote959d3c7597="zr2152"][quote959d3c7597="ghounds07"]Oh I see, that info can only be found on that page FON? Nice call dude.

P.S....who gives a shit where he got the info.[/quote959d3c7597]

It's Fun.

give me your emails.

<3 And of course I got it somewhere. I cannot memorize all that shit anyways.[/quote959d3c7597]


It wasn't meant to be a personal shot, or something to be taken to heart...just an observation and a slightly sarcastic post based on that observation.

kinneylamb

16-04-2009 13:21:10

um yea i called yesterday, pressed either number, and was told noone is available to take my call. it was within office hours too.

ILoveToys

16-04-2009 14:50:22

[quote71b6c345d2="kinneylamb"]um yea i called yesterday, pressed either number, and was told noone is available to take my call. it was within office hours too.[/quote71b6c345d2]

I'm pretty sure it's been established a number of time already in the last day or 2 that they have quit answering the phones.

kinneylamb

16-04-2009 15:37:13

i didnt read anything definitive like that. i heard a few people have waited a long time, and the disclaimer message is new about the cashback certificates. but i figured id call myself.

zr2152

16-04-2009 16:27:00

[quote1e95f62d5d="FreeOffersNow"][quote1e95f62d5d="zr2152"][quote1e95f62d5d="ghounds07"]Oh I see, that info can only be found on that page FON? Nice call dude.

P.S....who gives a shit where he got the info.[/quote1e95f62d5d]

It's Fun.

give me your emails.

<3 And of course I got it somewhere. I cannot memorize all that shit anyways.[/quote1e95f62d5d]


It wasn't meant to be a personal shot, or something to be taken to heart...just an observation and a slightly sarcastic post based on that observation.[/quote1e95f62d5d]

I know smile Thats why i put a <3

kinneylamb

16-04-2009 17:40:11

Mpell told me that they were able to get a live person when they called the Brandarama 877 number, and that it may go to voicemail when they are on the phone with someone else. There you go.

kalinkster

16-04-2009 19:24:41

Update again

I finally received the $500 Check from Active Response Group today. The gift was for $500 Best Buy but they sent me the check instead.

The gift was CTS on Dec 26 2007.

Live well,
Kalinkster

bruman

16-04-2009 19:31:28

[quotea2bc52cb6e="ILoveToys"][quotea2bc52cb6e="kinneylamb"]um yea i called yesterday, pressed either number, and was told noone is available to take my call. it was within office hours too.[/quotea2bc52cb6e]

I'm pretty sure it's been established a number of time already in the last day or 2 that they have quit answering the phones.[/quotea2bc52cb6e]

No.. they are still answering them. I ended up calling back today and was on hold for a couple minutes before I was able to talk to someone. They didn't provide any new info.. I asked them if anythings been shipped yet and she said from the mpell batch she didn't think so. She mentioned that some checks went out for people who weren't apart of the reimbursements (evidently people like kalinkster). She also said to keep checking the status as that will indicate it is shipped.

moose_man

16-04-2009 21:36:28

[quoted5799d2be8="kalinkster"]Update again

I finally received the $500 Check from Active Response Group today. The gift was for $500 Best Buy but they sent me the check instead.

The gift was CTS on Dec 26 2007.

Live well,
Kalinkster[/quoted5799d2be8]

You received something?

orangejuice

16-04-2009 22:31:15

they probably wrote it on a cash advance check from a credit card..broke bastards

fbskiracer

17-04-2009 03:19:13

[quotef50136a749="kalinkster"]Update again

I finally received the $500 Check from Active Response Group today. The gift was for $500 Best Buy but they sent me the check instead.

The gift was CTS on Dec 26 2007.

Live well,
Kalinkster[/quotef50136a749]

Proof Pix? ARG sent the check, not Mpell?

manOFice

17-04-2009 05:28:01

[quotec91f8adf38="kalinkster"]Update again

I finally received the $500 Check from Active Response Group today. The gift was for $500 Best Buy but they sent me the check instead.

The gift was CTS on Dec 26 2007.

Live well,
Kalinkster[/quotec91f8adf38]

I take it that this wasn't through mpell...

RolltheStampede

17-04-2009 06:28:01

most likely not through mpell but it probably was one of the staggered check. but i really dont know anything.
SO go ahead inquiring minds want to know.

oleus

17-04-2009 08:21:56

so far doesn't seem like anyone went shipped this week. was foolish for me to get my hopes up.

PS600REVX

17-04-2009 08:26:05

[quotebd015a482c="oleus"]so far doesn't seem like anyone went shipped this week. was foolish for me to get my hopes up.[/quotebd015a482c]

did you ever call MPELL and get a supervisor like you said you were going to do a day or so ago?

ohboyitsryan

17-04-2009 08:30:20

it's still early...but yeah nobody will go shipped haha. another week down and hopefully less than 52 weeks to go.

oleus

17-04-2009 08:44:23

[quote624e8cc2ff="PS600REVX"][quote624e8cc2ff="oleus"]so far doesn't seem like anyone went shipped this week. was foolish for me to get my hopes up.[/quote624e8cc2ff]

did you ever call MPELL and get a supervisor like you said you were going to do a day or so ago?[/quote624e8cc2ff]

no i didn't, it's been a crazy week of baseball games and car repairs. i figure if none of us have heard anything by this time next week, the "two week window" we heard about last friday will be about to expire and I will have more ammo to really push it. at this point though i think almost all of us who sent certificates have passed the 8-10 week mark, and ARG is still dragging their feet (and apparently getting really hard to get in touch with?)

chances are mpell is going to be our only light at the end of the tunnel

manOFice

17-04-2009 08:44:54

[quoteade63014e2="ohboyitsryan"]it's still early...but yeah nobody will go shipped haha. another week down and [bade63014e2]hopefully less than 52 weeks to go[/bade63014e2].[/quoteade63014e2]

lol lol lol lol roll probably more than

neverendingmoolah

17-04-2009 08:45:08

[quote9b307c23c8="kalinkster"]Update again

I finally received the $500 Check from Active Response Group today. The gift was for $500 Best Buy but they sent me the check instead.

The gift was CTS on Dec 26 2007.

Live well,
Kalinkster[/quote9b307c23c8]

Quick question! Did your status change to shipped when the check went out??

kinneylamb

17-04-2009 09:16:17

[quote8065c1c886="oleus"][quote8065c1c886="PS600REVX"][quote8065c1c886="oleus"]so far doesn't seem like anyone went shipped this week. was foolish for me to get my hopes up.[/quote8065c1c886]

did you ever call MPELL and get a supervisor like you said you were going to do a day or so ago?[/quote8065c1c886]

no i didn't, it's been a crazy week of baseball games and car repairs. i figure if none of us have heard anything by this time next week, the "two week window" we heard about last friday will be about to expire and I will have more ammo to really push it. at this point though i think almost all of us who sent certificates have passed the 8-10 week mark, and ARG is still dragging their feet (and apparently getting really hard to get in touch with?)

chances are mpell is going to be our only light at the end of the tunnel[/quote8065c1c886]
the last date mpell could receive certificates was february 26. so i think another week or so for some people.

ploppsdman

17-04-2009 10:48:53

That light at the end of the tunnel is Brad Powers riding a monorail he recently sold to Shelbyville, screaming "Keep on waitin', suckers."

ghounds07

17-04-2009 13:48:24

yeah i emailed him again today...doubt I'll get a response but I just told him to pay Mpell already, so maybe he will...haha

mistertomlinson

17-04-2009 14:06:59

[quote93d3cf5281="ploppsdman"]That light at the end of the tunnel is Brad Powers riding a monorail he recently sold to Shelbyville, screaming "Keep on waitin', suckers."[/quote93d3cf5281]

... and the strangest reference award goes to...



Plopps!

oleus

17-04-2009 14:18:24

same old song and dance from brandarama today

Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Morgan
YourTopBrands Member Support [/color933b937654]

bennyboy5768

17-04-2009 16:29:54

[quote20e7a21adc="ghounds07"]yeah i emailed him again today...doubt I'll get a response but I just told him to pay Mpell already, so maybe he will...haha[/quote20e7a21adc]

Lucky, he still hasn't accepted my friend request lol.

kinneylamb

17-04-2009 16:49:04

well since youre harassing him you should go after his friends to, tell them to pressure him to do the right thing

kalinkster

17-04-2009 18:42:11

[quoteb8616dff9a="neverendingmoolah"][quoteb8616dff9a="kalinkster"]Update again

I finally received the $500 Check from Active Response Group today. The gift was for $500 Best Buy but they sent me the check instead.

The gift was CTS on Dec 26 2007.

Live well,
Kalinkster[/quoteb8616dff9a]

Quick question! Did your status change to shipped when the check went out??[/quoteb8616dff9a]

Yes, the status changed to shipped. )

Live well,
Kalinkster

suburbangirl

17-04-2009 19:13:36

[quote9edac11138="oleus"]same old song and dance from brandarama today

Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Morgan
YourTopBrands Member Support [/color9edac11138][/quote9edac11138]

Yeah, it seems that no matter what you say to them, that's how they respond.

oleus

18-04-2009 08:36:44

i forwarded the latest generic response back to mpell support trying to get a straight answer on timelines/delays, stressing that i would never have gone out and spent a lot of my own money on reimbursement items if i had known the ball would be back in brandarama's court to eventually pay us.


the fact that we can't even get anything close to a timeline on delays is the frustrating part.


mpell sent us these certificates stating payback terms that appear to have gone up in smoke, so even though it's ARG causing the current delays Mpell needs to be an active part of this whether they want to now or not.

fbskiracer

18-04-2009 09:51:04

People need to make sure that they stress when talking to people the (theoretical) INTEREST cost on credit cards of things that they bought.

Its not like they just made us validate things, people had to pre-spend the money in order to get their 'free gift'. Let alone invalidating them AFTER they were told to go spend $$$.

hawke12

18-04-2009 10:45:07

Maybe WE as a community, need to start letting the General Public know about these companies? Maybe if we start putting some pressure on MPell, they might relay that pressure to ARG.

Here's a previous Rip-Off report.

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/419/RipOff0419139.htm

Add to the rebuttals, Simply explaining what is going on with YOU individually.

Do it in a calm, respectable mannor, no Harsh or bad language. Plus this can be DONE Anonymously.

You be surprised what a company will do to stay out of the negative SPOTLIGHT, so to speak. Hell perhaps they'll just pay us what were owed. and SUE ARG themselves.


We need to stick together, as a community and not let this Company (ARG) take advantage anymore, unfortunately MPell, while not completely at fault for ARG's screw up's, they are however involved, and made a Promise to us when they sent the certificates.

ploppsdman

18-04-2009 11:03:30

Mpell is going to get my complaint if things don't ship by May 1st, and their analogy used in that rip-off report isn't applicable. UPS doesn't send me a letter saying if I follow the redemption rules I'll get my package. The USPS does not do that either. This is why none of us are complaining to these mail carriers. Exactly what role does Mpell play? Accomplice.

They can't hide behind their bs forms. If they know ARG is misrepresenting themselves, it is their responsibility to let us know. They have failed in that duty, and they are therefore open to all complaints.

So May 1st is my day to send complaints to the BBB and rip-off report if my check isn't cashed in my bank (which it won't be). If Mpell has any wish to maintain their reputation, they had better come clean now. They have our email addresses, and I'm sure, unless they are completely stupid, they know about forums like these. If they don't tell us the truth, they are hardly different than ARG.

hawke12

18-04-2009 11:08:20

Guilty by Association IMO...

ploppsdman

18-04-2009 11:14:37

[quoted0351c3173="hawke12"]Guilty by Association IMO...[/quoted0351c3173]

No. That would mean that mpell has no active role. They most certainly do. If ARG is acting in a manner that is unlike their other relationships, that is a problem that we should be told about instead of them just washing their hands of us. That behavior is not in keep with a well rated company, and as such, their rating should and will take a hit.

hawke12

18-04-2009 11:16:40

Hell, I've been using that term forever in the wrong manner, lol.

I agree they should take responsibility.

oleus

18-04-2009 11:44:00

i'm adding a calm response on ripoffreport about what is happening right now. the fact that mpell went from responsive to merely fowarding all correspondence to mpell is very troubling.

orangejuice

18-04-2009 11:57:11

i think going to them in person maybe packing would clear things up

hawke12

18-04-2009 11:59:10

[quote2f8a9c98b0="orangejuice"]i think going to them in person maybe packing would clear things up[/quote2f8a9c98b0]

I'll keep an eye on CNN for breaking news, about a crazed freebier that took out ARG Headquarters....

oleus

18-04-2009 12:04:34

posts like the one two above this should be deleted..not useful

bruman

18-04-2009 12:14:46

^ and so you quote it, haha

But yeah, I agree mpell should definitely at the very least get some real information from ARG. Right now it seems we're left in the dark with generic CS responses that tell us very little about what's going on.

And FYI they are still picking up their phones. I called them on Friday and they picked up right away. Said they are still waiting for ARG to release the funds.

oleus

18-04-2009 12:20:24

[quote86ca78bbf8="bruman"]^ and so you quote it, haha

But yeah, I agree mpell should definitely at the very least get some real information from ARG. Right now it seems we're left in the dark with generic CS responses that tell us very little about what's going on.

And FYI they are still picking up their phones. I called them on Friday and they picked up right away. Said they are still waiting for ARG to release the funds.[/quote86ca78bbf8]

LOL good point, see above, post edited.

kinneylamb

18-04-2009 20:54:15

everybody calm down. dont forget these upcoming weeks are the 9th and 10th week since the last date of certificate reception february 26th. may 1 sounds like an appropriate time to complain like this, but not now. plus someone was told several weeks back, by mpell, that reimbursement would begin (funds received from ARG) on or around april 17. it was after that, that mpell gave the "within these 2 weeks" response. so everythings consistent so far. i know emotions are running high, but give it time.

wozniack

18-04-2009 21:05:42

[quote931e621218="hawke12"][quote931e621218="orangejuice"]i think going to them in person maybe packing would clear things up[/quote931e621218]

I'll keep an eye on CNN for breaking news, about a crazed freebier that took out ARG Headquarters....[/quote931e621218]
hey Hawke, long time no see. P

edgespeeder04

18-04-2009 21:49:45

Looks like we are fucked either way now. Feel sorry for anyone who went out and spent lots of money for the cash back, i just returned my stuff or bought visas to use for gas

I do not know when the reimbursements are going out. To date, we are waiting for Active Response to transfer funds as promised but we are also aware that some people that have contacted Active Response have been reimbursed directly by them.

We have been asked by Active Response to have all questions and concerns regarding this matter directed to their customer service line which is 877 312-7263. Active Response is ready and waiting to answer all your questions. I had a live person answer but I'm sure that you may also get voicemail when they're talking to someone else.

Thank you!



Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575

ghounds07

19-04-2009 00:07:29

Fuck ARG.

orangejuice

19-04-2009 00:11:36

Im going to file 3 or 4 ripoffreport complaints, bbb complaints, as well as send 500 pages of full page black to their fax machines twice a week. if we cant get any money out of them, the least we can do is drain a few $85 toners.

kinneylamb

19-04-2009 00:27:38

i got the same exact answer.

oleus

19-04-2009 09:34:15

that ripoff report thread seems like it just went way off the rails. posts trying to link mpell/arg to terrorism are going to weaken the "real" posts by association!!!!!!

hawke12

19-04-2009 09:48:19

[quote1d9f51ac55="wozniack"][quote1d9f51ac55="hawke12"][quote1d9f51ac55="orangejuice"]i think going to them in person maybe packing would clear things up[/quote1d9f51ac55]

I'll keep an eye on CNN for breaking news, about a crazed freebier that took out ARG Headquarters....[/quote1d9f51ac55]
hey Hawke, long time no see. P[/quote1d9f51ac55]

Waz up Woz Yeah it's been a while )

slambam

19-04-2009 12:28:01

I found the e-mail for a person who is on the Board of Directors for ARG. Think he deserves an e-mail?

oleus

19-04-2009 12:36:28

[quoteb51dbd3626="slambam"]I found the e-mail for a person who is on the Board of Directors for ARG. Think he deserves an e-mail?[/quoteb51dbd3626]

well if they seemed like a company that gave a crap, maybe. so the answer is no.

best thing to do right now i think would be to contribute to that ripoffreport thread. the fact that Mpell responded early on means they might actually be reading that and more testimonials about exactly what is happening might be the most productive route right now.

i just wish the ripoffreport people hadn't approved the most recent message, linking brandarama to terrorists. we don't want people to start thinking the problems are just some silly conspiracy theory!!

dubbin87

19-04-2009 12:56:36

[quotef8bddfbcda="orangejuice"]Im going to file 3 or 4 ripoffreport complaints, bbb complaints, as well as send 500 pages of full page black to their fax machines twice a week. if we cant get any money out of them, the least we can do is drain a few $85 toners.[/quotef8bddfbcda]

Make a complaint for each gift, I'm sure they'll love replying to 40 or so reports. lol

oleus

19-04-2009 13:05:40

at this point it wouldn't surprise me if Mpell changes their name.

my guess is that they know arg doesn't have the money to pay us, and are like little kids hoping they don't get caught for helping the neighbor kid steal someone's bike.

manOFice

19-04-2009 16:18:56

I"m sure mpell wants to get paid for their services as well, I don't think mpell will just stay quite with all this. Now ARG has us and mpell pissed off

oleus

19-04-2009 18:16:33

[quotee9029bc828="manOFice"]I"m sure mpell wants to get paid for their services as well, I don't think mpell will just stay quite with all this. Now ARG has us and mpell pissed off[/quotee9029bc828]

i'm just worried that mpell getting paid and us getting paid may have nothing to do with each other.

ghounds07

19-04-2009 18:21:31

[quoteb00c998c7b="oleus"][quoteb00c998c7b="manOFice"]I"m sure mpell wants to get paid for their services as well, I don't think mpell will just stay quite with all this. Now ARG has us and mpell pissed off[/quoteb00c998c7b]

i'm just worried that mpell getting paid and us getting paid may have nothing to do with each other.[/quoteb00c998c7b]

Yeah they do...since both will never happen D

dmorris68

19-04-2009 19:09:29

[quote212e3375c0="slambam"]I found the e-mail for a person who is on the Board of Directors for ARG. Think he deserves an e-mail?[/quote212e3375c0]
The BoD of most large, publicly traded companies like ARG have little to no influence over the day-to-day operations of the company, particularly as pertains to things like customer service. They'd be more interested in, say, evidence of accounting fraud since SOX holds them accountable for that, or if a group of shareholders had a specific complaint (since they answer to the shareholders).

Most are usually not even employees of the company, and other than perhaps the chairperson (if he/she is also CEO/COO) they often aren't in the company's management chain of command either. Pretty sure they would not be interested in nor take notice of individual complaints like this coming from a non-stockholder. Now if it were somebody you knew personally, then they might be able to get word to somebody in a position to address it, but I'm pretty certain that e-mailing some random BoD member isn't going to get much done. You'd be better off contacting the CEO's office, and that contact info should be easy to come by for any publicly traded company.

skooter22c

19-04-2009 19:27:12

SO when did people start getting DQ letters from Brandarama? I don't think I received a letter and my account is still in good standing? I also only did one of their sites, so there would really be no occurrence of duplicate offers.

orangejuice

19-04-2009 20:15:02

i dont think it matters if you received a letter or not anymore.

Also i dont think ARG is a public company. i can't really give a shit to look

kinneylamb

19-04-2009 21:36:12

what do you mean? it matters to those who did receive it.

i think ARG is private but it doesn't matter much to us, they are out in the open to receive ammo unless they provide their users the gifts. they have accepted a loan from a public company and attempted to merge with a public company.

jasonatsmtc

20-04-2009 07:48:08

Chief Operating Officer - Kim Smith
+1.646.356.8154
email==ksmith@activeresponsegroup.comksmith@activeresponsegroup.com=ksmith@activeresponsegroup.comksmith@activeresponsegroup.com/email

jasonatsmtc

20-04-2009 07:51:15

Brad Powers
Chief Executive Officer
+1.646.356.8179
email==brad@activeresponsegroup.combrad@activeresponsegroup.com=brad@activeresponsegroup.combrad@activeresponsegroup.com/email

(got a live person on this one)

RolltheStampede

20-04-2009 07:54:25

What was wrong with the terrorist report.
Brad Powers is odviously a super villian.
Look at the name Brad [b0f55a40a46]POWERS[/b0f55a40a46]

Brad Powers liAKAli Cobra Commander
http//images4.wikia.nocookie.net/gijoe/images/thumb/1/14/Cobra_Commander_colors.jpg/275px-Cobra_Commander_colors.jpg[" alt=""/img0f55a40a46]



[img="0f55a40a46]http//i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd243/cyberlink420/Motivational%20Posters/CobraCommander.jpg[" alt=""/img0f55a40a46]

nousername

20-04-2009 08:08:01

[quote7853c1c0c0="jasonatsmtc"]Chief Operating Officer - Kim Smith
+1.646.356.8154
email==ksmith@activeresponsegroup.comksmith@activeresponsegroup.com=ksmith@activeresponsegroup.comksmith@activeresponsegroup.com/email[/quote7853c1c0c0]

I think Kim Smith quit ARG in August 2008.
http//www.linkedin.com/pub/0/3b9/006[]http//www.linkedin.com/pub/0/3b9/006

neverendingmoolah

20-04-2009 08:28:02

[quote353308cbf4="RolltheStampede"]What was wrong with the terrorist report.
Brad Powers is odviously a super villian.
Look at the name Brad [b353308cbf4]POWERS[/b353308cbf4]

Brad Powers liAKAli Cobra Commander
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What? Terrorist Report? RTS was that you??? Superb....
LOL

walrus9

20-04-2009 09:12:14

Called Brandarama today. Same news as usual, staggering checks, blah, blah, blah.

oleus

20-04-2009 09:15:33

[quote492993ff33="walrus9"]Called Brandarama today. Same news as usual, staggering checks, blah, blah, blah.[/quote492993ff33]

i'll start believing the "staggering checks" whenever the first batch actually starts going out.

Spinxter

20-04-2009 09:18:23

Thank you for contacting us.

The corporate office has said that they are staggering the checks and when yours is mailed it will update you your status page on the Brandarama site.

ohboyitsryan

20-04-2009 09:20:16

they are staggering checks, just not mpell checks...

oleus

20-04-2009 09:24:17

staggering would be fine if we were given ANY sort of timeframe for how long the process would take. going from "8-10 weeks" to a completely open-ended description of "we are sending them out staggered" could mean one month or two years at this point.

i don't care what they say about staggering, Mpell still needs to be held accountable for sending us approved certficates telling us to go buy stuff with our own money in order to get reimbursed.

orangejuice

20-04-2009 09:25:04

anybody packin in here?

PS600REVX

20-04-2009 09:37:08

problem with that "Ripoff Report" listed a few posts back is that the name Active Response Group is not mentioned in the heading, therefore it doesn't come up when you search Active Response Group. If someone starts a new one with Active Response Group mentioned please post it. I may do it tomorrow if and when I have time and will post it at that time.

hawke12

20-04-2009 09:37:09

"The check is in the mail" ....Yup, I've heard that before, lol.

bruman

20-04-2009 09:44:33

[quotec9180136d0="hawke12"]"The check is in the mail" ....Yup, I've heard that before, lol.[/quotec9180136d0]

Where did you see someone say that?

hawke12

20-04-2009 10:06:42

[quote329fc7692e="bruman"][quote329fc7692e="hawke12"]"The check is in the mail" ....Yup, I've heard that before, lol.[/quote329fc7692e]

Where did you see someone say that?[/quote329fc7692e]

Figure of speech......

Zags1199

20-04-2009 10:17:59

[quotec6519aa845="jasonatsmtc"]Brad Powers
Chief Executive Officer
+1.646.356.8179
email==brad@activeresponsegroup.combrad@activeresponsegroup.com=brad@activeresponsegroup.combrad@activeresponsegroup.com/email

(got a live person on this one)[/quotec6519aa845]

Did you actually talk to him?

neverendingmoolah

20-04-2009 10:32:15

[quote5c61de5293="kinneylamb"]everybody calm down. dont forget these upcoming weeks are the 9th and 10th week since the last date of certificate reception february 26th. may 1 sounds like an appropriate time to complain like this, but not now. plus someone was told several weeks back, by mpell, that reimbursement would begin (funds received from ARG) on or around april 17. it was after that, that mpell gave the "within these 2 weeks" response. so everythings consistent so far. i know emotions are running high, but give it time.[/quote5c61de5293]

So, I just called ARG. Spoke with Sherry. She says that according to their "corporate office" they are starting to send out checks. But due to overwhelming response, blah, blah, (they are experiencing delays). She said that the corporate office has not given them any type of schedule for shipping out the checks, but that they are starting to go out and to watch the status page for an indication when the checks ship out. This is the first that I am hearing about CORPORATE being involved and making a committment. Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel and we will start to see something by May 1st.

oleus

20-04-2009 10:48:53

[quote11c4746024="neverendingmoolah"][quote11c4746024="kinneylamb"]everybody calm down. dont forget these upcoming weeks are the 9th and 10th week since the last date of certificate reception february 26th. may 1 sounds like an appropriate time to complain like this, but not now. plus someone was told several weeks back, by mpell, that reimbursement would begin (funds received from ARG) on or around april 17. it was after that, that mpell gave the "within these 2 weeks" response. so everythings consistent so far. i know emotions are running high, but give it time.[/quote11c4746024]

So, I just called ARG. Spoke with Sherry. She says that according to their "corporate office" they are starting to send out checks. But due to overwhelming response, blah, blah, (they are experiencing delays). She said that the corporate office has not given them any type of schedule for shipping out the checks, but that they are starting to go out and to watch the status page for an indication when the checks ship out. This is the first that I am hearing about CORPORATE being involved and making a committment. Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel and we will start to see something by May 1st.[/quote11c4746024]

given the amount of questions they are having to field, you'd think the corporate office would provide some type of timeframe/timeline.

walrus9

20-04-2009 10:50:00

I just did another batch of calls. I contacted mPell and was told that they haven't been authorized to release checks yet, but that ARG was going to begin releasing checks in the next two weeks and that they would be staggered.

I then called ARG back to complain that even though they keep telling me checks are being released, that mPell is saying that isn't the case as of yet. I asked to speak to a manager who basically repeated the same thing. Over 7000 letters, they all came due at the same time. He didn't have a whole lot of advice other than to wait or write a letter to corporate.

RolltheStampede

20-04-2009 10:51:58

It was 2 weeks about 2 weeks ago.
What is the address to corporate.
I think I will pull an Andy Dufram and write a letter each week till they send me some hush money.

ohboyitsryan

20-04-2009 10:56:14

[quotec69b0e3132="kinneylamb"]everybody calm down. dont forget these upcoming weeks are the 9th and 10th week since the last date of certificate reception february 26th. may 1 sounds like an appropriate time to complain like this, but not now. plus someone was told several weeks back, by mpell, that reimbursement would begin (funds received from ARG) on or around april 17. it was after that, that mpell gave the "within these 2 weeks" response. so everythings consistent so far. i know emotions are running high, but give it time.[/quotec69b0e3132]

there are several points which are fundamentally wrong with your post.

I don't know where you find 'consistency' with mpell/arg assertions other than ARG consistently delaying payment and Mpell consistently denying knowledge of anything.

it is also an absolute fallacy to believe that people will "calm down" in light of this process. and as far as an 'appropriate time to complain', that day came exactly 24 hours after everyone's 10 weeks were up. we were bound to an agreement, strung along, and exploited. I plan on being proactive in the next day or two, in making my complaints towards these companies. will it help? who knows. but it's a lot more productive than me just sitting and waiting.

i know you're trying to mitigate tension, which I appreciate. but you're giving these companies more credit than they deserve.

neverendingmoolah

20-04-2009 11:16:34

[quote09431bbad2="walrus9"]Over 7000 letters, they all came due at the same time. He didn't have a whole lot of advice other than to wait or write a letter to corporate.[/quote09431bbad2]

What's with these guys... I mean didn't they know that all the letters would come in around the same time, given the fact that they made everyone stick to the same deadline to send them in? Now they are saying they were not prepared for that response. Some excuse huh???
(

walrus9

20-04-2009 11:21:37

I asked that and the customer service people all sounded pretty annoyed with their corporate office. The address is

303 Park Ave S, Ste 10010
New York, NY 10010

ploppsdman

20-04-2009 11:24:05

This reminds me of that lame sign in every crap-hole bar

Free Beer Tomorrow

neverendingmoolah

20-04-2009 11:29:55

[quote2666a2dc83="RolltheStampede"]It was 2 weeks about 2 weeks ago.
What is the address to corporate.
I think I will pull an Andy Dufram and write a letter each week till they send me some hush money.[/quote2666a2dc83]

These guys stay in some SHITt....FREAKING UNREAL...

http//www.dwt.com/DealsandCases?find=65233

This came from their Contact Us Page
Our headquarters are located
in New York City.
Main phone # (212) 268-4535

BTW, I called this number and was told to speak to Preonca. She didn't answer (of course) but I left her a voicemail.



New York
104 West 27th Street
Suite 200
New York, NY 10001



Weston
2900 Glades Circle
Suite 1050
Weston, FL 33327



Boulder
100 Arapahoe Dr.
Boulder, CO 80302

hawke12

20-04-2009 11:38:19

[quotebc9aa2f77a="neverendingmoolah"][quotebc9aa2f77a="walrus9"]Over 7000 letters, they all came due at the same time. He didn't have a whole lot of advice other than to wait or write a letter to corporate.[/quotebc9aa2f77a]

What's with these guys... I mean didn't they know that all the letters would come in around the same time, given the fact that they made everyone stick to the same deadline to send them in? Now they are saying they were not prepared for that response. Some excuse huh???
([/quotebc9aa2f77a]

They expected a lot more NOT to respond to the letters.

PS600REVX

20-04-2009 11:39:53

[quotea5e07f502a="neverendingmoolah"][quotea5e07f502a="RolltheStampede"]It was 2 weeks about 2 weeks ago.
What is the address to corporate.
I think I will pull an Andy Dufram and write a letter each week till they send me some hush money.[/quotea5e07f502a]

These guys stay in some SHITt....FREAKING UNREAL...

http//www.dwt.com/DealsandCases?find=65233

This came from their Contact Us Page
Our headquarters are located
in New York City.
Main phone # (212) 268-4535

BTW, I called this number and was told to speak to Preonca. She didn't answer (of course) but I left her a voicemail.



New York
104 West 27th Street
Suite 200
New York, NY 10001



Weston
2900 Glades Circle
Suite 1050
Weston, FL 33327



Boulder
100 Arapahoe Dr.
Boulder, CO 80302[/quotea5e07f502a]

That case was dismissed.

neverendingmoolah

20-04-2009 11:41:33

[quote5af610ef31="PS600REVX"][quote5af610ef31="neverendingmoolah"][quote5af610ef31="RolltheStampede"]It was 2 weeks about 2 weeks ago.
What is the address to corporate.
I think I will pull an Andy Dufram and write a letter each week till they send me some hush money.[/quote5af610ef31]

These guys stay in some SHITt....FREAKING UNREAL...

http//www.dwt.com/DealsandCases?find=65233

This came from their Contact Us Page
Our headquarters are located
in New York City.
Main phone # (212) 268-4535

BTW, I called this number and was told to speak to Preonca. She didn't answer (of course) but I left her a voicemail.



New York
104 West 27th Street
Suite 200
New York, NY 10001



Weston
2900 Glades Circle
Suite 1050
Weston, FL 33327



Boulder
100 Arapahoe Dr.
Boulder, CO 80302[/quote5af610ef31]

That case was dismissed.[/quote5af610ef31]

yea I know....

Thank you.

PS600REVX

20-04-2009 11:42:32

[quoted4a893017a="neverendingmoolah"][quoted4a893017a="PS600REVX"][quoted4a893017a="neverendingmoolah"][quoted4a893017a="RolltheStampede"]It was 2 weeks about 2 weeks ago.
What is the address to corporate.
I think I will pull an Andy Dufram and write a letter each week till they send me some hush money.[/quoted4a893017a]

These guys stay in some SHITt....FREAKING UNREAL...

http//www.dwt.com/DealsandCases?find=65233

This came from their Contact Us Page
Our headquarters are located
in New York City.
Main phone # (212) 268-4535

BTW, I called this number and was told to speak to Preonca. She didn't answer (of course) but I left her a voicemail.



New York
104 West 27th Street
Suite 200
New York, NY 10001



Weston
2900 Glades Circle
Suite 1050
Weston, FL 33327



Boulder
100 Arapahoe Dr.
Boulder, CO 80302[/quoted4a893017a]

That case was dismissed.[/quoted4a893017a]

yea I know....

Thank you.[/quoted4a893017a]

Sorry, just wasn't sure why you posted it that's all.

neverendingmoolah

20-04-2009 11:45:48

Here is ARG's corporate details. There is even a forms filler to send them an email. Feel free everyone!!!

http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/contact.php

neverendingmoolah

20-04-2009 12:00:16

[quote3c2e2f22b3="PS600REVX"][Sorry, just wasn't sure why you posted it that's all.[/quote3c2e2f22b3]

I posted because until recently I was not aware of all the legalities involving ARG and although this particular lawsuit was dismissed, they have several still pending in NY State. How many are pending in other venues across the country? It helps to know who exactly you are dealing with. Like somone mentioned earlier if they had known that the ball would be in ARG's court to send out the reimbursements after involving MPell, that they would never have participated in the cash back certificates. I think a lot of people feel that way now. I also feel that had I known about all these pending lawsuits I would never have completed any offers. I feel that it is deceptive on ARG's part to continue to operate in a business as usual manner, allowing innocent consumers to complete new offers and NOT have any means of paying them. With that said, thanks to this FORUM, we all should be more informed now than we were several years, even months ago, and I will not be completing any more ARG sites anytime soon.

I mean I can understand them having difficulty in fulfilling the 4 offer/1k visa gift cards. But I also have three other sites I am awaiting reimbursement for, $200, $250 and the $500 Amex and it seems they have all but halted sending out any gift cards, checks or any reimbursements. Since they are not being forthright we have no way of knowing.

RolltheStampede

20-04-2009 12:25:52

Hmmmm seems most of the people getting letters have since stopped bitching. I would imagine that they got responses from brandarama something to the effect that we will settle with you for X amount but you are not to disclose the settlement or talk about it.

Most of the conversation going on now is the non letter people complaining about shipping times as normal.

JANGALANG32

20-04-2009 12:32:59

i got a letter still waiting a response to why they are enforcing the new rules on old accts. did anyone that threatened lawsuit hear anything back?

kinneylamb

20-04-2009 13:10:58

[quotedc65c79413="ohboyitsryan"]they are staggering checks, just not mpell checks...[/quotedc65c79413]
correct, not mpell. all mpell accounts are due the funds in full and have not been received yet.

edit well those were the original terms..

[quotedc65c79413="RolltheStampede"]Hmmmm seems most of the people getting letters have since stopped bitching. I would imagine that they got responses from brandarama something to the effect that we will settle with you for X amount but you are not to disclose the settlement or talk about it.

Most of the conversation going on now is the non letter people complaining about shipping times as normal.[/quotedc65c79413]
or they got the response back that they are officially dq'd and dont want to talk about it.

orangejuice

20-04-2009 13:13:04

I didnt get any settlement, but i dont really care anymore, its only 15 grand i guess

mistertomlinson

20-04-2009 13:47:06

[quote004790e3f7="orangejuice"]I didnt get any settlement, but i dont really care anymore, its only 15 grand i guess[/quote004790e3f7]

God damn, that sucks. I'm just waiting on $5,000 that I'll be putting towards a car... but man, the car I could buy for $15K...

manOFice

20-04-2009 13:58:24

[quotef25299a943="orangejuice"]I didnt get any settlement, but i dont really care anymore, its only 15 grand i guess[/quotef25299a943]

only roll

tylerc

20-04-2009 14:46:57

If you're waiting on $15k, you deserved to get the letter, because there's no way you did that legitimately.

zr2152

20-04-2009 16:34:06

[quote0c4aaa6e15="tylerc"]If you're waiting on $15k, you deserved to get the letter, because there's no way you did that legitimately.[/quote0c4aaa6e15]

You know that is only going to start something...lol

FreeOffersNow

20-04-2009 17:01:15

Hate to be "that guy", but the way I figure it, the more people that get DQ'd, the better my chances of getting paid. I'm just hopeful only people who deserve to get DQ'd (whether it was outlined in the terms or not, if you knew or had reason to know your actions were not in-line with the intention of ARG and/or the program sponsors...this means you) do.

oleus

20-04-2009 17:19:18

well, they DQ'd a bunch of people, and now we're back to the brandarama waiting game. not sure it really helped us out much!

kinneylamb

20-04-2009 17:59:11

[quote91bb4037d7="walrus9"]I just did another batch of calls. I contacted mPell and was told that they haven't been authorized to release checks yet, but that ARG was going to begin releasing checks in the next two weeks and that they would be staggered.

I then called ARG back to complain that even though they keep telling me checks are being released, that mPell is saying that isn't the case as of yet. I asked to speak to a manager who basically repeated the same thing. Over 7000 letters, they all came due at the same time. He didn't have a whole lot of advice other than to wait or write a letter to corporate.[/quote91bb4037d7]
when has mpell ever used the words staggered checks? i dont think they told you that. details, details..

[quote91bb4037d7="Spinxter"]Thank you for contacting us.

The corporate office has said that they are staggering the checks and when yours is mailed it will update you your status page on the Brandarama site.[/quote91bb4037d7]
like ohboyitsryan said, the checks are being staggered for people just not mpell checks. are you one of those people waiting from the december expedited list or other special circumstances?

[quote91bb4037d7="ohboyitsryan"]
there are several points which are fundamentally wrong with your post.

I don't know where you find 'consistency' with mpell/arg assertions other than ARG consistently delaying payment and Mpell consistently denying knowledge of anything.

it is also an absolute fallacy to believe that people will "calm down" in light of this process. and as far as an 'appropriate time to complain', that day came exactly 24 hours after everyone's 10 weeks were up. we were bound to an agreement, strung along, and exploited. I plan on being proactive in the next day or two, in making my complaints towards these companies. will it help? who knows. but it's a lot more productive than me just sitting and waiting.

i know you're trying to mitigate tension, which I appreciate. but you're giving these companies more credit than they deserve.[/quote91bb4037d7]
i dont think you read that particular page. on that page, there was much to do about nothing.

mistertomlinson

20-04-2009 18:53:54

[quotecfb8297707="tylerc"]If you're waiting on $15k, you deserved to get the letter, because there's no way you did that legitimately.[/quotecfb8297707]

Here we go again.

orangejuice

20-04-2009 20:28:01

Oh well. you know what, your right..haha. but it wasn't against the rules at the time like all of the other sites. so its their fault. i'll continue to harrass them every day though. its the least i can do. I send 2 letters to their office every day and call the CS all the time

slambam

20-04-2009 20:31:24

[quote2d717b881c="zr2152"][quote2d717b881c="tylerc"]If you're waiting on $15k, you deserved to get the letter, because there's no way you did that legitimately.[/quote2d717b881c]

You know that is only going to start something...lol[/quote2d717b881c]

Seems pretty right on though. That has to be at least 90 offers. I know they have a lot of offers if you spread them out over time, but 90? Especially being on the right pages and everything. No way Jose.

orangejuice

20-04-2009 20:39:39

haha. i don't care. i got over $7000 from the reward depot so that makes up for half of it

slambam

20-04-2009 21:00:02

[quotee850a487b0="orangejuice"]haha. i don't care. i got over $7000 from the reward depot so that makes up for half of it[/quotee850a487b0]

Nice, so you admit doing 2 sites there when the rules state only 1 is allowed. You're pretty cool man.

marbs4life

20-04-2009 22:29:52

[quote23c7caaf43="slambam"][quote23c7caaf43="orangejuice"]haha. i don't care. i got over $7000 from the reward depot so that makes up for half of it[/quote23c7caaf43]

Nice, so you admit doing 2 sites there when the rules state only 1 is allowed. You're pretty cool man.[/quote23c7caaf43]

Who says I don't have 3?

bennyboy5768

20-04-2009 22:40:43

Nevermind.

wozniack

20-04-2009 23:23:25

[quotec65560dc59="slambam"][quotec65560dc59="orangejuice"]haha. i don't care. i got over $7000 from the [bc65560dc59]reward depot[/bc65560dc59] so that makes up for half of it[/quotec65560dc59]

Nice, so you admit doing 2 sites there when the rules state only 1 is allowed. You're pretty cool man.[/quotec65560dc59]

I hate to cut in here, but The Reward Depot isn't connected to Brandarama. It's Acquisis. and you can only complete one site per lifetime. I think that's what slambam meant.

walrus9

21-04-2009 05:00:09

[quote48ff9d434e="walrus9"]I just did another batch of calls. I contacted mPell and was told that they haven't been authorized to release checks yet, but that ARG was going to begin releasing checks in the next two weeks and that they would be staggered.

I then called ARG back to complain that even though they keep telling me checks are being released, that mPell is saying that isn't the case as of yet. I asked to speak to a manager who basically repeated the same thing. Over 7000 letters, they all came due at the same time. He didn't have a whole lot of advice other than to wait or write a letter to corporate.[/quote48ff9d434e]
when has mpell ever used the words staggered checks? i dont think they told you that. details, details..



That is exactly what they told me. I thought people would be interested in the fact that's the language that they used so I posted it.

oleus

21-04-2009 09:49:32

yet, i still can't get a straight answer from brandarama about WHEN this staggered check delivery will start and mpell is no longer answering emails.

"staggered" check delivery sounds long and drawn out enough, so it would be nice to at least have some sort of clue as to when this BS will even start.

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 10:51:16

theres no reason for staggered checks !! thats what theyre paying mpell for. they approved us, mpell approved us, they audited people, what is the reason for staggered checks?! send the money for the approved people to mpell and let mpell cut the damn checks!!

oleus

21-04-2009 11:02:20

[quote119184f8e4="kinneylamb"]theres no reason for staggered checks !! thats what theyre paying mpell for. they approved us, mpell approved us, they audited people, what is the reason for staggered checks?! send the money for the approved people to mpell and let mpell cut the damn checks!![/quote119184f8e4]

exactly. it's just another clue that this whole thing is Flililili and mpell at this point doesn't seem like they have any interest in getting us our money either.

closest i can get to any answer is from ARG - to keep checking my status page. been doing that since october 2007.

i'm glad i actually needed the stuff i bought for my mpell certificates. what a joke. mpell's precious BBB rating is in jeopardy now, i'm starting that today. i know BBB complaint filing rarely do anything but i gotta do something.

ghounds07

21-04-2009 12:03:28

can anyone give me a link so I can read some of the BBB complaints and responses?

Can't seem to find it...

oleus

21-04-2009 12:11:39

i'm thinking of buying our old friend Kim some flowers , maybe if i send them to ARG they will forward them to her.

the new CSR's don't seem to feel our pain.

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 12:20:16

I believe (PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK) that this is the BBB link for Mpell. It's slowly approaching the time where their A rating is going to fall. You can't call yourself a fulfillment house when you lack the ability to fulfill anything. There's no hiding behind your forms or your lame excuse of "we shouldn't have gotten involved." You should have been honest with us when problems began to surface, you should have been competent. Passing the buck, ignoring our emails, making up information about "things will ship in 8-10 week" or they'll ship "in the next 2 weeks." These are not, or had better not be, criteria of an A rated business

http//www.bbb.org/san-diego/business-reviews/fulfillment-services/mpell-solutions-llc-in-carlsbad-ca-29009108

Complaint page {use only after making sure this is the right company}
https//odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/cibrbusiness.aspx?e=3863930&id=46a6a9cd-5402-454e-9476-e4df22e6f371&site=113

bruman

21-04-2009 12:25:19

I'll give them until May 01 until I start thinking about filing any complaints. A lot of people are still in the 8-10 week timeframe.

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 12:27:52

From that company's website (assuming its the right one)

http//www.mpellsolutions.com/how_we_do_it.html

In this link, it states "You purchase certificates from Mpell." You, being the company. If Mpell has not been paid, it appears that they went outside of their usual business practice.

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 12:30:53

May 4th is a Monday. If that check isn't in the mail box by then, that's the endgame. Everyone should rightfully complain via the BBB and ripoff-report.

oleus

21-04-2009 12:46:41

someone on joshclark just claimed to have been told by brandarama/sherry that their mpell fulfillment check shipped today. FWIW.

tylerc

21-04-2009 12:53:42

I think everyone should give MPell the full time and chill out a bit. If the certificates were due by February 26th, and it takes about 2 weeks after they are received to process them, let's give them 8-10 weeks from that time. MPell seems to be a good company concerned with reputation and I have a feeling they're just as fed up with ARG as we are, if not more.

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 13:11:55

[quotedf9f6b1bd5="oleus"]i'm thinking of buying our old friend Kim some flowers , maybe if i send them to ARG they will forward them to her.

the new CSR's don't seem to feel our pain.[/quotedf9f6b1bd5]

waste of money in a recession...and I'm STILL trying to figure out that woman's worth

neverendingmoolah

21-04-2009 13:16:01

[quotea096518f5c="oleus"]someone on joshclark just claimed to have been told by brandarama/sherry that their mpell fulfillment check shipped today. FWIW.[/quotea096518f5c]

So now Sherry is confirming via phone that our checks were shipped? I thought they had to go through Mpell and then be shipped to us???

bl63

21-04-2009 13:16:59

[quote3271f35fb7="oleus"]someone on joshclark just claimed to have been told by brandarama/sherry that their mpell fulfillment check shipped today. FWIW.[/quote3271f35fb7]

No offense, but if I am looking at the same post, they never mentioned Mpell fulfillment check...only that they spoke to Sherry and their check was shipped and they would have to sign for it. That sounds like someone who is getting paid directly from ARG and not through Mpell, who has said that the checks they send do not need to be signed for.

oleus

21-04-2009 13:17:44

so they're paying out everyone BUT the mpell people.

nice.

manOFice

21-04-2009 13:34:17

brandarama has all our mpell receipt data I think we're gonna get paid by ARG....

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 13:38:31

It was for 12 cases of Dr. Pepper. Seriously. That's what our excitement has come to.

oleus

21-04-2009 13:46:02

[quotee91c7fe5f4="ploppsdman"]It was for 12 cases of Dr. Pepper. Seriously. That's what our excitement has come to.[/quotee91c7fe5f4]

My apologies for posting it, seemed like some good news but obviously it's not even close.

oleus

21-04-2009 14:25:50

this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.

manOFice

21-04-2009 14:27:19

[quotebedfa98b67="oleus"]this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.[/quotebedfa98b67]

lol lol lol

Crys2101

21-04-2009 14:53:42

[quote7b3d537cac="oleus"]this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.[/quote7b3d537cac]

Who cares if they feel our pain?? They entered into an agreement with us when they sent out those letters. Regardless of whether they've been paid, they are obligated to send out those checks. Mpell has already made money off of us, we agreed to allow them to sell our information. If ARG is screwing them over, I'm sure they have a contract and they can sue. We did what we were asked to do and we deserve our money. I really don't feel sorry for them if their BBB rating takes a hit. They deserve it.

oleus

21-04-2009 14:55:23

[quote649e297799="Crys2101"][quote649e297799="oleus"]this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.[/quote649e297799]

Who cares if they feel our pain?? They entered into an agreement with us when they sent out those letters. Regardless of whether they've been paid, they are obligated to send out those checks. Mpell has already made money off of us, we agreed to allow them to sell our information. If ARG is screwing them over, I'm sure they have a contract and they can sue. We did what we were asked to do and we deserve our money. I really don't feel sorry for them if their BBB rating takes a hit. They deserve it.[/quote649e297799]

they can't even get the name right in a customer service email meant to calm me down. that's pretty telling.


my BBB complaint is being filed right after work this evening. Enough of this crap.

neverendingmoolah

21-04-2009 14:57:24

[quotea85b13f825="oleus"]this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.[/quotea85b13f825]

Mpell could have avoided all this by simply requesting all payments in advance from ARG. Had they been more proactive and conducted their due diligence on ARG they would have known that this company was headed for shambles. They could have gotten paid by now, and assured that everyone received payment within the initial timeframe (8 to 10 weeks).

oleus

21-04-2009 15:04:57

in retrospect, i regret getting involved in this kind of business with mpell.

neverendingmoolah

21-04-2009 15:19:04

At this point, I guess it's futile to even consider filing BBB against ARG
Pulled this off their website. LET US ALL PRAY.........

Heres the link http//search.newyork.bbb.org/reports.aspx?pid=44&page=1&id=87696

Business Contact Information

NameACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP, LLCAdditional Business NamesARG

Brandarama.com

Oridian, Inc

PollPrizeUSA.com

Rewards Parade

Rewards Parade

Top Consumer Rewards

Ultimate Rewards

USABrandSurvey.com

USASurveyGroup.com

Wholesome Rewards

YourTopBrands.com
Address26 West 17th Street, Suite 900
New York, NY 10011View Location Map

PrincipalBrad Powers, CEOPhone Number(212) 268-4535Additional Phone Numbers(212) 661-4473
(212) 475-4128
(877) 312-7263
(646) 356-8158


Fax Number(212) 268-0099email= email=Addressinfo@activeresponsegroup.comWebsitewww.activeresponsegroup.comAAddressinfo@activeresponsegroup.comWebsitewww.activeresponsegroup.comA email=Addressinfo@activeresponsegroup.comWebsitewww.activeresponsegroup.comAAddressinfo@activeresponsegroup.comWebsitewww.activeresponsegroup.comA/emaildditional Websiteswww.brandarama.com
www.rewardsparade.com
www.usabrandsurvey.com
www.wholesomerewards.com
www.yourtopbrands.comType of BusinessMarketing Programs & Services, Sales Promotion Service



This is NOT a BBB Accredited business


The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.
Nature of BusinessBack To TopAccording to complaints received by the BBB, Active Response Group offers gifts computers, iPods, and gift certificates to consumers for applying to its sponsorship offers on its websites and does not deliver the gift to the consumer. Consumers allege that Branderama is supposed to send them a complimentary gift by mail after they complete a certain number of offers, many of which the consumer must purchase. Consumers allege that when they inquire about their missing gift, the company states that in order to receive such gifts, consumers have to complete more offers or that they are not yet qualified. Consumers state that they are still waiting for their free gifts and that the company does not respond to their requests.

Customer ExperienceBack To Top Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau because it failed to substantiate or modify advertising claims.

The company's size, volume of business, and number of transactions may have a bearing on the number of complaints received by the BBB. The number of complaints filed against a company may not be as important as the type of complaints, and how the company handled them. The BBB generally does not pass judgment on the validity of complaints filed.

Complaint Outcome StatisticsBack To TopComplaint Outcome Last 12 Months Last 12..36 Months Total
Resolved
Consumer received the requested resolution 20 74 94
Resolved
Consumer received part of the requested resolution 0 5 5
Administratively Judged Resolved
The Company has responded to the complaint(s) addressing the disputed issues, however, the consumer remains dissatisfied 1 13 14
No Response
The Company has failed to respond to complaints 97 88 185
TOTAL 118 180 298
Complaint IssuesBack To TopPlease understand that complaints may concern more than one issue

Complaint Issue Last 12 Months Last 12..36 Months Total
Advertising Issues 18 41 59
Billing or Collection Issues 1 0 1
Contract Disputes 8 13 21
Credit or Billing Disputes 0 1 1
Customer Services Issues 6 2 8
Delivery Issues 66 71 137
Guarantee or Warranty Issues 0 4 4
Product Issues 5 1 6
Product Quality 0 1 1
Refund Practices 0 1 1
Selling Practices 3 20 23
Service Issues 11 25 36
TOTAL 118 180 298
Company AdvertisingBack To TopIn October, 2006, the BBB challenged this firm's advertising of "free" products. The firm has not responded.

Additional LocationsBack To TopThis firm also does business at the following locations.

303 Park Avenue, #1079
New York, NY 10010

26 West 17th Street, Suite 900
New York, NY 10011

900 Broadway, #203
New York, NY 10003

tylerc

21-04-2009 15:19:08

What other options did we have? ARG basically held us hostage with the use of MPell, saying if you do not participate in this you will not receive your gift(s).

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 15:22:55

[quotec5cc4ed7ff="oleus"]this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.[/quotec5cc4ed7ff]
morgan works at brandarama. care to share the e-mail please?

tp24

21-04-2009 15:48:10

[quote168425c8cf="oleus"]this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.[/quote168425c8cf]

Not even if you rearrange it? P

dubbin87

21-04-2009 16:04:27

[quote31e38fea1e="neverendingmoolah"]

Mpell could have avoided all this by simply requesting all payments in advance from ARG. Had they been more proactive and conducted their due diligence on ARG they would have known that this company was headed for shambles. They could have gotten paid by now, and assured that everyone received payment within the initial timeframe (8 to 10 weeks).[/quote31e38fea1e]They just didn't do thier reseach and for that they need to be held account as well, simple fact. it was their name on the paperwork that told me to go spend money to get a gift that I was approved for.

oleus

21-04-2009 16:42:31

[quote2f02c2286a="kinneylamb"][quote2f02c2286a="oleus"]this joke keeps getting funnier.

i got a fairly long email from Mpell just now about how they "feel our pain" and that they have no updates from ARG.

Funny thing is, it was addressed to someone named Morgan. that's not even close to my name.[/quote2f02c2286a]
morgan works at brandarama. care to share the e-mail please?[/quote2f02c2286a]

sure, here it is. I didn't add the quotations, it's as-is, which makes it even funnier IMHO

Morgan, Please believe me when I say "I truly understand how you feel" as we pride ourselves on outstanding customer service and never want our customers to wait longer than necessary. Again, I do not know when the reimbursements are going out. To date, we are waiting for Active Response to transfer funds as promised.
We have been asked by Active Response to have all questions and concerns regarding this matter directed to their customer service line which is 877 312-7263. You may have better luck calling them directly.

Thank you!




Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575
-------------------

Zags1199

21-04-2009 17:10:08

Wow, what a joke.

oleus

21-04-2009 17:44:24

guys, i don't even know what to make of this followup i just got other than it sounds like MPell thinks they can just disappear from this situation with no accountability.

"Additionally, we have been informed today, (within the last hour), Active Response has stated they will be taking over the fulfillment process and be responsible for issuing checks. Thank you! "

this is sooooooooooooo wrong

Crys2101

21-04-2009 18:11:00

[quote49e5f76bc8="oleus"]guys, i don't even know what to make of this followup i just got other than it sounds like MPell thinks they can just disappear from this situation with no accountability.

"Additionally, we have been informed today, (within the last hour), Active Response has stated they will be taking over the fulfillment process and be responsible for issuing checks. Thank you! "

this is sooooooooooooo wrong[/quote49e5f76bc8]

So what the hell did we front the money for??

dubbin87

21-04-2009 18:17:27

[quote90f4e7d066="Crys2101"][quote90f4e7d066="oleus"]guys, i don't even know what to make of this followup i just got other than it sounds like MPell thinks they can just disappear from this situation with no accountability.

"Additionally, we have been informed today, (within the last hour), Active Response has stated they will be taking over the fulfillment process and be responsible for issuing checks. Thank you! "

this is sooooooooooooo wrong[/quote90f4e7d066]

So what the hell did we front the money for??[/quote90f4e7d066]

To fuck us over....

oleus

21-04-2009 18:22:02

Mpell is using the same UPS/Amazon comparison in their latest email to me and they are horrified to think someone would be so stupid as to complain to the BBB about them.

what a complete and utter joke. Doesn't this seem illegal?

dubbin87

21-04-2009 18:24:23

or better yet of how it went down.

Mpell- "hey ARG we have people asking us daily when is the money coming? people are getting pissed we don't want to be taken down"

ARG- "uhhhhhh fuck we ain't got no money"

Mpell- "you assholes, you are going to fuck our company over"

ARG- "so?"

Mpell- "expect to hear from our lawyers"

ARG- "so?"

Mpell- "fine just take us out of the loop, we arn't doing this cashback shit anymore"

ARG- "fine we wern't going to pay you anything anyways"

Mpell- "well are you going to atleast pay the 1st round of people?"

ARG- "with what money?"

RolltheStampede

21-04-2009 18:33:02

[quotec84775e773="oleus"]guys, i don't even know what to make of this followup i just got other than it sounds like MPell thinks they can just disappear from this situation with no accountability.

"Additionally, we have been informed today, (within the last hour), Active Response has stated they will be taking over the fulfillment process and be responsible for issuing checks. Thank you! "

this is sooooooooooooo wrong[/quotec84775e773]

HAHA wow so now back to square one and they are saying if you didnt go through mpell you are screwed even though mpell did nothing but make people spend money they didnt have,

I wonder if they will even be checks now, they will probably default to the gifts people were suppose to get.

What is next. sorry the gift you signed up for is not made anymore so we cant send it to you, goodbye

prizejunkie

21-04-2009 18:35:19

I am calling them tomorrow, the college scholorshit site is down and i want to know if they have my info

Crys2101

21-04-2009 18:37:39

[quote2ad06cd7ec="RolltheStampede"]
What is next. sorry the gift you signed up for is not made anymore so we cant send it to you, goodbye[/quote2ad06cd7ec]

LMAO! Thanks.. I needed a laugh.

oleus

21-04-2009 18:44:46

i am so mad right now it's difficult to describe. and to think i was ignorant enough to think mpell's involvement was the only way we'd see our money.

RolltheStampede

21-04-2009 18:51:07

So wait since fulfilment is back to brandarama do the people who di dnot send in or were late with mpell certificates be fulfilled by bradarama now.

They shouldnt be able to say oh you didnt send the cert to some mystery company that has nothing to do with anything anymore so you arent getting paid.

desertwilite

21-04-2009 19:08:28

[quotef009c99a0b="RolltheStampede"]So wait since fulfilment is back to brandarama do the people who di dnot send in or were late with mpell certificates be fulfilled by bradarama now.

They shouldnt be able to say oh you didnt send the cert to some mystery company that has nothing to do with anything anymore so you arent getting paid.[/quotef009c99a0b]

But then they have been saying whatever they freakin want to lately, even when it doesn't make any sense. Idiot company. x

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 19:12:29

so is it true that ARG pulled the plug on Mpell

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 19:22:08

they're still in the terms... i think ARG has messed up on this one, unless there's more info to this. like maybe theyre only doing it for the 7000 checks (lol only) and then afterward mpell will do it. cause ARG wants to do it staggered for whatever reason, and for the purpose of their business relationship, can't keep mpell waiting. i just feel like ARG put forth too much of a commitment, changing all the terms across all the sites etc. just to pull out. my guess is, they are looking at our receipts / accounts to make sure we can get checks. and theres so many of them, again they couldn't keep mpell waiting. idk. ?

oleus

21-04-2009 20:06:21

check out the last paragraph in the email i just got from Mpell. I am speechless.
---------------------------------------------

I truly do apologize that you have been waiting so long for your gifts and that you are upset with the redemption process. I do understand your frustrations and concerns, and I want to clarify a few things for you.

Our company, Mpell Solutions, is a fulfillment house and has been contracted by Active Response Group to fulfill these promotional items for their customers. The terms and conditions of these offers have been set and chosen by Active Response Group.

If you have an issue with the redemption process, I would recommend giving Active Response customer support line a call at 877-312-7263.

Also, If you were confirmed/verified with Brandarama I do wonder why you took part in the redemption process when you knew that we were hired to do a job. You say Mpell sent you a certificate saying the only way to get your gifts was to go buy the items yourself. Why would you give a company you've never heard of your personal information and buy the items? Did you follow directions knowing that was the only way to receive your promised gifts with Brandarama? It would appear so. Unfortunately, as you stated earlier, Active Response is known for delays and I sincerely hope that you will call them and get reimbursement soon. Please forward all your questions to them.

Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions Customer Service
email==support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com=support@mpellsolutions.comsupport@mpellsolutions.com/email
(800) 450-1575

Stkfree1

21-04-2009 20:08:47

"Also, If you were confirmed/verified with Brandarama I do wonder why you took part in the redemption process when you knew that we were hired to do a job. You say Mpell sent you a certificate saying the only way to get your gifts was to go buy the items yourself. Why would you give a company you've never heard of your personal information and buy the items? Did you follow directions knowing that was the only way to receive your promised gifts with Brandarama? It would appear so. Unfortunately, as you stated earlier, Active Response is known for delays and I sincerely hope that you will call them and get reimbursement soon. Please forward all your questions to them. "

FUcking assholes.

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 20:20:55

mpell never read their own certificates did they? we asked brandarama, and they said the certificate is not an option it's the only way to get fulfilled. i'm firing an e-mail to mpell. that was out of line.

oleus

21-04-2009 20:25:19

[quote7dd5f8f050="kinneylamb"]mpell never read their own certificates did they? we asked brandarama, and they said the certificate is not an option it's the only way to get fulfilled. i'm firing an e-mail to mpell. that was out of line.[/quote7dd5f8f050]

yeah, i can't remember brandarama getting snippy like that ever, in any email. and this mpell rep honestly doesn't seem to know this WAS the only option for getting gifts, and then throws in my face the garbage about giving them my personal info when i know "nothing about them"??

that email will fill in my BBB complaint quite nicely.


this is digusting.

ghounds07

21-04-2009 20:26:48

Yeah, I gotta give them a call tomorrow this is becoming a huge joke...ARG better pay me my money soon.

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 20:32:20

[quote39021bb3b8="oleus"]
yeah, i can't remember brandarama getting snippy like that ever, in any email. and this mpell rep honestly doesn't seem to know this WAS the only option for getting gifts, and then throws in my face the garbage about giving them my personal info when i know "nothing about them"??

[b39021bb3b8]that email will fill in my BBB complaint quite nicely.[/b39021bb3b8]

this is digusting.[/quote39021bb3b8]
LMAO rofl

desertwilite

21-04-2009 20:33:09

God this sounds like a huge joke! (But then again....it has for awhile) I can not believe Mpell would say that after forcing everyone to submit to their certificate bullshit! Heads are going to roll

Zags1199

21-04-2009 20:33:44

Mpell will just respond to your BBB complaints with the UPS/Amazon analogy. And because the BBB is so incompetent, they will close the complaint and mark it as resolved, without giving a chance for your rebuttal.

And that e-mail, especially the last paragraph, is inane and out of line. A course in logic would help Mpell immensely. Did Sylvia or Megan write that? Both seem like incompetent "businesswomen."

oleus

21-04-2009 20:35:15

in my response back, i noted that i must have done more research about Mpell before sending in my certificate than they apparently did about ARG before going into business with them.

ps - sylvia wrote the email.

oleus

21-04-2009 20:44:10

i need to also get a testimonial from my UPS guy that i've never blamed him for anything in my life. think that will help?

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 20:53:28

well, the time has come to fire back at mpell. we need to BOMBARD them with BBB complaints this week. that just fueled the flame. we need to hit them with 100 complaints. talk about your reliance on them based on their terms, the financial hardship of fronting the cash for gifts, and their gross breach of contract. make it personal, and hit them with it.

if we can't attack arg, we will take care of mpell. we have been exploited way too long.

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 20:56:39

[quote230908f672="oleus"]i need to also get a testimonial from my UPS guy that i've never blamed him for anything in my life. think that will help?[/quote230908f672]

lol

imapepper

21-04-2009 20:56:39

what address have you filed your complaint with mpell? I think there are 2 listed...have to check again.

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 20:59:17

yeah we should streamline addresses so we're on the same page, if you wish to take that route.

there's a carlsbad address and there might be an encinitas address as well. I'm not sure.

oleus

21-04-2009 20:59:55

[quotef78876d062="imapepper"]what address have you filed your complaint with mpell? I think there are 2 listed...have to check again.[/quotef78876d062]

i've asked Sylvia twice now for the address to corporate, she won't answer me that. their website has no physical address either.

more ammo for the complaint if they won't provide info like that, and instead revert to personal attacks like that last email.

oleus

21-04-2009 21:01:37

this will be my first BBB complaint, so any help appreciated, and sure i can wait until we figure out which is the right address so we're all on the same page.

it's time to fight back. those of us who played by the rules appear to have gotten burned bigtime.

orangejuice

21-04-2009 21:03:54

also send 500 pages or so of pure black ink to their fax machine, im sure they will love that

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 21:06:18

[quote2f8e0f9219="ohboyitsryan"]well, the time has come to fire back at mpell. we need to BOMBARD them with BBB complaints this week. that just fueled the flame. we need to hit them with 100 complaints. talk about your reliance on them based on their terms, the financial hardship of fronting the cash for gifts, and their gross breach of contract. make it personal, and hit them with it.

if we can't attack arg, we will take care of mpell. we have been exploited way too long.[/quote2f8e0f9219]
i'm willing to take a picture of my privates and include it with that other guy, forward to brad powers re his wife and anyone else who has a wife at mpell or ARG.

oleus

21-04-2009 21:07:31

i'm going to mention the constant use of the ridiculous UPS analogy in the complaint just to get it out of the way.

BUMP IN THE ROAD '09. it sucks!

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 21:09:00

filing a BBB complaint is easy. just follow the prompts.

question do you file BBB for your state or the state of the business (mpell = california)?

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 21:11:23

[quotefb56825abd="oleus"]this will be my first BBB complaint, so any help appreciated, and sure i can wait until we figure out which is the right address so we're all on the same page.

it's time to fight back. those of us who played by the rules appear to have gotten burned bigtime.[/quotefb56825abd]

I've filed one before from the fatcow offer with yfd. the most important thing is to be professional, clear and really paint the picture that you were a helpless victim. no name calling, or any other childish antics that can discredit your complaint. again, professionalism is the key. I am filing mine tomorrow so I can assist you further once I do that.

imapepper

21-04-2009 21:12:06

I filed a complaint with the one in california tha was listed...it was encinatas but whatever I am soooo freiken annoyed right now!!!!!

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 21:15:42

Mpell Solutions, LLC
3142 Tiger Run Ct #108
Carlsbad, CA 92010

kinneylamb

21-04-2009 21:23:18

lol this is f'ing hysterical

ohboyitsryan

21-04-2009 21:46:09

I really want to get 100 complaints for mpell.

if I didn't have midterms, I'd design a '7000 Strong Against ARG' shirt, for all those checks they are backed up with haha.

I think when I die, I want my tombstone to read my date of birth, date if death, and my CTS date.

Cromwell44

21-04-2009 22:13:55

Man this is ridiculous. So, Mpell doesn't want to spend their own money, then hope that another company pays them back down the road as promised...

IN OTHER WORDS THE EXACT SAME THING THEY TOLD US TO DO!

I don't even know what to make of this anymore, almost speechless.

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 22:35:05

If you are going to begin complaints, remember to be more professional than Mpell and ARG have been. Be truthful and direct.

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 22:38:23

For example, this is part of an email I received from them

"We are a fulfillment house. Our job as a fulfillment house is to make
sure you provide the correct documentation and provide you with the gift
once we receive this required documentation. Also, be quite assured we are
a reputable company in good standing. We honor reimbursements or gifts in
the time specified. "
--------------------------
I'm uncertain how you can turn around and say "don't blame us." Or, "it's your fault," based on this email.

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 22:44:13

Another suggestion I have is to contact any of Mpell's customers who you are also a customer of. For example, it appears starz at one time used Mpell (I can not verify if this site is affiliated with starz, I only use it as an example)

http//www.starznow.com/signup.jsp

Find current customers of Mpell and let them know what kind of business they are working with.

oleus

21-04-2009 22:45:39

[quoteee9c5ead80="ploppsdman"]For example, this is part of an email I received from them

"We are a fulfillment house. Our job as a fulfillment house is to make
sure you provide the correct documentation and provide you with the gift
once we receive this required documentation. Also, be quite assured we are
a reputable company in good standing. We honor reimbursements or gifts in
the time specified. "

I'm uncertain how you can turn around and say "don't blame us." Or, "it's your fault."[/quoteee9c5ead80]

wow, i wish i had an email like that i could have just put in my BBB report to show how their story has changed!

i just completed my BBB complaint via the san diego bureau (for the carlsbad address the bbb site does all the proper routing) online. felt good, and i didn't have to embellish anything. it's just exactly what happened laid out without hysterics or exaggeration. kinda sad it came to this. i mentioned the UPS/Amazon thing, so if that's their response i will literally LOL

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 22:46:58

email==oran@mpellsolutions.comoran@mpellsolutions.com=oran@mpellsolutions.comoran@mpellsolutions.com/email

This is the email address of the CEO. I'll be sending my complaint to the BBB and this address. Again, BE BETTER than ARG or Mpell. Be truthful.

oleus

21-04-2009 23:13:30

[quote7f7edaf040="ploppsdman"]oran@mpellsolutions.com

This is the email address of the CEO. I'll be sending my complaint to the BBB and this address. Again, BE BETTER than ARG or Mpell. Be truthful.[/quote7f7edaf040]

i kept my BBB complaint very dry and to the point.

speaking of which, have i been the only one to get a really rude response from mpell so far? maybe it was one of the last replies that went out tonight...

also, i'm really curious, how can everything just magically shift back to ARG simply at ARG's proclamation? ARG using MPell to weed out people who didn't want to front the money is understandable from a strategic standpoint but why didn't they just do it themselves if this is where it ended up? Why involve Mpell? Assuming they'd have to pay them for the service it just seems bizarre to me.

the BBB might take this seriously, who knows. i won't get my hopes up but it's so

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 23:18:40

I wrote this awhile ago, but I assumed Mpell was being brought in for 2 reasons 1. to eliminate payments from people who ignored the mpell email and 2. to squeeze more money out of people like us, assuming payment would actually happen with mpell being involved, and so we'd do more sites. Shortly after, they'd probably declare bankruptcy.

I'm expecting that to happen in the next few months.

oleus

21-04-2009 23:25:40

[quote082eae5a68="ploppsdman"]I wrote this awhile ago, but I assumed Mpell was being brought in for 2 reasons 1. to eliminate payments from people who ignored the mpell email and 2. to squeeze more money out of people like us, assuming payment would actually happen with mpell being involved, and so we'd do more sites. Shortly after, they'd probably declare bankruptcy.

I'm expecting that to happen in the next few months.[/quote082eae5a68]

if that's true, requiring us to buy the gifts and send in receipts was just a cruel ploy... that act of purchasing shouldn't have had anything to do with it, if it was the qualification for something we will never get that is downright robbery!

ploppsdman

21-04-2009 23:34:08

[quotebc853a3ab1="oleus"][quotebc853a3ab1="ploppsdman"]I wrote this awhile ago, but I assumed Mpell was being brought in for 2 reasons 1. to eliminate payments from people who ignored the mpell email and 2. to squeeze more money out of people like us, assuming payment would actually happen with mpell being involved, and so we'd do more sites. Shortly after, they'd probably declare bankruptcy.

I'm expecting that to happen in the next few months.[/quotebc853a3ab1]

if that's true, requiring us to buy the gifts and send in receipts was just a cruel ploy... that act of purchasing shouldn't have had anything to do with it, if it was the qualification for something we will never get that is downright robbery![/quotebc853a3ab1]

It's all guess work, but making us buy stuff ahead of time would again stop a few people from sending in their forms, and theoretically save them money. Of course, not sending us money at all works well, too. The people working at ARG are pretty much @#$#s. There's nothing else that need be added about them. We all knew it, which makes us all the more angry with Mpell because their involvement should have meant this was coming to a good conclusion. Now that mpell has proven to be just as much a @#3# as ARG, hopefully they'll lose their A rating and lose business for doing this. Mpell = ARG.

mistertomlinson

21-04-2009 23:49:36

I'm not trying to upset anyone or start an argument, but how is filing complaints gonna help? I can't imagine that possibly leading to us receiving what we are owed. I know we've waited long enough, but I just feel these actions are a little premature. I would think this should be a last resort when the majority of us truly believe we got shafted. Right now, I'm not so certain we wont be getting paid. I have my doubts... sure, but I can't say that I have no doubt we wont receive payment. I honestly don't think this is part of some elaborate "plan" to file for bankruptcy. As it's been said before, I'm willing to bet they didn't realize how many people would redeem their cashback certificates and thought MPell would save them money. Obviously, that didn't happen and they still owe more than they can pay. I'm just worried filing these complaints will do more harm than good and I wouldn't mind giving it more time in hopes that things will work out, no matter how long it takes. I would prefer waiting 2 more years for my money versus receiving nothing at all.

dubbin87

22-04-2009 00:59:08

[quote1601e5232c="mistertomlinson"]I'm not trying to upset anyone or start an argument, but how is filing complaints gonna help? I can't imagine that possibly leading to us receiving what we are owed. I know we've waited long enough, but I just feel these actions are a little premature. I would think this should be a last resort when the majority of us truly believe we got shafted. Right now, I'm not so certain we wont be getting paid. I have my doubts... sure, but I can't say that I have no doubt we wont receive payment. I honestly don't think this is part of some elaborate "plan" to file for bankruptcy. As it's been said before, I'm willing to bet they didn't realize how many people would redeem their cashback certificates and thought MPell would save them money. Obviously, that didn't happen and they still owe more than they can pay. I'm just worried filing these complaints will do more harm than good and I wouldn't mind giving it more time in hopes that things will work out, no matter how long it takes. I would prefer waiting 2 more years for my money versus receiving nothing at all.[/quote1601e5232c]I think most of the people talking about filing complaints have already recieved the DQ notice. Pretty much if you got that you are not getting a dime. As for the rest good luck.

dubbin87

22-04-2009 01:05:38

[quote1b486320f4="Zags1199"]Mpell will just respond to your BBB complaints with the UPS/Amazon analogy. And because the BBB is so incompetent, they will close the complaint and mark it as resolved, without giving a chance for your rebuttal.

And that e-mail, especially the last paragraph, is inane and out of line. A course in logic would help Mpell immensely. Did Sylvia or Megan write that? Both seem like incompetent "businesswomen."[/quote1b486320f4]

If all of a sudden they are getting 11ty complaints about a company I'm sure they'll look into the matter a bit deeper.



I say write a complaint for each prize. For some that could be 10-20 complaints. lol

ohboyitsryan

22-04-2009 01:29:45

[quotef54599000d="dubbin87"][quotef54599000d="Zags1199"]Mpell will just respond to your BBB complaints with the UPS/Amazon analogy. And because the BBB is so incompetent, they will close the complaint and mark it as resolved, without giving a chance for your rebuttal.

And that e-mail, especially the last paragraph, is inane and out of line. A course in logic would help Mpell immensely. Did Sylvia or Megan write that? Both seem like incompetent "businesswomen."[/quotef54599000d]

If all of a sudden they are getting 11ty complaints about a company I'm sure they'll look into the matter a bit deeper.



I say write a complaint for each prize. For some that could be 10-20 complaints. lol[/quotef54599000d]

exactly what i was going for. it might sound "premature" for some, but come on. we've been tricked, swindled, conned, and hung out to dry for months with nothing to show for it but anxiety, stress, frustration, and thousands of fronted dollars for merchandise that some of us were not planning on purchasing.

lets stick to the facts

1. on or around january 24th, we all received letters on ways to expedite gift fulfillment through this company, mpell. directions were straight forward and to the point, go out and buy your gift or something of equal value and we will refund that purchase in 8-10 weeks from when your redemption certificate was approved. we discussed this as a community, found it in our best interests to do it (because it was our ONLY choice), and complied.

linote when we tried to call ARG for info, they always directed us to mpell because they were "in control" of the redemption.

2. on or around april 9th. after being told that mpell usually ships checks faster than 8-10 weeks, we found ourselves beginning to exceed the fulfillment window. why? because ARG's shipping department was experiencing huge delays. (interesting in itself how their SHIPPING dept was experiencing delays when mpell was shipping). nevertheless, we were patient and continued to give mpell the benefit of the doubt.

linote now calls to mpell were being directed to ARG because THEY were "in control" of the terms of the redemption.

3. april 21st. after an overextended waiting period (up to 12 weeks for some), and continued promises of "funds being released soon", we pressed hard for more answers. it now seems that ARG has dismissed mpell in its entirety and will be handling fulfillment by themselves again.

linote we are back to square one.

this string of events has undoubtedly impacted some of us financially, especially having to front for our gifts. mpell is a BBB accredited company with an A rating, so we trusted their business ethic. now, we are at the mercy of ARG once again, and mpell is seemingly done with us.

i believe it is time that we express our sentiments, via the BBB, about our experience dealing with mpell. i am not suggesting that anybody fabricate their hardship, but we should be candid and to the point. enough complaints which clearly allude to our exploitation will hopefully raise a red flag with the right people.

if this seems like a futile option, i am open to suggestions. but as of now, all we have been doing is waiting and it has gotten us nowhere. why not be proactive in this situation, and do our duty as consumers to inform others on this ugly process we have endured for quite some time.

krisel13

22-04-2009 04:00:56

Is anyone else not able to log into any of their Brandarama accounts? Neither one of mine work now.

mtomm

22-04-2009 06:39:26

I logged in this morning, no problem and not shipped. LOL

If you call ARG they will get you back in. Many people experience this glitch. It doesn't mean you have disappeared.

imapepper

22-04-2009 06:48:17

At this point its not so much as trying to get my money back for me, but as ohboyitsryan has stated above we have been duped and its more now about stopping these company's from continuing their corrupt practive. If filing a BBB complaint (which I've done against both ARG and mpell) helps this cause then HECK YES FILE AWAY!! These company's should not be in business anymore as far as Im concerned.

And the rude ill conceived responses some are receiving from MPELL are really ridiculous and just go to show you that this reimbursement aint gonna happen in my eyes!

Now time to fast action my payments to Amex for the $1500 dollar TV I bought....it's a good thing I really wanted it and bought exactly what I wanted.....albeit disappointing that I didn't get my reimbursement but it was all just wishful thinking on my part that I actually would.

michae229

22-04-2009 07:05:21

[quotea3ddf0b0eb="mistertomlinson"]I'm not trying to upset anyone or start an argument, but how is filing complaints gonna help? I can't imagine that possibly leading to us receiving what we are owed. I know we've waited long enough, but I just feel these actions are a little premature. I would think this should be a last resort when the majority of us truly believe we got shafted. Right now, I'm not so certain we wont be getting paid. I have my doubts... sure, but I can't say that I have no doubt we wont receive payment. I honestly don't think this is part of some elaborate "plan" to file for bankruptcy. As it's been said before, I'm willing to bet they didn't realize how many people would redeem their cashback certificates and thought MPell would save them money. Obviously, that didn't happen and they still owe more than they can pay. I'm just worried filing these complaints will do more harm than good and I wouldn't mind giving it more time in hopes that things will work out, no matter how long it takes. I would prefer waiting 2 more years for my money versus receiving nothing at all.[/quotea3ddf0b0eb]

it worked with freepay. also are they still in business?

oleus

22-04-2009 07:38:02

[quotefcdcf1e910="dubbin87"][quotefcdcf1e910="mistertomlinson"]I'm not trying to upset anyone or start an argument, but how is filing complaints gonna help? I can't imagine that possibly leading to us receiving what we are owed. I know we've waited long enough, but I just feel these actions are a little premature. I would think this should be a last resort when the majority of us truly believe we got shafted. Right now, I'm not so certain we wont be getting paid. I have my doubts... sure, but I can't say that I have no doubt we wont receive payment. I honestly don't think this is part of some elaborate "plan" to file for bankruptcy. As it's been said before, I'm willing to bet they didn't realize how many people would redeem their cashback certificates and thought MPell would save them money. Obviously, that didn't happen and they still owe more than they can pay. I'm just worried filing these complaints will do more harm than good and I wouldn't mind giving it more time in hopes that things will work out, no matter how long it takes. I would prefer waiting 2 more years for my money versus receiving nothing at all.[/quotefcdcf1e910]I think most of the people talking about filing complaints have already recieved the DQ notice. Pretty much if you got that you are not getting a dime. As for the rest good luck.[/quotefcdcf1e910]

i filed a bbb complaint and i didn't get a DQ letter. i filed it mainly because Mpell's current stance on the situation is completely unacceptable.

walrus9

22-04-2009 07:39:09

My question is how do you boil this down to 2030 characters required by the BBB. Lots of word-crafting is in order.

FreeOffersNow

22-04-2009 07:56:59

[quotea0efc4772f="dubbin87"]I say write a complaint for each prize. For some that could be 10-20 complaints. lol[/quotea0efc4772f]

FYI Pissing off the people at the BBB office who have to process all of those complaints isn't exactly a good start to the mediation process.

oleus

22-04-2009 07:57:35

[quote11a1a59c5a="walrus9"]My question is how do you boil this down to 2030 characters required by the BBB. Lots of word-crafting is in order.[/quote11a1a59c5a]

hehe yeah it took me 30 min. of editing to get it back in under 2030!

so, does the BBB ever follow up with the author of the complaint? I have the erratic emails from MPell I'd like to show them, as well as the certificate itself that clearly represented MPell as the new caretaker of the gift fulfillments and that this was not an optional program; if you received the letter this was the only way to get the ARG prize.

walrus9

22-04-2009 08:11:58

They do reply to you if it is needed. 45 minutes later I have submitted a BBB report on both Mpell and ARG. I've also e-mailed the CEO and printed off and am dropping in the mail a letter to ARG. We'll see what's next.

ohboyitsryan

22-04-2009 08:34:25

[quote219680e7ea="FreeOffersNow"][quote219680e7ea="dubbin87"]I say write a complaint for each prize. For some that could be 10-20 complaints. lol[/quote219680e7ea]

FYI Pissing off the people at the BBB office who have to process all of those complaints isn't exactly a good start to the mediation process.[/quote219680e7ea]

how is it pissing them off? it's not like we're making this up...will it be overwhelming for them? possibly. but it is still our duty to report abuse just as it is their duty to assess our claims. I wouldn't refrain from reporting a crime in my neighborhood if I felt that my police department was too overwhelemed with issues and would get mad at me for having them do more of their job...

oleus

22-04-2009 08:45:08

[quote1464130210="ohboyitsryan"][quote1464130210="FreeOffersNow"][quote1464130210="dubbin87"]I say write a complaint for each prize. For some that could be 10-20 complaints. lol[/quote1464130210]

FYI Pissing off the people at the BBB office who have to process all of those complaints isn't exactly a good start to the mediation process.[/quote1464130210]

how is it pissing them off? it's not like we're making this up...will it be overwhelming for them? possibly. but it is still our duty to report abuse just as it is their duty to assess our claims. I wouldn't refrain from reporting a crime in my neighborhood if I felt that my police department was too overwhelemed with issues and would get mad at me for having them do more of their job...[/quote1464130210]

just write one complaint, seems like enough people posted one today that it's already going to seem like a lot. no need to do multiple ones from one person, it will seem like piling on to make a point and i would think that would do nothing but damage our chances of the BBB actually doing anything.

fwiw, sylvia never responded back with mpell's corporate address/phone after two requests, and hasn't responded to my last email after the rude one.

mctrask

22-04-2009 08:51:02

Before you send those BBB complaints, do a quick look-up of rebate law in your state. Our "cash-back" certificates qualify under the legal definition of rebate and as such, are subject to your state's laws governing the rebates. By agreeing to do business under the terms specified by ARG, MPell knew (or should have known since they are a fulfillment company) that ARG's terms were in violation of several state's laws. The company also agreed to send out the "cash-back" certificates knowing full well that it did not have the means in the form of funds from ARG to fulfill the rebates for those certificates.

In just the last hour I've been looking into this, I've found three states, Texas, North Carolina and New York which require that a company MUST transfer funds to the consumer within 60 days of receipt of the consumer's properly completed rebate request. Why then, would MPell agree to ARG's terms of an 8-10 week time frame for fulfillment?

Again, as "just a fulfillment company" MPell should have known relevant state law regarding rebate fulfillment. Further, MPell looks to be in violation of the law governing rebates in the state of California where it does business. From the FTC

[quote8c6b85eab5]California and Michigan long have had
laws on the books that forbid a seller from
representing that a consumer will receive a
rebate if earning the rebate is contingent on
a subsequent event.[/quote8c6b85eab5]

In other words, once you've met the T&C governing the offer, you cannot be compelled to agree to additional terms in order to receive your rebate. Included on the MPell "cash-back" certificate was the following requirement

[quote8c6b85eab5]Sign this certificate ([b8c6b85eab5]required[/b8c6b85eab5]). By signing you are agreeing to receive additional offers by email and/or US mail.[/quote8c6b85eab5]

Having to agree to receive spam mail from MPell and/or allowing them to sell our personal information in order to receive the promotion we had already qualified for under ARG's T&C I think would qualify as a "subsequent event."

That's all I have so far. I only started researching this morning and there could be other violations so please research your own state's consumer laws covering rebates. I'll be submitting my BBB complaint as well. If that doesn't move things along, I'll start with a complaint to the FTC against both companies and then move on to the Attorney General. Enough is enough.

Edited to add For those that may argue that this is not a rebate program, look at your MPell certificate. The first line under the heading reads

[quote8c6b85eab5]Your Gift Certificate for Cash-back up to $xxx on your qualifying purchase.[/quote8c6b85eab5]

neverendingmoolah

22-04-2009 08:52:49

[quote097408cf1c="krisel13"]Is anyone else not able to log into any of their Brandarama accounts? Neither one of mine work now.[/quote097408cf1c]
I logged into YTB and Rewards Parade. No problem. No status change either. Still CTS.

ohboyitsryan

22-04-2009 08:54:51

yeah I don't think anyone should file multiple claims...but if you feel violated by your reliance on arg/mpell for fulfillment and reimbursement, you should make one all inclusive claim with nothing but the facts. I'm definitely not suggesting you do this if you don't feel genuinely exploited, but I believe most of us, myself included, feel vicitmized.

oleus

22-04-2009 08:55:09

what a nightmare.

PS i was just thinking, even though we have no idea when ARG is starting the "staggered checks" - if they really have 7000 to send out, it would take 70 weeks if they send out 100 a week.

ohboyitsryan

22-04-2009 09:00:26

[quote7cce528cfc="mctrask"]Before you send those BBB complaints, do a quick look-up of rebate law in your state. Our "cash-back" certificates qualify under the legal definition of rebate and as such, are subject to your state's laws governing the rebates. By agreeing to do business under the terms specified by ARG, MPell knew (or should have known since they are a fulfillment company) that ARG's terms were in violation of several state's laws. The company also agreed to send out the "cash-back" certificates knowing full well that it did not have the means in the form of funds from ARG to fulfill the rebates for those certificates.

In just the last hour I've been looking into this, I've found three states, Texas, North Carolina and New York which require that a company MUST transfer funds to the consumer within 60 days of receipt of the consumer's properly completed rebate request. Why then, would MPell agree to ARG's terms of an 8-10 week time frame for fulfillment?

Again, as "just a fulfillment company" MPell should have known relevant state law regarding rebate fulfillment. Further, MPell looks to be in violation of the law governing rebates in the state of California where it does business. From the FTC

[quote7cce528cfc]California and Michigan long have had
laws on the books that forbid a seller from
representing that a consumer will receive a
rebate if earning the rebate is contingent on
a subsequent event.[/quote7cce528cfc]

In other words, once you've met the T&C governing the offer, you cannot be compelled to agree to additional terms in order to receive your rebate. Included on the MPell "cash-back" certificate was the following requirement

[quote7cce528cfc]Sign this certificate ([b7cce528cfc]required[/b7cce528cfc]. By signing you are agreeing to receive additional offers by email and/or US mail.[/quote7cce528cfc]

Having to agree to receive spam mail from MPell and/or allowing them to sell our personal information in order to receive the promotion we had already qualified for under ARG's T&C I think would qualify as a "subsequent event."

That's all I have so far. I only started researching this morning and there could be other violations so please research your own state's consumer laws covering rebates. I'll be submitting my BBB complaint as well. If that doesn't move things along, I'll start with a complaint to the FTC against both companies and then move on to the Attorney General. Enough is enough.

Edited to add For those that may argue that this is not a rebate program, look at your MPell certificate. The first line under the heading reads

[quote7cce528cfc]Your Gift Certificate for Cash-back up to $xxx on your qualifying purchase.[/quote7cce528cfc][/quote7cce528cfc]

great find. for those yet to file, it might be advantageous to state that you believe that you are in compliance with your respective state laws regarding participation in a rebate program. I work at a law firm, one of the specialties is contract law. I will consult with an associate today to help wordsmith my argument based on the state law.

PS600REVX

22-04-2009 09:05:10

[quote1a301b2537="oleus"]what a nightmare.

PS i was just thinking, even though we have no idea when ARG is starting the "staggered checks" - if they really have 7000 to send out, it would take 70 weeks if they send out 100 a week.[/quote1a301b2537]

100 a week? One person working 3 hours per day could write 100 checks per day. It's a matter of money and that's it, not the work involved in writing checks.

orangejuice

22-04-2009 09:11:25

we should get the new york mob involved with this, that will clear the bs up fast

hawke12

22-04-2009 09:23:56

[quotef6c68ccb79="orangejuice"]we should get the new york mob involved with this, that will clear the bs up fast[/quotef6c68ccb79]

Nahh, get the Russian MOB to DDOS they're servers till everyone gets paid ;)


But seriously, I found this after some digging. It's a different redemption certificate, for a different company MPELL works with I'm assuming.

I'm posting it for comparison's sake with the brandarama/arg certificate.

www.mpellcertificates.com/e-redeem/PdfCert.ashx?certname=tux003

imapepper

22-04-2009 09:29:12

Keeping checking your stauts page....mpell is sending out staggered checks......LMAO....priceless they havent come up with a new tag line yet.

kinneylamb

22-04-2009 09:40:47

[quote2932240a5f="PS600REVX"][quote2932240a5f="oleus"]what a nightmare.

PS i was just thinking, even though we have no idea when ARG is starting the "staggered checks" - if they really have 7000 to send out, it would take 70 weeks if they send out 100 a week.[/quote2932240a5f]

100 a week? One person working 3 hours per day could write 100 checks per day. It's a matter of money and that's it, not the work involved in writing checks.[/quote2932240a5f]
correct. i've been wanting to hear that, or the real reason, for months.

& that certificate is pretty much the one we received from Mpell for ARG.

mctrask

22-04-2009 09:47:27

[quote968eaab933="kinneylamb"][quote968eaab933="PS600REVX"][quote968eaab933="oleus"]what a nightmare.

PS i was just thinking, even though we have no idea when ARG is starting the "staggered checks" - if they really have 7000 to send out, it would take 70 weeks if they send out 100 a week.[/quote968eaab933]

100 a week? One person working 3 hours per day could write 100 checks per day. It's a matter of money and that's it, not the work involved in writing checks.[/quote968eaab933]
correct. i've been wanting to hear that, or the real reason, for months.[/quote968eaab933]

The number of checks would probably be significantly less than 7000 too since a lot of people sent in multiple certificates and were told that they would be combined into one check. That "overwhelming response" dog of an excuse just doesn't bark.

hawke12

22-04-2009 09:47:37

Hell here is the contents of their robot.txt file. Just add the folder names after the domain name to view the contents of that folder, for those that didn't know.

[code18a4415ccc7]User-agent: li
Disallow: /_mm/
Disallow: /_notes/
Disallow: /_baks/
Disallow: /MMWIP/
Disallow: /2ndwind01/
Disallow: /appleipods/
Disallow: /appleipods/
Disallow: /azroomstore01/
Disallow: /azroomstore01/
Disallow: /carchex100/
Disallow: /carchex200/
Disallow: /carchex300/
Disallow: /carchex500/
Disallow: /clearlink01/
Disallow: /clearlink02/
Disallow: /clearlink03/
Disallow: /clearlink04/
Disallow: /compassdpf01/
Disallow: /compassdvd01/
Disallow: /compassflip01/
Disallow: /compassflip30/
Disallow: /compassipod01/
Disallow: /compassipod02/
Disallow: /compassipod03/
Disallow: /compassitunes01/
Disallow: /compassvisa01/
Disallow: /compassvisa02/
Disallow: /dormanex01/
Disallow: /dormanex02/
Disallow: /friartux01/
Disallow: /marloshell02/
Disallow: /marloshell03/
Disallow: /morfurniture01/
Disallow: /nvr01homedepot25/
Disallow: /owaters01/
Disallow: /owaters02/
Disallow: /owatersdemo01/
Disallow: /owatersdemo02/
Disallow: /reputationdefender01/
Disallow: /reputationdefender01/
Disallow: /slumberland01/
Disallow: /slumberland02nano/
Disallow: /slumberland02shuffle/
Disallow: /slumberland03/


User-agent: googlebot
Disallow: li.csi
[/code18a4415ccc7]

No Brandarama/ARG cert folders in there, doesn't necessarily mean anything, but ya never know, just sharing anything and everything possible, maybe to help our cause.

ohboyitsryan

22-04-2009 10:37:30

so has anyone tried calling ARG/Mpell for any additional information?

walrus9

22-04-2009 10:52:19

I called again today. Mpell told me that they aren't responsible for the fulfillment as they only do what ARG tells them and right now that they are going to take care of fulfillment. The lady told me she can't even access our information anymore because it has all been forwarded back to ARG.

ARG? You know the line. Checks will ship, they are being staggered. The rep I talked to didn't know anything about what Mpell told me. She sounded a little confused by that. I informed both companies I was filing a BBB complaint.

manOFice

22-04-2009 10:53:39

[quotea5a144c3c4="manOFice"]brandarama has all our mpell receipt data I think we're gonna get paid by ARG....[/quotea5a144c3c4]

beerman

22-04-2009 10:56:47

The pressure and complaints needs to be directed toward ARG, I decided to write the CEO of Mpell to ask their side of the story, here is what he wrote me (I wrote anonymously). I'm not trying to defend Mpell, I just think the ball is not in thier court anymore....


I find it unfortunate that you are not comfortable providing your name. You (and any ARG customer) are welcome to call Mpell and ask for me and I will happily speak with you.

In our relationship with ARG we are simply a fulfillment house. ARG is responsible for advertising and offer eligibility, we are not, and we have no control over their actions. ARG paid us a fee to ship certificates to their consumers according to their instructions. ARG is 100% responsible for determining when a customer has met the eligibility requirements for the Mpell certificate redemption. Mpell will mail a check to ARG customers when ARG informs us of which customers are eligible to receive their redemption and when ARG provides us with the funds required to fulfill those payments. At this point in time ARG has NOT informed us which customers are eligible to receive checks. Nor has ARG provided us with any funds to fulfill eligible redemptions. At this point in time I can not confidently tell you when this will occur.



I understand that the Mpell customer service reps are re-directing you to ARG customer support. This is at the direct request of ARG. They have asked us to send all customer inquiries to them. The fact is, we do not have any information to provide you beyond what ARG says.



This is the first time that Mpell has ever worked with ARG. We do not have a pre-existing relationship of any type. We have no association with any of their marketing business entities.



We understand that ARG has contacted some customers that redeemed Mpell certificates and has informed them they are not eligible. ARG has not told us which customers they have declined. We did not send out the decline letters and have not even seen a copy of the letter. We do not know why customers were declined as ineligible after ARG requested that we send them a certificate. I can confidently say that Mpell sent out each and every certificate that we were requested to send by ARG. We have provided ARG with a copy of each and every certificate that was sent in to us for redemption.



Mpell Solutions is a BBB accredited company with an A rating. We are very unhappy that our reputation has been tarnished in any way by our fulfillment of this promotion. But let me be very clear, Mpell is not responsible financially, in any way, for the fulfillment of the ARG promotion. Our relationship with ARG is very clear and we can only provide payment for redemptions when instructed by ARG and when the funds are provided by ARG.

I truly wish that I had more information to provide you. We will certainly let you know when we have anything additional to share.

Sincerely,
Oran Thomas

ohboyitsryan

22-04-2009 11:05:53

this is so dumb. brad powers is the new bernie madoff.

neverendingmoolah

22-04-2009 11:13:15

[quote2096d4f7ba="ohboyitsryan"]this is so dumb. brad powers is the new bernie madoff.[/quote2096d4f7ba]

Well if thats the case, may they share the same fate. Wonder how ARG's shareholders would feel about this or do they even have any....

Not sure????

neverendingmoolah

22-04-2009 11:21:45

[quote4129047b12="beerman"]The pressure and complaints needs to be directed toward ARG, I decided to write the CEO of Mpell to ask their side of the story, here is what he wrote me (I wrote anonymously). I'm not trying to defend Mpell, I just think the ball is not in thier court anymore....


I find it unfortunate that you are not comfortable providing your name. You (and any ARG customer) are welcome to call Mpell and ask for me and I will happily speak with you.

In our relationship with ARG we are simply a fulfillment house. ARG is responsible for advertising and offer eligibility, we are not, and we have no control over their actions. ARG paid us a fee to ship certificates to their consumers according to their instructions. ARG is 100% responsible for determining when a customer has met the eligibility requirements for the Mpell certificate redemption. Mpell will mail a check to ARG customers when ARG informs us of which customers are eligible to receive their redemption and when ARG provides us with the funds required to fulfill those payments. At this point in time ARG has NOT informed us which customers are eligible to receive checks. Nor has ARG provided us with any funds to fulfill eligible redemptions. At this point in time I can not confidently tell you when this will occur.



I understand that the Mpell customer service reps are re-directing you to ARG customer support. This is at the direct request of ARG. They have asked us to send all customer inquiries to them. The fact is, we do not have any information to provide you beyond what ARG says.



This is the first time that Mpell has ever worked with ARG. We do not have a pre-existing relationship of any type. We have no association with any of their marketing business entities.



We understand that ARG has contacted some customers that redeemed Mpell certificates and has informed them they are not eligible. ARG has not told us which customers they have declined. We did not send out the decline letters and have not even seen a copy of the letter. We do not know why customers were declined as ineligible after ARG requested that we send them a certificate. I can confidently say that Mpell sent out each and every certificate that we were requested to send by ARG. We have provided ARG with a copy of each and every certificate that was sent in to us for redemption.



Mpell Solutions is a BBB accredited company with an A rating. We are very unhappy that our reputation has been tarnished in any way by our fulfillment of this promotion. But let me be very clear, Mpell is not responsible financially, in any way, for the fulfillment of the ARG promotion. Our relationship with ARG is very clear and we can only provide payment for redemptions when instructed by ARG and when the funds are provided by ARG.

I truly wish that I had more information to provide you. We will certainly let you know when we have anything additional to share.

Sincerely,
Oran Thomas[/quote4129047b12]

According to this Mpell has already been paid by ARG for services rendered. That mean that ARG has no further obligation to Mpell, which means that we are on our own... sigh...

mookieb2

22-04-2009 11:27:47

Just got off the phone with someone from their corporate office. He works in their displays department and claimed to have no knowledge of their customer service. (I recognize that this could be him just putting me on)

He seemed genuinely shocked at what has been happening and when pressed by me saidf he has no clue how the rest of the company operates. I proceeded to call his company cowards (respectfully) in that they can't even man up and give reliable information. That they hide behind a customer service person who has no answers or knowledge.

He took the customer service number and said he would call them and get my complaint and information to someone to do something about it or at least answer it.


I highly doubt all of this, but who knows.

mctrask

22-04-2009 11:28:25

[quote58269c94a9="neverendingmoolah"][quote58269c94a9="ohboyitsryan"]this is so dumb. brad powers is the new bernie madoff.[/quote58269c94a9]

Well if thats the case, may they share the same fate. Wonder how ARG's shareholders would feel about this or do they even have any....

Not sure????[/quote58269c94a9]

Unfortunately, they don't have any...ARG is a privately held company..

Zags1199

22-04-2009 13:00:37

Since the CS line is of no help whatsoever, people might have better luck calling the corporate office.

oleus

22-04-2009 13:17:25

first off, what the Mpell CEO is saying in that email contradicts what Sylvia and her "manager" are forcefully stating as fact - that MPell is no longer involved in any of the fulfillment of the checks.

Also, it's a far cry from the picture painted by both ARG and Mpell CSR's at the time of these certificate mailings. if any of us really thought they were just hired to process our forms i bet less than 10% of us would have gone out and bought items.

Obviously Mpell was used by ARG to create the illusion that they were taking things over to creat a quick resolution for those of us who had been waiting 1.5 years for gifts.

What I don't get is how they can be so shocked that anyone would want to hold them accountable for not receiving anything and having the buck passed to ARG, even if in reality the buck was with ARG all along (i still don't know what to believe there).

PS - just received a flurry of frantic emails from Sylvia requesting my phone number (in BOLD when requesting the number) so she could have her manager explain to me how they were only hired to do "a job".

dubbin87

22-04-2009 13:34:37

[quote1736ff442d="oleus"]

PS - just received a flurry of frantic emails from Sylvia requesting my phone number (in BOLD when requesting the number) [b1736ff442d]so she could have her manager explain to me how they were only hired to do "a job".[/b1736ff442d][/quote1736ff442d]
back peddling???

orangejuice

22-04-2009 13:34:56

sylvia needs to get porked

RolltheStampede

22-04-2009 13:39:54

Yes but part of the Job they were hired to do was to send us reimbursement checks.

not arguing with ya just more fuel to the fire

dougp70

22-04-2009 13:41:44

[quote2b2b4f034f="orangejuice"]sylvia needs to get porked[/quote2b2b4f034f]


I'll do it if it helps me get my money.

Crys2101

22-04-2009 14:41:28

I really don't care what's happening between Mpell and ARG. Mpell sent out the certificate requiring us to spend more money. They should be held responsible for reimbursing us for that money. It's simple. Send us our money and fight it out with ARG. They should double it for putting us through all of this crap.

tp24

22-04-2009 15:00:08

[quote6f0e7c708c="dougp70"][quote6f0e7c708c="orangejuice"]sylvia needs to get porked[/quote6f0e7c708c]


I'll do it if it helps me get my money.[/quote6f0e7c708c]

What if she's really a transexual?

dougp70

22-04-2009 15:02:06

[quote1cc1c6f5fa="tp24"][quote1cc1c6f5fa="dougp70"][quote1cc1c6f5fa="orangejuice"]sylvia needs to get porked[/quote1cc1c6f5fa]


I'll do it if it helps me get my money.[/quote1cc1c6f5fa]

What if she's really a transexual?[/quote1cc1c6f5fa]

Then I guess I'm screwed, literally.

oleus

22-04-2009 15:06:30

[quote0fc776fe45="Crys2101"]I really don't care what's happening between Mpell and ARG. Mpell sent out the certificate requiring us to spend more money. They should be held responsible for reimbursing us for that money. It's simple. Send us our money and fight it out with ARG. They should double it for putting us through all of this crap.[/quote0fc776fe45]

exactly what i've been pleading with them about, but they deny deny deny and now want my phone number (which technically they should have in their records) so one of the managers can explain to me why i am stupid for thinking the 8-10 weeks on their certificates was anything they had any control over.

fanofpurple

22-04-2009 15:15:53

I guess this explains why the Mpell certificates that we all received were on a sheet of white paper - the only logo was on the envelope - an MPell envelope. ARG was planning this all along.

oleus

22-04-2009 15:22:52

[quote68e6dbb151="fanofpurple"]I guess this explains why the Mpell certificates that we all received were on a sheet of white paper - the only logo was on the envelope - an MPell envelope. ARG was planning this all along.[/quote68e6dbb151]

i've been trying for 2 hours to get a live person at brandarama on the phone, no luck. the 877-312-7263 number (same one Mpell is referring people to) is a joke, this really is unbelievable.

baabaablacksheep

22-04-2009 16:02:22

2 ideas

1) Message Brad Powers' 'Friends' on Facebook letting them know what shenanigans Mr. Powers has gotten into.

Link http//www.facebook.com/friends/?id=579502151

2) There was an article published last year by MeetInnovators lauding Brad Powers. In the article, Brad Powers said that one of the reasons why his company is successful is because ARG has "...always been on the forefront of compliance issues and making sure the consumer knows what they get into especially in our incentive-based sites..."

Bringing me into my point Adrian Bye runs MeetInnovators. His website (and email address) is listed below. Maybe a consumer's prospective on the transpired course of events is in order.

http//adrianbye.com/
email= email=info@adrianbye.cominfo@adrianbye.com email=info@adrianbye.cominfo@adrianbye.com/email

livingloud28

22-04-2009 16:04:10

Ok they seriously suck first off they claimed they did not get my forms for my other gifts now this mess give me a break

ohboyitsryan

22-04-2009 16:30:12

[quote12c8d7f807="baabaablacksheep"]2 ideas

1) Message Brad Powers' 'Friends' on Facebook letting them know what shenanigans Mr. Powers has gotten into.

Link http//www.facebook.com/friends/?id=579502151

2) There was an article published last year by MeetInnovators lauding Brad Powers. In the article, Brad Powers said that one of the reasons why his company is successful is because ARG has "...always been on the forefront of compliance issues and making sure the consumer knows what they get into especially in our incentive-based sites..."

Bringing me into my point Adrian Bye runs MeetInnovators. His website (and email address) is listed below. Maybe a consumer's prospective on the transpired course of events is in order.

http//adrianbye.com/
email= email=info@adrianbye.cominfo@adrianbye.com email=info@adrianbye.cominfo@adrianbye.com/email[/quote12c8d7f807]

I like this. it's creative and extreme. you should follow up with this idea and execute it, since it's your brainchild. let us know how it goes. I wish someone had a connection in the media. would be nice to get this crook exposed on dateline nbc...

bennyboy5768

22-04-2009 17:43:46

What we need is someone to brute force http//cs.brandarama.com[]http//cs.brandarama.com. Maybe then we will get some answers.

orangejuice

22-04-2009 19:15:54

hmm ill file up john the ripper and see if i get anywhere

kinneylamb

22-04-2009 19:37:46

"Mpell will mail a check to ARG customers when ARG informs us of which customers are eligible to receive their redemption and when ARG provides us with the funds required to fulfill those payments. At this point in time ARG has NOT informed us which customers are eligible to receive checks. Nor has ARG provided us with any funds to fulfill eligible redemptions. At this point in time I can not confidently tell you when this will occur."

so.. could they still be doing the audit process, or something, hence the reason for the delay and the staggered checks. and mpell's customer service reps were out of the loop or incorrectly described ARG as "taking over the fulfillment" (words we did not want to hear)? i figure the CEO knows what he's talking about, just throwing that out there.

wes

22-04-2009 19:51:41

I have zero hope at this point. I wish my friend never got me involved with this crap the end of September 2007.

suburbangirl

22-04-2009 20:33:16

I emailed brandarama. I've been told twice that my email was sent to management. I haven't received any response.

Zags1199

22-04-2009 21:26:22

I wouldn't expect one, either. I've been told that numerous times, and nothing has happened.

hawke12

23-04-2009 04:53:36

[quote0c759de54e="ohboyitsryan"]
I like this. it's creative and extreme. you should follow up with this idea and execute it, since it's your brainchild. let us know how it goes. I wish someone had a connection in the media. would be nice to get this crook exposed on dateline nbc...[/quote0c759de54e]

Lets start taking this PrimeTime )

[code10c759de54e]
CNN: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/

FoxNews: email==newsmanager@foxnews.comnewsmanager@foxnews.com=newsmanager@foxnews.comnewsmanager@foxnews.com/email

ABC NightLine: http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3428117

NBC NIghtly News: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29104230/

CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml?tag=footer;footerSite
[/code10c759de54e]

There might be a better chance if a major news network starts to investigate and bring it to the general public.

Especially when they made us fork out money to b uy stuff we didn't need in the current Recession we're in.

One of the networks is bound to listen, if they get enough Calls/Emails about it.

freeipodplayer

23-04-2009 09:37:19

Thank you for all that info, I am doing my BBB and AG stuff tonight, I will copy and paste to all those as well.

suburbangirl

23-04-2009 09:43:36

The Federal Trade Commission also has a consumer protection division.

orangejuice

23-04-2009 14:15:34

just sent in my complaint to AG and FTC. Will get the FBI's internet fraud complaint out tomorrow as well

oleus

23-04-2009 14:30:37

anyone heard from mpell in the last 48 hours?

sunshine101

23-04-2009 14:57:06

I just talked to MPell....They said that ARG has decided to no longer use their services and have taken over all aspects of the promotion. I guess ALL customers must be referred to ARG's CR line @ 877-312-7263

hello aren't we all so lame and dumb to even spend all our $$ and even try to fulfill it, being that we've already waited sooo long.

But I do understand, it's really not Mpell's fault..they were technically HIRED by ARG to their job of just processing our paperwork.

it's ARG who needs to man up ASAP.

dubbin87

23-04-2009 15:20:32

[quote5f8e9a4eb1="sunshine101"]I just talked to MPell....They said that ARG has decided to no longer use their services and have taken over all aspects of the promotion. I guess ALL customers must be referred to ARG's CR line @ 877-312-7263

hello aren't we all so lame and dumb to even spend all our $$ and even try to fulfill it, being that we've already waited sooo long.

But I do understand, it's really not Mpell's fault..they were technically HIRED by ARG to their job of just processing our paperwork.

it's ARG who needs to man up ASAP.[/quote5f8e9a4eb1]

intresting.

hire a compnay telling us we need to spend money, spend money, get DQ'd, then stop using company..

ashilef

23-04-2009 15:32:32

Hmm, well I seriously doubt anybody will be getting anything at this point. I don't care if that's being negative it's the truth and ya'll know it. I'm done with this shit!

ohboyitsryan

23-04-2009 15:35:41

[quotedf9052d790="ashilef"]Hmm, well I seriously doubt anybody will be getting anything at this point. I don't care if that's being negative it's the truth and ya'll know it. I'm done with this shit![/quotedf9052d790]

side note - have you delivered yet?

ashilef

23-04-2009 15:39:14

[quote0d9188d117="ohboyitsryan"][quote0d9188d117="ashilef"]Hmm, well I seriously doubt anybody will be getting anything at this point. I don't care if that's being negative it's the truth and ya'll know it. I'm done with this shit![/quote0d9188d117]

side note - have you delivered yet?[/quote0d9188d117]

Nope, 34 wks and irritated, but more so with this crap then being pregnant.

manOFice

23-04-2009 17:25:07

[quotec203c12de0="sunshine101"]I just talked to MPell....They said that ARG has decided to no longer use their services and have taken over all aspects of the promotion. I guess ALL customers must be referred to ARG's CR line @ 877-312-7263

hello aren't we all so lame and dumb to even spend all our $$ and even try to fulfill it, being that we've already waited sooo long.

But I do understand, it's really not Mpell's fault..they were technically HIRED by ARG to their job of just processing our paperwork.

it's ARG who needs to man up ASAP.[/quotec203c12de0]

WHEN we get our money it will be in the amount of mpells certs that you spent. Mpell sent all our cert information that we sent in for redemption to ARG. So you will get the money that you redeemed your certs for. If you didn't do the mpell paperwork you won't get paid I think

beerman

23-04-2009 17:33:59

Ladies and gents, I got an update from Mpell's CEO. He has been very open with me and unfortunately ARG is done working with MPell. MPell is officially out of the picture.....


We were informed today by ARG that our services would not be utilized in any further capacity. ARG will be handling all redemptions associated with the certificates they had us send to their customers and all associated support issues.

We were provided the attached letter and told that ARG would be distributing this letter to their customers in the near future.

I personally find the current circumstances that you and the other ARG customers find yourselves very unfortunate. Mpell was paid a very small fee to send out and collect certificates for ARG. We provided this service in a very professional and courteous manor – as we do all of the services that we perform for our clients. Anybody that believes that Mpell is somehow financially responsible for any of ARG’s financial obligations is mistaken. Not only are we not responsible, but by NO means do we have the financial resources required to fulfill even a small part of this obligation.

I sincerely hope that your issues are resolved quickly and favorably.

As I stated yesterday, any ARG customer is welcome to call Mpell and ask for me. If available, I will take the call immediately.

Sincerely,
Oran Thomas

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mistertomlinson

23-04-2009 17:44:24

Ouchies. Wow, this is really something.

Gatorade

23-04-2009 17:45:25

FML.

ashilef

23-04-2009 17:46:45

Wow...

Crys2101

23-04-2009 17:50:44

I'm sure there are people like me who completed one site. I didn't repeat any of the offers I did for the $1000 visa on other networks. Why is my money being held because of their audits? Stop stringing us along!

bogey523

23-04-2009 17:58:02

Same here. Just waiting on $500. Bummer. Purchased a gift like I was supposed to, and now waiting since November 07. Fun.

oleus

23-04-2009 18:01:23

just got the same letter from Mpell, was about to post it here. guess they are re-auditing everyone. this could take forever!!

the language in the letter makes me wonder if they are looking at the legitamacy of receipts as well as the terms...

suburbangirl

23-04-2009 18:05:22

How can they look at the legitimacy of the receipts? They can't really get any info from the merchant regarding the transaction.

ghounds07

23-04-2009 18:06:58

Haha, I'm glad so many people called Mpell solutions and haggled the CS that they had to include in the letter not to contact Mpell anymore. Well done everyone.

And I kinda feel bad for Mpell's CEO, but I just sent him an email telling him he needs to fix the way his company deals with these CB programs...

oleus

23-04-2009 18:10:29

[quote06feb5a870="suburbangirl"]How can they look at the legitimacy of the receipts? They can't really get any info from the merchant regarding the transaction.[/quote06feb5a870]

well they mentioned "fraudulent transactions", that doesn't sound like they are talking about audits for violations of terms of service. maybe they are and it just got stated that way, i don't know, but i hope ARG gets the ball rolling sooner than later. i have zero faith that will happen, but i can dream.

PS - that letter is probably the response to any BBB complaint filed.

mctrask

23-04-2009 18:11:39

[quote315a425f8e="beerman"]Ladies and gents, I got an update from Mpell's CEO. He has been very open with me and unfortunately ARG is done working with MPell. MPell is officially out of the picture.....


We were informed today by ARG that our services would not be utilized in any further capacity. ARG will be handling all redemptions associated with the certificates they had us send to their customers and all associated support issues.

We were provided the attached letter and told that ARG would be distributing this letter to their customers in the near future.

I personally find the current circumstances that you and the other ARG customers find yourselves very unfortunate. Mpell was paid a very small fee to send out and collect certificates for ARG. We provided this service in a very professional and courteous manor – as we do all of the services that we perform for our clients. Anybody that believes that Mpell is somehow financially responsible for any of ARG’s financial obligations is mistaken. Not only are we not responsible, but by NO means do we have the financial resources required to fulfill even a small part of this obligation.

I sincerely hope that your issues are resolved quickly and favorably.

As I stated yesterday, any ARG customer is welcome to call Mpell and ask for me. If available, I will take the call immediately.

Sincerely,
Oran Thomas[/quote315a425f8e]

Now that Orin is your new BFF, do you think you can get him to tell you a ballpark figure on the total value of the certificates they processed for ARG?

PS600REVX

23-04-2009 18:11:52

of course this is simply a way to keep delaying and nothing more.

kinneylamb

23-04-2009 18:16:18

what in the world is going on in here now?

dubbin87

23-04-2009 18:25:35

LMAO!!

This gets better by the day.

ghounds07

23-04-2009 18:26:09

[quoted7922b3303="mctrask"][quoted7922b3303="beerman"]Ladies and gents, I got an update from Mpell's CEO. He has been very open with me and unfortunately ARG is done working with MPell. MPell is officially out of the picture.....


We were informed today by ARG that our services would not be utilized in any further capacity. ARG will be handling all redemptions associated with the certificates they had us send to their customers and all associated support issues.

We were provided the attached letter and told that ARG would be distributing this letter to their customers in the near future.

I personally find the current circumstances that you and the other ARG customers find yourselves very unfortunate. Mpell was paid a very small fee to send out and collect certificates for ARG. We provided this service in a very professional and courteous manor – as we do all of the services that we perform for our clients. Anybody that believes that Mpell is somehow financially responsible for any of ARG’s financial obligations is mistaken. Not only are we not responsible, but by NO means do we have the financial resources required to fulfill even a small part of this obligation.

I sincerely hope that your issues are resolved quickly and favorably.

As I stated yesterday, any ARG customer is welcome to call Mpell and ask for me. If available, I will take the call immediately.

Sincerely,
Oran Thomas[/quoted7922b3303]

Now that Orin is your new BFF, do you think you can get him to tell you a ballpark figure on the total value of the certificates they processed for ARG?[/quoted7922b3303]

Doubt they could give away financial information like that...

oleus

23-04-2009 18:28:01

so i guess we should expect a second wave of audit letters soon.


Bump in the Road '09 is a hell of a thing....

kinneylamb

23-04-2009 18:28:13

some people probably made up a receipt using microsoft word, or some other fake methods.

i want to buy a round of tequila for everyone on this forum. this is enough, this is ridiculous.

wozniack

23-04-2009 18:35:22

[quote6a24d438ac="kinneylamb"]some people probably made up a receipt using microsoft word, or some other fake methods.

i want to buy a round of tequila for everyone on this forum. this is enough, this is ridiculous.[/quote6a24d438ac]
start with me. lihands shotglass to kinneylambli

time to get plastered because of Brandarama, lmao. wink

ashilef

23-04-2009 18:49:26

[quote6aa89aef96="kinneylamb"]some people probably made up a receipt using microsoft word, or some other fake methods.

i want to buy a round of tequila for everyone on this forum. this is enough, this is ridiculous.[/quote6aa89aef96]

Boo, no fair I can't have any, lol

desertwilite

23-04-2009 18:54:49

[quote3962d78fb1="kinneylamb"]some people probably made up a receipt using microsoft word, or some other fake methods.

i want to buy a round of tequila for everyone on this forum. this is enough, this is ridiculous.[/quote3962d78fb1]

Oh ye, You rock. I already got started, but you are welcome to come over and fill my shot glass!!!! lol

kinneylamb

23-04-2009 18:55:59

[quote5de14dd91a="ashilef"][quote5de14dd91a="kinneylamb"]some people probably made up a receipt using microsoft word, or some other fake methods.

i want to buy a round of tequila for everyone on this forum. this is enough, this is ridiculous.[/quote5de14dd91a]

Boo, no fair I can't have any, lol[/quote5de14dd91a]
you get extra after the pregancy is over. when your baby turns 21, he/she gets tequila for having to go through this as well.

oleus

23-04-2009 18:56:07

i bet people with legit receipts start getting audited...like people who bought online items and sent email invoices, etc.

one important question - if Mpell was hired to process and approve our certificates, why weren't they allowed to finish the job!!!!?????

slambam

23-04-2009 19:03:39

These douchebags can lick my fuckin hairy nutsack.

hawke12

23-04-2009 19:22:44

[quote6571843381="kinneylamb"]
when your baby turns 21, he/she gets tequila for having to go through this as well.[/quote6571843381]

Yeah we'll probably still be waiting on our payments.....

wes

23-04-2009 19:29:12

[quotec72c3bc8f2="slambam"]These douchebags can lick my fuckin hairy nutsack.[/quotec72c3bc8f2]

QFT

dubbin87

23-04-2009 19:29:59

[quote4003722172="oleus"]

one important question - if Mpell was hired to process and approve our certificates, why weren't they allowed to finish the job!!!!?????[/quote4003722172]

becasue that process didn't weed out 98% of the people.

ashilef

23-04-2009 19:30:37

[quoteadfb78ac81="hawke12"][quoteadfb78ac81="kinneylamb"]
when your baby turns 21, he/she gets tequila for having to go through this as well.[/quoteadfb78ac81]

Yeah we'll probably still be waiting on our payments.....[/quoteadfb78ac81]

sho'nuff

bruman

23-04-2009 19:55:59

Finally we get some kind of statement from ARG. Thanks for posting beerman.
I'm still optimistic that we'll (eventually) get paid. I'm not going to file any complaints, that'll probably hurt more than it helps right now. It's still only April.. i'll just wait and see what happens.

DRay9911

23-04-2009 20:04:21

so, what's new?

-dan

orangejuice

23-04-2009 20:06:34

i think a lot of ppl are going to be screwed now

kinneylamb

23-04-2009 20:26:27

you mean receipt-fakers? or who?

Stkfree1

23-04-2009 20:45:00

[quote54ea0c556b="kinneylamb"]you mean receipt-fakers? or who?[/quote54ea0c556b]

I believe if any of the large corporations that we bought from (WalMart, Target, BestBuy, Costco, etc.) started revealing customer information, they'd be setting themselves up for a lot of trouble.

The only other possible way that the information could be revealed is if ARG did some shady shit (like call up the companies acting like they were one of us).

mistertomlinson

23-04-2009 20:52:05

[quote9981361957="bruman"]Finally we get some kind of statement from ARG. Thanks for posting beerman.
I'm still optimistic that we'll (eventually) get paid. I'm not going to file any complaints, that'll probably hurt more than it helps right now. It's still only April.. i'll just wait and see what happens.[/quote9981361957]

x 2

Seriously, ARG is going through A LOT of shit to not pay anyone. If they were not gonna pay, they wouldn't have gone this far. They would have filed for bankruptcy or what have you a long time ago... they wouldn't be grasping at straws to eliminate as many payments as possible. I'm not saying it's fair because I surely think they are going too far. I think there may be a few more waves of violations until they have found every possible excuse to get rid of as many accounts as possible... THEN, I believe payments will go out, though slowly. Just my interpretation of the situation.

orangejuice

23-04-2009 20:54:12

does anyone actually think that brand knew about people repeating offers under different emails before, or just started noticing that now? i wouldnt be surprised if they just started noticing. morons..

mistertomlinson

23-04-2009 20:59:26

[quote9b34d8262a="orangejuice"]does anyone actually think that brand knew about people repeating offers under different emails before, or just started noticing that now? i wouldnt be surprised if they just started noticing. morons..[/quote9b34d8262a]

I think they've known all along, but only realized they could get away with DQ'ing for such offenses now that they are in such a hole. Again, they're grasping at straws.

kinneylamb

23-04-2009 21:31:22

i think brandarama terminated their relationship with mpell when they realized they were going to need to look at all the certificates and receipts themselves anyway.

i dont think it ever crossed brandarama's mind about people repeating offers. it literally looks like they just figured out a way to have fraud prevention, or else they would have had that in place a long time ago.

freeipodplayer

23-04-2009 21:36:13

Not even surprised.

Cromwell44

23-04-2009 22:17:11

I had always held onto the hope that we would eventually get our money. Now count me as one of the people that believes we will never see a penny. I hope I am wrong, but this is unreal.

JANGALANG32

23-04-2009 22:37:33

BREAKING NEWS IF YOU DIDNT RECEIVE A AUDIT LETTER PRETEND LIKE YOU DID BECAUSE NOBODY IS GETTING AYTHING. WORSE CASE SCENARIO I WILL SEND ARG A 1099C FOR NOT PAYING ME MY MONEY. I CAN USE EVERY TAX WRITE OFF I CAN

dubbin87

24-04-2009 01:25:47

[quote9a23f011e2="orangejuice"]does anyone actually think that brand knew about people repeating offers under different emails before, or just started noticing that now? i wouldnt be surprised if they just started noticing. morons..[/quote9a23f011e2]
If people repeated, ARG still saw some money coming in, so I doubt they gave a fuck.




[quote9a23f011e2="kinneylamb"]i think brandarama terminated their relationship with mpell when they realized they were going to need to look at all the certificates and receipts themselves anyway.
.[/quote9a23f011e2]

I think Mpell spoke up and told ARG that they didn't want to deal with them anymore seeing that a shit storrm was going to be coming down the line.

edgespeeder04

24-04-2009 05:35:57

Just sent the cs for ARG an email now, haggling them, recommend you all do the same..........because this a joke.......maybe if we fill their inbox they might actually give us a decent response

Crizo

24-04-2009 06:47:46

Let's be blunt the reason the MPell CEO is being so adamant about their not being responsible in this whole mess is because they allowed themselves to be extremely exposed.

A very strong legal argument can be made that they assisted ARG in perpetrating a massive fraud on their customers, unwittingly or not. They are absolutely in position to be financial liable. What really pushes this argument over the top is the simple fact that the language used was that this was now a reimbursement and we had to go out and purchase something.

MPell is going to go to the wall claiming they aren't liable simply because they've placed themselves in such a poor legal position. In short, simply because MPell can claim ARG defrauded them doesn't automatically transfer all culpability to ARG. They participated in defrauding us and have recourse against both ARG and MPell.

RyanG

24-04-2009 06:53:15

Audits, rnd 2. Fight!

neverendingmoolah

24-04-2009 07:06:50

Not to be pointing fingers but everyone knows that these people lurk the forums. During this whole redemption process there were far too many blatant and outright claims of receipt/purchase fraud. I mean people were literally posting what they were doing, whether it was legit or not. Consequently, this gave ARG more ammo not to pay up. Common sense, if you wanted to be paid by any means necessary then you should not have exposed yourself, and everyone else to being Audited. We had to wait 18 mos. to even get a rise out of ARG for fulfillment. They have been stalling us all along and it is clear they will use whatever excuse they could legally not to pay up. Unfortunatley, this has added more fuel to the fire.

While on a positive note, they cannot legally disavow anyone who has met the requirements legitimately. They will try to get out of paying any and all who did not.

And, The Saga Continues.....

skinnyhoops

24-04-2009 07:58:35

Well said, I was thinking the same thing. This is the internet and every forum/post can be found through a search engine. I never like to wish bad upon anyone, but those that tried to loophole the system may get what they deserve. As for the honest customers, I guess we're stuck on a ship out in the water for now.

[quote8f307f8def="neverendingmoolah"]Not to be pointing fingers but everyone knows that these people lurk the forums. During this whole redemption process there were far too many blatant and outright claims of receipt/purchase fraud. I mean people were literally posting what they were doing, whether it was legit or not. Consequently, this gave ARG more ammo not to pay up. Common sense, if you wanted to be paid by any means necessary then you should not have exposed yourself, and everyone else to being Audited. We had to wait 18 mos. to even get a rise out of ARG for fulfillment. They have been stalling us all along and it is clear they will use whatever excuse they could legally not to pay up. Unfortunatley, this has added more fuel to the fire.

While on a positive note, they cannot legally disavow anyone who has met the requirements legitimately. They will try to get out of paying any and all who did not.

And, The Saga Continues.....[/quote8f307f8def]

RolltheStampede

24-04-2009 08:23:13

[quote87fe8f89fa="skinnyhoops"]stuck on a ship out in the water for now.
[/quote87fe8f89fa]

Ship? No you mean a Boat.
"I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat, take a good hard look cause im standin on a boat"

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU

oleus

24-04-2009 09:06:51

either they relly do have a lot of fishy certificates to try and weed through, or this is a pathetic act of desperation to screw those of us who played by the rules out of receiving anything.

maybe they just can't believe so many of us went out and took part in the new "mpell program", a program that mpell was so easily able to squirrel their way out of.

neverendingmoolah

24-04-2009 09:27:15

[quote4be9499461="oleus"]either they relly do have a lot of fishy certificates to try and weed through, or this is a pathetic act of desperation to screw those of us who played by the rules out of receiving anything.

maybe they just can't believe so many of us went out and took part in the new "mpell program", a program that mpell was so easily able to squirrel their way out of.[/quote4be9499461]

Its really pathetic because this does not lend to any credibility we might have in Court (as a community) to appear as though we have "clean hands." ARG changing the rules as we go along, makes them look totally discredible. They recently changed their fulfillment process to include Mpell as a means to an end. They even went as far as posting this new process on the website. Now for them to change it makes them look "shady as hell......" However, they are using loopholes to their advantage and we gave them one when posts were made to the effect that our community was participating in fraud. Anyone who made such a post I urge you to EDIT anything and everything you posted that might elude to fraudulent activity on your part. At the end of the day, let ARG be the one who appears to not have "clean hands for any accusations they may lodge against us, and in the spirit of one -- FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!!!!!!

Thank you very much.
)

kinneylamb

24-04-2009 09:41:16

[quote3eb98bb2d9="kinneylamb"]i think brandarama terminated their relationship with mpell when they realized they were going to need to look at all the certificates and receipts themselves anyway.[/quote3eb98bb2d9]
[quote3eb98bb2d9="dubbin87"]
I think Mpell spoke up and told ARG that they didn't want to deal with them anymore seeing that a shit storrm was going to be coming down the line.[/quote3eb98bb2d9]
both of these sound true.

oleus

24-04-2009 09:42:50

i haven't filed an ARG BBB complaint yet, just Mpell. Wondering if it's even worth the effort at this point considering the new audits.

orangejuice

24-04-2009 09:46:38

its obvious brand doesnt have the money. they are prob using credit cards to stay afloat for all we know

RolltheStampede

24-04-2009 09:47:08

well they got a little bit they are still sending small checks

nousername

24-04-2009 09:55:47

[quote9abffcd5c5="RolltheStampede"]well they got a little bit they are still sending small checks[/quote9abffcd5c5]

All they can afford to pay out right now is whatever 12 cases of Dr Pepper soda cost.

mistertomlinson

24-04-2009 10:13:52

[quote93ab3e83f2="RolltheStampede"][quote93ab3e83f2="skinnyhoops"]stuck on a ship out in the water for now.
[/quote93ab3e83f2]

Ship? No you mean a Boat.
"I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat, take a good hard look cause im standin on a boat"

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU[/quote93ab3e83f2]

BUAHAHAHAHAHA! I love that video/song. I actually got that whole album on my iPod. "Jizz in My Pants" is also hilarious.

"Don't tell your friends or I'll say you're a slut... plus, it's your fault. You were rubbin' my butt."

RolltheStampede

24-04-2009 10:24:01

Yeah I bought the CD from amazon a few days ago, Kind of sad they didnt have that video on there though, had some others

prizejunkie

24-04-2009 10:46:30

i want my money you deutch bags, i need to pay for this macbook!

oleus

24-04-2009 10:48:21

[quote2462a464e5="RolltheStampede"]Yeah I bought the CD from amazon a few days ago, Kind of sad they didnt have that video on there though, had some others[/quote2462a464e5]

did UPS do the job they were hired to do and simply deliver it to you?

dougp70

24-04-2009 11:27:14

another response from them.....

Thank you for contacting us.

Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out by us. Watch your status page page for updates. Once it is sent it will say this on your status page.


Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
USASurveyGroup Member Support

LucaBella

24-04-2009 11:51:32

[quote3dbfbce096="neverendingmoolah"]Not to be pointing fingers but everyone knows that these people lurk the forums. During this whole redemption process there were far too many blatant and outright claims of receipt/purchase fraud. I mean people were literally posting what they were doing, whether it was legit or not. Consequently, this gave ARG more ammo not to pay up. Common sense, if you wanted to be paid by any means necessary then you should not have exposed yourself, and everyone else to being Audited. We had to wait 18 mos. to even get a rise out of ARG for fulfillment. They have been stalling us all along and it is clear they will use whatever excuse they could legally not to pay up. Unfortunatley, this has added more fuel to the fire.

While on a positive note, they cannot legally disavow anyone who has met the requirements legitimately. They will try to get out of paying any and all who did not.

And, The Saga Continues.....[/quote3dbfbce096]

I hate blaming the victim. Brandarama has shown themselves time and time again to be thieves, liars, and deadbeats, it doesn't matter what people were doing, brandarama isn't paying ANYONE, therefore all blame lies squarely with them, and not us. I have cousins who did 1 site, bought their gift, mailed in their forms, and still of course have nothing. Not everyone's a crook, but even if we all were, it wouldn't justify brandarama's broke-ass actions.

If they didn't have money, the rebate program was fucking ridiculous.

zr2152

24-04-2009 12:13:56

You know Brandarama could handle this in a much more simple fashion. All they have to do is contact their affiliates and see what completed offer were not paid for by the companies advertising their product.

Brandarama could then weed out those people and send checks to those who had their leads paid for. No need for them to suddenly say that there is a 2 month cancellation rule and all that bullshit.

Whatever though, I wish u guys the best.

oleus

24-04-2009 12:26:23

[quote451fdbf722="dougp70"]another response from them.....

Thank you for contacting us.

Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out by us. Watch your status page page for updates. Once it is sent it will say this on your status page.


Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
USASurveyGroup Member Support[/quote451fdbf722]

Wow, they're really starting to get more specific and give us more information!!!!!!!!! I have never read an email response like that from them.
roll

RolltheStampede

24-04-2009 12:34:04

[quote8e996a2135="oleus"][quote8e996a2135="RolltheStampede"]Yeah I bought the CD from amazon a few days ago, Kind of sad they didnt have that video on there though, had some others[/quote8e996a2135]

did UPS do the job they were hired to do and simply deliver it to you?[/quote8e996a2135]

actually they left it outside with noone to sign for it roll

[quote8e996a2135="zr2152"]You know Brandarama could handle this in a much more simple fashion. All they have to do is contact their affiliates and see what completed offer were not paid for by the companies advertising their product.

Brandarama could then weed out those people and send checks to those who had their leads paid for. No need for them to suddenly say that there is a 2 month cancellation rule and all that bullshit.

Whatever though, I wish u guys the best.[/quote8e996a2135]


"Hello, yes im calling from ARG, i was wondering if you had information on an offer that was done in 2007..... whats that you dont have records that far....... oh okay well thank you.... what is that why didnt we ask for it back in 2007, u well see the problem is that... uh you are breaking up... sorry i cant hear you... liclickli"

neverendingmoolah

24-04-2009 12:35:35

I hate blaming the victim. Brandarama has shown themselves time and time again to be thieves, liars, and deadbeats, it doesn't matter what people were doing, brandarama isn't paying ANYONE, therefore all blame lies squarely with them, and not us. I have cousins who did 1 site, bought their gift, mailed in their forms, and still of course have nothing. Not everyone's a crook, but even if we all were, it wouldn't justify brandarama's broke-ass actions.

If they didn't have money, the rebate program was fucking ridiculous.


I am in no way blaming the victim and I agree with you that Brandarama's behavior has not been above board. However, by announcing on the forums that you intend to fraud them, by posting details of the act, did not help either. It's one thing to do it, but another to actually make a public statement about it. Do you know what I mean? As far as I'm concerned, ARG is the ENEMY, and we cant win if we are to arm the enemy, which basically is what was done by making a public display here.

Again I think that anyone who has made mention of participating in any fraud go back and edit those posts, if its not too late already.

JANGALANG32

24-04-2009 12:43:24

what are you talking about? mpell said they only wanted to see a receipt and they didnt care what we did with the purchase after. why do people defend brandarama's unwritten/newly created rules? this is a joke if they're looking into the receipts and you're a joke if you actually went out and bought things without the intent to return it. fronting money because a company that is years behind on payment said to is idiotic.

mistertomlinson

24-04-2009 12:50:44

[quotede770b42ec="JANGALANG32"]what are you talking about? mpell said they only wanted to see a receipt and they didnt care what we did with the purchase after. why do people defend brandarama's unwritten/newly created rules? this is a joke if they're looking into the receipts and you're a joke if you actually went out and bought things without the intent to return it. fronting money because a company that is years behind on payment said to is idiotic.[/quotede770b42ec]

One of the most intelligent things I've read in PAGES and I couldn't agree more.

walrus9

24-04-2009 13:10:36

Got this from the Better Business Bureau regarding Mpell.

Dear xxxx xxxx

This message is in regard to your complaint submitted on 4/22/2009 120000 AM against Mpell Solutions, LLC. Your complaint was assigned ID xxxxxxxx.

Unfortunately, we are unable to pursue your complaint. The BBB does not handle complaints about the following

li

According to information provided by MPell Solutons Inc, it appears your dispute is with Active Response Group (ARG) as Mpell Solutions is the fulfillment center, but not ultimately responsible for your rebate. Please see the attached letter that will be sent by ARG regarding your claim. If you would like to file a complaint against ARG please contact the BBB indicated below



BBB Name


Better Business Bureau Serving Metropolitan New York

Address


257 Park Avenue South
New York NY, 10010-7384

Web Address


http//www.newyork.bbb.org

Region/Area


Northeast (NEW YORK CITY)

Email(s)


email==inquiry@newyork.bbb.orginquiry@newyork.bbb.org=inquiry@newyork.bbb.orginquiry@newyork.bbb.org/email (General)

Phone Number(s)


(212) 533-6200 (Public Line)

(212) 477-4912 (Fax Line)

The Bureau regrets that we are unable to assist you any further. If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Regards,

xxxxx xxxxxxx
The Better Business Bureau

They also attached the letter that was posted recently from ARG. I've called and left a message to the BBB rep to try and push this further since it is shady for Mpell to try and back away from responsibility when many of us went ahead with the cashback program because their name is on it.

krazikorean

24-04-2009 13:11:32

wow. i am just amazed at this. brandarama needs to fix their system. I hope they go bankrupt. I could care less of the money now. I mean if i get it, its just a bonus now. No more easy way of getting stuff anymore.

dubbin87

24-04-2009 13:16:28

[quotedf9ce1fc1d="JANGALANG32"]what are you talking about? mpell said they only wanted to see a receipt and they didnt care what we did with the purchase after. why do people defend brandarama's unwritten/newly created rules? this is a joke if they're looking into the receipts and you're a joke if you actually went out and bought things without the intent to return it. fronting money because a company that is years behind on payment said to is idiotic.[/quotedf9ce1fc1d]

Which is prob another reason why ARG and Mpell are no longer doing business. The whole name of this game is for people to not completly follow through with getting thier prizes. ARG banks on people getting tied up through all the hoops and give up. When Mpell tells you that they don't give a shit about how you got the reciept just send us something, that is not going to sit well with ARG trying to make a buck.

kinneylamb

24-04-2009 14:45:24

still dont understand why ARG is looking at our certificates and receipts. we were approved a year ago + and now they're trying to make sure our receipts are legit? please. i can see if there's suspicious multiple accounts, and repeating offers, but this is stupid.

oleus

24-04-2009 14:56:45

[quote0673081232="kinneylamb"]still dont understand why ARG is looking at our certificates and receipts. we were approved a year ago + and now they're trying to make sure our receipts are legit? please. i can see if there's suspicious multiple accounts, and repeating offers, but this is stupid.[/quote0673081232]

To be fair, i was speculating by the language in the new ARG letter that this was what they are doing. As far as I know ARG hasn't actually said they are looking at receipts - it's a logical conclusion looking at that letter but we are not dealing with logical people, or at least not honest people.

For all we know they are combing through looking for ANY repeated offers, emails, etc, or looking at receipts - probably both.

And if they start sending out DQ letters for legitamite receipts, then the whole process of answering the DQ letter, waiting for a response, etc, will just make this process longer.

They'll probably try and DQ a bunch of legit people just so the appeal process eats up some time.

dubbin87

24-04-2009 15:12:02

[quotec02a2b0a22="oleus"][quotec02a2b0a22="kinneylamb"]still dont understand why ARG is looking at our certificates and receipts. we were approved a year ago + and now they're trying to make sure our receipts are legit? please. i can see if there's suspicious multiple accounts, and repeating offers, but this is stupid.[/quotec02a2b0a22]

To be fair, i was speculating by the language in the new ARG letter that this was what they are doing. As far as I know ARG hasn't actually said they are looking at receipts - it's a logical conclusion looking at that letter but we are not dealing with logical people, or at least not honest people.

[bc02a2b0a22]For all we know they are combing through looking for ANY repeated offers, emails, etc, or looking at receipts - probably both. [/bc02a2b0a22]

And if they start sending out DQ letters for legitamite receipts, then the whole process of answering the DQ letter, waiting for a response, etc, will just make this process longer.

They'll probably try and DQ a bunch of legit people just so the appeal process eats up some time.[/quotec02a2b0a22]repeating receipts?? lol lol

ohboyitsryan

24-04-2009 15:12:37

not gonna call anyone out, but I remember telling someone to cool out on talking about jumping through hoops on the receipt thing. you know these people read the forums, that's how they stay steps ahead because they know what we're planning to do... I hope you guys have legit receipts and can back it up with bank statements because if you don't, you will probably be out of luck.

oleus

24-04-2009 15:23:05

[quote52355d194e="ohboyitsryan"]not gonna call anyone out, but I remember telling someone to cool out on talking about jumping through hoops on the receipt thing. you know these people read the forums, that's how they stay steps ahead because they know what we're planning to do... I hope you guys have legit receipts and can back it up with bank statements because if you don't, you will probably be out of luck.[/quote52355d194e]

no offense to anyone here, but if anyone repeated receipts they deserve to get DQ'd, and they also deserve the ire of anyone here who played by the rules and has to wait for ARG to look into it/DQ them!

i bought two amex giftcards, they had different receipts but if repeated receipts are what they're looking for it's people like me who might get shafted and have to dig up credit card statements, etc.

who am i kidding...we're all shafted at this point it seems, no matter what we did.

RolltheStampede

24-04-2009 15:32:04

They probably make a rule saying if you send them a redemption certificate you are in breach of the terms

zr2152

24-04-2009 15:53:47

[quote2f78e212fe="RolltheStampede"]They probably make a rule saying if you send them a redemption certificate you are in breach of the terms[/quote2f78e212fe]


lol yeah. But it would be nice if ARG was scratching this whole mpell thingy and starting from scratch and really looking at the right thing to DQ people for, but I doubt that is happening.

dubbin87

24-04-2009 15:54:35

[quote15cc845cab="RolltheStampede"]They probably make a rule saying if you send them a redemption certificate you are in breach of the terms[/quote15cc845cab]

If you used a white envelope = DQ
If you used a 42 cent stamp = DQ
If you licked the stamp = double DQ shock

ohboyitsryan

24-04-2009 15:57:36

how is it possible to repeat receipts?

ghounds07

24-04-2009 16:16:53

[quote2211093c5a="ohboyitsryan"]not gonna call anyone out, but I remember telling someone to cool out on talking about jumping through hoops on the receipt thing. you know these people read the forums, that's how they stay steps ahead because they know what we're planning to do... I hope you guys have legit receipts and can back it up with bank statements because if you don't, you will probably be out of luck.[/quote2211093c5a]

May I ask what "jumping through hoops" for a receipt means? If you're talking about returning the product after you purchased it, then that complied with their rules...

RolltheStampede

24-04-2009 16:17:23

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ohboyitsryan

24-04-2009 16:25:26

[quote3fe667710f="ghounds07"][quote3fe667710f="ohboyitsryan"]not gonna call anyone out, but I remember telling someone to cool out on talking about jumping through hoops on the receipt thing. you know these people read the forums, that's how they stay steps ahead because they know what we're planning to do... I hope you guys have legit receipts and can back it up with bank statements because if you don't, you will probably be out of luck.[/quote3fe667710f]

May I ask what "jumping through hoops" for a receipt means? If you're talking about returning the product after you purchased it, then that complied with their rules...[/quote3fe667710f]

I'm not trying to point any fingers, but if you make general statements alluding to 'not spening any money', it just looks fishy and ARG may even try to bind us retroactively to a 'no returns' clause or something crazy like that. my whole point was that we are being watched on this thread so we should refrain from rhetoric that might suggest foul play, even if it's completely legit. it's ARG...

and like I said before, I am definitely not trying to call you out or anything. just a general heads up so we can finally push through this whole ARG fiasco.

wiebelhaus03

24-04-2009 16:33:56

haha RTS i just read that one yesterday and was thinking of brandarama too

Zags1199

24-04-2009 17:09:01

[quote0375c1e0fb="dubbin87"][quote0375c1e0fb="RolltheStampede"]They probably make a rule saying if you send them a redemption certificate you are in breach of the terms[/quote0375c1e0fb]

If you used a white envelope = DQ
If you used a 42 cent stamp = DQ
If you licked the stamp = double DQ shock[/quote0375c1e0fb]

So what you're trying to say is that if you did both, you're in the clear, due to the double negative. D

I hate ARG.

michae229

24-04-2009 17:23:09

why would the even look at the receipts cause that was with Mpell not them?

oleus

24-04-2009 17:28:58

[quote248ee660b9="michae229"]why would the even look at the receipts cause that was with Mpell not them?[/quote248ee660b9]

because ARG is now going back over everything Mpell was "hired" to do to either drag things out more or to DQ more people (or both).

So basically getting Mpell involved was completely unnecessary, unless you start to consider the illusion they created that someone else was coming in to finally fulfill the gifts we've been waiting for was worth it.
How many of us would have gone out and bought items in hopes of getting our money back 8-10 weeks later if the letters were from Brandarama???

mistertomlinson

24-04-2009 17:54:36

Well, let me say this For those of you objecting to returning the items purchased to fulfill your cashback certificate, has anyone gotten paid within the 8 to 10 weeks as stated on the certificates? Hmmmmm, sounds like the ones who returned items may have had the right idea. If we felt confident enough that we'd receive our reimbursements in a timely matter (or at all for that matter)... if we trusted ARG, maybe those people wouldn't have returned their items.

I know I feel bad about instructing a friend of mine to comply with the cashback certificate he received for his 4 offer $1,000. He doesn't visit FiPG or any other freebie forums. I told him he had nothing to worry about and that he would surely be reimbursed for his purchase. Well, he's a college student and recently lost his job. Him and his wife went ahead and put a $2,000 fridge on his credit card under the impression ARG would reimburse them $1,000... and because I told them it was OK. Well, it's becoming increasingly obvious seeing as how NO ONE has received anything within the 10 week time frame, that they should have sent that damn thing back. Meanwhile, the interest is piling up.

oleus

24-04-2009 18:01:51

well technically they didn't say anywhere in the certificate you had to keep the item did they? i don't think you need to get defensive, the real rule-breaking would have been using duplicated receipts or some business like that.

i bought items i was going to buy anyway, i had several big ticket items i'd been needing/wanting so the timing worked out, too bad the ARG/Mpell side of the deal apparently is NOT working out.

like it's been stated countless times before, i'm not even really sure why they care what we bought, how we bought, or when we bought now that they've weeded the people out who didn't participate. THEY STILL OWE PEOPLE GIFTS THAT WERE CONFIRMED TO SHIP AS FAR BACK AS 2007!! CONFIRMED!!

whole thing is insane. they must not really believe many of us had any money or credit to comply with this, so i bet it's their first assumption that cheating happened. probably don't even have anything solid to work on!

ohboyitsryan

24-04-2009 18:22:31

[quote3fb5124f4e="oleus"][quote3fb5124f4e="michae229"]why would the even look at the receipts cause that was with Mpell not them?[/quote3fb5124f4e]

because ARG is now going back over everything Mpell was "hired" to do to either drag things out more or to DQ more people (or both).

So basically getting Mpell involved was completely unnecessary, unless you start to consider the illusion they created that someone else was coming in to finally fulfill the gifts we've been waiting for was worth it.
How many of us would have gone out and bought items in hopes of getting our money back 8-10 weeks later if the letters were from Brandarama???[/quote3fb5124f4e]

wasn't unnecessary at all. the main goal was to weed people out to cut costs of fulfillments. ARG wasn't satisfied with the end result, which left 7000+ accounts still needing fulfillment, so they are re-reviewing accounts to shrink that number even further. mpell was effective in getting the fulfillment number down to 7000. now expect more DQs in re next week or two because they are going to try to get that number as low as possible. espelcially for those people that have a bunch of money owed (upwards of 4-5000), they will be scanning your accounts like hawks.

ohboyitsryan

24-04-2009 18:25:01

and does anybody have a copy of the correspondance with mpell from a couple months back where the mpell employee said that they did not care about what we did with items after we purchased? that might come in handy...

mctrask

24-04-2009 18:42:30

[quotefa6103b46e="oleus"][quotefa6103b46e="michae229"]why would the even look at the receipts cause that was with Mpell not them?[/quotefa6103b46e]

because ARG is now going back over everything Mpell was "hired" to do to either drag things out more or to DQ more people (or both).

So basically getting Mpell involved was completely unnecessary, unless you start to consider the illusion they created that someone else was coming in to finally fulfill the gifts we've been waiting for was worth it.
How many of us would have gone out and bought items in hopes of getting our money back 8-10 weeks later if the letters were from Brandarama???[/quotefa6103b46e]

Well hey, they've been able to drag this thing out for four months without having to fork over any money and all the while, they've continued to rake in the cash from all of their active sites. That's in addition to the 12-15 months people had already waited to receive their "gifts." Pretty sweet game. This company has racked up more FTC violations and broken more state consumer laws than you can shake a stick at. Truth in advertising, deceptive practices and violation of the Mail Order Rule (FTC Rule which demands companies pay out rebate certificates within the promised time frame) to name a few. And still we all sit here taking it up the ass without fighting back.

People who are past the 10 week mark need to start filing complaints with the FTC and NY AG because as soon as ARG is done dragging out this round of delay tactics, they'll just come up with something else. Guaranteed.

ARG/MPell claims they received over 7000 certificates. That means that there have to be at least a few thousand people waiting 15+ months. Even a few hundred complaints all pouring in at the same time is bound to grab someone's attention.

x

zr2152

24-04-2009 19:18:09

If people didn't complete multiple offers under multiple email addresses then this problem right now would not exist.

So you guys can all thank them. It sucks for those who did the site legitimately.

oleus

24-04-2009 20:25:36

[quotedbb969e5d2="zr2152"]If people didn't complete multiple offers under multiple email addresses then this problem right now would not exist.

So you guys can all thank them. It sucks for those who did the site legitimately.[/quotedbb969e5d2]

and if arg actually verified people accurately the first time we qualified for our gifts, none of this would be happening either. if people repeated offers at the same physical address (not talking about email addresses) they should have been easily able to see that. and the ones who never did that are still waiting since oct 07

freeipodplayer

24-04-2009 21:01:55

we wo lo ho fo

mctrask

25-04-2009 08:35:38

I called ARG back when this whole fiasco started and pushed hard to get them to send me a check instead. Someone from fulfillment called me to try and sell me on a pennies on the dollar "settlement." From my notes of the conversation, I'll paraphrase a few of the bullshit lies the person from fulfillment shoveled at me

1. They couldn't send me the gift cards I qualified for because they were "out of stock." When I asked why they simply didn't order more gift cards as CS had informed me they had been doing all along, the answer I got is outlined in lie #2, the "while supplies last" BS.

2. That the free giftli sites only offered those giftsli "while supplies last." That even though the gifts were only offered "while supplies last" and they were now "out of stock" so they could just end the promotion without paying out people who were already qualified for their giftli, they were trying to do the right thing and get people their gifts anyway.

3. They couldn't send me a check because ARG is a "separate company" from YourTopBrands, HouseholdSavingsClub, etc.. When I told them that I knew of several people who had just received checks in lieu of their gifts and those checks had come from ARG and not YTB, ect., they claimed ignorance (remember, this is from someone in their fulfillment dept).

4. Even though YTB, ect. were separate companies, they wanted to do me a favor and were willing to send a check directly from the ARG's coffers for a fraction of the amount I was owed but only if I agreed to give up on receiving the balance owed for the gifts.

5. The MPell cash-back certificates were considered a gift of equal value and again, because ARG couldn't just send checks to people directly because YTB, etc. were "separate companies" from ARG, having people buy their own gift and submit the certificate to MPell was the fastest way to get everyone their gift.

After the conversation I was really pissed at all the BS I was handed so I looked up whether or not YTB, etc. are separate companies from ARG. They are not. The first line of the YTB EULA says that YTB is a division of ARG.

From Wiki
A division of a business entity is a portion of that business that operates under a different name. It is the equivalent of a corporation obtaining a fictitious name or "doing business as" certificate and operating a business under that fictitious name. A division is different from a subsidiary, in that a subsidiary is a separate legal entity owned by the primary business. A division is a part of the primary business, is not separate from that business, and the primary business is legally responsible for all of the obligations and debts of the division.

So, now ARG, who told me they couldn't send me a check directly because they are a separate company from the gift web sites, is going to send me a letter telling me that my check is now coming from ARG. How's that for a clusterflick.

kinneylamb

25-04-2009 12:14:12

out of stock = we're not doing gift cards and gifts anymore because we have a slow & innefficient fulfillment department, so we're taking this a different route.

while supplies last = oh yeah? the sites for the out of stock gifts have been up and running a couple of years now, to this day.

can't send you a check because we're separate companies = we have your info in the back office and we're currently trying to screw you out of your gift anyway, so if you insist in receiving a check, it's going to be a reduced amount.

ARG couldnt send checks to people in the first place because they are separate companies from YTB, etc., = we needed to cut costs by using cashback breakage to reduce the money we owe. p.s. we needed a 3rd party company to speed up a year's worth of accounts.

p.s. our lies are part of our problem. we lie all day to people like you, we lie to ourselves, sometimes we get in the office and dont know what to do because its full of lies. then we remember the truth, and we cut a check that day.

kinneylamb

25-04-2009 14:42:41

CEO of ARG
hehehehe, everything's going according to plan!

bow

LucaBella

25-04-2009 15:53:32

I love the people who say that it's the "fraudulent" ones who are causing the problem. If ARG/Brandywine had any sense at all, they'd have weeded those people out eons ago, while keeping the revenue they made from them. They didn't do that, so now they're clutching at straws and we're blaming each other and somehow if liweli had done something better, then ARG would have paid us all. BULL and SHIT.

I kept notes and didn't repeat offers on brandarama and neither did my family. we are owed a couple of gifts each, and we got no audits. We're getting screwed and it's NOT the fault of people who are owed 50 grand, it's simply brandarama's fault. They looked at how much they are owed, and said we don't want (can't) to pay, now how many rules can we make up to get out of this.

It's that simple. Brandarama is scamming and cheating everyone. that is all that is going on here.

zr2152

25-04-2009 16:44:59

[quoteac260df8fb="LucaBella"]I love the people who say that it's the "fraudulent" ones who are causing the problem. If ARG/Brandywine had any sense at all, they'd have weeded those people out eons ago, while keeping the revenue they made from them. They didn't do that, so now they're clutching at straws and we're blaming each other and somehow if liweli had done something better, then ARG would have paid us all. BULL and SHIT.

I kept notes and didn't repeat offers on brandarama and neither did my family. we are owed a couple of gifts each, and we got no audits. We're getting screwed and it's NOT the fault of people who are owed 50 grand, it's simply brandarama's fault. They looked at how much they are owed, and said we don't want (can't) to pay, now how many rules can we make up to get out of this.

[bac260df8fb]It's that simple. Brandarama is scamming and cheating everyone. that is all that is going on here.[/bac260df8fb][/quoteac260df8fb]

Yeah they are now cause everyone was completing multiple offers so ARG owed a TON of money..more than they should. This is why they are pulling the shit they are now (which is wrong).

It sucks for the people who did it correctly. Yes they should have weeded out the people before so it is partly their fault but in the end the main cause was the people who took advantage of ARG.

Brandarama fucked themselves but in the end, it was the scammers and selfish people who fucked Brandarama.

Simple CAUSE and EFFECT.

orangejuice

25-04-2009 18:49:33

oh well, im glad i got 10k or so from them

mistertomlinson

25-04-2009 19:16:23

[quotefd6e566445="zr2152"][quotefd6e566445="LucaBella"]I love the people who say that it's the "fraudulent" ones who are causing the problem. If ARG/Brandywine had any sense at all, they'd have weeded those people out eons ago, while keeping the revenue they made from them. They didn't do that, so now they're clutching at straws and we're blaming each other and somehow if liweli had done something better, then ARG would have paid us all. BULL and SHIT.

I kept notes and didn't repeat offers on brandarama and neither did my family. we are owed a couple of gifts each, and we got no audits. We're getting screwed and it's NOT the fault of people who are owed 50 grand, it's simply brandarama's fault. They looked at how much they are owed, and said we don't want (can't) to pay, now how many rules can we make up to get out of this.

[bfd6e566445]It's that simple. Brandarama is scamming and cheating everyone. that is all that is going on here.[/bfd6e566445][/quotefd6e566445]

Yeah they are now cause everyone was completing multiple offers so ARG owed a TON of money..more than they should. This is why they are pulling the shit they are now (which is wrong).

It sucks for the people who did it correctly. Yes they should have weeded out the people before so it is partly their fault but in the end the main cause was the people who took advantage of ARG.

Brandarama fucked themselves but in the end, it was the scammers and selfish people who fucked Brandarama.

Simple CAUSE and EFFECT.[/quotefd6e566445]

1. I didn't repeat offers or violate any terms set forth by ARG at ANY point, nor have I received an audit letter, so I am certainly not defending anyone who may have violated such terms.

2. I am not trying to create an argument. I'm just sharing my point of view.

I personally believe MORE people completed ARG sites legitimately rather than illegitimately. I don't think the problem was too many people repeating offers... I believe the problem were the low requirement sites. Everyone knows Brandarma had a great offer/payout ratio and took advantage of that. I think we all remember the FOUR OFFER $1,000 site. Honestly, everyone and their cousin did that site. Once I discovered that site, I don't think a SINGLE friend of mine didn't complete it. They've never repeated offers... hell, they'd never done freebie sites until I introduced that particular site to them. I think a lot of us remember the traffic Brandarama brought in with that site in the months of June and July of '07, if I remember correctly. I believe this is undoubtedly the reason they can't afford to pay. Unrealistic and unwise offer to payout ratio.

I don't know didilly shit about the innerworkings of freebie sites, but if ARG made $50 off each completed offer, they would have made $100 per individual and had to pay $900 as a result. That's just an idea...

So, regardless of how many people repeated offers, I think we'd be in the EXACT same boat if they didn't.

kinneylamb

25-04-2009 20:12:30

brandarama wasn't the only company offering great sites. that used to be the norm a long time ago. the difference being, those companies are either closed or have lower payout sites. but they actually pay people. while brandarama is... doing whatever the hell it is they're doing.

plus also freebie companies make a lot of money from giving your information to their marketing partners. not just from doing the offers.

desertwilite

25-04-2009 22:21:03

The rules were written by ARG , and we played by them. There is no other way to look at this other than--- they are refusing to uphold their end of the deal. There is no reason to blame one another. I wish you could all see this. We are all in the same boat. ARG would be very happy to see us fighting with in and against our own.
Can we all just stick together......just show that we know what we are doing and will not...for one moment put up with the bullshit?

kinneylamb

26-04-2009 00:11:05

your right desertwilite. its not even may 1 tho, i think theres the equivalent of a bomb headed towards ARG if checks are not seen by then, haha

Zags1199

26-04-2009 01:25:58

There has to be someone here who knows someone (who knows someone, etc.) in the mainstream media. There are consumer reports and scams all the time. Even if it's just a local broadcast, it's still a message that can be built off of. We need to stick together and brainstorm here to figure out how we can make the best of this situation and eventually get paid.

freeipodplayer

26-04-2009 04:59:40

Don't worry about zr2152. He is just upset someone else could do what he 'ethically' couldn't. And in the end... he was hosed. So sad.... right.

Oh my god... speaking of which... where is SkatingCrippled? haha

zr2152

26-04-2009 10:55:50

[quote5e7520bc2d="freeipodplayer"]Don't worry about zr2152. He is just upset someone else could do what he 'ethically' couldn't. And in the end... he was hosed. So sad.... right.

Oh my god... speaking of which... where is SkatingCrippled? haha[/quote5e7520bc2d]

I was never hosed and I'm not upset at anyone. I actually got my $500 Best Buy and $1000 Visa a while back...and most of you didn't so you all got hosed.

Props to you if you could do all those sites.

I was never aiming my post at anyone but rather giving those people who actually did the sites legitimately my sympathies.

people need to chill the fuck out and read a little.

dubbin87

26-04-2009 11:14:48

[quote1b32576f02="freeipodplayer"]

Oh my god... speaking of which... where is SkatingCrippled? haha[/quote1b32576f02]

Must have wiped out. P

edgespeeder04

26-04-2009 20:28:40

Gotta love their responses

Thank you for contacting us.

Due to overwhelming demand in the shipping department, we are experiencing delays. Thank you for patience. Prizes will be mailed out.


Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Morgan
Brandarama Member Support

kinneylamb

27-04-2009 00:15:17

you know, if they're telling us the truth by that letter, then customer service should have been given something different to tell us. its not quite the overwhelming demand, its fraud at this point, or so they say. it should read

dear ___,
due to fraud prevention, there are delays. your check will be mailed as soon as possible.

that would honestly be the response of a legitimate company not playing games.

LucaBella

27-04-2009 06:45:34

[quoteb18a1ce39c="Zags1199"]There has to be someone here who knows someone (who knows someone, etc.) in the mainstream media. There are consumer reports and scams all the time. Even if it's just a local broadcast, it's still a message that can be built off of. We need to stick together and brainstorm here to figure out how we can make the best of this situation and eventually get paid.[/quoteb18a1ce39c]

The problem is that no one will really understand the difference between this and any other scam. No one will understand that this company paid out plenty of people in the past, but continued to slow down payments til the point of madness, but they still paid. So people "knew" to trust them when the MPell letters went out. We "knew" we'd be paid because we'd been paid in the past. It's a double-fuck. It's not some random company that never paid out, it's a company we trusted from a past relationship that told us to go out and spend money many of us didn't have, and then left us high and dry.

What's going to happen is I'm going to wait one more month, and then I think we should declare war on Brad's hot ass. he's too public to hide from this shit.

ohboyitsryan

27-04-2009 08:27:32

[quote22b6ca42c4="LucaBella"][quote22b6ca42c4="Zags1199"]There has to be someone here who knows someone (who knows someone, etc.) in the mainstream media. There are consumer reports and scams all the time. Even if it's just a local broadcast, it's still a message that can be built off of. We need to stick together and brainstorm here to figure out how we can make the best of this situation and eventually get paid.[/quote22b6ca42c4]

The problem is that no one will really understand the difference between this and any other scam. No one will understand that this company paid out plenty of people in the past, but continued to slow down payments til the point of madness, but they still paid. So people "knew" to trust them when the MPell letters went out. We "knew" we'd be paid because we'd been paid in the past. It's a double-fuck. It's not some random company that never paid out, it's a company we trusted from a past relationship that told us to go out and spend money many of us didn't have, and then left us high and dry.

What's going to happen is I'm going to wait one more month, and then I think we should declare war on Brad's hot ass. he's too public to hide from this shit.[/quote22b6ca42c4]

what's the point of waiting one more month? you've already waited anywhere from 12-18. if you have a plan to go to war, you should do that now. one month isn't going to change anything...we'll still be in the same boat.

mctrask

27-04-2009 08:29:51

[quote513e75d500="LucaBella"][quote513e75d500="Zags1199"]There has to be someone here who knows someone (who knows someone, etc.) in the mainstream media. There are consumer reports and scams all the time. Even if it's just a local broadcast, it's still a message that can be built off of. We need to stick together and brainstorm here to figure out how we can make the best of this situation and eventually get paid.[/quote513e75d500]

The problem is that no one will really understand the difference between this and any other scam. No one will understand that this company paid out plenty of people in the past, but continued to slow down payments til the point of madness, but they still paid. So people "knew" to trust them when the MPell letters went out. We "knew" we'd be paid because we'd been paid in the past. It's a double-fuck. It's not some random company that never paid out, it's a company we trusted from a past relationship that told us to go out and spend money many of us didn't have, and then left us high and dry.

What's going to happen is I'm going to wait one more month, and then I think we should declare war on Brad's hot ass. he's too public to hide from this shit.[/quote513e75d500]

Brad made campaign contributions so his home address is a matter of public record on teh Google. A group of people standing outside his nice Manhattan digs holding signs that read, "Brad Powers scammed me out of $xxx" would get his attention.

supersponger1979

27-04-2009 08:42:37

I am so over all of this...The "MPell Solution" was too good to be true. I am tired of playing their games as most of us have been waiting upwards of 18 months or more for the original 8-10 wk time frame we were given when we completed the offers. I would love to hear input about contacting the Attorney general of NY and filing fraud complaints...Thanks

orangejuice

27-04-2009 09:24:07

whats his home address?

hawke12

27-04-2009 11:29:34

Sick the 4chan A@@holes on him ;)

Post a bunch of stupid crap in his name....once the 4chan army is after you, your in trouble, or so I hear. supposedly they have an entire army of comp geeks that will destroy anyone electronically.

Zags1199

27-04-2009 13:04:57

Wow, it looks like Brad liked Hillary enough to give her $2300. Laugh.

bruman

27-04-2009 13:09:39

Here's what I found from my weekly ARG google search ;)

New brandarama website registered this month.. "brandarama select" http//www.brandaramaselect.com

New job posting for ARG's colorado office posted last week. http//colorado.uloop.com/jobs/view.php/449402
$10.25 per hour, full time May - August

Just some interesting info.. evidence suggesting they are not going out of business anytime soon.

Zags1199

27-04-2009 13:15:46

It's too bad no one here goes to CU-Boulder.

bruman

27-04-2009 13:24:38

[quote1edcf26190="Zags1199"]It's too bad no one here goes to CU-Boulder.[/quote1edcf26190]

Yeah.. says they are looking for 2 college students for a summer internship there. Despite what everyone says they are a very big company and have 3 offices (FL, NY and CO) w/ lots of employees. I'm not surprised that there is a lack of communication between the offices and probably some employees aren't even aware of our situation because they work in different branches of the company.

zr2152

27-04-2009 13:45:04

[quote0558aa6f4a="bruman"][quote0558aa6f4a="Zags1199"]It's too bad no one here goes to CU-Boulder.[/quote0558aa6f4a]

Yeah.. says they are looking for 2 college students for a summer internship there. Despite what everyone says they are a very big company and have 3 offices (FL, NY and CO) w/ lots of employees. I'm not surprised that there is a lack of communication between the offices and probably some employees aren't even aware of our situation because they work in different branches of the company.[/quote0558aa6f4a]

Where are they located in NY? In the city?

dubbin87

27-04-2009 13:45:56

[quote1378bc14ee="bruman"]Here's what I found from my weekly ARG google search ;)

Just some interesting info.. evidence suggesting they are not going out of business anytime soon.[/quote1378bc14ee]

Gotta keep the scam going...

bruman

27-04-2009 13:47:07

[quote2cf2ced80c="zr2152"][quote2cf2ced80c="bruman"][quote2cf2ced80c="Zags1199"]It's too bad no one here goes to CU-Boulder.[/quote2cf2ced80c]

Yeah.. says they are looking for 2 college students for a summer internship there. Despite what everyone says they are a very big company and have 3 offices (FL, NY and CO) w/ lots of employees. I'm not surprised that there is a lack of communication between the offices and probably some employees aren't even aware of our situation because they work in different branches of the company.[/quote2cf2ced80c]

Where are they located in NY? In the city?[/quote2cf2ced80c]

Yeah.. NY, NY.

Zags1199

27-04-2009 15:19:51

http//www.thecoreginsider.com/index.php?cent=news&nid=34

Among other things

[quote4a314d3ffc]Yeah, ARG started with three people and my own checkbook to now being back by a publicly traded company. It’s quite a change in pace.[/quote4a314d3ffc]

Is there any way to find out who is backing ARG?

hawke12

27-04-2009 15:22:58

[quote39d44369f4="bruman"]I'm not surprised that there is a lack of communication between the offices and probably some employees aren't even aware of our situation because they work in different branches of the company.[/quote39d44369f4]

Yeah so One branch can't take down the other if they each have limited information. That's how criminal enterprises work. Each office can claim ignorance of the other.

mariners1999

27-04-2009 15:53:05

Anyone try to contact Brandarama (ARG) at any
other number then their 1-800 number? Just wonder
if all these get you to the customer service area or if
it gets you to someone that can actually help us out?

646-356-8150
(http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/pdfs/ARG-AdvertiserAgency.pdf)

212-268-4535
(http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/contact.php)

646-221-2085 (http//www.redorbit.com/news/technology/728701/active_response_group_acquires_oridian_usa_from_online_media_solutions/index.html)

212-203-3598 (http//www.herculestech.com/portfolio/portfolio.asp?CompanyID=12789&IndustryID=0)

212-696-5977 (looks like this is for transTech the company that was going to buy them out.... http//finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=TTSP.OB)

(http//www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-188905113.html and http//www.zoominfo.com/Search/CompanyDetail.aspx?CompanyID=1135545&cs=QDEVO5lg)


I did also find it interesting that the revenue's for Active Response group look to be about only 20 million.
(http//www.zoominfo.com/Search/CompanyDetail.aspx?CompanyID=1135545&cs=QDEVO5lg)


M

ghounds07

27-04-2009 17:54:47

For the person who contacted Oran Thomas, do you know how many days it took him to respond? Sent him an email regarding his business practices and just waiting for the interesting response...

beerman

27-04-2009 18:53:58

[quote9c1de18d63="ghounds07"]For the person who contacted Oran Thomas, do you know how many days it took him to respond? Sent him an email regarding his business practices and just waiting for the interesting response...[/quote9c1de18d63]

I was the one, he usually emailed me in the evening....probably at the end of his day. Post your email to him here, I'd be interested to read it....just remember Mpell is officially out of the picture.

bruman

27-04-2009 19:41:02

[quote86f31bc7f5="dubbin87"][quote86f31bc7f5="bruman"]Here's what I found from my weekly ARG google search ;)

Just some interesting info.. evidence suggesting they are not going out of business anytime soon.[/quote86f31bc7f5]

Gotta keep the scam going...[/quote86f31bc7f5]

[quote86f31bc7f5="hawke12"][quote86f31bc7f5="bruman"]I'm not surprised that there is a lack of communication between the offices and probably some employees aren't even aware of our situation because they work in different branches of the company.[/quote86f31bc7f5]

Yeah so One branch can't take down the other if they each have limited information. That's how criminal enterprises work. Each office can claim ignorance of the other.[/quote86f31bc7f5]

I really don't think their intent is to scam people. Obviously they were negligent and let it get out of hand and hopefully that'll be corrected. I know most people here profited a lot from gifts done pre late '07. My point is that they aren't shutting down.. with the new cancellation policies all the people that aren't us (which is a majority of their customers) they're basically making pure profit from. Nuitech went this same route and I would guess financially they are better off because of it. Since they aren't shutting down that's a pretty good indicator that we will be paid. Obviously they received more certs than they initially expected. But they won't string us along forever.. we're just apparently low priority right now.

slambam

27-04-2009 20:45:49

I just want to know how many hoops we have to jump through. We did the requirements as we were asked, and THEN had to do the mpell forms? Why, other than just to DQ people? The mpell forms have absolutely nothing to do with how much money Brandarama made from the sponsors, it only cost them money. If they want to DQ people who repeated offer, then go ahead. We all knew better, so that's fine. But seriously, I just don't get the shit they do. What are they going to do when there is no other way to DQ people? Maybe they'll finally pay the people who've jumped through all there shit. This just seems like it'll never end.

ghounds07

27-04-2009 21:42:22

[quote6d3019fabc="bruman"][quote6d3019fabc="dubbin87"][quote6d3019fabc="bruman"]Here's what I found from my weekly ARG google search ;)

Just some interesting info.. evidence suggesting they are not going out of business anytime soon.[/quote6d3019fabc]

Gotta keep the scam going...[/quote6d3019fabc]

[quote6d3019fabc="hawke12"][quote6d3019fabc="bruman"]I'm not surprised that there is a lack of communication between the offices and probably some employees aren't even aware of our situation because they work in different branches of the company.[/quote6d3019fabc]

Yeah so One branch can't take down the other if they each have limited information. That's how criminal enterprises work. Each office can claim ignorance of the other.[/quote6d3019fabc]

I really don't think their intent is to scam people. Obviously they were negligent and let it get out of hand and hopefully that'll be corrected. I know most people here profited a lot from gifts done pre late '07. My point is that they aren't shutting down.. with the new cancellation policies all the people that aren't us (which is a majority of their customers) they're basically making pure profit from. Nuitech went this same route and I would guess financially they are better off because of it. Since they aren't shutting down that's a pretty good indicator that we will be paid. Obviously they received more certs than they initially expected. But they won't string us along forever.. we're just apparently low priority right now.[/quote6d3019fabc]

Yeah I agree I guess it could be like Nuitech in that sense, but I don't really remember Nuitech never did one of their sites but were their gifts as easy as ARG's? Plus, ARG entered the game a little later than Nuitech so more people knew about DIY's when they came in. Maybe they just realized they had a flawed business model too late and really have no money to pay us? (

Since it seems like they have a lot of financial backing I'm pretty sure we'll get our money, just wish it would be sooner...

mistertomlinson

28-04-2009 06:02:36

[quote19057008c0="ghounds07"][quote19057008c0="bruman"][quote19057008c0="dubbin87"][quote19057008c0="bruman"]Here's what I found from my weekly ARG google search ;)

Just some interesting info.. evidence suggesting they are not going out of business anytime soon.[/quote19057008c0]

Gotta keep the scam going...[/quote19057008c0]

[quote19057008c0="hawke12"][quote19057008c0="bruman"]I'm not surprised that there is a lack of communication between the offices and probably some employees aren't even aware of our situation because they work in different branches of the company.[/quote19057008c0]

Yeah so One branch can't take down the other if they each have limited information. That's how criminal enterprises work. Each office can claim ignorance of the other.[/quote19057008c0]

I really don't think their intent is to scam people. Obviously they were negligent and let it get out of hand and hopefully that'll be corrected. I know most people here profited a lot from gifts done pre late '07. My point is that they aren't shutting down.. with the new cancellation policies all the people that aren't us (which is a majority of their customers) they're basically making pure profit from. Nuitech went this same route and I would guess financially they are better off because of it. Since they aren't shutting down that's a pretty good indicator that we will be paid. Obviously they received more certs than they initially expected. But they won't string us along forever.. we're just apparently low priority right now.[/quote19057008c0]

Yeah I agree I guess it could be like Nuitech in that sense, but I don't really remember Nuitech never did one of their sites but were their gifts as easy as ARG's? Plus, ARG entered the game a little later than Nuitech so more people knew about DIY's when they came in. Maybe they just realized they had a flawed business model too late and really have no money to pay us? (

Since it seems like they have a lot of financial backing I'm pretty sure we'll get our money, just wish it would be sooner...[/quote19057008c0]

Early Niutech was a good time. I got in on the... what was it, a 6 offer iBook? I can't even remember (note since then, I have never considered another PC) It retailed for $1,000 back then. I'm pretty sure turnaround was more than reasonable. Damn sure faster than ARG. But later, requirements went up. But then again, I think they had a lot of $2,000 sites. I believe they were usually 18 offers. Still, I wouldn't mind 9 offers per grand nowadays, assuming the turnaround wasn't nearly as bad as ARG.

orangejuice

28-04-2009 08:30:27

I did 4 of their $2000 , 18-offer sites. Those were the days

oleus

28-04-2009 08:43:30

does the BBB close out complaints against ARG as fast and routinely as they did with our Mpell complaints? i'd like to file one for ARG/brandarama but if it's going to be swept aside so quickly i'm not going to even bother.

RolltheStampede

28-04-2009 08:52:24

[quote60f26db0de="orangejuice"]I did 4 of their $2000 , 18-offer sites. Those were the days[/quote60f26db0de]

Gifts were easy, you could have a certificate in a week or so, or even overnight with the right offers, Josh Clark brought the hammer down on them though.

IceCold1906

28-04-2009 09:26:28

man people get banned left and right here, I've never witnessed so many bans. this is silly.

zr2152

28-04-2009 10:05:52

[quote41bdbe7682="IceCold1906"]man people get banned left and right here, I've never witnessed so many bans. this is silly.[/quote41bdbe7682]

OJ is not banned and there are good reasons for people getting banned here. The mods here are pretty lenient so if you piss them off enough to ban you, you really must have done something wrong.

ohboyitsryan

28-04-2009 10:27:04

has anybody been able to contact brandarama lately telephonically?

bruman

28-04-2009 10:28:14

[quote3cfd5e6b07="ohboyitsryan"]has anybody been able to contact brandarama lately telephonically?[/quote3cfd5e6b07]

Have you tried today?

AdrienD1892

28-04-2009 10:42:15

[quote9c6bf16cb3="bruman"][quote9c6bf16cb3="ohboyitsryan"]has anybody been able to contact brandarama lately telephonically?[/quote9c6bf16cb3]

Have you tried today?[/quote9c6bf16cb3]

I did, today. You get the automated "If you are calling to find out the status of your certifications, please be aware that due to the high volume we are a little behind. We are sending out payments, but calls to Customer Service only delay the process. Please be patient. If you could like to speak to Customer service Press 1"

Presses 1

Please be aware there are no customer service agents available at this time to take your call. Business hours are between 9 and 5 PM EST. Thank you"

CLICK!

Good times, yeah?

wankers -_-

oleus

28-04-2009 10:44:09

i really am curious as to what their methods are to verify our receipts/certificates. if there even are any "methods".. they probably threw them all away. what a crock of lililili

Eeyore

28-04-2009 10:51:57

The method is to open the windows on a breezy day and pay the ones which don't blow away... )

Next month should be interesting.

PS600REVX

28-04-2009 10:57:34

[quoteb67a490038="oleus"]i really am curious as to what their methods are to verify our receipts/certificates. if there even are any "methods".. they probably threw them all away. what a crock of lililili[/quoteb67a490038]

They really can't. The only thing I can think of is people who maybe tried to use 1 receipt for numerous gifts? Or fake receipts made on a computer? That is about it. No way they can verify merchant receipts from places like Walmart or Target and finding out if the gifts were returned, etc. Just no way to do that.

ohboyitsryan

28-04-2009 10:58:46

[quote1665c9b80f="bruman"][quote1665c9b80f="ohboyitsryan"]has anybody been able to contact brandarama lately telephonically?[/quote1665c9b80f]

Have you tried today?[/quote1665c9b80f]

yeah. same thing happens to me that happened to adrien...like that all week so far

bruman

28-04-2009 11:43:02

They are still responding to e-mails... you'll probably get a generic response first.. if you do, just reply back restating the question again to get more specific info.

[quote63b03bf561="AdrienD1892"][quote63b03bf561="bruman"][quote63b03bf561="ohboyitsryan"]has anybody been able to contact brandarama lately telephonically?[/quote63b03bf561]

Have you tried today?[/quote63b03bf561]

"We are sending out payments, but calls to Customer Service only delay the process."[/quote63b03bf561]

Did you just make that part up because I called yesterday and today and that wasn't part of the recording. They've stated in the past that the customer service department and fulfillment department are two entirely separate sections of the company and not one affects the other. It would be strange now if they are changing that story.

chewy

28-04-2009 12:02:42

[quotee833ecf22d="bruman"]They are still responding to e-mails... you'll probably get a generic response first.. if you do, just reply back restating the question again to get more specific info.

[quotee833ecf22d="AdrienD1892"][quotee833ecf22d="bruman"][quotee833ecf22d="ohboyitsryan"]has anybody been able to contact brandarama lately telephonically?[/quotee833ecf22d]

Have you tried today?[/quotee833ecf22d]

"We are sending out payments, but calls to Customer Service only delay the process."[/quotee833ecf22d]

Did you just make that part up because I called yesterday and today and that wasn't part of the recording. They've stated in the past that the customer service department and fulfillment department are two entirely separate sections of the company and not one affects the other. It would be strange now if they are changing that story.[/quotee833ecf22d]


i doubt calling them slows down sending out checks. im sure the person who answers the phone doesnt write the checks roll

oleus

28-04-2009 12:49:31

it's tough to find humor in any of this, but i found the latest brandarama email response i got amusing. "THEY will be sending you a letter...from US"

Thank you for contacting us.

If you mailed in the cash back information to Mpell then you are on the list. They will be sending you a letter this week from us about the cash back.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
YourTopBrands Member Support

tylerc

28-04-2009 12:58:10

I thought they were no longer using MPell?

oleus

28-04-2009 13:17:18

[quoteb3640dc95a="tylerc"]I thought they were no longer using MPell?[/quoteb3640dc95a]

i guess mpell is sending us all physical copies of the letter they used to respond to the BBB complaints as well as attached to some of mpell's emails from last week.

the part i'm nervous about is when i wonder just how crazy they will decide to be about this next phase of "verification" - i.e. will they be screwing people even more than they already are by claiming real receipts are frauds, or are they actually finding a ton of fraudulent receipts/certificates and anyone who is "legit" would be fine....

bruman

28-04-2009 13:26:37

[quotebf04abe91e="oleus"][quotebf04abe91e="tylerc"]I thought they were no longer using MPell?[/quotebf04abe91e]

i guess mpell is sending us all physical copies of the letter they used to respond to the BBB complaints as well as attached to some of mpell's emails from last week.

the part i'm nervous about is when i wonder just how crazy they will decide to be about this next phase of "verification" - i.e. will they be screwing people even more than they already are by claiming real receipts are frauds, or are they actually finding a ton of fraudulent receipts/certificates and anyone who is "legit" would be fine....[/quotebf04abe91e]

I don't think there are going to be any more audits/verification. The letter was just mentioning the previous auditing as an excuse for delay imo.

moose_man

28-04-2009 13:34:35

Wow I really need this money now, getting really sick of waiting. Sorry for sounding stereotypical.

oleus

28-04-2009 13:36:52

[quote5444dcdd78="bruman"][quote5444dcdd78="oleus"][quote5444dcdd78="tylerc"]I thought they were no longer using MPell?[/quote5444dcdd78]

i guess mpell is sending us all physical copies of the letter they used to respond to the BBB complaints as well as attached to some of mpell's emails from last week.

the part i'm nervous about is when i wonder just how crazy they will decide to be about this next phase of "verification" - i.e. will they be screwing people even more than they already are by claiming real receipts are frauds, or are they actually finding a ton of fraudulent receipts/certificates and anyone who is "legit" would be fine....[/quote5444dcdd78]

I don't think there are going to be any more audits/verification. The letter was just mentioning the previous auditing as an excuse for delay imo.[/quote5444dcdd78]

i dunno, it sure sounded to me like they were alluding to having to hire more staff to look into the "funny business", that doesn't sound like the first wave of audits, but i hope you are right and they just don't know how to honestly or accurately describe anything.

kinneylamb

28-04-2009 13:50:29

they are now using mpell to send their own letters, apparently because it would take them a year to get the letters out.

the first wave of audits was for brandarama account fraud, like duplicate offers and e-mail addresses.

the second wave of audits are cashback certificate + receipt fraud, which seems like it was a surprise to them. thats the reason for the letter.

oleus

28-04-2009 13:53:20

[quote6ec3a1b63e="kinneylamb"]they are now using mpell to send their own letters, apparently because it would take them a year to get the letters out.

the first wave of audits was for brandarama account fraud, like duplicate offers and e-mail addresses.

the second wave of audits are cashback certificate + receipt fraud, which seems like it was a surprise to them. thats the reason for the letter.[/quote6ec3a1b63e]

which still doesn't make too much sense, if they started noticing fishy receipts why not take care of it then and there when they came to it? even if there were 7000 certificates couldn't they go through those in a week or two? ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

manOFice

28-04-2009 14:32:09

[quote5fd2e6fbee="tylerc"]I thought they were no longer using MPell?[/quote5fd2e6fbee]

I think their sending us a letter saying that we're not dealing with them anymore

Eeyore

28-04-2009 14:39:59

[quote88b6b3121b="manOFice"][quote88b6b3121b="tylerc"]I thought they were no longer using MPell?[/quote88b6b3121b]

I think their sending us a letter saying that we're not dealing with them anymore[/quote88b6b3121b]

Precisely. The staffing just to keep up with the complaints is probably costing them more than they'll make off this bad business deal.

Eeyore

28-04-2009 14:40:44

[quote2bc497a773="kinneylamb"]
the second wave of audits are cashback certificate + receipt fraud, which seems like it was a surprise to them. thats the reason for the letter.[/quote2bc497a773]
Source?

RolltheStampede

28-04-2009 14:41:42

Speculation

kinneylamb

28-04-2009 15:08:44

the ARG letter. and the fact that noone has reported receiving a DQ letter for account stuff.

kinneylamb

28-04-2009 15:11:10

[quotee073c38aa1="oleus"][quotee073c38aa1="kinneylamb"]they are now using mpell to send their own letters, apparently because it would take them a year to get the letters out.

the first wave of audits was for brandarama account fraud, like duplicate offers and e-mail addresses.

the second wave of audits are cashback certificate + receipt fraud, which seems like it was a surprise to them. thats the reason for the letter.[/quotee073c38aa1]

which still doesn't make too much sense, if they started noticing fishy receipts why not take care of it then and there when they came to it? even if there were 7000 certificates couldn't they go through those in a week or two? ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh[/quotee073c38aa1]

seems like they waited the 10 weeks, then somehow "thought of" checking the certificates themselves, and let go of mpell to relieve customer complaints, since mpell would not be mailing payments on time. brandarama seems to think of things on the fly, and at the wrong time. unless something else is really going on.

RolltheStampede

28-04-2009 16:11:42

They just Bought time, 2 months two months actually. SO for 2 months they didnt have massive calls about when will people would get there gift.

Mpell would have mostlike mailed checks on time had they actually sent the money to MPell
They bought 2-3 months and weeded out people who didnt send back certs and trying to get people on new terms.

now back to the same ol Brandarama business as usual.

AdrienD1892

28-04-2009 16:18:59

[quote9348bd7862="bruman"]Did you just make that part up because I called yesterday and today and that wasn't part of the recording. They've stated in the past that the customer service department and fulfillment department are two entirely separate sections of the company and not one affects the other. It would be strange now if they are changing that story.[/quote9348bd7862]

No I didn't make it up. They said that calls to customer service only slow the process of them sending checks. It was before the "Press one to get such and such and two to get such and such"

Next time I'll record it for you -_-

bennyboy5768

28-04-2009 17:38:05

[quote8d508aa33c="oleus"]it's tough to find humor in any of this, but i found the latest brandarama email response i got amusing. "THEY will be sending you a letter...from US"

Thank you for contacting us.

If you mailed in the cash back information to Mpell then you are on the list. They will be sending you a letter this week from us about the cash back.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
YourTopBrands Member Support[/quote8d508aa33c]

I highly doubt that they would mail 4 million color copies of a letter telling us of delays if they weren't going to send us money. I'm just as nervous and pissed off about this as the next guy but I think we should give them a little more patience. Then again this could all be a tax write-off for them.

tp24

28-04-2009 17:57:32

Oh well, in the end, it's only money. I can always make it up with my 9-5 job at Burger King...oh wait...

libreaks down and sobsli

Please Brandarama send my $2500 check please. It'll be my last hooker, I promise

Eeyore

28-04-2009 20:51:50

[quotecd8bc90a88="kinneylamb"]the ARG letter. and the fact that noone has reported receiving a DQ letter for account stuff.[/quotecd8bc90a88]
You got a letter? What does it say?

kinneylamb

28-04-2009 22:05:12

i got a copy from mpell. seeing it first-hand is funny. in the e-mail, mpell said these letters will be sent out to people. i didn't really believe that, but it looks like its gonna happen. i was hoping brandarama would be done with their fraudulent transactions overlooking, by the time there was a need for a letter. |

Zags1199

28-04-2009 22:08:09

[quote6068e7c405]Dear Valued Customer

Thank you for your participation in our Cash Back Certificate Program.

The purpose of this note is to inform you that we are experiencing delays in fulfillment.

The delay is due to the overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies and evidence that suggests fraudulent transactions. This discovery has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. In order to expedite this process we have hired additional staff to inspect each certificate.

Be assured that all qualified customers shall receive their check as soon as possible.

Additionally, please note that you will be receiving your check directly from Active Response Group.

You may contact our customer service and fulfillment department directly by calling 1-877-312-7263 or via email= at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com/email, should you have any questions.

Please DO NOT contact MPELL Solutions. MPELL will not be involved in the final processing and fulfillment of this program.

Thank you for your participation and patience.

Sincerely yours,
Customer Care Department[/quote6068e7c405]

That's what the letter says.

orangejuice

28-04-2009 22:36:14

i have written them off for sure now. i will not stop harrasing them every day tho. i sure hope they enjoy replacing $85 ink toners

mistertomlinson

29-04-2009 00:20:03

[quotedfcb8ca5aa]The delay is due to the overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies and evidence that suggests fraudulent transactions. This discovery has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. In order to expedite this process we have hired additional staff to inspect each certificate.[/quotedfcb8ca5aa]


Jesus of Nazarath, this is clearly another tactic to buy time. I don't believe for a second they're doing anything of the sort as there is nothing they can do in the matter. I guess it's kinda hard to send letters stating, "We just can't afford to pay everyone right now."

I'm still optimistic they'll send payments.

EDIT Besides, I can't help but think... "inconsistencies and evidence that suggests fraudulent transactions?" Oh, you mean the ones we never agreed to in the first place when registering for your site(s)? You mean the ones you just conjured up unfairly without warning to decrease the number of payments you were already obligated to make? Those?

RolltheStampede

29-04-2009 06:27:00

yup those )

doylnea

29-04-2009 06:59:15

[quote04e0e1849e="orangejuice"]i have written them off for sure now. i will not stop harrasing them every day tho. i sure hope they enjoy replacing $85 ink toners[/quote04e0e1849e]

you do realize that most companies don't have actual fax machines, but instead just have faxes routed to their computers electronically, right?

hawke12

29-04-2009 07:30:06

Well I went from Not being able to log into either of my 2 sites. To being able to log into one, and after several emails I was able to log into both again. Now after 3 weeks. I can not log into one of them again.

ohh...... the insanity.

Eeyore

29-04-2009 07:40:22

[quoteb7e706ff54="doylnea"][quoteb7e706ff54="orangejuice"]i have written them off for sure now. i will not stop harrasing them every day tho. i sure hope they enjoy replacing $85 ink toners[/quoteb7e706ff54]

you do realize that most companies don't have actual fax machines, but instead just have faxes routed to their computers electronically, right?[/quoteb7e706ff54]

Not to mention that pesky "From" line in the fax header along with caller ID information collecting data for the Federal telecom harassment complaint, and that stupidly-posted comment admitting what he's doing. Each one of those transmissions is worth $500 to Mpell or ARG. But of course he isn't actually doing anything...just talking big. roll

wiebelhaus03

29-04-2009 08:11:29

E-Fax

RolltheStampede

29-04-2009 09:12:18

[quote4bc5c8f0b8="wiebelhaus03"]E-Fax[/quote4bc5c8f0b8] LOL oh the irony

DRay9911

29-04-2009 14:23:02

that's crap because the delays rose to ridiculous levels before they even tried to push it off on mpell.

they are probably auditing one certificate per day and won't ship anything until they have audited them all.

-dan



[quote375a2fc5f0]Dear Valued Customer

Thank you for your participation in our Cash Back Certificate Program.

[b375a2fc5f0]The purpose of this note is to inform you that we are experiencing delays in fulfillment.[/b375a2fc5f0]

[b375a2fc5f0]The delay is due to the overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies and evidence that suggests fraudulent transactions. This discovery has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. In order to expedite this process we have hired additional staff to inspect each certificate.[/b375a2fc5f0]

Be assured that all qualified customers shall receive their check as soon as possible.

Additionally, please note that you will be receiving your check directly from Active Response Group.

You may contact our customer service and fulfillment department directly by calling 1-877-312-7263 or via email= at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com/email, should you have any questions.

Please DO NOT contact MPELL Solutions. MPELL will not be involved in the final processing and fulfillment of this program.

Thank you for your participation and patience.

Sincerely yours,
Customer Care Department[/quote375a2fc5f0]

oleus

29-04-2009 14:29:21

what's scary/highly annoying is how there is absolutely ZERO timetable for this supposed "audit #2".

what a joke

hope they have fun looking at all the receipts, i'd bet 99% of them are totally legit.

dougp70

29-04-2009 14:46:20

I just want my money cry

ashilef

29-04-2009 15:23:18

[quote89f9c0d313="dougp70"]I just want my money cry[/quote89f9c0d313]

Me too...

debo012004

29-04-2009 16:03:14

check your email, I just got that letter as an email guess they won't send them out by snail mail.

Eeyore

29-04-2009 16:11:48

I got it via email direct from ARG today too.

RolltheStampede

29-04-2009 16:15:48

LOL, they dont even have money for stamps now

fbskiracer

29-04-2009 16:16:52

I wonder if anything bounces back to them they will just cancel people for that.

RolltheStampede

29-04-2009 16:20:11

they spammed up my email years ago.

ashilef

29-04-2009 16:20:43

Yea, just got the email too...blah too cheap to send letters now I see.

fbskiracer

29-04-2009 16:29:59

[quote7cd7144fda]The delay is due to the overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies and evidence that suggests fraudulent transactions. This discovery has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. In order to expedite this process we have hired additional staff to inspect each certificate. [/quote7cd7144fda]

What are they going to do about this? Essentially Mpell told EVERYONE not to worry. How can they validate everything?

bruman

29-04-2009 16:52:43

I wouldn't be surprised if we received both an e-mail and a physical letter.

Also did you guys notice the e-mail came from email==info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com=info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com/email

cashbackcustomercare.com redirects to ARG's website.. was just registered yesterday.

prizejunkie

29-04-2009 17:05:35

interestingly i got my email from topshelfbrands even tho the domain is down... thats a good sign...

livingloud28

29-04-2009 17:14:36

What I think is funny is that I am still being told oh your on the shipping list blah blah when they confirmed recieving my forms /

RolltheStampede

29-04-2009 17:39:31

[quote1f937b55e4="prizejunkie"]interestingly i got my email from topshelfbrands even tho the domain is down... thats a good sign...[/quote1f937b55e4]

yeah but it says .com,url==http://=http:///url there never was a .comurl==http://=http:///url just a .neturl==http://=http:///url

dougp70

29-04-2009 17:58:01

At least we FINALLY got some kind of news from them, even if it is pretty vague.

chewy

29-04-2009 18:39:02

i didnt get the email yet

ghounds07

29-04-2009 19:09:33

[quote67b8d62d3d="bruman"]I wouldn't be surprised if we received both an e-mail and a physical letter.

Also did you guys notice the e-mail came from email==info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com=info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com/email

cashbackcustomercare.com redirects to ARG's website.. was just registered yesterday.[/quote67b8d62d3d]

Yeah, the problem is so big they had to create another website just to deal with it, rofl.

Calling tomorrow to get my timetable.

kinneylamb

29-04-2009 20:51:00

i gotta admit i was impressed by the e-mail. its too bad i know about their (non) payouts.

and no theyre not too cheap for postage. sorry to kill the joke.
1. saves time and labor for printing, paper, stuffing envelopes and postage.
2. perhaps the matter is looked at as a short-term temporary thing, that an e-mail would suffice because its still fresh and relevent where as by the time you got your letter theyd be getting ready to ship checks soon.

ghounds07

29-04-2009 21:00:38

[quoteffd3ca176c="kinneylamb"]i gotta admit i was impressed by the e-mail. its too bad i know about their (non) payouts.

and no theyre not too cheap for postage. sorry to kill the joke.
1. saves time and labor for printing, paper, stuffing envelopes and postage.
2. perhaps the matter is looked at as a short-term temporary thing, that an e-mail would suffice because its still fresh and relevent where as by the time you got your letter theyd be getting ready to ship checks soon.[/quoteffd3ca176c]

Hah, no way they're shipping em that fast...

kinneylamb

29-04-2009 21:01:00

oh yeah and p.s. to the person who was told they cannot receive a check because ARG is a separate company from yourtopbrands or whatever site, its funny how this cashback certificate e-mail (stemming from a gift for yourtopbrands or whatever site) states your check will be coming directly from ARG. talk about contradictions.

[quote3973ec9a6a="ghounds07"]
Hah, no way they're shipping em that fast...[/quote3973ec9a6a]
i just dont see how this audit could take forever. theyre boxing themselves into a corner because they outright stated the reason for the delay. it cant logically take that long as we're used to, that would be utterly insane and ridiculous.

ltgeneralkasty

29-04-2009 21:18:25

Got the email from "ARG Customer Care" 7pm tonight. Same bull. The email did come from the cashbackcustomercare.com address. Anyone notice the reply-to email? "reply-dcjaj.fifbgh.eaegjbec@reply.kbmla.com"

kinneylamb

29-04-2009 21:22:40

what email program are you using?

mine says email==info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com=info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com/email

Eeyore

29-04-2009 21:35:27

Hit reply and look at the "To" field that results...

kinneylamb

29-04-2009 21:51:30

could be because its coming from mpell's system not brandarama, so they coded the reply address? its my understanding mpell sent the emails but filled in brandarama's info as the sender etc.

Eeyore

29-04-2009 22:01:03

Nope. They are using an outside mail service, Kobemail. They are only a few blocks away from ARG in New York City. Mine is the same as kasty's except for the 'eaegjbec', which appears to be unique to each account. You can bet that if it bounces back they'll be hitting the DQ button...

kinneylamb

29-04-2009 22:05:51

i hate how they can find/hire mpell, hire lawyers to draw up the audit language, change all of their sites t&c, find this e-mail company, do all these things so fast like a business would. but they can't pay their customers on time.

Eeyore

29-04-2009 22:12:34

I think Mpell finally got fed up and told them to go suck eggs. By the way, we ain't the customers. We are the product.

ghounds07

29-04-2009 22:21:53

Since when do products get free prizes? So confused...

Eeyore

29-04-2009 22:54:02

That's the bait. We're the fish. The advertisers are the diners. ARG is the restaurant.

kinneylamb

29-04-2009 23:23:37

we're the customers and without us the monkey wrench gets thrown in the whole system. and nobody makes any money.

hum1m9e8r8b

29-04-2009 23:54:35

[quote49cb94d2ad="kinneylamb"]we're the customers and without us the monkey wrench gets thrown in the whole system. and nobody makes any money.[/quote49cb94d2ad]
I agree with eeyore. We are a thorn in any diy site's side... we are definitely not their customers. Their customers are advertisers. If we did not exist, diy sites would make even more money because there would be much less completes. The only people diy sites have to keep happy are the advertisers, not us.

ploppsdman

30-04-2009 01:04:30

I can't believe the Better Business Bureau just lets Mpell off the hook. I have an email from Mpell telling me that Mpell is the one whose going to send me the check (with no mention of needing anything further from ARG) and they just #$#ing close the complaint telling me I need to complain about ARG. Really? Go @#$3, yourself. Do we have a ripoff report set up against Mpell? Mpell cost me money and profited off my information and all they have to do is shrug their shoulders and everything goes away for them? @#$32 them.

krisel13

30-04-2009 04:03:02

It's been a year and a half and I have switched from comcast to verizon. That means my e-mail address that i signed up with is not open anymore. Does that mean they are going to DQ me? I haven't moved or anything.

hawke12

30-04-2009 04:41:41

[quote47b9c294aa="ploppsdman"]I can't believe the Better Business Bureau just lets Mpell off the hook. I have an email from Mpell telling me that Mpell is the one whose going to send me the check (with no mention of needing anything further from ARG) and they just #$#ing close the complaint telling me I need to complain about ARG. Really? Go @#$3, yourself. Do we have a ripoff report set up against Mpell? Mpell cost me money and profited off my information and all they have to do is shrug their shoulders and everything goes away for them? @#$32 them.[/quote47b9c294aa]

There's four, take your pick ;)

[code147b9c294aa]http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/436/RipOff0436070.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/416/RipOff0416388.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/419/RipOff0419139.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/418/RipOff0418779.htm[/code147b9c294aa]

hawke12

30-04-2009 04:44:41

[quotef7506ce0d9="krisel13"]It's been a year and a half and I have switched from comcast to verizon. That means my e-mail address that i signed up with is not open anymore. Does that mean they are going to DQ me? I haven't moved or anything.[/quotef7506ce0d9]

At this point I think they will DQ for ANY reason they want to. But, perhaps they will change your INFO, if you explain the circumstance.

Another reason to use WEB based Email for freebies and other stuff on the net. Even if you change ISP's your email will remain the same ;)

PS600REVX

30-04-2009 08:19:53

still no e-mail for me yet. hmm...

Crys2101

30-04-2009 08:27:15

No email for me.

PS600REVX

30-04-2009 08:29:38

[quote84fb45730d="Crys2101"]No email for me.[/quote84fb45730d]

did you receive a 1st audit letter way back when by any chance?

manOFice

30-04-2009 08:42:24

I got a email to all my email address's last night

doylnea

30-04-2009 08:44:02

I love that if you call the number in the email, it just repeats the same message over and over.

DRay9911

30-04-2009 09:13:29

this isn't the whole e-mail i sent, but yeah i played the 'economy' card

[quote5fc8f79a0a]Considering the current state of the economy, how long do you plan on making people wait to be reimbursed for money they spent in good faith?[/quote5fc8f79a0a]

-dan

oleus

30-04-2009 09:20:35

it's really infuriating.

if i thought they really WERE in possession of a large amount of fraudulent receipts that would be one thing; maybe i am just naive but i'd be surprised if many people actually did that and risk losing the money the were owed.

also i assume a lot of the receipts we sent in were email confirmations, email receipts and online invoices, correct? theoretically those could be more easily faked, and also nearly impossible to PROVE as a fake, so what could potentially happen is disturbing - people with legit email/online receipts or invoices could get screwed if they deem those "suspicious" just because it's not a receipt from Best Buy with a store number, timestamp, etc.

i'm really curious as to how they plan to verify the receipts without crossing the line into invasion of privacy, as well.

ohboyitsryan

30-04-2009 09:31:29

[quote41074a6e15="oleus"]it's really infuriating.

if i thought they really WERE in possession of a large amount of fraudulent receipts that would be one thing; maybe i am just naive but i'd be surprised if many people actually did that and risk losing the money the were owed.

also i assume a lot of the receipts we sent in were email confirmations, email receipts and online invoices, correct? theoretically those could be more easily faked, and also nearly impossible to PROVE as a fake, so what could potentially happen is disturbing - people with legit email/online receipts or invoices could get screwed if they deem those "suspicious" just because it's not a receipt from Best Buy with a store number, timestamp, etc.

i'm really curious as to how they plan to verify the receipts without crossing the line into invasion of privacy, as well.[/quote41074a6e15]

ya I thought about that too...I used an online invoice but I already located my bank of america transaction log and found the purchases. hope you guys have bank statements ready to refute once ARG drops the hammer

oleus

30-04-2009 09:33:11

[quote3006f38671="ohboyitsryan"][quote3006f38671="oleus"]it's really infuriating.

if i thought they really WERE in possession of a large amount of fraudulent receipts that would be one thing; maybe i am just naive but i'd be surprised if many people actually did that and risk losing the money the were owed.

also i assume a lot of the receipts we sent in were email confirmations, email receipts and online invoices, correct? theoretically those could be more easily faked, and also nearly impossible to PROVE as a fake, so what could potentially happen is disturbing - people with legit email/online receipts or invoices could get screwed if they deem those "suspicious" just because it's not a receipt from Best Buy with a store number, timestamp, etc.

i'm really curious as to how they plan to verify the receipts without crossing the line into invasion of privacy, as well.[/quote3006f38671]

ya I thought about that too...I used an online invoice but I already located my bank of america transaction log and found the purchases. hope you guys have bank statements ready to refute once ARG drops the hammer[/quote3006f38671]

getting statements/proof of purchases using a credit card will be a breeze, but a couple of the items i bought were via giftcard. that will be trickier won't it?

PS600REVX

30-04-2009 09:45:11

[quote02c44dc1e7="ohboyitsryan"][quote02c44dc1e7="oleus"]it's really infuriating.

if i thought they really WERE in possession of a large amount of fraudulent receipts that would be one thing; maybe i am just naive but i'd be surprised if many people actually did that and risk losing the money the were owed.

also i assume a lot of the receipts we sent in were email confirmations, email receipts and online invoices, correct? theoretically those could be more easily faked, and also nearly impossible to PROVE as a fake, so what could potentially happen is disturbing - people with legit email/online receipts or invoices could get screwed if they deem those "suspicious" just because it's not a receipt from Best Buy with a store number, timestamp, etc.

i'm really curious as to how they plan to verify the receipts without crossing the line into invasion of privacy, as well.[/quote02c44dc1e7]

ya I thought about that too...I used an online invoice but I already located my bank of america transaction log and found the purchases. hope you guys have bank statements ready to refute once ARG drops the hammer[/quote02c44dc1e7]

I bought all 18 of my gifts from actual stores so if they try and DQ me, I know it is a huge scam.

ohboyitsryan

30-04-2009 09:54:45

[quote14fc378f24="oleus"][quote14fc378f24="ohboyitsryan"][quote14fc378f24="oleus"]it's really infuriating.

if i thought they really WERE in possession of a large amount of fraudulent receipts that would be one thing; maybe i am just naive but i'd be surprised if many people actually did that and risk losing the money the were owed.

also i assume a lot of the receipts we sent in were email confirmations, email receipts and online invoices, correct? theoretically those could be more easily faked, and also nearly impossible to PROVE as a fake, so what could potentially happen is disturbing - people with legit email/online receipts or invoices could get screwed if they deem those "suspicious" just because it's not a receipt from Best Buy with a store number, timestamp, etc.

i'm really curious as to how they plan to verify the receipts without crossing the line into invasion of privacy, as well.[/quote14fc378f24]

ya I thought about that too...I used an online invoice but I already located my bank of america transaction log and found the purchases. hope you guys have bank statements ready to refute once ARG drops the hammer[/quote14fc378f24]

getting statements/proof of purchases using a credit card will be a breeze, but a couple of the items i bought were via giftcard. that will be trickier won't it?[/quote14fc378f24]

not too sure about how to recover proof of a giftcard purchase other than physically retaining the receipt. maybe calling visa with the card number? They might have purchase information stored electronically. I honestly have no idea. Going to have to do a bit of research on that one.

oleus

30-04-2009 09:57:17

[quotedc8f529393="ohboyitsryan"][quotedc8f529393="oleus"][quotedc8f529393="ohboyitsryan"][quotedc8f529393="oleus"]it's really infuriating.

if i thought they really WERE in possession of a large amount of fraudulent receipts that would be one thing; maybe i am just naive but i'd be surprised if many people actually did that and risk losing the money the were owed.

also i assume a lot of the receipts we sent in were email confirmations, email receipts and online invoices, correct? theoretically those could be more easily faked, and also nearly impossible to PROVE as a fake, so what could potentially happen is disturbing - people with legit email/online receipts or invoices could get screwed if they deem those "suspicious" just because it's not a receipt from Best Buy with a store number, timestamp, etc.

i'm really curious as to how they plan to verify the receipts without crossing the line into invasion of privacy, as well.[/quotedc8f529393]

ya I thought about that too...I used an online invoice but I already located my bank of america transaction log and found the purchases. hope you guys have bank statements ready to refute once ARG drops the hammer[/quotedc8f529393]

getting statements/proof of purchases using a credit card will be a breeze, but a couple of the items i bought were via giftcard. that will be trickier won't it?[/quotedc8f529393]

not too sure about how to recover proof of a giftcard purchase other than physically retaining the receipt. maybe calling visa with the card number? They might have purchase information stored electronically. I honestly have no idea. Going to have to do a bit of research on that one.[/quotedc8f529393]

luckily i still have the amex giftcards i used and access to the online transaction list and copies of the receipts of the actual items. my main fear is that any kind of email, online etc type of invoice or proof will end up falling into some new ARG "not good enough to verify" category.

i mean, they've gone this far to screw us, why not go all the way like that?

ohboyitsryan

30-04-2009 10:02:37

I don't doubt that invoices and online receipts will be targetted among other methods of receipts, it's just going to come down to the bank statements...I'm guessing they are also going to be looking closely at the people who are owed a lot (excess of $3000) and people who returned a lot of receipts. weeding them out is worth it to ARG over the person who is owed $500

oleus

30-04-2009 10:05:48

[quoteb8c30ec145="ohboyitsryan"]I don't doubt that invoices and online receipts will be targetted among other methods of receipts, it's just going to come down to the bank statements...I'm guessing they are also going to be looking closely at the people who are owed a lot (excess of $3000) and people who returned a lot of receipts. weeding them out is worth it to ARG over the person who is owed $500[/quoteb8c30ec145]

and then when we all send in our credit card, bank or gift card statements/proof, they will be delayed again due to the "overwhelming response to our recent audits".

mark this post for later!

PS600REVX

30-04-2009 10:28:13

[quotee92771461c="ohboyitsryan"]I don't doubt that invoices and online receipts will be targetted among other methods of receipts, it's just going to come down to the bank statements...I'm guessing they are also going to be looking closely at the people who are owed a lot (excess of $3000) and people who returned a lot of receipts. weeding them out is worth it to ARG over the person who is owed $500[/quotee92771461c]

Hey Ryan, I know you received a letter during the 1st audit but did you get the most recent e-mail with the new letter yet?

ohboyitsryan

30-04-2009 10:32:45

[quote6cfc1630b6="PS600REVX"][quote6cfc1630b6="ohboyitsryan"]I don't doubt that invoices and online receipts will be targetted among other methods of receipts, it's just going to come down to the bank statements...I'm guessing they are also going to be looking closely at the people who are owed a lot (excess of $3000) and people who returned a lot of receipts. weeding them out is worth it to ARG over the person who is owed $500[/quote6cfc1630b6]

Hey Ryan, I know you received a letter during the 1st audit but did you get the most recent e-mail with the new letter yet?[/quote6cfc1630b6]

yeah, i got the most recent letter in my email last night. i did not get an audit letter the first time around, though. i'm just anticipating getting a DQ letter now because the receipt i sent in was an invoice (which i called and verified was legitimate before i made the transaction), but i have the necessary bofa information which shows the debits from my account so we'll see what happens. this is just a mess right now.

oleus

30-04-2009 10:43:46

[quotea357626eb8="ohboyitsryan"][quotea357626eb8="PS600REVX"][quotea357626eb8="ohboyitsryan"]I don't doubt that invoices and online receipts will be targetted among other methods of receipts, it's just going to come down to the bank statements...I'm guessing they are also going to be looking closely at the people who are owed a lot (excess of $3000) and people who returned a lot of receipts. weeding them out is worth it to ARG over the person who is owed $500[/quotea357626eb8]

Hey Ryan, I know you received a letter during the 1st audit but did you get the most recent e-mail with the new letter yet?[/quotea357626eb8]

yeah, i got the most recent letter in my email last night. i did not get an audit letter the first time around, though. i'm just anticipating getting a DQ letter now because the receipt i sent in was an invoice (which i called and verified was legitimate before i made the transaction), but i have the necessary bofa information which shows the debits from my account so we'll see what happens. this is just a mess right now.[/quotea357626eb8]

well to be fair i was only speculating that things like online receipts/invoices COULD be a problem given how shady things have become, hopefully i am just being paranoid!!

honestly, if people sent in bogus receipts i just hope ARG quickly DQ's them and send the rest of us our money!!!!

PS600REVX

30-04-2009 11:15:05

[quote1b3fa77117="ohboyitsryan"][quote1b3fa77117="PS600REVX"][quote1b3fa77117="ohboyitsryan"]I don't doubt that invoices and online receipts will be targetted among other methods of receipts, it's just going to come down to the bank statements...I'm guessing they are also going to be looking closely at the people who are owed a lot (excess of $3000) and people who returned a lot of receipts. weeding them out is worth it to ARG over the person who is owed $500[/quote1b3fa77117]

Hey Ryan, I know you received a letter during the 1st audit but did you get the most recent e-mail with the new letter yet?[/quote1b3fa77117]

yeah, i got the most recent letter in my email last night. i did not get an audit letter the first time around, though. i'm just anticipating getting a DQ letter now because the receipt i sent in was an invoice (which i called and verified was legitimate before i made the transaction), but i have the necessary bofa information which shows the debits from my account so we'll see what happens. this is just a mess right now.[/quote1b3fa77117]

Oh ya, that's right. Sorry, I think it was RyanG I'm thinking of.

RyanG

30-04-2009 11:17:14

No, I didn't get the most recent e-mail.

bruman

30-04-2009 11:19:48

So the people that were audited/DQ'd did not get an e-mail?

PS600REVX

30-04-2009 11:25:30

[quote0b9b5ff475="bruman"]So the people that were audited/DQ'd did not get an e-mail?[/quote0b9b5ff475]

Ya, that's why I asked. My brother and I both were audited and cleared the 1st time so maybe the people who got audited the 1st time did not get this 2nd letter? Only time will tell I guess.

chewy

30-04-2009 11:32:09

i never got a audit letter and I never got this last email

Crys2101

30-04-2009 11:45:26

[quoteefd42c0f31="PS600REVX"][quoteefd42c0f31="Crys2101"]No email for me.[/quoteefd42c0f31]

did you receive a 1st audit letter way back when by any chance?[/quoteefd42c0f31]

No, I did not receive an audit letter.

slambam

30-04-2009 11:47:14

[quoted52e3b4865="chewy"]i never got a audit letter and I never got this last email[/quoted52e3b4865]

Same here

ohboyitsryan

30-04-2009 11:47:23

you guys might be getting the letters sometime this week. they might not have had the chance to go through and send them all out at once, even though there should be a master email list. as always, you can email support for more information if you really want that letter.

kinneylamb

30-04-2009 11:48:47

another wonderful, productive day about ARG

krazikorean

30-04-2009 12:20:58

check my email and i have received the audit letter. Basically saying that the prizes will be shipped but due to mass volume they are dealing with. They will be weeding out all the ppl who have "violated the terms". Keeping my fingers crossed. shock

neverendingmoolah

30-04-2009 12:30:14

[quotead4798f02b="DRay9911"]this isn't the whole e-mail i sent, but yeah i played the 'economy' card

[quotead4798f02b]Considering the current state of the economy, how long do you plan on making people wait to be reimbursed for money they spent in good faith?[/quotead4798f02b]

-dan[/quotead4798f02b]

I like this approach. I think I'll send them a similiar response....
Been waiting for this a litte too long!!

ghounds07

30-04-2009 12:37:41

Does anyone have a phone number that people currently answer? I was able to speak with someone who didn't work in a relevant department and he said that they would call me back (which I doubt). But just wondering if there was a phone number that they still answer, I'm sick of that recording and I want to ask them some questions.

kinneylamb

30-04-2009 12:49:35

[quote2ca122c830="krazikorean"]check my email and i have received the audit letter. Basically saying that the prizes will be shipped but due to mass volume they are dealing with. They will be weeding out all the ppl who have "violated the terms". Keeping my fingers crossed. shock[/quote2ca122c830]
right but the emphasis is based on he auditing of the certificates not just the sheer volume.

the email also doesnt say "violated the terms". there were no terms to violate regarding the certificates. they just decided to audit the certificates and what they are looking for is still kinda a mystery.

sorry i have a pet peeve when people dont quote things exactly. the language and the details are so important. esp when youre just reading and you happen to see a post but you never saw the ARG email being talked about.

mariners1999

30-04-2009 12:52:51

[quote86f476cc1a="mariners1999"]Anyone try to contact Brandarama (ARG) at any
other number then their 1-800 number? Just wonder
if all these get you to the customer service area or if
it gets you to someone that can actually help us out?

646-356-8150
(http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/pdfs/ARG-AdvertiserAgency.pdf)

212-268-4535
(http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/contact.php)

646-221-2085 (http//www.redorbit.com/news/technology/728701/active_response_group_acquires_oridian_usa_from_online_media_solutions/index.html)

212-203-3598 (http//www.herculestech.com/portfolio/portfolio.asp?CompanyID=12789&IndustryID=0)

212-696-5977 (looks like this is for transTech the company that was going to buy them out.... http//finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=TTSP.OB)

(http//www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-188905113.html and http//www.zoominfo.com/Search/CompanyDetail.aspx?CompanyID=1135545&cs=QDEVO5lg)


I did also find it interesting that the revenue's for Active Response group look to be about only 20 million.
(http//www.zoominfo.com/Search/CompanyDetail.aspx?CompanyID=1135545&cs=QDEVO5lg)


M[/quote86f476cc1a]

I posted these a few days ago..... You might try them if you have spare time. Don't know which ones work and don't.

M

ghounds07

30-04-2009 13:57:26

Thanks for the numbers, already called a few of those, but will call more tomorrow...

oandm6599

30-04-2009 18:17:06

My wife and I both got emails regarding this audit letter. To me at least that's some glimmer of hope that they're trying to rectify this. I figure any communication right now is better than none, ya know?

skooter22c

30-04-2009 19:49:53

I did not get a first DQ letter and I do not see any email from either Mpell or ARG? For those who got emails, who were they from and what was the subject? have been going through spam folder to make sure it did not get filtered? I only did one Brandarama site, so I am thinking I should be good but want to be sure. Thanks

bruman

30-04-2009 20:35:59

[quote0b0e7d1076="skooter22c"]I did not get a first DQ letter and I do not see any email from either Mpell or ARG? For those who got emails, who were they from and what was the subject? have been going through spam folder to make sure it did not get filtered? I only did one Brandarama site, so I am thinking I should be good but want to be sure. Thanks[/quote0b0e7d1076]

Subject Cash Back Certificate Update
From Name ARG Customer Care
From E-mail email==info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com=info@cashbackcustomercare.cominfo@cashbackcustomercare.com/email

JANGALANG32

01-05-2009 08:41:34

anybody that got the 1st DQ letter that also threatened lawsuit heard anything back?

PS600REVX

01-05-2009 08:49:39

[quote9db712dfd9="JANGALANG32"]anybody that got the 1st DQ letter that also threatened lawsuit heard anything back?[/quote9db712dfd9]

I was cleared but I really didn't threaten lawsuit. Did you ever hear back after you got that 1st reply asking for proof that you kept offers the required time, etc, etc?

JANGALANG32

01-05-2009 09:42:51

[quote7facb2640d="PS600REVX"][quote7facb2640d="JANGALANG32"]anybody that got the 1st DQ letter that also threatened lawsuit heard anything back?[/quote7facb2640d]

I was cleared but I really didn't threaten lawsuit. Did you ever hear back after you got that 1st reply asking for proof that you kept offers the required time, etc, etc?[/quote7facb2640d]

yeah, i asked why the new rules were being enforced on my acct that was setup in 2006 and they replied with the same word for word email saying send in proof of sponsor offers. i replied again asking them to answer my specific questions and not copy and paste the same response that they send to everyone.

mctrask

01-05-2009 11:42:13

[quote91c71158f6="beerman"]ARG posted some responses to lawsuits today, some entertaining reading....they deny a lot....

Search Court Cases [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/AdvSearch_D.jsp?Criteria=active&Submit4=Search] Search Court Cases

[b91c71158f6]Plaintiff SKENZO [/b91c71158f6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 600782-2009 [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=600782-2009]600782-2009
Amount $28,714.21

[b91c71158f6]Plaintiff CX DIGITAL MEDIA INC[/b91c71158f6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case100363-2009[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=100363-2009]100363-2009
Amount $59,852.80

[b91c71158f6]Plaintiff WORKERS COMPENSATION BD OF NYS[/b91c71158f6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 453664-2008[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=453664-2008]453664-2008
Amount $6,750

[b91c71158f6]Plaintiff INTEGRACLICK INC/ CLICKBOOTH[/b91c71158f6]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 102542-2009[=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=102542-2009]102542-2009
Amount(s)
August 2008 - $138,212.40
September 2008 - $315,329.80
October 2008 - $520,476.80
November 2008 - $672,923.70
December 2008 - $740,204.70
Interest - $757,473.52
If my math is right that about $3.1 Million

Anyone think they are getting their money now?[/quote91c71158f6]

It looks like CX Digital Media got their money. They had a judgment against ARG for almost 60 grand. ARG first filed to try and vacate the judgment but then settled with CX a week later according to updated court documents.

kinneylamb

01-05-2009 12:44:07

yea i wish we had more to post about than dq letters and court cases.

kinneylamb

01-05-2009 14:44:15

i received an e-mail from brandarama customer service

Dear me,

Thank you for contacting us.

If we identified inconsistencies with your account in our audit, you were sent a letter in the mail explaining our findings and requesting further information from you. If you have not received a letter, you should be receiving a check as soon as possible.


Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support

mariners1999

01-05-2009 15:14:22

[quote810c99fefd="kinneylamb"]i received an e-mail from brandarama customer service

Dear me,

Thank you for contacting us.

If we identified inconsistencies with your account in our audit, you were sent a letter in the mail explaining our findings and requesting further information from you. If you have not received a letter, [b810c99fefd]you should be receiving a check as soon as possible. [/size810c99fefd][/b810c99fefd]
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support[/quote810c99fefd]

LOL......... The jokes just keep on coming!

bruman

01-05-2009 15:26:35

[quote32cc897179="kinneylamb"]i received an e-mail from brandarama customer service

Dear me,

Thank you for contacting us.

If we identified inconsistencies with your account in our audit, you were sent a letter in the mail explaining our findings and requesting further information from you. If you have not received a letter, you should be receiving a check as soon as possible.


Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support[/quote32cc897179]

Cool, good news. That's what I suspected too. The wording in the e-mail that we all received was referring to the audits that are already in place, not any new ones. Hopefully it won't be too much longer. Anytime pre-July and I'll be happy -- I'm saving most of it for college/apt next Fall. Need some summer spending money too D

orangejuice

01-05-2009 16:05:17

3 grand isnt going to last you too long

oleus

01-05-2009 16:39:19

wow that last email IS good news. let's hope it's true!

RolltheStampede

01-05-2009 17:20:01

Brandarama saying they will ship out SOON, Ideal giving manual credit.
ITS CRAZY I TELL YA, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON!!!

Did nuitech drop the 60 day claus too?

bruman

01-05-2009 18:51:30

[quote1056374371="orangejuice"]3 grand isnt going to last you too long[/quote1056374371]

I'm owed $7.5k... did everything legit and did not receive an audit letter. If they really were trying to screw people (meaning DQ people for no reason), I surely would have been a target. I wasn't, which leads me to believe there is some method to their madness and those that did get audited have at least some kind of suspicious activity suggesting fraud associated with their accounts.

Zags1199

01-05-2009 20:09:18

I agree, bruman; the only question is when we're going to actually see the money.

ikeepsecrets

02-05-2009 05:20:49

never

ploppsdman

02-05-2009 23:26:58

Now they are playing the "check is ALMOST in the mail" card? Next, you'll get this

You email them "Hey, can I expect my check before the end of time?"

They reply "Thank you for contacting us.

We already paid you. Seriously, you spent it on women/men, beer/school loans, and donated a little to charity/porn. You had a great time.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Brandarama Member Support

ploppsdman

02-05-2009 23:28:58

Now that I think about it, charity porn is a great idea.

manOFice

03-05-2009 11:52:25

I would expect some checks being shipped this coming week, wait and see people, wait and see ;)

and i just noticed that i received a offer credit that I did like 2 years ago, lol

ohboyitsryan

03-05-2009 13:05:14

[quote5080ac6760="manOFice"]I would expect some checks being shipped this coming week, wait and see people, wait and see ;)

and i just noticed that i received a offer credit that I did like 2 years ago, lol[/quote5080ac6760]

we'll see. it would be a good business move on their part to send a few checks out this week or relatively soon to restore some faith in their company, which will also encourage more people to entertain the notion of completing more brandarama sites.

ploppsdman

03-05-2009 13:56:07

[quote912d0190f4="manOFice"]I would expect some checks being shipped this coming week, wait and see people, wait and see ;)
[/quote912d0190f4]

Yeah, a check for a 2 liter bottle of Faygo.

Zags1199

03-05-2009 14:45:02

Dude, Faygo rules.

RolltheStampede

04-05-2009 06:28:01

Not as much as Fanta
http//la.metblogs.com/archives/fanta.jpg[" alt=""/img46b1794b4c]

"Don't you wanta?"

skooter22c

04-05-2009 07:44:19

Anyone else try logging into their yourtopbrands.com account today? I logged in and there is not status info or even the offers I did and didn't do? Is this typical with them as they make updates sort of like ideal? This is the only site i have done with brandarama.

chewy

04-05-2009 09:07:50

[quote94dcacea54="ohboyitsryan"][quote94dcacea54="manOFice"]I would expect some checks being shipped this coming week, wait and see people, wait and see ;)

and i just noticed that i received a offer credit that I did like 2 years ago, lol[/quote94dcacea54]

we'll see. it would be a good business move on their part to send a few checks out this week or relatively soon to restore some faith in their company, which will also encourage more people to entertain the notion of completing more brandarama sites.[/quote94dcacea54]

realistically I cant picture myself completing one of their sites anymore even if I got a check today. This is especially true with their restrictive rules. So I dont see why they care. The only people they care about are the ones who know nothing about what is going on.

manOFice

04-05-2009 09:13:03

[quotef575fbaf37="chewy"][quotef575fbaf37="ohboyitsryan"][quotef575fbaf37="manOFice"]I would expect some checks being shipped this coming week, wait and see people, wait and see ;)

and i just noticed that i received a offer credit that I did like 2 years ago, lol[/quotef575fbaf37]

we'll see. it would be a good business move on their part to send a few checks out this week or relatively soon to restore some faith in their company, which will also encourage more people to entertain the notion of completing more brandarama sites.[/quotef575fbaf37]

realistically I cant picture myself completing one of their sites anymore even if I got a check today. This is especially true with their restrictive rules. So I dont see why they care. The only people they care about are the ones who know nothing about what is going on.[/quotef575fbaf37]

yeah when I get my check, i'm not doing anymore of their sites

ohboyitsryan

04-05-2009 09:15:38

yup I'm done as well, directing all my people towards I-deal.

oleus

04-05-2009 09:16:04

neither am i (and that's IF i ever get a check, still not buying into recent optimism here). however, i don't think brandarama WANTS people like us to do their sites again. that almost makes it tempting!

RolltheStampede

04-05-2009 09:21:06

[quotebccd7dedf8="manOFice"][quotebccd7dedf8="chewy"][quotebccd7dedf8="ohboyitsryan"][quotebccd7dedf8="manOFice"]I would expect some checks being shipped this coming week, wait and see people, wait and see ;)

and i just noticed that i received a offer credit that I did like 2 years ago, lol[/quotebccd7dedf8]

we'll see. it would be a good business move on their part to send a few checks out this week or relatively soon to restore some faith in their company, which will also encourage more people to entertain the notion of completing more brandarama sites.[/quotebccd7dedf8]

realistically I cant picture myself completing one of their sites anymore even if I got a check today. This is especially true with their restrictive rules. So I dont see why they care. The only people they care about are the ones who know nothing about what is going on.[/quotebccd7dedf8]

yeah when I get my check, i'm not doing anymore of their sites[/quotebccd7dedf8]

I was done with them in 07, which sucks cause i almost was done before the mpell mess if they had stuck to the way there were shipping

ploppsdman

04-05-2009 10:12:34

Anyone know the statute of limitations for fraud? I'm wondering if this endless delay is simply a stall tactic to get past that statute.

ploppsdman

04-05-2009 11:11:28

A google search of Mpell leads only to this ripoff report. It makes Mpell look good, so I would recommend to whoever has not sent in a ripoff report to comment here

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/418/RipOff0418779.htm

neverendingmoolah

04-05-2009 11:12:47

[quoted10318da3e="ploppsdman"]Anyone know the statute of limitations for fraud? I'm wondering if this endless delay is simply a stall tactic to get past that statute.[/quoted10318da3e]

There is a two year statute of limitations for filing a claim for a civil action. The statute begins at the time the transaction first occurs. Also there is an extended two year statute where fraud is involved. As a requirement the claimant would have to prove their claim was filed within two years of their discovery of the fraudulent activity. However, the trick here would be proving when the claimaint first learned the fraud existed.

mctrask

04-05-2009 12:18:23

[quotefb3f545808="neverendingmoolah"][quotefb3f545808="ploppsdman"]Anyone know the statute of limitations for fraud? I'm wondering if this endless delay is simply a stall tactic to get past that statute.[/quotefb3f545808]

There is a two year statute of limitations for filing a claim for a civil action. The statute begins at the time the transaction first occurs. Also there is an extended two year statute where fraud is involved. As a requirement the claimant would have to prove their claim was filed within two years of their discovery of the fraudulent activity. However, the trick here would be proving when the claimaint first learned the fraud existed.[/quotefb3f545808]

The MPell certificates made it a whole new ballgame in regard to statues of limitation. The discovery of the alleged fraud would begin after 10 weeks has elapsed and the promised payment was not received. ARG can whine about overwhelming response and needing to audit the receipts but the fact is that they are now in violation of FTC standards governing rebates as well as several state's laws.

Zags1199

04-05-2009 13:14:51

I e-mailed them asking if they expected shipments to start this week and their response was, "Gift shipments go out every week."

mariners1999

04-05-2009 13:32:02

[quotef154ba66c5="Zags1199"]I e-mailed them asking if they expected shipments to start this week and their response was,[bf154ba66c5] "Gift shipments go out every week[/sizef154ba66c5].[/bf154ba66c5]"[/quotef154ba66c5]

So just a "coincidence" that no one here has gotten a check. roll
Gift Shipments could be 1-2 checks a week then we are 2 years off before we get paid.......... Just would like to see one or two people here get something.

M

chewy

04-05-2009 13:54:16

[quotea1f45a75d7="Zags1199"]I e-mailed them asking if they expected shipments to start this week and their response was, "Gift shipments go out every week."[/quotea1f45a75d7]


i laughed out loud when i read that

ohboyitsryan

04-05-2009 14:02:22

[quote43dfc5bb06="Zags1199"]I e-mailed them asking if they expected shipments to start this week and their response was, "Gift shipments go out every week."[/quote43dfc5bb06]

like was stated before, ARG is shipping, just no love for mpell folk yet

Zags1199

04-05-2009 15:58:04

Like I've stated before, I'm not part of the Mpell group. Supposedly, I'm on the expedited list. Yeah, that makes me super duper excited.

And even still, there have been less than five people who have actually received something. It's more like "one person's gift is being sent weekly."

manOFice

04-05-2009 16:37:42

[quoteeb934f70d4="Zags1199"]Like I've stated before, I'm not part of the Mpell group. Supposedly, I'm on the expedited list. Yeah, that makes me super duper excited.

And even still, there have been less than five people who have actually received something. It's more like "one person's gift is being sent weekly."[/quoteeb934f70d4]

Did they give you an estimate of when your "expedited" check will be shipped?

mistertomlinson

04-05-2009 17:22:16

I'm late to respond, but I am worried about completing another ARG site for fear of repeating an offer or making a simple mistake and having them take my ass to court for every drop of money I've ever gotten from them.

Zags1199

04-05-2009 17:30:03

No, they just said I'm on the list, and they don't know when it will ship. They said they hope it will be soon, but we've all heard that line before. I guess I'll cross my fingers and try to stay optimistic about it.

jfoster5111@yahoo.com

04-05-2009 18:35:49

Anyone else have all of their site give them this error?

Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)

2 of my sites showed no offers yesterday, and today I get this error on all sites. Of course I wrote them, but I do not expect a response.

manOFice

04-05-2009 18:40:33

[quotef879f92d82="jfoster5111@yahoo.com"]Anyone else have all of their site give them this error?

Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)

2 of my sites showed no offers yesterday, and today I get this error on all sites. Of course I wrote them, but I do not expect a response.[/quotef879f92d82]

no all mine are fine. And I don't see why you would expect them not to respond? I haven't had a ticket go unanswered ever.

Eeyore

04-05-2009 19:24:08

[quote90433db9f6="jfoster5111@yahoo.com"]2 of my sites showed no offers yesterday, and today I get this error on all sites. [/quote90433db9f6]
Read back the last several pages and you'll see you are not alone, and that it is usually cleared up by contacting support.

fanofpurple

05-05-2009 03:59:46

[quote12dc556139="jfoster5111@yahoo.com"]Anyone else have all of their site give them this error?

Sorry, could not log you in. Please contact us if you're having problems. (Code = 0)

2 of my sites showed no offers yesterday, and today I get this error on all sites. Of course I wrote them, but I do not expect a response.[/quote12dc556139]

That happened to me too - and they fixed it - and each day since then, when I do log in - nothing is there. So it was fixed briefly.

JANGALANG32

05-05-2009 12:03:21

has anyone that got an audit letter and threatened lawsuit heard anything back? it seems like they might of reached an agreement but were told not to post anything. anybody heard back?

oleus

05-05-2009 12:17:37

[quotec690b56b37="JANGALANG32"]has anyone that got an audit letter and threatened lawsuit heard anything back? it seems like they might of reached an agreement but were told not to post anything. anybody heard back?[/quotec690b56b37]

seems to me like they just gave up posting.

bruman

05-05-2009 12:41:16

One of the guys who got an audit letter/e-mail response, he said the bottom of the e-mail had a disclaimer saying he wasn't allowed to discuss publicly the investigation.

manOFice

05-05-2009 12:44:46

[quote27370828f5="bruman"]One of the guys who got an audit letter/e-mail response, he said the bottom of the e-mail had a disclaimer saying he wasn't allowed to discuss publicly the investigation.[/quote27370828f5]

yeah notice how most of the people who got audit letters aren't posting crap anymore lol I assume they are working through it

freeballin'

05-05-2009 13:35:33

I got the email and i didnt get an audit from before

RolltheStampede

05-05-2009 14:24:18

Eh they all just joined Fight Club

livingloud28

06-05-2009 07:11:59

I would bet the farm that we arent going to see anything !

oleus

06-05-2009 07:54:07

[quote45668b31dc="livingloud28"]I would bet the farm that we arent going to see anything ![/quote45668b31dc]

me too

just seems like if they were really sending out checks on a weekly basis someone would have seen something by now.

ploppsdman

06-05-2009 10:00:29

More and more I'm considering joining the lawsuit crowd. I don't like being jerked around and that mpell cert. stuff has me royally pissed.

dougp70

06-05-2009 10:14:41

No shit. C'mon, why not at least send out the checks for the people who aren't being audited? WTF, I am getting so pissed.

ohboyitsryan

06-05-2009 10:20:07

has anybody gotten through to them on the phones? haven't been able to in like a 1.5-2 weeks...

kwoodyk34k

06-05-2009 10:46:19

[quote3498cc6063="JANGALANG32"]has anyone that got an audit letter and threatened lawsuit heard anything back? it seems like they might of reached an agreement but were told not to post anything. anybody heard back?[/quote3498cc6063]

No.. they don't even read them.
They keep copying and pasting the same response that I have violated the current certificate rules which it states new rules

And then I say that the terms weren't in place over a year ago and that out of 102030394 offers I only repeated less than 5%

And then they reply with the exact same thing only with a snobby "As we have already told you," intro.

I've got the same response 3 times from them.

oleus

06-05-2009 10:48:51

sure seems like they are just waiting things out to file bankrupcy to pull the rug out from under all of us.

ohboyitsryan

06-05-2009 10:59:01

[quoted5e87d6d26="oleus"]sure seems like they are just waiting things out to file bankrupcy to pull the rug out from under all of us.[/quoted5e87d6d26]

doubt it. they are just trying to get their paper in order. they obviously can't tell us that the delays are because they can't afford to fulfill, so they are probably stacking chips little by little until they can afford payout.

ploppsdman

06-05-2009 12:11:49

[quoteec82f96551="ohboyitsryan"][quoteec82f96551="oleus"]sure seems like they are just waiting things out to file bankrupcy to pull the rug out from under all of us.[/quoteec82f96551]

doubt it. they are just trying to get their paper in order. they obviously can't tell us that the delays are because they can't afford to fulfill, so they are probably stacking chips little by little until they can afford payout.[/quoteec82f96551]

If you have a legitimate claim above $200 it is evident they will not be paying you. I think its time to push the endgame and file lawsuits to get them to bankruptcy and at least we can kill them off.

mariners1999

06-05-2009 12:12:34

[quote4c277bef6e="ohboyitsryan"][quote4c277bef6e="oleus"]sure seems like they are just waiting things out to file bankrupcy to pull the rug out from under all of us.[/quote4c277bef6e]

doubt it. they are just trying to get their paper in order. they obviously can't tell us that the delays are because they can't afford to fulfill, so they are probably stacking chips little by little until they can afford payout.[/quote4c277bef6e]


Unfortunately I see no reason to be this optimistic.... They have shown no movement in payments. We are now well into the 1st week of May and for many on week 13-14 or so after the whole MPell deal.

They dismissed Mpell and came up with another "reason" to delay payments. I am starting to believe that they are stalling for 2 years to be up for some of us so they can get out of payments due to stat of limitations.

Once we see SOMEONE here get shipped a check they are due I will feel some better but until I see someone get their money from the Mpell forms I tend to be a realist and believe we will never see even a dime of what is owed to us.

M

RyanG

06-05-2009 12:17:21

[quote0870c272db="manOFice"][quote0870c272db="bruman"]One of the guys who got an audit letter/e-mail response, he said the bottom of the e-mail had a disclaimer saying he wasn't allowed to discuss publicly the investigation.[/quote0870c272db]

yeah notice how most of the people who got audit letters aren't posting crap anymore lol I assume they are working through it[/quote0870c272db]

I was moving hence my lack of posting.

I still didn't receive the most recent e-mail but have been told by ARG the same thing through a support ticket. Haven't heard anything else though.

kinneylamb

06-05-2009 12:24:13

they were sending checks to people, just not mpell checks.

i do think they will be mailing checks out soon. the second audit can only take so long. not a good move if it was just to buy time.

ploppsdman

06-05-2009 12:29:20

[quote7010be1c75="kinneylamb"]they were sending checks to people, just not mpell checks.

i do think they will be mailing checks out soon. the second audit can only take so long. not a good move if it was just to buy time.[/quote7010be1c75]

I've made offers of them sending me 1/2 of what I'm owed and never heard a peep from them ... if they had intentions of paying us, would they ignore that offer? We're getting nothing, time to accept that and turn to at least getting rid of Brandarama with lawsuits.

ploppsdman

06-05-2009 12:39:37

And don't let Mpell of the hook either .... contribute to the ripoff reports.

ohboyitsryan

06-05-2009 12:50:23

I'm still amazed that nobody from NY has taken a trip to their building for an attempt at some human to human contact

mariners1999

06-05-2009 13:35:53

[quotedf99a62c62="kinneylamb"]they were sending checks to people, just not mpell checks.

i do think they will be mailing checks out soon. the second audit can only take so long. not a good move if it was just to buy time.[/quotedf99a62c62]

Not a good move???? Come on that is the [bdf99a62c62]PERFECT MOVE!!![/bdf99a62c62]

If you can get to the 2 year mark they will be past the Stat of Limitations and be home free! You can't sue them at that point. And for many of us from 2007 that 2 years is just around the corner!!!

twisted

bruman

06-05-2009 13:47:02

[quote7e2cebdfc8="mariners1999"][quote7e2cebdfc8="ohboyitsryan"][quote7e2cebdfc8="oleus"]sure seems like they are just waiting things out to file bankrupcy to pull the rug out from under all of us.[/quote7e2cebdfc8]

doubt it. they are just trying to get their paper in order. they obviously can't tell us that the delays are because they can't afford to fulfill, so they are probably stacking chips little by little until they can afford payout.[/quote7e2cebdfc8]


Unfortunately I see no reason to be this optimistic.... They have shown no movement in payments. We are now well into the 1st week of May and for many on week 13-14 or so after the whole MPell deal.

They dismissed Mpell and came up with another "reason" to delay payments. I am starting to believe that they are stalling for 2 years to be up for some of us so they can get out of payments due to stat of limitations.

Once we see SOMEONE here get shipped a check they are due I will feel some better but until I see someone get their money from the Mpell forms I tend to be a realist and believe we will never see even a dime of what is owed to us.

M[/quote7e2cebdfc8]

Nooo.. I thought you were on my side. ;)
All well, I'll be the lone optimist, I'm fine with that. I still see plenty of indications that we'll get paid. Most of my gifts are from Mid-2008 and I know a lot of others are too.. to think they have some evil plan to stall on us until July 2010 or something is just a tad bit paranoid. And since when is being a realist some kind of paranoid pessimist? I think I'm being plenty real and rational-- I'm looking at the actual evidence of what's being seen and looking at it from a business perspective as well.

mariners1999

06-05-2009 13:53:46

Bruman,

I am always on your side.... lol wink Just today I got up on the pessimistic side of the bed.

I think if they had the money at least some of the people here would have received a check by now. I find no reason to be optimistic at this point. Why are they stalling? They have had 19-20+ months on a lot of peoples accounts to investigate "fraud" but have always had some reason to be behind. This just seems like another stall technique. No I don't think they are going to file for Bankruptcy. They could have already done that and listed the people that they DQ'd as creditors to get a bigger writeoff.

BUT I am concerned that now that we are 14+ weeks past the whole MPell thing that Nothing has been sent except for an email that states "due to such a huge response we have delays"..... where have I heard that before?

LucaBella

06-05-2009 13:56:00

They're broke and we'll never get paid. You know it's sad but true.

zr2152

06-05-2009 14:04:58

[quoteceb4c5bc8a="LucaBella"]They're broke and we'll never get paid. You know it's sad but true.[/quoteceb4c5bc8a]

Link me to somewhere that shows they are broke.

Eeyore

06-05-2009 14:32:42

Wouldn't it be funny if the whole Mpell thing was just a ruse to collect receipts they could then write off their taxable income? Think about that...

mariners1999

06-05-2009 14:34:54

[quotef8451a16b0="zr2152"][quotef8451a16b0="LucaBella"]They're broke and we'll never get paid. You know it's sad but true.[/quotef8451a16b0]

Link me to somewhere that shows they are broke.[/quotef8451a16b0]

Agree with you zr2152........

If they were going to declare Bankruptcy they would have already done it.

Why drag this out and then declare. That would make no sense. I think the only thing that they are doing is either trying to get to 2 years and DQ those people or they will begin payments in the next few weeks after another round of DQ letters.

M

tp24

06-05-2009 14:37:59

Bankruptcy doesn't do us any good. We're pretty much at their mercy.

RyanG

06-05-2009 15:22:49

[quoteca83fc1d16="zr2152"][quoteca83fc1d16="LucaBella"]They're broke and we'll never get paid. You know it's sad but true.[/quoteca83fc1d16]

Link me to somewhere that shows they are broke.[/quoteca83fc1d16]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=69840

D

zr2152

06-05-2009 15:28:53

) Funny.

fanofpurple

06-05-2009 16:05:47

[quoteb3d51f34e1="Eeyore"]Wouldn't it be funny if the whole Mpell thing was just a ruse to collect receipts they could then write off their taxable income? Think about that...[/quoteb3d51f34e1]

Now that is funny - never thought about it - but I sure wouldn't put it past them.

bruman

06-05-2009 16:09:29

We are in our tight little bubble here and I think most of the panic is peoples inability to look beyond that.

I've said pretty much all I can say about the situation in previous posts. But they obviously are not broke.. that's ridiculous to even suggest looking at the facts, which are

- They are getting 500k+ unique visitors every single month on many of their websites.
proof
http//www.quantcast.com/yourproductsamples.com
http//www.quantcast.com/yourtopbrands.com
http//www.quantcast.com/giftitamerica.com

- They are still being advertised PLENTY through hydranetwork, primaryads, etc.
proof http//img="13.imageshack.us" alt=""/img13/9207/hydraz.jpg

- They have three offices in New York and Colorado with plenty (at least 25+) employees who all get well-paid salaries and benefits.
proof http//www.jigsaw.com/id349106/active_response_group_company.xhtml

- They very recently (job posting April 21) are hiring two new people for their Colorado office at $10.25 an hour
proof
http//colorado.uloop.com/jobs/view.php/449402

- They are purchasing and registering new domains...
proof
brandaramaselect.com (registered April 15th)
http//whois.domaintools.com/brandaramaselect.com
cashbackcustomercare.com (registered April 28th)
http//whois.domaintools.com/cashbackcustomercare.com

- They took the time to completely reformat all their sites. Changed the terms, implemented the cancellation policy and so forth.

This is a corporation... millions of dollars flows through these guys hands every year. They have connections with many others big names in the affiliate marketing scene. Advertising is not cheap either.. they have to be paying hydra tons of money every month to do it (as you can see, about $1.30 a pop), or else Hydra would cut them off -- but they've been with them for years.

As to why there are still delays... it's because this whole mpell situation did not go as they planned. They weren't expecting as many responses as they did.

But with all the traffic they get, with all the advertising they're doing, with the new cancellation terms, with the increased offer requirements and with the decreased gift values (a lot of their new sites are for 'samples' of extremely cheap products -- which is smart because people are more likely to submit their e-mail and believe they can get some johnsons baby relief formula than a $500 gift card), and so on... so they are going to be making plenty of profit off these new policies which a portion will go toward paying us. 500k a month -- obviously they are still (you don't see this in our bubble) getting plenty of sign-ups (which they also sell their personal info to other marketers for big bucks) and plenty of offer completions. But they would not have gone through all this trouble of mpell, audits, term changes, etc. if their intention was to never pay us. I'm sure they set some money aside to pay us but when they realized how many responses they got for this promotion they were "overwhelmed". As I said in the past, we're low priority to them when compared to, for example, HydraNetwork, or some survey advertiser they are connected with... if they miss a payment with them they are in trouble, with us -- we're just individuals, so they can string us along without immediate consequence. So I'm pretty much raving now and this is a ridiculously long post so I'll shut up now but they obviously are not broke and not going bankrupt.. we'll get our checks, it's only a matter of when -- and i don't think it's going to be a ridiculous length like 6+ more months or something like that. I think we should just give them time.. there's nothing else we can do right now (besides complain on here which is always cause for good conversation )).

ploppsdman

06-05-2009 16:22:00

Look, they are taking the same route that insurers take Delay and Deny. If we don't start putting pressure on them, there is no reason they'll start paying us. At this point I want 1 of 2 things either we get paid or Brandrama stops existing because of lawsuits.

mistertomlinson

06-05-2009 16:39:59

[quotef99b7f117b="bruman"]We are in our tight little bubble here and I think most of the panic is peoples inability to look beyond that.

I've said pretty much all I can say about the situation in previous posts. But they obviously are not broke.. that's ridiculous to even suggest looking at the facts, which are

- They are getting 500k+ unique visitors every single month on many of their websites.
proof
http//www.quantcast.com/yourproductsamples.com
http//www.quantcast.com/yourtopbrands.com
http//www.quantcast.com/giftitamerica.com

- They are still being advertised PLENTY through hydranetwork, primaryads, etc.
proof http//img="13.imageshack.us" alt=""/img13/9207/hydraz.jpg

- They have three offices in New York and Colorado with plenty (at least 25+) employees who all get well-paid salaries and benefits.
proof http//www.jigsaw.com/id349106/active_response_group_company.xhtml

- They very recently (job posting April 21) are hiring two new people for their Colorado office at $10.25 an hour
proof
http//colorado.uloop.com/jobs/view.php/449402

- They are purchasing and registering new domains...
proof
brandaramaselect.com (registered April 15th)
http//whois.domaintools.com/brandaramaselect.com
cashbackcustomercare.com (registered April 28th)
http//whois.domaintools.com/cashbackcustomercare.com

- They took the time to completely reformat all their sites. Changed the terms, implemented the cancellation policy and so forth.

This is a corporation... millions of dollars flows through these guys hands every year. They have connections with many others big names in the affiliate marketing scene. Advertising is not cheap either.. they have to be paying hydra tons of money every month to do it (as you can see, about $1.30 a pop), or else Hydra would cut them off -- but they've been with them for years.

As to why there are still delays... it's because this whole mpell situation did not go as they planned. They weren't expecting as many responses as they did.

But with all the traffic they get, with all the advertising they're doing, with the new cancellation terms, with the increased offer requirements and with the decreased gift values (a lot of their new sites are for 'samples' of extremely cheap products -- which is smart because people are more likely to submit their e-mail and believe they can get some johnsons baby relief formula than a $500 gift card), and so on... so they are going to be making plenty of profit off these new policies which a portion will go toward paying us. 500k a month -- obviously they are still (you don't see this in our bubble) getting plenty of sign-ups (which they also sell their personal info to other marketers for big bucks) and plenty of offer completions. But they would not have gone through all this trouble of mpell, audits, term changes, etc. if their intention was to never pay us. I'm sure they set some money aside to pay us but when they realized how many responses they got for this promotion they were "overwhelmed". As I said in the past, we're low priority to them when compared to, for example, HydraNetwork, or some survey advertiser they are connected with... if they miss a payment with them they are in trouble, with us -- we're just individuals, so they can string us along without immediate consequence. So I'm pretty much raving now and this is a ridiculously long post so I'll shut up now but they obviously are not broke and not going bankrupt.. we'll get our checks, it's only a matter of when -- and i don't think it's going to be a ridiculous length like 6+ more months or something like that. I think we should just give them time.. there's nothing else we can do right now (besides complain on here which is always cause for good conversation )).[/quotef99b7f117b]

Well said.

tp24

06-05-2009 16:42:12

Why would you want them to stop existing? This may sound evil, but if they're pulling in(scamming) other customers, then that means they'll have the money to pay us.

ghounds07

06-05-2009 16:45:14

[quotee6e27d10a2="mariners1999"][quotee6e27d10a2="kinneylamb"]they were sending checks to people, just not mpell checks.

i do think they will be mailing checks out soon. the second audit can only take so long. not a good move if it was just to buy time.[/quotee6e27d10a2]

Not a good move???? Come on that is the [be6e27d10a2]PERFECT MOVE!!![/be6e27d10a2]

If you can get to the 2 year mark they will be past the Stat of Limitations and be home free! You can't sue them at that point. And for many of us from 2007 that 2 years is just around the corner!!!

twisted[/quotee6e27d10a2]

LOL, easy with the statute of limitations, don't really think that applies here.

mctrask

06-05-2009 16:53:29

[quote6dcdd5f7e6="mariners1999"][quote6dcdd5f7e6="zr2152"][quote6dcdd5f7e6="LucaBella"]They're broke and we'll never get paid. You know it's sad but true.[/quote6dcdd5f7e6]

Link me to somewhere that shows they are broke.[/quote6dcdd5f7e6]

Agree with you zr2152........

If they were going to declare Bankruptcy they would have already done it.

Why drag this out and then declare. That would make no sense. I think the only thing that they are doing is either trying to get to 2 years and DQ those people or they will begin payments in the next few weeks after another round of DQ letters.

M[/quote6dcdd5f7e6]

First ARG doesn't send out any 1099's for 2008 which is a big no no. Then they jump on the MPell wagon right in the middle of a pending acquisition by Transtech. In March Transtech drops ARG faster than a lead balloon. Then there are the lawsuits.

Either ARG is in a serious cash negative position and they can't pay us or they are trying to make their books look better than they are to attract another buyer/investor and they won't pay us because it wrecks havoc on their bottom line. Either way, those 7000 MPell certificates are an anchor around their neck and they aren't going to pay until either the FTC or the NY AG steps in. We can't sue them because we agreed to arbitration when we signed up for their sites. The only choices we have are either to file the appropriate complaints and hope that enough people do the same so that a government entity steps in and sues on our behalf or file for arbitration.

I'd be surprised if more than a few people at ARG knew what was really going on with the finances at this company and if there really is a BOD, my guess is that Brad may be hiding a few things from them.

mariners1999

06-05-2009 16:56:40

[quote6999860b1e="ghounds07"][quote6999860b1e="mariners1999"][quote6999860b1e="kinneylamb"]they were sending checks to people, just not mpell checks.

i do think they will be mailing checks out soon. the second audit can only take so long. not a good move if it was just to buy time.[/quote6999860b1e]

Not a good move???? Come on that is the [b6999860b1e]PERFECT MOVE!!![/b6999860b1e]

If you can get to the 2 year mark they will be past the Stat of Limitations and be home free! You can't sue them at that point. And for many of us from 2007 that 2 years is just around the corner!!!

twisted[/quote6999860b1e]

LOL, easy with the statute of limitations, don't really think that applies here.[/quote6999860b1e]

roll

Lets not get into a pissing match about what does and does not apply.

I have contacted 2 contract law lawyers in my area about this and they both inform me that it does apply in their opinion. (not dispensing legal advise but what I was told about my specific situation) They also informed me that in their opinion it would be a waste of money and time to sue ARG for what little I am owed.

As a side note neither would take the case on a contingent basis due to the expense and issues collecting if we even win a judgement.

Just an FYI for people to keep in mind.


M

mistertomlinson

07-05-2009 05:38:17

ARG will not be skipping out on payments because of a statute of limitation... that's just silly. Secondly, if any of you are actually worried about this, consider we are now owed rebates for purchases made just a few months ago as per our "new" agreement we never agreed to, so I don't think any statute would hold up.

oleus

07-05-2009 07:52:24

[quoteefe2600588="mistertomlinson"]ARG will not be skipping out on payments because of a statute of limitation... that's just silly. Secondly, if any of you are actually worried about this, consider we are now owed rebates for purchases made just a few months ago as per our "new" agreement we never agreed to, so I don't think any statute would hold up.[/quoteefe2600588]

true, but they may skip out on payments for entirely different reasons, like "because they can"??

hawke12

07-05-2009 08:25:45

[quote49f8bb90f9="mctrask"]We can't sue them because we agreed to arbitration when we signed up for their sites.[/quote49f8bb90f9]

Not True ;)

My wife just won a Lawsuit a few months ago, where the "Arbitration" claus of the contract was brought up by the Defendant's. With the RIGHT lawyer anything is possible.

And that was after our lawyer said beating an arbitration clause is next to impossible.

oleus

07-05-2009 08:30:44

with the current lack of any new information other than the SAME form-reply from ARG, it's starting to seem like the only people who will see money are the ones willing to take a big hit on their payout by getting a lawyer.

neverendingmoolah

07-05-2009 09:03:48

When it comes to fraud the statute of limitationsis extended another 2 years from when the fraud was first discovered by the plaintiff. That said, ARG would not beneift from delaying or stalling us another 6 months because the sol simply would not toll within this time period. Instead, the period to file would be extended another 2 years by the Mpell certificates they sent out in January.

mariners1999

07-05-2009 09:36:25

[quote1fd4b0d71b="neverendingmoolah"]When it comes to fraud the statute of limitationsis extended another 2 years from when the fraud was first discovered by the plaintiff. That said, ARG would not beneift from delaying or stalling us another 6 months because the sol simply would not toll within this time period. Instead, the period to file would be extended another 2 years by the Mpell certificates they sent out in January.[/quote1fd4b0d71b]

Neverending.....

Cool Dude. Will you represent me then on a contingent basis? Like I said I have two lawyers that I have met with that disagree with you. Both specialize in contract law.

Either way it is irrelevant. If I was owed 5k or more it might be worth a few thousand to sue and take ARG to court but what little I am owed I guess I will just sit here for another month and see what everyone else and ARG do in the mean time.

M ?

ghounds07

07-05-2009 10:05:22

Well I got a hold of their CFO and he transferred me to the "people who are handling the situation" (what a joke). Transferred me to someone who obviously wasn't there (Rachel), and I left her a message. Will be calling back in a day or two if she doesn't call me back.

dougp70

07-05-2009 10:08:57

They aren't HANDLING shit.

ohboyitsryan

07-05-2009 10:38:25

[quote391f4f243b="neverendingmoolah"]When it comes to fraud the statute of limitationsis extended another 2 years from when the fraud was first discovered by the plaintiff. That said, ARG would not beneift from delaying or stalling us another 6 months because the sol simply would not toll within this time period. Instead, the period to file would be extended another 2 years by the Mpell certificates they sent out in January.[/quote391f4f243b]

why haven't you done anything to get your paper considering all the legal rhetoric you spit on these forums

manOFice

07-05-2009 10:54:38

yeah their not doing anything this week, they have failed another week

ohboyitsryan

07-05-2009 11:29:23

its been 58 failed weeks for me, and i'm far from the worst case.

mariners1999

07-05-2009 11:41:00

[quotefdec644472="ohboyitsryan"]its been 58 failed weeks for me, and i'm far from the worst case.[/quotefdec644472]

Lol... That is a good way to look at it.... 72 failed weeks for me and counting! lol

freeipodplayer

07-05-2009 13:18:54

If people think we can't sue Brandarama because of what is stated in the TandC, should read up on Brandarama 2.5 years ago on this exact forum where 5 people sued and won in small claims court.

)

Eeyore

07-05-2009 13:49:23

Did they collect?

supersponger1979

07-05-2009 14:24:17

How did you get a hold of the CFO? Can we have a number so we can call and "check" on things? )

Eeyore

07-05-2009 14:31:13

http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/who_who.php

bruman

07-05-2009 20:42:36

Also mind you they sent out the mass e-mail stating delays only 8 days ago. If they were planning on shipping stuff out this week I doubt they would of even bothered to send out that e-mail.

Really the timeline for this new process is...

January 28th- Mpell Promotion Begins
February 28th- Mpell Promotion Ends
8 weeks later..
April 29th- Official Notification of delays

If you look at it from that perspective it isn't TOO bad. We're only a week or so into the official notification of delays, so I don't think we needn't fret just yet. I know a lot of us (myself included) check this thread multiple times a day so you know we're constantly exposing ourselves daily to all this stress and panic of this whole situation, so it probably seems worse than it really is.

kinneylamb

07-05-2009 21:59:02

yea i was just gonna say that.

keep in mind they officially sent us the e-mail about the audit of the certificates a week ago. we could give them a little more time, based on that, but something would have to happen soon after that.

Crys2101

07-05-2009 23:41:35

I was hoping those of us who did not receive that email and who were not audited may see something soon. I know realize that I was delusional.

hawke12

08-05-2009 05:42:49

[code1f24b07dd33]http://www.aboutus.org/ActiveResponseGroup.com[/code1f24b07dd33]

manOFice

08-05-2009 06:58:34

[quote12ceb0b74b="bruman"]Also mind you they sent out the mass e-mail stating delays only 8 days ago. If they were planning on shipping stuff out this week I doubt they would of even bothered to send out that e-mail.

Really the timeline for this new process is...

[b12ceb0b74b]we started in 2007!!![/b12ceb0b74b][/size12ceb0b74b]

January 28th 2009- Mpell Promotion Begins
February 28th 2009- Mpell Promotion Ends
8 weeks later..
April 29th 2009- Official Notification of delays

If you look at it from that perspective it isn't TOO bad. We're only a week or so into the official notification of delays, so I don't think we needn't fret just yet. I know a lot of us (myself included) check this thread multiple times a day so you know we're constantly exposing ourselves daily to all this stress and panic of this whole situation, so it probably seems worse than it really is.[/quote12ceb0b74b]

it's pretty bad...

oleus

08-05-2009 08:25:18

i'm still not ready to let mpell off the hook either. i think i'm going to file 2 new BBB complaints tonight, one for mpell and my first one for ARG.

i know it probably won't do much, but since neither will reply to emails anymore this will at least make them have to reply to something.

oleus

08-05-2009 08:45:07

update - sounds like audit IS underway.

Thank you for contacting us.

They are currently conducting an audit of all prizes. I have sent an email to management with your name. Hopefully, they can speed up the process for you after the audit. Thanks.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Darren

ohboyitsryan

08-05-2009 08:47:45

the Mpell complaints will get closed within hours, so that's useless unless you find new grounds for a complaint. the ARG complaint, while it doesn't seem to bother them, may raise a red flag with the BBB. at this point, I doubt formal complaints are going to help. legal action is the only thing I can perceive as working, but nobody here is willing to put forth the time and money for that. so we wait and continue to get exploited...

oleus

08-05-2009 08:50:12

well the latest ARG repsonse i just posted came only after i mentioned the words "small claims court" in my email. every other reply i've had has been the "overwhelming repsonse" form-letter.

thought i shoudl post it since this time last week one of their CSR's indicated that the audits had already been done.

ploppsdman

08-05-2009 10:35:12

Anyone contact the California Attorney General about Mpell's role?

ploppsdman

08-05-2009 10:49:44

I'm trying to come up with date in which I'll go the small claims route....

prizejunkie

08-05-2009 11:04:36

filing for small claims court takes 10 minutes and about 20 bucks, no reason to push it off

bruman

08-05-2009 11:15:32

[quotea2b91f950c="ploppsdman"]I'm trying to come up with date in which I'll go the small claims route....[/quotea2b91f950c]\

You edited your post, but I think July if reasonable. If nothing is seen by that time then I'd also consider it. That gives them 8 additional weeks after their delay notice.

Also the small claims court isn't a speedy process either-- could take up to 2-3 months from filing to a resolution, depending on the state.

hawke12

08-05-2009 11:41:06

"Just a little more Time" blah blah blah....WHY??

They've already had many TENS of WEEKS for lots of people.

When is enough, enough?

Take Action people, sittin' and "Talking about" doing it won't get it done, and certainly saying " just a little" longer on an already old case, won't either....

dougp70

08-05-2009 12:18:43

Have you taken any action Hawke?

oleus

08-05-2009 12:20:14

i've never even come close to small claims court - do we file in our home states??

hawke12

08-05-2009 12:35:23

[quotec37369aaf2="dougp70"]Have you taken any action Hawke?[/quotec37369aaf2]

Yup

ploppsdman

08-05-2009 13:40:26

[quote3fb7872021="hawke12"][quote3fb7872021="dougp70"]Have you taken any action Hawke?[/quote3fb7872021]

Yup[/quote3fb7872021]

Can you share the steps involved for others like me who have given up on getting what were owed from brandarama voluntarily.

oleus

08-05-2009 13:43:59

i'm going to spend part of the weekend researching how to file a small claims case against them in Georgia. enough is enough, this is complete BS. they scammed us with those Mpell letters, are forcing those of us who have already passed through TWO verifications (initial confirm-to-ship confirmations, Mpell verifications) to wait through an audit that seems plainly like a stalling effort....unacceptable, they have to be held accountable.

hawke12

08-05-2009 16:04:45

[quoteeef5994c12="ploppsdman"][quoteeef5994c12="hawke12"][quoteeef5994c12="dougp70"]Have you taken any action Hawke?[/quoteeef5994c12]

Yup[/quoteeef5994c12]

Can you share the steps involved for others like me who have given up on getting what were owed from brandarama voluntarily.[/quoteeef5994c12]

I'm lucky enough to have a lawyer that will work on contingency, and they are attaching the legals fees as part of the claims suit.

I'm only owed $700 so it's going to small claims court.

JANGALANG32

08-05-2009 16:05:11

yeah, if someone has gone the small claims route post the steps

kinneylamb

08-05-2009 16:09:22

[quoteb2c59b9a66="oleus"]well the latest ARG repsonse i just posted came only after i mentioned the words "small claims court" in my email. every other reply i've had has been the "overwhelming repsonse" form-letter.

thought i shoudl post it since this time last week one of their CSR's indicated that the audits had already been done.[/quoteb2c59b9a66]
reading between the lines, i took that e-mail response as, they are currently going through it.

[quoteb2c59b9a66="bruman"][quoteb2c59b9a66="ploppsdman"]I'm trying to come up with date in which I'll go the small claims route....[/quoteb2c59b9a66]\

You edited your post, but I think July if reasonable. If nothing is seen by that time then I'd also consider it. That gives them 8 additional weeks after their delay notice.

Also the small claims court isn't a speedy process either-- could take up to 2-3 months from filing to a resolution, depending on the state.[/quoteb2c59b9a66]
2-3 months will seem like cake after waiting this long for their gift ;)

hawke -- if you pay closer attention to the details, we were sent an e-mail about an audit of the certificates. 9 days ago including the weekend. noone's giving them a lot more time, just what's reasonable based on that they're telling us there's an audit going on -- a final step of the process, so they say.

bruman

08-05-2009 16:41:09

[quote32d234162c="kinneylamb"][quote32d234162c="oleus"]well the latest ARG repsonse i just posted came only after i mentioned the words "small claims court" in my email. every other reply i've had has been the "overwhelming repsonse" form-letter.

thought i shoudl post it since this time last week one of their CSR's indicated that the audits had already been done.[/quote32d234162c]
reading between the lines, i took that e-mail response as, they are currently going through it.

[quote32d234162c="bruman"][quote32d234162c="ploppsdman"]I'm trying to come up with date in which I'll go the small claims route....[/quote32d234162c]\

You edited your post, but I think July if reasonable. If nothing is seen by that time then I'd also consider it. That gives them 8 additional weeks after their delay notice.

Also the small claims court isn't a speedy process either-- could take up to 2-3 months from filing to a resolution, depending on the state.[/quote32d234162c]
2-3 months will seem like cake after waiting this long for their gift ;)

hawke -- if you pay closer attention to the details, we were sent an e-mail about an audit of the certificates. 9 days ago including the weekend. noone's giving them a lot more time, just what's reasonable based on that they're telling us there's an audit going on -- a final step of the process, so they say.[/quote32d234162c]

Yea... the reason I said that is because I am expecting payments to go out within 2-3 months through its natural course. Like I said the whole mpell situation did not go as they planned so of course there are more delays. If it gets to July with no payments (which I doubt) then I'll probably join the pessimist crowd ;), but before then I see no reason to get overly worried or get on ARGs bad side by threatening or pursuing legal matters. If ARG were showing signs of closing up shop then I definitely would be concerned that we might never get the money, but they haven't. In fact, the opposite-- they seem to be expanding-- hiring new people, reformating their sites, creating new sites, updating terms, heavy advertising and so forth.

kinneylamb

08-05-2009 20:43:35

yea i agree with you bruman. except they should have done all this stuff, of course, over the last 2 years if not when they first opened. and our patience is running low, so say the least. they are unbelievably neglectful / slow with their own operations. nuitech, you get the feeling they are on top of their stuff. ARG? everyones on vacation.

bruman

09-05-2009 00:37:21

I completely agree, it really is a mess of a company haha. But right now I'm just trying to focus on the situation at hand here. Despite all the shady things that came with the issuing of the mpell letters I see it as also an effort to catch up with the shipping. I'd rather be in the situation I am in now than waiting for ARG to finish up one month of confirmed gifts every 4-5 months (or longer) as was before mpell came into play. And don't forget everything was converted into cash via checks, so that was another plus.

nphami01

10-05-2009 17:07:07

I have no idea how you think we are going to get something from this. How long has it been since someone has actually received something? They just seem to be delaying the inevitable. I really hope you guys are right, but I really have no hope that it is actually going to come. I bet they do this "audit" thing for another month or so and then make up another excuse why the money isn't coming (or start another 8-10 week period that will never be fulfilled).

zr2152

10-05-2009 18:07:46

[quote339ca7824b="nphami01"]I have no idea how you think we are going to get something from this. How long has it been since someone has actually received something? They just seem to be delaying the inevitable. I really hope you guys are right, but I really have no hope that it is actually going to come. I bet they do this "audit" thing for another month or so and then make up another excuse why the money isn't coming (or start another 8-10 week period that will never be fulfilled).[/quote339ca7824b]

Because he knows things...

jmtaylor

10-05-2009 19:27:28

[quote0a343886fe="nphami01"]I have no idea how you think we are going to get something from this. How long has it been since someone has actually received something? They just seem to be delaying the inevitable. I really hope you guys are right, but I really have no hope that it is actually going to come. I bet they do this "audit" thing for another month or so and then make up another excuse why the money isn't coming (or start another 8-10 week period that will never be fulfilled).[/quote0a343886fe]

If you've given up hope then why do you continue to monitor the boards and waste more of your time with this? There's no sense in being so over the top negative about something that we have almost no control over.

nphami01

11-05-2009 00:23:25

Touche!
Back to my hole

manOFice

11-05-2009 09:38:01

I received my check today =P all my sites are shipped

DIY vet wins the race!

Gman14

11-05-2009 09:40:58

manOFice has jokes!P

manOFice

11-05-2009 09:41:21

[quote83f134fae2="Gman14"]manOFice has jokes!P[/quote83f134fae2]

I'm not joking

Gman14

11-05-2009 09:42:07

seriously?

manOFice

11-05-2009 09:44:20

[quote80d63993b1="Gman14"]seriously?[/quote80d63993b1]

yes

PS600REVX

11-05-2009 09:45:46

[quoteee56321252="manOFice"][quoteee56321252="Gman14"]manOFice has jokes!P[/quoteee56321252]

I'm not joking[/quoteee56321252]

Can you give details? Are you MPELL, did you threaten or what? You must have info that we don't have because you were confident early last week about shipments. Mind sharing?

manOFice

11-05-2009 09:47:29

[quote0e2a196887="PS600REVX"][quote0e2a196887="manOFice"][quote0e2a196887="Gman14"]manOFice has jokes!P[/quote0e2a196887]

I'm not joking[/quote0e2a196887]

Can you give details? Are you MPELL, did you threaten or what? You must have info that we don't have because you were confident early last week about shipments. Mind sharing?[/quote0e2a196887]

I got paid the amount i was owned through the receipts i sent in to mpell, My receipts were short of what I was owned and I got that amount so if you went in stuff for mpell brandarama has that information. I never once threaten them

Gman14

11-05-2009 09:50:06

nice, congrats.

do you assume they'll be getting to everyone else now too? My receipt was for the full amount, but it was only $500..

manOFice

11-05-2009 09:51:53

[quotedeabd06cf7="Gman14"]nice, congrats.

do you assume they'll be getting to everyone else now too? My receipt was for the full amount, but it was only $500..[/quotedeabd06cf7]

I would suspect others to be shipped within a couple weeks but can't say for sure

PS600REVX

11-05-2009 09:51:57

[quote56ed3a99fb="manOFice"][quote56ed3a99fb="PS600REVX"][quote56ed3a99fb="manOFice"][quote56ed3a99fb="Gman14"]manOFice has jokes!P[/quote56ed3a99fb]

I'm not joking[/quote56ed3a99fb]

Can you give details? Are you MPELL, did you threaten or what? You must have info that we don't have because you were confident early last week about shipments. Mind sharing?[/quote56ed3a99fb]

I got paid the amount i was owned through the receipts i sent in to mpell, My receipts were short of what I was owned and I got that amount so if you went in stuff for mpell brandarama has that information. I never once threaten them[/quote56ed3a99fb]

That's it?? So just a normal shipment to a person who took part in the MPELL process with no extreme circumstances!! I'm miffed!! So I guess more people should be showing shipped as the week goes on. ManofIce, I don't know you from a hole in the wall but you are saying that you had no inside track to the gifts or made some sort of deal with them?? Not accusing or assuming anything but just want the whole story.

oleus

11-05-2009 09:59:51

i'm wondering why ARG is still saying they don't know when the mpell-certificate people's money will ship because of the new audit, if they are actually sending people their money already? count me in as confused.

PS600REVX

11-05-2009 10:14:37

[quote7a8926b3e9="oleus"]i'm wondering why ARG is still saying they don't know when the mpell-certificate people's money will ship because of the new audit, if they are actually sending people their money already? count me in as confused.[/quote7a8926b3e9]

I believe there is somthing else to his story and I hope he shares it.

ohboyitsryan

11-05-2009 10:26:54

let's see some pics...unless you are among the many that 'deposit checks so fast without thinking about taking a pic'

not calling you out man, but there's a whole paranoid community here that will collectively be at ease with a pic...and you've joked about payments before when the mpell thing first started...

ploppsdman

11-05-2009 10:31:45

[quotecf26e3d6cf="manOFice"][quotecf26e3d6cf="PS600REVX"][quotecf26e3d6cf="manOFice"][quotecf26e3d6cf="Gman14"]manOFice has jokes!P[/quotecf26e3d6cf]

I'm not joking[/quotecf26e3d6cf]

Can you give details? Are you MPELL, did you threaten or what? You must have info that we don't have because you were confident early last week about shipments. Mind sharing?[/quotecf26e3d6cf]

I got paid the amount i was owned through the receipts i sent in to mpell, My receipts were short of what I was owned and I got that amount so if you went in stuff for mpell brandarama has that information. I never once threaten them[/quotecf26e3d6cf]

And it says shipped on your accounts?

manOFice

11-05-2009 10:35:12

[quoteb35906bc7f="ohboyitsryan"]let's see some pics...unless you are among the many that 'deposit checks so fast without thinking about taking a pic'

not calling you out man, but there's a whole paranoid community here that will collectively be at ease with a pic...and you've joked about payments before when the mpell thing first started...[/quoteb35906bc7f]

I have no reason to joke. I'm at work now but my wife is the one who told me it arrived. It's pretty easy to tell when i'm just joking too

And yes, all my accounts show shipped

ohboyitsryan

11-05-2009 10:37:00

[quote54c3b059e6="manOFice"][quote54c3b059e6="ohboyitsryan"]let's see some pics...unless you are among the many that 'deposit checks so fast without thinking about taking a pic'

not calling you out man, but there's a whole paranoid community here that will collectively be at ease with a pic...and you've joked about payments before when the mpell thing first started...[/quote54c3b059e6]

I have no reason to joke. I'm at work now but my wife is the one who told me it arrived. It's pretty easy to tell when i'm just joking too

And yes, all my accounts show shipped[/quote54c3b059e6]

alright bro...congrats. when were your certs approved by mpell and how much were you owed?

manOFice

11-05-2009 10:40:28

[quote9ca87521e0="ohboyitsryan"][quote9ca87521e0="manOFice"][quote9ca87521e0="ohboyitsryan"]let's see some pics...unless you are among the many that 'deposit checks so fast without thinking about taking a pic'

not calling you out man, but there's a whole paranoid community here that will collectively be at ease with a pic...and you've joked about payments before when the mpell thing first started...[/quote9ca87521e0]

I have no reason to joke. I'm at work now but my wife is the one who told me it arrived. It's pretty easy to tell when i'm just joking too

And yes, all my accounts show shipped[/quote9ca87521e0]

alright bro...congrats. when were your certs approved by mpell and how much were you owed?[/quote9ca87521e0]

I sent in my certs basically a few days after getting them, and I was owned less than 2k

ploppsdman

11-05-2009 10:43:07

My bill collectors are jealous ....

mookieb2

11-05-2009 10:52:17

Awesome manofice.


Guys he's been here forever and relaible in the past, so if he says it came, I believe him.

Not that you know me, so really, my endorsement is nothing, but for what its worth, I think he got his check and thats fantastic!

ploppsdman

11-05-2009 10:55:07

I'm still not throwing out the chance of small claims court, though. Hopefully the details about how about going through that process will be posted so Im prepared.

PS600REVX

11-05-2009 11:23:40

[quotef20026ef93="mookieb2"]Awesome manofice.


Guys he's been here forever and relaible in the past, so if he says it came, I believe him.

Not that you know me, so really, my endorsement is nothing, but for what its worth, I think he got his check and thats fantastic![/quotef20026ef93]

I wasn't doubting him in any way. I just want to know if there is a detail he is leaving out explaining why he was shipped before the other 100000000 people who are waiting.

cronerd

11-05-2009 11:33:35

or maybe ARG is reading the boards and figures that if they paid out to a vet everyone else would start believin............

ohboyitsryan

11-05-2009 11:36:27

looks like manofice is a lone ranger in the shipped department, very odd but again the people who post here are but a mere fraction of ARGs full victim list

Eeyore

11-05-2009 11:50:37

[quote01f41818f9="manOFice"]And yes, all my accounts show shipped[/quote01f41818f9]
What date does the site(s) show your "gift" as being updated to "shipped"? Just curious...

manOFice

11-05-2009 12:05:12

[quotea52c60aaea="Eeyore"][quotea52c60aaea="manOFice"]And yes, all my accounts show shipped[/quotea52c60aaea]
What date does the site(s) show your "gift" as being updated to "shipped"? Just curious...[/quotea52c60aaea]

friday

Eeyore

11-05-2009 12:20:53

Thank you.

benedict

11-05-2009 12:27:07

mine still show up as confirmed to be shipped.

box86rowh

11-05-2009 13:16:28

[quoteb10c5088eb="manOFice"][quoteb10c5088eb="Eeyore"][quoteb10c5088eb="manOFice"]And yes, all my accounts show shipped[/quoteb10c5088eb]
What date does the site(s) show your "gift" as being updated to "shipped"? Just curious...[/quoteb10c5088eb]

friday[/quoteb10c5088eb]
Thanks for sharing....and congrats!

wiebelhaus03

11-05-2009 14:34:46

congrats! show us some pics when you get home!

potsey2007

11-05-2009 15:02:33

was it certified mail or regular mail?

krazikorean

11-05-2009 15:05:09

i can't wait!! keeping my hopes up now!

bruman

11-05-2009 15:41:58

Congrats manOFice! Hopefully we see some more shipments soon.

Crys2101

11-05-2009 15:53:03

Congrats ManoFice! There's hope P

manOFice

11-05-2009 16:29:29

It was certified

[img37df7b991e]http/" alt=""/img10.imageshack.us/img="10/13" alt=""/img00003w.th.jpg[/img37df7b991e][=http//img="10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00003w.jpg][img37df7b991e]http/" alt=""/img10.imageshack.us/img="10/13" alt=""/img00003w.th.jpg[/img37df7b991e]

ashilef

11-05-2009 16:37:29

Boo, I'm jealous...LOL!

Stkfree1

11-05-2009 16:50:38

Awesome. Can't wait.

oleus

11-05-2009 16:58:05

i am having a hard time getting my hopes up!

you'd think if they were really getting the ball rolling, at least a couple more people around here would see their pages go "shipped" tonight or tomorrow (or would it be the end of the week?)

oleus

kinneylamb

11-05-2009 18:08:03

keep in mind manofice sent in his mpell certs only a few days after receiving them. it's one reason to think why he got his first, and more may be coming. about 7000 checks to write, according to ARG. so lets see how long it takes for others to get the rest of the checks..

& congrats manofice!

michae229

11-05-2009 18:48:46

[quote050ad53a4e="manOFice"]It was certified

[img050ad53a4e]http/" alt=""/img10.imageshack.us/img="10/13" alt=""/img00003w.th.jpg[/img050ad53a4e][=http//img="10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00003w.jpg][img050ad53a4e]http/" alt=""/img10.imageshack.us/img="10/13" alt=""/img00003w.th.jpg[/img050ad53a4e][/quote050ad53a4e]

so you got all the sites on one check and they sent it to the address that you put on the mpell forms?

tp24

11-05-2009 19:03:59

manofice, did you get the audit notification e-mail from the cashbackcustomercare.com address?

beerman

11-05-2009 19:16:06

cool, congrat manoface, they got my forms 3 days after it was delivered to me, so hopefully my check is coming soon.

manOFice

11-05-2009 19:16:11

michae229 seeing that the address I had on all my brandarama sites and the mpell forms are the same... yes ;)

Tp24 I never got audited, but I did receive emails saying there were delays

RyanG

11-05-2009 20:29:42

Awesome, grats mof

slambam

11-05-2009 21:33:36

Sweetness, congrats.

terryishere

11-05-2009 21:47:44

congrats ..that is awesome!! hopefully mine will come soon..boy that was a long 8 -10 weeks//just kidding..thats awesome im so happy to see something finally moving.go do something nice wiht your check ..hugs terry

livingloud28

11-05-2009 21:47:53

I am only owed $500 for my first round I am waiting for my other cashback certificates I hope this means more shipments going out tomorrow before I leave for the summer !

ohboyitsryan

12-05-2009 10:28:25

this still baffles me how only one person across like 4 forums got fulfilled...my mpell certs were approved 1/29 and I bet there are only a handful of people who got theirs approved before that, so they might be fulfilling by original CTS date...this is such a mess

PS600REVX

12-05-2009 10:31:04

[quote254a7ac162="ohboyitsryan"]this still baffles me how only one person across like 4 forums got fulfilled...my mpell certs were approved 1/29 and I bet there are only a handful of people who got theirs approved before that, so they might be fulfilling by original CTS date...this is such a mess[/quote254a7ac162]

I'm pretty convinced that there is more to his story. He was the one who was extremely confident that ARG would start shipping last week. Why would that be?

ohboyitsryan

12-05-2009 10:42:28

yeah something is not adding up here

cronerd

12-05-2009 10:46:42

like I said, ARG is reading these boards... bow

slambam

12-05-2009 10:55:57

In that case....

I LOVE ARG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARG IS PROBABLY THE BEST COMPANY EVER!!!!!!!

THESE MPELL FORMS WERE A GREAT IDEA!!!!!

SO WHAT THERE A LITTLE SLOW? THEY'LL PAY BEFORE WE KNOW IT!!!!

mistertomlinson

12-05-2009 11:04:43

[quoteaa54702d82="slambam"]In that case....

I LOVE ARG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARG IS PROBABLY THE BEST COMPANY EVER!!!!!!!

THESE MPELL FORMS WERE A GREAT IDEA!!!!!

SO WHAT THERE A LITTLE SLOW? THEY'LL PAY BEFORE WE KNOW IT!!!![/quoteaa54702d82]

x motherfuckin' 2

Eeyore

12-05-2009 11:05:54

You guys are a riot. Bitching when nothing happens and then bitching when something good does happen. rofl

Armstrong

12-05-2009 11:44:53

done well you did 'Man'

cronerd

12-05-2009 11:49:29

all hail ARG shock

oleus

12-05-2009 12:05:16

I don't think the skeptics are bitchin. Just seems weird. One person who seemed to know they were going to start shipping got theirs. Arg telling everyone else an audit of everything is underway . Seems fishy like they paid one active forum vet their money to create an illusion , just like hiring mpell was an illusion.

Armstrong

12-05-2009 12:21:43

[quotea9ece56fd9="oleus"]I don't think the skeptics are bitchin. Just seems weird. One person who seemed to know they were going to start shipping got theirs. Arg telling everyone else an audit of everything is underway . Seems fishy like they paid one active forum vet their money to create an illusion , just like hiring mpell was an illusion.[/quotea9ece56fd9]

That's some David Blaine shit you got goin!

mistertomlinson

12-05-2009 12:30:38

[quote1516649e30="Armstrong"]done well you did 'Man'[/quote1516649e30]

Hur?

kinneylamb

12-05-2009 12:45:48

[quote51892214af="oleus"]I don't think the skeptics are bitchin. Just seems weird. One person who seemed to know they were going to start shipping got theirs. Arg telling everyone else an audit of everything is underway . Seems fishy like they paid one active forum vet their money to create an illusion , just like hiring mpell was an illusion.[/quote51892214af]
manofice has seen it all, so when he read my e-mail from customer service, he could tell a good moment from a bad one. he even got his hopes up for last week, then got disappointed that nothing came. he knew nothing of his personal account. jc let it go.

kinneylamb

12-05-2009 12:48:05

[quote0bfd099ad3="PS600REVX"][quote0bfd099ad3="ohboyitsryan"]this still baffles me how only one person across like 4 forums got fulfilled...my mpell certs were approved 1/29 and I bet there are only a handful of people who got theirs approved before that, so they might be fulfilling by original CTS date...this is such a mess[/quote0bfd099ad3]

I'm pretty convinced that there is more to his story. He was the one who was extremely confident that ARG would start shipping last week. Why would that be?[/quote0bfd099ad3]
because you missed the e-mail customer service sent me two weeks ago.

mariners1999

12-05-2009 12:52:09

[quoteceb04e9f37="kinneylamb"][quoteceb04e9f37="PS600REVX"][quoteceb04e9f37="ohboyitsryan"]this still baffles me how only one person across like 4 forums got fulfilled...my mpell certs were approved 1/29 and I bet there are only a handful of people who got theirs approved before that, so they might be fulfilling by original CTS date...this is such a mess[/quoteceb04e9f37]

I'm pretty convinced that there is more to his story. He was the one who was extremely confident that ARG would start shipping last week. Why would that be?[/quoteceb04e9f37]
because you missed the e-mail customer service sent me two weeks ago.[/quoteceb04e9f37]

I was one of the first to mock your email.... I am very glad to be eating crow today!!! This is just the start and I think we will see more ship in the next week. D

PS600REVX

12-05-2009 13:01:48

[quote2cfa76a44c="kinneylamb"][quote2cfa76a44c="PS600REVX"][quote2cfa76a44c="ohboyitsryan"]this still baffles me how only one person across like 4 forums got fulfilled...my mpell certs were approved 1/29 and I bet there are only a handful of people who got theirs approved before that, so they might be fulfilling by original CTS date...this is such a mess[/quote2cfa76a44c]

I'm pretty convinced that there is more to his story. He was the one who was extremely confident that ARG would start shipping last week. Why would that be?[/quote2cfa76a44c]
because you missed the e-mail customer service sent me two weeks ago.[/quote2cfa76a44c]

No, I probably read it as I look constantly at this board to get any updates but ARG putting anything down in writing is hard to believe no matter what. And I hope I am wrong and there is no more to his story other than ARG actually starting to ship. Let's hope it is true I could always use $8000+!!

oleus

12-05-2009 13:46:06

No one is questioning manofice, we're questioning whether the delivery of his check actually means anything to the rest of us .

ashilef

12-05-2009 14:00:39

[quote8ddc95955d="oleus"]No one is questioning manofice, we're questioning whether the delivery of his check actually means anything to the rest of us .[/quote8ddc95955d]

You pretty much nailed it right there. I don't want to get my hopes up, and be let down that it was only a fluke.

ploppsdman

12-05-2009 14:10:54

[quote784a72b3b3="oleus"]No one is questioning manofice, we're questioning whether the delivery of his check actually means anything to the rest of us .[/quote784a72b3b3]

And bingo was his name-o. No one is unhappy man got his check, we are unhappy we did not get ours. In this game, we are all out for number 1, but unless we go the lawsuit route, we're as high up in the air as you can be with this and it sucks. Particularly since we thought we were finished with all of this "did your page status change" and "what are your initials" crap. I think its time for a week long break from this ....

cronerd

12-05-2009 14:42:44

hmmm manofice started this entire thread, I wonder if that has anything to do with their decision.......and the mystery continues........I LOVE YOU ARG OVERLORDS!!

oleus

12-05-2009 14:44:38

[quotea454495618="cronerd"]hmmm manofice started this entire thread, I wonder if that has anything to do with their decision.......and the mystery continues........I LOVE YOU ARG OVERLORDS!![/quotea454495618]

it's definitely mysterious.

manofice, you really don't have a clue why you got yours first?

RolltheStampede

12-05-2009 15:23:34

he started it, and I said to make it official so that means I will be getting paid next P


"Checks will now be mailed out by post order of the official brandarama thread on FIPG"

orangejuice

12-05-2009 15:41:00

Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped

cronerd

12-05-2009 15:42:19

[quote675b40472a="RolltheStampede"]he started it, and I said to make it official so that means I will be getting paid next P


"Checks will now be mailed out by post order of the official brandarama thread on FIPG"[/quote675b40472a]
haha it would be scary if yours comes in the mail next

oleus

12-05-2009 15:42:32

[quoted2dae4018e="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quoted2dae4018e]

if a second person somewhere goes shipped this week I will start to give that creedence.

bruman

12-05-2009 17:08:39

[quote1338092101="oleus"][quote1338092101="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quote1338092101]

if a second person somewhere goes shipped this week I will start to give that creedence.[/quote1338092101]

Well manofice said he never filed any complaints or threatened them in anyway, so idk how you would put those together. He also said he went shipped on a Friday so who knows if that day of the week correlates to signs of things to come. BTW, Anyone e-mail support this week to see if they are saying anything different?

kinneylamb

12-05-2009 19:56:15

how would they know who manofice even is? unless his e-mail address is the same exact thing?

orangejuice

12-05-2009 21:15:19

Oh im sure some people here have told ARG everything. in fact thats probably what started this whole mess. the people jealous of us guys that had over $20k pending. To the guys that complained, dont worry, it doesn't bother me in the least, but it would have been nice to have it )

Eeyore

12-05-2009 21:39:08

There are Martians in the Nevada desert too...

heather77

13-05-2009 00:01:47

Congratulations, manofice!! I'm so happy for you!!

mistertomlinson

13-05-2009 05:17:04

[quoteb2e3d3f282="bruman"][quoteb2e3d3f282="oleus"][quoteb2e3d3f282="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quoteb2e3d3f282]

if a second person somewhere goes shipped this week I will start to give that creedence.[/quoteb2e3d3f282]

Well manofice said he never filed any complaints or threatened them in anyway, so idk how you would put those together. He also said he went shipped on a Friday so who knows if that day of the week correlates to signs of things to come. BTW, Anyone e-mail support this week to see if they are saying anything different?[/quoteb2e3d3f282]

I just emailed them this week about my disappearing account status' and after they were restored, for some reason I was asked if I participated in MPell's redemption program (as if I had a choice). When I replied "yes," they replied with that generic email response pertaining to delays... yada yada... "

fanofpurple

13-05-2009 05:44:54

[quote0e96e8272f="mistertomlinson"][quote0e96e8272f="bruman"][quote0e96e8272f="oleus"][quote0e96e8272f="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quote0e96e8272f]

if a second person somewhere goes shipped this week I will start to give that creedence.[/quote0e96e8272f]

Well manofice said he never filed any complaints or threatened them in anyway, so idk how you would put those together. He also said he went shipped on a Friday so who knows if that day of the week correlates to signs of things to come. BTW, Anyone e-mail support this week to see if they are saying anything different?[/quote0e96e8272f]

I just emailed them this week about my disappearing account status' and after they were restored, for some reason I was asked if I participated in MPell's redemption program (as if I had a choice). When I replied "yes," they replied with that generic email response pertaining to delays... yada yada... "[/quote0e96e8272f]

Yeah, that is strange. They told us MPell was our ONLY choice to get what we were owed. I know my status keeps disappearing too - it has been back for a few days now - but no changes. (

manOFice

13-05-2009 06:21:37

[quotef546b05483="kinneylamb"]how would they know who manofice even is? unless his e-mail address is the same exact thing?[/quotef546b05483]

They seriously have no idea who I was/am. But i posted my check so i'm sure they know who I am now. Not that it matters because I never scammed them so I have no reason to hide who I am.

ohboyitsryan

13-05-2009 17:36:14

how much was your check worth and why did you block that out

manOFice

13-05-2009 18:31:42

[quote37b5425c37="ohboyitsryan"]how much was your check worth and why did you block that out[/quote37b5425c37]

what does it matter?

ashilef

13-05-2009 18:57:14

[quote54e6206079="manOFice"][quote54e6206079="kinneylamb"]how would they know who manofice even is? unless his e-mail address is the same exact thing?[/quote54e6206079]

They seriously have no idea who I was/am. But i posted my check so i'm sure they know who I am now. Not that it matters because I never scammed them so I have no reason to hide who I am.[/quote54e6206079]

Most of us never scammed them either, but yet we are still sitting here without our checks, lol

I think I'm sensing a bit of jealousy from some of the members here..which is understandable. I mean out of all the people on the board only ONE gets a check? But we also have to remember there are lots of other people who probably participated in the mpell thing and don't even know that this board exists. So (hopefully) others got paid along with Manofice )

beerman

13-05-2009 19:35:42

[quotec0527fd98c="manOFice"][quotec0527fd98c="ohboyitsryan"]how much was your check worth and why did you block that out[/quotec0527fd98c]

what does it matter?[/quotec0527fd98c]

Should be too hard to find out, he posts a lot....
$500 lowes
$500 best buy (not in check)
$2500 sholorship
16 Gb ipod
$500 amex
$1000 amex
$500 visa
$825 nordstorms
$500 sears

I'm sure I missed a lot more,
So needless to say it was a big check

ohboyitsryan

13-05-2009 20:18:12

[quote8a5378cf70="manOFice"][quote8a5378cf70="ohboyitsryan"]how much was your check worth and why did you block that out[/quote8a5378cf70]

what does it matter?[/quote8a5378cf70]

cuz I'm thinking they may have slid you a non mpell check, which would make the most sense. maybe you got on an expedited list or something that we don't know about. like was said before, not that we don't believe you, it just the situation which is trippin people out.

if your check was for like $500 or $1000, I wouldn't even attribute that to Mpell obviously.

zr2152

13-05-2009 22:39:16

Mpell has nothing to do with this anymore (as stated by other members previously).

Who cares how much he got. At least he was nice enough to post saying that he got something. In previous conversations with manofice, I am now understanding why he was a little hesitant to post this.

Take his proof of receiving a check a blessing because he did not have to share it with everyone.

Oh, and maybe if everyone on here didn't email ARG threatening with lawsuits, others may have gotten their checks as well.

orangejuice

13-05-2009 22:58:50

I doubt emailing threating notes had anything to do with it. The people who repeated offers got screwed no matter what. there are still some things in the works tho. we aren't just going to let them say F U and move on..

manOFice

14-05-2009 05:31:18

[quote9de0de43a3="beerman"][quote9de0de43a3="manOFice"][quote9de0de43a3="ohboyitsryan"]how much was your check worth and why did you block that out[/quote9de0de43a3]

what does it matter?[/quote9de0de43a3]

Should be too hard to find out, he posts a lot....
$500 lowes
$500 best buy (not in check)
$2500 sholorship
16 Gb iPod
$500 amex
$1000 amex
$500 visa
$825 nordstorms
$500 sears

I'm sure I missed a lot more,
So needless to say it was a big check[/quote9de0de43a3]

Some of those you posted I never did and most of those I received a long time ago, my check wasn't that big. But like I said, I received the mpell receipts amount, not the amount I was owed

ghounds07

14-05-2009 06:57:17

Why did you short yourself money?

ashilef

14-05-2009 07:22:44

[quote6cc781810c="zr2152"]Mpell has nothing to do with this anymore (as stated by other members previously).

Who cares how much he got. At least he was nice enough to post saying that he got something. In previous conversations with manofice, I am now understanding why he was a little hesitant to post this.

Take his proof of receiving a check a blessing because he did not have to share it with everyone.

Oh, and maybe if everyone on here didn't email ARG threatening with lawsuits, others may have gotten their checks as well.[/quote6cc781810c]

I never threaten lawsuit, $hit I hardly ever email them...AND I still don't have my check. So there goes THAT theory...

RolltheStampede

14-05-2009 07:23:28

because mpell never made it clear if they would refund tax or not?

ghounds07

14-05-2009 07:41:54

[quote086ca2dfee="RolltheStampede"]because mpell never made it clear if they would refund tax or not?[/quote086ca2dfee]

but why give them the option? X

ohboyitsryan

14-05-2009 08:32:31

well I'm glad manofice is at least saying 'owed' and not 'owned' anymore.

manOFice

14-05-2009 08:48:40

[quote57fec2f5b9="ohboyitsryan"]well I'm glad manofice is at least saying 'owed' and not 'owned' anymore.[/quote57fec2f5b9]

roll roll

ohboyitsryan

14-05-2009 08:59:40

just messing with you...

skinnyhoops

14-05-2009 10:10:28

Hello, first time checking this topic in a month or so. This whole Brandarama / Mpell thing is getting annoying and expensive. I got the same emails you all got about delays and about no longer contacting Mpell.

Congrats ManOfIce on receiving your gift! Seeing positive things is what I wanted to see when I checked this topic today. I'm looking forward to getting my cash-back this year so this thing can be over with. I might even smoke a cigar on that day too...Yeah, it's that big. LOL

janarae

14-05-2009 10:10:35

[quotefbc99cc55b="manOFice"][quotefbc99cc55b="beerman"][quotefbc99cc55b="manOFice"][quotefbc99cc55b="ohboyitsryan"]how much was your check worth and why did you block that out[/quotefbc99cc55b]

what does it matter?[/quotefbc99cc55b]

Should be too hard to find out, he posts a lot....
$500 lowes
$500 best buy (not in check)
$2500 sholorship
16 Gb iPod
$500 amex
$1000 amex
$500 visa
$825 nordstorms
$500 sears

I'm sure I missed a lot more,
So needless to say it was a big check[/quotefbc99cc55b]

Some of those you posted I never did and most of those I received a long time ago, my check wasn't that big. But like I said, I received the mpell receipts amount, not the amount I was owed[/quotefbc99cc55b]

Glad you got your $$$. Good for you!

kinneylamb

14-05-2009 13:59:20

i dont wanna admit it but, in addition to having thousands of checks to mail out, brandarama might take a while because thats what they like to do. i was thinking the same thing as manofice, that the rest of us could expect our checks in the coming weeks or longer, even tho a good company could send the checks sooner than that.

Crys2101

14-05-2009 16:20:42

I think they've taken long enough. They've got 6999 checks to mail. That's 6999 customers/products (whatever you like to call) that they've lost. If they want to retain any business from us, they would start cutting checks quickly and throwing in a little extra for long wait and frustration.

fanofpurple

14-05-2009 16:40:15

Did the check clear your bank, ManOfIce? After this long of a wait, I just hope they're not sending rubber checks!!! (My friend had one of their ARG checks bounce a while ago)

manOFice

14-05-2009 16:56:05

[quote4044e449d5="fanofpurple"]Did the check clear your bank, ManOfIce? After this long of a wait, I just hope they're not sending rubber checks!!! (My friend had one of their ARG checks bounce a while ago)[/quote4044e449d5]

yeah it cleared

kinneylamb

14-05-2009 17:00:47

[quote45aa9ca556="fanofpurple"]Did the check clear your bank, ManOfIce? After this long of a wait, I just hope they're not sending rubber checks!!! (My friend had one of their ARG checks bounce a while ago)[/quote45aa9ca556]
your friend huh

beerman

14-05-2009 17:58:27

[quotec928e84198="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quotec928e84198]

or his lawsuit filed in small claims court on April 28th might have had something to do with it too....

mistertomlinson

14-05-2009 18:04:38

[quotefd5df32a6e="beerman"][quotefd5df32a6e="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quotefd5df32a6e]

or his lawsuit filed in small claims court on April 28th might have had something to do with it too....[/quotefd5df32a6e]

No fuckin' way... seriously?!

[quotefd5df32a6e="Crys2102"]I think they've taken long enough. They've got 6999 checks to mail. That's 6999 customers/products (whatever you like to call) that they've lost. If they want to retain any business from us, they would start cutting checks quickly and throwing in a little extra for long wait and frustration.[/quotefd5df32a6e]

Lol @ the -1.

RyanG

14-05-2009 19:16:59

[quote146247aadc="beerman"][quote146247aadc="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quote146247aadc]

or his lawsuit filed in small claims court on April 28th might have had something to do with it too....[/quote146247aadc]

lol

bruman

14-05-2009 19:21:06

[quote29cd47262b="Crys2101"]I think they've taken long enough. They've got 6999 checks to mail. That's 6999 customers/products (whatever you like to call) that they've lost. If they want to retain any business from us, they would start cutting checks quickly and throwing in a little extra for long wait and frustration.[/quote29cd47262b]

7000 certificates, not 7000 checks. Most people sent in multiple certificates, I sent in over 10.

[quote29cd47262b="beerman"][quote29cd47262b="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quote29cd47262b]

or his lawsuit filed in small claims court on April 28th might have had something to do with it too....[/quote29cd47262b]

Who are you guys talking about? I'm pretty sure manofice never filed any lawsuit. And where'd you get that date from?

beerman

14-05-2009 19:36:12

[quoteab1a85270d="beerman"][quoteab1a85270d="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quoteab1a85270d]

or his lawsuit filed in small claims court on April 28th might have had something to do with it too....[/quoteab1a85270d]

Who are you guys talking about? I'm pretty sure manofice never filed any lawsuit. And where'd you get that date from?

I'm pretty sure he has

beerman

14-05-2009 19:36:53

[quotea06328e76c="bruman"][quotea06328e76c="beerman"][quotea06328e76c="beerman"][quotea06328e76c="orangejuice"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quotea06328e76c]

or his lawsuit filed in small claims court on April 28th might have had something to do with it too....[/quotea06328e76c]

Who are you guys talking about? I'm pretty sure manofice never filed any lawsuit. And where'd you get that date from?[/quotea06328e76c]
[/quotea06328e76c]

I'm pretty sure he has

bruman

14-05-2009 19:36:58

[quotebd74379b30="beerman"][quotebd74379b30="beerman"][quotebd74379b30="orangejuice"][quotebd74379b30="beerman"]Maybe all the complaints to the AG helped[/quotebd74379b30]

or his lawsuit filed in small claims court on April 28th might have had something to do with it too....[/quotebd74379b30]

Who are you guys talking about? I'm pretty sure manofice never filed any lawsuit. And where'd you get that date from?[/quotebd74379b30]

I'm pretty sure he has[/quotebd74379b30]

Why do you say that? I talked to him about it even before he posted receiving it and I'm sure he would have mentioned it if that was the case. And again, where'd you get the date April 28th from? Seems like you're just trying to start rumors.

fanofpurple

14-05-2009 19:54:00

[quote885b6057a3="kinneylamb"][quote885b6057a3="fanofpurple"]Did the check clear your bank, ManOfIce? After this long of a wait, I just hope they're not sending rubber checks!!! (My friend had one of their ARG checks bounce a while ago)[/quote885b6057a3]
your friend huh[/quote885b6057a3]

Well, she's my neighbor, and we are friends - so, yeah - my friend!!

kinneylamb

14-05-2009 21:49:30

yea...no

freeipodplayer

14-05-2009 23:21:02

[quote4f7287aa4c="Eeyore"]Did they collect?[/quote4f7287aa4c]

Yes, BR paid before it even went to court as long as they didn't post any further about it. Posts are in THIS forum.

manOFice

15-05-2009 05:12:19

I never filed anything. I think that post was pointing at the fact that someone had a check bounce then the user said maybe it had something to do with the lawsuit they filed

beerman

15-05-2009 09:22:35

Well you must have done something in NYC on april 27-28 that helped you get you check faster than everyone else

manOFice

15-05-2009 09:50:34

[quote5621967bd9="beerman"]Well you must have done something in NYC on april 27-28 that helped you get you check faster than everyone else[/quote5621967bd9]

no, i live no where near nyc

bruman

15-05-2009 10:38:24

[quote973b3d4de9="freeipodplayer"][quote973b3d4de9="Eeyore"]Did they collect?[/quote973b3d4de9]

Yes, BR paid before it even went to court as long as they didn't post any further about it. Posts are in THIS forum.[/quote973b3d4de9]

Are you talking about the 4-offer 20" iMac back in early 2006? I remember that. I completed that site.. they sent me a $250 check for it.

beerman

15-05-2009 10:43:45

[quotedc53ebed2e="manOFice"][quotedc53ebed2e="beerman"]Well you must have done something in NYC on april 27-28 that helped you get you check faster than everyone else[/quotedc53ebed2e]

no, i live no where near nyc[/quotedc53ebed2e]

I didn't say you live close, but you did go there

FreeOffersNow

15-05-2009 10:52:47

[quote34fc8b1dcf="beerman"][quote34fc8b1dcf="manOFice"][quote34fc8b1dcf="beerman"]Well you must have done something in NYC on april 27-28 that helped you get you check faster than everyone else[/quote34fc8b1dcf]

no, i live no where near nyc[/quote34fc8b1dcf]

I didn't say you live close, but you did go there[/quote34fc8b1dcf]

Is anyone else getting annoyed with beerman's vagueness? Just say what you've gotta say and be done with it.

manOFice

15-05-2009 11:07:18

[quoteade311f140="beerman"][quoteade311f140="manOFice"][quoteade311f140="beerman"]Well you must have done something in NYC on april 27-28 that helped you get you check faster than everyone else[/quoteade311f140]

no, i live no where near nyc[/quoteade311f140]

I didn't say you live close, but you did go there[/quoteade311f140]

wtf is your problem? 1. I've never even been to NYC. 2. show me this proof of yours. 3. why would I lie?

beerman

15-05-2009 11:07:25

Sorry on iPhone, so short answers are easier. Just saying that most people should not get their hopes up because manofice posted a check. He went to NYC at the end of april for some reason, my assumption is he filed a small claims suit and settled out of court. So this check is not the begining of a massive check mailing. I'm not sure why he is not giving the full details of how, probably singed something with arg saying he would keep quiet. That's all I want to make clear.

bruman

15-05-2009 11:08:30

Support is still alive P Received a response in less than 30 minutes..
Asked for an update and they said...

[quoteaeecca57e3]Thank you for contacting us.

They are mailing out checks each week. They have not given us a list of the checks that are mailed. Once your check is mailed it will show on your status page that it was sent.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support[/quoteaeecca57e3]

manOFice

15-05-2009 11:10:09

[quote26dbea75c3="beerman"]Sorry on iPhone, so short answers are easier. Just saying that most people should not get their hopes up because manofice posted a check. He went to NYC at the end of april for some reason, my assumption is he filed a small claims suit and settled out of court. So this check is not the begining of a massive check mailing. I'm not sure why he is not giving the full details of how, probably singed something with arg saying he would keep quiet. That's all I want to make clear.[/quote26dbea75c3]

LOL, let me make something clear to you. I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO NYC, NEVER THREATEN LAW SUITE TO THEM, NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I FILED A SMALL CLAIMS COURT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW. Now stfu

beerman

15-05-2009 11:13:07

I have no problem with you man, you have always been a valuable member of all forums, just trying to give facts instead of false hopes.

Keep the pressure on ARG everyone.

bruman

15-05-2009 11:20:16

[quotedb9be05a48="beerman"]I have no problem with you man, you have always been a valuable member of all forums, just trying to give facts instead of false hopes.

Keep the pressure on ARG everyone.[/quotedb9be05a48]

lol, you say you're giving facts but you give absolutely zero proof to what you're saying. You won't even tell us where you got the date April 27-28 from or how you supposedly know that manofice traveled to NY.

beerman

15-05-2009 11:32:57

checkout twitter sometime

manOFice

15-05-2009 11:37:29

[quotee91f17597e="beerman"]checkout twitter sometime[/quotee91f17597e]

Are you referring to my twitter blog when I went to UPSTATE ny, not NYC... and the whole entire blog is me just getting wasted? Good digging but if you really read my twitter you would highly notice I wasn't there to file a suite, lol... i was there getting drunk 24/7

box86rowh

15-05-2009 11:43:44

[quote89ea02b30b="beerman"]I have no problem with you man, you have always been a valuable member of all forums, just trying to give facts instead of false hopes.

Keep the pressure on ARG everyone.[/quote89ea02b30b]
I hate to be the one say this, but you have ZERO credibility compared to manofice...so either show proof or back off........

Gigante

15-05-2009 11:50:19

[quote6c17303ff7="beerman"]Sorry on iPhone, so short answers are easier. Just saying that most people should not get their hopes up because manofice posted a check. He went to NYC at the end of april for some reason, my assumption is he filed a small claims suit and settled out of court. So this check is not the begining of a massive check mailing. I'm not sure why he is not giving the full details of how, probably singed something with arg saying he would keep quiet. That's all I want to make clear.[/quote6c17303ff7]

Thanks for your theories...

ghounds07

15-05-2009 12:21:08

[quote9b3d079b70="box86rowh"][quote9b3d079b70="beerman"]I have no problem with you man, you have always been a valuable member of all forums, just trying to give facts instead of false hopes.

Keep the pressure on ARG everyone.[/quote9b3d079b70]
I hate to be the one say this, but you have ZERO credibility compared to manofice...so either show proof or back off........[/quote9b3d079b70]

nah I'd say beerman is pretty credible, maybe he hasn't been here as long as manofice, but at least he did some research on this check fiasco.

Though I do believe manofice about not filing with the AG, just wish I could talk to the right people on ARG's side.

hum1m9e8r8b

15-05-2009 12:38:21

[quote3aa99c4fbd="manOFice"][quote3aa99c4fbd="beerman"]checkout twitter sometime[/quote3aa99c4fbd]

Are you referring to my twitter blog when I went to UPSTATE ny, not NYC... and the whole entire blog is me just getting wasted? Good digging but if you really read my twitter you would highly notice I wasn't there to file a suite, lol... i was there getting drunk 24/7[/quote3aa99c4fbd]
So that's how you got your check out of ARG? I knew it was an inside job!

zr2152

15-05-2009 13:04:36

[quote1ab9333fef="hum1m9e8r8b"][quote1ab9333fef="manOFice"][quote1ab9333fef="beerman"]checkout twitter sometime[/quote1ab9333fef]

Are you referring to my twitter blog when I went to UPSTATE ny, not NYC... and the whole entire blog is me just getting wasted? Good digging but if you really read my twitter you would highly notice I wasn't there to file a suite, lol... i was there getting drunk 24/7[/quote1ab9333fef]
So that's how you got your check out of ARG? I knew it was an inside job![/quote1ab9333fef]

Does beerman know the difference between NYC and NY?


LOL...I guess not.

Manofice,

Thanks for trying to be helpful and being completely honest with us. It's sad that there are so many immature and stubborn people on this forum that don't appreciate you going out of your way to answer questions and post your check.

Eeyore

15-05-2009 13:24:48

[quoted10524bdc1="hum1m9e8r8b"][quoted10524bdc1="manOFice"][quoted10524bdc1="beerman"]checkout twitter sometime[/quoted10524bdc1]

Are you referring to my twitter blog when I went to UPSTATE ny, not NYC... and the whole entire blog is me just getting wasted? Good digging but if you really read my twitter you would highly notice I wasn't there to file a suite, lol... i was there getting drunk 24/7[/quoted10524bdc1]
So that's how you got your check out of ARG? I knew it was an inside job![/quoted10524bdc1]

He took ol' Brad up to the Adirondacks and got him wasted, then took pictures of him doin' a donkey. Right? twisted

(Makes as much sense as Beerman's silly theory).

kinneylamb

15-05-2009 13:32:44

manofice never went to manhattan, and he and his friends were drunk almost the entire time. not in great shape to file a lawsuit. or file anything. he legitimately received a check, get over it. maybe you'll receive yours soon. just stop being a tool.

RolltheStampede

15-05-2009 13:33:00

WOW thread is priceless.

ManofIce simply faxed this image to them with his address on it.
http//www.startupafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/chuck_norris_2.jpg[" alt=""/img28ad59385d]

RolltheStampede

15-05-2009 13:37:12

[quotedbce781b9b="beerman"]checkout twitter sometime[/quotedbce781b9b]

hey Beerman do me next, ummm what did I have for breakfast last Thursday?

RolltheStampede

15-05-2009 13:40:02

[quote53c555b332="manOFice"][quote53c555b332="beerman"]checkout twitter sometime[/quote53c555b332]

Are you referring to my twitter blog when I went to UPSTATE ny, not NYC... and the whole entire blog is me just getting wasted? Good digging but if you really read my twitter you would highly notice I wasn't there to file a suite, lol... i was there getting drunk 24/7[/quote53c555b332]


You looking snazzy accepting that award/check from ARG

http//manofice.co.uk/images/photographs_09/5_large.jpg[" alt=""/img53c555b332]
Even Made a video of it.

http//manofice.co.uk

ghounds07

15-05-2009 14:03:06

haha, RTS with the triple post, amazing

manOFice

15-05-2009 14:31:33

hahahaha

ashilef

15-05-2009 14:56:00

Back on topic....

Has anyone checked their status to see if there's been any changes?

mariners1999

15-05-2009 15:04:57

[quote77025adc91="ashilef"]Back on topic....

Has anyone checked their status to see if there's been any changes?[/quote77025adc91]

I am guessing that manOFice is the 1/7000 that they ship this month. 1/6999 will ship next month good luck to everyone in the drawing!
Hell that is better odds than Powerball baby!!! And every month the odds
get better!

roll

M

Powerbook

15-05-2009 15:34:18

Who wants to call Brad at home? D I found this link online

http//freebiescoop.com/brad-powers-of-active-response-group


God bless who ever is doing this.

tp24

15-05-2009 15:35:53

You mean I will be sure to receive my check by the year 2149? Cool, where do I sign?

bruman

15-05-2009 15:46:08

Alright guys- I got through to someone in higher management who is in charge of the mpell reimbursements.. so this is definitely as official of a response as we can get.

They basically told me they are in the final stages of the audit and checks will be mailed in [b16b26df06b]June[/b16b26df06b].

So I advise everybody... calm the storm, relax until then. It took me a while and a lot of digging to get through to this person and this is definitely reliable info.

Powerbook

15-05-2009 15:50:03

I won't be doing anything drastic. Do you think if were to be civil and contact Brad directly, he might actually respond and follow up?

mariners1999

15-05-2009 15:50:22

[quoteb08a41c3b1="bruman"]Alright guys- I got through to someone in higher management who is in charge of the mpell reimbursements.. so this is definitely as official of a response as we can get.

They basically told me they are in the final stages of the audit and checks will be mailed in June.

So I advise everybody... calm the storm, relax until then. It took me a while and a lot of digging to get through to this person and this is definitely reliable info.[/quoteb08a41c3b1]

Bruman,

Thanks!!! It is the people like you and the cute "what is Brad Powers doing with your money? that keeps me sane in this whole thing.

June huh?........ How weird that manOFice got his check but all our checks will come in June....... I hope that we see just a few more checks go shipped in the next few weeks and that is what will make me feel better!

mariners1999

15-05-2009 15:51:42

[quotefe176565b6="Powerbook"]I won't be doing anything drastic. Do you think if were to be civil and contact Brad directly, he might actually respond and follow up?[/quotefe176565b6]

If I remember correctly in this thread someone posted on his facebook page and he removed it and told them to call customer servie. (with 142+ pages my memory could be incorrect)

M

bruman

15-05-2009 15:59:00

[quote8b3979e7b6="mariners1999"][quote8b3979e7b6="bruman"]Alright guys- I got through to someone in higher management who is in charge of the mpell reimbursements.. so this is definitely as official of a response as we can get.

They basically told me they are in the final stages of the audit and checks will be mailed in June.

So I advise everybody... calm the storm, relax until then. It took me a while and a lot of digging to get through to this person and this is definitely reliable info.[/quote8b3979e7b6]

Bruman,

Thanks!!! It is the people like you and the cute "what is Brad Powers doing with your money? that keeps me sane in this whole thing.

June huh?........ How weird that manOFice got his check but all our checks will come in June....... I hope that we see just a few more checks go shipped in the next few weeks and that is what will make me feel better![/quote8b3979e7b6]

Well if this person said June I'm pretty positive it'll be June and not anymore this month, that's how key of a person they are. That's one of the reasons I posted it, so people don't go crazy when nothing ships in the next two weeks. I think we're almost to the finish line with this thing though guys.. just hold on for what'll (hopefully) be the final lap )

RolltheStampede

15-05-2009 15:59:48

[quote1f92364068="bruman"]
They basically told me they are in the final stages of the audit and checks will be mailed in [b1f92364068]June 20XX[/b1f92364068].
[/quote1f92364068]

Fixed

J/k Here is hoping we see money soon

Eeyore

15-05-2009 16:05:40

[quote4acb20f705="bruman"]Alright guys- I got through to someone in higher management who is in charge of the mpell reimbursements.. so this is definitely as official of a response as we can get.

They basically told me they are in the final stages of the audit and checks will be mailed in [b4acb20f705]June[/b4acb20f705].[/quote4acb20f705]
Thanks for doing the legwork and thanks for letting us know. I suspect they know they've got a legal powderkeg about to go off...

Mid-June is also 1 year since I went CTS on my oldest site so in the end this did considerably speed them up for me. D

RolltheStampede

15-05-2009 16:11:44

They saw the picture of Chuck Norris and knew not to F%$ around.

ohboyitsryan

15-05-2009 16:32:05

still can't trust these people but we will see what happens.

props on the info, bruman.

kinneylamb

15-05-2009 17:12:10

what i get from that, is the bulk of them will be finished in june, with checks going out weekly now, as indicated from manofice and other members that will be getting them soon. im sticking to that.

edit you know in nascar, they can be in the final lap, then someone crashes into a wall, rolls across the track in flames and screws up the race for everybody else

Eeyore

15-05-2009 19:58:10

NASCAR? Hell, that's a commute on the Eisenhower in Chicago on any weekday morning... )

ghounds07

15-05-2009 19:58:31

[quotecf873c686e="mariners1999"][quotecf873c686e="Powerbook"]I won't be doing anything drastic. Do you think if were to be civil and contact Brad directly, he might actually respond and follow up?[/quotecf873c686e]

If I remember correctly in this thread someone posted on his facebook page and he removed it and told them to call customer servie. (with 142+ pages my memory could be incorrect)

M[/quotecf873c686e]

Yeah, that was me, and he basically just brushed me off and said to contact their (useless) CS, and then never responded to my follow-up message. How nice of him.

Zags1199

15-05-2009 23:10:39

Well, bruman, I certainly hope you're right. I'd like to trust the information you were given, but since their upper management has made and broken so many promises, I'm still skeptical about this new date. I still don't understand what's going on with ARG and why it's taking them so long, but hopefully they will now stick to their word (for once).

jasonatsmtc

16-05-2009 07:25:40

[quotea6703e4bc2="kinneylamb"]what i get from that, is the bulk of them will be finished in june, with checks going out weekly now, as indicated from manofice and other members that will be getting them soon. im sticking to that.

edit you know in nascar, they can be in the final lap, then someone crashes into a wall, rolls across the track in flames and screws up the race for everybody else[/quotea6703e4bc2]
has any other member reported going shipped?

Swat1

16-05-2009 07:43:23

[quote3a1e8ef9f0="jasonatsmtc"][quote3a1e8ef9f0="kinneylamb"]what i get from that, is the bulk of them will be finished in june, with checks going out weekly now, as indicated from manofice and other members that will be getting them soon. im sticking to that.

edit you know in nascar, they can be in the final lap, then someone crashes into a wall, rolls across the track in flames and screws up the race for everybody else[/quote3a1e8ef9f0]
has any other member reported going shipped?[/quote3a1e8ef9f0]

I know of one other person...

cronerd

16-05-2009 10:51:27

this forum never ceases to amaze me, from secret rendezvous with ARG, to talk of lawsuits, even to "my friend" went shipped and then the occasional cat fight there's never a dull moment P

kinneylamb

16-05-2009 15:26:37

[quote964f3face6="jasonatsmtc"][quote964f3face6="kinneylamb"]what i get from that, is the bulk of them will be finished in june, with checks going out weekly now, as indicated from manofice and other members that will be getting them soon. im sticking to that.

edit you know in nascar, they can be in the final lap, then someone crashes into a wall, rolls across the track in flames and screws up the race for everybody else[/quote964f3face6]
has any other member reported going shipped?[/quote964f3face6]
no, but i was sticking to the audit getting done, checks going out weekly thing. someone's polishing the lawsuit missle anyway haha so it'd be in their best interest.

Gigante

16-05-2009 16:44:11

[quote974794c06b="cronerd"]this forum never ceases to amaze me, from secret rendezvous with ARG, to talk of lawsuits, even to "my friend" went shipped and then the occasional cat fight there's never a dull moment P[/quote974794c06b]

The newbies that are out of the loop also never fail to amaze me.

mistertomlinson

16-05-2009 18:46:05

Can I haz free monie 2?

Gman14

16-05-2009 22:14:44

wait so like i just signed up and did offers i shud expect my money soon rite?

/sarcasm (aka newb-ism)

wiebelhaus03

16-05-2009 23:30:45

hey apparantly their not sending out gifts anymore they have you go through some other company named mpell or something did this happen to anyone else?

heather77

16-05-2009 23:58:44

rofl

Zags1199

17-05-2009 00:08:13

I remember a while back (either in this thread or another) when someone thought all you had to do was buy something without completing anything through Brandarama and send the receipt to Mpell to be reimbursed, as if Mpell was doing the service for free and basically giving away money. Classic.

mistertomlinson

17-05-2009 05:31:30

[quote3e80b18709="wiebelhaus03"]hey apparantly their not sending out gifts anymore they have you go through some other company named mpell or something did this happen to anyone else?[/quote3e80b18709]

http//i135.photobucket.com/albums/q144/mistertomlinson/MPELL.jpg[" alt=""/img3e80b18709]

cronerd

17-05-2009 13:48:35

[quotecf89a1501d="wiebelhaus03"]hey apparantly their not sending out gifts anymore they have you go through some other company named mpell or something did this happen to anyone else?[/quotecf89a1501d]
rofl,now that was a good one

mariners1999

18-05-2009 15:56:38

so has anyone here tried this????

(found on http//freebiescoop.com/how-to-get-active-response-group-to-pay-you#comments)

How to get Active Response Group to Pay You
Posted on May 18th, 2009 FreebieScoop 1 comment


This is a step by step guide of how to get Active Response Group / Brandarama to give you what they owe you.

This was successfully completed and payment was received within 2 weeks.

1. Call (212) 268-4535 and someone will answer, usually a female. Ask for Priyanka Yadav. If they tell you she’s not there, ask for Gabrielle Kramer.

2. Once on the phone with Priyanka or Gabrielle, tell them you want your Brandarama reward or you will be going forward with your filing directly with the attorney general. Tell them not to waste their time sending you a check and that you want the money wired directly to your bank account. You’ve waited long enough, you don’t want to wait longer for a “check”.


3. If they tell you they only send checks, tell them you don’t want a check, and if they attempt to send a check that you will proceed with your filing with the attorney general of New York.

4. Give them your bank account info and wait for your cash to come in.




This method has worked for two of our staff. Jump on this quick though, because once everyone finds it, ARG is likely to stop processing this and simply wait to be hammered from the NY AG.


[b7163384c0b]Funny thing is I referenced the number to call 2 weeks ago when I searched for numbers. I guess I just did not know who to ask for.[/b7163384c0b]

Eeyore

18-05-2009 17:04:37

Yeah I saw that earlier today. Problem with that bank account thing is giving enough information to deposit money into your account also gives them enough information to take money out. While I don't think anyone there would be stupid enough to try that, why tempt them?

A check would work just fine. If it bounces then you have that to add to your AG complaint...

RyanG

18-05-2009 20:07:12

Doubt this will even work by tomorrow. Too many people doing it.

dougp70

18-05-2009 20:11:11

Jesus Herbert Christ. Everytime we think we're about to get paid, there's another futhermucking delay. So at least anoooother month huh? So next month they'll say something like they have to wait on the paper shipment before they can start printing checks, or since the price of postage went up they have to figure out that whole mess. Stall, stall, stall.

kinneylamb

18-05-2009 21:06:55

[quotebe49729ade="Eeyore"]Yeah I saw that earlier today. Problem with that bank account thing is giving enough information to deposit money into your account also gives them enough information to take money out. While I don't think anyone there would be stupid enough to try that, why tempt them?

A check would work just fine. If it bounces then you have that to add to your AG complaint...[/quotebe49729ade]

yeah really, just file your BBB and AG complaint. ARG is saying june for the rest of the checks, based on this timetable you'd get the money in one way or another right. if not, sue. or then call that number.

good thing june is coming soon. i dont think we can wait much longer. like for real.

orangejuice

18-05-2009 21:26:33

I still say going up there in person will do it the best. I don't know what kind of office they have there and if you can just walk directly up to a person there or not. I might have an attorney go with me on my next trip to long island. It's a shame its not winter anymore so you can't wear a leather jacket.

zr2152

18-05-2009 22:30:52

[quote450762e4aa="orangejuice"]I still say going up there in person will do it the best. I don't know what kind of office they have there and if you can just walk directly up to a person there or not. I might have an attorney go with me on my next trip to long island. It's a shame its not winter anymore so you can't wear a leather jacket.[/quote450762e4aa]

Well you could but you just might sweat a little.

orangejuice

18-05-2009 22:42:29

Also, has anyone that filed an AG complaint heard anything yet? Its been a couple of weeks and i didnt hear anything back on it. also filed an FTC and IC3 complaint. hmm.

bennyboy5768

18-05-2009 22:59:52

[quote99c0879828="mariners1999"]so has anyone here tried this????

(found on http//freebiescoop.com/how-to-get-active-response-group-to-pay-you#comments)

How to get Active Response Group to Pay You
Posted on May 18th, 2009 FreebieScoop 1 comment


This is a step by step guide of how to get Active Response Group / Brandarama to give you what they owe you.

This was successfully completed and payment was received within 2 weeks.

1. Call (212) 268-4535 and someone will answer, usually a female. Ask for Priyanka Yadav. If they tell you she’s not there, ask for Gabrielle Kramer.

2. Once on the phone with Priyanka or Gabrielle, tell them you want your Brandarama reward or you will be going forward with your filing directly with the attorney general. Tell them not to waste their time sending you a check and that you want the money wired directly to your bank account. You’ve waited long enough, you don’t want to wait longer for a “check”.


3. If they tell you they only send checks, tell them you don’t want a check, and if they attempt to send a check that you will proceed with your filing with the attorney general of New York.

4. Give them your bank account info and wait for your cash to come in.




This method has worked for two of our staff. Jump on this quick though, because once everyone finds it, ARG is likely to stop processing this and simply wait to be hammered from the NY AG.


[b99c0879828]Funny thing is I referenced the number to call 2 weeks ago when I searched for numbers. I guess I just did not know who to ask for.[/b99c0879828][/quote99c0879828]

Just in case they give you any crap

Gabrielle Kramer http//www.facebook.com/people/Gabrielle-Kramer/597830897

Priyanka Yadav http//www.facebook.com/people/Priyanka-Yadav/505409113

They're friends of each other btw.

madmanx33

19-05-2009 01:17:13

[quote32acebf7d7="bennyboy5768"][quote32acebf7d7="mariners1999"]so has anyone here tried this????

(found on http//freebiescoop.com/how-to-get-active-response-group-to-pay-you#comments)

How to get Active Response Group to Pay You
Posted on May 18th, 2009 FreebieScoop 1 comment


This is a step by step guide of how to get Active Response Group / Brandarama to give you what they owe you.

This was successfully completed and payment was received within 2 weeks.

1. Call (212) 268-4535 and someone will answer, usually a female. Ask for Priyanka Yadav. If they tell you she’s not there, ask for Gabrielle Kramer.

2. Once on the phone with Priyanka or Gabrielle, tell them you want your Brandarama reward or you will be going forward with your filing directly with the attorney general. Tell them not to waste their time sending you a check and that you want the money wired directly to your bank account. You’ve waited long enough, you don’t want to wait longer for a “check”.


3. If they tell you they only send checks, tell them you don’t want a check, and if they attempt to send a check that you will proceed with your filing with the attorney general of New York.

4. Give them your bank account info and wait for your cash to come in.




This method has worked for two of our staff. Jump on this quick though, because once everyone finds it, ARG is likely to stop processing this and simply wait to be hammered from the NY AG.


[b32acebf7d7]Funny thing is I referenced the number to call 2 weeks ago when I searched for numbers. I guess I just did not know who to ask for.[/b32acebf7d7][/quote32acebf7d7]

Just in case they give you any crap

Gabrielle Kramer http//www.facebook.com/people/Gabrielle-Kramer/597830897

Priyanka Yadav http//www.facebook.com/people/Priyanka-Yadav/505409113

They're friends of each other btw.[/quote32acebf7d7]


Exact reason why i never use my real name spelling on facebook.

mistertomlinson

19-05-2009 05:45:41

So, if I post my phone number, you'll give me your bank account info?

oleus

19-05-2009 07:03:47

i don't plan on calling either of those women who work at ARG directly, i am not going to give my bank account # to a company who seemingly has no morals.

FreeOffersNow

19-05-2009 07:23:02

Was just clicking out of curiosity...looks like http//www.facebook.com/people/Priyanka-Yadav/505409113 is gone already )

oleus

19-05-2009 07:32:09

[quote7f19b0f3ee="FreeOffersNow"]Was just clicking out of curiosity...looks like http//www.facebook.com/people/Priyanka-Yadav/505409113 is gone already )[/quote7f19b0f3ee]

which probably means that "how to get your money" link was read/followed by many!!

i didn't do it, but i'm glad the pressure is on. maybe someone in the company having to change their facebook account (a big big deal to some people in these sorry times) will actually make some waves LOL

wishful thinking i know, if anything it will probably cause our checks to be shipped in the fall and not summer...

crazy4beatz

19-05-2009 07:59:18

im in NYC
should i hit up their office?

potsey2007

19-05-2009 08:04:32

Gabrielle's is gone too!

oleus

19-05-2009 08:07:02

[quoteb64d2a0b52="potsey2007"]Gabrielle's is gone too![/quoteb64d2a0b52]

it's fitting that this whole saga has turned so absurd. HINT TO ANYONE AT ARG READING THIS FORUM - PAY THE PEOPLE YOU OWE MONEY TO.

PS - i'm getting the "checks will be mailed out weekly" line again, that's the same answer i was told last Fall when i had onlly been waiting A YEAR. I think it's time for a NY AG complaint. enough is ENOUGH.

FreeOffersNow

19-05-2009 08:25:35

It's unlikely they removed their pages because they saw it on this form. Rather, they were probably flooded with requests from both FIPG members and lurkers alike.

I'm sure there's someone at ARG who trolls the various forums, though.

stephaneos

19-05-2009 08:52:59

[quote66848e4336="orangejuice"]I still say going up there in person will do it the best. I don't know what kind of office they have there and if you can just walk directly up to a person there or not. I might have an attorney go with me on my next trip to long island. It's a shame its not winter anymore so you can't wear a leather jacket.[/quote66848e4336]

You know the address used to mail redemption forms is a mailbox store, right? It could be staked out, I suppose. ;-)

JANGALANG32

19-05-2009 09:47:46

i decided to file with the NY AG office. does anyone have a picture of the mpell certificates they can send me. i want to send in all the info showing how many times they said i met all requirements and then DQ'D me

orangejuice

19-05-2009 10:15:56

Sure. PM me. I am going to blank out my name and stuff though so i don't know if that is going to help you. You should have made copies of yours..

Also, I have to go to LI at some point next week to meet someone, if i get out early i will take a ride over to that address and see what exactly is going on there.

bruman

19-05-2009 10:19:47

It's pretty obvious why they haven't accommodated anyone on BBB or AG complaints. Think about it.. if they started resolving the BBB complaints (sending people the checks), just think how many more they would receive because people would be like "Wow! This guy filed a BBB report and got his check shipped. I'm going to do that too!" And then everyone starts filing a complaint and they just pile in (moreso than they have). And that's just because of our organization here and in other online communities, so it's better for them to simply ignore them.

And the truth is there's not much we can do besides wait it out. But the good news is June is almost here. Obviously numerous people have somehow gotten lucky and either talked to someone special or whatever and got their checks shipped or money wired.. so they are shipping. They would not be doing this if they were planning on not paying us, as you know the paranoid among us have wailing out their grave despair for the past 60 pages..
So as I've been saying this entire time.. I know these delays absolutely suck, but rest assured we will get our money.

orangejuice

19-05-2009 10:40:29

The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.

bruman

19-05-2009 10:40:35

Oh, and the person I spoke to was Priyanka. She is the Director of Fullfillment -- the person in charge of the shipping of the cash back certificates. She was the one who was helping several people get their checks expedited. Now that freebiescoop leaked the info the secrets out now though. I didn't want to reveal her name publicly because, obviously, shit like this happens and now she is just going to ignore EVERYBODY.

But, like I said, she said checks are going to go out in June. She's the one writing the checks and in charge of fulfillment so she should know, and we don't have any reason to doubt that info.

bruman

19-05-2009 10:41:25

[quotea6232c2bd8="orangejuice"]The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.[/quotea6232c2bd8]

Yeah, I'm not talking to you. You got DQ'd for frauding offers so you're not even apart of this. You should be banned.

janarae

19-05-2009 11:00:07

[quote31401c5eb9="bruman"]Oh, and the person I spoke to was Priyanka. She is the Director of Fullfillment -- the person in charge of the shipping of the cash back certificates. She was the one who was helping several people get their checks expedited. Now that freebiescoop leaked the info the secrets out now though. I didn't want to reveal her name publicly because, obviously, shit like this happens and now she is just going to ignore EVERYBODY.

But, like I said, she said checks are going to go out in June. She's the one writing the checks and in charge of fulfillment so she should know, and we don't have any reason to doubt that info.[/quote31401c5eb9]

Sounds good but my reason to doubt it is b/c they have never honored any timeframes they've given out thusfar so why would they start now?

Zags1199

19-05-2009 11:08:50

I still have reason to doubt Priyanka too, considering she told Customer Service my check would go out in February, and I still haven't gotten anything. There's really no reason to trust her, but I hope she's telling the truth this time.

bruman

19-05-2009 11:38:43

Because the enactment of the mpell certificates was an intent to catch up with shipping and pay us. It's a whole new ball game. And they were not expecting such a high response to the certificates, so that's why you didn't get yours in February. Since then though, since April when the mpell program came to a close they've had the opportunity to look over everything and see where they are at and see how much they owe us. So that's why the information gathered today is reliable compared to before when everything was going through its processes.

And you can see from her linkedin profile (http//www.linkedin.com/pub/priyanka-yadav/2/1b9/9a7[]http//www.linkedin.com/pub/priyanka-yadav/2/1b9/9a7) that she had a position change to "Director Fulfillment" January 2009 -- when mpell came into play, so obviously she's the key person and the one that would know.

bruman

19-05-2009 12:02:57

I see FreebieScoop just posted a new blog..

[quote6edd7cc908]Active Response Group has been bombarded with calls from users demanding to be paid. Until yesterday, a friendly representative was answering the phone lines at ARG. Now it appears that no receptionist picks up calls and all calls are routed to an automated system. Selecting 0 to speak with an operator will only loop you back to the new automated message. To contact any employees, you must use the automated directory. Once at the directory, you must use your phone to enter the name of the person you’re trying to contact. It seems that our previous post was more popular than we had anticipated, and has led to ARG making it more difficult to contact them. Don’t worry though, you will get your money. This is just one more step of “breakage” you must overcome to get your check or cash.[/quote6edd7cc908]

orangejuice

19-05-2009 12:08:08

[quote9acc791ad6="bruman"][quote9acc791ad6="orangejuice"]The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.[/quote9acc791ad6]

Yeah, I'm not talking to you. You got DQ'd for frauding offers so you're not even apart of this. You should be banned.[/quote9acc791ad6]

Haha. I dont care. I made back half of that this month from work anyhow.

manOFice

19-05-2009 12:28:42

[quoteacb145d4f6="bruman"]I see FreebieScoop just posted a new blog..

[quoteacb145d4f6]Active Response Group has been bombarded with calls from users demanding to be paid. Until yesterday, a friendly representative was answering the phone lines at ARG. Now it appears that no receptionist picks up calls and all calls are routed to an automated system. Selecting 0 to speak with an operator will only loop you back to the new automated message. To contact any employees, you must use the automated directory. Once at the directory, you must use your phone to enter the name of the person you’re trying to contact. It seems that our previous post was more popular than we had anticipated, and has led to ARG making it more difficult to contact them. Don’t worry though, you will get your money. This is just one more step of “breakage” you must overcome to get your check or cash.[/quoteacb145d4f6][/quoteacb145d4f6]

yeah that was stupid of them to post that.....

Eeyore

19-05-2009 12:28:50

[quotec753b72729="orangejuice"][quotec753b72729="bruman"][quotec753b72729="orangejuice"]The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.[/quotec753b72729]

Yeah, I'm not talking to you. You got DQ'd for frauding offers so you're not even apart of this. You should be banned.[/quotec753b72729]

Haha. I dont care. I made back half of that this month from work anyhow.[/quotec753b72729]
It took you a month? Slacker.

tylerc

19-05-2009 12:34:42

[quote1ac096e074="orangejuice"][quote1ac096e074="bruman"][quote1ac096e074="orangejuice"]The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.[/quote1ac096e074]

Yeah, I'm not talking to you. You got DQ'd for frauding offers so you're not even apart of this. You should be banned.[/quote1ac096e074]

Haha. I dont care. I made back half of that this month from work anyhow.[/quote1ac096e074]

Good for you. Why are you cluttering the thread then?

kinneylamb

19-05-2009 12:42:55

[quote4af2826228="JANGALANG32"]i decided to file with the NY AG office. does anyone have a picture of the mpell certificates they can send me. i want to send in all the info showing how many times they said i met all requirements and then DQ'D me[/quote4af2826228]
take this advice -- and anyone else -- you should have made copies of them. always make copies of anything, whenever you mail something in. g/l finding a copy.

RolltheStampede

19-05-2009 12:44:48

[quotea4314c5e37="kinneylamb"][quotea4314c5e37="JANGALANG32"]i decided to file with the NY AG office. does anyone have a picture of the mpell certificates they can send me. i want to send in all the info showing how many times they said i met all requirements and then DQ'D me[/quotea4314c5e37]
take this advice -- and anyone else -- you should have made copies of them. always make copies of anything, whenever you do anything with paperwork. good luck finding a copy.[/quotea4314c5e37]

your post only serves to kick someone while they are down.

and mine only serves to call you out on it.

kinneylamb

19-05-2009 12:50:08

well obvious he didnt and maybe he doesnt have someone to tell him that, you might forget the lesson to learn in the middle of trying to find a copy and file an AG report you know. copies copies copies nail it into your brain cause it helps you out later on.. and there will be a later on.

JANGALANG32

19-05-2009 13:34:27

[quote36ced13745="kinneylamb"]well obvious he didnt and maybe he doesnt have someone to tell him that, you might forget the lesson to learn in the middle of trying to find a copy and file an AG report you know. copies copies copies nail it into your brain cause it helps you out later on.. and there will be a later on.[/quote36ced13745]

i was already pm'd a copy so dont worry about. not everybody is selfish like you

ashilef

19-05-2009 16:49:36

[quotea22b5c71d0="RolltheStampede"][quotea22b5c71d0="kinneylamb"][quotea22b5c71d0="JANGALANG32"]i decided to file with the NY AG office. does anyone have a picture of the mpell certificates they can send me. i want to send in all the info showing how many times they said i met all requirements and then DQ'D me[/quotea22b5c71d0]
take this advice -- and anyone else -- you should have made copies of them. always make copies of anything, whenever you do anything with paperwork. good luck finding a copy.[/quotea22b5c71d0]

[ba22b5c71d0]your post only serves to kick someone while they are down.[/ba22b5c71d0]

and mine only serves to call you out on it.[/quotea22b5c71d0]

I agree with this, I'm sure he's fully aware now that he should have made copies, just by having to frantically (assumption here) look for one. No need to make him feel worse. But since someone was nice enough to send a copy of theirs he's good now.

kinneylamb

19-05-2009 16:50:52

hey asswipe i would have been the first to offer you a copy but i dont have a scanner at home. psh you ppl are funny

ashilef

19-05-2009 16:57:34

[quote75eb4065ba="kinneylamb"]hey asswipe i would have been the first to offer you a copy but i dont have a scanner at home. psh you ppl are funny[/quote75eb4065ba]

nevermind...

kinneylamb

19-05-2009 17:03:51

im not telling you anything new. so i dont get that

i just wanna get paid, hows that, then we wouldnt be here talking about this stuff period

oleus

20-05-2009 12:16:36

[quote929d78b27b="orangejuice"]The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.[/quote929d78b27b]

unfortunately i have to agree.

ohboyitsryan

20-05-2009 12:38:45

I'll be in NYC on June 23rd for a business trip. if i am not paid by then I will storm the building and play robin hood to as many of you as I can.

skinnyhoops

20-05-2009 12:55:00

ugh, getting a mailing address changed through their customer support is about impossible....been trying to update mine since February '09

I keep getting the same replies saying "Your information has been forwarded." YourTopBrands corporate office is a bunch of incompetent bean counters

RolltheStampede

20-05-2009 19:00:32

[quotef93db07745="skinnyhoops"]ugh, getting a mailing address changed through their customer support is about impossible....been trying to update mine since February '09

I keep getting the same replies saying "Your information has been forwarded." YourTopBrands corporate office is a bunch of incompetent bean counters[/quotef93db07745]

YOu should have called while they were answering the phones.

try writing a letter?

RolltheStampede

20-05-2009 19:01:56

[quote57a0501d8b="ohboyitsryan"]I'll be in NYC on June 23rd for a business trip. if i am not paid by then I will storm the building and play robin hood to as many of you as I can.[/quote57a0501d8b]

Look hes checking the mail, JUMP EM

rustvyper

21-05-2009 14:36:02

Do you think if I emailed ARG that they are gonna repo my body-armor here in Afganistan, that I bought with my Mpell $1800 they'd pay up? )

RolltheStampede

21-05-2009 16:26:00

Well if you are in AFghan then they will tell you that they sent your check but you just never went to pick it up.

mistertomlinson

21-05-2009 22:32:18

If you are in Afghanistan, they would tell you the promotion is only available in America.

... but you'd still probably get your check before me. (

bruman

22-05-2009 09:50:28

[quote1a275c2edd="oleus"][quote1a275c2edd="orangejuice"]The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.[/quote1a275c2edd]

unfortunately i have to agree.[/quote1a275c2edd]

If nothing is seen in June then I definitely agree we should turn up the heat and start fighting for our money.. but until then, I think it's reasonable to give them this last bit of time (it's still "only" been three weeks since their e-mail regarding delays) and see what happens.

viperklt21

22-05-2009 14:38:53

[quote9bee4cbbc3="bruman"][quote9bee4cbbc3="oleus"][quote9bee4cbbc3="orangejuice"]The checks won't come in june bro. It isnt going to happen.[/quote9bee4cbbc3]

unfortunately i have to agree.[/quote9bee4cbbc3]

If nothing is seen in June then I definitely agree we should turn up the heat and start fighting for our money.. but until then, I think it's reasonable to give them this last bit of time (it's still "only" been three weeks since their e-mail regarding delays) and see what happens.[/quote9bee4cbbc3]

Congratulations!!!! You are the 1000 post to say If they don't start paying by "insert random date" we need to "insert random saying here."

mistertomlinson

22-05-2009 15:03:49

Oh yeah, well I think we should bring it to a boil for 10 minutes then reduce the heat to a simmer until tender then serve with a dollop of sour cream! That's right, I said it! o

RolltheStampede

22-05-2009 17:07:17

http//www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/swedish_chef.jpg[" alt=""/img354d4f6193]

cooking with brandarama

oleus

23-05-2009 07:58:15

anyone checked out the latest freebie link/ARG thing posted on josh clark?

tylerc

23-05-2009 08:42:25

How about posting a link?

oleus

23-05-2009 10:31:01

[quote44d2ad041f="tylerc"]How about posting a link?[/quote44d2ad041f]

because i'm not touching that with a ten foot pole. hopefully you'll see what i mean

here's a link to the discussion though


http//joshclark.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1168&start=720

slambam

23-05-2009 11:10:41

[quotea8027ea2c0="oleus"]
because i'm not touching that with a ten foot pole. hopefully you'll see what i mean

here's a link to the discussion though


http//joshclark.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1168&start=720[/quotea8027ea2c0]

shrug I don't see.... Are you referring to them looking at going after mpell about California's rebate laws?

oleus

23-05-2009 11:20:29

no , the link towards the bottom of the last page of that thread

i don't think it's going to be anything that helps us get our money any faster, unfortunately. probably the opposite.

tylerc

23-05-2009 11:41:34

[quotee2d322440f="oleus"]no , the link towards the bottom of the last page of that thread

i don't think it's going to be anything that helps us get our money any faster, unfortunately. probably the opposite.[/quotee2d322440f]

That's nothing new, that information has been out for a while now.

orangejuice

23-05-2009 14:08:46

If it wasnt against the law i would go ahead and deface all of the brandarama sites and tell people not to do them

orangejuice

23-05-2009 15:30:20

Anyone notice how they responded to only this ripoffreport complaint but neither of the hundreds of others?

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/438/RipOff0438104.htm

paulyhasit

24-05-2009 09:36:21

I think it is time someone builds brandaramascam.com and maybe a wikipedia page that lists a history of the scams they have tried to pull. I think it would really hit a nerve with the company.

-paulyhasit

slambam

24-05-2009 11:40:53

I wonder if this was cheap enough that Brandarama decided to respond to the BBB complaint and send it or what.

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/436/RipOff0436070.htm

bruman

24-05-2009 13:56:28

[quote9501c2c17a="slambam"]I wonder if this was cheap enough that Brandarama decided to respond to the BBB complaint and send it or what.

http//www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/436/RipOff0436070.htm[/quote9501c2c17a]

He filed a BBB report pretty much immediately after he received the mpell certificate. So it's probably a combination of how little he was owed and the fact that he jumped on them right away and complained before everyone else (similar to how the people recently complained to higher management and got their checks shipped faster). But of course this stops after everyone jumps in and wants the same treatment roll

mistertomlinson

26-05-2009 14:23:36

SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING! x

krazikorean

26-05-2009 14:32:29

So, i just emailed them a little on what i feeling on the company and the process of what we all had to go through. Was pretty polite and just i guess "venting to them". Hopefully that will get them to maybe look at my account and push it through faster!! i hope, i am giving them another week or 2 before i give up and go file a comlaint.

Gman14

26-05-2009 15:44:05

I just emailed them as well. I think I was pretty straight forward with my points. Lets wait and see.

oleus

26-05-2009 15:45:44

i hate to be pessimistic but you guys will probably either get the delays form-letter or the "checks are going out weekly" response.

bruman

26-05-2009 16:26:29

If you guys are e-mailing and complaining to customer service than you're wasting your time. They don't have anything to do with the shipping and can really only help with generic or technical issues. For shipping issues they are just told what to say by higher management and unfortunately, it seems, they don't have very good line of communication and are not updated very often as to what's going on over there. So if you guys want to complain figure out a way to do it to the people that are actually in charge, but of course be polite about it.

On the other hand I haven't heard anyone contact CS in like over a week so maybe they've been told something new... I don't know. I would guess you'll just get some generic copy-and-paste response but let us know. I'm sure you'll get a response tomorrow, they are pretty quick in answering them.

Gman14

26-05-2009 16:44:46

Well, I told them specifically not to email me back with a canned response. I've had some luck by saying that before in the past. (by some luck I mean that a real person actually answered my email. They weren't very helpful but at least it wasn't the automated crap)

bruman

26-05-2009 23:18:34

[quote9d8cb02088="Gman14"]Well, I told them specifically not to email me back with a canned response. I've had some luck by saying that before in the past. (by some luck I mean that a real person actually answered my email. They weren't very helpful but at least it wasn't the automated crap)[/quote9d8cb02088]

Yeah, that helps too. And a real person always reads and answers your e-mail.. there are no completely automated responses. Just to make it quicker (and I'm sure they get a lot of people asking the same exact questions) they have pre-written responses that they use for certain things. But like I said the CS don't know $hit about what's going on as far as shipping is concerned, so I doubt they themselves will be able to give you any viable information. The entire company is completely unorganized.. it's a big company and the employees are assigned a lot of different tasks, many of them aren't even aware of the mpell situation. Some decent communication throughout the company and to the customers (us) would be highly beneficial to them, but so far we haven't seen that. It's always been like that, even when the wait time on Brandarama sites were 3 months.

bayarea05

26-05-2009 23:23:00

i hate going through pages and pages...is there a date set that we are getting our checks?

bruman

26-05-2009 23:31:27

[quotefcd2d28be0="bayarea05"]i hate going through pages and pages...is there a date set that we are getting our checks?[/quotefcd2d28be0]

This is a pretty good update I think

[quotefcd2d28be0]Several people got paid by contacting higher management directly, via checks or wire transfer. Once this information was leaked to the public they got hammered from people requesting their money and stopped doing the expediting of the reimbursements. So far no one has been paid through the normal waiting of the reimbursement process. Priyanka, the person in charge of fulfillment, has stated, for people still waiting, that they are in the final stages of the audit and we'll see them going shipped in June.[/quotefcd2d28be0]

So that's what higher management is saying. As for exactly WHEN in June, who knows. I'm sure they realize the pressure is on so hopefully it'll be sooner rather than later.

bennyboy5768

26-05-2009 23:45:37

[quote2e459a2157="bayarea05"]i hate going through pages and pages...is there a date set that we are getting our checks?[/quote2e459a2157]

What do you mean? You haven't gotten yours yet? Lol. I heard somewhere that most of them will start to go out middle of June but don't hold me to that.

ohboyitsryan

27-05-2009 00:30:09

they aren't unorganized. they just can't afford to pay us out. let's average $500 per account with 7000 outstanding accounts, that's $3.5 million. and I think that's a modest estimate. they don't have the cash on hand to pay out at once, they never did so they stalls to get their cash game up to par. simple as that.

I also don't believe the pressure is "on" because nobody on here has come up with any concrete plans to get their money and actually followed through to the next level besides correspondence. like I said before, I will be in NYC June 23rd, and will attempt to meet with whoever I need to if I'm not paid by then....this is just another classic example of exploitation at it's finest

prizejunkie

27-05-2009 07:14:26

i'm filing the small claims today, fuck it...

prizejunkie

27-05-2009 07:20:46

can someone pm me the old tos, and a copy of the mpell forms

Gman14

27-05-2009 08:05:41

Looks like I might actually get my check soon. I'll keep everyone updated.

ohboyitsryan

27-05-2009 08:11:20

[quote072c91f5a9="Gman14"]Looks like I might actually get my check soon. I'll keep everyone updated.[/quote072c91f5a9]

you gotta love the uninformative and vague posts which have frequented the board. it probably would have served you better to just post when you received something...unless you truly wanted an inbox full of questions.

imapepper

27-05-2009 08:11:54

Care to elaborate on this?

[quote737ae9c5a4="Gman14"]Looks like I might actually get my check soon. I'll keep everyone updated.[/quote737ae9c5a4]

hawke12

27-05-2009 08:19:53

[quoteffe7c34655="Gman14"]Looks like I might actually get my check soon. I'll keep everyone updated.[/quoteffe7c34655]

And why you think that?

bruman

27-05-2009 08:20:28

[quotef4174819f0="ohboyitsryan"]they aren't unorganized. they just can't afford to pay us out. let's average $500 per account with 7000 outstanding accounts, that's $3.5 million. and I think that's a modest estimate. they don't have the cash on hand to pay out at once, they never did so they stalls to get their cash game up to par. simple as that.

I also don't believe the pressure is "on" because nobody on here has come up with any concrete plans to get their money and actually followed through to the next level besides correspondence. like I said before, I will be in NYC June 23rd, and will attempt to meet with whoever I need to if I'm not paid by then....this is just another classic example of exploitation at it's finest[/quotef4174819f0]

I never said their unorganization is the only reason why we haven't gotten paid roll I was simply talking about communication wise in the company, they are definitely unorganized. Of course funding is apart of it too-- that's the whole thing with receiving with a lot more mpell certificates than they originally planned, the "overwhelming response". And when I said pressure I mean it seems just in this past month or two the customers have figured out a way to reach higher management.. then they had to shut down their main phone line, a couple employees felt the need to delete their facebooks -- they know we're getting impatient and it would be in their best interest to send stuff out asap.

bennyboy5768

27-05-2009 08:26:16

[quote39a9a9216c="prizejunkie"]can someone pm me the old tos, and a copy of the mpell forms[/quote39a9a9216c]

www.radioactivehippo.com/brandarama/Brandarama%20Digital%20Millenium%20Copyright%20Notice.png

www.radioactivehippo.com/brandarama/Brandarama%20Gift%20Offer%20Rules%20for%20the.png

www.radioactivehippo.com/brandarama/Brandarama%20Privacy%20Policy.png

www.radioactivehippo.com/brandarama/Brandaramacom%20Terms%20%26%20Conditions.png

Have fun with that. I dont have the MPell forms but I'm sure someone else has a scanned copy for you. BTW if anyone does have a copy I'd be more than happy to host it on my website, just send me a PM.

ohboyitsryan

27-05-2009 08:41:38

[quote29254920e4="bruman"][quote29254920e4="ohboyitsryan"]they aren't unorganized. they just can't afford to pay us out. let's average $500 per account with 7000 outstanding accounts, that's $3.5 million. and I think that's a modest estimate. they don't have the cash on hand to pay out at once, they never did so they stalls to get their cash game up to par. simple as that.

I also don't believe the pressure is "on" because nobody on here has come up with any concrete plans to get their money and actually followed through to the next level besides correspondence. like I said before, I will be in NYC June 23rd, and will attempt to meet with whoever I need to if I'm not paid by then....this is just another classic example of exploitation at it's finest[/quote29254920e4]

I never said their unorganization is the only reason why we haven't gotten paid roll I was simply talking about communication wise in the company, they are definitely unorganized. Of course funding is apart of it too-- that's the whole thing with receiving with a lot more mpell certificates than they originally planned, the "overwhelming response". And when I said pressure I mean it seems just in this past month or two the customers have figured out a way to reach higher management.. then they had to shut down their main phone line, a couple employees felt the need to delete their facebooks -- they know we're getting impatient and it would be in their best interest to send stuff out asap.[/quote29254920e4]

communication is organized based on general business principles everything is on a need to know basis. ARG doesn't need to really inform their low level CS people about their intricate schemes, the CS people are paid to really just tell us what we already see on our status pages and to fix the occasional disappearing offer problem.

higher management doesn't feel pressured now either I wouldn't think, and the fact that some people contacted higher management (which has happened way before this mpell thing btw) won't encourage a sense of urgency on their part, unfortunately. those women who deleted their facebooks only did so to avoid an influx of requests; it was to deter the annoyance. nobody is losing sleep over us in NYC..unless ARG gets served by the Court, they will just be chillin. but please believe that I will do whatever it takes to get mines...you should too.

bruman

27-05-2009 09:11:52

[quote1b68c35211="ohboyitsryan"][quote1b68c35211="bruman"][quote1b68c35211="ohboyitsryan"]they aren't unorganized. they just can't afford to pay us out. let's average $500 per account with 7000 outstanding accounts, that's $3.5 million. and I think that's a modest estimate. they don't have the cash on hand to pay out at once, they never did so they stalls to get their cash game up to par. simple as that.

I also don't believe the pressure is "on" because nobody on here has come up with any concrete plans to get their money and actually followed through to the next level besides correspondence. like I said before, I will be in NYC June 23rd, and will attempt to meet with whoever I need to if I'm not paid by then....this is just another classic example of exploitation at it's finest[/quote1b68c35211]

I never said their unorganization is the only reason why we haven't gotten paid roll I was simply talking about communication wise in the company, they are definitely unorganized. Of course funding is apart of it too-- that's the whole thing with receiving with a lot more mpell certificates than they originally planned, the "overwhelming response". And when I said pressure I mean it seems just in this past month or two the customers have figured out a way to reach higher management.. then they had to shut down their main phone line, a couple employees felt the need to delete their facebooks -- they know we're getting impatient and it would be in their best interest to send stuff out asap.[/quote1b68c35211]

communication is organized based on general business principles everything is on a need to know basis. ARG doesn't need to really inform their low level CS people about their intricate schemes, the CS people are paid to really just tell us what we already see on our status pages and to fix the occasional disappearing offer problem.

higher management doesn't feel pressured now either I wouldn't think, and the fact that some people contacted higher management (which has happened way before this mpell thing btw) won't encourage a sense of urgency on their part, unfortunately. those women who deleted their facebooks only did so to avoid an influx of requests; it was to deter the annoyance. nobody is losing sleep over us in NYC..unless ARG gets served by the Court, they will just be chillin. but please believe that I will do whatever it takes to get mines...you should too.[/quote1b68c35211]

Oh I'm not ruling out anything. I'm just waiting to see how the month of June plays itself out.

cronerd

27-05-2009 09:40:38

[quotef1b3013b33="Gman14"]Looks like I might actually get my check soon. I'll keep everyone updated.[/quotef1b3013b33]
ya wtf does that mean? care to explain or leave us all wondering

ploppsdman

27-05-2009 13:54:58

Looks like I might get to have sex with every girl I ever wanted soon. I'll keep everyone updated.

ploppsdman

27-05-2009 13:55:45

Nothing yet.

oleus

27-05-2009 14:01:14

i may have just been hired as president and CEO of arg - i'll keep you guys posted.

mistertomlinson

27-05-2009 14:58:52

[quote515a1db6ee="Gman14"]Looks like I might actually get my check soon. I'll keep everyone updated.[/quote515a1db6ee]

GTFO! x

kinneylamb

28-05-2009 04:27:46

[quote7417c8d923="prizejunkie"]i'm filing the small claims today, fuck it...[/quote7417c8d923]
yea i can't blame you

[quote7417c8d923="prizejunkie"]can someone pm me the old tos, and a copy of the mpell forms[/quote7417c8d923]
i have the mpell forms but i dont have a scanner, i could make copies and mail them out to you P lol

@ ohboyitsryan -- they've absolutely felt anxiety over the payouts. they would not have made a move if they didn't. theyre trying to pay, and now with this shrinking timeline, they've got to pay soon to avoid the inevitable lawsuits. they're pretty much finished after this if they dont pay. lol

@ gman -- update us quick please, with whatever info you have that you dont have to keep to yourself for some reason

for the record, i am confirmed to be shipped. haha

and i just wrote a rather bold email to cs. lets see how that goes.

prizejunkie

28-05-2009 07:42:18

still need a copy of the mpell form, anybody? Small clains is easy, every state has a website where you can download the forms. It costs me less than 20 bucks in NJ, and they have to apear in your state. If they do not apear they will utomaticly lose. As long as you have the old TOS, a copy of the MPEL forms, and whatever customer service emails you have ( have tons), you cant lose!

bruman

28-05-2009 09:04:48

No one posted back saying what their CS response was. What are they saying?

slambam

28-05-2009 09:33:46

Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us.

I have sent a request to management to see if they can move this along....

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

YourTopBrands Member Support

bruman

28-05-2009 09:47:51

[quotefb02ca14ee="slambam"]Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us.

I have sent a request to management to see if they can move this along....

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

YourTopBrands Member Support[/quotefb02ca14ee]

I like the quadruple period at the end lol
Maybe she's starting to get frustrated too

RyanG

28-05-2009 09:48:57

[quoteee2eb48354="bruman"][quoteee2eb48354="slambam"]Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us.

I have sent a request to management to see if they can move this along....

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

YourTopBrands Member Support[/quoteee2eb48354]

I like the quadruple period at the end lol
Maybe she's starting to get frustrated too[/quoteee2eb48354]

lol she gave me the .... too. at first I figured she was giving me attitude, but your reasoning sounds more accurate.

bruman

28-05-2009 12:04:12

And anyone notice that Darren is no longer with us? Must have gave him the boot lol Seems like Sherry is the only person in charge of answering the CS e-mails. Probably a smart decision though if that was the case to cut back.. it's not like the CS responses have slowed down or anything.

RyanG

28-05-2009 12:13:18

They all just might work under the codename 'Sherry' now. Might be easier to keep track of all the e-mails if only one person signs it.

krazikorean

28-05-2009 13:07:04

[quoteb5ed00801e="bruman"]And anyone notice that Darren is no longer with us? Must have gave him the boot lol Seems like Sherry is the only person in charge of answering the CS e-mails. Probably a smart decision though if that was the case to cut back.. it's not like the CS responses have slowed down or anything.[/quoteb5ed00801e]

Negative on that, i just received an email from him today, i sent a bitching letter in why they keep sending the same auto response from shelly. He replied back saying he is sorry and have no time frame of when checks will be shipped out.

RyanG

28-05-2009 13:13:18

[quotedb9ad65953="krazikorean"][quotedb9ad65953="bruman"]And anyone notice that Darren is no longer with us? Must have gave him the boot lol Seems like Sherry is the only person in charge of answering the CS e-mails. Probably a smart decision though if that was the case to cut back.. it's not like the CS responses have slowed down or anything.[/quotedb9ad65953]

Negative on that, i just received an email from him today, i sent a bitching letter in why they keep sending the same auto response from shelly. He replied back saying he is sorry and have no time frame of when checks will be shipped out.[/quotedb9ad65953]

Guess my theory is bunk! lol

nousername

28-05-2009 13:56:39

[quote56e544a581="Gman14"]Looks like I might actually get my check soon. I'll keep everyone updated.[/quote56e544a581]

Did your status change to "shipped"?

oleus

28-05-2009 14:41:38

i got the same "i will forward this to management so they can move this along" - a couple of weeks ago. i'm still not shipped so i hope no one got excited from a similar response. we have no idea if these CSR's are actually forwarding anything along, guys......

kinneylamb

28-05-2009 14:55:53

of course they are. theres been instances where they've forwarded to management bc of people like us, then management gave them something new to say.

dougp70

28-05-2009 19:15:56

This is my latest conversation with CS. Let's see what they say tomorrow. Note that it went from Darren to Sherry and got the same ol' crap.


RE Gift tracking (LTK143016361268X)‏
From Doug
Sent Thu 5/28/09 858 PM
To email==support@cs.usasurveygroup.comsupport@cs.usasurveygroup.com=support@cs.usasurveygroup.comsupport@cs.usasurveygroup.com/email

I would appreciate it if I could get some straight answers instead of some canned response. If I don't receive my money within the next week I will be filing a complaint with the Better Businss Bureau.



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From email==support@cs.usasurveygroup.comsupport@cs.usasurveygroup.com=support@cs.usasurveygroup.comsupport@cs.usasurveygroup.com/email
To dougp70
Subject RE Gift tracking (LTK143016361268X)
Date Wed, 27 May 2009 092153 -0400

Reference number LTK143016361268X Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Subject Gift tracking Dear Doug ,
Thank you for contacting us.
We are experiencing delays in cash back fulfillment. The delay is due to an overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies that has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. Please be assured that all qualified customers shall receive their check as soon as possible. Additionally, please note that you will receive your check directly from Active Response Group. Please do not contact Mpell Solutions as Mpell will not be involved in the final fulfillment of this program

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Sherry
USASurveyGroup Member Support

---------------Original Message---------------
From Doug < >
Subject
RE Gift tracking (LTK143016361268X)
Yes, I did participate in the cash back offer through Mpell. I was told that I would receive the checkin 10 - 12 weeks and it has now been 4 months. I really couldn't afford to pay out that money back in January, but I did it anyway because I trusted that I would receive my check promptly. I am now unemployed, and in desperate need of that money. I can't afford to wait any longer.



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From email==support@cs.usasurveygroup.comsupport@cs.usasurveygroup.com=support@cs.usasurveygroup.comsupport@cs.usasurveygroup.com/email
To dougp70
Subject RE Gift tracking (LTK143016361268X)
Date Tue, 26 May 2009 091340 -0400

Reference number LTK143016361268X Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Subject Gift tracking Dear Doug ,
Thank you for contacting us.
Did you participate in the cash back offer through Mpell?

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Darren
USASurveyGroup Member Support

---------------Original Message---------------
From Doug < >
Subject
Gift tracking
Please tell me my check is coming soon. I am really getting annoyed by this delay, and I am considering filing a BBB complaint.

ashilef

28-05-2009 19:44:00

lisighli sounds like the same shit, different toilet to me.

bruman

28-05-2009 20:05:07

Like I said dougp70, complaining to CS is futile. They don't know anything and can't help with anything with regards to the shipping. The best they can do (although this doesn't seem to have any real effect) is forward information to higher management -- they are the ones who are really in charge.

I also corresponded with CS earlier today. Sherry told me that they are almost done with the audits, but she hasn't been given a date as to when things will ship. I'm still keeping the faith that what Priyanka -- who IS higher management -- told me (and others who spoke to her on the phone) will stand and we'll see them going shipped in June.. which is almost here, so we'll see soon )

Eeyore

28-05-2009 21:45:51

June 15 is my deadline. If there aren't a fair number of people seeing payment by then I'm sending off the demand letter, which is the required precursor to a lawsuit. Enough is enough.

The CSRs are doing what they are paid to do, which is run interference. None of this is going anywhere but their deleted messages folder. Don't kid yourselves. "Management" isn't seeing any of it.

ohboyitsryan

29-05-2009 00:01:27

[quoteecfa89ef79="Eeyore"]June 15 is my deadline. If there aren't a fair number of people seeing payment by then I'm sending off the demand letter, which is the required precursor to a lawsuit. Enough is enough.

The CSRs are doing what they are paid to do, which is run interference. None of this is going anywhere but their deleted messages folder. Don't kid yourselves. "Management" isn't seeing any of it.[/quoteecfa89ef79]

whats stopping you from sending the demand letter now? you've been on the hook for, im assuming, 20+ months. that demand letter should have been sent in 2008...the sooner the better.

orangejuice

29-05-2009 00:16:39

yes send letter now, address to CEO. im doing the same thing. im having an attorney draft it though, and its going to have their letterhead. Maybe that will get somewhere. Or maybe not.


Also, send a copy to their finance manager, that priyanka babe and the other ones that are worth a shit

PS600REVX

29-05-2009 06:09:39

and if they truly are auditing certs wouldn't you assume someone on here would have said something about getting caught for a fake cert? That is a little unsettling and adds doubt in my mind but still trying to stay positive.

Zags1199

29-05-2009 06:45:49

"Woz," who I guess is wozniack, posted this comment on the FreebieScoop blog

[quote6380a93b12="Woz"]May 28th, 2009 at 1709
After 4 days of calling I was finally able to get to Priyanka who said that checks will likely be sent to us in the fall.[/quote6380a93b12]

jasonatsmtc

29-05-2009 07:07:13

[quotec432e2b28d="Zags1199"]"Woz," who I guess is wozniack, posted this comment on the FreebieSociety blog

[quotec432e2b28d="Woz"]May 28th, 2009 at 1709
After 4 days of calling I was finally able to get to Priyanka who said that checks will likely be sent to us in the fall.[/quotec432e2b28d][/quotec432e2b28d]

Ok, well Ill give them to the end of October...blah blah blah

bruman

29-05-2009 10:01:19

[quotec331a9f824="Zags1199"]"Woz," who I guess is wozniack, posted this comment on the FreebieScoop blog

[quotec331a9f824="Woz"]May 28th, 2009 at 1709
After 4 days of calling I was finally able to get to Priyanka who said that checks will likely be sent to us in the fall.[/quotec331a9f824][/quotec331a9f824]

Yeah.. I don't know about that, needs more verification. FreebieScoop is an anonymous blog, anyone can post anything.. wouldn't surprise me if someone just posted that attempting to stir things up. If it was woz over at a4f she probably would have posted something over there as well. I sent her a PM asking about it.

benedict

29-05-2009 10:08:16

this is what they told me after asking them about an ETA for our gifts

Dear xxxxxxxxx,

Thank you for contacting us.

We have not been given a time line.

They are mailing out checks each week. They have not given us a list of the checks that are mailed. Once your check is mailed it will show on your status page that it was sent.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support

oleus

29-05-2009 10:20:46

same old song and dance.

i'm 99% sure the June date mentioned third-hand by the lady at ARG is completely arbitrary and means absolutely nothing.

bruman

29-05-2009 10:25:12

[quote7aad2a9d17="oleus"]same old song and dance.

i'm 99% sure the June date mentioned third-hand by the lady at ARG is completely arbitrary and means absolutely nothing.[/quote7aad2a9d17]

Third-hand? What are you talking about? She is the person IN CHARGE of the shipping, she is the one who is sending people the checks (and has sent manofice and a few others who called in what they were owed).. how much more direct do you want?

oleus

29-05-2009 10:34:52

[quoteac1cba884d="bruman"][quoteac1cba884d="oleus"]same old song and dance.

i'm 99% sure the June date mentioned third-hand by the lady at ARG is completely arbitrary and means absolutely nothing.[/quoteac1cba884d]

Third-hand? What are you talking about? She is the person IN CHARGE of the shipping, she is the one who is sending people the checks (and has sent manofice and a few others who called in what they were owed).. how much more direct do you want?[/quoteac1cba884d]

well i can't get her on the phone to send me my money, so i will change that to second-hand. june is a few days away and we are getting the same nonsense from ARG. i hope i am wrong but i don't even have a shred of hope that i'll see anything in June after all that's happened.

Eeyore

29-05-2009 11:32:08

[quote27028dde38="ohboyitsryan"]whats stopping you from sending the demand letter now? you've been on the hook for, im assuming, 20+ months. that demand letter should have been sent in 2008...the sooner the better.[/quote27028dde38]I'm CTS May 08 and Nov 08. I am also giving them one last chance given the information posted here by the more sane members and the email ARG sent out April 29. I intend to follow normal collection procedures rather than rant on and on while doing nothing as most here tend to do.

You can do what you like. I'll do it the right way.

krisel13

29-05-2009 12:13:36

I know I don't post here much, I am more of a lurker. But, I have decided to file formal complaints. Could someone please pm me a copy of the original terms of condition and the Mpell certs? I know I should have saves these things, but was not experienced with all this when I started. If someone would be nice enough to help me I would really appreciate it.

Thank you

Zags1199

29-05-2009 12:56:28

[quotec19fdba6d3="bruman"][quotec19fdba6d3="oleus"]same old song and dance.

i'm 99% sure the June date mentioned third-hand by the lady at ARG is completely arbitrary and means absolutely nothing.[/quotec19fdba6d3]

Third-hand? What are you talking about? She is the person IN CHARGE of the shipping, she is the one who is sending people the checks (and has sent [bc19fdba6d3]manofice and a few others who called in[/bc19fdba6d3] what they were owed).. how much more direct do you want?[/quotec19fdba6d3]

Wait, so did manOFice call in, or are the two groups separate?

manOFice

29-05-2009 13:00:23

[quotee3f14cb318="Zags1199"][quotee3f14cb318="bruman"][quotee3f14cb318="oleus"]same old song and dance.

i'm 99% sure the June date mentioned third-hand by the lady at ARG is completely arbitrary and means absolutely nothing.[/quotee3f14cb318]

Third-hand? What are you talking about? She is the person IN CHARGE of the shipping, she is the one who is sending people the checks (and has sent [be3f14cb318]manofice and a few others who called in[/be3f14cb318] what they were owed).. how much more direct do you want?[/quotee3f14cb318]

Wait, so did manOFice call in, or are the two groups separate?[/quotee3f14cb318]

I only talked to someone when I had a minor glitch with something thats all. Other than that, everything was done through email

dougp70

29-05-2009 13:19:48

The response from my previous post

Reference number LTK143016361268X Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
Subject Gift tracking
Dear Dougp70,

Thank you for contacting us.

I have forwarded your email to management.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
USASurveyGroup Member Support

oleus

29-05-2009 13:36:23

they have forwarded two of my concerns to management. it hasn't sped up anything.

i'm really starting to wonder if they even have the capability of paying any of us.

ploppsdman

29-05-2009 14:04:04

For anyone putting together lawsuits, please list the steps (for example, does the suit have to be filed in NY or can it be filed in the state of residence--it's been mentioned before, but perhaps different states have different rules). Perhaps list those steps in the lawsuit thread so they don't get lost, or start a new thread enumerating the procedure.

For example
Illinois
Step 1.
Step 2.
........

Concurrent with lawsuits, a letter to the NY Attorney General is in order. The link for that has been lost in this thread, so, again, perhaps starting a new thread for this new chapter of our ARG experience is in order.

oleus

29-05-2009 15:05:59

i have some time off next week, i'm going to start pursuing filing a small claims case in Georgia as well as sending a registered complaint to the NY AG office. i'm waiting on too much money to just let it go.

bruman

29-05-2009 15:46:38

Woz replied to my PM. It wasn't him.
I'll e-mail Priyanka on Monday-- because then it'll be June, asking for an update.

kinneylamb

29-05-2009 15:55:13

i would write off that freebiescoop blog completely. sounds like a woz imposter, who's also read this board.

fanofpurple

29-05-2009 17:52:13

[quote6023846015="oleus"]they have forwarded two of my concerns to management. it hasn't sped up anything.

i'm really starting to wonder if they even have the capability of paying any of us.[/quote6023846015]

I wonder the same thing. If they really were mailing checks out weekly, you would think someone from here would have had a check - or someone they introduced to ARG would have had something by now - this is a bunch of garbage - who knows if we will ever see a dime.

wozniack

29-05-2009 18:37:04

[quote9a0b3c1e28="bruman"]Woz replied to my PM. It wasn't him.
I'll e-mail Priyanka on Monday-- because then it'll be June, asking for an update.[/quote9a0b3c1e28]
Yeah, it wasn't me guys, lol... The comment surprised me, and I am now curious about who wrote it? Anyway, I will inform others in my blog this week, so no one assumes it's me.

Thanks, bruman, for PMing me otherwise I wouldn't have known! I know of freebiescoop.com, but wasn't planning on revisiting anytime soon. )

Zags1199

29-05-2009 19:44:12

Thanks for clearing it up, wozniack. It makes me a little more confident about the June date now.

ploppsdman

29-05-2009 20:50:38

[quotecffcd5592f="Zags1199"]Thanks for clearing it up, wozniack. It makes me a little more confident about the June date now.[/quotecffcd5592f]

And if they give us another date, its time to put the hammer down.

If its after June, its high noon for ARG.

kinneylamb

31-05-2009 05:46:28

ugh, monday.. here it comes

slambam

31-05-2009 10:57:12

yea, then we get to hear... "the bulk of shipments will go out in july"

mistertomlinson

31-05-2009 16:41:00

[quote225d13489d="slambam"]yea, then we get to hear... "the bulk of shipments will go out in july"[/quote225d13489d]

... of 2010 (sad face)

oleus

01-06-2009 09:14:21

JUNE IS HERE. that means within the next 30 days we'll all see our money right?

ghounds07

01-06-2009 09:17:40

no

PS600REVX

01-06-2009 09:25:18

Gman14 never did explain what he meant about receiving his check soon did he? Come on man, clear it up!

ohboyitsryan

01-06-2009 09:50:22

...he was trying to start drama on the forums. homie didnt come up...

oleus

01-06-2009 09:52:04

he may have just received the "we are forwarding your concerns to management to speed up your delivery" crap that I've gotten from them twice. i just didn't post it in here because i knew it would get people's hopes up..it never got my hopes elevated, i'd be shocked if any email was ever forwaded at all.

bayarea05

01-06-2009 11:43:19

so within 30 days we getting our checks? lol....ya right

Crys2101

01-06-2009 12:53:41

Within 30 days I will take over as dictator of the United States. ARG better pay up or there will be hell to pay.

ohboyitsryan

01-06-2009 14:11:12

speaking of hell, this thread went there 95 pages ago

livingloud28

02-06-2009 08:04:15

I love there response checks are going out each week I am like at this rate what are they mailing out one check a week seriously that is a bunch of bologna . This will be a ten year process and donot forget about the other confirmed to ship gifts after the mpell cetificates went out

livingloud28

02-06-2009 08:10:03

Latest response

Thank you for contacting us.

I understand your frustration. I don't have any further information.
- Hide quoted text -

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Suppor

oleus

02-06-2009 09:28:29

yeah, no new information because they're not going to pay us.

Eeyore

02-06-2009 09:59:29

If you believe that how come you continue coming here to check this thread and post the same thing every time? Move on.

Crys2101

02-06-2009 10:37:29

I got the same craptastic response of "they are sending out the checks each week". I asked them not to tell me there were shipping delays.

oleus

02-06-2009 10:39:13

Mostly to see if anyone has heard anything . I can hope we get paid but think that it's not going to happen. We're all in the same boat right ?

RolltheStampede

02-06-2009 10:43:09

"This aint Sea World this as real as it gets im on a boat Mutha F"ker dont you ever forget"

ohboyitsryan

02-06-2009 10:48:16

Today I checked my status on Brandarama.com. It said that I am confirmed, to be shipped. I logged off. MLIA.

oleus

02-06-2009 11:37:32

[quote69ea3fb55f="ohboyitsryan"]Today I checked my status on Brandarama.com. It said that I am confirmed, to be shipped. I logged off. MLIA.[/quote69ea3fb55f]

the first time i read that my mind blocked out the "confirmed to be" part and i got excited. can i add a therapy bill to my small claims case?

-oleus

ploppsdman

02-06-2009 12:42:16

Mine says "confirmed to be not shipped."

cronerd

02-06-2009 13:32:15

[quote59e9750b0b="ploppsdman"]Mine says "confirmed to be not shipped."[/quote59e9750b0b]
finally something funny , that was good P

ohboyitsryan

02-06-2009 13:32:47

talked to brad powers on the phone today. he said that checks started shipping and asked me to email him my account info to send me an update on my personal account. he sounded very rushed and talked as if he didn't want to be on the phone. not sure if I believe him, but I will email him for the hell of it. we can't even take the CEO's words as gospel...

manOFice

02-06-2009 13:47:22

[quotea7ad58ed8b="ohboyitsryan"]talked to brad powers on the phone today. he said that checks started shipping and asked me to email him my account info to send me an update on my personal account. he sounded very rushed and talked as if he didn't want to be on the phone. not sure if I believe him, but I will email him for the hell of it. we can't even take the CEO's words as gospel...[/quotea7ad58ed8b]

I would just pass your info on and i'm sure he'll help you ;)

bradjohnson08

02-06-2009 13:54:06

.... for some reason, i feel like i am missing something here.... ? lol

mistertomlinson

02-06-2009 13:59:13

[quoteacd4ef5869="bradjohnson08"].... for some reason, i feel like i am missing something here.... ? lol[/quoteacd4ef5869]

Me too.

ghounds07

02-06-2009 15:27:45

[quote5e79e10b7f="ohboyitsryan"]talked to brad powers on the phone today. he said that checks started shipping and asked me to email him my account info to send me an update on my personal account. he sounded very rushed and talked as if he didn't want to be on the phone. not sure if I believe him, but I will email him for the hell of it. we can't even take the CEO's words as gospel...[/quote5e79e10b7f]

How did you get a hold of him? Well done.

Admin

02-06-2009 16:01:31

[quote242dc44707="prizejunkie"]still need a copy of the mpell form, anybody? Small clains is easy, every state has a website where you can download the forms. It costs me less than 20 bucks in NJ, and they have to apear in your state. If they do not apear they will utomaticly lose. As long as you have the old TOS, a copy of the MPEL forms, and whatever customer service emails you have ( have tons), you cant lose![/quote242dc44707]
I had a frauder file a small claims case against me in the county adjacent to the one specified in the forum clause of the Terms of Service. I got the case thrown out by writing a letter to the court. Don't be too sure -- choice of venue clauses have historically been enforceable (with some notable exceptions)

ohboyitsryan

02-06-2009 17:27:37

[quote5e436ce415="ghounds07"][quote5e436ce415="ohboyitsryan"]talked to brad powers on the phone today. he said that checks started shipping and asked me to email him my account info to send me an update on my personal account. he sounded very rushed and talked as if he didn't want to be on the phone. not sure if I believe him, but I will email him for the hell of it. we can't even take the CEO's words as gospel...[/quote5e436ce415]

How did you get a hold of him? Well done.[/quote5e436ce415]

telephonic directory...been trying for a week and a half. priyanka and gabrielle haven't answered though in like 2 weeks or trying

Zags1199

02-06-2009 18:44:39

Well, let us know if he e-mails you back.

kinneylamb

02-06-2009 20:15:48

priyanka and gabrielle are probably out shopping, or doing body shots

fbskiracer

02-06-2009 21:40:22

What is the ARG corporate information again (address/phone/ect).

I figured I would step it up and file a Federal Trade Commission complain since the BBB doesn't seem to do much and the FTC (I think) helps to handle bait and switch schemes.

Please PM it to me so I don't have to hunt through this thread. Yes I'm lazy and busy but I was hoping to use this money to fund my interviews for residency as I finish up medical school this year so I'm quite busy with my 80 hour unpaid work weeks now.

ploppsdman

03-06-2009 01:40:03

If that's the case, please also post the information here.

ploppsdman

03-06-2009 01:45:22

We also need Cousin Vinny's number

"ARG must ship checks because they don't have posatraction."

"Are you sure, Miss Vito?"

"Absolutely."

chewy

03-06-2009 12:47:12

[quote494405b3f1="ohboyitsryan"]talked to brad powers on the phone today. he said that checks started shipping and asked me to email him my account info to send me an update on my personal account. he sounded very rushed and talked as if he didn't want to be on the phone. not sure if I believe him, but I will email him for the hell of it. we can't even take the CEO's words as gospel...[/quote494405b3f1]


i'd like his phone number too. even if it does no good...

RolltheStampede

03-06-2009 13:27:13

if you really want it dig for it like ohboy did. no need for all of us to bombard someone that wont get us paid any sooner

ploppsdman

03-06-2009 15:32:51

[quote3d28470916="RolltheStampede"]if you really want it dig for it like ohboy did. no need for all of us to bombard someone that wont get us paid any sooner[/quote3d28470916]

I'm super cool with all of us calling the guy who owns the company that isn't paying us.

tp24

03-06-2009 16:40:59

Is the number toll free? I want to make sure I won't spend any more than a dime on this.

RolltheStampede

03-06-2009 16:44:53

"you have a collect call from, "where's my money bitch" will you accept the charges?"

ploppsdman

03-06-2009 17:30:38

I don't know if it's toll free, but I hear there's this site where if you do 4 free trial offers you can get a $500 calling card in 6-8 weeks.

PS600REVX

04-06-2009 06:17:58

did you guys see the latest post here?

http//www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552220

I am doing the NYAG thing sometime this weekend. I encourage you all to do so. The AG in NY is always going after people that I am reading about being in NY myself. I always tried to stay positive through this situation but it has gone from bad to ridiculous.

mistertomlinson

04-06-2009 07:58:02

[quote5f26b79580="RolltheStampede"]"you have a collect call from, "where's my money bitch" will you accept the charges?"[/quote5f26b79580]

Buahahahahaha!

kdt511

04-06-2009 11:13:16

[quote7b54ee8347="ploppsdman"]I don't know if it's toll free, but I hear there's this site where if you do 4 free trial offers you can get a $500 calling card in 6-8 weeks.[/quote7b54ee8347]

rofl

ploppsdman

04-06-2009 11:35:55

So now there's at least 3 steps to carry out soon

1. FTC complaint (assuming its applicable)
2. NY Attorney General complaint
3. Small claims court

slambam

04-06-2009 11:50:13

I had my NY AG form typed and ready to go, I was just waiting for one response. If I don't get it by the end of the day, it's going in the mail. Is this the right form to use? Hopefully, so I don't have to fill out another one.

http//www.oag.state.ny.us/resource_center/complaints/pdfs/cns001web_consumer.pdf

kinneylamb

04-06-2009 12:48:37

[quotec34f18fb01="PS600REVX"]did you guys see the latest post here?

http//www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552220

I am doing the NYAG thing sometime this weekend. I encourage you all to do so. The AG in NY is always going after people that I am reading about being in NY myself. I always tried to stay positive through this situation but it has gone from bad to ridiculous.[/quotec34f18fb01]
eh its nothing we havent read before. the june 4 posts, for now its just the one guy who needed to get paid, followed by arg's response, followed by two people going like "yay arg pays us on time" blablabla. if like 10 more people started saying the same thing i'd take a second look at it.

ploppsdman

04-06-2009 13:21:51

[quote977ade5689="kinneylamb"][quote977ade5689="PS600REVX"]did you guys see the latest post here?

http//www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=552220

I am doing the NYAG thing sometime this weekend. I encourage you all to do so. The AG in NY is always going after people that I am reading about being in NY myself. I always tried to stay positive through this situation but it has gone from bad to ridiculous.[/quote977ade5689]
eh its nothing we havent read before. the june 4 posts, for now its just the one guy who needed to get paid, followed by arg's response, followed by two people going like "yay arg pays us on time" blablabla. if like 10 more people started saying the same thing i'd take a second look at it.[/quote977ade5689]

I know its not 100 people complaining, but it certainly isn't just two. And there's one post as recent as Mid-May, where they write "...has been stringing us along since March." Sound familiar? After I contact them specifically mentioning the FTC and NY AG complaints and asking for recompense before I do, than I'm going that route. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice ... well .. you never get fooled again!

PS600REVX

04-06-2009 13:23:36

[quote2f4c13e32b="slambam"]I had my NY AG form typed and ready to go, I was just waiting for one response. If I don't get it by the end of the day, it's going in the mail. Is this the right form to use? Hopefully, so I don't have to fill out another one.

http//www.oag.state.ny.us/resource_center/complaints/pdfs/cns001web_consumer.pdf[/quote2f4c13e32b]

Yep, I encourage everyone to fill this out and send it in. It's not very long and will take you 10 minutes and then just drop it in the mail. Why not?

mariners1999

04-06-2009 13:35:27

[quotefb2419568e="PS600REVX"][quotefb2419568e="slambam"]I had my NY AG form typed and ready to go, I was just waiting for one response. If I don't get it by the end of the day, it's going in the mail. Is this the right form to use? Hopefully, so I don't have to fill out another one.

http//www.oag.state.ny.us/resource_center/complaints/pdfs/cns001web_consumer.pdf[/quotefb2419568e]

Yep, I encourage everyone to fill this out and send it in. It's not very long and will take you 10 minutes and then just drop it in the mail. Why not?[/quotefb2419568e]


I filled this out over a month ago. I called and the NY attorney general is "working on it"...... Not much better than the BBB. I am still just waiting to get a little later in June to see if checks go out. Will really start to push in 2-3 weeks if I don't see anything.

beerman

04-06-2009 19:52:57

ARG lost this one on tuesday....

[bc82866a4e5]Plaintiff SKENZO [/bc82866a4e5]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 600782-2009 [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=600782-2009]600782-2009
Amount $28,714.21

RyanG

04-06-2009 20:15:46

[quote6baf5e22d8="beerman"]ARG lost this one on tuesday....

[b6baf5e22d8]Plaintiff SKENZO [/b6baf5e22d8]
Defendent ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC
Link to Case 600782-2009 [=http//iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=600782-2009]600782-2009
Amount $28,714.21[/quote6baf5e22d8]

Failure to pay invoices for May, June, July, August and September of last year? Say it ain't so...

orangejuice

04-06-2009 21:05:23

good, im glad to see they lost. now i wonder if they will pay the judgement against them? probably not!

zr2152

04-06-2009 21:16:59

[quote6f79ea48ba="orangejuice"]good, im glad to see they lost. now i wonder if they will pay the judgement against them? probably not![/quote6f79ea48ba]

No..I bet they send a cash back certificate to the plaintiff which will then expire in 30 days.

Better get it postmarked quickly!

bayarea05

05-06-2009 00:21:00

[quotea0b467fb24="orangejuice"]good, im glad to see they lost. now i wonder if they will pay the judgement against them? probably not![/quotea0b467fb24]

Are u really banned? ???

oleus

05-06-2009 10:54:02

more evidence that the possibility exists that the only way anyone will see money is if they sue them.

kinneylamb

05-06-2009 16:07:28

what happened to bruman and his check

tylerc

05-06-2009 16:23:49

It's June 5th...let's wait a little bit longer.

bruman

05-06-2009 17:19:41

[quote687fe2a110="kinneylamb"]what happened to bruman and his check[/quote687fe2a110]

The June date was just a generalized date I heard while asking about when checks, as a whole, will start shipping. It was nothing specific to me, I was just trying to find answers for everyone involved in this. Now that June is here though I'm going to start focusing on getting my own shipped.

Zags1199

05-06-2009 18:43:29

Did Priyanka respond to your e-mail?

bruman

05-06-2009 23:37:40

[quoted9f7603dc5="Zags1199"]Did Priyanka respond to your e-mail?[/quoted9f7603dc5]

Nope, she didn't. Ever since freebiescoop leaked her contact info she hasn't responded to me (and everyone else as far as I can tell).

DRay9911

06-06-2009 09:58:16

my life is ass?

-dan



[quote51bb6c8b46="ohboyitsryan"]Today I checked my status on Brandarama.com. It said that I am confirmed, to be shipped. I logged off. [b51bb6c8b46]MLIA[/b51bb6c8b46].[/quote51bb6c8b46]

ohboyitsryan

06-06-2009 10:05:51

[quoteed37b05948="DRay9911"]my life is ass?

-dan



[quoteed37b05948="ohboyitsryan"]Today I checked my status on Brandarama.com. It said that I am confirmed, to be shipped. I logged off. [bed37b05948]MLIA[/bed37b05948].[/quoteed37b05948][/quoteed37b05948]

www.mylifeisaverage.com

box86rowh

06-06-2009 10:33:32

Today I was on my computer and I clicked on one of those adds that says "click here and win a free cell phone." I clicked it and I didn't win a free cell phone. MLIA

DRay9911

06-06-2009 11:44:32

fml > mlia

/kobe > lebron'd

-dan

dougp70

06-06-2009 21:24:38

Today when I got the mail, there was another credit card bill for the prize I bought myself back in January. MLIA

mistertomlinson

07-06-2009 05:52:41

[quote4ce932fb1e="dougp70"]Today when I got the mail, there was another credit card bill for the prize I bought myself back in January. MLIA[/quote4ce932fb1e]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

rustvyper

07-06-2009 11:56:42

Gonna roll in the JAG office monday to get my small claims process started. I figure I better get a judgement before there's a class-action. Can't get blood from a stone.
Anyone ever filed in Georgia before?
PS. Brining my orginal TOS, screen-shots, MPell certs, receipts & credit card statements. Anyone got any other suggestions on other documentation?

Stkfree1

07-06-2009 15:10:30

Does anyone have links to the original TOS & a pdf format of the MPell certs?

kinneylamb

08-06-2009 00:56:56

maybe the user right above your post, who said they are bringing their original TOS, screenshots, mpell certs and receipts to the JAG office. maybe they'd know where to get them from. idk about pdf format, you might have to convert it yourself at staples or something

krisel13

08-06-2009 04:47:01

I asked the same question a while ago and got no response. I also plan on filing. Could someone please please pm me a copy of the original TOC and MPELL certs?

hawke12

08-06-2009 05:40:14

Always keep copies of Important documents for your own records. Especially when MONEY is concerned.

Protect your @ss ;)

A Photo copy of someone else's certificates, that have They're name on them, won't do YOU much good....And if you photoshop it, and get caught kiss any possible judgement goodbye.....

However, Your actual account info, and possbily screen shots might be all you need.

Just my 2 cents ;)

krisel13

08-06-2009 05:50:27

Thanks for the help shock I realize that, I have the letter sent by MPELL, I really need the TOC though, that would help alot. Some of us were inexperienced with this when it started, and I for one didn't think they were going to change the TOC. We are all in the same boat with this. I don't know why people feel the need to be nasty to those of us who overlooked printing teir terms out 2 years ago. I would certainly help anyone else out if I could. So, I will ask again, if anyone has the original terms, could you please help me by pm'ing them to me?

Thank you

hawke12

08-06-2009 08:10:24

[quote86cef91afa="krisel13"]Thanks for the help shock I realize that, I have the letter sent by MPELL, I really need the TOC though, that would help alot. Some of us were inexperienced with this when it started, and I for one didn't think they were going to change the TOC. We are all in the same boat with this. I don't know why people feel the need to be nasty to those of us who overlooked printing teir terms out 2 years ago. I would certainly help anyone else out if I could. So, I will ask again, if anyone has the original terms, could you please help me by pm'ing them to me?

Thank you[/quote86cef91afa]

My comment wasn't intended to be "Nasty" I was just trying to make a friendly reminder to those that didn't keep copies of certain paperwork, to do so in the future, just for situations like this. )

kinneylamb

08-06-2009 08:27:13

[quote87c1d9a4c8="hawke12"]Always keep copies of Important documents for your own records. Especially when MONEY is concerned.

Protect your @ss ;)

A Photo copy of someone else's certificates, that have They're name on them, won't do YOU much good....And if you photoshop it, and get caught kiss any possible judgement goodbye.....

However, Your actual account info, and possbily screen shots might be all you need.

Just my 2 cents ;)[/quote87c1d9a4c8]

yea i tried to say the same thing a while back and i got branded as being mean when i was trying to be helpful.

i think no one's responding b/c the ppl who do have copies to send you haven't read these posts, or something like that.

re the copies of the MPELL certificates -- i dont think your full name ie personal certificate is necessary, just a general example of what mpell sent out. mpell is the kind of company, i'm sure they'd be willing to provide correspondence backing up they sent out certificates and sent one to your name. in the mean time someone could block out their name etc. and copy it like that so it's a generalized certificate.

re TOC copies (terms and conditions?), all the brandarama stuff is electronically stored on someone's website, and those links are found somewhere in this very forum thread. i just dont know how to use the search feature.

i wanna get paid!!!

bennyboy5768

08-06-2009 10:03:40

[quote3661169c74="Stkfree1"]Does anyone have links to the original TOS & a pdf format of the MPell certs?[/quote3661169c74]

I posted links to the ToS like three times already. The search function is your friend. D

krisel13

08-06-2009 10:35:23

Thank you, I checked all of those links you posted, but unfortunately, none of them worked, anyone have another link?

zr2152

08-06-2009 11:48:26

[quote87faf16f0a="krisel13"]Thank you, I checked all of those links you posted, but unfortunately, none of them worked, anyone have another link?[/quote87faf16f0a]

Someone should just upolad them to their website or something...if someone wants to send the files to me I'll do it when I find some time.

bennyboy5768

08-06-2009 13:28:10

[quote1addc1fcab="zr2152"][quote1addc1fcab="krisel13"]Thank you, I checked all of those links you posted, but unfortunately, none of them worked, anyone have another link?[/quote1addc1fcab]

Someone should just upolad them to their website or something...if someone wants to send the files to me I'll do it when I find some time.[/quote1addc1fcab]

They are on my website, and they appear to be working. Try these

www.funkytiger.com/brandarama/Brandarama%20Digital%20Millenium%20Copyright%20Notice.png

www.funkytiger.com/brandarama/Brandarama%20Gift%20Offer%20Rules%20for%20the.png

www.funkytiger.com/brandarama/Brandarama%20Privacy%20Policy.png

www.funkytiger.com/brandarama/Brandaramacom%20Terms%20%26%20Conditions.png

mariners1999

08-06-2009 13:45:05

Just curious on what everyone is thinking of doing?

I have decided to wait until the last week of June to give them one last opportunity to get us checks out since I heard someone last month got a hold of higher management and June was mentioned.

I have already filed with BBB for both CA (Mpell) and NY (ARG) and the NY attorney general but have gotten no response other than the CA BBB telling me that Mpell is not at fault.

I guess the next step is a small claims court suit?

Any other ideas?

Admin

08-06-2009 21:48:18

You know, those NY AG forms don't just land on the AG's desk. They get forwarded to the local DA who will forward it to ARG.

The NY AG is indeed consumer friendly but with such a populous state they have to focus their resources on big damage by big companies and while ARG's outstanding payments may be significant in total it's pretty unlikely that a significant number of people have filed those claims.

So I guess what I'm saying is, don't expect anything better than the BBB's performance out of the AG because they do pretty much the same thing in my experience.

note i haven't done a DIY site in 5 years and this is just my opinion

oleus

09-06-2009 04:38:26

i think if anything was going to happen in june, the email CSR's would have at least some information on it.

kinneylamb

09-06-2009 06:41:51

[quote7f0f07d527="Admin"]You know, those NY AG forms don't just land on the AG's desk. They get forwarded to the local DA who will forward it to ARG.

The NY AG is indeed consumer friendly but with such a populous state they have to focus their resources on big damage by big companies and while ARG's outstanding payments may be significant in total it's pretty unlikely that a significant number of people have filed those claims.

So I guess what I'm saying is, don't expect anything better than the BBB's performance out of the AG because they do pretty much the same thing in my experience.

note i haven't done a DIY site in 5 years and this is just my opinion[/quote7f0f07d527]

you couldn't be more wrong about the AG. its the legality of it, not the $ amount. they exist to protect US citizens and there's no minimum amount required to file a complaint. some situations money is not even involved. also its not just consumer friendly, its citizen protecting. they have the power of the law and will exercise it. does it mean you will get your money, depends on what brandarama does. like what eeyore and some other people said, it might get a lawsuit against brandarama and force them to close with nobody getting paid, the benefit they cannot string along and fraud anymore citizens / customers.

[quote7f0f07d527="oleus"]i think if anything was going to happen in june, the email CSR's would have at least some information on it.[/quote7f0f07d527]
since they dont know anything, it could go either way. they've never done this program before so it depends on if management wants to give them an updated msg or not, or to just leave it as is and mail the checks.

oleus i dont think your owed any money correct, so can you stop getting people wound up with your sometimes stupid posts

oleus

09-06-2009 08:14:30

i am owed a significant sum of money. not sure what gave you the impression otherwise....but thanks for calling my posts stupid, that's fantastic.

i was thinking - the last time we had any sort of movement in this "situation" was when we started pressuring Mpell and they (apparently) went ballistic on ARG to get them out of the mess (legal action?). Maybe the key is still to try and pressure Mpell with updated BBB and AG reports, even if they're just going to be dismissed. Mpell will at least have to start repsonding again, and the ball might move again every so slowly. i know i'm grasping at straws here, but ARG doesn't even respond to anything other than generic low-level CSR repsonses so maybe Mpell needs to hear from us again. the fact has not changed that Mpell sent us certificates REQUIRING us to spend our own money to get our reimbursements and we haven't seen anything.

Eeyore

09-06-2009 10:22:44

Anyone considering filing suit or following that line of attack should start researching the process now if they haven't already, determining the requirements for a successful outcome, and be collecting the evidence needed to file. It would also be a good time to send a demand letter which is the step you need to take before filing and provides further evidence that the defendant (ARG) has defaulted on this agreement. Considering the scenario, this has a lot in common with a collections process especially considering the out-of-pocket "rebate" aspect.

There are lots of resources available online. My favorite site for these sorts of things is http//www.nolo.com/.

slambam

09-06-2009 10:40:10

What are people thoughts about going to the California AG for mpell? The mpell forms are all they need, and mpell hasn't followed through like they said. I'm not sure how well it would work, but it's worth a shot.

oleus

09-06-2009 10:42:09

[quote4a78c14398="slambam"]What are people thoughts about going to the California AG for mpell? The mpell forms are all they need, and mpell hasn't followed through like they said. I'm not sure how well it would work, but it's worth a shot.[/quote4a78c14398]

can't hurt. i still can't believe how easy it was for Mpell to wiggle its way out of any recourse on this one.

slambam

09-06-2009 10:46:07

I agree. They sent and sign our forms, so they're not innocent here. I think I will get all my stuff for the California AG together and get it sent out ASAP.

ohboyitsryan

09-06-2009 10:47:08

I wonder what the ratio is in this forum of people who merely talk about pursuing action and people who are actually on some serious shit...

slambam

09-06-2009 10:50:58

I'm just going to the state AG's for now. I'm not going to court yet. I just checked the California AG complaint site, and it's just an electronic complaint. Takes just a few minutes to fill out. I will complete it tonight after work.

kinneylamb

09-06-2009 12:06:08

oh ok oleus. i thought you werent owed money for some reason.

the thing is, mpell has no money to give us. so what good is reporting them and how is that gonna help us.

bruman

09-06-2009 12:18:13

[quote2e8da4ce7b="oleus"]i think if anything was going to happen in june, the email CSR's would have at least some information on it.[/quote2e8da4ce7b]

I think they're hesitant to give out specific dates because not everyone is going to go shipped at the same time. It's going to be much more fluctuating than that. CSR are saying they are "almost finished with the audits", which implies that they are nearing the end. I think we'll see some shipments go out in the next few weeks (before the end of June), to what extent I'm not sure. Sorry, can't say any more about it. Also, it's only my opinion but I would recommend against filing AG complaints. I know you guys don't like to hear that because you feel the need to do something during this wait, but I'm pretty sure if we just relax and wait it out we'll all get our money. Like I said it's just my opinion- I can't predict the future, so if you know something goes terribly wrong but based on what I've observed and researched that's what I think.

orangejuice

09-06-2009 13:07:30

Screw that optimistic shit, just file the complaints people. that will get things moving swiftly.

kinneylamb

09-06-2009 13:17:37

i'd hold off on filing AG complaints as it could make our situation worse, as they actually do have power. if the AG sues ARG, we're screwed and wont get our gifts

instead i'd file a small claims suit and win

slambam

09-06-2009 16:18:08

[quote5b415c52db="kinneylamb"]the thing is, mpell has no money to give us. so what good is reporting them and how is that gonna help us.[/quote5b415c52db]

How not? As you said, the AG has power. They see the rebate forms, what are they going to think? The rebate forms came from mpell, you think the Attorney fucking General will accept "Well ARG backed out on us" as an answer? Unless he's a total idiot he'd tell them to get there shit straight, know who there dealing with, and honor the form that THEY sent. And, what exactly can it hurt? Maybe it'll at least have mpell make (sue) ARG move quicker. The sooner we get paid, the sooner mpell doesn't have to worry about this stuff.

bruman

09-06-2009 16:41:06

[quote978f9c3f5f="orangejuice"]Screw that optimistic shit, just file the complaints people. that will get things moving swiftly.[/quote978f9c3f5f]

You're not even apart of everyone who is owed reimbursements so what say do you have in this? Your only hope is some kind of lawsuit.

orangejuice

09-06-2009 18:13:51

hope? i have other ways of dealing with it lol. and yes i am "part" of the people owed reimbursements. after all, i sent in my forms and shit

bruman

09-06-2009 20:26:39

[quotef7ec5d917b="orangejuice"]hope? i have other ways of dealing with it lol. and yes i am "part" of the people owed reimbursements. after all, i sent in my forms and shit[/quotef7ec5d917b]

You got DQ'd, you're not on the list to get paid. How else do you plan on pursuing getting your money besides some other second-party intervention? Your situation is COMPLETELY different than 95% of everyone here because we are still pending payment.

kinneylamb

09-06-2009 23:52:47

[quoteb5c070ada0="slambam"][quoteb5c070ada0="kinneylamb"]the thing is, mpell has no money to give us. so what good is reporting them and how is that gonna help us.[/quoteb5c070ada0]

How not? As you said, the AG has power. They see the rebate forms, what are they going to think? The rebate forms came from mpell, you think the Attorney fucking General will accept "Well ARG backed out on us" as an answer? Unless he's a total idiot he'd tell them to get there shit straight, know who there dealing with, and honor the form that THEY sent. And, what exactly can it hurt? Maybe it'll at least have mpell make (sue) ARG move quicker. The sooner we get paid, the sooner mpell doesn't have to worry about this stuff.[/quoteb5c070ada0]
thats true. this whole thing is such a mess. i'm still fearful of the AG suing ARG and us not getting our gifts.

mistertomlinson

10-06-2009 06:17:43

I wouldn't be surprised if they sued us for something. ?

FreeOffersNow

10-06-2009 06:44:30

Class action or AG lawsuit may end up in us getting pennies on the dollar, where we may have gotten 100%

ghounds07

10-06-2009 09:20:36

more speculation, just what this thread needs wooo

slambam

10-06-2009 09:54:23

[quotea5fd1660c2="ghounds07"]more speculation, just what this thread needs wooo[/quotea5fd1660c2]

And this thread really needs posts like this too right? roll If it annoys you so much why do you look at it, let alone make a post?

ghounds07

10-06-2009 10:27:37

well actually I was just pointing out how everyone here is speculating, and by making a post regarding how we [b0eb60bcf40]might[/b0eb60bcf40] get pennies on the dollar will be bad since we [b0eb60bcf40]may[/b0eb60bcf40] get paid 100% makes no sense at all.

So my post has a little more substance than yours, and I never said it annoyed me, I just thought it was a weird statement. But yes, taking 2 minutes to check this thread and maybe post is just an insane waste of my time.

Crizo

10-06-2009 11:33:48

[quoteba8f38df24="mistertomlinson"]I wouldn't be surprised if they sued us for something. ?[/quoteba8f38df24]

Sue who? Sue me?

Sue everybody!

bruman

10-06-2009 11:46:24

I got ahold of Priyanka again. Sounds like the June date is still going to stand. Give it these last couple weeks.

PS600REVX

10-06-2009 12:01:53

[quote44598958e3="bruman"]I got ahold of Priyanka again. Sounds like the June date is still going to stand. Give it these last couple weeks.[/quote44598958e3]

I hope you are right!! just out of curiosity, what kind of "vibe" do you get from her? Is she rushing you off the phone and giving some BS line or does she seem sincere? Obviously, this would just be your opinion but I'm interested to know. Thanks.

FreeOffersNow

10-06-2009 12:02:45

[quote4f241db245="ghounds07"]well actually I was just pointing out how everyone here is speculating, and by making a post regarding how we [b4f241db245]might[/b4f241db245] get pennies on the dollar will be bad since we [b4f241db245]may[/b4f241db245] get paid 100% makes no sense at all.

So my post has a little more substance than yours, and I never said it annoyed me, I just thought it was a weird statement. But yes, taking 2 minutes to check this thread and maybe post is just an insane waste of my time.[/quote4f241db245]

To be completely honest, I purposely softened the tone of my post in an attempt to avert any negative reactions....how stupid of me to believe that I could slip such speculation past the genius that is ghounds07. The truth is, a class action suit will [b4f241db245]MOST LIKELY[/b4f241db245] (as opposed to may, as stated previously) result in us getting pennies on the dollar. There is a wealth of empirical all over the web.

For example...

[quote4f241db245]The Securities Law Firm of Klayman & Toskes Urges Investors...to Explore All of Their Legal Options...K&T reminds investors of the benefits of filing an individual arbitration claim. [b4f241db245]By participating in a class action lawsuit, an investor will most likely recover only pennies on the dollar.[/b4f241db245] However, [b4f241db245]if one has experienced significant investment losses, they may want to consider filing an individual securities arbitration claim[/b4f241db245]. In 2003, K&T conducted an eminent study of securities arbitration versus class action. The study concluded that investors who file a securities arbitration claim traditionally obtain an overall higher rate of recovery, when compared to the recovery obtained in a class action lawsuit. To view the full results of the comparison, please visit our web-site http//www.nasd-law.com/documents/classvr.pdf - [i4f241db245]2009, http//www.nasd-law.com[/i4f241db245][/quote4f241db245]

I apologize for quoting a securities firm and the findings of their study on investor claims, but believe it or not, empirical research on the freebie industry isn't exacly abundant.

mariners1999

10-06-2009 12:58:48

[quote5a526caca2="bruman"]I got ahold of Priyanka again. Sounds like the June date is still going to stand. Give it these last couple weeks.[/quote5a526caca2]

)

I agree with bruman. I just think if we can chill for a few more weeks to see if this all sorts itself out it could benefit us in the long run.

Now if by the end of June if we are still all just sitting here with no money from ARG I think we have been more then patient and lawsuits and such are the next option.

Again as alwasy JMHO-BWTHDIK (just my honest opinion - but what the hell do I know)

RolltheStampede

10-06-2009 13:02:23

http//www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/25/foamparty_wideweb__430x298.jpg[" alt=""/img8943c4b857]

relax guys come on foam party.

ploppsdman

10-06-2009 13:38:04

300 bucks roundtrip to Barcelona just the other day and right now there's a 235 roundtrip to HI from Los Angeles. If I didnt have bills to pay that I thought were going to be paid with this money, I'd have possibly gone to both places ....

orangejuice

10-06-2009 15:29:14

300 bucks? I just spent 2 grand on first class tickets to LAX and back

ghounds07

10-06-2009 15:30:55

[quotec6e091e178="FreeOffersNow"][quotec6e091e178="ghounds07"]well actually I was just pointing out how everyone here is speculating, and by making a post regarding how we [bc6e091e178]might[/bc6e091e178] get pennies on the dollar will be bad since we [bc6e091e178]may[/bc6e091e178] get paid 100% makes no sense at all.

So my post has a little more substance than yours, and I never said it annoyed me, I just thought it was a weird statement. But yes, taking 2 minutes to check this thread and maybe post is just an insane waste of my time.[/quotec6e091e178]

To be completely honest, I purposely softened the tone of my post in an attempt to avert any negative reactions....how stupid of me to believe that I could slip such speculation past the genius that is ghounds07. The truth is, a class action suit will [bc6e091e178]MOST LIKELY[/bc6e091e178] (as opposed to may, as stated previously) result in us getting pennies on the dollar. There is a wealth of empirical all over the web.

For example...

[quotec6e091e178]The Securities Law Firm of Klayman & Toskes Urges Investors...to Explore All of Their Legal Options...K&T reminds investors of the benefits of filing an individual arbitration claim. [bc6e091e178]By participating in a class action lawsuit, an investor will most likely recover only pennies on the dollar.[/bc6e091e178] However, [bc6e091e178]if one has experienced significant investment losses, they may want to consider filing an individual securities arbitration claim[/bc6e091e178]. In 2003, K&T conducted an eminent study of securities arbitration versus class action. The study concluded that investors who file a securities arbitration claim traditionally obtain an overall higher rate of recovery, when compared to the recovery obtained in a class action lawsuit. To view the full results of the comparison, please visit our web-site http//www.nasd-law.com/documents/classvr.pdf - [ic6e091e178]2009, http//www.nasd-law.com[/ic6e091e178][/quotec6e091e178]

I apologize for quoting a securities firm and the findings of their study on investor claims, but believe it or not, empirical research on the freebie industry isn't exacly abundant.[/quotec6e091e178]

I wasn't saying what happens in a class action law suit, especially with ARG I doubt we would get anything significant. What I was saying was how none of us have any idea what is going to happen, so who cares. We may get paid pennies on the dollar in a class action lawsuit, we might get paid by ARG this June, we may not receive anything, we may may may may may may mayyyyyyyy

ghounds07

10-06-2009 15:32:00

[quoteceb2cc8998="orangejuice"]300 bucks? I just spent 2 grand on first class tickets to LAX and back[/quoteceb2cc8998]

That's a $1700 savings, and to a different country, quite amazing, I agree.

mariners1999

10-06-2009 15:35:10

[quote5e53f1e837="orangejuice"]300 bucks? I just spent 2 grand on first class tickets to LAX and back[/quote5e53f1e837]


lol. Are you bragging?

Never understood 1st class. No matter how much money I make I just can't see ever paying for 1st class. Maybe I am just too cheap....

lol

kinneylamb

10-06-2009 16:39:08

we should sue each other. you know, just to pass the time.

can the people arguing about their posts not being important and quoting ridiculous law thingies go book an appointment with their therapist?

oj scammed brandarama out of thousands, i dont think he bought 2 grand first class tickets to LAX. he's one of those white kids with an 11 inch penis, so he says.

can bruman come back and comment on the vibe he got from priyanka? i figure she prob sounds nice b/c she's got nothing to do, being the person in charge of fulfillment of gifts, har de har har

rts i dont want to foam-party next to you.

beerman

10-06-2009 17:34:39

[quoteb30ee921eb="mariners1999"][quoteb30ee921eb="orangejuice"]300 bucks? I just spent 2 grand on first class tickets to LAX and back[/quoteb30ee921eb]


lol. Are you bragging?

Never understood 1st class. No matter how much money I make I just can't see ever paying for 1st class. Maybe I am just too cheap....

lol[/quoteb30ee921eb]

First class rocks, I fly it free every time I fly Delta for work because I am a Silver Medallion member...I've been blitzed by the time I get to my desination ) Its great working for the feds )

FreeOffersNow

10-06-2009 17:54:37

[quote2ae9afaf61="kinneylamb"]we should sue each other. you know, just to pass the time.

can the people arguing about their posts not being important and quoting ridiculous law thingies go book an appointment with their therapist?[/quote2ae9afaf61]


no.

kinneylamb

10-06-2009 18:18:37

no? thats it i'm suing you

bruman

10-06-2009 19:00:10

Well I don't want to get into to much of the details as to what was talked about without her permission of what she wants to be made public -- I figure if the company wants its customers to know something they have every means to do that. That being said the last correspondence I had with her though she was more than helpful and sincere and answered all my questions. I actually got some pretty solid information so they seem to have a plan to move this forward. I don't think the people associated with the company are as evil as we project them out to be.. they seem to be decent people.. all college educated, professional and want to help people and get things shipped but of course, being a company, they have to follow certain procedures and look at everything from a business-perspective. I do think we'll all get our money though, more so than ever. Hopefully something will be revealed, from the top, soon because I don't particularly like being the messenger especially if that role isn't exactly clear. And I suppose something would have to happen, probably either next week or the week after because I don't think they would wait for that last two-day week we have in June. That's all I can really say right now.

ghounds07

10-06-2009 19:16:14

[quote752a2f0e2b="bruman"]Well I don't want to get into to much of the details as to what was talked about without her permission of what she wants to be made public -- I figure if the company wants its customers to know something they have every means to do that. That being said the last correspondence I had with her though she was more than helpful and sincere and answered all my questions. I actually got some pretty solid information so they seem to have a plan to move this forward. [b752a2f0e2b] I don't think the people associated with the company are as evil as we project them out to be.. they seem to be decent people.. all college educated, professional and want to help people and get things shipped but of course, being a company, they have to follow certain procedures and look at everything from a business-perspective.[/b752a2f0e2b] I do think we'll all get our money though, more so than ever. Hopefully something will be revealed, from the top, soon because I don't particularly like being the messenger especially if that role isn't exactly clear. And I suppose something would have to happen, probably either next week or the week after because I don't think they would wait for that last two-day week we have in June. That's all I can really say right now.[/quote752a2f0e2b]

I'd have to disagree here bruman, true they may pay us eventually but if these people were actually "business" people and "professional" we would not be in this situation. Their chance to look at this in a "business-perspective" was like 4 years ago or whenever they opened their doors to customers, not now. I'm optimistic we'll get our money but talking to their CEO on the phone and him stating that he would answer my questions via email (which he never did), didn't really help the situation.

bruman

10-06-2009 19:26:13

[quote2f217caf1d="ghounds07"][quote2f217caf1d="bruman"]Well I don't want to get into to much of the details as to what was talked about without her permission of what she wants to be made public -- I figure if the company wants its customers to know something they have every means to do that. That being said the last correspondence I had with her though she was more than helpful and sincere and answered all my questions. I actually got some pretty solid information so they seem to have a plan to move this forward. [b2f217caf1d] I don't think the people associated with the company are as evil as we project them out to be.. they seem to be decent people.. all college educated, professional and want to help people and get things shipped but of course, being a company, they have to follow certain procedures and look at everything from a business-perspective.[/b2f217caf1d] I do think we'll all get our money though, more so than ever. Hopefully something will be revealed, from the top, soon because I don't particularly like being the messenger especially if that role isn't exactly clear. And I suppose something would have to happen, probably either next week or the week after because I don't think they would wait for that last two-day week we have in June. That's all I can really say right now.[/quote2f217caf1d]

I'd have to disagree here bruman, true they may pay us eventually but if these people were actually "business" people and "professional" we would not be in this situation. Their chance to look at this in a "business-perspective" was like 4 years ago or whenever they opened their doors to customers, not now. I'm optimistic we'll get our money but talking to their CEO on the phone and him stating that he would answer my questions via email (which he never did), didn't really help the situation.[/quote2f217caf1d]

Yeah, that's a good point. I've always tried to be 100% professional and polite with them first so maybe that's helped. When I said that I was mostly thinking about the communications/vibes I've had with them personally and not thinking about the company/situation as a whole. I was just trying to say they're not some evil organization involved in some diabolical plot to scam all of us, they want to pay us and get this resolved.

orangejuice

10-06-2009 19:39:19

Ghounds gets points for talking to the CEO.

BTW, you should see a link online in a couple weeks for a lawsuit against them. I am not going to post my name on here, but i have an agreeement worked out with a rather powerful advertising attorney )

ghounds07

10-06-2009 20:16:58

[quotece4f22e9b3="bruman"][quotece4f22e9b3="ghounds07"][quotece4f22e9b3="bruman"]Well I don't want to get into to much of the details as to what was talked about without her permission of what she wants to be made public -- I figure if the company wants its customers to know something they have every means to do that. That being said the last correspondence I had with her though she was more than helpful and sincere and answered all my questions. I actually got some pretty solid information so they seem to have a plan to move this forward. [bce4f22e9b3] I don't think the people associated with the company are as evil as we project them out to be.. they seem to be decent people.. all college educated, professional and want to help people and get things shipped but of course, being a company, they have to follow certain procedures and look at everything from a business-perspective.[/bce4f22e9b3] I do think we'll all get our money though, more so than ever. Hopefully something will be revealed, from the top, soon because I don't particularly like being the messenger especially if that role isn't exactly clear. And I suppose something would have to happen, probably either next week or the week after because I don't think they would wait for that last two-day week we have in June. That's all I can really say right now.[/quotece4f22e9b3]

I'd have to disagree here bruman, true they may pay us eventually but if these people were actually "business" people and "professional" we would not be in this situation. Their chance to look at this in a "business-perspective" was like 4 years ago or whenever they opened their doors to customers, not now. I'm optimistic we'll get our money but talking to their CEO on the phone and him stating that he would answer my questions via email (which he never did), didn't really help the situation.[/quotece4f22e9b3]

Yeah, that's a good point. I've always tried to be 100% professional and polite with them first so maybe that's helped. When I said that I was mostly thinking about the communications/vibes I've had with them personally and not thinking about the company/situation as a whole. I was just trying to say they're not some evil organization involved in some diabolical plot to scam all of us, they want to pay us and get this resolved.[/quotece4f22e9b3]

Yeah, same here and I agree with the rest of the stuff. I just can't wait til I receive this check, and I wonder what'll happen to this thread (

RolltheStampede

10-06-2009 20:38:41

the thread, the whole diy forum, what while we have to talk about or do once people get paid?, besides blast Kinney for giving out bad info all the time.

ashilef

10-06-2009 20:40:53

Hopefully this thread will die a quick and painless death...

ohboyitsryan

10-06-2009 20:53:31

[quote66da9410e6="ashilef"]Hopefully this thread will die a quick and painless death...[/quote66da9410e6]

where the baby at?!?

and I'm in the same boat as ghound, talked to brad on the phone, told to email, ain't heard from him since.

bruman did you talk to priyanka on the phone or email, cuz I've definitely been calling her for like 3 weeks or so. anyways, I will be there in 2 weeks so no paper = visitation

beerman

10-06-2009 20:54:24

[quotefaa269bf5e="bruman"]Well I don't want to get into to much of the details as to what was talked about without her permission of what she wants to be made public [/quotefaa269bf5e]

This is complete bullshit, obviously they have no intention of telling us what the hell is going on (been pestering CS for weeks to get some sdates and keep getting the same crap, even referenced the gentlemen who got a check before the audit is complete) or else they would have done so a long time ago, just tell us, we have the same right to know as you do....sick of the vague crap everyone if putting out.....especially the shipment of a MOF's check wothout any background on why he got it.

I thought we were suppose to help one another here and now its a forum of speculation and vague refernces to gift shipments.

bruman

10-06-2009 21:35:28

Well if it's true you'll find out soon enough. It's not like you're going to get your money any faster if I tell you.

beerman

10-06-2009 21:38:22

[quote718698de8f="bruman"]Well if it's true you'll find out soon enough. It's not like you're going to get your money any faster if I tell you.[/quote718698de8f]

Then get off your little power trip and tell us.

zr2152

10-06-2009 21:40:01

[quote00e185608e="beerman"][quote00e185608e="bruman"]Well I don't want to get into to much of the details as to what was talked about without her permission of what she wants to be made public [/quote00e185608e]

This is complete bullshit, obviously they have no intention of telling us what the hell is going on (been pestering CS for weeks to get some sdates and keep getting the same crap, even referenced the gentlemen who got a check before the audit is complete) or else they would have done so a long time ago, just tell us, we have the same right to know as you do....sick of the vague crap everyone if putting out.....especially the shipment of a MOF's check wothout any background on why he got it.

I thought we were suppose to help one another here and now its a forum of speculation and vague refernces to gift shipments.[/quote00e185608e]

Bruman has been the most helpful person on here and what he posted is helping. If you want more than call that chick yourself

beerman

10-06-2009 22:05:53

oh yeah, brian is helping a lot by not saying anything that would calm peoples nerves....yeah....thanks brian for all the help!

ashilef

10-06-2009 22:20:35

[quote8f03682ff9="ohboyitsryan"][quote8f03682ff9="ashilef"]Hopefully this thread will die a quick and painless death...[/quote8f03682ff9]

where the baby at?!?

and I'm in the same boat as ghound, talked to brad on the phone, told to email, ain't heard from him since.

bruman did you talk to priyanka on the phone or email, cuz I've definitely been calling her for like 3 weeks or so. anyways, I will be there in 2 weeks so no paper = visitation[/quote8f03682ff9]

She's here, had her a week ago today ) Would have been nice to have a little extra change in pocket too, but hey can't have too much excitement in one month right?

bruman

10-06-2009 22:21:58

[quote6d15b2028e="beerman"]oh yeah, brian is helping a lot by not saying anything that would calm peoples nerves....yeah....thanks brian for all the help![/quote6d15b2028e]

Alright fine, I'll stop talking. I'd prefer not to bother them by asking them for extra information to help get some general information that applies to everyone anyways, it's hard enough just getting in contact with them. If I was smart I'd probably just be focusing the conversations attention on getting my own shipped and not worry about everyone elses. And besides I don't want Priyanka thinking whatever she tells me is going to be the publics eye.. that doesn't really make for polite conversation, it's a private conversation afterall. And then what if she sees that and starts ignoring me? What good would that do anybody. Like I said if the company wants to release some information, it will. The fact that they haven't makes me nervous about even talking about anything regarding this because I assume they choose what to say for a reason. It's nothing spectacular anyways, just some extra tidbits of info that may or may not apply.

ghounds07

10-06-2009 23:44:27

haha that's hilarious ashilef had a baby before we got paid from this DIY site....wow.

congrats btw

ohboyitsryan

11-06-2009 00:57:23

[quote32ce0766f7="ashilef"][quote32ce0766f7="ohboyitsryan"][quote32ce0766f7="ashilef"]Hopefully this thread will die a quick and painless death...[/quote32ce0766f7]

where the baby at?!?

and I'm in the same boat as ghound, talked to brad on the phone, told to email, ain't heard from him since.

bruman did you talk to priyanka on the phone or email, cuz I've definitely been calling her for like 3 weeks or so. anyways, I will be there in 2 weeks so no paper = visitation[/quote32ce0766f7]

She's here, had her a week ago today ) Would have been nice to have a little extra change in pocket too, but hey can't have too much excitement in one month right?[/quote32ce0766f7]

congrats! i'll take a celebratory patron shot to you and the fam later this week when i finish finals.

and as far as bruman goes, we appreciate what you're doing man, honestly and stuff. but you have to realize that people on the forums are disillusioned by this whole process. feeding people bits and pieces will cause them to snap. rmr what happened to manofice when he went shipped...anyways, keep up with contacting them. i dont know you're secret because i've called that chick multiple times a day for a while only to get her voicemail, so props on that. if you hear anything down the pipeline that you feel comfortable sharing, please do. hearing that june is a target still keeps me somewhat hopeful...and after the new macbooks just came out, this could be a blessing in disguise.

kinneylamb

11-06-2009 03:51:05

dont forget priyanka is new to her position in charge of gift shipping / fulfillment. what she says doesnt necessarily reflect the people who screwed us so hard, we got to this point with no gifts. its pretty bad how brandarama handled our gifts, this rollercoaster we've been on, since 1-2 years ago when people signed up for them. they ruin the reputation of college educated people everywhere.

p.s. brandarama owed money to this one company having to do with advertising, and told them they would pay partial if they promised to keep their mouths shut about their bad experience. yup, true story. just a reminder of what kind of company we're really dealing with. source -- sitepoint.com

ploppsdman

11-06-2009 04:12:09

[quote36ff3f9ac5="bruman"][quote36ff3f9ac5="beerman"]oh yeah, brian is helping a lot by not saying anything that would calm peoples nerves....yeah....thanks brian for all the help![/quote36ff3f9ac5]

Alright fine, I'll stop talking. I'd prefer not to bother them by asking them for extra information to help get some general information that applies to everyone anyways, it's hard enough just getting in contact with them. If I was smart I'd probably just be focusing the conversations attention on getting my own shipped and not worry about everyone elses. And besides I don't want Priyanka thinking whatever she tells me is going to be the publics eye.. that doesn't really make for polite conversation, it's a private conversation afterall. And then what if she sees that and starts ignoring me? What good would that do anybody. Like I said if the company wants to release some information, it will. The fact that they haven't makes me nervous about even talking about anything regarding this because I assume they choose what to say for a reason. It's nothing spectacular anyways, just some extra tidbits of info that may or may not apply.[/quote36ff3f9ac5]

PM me for updates then, and a bunch of other people. I appreciate whatever help you lend to the board. We're all just annoyed with the floating deadline and if the June deadline comes and goes again, hopefully that will be the last of any of us trusting ARG and we will go the lawsuit route.

beerman

11-06-2009 06:11:49

Okay fine I'll just give priyanka a call on her cell and ask what she talk to brian bruman about and report back to everyone since you want to keep quiet. More to come

ashilef

11-06-2009 11:29:08

[quote0c4360b5bb="ghounds07"]haha that's hilarious ashilef had a baby before we got paid from this DIY site....wow.

congrats btw[/quote0c4360b5bb]

Thank you.

ashilef

11-06-2009 11:35:24

[quoteac0655f923="ohboyitsryan"][quoteac0655f923="ashilef"][quoteac0655f923="ohboyitsryan"][quoteac0655f923="ashilef"]Hopefully this thread will die a quick and painless death...[/quoteac0655f923]

where the baby at?!?

and I'm in the same boat as ghound, talked to brad on the phone, told to email, ain't heard from him since.

bruman did you talk to priyanka on the phone or email, cuz I've definitely been calling her for like 3 weeks or so. anyways, I will be there in 2 weeks so no paper = visitation[/quoteac0655f923]

She's here, had her a week ago today ) Would have been nice to have a little extra change in pocket too, but hey can't have too much excitement in one month right?[/quoteac0655f923]

congrats! i'll take a celebratory patron shot to you and the fam later this week when i finish finals.

and as far as bruman goes, we appreciate what you're doing man, honestly and stuff. but you have to realize that people on the forums are disillusioned by this whole process. feeding people bits and pieces will cause them to snap. rmr what happened to manofice when he went shipped...anyways, keep up with contacting them. i dont know you're secret because i've called that chick multiple times a day for a while only to get her voicemail, so props on that. if you hear anything down the pipeline that you feel comfortable sharing, please do. hearing that june is a target still keeps me somewhat hopeful...and after the new macbooks just came out, this could be a blessing in disguise.[/quoteac0655f923]

haha, yea well now I can take that Patron shot with you! wink

We think alike because a Macbook is pretty much where my money is going too. I'm glad someone is able to get through. I'm actually hopeful we'll get something...within the next 3 mos.

orangejuice

11-06-2009 11:49:33

With the 18 grand i was supposed to get i was going to spend all of it. I was going to put 3k on red in vegas and hope i double my money, 2k for a high class escort, and 4k for a 5 star hotel. I'm still going to do all of that, just would have been nice if they paid for it. Maybe they will in a couple of years )

tylerc

11-06-2009 12:08:56

It doesn't count if you pay for it.

kinneylamb

11-06-2009 13:36:30

i have paper copies of an original mpell certificate, if anyone needs them, just send me a PM

Eeyore

11-06-2009 15:09:12

[quotea29989377d="tylerc"]It doesn't count if you pay for it.[/quotea29989377d]
And a true big spender doesn't waste money...$2K for a "high class escort"? Hahahahahahahahah.

$2K might get you a hand job.

ashilef

11-06-2009 20:20:00

[quote8387b0fd6e="Eeyore"][quote8387b0fd6e="tylerc"]It doesn't count if you pay for it.[/quote8387b0fd6e]
And a true big spender doesn't waste money...$2K for a "high class escort"? Hahahahahahahahah.

[b8387b0fd6e]$2K might get you a hand job[/b8387b0fd6e].[/quote8387b0fd6e]

This made me LOL, I needed the laugh.

zr2152

11-06-2009 20:44:45

[quote0dbb11d7a4="Eeyore"][quote0dbb11d7a4="tylerc"]It doesn't count if you pay for it.[/quote0dbb11d7a4]
And a true big spender doesn't waste money...$2K for a "high class escort"? Hahahahahahahahah.

$2K might get you a hand job.[/quote0dbb11d7a4]

I'd rather use my own hand instead of having some escort jerking my shit around. I'm fragile and know what I like.

ashilef

11-06-2009 20:57:57

[quotef20cf1aae3="zr2152"][quotef20cf1aae3="Eeyore"][quotef20cf1aae3="tylerc"]It doesn't count if you pay for it.[/quotef20cf1aae3]
And a true big spender doesn't waste money...$2K for a "high class escort"? Hahahahahahahahah.

$2K might get you a hand job.[/quotef20cf1aae3]

I'd rather use my own hand instead of having some escort jerking my shit around. I'm fragile and know what I like.[/quotef20cf1aae3]

haha wow!!!

tp24

11-06-2009 21:28:58

[quote19d1ce3d5a="zr2152"][quote19d1ce3d5a="Eeyore"][quote19d1ce3d5a="tylerc"]It doesn't count if you pay for it.[/quote19d1ce3d5a]
And a true big spender doesn't waste money...$2K for a "high class escort"? Hahahahahahahahah.

$2K might get you a hand job.[/quote19d1ce3d5a]

I'd rather use my own hand instead of having some escort jerking my shit around. I'm fragile and know what I like.[/quote19d1ce3d5a]

What if it's Jessica Alba? litakes a look at her nip slip picli fob...fob...ah yes...











or was that too much information? [/size19d1ce3d5a]

orangejuice

11-06-2009 22:59:59

Bang.

THANK YOU for your business! You have reserved a Ferrari 430 Spider for (2) days at our Santa Monica location.
We will call the number you provided 24 hours before your rental is scheduled to begin. Please remember
to bring the same credit card you used for the deposit. We will authorize your card for $10,000 as per
the Rental Agreement damage policy. Any damage found on the vehicle will be billed against this deposit.



Invoice # 3138

Ferrari 430 Spider
2 Days Rental (M-F)

Discount - 10% Off 1 Month in Advance

Total Charged to your Mastercard $1,750.00. A balance of $1,854.00 is due upon arrival.

zr2152

11-06-2009 23:16:19

[quoted84cb72505="orangejuice"]Bang.

THANK YOU for your business! You have reserved a Ferrari 430 Spider for (2) days at our Santa Monica location.
We will call the number you provided 24 hours before your rental is scheduled to begin. Please remember
to bring the same credit card you used for the deposit. We will authorize your card for $10,000 as per
the Rental Agreement damage policy. Any damage found on the vehicle will be billed against this deposit.



Invoice # 3138

Ferrari 430 Spider
2 Days Rental (M-F)

Discount - 10% Off 1 Month in Advance

Total Charged to your Mastercard $1,750.00. A balance of $1,854.00 is due upon arrival.[/quoted84cb72505]

pics or it didn't happen

ghounds07

11-06-2009 23:21:25

[quoteb6a80af743="orangejuice"]Bang.

THANK YOU for your business! You have reserved a Ferrari 430 Spider for (2) days at our Santa Monica location.
We will call the number you provided 24 hours before your [bb6a80af743]rental[/bb6a80af743] is scheduled to begin. Please remember
to bring the same credit card you used for the deposit. We will authorize your card for $10,000 as per
the Rental Agreement damage policy. Any damage found on the vehicle will be billed against this deposit.



Invoice # 3138

Ferrari 430 Spider
2 Days Rental (M-F)

Discount - 10% Off 1 Month in Advance

Total Charged to your Mastercard $1,750.00. A balance of $1,854.00 is due upon arrival.[/quoteb6a80af743]

faking the good life or do you own one as well? (

zr2152

11-06-2009 23:29:32

M-F? I thought it was a 2 day rental?

orangejuice

12-06-2009 00:00:46

why would i rent one if i own one? that makes 0 sense. I guess M-F means it is a rental during one of those days. The weekends cost $300 extra. I plan on charging my entire trip. I'll pay it off over 6 months or something. I have a 7% interest card so its not a big deal )

ghounds07

12-06-2009 00:13:39

meant any luxury car like it, but i guess not if you have to pay it off over 6 months / it'll still be fun tho

ashilef

12-06-2009 08:01:12

Hmm, so in a way you are spending money you don't REEEEALLY have...ahh right on! It's the American Way! Have fun!

beerman

12-06-2009 08:14:51

[quotec6646cbd97="orangejuice"]Bang.

THANK YOU for your business! You have reserved a Ferrari 430 Spider for (2) days at our Santa Monica location.
We will call the number you provided 24 hours before your rental is scheduled to begin. Please remember
to bring the same credit card you used for the deposit. We will authorize your card for $10,000 as per
the Rental Agreement damage policy. Any damage found on the vehicle will be billed against this deposit.



Invoice # 3138

Ferrari 430 Spider
2 Days Rental (M-F)

Discount - 10% Off 1 Month in Advance

Total Charged to your Mastercard $1,750.00. A balance of $1,854.00 is due upon arrival.[/quotec6646cbd97]

My buddy did this in vegas....and wrecked it )

orangejuice

12-06-2009 09:37:55

That sucks. my insurance covers up to 100,000 property damage. i hope nothing happens to it.

whats wrong with charging stuff and paying it off over a period of time? isnt that what a credit card is for?

ghounds07

12-06-2009 10:02:10

cuz you end up paying more (

box86rowh

12-06-2009 10:35:32

[quotebbd2958633="orangejuice"]That sucks. my insurance covers up to 100,000 property damage. i hope nothing happens to it.

whats wrong with charging stuff and paying it off over a period of time? isnt that what a credit card is for?[/quotebbd2958633]
If something happens and you lose your income for some reason, you are screwed...

kinneylamb

12-06-2009 10:36:25

.........

this is the [b784e17f5c0]brandarama[/b784e17f5c0] thread right?

that email seems fake btw.

FreeOffersNow

12-06-2009 11:56:14

Who cares what testiclejuice is doing with the money he doesn't have? I assure you he comes here looking for the attention he doesn't get when he's out from behind the monitor.

In other news...we're 40% of the way through June. Checks or bust!

DRay9911

12-06-2009 14:55:13

i'm leaning towards bust

-dan

krazikorean

12-06-2009 15:00:42

seriously....this is getting too ridiculous!!!! ITS EITHER JUNE OR DOOM!!!!!!

oleus

12-06-2009 15:04:46

bump in the road '09. gotta love it.

mariners1999

12-06-2009 15:25:54

[quoted6ad0ae5b3="krazikorean"]seriously....this is getting too ridiculous!!!! ITS EITHER JUNE OR DOOM!!!!!![/quoted6ad0ae5b3]


SWEET!!!! I love it!!! lol

[bd6ad0ae5b3]JUNE OR DOOM[/bd6ad0ae5b3][/sized6ad0ae5b3]

That is our new rally cry!!!!

(or cry when I don't get anything by end of june)

sUrface1080

13-06-2009 08:50:47

i stopped reading at page 120.

so no one is getting paid, right?

Armstrong

13-06-2009 09:19:09

we've all been paid, but just can't seem to pull ourselves away from this thread.

box86rowh

13-06-2009 09:51:47

Its calling me!!!

kinneylamb

13-06-2009 12:46:56

to anyone who received a [b6173d476fd]dq letter[/b6173d476fd] a few months ago, did it come certified (sign for it) or regular mail?

RyanG

13-06-2009 12:51:53

[quoteca8b8985bb="kinneylamb"]to anyone who received a [bca8b8985bb]dq letter[/bca8b8985bb] a few months ago, did it come certified (sign for it) or regular mail?[/quoteca8b8985bb]

Certified.

kinneylamb

13-06-2009 12:52:38

o my, thank you

sandra habina

14-06-2009 00:24:22

I just got one today - DQ letter and it was certified.

Came from Active Response Group
mailed June 11, 2009 first class from 10011 $3.24 postage

They sent back my paperwork with a sticky tab on it with LATE on it.

My ARG issued 2/16/09 certified sent in on 3/17/09 which is 30 days.

?????

Zags1199

14-06-2009 08:22:42

Wait, what?

supafreak00

14-06-2009 08:23:40

What was the DQ for?

wes

14-06-2009 08:37:45

So does this mean they are through the audit of the original mpell certs from January 21st?

Eeyore

14-06-2009 09:17:41

"My ARG issued 2/16/09 certified sent in on 3/17/09 which is 30 days."

Considering that ARG has no concept of time, or of what a calendar even looks like, it was probably unwise to wait until the last minute.

When did they get your paperwork?

FreeOffersNow

14-06-2009 11:06:12

Who gets mail on Sunday?

oleus

14-06-2009 11:07:40

that message was dated saturday night. i guess this means tomorrow will be an interesting day of mailman-watching.

slambam

14-06-2009 12:25:14

[quotec1f5041573="oleus"]that message was dated saturday night. i guess this means tomorrow will be an interesting day of mailman-watching.[/quotec1f5041573]

Indeed. Zip 10011 is New York, so they may be making there way across the states... I'm assuming the reason for DQ is because it was sent in late, or is there a different reason? Either way, hopefully this is the last run of DQ letters, and means that they are done with the audit...

oleus

14-06-2009 12:33:17

so they're DQ'ing people for being 24 hours late in mailing their certificates (if that was even the case, sounds like he was in the 30 day range)? if they're doing that, this doesn't bode well for what else they'll be trying.

FreeOffersNow

14-06-2009 13:08:03

[quote51aebf403f="oleus"]that message was dated saturday night. i guess this means tomorrow will be an interesting day of mailman-watching.[/quote51aebf403f]

??

Posted Sun Jun 14, 2009 224 am (EST)

sandra habina lists her location as Ohio, also EST. Thus, the message is timestamped as Sunday morning. Nonetheless, I understood it was received Saturday...I was just being a smart ass because there's nothing else to do in this thread.

oleus

14-06-2009 13:15:16

well we'll probably have no shortage of things to talk about tomorrow.

kinneylamb

14-06-2009 13:23:44

wait a minute, so ARG issued sandra habina a certificate dated 2/16/09, which is a new batch of certificates after the ones we got.

she mailed it on 3/17, which is postmarked exactly 30 days from the certificate date, and she got a 'late' dq letter.

she got the DQ letter from ARG, basically her own paperwork sent back to her with "late" written on it. which means she mailed it to them in the first place? which means ARG is no longer using MPELL to do their certificates for the newer ones. did anyone else catch that?

lets get this ironed out tonight before the madness starts pouring in tomorrow with other things to talk about.

sandra habina

14-06-2009 14:26:35

Sorry - I am a nite owl so yes I meant I received the certified letter Sat. afternoon. My paperwork that I sent in with everything needed has a little blue sticky paper on it with the hand written letters LATE printed on it. But it was postmarked within 30 days as per their paperwork - so it was not late.

I just thought I would add this info - did not mean to stir things up.
I guess I should try to contact them and see - Feb is a short month so apparently they can not count days.

kinneylamb

14-06-2009 15:11:34

you did not stir things up, you were very helpful, so thanks!

ghounds07

14-06-2009 15:16:33

those bastards are just trying to weed poeple out and are using your Mpell status when they aren't in business with Mpell anymore (right?). They'll probably just make us go through more audits until none of us are left haha

paulyhasit

14-06-2009 15:31:45

Oh my word. Monday will be interesting. Scamarama keeps getting more and more shady. Hopefully the audits are over with.....
-paulyhasit

tylerc

14-06-2009 16:58:46

Oh, well if [bfd826f01e8]you[/bfd826f01e8] say they're getting more and more shady, I have to take you at your word.

mistertomlinson

14-06-2009 18:17:10

Scamarama... lol.

manOFice

14-06-2009 18:41:28

oh jesh, more dq letters, hopefully they send you guys your money soon for those that pass

zr2152

14-06-2009 21:36:22

yeah this sucks real bad guys...not to be a dick head but I am glad that I already got my cards from them way back in august. This sucks and if I were you all...I would be filing law suits out the ass.

oleus

14-06-2009 22:54:37

yeah sounds to me they didn't even read the exact terms in the mpell letter and instead just looked at "one month" instead of 30 days. incredible. this does not bode well with how they approached the audit one bit!

FreeOffersNow

15-06-2009 05:45:58

/me is waiting to receive the diqualification letter that goes something like...

"Unfortunately, we have determined that your first name begins with the letter "S". As such, you are hereby disqualified from this promotion. Additionally, you are now ineligible to participate in any program sponsored by Active Rewards Group, Inc."

dougp70

15-06-2009 07:08:53

OK, it's Monday. Let's get retarded in here.

manOFice

15-06-2009 07:42:50

[quote9fe7346da5="dougp70"]OK, it's Monday. Let's get retarded in here.[/quote9fe7346da5]

just wait till peoples mail person comes...

oleus

15-06-2009 09:27:20

[quotea9e2feb56a="sandra habina"]Sorry - I am a nite owl so yes I meant I received the certified letter Sat. afternoon. My paperwork that I sent in with everything needed has a little blue sticky paper on it with the hand written letters LATE printed on it. But it was postmarked within 30 days as per their paperwork - so it was not late.

I just thought I would add this info - did not mean to stir things up.
I guess I should try to contact them and see - Feb is a short month so apparently they can not count days.[/quotea9e2feb56a]

have you been able to contact them yet? I can't wait to hear how they explain how they can DQ you for being "late" if you were postmarked within 30 days.

plus, how unprofessional is it to send everything back with a handwritten note that just says "LATE" on it? No official letter? insane.....

oleus

wiebelhaus03

15-06-2009 10:00:00

plus the fact that mpell is no longer in the picture.....

mariners1999

15-06-2009 10:25:26

[quote7dfa0601c5="sandra habina"]I just got one today - DQ letter and it was certified.

Came from Active Response Group
mailed June 11, 2009 first class from 10011 $3.24 postage

They sent back my paperwork with a sticky tab on it with LATE on it.

My ARG issued 2/16/09 certified sent in on 3/17/09 which is 30 days.

?????[/quote7dfa0601c5]

From what I see this is an isolated incident. Kind of like ManOfIce getting his check already. I still have a feeling we will see checks in June (the next few weeks) Lets not all go crazy today. This person above waited 30 DAYS!!! If you get something from them to wait the exact 30 days is just begging for trouble with Brandarama.

JUNE OR DOOM!!!

wink

bruman

15-06-2009 10:31:12

I thought they were done with audits but this must have been this "final audit" of the certificates they were referring too. I think this is going to be a rather light thing and won't effect many at all. Sandra habina should be able to get let off the hook if she explains her side. So this is a good thing.. it means they're done with the audit, which was the main excuse for delaying shipments.

imapepper

15-06-2009 10:47:56

According to support the audit has still yet to be completed. I dont think we should take this as a sign that the audit is complete and that we will be getting our checks anytime soon. God knows what is going on. Someone on a4free got a certified letter too that he wasnt there to sign for.....yet he already received his checks from brandarama......go figure.

ashilef

15-06-2009 10:57:27

[quote079d766316="dougp70"]OK, it's Monday. Let's get retarded in here.[/quote079d766316]
haha!

oleus

15-06-2009 10:57:55

the June date for things potentially all getting "taken care of" comes from someone who talked to priyanka right? aside from knowing exactly what she said and exactly where they are in this process i don't know how anyone can realistically expect anything anytime soon. i sent my last certificate in 5 days before the deadline so even though i thought i had everything covered now i have to wait nervously for the mailman every day this week.....

...if someone could provide more specifics as to why they think we will get paid in June i would appreciate it.

imapepper

15-06-2009 11:02:39

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=152045&pid=1126043&st=40&#entry1126043

This guy got a "LATE" notice after already getting paid.

oleus

15-06-2009 11:05:13

wow.

and some of us thought this couldn't get any more ridiculous.

imapepper

15-06-2009 11:10:09

Brandarama doesnt seem to know their alili from their elbow. They are all over the place.

kinneylamb

15-06-2009 13:01:11

[quote9fe31f18a8="imapepper"]http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=152045&pid=1126043&st=40&#entry1126043

This guy got a "LATE" notice after already getting paid.[/quote9fe31f18a8]
he complained to them several months ago, because mpell sent him a late letter. brandarama then paid him, and they just sent him the 'late' note anyway. so if mpell didn't dq you, from the original january batch of certificates, you should be fine.

Eeyore

16-06-2009 12:18:35

[quoted3ea30b4ec="kinneylamb"]so if mpell didn't dq you, from the original january batch of certificates, you should be fine.[/quoted3ea30b4ec]
That's a pretty wild assumption considering they've been re-auditing everything again since Mpell was flushed out of the process, with the explicit goal of reducing the payout.

imapepper

16-06-2009 12:33:59

LOL my complaint finally made it to the NY BBB against ARG, filed back in April. They said they are contacting the company and will get back to me when they get an answer LOLOLOLOLOL.

Im sure Sherry will cut and paste them a few lines from her book of one liners.

supersponger1979

16-06-2009 12:59:04

Not sure if this is new info...Got this today

Thank you for contacting us.

They are finishing up the audit. When this is done they will mail out checks. I don't have a time table on this.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
RewardsParade Member Support

oleus

16-06-2009 13:05:17

maybe these stray DQ letters are a sign that their big sweeping final audit of our suspicious certificates / receipts yielded nothing more than a few "late" gotchyas? maybe they found out that a vast vast majority of our receipts were real.

Eeyore

16-06-2009 13:23:03

[quote4fb60cd1e1="supersponger1979"]Not sure if this is new info...[/quote4fb60cd1e1]
That's the latest boilerplate response.

kinneylamb

16-06-2009 15:03:02

[quote24538d901f="Eeyore"][quote24538d901f="kinneylamb"]so if mpell didn't dq you, from the original january batch of certificates, you should be fine.[/quote24538d901f]
That's a pretty wild assumption considering they've been re-auditing everything again since Mpell was flushed out of the process, with the explicit goal of reducing the payout.[/quote24538d901f]
i meant, if mpell didn't dq you for being late, from the original batch of certificates from january, then you won't get a certified letter from brandarama with a "late" sticky in it.

2 people so far rec'd "late" certified letters, and they rec'd their paperwork back from mpell before that. a 3rd person only reported receiving a "late" letter, and she didnt mention having to go through mpell or not. her certificate was postmarked in february after ours.

LucaBella

16-06-2009 16:19:48

I just don't understand why you're still acting like you know what's going on Kinney. You've literally been doing this for months, telling people that all they have to do is follow brandarama's rules, it's no big deal, they'll be fine, they'll get their stuff.

You don't know anything about the company or what their real intentions are, so quit pretending.

Eeyore

16-06-2009 17:07:15

[quoted71981463a="kinneylamb"]i meant, if mpell didn't dq you for being late,(etc)[/quoted71981463a]
That's not what you posted. At this point cite your sources or shut up.

oleus

16-06-2009 21:17:01

how much longer can the "final stage" of the audit really take...it's time for this nightmare to be over

kinneylamb

16-06-2009 23:17:55

two ppl from a4f + 1 person at fipg. the current letters suggest that if you mailed in your january-batch certificates and did not receive a late note from mpell, then you wont receive one from brandarama. 2 people rec'd late notes from mpell, one fought it. the 3rd from fipg did not report anything about mpell however hers was not a january-batch. i guess we could ask if anyone postmarked their january certificate exactly 30 days later and got away with it. or she could come back and clarify if mpell dq'd her first.

im not saying anything someone else couldnt read, figure out, and say. didnt know i was speaking to kindergarteners.

dougp70

17-06-2009 19:37:03

I hate it when a whole day goes by with no new and interesting conversation.

ohboyitsryan

17-06-2009 21:15:08

bruman needs to press for some info with priyanka or just give up the digits to someone who is down to be proactive with her cuz this is ridiculous. just waiting around for a whole bunch of nothing... so either pm someone a number, or press the girl and pm the results cuz it seems like ur the only one who can reach her but you aren't willing to let us in on the strategy or the contents of your convos

zr2152

17-06-2009 22:36:50

[quote0b2b729899="ohboyitsryan"]bruman needs to press for some info with priyanka or just give up the digits to someone who is down to be proactive with her cuz this is ridiculous. just waiting around for a whole bunch of nothing... so either pm someone a number, or press the girl and pm the results cuz it seems like ur the only one who can reach her but you aren't willing to let us in on the strategy or the contents of your convos[/quote0b2b729899]

I'm sure he is releasing all the information that is helpful/relevant to you...any other information is probably irrelevant.

r-e-l-a-x.

bruman

17-06-2009 23:36:58

[quote204d3a5240="zr2152"][quote204d3a5240="ohboyitsryan"]bruman needs to press for some info with priyanka or just give up the digits to someone who is down to be proactive with her cuz this is ridiculous. just waiting around for a whole bunch of nothing... so either pm someone a number, or press the girl and pm the results cuz it seems like ur the only one who can reach her but you aren't willing to let us in on the strategy or the contents of your convos[/quote204d3a5240]

I'm sure he is releasing all the information that is helpful/relevant to you...any other information is probably irrelevant.

r-e-l-a-x.[/quote204d3a5240]

Yeah, it's a complicated situation. The conversation was mostly about my personal account.. so I don't want to get into much detail about that for obvious reasons (such as, like zr said, it's not relevant to anyone but me). Once I get the money I'm owed or once I hear something that has relevance to everyone waiting I'll let you know. I'm doing what I can and I guess you'll just have to believe me but the relationship between her and I is better left as it is right now.

And if what you're worried about is never receiving the reimbursement... they are planning on paying people, so I wouldn't worry about that. I do understand how hard and stressful all these delays are though...

mistertomlinson

18-06-2009 06:05:47

[quote6bbe6fb047="bruman"][quote6bbe6fb047="zr2152"][quote6bbe6fb047="ohboyitsryan"]bruman needs to press for some info with priyanka or just give up the digits to someone who is down to be proactive with her cuz this is ridiculous. just waiting around for a whole bunch of nothing... so either pm someone a number, or press the girl and pm the results cuz it seems like ur the only one who can reach her but you aren't willing to let us in on the strategy or the contents of your convos[/quote6bbe6fb047]

I'm sure he is releasing all the information that is helpful/relevant to you...any other information is probably irrelevant.

r-e-l-a-x.[/quote6bbe6fb047]

Yeah, it's a complicated situation. The conversation was mostly about my personal account.. so I don't want to get into much detail about that for obvious reasons (such as, like zr said, it's not relevant to anyone but me). Once I get the money I'm owed or once I hear something that has relevance to everyone waiting I'll let you know. I'm doing what I can and I guess you'll just have to believe me but the relationship between her and I is better left as it is right now.

And if what you're worried about is never receiving the reimbursement... they are planning on paying people, so I wouldn't worry about that. I do understand how hard and stressful all these delays are though...[/quote6bbe6fb047]

Are you guys like internet dating?

ohboyitsryan

18-06-2009 06:28:43

[quote240faccb46="zr2152"][quote240faccb46="ohboyitsryan"]bruman needs to press for some info with priyanka or just give up the digits to someone who is down to be proactive with her cuz this is ridiculous. just waiting around for a whole bunch of nothing... so either pm someone a number, or press the girl and pm the results cuz it seems like ur the only one who can reach her but you aren't willing to let us in on the strategy or the contents of your convos[/quote240faccb46]

I'm sure he is releasing all the information that is helpful/relevant to you...any other information is probably irrelevant.

r-e-l-a-x.[/quote240faccb46]

it's a lot easier to say relax when you've already been p-a-i-d

RolltheStampede

18-06-2009 06:37:14

ok so ill say it relax.

ohboyitsryan

18-06-2009 07:25:40

[quotec65bc0a879="RolltheStampede"]ok so ill say it relax.[/quotec65bc0a879]

nah fuck all that. I don't know about all of you guys, but I'm not down with people fucking with my money so I have a right to be on edge. my flight leaves next Tuesday to NYC. please believe, I will be making moves, don't get it twisted. the rest of you guys can relax and chill and kick back and all that other shit.

prizejunkie

18-06-2009 08:04:09

lol you are not going to do anything, what a joke...

ohboyitsryan

18-06-2009 08:17:20

[quotecd9f83bb25="prizejunkie"]lol you are not going to do anything, what a joke...[/quotecd9f83bb25]

i'm staying south of washington square park and ARG is located a mile and a half north of me...why wouldn't I go to their building?

check yourself before you pop off again without knowing anything.

RolltheStampede

18-06-2009 08:30:31

good luck with that. hope you get some answers

viperklt21

18-06-2009 09:06:10

[quotea3c7399ff2="ohboyitsryan"]

check yourself before you pop off again without knowing anything.[/quotea3c7399ff2]

Check your self for what?

RolltheStampede

18-06-2009 09:34:49

chiggars, they are annoying lil buggers

tp24

18-06-2009 10:19:19

Money doesn't really buy happiness. It does buy you some free time though.

Crizo

18-06-2009 10:47:32

Check thine self before thine wrecks thine self. Forsooth!

Am I the only one hoping when ohboyitsryan busts into the ARG offices someone shouts out, "Oh boy! It's Ryan!"

That needs to happen.

tylerc

18-06-2009 11:24:16

[quoteba60db2e91="tp24"][bba60db2e91]Money doesn't really buy happiness[/bba60db2e91]. It does buy you some free time though.[/quoteba60db2e91]

That phrase should end with, "just kidding". It buys a wave runner. You ever see a sad person on a wave runner? Try to frown on a wave runner. Money buys happiness. You ever see a homeless person skip? They don't. They're not allowed.

+karma for whoever knows what comedian said that.

maverik

18-06-2009 11:25:09

[quotef75f6bd4f1="RolltheStampede"]chiggars, they are annoying lil buggers[/quotef75f6bd4f1]

What's that now -- I mean what's your point, because it sounds like you're trying to be a clandestine jerk-off =/

maverik

18-06-2009 11:29:19

[quote26c62944d9="tylerc"][quote26c62944d9="tp24"][b26c62944d9]Money doesn't really buy happiness[/b26c62944d9]. It does buy you some free time though.[/quote26c62944d9]

That phrase should end with, "just kidding". It buys a wave runner. You ever see a sad person on a wave runner? Try to frown on a wave runner. Money buys happiness. You ever see a homeless person skip? They don't. They're not allowed.

+karma for whoever knows what comedian said that.[/quote26c62944d9]

"Fcuk you muthafcuka, white people taste like macaroni & cheese!" -- Danny Tosh

RolltheStampede

18-06-2009 11:50:54

[quotec80b536547="maverik"][quotec80b536547="RolltheStampede"]chiggars, they are annoying lil buggers[/quotec80b536547]

What's that now -- I mean what's your point, because it sounds like you're trying to be a clandestine jerk-off =/[/quotec80b536547]

http//mdc.mo.gov/nathis/arthopo/chiggers/images/chig2.jpg[" alt=""/imgc80b536547]

http//mdc.mo.gov/nathis/arthopo/chiggers/

the internet is for more than just porn

hawke12

18-06-2009 12:05:37

[quoted9cb1312ed="tylerc"][quoted9cb1312ed="tp24"][bd9cb1312ed]Money doesn't really buy happiness[/bd9cb1312ed]. It does buy you some free time though.[/quoted9cb1312ed]

That phrase should end with, "just kidding". It buys a wave runner. You ever see a sad person on a wave runner? Try to frown on a wave runner. Money buys happiness. You ever see a homeless person skip? They don't. They're not allowed.

+karma for whoever knows what comedian said that.[/quoted9cb1312ed]


Daniel Tosh ;)



edit Hehe I just saw that Maverik beat me to it )

ploppsdman

18-06-2009 14:45:00

[quotec20fb298dc="bruman"][quotec20fb298dc="zr2152"][quotec20fb298dc="ohboyitsryan"]bruman needs to press for some info with priyanka or just give up the digits to someone who is down to be proactive with her cuz this is ridiculous. just waiting around for a whole bunch of nothing... so either pm someone a number, or press the girl and pm the results cuz it seems like ur the only one who can reach her but you aren't willing to let us in on the strategy or the contents of your convos[/quotec20fb298dc]

I'm sure he is releasing all the information that is helpful/relevant to you...any other information is probably irrelevant.

r-e-l-a-x.[/quotec20fb298dc]

Yeah, it's a complicated situation. The conversation was mostly about my personal account.. so I don't want to get into much detail about that for obvious reasons (such as, like zr said, it's not relevant to anyone but me). Once I get the money I'm owed or once I hear something that has relevance to everyone waiting I'll let you know. I'm doing what I can and I guess you'll just have to believe me but the relationship between her and I is better left as it is right now.

And if what you're worried about is never receiving the reimbursement... they are planning on paying people, so I wouldn't worry about that. I do understand how hard and stressful all these delays are though...[/quotec20fb298dc]

I have about 1/2000th of inch of belief we are ever getting our checks and when June is over, that belief goes with it. And then I'll join everyone in submitting Attorney General complaints and researching small claims. But I want to add that I appreciate the near-hope that you add to this thread with your conversations with them.

ohboyitsryan

18-06-2009 15:29:45

[quotebabdcac582="ploppsdman"][quotebabdcac582="bruman"][quotebabdcac582="zr2152"][quotebabdcac582="ohboyitsryan"]bruman needs to press for some info with priyanka or just give up the digits to someone who is down to be proactive with her cuz this is ridiculous. just waiting around for a whole bunch of nothing... so either pm someone a number, or press the girl and pm the results cuz it seems like ur the only one who can reach her but you aren't willing to let us in on the strategy or the contents of your convos[/quotebabdcac582]

I'm sure he is releasing all the information that is helpful/relevant to you...any other information is probably irrelevant.

r-e-l-a-x.[/quotebabdcac582]

Yeah, it's a complicated situation. The conversation was mostly about my personal account.. so I don't want to get into much detail about that for obvious reasons (such as, like zr said, it's not relevant to anyone but me). Once I get the money I'm owed or once I hear something that has relevance to everyone waiting I'll let you know. I'm doing what I can and I guess you'll just have to believe me but the relationship between her and I is better left as it is right now.

And if what you're worried about is never receiving the reimbursement... they are planning on paying people, so I wouldn't worry about that. I do understand how hard and stressful all these delays are though...[/quotebabdcac582]

I have about 1/2000th of inch of belief we are ever getting our checks and when June is over, that belief goes with it. And then I'll join everyone in submitting Attorney General complaints and researching small claims. But I want to add that I appreciate the near-hope that you add to this thread with your conversations with them.[/quotebabdcac582]

they have about 2-3 days left to have ppl go shipped if they want to get checks out in June because it takes 10 days or so to get a check per their customer service reps. phones don't get answered and emails are useless. if someobody doesn't go shipped by next week, june ain't happening.

slambam

18-06-2009 15:30:14

The only reason I have any hope is because they haven't said we aren't getting it. I would think that if they're not going to pay us, they wouldn't wait 1.5+ years before they tell us we won't get our money. Just my thought...

mariners1999

18-06-2009 15:50:56

[quote2a20725c18="slambam"]The only reason I have any hope is because they haven't said we aren't getting it. I would think that if they're not going to pay us, they wouldn't wait 1.5+ years before they tell us we won't get our money. Just my thought...[/quote2a20725c18]

With all the work with Mpell and the audits to get rid of the people that fraud multiple offers I just don't think they would go through all this work just to screw us in the end. This is after all a business and all these decisions are business decisions.

Why hire people when you are just going to close up shop?
Why string us along as the same people that would have sued if they were DQ'd a year ago will sue now?
Why promote someone to be in charge of fullfilment of Mpell stuff?
Why even bring Mpell on if you are not interested in paying?

I just don't see it. I think we get our checks pretty soon. (compared to the wait we have already had)

mistertomlinson

18-06-2009 16:13:33

[quotef743ad0b2f="tp24"]Money doesn't really buy happiness. It does buy you some free time though.[/quotef743ad0b2f]

I'll have you know there was an episode of 20/20 or DateLine wherein they proved that money did indeed buy happiness. I think they did studies and surveyed a ton of people and even managed to narrow it down to a monetary figure... the exact amount of money that generally "bought" happiness. I would have to agree entirely. I would be preeeeetty happy with a bunch of shit right now.

bruman

18-06-2009 16:54:00

[quotec51d696749="mariners1999"][quotec51d696749="slambam"]The only reason I have any hope is because they haven't said we aren't getting it. I would think that if they're not going to pay us, they wouldn't wait 1.5+ years before they tell us we won't get our money. Just my thought...[/quotec51d696749]

With all the work with Mpell and the audits to get rid of the people that fraud multiple offers I just don't think they would go through all this work just to screw us in the end. This is after all a business and all these decisions are business decisions.

Why hire people when you are just going to close up shop?
Why string us along as the same people that would have sued if they were DQ'd a year ago will sue now?
Why promote someone to be in charge of fullfilment of Mpell stuff?
Why even bring Mpell on if you are not interested in paying?

I just don't see it. I think we get our checks pretty soon. (compared to the wait we have already had)[/quotec51d696749]

Not to mention they've already paid out numerous people who complained (to the people that matter, not the CS reps) about the delay or mpell and asked to be shipped out sooner. They probably already sent out at least $10,000 worth. There's no way they would be doing that if this whole thing was a big scam as some of you are saying.

kinneylamb

18-06-2009 17:09:31

so science says, if we get our money, we'll be happy. yea i can confirm that.

massman

18-06-2009 17:17:35

pics or didn't happen.

ghounds07

18-06-2009 17:52:09

[quote801c2aeef1="Crizo"]Check thine self before thine wrecks thine self. Forsooth!

Am I the only one hoping when ohboyitsryan busts into the ARG offices someone shouts out, "Oh boy! It's Ryan!"

That needs to happen.[/quote801c2aeef1]

hahaha

zr2152

18-06-2009 19:39:41

I just want to reiterate what a few ppl said above

You are right. It does not make sense for a company to keep delaying the payments if they are NOT going to pay everyone. They could simply say "We are not sending out checks". I am absolutely positively certain that checks will be shipped out soon. Like someone said, they went through a lot of shit with the whole MPELL process and audits and what not so you will be paid.

It just sucks big balllllls that this is taking 2+ years. According to the information Bruman provided...once June is over, everyone needs to file with the Attorney General.

It makes no sense to wait past June to do so. This is it. These next few weeks are going to be extremely interesting.

ploppsdman

18-06-2009 20:27:35

[quotef20875609d="zr2152"]I just want to reiterate what a few ppl said above

You are right. It does not make sense for a company to keep delaying the payments if they are NOT going to pay everyone. They could simply say "We are not sending out checks". I am absolutely positively certain that checks will be shipped out soon. Like someone said, they went through a lot of shit with the whole MPELL process and audits and what not so you will be paid.

It just sucks big balllllls that this is taking 2+ years. According to the information Bruman provided...once June is over, everyone needs to file with the Attorney General.

It makes no sense to wait past June to do so. This is it. These next few weeks are going to be extremely interesting.[/quotef20875609d]

I don't think the next few weeks will be any more interesting than the last 2 years were.

zr2152

18-06-2009 20:35:23

of course they will cause if nothing is received there will hopefully be tons of lawsuits filed.

bennyboy5768

18-06-2009 21:57:04

I think we all need to review what ARG wrote to us 7 weeks ago

[quoteb8a04e8a9e]Thank you for your participation in our Cash Back Certificate Program powered by YourTopBrands.

The purpose of this note is to inform you that we are experiencing delays in fulfillment.

The delay is due to the overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies and evidence that suggests fraudulent transactions. This discovery has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. In order to expedite this process we have hired additional staff to inspect each certificate.

Be assured that all qualified customers shall receive their check as soon as possible.

Additionally, please note that you will be receiving your check directly from Active Response Group.

You may contact our customer service and fulfillment department directly by calling 1-877-312-7263 or via email= at email=support@cs.YourTopBrands.comsupport@cs.YourTopBrands.com at email=support@cs.YourTopBrands.comsupport@cs.YourTopBrands.com/email, should you have any questions.

Please DO NOT contact MPELL Solutions. MPELL will not be involved in the final processing and fulfillment of this program.

Thank you for your participation and patience.

Sincerely yours,

Customer Care Department[/quoteb8a04e8a9e]

As with the certificates, ill give them 10 weeks from when the email was sent as the email was received 10 weeks after the expiration date on the certs. If nothing happens by July 8th, then I'll start getting pissed but for now I have a patient heart for them. I have no doubt in my mind we will get paid, its just a matter of when. They're a big company and we most certainly are not their only customers. I agree with all of you that this has gotten out of hand. Hell, I've been waiting since Oct '07 for my money. But I think a little patience will go a long way. We've waited this long, we can wait a little bit longer. And for those who say they are going to file this and do that, I call you on your bluff. Until I see proof that someone actually filed any lawsuit or paperwork it's all just hot air.

kinneylamb

18-06-2009 23:47:25

no they're serious, they're filing. the only reason they didn't file sooner is because we received that e-mail you posted above.

ohboyitsryan

19-06-2009 00:57:36

[quotedd37237dcb="bennyboy5768"]I think we all need to review what ARG wrote to us 7 weeks ago

[quotedd37237dcb]Thank you for your participation in our Cash Back Certificate Program powered by YourTopBrands.

The purpose of this note is to inform you that we are experiencing delays in fulfillment.

The delay is due to the overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies and evidence that suggests fraudulent transactions. This discovery has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. In order to expedite this process we have hired additional staff to inspect each certificate.

Be assured that all qualified customers shall receive their check as soon as possible.

Additionally, please note that you will be receiving your check directly from Active Response Group.

You may contact our customer service and fulfillment department directly by calling 1-877-312-7263 or via email= at email=support@cs.YourTopBrands.comsupport@cs.YourTopBrands.com at email=support@cs.YourTopBrands.comsupport@cs.YourTopBrands.com/email, should you have any questions.

Please DO NOT contact MPELL Solutions. MPELL will not be involved in the final processing and fulfillment of this program.

Thank you for your participation and patience.

Sincerely yours,

Customer Care Department[/quotedd37237dcb]

As with the certificates, ill give them 10 weeks from when the email was sent as the email was received 10 weeks after the expiration date on the certs. If nothing happens by July 8th, then I'll start getting pissed but for now I have a patient heart for them. I have no doubt in my mind we will get paid, its just a matter of when. They're a big company and we most certainly are not their only customers. I agree with all of you that this has gotten out of hand. Hell, I've been waiting since Oct '07 for my money. But I think a little patience will go a long way. We've waited this long, we can wait a little bit longer. And for those who say they are going to file this and do that, I call you on your bluff. Until I see proof that someone actually filed any lawsuit or paperwork it's all just hot air.[/quotedd37237dcb]

this seems to be a recurring trend with this thread. every week a new person will "graciously give ARG a lengthy time table to fulfill or else"...i dont understand when the fine line between patience and frustration is crossed...is it after 3 years? 4 years? 10 years?

bennyboy is right, people always talk about filing, then sit on it and dont do anything because of the process. if people are really going to let their laziness trump getting paid then they really need to email ARG and just say they are fine without the cash.

and for those who keep saying "why would ARG go through all this shit if they werent going to pay..." lets think about this...

1. there is no comparative advantage in paying us for a variety of reasons. they have already made their money off of us, and the fact that nobody has really pursued legal action, they just shut their phones down and are swimming in piles of gold coins. honestly.

2. they went thru all that shit to weed people out, little by little they knocked out i dunno? a couple of people, maybe 10 or 11? their business plans were so flawed (yes director of fulfillment, an mba from clark university doesnt really mean shit if you cant implement an effective business strategy) that they kept having to re-invent new ways to swindle. it's not because they wanted to pay us, its because they didnt want to pay us.

will they pay us? who the fuck knows. everybody needs to just get up and do something. file what you need to file and lets make some shit happen. i'll try to tweet from NY when i hit up the office and hopefully let ya'll know wtf is really going on down there.

hawke12

19-06-2009 05:49:37

[quote8d5fe692e6="slambam"]The only reason I have any hope is because they haven't said we aren't getting it. [/quote8d5fe692e6]
When Your scamming someone, you don't tell the people your scamming, that you are.
[quote8d5fe692e6="slambam"] I would think that if they're not going to pay us, they wouldn't wait 1.5+ years before they tell us we won't get our money. Just my thought...[/quote8d5fe692e6]
Sure they would, as long as No One was filing lawsuits and badmouthing them, they make a killing.
[quote8d5fe692e6="slambam"]With all the work with Mpell and the audits to get rid of the people that fraud multiple offers I just don't think they would go through all this work just to screw us in the end. This is after all a business and all these decisions are business decisions. [/quote8d5fe692e6]
Sure they would if it prolonged the process of scamming people even longer to bring in NEW FISH, and scam them as well. And it seems to have worked, it's been a considerable time past the 6-10 week deadline set by the MPELL Certs.
[quote8d5fe692e6="slambam"]Why hire people when you are just going to close up shop?
Why string us along as the same people that would have sued if they were DQ'd a year ago will sue now?
Why promote someone to be in charge of fullfilment of Mpell stuff?
Why even bring Mpell on if you are not interested in paying?

I just don't see it. I think we get our checks pretty soon. (compared to the wait we have already had)[/quote8d5fe692e6]

I'll say it again. To make the CON last as long as possible.

When the shit hits the fan, what do you think will happen? I know from experience with a shady company what will happen. They WILL close up shop, and walk away scott free. Why? because they CAN.

Then they'll INC. a new name, and start all over again.

They get 700 lawsuits all claiming X amount of dollars, all they do is claim bankruptcy, and its over.

File now while there's few doing it, and get what you can.

crazy4beatz

19-06-2009 06:46:27

does anybody have the address?
im going to stop by today.

Zags1199

19-06-2009 08:25:41

http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/about_us.php

lulz if you actually do.

RolltheStampede

19-06-2009 08:26:03

ohboy should have, wait till he goes and bust up in there like the dynamic duo

oleus

19-06-2009 08:54:05

just tell the doorman you're there to join the ponzi scheme and i'm sure you'll be escorted straight to brad's desk! tell the thieves i said "hi".

ohboyitsryan

19-06-2009 09:11:15

i have a feeling like I'm going to go in there and see some wild shit, beer pong tables, arcade machines, probably an ice luge. there's no way they can be working that hard now especially since they cannot be contacted. getting past security will be an adventure too...we'll see what happens in 5 days. stay posted.

oleus

19-06-2009 09:14:28

[quote855ddb2bca="ohboyitsryan"]i have a feeling like I'm going to go in there and see some wild shit, beer pong tables, arcade machines, probably an ice luge. there's no way they can be working that hard now especially since they cannot be contacted. getting past security will be an adventure too...we'll see what happens in 5 days. stay posted.[/quote855ddb2bca]

that sounds very much what i imagine the "final stages of the audit" looks like as well. have fun up there.

bruman

19-06-2009 09:23:27

The mpell/cash back scenario is only a small portion of the company.. a lot of the employees aren't even aware of what's going on. It's just a select number of people that are assigned to certain tasks.

Admin

19-06-2009 09:32:01

you'll sign in at the desk and bluff your way upstairs

to find a standard office with cubicles and whatnot. ad agencies are boring inside. most people working there will have no clue about your internet crusade. if you manage to talk to somebody they'll brush you off, maybe ask for your name and number and pretend like they'll call you back later.

if you get violent or aggressive they'll definitely just ignore you and call security

i mean go for it for all i care, these people you hate and demonize so much are just regular joes going to work for a company that was clearly hard-hit by the economic downturn (i can tell you from personal experience that there's a lot less money flowing around affiliate marketing these days)

ohboyitsryan

19-06-2009 09:53:31

[quotee1846ca9d0="Admin"]you'll sign in at the desk and bluff your way upstairs

to find a standard office with cubicles and whatnot. ad agencies are boring inside. most people working there will have no clue about your internet crusade. if you manage to talk to somebody they'll brush you off, maybe ask for your name and number and pretend like they'll call you back later.

if you get violent or aggressive they'll definitely just ignore you and call security

i mean go for it for all i care, these people you hate and demonize so much are just regular joes going to work for a company that was clearly hard-hit by the economic downturn (i can tell you from personal experience that there's a lot less money flowing around affiliate marketing these days)[/quotee1846ca9d0]

it's definitely a desperation move, I'll be the first to admit that. I've just run out of options and sitting aroud waiting has gotten all of us nowhere. this is more for my personal satisfaction in hopes of gaining peace of mind, or not. either way, I'm down to try some new shit.

orangejuice

19-06-2009 11:26:36

i can go up there with you if you'd like. we could go to lunch or something before hand and plan this out. i am going to long island next week so why not.

kinneylamb

19-06-2009 12:10:20

[quote242a0dbfb8="Admin"]you'll sign in at the desk and bluff your way upstairs

to find a standard office with cubicles and whatnot. ad agencies are boring inside. most people working there will have no clue about your internet crusade. if you manage to talk to somebody they'll brush you off, maybe ask for your name and number and pretend like they'll call you back later.

if you get violent or aggressive they'll definitely just ignore you and call security

i mean go for it for all i care, these people you hate and demonize so much are just regular joes going to work for a company that was clearly hard-hit by the economic downturn (i can tell you from personal experience that there's a lot less money flowing around affiliate marketing these days)[/quote242a0dbfb8]

do you have eyes?

brandarama virtually hasnt been paying people the majority of last year. they were stuck on july 07 gifts which was complete bs. and for an economic downturn, they continue to operate the current sites and create new ones. in other words, create legions of more people they won't pay.

kinneylamb

19-06-2009 12:14:35

[quote9647c441e2="ohboyitsryan"][quote9647c441e2="Admin"]you'll sign in at the desk and bluff your way upstairs

to find a standard office with cubicles and whatnot. ad agencies are boring inside. most people working there will have no clue about your internet crusade. if you manage to talk to somebody they'll brush you off, maybe ask for your name and number and pretend like they'll call you back later.

if you get violent or aggressive they'll definitely just ignore you and call security

i mean go for it for all i care, these people you hate and demonize so much are just regular joes going to work for a company that was clearly hard-hit by the economic downturn (i can tell you from personal experience that there's a lot less money flowing around affiliate marketing these days)[/quote9647c441e2]

it's definitely a desperation move, I'll be the first to admit that. I've just run out of options and sitting aroud waiting has gotten all of us nowhere. this is more for my personal satisfaction in hopes of gaining peace of mind, or not. either way, I'm down to try some new shit.[/quote9647c441e2]

its not desperation, you just wanna physically visit the office, speak to someone face to face, and get a better feel for what's going on. waiting as long as you have, you have every right to feel that way. it's normal.

michae229

19-06-2009 14:25:11

[quotef38adce8c6="kinneylamb"][quotef38adce8c6="ohboyitsryan"][quotef38adce8c6="Admin"]you'll sign in at the desk and bluff your way upstairs

to find a standard office with cubicles and whatnot. ad agencies are boring inside. most people working there will have no clue about your internet crusade. if you manage to talk to somebody they'll brush you off, maybe ask for your name and number and pretend like they'll call you back later.

if you get violent or aggressive they'll definitely just ignore you and call security

i mean go for it for all i care, these people you hate and demonize so much are just regular joes going to work for a company that was clearly hard-hit by the economic downturn (i can tell you from personal experience that there's a lot less money flowing around affiliate marketing these days)[/quotef38adce8c6]

it's definitely a desperation move, I'll be the first to admit that. I've just run out of options and sitting aroud waiting has gotten all of us nowhere. this is more for my personal satisfaction in hopes of gaining peace of mind, or not. either way, I'm down to try some new shit.[/quotef38adce8c6]

its not desperation, you just wanna physically visit the office, speak to someone face to face, and get a better feel for what's going on. waiting as long as you have, you have every right to feel that way. it's normal.[/quotef38adce8c6]

I'm still optimistic maybe we will get our money... but you peoples logic is flawed just because companies are doing and saying things that give hope doesn't really mean anything.... may not be the same but I remember when worldcom's CEO was still telling people to buy stock.... so Admin are you telling me if that happened to you, you would still buy stock? lolz

But hey we went through this with freepay and in the end we got our stuff but the economy was fine then also so i dunno...


also i find myself just going here to see things, how are trainn and freepay are they still in business?

one more thing does brandmana have financial statements that may show if they can even pay us

mariners1999

19-06-2009 15:01:27

[quote1c217c613d="michae229"]

one more thing does brandmana have financial statements that may show if they can even pay us[/size1c217c613d][/quote1c217c613d]

Private company = no financial statements available for us to review


M

michae229

19-06-2009 15:29:25

[quote32e80469c2="mariners1999"][quote32e80469c2="michae229"]

one more thing does brandmana have financial statements that may show if they can even pay us[/size32e80469c2][/quote32e80469c2]

Private company = no financial statements available for us to review


M[/quote32e80469c2]

damn lol

beerman

19-06-2009 15:38:28

who's good at guessing?

https//mail.activeresponsegroup.com[]https//mail.activeresponsegroup.com

kinneylamb

19-06-2009 15:52:29

the economy shouldnt have anything to do with it, unless they kept their funds in the stock market.

they still sell users personal info, they still get paid by the offers, there may be less companies involved now, but whoever does get involved pays right? so the wheels are still very much in motion so long as customers are participating in their sites, which in this economy, is more likely than anything

doylnea

19-06-2009 16:03:22

lol, do you have any idea how ARG operates? Companies pay them to generate new leads. If the leads they generate are garbage (every lead generated from any site you've completed is garbage) then a) ARG may not get paid, and b) companies will discontinue their relationships with ARG.

In both cases, ARG is a cash-poor company, operating on the knowledge that they'll continue to be paid by the companies whose leads they generate, and cheap debt. They pay out for leads to their affiliates who promote the zip and email submits you complete based on their belief that they'll get paid.

So, when you generate shitty leads, and then when the economy goes south, ARG is up shit-creek without a paddle. They can't get cheap debt any longer, and your shitty leads limit the new relationships they can build, and decrease the active relationships they have in place.

RolltheStampede

19-06-2009 16:13:30

my leads arent shitty just piss-poor

hawke12

19-06-2009 16:14:34

[quote36211b443e="beerman"]who's good at guessing?

https//mail.activeresponsegroup.com[]https//mail.activeresponsegroup.com[/quote36211b443e]


User Stupid
Pass Sheeple


;)

ploppsdman

19-06-2009 16:24:09

http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090619/ap_on_bi_ge/us_stanford_surrenders_34

A texas billionaire is another case of a humongous con. This whole deal with ARG is another ponzei scheme ... we're never getting anything. Get those NY Attorney General complaints ready.

tp24

19-06-2009 16:55:32

Well, since the world lost half its wealth, I think I can settle for half 8)

tp24

19-06-2009 16:57:14

[quoteb0d587e3aa="ploppsdman"]http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090619/ap_on_bi_ge/us_stanford_surrenders_34

A texas billionaire is another case of a humongous con. This whole deal with ARG is another ponzei scheme ... we're never getting anything. Get those NY Attorney General complaints ready.[/quoteb0d587e3aa]

What about their families? I truly don't have the heart man

michae229

19-06-2009 17:15:16

[quoteafbf442e54="ploppsdman"]http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090619/ap_on_bi_ge/us_stanford_surrenders_34

A texas billionaire is another case of a humongous con. This whole deal with ARG is another ponzei scheme ... we're never getting anything. Get those NY Attorney General complaints ready.[/quoteafbf442e54]

Man that place was up the street from my school my oil and gas teacher lost 250k to that ass hole lmao man he was pissed. I dont know were to find it but his secretary interviewed with GMA and she said he was telling people everything was ok till it was to late.

kinneylamb

19-06-2009 17:47:01

[quote947bb19926="doylnea"]lol, do you have any idea how ARG operates? Companies pay them to generate new leads. If the leads they generate are garbage (every lead generated from any site you've completed is garbage) then a) ARG may not get paid, and b) companies will discontinue their relationships with ARG.

In both cases, ARG is a cash-poor company, operating on the knowledge that they'll continue to be paid by the companies whose leads they generate, and cheap debt. They pay out for leads to their affiliates who promote the zip and email submits you complete based on their belief that they'll get paid.

So, when you generate shitty leads, and then when the economy goes south, ARG is up shit-creek without a paddle. They can't get cheap debt any longer, and your shitty leads limit the new relationships they can build, and decrease the active relationships they have in place.[/quote947bb19926]

yea i really dont see it like that. for many of these companies, incentive marketing is their only way into business to generate any kind of lead besides google

bruman

19-06-2009 17:47:10

[quoteaef23a797f="mariners1999"][quoteaef23a797f="michae229"]

one more thing does brandmana have financial statements that may show if they can even pay us[/sizeaef23a797f][/quoteaef23a797f]

Private company = no financial statements available for us to review


M[/quoteaef23a797f]

D&B is a research company for information on business credit and financial standings. Looking at the overview of things listed it looks like it has everything. They even have one for ARG. Here's the Link[=https//smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductSelection?dunsNumber=0&busName=ACTIVE%20RESPONSE%20GROUP%2C%20INC.&storeId=10001&catalogId=70001&productId=0&address=26%20W%2017TH%20ST%20STE%20900&city=NEW%20YORK&state=NY&zip=100115717&country=US]Link.

kinneylamb

19-06-2009 17:48:01

[quote27509bf7c4="ploppsdman"]http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090619/ap_on_bi_ge/us_stanford_surrenders_34

A texas billionaire is another case of a humongous con. This whole deal with ARG is another ponzei scheme ... we're never getting anything. Get those NY Attorney General complaints ready.[/quote27509bf7c4]
can you not post that in here, that has nothing to do with ARG

michae229

19-06-2009 18:14:21

[quote696eb36cd6="kinneylamb"][quote696eb36cd6="ploppsdman"]http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090619/ap_on_bi_ge/us_stanford_surrenders_34

A texas billionaire is another case of a humongous con. This whole deal with ARG is another ponzei scheme ... we're never getting anything. Get those NY Attorney General complaints ready.[/quote696eb36cd6]
can you not post that in here, that has nothing to do with ARG[/quote696eb36cd6]

he's just trying to show you cant trust companies

oleus

19-06-2009 18:17:33

it's june 19. just curious if anyone here still really thinks there is a chance in hell that they'll see their money this month.

bruman

19-06-2009 18:35:27

[quote9e356b1c87="oleus"]it's june 19. just curious if anyone here still really thinks there is a chance in hell that they'll see their money this month.[/quote9e356b1c87]

Well knowing ARG if they are going to ship in June the last week here would be the most likely time for that to happen. We saw some certified letters going out for the audit of the certificates last week, which implies some kind of progress or moving forward. I'm skeptical as well but you can't make the claim that we won't see anything in June when it's not even 2/3rds over with. I doubt there's going to be any notification before that besides what the CS reps are saying which is your status will turn to shipped.

wiebelhaus03

19-06-2009 19:42:26

[quotea98e6eb559="kinneylamb"]yea i really dont see it like that. for many of these companies, incentive marketing is their only way into business to generate any kind of lead besides google[/quotea98e6eb559]


.....sorry but this isn't true. We are but a small fraction of their business

kinneylamb

19-06-2009 23:20:50

the offer companies, not netflix, i mean like small obscure ones

RolltheStampede

20-06-2009 08:53:54

[quotedbcf435707="kinneylamb"]the offer companies, not netflix, i mean like small obscure ones[/quotedbcf435707]

if kinney had a dollar for every time he was wrong he could pay us all the money ARG owes us.

DRay9911

20-06-2009 10:17:34

nope

i've been waiting 15 months [feb 08] for a $600 amex card. i sat back and watch 2008 roll by and jumped through the mpell hoop in january.

not sure what it's going to take for them to send out what we have qualified for...but whatever it is, it hasn't happened yet.

-dan



[quote2f92c9c8e1="oleus"]it's june 19. just curious if anyone here still really thinks there is a chance in hell that they'll see their money this month.[/quote2f92c9c8e1]

kinneylamb

20-06-2009 13:32:51

whats taking so long

dougp70

20-06-2009 16:29:37

If any of us knew that, then there would be no need for this forum.

orangejuice

20-06-2009 17:29:51

Guess what, you ain't going to get that gift card either! write it off!

dougp70

21-06-2009 19:53:15

Another day without any new info or interesting conversation. Then again, it is Sunday. Well guys, Happy fathers Day!

slambam

21-06-2009 20:11:23

Check will start tomorrow. Mark it down.

dougp70

21-06-2009 21:50:13

Mark it down? I think I can remember to check my mailbox. Thanks though!

chewy

22-06-2009 09:15:54

[quote01fd137743="slambam"]Check will start tomorrow. Mark it down.[/quote01fd137743]

? ?

Eeyore

22-06-2009 11:00:45

[quote80c5a4a651="RolltheStampede"][quote80c5a4a651="kinneylamb"]the offer companies, not netflix, i mean like small obscure ones[/quote80c5a4a651]

if kinney had a dollar for every time he was wrong he could pay us all the money ARG owes us.[/quote80c5a4a651]
Post of the month! lol

ohboyitsryan

22-06-2009 16:16:27

what the fuck is up with all these ambiguous statements?

dougp70

22-06-2009 17:19:19

Another Monday has come and gone. Round one.....FIGHT!

ploppsdman

22-06-2009 17:20:52

They just send me blank responses to my emails now, no words... nothing .. they don't even bother with the copy/paste of "we will send checks when audit is finished."

Admin

23-06-2009 01:40:47

i never suggested that anyone should "trust" ARG. my point is simply that they will either make good on their user payments, or they wont - and no amount of speculation, teeth-gnashing, or making shit up (looking at you kinney) will change that eventual result.

yes i realize some people have managed to get paid but you can bet that by this point any and all goodwill left in people reachable by phone is gone and your odds are pretty long.

i can't believe i'm still posting in this thread

box86rowh

23-06-2009 06:52:52

[quote213a7f9c25="Admin"]i never suggested that anyone should "trust" ARG. my point is simply that they will either make good on their user payments, or they wont - and no amount of speculation, teeth-gnashing, or making shit up (looking at you kinney) will change that eventual result.

yes i realize some people have managed to get paid but you can bet that by this point any and all goodwill left in people reachable by phone is gone and your odds are pretty long.

i can't believe i'm still posting in this thread[/quote213a7f9c25]

I can't believe anyone is still posting in this thread...

oleus

23-06-2009 07:27:52

if we hadn't gotten our hopes up on this "we're getting paid in june" nonsense it might be different.

GMoneyPuto69

23-06-2009 08:13:30

Got paid today!! WOOT TOO EXCITED!!

PS600REVX

23-06-2009 08:20:15

[quoteae7d74727e="GMoneyPuto69"]Got paid today!! WOOT TOO EXCITED!![/quoteae7d74727e]

why start trouble man?? there are already too many sensitive people here, most of them transformed by ARG, and then you come in and lie to intentionally stir them up, not cool!

Eeyore

23-06-2009 08:41:56

[quotebb4b9f94a6="GMoneyPuto69"]Got paid today!! WOOT TOO EXCITED!![/quotebb4b9f94a6]
You waited over two years to post [bbb4b9f94a6]that[/bbb4b9f94a6]?

DRay9911

23-06-2009 09:15:25

i can't believe anyone has that movie as their avatar.

-dan



[quote9a7f991fdf="box86rowh"][quote9a7f991fdf="Admin"]i never suggested that anyone should "trust" ARG. my point is simply that they will either make good on their user payments, or they wont - and no amount of speculation, teeth-gnashing, or making shit up (looking at you kinney) will change that eventual result.

yes i realize some people have managed to get paid but you can bet that by this point any and all goodwill left in people reachable by phone is gone and your odds are pretty long.

i can't believe i'm still posting in this thread[/quote9a7f991fdf]

I can't believe anyone is still posting in this thread...[/quote9a7f991fdf]

RolltheStampede

23-06-2009 10:16:32

[quote7a6a4f5677="GMoneyPuto69"]Got paid today!! WOOT TOO EXCITED!![/quote7a6a4f5677]

And I get paid on Wednesday but that is besides the point when is brandarama going to send out our checks.



Here is something funny though I got one of those scammer checks in the mail yesterday. the ones that say cash it and western union the rest to these people. for like 3500.

Who do i report this to anyway.

Oh yeah and it had to be Ideal that gave my info out because that was the only site I did at the address that it came from

kinneylamb

23-06-2009 10:46:44

[quote15626df313="Admin"]i never suggested that anyone should "trust" ARG. my point is simply that they will either make good on their user payments, or they wont - and no amount of speculation, teeth-gnashing, or making shit up (looking at you kinney) will change that eventual result.

yes i realize some people have managed to get paid but you can bet that by this point any and all goodwill left in people reachable by phone is gone and your odds are pretty long.

i can't believe i'm still posting in this thread[/quote15626df313]
i'm looking at you with an ugly stare

box86rowh

23-06-2009 11:47:28

[quote7033449951="DRay9911"]i can't believe anyone has that movie as their avatar.

-dan



[quote7033449951="box86rowh"][quote7033449951="Admin"]i never suggested that anyone should "trust" ARG. my point is simply that they will either make good on their user payments, or they wont - and no amount of speculation, teeth-gnashing, or making shit up (looking at you kinney) will change that eventual result.

yes i realize some people have managed to get paid but you can bet that by this point any and all goodwill left in people reachable by phone is gone and your odds are pretty long.

i can't believe i'm still posting in this thread[/quote7033449951]

I can't believe anyone is still posting in this thread...[/quote7033449951][/quote7033449951]

Come on man....it wasn't that bad... roll

RolltheStampede

23-06-2009 12:29:26

YOU STOOD THERE AND WATCHED AS THEY RAPED INDIANA JONES!!!

ploppsdman

23-06-2009 12:59:58

Time to get things together for a NY Attorney General complaint ....

Eeyore

23-06-2009 13:45:31

[quotea8f8cb0f09="RolltheStampede"]
Who do i report this to anyway.
[/quotea8f8cb0f09]
FBI

zr2152

23-06-2009 14:55:08

[quote2ba4559a8d="Eeyore"][quote2ba4559a8d="RolltheStampede"]
Who do i report this to anyway.
[/quote2ba4559a8d]
FBI[/quote2ba4559a8d]


YEah call your local FBI office. That's what I did..not that they can do much anyways. All they do is tell you to rip it up and throw it away.

Eeyore

23-06-2009 14:56:40

They mostly just track where they come from. The last one I got originated in Canada.

beerman

23-06-2009 15:40:41

A relevant post.....

From Me
Are they finished with the audit yet?
Thanks,me



Dear me,

Thank you for contacting us.

No.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support

RolltheStampede

23-06-2009 16:02:35

the next relevant response should come on july 1st from bruman asking them why they lied about sending checks in june, or atleast his check.

I say he gets his by August the rest of us are screwed

bruman

23-06-2009 16:31:03

If I don't go shipped this week they'll definitely be hearing from me.

slambam

23-06-2009 19:05:51

[quotefaf6c310e4="zr2152"][quotefaf6c310e4="Eeyore"][quotefaf6c310e4="RolltheStampede"]
Who do i report this to anyway.
[/quotefaf6c310e4]
FBI[/quotefaf6c310e4]


YEah call your local FBI office. That's what I did..not that they can do much anyways. All they do is tell you to rip it up and throw it away.[/quotefaf6c310e4]

Some banks/credit unions use them for training purposes if you want to give it to them, otherwise just shred it. FBI is worthless when it comes to these checks. These scammers move all over North America and by the time the FBI does track them down, they're long gone and there onto another scam in another place.

kinneylamb

24-06-2009 11:10:29

lol the FBI is hardly worthless. at least if you report it, they have a lead. something to look at. maybe down the road they'll catch em one day.

and yea anytime i heard someone get a western union scam letter, it originated from canada.

oleus

24-06-2009 11:20:12

t-minus 7 days until july. audit still going. what a crock.

slambam

24-06-2009 16:03:19

[quotefded61ae96="kinneylamb"]lol the FBI is hardly worthless. at least if you report it, they have a lead. something to look at. maybe down the road they'll catch em one day.

and yea anytime i heard someone get a western union scam letter, it originated from canada.[/quotefded61ae96]

When it comes to these checks, yes, they are pretty much worthless. If they would catch people, the checks would be practically nonexistant. But, they don't catch people so nobody fears getting caught, so why would they stop?

fbskiracer

25-06-2009 05:06:40

[quote7ce3fbdbdf="sandra habina"]I just got one today - DQ letter and it was certified.

Came from Active Response Group
mailed June 11, 2009 first class from 10011 $3.24 postage

They sent back my paperwork with a sticky tab on it with LATE on it.

My ARG issued 2/16/09 certified sent in on 3/17/09 which is 30 days.

?????[/quote7ce3fbdbdf]

I'm only saying this because noone else did. Since I just counted it. Thats 30 days in the WORST case scenario (counting 2/16 and 3/17). Is ARG that ridiculous that they don't realize 1) February only has 28 days and 2) How to count to 30?

JANGALANG32

25-06-2009 06:32:02

[quote47bf5a3e91="fbskiracer"][quote47bf5a3e91="sandra habina"]I just got one today - DQ letter and it was certified.

Came from Active Response Group
mailed June 11, 2009 first class from 10011 $3.24 postage

They sent back my paperwork with a sticky tab on it with LATE on it.

My ARG issued 2/16/09 certified sent in on 3/17/09 which is 30 days.

?????[/quote47bf5a3e91]

I'm only saying this because noone else did. Since I just counted it. Thats 30 days in the WORST case scenario (counting 2/16 and 3/17). Is ARG that ridiculous that they don't realize 1) February only has 28 days and 2) How to count to 30?[/quote47bf5a3e91]

haha, mpell tried to disqualify me for the same thing. they thought the same day in the next month meant 30 days but they were too dumb to realize feb. only has 28 days! i pointed it out to them and they said sorry and processed my forms

manOFice

25-06-2009 07:39:24

[quoteae6750e886="JANGALANG32"][quoteae6750e886="fbskiracer"][quoteae6750e886="sandra habina"]I just got one today - DQ letter and it was certified.

Came from Active Response Group
mailed June 11, 2009 first class from 10011 $3.24 postage

They sent back my paperwork with a sticky tab on it with LATE on it.

My ARG issued 2/16/09 certified sent in on 3/17/09 which is 30 days.

?????[/quoteae6750e886]

I'm only saying this because noone else did. Since I just counted it. Thats 30 days in the WORST case scenario (counting 2/16 and 3/17). Is ARG that ridiculous that they don't realize 1) February only has 28 days and 2) How to count to 30?[/quoteae6750e886]

haha, mpell tried to disqualify me for the same thing. they thought the same day in the next month meant 30 days but they were too dumb to realize feb. only has 28 days! i pointed it out to them and they said sorry and processed my forms[/quoteae6750e886]

lol lol lol lol lol

ploppsdman

25-06-2009 11:23:04

I guess we should start a role call for who is going the NY Attorney General route ....

1. ploppsdman

PS600REVX

25-06-2009 11:43:08

Myself and 2 friends will be filling out the complaints if nothing happens by 7/15 (just a day we came up with that really means nothing)

DRay9911

25-06-2009 12:21:04

i got paid today!!!!!!!!!































it's payday at work D

michae229

25-06-2009 12:40:11

[quotea728964c63="DRay9911"]i got paid today!!!!!!!!!































it's payday at work D[/quotea728964c63]

LMAO

slambam

25-06-2009 16:17:40

ohboyitsryan, so did you pay them a visit or what?

ohboyitsryan

25-06-2009 17:16:23

[quote1a63f2d90d="slambam"]ohboyitsryan, so did you pay them a visit or what?[/quote1a63f2d90d]

check your pm

Zags1199

25-06-2009 17:32:31

You're shy suddenly?

oleus

25-06-2009 17:35:19

yeah i'm curious too about ryan's potential visit.

beerman

25-06-2009 17:46:29

[quote40b39016b7="ohboyitsryan"]

you gotta love the uninformative and vague posts which have frequented the board. it probably would have served you better to just post when you received something...unless you truly wanted an inbox full of questions.[/quote40b39016b7]

well put....did you go or not?

ohboyitsryan

25-06-2009 20:33:15

[quotee8d757fdd2="Zags1199"]You're shy suddenly?[/quotee8d757fdd2]

not shy...just smart. something i picked up at ucla...what was your us news ranking this year?

don't worry though, zaga has an alright looking campus...sorry for making adam morrison cry though =/

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt0VUSyVIr4






...kidding, of course.

Zags1199

25-06-2009 20:46:20

Uh...yeah, that's relevant to my simple posing of a question.

ghounds07

25-06-2009 23:56:01

guys i came up with a new idea for a forum where we only send private messages instead of making forums posts. way more secure and legit than all this public stuff.

pm is the new post.


on a side note if he's already gone i bet they just told him to keep quiet about it. hopefully i get paid soon, brad is such a fucking moron how did he become CEO of this company?

ohboyitsryan

26-06-2009 00:53:59

[quotee54cd296ee="Zags1199"]Uh...yeah, that's relevant to my simple posing of a question.[/quotee54cd296ee]

just firing back for you calling me out earlier...

don't trip tho, man...I'm just messing with you

ohboyitsryan

26-06-2009 00:57:26

[quotee07730d1ac="ghounds07"]guys i came up with a new idea for a forum where we only send private messages instead of making forums posts. way more secure and legit than all this public stuff.

pm is the new post.


on a side note if he's already gone i bet they just told him to keep quiet about it. hopefully i get paid soon, brad is such a fucking moron how did he become CEO of this company?[/quotee07730d1ac]

unfortunately that's how things gotta be right now. their company is all over the forums. can't freely post like we used to be able to...

kinneylamb

26-06-2009 02:24:18

why is it that when somebody gets close to brandarama, by phone or in person, they are suddenly quiet.

it's not like they got paid or anything!! i'm willing to bet they got tortured or hypnotized

manOFice

26-06-2009 02:52:24

when I got paid I was not told to "be quiet" or "don't talk about this on the forums"

sexualintellectual

26-06-2009 05:41:52

This is ridiculous... now all of a sudden we are being watched by the Brandarama gestapo? Which makes Brad Powers... Hitler.

Oh my god, I just read on the internet that Brad Powers is Hitler! It must be true!

oleus

26-06-2009 06:17:33

i vote against PM-only boards.

they'd be getting exactly what they wanted.

so they can spend time scouring these boards, instead of getting to the real work of paying us?

even though the posts would be private, important info would be limited to the regulars who come here to read what people have to say.

this is beginning to get infuriating. i guess the only way for them to actually give us money is a trip to NYC?

jasonatsmtc

26-06-2009 06:55:17

OK, Ill bite, please pm me with the details of the NY trip.

ohboyitsryan

26-06-2009 07:35:36

damn pm overload. anyways for the record, I went to ARG. went to their floor, talked to the recep to try to make an appt with Priyanka, no dice there cuz she was 'out'. left my number. talked to brad on the phone shortly after, he told me to email him my info naturally. got a call back within the hour from corporate and someone said my gift had been expedited and I should have it in 2-4 weeks.

didn't want to gas any of you up or have you hold on to the 2-4 week window so I didn't want to say anything until I actually received something or had more info for you. I'll keep you updated. it's not that I didn't want to post cuz arg told me not to, just didn't want to create false hope for anyone.

box86rowh

26-06-2009 07:40:56

it was a tactic used to get rid of you...

oleus

26-06-2009 07:42:00

thanks for the info ryan.

so, it seems like outside of actually physically going to ARG and asking for priyanka/brad, you can't get on the expedited list (expedited still meaning july-august when we were told by Mpell it would be April).

why would anyone NOT file a NY Attorney General complaint now?

ohboyitsryan

26-06-2009 07:45:45

[quote3dc7658034="box86rowh"]it was a tactic used to get rid of you...[/quote3dc7658034]

yep, I couldn't press the issue either, had to try hard to not make a scene or I coulda fucked it all up for myself

ashilef

26-06-2009 07:49:08

If anything they're probably nervous more ppl will show up at their offices. That's all good for you if you get your money in 2-4 weeks, but it doesn't do anything for me... I mean is it really gonna take us going down there and getting in their faces for us to get our cash? Not everyone has the plans or the ends to go NY.

ohboyitsryan

26-06-2009 07:51:01

[quotef4816d63ac="oleus"]thanks for the info ryan.

so, it seems like outside of actually physically going to ARG and asking for priyanka/brad, you can't get on the expedited list (expedited still meaning july-august when we were told by Mpell it would be April).

why would anyone NOT file a NY Attorney General complaint now?[/quotef4816d63ac]

yeah it's a real messed up situation. I just couldn't take it anymore and had to at least try to go do something, and my business trip to NY was a nice coincidence

ohboyitsryan

26-06-2009 07:56:08

[quote43feffcd08="ashilef"]If anything they're probably nervous more ppl will show up at their offices. That's all good for you if you get your money in 2-4 weeks, but it doesn't do anything for me... I mean is it really gonna take us going down there and getting in their faces for us to get our cash? Not everyone has the plans or the ends to go NY.[/quote43feffcd08]

and that's the reason why I didn't come out and say anything because the info doesn't really have bearing on everyones accounts, and I'm not sure if 2-4 weeks applies to all accounts.

oleus

26-06-2009 08:50:00

well FWIW, in an extended email correspondence from a month or two ago, they told me they'd be adding me to the "expedited list" too but after following up on it i still get the standard cut-and-paste response so this list may not exist, or if it does they may have just been telling me that to get me to stop emailing them.

PS600REVX

26-06-2009 08:51:47

everyone just needs to start filling out the NY AG complaints. Short form and doesn't take long at all and when they receive enough, ARG will be investigated.

oleus

26-06-2009 09:40:33

[quote2efc69d321="PS600REVX"]everyone just needs to start filling out the NY AG complaints. Short form and doesn't take long at all and when they receive enough, ARG will be investigated.[/quote2efc69d321]

what he said.

let's roll.

tylerc

26-06-2009 10:23:54

What complaint is everyone filing?

imapepper

26-06-2009 11:27:03

Im in Manhattan every weekday 8am to 6pm I should stop by myself and speak to Brad.

Armstrong

26-06-2009 11:50:14

can one be posted here and I'll mail it in? Im in GA.

PS600REVX

26-06-2009 11:57:10

NY AG
http//www.oag.state.ny.us/bureaus/internet_bureau/internet_complaint.pdf

orangejuice

26-06-2009 12:03:53

I'm going to go up there myself, and i'll bring a $100 bottle of wine for priyanka

oleus

26-06-2009 13:22:50

[quotec2566608a7="orangejuice"]I'm going to go up there myself, and i'll bring a $100 bottle of wine for priyanka[/quotec2566608a7]

say hi to her for everyone.

In the meantime I would encourage everyone who cares to click that link and file a complaint. Don't exaggerate or fly into hysterics. Just describe everything that's happened but be sure to accurately describe the mpell switcheroo. IMHO this is a bait and switch ponzi operation, textbook example. They paid lots of us in the past which is why so many of us complied. They had us on the hook. We may not get our money but I feel laws were broken and now the ny ag can decide.

slambam

26-06-2009 16:20:11

No doubt. Don't get me wrong, I want my money. But if we don't get our money, we better shut these morons down. Or at least fuck them up pretty good.

ghounds07

26-06-2009 17:52:07

[quotef58177f6fa="orangejuice"]I'm going to go up there myself, and i'll bring a $100 bottle of wine for priyanka[/quotef58177f6fa]

on the way there buy a fake gucci purse and bring that to her too...seems she likes purses, and from what I gather she's stupid so she won't be able to tell the difference.

orangejuice

26-06-2009 18:37:18

well i dont think we have to worry, if they leave their doors open like that for someone to go in, if they dont pay..im sure someone will do something lol

Eeyore

26-06-2009 19:51:55

[quotea6b28aae65="orangejuice"]I'm going to go up there myself, and i'll bring a $100 bottle of wine for priyanka[/quotea6b28aae65]
Hand her a cash-back certificate for a $500 bottle of wine and have her go buy it herself.

dougp70

26-06-2009 21:26:25

[quote4fac5296fa="Eeyore"][quote4fac5296fa="orangejuice"]I'm going to go up there myself, and i'll bring a $100 bottle of wine for priyanka[/quote4fac5296fa]
Hand her a cash-back certificate for a $500 bottle of wine and have her go buy it herself.[/quote4fac5296fa]

Priceless.

oleus

26-06-2009 23:40:57

[quotede8346ede7="dougp70"][quotede8346ede7="Eeyore"][quotede8346ede7="orangejuice"]I'm going to go up there myself, and i'll bring a $100 bottle of wine for priyanka[/quotede8346ede7]
Hand her a cash-back certificate for a $500 bottle of wine and have her go buy it herself.[/quotede8346ede7]

Priceless.[/quotede8346ede7]

pricelessly funny because it's true.


what they did to us is criminal and mpell was complicit.


mpell's very direct responses to some of us during this whole fiasco was a warning sign some seemed to ignore, but it's clear this was a completely unethical and potentially illegal turn of events.

oleus

27-06-2009 07:26:59

PS - i just sent MPELL an email describing exactly what I included about them in my NY AG complaint. There is no way of telling the full story without explaining their involvement. Funny how they got this ball rollng and were mysteriously removed from the process, with ARG subsequently doing what they supposedly hired Mpell to do. Why would they hire someone to process receipts and then end up re-doing it all themselves?

ghounds07

27-06-2009 09:11:26

so they could weed some people out first.

oleus

27-06-2009 11:21:15

[quotedef296b768="ghounds07"]so they could weed some people out first.[/quotedef296b768]

of course. I was stating the question rhetorically in regards to presenting it in my ag complaint.

They weeded people out and still aren't paying. Hell - they told a person who took the trouble to go in person that their "expidited" check was still a month off. Even if that was true where does that leave the rest of us ?

Why not cut Ryan a check right then ? They owed him the money and he was right there .

zr2152

27-06-2009 12:12:43

[quote6b989bf110="oleus"][quote6b989bf110="ghounds07"]so they could weed some people out first.[/quote6b989bf110]

of course. I was stating the question rhetorically in regards to presenting it in my ag complaint.

They weeded people out and still aren't paying. Hell - they told a person who took the trouble to go in person that their "expidited" check was still a month off. Even if that was true where does that leave the rest of us ?

Why not cut Ryan a check right then ? They owed him the money and he was right there .[/quote6b989bf110]

Yeah if they're broke they could have at least saved the price of a stamp/envelope.

slambam

27-06-2009 22:42:40

[quote35b8a5cf75="zr2152"]
Yeah if they're broke they could have at least saved the price of a stamp/envelope.[/quote35b8a5cf75]

Yea, but it probably woulda cost the goons an NSF charge, and he'd still be waiting for his payment.

wes

29-06-2009 10:53:48

Didn't someone mention a Ponzi Scheme a while back? Someone should email this to Brad Powers and ask him if he wants a rectal expansion.

http//www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/business/30madoff.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

zr2152

29-06-2009 12:15:12

[quotee7973f507b="wes"]Didn't someone mention a Ponzi Scheme a while back? Someone should email this to Brad Powers and ask him if he wants a rectal expansion.

http//www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/business/30madoff.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1[/quotee7973f507b]


Yeah but this guy STOLE billions of dollars from investors I believe.

PS600REVX

29-06-2009 12:42:09

[quotef95a68300b="zr2152"][quotef95a68300b="wes"]Didn't someone mention a Ponzi Scheme a while back? Someone should email this to Brad Powers and ask him if he wants a rectal expansion.

http//www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/business/30madoff.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1[/quotef95a68300b]


Yeah but this guy STOLE billions of dollars from investors I believe.[/quotef95a68300b]

I hope you are being sarcastic. Who doesn't know exactly who Madoff is??

ploppsdman

29-06-2009 23:13:15

So much for June. Time to go the NY Attorney General route ....

ploppsdman

29-06-2009 23:21:57

Has anyone filed an FTC complaint?

ohboyitsryan

29-06-2009 23:54:44

[quote1ce920432d="prizejunkie"]lol you are not going to do anything, what a joke...[/quote1ce920432d]

how did your small claims filing go?

mjforever

30-06-2009 06:41:59

[quote247fc63d73="ploppsdman"]Has anyone filed an FTC complaint?[/quote247fc63d73]


Do you have the link? I like to file an FTC complaint.

Eeyore

30-06-2009 08:40:12

https//www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

mjforever

30-06-2009 10:27:24

[quote7dc58217a2="Eeyore"]https//www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/[/quote7dc58217a2]


Thank you.

oleus

30-06-2009 10:47:16

Ny attorney general complaint just sent off certified.

bennyboy5768

30-06-2009 14:48:52

Just submitted my FTC claim from their website. ARG and Mpell were listed on my claim. I just hope the FTC can do something about it.

Eeyore

30-06-2009 16:46:11

As they say on the website, the FTC does not do any individual case enforcement...they collect information that is used by other agencies. If you file with the NY or CA AG it is worthwhile to also file with the FTC and reference that filing in your state complaint.

mweiss

01-07-2009 04:29:41

I emailed brandarama for an update and after 3 emails going back and forth begging to receive a human response, I received this..

"When the audit is finished the checks will be mailed out. I do not have a time lime on this."

Are they still seriosuly doing audits?

FreeOffersNow

01-07-2009 06:13:07

[quote79bf217d2a="mweiss"]I emailed brandarama for an update and after 3 emails going back and forth begging to receive a human response, I received this..

"When the audit is finished the checks will be mailed out. I do not have a time lime on this."

Are they still seriosuly doing audits?[/quote79bf217d2a]

No...they just think it sounds reasonable.

prizejunkie

01-07-2009 06:47:31

[quote011a830fa2="ohboyitsryan"][quote011a830fa2="prizejunkie"]lol you are not going to do anything, what a joke...[/quote011a830fa2]

how did your small claims filing go?[/quote011a830fa2]

Sent the papes in a few days ago, someone on here sent me a copy of an mpell cert. Next step I'll get a court date, I'm sure they'll just settle.

oleus

01-07-2009 06:48:04

plus - what the hell could they still be auditing?

hawke12

01-07-2009 07:10:28

Well, I just got it from one of my Affiliate managers that they have pulled all ARG a.k.a. Brandarama, Yourtopbrands, etc. Offers from the network, and that ARG Filed for Bankruptcy Yesterday.

I don't know where to look for those filings to verify this, or how long it would take for the paperwork to become public. My AM got a memo from ARG themselves apparently.

So if anyone knows where to look and could investigate this a little more it would be appreciated.

oleus

01-07-2009 07:34:11

if true - game over, right? no one get paid and we have no recourse, correct?

JANGALANG32

01-07-2009 07:40:14

[quote23303bcfc6="hawke12"]Well, I just got it from one of my Affiliate managers that they have pulled all ARG a.k.a. Brandarama, Yourtopbrands, etc. Offers from the network, and that ARG Filed for Bankruptcy Yesterday.

I don't know where to look for those filings to verify this, or how long it would take for the paperwork to become public. My AM got a memo from ARG themselves apparently.

So if anyone knows where to look and could investigate this a little more it would be appreciated.[/quote23303bcfc6]

this should be of no surprise to everyone...good thing i returned all my purchases. oh well, at least i will have a nice tax write off

prizejunkie

01-07-2009 07:41:50

can someone confirm this

prizejunkie

01-07-2009 07:43:32

[quotefb3f840333="JANGALANG32"][quotefb3f840333="hawke12"]Well, I just got it from one of my Affiliate managers that they have pulled all ARG a.k.a. Brandarama, Yourtopbrands, etc. Offers from the network, and that ARG Filed for Bankruptcy Yesterday.

I don't know where to look for those filings to verify this, or how long it would take for the paperwork to become public. My AM got a memo from ARG themselves apparently.

So if anyone knows where to look and could investigate this a little more it would be appreciated.[/quotefb3f840333]

this should be of no surprise to everyone...good thing i returned all my purchases. oh well, at least i will have a nice tax write off[/quotefb3f840333]


Yea I'm glad I returned all my shit too

oleus

01-07-2009 07:46:48

i'm glad i bought stuff i needed/was going to buy anyway, but still, this stinks. i hope these criminals don't land on their feet and have a hard time finding work.

RyanG

01-07-2009 07:49:36

[quoteddb1edc224="oleus"]if true - game over, right? no one get paid and we have no recourse, correct?[/quoteddb1edc224]

Correct.

Should of returned the stuff. This is going to be a painful debt to pay off.

box86rowh

01-07-2009 07:50:57

No news on Google...but that doesn't mean anything I guess....

oleus

01-07-2009 09:10:07

maybe now the crappy customer service might feel our pain, since they probably won't get paid either. if this is true...

they were probably already paid but it would be great if MPell didn't get paid either...

Eeyore

01-07-2009 09:47:38

If ARG did indeed go BK then Mpell is in an even worse position than they were before.

Time to unleash the hounds either way...it's July.

PS600REVX

01-07-2009 10:04:43

Sherry answered an e-mail and she is unaware. Not that it means anything as they don't tell her squat anyhow but I have not found anything on the internet. Still not convinced this is true.

RyanG

01-07-2009 10:19:17

You would think if they filed, they'd have to start taking down their sites at least. Looks like you can still do offers...

mariners1999

01-07-2009 10:22:08

[quote87a22d13a5="box86rowh"]No news on Google...but that doesn't mean anything I guess....[/quote87a22d13a5]

I called the VCIS number for the Bankruptcy court of southern New York. That would be my best guess as to where they would file but they really could file about anywhere. There was no record found with their TIN or name.

Does not mean they are not going to file just that as of today there is no record of a filing in NY NY for Active Response Group.

M

hawke12

01-07-2009 10:24:59

As far as I'm aware. you don't have to do anything, until it goes to court and the judge makes an order, but I'm not a lawyer, so I can't say for sure.

Like I said. I don't know where to look to verify any of this...all I know is that the network pulled all their offer's, and my AM sent an email saying they would cover any pending payments for their offers, Despite them filing bankruptcy. This also supposedly happened yesterday, so I doubt it would be "Official" or even posted for sometime.

I just thought I'd pass the info along, for those that might know how to dig for this kind of stuff....

zr2152

01-07-2009 10:47:49

I won't believe they are bankrupt until I see it online somewhere.

http//www.herculestech.com/portfolio/portfolio.asp?CompanyID=12789&IndustryID=0

http//www.activeresponsegroup.com/

I know that these are not truly significant but they are still kicking. Maybe their incentive side will be done but ARG is not going bankrupt.

oleus

01-07-2009 10:49:13

if it is true, this covers them from having to address any small claim court filing as well, correct?

so all the money they owed people just disappears, huh?

zr2152

01-07-2009 11:31:14

ARG is not bankrupt...stock is selling still. Maybe someone should comment on what that means for a company that is supposedly going bankrupt but stock is still selling..

To me that means no one is going bankrupt but I don't know much about that stuff.

oleus

01-07-2009 11:38:40

to me, it still means they owe me almost 4 grand.

prizejunkie

01-07-2009 11:40:35

they are a public company?

zr2152

01-07-2009 11:58:33

[quote2d851f2835="prizejunkie"]they are a public company?[/quote2d851f2835]

I feel like everyone is mixing up ARG with Yourtopbrands and what not. The incentive side of ARG is not ARG as a whole. They do incentive leads but they also do non incentive leads, I believe.

They are way to large to just be incentive based.

jtreeder

01-07-2009 12:11:00

[quote6f1a0f912b="mweiss"]I emailed brandarama for an update and after 3 emails going back and forth begging to receive a human response, I received this..

"When the audit is finished the checks will be mailed out. I do not have a time lime on this."

Are they still seriosuly doing audits?[/quote6f1a0f912b]

I just got the same email word for word. (

mariners1999

01-07-2009 12:17:14

[quoted8cf99151e="prizejunkie"]they are a public company?[/quoted8cf99151e]

[bd8cf99151e]NO[/bd8cf99151e]

They are not a public company.

Their "stock" is not sold on any of the major markets.

They prob have stock that is issued privately since they are a nice sized company.

FYI even when a company is "bankrupt" their stock still does trade for a few days on the major exchanges and then it will trade on the pink sheets.

M

RolltheStampede

01-07-2009 12:41:58

Man dont you feel like CLark Griswold form "Vacation" when they get to the theme park and find out its closed.

"Sorry, folks! We're closed for two weeks to clean and repair America's favorite family fun park. Sorry, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh!"
http//z.hubpages.com/u/412689_f520.jpg[" alt=""/img6758e5e778]


Time yo highjack some security guards and have some fun till the swat team arrives.

oleus

01-07-2009 12:49:19

i'll always wonder whether there was really any kind of re-audit by ARG or if that was just all BS like the rest of what they say...

RolltheStampede

01-07-2009 13:31:00

Bruman did they respond back to you about your check shipping or not shipping?

tp24

01-07-2009 13:33:11

[quote26caea281c]

"Sorry, folks! We're closed for two weeks to clean and repair America's favorite family fun park. Sorry, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh!"
http//z.hubpages.com/u/412689_f520.jpg[" alt=""/img26caea281c]


[/quote26caea281c]

After camping out for a week at the gate. We want blood, damn it twisted

PS600REVX

01-07-2009 13:42:05

[quote693055ff62="RolltheStampede"]Bruman did they respond back to you about your check shipping or not shipping?[/quote693055ff62]

Ya, Bruman usually posts like crazy and it's been awhile. Any updates?

oleus

01-07-2009 13:49:32

due to overwhelming response, as well as discrepancies with his posts, he had to lay low for a while.

bruman

01-07-2009 14:47:24

[quote748c068362="RolltheStampede"]Bruman did they respond back to you about your check shipping or not shipping?[/quote748c068362]

No.. I was supposed to go shipped the last week of June but that never happened. I haven't received a response from them yet- seems like they're being a bit more dodgy now. Definitely not going to give up though, I'm gonna keep on them.

And if the bankruptcy rumor is true and the result of that is a clearing of all debt for ARG to us, than that's sickening. For a company that (if this is true) was apparently already on the edge of bankruptcy to tell ALL their customers to go out and essentially create their own debt with the promise that they'll be reimbursed for it-- and then break the promise, NOT send the reimbursements out and then declare bankruptcy themselves.. that's ridiculous. Not only did they bring their own ship down but they attempted to bring every one who ever completed one of their sites down with them. I hope that's not what's going on. I guess we'll have to wait and see though.

dubbin87

01-07-2009 15:50:21

lol

lunchclerk

01-07-2009 16:17:21

Has any one been able to find Brandarama sites other than the ones you have already saved under your member account? Before I could do a search for bradarama.com.sites or yourtopbrand.com.site and find alot of different sites do complete. Just know I couldn't see any. Maybe they have taken down the sites.

beerman

01-07-2009 16:24:34

google "sitewww.brandarama.com"

lunchclerk

01-07-2009 16:26:34

Thanks!! Sorry about the mix up.

RolltheStampede

01-07-2009 16:48:55

It just sucks cause i had one of my friends do it and he never even recieved a single gift.
He did the scholarship and the visa.

suburbangirl

01-07-2009 16:57:00

I checked NY and DE bankruptcy courts. There have been no filings yet in either court.

mistertomlinson

02-07-2009 05:34:50

[quotef729c035ec="RolltheStampede"]It just sucks cause i had one of my friends do it and he never even recieved a single gift.
He did the scholarship and the visa.[/quotef729c035ec]

I got a friend of mine to do a site too and the poor bastard went out and bought a $2,000 fridge with his credit card per MPELL's instruction and has no way to pay it back. I kinda feel somewhat responsible for it.

janarae

02-07-2009 05:47:17

[quote976c3b5431="JANGALANG32"][quote976c3b5431="hawke12"]Well, I just got it from one of my Affiliate managers that they have pulled all ARG a.k.a. Brandarama, Yourtopbrands, etc. Offers from the network, and that ARG Filed for Bankruptcy Yesterday.

I don't know where to look for those filings to verify this, or how long it would take for the paperwork to become public. My AM got a memo from ARG themselves apparently.

So if anyone knows where to look and could investigate this a little more it would be appreciated.[/quote976c3b5431]

this should be of no surprise to everyone...good thing i returned all my purchases. oh well, at least i will have a nice tax write off[/quote976c3b5431]

How do you write this off on your taxes??

oleus

02-07-2009 07:15:16

my friend from work who got into several YTB offers decided against the mpell route, even after i tried talking him into it (remember when it seemed like it was legit?). he is smarter than me apparently.

bryanvanalmkerk

02-07-2009 07:40:42

Hey
Official word is that they are closing. I just talked to a rep there.

No ones getting paid.

oleus

02-07-2009 07:43:40

[quote9b9bbfce8d="bryanvanalmkerk"]Hey
Official word is that they are closing. I just talked to a rep there.

No ones getting paid.[/quote9b9bbfce8d]

so...why in the hell did they have us go spend our own money on items they probably knew they would never reimburse us for? was it just to get debt off the books (via the people who didn't fall for the mpell letter), and if so i wonder if there was something specifically criminal that occurred that filing for bankruptcy won't shield them from.

Fresh, everytime.

what a joke.

bryanvanalmkerk

02-07-2009 08:16:54

Yea, im not sure whats going on. We marketed their zip/email submits and they currently owe us over 10k just for that. So we found out today they are closing, the rep we dealt with left and they have little to no intention of paying anyone.

oleus

02-07-2009 08:24:04

hopefully the list of people they owe money to includes people with more "juice" than the mpell certificate people like us have.

if anyone finds a specific link/story/info on this it would be great. I need to send an update to my NY AG complaint, as well as get my CA AG complaint going against Mpell.

THERE IS NO WAY MPELL CAN JUST DISAPPEAR FROM THIS MESS AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED!

PS - the usual YTB email customer support hasn't answered since tuesday.

RolltheStampede

02-07-2009 09:00:01

i got a reply on wednesday saying we would get paid, LOL

dakare

02-07-2009 09:03:31

I have been trying to check my status on householdsavingsclub.com and I can't even get to the website. I wanted to email and ask a question. Can anyone else get on their site?

indymom

02-07-2009 09:47:12

I just checked housholdsavingsclub.com. I'm still confirmed to ship.

newmomi0329

02-07-2009 10:11:02

[quoteb24c3a5575="indymom"]I just checked housholdsavingsclub.com. I'm still confirmed to ship.[/quoteb24c3a5575]
I have been reading this thread everyday to stay up to date with the Active Response Group situation, as I too, am in the same boat. My wife was never approved of her audit (a loss of $2500 owed), however I was (waiting to collect $1600.) It is so frustarting to see all of this going on. I wanted to let all know that I am able to log onto my account and see that my status is still "confirmed to be shipped". Also, I wanted to add that I am now on the list of individuals who have filed with the Attorney General of New York....complaint form and backup (emails and MPELL Certificates). It's unfortunate that MPELL has gotten wrapped up in all of this as I don't know how they will not be a party involved.

oleus

02-07-2009 10:39:05

Mpell gets really defensive, and sometimes sarcastic and accusatory if you try and ask them anything about this. I have responded by pointing out that not only did their certificates present the situation as them taking over the process, but also that I have emails FROM MPELL SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY STATING THAT THEY HAD COMPLETELY TAKEN OVER FULFILLMENT/REIMBURSEMENT. We went out and spent our own money because of a direct correspondence from Mpell, and after sending in receipts to Mpell. They think that an email attachment from ARG saying that they were taking things back over obsolves them of responsibility, but in light of these recent ARG bankrupcy developments (if true), MPELL is back on the hook as far as I'm concerned.

I really wish I was a lawyer because it sure seems to me that something illegal happened during this while fiasco.

Eeyore

02-07-2009 10:53:54

If all this is true, Mpell has exposure, starting with aiding and abetting an Interstate fraud. They included wording in the cashback certificate attempting to absolve themselves of any responsibility but that would not go far in court. I don't know how much blood is in that turnip but it can't hurt to turn up the heat.

I sent an email to ARG yesterday and Sherry answered that she had not heard of any bankruptcy filing. Of course she would not until her pink slip arrived and her last paycheck bounced.

I notice that Brad gave Hillary Clinton's campaign $2,300 in 2008. Anyone in NY want to call her office and tell her she's taken money from a know fraudster?

oleus

02-07-2009 10:58:39

Bill and Hillary have made their political living accepting money from fraudsters. This wouldn't be the first time.

Crizo

02-07-2009 12:39:31

[quote4c677fc8b1="Eeyore"]If all this is true, Mpell has exposure, starting with aiding and abetting an Interstate fraud. [/quote4c677fc8b1]

This is exactly what I've been saying from the very beginning. MPell is completely screwed, despite their protestations to the contrary.

They know they're wide open to claims which is why they've been so vociferously arguing the contrary since day one.

newmomi0329

02-07-2009 13:27:21

[quote1da0b8568f="Crizo"][quote1da0b8568f="Eeyore"]If all this is true, Mpell has exposure, starting with aiding and abetting an Interstate fraud. [/quote1da0b8568f]

This is exactly what I've been saying from the very beginning. MPell is completely screwed, despite their protestations to the contrary.

They know they're wide open to claims which is why they've been so vociferously arguing the contrary since day one.[/quote1da0b8568f]
As far as I am concerned, MPELL are the people that put me into debt. Hell, I would have continued to call each week about "what month are you guys on now" and would have been happy to be in that boat in hindsight. Now I'm screwed with $1600 dollars sitting on a freakin credit card that I make a monthly payment to. If something doesn't happen with Active Response Group, I'll file complaints with the attorney general against MPELL.

oleus

02-07-2009 14:03:46

is there any reason NOT to file an Attorney General complaint in CA against Mpell now?

tylerc

02-07-2009 14:16:45

Does anyone have a copy of the MPell certificates? Not the letter that came with it signed from ARG's Customer Care teams, the actual certificate.

kinneylamb

02-07-2009 15:30:39

i have a copy of an actual mpell certificate.

paulyhasit

02-07-2009 16:00:42

All of my yourtropbrands and brandarama sites have been wiped I dont even have any offers done. I dont know what is going on. They screwed me over !!! No complete or confirmed at alll !!!!!!!!!!!!

slambam

02-07-2009 16:54:35

Wow, will someone please go to there office and light a bag of shit right in Mr. Powers office for me?

And, not that I doubt that they have filed for bankruptcy, but has anybody seen an article about this?

walrus9

03-07-2009 10:24:16

My site information was still on brandarama. Not that that means anything, but it still shows as confirmed to ship.

oleus

03-07-2009 10:44:19

[quote29fad2ff2e="walrus9"]My site information was still on brandarama. Not that that means anything, but it still shows as confirmed to ship.[/quote29fad2ff2e]

my info is still showing up too.

thing is, it makes perfect sense with the holiday weekend that this is happening at this particular time, if true.

i emailed mpell twice over the last 48 hours and have heard nothing back, which for them is strange. brandarama's recent silence as far as email replies could be related, or could be because no one is there due to the holiday long weekend.

either way, i'm pretty much convinced i will never see my money and only have to hope that some kind of legal justice will catch up to either Mpell and/or ARG, even if it takes a while (and a lot more AG complaints from people who slowly start to realize what has happened and may not visit forums like these).

Eeyore

03-07-2009 11:09:24

Hmmmm...

All my ARG sites are still up and running as usual. I also got an almost instant reply from them on Weds. While it would not surprise me at all if Brad takes the money and runs, there is precious little evidence of any bankruptcy filing or corporate dissolution. Evan all the advertisers are still up on their sites, and some have new ones.

paulyhasit

03-07-2009 11:45:48

[quote6b7f217d95="Eeyore"]Hmmmm...

All my ARG sites are still up and running as usual. I also got an almost instant reply from them on Weds. While it would not surprise me at all if Brad takes the money and runs, there is precious little evidence of any bankruptcy filing or corporate dissolution. Evan all the advertisers are still up on their sites, and some have new ones.[/quote6b7f217d95]

I have no idea why none of my sites are showing. This is amazing,...


-paulyhasit

oleus

03-07-2009 11:53:24

[quoteca24ea6c37="paulyhasit"][quoteca24ea6c37="Eeyore"]Hmmmm...

All my ARG sites are still up and running as usual. I also got an almost instant reply from them on Weds. While it would not surprise me at all if Brad takes the money and runs, there is precious little evidence of any bankruptcy filing or corporate dissolution. Evan all the advertisers are still up on their sites, and some have new ones.[/quoteca24ea6c37]

I have no idea why none of my sites are showing. This is amazing,...


-paulyhasit[/quoteca24ea6c37]

i hate to be negative, but at this point whether our sites are showing up or not may be close to irrelevant. you may be just as well of writing yourself an IOU and signing it "from brad powers".

oleus

03-07-2009 11:56:03

[quote773d118af2="Eeyore"]Hmmmm...

All my ARG sites are still up and running as usual. I also got an almost instant reply from them on Weds. While it would not surprise me at all if Brad takes the money and runs, there is precious little evidence of any bankruptcy filing or corporate dissolution. Evan all the advertisers are still up on their sites, and some have new ones.[/quote773d118af2]

yeah it could be complete BS - but there were two different people here with affiliate management connections saying that ARG had been pulled from their systems and were either going under or filing for bankruptcy. maybe they could chime in with some more information? either way, don't you think we'd have our money by now if everything was "okay"?

Eeyore

03-07-2009 12:25:55

Considering how long it took to get paid from these freaks two years ago and the coincidental association of their address and phone number with the likes of adware infidels Cydoor, I don't know if there is such a thing as "okay".

I suspect some of the affiliate management folks may be dramatizing a bit, because I'd have pulled ARG from my systems long ago and initiated collection actions if they had not paid me since January 2008. But having said that, I don't really expect to see the $2,100 these crooks owe me, bankruptcy or no. It's July, there has been zero official contact from ARG about the delay since the April 29 mass email, and the only recourse left now is to file suit.

I suspect any judgment will be similarly uncollectible.

livingloud28

03-07-2009 14:56:38

So listen at this I received an certified letter from ARG sending my forms back cause they said I missed the deadline and MPELL said to me as long as they was post marked by a certain date it was ok . And they send me someone elses receipts ?

oleus

03-07-2009 17:33:23

[quote88d6d2334f="livingloud28"]So listen at this I received an certified letter from ARG sending my forms back cause they said I missed the deadline and MPELL said to me as long as they was post marked by a certain date it was ok . And they send me someone elses receipts ?[/quote88d6d2334f]

wow. just wow. if they're mixing people's receipts up now we have a 15th thing to worry about. nice.

ashilef

03-07-2009 21:16:20

I'm confused...if they aren't paying us then why go through all the motions of certified letters and such? Busy work until they shut down???

oleus

03-07-2009 21:58:50

[quote1bdd91ba89="ashilef"]I'm confused...if they aren't paying us then why go through all the motions of certified letters and such? Busy work until they shut down???[/quote1bdd91ba89]

to make it look like they were doing "something"

ashilef

03-07-2009 23:58:49

[quoteacc5472d5d="oleus"][quoteacc5472d5d="ashilef"]I'm confused...if they aren't paying us then why go through all the motions of certified letters and such? Busy work until they shut down???[/quoteacc5472d5d]

to make it look like they were doing "something"[/quoteacc5472d5d]

But what's the point? In the end it won't matter anyway...

bayarea05

04-07-2009 03:08:18

This is sickening, its july. No money, still broke. Thanks Mpell and ARG.

hawke12

04-07-2009 07:18:05

[quote6e0f73529e="ashilef"][quote6e0f73529e="oleus"][quote6e0f73529e="ashilef"]I'm confused...if they aren't paying us then why go through all the motions of certified letters and such? Busy work until they shut down???[/quote6e0f73529e]

to make it look like they were doing "something"[/quote6e0f73529e]

But what's the point? In the end it won't matter anyway...[/quote6e0f73529e]

Yeah it will, because they can "Honestly" tell the Bankruptcy judge that they "Tried to do something about it" to make the bankruptcy easier to claim....

They'll claim it, shut down, and open under a NEW LLC.

It happens all the time.

Welcome to Free Enterprise )

oleus

04-07-2009 08:19:18

[quotef116be56c0="ashilef"][quotef116be56c0="oleus"][quotef116be56c0="ashilef"]I'm confused...if they aren't paying us then why go through all the motions of certified letters and such? Busy work until they shut down???[/quotef116be56c0]

to make it look like they were doing "something"[/quotef116be56c0]

But what's the point? In the end it won't matter anyway...[/quotef116be56c0]

sure it will. which is why mpell needs to be held accountable for their involvement in this, especially if the rumors of arg's bankruptcy are true.

Waltmeister

05-07-2009 19:58:01

So did they mean July 2010[/size1e77b48502] was when checks would be sent out. Yay... only 12 months more to wait. x

zr2152

05-07-2009 21:07:28

[quotefc3fd41bb3="oleus"][quotefc3fd41bb3="ashilef"][quotefc3fd41bb3="oleus"][quotefc3fd41bb3="ashilef"]I'm confused...if they aren't paying us then why go through all the motions of certified letters and such? Busy work until they shut down???[/quotefc3fd41bb3]

to make it look like they were doing "something"[/quotefc3fd41bb3]

But what's the point? In the end it won't matter anyway...[/quotefc3fd41bb3]

sure it will. which is why mpell needs to be held accountable for their involvement in this, especially if the rumors of arg's bankruptcy are true.[/quotefc3fd41bb3]

Word. I actually think that they should be held responsible the most because their "cashback certificates" put people in debt.

way to go. Has anyone talked to upper level management at MPELL or is everyone waiting to see if this bankruptcy rumor is completely true?

ploppsdman

05-07-2009 21:59:55

I'm not sitting around for the bankruptcy 6-8 week wait to turn into a year or 3 year wait. The NY Attorney General gets a letter about ARG and Mpell, and I'm probably sending one to the CA Attorney General about Mpell and ARG.

tylerc

05-07-2009 23:06:36

Does anyone have the mailing address for MPell?

Eeyore

06-07-2009 06:45:22

Mpell Solutions
3142 Tiger Run Court
Carlsbad, CA 92010

CEO is Oran Thomas

They'll be getting a letter this week from me, too.

bryanvanalmkerk

06-07-2009 07:15:09

The people I worked with over there got let go and didnt even know it was going to happen. Just a pink slip and told to leave end of day due to the closing shop.

Zags1199

06-07-2009 08:34:25

Wow, so they even treat their own employees like crap, too.

dakare

06-07-2009 09:29:45

So it is no longer a rumor, they have closed down and getting our money is not going to happen??? I was worried when I didn't receive an answer to my email and I have always heard back before.

FreeOffersNow

06-07-2009 10:04:28

[quoteb83b2386cb="dakare"]So it is no longer a rumor, they have closed down and getting our money is not going to happen??? I was worried when I didn't receive an answer to my email and I have always heard back before.[/quoteb83b2386cb]

Still a rumor until there's a bankruptcy claim.

box86rowh

06-07-2009 10:22:27

There main office phone now does not pick up at all....just busy

Eeyore

06-07-2009 11:03:55

Well considering all the rumors flying around their phone being jammed up isn't surprising. If it was disconnected you'd get the intercept.

kinneylamb

06-07-2009 13:52:23

i received an e-mail today, it was a cigarette survey -- free $100 visa -- by yourtopbrands. the link to the gift went to a hydra network referral link, however it said the offer had expired, with links to try products.

lialso i was able to get thru on the customer service phone. i got the same cashback certificates message, i didn't bother trying to speak to somebody.

kinneylamb

06-07-2009 13:53:46

[quotef887f90b7b="bryanvanalmkerk"]The people I worked with over there got let go and didnt even know it was going to happen. Just a pink slip and told to leave end of day due to the closing shop.[/quotef887f90b7b]
you worked with people where? when? and why did you not receive a pink slip?

doylnea

06-07-2009 14:17:13

You can work with people, and not work for them...that is, his contacts at ARG were let go, he didn't work as an employee of ARG.

oleus

06-07-2009 18:41:04

mpell hasn't been answering emails either.

slambam

06-07-2009 21:04:09

I just tried calling ARG knowing they're obviously not open to see what happens, and just a busy signal still. The a-holes are done. That's the ballgame folks...

kinneylamb

06-07-2009 23:24:48

1-877-31-BRAND

i called and am getting the after-hours message. are you sure youre dialing the right number

ghounds07

07-07-2009 00:18:53

(212) 268-4535

box86rowh

07-07-2009 07:36:04

The office number.....no one ever answers the 877 number...

ghounds07

07-07-2009 07:37:33

Me Brad, did ARG file for bankruptcy a little bit ago?
Brad No, no we have not

take it for what it is worth though...

RolltheStampede

07-07-2009 07:55:48

should have asked him when we are getting paid

box86rowh

07-07-2009 09:34:55

What do you think this means?

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/

bruman

07-07-2009 09:48:47

[quotee82c45c6ff="box86rowh"]What do you think this means?

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/[/quotee82c45c6ff]

Interesting.. sounds like ARG is being sold with the help of Hercules Technology, an investor in the company. So this kind of debunks the bankruptcy rumor and it could be good news for us getting paid (eventually P)

bruman

07-07-2009 09:55:04

Here's a summarized version from the DowJones website I found. Can't view it all without a membership though. The wordpress one is probably the most detailed one we'll find on the situation, this is just a new source, more "official" than a wordpress blog. https//www.fis.dowjones.com/article.aspx?ProductIDFromApplication=32&aid=DJFVW00020090706e577000m9&r=Rss&s=DJFVW

"Online Marketing Co. Active Response To Liquidate Assets

Active Response Group Inc., an online marketing company that raised $10 million in venture debt from Hercules Technology Growth Capital, has announced a plan to sell its assets"

box86rowh

07-07-2009 09:56:45

I am excited and scared at the same time....

box86rowh

07-07-2009 10:00:50

I decided I am going to buy the assets and pay everyone!!!

jasonatsmtc

07-07-2009 10:02:49

[quotedeca8f6f92="box86rowh"]I decided I am going to buy the assets and pay everyone!!![/quotedeca8f6f92]

What a relief..

bruman

07-07-2009 10:13:23

The bidding ends July 23, 2009 at 300 p.m. Since they're being sold we're probably not going to see any progress between now and then. I suppose all we can do now is hope for a good buyer (either an individual or another company) who is prepared to pay off all of ARGs debt to us.

nousername

07-07-2009 10:25:24

[quote5d89403570="bruman"][quote5d89403570="box86rowh"]What do you think this means?

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/[/quote5d89403570]

Interesting.. sounds like ARG is being sold with the help of Hercules Technology, an investor in the company. So this kind of debunks the bankruptcy rumor and it could be good news for us getting paid (eventually P)[/quote5d89403570]

"[i5d89403570]Date Certain M&A of Active Response Group, Inc., its Assets and Intellectual Property by its secured senior lender- Hercules Technology Growth Capital
July 6, 2009 by Patric Carlsson

SALE OF ASSETS OF ACTIVE RESPONSE GROUP INC.
Gerbsman Partners (www.gerbsmanpartners.com) has been retained by Hercules Technology Growth Capital (“Hercules”), the senior secured lender to Active Response Group, Inc., (“ARG”), (www.activeresponsegroup.com) to solicit interest for the acquisition of all or substantially all of ARG’s assets, including its Intellectual Property (“IP”), in whole or in part (collectively, the “ARG Assets”).

Please be advised that the ARG Assets are being offered for sale pursuant to Section 9-610 of the Uniform Commercial Code. Purchasers of the ARG Assets will receive all of ARG’s right, title, and interest in the [b5d89403570]purchased portion of Hercules’ collateral, which consists of substantially all of ARG’s assets[/b5d89403570], as provided in the Uniform Commercial Code.

The sale is being conducted with the cooperation of Hercules and ARG. ARG has advised Hercules that it will use its best efforts to make its employees available to assist purchasers with due diligence and assist with a prompt and efficient transition at mutually convenient time. "[/i5d89403570]



I'm interpreting this as Hercules is helping (making?) ARG sell ARG's assets (which actually now belongs to Hercules ... see where I've bolded) to recover the $10 million that ARG borrowed from Hercules about 2 years ago. And will there may be anything left over to pay us?

beerman

07-07-2009 10:28:37

[quote0e8f651c22="bruman"]The bidding ends July 23, 2009 at 300 p.m. Since they're being sold we're probably not going to see any progress between now and then. I suppose all we can do now is hope for a good buyer (either an individual or another company) who is prepared to pay off all of ARGs debt to us.[/quote0e8f651c22]

notice there is no talk about who is taking over the debt, my bet is that the assests will be sold and then they will shut down the business....

mariners1999

07-07-2009 10:30:11

[quote15cbfbd9a9="box86rowh"]What do you think this means?

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/[/quote15cbfbd9a9]

Interesting..... It looks like Hercules is ARG's biggest debt holder and is looking to get paid back for all the money it has given to ARG. I think this is a last ditch effort to try to not have to declare bankruptcy. Bidding ends on July 23rd so this is happening fast!!! I would assume that what they are doing is trying to raise enough money to payoff what they owe to suppliers, us, and bond holders (Hercules). If they get a high enough bid then we get paid if they don't then they go into recievership and Hercules forces bankruptcy (since they will be 1st in line as a secured lender).

M

Eeyore

07-07-2009 11:22:21

That wording suggests a private liquidation to recover money owed Hercules. In essence they are foreclosing the $10 million loan. What happens after the auction is anyone's guess, but considering the implication of continued operation of the "assets" (the websites and ad network, not the company) I don't see how anyone would pay out debts owed by ARG, which will essentially disappear.

In other words, game, set, match.

FreeOffersNow

07-07-2009 11:27:09

[quote58261198c6="bruman"][quote58261198c6="box86rowh"]What do you think this means?

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/[/quote58261198c6]

Interesting.. sounds like ARG is being sold with the help of Hercules Technology, an investor in the company. So this kind of debunks the bankruptcy rumor and it could be good news for us getting paid (eventually P)[/quote58261198c6]

This is bad news. Think of it as me owing you $500, but I don't have it, so you make me sell my xbox and computer at a price much lower than FMV to get you your $500. Think of it as a firesale, not an acquisition.

oleus

07-07-2009 12:45:40

sounds like bad news to me. you think they will even bother finishing the so-called audit and take care of us before all of this? and who the hell knows about where that leaves us...are they even going to be honest about how much they owe US before being taken over?? the NY and CA AG complaints are all I have to count on now and that is VERY flimsy hope.

Eeyore

07-07-2009 12:54:24

Reading the stuff on the Gerbsman Partners website is pretty informative. It'll give you a good feel for what they do and what they will probably do with ARG.

http//www.gerbsmanpartners.com/news.html

These are the folks who have been hired to "sell" ARG.

oleus

07-07-2009 13:01:45

[quotec608a0af40="bruman"]The bidding ends July 23, 2009 at 300 p.m. Since they're being sold we're probably not going to see any progress between now and then. I suppose all we can do now is hope for a good buyer (either an individual or another company) who is prepared to pay off all of ARGs debt to us.[/quotec608a0af40]

but why would any "good" buyer go out and purchase a company just so they can pay off that company's debt? out of goodwill?

i would put the chances of seeing a cent at .0001% now to be honest. i hope someone smarter than me can explain a scenario where we end up getting the money for the receipts we sent MPELL.

again, it may involve getting a lawyer to help but i still don't see how MPELL can't be on the hook for the money owed to us at this point since ARG doesn't even necessarily exist as far as reality is concerned.

Eeyore

07-07-2009 13:05:04

They are not purchasing the company. They are purchasing the company's assets. HUGE difference.

FYI, here is the UCC code section cited. Please note the title. Hercules has declared ARG in default and is selling the collateral to recoup some of what they owe. ARG is over.

[quote82eb78f954]§ 9-610. DISPOSITION OF COLLATERAL AFTER DEFAULT.

(a) [Disposition after default.]

After default, a secured party may sell, lease, license, or otherwise dispose of any or all of the collateral in its present condition or following any commercially reasonable preparation or processing.

(b) [Commercially reasonable disposition.]

Every aspect of a disposition of collateral, including the method, manner, time, place, and other terms, must be commercially reasonable. If commercially reasonable, a secured party may dispose of collateral by public or private proceedings, by one or more contracts, as a unit or in parcels, and at any time and place and on any terms.

(c) [Purchase by secured party.]

A secured party may purchase collateral

(1) at a public disposition; or

(2) at a private disposition only if the collateral is of a kind that is customarily sold on a recognized market or the subject of widely distributed standard price quotations.

(d) [Warranties on disposition.]

A contract for sale, lease, license, or other disposition includes the warranties relating to title, possession, quiet enjoyment, and the like which by operation of law accompany a voluntary disposition of property of the kind subject to the contract.

(e) [Disclaimer of warranties.]

A secured party may disclaim or modify warranties under subsection (d)

(1) in a manner that would be effective to disclaim or modify the warranties in a voluntary disposition of property of the kind subject to the contract of disposition; or

(2) by communicating to the purchaser a record evidencing the contract for disposition and including an express disclaimer or modification of the warranties.

(f) [Record sufficient to disclaim warranties.]

A record is sufficient to disclaim warranties under subsection (e) if it indicates "There is no warranty relating to title, possession, quiet enjoyment, or the like in this disposition" or uses words of similar import.[/quote82eb78f954]

About the only recourse now is to sue to stop the sale unless those owed money (us) are included in the proceeds distribution. Fat chance of that happening.

oleus

07-07-2009 13:09:10

so they way i am reading that all is this - a LOT of the money that ARG owes people is going to vanish into thin air, won't it? only whatever is left over after this firesale will go to people owed and it will probably be to much bigger fish than us i am assuming.

Eeyore

07-07-2009 13:10:30

ARG is going to vanish into thin air since they will have no assets, including their websites and all other things of any value.

oleus

07-07-2009 13:11:53

Well, time to sue MPELL in small claims court. I've always wanted to see the San Diego area. If I lose, I lose. Maybe i can catch a ballgame.

zr2152

07-07-2009 13:18:56

[quoteac21df545d="oleus"]Well, time to sue MPELL in small claims court. I've always wanted to see the San Diego area. If I lose, I lose. Maybe i can catch a ballgame.[/quoteac21df545d]

Yup. That's who messed this whole thing up and put people into debt. MPELL is the next step since ARG is soon to be non existent.

michae229

07-07-2009 13:32:02

[quote20e4ed4d69="oleus"]Well, time to sue MPELL in small claims court. I've always wanted to see the San Diego area. If I lose, I lose. Maybe i can catch a ballgame.[/quote20e4ed4d69]

lol ball game

oleus

07-07-2009 13:43:05

is it a good idea to send Mpell a copy of the AG complaint i'm filing? Just so they know for sure?

orangejuice

07-07-2009 14:04:07

I am going out to CA for vacation and I can guarantee you that i will file a lawsuit. look for one next month. If anyone wants to meet me out there, please PM me

oleus

07-07-2009 14:14:31

anyone have Oran Thomas (MPell CEO) email info?

oleus

07-07-2009 14:16:33

[quote3d42a466b7="orangejuice"]I am going out to CA for vacation and I can guarantee you that i will file a lawsuit. look for one next month. If anyone wants to meet me out there, please PM me[/quote3d42a466b7]

well i have a damn good reason to visit some left coast friends now.

beerman

07-07-2009 14:34:28

[quotec922d29dd3="oleus"]anyone have Oran Thomas (MPell CEO) email info?[/quotec922d29dd3]

email==othomas@mpellsolutions.comothomas@mpellsolutions.com=othomas@mpellsolutions.comothomas@mpellsolutions.com/email

sexualintellectual

07-07-2009 16:35:23

This is a colossal kick in the junk. I have felt for a long time we weren't going to see a dime, but this still hurts. I can only hope that karma is a real thing, and that someday Brad Powers feels it inching up his anus after dropping the soap in a federal prison. Bitch.

With ethics like his, I have to believe he'll end up there eventually. And he definitely looks like a catcher.

oleus

07-07-2009 16:54:27

[quote517fcc02ed="sexualintellectual"]This is a colossal kick in the junk. I have felt for a long time we weren't going to see a dime, but this still hurts. I can only hope that karma is a real thing, and that someday Brad Powers feels it inching up his anus after dropping the soap in a federal prison. Bitch.

With ethics like his, I have to believe he'll end up there eventually. And he definitely looks like a catcher.[/quote517fcc02ed]

i'm no lawyer but SOME kind of massive fraud occured here, something illegal HAS to have happened. my theory is that they knew they weren't going to pay us BEFORE mpell got involved. thefact that they had them send us certificates telling us that if we were owed $4000 we had to go spend $4000, only to have it all disappear into thin air- it's not just highly highly unethical, it has to be more!! in the current climate, maybe we can actually get something serious rolling against ARG and Mpell.

PS- it's tuesday night and i still can't get a response from anyone at ARG or MPELL. strange on both counts.....

sexualintellectual

07-07-2009 17:02:52

[quote1130ae46a5="oleus"][quote1130ae46a5="sexualintellectual"]This is a colossal kick in the junk. I have felt for a long time we weren't going to see a dime, but this still hurts. I can only hope that karma is a real thing, and that someday Brad Powers feels it inching up his anus after dropping the soap in a federal prison. Bitch.

With ethics like his, I have to believe he'll end up there eventually. And he definitely looks like a catcher.[/quote1130ae46a5]

i'm no lawyer but SOME kind of massive fraud occured here, something illegal HAS to have happened. my theory is that they knew they weren't going to pay us BEFORE mpell got involved. thefact that they had them send us certificates telling us that if we were owed $4000 we had to go spend $4000, only to have it all disappear into thin air- it's not just highly highly unethical, it has to be more!! in the current climate, maybe we can actually get something serious rolling against ARG and Mpell.

PS- it's tuesday night and i still can't get a response from anyone at ARG or MPELL. strange on both counts.....[/quote1130ae46a5]

I hope that someone from ARG or MPell with inside information gets shafted in this mess and goes looking for revenge. I think that's pretty much the only hope of setting these turd bags on fire.

And I haven't heard from ARG since I e-mailed them on Thursday or MPell from this morning. They're probably all lighting cigars with cash-back certificates laughing it up and having a big fucking ball.

oleus

07-07-2009 17:11:40

i emailed the Mpell CEO a very long and detailed email demanding a blank, original copy of the certificates they sent out in January. Someone here had his phone number didn't they?

ghounds07

07-07-2009 17:52:02

[quote238d355176="RolltheStampede"]should have asked him when we are getting paid[/quote238d355176]

Did;

Brad "I can't really say when right now to tell you the truth, we have no set date"

makes a little more sense with ARG up for auction, so maybe he is referring to that?

I'll call him back in a week and hopefully get more info, what a joke.

slambam

07-07-2009 21:06:00

Should ask IF we're ever getting paid...

edgespeeder04

07-07-2009 21:07:00

ask him to dip into his own fund.....bet he's set with all the affliate money....this just sucks....not like they can make much interest off our money like they could back then with 5% that was normal in savings accounts

ghounds07

07-07-2009 21:36:16

[quotef72fdb707c="slambam"]Should ask IF we're ever getting paid...[/quotef72fdb707c]

did, asked if they planned on ever paying us and he said yes, but I think the new date for info is like July 24th or after...

freeipodplayer

07-07-2009 22:16:15

Should have taken them to small claims while you could still get money. (and yes, like those of us that did AND were DQ'd AND had over 50 gifts.)

oleus

08-07-2009 00:34:57

[quote745e9e65dc="freeipodplayer"]Should have taken them to small claims while you could still get money. (and yes, like those of us that did AND were DQ'd AND had over 50 gifts.)[/quote745e9e65dc]

so you got something from them in small claims?

JANGALANG32

08-07-2009 06:26:42

[quoteaec48be8ab="ghounds07"][quoteaec48be8ab="RolltheStampede"]should have asked him when we are getting paid[/quoteaec48be8ab]

Did;

Brad "I can't really say when right now to tell you the truth, we have no set date"

makes a little more sense with ARG up for auction, so maybe he is referring to that?

I'll call him back in a week and hopefully get more info, what a joke.[/quoteaec48be8ab]

you really talk to him? ask why we went through mpell? ask him why a receipt was needed to get our gifts?


i still cant believe ive checked this thread daily for as long as i have. after years of nothing i probably should move on

box86rowh

08-07-2009 07:24:13

I just got off the phone with Brad...he told me that once the sale happens, the creditors(Hercules being the main one) would be paid, after that, whatever money is left will be used to pay us. I asked "What happens if there is no money left?". He answered with "I don't know". He told me to call him back after the sale...

ghounds07

08-07-2009 07:30:10

oh well, there goes a $1000 (

RolltheStampede

08-07-2009 07:37:12

IF they cant pay everyone all they are owed they should atleast pay everyone the same percentage. Like everyone get 50% of what they are owed, instead of paying a few and totally screwing the rest.

supersponger1979

08-07-2009 07:46:44

I am in San Diego if you guys wanna meet up when you are in the area. I am definitely in on a lawsuit...Let me know if we are doing this as a group.

box86rowh

08-07-2009 07:58:26

A lawsuit wont do any good....

oleus

08-07-2009 08:02:52

[quote2fc8e68f3d="box86rowh"]I just got off the phone with Brad...he told me that once the sale happens, the creditors(Hercules being the main one) would be paid, after that, whatever money is left will be used to pay us. I asked "What happens if there is no money left?". He answered with "I don't know". He told me to call him back after the sale...[/quote2fc8e68f3d]

where has brad "mr. accessible" been throughout this whole mess? now he's cell phone buddies with half the board? I had given up hope but the last few days' developments and brad's "oh well" attitude has me too angry to describe. THE PEOPLE WHO SPENT MONEY AND SENT IN RECEIPTS DESERVE A DIRECT EXPLANATION/CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON!!!

box86rowh

08-07-2009 08:06:32

That is as direct as you are going to get...we are not the important people to him...the creditors are...

oleus

08-07-2009 08:08:23

[quoted7ab22fab9="box86rowh"]A lawsuit wont do any good....[/quoted7ab22fab9]

a small claims suit won't work, but addendums to any Attorney General complaints might help. Against ARG liandli Mpell. WHY DID THEY HAVE US GO SPEND OUR OWN MONEY TO SEND IN RECEIPTS??? It's one thing that we never got the giftcard money but the whole mpell mess changes everything in this scenario.

oleus

08-07-2009 08:11:41

[quoted8b59fba98="box86rowh"]That is as direct as you are going to get...we are not the important people to him...the creditors are...[/quoted8b59fba98]

next time you talk to him, ask him if his kids will like visiting him in jail.

box86rowh

08-07-2009 08:16:11

[quote8ef7557900="oleus"][quote8ef7557900="box86rowh"]That is as direct as you are going to get...we are not the important people to him...the creditors are...[/quote8ef7557900]

next time you talk to him, ask him if his kids will like visiting him in jail.[/quote8ef7557900]
I dont think empty childish threats will work...

oleus

08-07-2009 08:20:59

[quote288c56d533="box86rowh"][quote288c56d533="oleus"][quote288c56d533="box86rowh"]That is as direct as you are going to get...we are not the important people to him...the creditors are...[/quote288c56d533]

next time you talk to him, ask him if his kids will like visiting him in jail.[/quote288c56d533]
I dont think empty childish threats will work...[/quote288c56d533]

it's not an empty threat at all. do you really think he DIDN'T commit fraud against the people involved in the MPell certificates? if the NY AG office has any sense they will investigate this as a criminal matter. and if the CA AG starts looking into Mpell, you think Mpell won't try and start holding Brad's feet to the fire? We're not seeing any money, but i hope he knows this is NOT OVER

box86rowh

08-07-2009 08:26:33

What he is doing is completely legal....scummy, but legal...

oleus

08-07-2009 08:31:28

[quote42c3125b71="box86rowh"]What he is doing is completely legal....scummy, but legal...[/quote42c3125b71]

"completely legal" i very highly doubt. we'll see.

mjforever

08-07-2009 09:49:19

[quote48beaa1e87="oleus"][quote48beaa1e87="box86rowh"]What he is doing is completely legal....scummy, but legal...[/quote48beaa1e87]

"completely legal" i very highly doubt. we'll see.[/quote48beaa1e87]

legal??? are you serious?

Eeyore

08-07-2009 10:15:21

He's right. You agreed to this scumbag's process when you sent in the form. Unethical? Totally. Illegal? No.

Eeyore

08-07-2009 10:21:38

[quote5707f08329="RolltheStampede"]IF they cant pay everyone all they are owed they should atleast pay everyone the same percentage. Like everyone get 50% of what they are owed, instead of paying a few and totally screwing the rest.[/quote5707f08329]
Unfortunately, Hercules is the secured creditor and is owed $10 million. I doubt the auction will produce enough cash to even pay them off. Then there are other unsecured creditors who have filed suit. Then there is us. You can bet Hercules has already swept up all available cash from ARG.

I am researching Mpell's culpability in this, as well as California's consumer protection laws. I am also researching the Federal Mail Fraud statutes, since Mpell used the USPS to aid and abet this fraud.

If I find a viable angle I'll report back soon.

mariners1999

08-07-2009 10:21:50

[quote93216a8a8d="box86rowh"]What he is doing is completely legal[/color93216a8a8d]....scummy, but legal...[/quote93216a8a8d]

+1

I agree. I have seen this before. This is not the first time a company has done this and it will not be the last. It happens everyday.

For this to be "illegal" we would have to prove fraud. Like he takes the companies money and spends it on hookers and blow.

Look at all the corporate bankruptcys you see. Nothing new. Eddie Bauer, Linen and Things, 6 Flags, etc.... The "secured" creditors get paid first and then if there is any money left it goes to the unsecured.

Want to really feel like crap go work for a company and have your paycheck bounce and then they declare Bankruptcy. Guess what you are now an "unsecured creditor" and you will get nothing.

This is just one of lifes lessons. I have learned the freebie scene is pretty much dead. (I know I will get flamed for that opinion but it is what I really think now) Too much work now compared to years ago. This was my last set of gifts I was waiting on and the sad things is I really could have used the money like all of you during this recession.

Such is life and now instead of being full of hate for these assholes I am just going to try to move on and make money at my job and be glad I have one right now.

Good luck to you all I will check back in after the sale to see what we hear but I need to move on for my sanity and so I don't give myself any ulcers.

M

oleus

08-07-2009 10:41:11

fraud is fraud....it's not just unethical. the mpell certificates, in my opinion, point to a very specific fraudelent act. like i said, this is just my opinion, but without the step to get mpell involved (then UN-involved) is what I think the key difference is here between highly-unethical-but-legal and downright fraud. if that step hadn't been taken and we were still all just waiting for giftcards, then i would completely agree that there was no legal recourse. and it's probably while Mpell has turned dead silent.

mariners1999

08-07-2009 11:24:17

[quote5155197d30="oleus"]fraud is fraud....it's not just unethical. the mpell certificates, in my opinion, point to a very specific fraudelent act. like i said, this is just my opinion, but without the step to get mpell involved (then UN-involved) is what I think the key difference is here between highly-unethical-but-legal and downright fraud. if that step hadn't been taken and we were still all just waiting for giftcards, then i would completely agree that there was no legal recourse. and it's probably while Mpell has turned dead silent.[/quote5155197d30]

Oleus,

I would never tell you not to sue Mpell but understand when you get in front of a judge and they produce the certificate that YOU SIGNED and it says

"by participating in this promotion, recipient releases and holds harmless Mpell and its affiliates from any liability"

"This offer is void under the following conditions....if the promotion is misprepresented or abused by the sponsor"

Again........ Game.........SET............MATCH!!!

We lose. evil

M

Eeyore

08-07-2009 11:32:22

It is possible to have the judge declare those parts of the certificate invalid, but now we're into lawyerland which requires upfront fees and probably a two to three year wait to get the case before the judge.

By that time Mpell will probably be history.

oleus

08-07-2009 11:37:18

i'm not talking about getting a lawyer and filing a civil suit, i'm talking about the Attorney General complaints in both CA and NY that are hopefully being taken seriously. trust me, i know we're screwed with little recourse if any. but i won't just walk away and assume that to be the case.

mariners1999

08-07-2009 11:47:29

[quotee6048443b6="oleus"]i'm not talking about getting a lawyer and filing a civil suit, i'm talking about the Attorney General complaints in both CA and NY that are hopefully being taken seriously. trust me, i know we're screwed with little recourse if any. but i won't just walk away and assume that to be the case.[/quotee6048443b6]

Oleus,

wink Cool. I do wish you good luck. I am no lawyer but it will not be free to go the lawsuit route. The attorney generals are really bogged down with TRUE fraud cases that are pretty cut and dry. (i filed in NY about 2 months ago and still have heard nothing) Also remember that NY and CA have a huge buget deficit and have cut back on employees from top to bottom (this would include the Attorney Generals Office of both states) so this case I would assume is not high on their priority list.

Everyone has to make their own decisions on where they stand. I only was owed less then 2k so at this point that represents about what I make every 2 weeks or so. I am very lucky that I still have a job and bought visa gift cards I used for bills so I am really not out much.

I think it would be very different if I had bought a refer or a plasma or something and had it sitting on a credit card. I hope someone sticks it to both ARG and Mpell as I think Mpell needs to get money up front in cases like this. Maybe a few bills to their lawyers will make them think this out better next time.

M

oleus

08-07-2009 12:20:50

mariners - i hear ya. i just think this may be more of a "true cut and dry fraud case" than some people may be giving it credit for.

mctrask

08-07-2009 12:39:37

[quoted315904ce4="oleus"]fraud is fraud....it's not just unethical. the mpell certificates, in my opinion, point to a very specific fraudelent act. like i said, this is just my opinion, but without the step to get mpell involved (then UN-involved) is what I think the key difference is here between highly-unethical-but-legal and downright fraud. if that step hadn't been taken and we were still all just waiting for giftcards, then i would completely agree that there was no legal recourse. and it's probably while Mpell has turned dead silent.[/quoted315904ce4]

I agree with you on this. The first fraudulent act occurred when ARG made the claim through their own company and MPell that the sole purpose of those certificates was to expedite payments to customers they owed money to. I heard that again and again from both the people at ARG and MPell. Their subsequent actions make it very clear that that was not the case. The sole purpose of those certificates were to try and eliminate people who were owed money. They never had any intention of paying everyone and a simple investigation by the AG would reveal they never had the money to fulfill the promise of payment. Heck, they even admitted as much when the sent out their "overwhelming response" BS letter.

The next fraudulent act was to tell the customers who did participate in the certificate ARG claimed would speed up their payment, that they needed to conduct an "audit" and were going to hire people to do just that. Do you really think they actually hired anyone or even did an audit? I bet not. It was another delay tactic because again, "due to overwhelming response," they knew they didn't have the money to pay anyone.

As I said previously, I took notes on my conversation with ARG fulfillment when those MPell certificates first came out and I was told lie after lie after lie. ARG can't issue me the check I've been waiting over are year for directly because YTB, HSC, etc. were all separate companies. LIE. The only way to get the money from ARG was to participate in the MPell certificate program because the offers I participated in were "while supplies last" and they were "out of stock." LIE. If I participated in the MPell certificate program I would see a check in just ten weeks. LIE. The certificate program was implemented to get everyone paid. LIE.

This company embarked on a series of intentional deceptions which caused people to spend money by promising reimbursement that they knew they could not fulfill and did so by way of the USPS. Fraud, fraud and more fraud.

mctrask

08-07-2009 13:07:14

For those who are making the appropriate complaints to the AG, FTC, etc., you may also want to file a complaint with USPS OIG (Office of Inspector General) which is charged with investigating mail fraud.

They have a hotline as well as an online complaint form which can be found here

http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[]http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm

oleus

08-07-2009 13:24:38

[quote20f0ae7c3c="mctrask"]For those who are making the appropriate complaints to the AG, FTC, etc., you may also want to file a complaint with USPS OIG (Office of Inspector General) which is charged with investigating mail fraud.

They have a hotline as well as an online complaint form which can be found here

http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[]http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[/quote20f0ae7c3c]

THANK YOU - very good to know. this would indeed fall under mail fraud because of the mpell certificates. Filling that out first thing after work, as well as submitting new CA and NY AG complaints.

PS what you laid out in your previous post spells out exactly why this could very well constitute illegal activity.

mariners1999

08-07-2009 13:26:22

[quotef5e6a2c3b1="mctrask"]For those who are making the appropriate complaints to the AG, FTC, etc., you may also want to file a complaint with USPS OIG (Office of Inspector General) which is charged with investigating mail fraud.

They have a hotline as well as an online complaint form which can be found here

http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[]http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[/quotef5e6a2c3b1]

mctrask,

I am not saying what they did was right. However to be able to "prove" fraud will be squarley on you and your lawyer. It will be difficult to prove what was said in a phone conversation and in most cases items like that are not admissable into court proceedings. Again I am not a lawyer but have gone the small claims court route a few times in the past and know from that experience that you will have a very tough time beating Mpell.

ARG would be easy to get a judgement against them however the issue on that is getting them to pay you. All you get is a piece of paper saying that they owe you money and as soon as they declare bankruptcy after they sell their assets to cover the 10 million plus interest there will be nothing left and your judgement is "unsecured" vs. a secured interest that hercules has.

Life is full of choices and the stress from continuing a fight that 99/100 times you will lose will just have bad effects on your health. Also I try to look at what is your time worth?

File a complaint with the AG of NY and CA, BBB of NY and CA, and the FTC and call it good. Maybe you will get some satisfaction from that however I think it will fall on mostly deaf ears.

Anyway sorry for getting on a soap box and I will leave you all now and check back after they get done with the bidding process near the end of July.

Good luck to us all!
M

mariners1999

08-07-2009 13:28:04

[quote4f0041152c="mariners1999"][quote4f0041152c="mctrask"]For those who are making the appropriate complaints to the AG, FTC, etc., you may also want to file a complaint with USPS OIG (Office of Inspector General) which is charged with investigating mail fraud.

They have a hotline as well as an online complaint form which can be found here

http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[]http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[/quote4f0041152c]

mctrask,

I am not saying what they did was right. However to be able to "prove" fraud will be squarley on you and your lawyer. It will be difficult to prove what was said in a phone conversation and in most cases items like that are not admissable into court proceedings. Again I am not a lawyer but have gone the small claims court route a few times in the past and know from that experience that you will have a very tough time beating Mpell.

ARG would be easy to get a judgement against them however the issue on that is getting them to pay you. All you get is a piece of paper saying that they owe you money and as soon as they declare bankruptcy after they sell their assets to cover the 10 million plus interest there will be nothing left and your judgement is "unsecured" vs. a secured interest that hercules has.

Life is full of choices and the stress from continuing a fight that 99/100 times you will lose will just have bad effects on your health. Also I try to look at what is your time worth?

File a complaint with the AG of NY and CA, BBB of NY and CA, and the FTC and call it good. Maybe you will get some satisfaction from that however I think it will fall on mostly deaf ears.

Anyway sorry for getting on a soap box and I will leave you all now and check back after they get done with the bidding process near the end of July.

Good luck to us all!
M[/quote4f0041152c]

I should clarify that in small claims cases you get no lawyer but if you choose to file in district court you would be best advised to get a lawyer.

M

oleus

08-07-2009 13:32:53

mariners - if anything comes from the Attorney/Solicitor General complaints we won't need lawyers to prove anything. It's Mpell and the ex-players in ARG who will need the lawyers.


PS - it won't be difficult at all to prove that Mpell claimed that they had fully taken over confirmation and fulfillment of our cash-back offers because I have emails specifically stating such saved from Mpell support, all of which were attached to my AG complaints. I was skeptical about the Mpell/ARG dynamic and they repeatedly stated (early on) that I had nothing to worry about because they had taken over the operation as far as we were concerned.

The Mpell email i posted here months ago in which the lady was basically saying I was stupid for trusting ARG was also included.

sexualintellectual

08-07-2009 13:36:40

The following is the e-mail I received from Oran Thomas in response to one in which I chastized their systematic denial of culpability in this mess and promised that I would be exploring legal action against MPell. Just an FYI for anyone thinking of e-mailing them...

-------------------------

Mpell is very sympathetic to the issues you are encountering trying to
receive the "gifts" that you earned from ARG.  We understand that ARG is
experiencing financial difficulties and to date has not delivered on their
obligations.  We understand your frustration and your desire to blame any
entity connected to ARG.  Obviously you have the right to pursue any avenue
you feel is available to you, but before you attempt to make Mpell
responsible for fulfilling the "gift" that you earned from ARG, please
consider the following

.       The "gift" that you earned from ARG was based on a contractual
relationship you had with ARG.  You provided ARG with consideration by
participating in their online marketing activities and they were to provide
you with consideration by delivering the "gift" you earned.  This obligation
far predated any involvement by Mpell in the certificate redemption process.
.       Mpell simply provided redemption and fulfillment services to ARG.
We were contracted by ARG to provide these services.  We were paid a very
small fee by ARG to send out their certificates and to collect them.  At no
point did Mpell enter into any agreement to assume any obligation that ARG
had to deliver your "gift" to you.  We did not enter into an agreement with
ARG or with you.  At no point did Mpell receive any consideration that would
show that such an agreement was made.
.       The letter that accompanied the certificate(s) you received clearly
stated that the certificate was being sent to you by ARG and that Mpell was
simply a fulfillment entity.
.       Given that Mpell never agreed to take over ARG's obligations, and
that we never received consideration to do so, we fail to see any damages
that you incurred that could be attributed to Mpell.
.       Mpell is a small company and could not afford to pay out even a
fraction of the "gifts" owed by ARG.

As I stated previously, you have the right to pursue any recourse you feel
is available; but I hope you will consider the above before you attempt to
make Mpell responsible for ARG's obligations.  This email clearly states
Mpell's position on ARG's obligations and is the only response we will make.
Please do not send additional informal correspondence.

mariners1999

08-07-2009 13:44:20

[quote75d91c16bd="oleus"]mariners - if anything comes from the Attorney/Solicitor General complaints we won't need lawyers to prove anything. It's Mpell and the ex-players in ARG who will need the lawyers.


PS - it won't be difficult at all to prove that Mpell claimed that they had fully taken over confirmation and fulfillment of our cash-back offers because I have emails specifically stating such saved from Mpell support, all of which were attached to my AG complaints. I was skeptical about the Mpell/ARG dynamic and they repeatedly stated (early on) that I had nothing to worry about because they had taken over the operation as far as we were concerned.

The Mpell email i posted here months ago in which the lady was basically saying I was stupid for trusting ARG was also included.[/quote75d91c16bd]

I have been a party to only one Attorney general complaint fest and basically what happend was the attorney general shut the place down and fined them $900,000...... All it did was force bankruptcy.

M

box86rowh

08-07-2009 13:57:47

[quote6a03f8e51f="sexualintellectual"]The following is the e-mail I received from Oran Thomas in response to one in which I chastized their systematic denial of culpability in this mess and promised that I would be exploring legal action against MPell. Just an FYI for anyone thinking of e-mailing them...

-------------------------

Mpell is very sympathetic to the issues you are encountering trying to
receive the "gifts" that you earned from ARG.  We understand that ARG is
experiencing financial difficulties and to date has not delivered on their
obligations.  We understand your frustration and your desire to blame any
entity connected to ARG.  Obviously you have the right to pursue any avenue
you feel is available to you, but before you attempt to make Mpell
responsible for fulfilling the "gift" that you earned from ARG, please
consider the following

.       The "gift" that you earned from ARG was based on a contractual
relationship you had with ARG.  You provided ARG with consideration by
participating in their online marketing activities and they were to provide
you with consideration by delivering the "gift" you earned.  This obligation
far predated any involvement by Mpell in the certificate redemption process.
.       Mpell simply provided redemption and fulfillment services to ARG.
We were contracted by ARG to provide these services.  We were paid a very
small fee by ARG to send out their certificates and to collect them.  At no
point did Mpell enter into any agreement to assume any obligation that ARG
had to deliver your "gift" to you.  We did not enter into an agreement with
ARG or with you.  At no point did Mpell receive any consideration that would
show that such an agreement was made.
.       The letter that accompanied the certificate(s) you received clearly
stated that the certificate was being sent to you by ARG and that Mpell was
simply a fulfillment entity.
.       Given that Mpell never agreed to take over ARG's obligations, and
that we never received consideration to do so, we fail to see any damages
that you incurred that could be attributed to Mpell.
.       Mpell is a small company and could not afford to pay out even a
fraction of the "gifts" owed by ARG.

As I stated previously, you have the right to pursue any recourse you feel
is available; but I hope you will consider the above before you attempt to
make Mpell responsible for ARG's obligations.  This email clearly states
Mpell's position on ARG's obligations and is the only response we will make.
Please do not send additional informal correspondence.[/quote6a03f8e51f]
Exactly!

oleus

08-07-2009 14:12:00

just got the same exact email. i love the "do not send any more informal repsonses" bit. if they had nothing to worry about they would have NEVER drafted that email which was obviously crafted by or with a lawyer. My take THEY KNOW THEY COULD BE IN SOME LEGAL DANGER IF THE RIGHT/WRONG KIND OF JUDGE OR INVESTIGATOR LOOKS AT THOSE CERTIFICATES!!!!!

oleus

08-07-2009 14:13:56

[quoteb2adfeb28a="mariners1999"][quoteb2adfeb28a="oleus"]mariners - if anything comes from the Attorney/Solicitor General complaints we won't need lawyers to prove anything. It's Mpell and the ex-players in ARG who will need the lawyers.


PS - it won't be difficult at all to prove that Mpell claimed that they had fully taken over confirmation and fulfillment of our cash-back offers because I have emails specifically stating such saved from Mpell support, all of which were attached to my AG complaints. I was skeptical about the Mpell/ARG dynamic and they repeatedly stated (early on) that I had nothing to worry about because they had taken over the operation as far as we were concerned.

The Mpell email i posted here months ago in which the lady was basically saying I was stupid for trusting ARG was also included.[/quoteb2adfeb28a]

I have been a party to only one Attorney general complaint fest and basically what happend was the attorney general shut the place down and fined them $900,000...... All it did was force bankruptcy.

M[/quoteb2adfeb28a]

that's fine with me. i'm past the "how am i going to get my money" phase, trust me. i sent in almost 4K in receipts, but it was all for stuff i was going to have to buy this year anyway. so to me it's not really missing money, but it's still money owed to me regardless.

Eeyore

08-07-2009 14:23:31

And yet after all this, ARG is still running their various sites, is still accepting new suckers (er...customers) and is still advertising product on their websites.

I just checked a 1/3/4 $1000 AMEX site which is fully populated, is passing traffic to advertisers and is processing as usual with no hint of trouble anywhere. In fact, it has more advertisers on it now than it did in March when I parked it.

dmorris68

08-07-2009 17:01:27

I was just going to post what is basically covered in Mpell's response above.

While it's liminutelyli conceivable that a court could hold Mpell to some small degree of liability, it's highly unlikely. As they mention, ARG hired them to do the legwork of mailing out and collecting certs based on the rules that ARG gave them. They're essentially a contractor. As they've noted before in BBB responses, it's like blaming UPS when someone ships you a box of rocks instead of an XBox. Now if UPS had lost the package, then they'd be liable, same as if ARG had given Mpell the funds to pay you but they never did. That didn't happen. ARG only used them to mail out forms and vet the responses against the guidelines provided to them by ARG.

Perhaps Mpell's fault lies in not being more clear about their level of responsibility in this, but honestly I never assumed any less. Of all the Mpell certificates and communications I've seen, I never once got the impression that they were anything more than a courier or middleman handling a fulfillment task.

oleus

08-07-2009 17:23:00

[quote4ad975c98b="dmorris68"]I was just going to post what is basically covered in Mpell's response above.

While it's liminutelyli conceivable that a court could hold Mpell to some small degree of liability, it's highly unlikely. As they mention, ARG hired them to do the legwork of mailing out and collecting certs based on the rules that ARG gave them. They're essentially a contractor. As they've noted before in BBB responses, it's like blaming UPS when someone ships you a box of rocks instead of an XBox. Now if UPS had lost the package, then they'd be liable, same as if ARG had given Mpell the funds to pay you but they never did. That didn't happen. ARG only used them to mail out forms and vet the responses against the guidelines provided to them by ARG.

Perhaps Mpell's fault lies in not being more clear about their level of responsibility in this, but honestly I never assumed any less. Of all the Mpell certificates and communications I've seen, I never once got the impression that they were anything more than a courier or middleman handling a fulfillment task.[/quote4ad975c98b]

i have emails from Mpell that told me explicitly that ARG was no longer involved in any aspect of the deal and that Mpell would even be the ones sending me the check(s). This was very early on, but still it was basically the main reason I went ahead with buying items and sending in my certificates.

there were some other people on here who were "promised" similar things and told similar statements. so the "we're just the messenger" song was something that developed 8-10 weeks after they sent out the forms. Yep, the same 8-10 weeks that we were supposed to receive our funds by. that was when the switcheroo happened.

Eeyore

08-07-2009 17:42:28

I'd bet $10 that the switcheroo happened when ARG failed to provide the funds...remember the "we're waiting on money from ARG" line?

sexualintellectual

08-07-2009 17:55:12

[quote935f63ae6e="dmorris68"]I was just going to post what is basically covered in Mpell's response above.

While it's liminutelyli conceivable that a court could hold Mpell to some small degree of liability, it's highly unlikely. As they mention, ARG hired them to do the legwork of mailing out and collecting certs based on the rules that ARG gave them. They're essentially a contractor. As they've noted before in BBB responses, it's like blaming UPS when someone ships you a box of rocks instead of an XBox. Now if UPS had lost the package, then they'd be liable, same as if ARG had given Mpell the funds to pay you but they never did. That didn't happen. ARG only used them to mail out forms and vet the responses against the guidelines provided to them by ARG.

Perhaps Mpell's fault lies in not being more clear about their level of responsibility in this, but honestly I never assumed any less. Of all the Mpell certificates and communications I've seen, I never once got the impression that they were anything more than a courier or middleman handling a fulfillment task.[/quote935f63ae6e]

I find fault with this

You don't have to tell UPS, "I sold a guy an Xbox, but this box is filled with rocks!" Their role is clearly stated as such they take your package from point A to B as a courier service, with little if any knowledge of what's actually in the box and why it's being sent. MPell knew exactly what was in those letters, and the certificates were being represented as MPell certificates. They knew what ARG's role was, what our role was, and what would be required to complete their job (i.e. that ARG actually have the funds to pay us). My certificates say that all communication was to go through MPell and that "only one of this [b935f63ae6e]MPell[/b935f63ae6e] certificate is valid per prize."

It is their responsibility as a business to carefully vet their clients when they run a program like this. Until they can prove otherwise, I don't think they did so in this situation. While from a legal standpoint this could make for a weak case, I think from consumer confidence standpoint it makes their position extremely fragile. Negligence and fraud are two very different things, but in the court of public opinion either one can lose a company a lot of trust. Many of us participated in the MPell solution only because they displayed a "we'll take it from here" attitude toward fulfillment and they had an exemplary track record previous to their involvement with ARG. I think to future end-users an MPell certificate may look like a dicey proposition. If MPell is known to do business with fraudsters who is to say that their certificates are worth anything at all?

kinneylamb

08-07-2009 18:13:20

[quote317f0f5006="Eeyore"]I'd bet $10 that the switcheroo happened when ARG failed to provide the funds...remember the "we're waiting on money from ARG" line?[/quote317f0f5006]
bingo.

and i think everyone who wants to talk about courts and attorney generals, needs to post in the brandarama legal thread. this is getting kind of ridiculous between posts about all different things, its too hard to follow.

box86rowh

08-07-2009 18:32:18

I just got off the phone with Kevin Grossman. He is the guy in charge at Hercules. He said that the senior creditors are being paid first. He also said there is a surprising amount of interest in ARG's assets. So the only thing that I see as a viable option is to wait until July 23 before I do anything...

ploppsdman

08-07-2009 19:12:41

[quoteec6fb774e2="dmorris68"]I was just going to post what is basically covered in Mpell's response above.

While it's liminutelyli conceivable that a court could hold Mpell to some small degree of liability, it's highly unlikely. As they mention, ARG hired them to do the legwork of mailing out and collecting certs based on the rules that ARG gave them. They're essentially a contractor. As they've noted before in BBB responses, it's like blaming UPS when someone ships you a box of rocks instead of an XBox. Now if UPS had lost the package, then they'd be liable, same as if ARG had given Mpell the funds to pay you but they never did. That didn't happen. ARG only used them to mail out forms and vet the responses against the guidelines provided to them by ARG.

Perhaps Mpell's fault lies in not being more clear about their level of responsibility in this, but honestly I never assumed any less. Of all the Mpell certificates and communications I've seen, I never once got the impression that they were anything more than a courier or middleman handling a fulfillment task.[/quoteec6fb774e2]

How are they anything like UPS? The job of any mail carrier is to get something from point A to point B. The issue with Mpell isn't about a failure in transportation and handling. We received a rebate certificate (s) sent by Mpell. What we didn't get is the payment Mpell promised. Mpell didn't send a check and UPS lost it, Mpell sent nothing of value (and we were told the check would be sent by regular mail, anyway, not UPS). Mpell has one job, that as a fulfillment house. They fulfilled nothing. Mpell said they were going to pay provided we met the requirements, and after we were approved that never happened. We were not paid. A simple end of the story.

Here are quotes from emails I received from mpell
" We are a fulfillment house. Our job as a fulfillment house is to make
sure you provide the correct documentation and provide you with the gift
once we receive this required documentation."

"We have received and approved your 4 certificates. They are being
processed. Please remember the certificate states to allow 8-10 weeks
to receive your gift."

Does that sound as though there's any doubt I'll be getting paid by Mpell? But did I? Mpell was negligent in taking ARG's business without being paid ahead of time at least 50% of what would be owed. Instead, Mpell got paid to send us letters and use our address and phone numbers in whatever way they want to make more money.

ILoveToys

08-07-2009 19:19:43

[quote31cf3e6dd5="box86rowh"]I just got off the phone with Kevin Grossman. He is the guy in charge at Hercules. He said that the senior creditors are being paid first. He also said there is a surprising amount of interest in ARG's assets. So the only thing that I see as a viable option is to wait until July 23 before I do anything...[/quote31cf3e6dd5]

Why July 23?

box86rowh

08-07-2009 19:25:50

That is the date the sale happens...to whoever the high bidder is...

mctrask

08-07-2009 22:22:05

[quote58ddf16ecc="mariners1999"][quote58ddf16ecc="mariners1999"][quote58ddf16ecc="mctrask"]For those who are making the appropriate complaints to the AG, FTC, etc., you may also want to file a complaint with USPS OIG (Office of Inspector General) which is charged with investigating mail fraud.

They have a hotline as well as an online complaint form which can be found here

http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[]http//www.uspsoig.gov/contact.htm[/quote58ddf16ecc]

mctrask,

I am not saying what they did was right. However to be able to "prove" fraud will be squarley on you and your lawyer. It will be difficult to prove what was said in a phone conversation and in most cases items like that are not admissable into court proceedings. Again I am not a lawyer but have gone the small claims court route a few times in the past and know from that experience that you will have a very tough time beating Mpell.

ARG would be easy to get a judgement against them however the issue on that is getting them to pay you. All you get is a piece of paper saying that they owe you money and as soon as they declare bankruptcy after they sell their assets to cover the 10 million plus interest there will be nothing left and your judgement is "unsecured" vs. a secured interest that hercules has.

Life is full of choices and the stress from continuing a fight that 99/100 times you will lose will just have bad effects on your health. Also I try to look at what is your time worth?

File a complaint with the AG of NY and CA, BBB of NY and CA, and the FTC and call it good. Maybe you will get some satisfaction from that however I think it will fall on mostly deaf ears.

Anyway sorry for getting on a soap box and I will leave you all now and check back after they get done with the bidding process near the end of July.

Good luck to us all!
M[/quote58ddf16ecc]

I should clarify that in small claims cases you get no lawyer but if you choose to file in district court you would be best advised to get a lawyer.

M[/quote58ddf16ecc]

I'm not going to bother with small claims court for a judgment I can never collect. What burns me is that this company had no intention of paying anyone. They committed a fairly blatant case of fraud and Brad Powers should have his feet held to the fire for it. He should also be barred from ever operating another company like this again.

And for people filing complaints with the NY AG, take the time to call and speak to them. They were very helpful when I spoke to them last January. They told me at the time the MPell cash back program sounded like it was on questionable legal ground. I posted that information here in this forum and warned people not to buy anything they couldn't pull their cash back out of. Your form complaints to the AG are getting placed on a pile with thousands of others they get every day but if they get enough phone calls about Active Response Group, it will compel them to move on it faster. I'd also suggest letting them know the company assets are now up for sale. They may have a different opinion on who gets paid first based on the facts.

And as for that MPell certificate we signed agreeing to not hold them responsible? Since we were told we could not receive the money we had already qualified for without signing it, that is called signing under duress and it won't hold up in any court if someone decides to take the legal route.

I've given up on ever receiving the cash at this point. What i do want however, is justice. It may not happen but it won't be for lack of trying. I plan on pushing this with every government agency I can.

kinneylamb

08-07-2009 23:04:11

in that link, hercules brags about ARG and its ability to secure leads for companies, on a pay per performance basis, blah blah blah.

then you have the guy in charge of hercules saying theres a suprising amount of interest in ARG's assetts (if thats true)

why would someone buy the assetts if not to continue running the company as it is? they cant transform it into another type of business can they? isn't it similar to someone putting up a freebie network for sale and another person buying it?

kinneylamb

08-07-2009 23:10:27

oh man

"...recent working capital constraints and an overly leveraged balance sheet have created the opportunity for all or a portion of ARG’s assets to be sold..."

there's our answer, at last, finally.

ghounds07

09-07-2009 01:05:14

[quote4e11b663f5="oleus"]just got the same exact email. i love the "do not send any more informal repsonses" bit. if they had nothing to worry about they would have NEVER drafted that email which was obviously crafted by or with a lawyer. My take THEY KNOW THEY COULD BE IN SOME LEGAL DANGER IF THE RIGHT/WRONG KIND OF JUDGE OR INVESTIGATOR LOOKS AT THOSE CERTIFICATES!!!!![/quote4e11b663f5]

or maybe the lawyer just told them to send people this and be done with it so they clearly point out why they are not liable. That way they would hopefully deter any court fees...

ghounds07

09-07-2009 01:15:46

Also, to me it seems as if Mpell created a contract with ARG which stated that Mpell would return a list of qualified customers, and at that time they would receive the necessary amount of money needed to fulfill all of the gifts. Although Mpell [i8fcad1579c]should[/i8fcad1579c] have collected the money in advance they would not know the total percent return of the certificates, so wouldn't this be completely legal? Due to the nature of a fulfillment business like Mpell couldn't this occur?

It seems like Mpell is also pissed at ARG for ruining their image and perhaps terminating their contract prematurely, but that is just my idea on things.

kinneylamb

09-07-2009 03:00:29

sounds like oran thomas realized what he got himself into.

thinking ahead, wouldn't it be crazy if the new owners of ARG's assets kept open their incentive sites, but didn't pay any of us? but would pay new users? wouldn't that make them just as bad as ARG's previous owners? not to mention all the people that have mailed gift claim forms since january.

sexualintellectual

09-07-2009 05:00:35

[quote43e5197217="ghounds07"]Also, to me it seems as if Mpell created a contract with ARG which stated that Mpell would return a list of qualified customers, and at that time they would receive the necessary amount of money needed to fulfill all of the gifts. Although Mpell [i43e5197217]should[/i43e5197217] have collected the money in advance they would not know the total percent return of the certificates, so wouldn't this be completely legal? Due to the nature of a fulfillment business like Mpell couldn't this occur?

It seems like Mpell is also pissed at ARG for ruining their image and perhaps terminating their contract prematurely, but that is just my idea on things.[/quote43e5197217]

MPell should have had ARG set up an escrow account that they initially funded with an agreed upon percentage of money owed, subject to additional deposits/withdrawals given our response. They obviously didn't, and ARG could have obviously still cancelled the deal and pulled the money out of the account, but at least they would have done due diligence in ensuring that this deal had a chance of being on the up and up. And if ARG never intended to pay us, MPell is at the very least an unwitting accomplice to mail fraud. While that in and of itself is probably not legally actionable, I think it warrants an apology. We'll never get it, but I would accept it.

ghounds07

09-07-2009 07:34:42

[quote23ea7f24c3="kinneylamb"]sounds like oran thomas realized what he got himself into.

thinking ahead, wouldn't it be crazy if the new owners of ARG's assets kept open their incentive sites, but didn't pay any of us? but would pay new users? wouldn't that make them just as bad as ARG's previous owners? not to mention all the people that have mailed gift claim forms since january.[/quote23ea7f24c3]

it would be crazy, but it seems that it could happen. I mean if they do keep the sites open they would not be obligated to pay us under the terms of ARG's sale, and so I'm pretty sure it would work out that way; how sad ( .

box86rowh

09-07-2009 08:09:41

Not sad...just business...lol

oleus

09-07-2009 08:21:20

[quotefc3c12059f="box86rowh"]Not sad...just business...lol[/quotefc3c12059f]

we'll see if it's "just business". like one of the posts above mentions, anyone who's made NY or CA attorney general complaints should make phone calls to the offices to follow up and get a human on the phone to discuss the situation.

it would have been "just business" if we were all just waiting on the giftcards from oct '07.. then we got the mpell certificates. that changes everything. especially since spending our own hard-earned money was stated as the ONLY way we could see our funds. sounds like there is the possibility that the terms on the sheets we signed could be considered bogus.

they were never going to pay us and put us through the mpell charade.

i strongly encourage people to call the AG offices. we'll never see our money but we were clearly victimized. and mpell could very well have committed mail fraud so don't forget the solicitor general form someone posted on the previous page.

box86rowh

09-07-2009 08:48:44

This is the company that is running the sale...

http//www.gerbsmanpartners.com/

box86rowh

09-07-2009 09:22:26

Just got off the phone with Brad again. He said once the sale is complete, a letter will be sent out to people who are owed checks explaining the next step...well see...

oleus

09-07-2009 09:28:41

[quotecc7bd6efb1="box86rowh"]Just got off the phone with Brad again. He said once the sale is complete, a letter will be sent out to people who are owed checks explaining the next step...well see...[/quotecc7bd6efb1]

i'm having a real hard time taking someone who talks to brad so much, and has the worst movie (or at least the worst sequel) of all time as their avatar seriously.

honestly, where was this open line of communication before all of this happened? are you friends with the guy?

i am not trying to start something here, it's an honest question....there were about 20 steps before this when we all had questions that this brad powers hotline would have really helped us out.

box86rowh

09-07-2009 09:31:35

No, I managed to get his cell through a LONG process involving many dead ends...and Indy 4 was rated fresh on RottenTomatoes.com...

http//www.rottentomatoes.com/m/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull/

box86rowh

09-07-2009 09:32:23

Oh and I forgot to mention.....

http//www.cinematical.com/2009/07/06/harrison-ford-returning-for-indiana-jones-5/

oleus

09-07-2009 09:35:34

yeah, the reviews were definitely much better than overall fan reaction. tell brad net time you talk to him that my attorney general complaint will now (hopefully) involve personal contact with the AG office when I go up to NYC at the end of the month. I'm calling them personally to follow up on things and hopefully will be scheduling a meeting on a previously scheduled trip (do the AG offices meet with people who have filed complaints?).

on another note, i haven't made any travel plans to CA but i have several friends in the socal area i am overdue to visit, so if the CA AG office can meet with someone i'm thinking about trying that, too. although i guess the AG office would be in sacramento, wouldn't it....?

box86rowh

09-07-2009 09:39:16

The only problem is Hercules ans locked the accounts of ARG....there is no money going out until after the sale...

oleus

09-07-2009 09:40:30

[quote3955a56b5c="box86rowh"]Oh and I forgot to mention.....

http//www.cinematical.com/2009/07/06/harrison-ford-returning-for-indiana-jones-5/[/quote3955a56b5c]

i hope they work on the scripting and effects a little more carefully this time. it had to look of the star wars prequels and felt nothing like the original Indy trilogy. i guess i'd rather see them do #5 and get it right than leave it at #4

box86rowh

09-07-2009 09:42:42

[quotebec271b578="oleus"][quotebec271b578="box86rowh"]Oh and I forgot to mention.....

http//www.cinematical.com/2009/07/06/harrison-ford-returning-for-indiana-jones-5/[/quotebec271b578]

i hope they work on the scripting and effects a little more carefully this time. it had to look of the star wars prequels and felt nothing like the original Indy trilogy. i guess i'd rather see them do #5 and get it right than leave it at #4[/quotebec271b578]
Wel it fits the pattern....Raiders was awesome, Temple of Doom was bad, Last Crusade was awesome again, then Crystal Skull....odds are good, evens are bad...

oleus

09-07-2009 10:00:10

i used to think Temple was bad, but i saw it recently and actually loved it.

FreeOffersNow

09-07-2009 11:00:55

In response to the "surprising amount of interest in ARG's assets" I'd like to offer one bit of information

Grossman is basically a salesman trying generate interest in ARG. Granted he's probably not trying to sell [i90e04888f6]you[/i90e04888f6] anything, but don't think for a minute they aren't compensated based on the amount of the accepted bid.

box86rowh

09-07-2009 11:06:08

I was told that by Grossman as well as the person running the process, Steve Gerbsman...

ashilef

09-07-2009 11:17:03

[quote10dc823b36="box86rowh"]Just got off the phone with Brad again. He said once the sale is complete, a letter will be sent out to people who are owed checks explaining the next step...well see...[/quote10dc823b36]

I sincerely hope the next step doesn't involve ME doing anything...I mean how many more times am I going to have to "qualify"?

box86rowh

09-07-2009 11:29:39

[quoteab6ae20694="ashilef"][quoteab6ae20694="box86rowh"]Just got off the phone with Brad again. He said once the sale is complete, a letter will be sent out to people who are owed checks explaining the next step...well see...[/quoteab6ae20694]

I sincerely hope the next step doesn't involve ME doing anything...I mean how many more times am I going to have to "qualify"?[/quoteab6ae20694]
lol...at least 5 more times...

tp24

09-07-2009 11:38:00

Glad to see we're talking about what's really important, the Indiana Jones movies, here. I was getting so depressed with all this MPell ARG bankruptcy stuff.

ohboyitsryan

09-07-2009 12:42:52

I wanna know how anyone is able to keep speaking to brad on the phone. what line are they using

box86rowh

09-07-2009 12:55:12

I am calling his cell phone...and no I wont share it...

hawke12

09-07-2009 12:55:25

[quote83f87921b0="ohboyitsryan"]I wanna know how anyone is able to keep speaking to brad on the phone. what line are they using[/quote83f87921b0]

They probably aren't....

oleus

09-07-2009 13:08:28

brad just admitted to me on aol instant messenger that he knows he's a massive tool and he will sell his kids' toys on ebay to give us our money!! awesome.

Eeyore

09-07-2009 13:31:55

He told me he's sending me his wife as payment.

oleus

09-07-2009 13:42:59

[quote82b0d702b0="Eeyore"]He told me he's sending me his wife as payment.[/quote82b0d702b0]

so you're only getting $50???

walrus9

09-07-2009 13:52:29

I just got the generic reply back from Sherry. I sent an e-mail when all this new stuff went down asking for clarification regarding bankruptcy and what-not and got this reply

"Dear XXXXXX,

Thank you for contacting us.

We are experiencing delays in cash back fulfillment. The delay is due to an overwhelming response to this program as well as the discovery of inconsistencies that has resulted in a full audit of the certificates. Please be assured that all qualified customers shall receive their check as soon as possible. Additionally, please note that you will receive your check directly from Active Response Group. Please do not contact Mpell Solutions as Mpell will not be involved in the final fulfillment of this program

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support"

I guess it's at least good to get a response.

ohboyitsryan

09-07-2009 13:52:43

so after the asset liquidation, what happens to everyones jobs at ARG? dunno how that all works out

moose_man

09-07-2009 13:53:51

[quote06e5036723="oleus"][quote06e5036723="Eeyore"]He told me he's sending me his wife as payment.[/quote06e5036723]

so you're only getting $50???[/quote06e5036723]

LOL!

But damn this sucks, I just moved into a new apartment and have a new address. Can I still get a hold of Brandarama CS and change my address so I can get this next letter that Brad speaks of.

FreeOffersNow

09-07-2009 14:03:27

[quotee2ae698d19="box86rowh"]I was told that by Grossman as well as the person running the process, Steve Gerbsman...[/quotee2ae698d19]


Their goals in this are the same...

climed

09-07-2009 14:39:14

[quote92dc56a1f2="box86rowh"]I just got off the phone with Kevin Grossman. He is the guy in charge at Hercules. He said that the senior creditors are being paid first. He also said there is a surprising amount of interest in ARG's assets. So the only thing that I see as a viable option is to wait until July 23 before I do anything...[/quote92dc56a1f2]

Since the buyers would be buying the company's assets and not the entire company, the buyers would not be assuming their debts.

That means the buyers won't be responsible for fulfilling our checks/gifts. That would still be the responsibility of ARG.

The money they get would go off paying the secure creditors first. This leaves us close to last in line and we won't get anything unless there is still money left over after paying all the creditors.

box86rowh

09-07-2009 14:54:21

I called Brad about the email just received above(I got two actually) and he said he is going to change the emails that are being sent out to explain what is going on...

oleus

09-07-2009 15:05:22

[quote9c7cd9e93b="box86rowh"]I called Brad about the email just received above(I got two actually) and he said he is going to change the emails that are being sent out to explain what is going on...[/quote9c7cd9e93b]

wow, that's AWESOME of him!

box86rowh

09-07-2009 15:06:11

lol

Eeyore

09-07-2009 15:17:24

Sorry, but why the fuck is he all the sudden Mr. Johnny On The Spot now when this has been going on for over two years.

I call BS.

box86rowh

09-07-2009 15:29:42

Because he sees himself free and clear of all this in 3 weeks...

Stkfree1

09-07-2009 15:31:11

Don't call BS. I inadvertently obtained Brad's cell as well (he called me from it, thinking I was someone else). But, he hasn't returned any of my calls since Monday morning.

PS I won't share the number (even though they don't play by the rules, I won't lower myself to their level).

oleus

09-07-2009 15:53:37

[quotee534e9453e="box86rowh"]Because he sees himself free and clear of all this in 3 weeks...[/quotee534e9453e]

he won't be free and clear of anything, i can assure you.

slambam

09-07-2009 15:54:47

[quote62ac055430="Stkfree1"]Don't call BS. I inadvertently obtained Brad's cell as well (he called me from it, thinking I was someone else). But, he hasn't returned any of my calls since Monday morning.

PS I won't share the number (even though they don't play by the rules, I won't lower myself to their level).[/quote62ac055430]

How much $ you want for it? lol jk

orangejuice

09-07-2009 18:02:52

i am willing to bet $500 that nobody here gets a dime, cant this thread just be closed already, we are beating a dead slave here. everyone should be thankful for what we have already received. i know i am! i ain't complaining

Stkfree1

09-07-2009 18:40:01

[quotea60dd05ef6="slambam"][quotea60dd05ef6="Stkfree1"]Don't call BS. I inadvertently obtained Brad's cell as well (he called me from it, thinking I was someone else). But, he hasn't returned any of my calls since Monday morning.

PS I won't share the number (even though they don't play by the rules, I won't lower myself to their level).[/quotea60dd05ef6]

How much $ you want for it? lol jk[/quotea60dd05ef6]

The sad thing was that when he left the voicemail and I heard "Hi, this is Brad Powers..." I thought he was going to say that my check was in the mail (

ohboyitsryan

09-07-2009 20:02:41

[quotee9d1178a7e="orangejuice"]i am willing to bet $500 that nobody here gets a dime, cant this thread just be closed already, we are beating a dead slave here. everyone should be thankful for what we have already received. i know i am! i ain't complaining[/quotee9d1178a7e]

a dead slave, for reals? bitch ass mother fucker watch what you say

dubbin87

09-07-2009 20:11:00

[quote45a68f1367="ohboyitsryan"][quote45a68f1367="orangejuice"]i am willing to bet $500 that nobody here gets a dime, cant this thread just be closed already, we are beating a dead slave here. everyone should be thankful for what we have already received. i know i am! i ain't complaining[/quote45a68f1367]

a dead slave, for reals? bitch ass mother fucker watch what you say[/quote45a68f1367]

ohboyitsethuggin

sexualintellectual

09-07-2009 20:26:44

[quotee699c18656="dubbin87"][quotee699c18656="ohboyitsryan"][quotee699c18656="orangejuice"]i am willing to bet $500 that nobody here gets a dime, cant this thread just be closed already, we are beating a dead slave here. everyone should be thankful for what we have already received. i know i am! i ain't complaining[/quotee699c18656]

a dead slave, for reals? bitch ass mother fucker watch what you say[/quotee699c18656]

ohboyitsethuggin[/quotee699c18656]

Hey guys, we have the whole thread to ourselves... can't we at least try to get along? I mean, come on...[=http//www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104359/?tag=Crips]come on...

ghounds07

09-07-2009 21:59:44

[quote4ee608485d="oleus"][quote4ee608485d="box86rowh"]Just got off the phone with Brad again. He said once the sale is complete, a letter will be sent out to people who are owed checks explaining the next step...well see...[/quote4ee608485d]

i'm having a real hard time taking someone who talks to brad so much, and has the worst movie (or at least the worst sequel) of all time as their avatar seriously.

honestly, where was this open line of communication before all of this happened? are you friends with the guy?

i am not trying to start something here, it's an honest question....there were about 20 steps before this when we all had questions that this brad powers hotline would have really helped us out.[/quote4ee608485d]

I've had his cell number for awhile now but it's not like it would have changed everything, he forwarded emails to priyanka for me but that never did anything. Couple weeks later I began calling again and now this happened, so no real difference, if anyone wants the number just PM me, who gives a shit anyway, no one here is getting personal/unique checks anymore.

tp24

09-07-2009 22:27:04

Are they still offering that 80% "discount" deal? That sounds awfully tempting right now

ghounds07

09-07-2009 22:41:54

believe it was more like 20%

paulyhasit

10-07-2009 02:35:14

i got mail saying they were still doing audits.

kinneylamb

10-07-2009 03:16:32

[quote4bea7c8962="paulyhasit"]i got mail saying they were still doing audits.[/quote4bea7c8962]
do you mean an e-mail from customer service, replying back to you?

dakare

10-07-2009 04:45:23

I finally heard from them too, 3 times. But they were the same old generic response-yada yada yada. But hearing from them is better than not.

dougp70

10-07-2009 06:36:23

[quotee11a189aec="orangejuice"]i am willing to bet $500 that nobody here gets a dime, cant this thread just be closed already, we are beating a dead slave here. everyone should be thankful for what we have already received. i know i am! i ain't complaining[/quotee11a189aec]


Some of us haven't received anything yet.

DRay9911

10-07-2009 06:47:53

i received my check today!!!!!































....direct deposit, it's payday D

-dan

box86rowh

10-07-2009 07:54:51

I told you he would change the response....here is what I got...lol

Thank you for contacting us.

Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
Brandarama Member Support

newmomi0329

10-07-2009 08:06:43

So this is weird....every day I go to brandarama.com to check on my gift status. Today was like no other, EXCEPT they are offering a TON of gifts now? What the hell does this mean? They can continue to lure people in and just not pay anyone old or new? Check it out at brandarama.com. Yesterday, there was nothing on this page, now 15 different gifts you can sign up for. WTF!!!

newmomi0329

10-07-2009 08:13:43

Something else just for shits and giggles...I had emailed customer service a few emails last week and did not get a return email (not even the crappy ones) and today, all of a sudden, sitting in my inbox were responses. And get this, it's the exact same response even though my questions for each of the 5 emails were totally different. They definitely need to change their candid response. I'm tired of reading the same thing. Even if it's BS, give me something new to keep it interesting.

JANGALANG32

10-07-2009 08:19:31

say the sale happens and everyone gets paid off but us and there is 2 million left to pay the 3 million owed to us. do you think they would pay off the highest owed 1st? give a percentage of it to everyone?

im not counting on anything but how funny would it be if half of us got paid and the rest got nothing! haha, what a mess this is.

also, does anyone else think the reward depot discussion thread will end up like this also? 8 offers $2500 is the ARG business model right?

Eeyore

10-07-2009 08:51:20

What happens? Brad runs off with the $2 million.

Actually, they would probably offer 10 to 20 cents on the dollar as an immediate settlement.

About the ARG sites suddenly springing back to life...that is either the last gasp to lure more suckers to bid (the company looks very much alive and kicking to the uninformed) or one very bad joke. The optimist in me would think it might mean there is a chance of ARG continuing as an ongoing concern but the optimist in me is off on vacation trying to forget the $2,100 screwing he got at the hands of Mr. Powers and Co.

Stkfree1

10-07-2009 09:00:37

[quote0b84721bad="DRay9911"]i received my check today!!!!!

For real?





























....direct deposit, it's payday D

-dan[/quote0b84721bad]

Stkfree1

10-07-2009 11:51:11

Ok, I'm pissed.

When I called him this morning, I said my name & what I was calling about...he hung up.

box86rowh

10-07-2009 12:28:23

LOL....thats funny...

ashilef

10-07-2009 12:32:18

[quote4dbfb57111="DRay9911"]i received my check today!!!!!































....direct deposit, it's payday D

-dan[/quote4dbfb57111]

Um..this was cute the first time, but now not so much. roll

RyanG

10-07-2009 12:32:38

Lol brad might be changing that number soon I feel like.

kinneylamb

10-07-2009 23:15:24

[quote088a93293a="newmomi0329"]So this is weird....every day I go to brandarama.com to check on my gift status. Today was like no other, EXCEPT they are offering a TON of gifts now? What the hell does this mean? They can continue to lure people in and just not pay anyone old or new? Check it out at brandarama.com. Yesterday, there was nothing on this page, now 15 different gifts you can sign up for. WTF!!![/quote088a93293a]

this is how they are doing the brandarama sites now. first they did it with brandarama select, now brandarama. what next, yourtopbrands probably

Eeyore

11-07-2009 10:15:59

That's the way they all used to be before the trademark threats they got a couple of years ago.

For example, here's an archive from January 2006 http//web.archive.org/web/20060105063346/http//www.brandarama.com/

ploppsdman

11-07-2009 20:13:51

It's absolute bs that they are still operating ...

mensday

12-07-2009 06:36:20

It's absolute fraud that they have been collecting money from these sites for the last two years (and still are) and have not paid anyone. They are just stealing this money to pay other bills. They need to be shut down now. What a bunch of lowlife thieves.

fbskiracer

12-07-2009 09:54:47

[quoted718737144="mensday"]It's absolute fraud that they have been collecting money from these sites for the last two years (and still are) and have not paid anyone. They are just stealing this money to pay other bills. They need to be shut down now. What a bunch of lowlife thieves.[/quoted718737144]

I wholeheartedly agree. I kind of wonder if the payment to dmorris was done to keep us quiet. I'm not saying he was in on it but it wouldn't be too hard to pay him as a 'community leader' to keep all of us more quiet. That was the only thing that actually stopped me from filing in court. I mean, if I was trying to screw people I'd make a highly visible payment I knew would get publicized to buy some time.


However I agree that it is fraud to continually accept revenues but stop making payments.

kinneylamb

12-07-2009 21:28:25

not to burst anyone's bubble, but theres not that many people who post here or view here regularly even, relatively speaking. theres so much more people who participated who dont come here. so they'd only be satisfying a handful of us. but the vast majority of their customers would still be waiting or forgot about it.

mctrask

12-07-2009 21:47:17

[quote4fe2614db8="kinneylamb"]not to burst anyone's bubble, but theres not that many people who post here or view here regularly even, relatively speaking. theres so much more people who participated who dont come here. so they'd only be satisfying a handful of us. but the vast majority of their customers would still be waiting or forgot about it.[/quote4fe2614db8]

I don't know about that. Remember, MPell said they received over 7,000 certificates.

bennyboy5768

12-07-2009 22:36:57

[quote970121b0d6="mctrask"][quote970121b0d6="kinneylamb"]not to burst anyone's bubble, but theres not that many people who post here or view here regularly even, relatively speaking. theres so much more people who participated who dont come here. so they'd only be satisfying a handful of us. but the vast majority of their customers would still be waiting or forgot about it.[/quote970121b0d6]

I don't know about that. Remember, MPell said they received over 7,000 certificates.[/quote970121b0d6]

I wonder if its 7000 people who sent in certificates or just 7000 certificates because I'm sure many of us received several of them, myself included. I can account to 5 of those and I surely wont be forgetting about it for any time soon.

kinneylamb

13-07-2009 05:34:41

i think its the 7000 who sent in and got approved, annd even that might be 7000 checks taking combined certificates. anyway nobody's getting paid, and idk the point of stalling by paying someone when it means nothing, and idk if they wanted ppl to see it cause there was no garauntee someone would post about getting paid, and at the rate this thread gets updated its a longshot google searchers would find it, anyway the company is a bankrupt piece of shlit whether it wants to admit it or not until they prove otherwise, stalling us along all this time making us out to be fools, man there's a way of handling it if your company's not on the up and up and they did not handle it right

manOFice

13-07-2009 09:01:31

Odd, I just got a email from this. I didn't make a inquiry

New Inquiry lililililililililililililili
Brandarama Member Support
to pjlagerquist

show details 1158 AM (2 minutes ago)


Reply

Follow up message
from Brandarama Member Support <support>
to email==pjlagerquist@yahoo.compjlagerquist@yahoo.com=pjlagerquist@yahoo.compjlagerquist@yahoo.com/email
date Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1158 AM
subject New Inquiry lililililililililili

box86rowh

13-07-2009 09:09:33

I got 3 of those for some reason...

doylnea

13-07-2009 09:15:38

[quote0403dcd003]DearBrandarama Customer,

According to our records, you may be a claimant of Brandarama. Active Response Group,
Inc. (“ARG”) is the parent company of Brandarama. As you know, many businesses have been hurt badly by the financial downturn and the credit crunch that followed the collapse of the subprime mortgage markets. ARG, like many other firms, though not involved in any way in those activities, has seen its revenues drop dramatically. As a result, we found ourselves in very serious financial difficulty.
Despite taking various steps to reduce our costs and preserve value, we became unable to make our debt payments to our senior lender, Hercules Technology Growth Capital, Inc. (“Hercules”). Hercules had lent ARG $10,000,000, which senior loans were secured by all of our assets. Since we were unable to pay our current payments, Hercules declared the loans in default and began to exercise its rights under the loan agreements and State law to recover its loans outstanding through an agreed upon asset sale process.
Through this process, ARG is working with Hercules to complete the sale of all of ARG’s assets in an auction. In the meantime, Hercules has agreed to permit us to use its collateral to fund a bare bones operating budget in order to allow ARG to continue enough operations to be able to still seek a buyer of ARG as something like a going concern. Unfortunately, since any claims you might have are unsecured, and therefore in any liquidation scenario would be junior to the claims of Hercules, who holds a valid senior security interest in ARG’s assets and any proceeds from the sale of ARG assets, no funds have been allocated in the budget to satisfy any consumer prize claims.
Hercules’ agents have scheduled the bidding on ARG’s assets to end on July 23. Only after the results of all of Hercules’ and ARG’s Management’s efforts to sell our assets and business are determined will we be able to say whether there will be any funds left over after Hercules applies the proceeds of any such sale to its loans outstanding. At this juncture, we cannot determine whether there will be any surplus at all. However, if there is sufficient interest by a sufficient number of bidders, it is still a possibility.
Should you have any questions, please contact us via email= at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com/email. While our customer service center is no longer in operation, if we are in a legal and operational position to do so, we shall try to keep you informed of material developments in this process. We are of course very disheartened by this turn of events, as we know you must be. We thank you for your patronage and wish you the best.
Very truly yours,
Customer Care Department[/quote0403dcd003]

Translation - no money is expected to be available to pay us.

Spinxter

13-07-2009 09:15:51

DearBrandarama Customer,


According to our records, you may be a claimant of Brandarama. Active Response Group,
Inc. (“ARG”) is the parent company of Brandarama. As you know, many businesses have been hurt badly by the financial downturn and the credit crunch that followed the collapse of the subprime mortgage markets. ARG, like many other firms, though not involved in any way in those activities, has seen its revenues drop dramatically. As a result, we found ourselves in very serious financial difficulty.
Despite taking various steps to reduce our costs and preserve value, we became unable to make our debt payments to our senior lender, Hercules Technology Growth Capital, Inc. (“Hercules”). Hercules had lent ARG $10,000,000, which senior loans were secured by all of our assets. Since we were unable to pay our current payments, Hercules declared the loans in default and began to exercise its rights under the loan agreements and State law to recover its loans outstanding through an agreed upon asset sale process.
Through this process, ARG is working with Hercules to complete the sale of all of ARG’s assets in an auction. In the meantime, Hercules has agreed to permit us to use its collateral to fund a bare bones operating budget in order to allow ARG to continue enough operations to be able to still seek a buyer of ARG as something like a going concern. Unfortunately, since any claims you might have are unsecured, and therefore in any liquidation scenario would be junior to the claims of Hercules, who holds a valid senior security interest in ARG’s assets and any proceeds from the sale of ARG assets, no funds have been allocated in the budget to satisfy any consumer prize claims.
Hercules’ agents have scheduled the bidding on ARG’s assets to end on July 23. Only after the results of all of Hercules’ and ARG’s Management’s efforts to sell our assets and business are determined will we be able to say whether there will be any funds left over after Hercules applies the proceeds of any such sale to its loans outstanding. At this juncture, we cannot determine whether there will be any surplus at all. However, if there is sufficient interest by a sufficient number of bidders, it is still a possibility.
Should you have any questions, please contact us via email= at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com at email=support@cs.brandarama.comsupport@cs.brandarama.com/email. While our customer service center is no longer in operation, if we are in a legal and operational position to do so, we shall try to keep you informed of material developments in this process. We are of course very disheartened by this turn of events, as we know you must be. We thank you for your patronage and wish you the best.
Very truly yours,
Customer Care Department

manOFice

13-07-2009 09:16:46

yeah, everyone f'ed

Zags1199

13-07-2009 09:19:13

/thread

dakare

13-07-2009 09:24:30

well at least all the speculation is over. They screwed us and it is final.

oleus

13-07-2009 09:26:06

yep. the only possible recourse we would have is against mpell and that's a longshot.

indymom

13-07-2009 09:30:37

I was trying to be realistic, I knew we weren't going to get our money, but there was still that tiny ray of hope I was holding on to.

Gone.

And the worse part is, my husband told me from the start this was a scam. Damn. I just hate being wrong!

orangejuice

13-07-2009 09:39:29

It wasnt a scam, i got over $20k from them over the years, its just that the newcomers got screwed. I knew it was over months ago but why did they even bother going through the whole audit process

FreeOffersNow

13-07-2009 09:41:59

Meh...

ARG 1
Me 0

/me writes off as a loss the time and expenses related to completing the required offers

Let's add ARG to the list of PrizeCube, Coobro, and Gusto (I'm sure there are many more...those are just the 3 that come to mind at the moment).

box86rowh

13-07-2009 09:57:03

We screwed...

walrus9

13-07-2009 10:25:54

The only thing that really frustrates me in this whole mess is mpell's involvement. They are the only reason I went out and got gift cards. If there name hadn't have been on anything, I wouldn't have gone out and purchased the gift cards. Grrr....

DRay9911

13-07-2009 10:57:13

i'm glad i bought gift cards at places where i already go (walmart & costco).

guess all i'm out is the money i spent on offers 17 and 10 months ago, which wasn't much.

bummer.

-dan

oandm6599

13-07-2009 11:03:52

The real beef I have is that they had us go buy products, a second and unnecessary step, if all they were going to do was file for bankruptcy. Why include a third party company in Mpell if they might have known that nothing would come back to us in return. It's just really frustrating after having waited this long, almost two years, and now they say we're getting nothing.

For all those who are seriously considering legal action, is legal action a realistic option? Is there something collective we could do on these boards to initiate legal action without being out money?

And no it's not a scam, but I still think that even though I may have been paid in the past, that's no reason to comply with these current events and just say, "Well, I got paid before in the past". They need to follow through on these certificates as well. It's no fault of ours that we did these offers years ago just like we always had for us then to be told that we can't get our money/gift cards because of their incompetence.

I'm just venting. Thanks for listening.

oandm6599

michae229

13-07-2009 11:10:15

honestly I'm happy I bought and returned my stuff and told my friends to do the same, you call it scamming I call it not being a fool....

dougp70

13-07-2009 11:20:31

I can't believe I'm not going to get the PS3 I've been waiting a year for. I already bought games for the damn thing. FUCK!

dakare

13-07-2009 11:35:57

I kinda agree with oandm. Why can't we file a class action suit or something? We were owed our money (at least mine) over 18 months ago. It's just hard to believe there is nothing we can do.

Eeyore

13-07-2009 11:57:59

[quote89bb79be9f="oandm6599"]The real beef I have is that they had us go buy products, a second and unnecessary step, if all they were going to do was file for bankruptcy. [/quote89bb79be9f]
ARG didn't file for bankruptcy protection...Hercules declared the $10 million loan in default and essentially seized ARG's assets which had been pledged as collateral. ARG now has no assets and is operating a sham company with Hercules' permission and money in order to fluff up whatever bidding might be going on out of the view of our prying eyes. Unless there is a shocking amount of interest in ARG as an ongoing company Hercules will be lucky to get back half of what they are owed, and we won't be getting anything.

A little simple math shows how much of a disaster ARG is. If there are indeed 7000 Mpell certificates outstanding, and even if each one is "only" for $1000, ARG is into us for $7 million. Mine were $1600 and I would guess most others were even more than that. If they can't meet their senior note payments there is no way they had any chance of paying us even last year before Hercules brought the hammer down.

So while Brad and Company had to know that their little boat was taking on water at an alarming rate as early as 2007 when gift fulfillment essentially stopped, any lawsuit claims would be against ARG, which would be worth nothing come July 23 so there would be no chance of collecting a judgment.

It just sucks. No way around it. You can try to crush the principals on principle, but they've already bailed out and what they did is not necessarily actionable from a personal liability standpoint.

RolltheStampede

13-07-2009 12:47:27

i would put each cert at 500 average buy still 3.5 mill. yeah not happening, can we make a fake company to drive the bidding up like people do on ebay.

tp24

13-07-2009 12:52:03

Shoulda taken that discount deal. Somebody hold me before I break my laptop

oleus

13-07-2009 12:57:01

[quoteccd922d930="tp24"]Shoulda taken that discount deal. Somebody hold me before I break my laptop[/quoteccd922d930]

i feel like breaking my laptop too, but it was one of the things i bought for the Mpell deal so then i'd really be shooting myself in the foot.

At least it seems like a lot of us were smart and bought giftcards to cover certificates, then used the same giftcards to buy more items (i needed to buy anyway) for the rest of the certificates. That lessened the blow for me, that's for sure, but still the whole thing is like a comedy of terrible errors.

I'd also like to know if there was ever any kind of second audit going on or if that was total and complete BS. Just for fun i'd like to know....

ashilef

13-07-2009 13:02:03

[quote791cdefbdd="michae229"]honestly I'm happy I bought and returned my stuff and told my friends to do the same, you call it scamming I call it not being a fool....[/quote791cdefbdd]

THIS!!!!

oleus

13-07-2009 13:05:06

[quote73fae7c137="ashilef"][quote73fae7c137="michae229"]honestly I'm happy I bought and returned my stuff and told my friends to do the same, you call it scamming I call it not being a fool....[/quote73fae7c137]

THIS!!!![/quote73fae7c137]

the whole act of having to go buy items to get reimbursed didn't even make any sense in the first place. i didn't return anything but i sure can't blame someone for doing so. especially given what's happened!!! what a joke.

ashilef

13-07-2009 13:10:58

I feel bad for people who were new to DIY and did these sites. I'm just glad I had the experience of dealing with companies that actually paid out, so I'm not totally turned off to doing freebies.

So glad I didn't get my family and friends to do these crap sites.

Eeyore

13-07-2009 13:29:27

Yeah, in the end I'm only out about $100 for offers over three sites, and most of that is for stuff I liked anyway. It has been a good run (Niutech, Shop.freepay, et. al.) but I think it's over...Ideal can't last much longer.

mjforever

13-07-2009 13:54:51

[quote092054924f="ashilef"]I feel bad for people who were new to DIY and did these sites. I'm just glad I had the experience of dealing with companies that actually paid out, so I'm not totally turned off to doing freebies.

So glad I didn't get my family and friends to do these crap sites.[/quote092054924f]
-

I am in that situation now. I referred friends and family to this site. They received nothing. Plus the reward depot did not pay them also. I feel really bad about this situation. They even think that this whole freebie are scam.

manOFice

13-07-2009 14:47:24

yeah i'm super glad I didn't get my friends into this company. I would refer all friends and family to ideal

dougp70

13-07-2009 14:54:37

Guess who?

dougp70

13-07-2009 14:59:00

Sorry for that last one, here it is.



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ohboyitsryan

13-07-2009 15:08:57

I hate that bitch

michae229

13-07-2009 15:11:44

[quote7b11d3e33b="ohboyitsryan"]I hate that bitch[/quote7b11d3e33b]

who is she?

Zags1199

13-07-2009 15:19:16

[quote7ab9a564dd="michae229"][quote7ab9a564dd="ohboyitsryan"]I hate that bitch[/quote7ab9a564dd]

who is she?[/quote7ab9a564dd]

Priyanka Yadav, ARG's Director of Fulfillment.

oleus

13-07-2009 15:22:10

and currently unemployed?

ashilef

13-07-2009 15:30:53

[quotef1a29b4b1e="oleus"]and currently unemployed?[/quotef1a29b4b1e]

Maybe...

mistertomlinson

13-07-2009 15:46:55

Maaaaaaaaaan, it looks like I'll never get that new (used) car I wanted... looks like I better actually start changing the oil in the one I got. cry

LucaBella

13-07-2009 16:09:50

I think we should just stalk Brad til the end of time.. never give that bitch a moment of ease...

they could have declared BK, but no, they had us jump through hoops and spend our own money and lie to us every step of the way... Watching you burn, brad.

EatChex89

13-07-2009 16:23:27

I'm pissed. I bought a fucking laptop to get he $500 that was due to me back in 07. What a fucking joke, why didn't they at least just say that they couldn't pay us? Then I'd have only been out 20$.

Fuck this shit.

oleus

13-07-2009 16:33:50

[quote25e9e5f01d="EatChex89"]I'm pissed. I bought a fucking laptop to get he $500 that was due to me back in 07. What a fucking joke, why didn't they at least just say that they couldn't pay us? Then I'd have only been out 20$.

Fuck this shit.[/quote25e9e5f01d]

yeah, if it was all about weeding us out with the mpell certificates, if they weren't going to pay what did it matter to them whether they weeded people out? f'ing ridiculous, unethical, unprofessional, unkind and i still think CRIMINAL!!!!!!!!!

cobaltmonkey

13-07-2009 16:37:06

What is our recourse? They gotta be breaking the law.

ghounds07

13-07-2009 17:54:14

[quote3ed6a195ed="Eeyore"]It has been a good run (Niutech, Shop.freepay, et. al.) but I think it's over...Ideal can't last much longer.[/quote3ed6a195ed]

I don't think it is over, I think the people who run these companies need to realize what they can and cannot do (ie. 3 offers for $500). I doubt this industry will go away for some time to come...

oleus

13-07-2009 17:56:36

[quoteea4f0165a5="cobaltmonkey"]What is our recourse? They gotta be breaking the law.[/quoteea4f0165a5]\

even if it's futile everyone needs to get attorney general complaints out to NY and CA clearly laying out what happened with the mpell certificates that required us to spend our money before we could get reimbursed.

BradPowersScrewedMe

13-07-2009 18:28:25

Brad's Cell Phone 646 - 228 - 5024

liIf it doesn't pick up, it goes straight to his company voicemail.

Don't ask who I got it from, I don't out my sources.

ashilef

13-07-2009 18:37:27

Damn, lol I have the feeling this dude's phone is about to be ringing off the hook.

mistertomlinson

13-07-2009 18:37:41

lisigh... this is such a tough situation. It's one thing not to pay anyone... we don't put THAT much time, effort or money into this, but it's another thing to make 1,000s (if not more) go out and spend money they otherwise wouldn't have spent, just to tell them they would not be reimbursed. They made people go out and spend a combined millions for nothing... that's A LOT of other people's money to be fucking around with! I can only imagine how many people's credit will suffer as a result of ARG's poor choices. I mean... they've crossed more than one line here.

Shipping times started slowing down drastically a couple years ago, being a clear indication that they were in over their heads, but nothing was done about it. Now it's too late.

oleus

13-07-2009 19:04:54

[quotecebf3f03b1="mistertomlinson"]lisigh... this is such a tough situation. It's one thing not to pay anyone... we don't put THAT much time, effort or money into this, but it's another thing to make 1,000s (if not more) go out and spend money they otherwise wouldn't have spent, just to tell them they would not be reimbursed. They made people go out and spend a combined millions for nothing... that's A LOT of other people's money to be fucking around with! I can only imagine how many people's credit will suffer as a result of ARG's poor choices. I mean... they've crossed more than one line here.

Shipping times started slowing down drastically a couple years ago, being a clear indication that they were in over their heads, but nothing was done about it. Now it's too late.[/quotecebf3f03b1]

they definitely have crossed the line and i think we should have some recourse, even if it's not getting our money back.

kinneylamb

13-07-2009 21:48:10

keep filing complaints, thats your recourse. dont stop just because they sent that e-mail.

someone should forward the e-mail to mpell, just to show them what bullshit they put us through, and never to get involved with ARG or anything like that again

ploppsdman

13-07-2009 21:51:04

There are things I wanted to do with that money ... well, at least that's the end of ARG. Time to get those attorney general complaints sent as my last official ARG act. #@$#@$ers

Stkfree1

13-07-2009 22:19:34

[quote62f05b39e8="BradPowersScrewedMe"]Brad's Cell Phone 646 - 228 - 5024

liIf it doesn't pick up, it goes straight to his company voicemail.

Don't ask who I got it from, I don't out my sources.[/quote62f05b39e8]

That's the number I have too.

ashilef

13-07-2009 22:54:49

So I went to my status page just for shits & giggles, and what do I see at the very top? That long ass email they sent to people earlier today. But tell me why I can still log on and see my gifts? LOL this is so fucking stupid!

hawke12

14-07-2009 09:45:15

Disregard this post.

hawke12

14-07-2009 09:46:58

[quote822bd87624]
Unfortunately, since any claims you might have are unsecured, and
therefore in any liquidation scenario would be junior to the claims of
Hercules, who holds a valid senior security interest in ARG's assets
and any proceeds from the sale of ARG assets, no funds have been
allocated in the budget to satisfy any consumer prize claims.
[/quote822bd87624]

Blatant "F#CK You In the @ss, with a BIG Rubber D#CK!" Statement,

Talk about insult to injury....

Eeyore

14-07-2009 10:47:37

There hasn't been any funds allocated in the budget to satisfy any customer claims since 2007 when they borrowed the $10 million from Hercules in the first place. Brad and Company have been livin' large on Hercules money for the last two years.

With any luck ARG's assets will fetch less than $1 million and Hercules will go after Brad personally.

ohboyitsryan

14-07-2009 12:08:45

if anyone has priyankas contact info aka a cell phone, pls post that shit. got on some things she needs to hear from me..

JANGALANG32

14-07-2009 12:42:15

[quote292609c015="ohboyitsryan"]if anyone has priyankas contact info aka a cell phone, pls post that shit. got on some things she needs to hear from me..[/quote292609c015]

i would like to hear these things

paulyhasit

14-07-2009 13:35:32

i never got the email... craziness

dougp70

14-07-2009 14:41:14

This was the info on Priyanka from the BBB. It was listed with the picture I posted yesterday. Not sure if it's right, but give it a try.

(877) 312-7263
100 Arapahoe, Suite 2
Boulder, CO 80302

dougp70

14-07-2009 14:43:02

Check out this for more numbers and info.....

http//freebiescoop.com/

ohboyitsryan

14-07-2009 17:29:44

the shitty thing is that if the oct 07 cts ppl had jumped on their sites just a few weeks before in sept 07, they would have been paid.

orangejuice

14-07-2009 18:50:06

im going to send 5000 text messages to his number, his phone may not receive them all, but his bill will certainly show it. gotta love skype lol

dmorris68

14-07-2009 18:56:12

[quote5edd7ea4f5="fbskiracer"]I wholeheartedly agree. I kind of wonder if the payment to dmorris was done to keep us quiet. I'm not saying he was in on it but it wouldn't be too hard to pay him as a 'community leader' to keep all of us more quiet. [/quote5edd7ea4f5]
Whoa, back up. Don't know who you're confusing me with, but I've never seen a dime from Brandarama, nor would I since I've never actually completed one of their sites.

[quote5edd7ea4f5="Stkfree1"][quote5edd7ea4f5="BradPowersScrewedMe"]Brad's Cell Phone 646 - 228 - 5024

liIf it doesn't pick up, it goes straight to his company voicemail.

Don't ask who I got it from, I don't out my sources.[/quote5edd7ea4f5]

That's the number I have too.[/quote5edd7ea4f5]
I expect it would be, since you created the BradPowersScrewedMe account to post it. I'm banning the BPSM account, and only under these extraordinary circumstances am I giving you a pass for doing so. For future reference, creating a dupe account is against the forum rules and could result in a ban next time.

ghounds07

14-07-2009 20:29:23

believed he confused you with manofice.

oleus

14-07-2009 22:10:11

i thought a few days of cooling off would help me but it has not. i'm more angry than before now. i can only hope with the markets tanking and unemployment really keeping things depressed that brad powers has a harder time getting another ponzi scheme going.

madmanx33

15-07-2009 00:48:10

Explain to me how they run out of money when they havnt paid anyone in 2 years . Lets not forget all the traffic they generated and amount of revenue from ads

wiebelhaus03

15-07-2009 00:56:52

damn, guess i'll never see my $1k visa cts oct 08....

kinneylamb

15-07-2009 02:09:39

if brandarama knew about their situation (they had to) at the time they issued the mpell certificates, they caused damage to people by making them buy things and lose money they knew would never get back. statute of limitations would not help brandarama there. thats where they have a legal problem, they asked people to spend money to stay in the program, meanwhile their balance sheet could not fulfill the gifts.

kinneylamb

15-07-2009 02:12:02

[quote7eb91682bd="dmorris68"]I expect it would be, since you created the BradPowersScrewedMe account to post it. I'm banning the BPSM account, and only under these extraordinary circumstances am I giving you a pass for doing so. For future reference, creating a dupe account is against the forum rules and could result in a ban next time.[/quote7eb91682bd]
do you need to be so harsh about that forum rule right now.. people got hurt in here

mistertomlinson

15-07-2009 05:11:56

[quote3a243db900="kinneylamb"][quote3a243db900="dmorris68"]I expect it would be, since you created the BradPowersScrewedMe account to post it. I'm banning the BPSM account, and only under these extraordinary circumstances am I giving you a pass for doing so. For future reference, creating a dupe account is against the forum rules and could result in a ban next time.[/quote3a243db900]
do you need to be so harsh about that forum rule right now.. people got hurt in here[/quote3a243db900]

Jesus Christ, a rule's a rule. Like it was really necessary for him to create another account to post the phone number anyway... what's Mr. Powers gonna do with his FiPG username. The LEAST anyone could do is post his personal info publicly. HA!

dougp70

15-07-2009 06:22:41

Brad Powers is CEO of Activate Response Groups. Through the Brandarama network of incentive websites they kept from paying customers for over a year. Brad Powers is currently running this scam company. Brad Powers received his MBA and BA in Psychology from Clark University. Rather than paying his customers the money they are owed, he has chosen to do other things with it. See how Brad Powers is spending your money.

Obviously we know how freebie sites work, that’s our job. But with Active Response Group’s huge cash flow issues, we question whether this is an actual ponzi scheme.

Hang out with Brad Powers @ his home

(removed)

Or maybe you want to email= Brad? email=Brad@ActiveResponseGroup.comBrad@ActiveResponseGroup.com Brad? email=Brad@ActiveResponseGroup.comBrad@ActiveResponseGroup.com/email

Or better yet, why not give him a ring? (212) 255-3941

Offline relationships are just so expensive these days though. Why not be Brad Powers’ friend on Facebook?

Brad Powers grew up with his parents, (removed)

========================================
Current investigative work
Here’s a picture of Brad Powers with his wife and son.


Here’s the White Pages listing for Brad

(removed)

dougp70

15-07-2009 06:27:02

Missing graphic from last post....

(removed)

JANGALANG32

15-07-2009 09:05:40

[quoteb3b2740087="dougp70"]Brad Powers is CEO of Activate Response Groups. Through the Brandarama network of incentive websites they kept from paying customers for over a year. Brad Powers is currently running this scam company. Brad Powers received his MBA and BA in Psychology from Clark University. Rather than paying his customers the money they are owed, he has chosen to do other things with it. See how Brad Powers is spending your money.

Obviously we know how freebie sites work, that’s our job. But with Active Response Group’s huge cash flow issues, we question whether this is an actual ponzi scheme.

Hang out with Brad Powers @ his home

(removed)

Or maybe you want to email= Brad? email=Brad@ActiveResponseGroup.comBrad@ActiveResponseGroup.com Brad? email=Brad@ActiveResponseGroup.comBrad@ActiveResponseGroup.com/email

Or better yet, why not give him a ring? (212) 255-3941

Offline relationships are just so expensive these days though. Why not be Brad Powers’ friend on Facebook?

(removed)

========================================
Current investigative work
Here’s a picture of Brad Powers with his wife and son.


Here’s the White Pages listing for Brad


(removed)[/quoteb3b2740087]

i hate brad powers as much as they rest of you but its not right to mention anyone in his family not involved. what if some nut on here pays a visit to his house and does unthinkable things? how would you feel?

the fact that he tried/did put us in debt (mpell, and i returned my purchases) and ran this company for years collecting money with no intentions of paying us out is criminal and i would like to see him in jail but nothing further than that.


what if brad came up with the mpell certificates to give him 10 more weeks at least of collecting money on the sponsors knowing full well the ship was sinking? would he put us in debt for his personal gain?

ploppsdman

15-07-2009 10:13:08

The worlds got enough cruelity in it. I don't see how siding with that and creating more is going to benefit anyone. File with the NY Attorney General, contact a lawyer, but don't play with vindictiveness and its friends.

hawke12

15-07-2009 10:37:48

He should be strung up by his balls, and executed PUBLICLY!

Yeah I said it, so what ....he should be.

Nothing will happen to him, Legally. NOTHING.

Hercules, and whoever else will take whatever they can. They will close up shop. Open a new LLC, and start all over again.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hercules was involved in it some how. What a way to launder Money, but through a fake, dying, nearly bankrupt company.

Remember while we're out our Owed money. Mr. Powers and his FAMILY are sitting High in they're New York Bungalow, thanks to yours, and many many others $8-$50 spent on advertiser offers to finish his sites ;)

DRay9911

15-07-2009 12:21:46

jesus....you're kidding, right?

strung up by his balls....executed....money laundering....seriously?

one of these days, one of you is going to say something so stupid that it will be just enough to get this thread locked.

-dan

oleus

15-07-2009 12:27:40

[quotee744abb25f="DRay9911"]jesus....you're kidding, right?

strung up by his balls....executed....money laundering....seriously?

one of these days, one of you is going to say something so stupid that it will be just enough to get this thread locked.

-dan[/quotee744abb25f]

while i agree with you about the more overboard comments, why is accusing them of money laundering out of line? it sounds like a very real possibility something like that occured.

hawke12

15-07-2009 12:37:19

[quoteb3666ac602="DRay9911"]jesus....you're kidding, right?

strung up by his balls....executed....money laundering....seriously?

one of these days, one of you is going to say something so stupid that it will be just enough to get this thread locked.

-dan[/quoteb3666ac602]

Absolutely serious, and I bet there's others here that feel the same way, just too scared to say so...So I speak for those anonymous people....

ohboyitsryan

15-07-2009 12:42:11

I say it all the time. fuck brad, fuck priyanka. they are both punk ass bitches, where bruman at with priyankas number

mensday

15-07-2009 18:36:33

Please continue to post as much information as you have about Brad Powers and anyone who knows him. I'll make sure his neighbors, family members, and friends know what a lowlife crook he is.

oleus

15-07-2009 18:57:30

[quote62846f4805="mensday"]Please continue to post as much information as you have about Brad Powers and anyone who knows him. I'll make sure his neighbors, family members, and friends know what a lowlife crook he is.[/quote62846f4805]

that's the spirit!

we all got robbed. hopefully justice will prevail.

ltgeneralkasty

15-07-2009 20:12:58

[quote19e017bd06="oleus"][quote19e017bd06="mensday"]Please continue to post as much information as you have about Brad Powers and anyone who knows him. I'll make sure his neighbors, family members, and friends know what a lowlife crook he is.[/quote19e017bd06]

that's the spirit!

we all got robbed. hopefully justice will prevail.[/quote19e017bd06]

Checked my offers email account for the first time in two months and found the "we're dead and gone" email (actually five of them, all the same). There were also three blank emails that had subject headers similar to "tickets" created when you emailed brandarama.

Spirit? I'd like a couple minutes alone with Mr. Powers, but going after his family, neighbors, and friends? Unless they have involvement in this whole brouhaha, that's a bit over the edge. focus on mr. powers.

edgespeeder04

15-07-2009 20:46:59

well that f-in sucks, guess we aren't getting a penny.

beerman

15-07-2009 20:58:48

interesting article....32 Million in revenue and we get $0....

"Robust Growth Since inception, the Company has grown very impressively, with revenues increasing from $1 million to $32 million between 2004 and 2008."

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/

dmorris68

15-07-2009 22:04:36

[quote8671471ca1="kinneylamb"]do you need to be so harsh about that forum rule right now.. people got hurt in here[/quote8671471ca1]
How about you leave the forum moderating to the trained professionals, eh? You might get hurt or something, and we'd feel awful.

[quote8671471ca1="dougp70"]Brad Powers is CEO of Activate Response Groups. Through the Brandarama network of incentive websites they kept from paying customers for over a year. Brad Powers is currently running this scam company. Brad Powers received his MBA and BA in Psychology from Clark University. Rather than paying his customers the money they are owed, he has chosen to do other things with it. See how Brad Powers is spending your money.

Obviously we know how freebie sites work, that’s our job. But with Active Response Group’s huge cash flow issues, we question whether this is an actual ponzi scheme.

Hang out with Brad Powers @ his home

(removed)

Or maybe you want to email= Brad? email=Brad@ActiveResponseGroup.comBrad@ActiveResponseGroup.com Brad? email=Brad@ActiveResponseGroup.comBrad@ActiveResponseGroup.com/email

Or better yet, why not give him a ring? (212) 255-3941

Offline relationships are just so expensive these days though. Why not be Brad Powers’ friend on Facebook?

Brad Powers grew up with his parents, (removed)

========================================
Current investigative work
Here’s a picture of Brad Powers with his wife and son.


Here’s the White Pages listing for Brad

(removed)[/quote8671471ca1]

As much as you may hate Brad Powers, his family has no part in this. Publicly outing his family members is entirely uncool and opens yourself and this forum up to all sorts of liability should some nutcase use it to harm someone. They no more deserve your harassment for his actions than your parents deserve it for the stupid shit you've no doubt done.

Take your grievances against Powers to the legal system where it belongs. Hell, give him a noogie for all I care. But we will not be a party to disseminating potentially harmful info about his wife, kids, parents, and siblings.

Anybody posts crap like that again, gets a ban. Whether kinneylamb likes it or not.

michae229

15-07-2009 22:19:43

You guys need to chill the fuck out that's when they lock this thread and when useful info comes out we wont know because yall want to act like girls. We lost money get over it and get a job!

kinneylamb

15-07-2009 22:47:07

yea theres a lot of colorful comments in here, and none of them serious, but you should post different things to express your feelings

aside from that i think everyone's reaction is 100% on par for what happened.

and yea where did that $32 million go.

isn't it funny they created brandaramaselect, what, like last month? that cost money to put up, not a lot, but it cost money and meanwhile they were defaulting on their loan payments ...

bennyboy5768

16-07-2009 00:00:25

[quote825b2892fa="kinneylamb"]isn't it funny they created brandaramaselect, what, like last month? that cost money to put up, not a lot, but it cost money and meanwhile they were defaulting on their loan payments ...[/quote825b2892fa]

Well atleast "Scott F. from Miami" got his gift card fast. Maybe were all saved! lol

dougp70

16-07-2009 06:45:46

Hey, Don't shoot the messenger. I just posted info I found on freebiescoop.com. Apparently we aren't the only ones who feel like he's a no good piece of @#$%^, along with all the other board members of that worthless company. He no doubt made tens of millions last year alone, and the people who made him that money are getting bent over. I wish that he would lose every dime he has, and while I wish no physical harm on any member of his family, if they ended up on the street because of this, then good. Then they can see what a piece of @$#^% he is too.

orangejuice

16-07-2009 07:29:17

he didnt make that much, probably $500,000 out of all this. still a lot but still, no way did he get that much

doylnea

16-07-2009 08:50:52

[quote13b524dce1="kinneylamb"]yea theres a lot of colorful comments in here, and none of them serious, but you should post different things to express your feelings

aside from that i think everyone's reaction is 100% on par for what happened.

and yea where did that $32 million go.

isn't it funny they created brandaramaselect, what, like last month? that cost money to put up, not a lot, but it cost money and meanwhile they were defaulting on their loan payments ...[/quote13b524dce1]

$32M in revenue != $32M in profits.

doylnea

16-07-2009 08:51:17

[quote056f8fbe20="orangejuice"]he didnt make that much, probably $500,000 out of all this. still a lot but still, no way did he get that much[/quote056f8fbe20]

ah baseless assumptions, my favorite kind.

RyanG

16-07-2009 09:02:58

[quote425520cfcf="doylnea"][quote425520cfcf="orangejuice"]he didnt make that much, probably $500,000 out of all this. still a lot but still, no way did he get that much[/quote425520cfcf]

ah baseless assumptions, my favorite kind.[/quote425520cfcf]

lol, if only OJ shared his insider knowledge before I made purchases for MPell certs I woulda saved a lot of money. apparently he has a great understanding of the inside workings of ARG!

nphami01

16-07-2009 09:29:44

I just can't believe they told us to go out and buy gifts, if they knew they weren't going to be able to pay us. I guess I can believe it, but it is the shittiest thing ever

box86rowh

16-07-2009 09:38:35

[quote42147807e8="nphami01"]I just can't believe they told us to go out and buy gifts, if they knew they weren't going to be able to pay us. I guess I can believe it, but it is the shittiest thing ever[/quote42147807e8]
Hitler was worse....

tylerc

16-07-2009 10:11:29

[quote92cfd0e320="doylnea"][quote92cfd0e320="orangejuice"]he didnt make that much, probably $500,000 out of all this. still a lot but still, no way did he get that much[/quote92cfd0e320]

ah baseless assumptions, my favorite kind.[/quote92cfd0e320]

LOL.

I just got to the airport in Las Vegas and haven't been on all week, so needless to say I had a lot to catch up. I hate to say it, but once June came and went I wrote everything off. I'm just glad I bought stuff and returned it all after copying my receipts, so I'm really only out the cost of doing a few different sites. Still, if there's any legal recourse (which I highly doubt) I will definitely be looking into it.

EDIT I just tried calling Brad Powers' cell phone, it has been disconnected. Can't say I'm surprised.

Eeyore

16-07-2009 11:04:56

[quote4e3469a6b3="RyanG"]lol, if only OJ shared his insider knowledge before I made purchases for MPell certs I woulda saved a lot of money. apparently he has a great understanding of the inside workings of ARG![/quote4e3469a6b3]
Naw, he's too busy driving around his rented $250,000 car and boinking $2500 hookers in Beverly Hills using his daddy's credit cards...

orangejuice

16-07-2009 11:47:29

daddy's cards? OK..lol. Yes i am renting a F430 though, can't wait. should be fun

mistertomlinson

16-07-2009 13:14:26

I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?

oleus

16-07-2009 13:35:13

[quotecb29b015e8="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quotecb29b015e8]]

you were smart. i bought stuff i needed, but certainly more at once than i would have otherwise. you can't return plane tickets and a laptop essential to daily life.

dougp70

16-07-2009 14:29:48

[quote62ce91209b="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quote62ce91209b]

Well said Mr......

I'm proud to be one of the "Smart" ones.

Aside from that, I wonder how many of us still check this thread because we just want to bitch about the whole thing, or are we just hoping that someones going to pop in and tell us everything is going to be all right, and our money is on the way.

DRay9911

16-07-2009 14:32:10

[quote0984f608be="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quote0984f608be]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan

mistertomlinson

16-07-2009 14:49:07

[quoted67761e4c4="DRay9911"][quoted67761e4c4="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quoted67761e4c4]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan[/quoted67761e4c4]

I'll say it was half and half... we know nothing in this "industry" is certain. There's always that chance that we don't see shit and I took THAT into consideration when asked to do something as silly as spend $5,000 of my own money in order to receive reimbursement for money I have been waiting on for almost 2 years. I WAS one of the optimistic ones and thought my chances of receiving payment were better than not, but again, who would just run out and spend $5,000 in good faith of a company that hadn't made regular payments in so long? I can assure you, I was nowhere NEAR 100% certain I would get paid, so I definitely saw indications of this coming and proceeded accordingly, returning everything. I'm no fool.

michae229

16-07-2009 15:03:28

[quote8647aaf0dc="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quote8647aaf0dc]

lol I said that a few pages back

ploppsdman

16-07-2009 16:14:31

[quotefd0ee61377="DRay9911"][quotefd0ee61377="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quotefd0ee61377]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan[/quotefd0ee61377]

It only matters to me, but I was fairly certain things weren't going to work out.

For example Jan 25 - "I am cautioning everyone to assume mpell will screw us in the same way Brandarama has .... if you have no money like me, assume that and act accordingly ..... "

Since I didn't get any money, I guess I need the I told you so? Can't pay off debt with that though.

michae229

16-07-2009 16:32:49

[quote5ea5bf2ddd="DRay9911"][quote5ea5bf2ddd="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quote5ea5bf2ddd]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan[/quote5ea5bf2ddd]


Are you serious? Anyone that spends that kind of money most consider that they wont see anything not because we have the money. Thats why i told my friends to return the stuff they bought the whole MPELL thing was unnecessary by them if they had the money they would have paid us.

sexualintellectual

16-07-2009 16:55:32

[quote5fac67bc77="ploppsdman"][quote5fac67bc77="DRay9911"][quote5fac67bc77="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quote5fac67bc77]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan[/quote5fac67bc77]

It only matters to me, but I was fairly certain things weren't going to work out.

For example Jan 25 - "I am cautioning everyone to assume mpell will screw us in the same way Brandarama has .... if you have no money like me, assume that and act accordingly ..... "

Since I didn't get any money, I guess I need the I told you so? Can't pay off debt with that though.[/quote5fac67bc77]


The last sentence is key. To those of you who feel the need to post about how you were right about returning the things you bought are you doing it for schadenfreude or a sense of self-satisfaction? I don't think either is really appropriate considering we ALL just got screwed and the people in debt don't need to be reminded that they are more screwed than the rest.

If you want an apology or acknowledgment of your superior wisdom I think you may be going about getting it the wrong way.

oleus

16-07-2009 16:58:08

to be honest i'm shocked anyone cares what anyone else did with what they bought. i didn't return anything but i certainly don't blame the people who did. it's not like they broke any rules or broke the law, whereas i still firmly believe arg and/or Mpell DID break the law by requiring us to buy items that they knew full well they weren't going to pay us back for.

sexualintellectual

16-07-2009 17:03:23

[quotec5ce0c99a3="oleus"]to be honest i'm shocked anyone cares what anyone else did with what they bought. i didn't return anything but i certainly don't blame the people who did. it's not like they broke any rules or broke the law, whereas i still firmly believe arg and/or Mpell DID break the law by requiring us to buy items that they knew full well they weren't going to pay us back for.[/quotec5ce0c99a3]

And the last point is what we should be talking about if anything at all. Whether people were right or wrong about us getting screwed, we were in fact still screwed. "I told you so" is not going to bring anything to the equation now.

kinneylamb

16-07-2009 17:28:16

what dan said.

and you weren't smart because you returned items. you returned items because that was how you chose to go about submitting your certificate.

some of us bought gift cards, and some of us bought and kept items.

but none of us has the cash we were due from any of this. so stop throwing it in anybody's face.

box86rowh

16-07-2009 19:25:27

I actually bought a Visa Card at the bank for $2500 for the big one then went to best buy and bought gift cards. I then proceeded to buy more gift cards with the gift cards. I ended up turning them over enough to take care of mine and my bros gifts equaling 13k...I ended up losing whatever I lost on selling the leftover cards on Ebay...

Zags1199

16-07-2009 19:28:00

Damn, that had to be a lot of fees.

JANGALANG32

16-07-2009 20:32:26

[quote50802cdcd3="kinneylamb"]what dan said.

and you weren't smart because you returned items. you returned items because that was how you chose to go about submitting your certificate.

some of us bought gift cards, and some of us bought and kept items.

but none of us has the cash we were due from any of this. so stop throwing it in anybody's face.[/quote50802cdcd3]

i have to disagree with you. i was owed $9000 and it didnt cost me a thing because i was smart enough to know delays dont take years! everyone knew in the back of their mind they were in financial trouble. to front money for a new step they decided to create to fill gifts when that step added nothing to speed up the process is dumb.

show me a receipt and ill send you the gift? why? what does a receipt have to do with sending out a gift ive been waiting on for 2 years? common sense says everyone should of returned purchases.

zr2152

16-07-2009 21:54:19

who gives a fuck who returned what and who didn't.

Point is

ARG FUCKED ALL OF YOU. Start filing all the claims and complaints you can. I can't believe you are arguing about returning shit.

kinneylamb

16-07-2009 21:58:10

you could do whatever you wanted to get a receipt, but it doesnt make you smart or not smart and people throwing it in each other's faces who was smarter and all of that. we signed up, did offers, waited 2 years, did a cashback program, and almost all of us got nothing. thats a loss to everyone. go file your complaints and make sure the powers that be at least know about this, like the AG

edit zr2152 thats exactly right lol

orangejuice

16-07-2009 22:36:12

I got over 17k from them in 3 years, just counted em all up on excel. $17,250 to be exact )

mctrask

17-07-2009 00:29:13

[quotee48f0058d6="DRay9911"][quotee48f0058d6="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quotee48f0058d6]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan[/quotee48f0058d6]

Actually, that is not true. Read back through the thread from January. There are several posts relating that MPell had absolutely no problem with people returning their purchases. They told me the same thing when I called their customer service number. No spirit broken and no rule danced around.

dubbin87

17-07-2009 05:27:47

[quoteaf4a137514="mctrask"]

Actually, that is not true. Read back through the thread from January. There are several posts relating that MPell had absolutely no problem with people returning their purchases. They told me the same thing when I called their customer service number. No spirit broken and no rule danced around.[/quoteaf4a137514]

Exactly, if you probed Mpell enough and asked the [baf4a137514]right[/baf4a137514] questions you would have found out that all they wanted was a sheet of paper with a few numbers on it. They didn't care two squats about how,where,who you got it from.

JANGALANG32

17-07-2009 07:44:31

[quotecb5dd7489c="kinneylamb"]you could do whatever you wanted to get a receipt, but it doesnt make you smart or not smart and people throwing it in each other's faces who was smarter and all of that. we signed up, did offers, waited 2 years, did a cashback program, and almost all of us got nothing. thats a loss to everyone. go file your complaints and make sure the powers that be at least know about this, like the AG

edit zr2152 thats exactly right lol[/quotecb5dd7489c]

scam me once shame on me, scam me twice shame on ARG! this is why the returners are smart. we wernt going to take the risk of going into debt. smart!

ARG didnt fuck me i still got way more from them then they got from me even with $9,000 left on the table. we fucked ARG because of us they closed up shop

maverik

17-07-2009 08:05:13

Who's really smart here... Priyanka = i-prank-ya

Spinxter

17-07-2009 08:27:45

I turned in a $4,000 receipt for something that my employer paid for. It wasn't my money. Am I smart? No. I'm still fucked out of the $1,200 I was owed by ARG.

dougp70

17-07-2009 08:54:26

[quote311b6132b5="maverik"]Who's really smart here... Priyanka = i-prank-ya[/quote311b6132b5]

Very clever Maverik, lol

DRay9911

17-07-2009 10:50:38

[quote17147b050d="maverik"]Who's really smart here... Priyanka = i-prank-ya[/quote17147b050d]

setec astronomy

-dan

JANGALANG32

17-07-2009 11:13:05

[quote2f1074b4bd="Spinxter"]I turned in a $4,000 receipt for something that my employer paid for. It wasn't my money. Am I smart? No. I'm still fucked out of the $1,200 I was owed by ARG.[/quote2f1074b4bd]



yes, you are because you could of been out the $1200 owed to you and another $1200 that ARG tried to get you to go spend. everyone is out the losses that was owed to them but if you wernt smart it would be double

ohboyitsryan

17-07-2009 12:01:16

has anyone tried contacting hercules at all? if not, I will try to do so later today. might get a little more information thru them

ploppsdman

17-07-2009 12:31:00

Hercules will tell us to send in our receipts and they'll pay us in 6-8 weeks. That would be classic. Why does this have to end? Keep it going, Hercules!

oleus

17-07-2009 12:33:24

i inadvertently got Hercules's cell phone number, and he told me that he found inconsistencies with our receipts after they fedex'd them to him. so i wouldn't get my hopes up. he's really strong so he was able to lift the box of mpell receipts himself, all the way up into the penthouse he is now sharing with brad powers.

ploppsdman

17-07-2009 12:56:13

We really need to complete the trifecta. Somewhere the character of Richard Steele needs to come up.

"While Hercules and Brad Powers near the completion of their grand plan code named "ARG", Dick Steele is quietly working in the background on their next scheme Emazon.com, Omazon.com, Imazon.com, and the dreaded Ymazon.net. Where instead of shipping the books you ordered, they will ship the books you didn't order, in 6-8 weeks."

ploppsdman

17-07-2009 13:01:10

[quote047529cc78="sexualintellectual"][quote047529cc78="ploppsdman"][quote047529cc78="DRay9911"][quote047529cc78="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quote047529cc78]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan[/quote047529cc78]

It only matters to me, but I was fairly certain things weren't going to work out.

For example Jan 25 - "I am cautioning everyone to assume mpell will screw us in the same way Brandarama has .... if you have no money like me, assume that and act accordingly ..... "

Since I didn't get any money, I guess I need the I told you so? Can't pay off debt with that though.[/quote047529cc78]


The last sentence is key. To those of you who feel the need to post about how you were right about returning the things you bought are you doing it for schadenfreude or a sense of self-satisfaction? I don't think either is really appropriate considering we ALL just got screwed and the people in debt don't need to be reminded that they are more screwed than the rest.

If you want an apology or acknowledgment of your superior wisdom I think you may be going about getting it the wrong way.[/quote047529cc78]

The last sentence was the most important one. That money would have given me a few seconds to calm down. I'm not interested in insulting anyone, so if I have, I apologize.

LucaBella

17-07-2009 15:39:29

[quotea43f4d8103="DRay9911"][quotea43f4d8103="mistertomlinson"]I'd hate to pour salt into any wounds, but I was just wondering where the people are who whined about some of us buying items to simply return them just for the receipts? Those of you who referred to us as "scammers" or "frauders," do you feel better? Do you see why we returned the items? Do you still consider our actions fraudulent... or are you realizing now we were being smart?[/quotea43f4d8103]

buying and returning whatever some of you bought was against the spirit of the rule and program. it wasn't fraud or scammish, it was just a way some of you danced around the ground rules set up by MPELL.

you didn't return the items because you were smart, i'd be willing to bet 90+% of you did it because you didn't have the money for the stuff in the first place so you avoided the credit card hit. i don't care that you did it, just don't say you did it because saw this coming because you didn't.

-dan[/quotea43f4d8103]

Anyone who didn't doubt brandarama back then was insane. I know everyone was hoping, but the people who were totally confident in Scamarama had to be small in number, and partly retarded. You know, like Kinney.

kinneylamb

17-07-2009 19:04:41

[quotefd371cfc1f="JANGALANG32"][quotefd371cfc1f="kinneylamb"]you could do whatever you wanted to get a receipt, but it doesnt make you smart or not smart and people throwing it in each other's faces who was smarter and all of that. we signed up, did offers, waited 2 years, did a cashback program, and almost all of us got nothing. thats a loss to everyone. go file your complaints and make sure the powers that be at least know about this, like the AG

edit zr2152 thats exactly right lol[/quotefd371cfc1f]

scam me once shame on me, scam me twice shame on ARG! this is why the returners are smart. we wernt going to take the risk of going into debt. smart!

ARG didnt fuck me i still got way more from them then they got from me even with $9,000 left on the table. we fucked ARG because of us they closed up shop[/quotefd371cfc1f]

ok im not having this argument number one. but when did you get scammed the first time. you didnt. you were just waiting.

some ppl chose to return stuff. fine. but then what happened. arg informed us of a second audit. even tho it was a lie, it had the 'returns' people quiet for a while, thinking they might get busted.

and finally be careful with the word "we". i never screwed with arg, i followed everything correct and thensome. and i got screwed.

idk how this thread is still going, trifectas, setec astronomy, herculues, lol be interesting to see how this thread lasts

oleus

17-07-2009 20:35:01

people have to remember - returning things were never against the rules and could never have been something an audit would have nullified. i can't believe people are still arguing over this. what would it have mattered if i had returned the laptop i am typing this with and used the money for groceries for the year? it wouldn't have. plus they would have had no way of knowing from the receipt whether that actually occurred or not.

in retrospect i should have been more suspect of the whole process in the first place. sure, they were trying to weed people out, but it was such an arbitrary requirement that i should have been wiser. like all good ponzi schemes, they paid out so many times over the years.... that was the hook.

zr2152

17-07-2009 21:29:27

[quote174af1acbc="zr2152"]who gives a fuck who returned what and who didn't.

Point is

ARG FUCKED ALL OF YOU. Start filing all the claims and complaints you can. I can't believe you are arguing about returning shit.[/quote174af1acbc]

JANGALANG32

18-07-2009 14:03:40

[quoted656accb1a="kinneylamb"][quoted656accb1a="JANGALANG32"][quoted656accb1a="kinneylamb"]you could do whatever you wanted to get a receipt, but it doesnt make you smart or not smart and people throwing it in each other's faces who was smarter and all of that. we signed up, did offers, waited 2 years, did a cashback program, and almost all of us got nothing. thats a loss to everyone. go file your complaints and make sure the powers that be at least know about this, like the AG

edit zr2152 thats exactly right lol[/quoted656accb1a]

scam me once shame on me, scam me twice shame on ARG! this is why the returners are smart. we wernt going to take the risk of going into debt. smart!

ARG didnt fuck me i still got way more from them then they got from me even with $9,000 left on the table. we fucked ARG because of us they closed up shop[/quoted656accb1a]

ok im not having this argument number one. but when did you get scammed the first time. you didnt. you were just waiting.

some ppl chose to return stuff. fine. but then what happened. arg informed us of a second audit. even tho it was a lie, it had the 'returns' people quiet for a while, thinking they might get busted.

and finally be careful with the word "we". i never screwed with arg, i followed everything correct and thensome. and i got screwed.

idk how this thread is still going, trifectas, setec astronomy, herculues, lol be interesting to see how this thread lasts[/quoted656accb1a]


if i need to explain to you how i got scammed the 1st time then you are not smart and that explains why you didnt return stuff. in my whole life i have never had a 2 year delay and still got what i was waiting for. the writing was on the wall and some choose to ignore it.

the next step to this thread is the sale of ARG'S assests which will be the final nail in the coffin to all of this. then, after that it will be ARG opening up under a different company name like none of this happened

kinneylamb

18-07-2009 16:06:21

[quotead723ab4c4="zr2152"][quotead723ab4c4="zr2152"]who gives a fuck who returned what and who didn't.

Point is

ARG FUCKED ALL OF YOU. Start filing all the claims and complaints you can. I can't believe you are arguing about returning shit.[/quotead723ab4c4][/quotead723ab4c4]

ILoveToys

18-07-2009 18:24:26

I wonder what their payout ratios will be like when they reopen?

JANGALANG32

18-07-2009 21:13:28

[quote1c4ec3040e="ILoveToys"]I wonder what their payout ratios will be like when they reopen?[/quote1c4ec3040e]

it will be exactly what it was when they went under. it will be the crazy cancel policys on the sponsor offers

kinneylamb

19-07-2009 02:47:37

[quote4d9c8aeb46="JANGALANG32"][quote4d9c8aeb46="ILoveToys"]I wonder what their payout ratios will be like when they reopen?[/quote4d9c8aeb46]

it will be exactly what it was when they went under. it will be the crazy cancel policys on the sponsor offers[/quote4d9c8aeb46]
lol what .. i thought there wasnt any garauntee that there'd be any incentive portion of this company still anyway

mistertomlinson

19-07-2009 05:01:37

[quoteb373daf8b5="kinneylamb"][quoteb373daf8b5="zr2152"][quoteb373daf8b5="zr2152"]who gives a fuck who returned what and who didn't.

Point is

ARG FUCKED ALL OF YOU. Start filing all the claims and complaints you can. I can't believe you are arguing about returning shit.[/quoteb373daf8b5][/quoteb373daf8b5][/quoteb373daf8b5]

That's odd... It didn't do anything when I quoted either. roll

hawke12

19-07-2009 08:05:04

[quote7728db0295="kinneylamb"]
lol what .. i thought there wasnt any garauntee that there'd be any incentive portion of this company still anyway[/quote7728db0295]

When Mr. Powers Incorporates a "New" Company Name there will be, he will go untouched in all of this Personally. That's the advantage of Incorporating. ;)

gabriel

20-07-2009 13:04:51

Posted a convo of him talking for about 40 sec on A4F
http//www.megaupload.com/?d=IH415HQW

honestly, i believe we are all screwed.. he is just buying time to escape with all are money we made for him ;(

mistertomlinson

20-07-2009 19:07:46

... I really wish I could understand anything he said.

Zags1199

20-07-2009 20:53:54

[quote143e572f89="mistertomlinson"]... I really wish I could understand anything he said.[/quote143e572f89]

suburbangirl

21-07-2009 18:02:37

[quoteff0d08ac6a="hawke12"][quoteff0d08ac6a="kinneylamb"]
lol what .. i thought there wasnt any garauntee that there'd be any incentive portion of this company still anyway[/quoteff0d08ac6a]

When Mr. Powers Incorporates a "New" Company Name there will be, he will go untouched in all of this Personally. That's the advantage of Incorporating. ;)[/quoteff0d08ac6a]

too bad you couldn't get a court to pierce the corporate veil and go after brad personally

gabriel

21-07-2009 21:55:36

[quotedd877516ae="mistertomlinson"]... I really wish I could understand anything he said.[/quotedd877516ae]

I posted a short outline of are conversation on A$F

hawke12

22-07-2009 08:32:56

[quotec7e1811e00="suburbangirl"][quotec7e1811e00="hawke12"][quotec7e1811e00="kinneylamb"]
lol what .. i thought there wasnt any garauntee that there'd be any incentive portion of this company still anyway[/quotec7e1811e00]

When Mr. Powers Incorporates a "New" Company Name there will be, he will go untouched in all of this Personally. That's the advantage of Incorporating. ;)[/quotec7e1811e00]

too bad you couldn't get a court to pierce the corporate veil and go after brad personally[/quotec7e1811e00]

That's the advantage of Incorporating a business name. When bankruptcy or anything occurs, the Private OWNER and their assets can not be attached.

However I believe that would be a different story, if their were criminal charges, but (I'm not an attorney, so don't take this as law) I don't see that he did anything "Criminal in the eyes of the law", shady and deceitful yeah, But I doubt Anything "Criminal"...

oleus

22-07-2009 08:42:13

you don't have to do something "criminal" per se to suffer the consequences.

bryanvanalmkerk

22-07-2009 08:57:14

Hey Guys.

I talked to arg, they are not paying anyone.

The issue has been pushed to a bankruptcy lawyer/asset buyer/seller or whatever you call it.

So what that means is, the bank gets paid before anyone else. They owe the bank 10 million. The auction takes place this month I believe and I know they will not get anywhere near 10 million. So until they get what their owed, no one will get anything.

oleus

22-07-2009 09:11:43

i think we all figured as much. black magic time.

dougp70

22-07-2009 11:24:14

You can't even get to the status pages anymore.

hawke12

22-07-2009 11:34:27

[quote5b82137f95="oleus"]you don't have to do something "criminal" per se to suffer the consequences.[/quote5b82137f95]

The only other route would be civil...and guess what? Someone like Mr. Powers doesn't give a rats @ss about civil court....But again Civil court would not be against him personally, only the company and it's assets, which at this time is nill...

oleus

22-07-2009 11:41:17

[quotec82a522c55="hawke12"][quotec82a522c55="oleus"]you don't have to do something "criminal" per se to suffer the consequences.[/quotec82a522c55]

The only other route would be civil...and guess what? Someone like Mr. Powers doesn't give a rats @ss about civil court....But again Civil court would not be against him personally, only the company and it's assets, which at this time is nill...[/quotec82a522c55]

i never said anything about civil court nor do i think that would get anywhere.

ashilef

22-07-2009 12:03:29

My status crap is still there, not that it matters. They have this stupid chart showing how many offers you can cancel depending on how many you have to do.

They're still trying to get as many suckers as they can until the very end...

oleus

22-07-2009 12:05:50

i'm sending brad powers a small FTD bouquet letting him know how sorry I am about his situation.

RolltheStampede

22-07-2009 13:49:51

YOu should sign up for the brandarama sites in brad powers name

suburbangirl

22-07-2009 14:38:41

[quote2c455c69e9="hawke12"][quote2c455c69e9="suburbangirl"][quote2c455c69e9="hawke12"][quote2c455c69e9="kinneylamb"]
lol what .. i thought there wasnt any garauntee that there'd be any incentive portion of this company still anyway[/quote2c455c69e9]

When Mr. Powers Incorporates a "New" Company Name there will be, he will go untouched in all of this Personally. That's the advantage of Incorporating. ;)[/quote2c455c69e9]

too bad you couldn't get a court to pierce the corporate veil and go after brad personally[/quote2c455c69e9]

That's the advantage of Incorporating a business name. When bankruptcy or anything occurs, the Private OWNER and their assets can not be attached.

However I believe that would be a different story, if their were criminal charges, but (I'm not an attorney, so don't take this as law) I don't see that he did anything "Criminal in the eyes of the law", shady and deceitful yeah, But I doubt Anything "Criminal"...[/quote2c455c69e9]

fraud would qualify, but there is the issue proving it.

beerman

22-07-2009 18:41:52

[quoted524758443="oleus"]i'm sending brad powers a small FTD bouquet letting him know how sorry I am about his situation.[/quoted524758443]

This is more appropriate and anonymous

http//turdinabox.com/mycart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3

The deluxe smelly version for ony $2.50 more!

oleus

23-07-2009 09:04:42

so - has ARG been bid up to $20 yet??

Eeyore

23-07-2009 10:35:39

Looks like $9.95 with free shipping. $20 is the Buy-It-Now.

ashilef

23-07-2009 10:45:15

[quote652848c629="Eeyore"]Looks like $9.95 with free shipping. $20 is the Buy-It-Now.[/quote652848c629]

Wow! lol

krazikorean

23-07-2009 11:23:10

So this is what i got when i asked them where the hell my gift was. I told them i would be contacing General Attorney and BBB.


Thank you for contacting us.

According to our records, you may be a claimant of Rewards Parade Active Respons e Group,
Inc. (?ARG?) is the parent company of Rewards parade. As you know, many businesses have been hurt badly by the financial downturn and the credit crunch that followed the collapse of the subprime mortgage markets. ARG, like many other firms, though not involved in any way in those activities, has seen its revenues drop dramatically. As a result, we found ourselves in very serious financial difficulty.
Despite taking various steps to reduce our costs and preserve value, we became unable to make our debt payments to our senior lender, Hercules Technology Growth Capital, Inc. (?Hercules?). Hercules had lent ARG $10,000,000, which senior loans were secured by all of our assets. Since we were unable to pay our current payments, Hercules declared the loans in default and began to exercise its rights under the loan agreements and State law to recover its loans outstanding through an agreed upon asset sale process.
Through this process, ARG is working with Hercules to complete the sale of all of ARG?s assets in an auction. In the meantime, Hercules has agreed to permit us to use its collateral t o fund a bare bones operating budget in order to allow ARG to continue enough operations to be able to still seek a buyer of ARG as something like a going concern. Unfortunately, since any claims you might have are unsecured, and therefore in any liquidation scenario would be junior to the claims of Hercules, who holds a valid senior security interest in ARG?s assets and any proceeds from the sale of ARG assets, no funds have been allocated in the budget to satisfy any consumer prize claims.
Hercules? agents have scheduled the bidding on ARG?s assets to end on July 23. Only after the results of all of Hercules? and ARG?s Management?s efforts to sell our assets and business are determined will we be able to say whether there will be any funds left over after Hercules applies the proceeds of any such sale to its loans outstanding. At this juncture, we cannot determine whether there will be any surplus at all. However, if there is sufficient interest by a sufficient number of bidders, it is still a possibility.
Should you have any questions, please contact us via email= at email=support@cs.Bransupport@cs.Bran at email=support@cs.Bransupport@cs.Bran/emaildarama.c om . While our customer service center is no longer in operation, if we are in a legal and operational position to do so, we shall try to keep you informed of material developments in this process. We are of course very disheartened by this turn of events, as we know you must be. We thank you for your patronage and wish you the best.
Very truly yours,
Customer Care Department

Brandarama Member Support



Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sherry
RewardsParade Member Support

oleus

23-07-2009 11:45:42

that's the same thing they have had on their site for a while now. they dont' care if you know the president of the US at this point, they're not sending you your gift cards

krazikorean

23-07-2009 14:16:06

i am so pissed off and ticked off. DOnt' know what to do! Might as well take it as a loss, but hell they got my hopes up for nuttin!

oleus

24-07-2009 07:05:56

[quote4fe886b51e="krazikorean"]i am so pissed off and ticked off. DOnt' know what to do! Might as well take it as a loss, but hell they got my hopes up for nuttin![/quote4fe886b51e]

don't worry, things work out in the end. trust me. no one is getting any money but the universal equalizer is working its spell.

ILoveToys

24-07-2009 08:56:37

So, is there any news on the actual sale of their assets that was supposed to take place yesterday?

hawke12

24-07-2009 09:19:20

According to this post, they have, and I quote,

[quote7c9af19370]
Since inception, the Company has grown very impressively, with revenues increasing from $1 million to $32 million between 2004 and 2008.
[/quote7c9af19370]

Full article here

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/

Eeyore

24-07-2009 10:02:30

Unfortunately, that blog post is from July 6 and hasn't changed since it was referenced here over two weeks ago...

mariners1999

24-07-2009 10:08:13

[quoteb8d084608b="hawke12"]According to this post, they have, and I quote,

[quoteb8d084608b]
Since inception, the Company has grown very impressively, with revenues increasing from $1 million to $32 million between 2004 and 2008.
[/quoteb8d084608b]

Full article here

http//boic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/date-certain-ma-of-active-response-group-inc-its-assets-and-intellectual-property-by-its-secured-senior-lender-hercules-technology-growth-capital/[/quoteb8d084608b]


Old news..... Anything written about any offers they got???? I want to know if they got more than 10 million. So I can truly stop visiting this forum. lol

M

box86rowh

24-07-2009 10:12:19

I just talked to Brad and he said they extended the sale to allow two companies that are bidding to complete their bids...

hawke12

24-07-2009 10:20:57

Yeah I know it's old news, I was commenting on the fact that they are being touted as a company on the up and up, with this Revenue increase of 33 Million $$$ ;)

oleus

24-07-2009 10:29:19

[quote5cf8425797="box86rowh"]I just talked to Brad and he said they extended the sale to allow two companies that are bidding to complete their bids...[/quote5cf8425797]

i just talked to him a few minutes ago and he wants you to stop bugging him.

box86rowh

24-07-2009 12:08:13

[quote6977f23752="oleus"][quote6977f23752="box86rowh"]I just talked to Brad and he said they extended the sale to allow two companies that are bidding to complete their bids...[/quote6977f23752]

i just talked to him a few minutes ago and he wants you to stop bugging him.[/quote6977f23752]
lol....sure... roll

mistertomlinson

24-07-2009 14:17:07

Yeah... he just told me he was hot for my man sex. oops

tp24

24-07-2009 14:24:19

I told him I will put compromising pics of him and Priyanka up for bid if he doesn't pay up.

He then offered me $10000 for them...hmm, should I take?

jasonatsmtc

24-07-2009 16:12:58

[quote36fb27578a="box86rowh"]I just talked to Brad and he said they extended the sale to allow two companies that are bidding to complete their bids...[/quote36fb27578a]
I would stop posting the useful info you have here where noone believes you anyways..

ashilef

24-07-2009 18:10:40

[quote336dca213c="jasonatsmtc"][quote336dca213c="box86rowh"]I just talked to Brad and he said they extended the sale to allow two companies that are bidding to complete their bids...[/quote336dca213c]
I would stop posting the useful info you have here where noone believes you anyways..[/quote336dca213c]

Some of us are paying attention..he should keep posting.

kinneylamb

24-07-2009 21:33:08

i dont think they are paying back the full $10 million, right, unless their payments were deferred for 2 years and then they made none, or unless the loaner let them go this long without making payment which is unlikely

Eeyore

25-07-2009 12:14:15

I'd be surprised if they even managed interest payments for the last two years let alone principal. In fact I'd pretty much guarantee it. If there was any chance of recovering their full investment Hercules would not have declared them in default and started the liquidation. That the officers of ARG are cooperating and seem to have agreed to all this in advance tells me they haven't paid back a penny of the loan.

If you look at the whole picture, the Hercules loan corresponds with the start of very slow gift fulfillment. ARG was toast two years ago.

oleus

25-07-2009 17:07:44

[quote78c6ab7dd9="Eeyore"]I'd be surprised if they even managed interest payments for the last two years let alone principal. In fact I'd pretty much guarantee it. If there was any chance of recovering their full investment Hercules would not have declared them in default and started the liquidation. That the officers of ARG are cooperating and seem to have agreed to all this in advance tells me they haven't paid back a penny of the loan.

If you look at the whole picture, the Hercules loan corresponds with the start of very slow gift fulfillment. ARG was toast two years ago.[/quote78c6ab7dd9]

if they were toast two years ago, and they arranged those MPell certificates telling us to go spend our own money to see our gifts, could that constitute some sort of provable fraud?

kinneylamb

25-07-2009 20:05:11

this is why i think you are right oleus. you are along my line of thinking

[quoteb8645be0d4="kinneylamb"]if brandarama knew about their situation (they had to) at the time they issued the mpell certificates, they caused damage to people by making them buy things and lose money they knew would never get back. statute of limitations would not help brandarama there. thats where they have a legal problem, they asked people to spend money to stay in the program, meanwhile their balance sheet could not fulfill the gifts.[/quoteb8645be0d4]

dougp70

27-07-2009 07:03:51

They kept assuring us, "Don't worry, you WILL get paid."

Sorry, I guess I'm still in shock. I can't beleive they strung us along for months or years, all the while promising that we WOULD get our money, and then bent us over and fucked us like that.

box86rowh

27-07-2009 08:06:46

I just talked to the company that handled the sale and was told the sale did not get enough money to pay Hercules...game, set, match....

oleus

27-07-2009 08:38:13

[quoteec96b5f8f1="box86rowh"]I just talked to the company that handled the sale and was told the sale did not get enough money to pay Hercules...game, set, match....[/quoteec96b5f8f1]

well maybe hercules will find a creative way to stick it to brad, since he owes them millions still. i would assume starting a new company and making new money won't sit well with a huge company owed money from the douchebag. and next time you ring him on your family and friends cell phone plan remind him that he is indeed a douchebag.

box86rowh

27-07-2009 08:55:04

[quote4ae88899b3="oleus"][quote4ae88899b3="box86rowh"]I just talked to the company that handled the sale and was told the sale did not get enough money to pay Hercules...game, set, match....[/quote4ae88899b3]

well maybe hercules will find a creative way to stick it to brad, since he owes them millions still. i would assume starting a new company and making new money won't sit well with a huge company owed money from the douchebag. and next time you ring him on your family and friends cell phone plan remind him that he is indeed a douchebag.[/quote4ae88899b3]
lol....might be a good idea....

ohboyitsryan

27-07-2009 09:32:20

eh...fuck it.

maverik

27-07-2009 10:08:29

[quote943cde5456="ohboyitsryan"]eh...fuck it.[/quote943cde5456]

Amen.

RolltheStampede

27-07-2009 10:38:32

Can I atleast have some of the watermelon those brandarama kids were eating

desertwilite

27-07-2009 12:08:25

[quote26f38a7abb="RolltheStampede"]Can I atleast have some of the watermelon those brandarama kids were eating[/quote26f38a7abb]

Why yes. All you need to do is go buy a watermelon, send in your receipt and in 8 to 10 weeks we will send you your watermelon slice prize, delivered at no charge to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eeyore

27-07-2009 12:45:51

I'm pretty sure Hercules took it away from those darn cute kids.

kinneylamb

27-07-2009 18:02:14

im pretty sure ARG listed those kids as assetts

ashilef

27-07-2009 18:17:06

[quote1f958ba9e2="kinneylamb"]im pretty sure ARG listed those kids as assetts[/quote1f958ba9e2]

lol

Crizo

28-07-2009 07:36:24

[quoted5c1a28493="RolltheStampede"]Can I atleast have some of the watermelon those brandarama kids were eating[/quoted5c1a28493]

Always fresh, motherflililiers!

hawke12

28-07-2009 09:37:46

[quote4c253fbba1="oleus"][quote4c253fbba1="box86rowh"]I just talked to the company that handled the sale and was told the sale did not get enough money to pay Hercules...game, set, match....[/quote4c253fbba1]

well maybe hercules will find a creative way to stick it to brad, since he owes them millions still. i would assume starting a new company and making new money won't sit well with a huge company owed money from the douchebag. and next time you ring him on your family and friends cell phone plan remind him that he is indeed a douchebag.[/quote4c253fbba1]

Brad Powers Doesn't Owe anyone SH!T! A.R.G. Does. That's how this Fugger will get away with it, and do it again. He knows' exactly what He's doing.

Eeyore

28-07-2009 10:00:49

While he technically does not owe the money, if his actions running ARG are/were fraudulent or criminal he can still be personally liable. There is no absolute corporate shield...look at what happened to the Enron bunch.

Hercules would have to go after him personally which will probably not happen. They seem to all be in this together.

rustvyper

28-07-2009 19:42:52

Well since the ARG ship is burning, I figured I might shoot a few arrows at Mpell too.
Go here https//postalinspectors.uspis.gov/forms/MailFraudComplaint.aspx
I'm filling out a mail fraud complaint against Mpell. Reason I'm putting is under "merchandise or service" I selected "misrepresentation of product/service". Will it do anything about me getting my $? no - but it made me feel a bit better.
Hell, you might be able to fill one out on ol brad if you had his home address info.

kinneylamb

28-07-2009 22:06:27

does anyone with insider info know what company placed bids on ARG's assetts?

mistertomlinson

29-07-2009 05:40:32

Dick's Sporting Goods and McDonalds.

Eeyore

29-07-2009 08:03:11

[quote5c42e8c99c="kinneylamb"]does anyone with insider info know what company placed bids on ARG's assetts?[/quote5c42e8c99c]
B.Powers Love 'em and Leave 'em Bent Over, Inc.

hawke12

29-07-2009 20:40:42

[quote53604b7d55="Eeyore"][quote53604b7d55="kinneylamb"]does anyone with insider info know what company placed bids on ARG's assetts?[/quote53604b7d55]
B.Powers Love 'em and Leave 'em Bent Over, Inc.[/quote53604b7d55]

Company Motto - "Fuckem' and Feed Em' beans!"

kinneylamb

31-07-2009 18:13:19

503 -- service not available

finally, some progress!

Eeyore

31-07-2009 21:17:17

I'm not sure that watching the corpse roll down the street to the cemetery is "progress".

kinneylamb

31-07-2009 22:48:18

in terms of the scam being complete, it's progress

Eeyore

01-08-2009 12:23:35

What? The scam lives on in the next company these crooks start. Do you make stuff up just to have something to post?

kinneylamb

01-08-2009 12:37:07

if the websites are even relaunched, wouldnt the new owners of the assetts, which would be the incentivized websites, have control over how those run? i thought brad powers had no control over them anymore because they are taken over by the new owners?

ghounds07

02-08-2009 11:30:24

nah the new owners just buy the assets and have no control over how it's run. just talked to brad and he said he couldn't wait to get back to the office.

mistertomlinson

02-08-2009 15:16:55

I just talked to Brad and he told me to tell everyone here to STOP DROPPING HIS NAME! What a jerk, right?

tylerc

02-08-2009 18:39:51

Brad can fuck off for all I care.

mistertomlinson

03-08-2009 05:20:19

I really was looking forward to getting a new car. I swear, I actually thought I was gonna get it. lisigh

Eeyore

03-08-2009 19:51:02

I'm still waiting for his wife to show up. I'll probably have to go buy one on my own and then wait to be reimbursed.

sexualintellectual

04-08-2009 07:29:27

[quoteae9e216a95="Eeyore"]I'm still waiting for his wife to show up. I'll probably have to go buy one on my own and then wait to be reimbursed.[/quoteae9e216a95]

Haven't you heard? She went to Hercules to help "settle the debt."

hawke12

04-08-2009 11:42:55

[quote8c2abd7517="sexualintellectual"][quote8c2abd7517="Eeyore"]I'm still waiting for his wife to show up. I'll probably have to go buy one on my own and then wait to be reimbursed.[/quote8c2abd7517]

Haven't you heard? She went to Hercules to help "settle the debt."[/quote8c2abd7517]

HAHA Funniest shit I've heard All Day ;)

manOFice

04-08-2009 13:07:43

ANDDDD DONE......




According to our records, you may be a claimant of one or more consumer prize(s) from one of our consumer rewards sites.

Active Response Group, Inc. ("Active Response Group") is the parent company of Brandarama the Brand that you originally registered for.

As you know, many businesses have been hurt badly by the financial downturn and the credit crunch that followed the collapse of the subprime mortgage markets. Active Response Group, like many other firms, though not involved in any way in those activities, has seen its revenues drop dramatically. As a result, we found ourselves in very serious financial difficulty.

Despite taking various steps to reduce our costs and preserve value, we became unable to make our debt payments to our senior lender, Hercules Technology Growth Capital, Inc. ("Hercules"). Hercules had lent Active Response Group ~$10,000,000, which senior loans were secured by all of our assets. Since we were unable to pay our current payments, Hercules has foreclosed on its collateral and has sold Active Response Group's assets to a third party via an auction process. While the details of the transaction are subject to confidentially provision, the highest offer was insufficient to pay Hercules in full.

Unfortunately, Active Response Group's inability to pay Hercules in full means that with certainty Active Response has no funds to satisfy any consumer prize claims. Our customer service center is no longer in operation, and we will be winding down the affairs of the company under state law. So this is the last communication you can expect from us and we have no means of conducting further contact with you.

We are of course very disheartened by this turn of events, as we know you must be. We thank you for your patronage and wish you the best.

Very truly yours,

Customer Care Department

mistertomlinson

04-08-2009 13:42:48

The ridiculous thing is, if these bastards open in another name/LLC (or whatever the hell everyone keeps saying), I'll be the first sonofabitch to jump on board, completing as many sites as possible. Fuck... I hope they do. I NEED A NEW CAR!

oleus

04-08-2009 13:43:02

it was fun while it lasted.

if i had time and energy i'd continue to pursue the AG complaints but seeing as that I haven't heard jacklilili back on any of those, i guess it's time to move on.

i can only wish Brad Powers the worst of possible lives moving forward, and anyone with an understanding of mental energy and karma can take solace in the fact that he will have an unhappy life when it is all said and done.

dougp70

04-08-2009 13:53:52

I hope Brad becomes the laughing stock of NY business, and never gets another job.

EatChex89

04-08-2009 14:46:21

Fuck this shit. I am still pissed that they made us go out and buy shit instead of just telling us that they didn't have the fucking money!

Eeyore

04-08-2009 14:51:41

On to Mpell...

Zags1199

04-08-2009 15:15:20

I can at least take solace in the fact that I managed to get $1,350 out of them. I called and e-mailed everyone in the company of significance and finally got a response out of Brad, who said he was "sympathetic" to my situation. He and Priyanka set up a "payment plan" to send me four checks over the course of two months for the $4,625 I was owed. I wasn't really holding my breath on that, and when the first check didn't come when they said it would, I basically wrote it off. About two weeks later, though, I did get the first check for $1,350, and it miraculously cleared.

After that, however, I didn't receive anything else. Priyanka stopped responding to me, and Brad basically said SOL. I didn't want to post anything about it at the time because they still owed me money, and Brad/Priyanka both have a disclaimer at the bottom of their e-mails saying how the e-mail is private and cannot be shared. So I didn't want them finding out I posted about it and have them somehow say, "LOL, we don't owe you anything anymore." Obviously, since this is basically over, I don't really have anything to lose by posting this now.

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Best of luck to you guys going after Mpell. I never had to endure that process, for some reason, as ARG always told me they would be paying me directly. I was on the "expedited" list, so maybe that had something to do with it. I really don't know; no one explained to me why I never had to go through Mpell. One of my friends did, though, so she's obviously pissed about this whole thing.

ohboyitsryan

04-08-2009 15:38:59

what was priyankas email address

Eeyore

04-08-2009 16:03:58

Doesn't matter. All of the ARG addresses are dead now.

EatChex89

04-08-2009 16:20:28

FUCK THIS SHIT I WANT MY $500!

fbskiracer

04-08-2009 17:09:43

Well anyone who talked to Brad personally should have grounds for a more criminal complaint. Any lies he told put his stamp on the story. Breaking through the INC veil will be tough but in a small claims court or something, maybe you might get lucky with a sympathetic judge.

oleus

04-08-2009 17:18:29

[quotea509fb878f="EatChex89"]FUCK THIS SHIT I WANT MY $500![/quotea509fb878f]

i want my $3750, but it ain't happening.

edgespeeder04

04-08-2009 19:59:31

well how typical, they are gone with all the money they made.....bs they didn't loose it all. A major company never does. This sucks (

ashilef

04-08-2009 20:19:11

Well there isn't much else to talk about now, since we officially know that we ain't gettin shit.

I know it won't happen, but I wish this thread would just disappear and die already. I hate being reminded of these fucks every time I come here to read other threads.

hawke12

04-08-2009 21:19:24

[quote0d3e9580f5="edgespeeder04"]well how typical, they are gone with all the money they made.....bs they didn't loose it all. A major company never does. This sucks ([/quote0d3e9580f5]

Yup Mr Powers and Company are sittin' pretty on a pile of Hundred dollar bills, In a panama Bank, Laughin' their asses off, and Brainstorming the next one ;)

kinneylamb

05-08-2009 11:52:30

sometime in march/april this year

Me,

We have been informed by Active Response Group they will be transfering funds within the next two weeks.

Sincerely,
Mpell Solutions

-----

transferring funds huh? now how was that gonna happen when there was no funds to transfer?

tylerc

05-08-2009 13:58:11

That's irrelevant now. Game over, we lose.

ashilef

05-08-2009 14:24:21

[quotedb3ed38656="tylerc"]That's irrelevant now. Game over, we lose.[/quotedb3ed38656]

You said exactly what I was thinking...

box86rowh

06-08-2009 09:01:41

Monday, August 4, 2009

Dear lilililililililililililili,

According to our records, you may be a claimant of one or more consumer prize(s) from one of our consumer rewards sites.

Active Response Group, Inc. ("Active Response Group") is the parent company of Brandarama the Brand that you originally registered for.

As you know, many businesses have been hurt badly by the financial downturn and the credit crunch that followed the collapse of the subprime mortgage markets. Active Response Group, like many other firms, though not involved in any way in those activities, has seen its revenues drop dramatically. As a result, we found ourselves in very serious financial difficulty.

Despite taking various steps to reduce our costs and preserve value, we became unable to make our debt payments to our senior lender, Hercules Technology Growth Capital, Inc. ("Hercules"). Hercules had lent Active Response Group ~$10,000,000, which senior loans were secured by all of our assets. Since we were unable to pay our current payments, Hercules has foreclosed on its collateral and has sold Active Response Group's assets to a third party via an auction process. While the details of the transaction are subject to confidentially provision, the highest offer was insufficient to pay Hercules in full.

Unfortunately, Active Response Group's inability to pay Hercules in full means that with certainty Active Response has no funds to satisfy any consumer prize claims. Our customer service center is no longer in operation, and we will be winding down the affairs of the company under state law. So this is the last communication you can expect from us and we have no means of conducting further contact with you.

We are of course very disheartened by this turn of events, as we know you must be. We thank you for your patronage and wish you the best.

Very truly yours,

Customer Care Department

ashilef

06-08-2009 09:29:14

Yea we know...

tylerc

06-08-2009 10:02:25

3 weeks ago called, they want their update back.

mistertomlinson

06-08-2009 14:47:44

[quotef107e2b4b0="tylerc"]3 weeks ago called, they want their update back.[/quotef107e2b4b0]

lol

box86rowh

06-08-2009 20:50:30

For anyone that is interested, I am looking into a Class Action against anyone I can pin this on...

oleus

06-08-2009 21:13:51

[quote891f77f30a="box86rowh"]For anyone that is interested, I am looking into a Class Action against anyone I can pin this on...[/quote891f77f30a]

look through "recently dialed" on your cell phone and start there for who to "pin this on"

chewy

07-08-2009 03:41:24

[quote659ad2f09e="tylerc"]3 weeks ago called, they want their update back.[/quote659ad2f09e]

well...his avatar is promoting the indiana jones movie lol

kinneylamb

07-08-2009 08:44:28

you guys dont get it. i cant help you if you want to be losers fine. that kid above can get started on class action, ill take my post to the legal thread. what a bunch of cranky losers in this forum, unbelievable

Eeyore

07-08-2009 14:33:08

"cranky losers"

That's a pretty large brush you just painted us all with there, kiddo.

OK then Perry Mason, what is your legal theory, case plan and collection method?

ashilef

07-08-2009 16:43:44

[quote1712233311="kinneylamb"]you guys dont get it. i cant help you if you want to be losers fine. that kid above can get started on class action, ill take my post to the legal thread. what a bunch of cranky losers in this forum, unbelievable[/quote1712233311]

Sooo...I guess that makes you a "cranky loser" too right? I mean you keep coming back to commiserate with us!

oleus

07-08-2009 16:54:58

i'm a cranky winner.

Eeyore

07-08-2009 21:55:05

I'm just cranky, per my screen name.

mistertomlinson

07-08-2009 23:23:46

I'm most definitely ON crank! I'm tripping balls right now...

Powerbook

08-08-2009 09:00:04

I hope Brad ends up getting raped by a enormous black cock. Hopefully karma will bite back. This stupid receipt game angered me even more. They should have been honest over 1 year ago if they knew they couldn't pay up. The right thing to do would have been to give everyone a percentage of what they were owed many months ago.

Gman14

08-08-2009 23:18:29

exactly what I was thinking. Even some admins in the hyip/autosurf industry will give back a portion of what they owed people from a ponzi... which is all this was. As we all know the deal, ARG only made $100 or so for every $500 they were giving out. They relied on people not completing sites... when too many people were completing sites, bam. The ponzi crumbles. They should seriously be in jail.

orangejuice

08-08-2009 23:29:41

Speaking of HYIP, anyone remember 12dailypro? I made $5000 in that 4 years ago )

hum1m9e8r8b

09-08-2009 00:54:13

[quote8efc915b8e="orangejuice"]Speaking of HYIP, anyone remember 12dailypro? I made $5000 in that 4 years ago )[/quote8efc915b8e]
Damn, that's going back to the early days. I just remember that jackass, darbslim, screwing everybody.

Zags1199

09-08-2009 03:00:28

One of my friends made bank on 12DailyPro, too. Damn, that really was a long time ago, I think I was a junior in high school when it started.

Quick Google search shows that stuff is still going on with that court case http//www.tlennonfor12dailypro.com/

hum1m9e8r8b

09-08-2009 03:52:06

[quotec446d7ee03="Zags1199"]One of my friends made bank on 12DailyPro, too. Damn, that really was a long time ago, I think I was a junior in high school when it started.

Quick Google search shows that stuff is still going on with that court case http//www.tlennonfor12dailypro.com/[/quotec446d7ee03]
Didn't participate myself, but one of my friends jumped on it a second too late and lost a lot of money.

manOFice

09-08-2009 16:34:37

[quote38e371a10e="orangejuice"]Speaking of HYIP, anyone remember 12dailypro? I made $5000 in that 4 years ago )[/quote38e371a10e]

Do you remember alladvantage? ;)

orangejuice

09-08-2009 19:45:51

Yep i do, good old days. Something else too i forget what it was. Spediabar or something, there were so many things out then

Zags1199

09-08-2009 22:19:17

Anyone remember that one site that promised to give you a free laptop if you clicked one advertisement link a day and stayed on the page for 30 seconds? They ever so conveniently shut down when people started getting close to enough clicks.

bradjohnson08

10-08-2009 06:28:18

ya my last 12dp deposit was around $2,500 and it shut down. I am involved in the lawsuit. I bet I see about $10 of that $2,500. haha, o well I'm over it now

edgespeeder04

10-08-2009 07:33:46

[quote6a9a85a342="orangejuice"]Speaking of HYIP, anyone remember 12dailypro? I made $5000 in that 4 years ago )[/quote6a9a85a342]

yea that was where the money was at. Sucks all that is over. (

mistertomlinson

10-08-2009 14:13:10

I got involved with this stuff in '05 and haven't the slightest idea what you guys are talking about... and here I thought I was a "veteran." (

EDIT On a side note, if you walked into my apartment, you'd think I was a coke dealer.

dougp70

10-08-2009 16:41:12

Why? Do you have a lot of coke lying around?

wiebelhaus03

10-08-2009 18:22:21

He must have lots of coca-cola products lying around....

dubbin87

10-08-2009 18:32:30

[quote472c2040ee="mistertomlinson"]I got involved with this stuff in '05 and haven't the slightest idea what you guys are talking about... and here I thought I was a "veteran." (

EDIT On a side note, if you walked into my apartment, you'd think I was a coke dealer.[/quote472c2040ee]

So you've met Billy Mays then?

hum1m9e8r8b

10-08-2009 19:45:45

[quoteb34a1c16b4="mistertomlinson"]I got involved with this stuff in '05 and haven't the slightest idea what you guys are talking about... and here I thought I was a "veteran." ([/quoteb34a1c16b4]
This is back when Freepay and OC were the shit and everybody thought freebie money and hyip was the the silver bullet for making tons of easy money online (and it was for a while, for everyone who jumped on it first).

manOFice

11-08-2009 07:50:09

[quote61b01970d7="dubbin87"][quote61b01970d7="mistertomlinson"]I got involved with this stuff in '05 and haven't the slightest idea what you guys are talking about... and here I thought I was a "veteran." (

EDIT On a side note, if you walked into my apartment, you'd think I was a coke dealer.[/quote61b01970d7]

So you've met Billy Mays then?[/quote61b01970d7]

BILLY MAYS HERE!!! WITH YOUR FREE BOOK LIGHT

mistertomlinson

11-08-2009 14:45:02

[quoted1160a402f="dougp70"]Why? Do you have a lot of coke lying around?[/quoted1160a402f]

50" Samsung plasma (mounted on a TV stand which suspends the TV several feet above 3 layers of black glass which make up the table), XBox 360, PS3, PSP, 24" aluminum iMac, $1,000 ESP Edwards (only available in Japan), Randall half stack (nothing flashy. $600), POD XT Live guitar processor (the best money can buy, though still no comparison to a full rig of analog pedals), $2,000 Stonebridge acoustic (best acoustic I've ever played in my life) and over $1,000 in recording equipment that's steadily collecting dust (Rodes NT4 mic - dual capsule, PZ-Pre preamp and MOTU FireWire recording interface)... and of course, an iPod and iPhone, which I listen to using a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pros.

Most of this stuff was actually put on a credit card. I would make payments until a freebie site came through, then I'd pay the balance off. In the event that my interest-free introductory period was about to expire, I'd transfer the balance to a new card with a new, 12 month interest-free period and wait for another freebie payoff. I only had to do it a few times and did more good to my credit then harm. My score is currently 769.

I fuckin' love freebies! It's actually a little depressing to look at how easy it used to be to get damn near whatever you wanted with a little time... and now it appears those days are long gone, for good.

I was actually in the process of pulling off my biggest freebie yet... and what I was considering my last. I had planned to buy a car. Not brand new, but close to it. By my calculations, I really thought I'd have around $10,000. I already had $2K in my savings and ARG owed me $5K. I was gonna get the rest from referral sites and maybe a couple I Deals... lisigh. I'm not even sure it's worth pursuing anymore.

skinnyhoops

11-08-2009 15:23:22

Yeah, the quick and easy deals are probably done.

ARG owes me $1000 ...i used about $700 of that to purchase my very first HDTV. I'm upset that I won't be getting the $1000 reimbursement, however, I'm proud to own my new TV. In a way, I can also put this whole deal behind me and move on. I'm thankful I didn't spend more than $1000. In a way, my purchases may have helped some companies with sales, which in turn helps our weak economy and prevents more layoffs. I know (1) HDTV purchase isn't going to make a difference in corporate bottom line, but I did my part and got something I can use for many years to come.

tylerc

11-08-2009 23:48:13

I could have really used the money too; I was owed $3,900 and that would have been awesome to have as a full-time college student.

slambam

12-08-2009 09:39:32

Yep, woulda been nice. I was just planning on putting all $3000 I was owed on my car loan. So much for that...

RolltheStampede

12-08-2009 11:33:31

I remember people getting 2500 cheks for doing 6 offers for plasmas from YFD.

prizejunkie

12-08-2009 11:39:52

whatever i scammed like 12k out of this company, i dont really care about the last 2500 in retrospect lol

skinnyhoops

12-08-2009 13:28:05

Scammed? perhaps you should use that $12k you scammed and pay the rest of us who were legit. People like you who admit your scammed them, were overpaid by doing a few offers, and probably had absolutely no interest in the offers in the first place should be banned from this forum. Just go away

dubbin87

12-08-2009 17:46:21

[quote0c01b78ea1="skinnyhoops"]Scammed? perhaps you should use that $12k you scammed and pay the rest of us who were legit. People like you who admit your scammed them, were overpaid by doing a few offers, and probably had absolutely no interest in the offers in the first place should be banned from this forum. Just go away[/quote0c01b78ea1]

So you really wanted all the cock pills you signed up for?
shock

mistertomlinson

12-08-2009 18:10:47

I did. (

skinnyhoops

12-08-2009 18:40:49

if you need cock pills, then thats your own problem.

I used sponsor offers on trials I was sincerely interested in, for myself and/or my family.

I have a feeling some of you guys don't get it, all the scammers who tried to use ARG as their source of income can be considered a major factor in why we're no longer receiving anything from ARG.

oleus

12-08-2009 22:47:10

[quote6472374a86="skinnyhoops"]if you need cock pills, then thats your own problem.

I used sponsor offers on trials I was sincerely interested in, for myself and/or my family.

I have a feeling some of you guys don't get it, all the scammers who tried to use ARG as their source of income can be considered a major factor in why we're no longer receiving anything from ARG.[/quote6472374a86]

that's a very good point...although ARG was completely oblivious in their confirmation process so it's still hard to blame the "scammers" as opposed to the approvers of said scammers....

mistertomlinson

13-08-2009 05:59:37

[quotefd48fcb595="oleus"][quotefd48fcb595="skinnyhoops"]if you need cock pills, then thats your own problem.

I used sponsor offers on trials I was sincerely interested in, for myself and/or my family.

I have a feeling some of you guys don't get it, all the scammers who tried to use ARG as their source of income can be considered a major factor in why we're no longer receiving anything from ARG.[/quotefd48fcb595]

that's a very good point...although ARG was completely oblivious in their confirmation process so it's still hard to blame the "scammers" as opposed to the approvers of said scammers....[/quotefd48fcb595]

On the other hand, I can guarantee I-Deal (for example) gets scammed just as much as ARG and are still conducting business. Why? Because they have raised requirements in response to this market and it's challenges, something we all know ARG didn't do. You wont find anymore $1,000 I-Deal sites, unless they require a couple of referrals. Hell, if I've been keeping up, you'd be lucky to find anything more than $500 for 8 offers.

ARG on the other hand left a 4 offer $1,000 and a $2,500 site up for far too long. Everything started going downhill shortly after. My first ARG site was for $599 and it only took about 5 months to get paid... this was before their higher payouts. It was the last payment I got in that little time. My next site was the 4 offer $1,000 Visa, which took a year... you get the idea?

I'm not siding with anyone who may have completed their sites illegitimately, however suggesting the cause of ARG's discontinuance was anything other than their poor business practices is almost siding with ARG and suggesting it wasn't entirely their fault, when it was... all of it.

skinnyhoops

13-08-2009 06:16:26

mistertom, I agree that ARG had poor business practices as well.

All i'm saying is the scammers simply contributed to the downfall of ARG, whether rock bottom happened this year or years down the road. It's not the sole reason, but it deserves to be pointed out I think.

But when someone is bragging on the forums here laughing about scamming $12k, and not worrying about the other $2500 that was owed....<shakes> makes me want to punch them in the face.

hum1m9e8r8b

13-08-2009 07:42:45

Anybody who has been in the diy seen since around its beginning really shouldn't be surprised that any of this is happening. The whole scene has been heading this way for a long time and you would have to be an optimistic fool to think that things could have continued to sustain such explosive growth. This is whyA4F had such a hard time getting a specific diy thread because they guessed (correctly) that people would game the system and overflood it (sound familiar?).

freeipodplayer

16-08-2009 22:52:22

I took in over 18k from Brandarama in one year (28k in 2 years I think...THANKS Hercules!)... and guess what, I was interested in every trial I purchased, and then just before they went under, I took them to small claims and WON. You guys are all just lazy. That is what it comes down to.

I am not even going to talk about YFD, Reward Depot, PTP, or Ideal. lol

tylerc

17-08-2009 12:10:52

There is no way you completed $28k in free sites legitimately.

ghounds07

17-08-2009 12:58:17

o rly?

viperklt21

17-08-2009 20:00:02

[quote41d63e4601="freeipodplayer"]I took in over 18k from Brandarama in one year (28k in 2 years I think...THANKS Hercules!)... and guess what, I was interested in every trial I purchased, and then just before they went under, I took them to small claims and WON. You guys are all just lazy. That is what it comes down to.

I am not even going to talk about YFD, Reward Depot, PTP, or Ideal. lol[/quote41d63e4601]

You were only interested in them because they would lead to money.

dubbin87

18-08-2009 03:26:34

Welp the next 2 pages are poeple going to be pissing and moaning about what he just said.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

mariners1999

18-08-2009 08:41:19

[quote9d5a5e6665="dubbin87"]Welp the next 2 pages are poeple going to be pissing and moaning about what he just said.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee![/quote9d5a5e6665]


Lock this thread PLEASE!!!!!!! Give me a reason to stop
coming here and getting depressed. The company is gone.
No one is getting any more money and if something changes
you can unlock the thread at that point. Thanks

cry

oleus

18-08-2009 08:58:29

sadly i agree.

ashilef

18-08-2009 09:23:26

[quote594da10ca8="mariners1999"][quote594da10ca8="dubbin87"]Welp the next 2 pages are poeple going to be pissing and moaning about what he just said.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee![/quote594da10ca8]


Lock this thread PLEASE!!!!!!! Give me a reason to stop
coming here and getting depressed. The company is gone.
No one is getting any more money and if something changes
you can unlock the thread at that point. Thanks

cry[/quote594da10ca8]
+1

dmorris68

18-08-2009 10:26:32

Barring any significant objections, I'll lock it later today. "Legal" discussions can continue in the legal thread. I think this one has outlived its usefulness.

mctrask

18-08-2009 15:34:37

Hercules Technology Announces Second Quarter 2009 Financial Results and Declares a $0.30 Cash...
Publication Business Wire
Date Thursday, August 6 2009

http//www.allbusiness.com/company-activities-management/financial-performance/12612188-1.html[]http//www.allbusiness.com/company-activities-management/financial-performance/12612188-1.html

[quotee5a0474ff9]In July 2009, the assets of Active Response Group, Inc. were purchased by Caivis, Inc. for approximately $1.25 million of cash and common stock. As a result of the transaction, Hercules will incur a realized loss of approximately $8.6 million on the Active Response Group, Inc. debt, equity and warrant investments in the third quarter of 2009. [/quotee5a0474ff9]

Well, at least we weren't the only ones to get screwed. Would hate to be the person at Hercules that recommended ARG as a good investment.

Zags1199

18-08-2009 15:52:13

$1.25 million? Laugh out loud, ARG is pathetic.

ghounds07

18-08-2009 19:22:29

and yet hercules is still a profitable company...how dumb

orangejuice

19-08-2009 02:06:14

I got over 18k too, maybe more. they didnt even send me a 1099 the last couple of years lol.

also, i just found a $500 best buy card from them..i thought i had lost it! i'm goin to go spend it tomorrow.

i think im gonna donate that $50 to the forum now. mr. morris, fire that donate page link over!

madmanx33

19-08-2009 23:45:52

Anyone know if we are able to deduct this on our taxes as a loss or something

hawke12

20-08-2009 06:13:46

You can bet we'll see a fresh crop of D.I.Y sites soon ;)

http//www.caivis.com/companies.php

http//www.caivis.com/acquisition.php


Oh and here's the contact page, in case anyone wants to rant at the new owners, lol. Fuck 'em and feed 'em beans ;)

http//www.caivis.com/contact-us.php

Oh and when you acquire a company like ARG, don't you also Acquire that companies debt? Or am I wrong?

tylerc

20-08-2009 10:42:47

We were unsecured creditors; we're SOL.

Give up people, it's over.

ashilef

20-08-2009 12:18:39

[quotebc55ad9dd2="tylerc"]We were unsecured creditors; we're SOL.

Give up people, it's over.[/quotebc55ad9dd2]

Yea seriously...I thought this thread was going to be locked.

wiebelhaus03

20-08-2009 14:25:45

[quoted3aaa482af="hawke12"]You can bet we'll see a fresh crop of D.I.Y sites soon ;)

http//www.caivis.com/companies.php

http//www.caivis.com/acquisition.php


Oh and here's the contact page, in case anyone wants to rant at the new owners, lol. Fuck 'em and feed 'em beans ;)

http//www.caivis.com/contact-us.php

Oh and when you acquire a company like ARG, don't you also Acquire that companies debt? Or am I wrong?[/quoted3aaa482af]

They only acquired the assets, not the entire company i believe....

RolltheStampede

20-08-2009 18:06:58

So you can buy the milk without buying the Cow, who would have thought.

crazy4beatz

24-08-2009 12:20:33

this really should be a time for everybody to look back and just be happy for the opportunity that we were part of.

im out 1k but winning overall. im up 15k+ plasmas, macs, laptops, ipods, washer/dryer, gift cards. close your eyes, imagine a room full of all the prizes you have ever won. smile. now open your eyes and move on.

could have even made the cutoff to get my last 1k if i only sent in all my docs as soon as i got them, and not let it wait. cheap lesson learned, if you are proactive and on top of your stuff (aka not lazy), you will win!

get in, get out, get paid!
its been real DIY, thanks for everything!

Zags1199

24-08-2009 13:26:44

That's all fine and dandy, but there were some people who never received anything.

ashilef

24-08-2009 17:39:33

[quote02f6d0f7be="Zags1199"]That's all fine and dandy, but there were some people who never received anything.[/quote02f6d0f7be]

Pretty much...I never got anything from this company.

freeipodplayer

24-08-2009 21:36:06

[quote688fdbe779="tylerc"]There is no way you completed $28k in free sites legitimately.[/quote688fdbe779]

The courts thought so. I did too. I was interested in the offers because they made me money!

EatChex89

24-08-2009 23:20:53

I made about 80$ with 12DP unfortunately I couldn't get involved in the lawsuit.

box86rowh

21-09-2009 19:14:28

Found this on ofree.net...

http//www.mfl-center.com/DTw1861dd8687?sud=1717

Whois...seems like they are still around...


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massman

21-09-2009 19:17:33

not in business, probably just didn't take a few of their non advertised sites or something

ghounds07

21-09-2009 22:55:52

nah, looks like they are back. Brady Brown was the CTO of ARG if i'm not mistaken. Seems as if they adopted similar rules to nuitech (must be an active member of each offer for 30 days, limited cancellations, etc.).

mistertomlinson

22-09-2009 05:27:52

[quote183f911e41="ghounds07"]nah, looks like they are back. Brady Brown was the CTO of ARG if i'm not mistaken. Seems as if they adopted similar rules to nuitech (must be an active member of each offer for 30 days, limited cancellations, etc.).[/quote183f911e41]

They created those cancellation rules just before shutting down.

Secondly,

[quote183f911e41]These Official Gift Rules and Steps to Redeem Under the [b183f911e41]Cash Back Gift Certificate Program[/b183f911e41] are subject to the terms and conditions of the End User License Agreement[/quote183f911e41]

WTF?! If MPell is involved with this shit, I hope they die.

box86rowh

22-09-2009 07:14:48

All the stuff about being behind in shipping above the status is gone and some of the help is different...

http//www.mfl-center.com/lch.php?lk=1769&sesp=395_20969&pzid=&bid=146

Looks like they are owned by a company called Sterling Interactive Marketing....

mistertomlinson

22-09-2009 14:28:35

So we are positive this is ARG?

RolltheStampede

22-09-2009 16:13:10

[quote955d598577="mistertomlinson"]So we are positive this is ARG?[/quote955d598577]

it has to be connected somehow, i logged in with one of my old brandarama account and pulled up a status page.


it had no gifts but its stiil there

freeipodplayer

22-09-2009 16:13:46

Who ever bought the assets of Active Response Group is now responsible for this company.


Before they took down all the old sites... yourtopbrands and those... they changed all the terms and conditions to show "Sterling Interactive Marketing Corp."

Although the old sites are down, you can still view them on Google's cache.

Proof http//209.85.229.132/search?q=cache3-dt1jT1JaIJwww.yourtopbrands.com/lch.php%3Flk%3D1769%26sesp%3D395_8481%26pzid%3D%26bid%3D12+%22Sterling+Interactive+Marketing+Corp.%22&cd=10&hl=es&ct=clnk&gl=es

zr2152

22-09-2009 17:22:29

wow. I would suggest you guys take some action.

freeipodplayer

22-09-2009 18:07:20

[quote22ae26a8a1="zr2152"]wow. I would suggest you guys take some action.[/quote22ae26a8a1]

Nobody can, holmes. New company. Welcome to the world of business 101.

mistertomlinson

22-09-2009 18:32:25

I'm definitely mailing them a bag of shit tomorrow.

orangejuice

22-09-2009 18:37:33

is there any chance of starting over at this or no shot?

kinneylamb

22-09-2009 19:43:33

mfl-center was created in february 2009. it was part of active response group. they left it online, and the offer pages are broken or incomplete. nothing to worry about.

zr2152

22-09-2009 21:38:24

[quotec29c9060d7="orangejuice"]is there any chance of starting over at this or no shot?[/quotec29c9060d7]

Probably can if they are actually up and running but you're looking at nuitech terms.

freeipodplayer

23-09-2009 03:02:31

[quote7bc5d9fe23="kinneylamb"]mfl-center was created in february 2009. it was part of active response group. they left it online, and the offer pages are broken or incomplete. nothing to worry about.[/quote7bc5d9fe23]

if it was just released on ofree.net, then someone from the company is advertising it, and paying for it. - I guess only the OP would know this.

freeipodplayer

23-09-2009 03:04:10

[quotedd7c1769e5="kinneylamb"]mfl-center was created in february 2009. it was part of active response group. they left it online, and the offer pages are broken or incomplete. nothing to worry about.[/quotedd7c1769e5]

And also, you have to remember that SOMEONE bought all the assets. Therefore, they CAN run these sites again.

kinneylamb

23-09-2009 04:04:34

yea you're right, this is a doozy the who.is for sterlinginteractivemarking.com is caivis, the new company that bought the assetts.

sterling interactive marketing is a division of xl marketing. dont understand the caivis connection but they share the same logo with xl marketing.

RolltheStampede

05-11-2009 12:35:55

I know the brandarama topic is locked, how about you unsticky it and let it bury itself in the forum

doylnea

05-11-2009 13:50:39

How about I just merge the two topics, leave the main one open, and ask everyone not to be dicks?

box86rowh

06-11-2009 08:14:07

How can I help it that my name is Richard.....

mistertomlinson

06-11-2009 17:05:27

It is nice to meet you Richard.

slambam

19-11-2009 13:28:53

Nobody probably cares, but I heard back from the California AG today. Enclosed was a letter from Mpell. Basically nothing new, they say they never assumed any obligation, that the agreement they signed was for fulfillment. Here are a couple points...

- ARG paid Mpell $21,900 to mail out and process approx 7200 letters
- ARG paid Mpell $1,000 to copy and mail all certificates and receipts to ARG when ARG decided they wanted to verify all the certificates themselves
- The total value of all the certificates was "in the millions of dollars"

Nothing new really, just some very interesting facts. I'm over it, I just thought it was pretty interesting. At least somebody got paid by ARG...

oleus

19-11-2009 14:11:16

wow, in the grand scheme of things Mpell wasn't getting paid much at all.

EatChex89

07-12-2009 23:00:37

So is this thing pretty much just dead then? No way of ever seeing a dime from this company??

oleus

08-12-2009 07:45:10

seems that way....you could always try mail fraud against Mpell but they circled the wagons pretty fast on that one.

kinneylamb

08-12-2009 21:36:11

[quoted05c63ed34="EatChex89"]So is this thing pretty much just dead then? No way of ever seeing a dime from this company??[/quoted05c63ed34]
did you read the letter they sent their customers 6 months ago? the company is gone

tylerc

09-12-2009 11:30:12

[quotee9f1524658="EatChex89"]So is this thing pretty much just dead then? No way of ever seeing a dime from this company??[/quotee9f1524658]

6 months ago called, they want their news back.