When will all the fun end?

Well it seems based on this forum (and others like scam.com) that the DIY scene began to grow around 1st to 2nd quarter of 2005. But since then it seems the scene is exploding.

So many more people pursuing these sites. So many more with patience to properly complete the sites...and unfortunately so many more frauders will come as well.

It definately can't last forever. Nuitech has already increased their offers and YFDirect is expected to soon (quote Gigante). But in the end, will these companies be able to afford giving out so many Plasmas and laptops? It seems to me the largest group of people signed up for sites (particularly YFD ones) from this past December, or late november, to end of January. That means many will be sending in their vouchers soon and requesting a LOT of merchandise.

So what do you think will happen with these sites in the future? Sure they will raise their requirements, and maybe add a higher ratio of OOD. But will their marketing strategy last through this rush of approvals soon to arrive?

Speaking personally, I'm close to tapped out on incentives now. I have been doing trading, which I am done with most main sites. I have completed about 4 DIYs (3 YFD, 1 Nuitech) all in mid january so i wait until march to send in vouchers.

I am sure that these sites will honor all pending rewards, or at least I [ide305c9108]really[/ide305c9108] hope they do. How long till the system is destroyed? [BTW I wasn't sure whether to put this in the off-topic board but I decided on here to get comments of those who are active DIY'ers.]

The great thing about many of these networks is that they are not solely incentive site companies. YFDirect, MetaRewards and NUITech all run affiliate advertising companies under their own name, or in NUITech's case, under a different name. This allows for diversity in their business. This also means that all of the leads they are sending to advertisers are not from strictly from their sites because they also run non-incentivized campaigns and provide non-incentivized campaigns to many sites. Some of these better leads allow them to make up for some of the fraudulant leads that are bound to happen with incentivized sites. At this time, I really don't see the big networks going anywhere. While their business plan may alter, and the direction of the incentivized market as we know it will change, I definitely see them sticking around for now because their websites bring in such a high volume of leads. If you notice, they all have low Alexa ratings (not that that means much), and everybody has gotten their spam at one time or another, so their websites are definitely advertised well.

looks like nuitech finally changed there 3 page offers to hard one now.

[quote4c6ffead14="killakizrecs"]looks like nuitech finally changed there 3 page offers to hard one now.[/quote4c6ffead14]

Its always been hard...

[quote75e7f47987="killakizrecs"]looks like nuitech finally changed there 3 page offers to hard one now.[/quote75e7f47987]

NUITech has always had tough page 3 offer requirements.

yea but they were always doable, now you have things like Credit Card applications and DTV systems

[quote0b5217e6ea]YFDirect, MetaRewards and NUITech all run affiliate advertising companies under their own name, or in NUITech's case, under a different name.[/quote0b5217e6ea]

I actually never knew that about those three sites. I thought they just plain sold our information to other companies and hence the 1485 emails in 2 weeks in my yahoo bulk folder. That makes those three in particular very credible companies, meaning they will probably honor everyone's gift requests throughout the time these incentive offers are up.

Now that I look back, I think I actually completed a Nuitech site back in Summer 2004 for a $50 Target gift card. The entire site structure and processing web page format as I recall was exactly the same. I just tried it out blindly after seeing their link on some page to test the legitimacy of it...and it worked out. So they've been around for at least 2 years to my knowledge...good to know. (again I assume that was before the mad craze..heh)

[quote5d15454257="killakizrecs"]yea but they were always doable, now you have things like Credit Card applications and DTV systems[/quote5d15454257]

I just looked and the last page is the same as it always been for me...

When all these sites started a few years ago, I seem to recall that all the last pages were pretty tough. A lot of DIRECTV and credit cards. I would bet that that is what we will return to. Of course, no matter what they throw out, someone will figure out a way to game it.

Most of them are a lot of credit cards and DirectTV. I really don't see the difference.

These sites have been around forever and will probably continue to exist for a very long time. You guys aren't seeing the big picture. These guys have gigantic advertising budgets, and can advertise cheaply (you see what gigante said about also being affiliate networks? that means they can list their own campaigns for free and run CPA campaigns). what looks to you like an 'explosion' is barely a drop in the bucket to these guys.

I dont think people truly grasp how long these companies have been around. I put in my email account from several years ago on some NUITECH sites and i was suprised to see that i had actually signed up for a couple things a few years ago. Im pretty bummed that i didnt figure out that DIY sites were legit until just a couple months ago..... there was a time when the ibook and viao were 4 [/color7b7e5df361]offers.... cry [b7b7e5df361][/b7b7e5df361]

As for how long DIY sites will be around... I think they will be around for many many years..... However i think the difficulty and numbers of offers required for gifts will continue to increase.... cry

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[quote1fe4173e68="phunkstar"][quote1fe4173e68="JUNIOR6886"]As for how long DIY sites will be around... I think they will be around for many many years..... However i think the difficulty and numbers of offers required for gifts will continue to increase.... cry[/quote1fe4173e68]

I think it just depends on the network. YF will almost surely up their offer amount within the next 3 months whereas Nuitech might have to lower theirs (18 offers for a plasma?! No thank you.) Metareward seems to have the right balance...if only they had more damn tier 3 offers. evil[/quote1fe4173e68]

I doubt that Nui-Tech will lower theirs... why would they want people to be able to get the expensive gifts easily? They lose money when they have to send gifts... They make the money from people who don't realize what they have to do, complete a few offers and then give up, with 18 offers it is very very hard, and people who don't know what they are doing won't complete... meaning no sending expensive gifts, and lots of money for Nui-Tech D

I wouldn't say the scene is exploding...i'd say there's a total of 20,000 TOPS on these forums who actively persue these sites without scamming. 20,000 people is a low number when you consider that a show on primetime TV can't survive with 4 million viewers (yes I'm bitter about arrested development) I think everyone's getting big bux doing DIY no matter what party you are in teh situation. >1 year is definitely my vote!

I hate threads like these.

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Why worry? Just enjoy it while it lasts. 8)

[quote6a2b446ab6="J4320"]I hate threads like these.

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Why worry? Just enjoy it while it lasts. 8)[/quote6a2b446ab6]

Anyone who 'coasts' through completing these types of sites so naively are doomed to in the end become suckers to quick hit scams like 12 Daily Pro.

How often does a new site come around promising a imac or someother nice product for low offer count, whereby [i6a2b446ab6]everyone[/i6a2b446ab6] jumps on the wagon without doing a company background check, or even properly reading the ToS. To me its always best to look ahead, or at least ask people whom are more knowledgable than me. Sometimes I get lucky and get a well thought out and clear response, and sometimes I may get a response thats a ahem waste.

As much fun as these games are, we're all in this to make profit. Thus making it a business for each of us, so I personally take it seriously. Can't just breeze through these sites without expecting the worst case scenario, or at least you shouldnt. And I am sure others are interested in the big picture and the credibility of these companies. But thats just my 2 cents.