The Staff Members Need Your Help - Serious
theysayjump
13-10-2007 19:40:52
Hey people, we (the staff members) need your help.
One of our staff members (Tholek) has been missing in action for almost two months now and we've had no word whatsoever about him. It's very unlike him to be absent for so long without any warning or word saying he'll be gone for a while.
We've done quite a bit of digging and found some of his online haunts, but he's been absent from those for the same amount of time.
We've already found his MySpace and some other stuff so we're not looking for that, but if anyone kind find or knows any information on him (address, phone number etc) we'd greatly appreciate it.
Do any of you know him in real life, have met him in real life, know roughly where he lives? We've checked obituaries, newspapers and such but no dice.
He lives in New York City, so maybe some of you in NYC know of some resources we could use to find him or places we could check?
I'll give you karma for helping, but you really shouldn't need any incentive in this.
Thanks people, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also, if you find any PERSONAL personal information, please don't post it here, PM one of the Mods (besides Tholek ;) )with it.
mnx12
13-10-2007 19:42:40
If you've found his myspace, maybe you could message one of his friends and ask if they know anything?
zr2152
13-10-2007 19:49:02
Yeah I was wondering where he has been hiding. I dont have any information but I would love to help. Frank, could you send me his myspace so that I could get started?
YourGiftsFree
13-10-2007 20:37:02
Please PM me his email so I can take a look to see if he signed up on YGF.
Powerbook
13-10-2007 20:39:46
I really hope that he is ok. (
Getstuff4free Kyle
13-10-2007 21:33:53
[quotef3b9db1ebf="YourGiftsFree"]Please PM me his email so I can take a look to see if he signed up on YGF.[/quotef3b9db1ebf]
It was posted at A4F, so I assume they don't mind it being posted publicly. It's tholek at g mail dot com
And for the record, I looked him up on GS4F and ran a crosscheck and didn't see him anywhere. (
Daggoth
13-10-2007 21:47:19
You have his IP address.
Get your FBI friend to call his ISP for information.
???
Profit.
zr2152
13-10-2007 21:49:31
What about sites he has done in the past...like trainn. Could you contact Alan and see what he could do?
Daggoth
13-10-2007 21:51:10
[quote8fdd1d3881="zr2152"]What about sites he has done in the past...like trainn. Could you contact Alan and see what he could do?[/quote8fdd1d3881]
I am pretty sure both YGF and Trainn would be breaking their private policy by releasing such information.
Getstuff4free Kyle
13-10-2007 21:52:43
[quotef1bf2c9e26="Daggoth"][quotef1bf2c9e26="zr2152"]What about sites he has done in the past...like trainn. Could you contact Alan and see what he could do?[/quotef1bf2c9e26]
I am pretty sure both YGF and Trainn would be breaking their private policy by releasing such information.[/quotef1bf2c9e26]
They don't have to release the information, they can just call him themselves and find out what's going on.
theysayjump
13-10-2007 21:58:49
I think the only sites he's signed up for are Freepay and OC.
zr2152
13-10-2007 22:13:59
and most of that stuff is for 3rd parties.
Daggoth
13-10-2007 22:18:30
If you know his name, can't you just look in the whitepages in NYC?
Getstuff4free Kyle
13-10-2007 22:20:09
[quotef186c90db0="Daggoth"]If you know his name, can't you just look in the whitepages in NYC?[/quotef186c90db0]
Not if he's unlisted.
zr2152
13-10-2007 22:21:38
Well he did a good job about keeping his personal information off the web.
he lives in the city
i think he lives by nyu not too sure.
its been a while since ive talked to him.
JOSHBOX
13-10-2007 23:21:51
Shit I just realized that he hadnt posted in that long. I really hope everything turns out okay.
gmario
13-10-2007 23:47:14
Hopefully his OK ( I really miss seeing his avatar.
Hope your ok BUDDY!
Trainn-Alan
14-10-2007 00:12:28
[quote243dc678a7="zr2152"]What about sites he has done in the past...like trainn. Could you contact Alan and see what he could do?[/quote243dc678a7]
If that's the only email he used, he never signed up for any of our sites.
Alan
J4320
14-10-2007 00:47:40
[quote4a424707fa="mnx12"]If you've found his myspace, maybe you could message one of his friends and ask if they know anything?[/quote4a424707fa]
I think this is one of the best ideas so far. Someone should definitely do this.
If someone gives me his name and DOB, I could find out if he is in Jail...
YourGiftsFree
14-10-2007 06:37:12
[quote5f1705d567="Getstuff4free Kyle"][quote5f1705d567="YourGiftsFree"]Please PM me his email so I can take a look to see if he signed up on YGF.[/quote5f1705d567]
It was posted at A4F, so I assume they don't mind it being posted publicly. It's tholek at g mail dot com
And for the record, I looked him up on GS4F and ran a crosscheck and didn't see him anywhere. ([/quote5f1705d567]
Same here (
[quote5f1705d567="Daggoth"][quote5f1705d567="zr2152"]What about sites he has done in the past...like trainn. Could you contact Alan and see what he could do?[/quote5f1705d567]
I am pretty sure both YGF and Trainn would be breaking their private policy by releasing such information.[/quote5f1705d567]
I would be contacting him myself.
TFOAF
14-10-2007 06:56:15
[quote6e3eda61c6="J4320"][quote6e3eda61c6="mnx12"]If you've found his myspace, maybe you could message one of his friends and ask if they know anything?[/quote6e3eda61c6]
I think this is one of the best ideas so far. Someone should definitely do this.[/quote6e3eda61c6]
Admin
14-10-2007 09:06:18
[quote4f35286456="Daggoth"]You have his IP address.
Get your FBI friend to call his ISP for information.
???
Profit.[/quote4f35286456]i realize that you're just trolling per usual but do you realize that it often takes many months and a subpoena to get that kind of info from an ISP? they don't just cough up customer records when someone calls them nicely
TFOAF
14-10-2007 09:18:38
[quote6a02c1d16e="Daggoth"]You have his IP address.
Get your FBI friend to call his ISP for information.
???
Profit.[/quote6a02c1d16e]
Is that all you can think of is money? This is a person's life, not some thing to make money off of. And I hope most, if not all of the users are with me on this one.
I hope everything is alright with Tholek.
[quote8b3688f11b="Twon"]If someone gives me his name and DOB, I could find out if he is in Jail...[/quote8b3688f11b]
I can also get the address that his driver's license is attached to.
Killer722
14-10-2007 10:20:12
[quote2677c63dc1="J4320"][quote2677c63dc1="mnx12"]If you've found his myspace, maybe you could message one of his friends and ask if they know anything?[/quote2677c63dc1]
I think this is one of the best ideas so far. Someone should definitely do this.[/quote2677c63dc1]
His only friend is Tom.
Daggoth
14-10-2007 11:49:46
[quotea8feefb19f="Admin"][quotea8feefb19f="Daggoth"]You have his IP address.
Get your FBI friend to call his ISP for information.
???
Profit.[/quotea8feefb19f]i realize that you're just trolling per usual but do you realize that it often takes many months and a subpoena to get that kind of info from an ISP? they don't just cough up customer records when someone calls them nicely[/quotea8feefb19f]
Joke != trolling
Daggoth
14-10-2007 11:52:41
[quote4ff74df831="TFOAF"][quote4ff74df831="Daggoth"]You have his IP address.
Get your FBI friend to call his ISP for information.
???
Profit.[/quote4ff74df831]
Is that all you can think of is money? This is a person's life, not some thing to make money off of. And I hope most, if not all of the users are with me on this one.
I hope everything is alright with Tholek.[/quote4ff74df831]
I guess you don't realize that profit in the context it was used is not money. If you even bothered to read or comprehend my post, which cannot be expected from you most of the time, then you would understand that profit in the way I used it meant more of the lines of "reap the benefits of the actions."
TFOAF you have, once again, failed to take more than a cursory glance at someone's post and criticize it. Knowing you, you will probably not even reach this sentence and respond to it anyway.
JennyWren
14-10-2007 12:06:51
Daggoth - your post didn't really make any sense. I tried to figure out what you meant by ??? Profit and gave up.
KeithA
14-10-2007 12:20:58
[quote8a04890958="JennyWren"]Daggoth - your post didn't really make any sense. I tried to figure out what you meant by ??? Profit and gave up.[/quote8a04890958]
It's an internet meme riffing on the obtuseness of many web business models (or really anything with a half-baked premise). Google [i8a04890958]"3 ??? 4 profit"[/i8a04890958] (including the quotes) and you will see dozens of examples.
His advice may not have been practical, but I really don't think he meant any harm. Let's not derail this thread by sniping at each other.
TFOAF
14-10-2007 12:24:42
[quote4edeb95e0d="Daggoth"][quote4edeb95e0d="TFOAF"][quote4edeb95e0d="Daggoth"]You have his IP address.
Get your FBI friend to call his ISP for information.
???
Profit.[/quote4edeb95e0d]
Is that all you can think of is money? This is a person's life, not some thing to make money off of. And I hope most, if not all of the users are with me on this one.
I hope everything is alright with Tholek.[/quote4edeb95e0d]
I guess you don't realize that profit in the context it was used is not money. If you even bothered to read or comprehend my post, which cannot be expected from you most of the time, then you would understand that profit in the way I used it meant more of the lines of "reap the benefits of the actions."
TFOAF you have, once again, failed to take more than a cursory glance at someone's post and criticize it. Knowing you, you will probably not even reach this sentence and respond to it anyway.[/quote4edeb95e0d]
I reached it, sweety. Sorry for, [i4edeb95e0d]once again[/i4edeb95e0d] misinterpreting your post. Anyways, hopefully there's some way we can find out where Tholek is. D
stueybaby17
14-10-2007 13:47:05
I think getting Twon the information he needs will be a great help. If he can get the name and DOB he can have an address. And I'm sure there is sombody in NY that is close enough to check on him. It is at least a start.
KeithA
14-10-2007 13:56:10
[quotec3498093c4="stueybaby17"]I think getting Twon the information he needs will be a great help. If he can get the name and DOB he can have an address. And I'm sure there is sombody in NY that is close enough to check on him. It is at least a start.[/quotec3498093c4]
We actually have what may be an address for him, but it's tough to confirm it. I shared what info we have with Twon.
J4320
14-10-2007 13:57:57
[quotee161fda250="KeithA"][quotee161fda250="JennyWren"]Daggoth - your post didn't really make any sense. I tried to figure out what you meant by ??? Profit and gave up.[/quotee161fda250]
It's an internet meme riffing on the obtuseness of many web business models (or really anything with a half-baked premise). Google [ie161fda250]"3 ??? 4 profit"[/ie161fda250] (including the quotes) and you will see dozens of examples.
His advice may not have been practical, but I really don't think he meant any harm. Let's not derail this thread by sniping at each other.[/quotee161fda250]
Yeah exactly. Digg users say that all the time.
Anyway, let's just hope his situation is similar to this ---
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stueybaby17
14-10-2007 14:42:27
[quote47d2535ffc="KeithA"][quote47d2535ffc="stueybaby17"]I think getting Twon the information he needs will be a great help. If he can get the name and DOB he can have an address. And I'm sure there is sombody in NY that is close enough to check on him. It is at least a start.[/quote47d2535ffc]
We actually have what may be an address for him, but it's tough to confirm it. I shared what info we have with Twon.[/quote47d2535ffc]
Well lets find someone who lives close to that address and have them check it out. I mean if it's not the right address there is no harm done. Whoever checks can just say that they were looking for a friend and I'm sure no one would mind.
Tsmith10803
14-10-2007 15:54:25
I live in New York, I'd be willing to go wherever he lives if someone can give me the address and see if he's ok or whatever, btw, I'm back, if any of you remember me.
J4320
14-10-2007 16:04:27
[quote8db22705cd="Tsmith10803"]I live in New York, I'd be willing to go wherever he lives if someone can give me the address and see if he's ok or whatever, btw, I'm back, if any of you remember me.[/quote8db22705cd]
You're like 15... lol
I think someone older, like Kidd, should go check it out if we decided to do that.
The info that Keith gave me is not attatched to any NY DL. That suggests (assuming that he drives or has a DL) that the info was incorrect. It's possible that it could be recorded incorrectly at the DMV (I've seen it before), but not likely.
Tsmith10803
14-10-2007 17:17:24
[quote763c826a07="J4320"][quote763c826a07="Tsmith10803"]I live in New York, I'd be willing to go wherever he lives if someone can give me the address and see if he's ok or whatever, btw, I'm back, if any of you remember me.[/quote763c826a07]
You're like 15... lol
I think if someone older, like Kidd, should go check it out if we decided to do that.[/quote763c826a07]
I agree, I'm saying, if it comes to it, I'd have no problem checking it out, but I totally feel that someone older should try to first
Getstuff4free Kyle
14-10-2007 17:46:48
[quoteeea6351562="Twon"]The info that Keith gave me is not attatched to any NY DL. That suggests (assuming that he drives or has a DL) that the info was incorrect. It's possible that it could be recorded incorrectly at the DMV (I've seen it before), but not likely.[/quoteeea6351562]
If he's in NYC, he very well may not drive. A lot of people there don't.
Jams44
14-10-2007 17:56:06
However, most people have driver's licenses as a means of identification. Regardless of whether they drive or not. That or a state ID.
Getstuff4free Kyle
14-10-2007 17:57:51
[quote05e29bfbf7="Jams44"]However, most people have driver's licenses as a means of identification. Regardless of whether they drive or not. That or a state ID.[/quote05e29bfbf7]
True. Since Twon included the "assuming he drives" line, I was taking it though to mean that he only looked up driver's licenses and not state IDs. Am I correct?
Being in Canada, I can only search for a DL...
ilanbg
14-10-2007 21:32:25
Maybe people can check their paypal records and see if he ever forgot to leave out his address during a payment? This is the only thing I can think of that hasn't already been suggested.
ajasax
14-10-2007 22:14:16
Maybe he decided not to pay his internet bill to scrimp some money or something? Could've moved? Lots of possibilities. I'll try to find out as much as the internet knows about him wink
if you guys have an address ill check it.
dam he was a nice guy i hope he is well
JennyWren
14-10-2007 23:01:46
Just have to say that it's really cool to see how this community looks out for each other. I was telling this story to my bf who thinks freebies are somewhat a waste of my time (although he doesn't seem to mind playing on the XBOX and PS3 I got). For me it's way more about the people now than the prizes. I hope he is ok. Keep us posted on any news.
Getstuff4free Kyle
14-10-2007 23:04:37
[quote57f186bac6="JennyWren"]I was telling this story to my bf who thinks freebies are somewhat a waste of my time (although he doesn't seem to mind playing on the XBOX and PS3 I got).[/quote57f186bac6]
Weren't you the one who posted the "before and after" thread on A4F?
dmorris68
15-10-2007 06:27:08
[quoteca2f2620f9="ajasax"]Maybe he decided not to pay his internet bill to scrimp some money or something? Could've moved? Lots of possibilities. I'll try to find out as much as the internet knows about him wink[/quoteca2f2620f9]
It wouldn't be like him to drop off the face of the earth like this without notice. If his ISP shut him down without warning, I'm almost positive he would find a public library or cybercafe that he could at least post from or otherwise notify one of us that he wouldn't be around. When any of us staff are expecting to be out of touch for awhile, we usually let the other staff know. Tholek was a pretty consistent fixture here, and he was very diligent with his mod duties, which is why we're worried about the sudden disappearance.
bballp6699
15-10-2007 09:40:32
I'm pretty sure he said he didn't drive. You can also just get an identification card instead of a license.
yep i believe he didnt drive and used the subway system
ldybug1752
15-10-2007 11:04:45
Well this isn't good. It's so great, like someone else said, that everyone is coming together to find Tholek!
I live in NY, but not the city..I was just there last week though. Hopefully something about him turns up soon, I'm all worried and crap now (
zr2152
15-10-2007 11:06:48
I know chrome lives close to the city...maybe i can talk to him.
dmorris68
15-10-2007 12:23:46
Folks, while our goal is to find out that he's okay, and we appreciate any and all assistance in doing so, we have to remind you that there are privacy concerns here, so please tread carefully and responsibly. Although unlikely, it could be that he made some life-changing decisions that including dropping offline, and if so we'd need to respect that.
Please nobody go off on their own and just walk up to his home (if you find it) without coordinating with us first. If it comes to that, we want it to be only ONE person and not several folks, and we wouldn't want to potentially creep out his neighbors, friends, and/or family by looking like you're some internet stalker. It could be uncomfortable for them.
TryinToGetPaid
15-10-2007 13:02:14
David,
While everyone here respects your opinion both on and off the topic of computers, I have to wonder. If I came up to your house how would your neighbors know I was from "teh internetz"? Wouldn't they assume if many people came to your house, waited for 5 minutes, and then left that you were a drug dealer?
Though I have to admit, this whole thing has brought us all together as a family...an internet family, full of wierdos. Anyhow - I am sure Tholek is a private guy, given the subtle hints about the lengths he has gone to keep his information off of any site. And I hope it can all be resolved with just a phone call to his residence. And I hope he is OK.
manOFice
15-10-2007 13:41:51
He probably took a vacation and havings teh sEx!
dmorris68
15-10-2007 14:19:11
[quote0e4ea08b9d="TryinToGetPaid"]David,
While everyone here respects your opinion both on and off the topic of computers, I have to wonder. If I came up to your house how would your neighbors know I was from "teh internetz"? Wouldn't they assume if many people came to your house, waited for 5 minutes, and then left that you were a drug dealer?[/quote0e4ea08b9d]
I didn't imply anything about "drug dealers" so I have no idea why you even brought that up. Guilty conscience? ;)
As far as your question, nobody would notice nor care if one person happend to show up at my house looking for me. However if several different strangers showed up, and perhaps went to the neighbors asking questions about me, that would most certainly arouse concern if not suspicion. Especially if they said "we know him on the internet and hadn't heard from him in awhile, so we're looking for him." As I recall, Tholek lived in an apartment, and it wouldn't be too much to expect that over-zealous searchers might knock on some neighbors' doors. That needs to be handled carefully and maturely, not with some half dozen teenagers coming around and awkwardly asking questions. Or tracking down his relatives and blind-siding them.
I fail to understand how my "opinions" or "level of respect here" has anything to do with what I posted, which is not only common sense but a matter of privacy. I posted as a staff member who is trying to help coordinate efforts to determine his well-being. If you think I'm not concerned about him, you'd be wrong. In fact, I was the person that posted in the Admin forum over a month ago, expressing concern for his absence. We've been trying to contact him ever since, to no avail. But there are right ways and wrong ways of going about it.
doylnea
15-10-2007 14:35:09
[quote07983c7756="TryinToGetPaid"]David,
While everyone here respects your opinion both on and off the topic of computers, I have to wonder. If I came up to your house how would your neighbors know I was from "teh internetz"? Wouldn't they assume if many people came to your house, waited for 5 minutes, and then left that you were a drug dealer?
Though I have to admit, this whole thing has brought us all together as a family...an internet family, full of wierdos. Anyhow - I am sure Tholek is a private guy, given the subtle hints about the lengths he has gone to keep his information off of any site. And I hope it can all be resolved with just a phone call to his residence. And I hope he is OK.[/quote07983c7756]
wtf? you can't possibly be as callous as you come off. and wth does caring about someone's well-being have to do with being a drug dealer, or drug-buyer. perhaps your own decisions wrt drugs have clouded your own thinking, so to speak.
TryinToGetPaid
15-10-2007 17:57:48
He implied several ie. 10 people going to his house to look for him. I know if I had 10 people pull up and knock on my door and then leave, my neighbor would suspect something other than an internet stalker.
kidd2108
15-10-2007 18:25:59
Did anyone ever get a response from a myspace friend?
Killer722
15-10-2007 18:46:18
[quote2ecda63261="Killer722"][quote2ecda63261="J4320"][quote2ecda63261="mnx12"]If you've found his myspace, maybe you could message one of his friends and ask if they know anything?[/quote2ecda63261]
I think this is one of the best ideas so far. Someone should definitely do this.[/quote2ecda63261]
His only friend is Tom.[/quote2ecda63261]
J4320
15-10-2007 19:16:18
[quote67e3c4e9b1="Killer722"][quote67e3c4e9b1="Killer722"][quote67e3c4e9b1="J4320"][quote67e3c4e9b1="mnx12"]If you've found his myspace, maybe you could message one of his friends and ask if they know anything?[/quote67e3c4e9b1]
I think this is one of the best ideas so far. Someone should definitely do this.[/quote67e3c4e9b1]
His only friend is Tom.[/quote67e3c4e9b1][/quote67e3c4e9b1]
Well then ask Tom. roll
;)
kidd2108
15-10-2007 19:48:14
[quote6607692aaf="Killer722"][quote6607692aaf="Killer722"][quote6607692aaf="J4320"][quote6607692aaf="mnx12"]If you've found his myspace, maybe you could message one of his friends and ask if they know anything?[/quote6607692aaf]
I think this is one of the best ideas so far. Someone should definitely do this.[/quote6607692aaf]
His only friend is Tom.[/quote6607692aaf][/quote6607692aaf]
oh.
I thought you were joking. oops
theysayjump
15-10-2007 19:52:54
He is. Either that or he has the wrong MySpace page.
For the same reason that David mentioned above about going to his place of residence, I personally don't want to start spamming people on his MySpace friends list just because they're on the list.
There's no way of telling how much they know each other in real life.
J4320
15-10-2007 21:11:11
I wouldn't exactly call it spamming per se. I don't see anything wrong with politely expressing your concern about Tholek with one of his myspace friends. Of course we shouldn't have multiple members "expressing their concerns" with them; one will do fine. Anyway, I guess it all comes down to how bad you want to know what's really going on.
mnx12
15-10-2007 21:22:25
He appears to have at least two myspace profiles...
http//profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=185000286
http//profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=58122795
Truxity.net
15-10-2007 22:37:19
Hopefully he is ok and things don't end up like the search for my brothers friend last week (
tjwor
15-10-2007 23:46:00
wolfeman, u r his only friend on myspace... ur our only interweb hope it seems... I hope things are good with him though...
I can't believe its been so long since I've last since his posts... I hope he is alright.
doylnea
16-10-2007 08:53:03
Please PM a mod or Admin with additional information you may have. The point was made by an Admin last night that we're not concerned about his [i3173f81fe3]whereabouts[/i3173f81fe3], but his [i3173f81fe3]well-being[/i3173f81fe3], so please don't misconstrue our concern for Tholek as anything other than concern for someone who contributed quite a bit to our community.