I'm getting a car! :D

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TFOAF

02-05-2008 17:52:28

1999 Nissan Maxima GLE

Black Leather Interior
Air Conditioning
Cruise Control
Dual Front Air Bags
Power Steering
AM/FM Stereo
Power Windows
Cassette
Alloy Wheels
Power Door Locks
Single Compact Disc
Tilt Wheel
Premium Sound (Bose)
ABS (4-Wheel)
Dual Power Seats
Sun Roof


v6 3.0L engine

Champagne colored, looks silver sometimes

EXCELLENT condition

31,000 miles. )


hoorah.

dmorris68

02-05-2008 18:24:53

Congrats... I think.

31K miles on a 1999? What did they do, park it and leave it? Can you say "odometer rollback?" P

Twon

02-05-2008 18:29:45

You sure you didn't mean 310,000?

TFOAF

02-05-2008 18:49:44

[quote1c8bf0efd0="dmorris68"]Congrats... I think.

31K miles on a 1999? What did they do, park it and leave it? Can you say "odometer rollback?" P[/quote1c8bf0efd0]
No. They have a disabled child, they barely used the car. The state won't give them medical assistance for the kid unless they get rid of their car because they have "over" the maximum amount of the cost of all the cars they own. So they're getting rid of this one, and leasing a different one. My mom knows them, she works with the mother. My mom brought it to the mechanic today and everything is perfect. It's practically new except for a few scratches which you can't prevent after 9 years, heh.

h3x

02-05-2008 18:58:19

Nissan cars are the worst Japanese cars on the market... I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those POS cars.

But hey, you get what you can get... Congratulations.

TFOAF

02-05-2008 18:59:41

I really don't think they're the worst Japanese cars on the market.

h3x

02-05-2008 19:16:16

All I'll say is, I would rather have a Ford... and that's saying [b487f4ce54e]a lot[/b487f4ce54e]. wink

Twon

02-05-2008 19:37:13

Cassette???

dmorris68

02-05-2008 20:41:48

[quote6908d192db="TFOAF"]I really don't think they're the worst Japanese cars on the market.[/quote6908d192db]
I'm gonna agree with h3x on this one -- I wasn't going to say it and rain on your parade, but since it's been said (rather harshly)...

Nissan consistently ranks at the bottom of the Japanese import list in quality, reliability, etc. Many GM and Euro models consistently rank higher, and that's saying something, because they're usually low on the list as well. Toyota, Honda, and Subaru are the Japanese makes that populate the highest rankings. Nissan can't touch any of them.

That said, a 9-year old Nissan is probably built better than today's Nissan's are, and since it's a free car for you, don't sweat it, but I hope you don't get stuck with expensive repairs. Cars that sit for very long without being driven are known to develop many problems as well. Tires, seals, gaskets... anything rubber has probably deteriorated from lack of use and lubrication, unless they cranked it and drove it up and down the driveway every few days.

puppeteer

02-05-2008 23:15:09

hah don't listen to them

now that you have a car, all you need is a girl on the passenger seat ;)

TryinToGetPaid

03-05-2008 07:18:52

I like how FIPG has double standards. Say the honest truth and break FOAFs heart and feelings, no big deal. Say the honest truth to anyone else and get fuckin ripped on and possibly banned. I love it

TFOAF

03-05-2008 07:55:21

[quoted148958c31="dmorris68"][quoted148958c31="TFOAF"]I really don't think they're the worst Japanese cars on the market.[/quoted148958c31]
I'm gonna agree with h3x on this one -- I wasn't going to say it and rain on your parade, but since it's been said (rather harshly)...

Nissan consistently ranks at the bottom of the Japanese import list in quality, reliability, etc. Many GM and Euro models consistently rank higher, and that's saying something, because they're usually low on the list as well. Toyota, Honda, and Subaru are the Japanese makes that populate the highest rankings. Nissan can't touch any of them.

That said, a 9-year old Nissan is probably built better than today's Nissan's are, and since it's a free car for you, don't sweat it, but I hope you don't get stuck with expensive repairs. Cars that sit for very long without being driven are known to develop many problems as well. Tires, seals, gaskets... anything rubber has probably deteriorated from lack of use and lubrication, unless they cranked it and drove it up and down the driveway every few days.[/quoted148958c31]The tires are brand new, everything is fine. The car WAS driven, just not anywhere far of course. And it's not really free, I gotta pay half.

CollidgeGraduit

03-05-2008 08:21:31

Yeah dmo, what do you know

dmorris68

03-05-2008 08:36:34

[quote457856242e="CollidgeGraduit"]Yeah dmo, what do you know[/quote457856242e]
Sorry.

doylnea

03-05-2008 08:57:53

[quote1200b8b658="TryinToGetPaid"]I like how FIPG has double standards. Say the honest truth and break FOAFs heart and feelings, no big deal. Say the honest truth to anyone else and get fuckin ripped on and possibly banned. I love it[/quote1200b8b658]

I love how you try to pick fights for no reason. That's cool too.

No one said anything rude, antagonistic or insulting about foafy or his car. You should roll one and chill out man.

zdub08

03-05-2008 10:32:47

[quotef7fbe34de6="doylnea"]No one said anything rude, antagonistic or insulting about foafy or his car.[/quotef7fbe34de6]
[quotef7fbe34de6="h3x"]I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those POS cars.[/quotef7fbe34de6]

EatChex89

03-05-2008 10:57:54

yeah i was going to go for a nissan but opted for a geo prizm instead which is a re-branded toyota corolla

but hell as long as the car runs, congrats to you, foaf bottom

JKirk

03-05-2008 11:19:57

Congrats on the new car, I think it will be fine and your mom was smart to take it to the mechanic.

ILoveToys

03-05-2008 11:20:57

I had a 93 Maxima as my first car.....wish I still had it...I love that car, but sold it for various reasons....you'll be fine foafy for a cheap car.

ilanbg

03-05-2008 11:55:30

FOAF is all growed up.

csurge

05-05-2008 10:29:03

Not exactly the best time to be getting a car eh? I am looking to get rid of mine and I've only had it since January. Time to get back on the monthly bus passes...

samz465

05-05-2008 12:34:40

Yea I just paid around $65 to fill up my tank with the regular gas...NY isn't a fun place to live.

dmorris68

05-05-2008 12:37:19

I'm paying over $80 to fill up my Sequoia. My daughter's tiny new Civic takes $46 to fill up. And our gas isn't nearly as expensive as some states (around $3.45-$3.48 at the moment).

Public transportation would be nice, but we don't have that convenience. A drawback to living in the rural burbs (but still not worth moving back into the city for).

h3x

05-05-2008 13:10:18

I'm paying $4.15/gallon at the moment. ?

csurge

05-05-2008 13:26:08

[quoteb52a247f6c="samz465"]Yea I just paid around $65 to fill up my tank with the regular gas...NY isn't a fun place to live.[/quoteb52a247f6c]

You're telling me. I went up to Binghamton and Syracuse, and couldn't believe what you guys were paying for gas. Now it's starting to happen here in Jersey.

@ dmorris I hope for your sake, you drive the Sequoia out of necessity and not because you want to or because you think it is fun >_>

manOFice

05-05-2008 13:29:10

[quote094fc59e49="samz465"]Yea I just paid around $65 to fill up my tank with the regular gas...NY isn't a fun place to live.[/quote094fc59e49]

Cost me about $48 to fill up my tank today

TravMan162

05-05-2008 13:31:30

[quote39ffb8e798="samz465"]NY isn't a fun place to live.[/quote39ffb8e798]


yeah, between high gas prices and the shitty yankees, new york really sucks to live in D

manOFice

05-05-2008 13:32:49

[quotefa96541354="TravMan162"][quotefa96541354="samz465"]NY isn't a fun place to live.[/quotefa96541354]


yeah, between high gas prices and the shitty yankees, new york really sucks to live in D[/quotefa96541354]

I don't get it, everyone calls us Yankee's, what do we call you, ignorant hick southerns?? Not directed at you but in general.

dmorris68

05-05-2008 13:35:18

Umm, I assumed he was referring to the baseball team?

manOFice

05-05-2008 13:38:29

[quote6ed8a89287="dmorris68"]Umm, I assumed he was referring to the baseball team?[/quote6ed8a89287]

oh, haha, I guess it is directed at the baseball team oops

TravMan162

05-05-2008 14:02:58

Thanks DMo D

It's okay ManO this ignorant hick still loves you

manOFice

05-05-2008 14:09:41

[quote8252e32e82="TravMan162"]Thanks DMo D

It's okay ManO this ignorant hick still loves you[/quote8252e32e82]

playful

TryinToGetPaid

05-05-2008 14:12:44

Tards.

EatChex89

05-05-2008 14:21:26

I religious fill my tank up when it gets to the half point which is like once a week. Even then, I'm only filling up 6-7 gallons of my 12 gallon tank and it's costing me $40.

Gas here is $3.87 public stations and $3.81 at Costco.

I have actually taken up hypermiling when I can and I did it for a whole week going to/from school and noticed that I used less gas! Also it's gives a sort of tranquility to the driver, at least it does to me.

tjwor

05-05-2008 15:49:07

[quoted1739a3f76="EatChex89"]I religious fill my tank up when it gets to the half point which is like once a week. Even then, I'm only filling up 6-7 gallons of my 12 gallon tank and it's costing me $40.

Gas here is $3.87 public stations and $3.81 at Costco.

I have actually taken up hypermiling when I can and I did it for a whole week going to/from school and noticed that I used less gas! Also it's gives a sort of tranquility to the driver, at least it does to me.[/quoted1739a3f76]

i fill my tank up when my "DTE" (distance till empty) reads 0 MI...

i don't get how keeping the tank more full would get you better gas mileage...

CollidgeGraduit

05-05-2008 16:09:52

[quote26c1a6a046="tjwor"][quote26c1a6a046="EatChex89"]I religious fill my tank up when it gets to the half point which is like once a week. Even then, I'm only filling up 6-7 gallons of my 12 gallon tank and it's costing me $40.

Gas here is $3.87 public stations and $3.81 at Costco.

I have actually taken up hypermiling when I can and I did it for a whole week going to/from school and noticed that I used less gas! Also it's gives a sort of tranquility to the driver, at least it does to me.[/quote26c1a6a046]

i fill my tank up when my "DTE" (distance till empty) reads 0 MI...

i don't get how keeping the tank more full would get you better gas mileage...[/quote26c1a6a046]

He never said it did, he was just saying what half a tank of gas cost...

TravMan162

05-05-2008 16:19:03

what's hypermiling?

sounds like a sport

CollidgeGraduit

05-05-2008 16:48:50

You're in luck, they just opened up a new website called google. You can search for things just by typing them in a little box!

P

zdub08

05-05-2008 17:17:41

it's been open for awhile

EatChex89

05-05-2008 17:18:14

[quote0f5de6b42a="CollidgeGraduit"][quote0f5de6b42a="tjwor"][quote0f5de6b42a="EatChex89"]I religious fill my tank up when it gets to the half point which is like once a week. Even then, I'm only filling up 6-7 gallons of my 12 gallon tank and it's costing me $40.

Gas here is $3.87 public stations and $3.81 at Costco.

I have actually taken up hypermiling when I can and I did it for a whole week going to/from school and noticed that I used less gas! Also it's gives a sort of tranquility to the driver, at least it does to me.[/quote0f5de6b42a]

i fill my tank up when my "DTE" (distance till empty) reads 0 MI...

i don't get how keeping the tank more full would get you better gas mileage...[/quote0f5de6b42a]

He never said it did, he was just saying what half a tank of gas cost...[/quote0f5de6b42a]

well rumour has it that when your tank goes below half that there is more air in it and enables the gasoline more room to evaporate thus reducing the energy content in your gasoline.

Also some tips and tricks are filling up when it's cooler as the gasoline is more dense and it's energy content is higher. Filling up when there is a tanker filling up the station is not recommended as the gas is sloshing around evaporating and lowering energy content in the gas that is going into your car. Finally, filling it up on the slowest setting for the pump allows for less gas to slosh around and evaporate. Believe it or not, gas is sold by the pound and even on the pumps it says that it isn't sold by energy content. Pumps have a return system on them where they take the fumes that are emitted by pumping and pump them back into the system which is why putting it on the lowest setting helps prevent that.

However, I don't follow any of those because when I go to the gas station, I'm not going to go all the way back home because there is a gas tanker there, I go when it is convenient for me, even if that means in mid day, and I don't have the time to pump it on the slowest setting (I tried once and it was so damn slow I gave up after 3 mins).

edit

in regards to hypermiling www.hypermiling.com

FearlessM

05-05-2008 18:33:50

Gas is more than a bitch. Its so annoying. Good stuff tho its a good vehicle

TravMan162

05-05-2008 18:42:34

Quit bitching. Half the free world has it way worse than us. 3.50 isn't that bad. Amsterdam is at $6.48, they can bitch.

tjwor

05-05-2008 19:06:35

[quote58d07f705b="TravMan162"]Quit bitching. Half the free world has it way worse than us. 3.50 isn't that bad. Amsterdam is at $6.48, they can bitch.[/quote58d07f705b]

you also have to take into affect the standard of living and income and that stuff, because half way around the world is a completely different place...

Just like the price of everything is way more expensive in Europe than the US, but they also make more money from how I understand it...

samz465

05-05-2008 19:38:39

I think a lot of their cars are also more fuel efficient.

pqdrummer

05-05-2008 19:43:45

[quote61a7cea8dd="h3x"]Nissan cars are the worst Japanese cars on the market... I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those POS cars.[/quote61a7cea8dd]

GT-R Spec-V (see the latest edition of R&T). That's all I have to say

Oh, and CONGRATS!!! I remember getting my first car. Amazing feeling.

csurge

05-05-2008 20:04:23

[quote3a7f626792="samz465"]I think a lot of their cars are also more fuel efficient.[/quote3a7f626792]

Yeah especially since there is hardly any pressure from the US Gov't to have a decent minimum MPG comparable to the rest of the world.

samz465

05-05-2008 20:06:55

They're actually pressing something like that soon.

EatChex89

05-05-2008 21:54:43

[quote9d77a1f8e0="samz465"]They're actually pressing something like that [b9d77a1f8e0]soon.[/b9d77a1f8e0][/quote9d77a1f8e0]

That's the key word.

These other countries have already been doing it.

We're a little late, dontcha think?

samz465

05-05-2008 22:09:47

As always though.

Here's the article for those who are interested
http//money.cnn.com/2008/04/22/news/economy/fuel_government.ap/index.htm?section=money_autos

h3x

06-05-2008 01:44:52

There is a technique called the "Pulse and Glide" that hibyrd vehicle owners use to boost their MPG efficiency... Its not really something that is easy for someone with a Gas-only ICE to use. But its possible.

[quotea983dc4a7d]Pulse & glide in a Geo Metro

Still skeptical, I went out in my car with the ScanGauge. I really didn't believe it was going to work, but here are the numbers I saw. I went to my "test course" - a nearly perfectly level stretch of 2-lane highway about 6.5 km long - but these numbers aren't meant to be taken as experimentally valid. I only did one run, so consider yourself warned. It's just a snapshot

li At a steady 80 km/h (about 50 mph) I was getting 59 mpg (US) (there was a tail wind)

li "gliding" down from 90 to 70 km/h took 16 seconds

li "pulsing" back up from 70 to 90 km/h at a rate of acceleration that also took 16 seconds I was getting about 34 mpg (US)

li So my pulse and glide average would be 68 mpg, vs. 59 at the same average speed. That's a 15% increase over the steady state mpg - theoretically.

I say theoretically because the engine would have to be off in the glide to get that mileage. You could do it, but it adds another step in an already arguably impractical process (remember the engine shuts off automatically in the Prius when you lift off the accelerator).

So I took a couple more readings. With the engine idling, and the car in neutral, the average mpg shown on the ScanGauge in the glide down from 90-70 km/h was 550 mpg. When you average that against the 34 mpg of the pulse, it works out to an average of 64 mpg. Now we're at an 8% increase over the steady-state mpg.

I would name the difference between the two techniques "full" pulse & glide (neutral, with engine off in the glide) vs. "mild" (neutral, with engine idling in the glide).

So, now you know the next time you find yourself cruising down a lonely road at a steady speed, you're not getting the best mileage you could. You could be pulsing & gliding to maintain the same average speed, and saving lots of fuel in the process.

To exceed your steady-state mpg (X), you just have to be able to "pulse" at a rate of fuel consumption that is greater than half of X (assuming equal length pulses & glides; you may be able to increase the proportion of glide to pulse - meaning faster acceleration in the pulse, or glides that are timed to take advantage of descending a grade - and still beat your steady-state mpg for that average speed). You can see how fuel economy instrumentation plays a critical role in determining the best rate of pulse to make this work.[/quotea983dc4a7d]

P.S. I wasn't trying to be mean Mr. FOAFSTEIN, we all (or at least I can speak for myself) had subpar cars when we started out. Next time, spring for a Toyota. ;)

CollidgeGraduit

06-05-2008 02:22:46

[quotebc488fe7e1="TravMan162"]Quit bitching. Half the free world has it way worse than us. 3.50 isn't that bad. Amsterdam is at $6.48, they can bitch.[/quotebc488fe7e1]

Just because they pay more than us, that doesn't have any bearing on our situation. The fact is, we're paying more than we should for gas, while oil companies are recording huge profits. I don't care what people in Europe pay - we have a right to bitch.

TravMan162

06-05-2008 13:27:20

[quote96deec6e5b="CollidgeGraduit"][quote96deec6e5b="TravMan162"]Quit bitching. Half the free world has it way worse than us. 3.50 isn't that bad. Amsterdam is at $6.48, they can bitch.[/quote96deec6e5b]

Just because they pay more than us, that doesn't have any bearing on our situation. The fact is, we're paying more than we should for gas, while oil companies are recording huge profits. I don't care what people in Europe pay - we have a right to bitch.[/quote96deec6e5b]

Fine, you're right. We do have a right to bitch, however, when you say we are paying "more than we should" for gas, how exactly do you determine the worth of a gallon of gas? I'm a strong believer in the idea that things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them. If big oil is allowed to keep gouging prices at our expense so that they can reap the benefits, that's a result of us not doing enough to stop them.

What can we do to get them to cut the shit? Who knows, I'm not a reformist, but all in all, in the name of capitalism, the point is to make money and if no one is stopping you from making MORE money, and the lambs still come to slaughter, then the shame is on us. They have families to feed too. Granted, they're making a ton of money at our expense, but no one is bitching about the $8 beers at Red Sox games that make the baseball players' exorbitant salaries, or anything to that effect, so how can you say one thing is offensively expensive, when something similar is overlooked in the name of entertainment.

Do you have the right to bitch? Sure. But it's not getting you anywhere and I think if we all collectively put our heads together as a nation and spent the time that we spend bitching on something more productive, we would be able to organize a plan to get the prices back down. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, plz don't take it that way........ Just my POV and I've been known to be an idiot on occasion D

TFOAF

06-05-2008 18:57:20

The plans are barrels of gasoline will rise to $200. Currently, it's $100 a barrel. Just imagine how much the price of gasoline will soar.

tjwor

06-05-2008 19:17:59

Truthfully I bitch about beer at a basketball game or a concert, and it just depends on my mood on whether I spend the money on the very overpriced beer or not...

I think the barrel hit $120 today, so at $200 it would hit $5.83 per gallon here, because right now it is $3.50 on the dot...

Oh well, nothing I can do about it... get my motorcycle running and take my 45 MPG...

ILoveToys

06-05-2008 19:43:19

My $1500 Saturn (paid for mostly from the proceeds of my Ideal macbook) gets 35 MPG, and was the best investment I ever made last summer.

dmorris68

06-05-2008 19:47:14

[quote44b9418e71="TFOAF"]The plans are barrels of gasoline will rise to $200. Currently, it's $100 a barrel. Just imagine how much the price of gasoline will soar.[/quote44b9418e71]
To nitpick, it's barrels of crude oil, not gasoline, that are just over $100 now and rising.

From everything I'm hearing, $4/gal by this summer is a virtual certainty.

doylnea

06-05-2008 19:54:25

[quote55a4523f1c="dmorris68"][quote55a4523f1c="TFOAF"]The plans are barrels of gasoline will rise to $200. Currently, it's $100 a barrel. Just imagine how much the price of gasoline will soar.[/quote55a4523f1c]
To nitpick, it's barrels of crude oil, not gasoline, that are just over $100 now and rising.

From everything I'm hearing, $4/gal by this summer is a virtual certainty.[/quote55a4523f1c]

Sweet Crude is at $120 already. I've seen $4.00 for premium already, and I don't live in CA or HI. They already have $4.00 87 grade.

dmorris68

06-05-2008 20:02:19

Yeah, I meant at least $4 for 87 grade pretty much everywhere. It's currently at $3.50 or so where I live.

samz465

06-05-2008 21:58:14

I'm at about high $3.90's in NY suburbs.

Gman14

07-05-2008 19:21:42

I think its around 3.60 or 3.65 here in central mass. I think I paid 3.55 last week for gas but im pretty positive its gone up lol. I need to buy a new car soon though, just waiting on one more check from one of the affiliates I use for my incentive network. should be over 3k... so im looking to spend about 5 or 6 grand on a car. Ive always wanted a bmw so I think im going with a older 3 series. probably a 94 or 95. Definitely cant go with a 540 or any 7 series. I would have considered it before but with gas prices right now, buying an 8 cylinder is probably the dummest thing I could do, besides getting a 12 cylinder! lol

doylnea

07-05-2008 20:06:31

Have you looked into the cost of repairs on BMWs, let alone older BMWs, and considered that they all require (or run most efficiently) premium gas?

samz465

07-05-2008 21:00:39

[quote46c30608f5="doylnea"]Have you looked into the cost of repairs on BMWs, let alone older BMWs, and considered that they all require (or run most efficiently) premium gas?[/quote46c30608f5]
Heck, my Jetta required 91 octane! Running a BMW on regular is just stupid.