Ron Paul Nov 5th Grassroots Fundraiser - $3,500,000+ so far!

For those of you who don't know, I'm a huge Ron Paul fan. Dr. Paul is an OBGYN who has delivered over 4,000 babies, 10-term congressman and is now running for president as a Republican. He has a consistent, principled voting record and is fighting hard to restore liberty and freedom in our country. He is the only Republican against the War in Iraq, for the Constitution, personal and privacy rights and lower taxes.

Anyways, he is having a fundraiser today -- ENTIRELY grassroots created. The site that organized it is http//www.thisnovember5th.com and got over 18,000 pledges to donate at least $100 on this day.

So far he has raised over $1,000,000 in 9 1/2 hours -- which is AMAZING. The days projection is well on its way for over $2,000,000 today! You can track the progress of this day here
http//ronpaulgraphs.com/

This will, I'm sure, generate some mainstream media coverage. This is grassroots campaigning at its finest.

If you're wondering what the buzz is about with this candidate, here are some links you can check out

http//youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA - Ron Paul - "A New Hope"
http//youtube.com/watch?v=I1EFHgUXZaU - Ron Paul on Jay Leno 10/30
http//www.ronpaul2008.com - Official Campaign Website

Or just do your own research. Who knows, maybe you too will become a supporter, donate, and become a part of this historical day )

http//blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/05/do_tell_ron_paul_on_babies_pro.html

[quote9725694dcf]Paul Well, I understand prostitution has been around for a few years. And they tried to legislate it out of existence and I don't think it's worked very well. I would essentially have no restrictions, certainly on the federal level. And marijuana - I think it's tragic what's happening today in the drug war. Since the early '70s we've spent maybe $200 to $300 billion on the drug war. That's not been any good. This whole effort on the drug war doesn't make any sense at all to me.[/quote9725694dcf]

Ron Paul. Free Hookers and Pot for Everyone.

[quote51459192c3="h3x"]http//blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/05/do_tell_ron_paul_on_babies_pro.html

[quote51459192c3]Paul Well, I understand prostitution has been around for a few years. And they tried to legislate it out of existence and I don't think it's worked very well. I would essentially have no restrictions, certainly on the federal level. And marijuana - I think it's tragic what's happening today in the drug war. Since the early '70s we've spent maybe $200 to $300 billion on the drug war. That's not been any good. This whole effort on the drug war doesn't make any sense at all to me.[/quote51459192c3]

Ron Paul. Free Hookers and Pot for Everyone.[/quote51459192c3]

Right. Obviously this is a small portion of what he is running on P, but I went and watched him speak when he was at U of M-Ann Arbor a few weeks ago after the CNBC Debate. He didn't talk about these things specifically, but he did mention that he endorses freedom of choice for everyone (although he doesn't necessarily support what you do with those choices). The government shouldn't own our lives and attempt to regulate virtue and freedom of choice. In a free society the individual rights and responsibilities are dependent on you and you should chose how to live your life -- not the government.

I don't know if you support the Drug War or not, h3x, but it's obvious it is NOT WORKING. Prohibition does not work -- just as it did not work with alcohol. It encourages crime, opens up a black market, we spend billions of dollars trying to "fight" the war, we incarcerate hundreds of thousands of drug users which is essentially a victimless crime and we are using OUR tax money to do this and yet it is accomplishing nothing -- usage rates and what not are NOT going down. As he said, it does not make any sense. And I'm sure you can see the hypocrisy when some illegal drugs are less dangerous and addicting than Alcohol and Tobacco are. We need a new policy.

If this guys legalizing weed hes got my vote for sure P ...I like the fact that this guy says you should control your own life and not the government...this is what we need in office.

[quotedb972a1ccc="Jeremiah1218"]If this guys legalizing weed hes got my vote for sure P ...I like the fact that this guy says you should control your own life and not the government...this is what we need in office.[/quotedb972a1ccc]

Haha. Yeah, he's continually said he is running to be president on things he DOESN'T want to do )

But yeah, I'm in between classes over at school and decided to check it out again -- 221 PM, he's up to $1,969,235. I'm sure he'll hit $2,000,000 within the next 10 minutes.

Really incredible grassroots supports and organization. Did I mention the official campaign had absolutely nothing to do with this?

What are his views on abortion and gay marriage? Obviously, neither of those 2 things are going to sway my vote but I'm just wondering.

Fox News censoring Ron Paul

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkRSEX3O-Uc

I like the new hope video.

What are his views on gun control? I couldn't find any info on his site

[quotec3077cc830="J4320"]What are his views on abortion and gay marriage? Obviously, neither of those 2 things are going to sway my vote but I'm just wondering.[/quotec3077cc830]

[bc3077cc830]Gay marriage[/bc3077cc830]

[quotec3077cc830="Wikipedia"]Paul has also stated he doesn't want to interfere in the free association of two individuals in a social, sexual, and religious sense.[124][125] Additionally, when asked if he was supportive of gay marriage Paul responded "I am supportive of all voluntary associations and people can call it whatever they want.[/quotec3077cc830]

[bc3077cc830]Abortion[/bc3077cc830]

[quotec3077cc830="Wikipedia"]Paul is strongly pro-life, and calls himself an "unshakable foe of abortion". He believes that, for the most part, states should retain jurisdiction, in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.Paul refers to his background as an obstetrician as being influential on his view, recalling a late abortion performed during his residency, “It was pretty dramatic for me to see a two-and-a-half-pound baby taken out crying and breathing and put in a bucket.”[101] During a May 15, 2007, appearance on the Fox News talk show Hannity and Colmes, Paul argued that his pro-life position was consistent with his libertarian values, asking, "If you can't protect life then how can you protect liberty?" Furthermore, Paul argued in this appearance that since he believes libertarians support non-aggression, libertarians should oppose abortion because abortion is "an act of aggression" against a fetus, which he believes to be alive, human, and possessing legal rights.[102][/quotec3077cc830]

[quote40dc7cddd3="J4320"]What are his views on abortion and gay marriage? Obviously, neither of those 2 things are going to sway my vote but I'm just wondering.[/quote40dc7cddd3]

He is, like I said, an OBGYN and is pro-life. As for gay marriage he said he believes in voluntary associations, but believes it should be up to the states.

[quote40dc7cddd3="CollidgeGraduit"]What are his views on gun control? I couldn't find any info on his site[/quote40dc7cddd3]

You must of missed it..
http//www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/second-amendment/

He has also said that September 11th could have been prevented if the airlines were allowed to carry guns on board the airplane.. instead the federal government gets involved and they prevented it.

[quotebdebf0644a="bruman"][quotebdebf0644a="CollidgeGraduit"]What are his views on gun control? I couldn't find any info on his site[/quotebdebf0644a]

You must of missed it..
http//www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/second-amendment/

He has also said that September 11th could have been prevented if the airlines were allowed to carry guns on board the airplane.. instead the federal government gets involved and they prevented it.[/quotebdebf0644a]

Yes, I know I must have missed it. I already said I did P

I like his view on it, most other politicians that actually support the right to bear arms are too afraid to come out and blatantly say it, it seems.

did CG just say "must of"?

edit nevermind, he was mocking someone. I'll catch him some day. oops

[quotef4f0eb0ca8="zdub08"]did CG just say "must of"?

edit nevermind, he was mocking someone. I'll catch him some day. oops[/quotef4f0eb0ca8]

Nope, wasn't mocking.... my quote broke though -/

He firmly supports the right to bear arms, advocates privacy and freedom of choice, supports medical marijuana (and its re-scheduling at the federal level) and has a strong stance against Illegal Immigrants.

I like what I'm hearing so far... But there a lot of other issues that he has yet to touch upon.

How does he reconcile his strong support of "freedom of choice" with his anti-abortion views? I have never seen him speak scientifically on that issue, but he seems to have earned credibility as an authority on abortion because of his background as an OBGYN.

Yes, I saw his rhetoric to the effect that "protecting life" is a precondition to protecting liberty, but can anyone point me to a full articulation of what exactly he means?

[quote7e6297eab4="h3x"]He firmly supports the right to bear arms, advocates privacy and freedom of choice, supports medical marijuana (and its re-scheduling at the federal level) and has a strong stance against Illegal Immigrants.

I like what I'm hearing so far... But there a lot of other issues that he has yet to touch upon.[/quote7e6297eab4]

What issues hasn't he touched upon?

[quote7e6297eab4="KeithA"]How does he reconcile his strong support of "freedom of choice" with his anti-abortion views? I have never seen him speak scientifically on that issue, but he seems to have earned credibility as an authority on abortion because of his background as an OBGYN.

Yes, I saw his rhetoric to the effect that "protecting life" is a precondition to protecting liberty, but can anyone point me to a full articulation of what exactly he means?[/quote7e6297eab4]

Yeah.. I'm not completely sure. I'm sure a google search could possibly find you the information you're looking for. Like you said, I believe it is not a matter of freedom of choice, but protecting the unborn.

Without turning this into a huge abortion debate like last year..

It looks like too me he considers (morals and religion aside) the unborn to be human lives, that should be protected under the same constitution that you and I are protected by. Therefore they should have the same rights to liberty and human rights as we do.

Therefore, and especially given that freedom is a huge portion of his campaign. The euthanasiation of such individuals would be a massive breach of personal liberty and human rights.

Religion aside it really comes down to what you consider the unborn are.

I want to say I heard him say that he would make abortion, gay marriage state rights issues, going back to his whole constitutional ideology. Just because he has beliefs on a certain issue, doesn't mean he would just ignore his own ideals on government at least I hope not

I'm no expert on abortion but anyone who is for killing a screaming baby from the womb is disgusting. So to a sense, I agree with Ron Paul. But I think there is a point in time during development where I think abortion would be okay. I think a time limit from conception needs to be set or something. That's just what I think with no research or anything; I'm not too headstrong about any of it because I never really looked into it. Right now, I wouldn't let an issue like that sway my vote if he were for or against it.

Incase anyone is intrested this is pretty much the official FiPG abortion thread. Theres some good points made going both ways.

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=42867&highlight=jordane

I would like to note my views on the subject have not and will not change. While looking back on that thread there are somethings that I would probably rephrase, it was a pretty heated and emotional topic for me, however I will never apologize for my views or statements on that subject.

How did you manage to edit that first post without getting the edit message? Or was that really your original post (referring to your first post in the thread)?

http//www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot

[quote5164e2d235]Some participants in the online political world have long suspected Paul's technically sophisticated fan base of manipulating online tools and polls to boost the appearance of a wide base of support. But the UAB analysis is the first to document any internet shenanigans.[/quote5164e2d235]

[quote4325bae653="doylnea"]http//www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot

[quote4325bae653]Some participants in the online political world have long suspected Paul's technically sophisticated fan base of manipulating online tools and polls to boost the appearance of a wide base of support. But the UAB analysis is the first to document any internet shenanigans.[/quote4325bae653][/quote4325bae653]

Definitely not affiliated with the official campaign. In fact, it may even by an opposition to the campaign to make them look bad.

Anyways, the numbers speak for themselves

AP Ron Paul Raises More Than $4.2 Million Today
http//ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyQLduiFMFTNmeUdgpf5cMvLi6awD8SNV5Q02

Anybody know his views on piracy? Hard to find these on any candidate.

[quotec7e8ab469b="Gigante"]Anybody know his views on piracy? Hard to find these on any candidate.[/quotec7e8ab469b]

Why are you wondering? wink

But yeah, now that you bring it up, I'd like to know what he thinks of scuvy-ridden sea dogs, as well. Media pirates, too.

Maybe he'll come down hard on media piracy, and try and put the clamp on us Canadians. We're a bad piracy country D

[quote0510f3346a="Gigante"]Anybody know his views on piracy? Hard to find these on any candidate.[/quote0510f3346a]

He's big on free trade and limited government... So, while I doubt he would be pro-piracy, he would be anti-government agencies fighting piracy.... It would all end up becoming privatized.

[quote587f7c731d="FreeEnterprize Joe"][quote587f7c731d="Gigante"]Anybody know his views on piracy? Hard to find these on any candidate.[/quote587f7c731d]

He's big on free trade and limited government... So, while I doubt he would be pro-piracy, he would be anti-government agencies fighting piracy.... It would all end up becoming privatized.[/quote587f7c731d]

Well, the RIAA isn't a government agency. It is a privatized company.

[quote710bf4d49f="bruman"]What issues hasn't he touched upon?[/quote710bf4d49f]

I would like to know his stance on Stem Cell Research.

ronpaulblimp.com

He has my vote.

So far I can say the same.

He is way too overrated, Dennis Kucinich is 20x better

[quote43ddc9b394="mnx12"]He is way too overrated, Dennis Kucinich is 20x better[/quote43ddc9b394]

Universal health care? My dad pays 40% in income taxes as it is.

Plus, look at the guy

http//i.l.cnn.net/cnn/ELECTION/2008/candidates/images/09/215x280/kucinich.jpg[" alt=""/img43ddc9b394]

Noob. My dad pays no income tax. teehee

The Income Tax is unconstitutional and there is no law that requires you to pay into the Income Tax.

[quote9fdee16d08="tylerc"]Plus, look at the guy[/quote9fdee16d08]


Srsly, y do thay db8 ne-wai? Who cares about issues,he is so gross!!!

Who cares what he looks like, that's as bad as saying you wouldn't vote for Hilary because she's a girl, or Obama because he's black.

The argument that the 16th amendment wasn't ratified is legally weak, at best.

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P.I.M.P.

The look on his face is fairly creepy.

Besides Obama seems to be on a roll for Iowa.

On The Second Amendment

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdxTg9x3Mbg&eurl=http//www.ronpaul2008.com/gunowners/

On Civil Liberties

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6se9_wCZ2z0

On Health Care

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuEdJ0DAGc

On Entitlements

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9JIwxhRfug

On Illegal Aliens

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZsBiZYocg

On Marijuana

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHS_y94H1Dk&feature=related
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_G9BPouCo