Account Theft...
tjwor
09-02-2006 11:56:27
I'm curious to know what you guys think I am owed for this...
I had a consumerincentiverewards account set up with my old email address, it was an ibook for 6 offers. I was thinking last night that I may have set one up but wasn't sure. I went to look and it showed it was in shipping process. So I checked my email, which I hadn't done for over a year, and it had a shipping # listed. I checked the item and it showed it was beign shipped to New Jersey. I tried to get it canceled and shipped to me since it was my account and going under my name. They were going to cancel it until the person who took my account called (claiming to be me) and said they were shipping it to their cousin Rodney in New Jersey. They realized I was the real owner of the account since I got the email with the conformation #. They told me they would re-direct the item to my address, but called back later saying that since the other person completed the offers they would get the item not me. So I asked if I could get an account with 6 offers for an Ibook and they said no, that was a promotion only thing. This person had told them I gave him permission to use the account, which I had not done.
That person contacted me today saing he took the account, he is from this forum so I am asking you what I am owed. I would have completed the account last night for the ibook for 6 offers, but now I can not do so, because I would have to complete 15 offers, which is impossible for me right now...
This member has said he would compensate me for taking my account without asking, and that he was sorry but really wanted the ibook and couldn't find one for only 6 offers.
I'm still very pissed about the whole deal and wanted to get some other feedback of what is owed to me...
Yes he completed the offers but its not like I couldn't have done the offers on my own anyways, and everything is in my name, so it could end up that the tax forms come to me and I would get something for that...
What does everyone think about this?
Airkat
09-02-2006 12:05:42
I think I might know who you're talking about lol. I dunno, see if you can settle it out. Maybe $100 or something?
fitzuf
09-02-2006 12:18:15
wtf? Assuming you never gave him permission, that's really messed up. They need to password protect the accounts - I always thought it is strange that they don't. I think you are entitled to more than $100 - after all, I'm sure what he did constitutes fraud (hell I'm a lawyer, let me see the terms), in which case you could get his (your?) account terminated. Sure, no one really wins then, but it's good leverage for negotiating a settlement D - Good luck working something out.
Brutus
09-02-2006 12:21:50
You are entitled to an iBook. He commited identy theft, and you should report it to the police.
Darkfire001
09-02-2006 12:31:17
[quote7c95fd49d0]You are entitled to an iBook. He commited identy theft, and you should report it to the police.[/quote7c95fd49d0]
;) He actually did no work to get the Ibook other then registering.
That stated it was YOUR account, so it doesn't matter WHO did the offers, since it was all under your name.
The iBook is yours, or I'd require compensation in the amount of $700 sounds fair.
^ If he gets taxes that helps to cover it.
tylerc
09-02-2006 12:41:43
I say he owes you the iBook.
cyberpunk243
09-02-2006 12:42:27
How do you plan on getting anything from him in the first place?
EatChex89
09-02-2006 12:46:37
who is he?
megotcash
09-02-2006 12:46:55
yeah, it is totally yours. despite who did the offers and who did, the accoung is in YOUR name. that sucks though. i would try to call the DIY and try and get your laptop. sorry man
EatChex89
09-02-2006 12:52:07
[quoteb75e4be323="megotcash"]yeah, it is totally yours. despite who did the offers and who did, the accoung is in YOUR name. that sucks though. i would try to call the DIY and try and get your laptop. sorry man[/quoteb75e4be323]
he already did. read the whole thread, dumbass.
lol ;-)
but on a happier note. I <3 your avatar. Poor milton never got any cake, the dumb bitch made him pass it on.
megotcash
09-02-2006 12:54:45
haha, i know he called them, i actually know the guy...so maybe i'm not quite the dumbass eh?
i think he should call them back because of the change of events and the fact that he once was going to get it, now is not. yell like crazy buddy.
and i too agree, poor poor milton. had his stapler taken away and NO CAKE. makes me sad inside.
EatChex89
09-02-2006 13:01:32
[quote744cd89add="megotcash"]haha, i know he called them, i actually know the guy...so maybe i'm not quite the dumbass eh?
i think he should call them back because of the change of events and the fact that he once was going to get it, now is not. yell like crazy buddy.
and i too agree, poor poor milton. had his stapler taken away and NO CAKE. makes me sad inside.[/quote744cd89add]
oh okay, my bad oops
do you know who stole his account?
Also, how the hell did someone steal it?
Airkat
09-02-2006 13:08:51
I think it's best to keep the guy anonymous until this is resolved. And anyone doing a nuitech site can see how insecure it is...
tjwor
09-02-2006 13:08:51
[quotec2f75ec747="EatChex89"][quotec2f75ec747="megotcash"]haha, i know he called them, i actually know the guy...so maybe i'm not quite the dumbass eh?
i think he should call them back because of the change of events and the fact that he once was going to get it, now is not. yell like crazy buddy.
and i too agree, poor poor milton. had his stapler taken away and NO CAKE. makes me sad inside.[/quotec2f75ec747]
oh okay, my bad oops
do you know who stole his account?
Also, how the hell did someone steal it?[/quotec2f75ec747]
The guy that stole it PM'ed me and told me it was him, and he told me once it arived he would pay me something for taking my account... I was just askign here to see what I should ask for from him...
I'm guessing he was just messing around going through people's names and possible email addresses, my username tjwor, and added @hotmail.com... and it worked out for him, i just wish I would have caught it earlier than the day that they shipped the ibook...
theysayjump
09-02-2006 13:10:10
Do you know who he is on this forum? If not, give me the contact info you have for him and I'll try to find out.
I think you are owed an iBook or something of equivelant value, minus the cost of the offers. If it cost him $100 for the offers, then he should pay you maybe $700 or so?
How did he steal your account anyway? Did you leave the doors unlocked?
cyberpunk243
09-02-2006 13:15:38
I'm glad I use a different e-mail address than the one I have listed on here.
ilanbg
09-02-2006 14:00:29
The insecurity of those sites always bothered me.
tjwor
09-02-2006 14:08:52
[quotea00618db8b="cyberpunk243"]I'm glad I use a different e-mail address than the one I have listed on here.[/quotea00618db8b]
so do i... cry
EatChex89
09-02-2006 14:11:07
[quote70d5e11ca8="tjwor"][quote70d5e11ca8="cyberpunk243"]I'm glad I use a different e-mail address than the one I have listed on here.[/quote70d5e11ca8]
so do i... cry[/quote70d5e11ca8]
haha same with me, i have a special spam address that's like unguessable. seriously. haha, totally off-thewall
tjwor
09-02-2006 14:15:11
[quote0593e3a911="EatChex89"][quote0593e3a911="tjwor"][quote0593e3a911="cyberpunk243"]I'm glad I use a different e-mail address than the one I have listed on here.[/quote0593e3a911]
so do i... cry[/quote0593e3a911]
haha same with me, i have a special spam address that's like unguessable. seriously. haha, totally off-thewall[/quote0593e3a911]
I have like 5 different spam addresses, and I signed up with my hotmail one a while back, like a year ago I think... but it was saved for 6 offers, would have found it last night and completed if it hadn't been stolen...
xigxag
09-02-2006 15:31:23
wow, that sucks since that is pretty much the best freebie site yet and someone stole your opportunity. I agree with the $700 amount.
why did they ban you from scam tjwor?
Wolfeman
09-02-2006 16:15:40
Its lame they don't password their sites. I got banned and then unbanned from Scam once...
phoebe7
09-02-2006 17:25:19
That's bs. I would be so pissed. I would expect the person to compensate me for the ibook minus cost of offers. No doubt about it. Who was it by the way, I am really interested to find out the asshat who did this.
ilanbg
09-02-2006 17:36:43
I'd like to know also.
$700 sounds very reasonable.
kevxross
09-02-2006 17:38:11
Make him send you the ibook. Pay him for shipping and that'll cover his cost of completing offers. He deserves to have payed for all the offers for doing something this lame and shady.
nextlevel
09-02-2006 17:53:14
Identity theft is no joke anymore.
You will have to pay the taxes on the ibook, and if he sent in tax forms, he put down a ss# witch is major fraud.
I would call the police, and have the proper authorities look into this..
I would not take this lying down, or be happy with ANY compensation other the prosecution of this person.
(Your credit report will prolly show the ss# and address they gave, as information on you now)
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 18:07:17
I heard he used his own SS# not tjwor. So offically he would get the tax info. not tjwor.
nextlevel
09-02-2006 18:22:35
[quote9680d314c8="DIY_Man"]I heard he used his own SS# not tjwor. So offically he would get the tax info. not tjwor.[/quote9680d314c8]
It is illegal, and punishable by law.
Airkat
09-02-2006 19:19:33
[quotef5a479d7c6="DIY_Man"]I heard he used his own SS# not tjwor. So offically he would get the tax info. not tjwor.[/quotef5a479d7c6]
wonder how you heard that roll
tjwor
09-02-2006 19:23:04
[quote1730586d81="Airkat"][quote1730586d81="DIY_Man"]I heard he used his own SS# not tjwor. So offically he would get the tax info. not tjwor.[/quote1730586d81]
wonder how you heard that roll[/quote1730586d81]
That is what the guy told me, i was talkign to DIY_Man about it earlier...
Idk what i'm going to do yet... right now I don't plan to go to the police, but we'll see what compensation i am given...
ajrock2000
09-02-2006 19:23:11
[quoteaf4663d7d3="Airkat"][quoteaf4663d7d3="DIY_Man"]I heard he used his own SS# not tjwor. So offically he would get the tax info. not tjwor.[/quoteaf4663d7d3]
wonder how you heard that roll[/quoteaf4663d7d3]
lol
ilanbg
09-02-2006 19:24:21
[quoted95219fde9="Airkat"][quoted95219fde9="DIY_Man"]I heard he used his own SS# not tjwor. So offically he would get the tax info. not tjwor.[/quoted95219fde9]
wonder how you heard that roll[/quoted95219fde9]
I was just about to say that. He must be in the right circles.
Anyway, this is serious stuff that is going to cost you money if you don't go to the police. Don't take it up the ass on this one; I don't care how kind and generous you are, that guy is robbing you as far as I'm concerned.
Why not bring this guy out of the shadows so the rest of the board knows what kind of person they really are?
If not that then, he owes you the iBook, if not what the iBook is worth.
theysayjump
09-02-2006 19:28:06
Well he's already "out" but I highly doubt that he'll actually give you the iBook or anywhere near $700. He did it for a reason and I doubt he'd just hand that reason over to you, unless of course he has somewhat of a conscience.
But then if he did he wouldn't have done this in the first place.
Airkat
09-02-2006 19:30:44
agreed tsj. I strongly suggest you finish handling behind closed doors for now.
tjwor
09-02-2006 19:41:16
I'm not worried about telling everyone his username or anything, not that big of a deal... right now i'm just hoping to get my ibook, I know the guys name from CIP and I know the town he lives in. I will file with police if it comes to that, if he compensates me like he has said he would we will be done with it...
Maybe, just MAYBE, the company you got the iBook from helps you with getting in direct contact with him, address, or something. They know your he stole your account so they might make an exeption, but don't count on it.
As long as you have his full name and address, he better pay up or send it or he's in trouble.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 19:49:55
[quote0a8ec6743b="tjwor"]I'm not worried about telling everyone his username or anything, not that big of a deal... right now i'm just hoping to get my ibook, I know the guys name from CIP and I know the town he lives in. I will file with police if it comes to that, if he compensates me like he has said he would we will be done with it...[/quote0a8ec6743b]
What would the police do? He didnt steal your SSI or any personal info., he used his information on the voucher from what I heard . Nothing you can do about that, the police wont arrest him for using your CIP user name, from what i heard he didnt use any of your information on the Voucher, many people change there Voucher info. when they turn there voucher in, what would you tell police? He took your CIP email address and now i want my gift back??? I'm sure he will pay you.
[quote127c90b669="DIY_Man"][quote127c90b669="tjwor"]I'm not worried about telling everyone his username or anything, not that big of a deal... right now i'm just hoping to get my ibook, I know the guys name from CIP and I know the town he lives in. I will file with police if it comes to that, if he compensates me like he has said he would we will be done with it...[/quote127c90b669]
What would the police do? He didnt steal your SSI or any personal info., he used his information on the voucher from what I heard . Nothing you can do about that, the police wont arrest him for using your CIP user name, from what i heard he didnt use any of your information on the Voucher, many people change there Voucher info. when they turn there voucher in, what would you tell police? He took your CIP email address and now i want my gift back??? I'm sure he will pay you.[/quote127c90b669]
If he doesn't get the iBook, this guy should definately pay him what the iBook is worth. However, he can still get in contact with the police because the website would be cooperative and be on tjwor's side, obviously. Stealing something from someone, no matter how much the person thinks that they can't get caught, is punishable AND traceable. He has no other choice. wink
Airkat
09-02-2006 19:54:56
plus.. I'd help in any way I can DIY_Man... lii hear he lives near me in NJli
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 19:57:42
[quote438a7ee473="Veek"][quote438a7ee473="DIY_Man"][quote438a7ee473="tjwor"]I'm not worried about telling everyone his username or anything, not that big of a deal... right now i'm just hoping to get my ibook, I know the guys name from CIP and I know the town he lives in. I will file with police if it comes to that, if he compensates me like he has said he would we will be done with it...[/quote438a7ee473]
What would the police do? He didnt steal your SSI or any personal info., he used his information on the voucher from what I heard . Nothing you can do about that, the police wont arrest him for using your CIP user name, from what i heard he didnt use any of your information on the Voucher, many people change there Voucher info. when they turn there voucher in, what would you tell police? He took your CIP email address and now i want my gift back??? I'm sure he will pay you.[/quote438a7ee473]
If he doesn't get the iBook, this guy should definately pay him what the iBook is worth. However, he can still get in contact with the police because the website would be cooperative and be on twor's side, obviously. Stealing something from someone, no matter how much the person thinks that they can't get caught, is punishable AND traceable. He has no other choice. wink[/quote438a7ee473]
But he didnt steal nothing, just a username, i know the guy who did it and i won't tell on him either, all he did was used TJWOR user name on CIP and the other guy did all the offers, with his own CC and fill out the Voucher with his OWN info. never used TJWOR info and never had access to TJWOR info. This guy felt bad for what he did and I think he pay TJWOR for any misunderstanding. And trust me the police can't do nothing about a stolen email address and this guy contacted CIP too and they told him he should recieved the gift since he did the offers. Just my 2 cents.
tjwor
09-02-2006 20:05:58
[quoteccceb95c38="DIY_Man"][quoteccceb95c38="Veek"][quoteccceb95c38="DIY_Man"][quoteccceb95c38="tjwor"]I'm not worried about telling everyone his username or anything, not that big of a deal... right now i'm just hoping to get my ibook, I know the guys name from CIP and I know the town he lives in. I will file with police if it comes to that, if he compensates me like he has said he would we will be done with it...[/quoteccceb95c38]
What would the police do? He didnt steal your SSI or any personal info., he used his information on the voucher from what I heard . Nothing you can do about that, the police wont arrest him for using your CIP user name, from what i heard he didnt use any of your information on the Voucher, many people change there Voucher info. when they turn there voucher in, what would you tell police? He took your CIP email address and now i want my gift back??? I'm sure he will pay you.[/quoteccceb95c38]
If he doesn't get the iBook, this guy should definately pay him what the iBook is worth. However, he can still get in contact with the police because the website would be cooperative and be on twor's side, obviously. Stealing something from someone, no matter how much the person thinks that they can't get caught, is punishable AND traceable. He has no other choice. wink[/quoteccceb95c38]
But he didnt steal nothing, just a username, i know the guy who did it and i won't tell on him either, all he did was used TJWOR user name on CIP and the other guy did all the offers, with his own CC and fill out the Voucher with his OWN info. never used TJWOR info and never had access to TJWOR info. This guy felt bad for what he did and I think he pay TJWOR for any misunderstanding. And trust me the police can't do nothing about a stolen email address and this guy contacted CIP too and they told him he should recieved the gift since he did the offers. Just my 2 cents.[/quoteccceb95c38]
The only thing is is that the account is in my name, because on the email with the tracking number it said my name, so it must have been shipped to me, just different address than on my account...
And it was identity theft because CIP said while I was on the phone with them that there was someone else on the phone claiming to be me, who was shipping it to his cousin in new jersey... they hung up when CIP said they had another person on the phone claiming to be Me...
Idk, i'm just going to wait and see what happens with everything before I go any further doing anything at all...
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 20:11:29
From what i heard it was shipped to his name on the Voucher, see once they get the Voucher the based the information on there, such as Name and the address and SSI#, so he basically put his name on there, and they updated it. They didn't ship it to his address with your name and your SSI# because that wasn't on the voucher. He told me he talk to a rep on CIP and they let him have the gift since he show proof that he did all the offers. So what would the police do, since CIP actually told him they would send him the gift because they wanted to see if he actually did the offer. All he did was use your email address and CIP knew that.
tjwor
09-02-2006 20:18:20
Well, I know they didn't erase everything from my account because the email sent to me had my name on it...
theysayjump
09-02-2006 20:18:34
So who pays the taxes on it come next year?
Wolfeman
09-02-2006 20:20:25
They didn't have his SS# so he shouldn't pay the taxes...
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 20:23:23
[quote3413a2a777="tjwor"]Well, I know they didn't erase everything from my account because the email sent to me had my name on it...[/quote3413a2a777]
Of course because when everyone logs in there account your original name shows up in the upper corner, but when you send in the voucher they updated the information. CIP knows that and thats there flaw.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 20:23:59
[quotea64c2f0fed="theysayjump"]So who pays the taxes on it come next year?[/quotea64c2f0fed]
The guy who took the account.
tjwor
09-02-2006 20:31:01
Wow, i'm getting way off topic because of questions... the problem for me really isn't that it is in my name or anything, as long as the taxes don't come to me, the problem is that I would have completed last night, 6 offers for an ibook, which I can no longer do, there is no way I could complete 15 offers so I am SOL for an ibook... That is why I am really pissed off...
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 20:36:27
[quotef1ed58fe19="tjwor"]Wow, i'm getting way off topic because of questions... the problem for me really isn't that it is in my name or anything, as long as the taxes don't come to me, the problem is that I would have completed last night, 6 offers for an ibook, which I can no longer do, there is no way I could complete 15 offers so I am SOL for an ibook... That is why I am really pissed off...[/quotef1ed58fe19]
You know your not getting any tax info., according to this guy CIP told him he will recieve all info. such as Tax and any info. since the voucher info was under his name and SSI# number and all.
Brutus
09-02-2006 20:37:09
The person that did this commited fraud, by using an email address that belonged to somebody else to have the opportunity to complete the offers.
He mis-represented himself to the company by using tjwor's email address, and in the process denied tjwor the opportunity to complete the offers.
If you file a police report THEY will handle it as an identy theft case, and since it occured over wired communications the person may also be charged with wire fraud.
People may not think that what he did was not illegal, but it was.
You should also talk to the company again and try and reason with them again, and if you file a report get a report number and let them know what it is.
tjwor
09-02-2006 20:40:59
[quotea47aab63d8="Brutus"]The person that did this commited fraud, by using an email address that belonged to somebody else to have the opportunity to complete the offers.
He mis-represented himself to the company by using tjwor's email address, and in the process denied tjwor the opportunity to complete the offers.
If you file a police report THEY will handle it as an identy theft case, and since it occured over wired communications the person may also be charged with wire fraud.
People may not think that what he did was not illegal, but it was.
You should also talk to the company again and try and reason with them again, and if you file a report get a report number and let them know what it is.[/quotea47aab63d8]
Good info, the guy has continues to read this and has been PMing me replies, he said he will give me compensation for it, as soon as it arives, which is scheduled for tomorrow...
I think CIP tried to stop his ibook and stopped mine that was supposed to come from IRC, I called UPS because I saw within liek 10 minites of it showing "Reciever Refused package and it will be sent back" that it said that, i told them I was supposed to be receiving it and she changed it back, called the local UPS office, and they called me to confirm, they brought me my ibook about an hour later... it was quick saying the call was from a town 25 miles away, where I think the laptop was...
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 20:50:20
[quoteb68c319673="Brutus"]The person that did this commited fraud, by using an email address that belonged to somebody else to have the opportunity to complete the offers.
He mis-represented himself to the company by using tjwor's email address, and in the process denied tjwor the opportunity to complete the offers.
If you file a police report THEY will handle it as an identy theft case, and since it occured over wired communications the person may also be charged with wire fraud.
People may not think that what he did was not illegal, but it was.
You should also talk to the company again and try and reason with them again, and if you file a report get a report number and let them know what it is.[/quoteb68c319673]
The email had no password or any vaulable information, the user can tell anybody that he accidentlly found this email, since the email had no password, if the email had a password then you can call it Fraud. Plus the guy who took the account felt really bad since he thought TJWOR didn't use the account no more, because he saw TJWOR posting that he is getting an IBOOK from IRC and $10,000 of other prizes, so he thought Tjwor forgot about the account.
[quotecdab310d81="DIY_Man"][quotecdab310d81="Brutus"]The person that did this commited fraud, by using an email address that belonged to somebody else to have the opportunity to complete the offers.
He mis-represented himself to the company by using tjwor's email address, and in the process denied tjwor the opportunity to complete the offers.
If you file a police report THEY will handle it as an identy theft case, and since it occured over wired communications the person may also be charged with wire fraud.
People may not think that what he did was not illegal, but it was.
You should also talk to the company again and try and reason with them again, and if you file a report get a report number and let them know what it is.[/quotecdab310d81]
The email had no password or any vaulable information, the user can tell anybody that he accidentlly found this email, since the email had no password, if the email had a password then you can call it Fraud. Plus the guy who took the account felt really bad since he thought TJWOR didn't use the account no more, because he saw TJWOR posting that he is getting an IBOOK from IRC and $10,000 of other prizes, so he thought Tjwor forgot about the account.[/quotecdab310d81]
It doesn't matter if there was no password needed. The e-mail did NOT belong to him. It's still classified as fraud because that e-mail was registered/owned by someone else rather than the person who got the book. And everything here is being quoted, if the police would look at this forum and see your replies, they'd know it was all setup as a lie.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 20:59:13
[quote8f7007636e="Veek"][quote8f7007636e="DIY_Man"][quote8f7007636e="Brutus"]The person that did this commited fraud, by using an email address that belonged to somebody else to have the opportunity to complete the offers.
He mis-represented himself to the company by using tjwor's email address, and in the process denied tjwor the opportunity to complete the offers.
If you file a police report THEY will handle it as an identy theft case, and since it occured over wired communications the person may also be charged with wire fraud.
People may not think that what he did was not illegal, but it was.
You should also talk to the company again and try and reason with them again, and if you file a report get a report number and let them know what it is.[/quote8f7007636e]
The email had no password or any vaulable information, the user can tell anybody that he accidentlly found this email, since the email had no password, if the email had a password then you can call it Fraud. Plus the guy who took the account felt really bad since he thought TJWOR didn't use the account no more, because he saw TJWOR posting that he is getting an IBOOK from IRC and $10,000 of other prizes, so he thought Tjwor forgot about the account.[/quote8f7007636e]
It doesn't matter if there was no password needed. The e-mail did NOT belong to him. It's still classified as fraud because that e-mail was registered/owned by someone else rather than the person who got the book. And everything here is being quoted, if the police would look at this forum and see your replies, they'd know it was all setup as a lie.[/quote8f7007636e]
Hold up buddy, this is not me who stole the account and i know the guy who did it and CIP AGREED TO GIVE THE OTHER USER THE BOOK, after they settled the situation already, and SINCE HE SHOWED PROOF OF DOING THE OFFERS, so the POLICE can't do nothing since THE COMPANY AGREED TO GIVE HIM THE GIFT. wow, listen, read well and learn.
It was up to CIP hands, and they let the guy who did the offer, recieved the ibook. If CIP didn't agree then you can go ahead and call the cops on this Guy, but not much the cops can do since the company is backing up the other USER.
And for that you will have to go to small claims court and this case wouldn't even reach no where, since the MAIN COMPANY CIP agreed to give the gift to the other User. I feel bad for both guys that are going through this.
I know what you said, and nowhere in my reply did I accuse you of being that person. But since you have ties with this person, and you're stating how easy it is for him to lie, then they can easily look at that.
Don't try to talk down to me, all attemps to do so will result in half-assed eye-rolls and giggles.
ajrock2000
09-02-2006 21:06:42
[quotec8d688d134="Veek"]Don't try to talk down to me, all attemps to do so will result in half-assed eye-rolls and giggles.[/quotec8d688d134]
and maybe a few owls roll lol
[quotef398581b7b="ajrock2000"][quotef398581b7b="Veek"]Don't try to talk down to me, all attemps to do so will result in half-assed eye-rolls and giggles.[/quotef398581b7b]
and maybe a few owls roll lol[/quotef398581b7b]
My owls are always ready to attack. One even says "Kill with fire!"
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 21:09:42
[quotef70dc9638f="Veek"]I know what you said, and nowhere in my reply did I accuse you of being that person. But since you have ties with this person, and you're stating how easy it is for him to lie, then they can easily look at that.
Don't try to talk down to me, all attemps to do so will result in half-assed eye-rolls and giggles.[/quotef70dc9638f]
Im not saying how it is easy to lie, because in fact this is all true stuff that is happening. He didnt lie, he did the offers under his name and CIP back him up saying, "show us proof of the offer you did" and i think the user fax the info. over and CIP agreed it should be sent to the sender that did the offer. The cops cannot come to this guys house or whatever and say hey you stole an ibook, which in fact he didn't because the company CIP agreed to give it to him after the situation was settled with all parties. I see almost every now and then people sign up to have accounts for later references or trade off there 6 offer ibook accounts and the other day people on this forum where saying you can sign up at email==John@hotmail.comJohn@hotmail.com=John@hotmail.comJohn@hotmail.com/email and do the offers and mail in the voucher under there name. This guy is a good guy, just got tempted in the wrong situation, learn to live with regrets i guess, but calling the cops won't save this situation.
fitzuf
09-02-2006 21:27:08
Yes, but this was clearly not just a crapshoot where he tried generic email addresses like john@hotmail and it worked - this was deliberately using another's account. Regardless of any legal implications, it was still a tactless, classless act. Just imagine how mad you'd be if someone did that to you. It [ib3f22cb9bc]was[/ib3f22cb9bc] ballsy though - I'll give him that.
theysayjump
09-02-2006 21:29:43
[quotede23ab9d15="DIY_Man"][quotede23ab9d15="Veek"]I know what you said, and nowhere in my reply did I accuse you of being that person. But since you have ties with this person, and you're stating how easy it is for him to lie, then they can easily look at that.
Don't try to talk down to me, all attemps to do so will result in half-assed eye-rolls and giggles.[/quotede23ab9d15]
Im not saying how it is easy to lie, because in fact this is all true stuff that is happening. He didnt lie, he did the offers under his name and CIP back him up saying, "show us proof of the offer you did" and i think the user fax the info. over and CIP agreed it should be sent to the sender that did the offer. The cops cannot come to this guys house or whatever and say hey you stole an ibook, which in fact he didn't because the company CIP agreed to give it to him after the situation was settled with all parties. I see almost every now and then people sign up to have accounts for later references or trade off there 6 offer ibook accounts and the other day people on this forum where saying you can sign up at email==John@hotmail.comJohn@hotmail.com=John@hotmail.comJohn@hotmail.com/email and do the offers and mail in the voucher under there name. This guy is a good guy, just got tempted in the wrong situation, learn to live with regrets i guess, but calling the cops won't save this situation.[/quotede23ab9d15]
It sounds more like you're trying to tell yourself that going to the cops won't do anything so that your friend (if he's a friend) doesn't get in trouble.
If it was me, I'd be contacting the police.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 21:31:04
[quote2f1e3add75="fitzuf"]Yes, but this was clearly not just a crapshoot where he tried generic email addresses like john@hotmail and it worked - this was deliberately using another's account. Regardless of any legal implications in the matter, it was still a tactless, classless act. Just imagine how mad you'd be if someone did that to you. It was ballsy though - I'll give him that.[/quote2f1e3add75]
I understand where your coming from and I understand where the other user is coming from. He thought since Tjwor had all these gifts and stuff, he thought tjwor forgot about the account. I agreed it's ballsy, but hopefully they will settle it like two grown people, since CIP agreed to give the ibook to the other user.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 21:34:43
[quoteb6aa6c8431="theysayjump"][quoteb6aa6c8431="DIY_Man"][quoteb6aa6c8431="Veek"]I know what you said, and nowhere in my reply did I accuse you of being that person. But since you have ties with this person, and you're stating how easy it is for him to lie, then they can easily look at that.
Don't try to talk down to me, all attemps to do so will result in half-assed eye-rolls and giggles.[/quoteb6aa6c8431]
Im not saying how it is easy to lie, because in fact this is all true stuff that is happening. He didnt lie, he did the offers under his name and CIP back him up saying, "show us proof of the offer you did" and i think the user fax the info. over and CIP agreed it should be sent to the sender that did the offer. The cops cannot come to this guys house or whatever and say hey you stole an ibook, which in fact he didn't because the company CIP agreed to give it to him after the situation was settled with all parties. I see almost every now and then people sign up to have accounts for later references or trade off there 6 offer ibook accounts and the other day people on this forum where saying you can sign up at email==John@hotmail.comJohn@hotmail.com=John@hotmail.comJohn@hotmail.com/email and do the offers and mail in the voucher under there name. This guy is a good guy, just got tempted in the wrong situation, learn to live with regrets i guess, but calling the cops won't save this situation.[/quoteb6aa6c8431]
It sounds more like you're trying to tell yourself that going to the cops won't do anything so that your friend (if he's a friend) doesn't get in trouble.
If it was me, I'd be contacting the police.[/quoteb6aa6c8431]
Again this is not me who stole the damn account. What would you tell the cops??? CIP agreed to give him the gift.
CIP agreed on gift
COPS come and say hey some guy called the cops to take away an ibook, but the company did agree to give it to you. What can they do?? lol
CIP again agreed to give the GIFT to the user after he showed proof of doing the offer. Case settled. Cops can't do much if a company that issues the gift AGREED and i will say it again AGREED to give him that gift after all was settled between both parties.
Lets be real COPS have more important stuff then a called from somone accusing of using an email address to get an IBOOK. lol
Airkat
09-02-2006 22:00:13
/me also thinks it was DIY_Man...
fitzuf
09-02-2006 22:03:00
From searching some prior threads, I have a few ideas as to who it may be.
fitzuf
09-02-2006 22:04:16
With reards to it being DIY Man - who knows. It is strange however that it appears he just created this account to come on here and defend his "friend."
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 22:13:23
[quote70a94d3018="fitzuf"]With reards to it being DIY Man - who knows. It is strange however that it appears he just created this account to come on here and defend his "friend."[/quote70a94d3018]
think what you want to think and believe what you want to believe, no i created this account a week ago, just to post my gift and join the forum, the user i know is from scam.com and i see that you guys are trying to bash him on here and i know him well and i feel bad for him and trying to defend an innocent man. so think what you want, it wont effect me.
fitzuf
09-02-2006 22:15:21
I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 22:16:58
[quote2fec42ee69="fitzuf"]I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings[/quote2fec42ee69]
Dont worry, your not. D
tjwor
09-02-2006 22:18:48
Wow, i finally started a post that actually got some replies, i feel special oops
haha, just playin, but it is pretty big for only 8 hours, especially in the DIY area...
Airkat
09-02-2006 22:22:45
[quote425ec2b2eb="DIY_Man"]i feel bad for him and trying to [b425ec2b2eb]defend an innocent man[/b425ec2b2eb]. so think what you want, it wont effect me.[/quote425ec2b2eb]
shock An innocent man who stole an account?
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 22:25:01
[quote60d5a72626="Airkat"][quote60d5a72626="DIY_Man"]i feel bad for him and trying to [b60d5a72626]defend an innocent man[/b60d5a72626]. so think what you want, it wont effect me.[/quote60d5a72626]
shock An innocent man who stole an account?[/quote60d5a72626]
lol...maybe that was too extreme 4 yall, but anyways i was speaking on his behalf, he did do something wrong, but everybody is innocent until proven guilty. But anyways AIRKAT, this account is not mines, so talk what you want to talk, it aint going to do nothing to nobody.
fitzuf
09-02-2006 22:40:29
[quotecc5c5e40fb="DIY_Man"] lol...maybe that was too extreme 4 yall, but anyways i was speaking on his behalf, he did do something wrong, but everybody is innocent until proven guilty. But anyways AIRKAT, this account is not mines, so talk what you want to talk, it aint going to do nothing to nobody.[/quotecc5c5e40fb]
Well, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, which this certainly isn't. In the FIG jurisdiction, I believe you are guilty until proven innocent. The DIY section is said to have an extremely high conviction rate as well.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 22:44:59
[quote748c371813="fitzuf"][quote748c371813="DIY_Man"] lol...maybe that was too extreme 4 yall, but anyways i was speaking on his behalf, he did do something wrong, but everybody is innocent until proven guilty. But anyways AIRKAT, this account is not mines, so talk what you want to talk, it aint going to do nothing to nobody.[/quote748c371813]
Well, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, which this certainly isn't. In the FIG jurisdiction, I believe you are guilty until proven innocent. The DIY section is said to have an extremely high conviction rate as well.[/quote748c371813]
But in the real world, CIP granted this person the gift, after all was said and done. So what else can you do? It's settled, no matter what you said or who you want to bring to bring this person down.
Gigante
09-02-2006 22:46:17
DIY Man, you are in the wrong, so stop complaining. CIP isn't the authorities, even though I highly doubt they will do anything.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 22:48:32
[quoteeccf127e34="Gigante"]DIY Man, you are in the wrong, so stop complaining. CIP isn't the authorities, even though I highly doubt they will do anything.[/quoteeccf127e34]
WTF?? CIP is the main company, both tjwor and this other person called CIP about the situation and it was settled by giving the gift to the other user because the other user finished the offers. So stop it with you are wrong or stop complaining, i'm just speaking the TRUTH.
fitzuf
09-02-2006 22:52:21
[quote8798eb5eb1="DIY_Man"][quote8798eb5eb1="fitzuf"][quote8798eb5eb1="DIY_Man"] lol...maybe that was too extreme 4 yall, but anyways i was speaking on his behalf, he did do something wrong, but everybody is innocent until proven guilty. But anyways AIRKAT, this account is not mines, so talk what you want to talk, it aint going to do nothing to nobody.[/quote8798eb5eb1]
Well, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, which this certainly isn't. In the FIG jurisdiction, I believe you are guilty until proven innocent. The DIY section is said to have an extremely high conviction rate as well.[/quote8798eb5eb1]
But in the real world, CIP granted this person the gift, after all was said and done. So what else can you do? It's settled, no matter what you said or who you want to bring to bring this person down.[/quote8798eb5eb1]
I think I was being sarcastic, but if you want to hold a real court session in here, that's cool with me. I can be counsel since that is what I do for a living. I suppose a high-ranking mod can be Judge, and we can appoint an attorney for the unnamed defendant.
As prosecutor, I may even seek the "ban" penalty.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 22:55:19
[quotef3928dffa3="fitzuf"][quotef3928dffa3="DIY_Man"][quotef3928dffa3="fitzuf"][quotef3928dffa3="DIY_Man"] lol...maybe that was too extreme 4 yall, but anyways i was speaking on his behalf, he did do something wrong, but everybody is innocent until proven guilty. But anyways AIRKAT, this account is not mines, so talk what you want to talk, it aint going to do nothing to nobody.[/quotef3928dffa3]
Well, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, which this certainly isn't. In the FIG jurisdiction, I believe you are guilty until proven innocent. The DIY section is said to have an extremely high conviction rate as well.[/quotef3928dffa3]
But in the real world, CIP granted this person the gift, after all was said and done. So what else can you do? It's settled, no matter what you said or who you want to bring to bring this person down.[/quotef3928dffa3]
I think I was being sarcastic, but if you want to hold a real court session in here, that's cool with me. I can be counsel since that is what I do for a living. I suppose a high-ranking mod can be Judge, and we can appoint an attorney for the unnamed defendant.
As prosecutor, I may even seek the "ban" penalty.[/quotef3928dffa3]
Matter of fact you should make a TV show....let's name it FREE STUFF COURT. lol
Gigante
09-02-2006 23:06:33
DIY_Man, stop acting like it wasn't you. Give it up. Everybody knows.
EatChex89
09-02-2006 23:08:26
I think that DIY_Man is "the friend" that is trying to stick up for himself.
Dude, DIY, what your "friend" did wasn't right, don't try to stick up for the bastard.
I think you did it the way you're goin in here.
DIY_Man
09-02-2006 23:08:29
[quotedbe3d69551="Gigante"]DIY_Man, stop acting like it wasn't you. Give it up. Everybody knows.[/quotedbe3d69551]
Okay I will stop acting...."It Wasn't me"
Good Enough.
EatChex89
09-02-2006 23:15:20
[quote6ad79f9a07="DIY_Man"][quote6ad79f9a07="Gigante"]DIY_Man, stop acting like it wasn't you. Give it up. [b6ad79f9a07]Everybody knows[/b6ad79f9a07].[/quote6ad79f9a07]
Okay I will stop acting...."It Wasn't me"
Good Enough.[/quote6ad79f9a07]
dude, my grandma even knows now... give it up
send the man his iBook.
tjwor
09-02-2006 23:20:37
[quote7a1c3f57aa="EatChex89"]dude, my grandma even knows now... give it up
send the man his iBook.[/quote7a1c3f57aa]
This is the funniest statement i have heard all day... yet you are all wrong! this isn't even the person who told me they did it...
EatChex89
09-02-2006 23:24:07
[quote8ee6b723f9="tjwor"][quote8ee6b723f9="EatChex89"]dude, my grandma even knows now... give it up
send the man his iBook.[/quote8ee6b723f9]
This is the funniest statement i have heard all day... yet you are all wrong! this isn't even the person who told me they did it...[/quote8ee6b723f9]
That's because the person made a new sn.
Happy to cause a chuckle in someone's life.
chazmann
10-02-2006 00:05:23
[i6a4536d0c8]"hello this is 911, what is your emergancy?"
"A guy online put in my email address and filled out and completed offers for a free ibookwith his credit card and is now getting it in the mail instead of me. THIS IS MY IBOOK. NOT HIS"
"yeah................." click[/i6a4536d0c8]
I totally feel for you on this one...it must feel horrible thinking that you were getting one without doing any offers yesterday, but now you find out someone else beat you to it.... ?
I honestly dont think there is any compensation to be made. It's a stall tactic for the diy caper, to ensure he gets what he signed up for.
Now, if you did all the offers initially.....and someone were to hijack your account, THEN I could see how this would be a big deal.
Maybe it's because it's super late...or that it has been a bad day in general for me.....but that's how I feel.
Best of luck to you though on getting something.
,Chaz
tjwor
10-02-2006 00:08:56
[quote014d41cf7f="chazmann"][i014d41cf7f]"hello this is 911, what is your emergancy?"
"A guy online put in my email address and filled out and completed offers for a free ibookwith his credit card and is now getting it in the mail instead of me. THIS IS MY IBOOK. NOT HIS"
"yeah................." click[/i014d41cf7f]
I totally feel for you on this one...it must feel horrible thinking that you were getting one without doing any offers yesterday, but now you find out someone else beat you to it.... ?
I honestly dont think there is any compensation to be made. It's a stall tactic for the diy caper, to ensure he gets what he signed up for.
Now, if you did all the offers initially.....and someone were to hijack your account, THEN I could see how this would be a big deal.
Maybe it's because it's super late...or that it has been a bad day in general for me.....but that's how I feel.
Best of luck to you though on getting something.
,Chaz[/quote014d41cf7f]
The deal is that he took the account so I can no longer get the gift... I would have completed the offers last night, and I would be getting an Ibook, but I can't now because he took my account, I shouldn't get anything from him since he took my account and I can no longer get this gift???
chazmann
10-02-2006 00:15:49
You can say that you were going to do it last night...but he was there first with his credit card.
It's like waiting in line for a lottery ticket and the man in front of you wins the 7.5 million dollar jackpot. You could say, "That man stole my ticket...he ran to the counter while I walked. It's rightfully mine!"
I can see why you would call it theft...but when it's something as easily accessed WITHOUT a password, it gets tricky.
I do think you should be paid the 50 dollars that you stated in your other topic. Atleast a little compensation would help ease the pain.
phoebe7
10-02-2006 05:26:25
The guy called CIP and ACTED LIKE HE WAS TJWOR, that's gotta count for something. I think this guy is a jackass, and he'll get what's coming to him. I hope his ibook is refurbished and dies in like 3 months.
Gigante
10-02-2006 06:49:50
And we are still protecting the guy that did it why?....
kingt36
10-02-2006 07:04:48
[quotec988a3bdb0="Gigante"]And we are still protecting the guy that did it why?....[/quotec988a3bdb0]
That's the same question I have. Where is this guy at? Somebody should take drastic action against him. I saw reenact the curb scene from American History X on him. shock
Gigante
10-02-2006 07:05:57
There is no difference in stealing a passworded account and a non-passworded account.
And DIY_Man, you are insulting our intelligence by you even trying to lie to us about it.
Airkat
10-02-2006 07:21:37
tjwor, stop protecting him. It's DIY_man. If he were going to compensate you by now he would've. Now he just needs an IP ban so he can't get any of our knowledge here.
tjwor
10-02-2006 07:23:40
[quotef26213be0b="Airkat"]tjwor, stop protecting him. It's DIY_man. If he were going to compensate you by now he would've. Now he just needs an IP ban so he can't get any of our knowledge here.[/quotef26213be0b]
The person who it was is waiting for it to arrive before he does anything, it is supposed dto get there today, so by tomorrow we'll see if I have got anything from it...
Brutus
10-02-2006 08:26:28
[quote3224a59d21="chazmann"][i3224a59d21]"hello this is 911, what is your emergancy?"
"A guy online put in my email address and filled out and completed offers for a free ibookwith his credit card and is now getting it in the mail instead of me. THIS IS MY IBOOK. NOT HIS"
"yeah................." click[/i3224a59d21][/quote3224a59d21]
I know you were using the instance of calling 911 to emphasize your point, but it doesn't fairly illistrate how to go about this.
You file a police report, and get a number. The person did pretend to be you, by saying it was his email address, and then while still claiming to be you said he was sending it to his 'cousin'.
chazmann
10-02-2006 09:55:01
Just to warn you guys....you'll probably never hear from DIY_MAN after he gets his ibook ?
DIY_Man
10-02-2006 10:09:26
[quote9c27e71f42="chazmann"]Just to warn you guys....you'll probably never hear from DIY_MAN after he gets his ibook ?[/quote9c27e71f42]
OMG I got my IBOOK Today!!!!! LOL it's not me you fools, ask tjwor. It's a guy from scam.com. LOL you guys are funny and falsely accusing me..haha.
theysayjump
10-02-2006 10:19:50
I think publicly coming out with who it is would only be a bad thing for tjwor. The person who did it is more likely to not give him anything if his name is made public.
chazmann
10-02-2006 10:28:36
I thought about it again....and realized that this is totally fucked up.
Even if you werent going to do the offers at that instant...it would've been there for you to complete for AWHILE.
I definately agree that you should be given some compensation....if not that, take the L train to jersey and help him [if2802f5b7c]install[/if2802f5b7c] some new software on his mac.
software=fist
mac=face
ffactoryxx
10-02-2006 10:29:49
why didnt he just sign up himself and complete his own offers. Im split down the middle right now.
ajrock2000
10-02-2006 10:31:45
DIY_Man if it is not you, than why do you defend whoever this is to the death? Makes noo sense.
DIY_Man
10-02-2006 10:49:02
[quote978cf4e504="chazmann"]I thought about it again....and realized that this is totally fucked up.
Even if you werent going to do the offers at that instant...it would've been there for you to complete for AWHILE.
I definately agree that you should be given some compensation....if not that, take the L train to jersey and help him [i978cf4e504]install[/i978cf4e504] some new software on his mac.
software=fist
mac=face[/quote978cf4e504]
Violence will result to nothing, plus you want to take the PATH train lol, get your shlit right. Anyways I am speaking for this guy, because it will be bad for this guy to come post on here and all of you will bash him out, they are going to get everything settled, find your own problems.
Brutus
10-02-2006 10:51:06
[quotefc85dca351="ffactoryxx"]why didnt he just sign up himself and complete his own offers. Im split down the middle right now.[/quotefc85dca351]
The offers are more now. He stole an account that he only had to do 6 vice 15 (Or however many offers are needed now) to get the iBook.
Brutus
10-02-2006 10:53:33
I am speaking for this guy, because it will be bad for this guy to come post on here and all of you will bash him out, they are going to get everything settled, find your own problems.
The OP asked for some opinions, so people are giving them. No need to 'find our own problems'.
ffactoryxx
10-02-2006 11:17:34
OHHH. I didnt know that.
I thought it was the 15 offer account.
EatChex89
10-02-2006 11:18:51
[quote817538caed="Brutus"][quote817538caed="DIY_Man"]I am speaking for this guy, because it will be bad for this guy to come post on here and all of you will bash him out, they are going to get everything settled, find your own problems.[/quote817538caed]
The OP asked for some opinions, so people are giving them. No need to 'find our own problems'.[/quote817538caed]
iawtc
VrExe
10-02-2006 13:10:42
[quote17d03d7bb7="tjwor"]
The deal is that he took the account so I can no longer get the gift... I would have completed the offers last night, and I would be getting an Ibook, but I can't now because he took my account, I shouldn't get anything from him since he took my account and I can no longer get this gift???[/quote17d03d7bb7]
Well on the bright side, you "still can" get the gift. Their terms states they allow only one gift per "house hold" meaning you will still be able to receive any gift from them since no items were "shipped" to your house.
nextlevel
10-02-2006 13:13:53
[quotefa59dfb889="VrExe"][quotefa59dfb889="tjwor"]
The deal is that he took the account so I can no longer get the gift... I would have completed the offers last night, and I would be getting an Ibook, but I can't now because he took my account, I shouldn't get anything from him since he took my account and I can no longer get this gift???[/quotefa59dfb889]
Well on the bright side, you "still can" get the gift. Their terms states they allow only one gift per "house hold" meaning you will still be able to receive any gift from them since no items were "shipped" to your house.[/quotefa59dfb889]
Not for 6 offers.
EatChex89
10-02-2006 13:33:16
Is it really true that you can't get more than one gift per NuiTech branch site? Like if I got the iBook from IRC, i couldn't get anything else from IRC?
ilanbg
10-02-2006 14:01:18
Stay on topic....
Anyway, I don't know why we're debating with DIY_Man. Every thinks, more or less, that equal compensation for the iBook and/or legal pursuit ought to be taken.
idrinklisterine
10-02-2006 15:18:12
I know what you can do. Have him do 9 offers for you so that you can still get the iBook for 6 offers P
chazmann
10-02-2006 15:33:15
Or you can take a look again to see where it's being shipped, drop by and take him out to denny's.
All the while, right before your grandslam is at the table...BOOM. You have your ibook.
theysayjump
10-02-2006 16:13:17
Yeah I'd say at least make him pay for 9 of your 15 offers, or give you enough money to pay for 9 of the offers, then (like it was said above) you're still getting it for 6 offers.
kevxross
10-02-2006 16:38:49
[quote17a22d60e0="idrinklisterine"]I know what you can do. Have him do 9 offers for you so that you can still get the iBook for 6 offers P[/quote17a22d60e0]
That's actually the best suggestion I've seen yet...
nextlevel
10-02-2006 16:44:47
Go on court tv...
Like judge judy, judge joe brown, judge mathis, people's court, or one of the other 100+..
You could both benefit by going on tv, I think they pay just for appearing, plus settle the problem with a decision..
I would watch. I saw some ebay ones before.
tjwor
10-02-2006 17:48:09
[quotecd93b6d0ca="nextlevel"]Go on court tv...
Like judge judy, judge joe brown, judge mathis, people's court, or one of the other 100+..
You could both benefit by going on tv, I think they pay just for appearing, plus settle the problem with a decision..
I would watch. I saw some ebay ones before.[/quotecd93b6d0ca]
Hmmmmmm.... wink
DIY_Man
10-02-2006 21:09:17
This is SOLVED....According to CIP they asked UPS to ship back the gift to there headquarters. The other user is not getting the gift, so it's settled now. I don't think tjwor won't get the ibook either because he didn't do the offers and admitted to this to the CIP rep. So hopefully the other person can give some $$$$ to tjwor for the mistake.
tylerc
10-02-2006 21:10:06
By other person, you mean yourself?
DIY_Man
10-02-2006 21:11:14
[quote40038b42f8="tylerc"]By other person, you mean yourself?[/quote40038b42f8]
No stupid.
tylerc
10-02-2006 21:17:17
[quotee4c22c49e7="DIY_Man"][quotee4c22c49e7="tylerc"]By other person, you mean yourself?[/quotee4c22c49e7]
No stupid.[/quotee4c22c49e7]
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idrinklisterine
10-02-2006 21:24:36
[quote3e521e272c="DIY_Man"]This is SOLVED....According to CIP they asked UPS to ship back the gift to there headquarters. The other user is not getting the gift, so it's settled now. I don't think tjwor won't get the ibook either because he didn't do the offers and admitted to this to the CIP rep. So hopefully the other person can give some $$$$ to tjwor for the mistake.[/quote3e521e272c]
I don't see how it was solved, tjwor still can't get an iBook for 6 offers because of this other person.
chazmann
10-02-2006 22:05:40
And until twor confirms that he did infact talk to CIP about this...and CIP did tell him the ibook was sent back to them....Im not going to believe you that easily.
tjwor
10-02-2006 23:54:30
02/10/2006 854 P.M. THE RECEIVER DID NOT WANT THE ORDER AND REFUSED THIS DELIVERY;PACKAGE RETURNED TO SENDER
UPS shipping...
chazmann
11-02-2006 00:03:00
Well bud...looks like the ball is in your court right now. Either you can talk it up with cip and see if you can do 6 for your ibook...or work something out with diyman,
Brutus
11-02-2006 00:12:55
The guy is still a tool, but you know what? he is only half a tool in my book, not that it matters. He told what he had done and refused shipment. I've seen worse people.
Edit After thinking about, the guy is still a jerk. He should have sent you the iBook after he got it and just asked you to pay for the offers.
Airkat
11-02-2006 06:47:31
[quote06fb119a00="DIY_Man"][quote06fb119a00="tylerc"]By other person, you mean yourself?[/quote06fb119a00]
No stupid.[/quote06fb119a00]
dude. It's you. Just stop.
Narakukuku
11-02-2006 09:38:01
I'm sorry tjwor. I would have to agree that this guy, who may or may not be DIY_man roll , is an arse. I would try to get permission from CIP to complete 6 offers and receive the already purchased Ibook in the impostors place.
tylerc
11-02-2006 10:34:52
[quote57199ce8d7="Airkat"][quote57199ce8d7="DIY_Man"][quote57199ce8d7="tylerc"]By other person, you mean yourself?[/quote57199ce8d7]
No stupid.[/quote57199ce8d7]
dude. It's you. Just stop.[/quote57199ce8d7]
Yes, it is, and everyone knows it, so just admit it.
tjwor
11-02-2006 14:12:10
[quoteb24c7dc6e2="Brutus"]The guy is still a tool, but you know what? he is only half a tool in my book, not that it matters. He told what he had done and refused shipment. I've seen worse people.
Edit After thinking about, the guy is still a jerk. He should have sent you the iBook after he got it and just asked you to pay for the offers.[/quoteb24c7dc6e2]
He didn't refuse the ibook, CIP called and told them not to deliver... they accidentally did that with mine first and then changed it... it wasn't his call to change it, he was getting it...
Brutus
11-02-2006 18:02:32
[quote84e8973224="tjwor"][quote84e8973224="Brutus"]The guy is still a tool, but you know what? he is only half a tool in my book, not that it matters. He told what he had done and refused shipment. I've seen worse people.
Edit After thinking about, the guy is still a jerk. He should have sent you the iBook after he got it and just asked you to pay for the offers.[/quote84e8973224]
He didn't refuse the ibook, CIP called and told them not to deliver... they accidentally did that with mine first and then changed it... it wasn't his call to change it, he was getting it...[/quote84e8973224]
My bad, mis-read it. Are you getting the iBook then, or nobody?
tjwor
12-02-2006 00:10:20
[quotea809a12805="Brutus"][quotea809a12805="tjwor"][quotea809a12805="Brutus"]The guy is still a tool, but you know what? he is only half a tool in my book, not that it matters. He told what he had done and refused shipment. I've seen worse people.
Edit After thinking about, the guy is still a jerk. He should have sent you the iBook after he got it and just asked you to pay for the offers.[/quotea809a12805]
He didn't refuse the ibook, CIP called and told them not to deliver... they accidentally did that with mine first and then changed it... it wasn't his call to change it, he was getting it...[/quotea809a12805]
My bad, mis-read it. Are you getting the iBook then, or nobody?[/quotea809a12805]
Looks like nobody...
LucaBella
12-02-2006 07:21:18
but does that suck arse.
I'd still find Rodney and send him some drugs in an unmarked box and alert the feds....
I mean seriously, he could have stolen a fake account which has like every promo known to man.. why find a REAL person and rip them off?
Lower than low
chazmann
12-02-2006 12:53:01
[quote509cb4ec4c="tjwor"] Looks like nobody...[/quote509cb4ec4c]
After reading your post on scam.com...
I forgot to post that I got my ibook on thursday
[i509cb4ec4c]As soon as i got it, i took a few pics, and sold it for $900 no ebay fee's, no shipping cost, no paypal fee's, just good cash thats in my bank account.[/i509cb4ec4c]
Glad to hear you came out on top.
tjwor
12-02-2006 14:50:48
[quote274fb14d35="chazmann"][quote274fb14d35="tjwor"] Looks like nobody...[/quote274fb14d35]
After reading your post on scam.com...
I forgot to post that I got my ibook on thursday
[i274fb14d35]As soon as i got it, i took a few pics, and sold it for $900 no ebay fee's, no shipping cost, no paypal fee's, just good cash thats in my bank account.[/i274fb14d35]
Glad to hear you came out on top.[/quote274fb14d35]
That was my Ibook from IRC that I completed.... not from CIP which he completed under my 6 account... So i'm still on bottom of this matter for now...
LucaBella
13-02-2006 15:48:57
[quote7264e83d20="tylerc"][quote7264e83d20="Airkat"][quote7264e83d20="DIY_Man"][quote7264e83d20="tylerc"]By other person, you mean yourself?[/quote7264e83d20]
No stupid.[/quote7264e83d20]
dude. It's you. Just stop.[/quote7264e83d20]
Yes, it is, and everyone knows it, so just admit it.[/quote7264e83d20]
yeah, TJwor admitted it on scam.com. why they both felt like lying, I don't know.
but it was dumb. I'm glad neither one has the damn ibook.
shortys408
13-02-2006 16:07:00
CIP had an ibook site?
tjwor
13-02-2006 16:24:31
[quote7eea7630f0="LucaBella"][quote7eea7630f0="tylerc"][quote7eea7630f0="Airkat"][quote7eea7630f0="DIY_Man"][quote7eea7630f0="tylerc"]By other person, you mean yourself?[/quote7eea7630f0]
No stupid.[/quote7eea7630f0]
dude. It's you. Just stop.[/quote7eea7630f0]
Yes, it is, and everyone knows it, so just admit it.[/quote7eea7630f0]
yeah, TJwor admitted it on scam.com. why they both felt like lying, I don't know.
but it was dumb. I'm glad neither one has the damn ibook.[/quote7eea7630f0]
What the fuck LucaBella, Me and the Mods of FIG decided it'd be better to keep him seceret until he gave me compensation for what he owed me, that is why I kept it a seceret... i doubt i'll end up getting anything now, he had offered $100 best buy gift cards, which isn't much but better than nothing... thanks
Gigante
13-02-2006 16:59:11
Putting someone on blast really isn't appropriate tjwor, everybody already knows.
EatChex89
13-02-2006 17:26:21
we already knew it was DIY_Man... he was defending "his friend" too adamantly
hairyferry
13-02-2006 21:00:48
gotta love the drama
EatChex89
13-02-2006 22:07:54
[quote3fdb02e59f="hairyferry"]gotta love the drama[/quote3fdb02e59f]
i get a kick out of it.
i especially love DIY_Man, he contributed to my laughs.
phoebe7
13-02-2006 22:20:51
Big deal we know it's officially DIY_Man!!!!! Not like we know him personally. And if that's his excuse for not giving you any compensation then that it is not Luca's problem!!!! I don't see why us knowing would change anything. That would be a very shady move on his part.
Airkat
14-02-2006 03:51:21
shadier than stealing an account?
LucaBella
14-02-2006 07:05:15
I just didn't like being lied to, for any reason.
if you say you decided to keep it a secret, you didn't have to lie to the very people you're asking for "advice" from. No one needed to defend or lie for DIY.
tjwor
14-02-2006 07:23:23
[quotedbec17e714="LucaBella"]I just didn't like being lied to, for any reason.
if you say you decided to keep it a secret, you didn't have to lie to the very people you're asking for "advice" from. No one needed to defend or lie for DIY.[/quotedbec17e714]
I am very sorry to anyone who is mad that I lied, I'm sorry but I did it because the mods and i decided to keep him hidden for a while... Please don't be mad at me because of this...
Narakukuku
14-02-2006 09:14:57
We knew it was DIY_Man. How his identity being revealed on a internet forum relates to the obvious compensation he owes you I have no idea.
If he didn;t want people to know he should have stayed out of this thread. You should still try to work something out.
phoebe7
14-02-2006 10:00:04
[quote3f9c5854e6="Narakukuku"]How his identity being revealed on a internet forum relates to the obvious compensation he owes you I have no idea.
[/quote3f9c5854e6]
I agree with this, and this is a point I was trying to make in my prior post.
tjwor
14-02-2006 10:11:34
[quotef7eb26b2db="phoebe7"][quotef7eb26b2db="Narakukuku"]How his identity being revealed on a internet forum relates to the obvious compensation he owes you I have no idea.
[/quotef7eb26b2db]
I agree with this, and this is a point I was trying to make in my prior post.[/quotef7eb26b2db]
Because if he thinks i'm his friend he is much more likley to give me something than if he knows i'm going to tell everyone...
Oh well, i'm not too worried, i doubt i'll get anything from him, but lets move on with our freebies...
LucaBella
14-02-2006 10:32:51
Dude, I can understand what you were trying to do, but you need to look at the big picture. He is a lying thief who commited identity theft. It wasn't worth your time to try and work out a deal with him, you were being too nice.
he'd have a footprint in his ass that matched my boot by now....
tjwor
14-02-2006 12:28:10
[quotecdeb706d4d="LucaBella"]Dude, I can understand what you were trying to do, but you need to look at the big picture. He is a lying thief who commited identity theft. It wasn't worth your time to try and work out a deal with him, you were being too nice.
he'd have a footprint in his ass that matched my boot by now....[/quotecdeb706d4d]
Well, there is really nothing i can do, i only know a first name and a town he is from, so i was trying my hardest to get at least what he said he would give me...
theysayjump
14-02-2006 13:11:45
I'd tell you the reason tjwor didn't want anything said about it, but then he really won't get anything. Until I know for sure if tjwor is getting something or not, then I won't give my reasoning.
I told him not to say anything because I believe(d) that if it was made public, then there would be absolutely no chance of him getting shit.
If anyone wants to pissed at someone then be pissed at me for telling tjwor to keep it shut, but don't be pissed at him or have a go at him.
EatChex89
14-02-2006 13:25:58
[quote21a5c5b933="theysayjump"]I'd tell you the reason tjwor didn't want anything said about it, but then he really won't get anything. Until I know for sure if tjwor is getting something or not, then I won't give my reasoning.
I told him not to say anything because I believe(d) that if it was made public, then there would be absolutely no chance of him getting shit.
If anyone wants to pissed at someone then be pissed at me for telling tjwor to keep it shut, but don't be pissed at him or have a go at him.[/quote21a5c5b933]
well if DIY_man never came over here defending himself, we wouldn'tve known who he was... am i correct? it's really his fault, he gave himself away.
theysayjump
14-02-2006 14:24:31
[quote02009a563d="EatChex89"][quote02009a563d="theysayjump"]I'd tell you the reason tjwor didn't want anything said about it, but then he really won't get anything. Until I know for sure if tjwor is getting something or not, then I won't give my reasoning.
I told him not to say anything because I believe(d) that if it was made public, then there would be absolutely no chance of him getting shit.
If anyone wants to pissed at someone then be pissed at me for telling tjwor to keep it shut, but don't be pissed at him or have a go at him.[/quote02009a563d]
well if DIY_man never came over here defending himself, we wouldn'tve known who he was... am i correct? it's really his fault, he gave himself away.[/quote02009a563d]
No. tjwor and I had agreed that the truth would be told, after he had received some kind of compensation.
phoebe7
14-02-2006 14:59:30
I don't see how knowing someone's screenname would change anything. I don't know his real first name, his real last name, his street address or what he looks like... So I don't get that since a forum knows his screenname he wouldn't give tjwor anything. Am I missing something??????
ilanbg
14-02-2006 15:08:38
There are ways to get information on people. Hire a cyber-detective to track this guy down, or do the work yourself.
I've done it before and I [i20a88ce924]have[/i20a88ce924] gotten [positive] results.
Airkat
14-02-2006 15:21:45
[quote9de3e470b3="phoebe7"]I don't see how knowing someone's screenname would change anything. I don't know his real first name, his real last name, his street address or what he looks like... So I don't get that since a forum knows his screenname he wouldn't give tjwor anything. Am I missing something??????[/quote9de3e470b3]
yes, it seems like common sense... or an imagination.
Imagine this (and this is fictional) The guy confesses to tjwor and says he didnt think he was gonna use it -- he's sorry -- blah blah.
The guy asks can you bury the hatchet and I'll compensate you. Let's keep it clean so my name doesnt get dragged through the mud because I'm sincerely sorry.
As Tjwor, obviously if you make it publicly known who this guy was, got him flamed and banned, you've just lost all bargaining chips haven't you?
phoebe7
14-02-2006 15:28:44
[quote8d3f9e554f="Airkat"][quote8d3f9e554f="phoebe7"]I don't see how knowing someone's screenname would change anything. I don't know his real first name, his real last name, his street address or what he looks like... So I don't get that since a forum knows his screenname he wouldn't give tjwor anything. Am I missing something??????[/quote8d3f9e554f]
yes, it seems like common sense... or an imagination.
Imagine this (and this is fictional) The guy confesses to tjwor and says he didnt think he was gonna use it -- he's sorry -- blah blah.
The guy asks can you bury the hatchet and I'll compensate you. Let's keep it clean so my name doesnt get dragged through the mud because I'm sincerely sorry.
As Tjwor, obviously if you make it publicly known who this guy was, got him flamed and banned, you've just lost all bargaining chips haven't you?[/quote8d3f9e554f]
Okay. roll
I agree w/ EatChex then, DIY_Man should of never posted here and brought suspicion on himself.
And tjwor should of never made a topic about it if he didn't want advice and already knew he wanted to keep the guy secret in the first place. But whatever, the guy didn't get the ibook so I'm done w/ this topic.
theysayjump
14-02-2006 15:59:20
[quote56c0d8cde8="Airkat"][quote56c0d8cde8="phoebe7"]I don't see how knowing someone's screenname would change anything. I don't know his real first name, his real last name, his street address or what he looks like... So I don't get that since a forum knows his screenname he wouldn't give tjwor anything. Am I missing something??????[/quote56c0d8cde8]
yes, it seems like common sense... or an imagination.
Imagine this (and this is fictional) The guy confesses to tjwor and says he didnt think he was gonna use it -- he's sorry -- blah blah.
The guy asks can you bury the hatchet and I'll compensate you. Let's keep it clean so my name doesnt get dragged through the mud because I'm sincerely sorry.
As Tjwor, obviously if you make it publicly known who this guy was, got him flamed and banned, you've just lost all bargaining chips haven't you?[/quote56c0d8cde8]
I can't believe that there is someone who actually thought about it for a second.
See kiddies? Use your brain and you could be JUST like Airkat.
LucaBella
14-02-2006 19:31:30
I guess I'm way too cynical.
If someone were caught stealing anything from me, i wouldn't trust them to come back and make anything right...
In the end, Sorry Tjwor.