The Big Ten > everyone else

that is all.

State KICKED ASS TONIGHT!! not even a shady three will save you UK...

armstrong, where in detroit are you from? i'm in ferndale

Big East > Big Ten

Syracuse dominates NCAA basketball....maybe next year we won't get T'd up in the closing minutes of a tournament game.

licoughli terrible officiating licoughli

[quoteb182c8e714="FreeOffersNow"]Big East > Big Ten

Syracuse dominates NCAA basketball....maybe next year we won't get T'd up in the closing minutes of a tournament game.

licoughli terrible officiating licoughli[/quoteb182c8e714]

vermont > cuse lol

it doesnt really matter anyways, MSU would have taken care of 'cuse in the 2nd round anyways, vermont just got to them first

[quote3641863804="iusa"]it doesnt really matter anyways, MSU would have taken care of 'cuse in the 2nd round anyways, vermont just got to them first[/quote3641863804]

Negative. There's not a team in the country that can stop SU when they are playing well. Our problem this season was primarily beyond the arc...G-Mac was our only legitimate shooter and he was battling an injury all season. Who can stop Hakeem? No one...too bad he's NBA bound now.

i got one...


Pro teams > (college X 1000000)

I got a better one....

[Basketball to watch]
College > Pro teams (x 1000000000000^1000000)

I enjoy college basketball much, much more than pro.

[quoteb144630860="holycow"]I enjoy college basketball much, much more than pro.[/quoteb144630860]


Most people do. It's a much more intense game, competition is fierce, and the underdog always has a shot.

Poor WVirginia. Only reason I like them know is cause their tight end, lives in my town. Football, of course.

http//www.msnsportsnet.com/profile.cfm?id=100113&sport=football

[quotefd65b0d479="wood"]i got one...


Pro teams > (college X 1000000)[/quotefd65b0d479]


if youre talking about in terms of watching, then no, you are horribly wrong

[quote95e6dc5ac9="FreeOffersNow"][quote95e6dc5ac9="iusa"]it doesnt really matter anyways, MSU would have taken care of 'cuse in the 2nd round anyways, vermont just got to them first[/quote95e6dc5ac9]

Negative. There's not a team in the country that can stop SU when they are playing well. Our problem this season was primarily beyond the arc...G-Mac was our only legitimate shooter and he was battling an injury all season. Who can stop Hakeem? No one...too bad he's NBA bound now.[/quote95e6dc5ac9]

apparently Vermont can, and pretty much anyone else...you can say "oh we didnt show up"...well if your team was that good, then you would have showed up...there are many flaws in your statement as well...our problem was from beyond the arc, who can stop Hakeem....one person does not make a team...one person does not constitute an unstopable team...they way that state played agains vermont/SU would not have stood a chance


...as far as MSU...

go right through for m..s..u
watch the points keep growing
spartan teams are bound to win
they're fighting with a vin
RAH RAH RAH
see their team is weakening
we're gonna win this game
FIGHT FIGHT RAH TEMA FIGHT
victory for M S U

as a proud alum from Farmington...that was there for the 2000 championship year...its sweet that we finally beat Duke

This tournament was a real bummer. Florida was supposed to take it all, but Villanova just had to make the upset.

[quotef3ecc367b9="dug1200"][quotef3ecc367b9="FreeOffersNow"][quotef3ecc367b9="iusa"]it doesnt really matter anyways, MSU would have taken care of 'cuse in the 2nd round anyways, vermont just got to them first[/quotef3ecc367b9]

Negative. There's not a team in the country that can stop SU when they are playing well. Our problem this season was primarily beyond the arc...G-Mac was our only legitimate shooter and he was battling an injury all season. Who can stop Hakeem? No one...too bad he's NBA bound now.[/quotef3ecc367b9]

apparently Vermont can, and pretty much anyone else...you can say "oh we didnt show up"...well if your team was that good, then you would have showed up...there are many flaws in your statement as well...our problem was from beyond the arc, who can stop Hakeem....one person does not make a team...one person does not constitute an unstopable team...they way that state played agains vermont/SU would not have stood a chance[/quotef3ecc367b9]


I'm hoping that you were drunk (or otherwise inebriated) when making this post. For the sake of brevity, I won't make any historical citations in my destruction of your claims.

[quotef3ecc367b9="dug1200"]well if your team was that good, then you would have showed up...[/quotef3ecc367b9]

Interesting. I suppose the never-ending hack-fest on Hakeem had no impact on the outcome of this game. Nor did the outrageous technical foul call for...uhh...."hanging on the rim" (which following the game was noted as having been made due to his "tapping the backboard"). And yet, the game was won in overtime, after an array of ridiculous (and uncharacteristic) three-pointers...one of which was hailed up from near half court.

[quotef3ecc367b9="dug1200"]one person does not make a team...one person does not constitute an unstopable team[/quotef3ecc367b9]

I guess there is no such thing as an MVP. "There's not a team in the country that can stop SU when [bf3ecc367b9][if3ecc367b9]they[/if3ecc367b9][/bf3ecc367b9] are playing well." The use of the term they here would imply that I was referring to the entire team, not just Hakeem.

[quotef3ecc367b9="dug1200"]they way that state played agains vermont/SU would not have stood a chance[/quotef3ecc367b9]

Did you say something?

there is nothing uncharacteristic about makeing wide open 3s...i mean if your team would have put a hand in the shooters face, then they may not have fallen...if a team makes it to the dance, anything can happen...its who wants it more...the same could be said for my spartans...until the beat Duke...all i heard was...oh they were lucky...they had an easy trip to the final 4...beating the number 1 and 2 seeded team in a weekend is not an easy task....

as far as your comment about the big east better than the big ten...how many teams from the big east are left or made it to the final 4?....


did you say something?

Big XII > you in football

BOOMER SOONER

Illini > everyone else...

Thursdays game proves it!

[quotedace611127="dug1200"]there is nothing uncharacteristic about makeing wide open 3s...[/quotedace611127]

Speaking of uncharacteristic....Mopa Njila finished with a career-high 20 points...thats 14.2 points more than his season average. Oh...on 9 of 10 shooting.


[quotedace611127="dug1200"]i mean if your team would have put a hand in the shooters face, then they may not have fallen...[/quotedace611127]

Because its textbook defense to man up on a shooter standing 25 feet out...


[quotedace611127="dug1200"]as far as your comment about the big east better than the big ten...how many teams from the big east are left or made it to the final 4?....[/quotedace611127]

How many NCAA Championship teams has the Big Ten produced in the past 5 years? Since I'm sure you don't know...I'll make a list for you.

[listdace611127]2004 - UCONN (Big East)
2003 - Syracuse (Big East)
2003 - Maryland (ACC)
2002 - Duke (ACC)
2001 - Michigan State (Big 10)[/listudace611127]

Look around the room, find a window. Make sure its closed...and jump out of it.

when a player is dropping everything from anywhere...i would have put a body on them....by the was it was 2000 that state won the championship not 2001

2000...msu, fla, nc and wisc...2 big10, 1 sec 1 acc
2001...msu, duke, ariz, mary...2 acc, 1 big 10, 1 pac 10
2002...mary, indy, okla, kansas...1 big 10, 2 big 12, 1 acc
2003...SU, kansas, marq, texas...1big east, 2 big 12, 1 conf usa
2004...conn, GT, okla st, duke...1 big east, 2 acc, 1 big 12
2005...msu, ill, nc, loui..2 big 10, 1 acc, 1 conf usa

so in the past 5 years.... 6big 10, 7acc, 1sec, 1pac10, 5big12, 2 conf usa, and a whoping 2 big east

[quote3ba1542569="dug1200"]when a player is dropping everything from anywhere...i would have put a body on them....by the was it was 2000 that state won the championship not 2001

2000...msu, fla, nc and wisc...2 big10, 1 sec 1 acc
2001...msu, duke, ariz, mary...2 acc, 1 big 10, 1 pac 10
2002...mary, indy, okla, kansas...1 big 10, 2 big 12, 1 acc
2003...SU, kansas, marq, texas...1big east, 2 big 12, 1 conf usa
2004...conn, GT, okla st, duke...1 big east, 2 acc, 1 big 12
2005...msu, ill, nc, loui..2 big 10, 1 acc, 1 conf usa

so in the past 5 years.... 6big 10, 7acc, 1sec, 1pac10, 5big12, 2 conf usa, and a whoping 2 big east[/quote3ba1542569]


Did I ask about the final 4...or did I ask about championship teams? Meaning...teams that won the championship. Also, the "2001 - Michigan State" was clearly a typo...unless of course you thought there were two Champions in 2003.

[quote48abab949f="bayvet"]Big XII > you in football

BOOMER SOONER[/quote48abab949f]


i love it when people resort to this when their favorite team loses or doesnt make the tourney

and "boomer sooner" has got to be one of the stupidest things ive ever heard

just showing you that your Big East has not been been there with numbers for the final 4 compared to the Big 10 in the past 6 years, this year included....and your comment
"Syracuse dominates NCAA basketball....maybe next year"

kinnda hard to dominate from back home....maybe next year is the brightest thing that youve said

[quote7c3574be5f="dug1200"]just showing you that your Big East has not been been there with numbers for the final 4 compared to the Big 10 in the past 6 years, this year included....and your comment
"Syracuse dominates NCAA basketball....maybe next year"

kinnda hard to dominate from back home....maybe next year is the brightest thing that youve said[/quote7c3574be5f]

No...by listing the teams that LOST to Big East teams does nothing but further support my theory that you like to touch small boys. Also, good job taking my statement out of context...you should be a journalist.


"Syracuse dominates NCAA basketaball" was clearly a statement of fandom, not of fact.


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you are now scraping the bottom...desperate words for a desperate child...2 teams winning the championship does not mean dominance by a conference...as much as i hate to say it, but the ACC is by far the strongest conference...and the Big 10 is better than the Big East

what a waste of a thread... ;)

[quote762bed52be="dug1200"]you are now scraping the bottom...desperate words for a desperate child...2 teams winning the championship does not mean dominance by a conference...as much as i hate to say it, but the ACC is by far the strongest conference...and the Big 10 is better than the Big East[/quote762bed52be]

Scraping the bottom? Desperate words for a desperate child? Have you got that alright? Again, you're taking my statements out of context. However, at this point I'm unsure if you are doing this purposely or simply because you don't have the sagacity to do otherwise. I never said the Big East dominates the NCAA, I said the "Big East > Big Ten" - at statement for which I provided statistical evidence to support. All you've done is posted irrelevant jargon in hopes of somehow throwing together a coherent argument.


[b762bed52be]Invalid Arguments[/b762bed52be]
[list762bed52be]
1. Argument ad hominem attacking the man. This is an attempt to discredit an idea by attacking the person who suggested it and not the idea itself.[/listu762bed52be]

Just because the Big 10 has two (2) good teams, does not a great Conference make.

Let's look at the rest of the Conference, shall we?

Penn State (7-23)
Purdue (7-21)
Michigan (13-18)
Northwestern (15-16)
Indiana (15-14)

So half of the Conference is less than, or as much as 1 game over .500? Yep, great Conference.

well my "irrelevant jargon" as you call it is a list of statistical evidence showing the constant presence of the Big 10 in the final four. Just by having a team win the championship does not mean that the conference as a whole is better than another....if the Big East was better than the Big 10, how come there are no more Big East teams left in the Tourney?

and i do believe that it was you who was attacking me by theorizing that i touch little boys....

so enjoy the finals this weekend and root for your Big East representation...oh im sorry i forgot...there is no Big East representation...since the Big East is better than the Big 10, the Big East did not want to step down a level and play for it all....

the next thing that you are going to try and tell me is that the big east sent 6 and the big 10 only sent 5...well, your defending champs were knocked out in the 2nd round...at least when MSU won they made it back to the final 4 the next year, BC -2nd round loss, WV and Nova made it to the second weekend at least...and oh yea cuse lost in the 1st round...imagine that...

sure 2 big 10 teams were knocked out in the 1st round...but we sent 3 to the elite 8 and 2 to the final 4...and may possible have an all big 10 final since there is no powerful big east team to knock them out

[quotec637c18f8c="dug1200"]well my "irrelevant jargon" as you call it is a list of statistical evidence showing the constant presence of the Big 10 in the final four. Just by having a team win the championship does not mean that the conference as a whole is better than another....[/quotec637c18f8c]

So what you're saying is...making it to the championship means more than winning it? Tell that to the Buffalo Bills. Further, you didn't list teams that made it to the finals, you listed teams that made it to the final four. Perhaps this is because the only Big 10 team that advanced to the finals in those years (other than Michigan state, obviously) was Indiana. In conclusion, nothing you say will change the fact that in my opinion, the Big East remains a stronger conference than the Big 10.

Let me try this again...

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[quotecf46c4d7ec="ougijoe"]Just because the Big 10 has two (2) good teams, does not a great Conference make.

Let's look at the rest of the Conference, shall we?

Penn State (7-23)
Purdue (7-21)
Michigan (13-18)
Northwestern (15-16)
Indiana (15-14)

So half of the Conference is less than, or as much as 1 game over .500? Yep, great Conference.[/quotecf46c4d7ec]


let me clarify...in the tourney this year...

THE BIG TEN >>>>>>>> everyone else.

Now that, I'll agree to ;)

The ACC and Big East were a joke this year.