MODS -JUST WONDERING - WHERE HAVE ALL THE NEW TRADERS GONE?

sandra habina

24-07-2008 21:34:23

[bc850c0f612]I know it is summer time and vacations and all but wow only a handful of new people are joining this great forum each day.

Is there some kind of advertising profile or program that FIPG can join to get noticed by new traders???[/colorc850c0f612]

I know Project Payday got me here - but I believe that is no longer available for us here. Is there some other program out there?

Just wondering - if anyone had any information.

Thank you [/bc850c0f612] ?

tylerc

24-07-2008 21:55:00

O SANDY

ajasax

24-07-2008 22:26:40

I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF WE DON'T GET NEW TRADERS SOON, I WON'T BE ABLE TO PAY MY CAR LOAN.

d11m

24-07-2008 23:49:46

Dang your TR is off the heezy

sandra habina

25-07-2008 01:16:19

[quotea32d9c0247="tylerc"]O SANDY[/quotea32d9c0247]

What ????

I would like to know if there is something that the members can do to help FIPG - which would help all of us as well. I do not know what costs or items are needed to run a forum of this size, but maybe there is a way to advertise it more.

Yes I have high TR - trust me I know, I worked long and hard to get here but in the past few months - I have not gained many and I am still trying. I was looking for any informative threads, but I must have missed it. I am serious, as are many of my trading friends. We just want to know what is going on, and if there is something that we can do.

Thanks wink

mookieb2

25-07-2008 06:33:15

I think Project Payday either has an agreement or actually owns part of freelunchroom, so they are directing everyone there now.

It's a little bit like the wild west over there in that the scammers are running rampant, but that is where I'm finding just about all my refs. lately.

Don't know for sure, but i think this is part of it.

Jason

phriq

25-07-2008 14:52:19

People still trade at FIPG? lol and i thought this forum was simply for the wonderful rants of the newbs and wonderful wisdom of dmorris. lol. I gave up on trading here a long time ago. I will make a post every now and again, but its like fishing in a puddle.....you wont get any bites.

sandra habina

26-07-2008 21:52:47

[quote2ca437f6b9="sandra habina"][quote2ca437f6b9="tylerc"]O SANDY[/quote2ca437f6b9]

What ????

I would like to know if there is something that the members can do to help FIPG - which would help all of us as well. I do not know what costs or items are needed to run a forum of this size, but maybe there is a way to advertise it more. [/size2ca437f6b9]

Yes I have high TR - trust me I know, I worked long and hard to get here but in the past few months - I have not gained many and I am still trying. I was looking for any informative threads, but I must have missed it. I am serious, as are many of my trading friends. We just want to know what is going on, [b2ca437f6b9]and if there is something that we can do. [/b2ca437f6b9]

Thanks wink[/quote2ca437f6b9]

unknown uchiha

26-07-2008 23:18:51

Make our own version of Project Payday. Stronger. Better. Faster.

ilikegreens

27-07-2008 07:52:23

I definately agree, I haven';t been able to get but like a couple refs a month. WHich compared to 2 months ago is horrible. Also.... people at FLR are friggin animals, have you seen the LTCO section lately, someone will say "hi I want to green for you" then, within minutes, there is like 50-100 posts(not an exageration) Therefore causing people in the cash for referrals section are losing refs as well, all the newbies are attracted to that LTCO section. Too bad FIPG doesn't have as many members as them (

ESMcCready

27-07-2008 12:39:37

I'm pretty darn sure Project PayDay owns freelunchroom fully now but I could be wrong.

And I heard the only real trading you can get over at FLR is if you are verified and can sticky alot. I know a few people who buy stickies regularly there and they say its the ONLY way to go. One of them got 7 trades in one day...

I was thinking maybe FiPG should do an auto surfer. I know I've gotten a few sign ups from this one www.fastcreeper.com

I would put FiPG on my website list but it would be stretching it ALOT! I'm hardly keeping up with the 4 websites I got on my list right now.

But I really do think that its just all a-matter of getting FiPG more advertisement. Plus...

I know a few people who left here because they couldn't handle all the "smart-ass-ness" going on. I know how they feel but I wouldn't leave over it. I mean...is it just me or has anybody else noticed that some of the reggies haven't exactly been nice to the newcomers?

I mean, as soon as anyone metions PPD, someone is down their throat. Or if someone does something wrong, there's someone right there to make a comment degrading them.

I know if I had seen the Off-Topic section right off the bat...I would have ran very far away! lilolli

J4320

27-07-2008 13:50:33

If I post a hot man in here will it make things better?

ajasax

27-07-2008 15:17:19

Too late.

http//content2.myyearbook.com/zenhex/images/quiz21/102922/102922_res1.jpg[" alt=""/img6072daf6c9]

J4320

27-07-2008 15:36:13

That guy looks like he's almost good enough for Veek.

ESMcCready

27-07-2008 17:49:10

lipoints to the 3 comments above herli

My point proven lilolli

TravMan162

27-07-2008 18:16:44

the only reason new PPD mentors get a ration of crap is because they come in here and are completely ridiculous.

So many exclamation points and unnecessary kindness, it's like, you know when someone is mean to you and your mom tells you to "kill them with kindness" because it irritates the crap out of them? Yeah, it's like that, except we didn't do anything to deserve it.

CollidgeGraduit

27-07-2008 18:31:48

The smartassness has been toned down greatly, and I may not speak for the other mods when I say this, but I don't really want to change it any further. We have fun, and if people truly get out of line it is handled. However, you are going to find some tasteless jokes, sarcastic comments, and inside jokes. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

TravMan162

27-07-2008 19:09:28

[quotef67cfc17c9="CollidgeGraduit"] and if people truly get out of line it is handled. [/quotef67cfc17c9]

ha, remember that time you banned me. you jerk. P

TryinToGetPaid

28-07-2008 10:45:13

If you have not been banned here before, you truly aren't loved.

J4320

28-07-2008 10:47:35

I'm loved 2x because I've been banned twice (one for being immature and posting pig intestines and another for being immature and getting into a cat fight with veek lol... but that was many moons ago). D

tylerc

28-07-2008 11:34:53

I think I'm loved more than 2x, lulz

bballp6699

28-07-2008 13:28:12

<---- Not loved... cry

ajasax

28-07-2008 13:57:11

The real FiPG

http//www.fipg.org/

KeithA

28-07-2008 15:54:23

[quotedac8b942b4="TravMan162"]the only reason new PPD mentors get a ration of crap is because they come in here and are completely ridiculous.

So many exclamation points and unnecessary kindness, it's like, you know when someone is mean to you and your mom tells you to "kill them with kindness" because it irritates the crap out of them? Yeah, it's like that, except we didn't do anything to deserve it.[/quotedac8b942b4]

That's part of it. But I think it also has to do with the fool's-gold-rush attitude some of them take. Their first post is a 6-page "guide to the IFW biz!"

Remember, this site was one of the first to discover the legitimacy of the freebie biz, and the first to systematize the trading process. It just feels silly when people suckered in by PPD's marketing arrive to teach the oldsters all about IFWs.

TravMan162

28-07-2008 16:00:56

[quote88a7befd2a="KeithA"]That's part of it. But I think it also has to do with the fool's-gold-rush attitude some of them take. Their first post is a 6-page "guide to the IFW biz!"[/quote88a7befd2a]

the only "guide" in these things is Dora.

sandra habina

28-07-2008 18:19:31

[quotec73c8cea31="KeithA"][quotec73c8cea31="TravMan162"]the only reason new PPD mentors get a ration of crap is because they come in here and are completely ridiculous.

So many exclamation points and unnecessary kindness, it's like, you know when someone is mean to you and your mom tells you to "kill them with kindness" because it irritates the crap out of them? Yeah, it's like that, except we didn't do anything to deserve it.[/quotec73c8cea31]

That's part of it. But I think it also has to do with the fool's-gold-rush attitude some of them take. Their first post is a 6-page "guide to the IFW biz!"

[bc73c8cea31]Remember, this site was one of the first to discover the legitimacy of the freebie biz, and the first to systematize the trading process. It just feels silly when people suckered in by PPD's marketing arrive to teach the oldsters all about IFWs.[/sizec73c8cea31][/bc73c8cea31][/quotec73c8cea31]

I agree, [bc73c8cea31]but what can we do about getting this forum back on top???[/sizec73c8cea31][/colorc73c8cea31][/bc73c8cea31]
Too me it is slipping behind the other forums and it should be #1, IMO.

theysayjump

28-07-2008 20:24:34

I was banned by comppimp. That guy was an ass to the hole.

[quotebf09476624="bballp6699"]<---- Not loved... cry[/quotebf09476624]

Now you're loved. I just banned you for two days.

[quotebf09476624="sandra habina"]I agree, [bbf09476624]but what can we do about getting this forum back on top???[/sizebf09476624][/colorbf09476624][/bbf09476624]
Too me it is slipping behind the other forums and it should be #1, IMO.[/quotebf09476624]

I think a part of the reason we've lost traffic is because of our "attitude". We allow very open language, criticism of staff members (as long as it's civilised) and are generally very laid back. So someone new may join and see the way we are and be turned off.

Also, there are still members who treat other newbies like shit just to either get a laugh out of it, or to try to impress other members/appear cool. This is a big turn off, even for me. I used to visit every aspect of this forum but now I only visit a few, mainly because of the way people act.

As for ways to generate us more traffic, we have an abundance of ideas and plans for the site, but with only two people who are able to do the hard work and code these features and with them having very busy lives away from the forum, it's difficult for us to get stuff done as quickly as we'd all like.

When PPD first started and they had no affiliation with FLR, we had a huge spike in traffic that lasted for many months, but when PPD decided to sleep with Leo and JohnJimJones, they took their traffic (for the most part) with them. We don't have the money that PPD have so for us to get the kind of exposure that FLR do, it'll be difficult.

We're always open to ideas though on ways to improve the forum.

TravMan162

28-07-2008 20:30:28

[quotebf59fcd7c1="theysayjump"]

Also, there are still members who treat other newbies like shit just to either get a laugh out of it, or to try to impress other members/appear cool. This is a big turn off, even for me. I used to visit every aspect of this forum but now I only visit a few, mainly because of the way people act.

[/quotebf59fcd7c1]

come back cry

sandra habina

28-07-2008 20:42:06

I am glad to hear that you have ideas - I thought I had read about some changes awhile back. I know DMO is very busy and I am sure he works very hard with all this forum's codes - I have no idea what it takes - I would not last 1 second. (Anyone who knows me - knows I suck at computer technology).
I applaud all that work so hard at FIPG. I really do. I wish I knew something to help. It just seems unfair that most of the new sign ups go to FLR.
Maybe donations from members to help advertising costs or a program of our own to draw new members here. (?)

birdie61

29-07-2008 07:34:08

[quotea51b1237cf="sandra habina"]I am glad to hear that you have ideas - I thought I had read about some changes awhile back. I know DMO is very busy and I am sure he works very hard with all this forum's codes - I have no idea what it takes - I would not last 1 second. (Anyone who knows me - knows I suck at computer technology).
I applaud all that work so hard at FIPG. I really do. I wish I knew something to help. It just seems unfair that most of the new sign ups go to FLR.
Maybe donations from members to help advertising costs or a program of our own to draw new members here. (?)[/quotea51b1237cf]

First, hi Sandy!!
Second, I signed up on this site in February and am just now working at being here more often....
I have read through this thread and as a kind of/sort of new person here I will tell you what I see....
When I read a thread, I expect that it will stay on topic, to a point. Alot of the threads get way off base so I never find the answer I am looking for.
Also, some of the comments are a bit harsh and I know I've gone on to a different thread as I don't quite know how to take some of it....
I am sure this site is easy to navigate, but I'm having trouble with it. Maybe that's because I'm used to a couple of other forums and I'm having a brain-block!!
Another thing I see, is it's a little intimidating to a new person to get in the groove here. There seems to be a 'group of friends' for lack of a better phrase that have their own thing going and it's hard for a new person to feel like they might be able to be a part of the 'group'!

These are just my thoughts and I'm sure the longer I am here, the easier it's going to become....

Twon

29-07-2008 07:43:27

Although FIPG never did serve as a means of purchasing liability insurance for its members, the risk management
plan has survived and become the standard for organizations and campuses.

In 1995, to reflect a change in the group�s purpose and function, the name of the organization was officially
changed to FIPG, Inc. This change, much like Federal Express to �FedEx�, preserved what had become a wellknown
and accepted acronym while jettisoning a name that had never been consistent with the actual operation and
achievements of the organization.

In 1999, the FIPG board of directors determined that the Greek community that FIPG serves had evolved to the
point that an extensive and pragmatic review of the mission and future of the organization was needed. After
several strategic planning sessions and solicitation of feedback from member and non-member organizations, the
process culminated in 2001 when the FIPG membership approved a new mission statement and purpose along with
new words consistent with the acronym �FIPG� to reflect those changes.

TravMan162

29-07-2008 12:16:09

^whoa

[quotec9baa2bd45="birdie61"]Another thing I see, is it's a little intimidating to a new person to get in the groove here. There seems to be a 'group of friends' for lack of a better phrase that have their own thing going and it's hard for a new person to feel like they might be able to be a part of the 'group'! [/quotec9baa2bd45]

i know the feeling haha. they all hated me to begin with. now they just strongly dislike me. it's all about the progress.

Twon

29-07-2008 12:20:38

It's really more of a clique.

tylerc

29-07-2008 16:03:32

It's really more of us just being a big deal. We all have apartments that smell of rich mahogany, many leather bound books, and know Merlin Olson. He comes over on occasion.

TravMan162

29-07-2008 16:19:38

dude i just laughed so hard at that

adylisa

30-07-2008 12:31:53

Hmm... that was a whole lot of 'airing' from everyone. I should admit that when I just joined this forum (I started with FLR), I almost backed out cos of some of the reasons that have already been mentioned. But now I feel a little more comfortable and somewhat 'welcomed'. Being a newbie on both forums (though not very new.. have completed about 27 trades in total on both forums), i feel motivated )

With respect to the slow/inactive nature of the forum, I will say I agree to that. It really is slow, but wouldn't quit (Patience is always a virtue). I hope it gets better soon, cos it will encourage some of us. Made a couple of friends here already, some of which mentor me every now and then like Sandy ) "Thank you, Sandy" and to all those who have been helpful to me so far in one way or the other. 8)

Iloveipods2

30-07-2008 21:27:21

we all saw what happened to that those ppd kid

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bballp6699

31-07-2008 06:14:50

[quote1fc842ceb6="theysayjump"]
[quote1fc842ceb6="bballp6699"]<---- Not loved... cry[/quote1fc842ceb6]

Now you're loved. I just banned you for two days.
[/quote1fc842ceb6]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/5edc2ba05d7e6d2037210ee4bf8668f0.gif[" alt=""/img1fc842ceb6]

theysayjump

31-07-2008 08:36:35

Did you enjoy it?

tylerc

31-07-2008 08:50:12

He spent the last two days with his neighbor, lol

bballp6699

31-07-2008 10:46:26

[quote5e4438de6c="theysayjump"]Did you enjoy it?[/quote5e4438de6c]

I did. I actually forgot all about this thread, so I was all wtf...

Then I remembered...

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/21811e91731141147b107e06ba1f0941.gif[" alt=""/img5e4438de6c][img="5e4438de6c]http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/77b0b9ce33c268851ca6966487bdb0ea.gif[" alt=""/img5e4438de6c]

[quote5e4438de6c="tylerc"]He spent the last two days with his neighbor, lol[/quote5e4438de6c]

I don't get it...

tylerc

31-07-2008 10:55:02

Ask your neighbor, lol

sandra habina

04-08-2008 12:53:07

[quote57cc84b735="CollidgeGraduit"]The smartassness has been toned down greatly, and I may not speak for the other mods when I say this, but I don't really want to change it any further. We have fun, and if people truly get out of line it is handled. However, you are going to find some tasteless jokes, sarcastic comments, and inside jokes. I don't see that changing anytime soon.[/quote57cc84b735]

Oh yes, you either go with the flow or leave it. That is not the problem. IMO

I am more concerned with the fact that FIPG seems to be slowing down so much and was looking for ideas on how to help the forum as far as trading goes. THAT IS THE PART THAT NEEDS SOME CHANGING OR TWEAKING!!

I like to chat as much as anyone but you guys are just too witty for me. P Half the time I have no idea what you are talking about. Must be old timers disease.

[b57cc84b735]Let's hear some of your ideas for helping the trading situation and be nice damn it. [/b57cc84b735] 8)

TravMan162

04-08-2008 16:59:46

I'm a strong believer in "to beat the problem, you need to understand what's causing it." So before we start trying to fix the problem, we need to identify what the actual problem is.

sandra habina

05-08-2008 00:29:50

Well Trav, I can see that only a handful of new members join per day. That is a problem. I am not sure how to get more people interested in this forum??? I am not sure how they find it in the first place.

I know how I got here, but that is not available anymore. I do not know what options are out there and was hoping someone might have some insights.

birdie61

05-08-2008 07:48:09

[quotef6397c4485="sandra habina"]Well Trav, I can see that only a handful of new members join per day. That is a problem. I am not sure how to get more people interested in this forum??? I am not sure how they find it in the first place.

I know how I got here, but that is not available anymore. I do not know what options are out there and was hoping someone might have some insights.[/quotef6397c4485]

I had signed up on this site a long time ago but had not really been a part of it until just recently.
I know how I came here, but I'm not sure how others find this forum! I have done some scoping out of this forum but am not quite sure that I would be able to get trades here.
I am a member of FLR! Right now it's slow all over I think. I don't know how to pull more people over here. It seems that PPD and FLR have some sort of agreement or whatever and that's where most people go.
The scammers over there are running rampant. All you have to do is look in the Lunch Theft! I know I've been taken by a couple of them! And there seems to be no way to protect yourself from scammers! It sucks!
I would love to get going on this forum, but not quite sure that this would be profitable.
There doesn't seem to be much posting going on here!
Okay, just my opinion....I offer my head on a platter to all of you! lol

KeithA

05-08-2008 08:10:32

We've been discussing ways to increase traffic for a while. To be honest, part of the issue at the moment is that many of us have other obligations that prevent us from really driving change here. It isn't really a lack of ideas holding us back, but often travel, day jobs, girlfriends (plural), etc. get in the way.

But my guess is that we'll all have more time to contribute in a month or two. Until then, it's Deep Thoughts, with FiPG.

birdie61

05-08-2008 08:28:47

Okay, I'm in deep thought!!
I'm hoping you're right that we'll see an improvement in a month or two. Waiting, waiting, patiently waiting....

sandra habina

05-08-2008 11:22:07

[quote60cf2996e7="KeithA"]We've been discussing ways to increase traffic for a while. To be honest, part of the issue at the moment is that many of us have other obligations that prevent us from really driving change here. It isn't really a lack of ideas holding us back, but often travel, day jobs, girlfriends (plural), etc. get in the way.

But my guess is that we'll all have more time to contribute in a month or two. Until then, it's Deep Thoughts, with FiPG.[/quote60cf2996e7]

[b60cf2996e7]That is great to hear Keith A. I do know that you all have jobs and lives, forgive me for being impatient. Just wanted to hear some great feedback and that you were preparing for some changes. I will hang tight and I do appreciate all that you gentlemen do for us. Really I do. We would be nothing without you guys.

Watch out for those (plural) girlfriends, you can get in trouble that way[/color60cf2996e7][/b60cf2996e7]. )

michelle-kcmo

05-08-2008 23:13:13

I don't spend much time here anymore, but I probably will try to come over here more. I spend ALOT of time on FLR. There are alot of new members every day on FLR but there are tons of members competing for their greens too. The stickies over there are usually great though~I've had 3 so far. I recognize some of you from being on FLR too, but perhaps some of you that haven't joined there can branch out a bit. I don't know how to fix FiPG, but it has really dropped off since the forum change. That's when I noticed the decline. It seems like things may change when those that run the forum can spend more time on it. I'm not bashing anyone, but alot of time is spent on advertising and improving FLR. Also, the people are much nicer over there. It's just kind of a drag to see all the posts in threads here that are off-topic and rude or inappropriate.

ajasax

06-08-2008 10:16:18

You people don't seem to get it. FiPG doesn't want to be like FLR.

michelle-kcmo

06-08-2008 10:28:14

[bd40154ecef][quoted40154ecef="ajasax"]You people don't seem to get it. FiPG doesn't want to be like FLR.[/quoted40154ecef]

Maybe you don't because you use this as a social forum and not a trading forum. You've been here nearly 3 years and only have a TR of 20 so you're obviously not interested in trading and making money. There's nothing wrong with that, just understand that others are here to make money as well as socialize.[/bd40154ecef]

bballp6699

06-08-2008 10:54:32

I hear what you're saying, but (and other people can correct me if I'm wrong) FIPG is not here to make everyone money. I don't think Admin built this site thinking, "I hope to build a site that one day everyone can make a ton of money from."

Like most things, it probably started as a way he could bullshit with friends and others that were doing free sites and it was kind of molded from there. Honestly, compared to many other forums I've used over the years, FIPG has changed VERY little. I prefer it that way.

manOFice

06-08-2008 11:26:19

[quote8c19bbaff6="bballp6699"]I hear what you're saying, but (and other people can correct me if I'm wrong) FIPG is not here to make everyone money. I don't think Admin built this site thinking, "I hope to build a site that one day everyone can make a ton of money from."

Like most things, it probably started as a way he could bullshit with friends and others that were doing free sites and it was kind of molded from there. Honestly, compared to many other forums I've used over the years, FIPG has changed VERY little. I prefer it that way.[/quote8c19bbaff6]

As I agree... but the name of this forum is "Free Ipod Guide" .. kinda refers to guiding people to get free ipods and goods. This forum is useless if you want to trade but it's great to hang out and get other advice and chat it up.

TrubluFul

07-08-2008 08:12:40

I miss all the ref auctions that used to go on here. No other forum had it. Made FiPG special.

iluvmy5babies

07-08-2008 10:09:11

[quote3a9ca07a4c="J4320"]If I post a hot man in here will it make things better?[/quote3a9ca07a4c]

Did that help any???

TryinToGetPaid

07-08-2008 11:35:12

I love FIPG. You can be banned as many times as you wish, and always be allowed back. And Leo isn't here. And this isn't A4F. So uhhh, I love it. It is the only forum I have stayed on past a month. This is great, you guys all fuckin' rock. Cept for TylerC, and because he wont STFU about the whole neighbor joke.

J4320

07-08-2008 12:42:35

I'm getting tired of tylerc repeating the neighbor joke.

Is anyone else getting tired of tylerc repeating the neighbor joke?

zr2152

07-08-2008 12:45:26

[quoteb9adcd632d="J4320"]I'm getting tired of tylerc repeating the neighbor joke.

Is anyone else getting tired of tylerc repeating the neighbor joke?[/quoteb9adcd632d]

x2

bballp6699

07-08-2008 12:47:33

He's that guy on digg that repeats all the memes until they aren't funny anymore.

TryinToGetPaid

07-08-2008 14:23:28

I do not know what meme's are but I am glad that everyone here hates TylerC and CG as much as I do.

J4320

07-08-2008 14:44:30

"The word 'meme' is a neologism coined in 1976 by Richard Dawkins to describe how one might extend Darwinian principles to explain the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena. He gave as examples tunes, catch-phrases, beliefs, clothing-fashions, and the technology of building arches."

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