2012

What do you think? What are your predictions? Do you think anything catastrophic will occur? Will the world end? What will happen? Just wondering what other people think.

Is this the year the Aztec calender says the world will end?

I'll put about as much stock in this as I did Y2K.

what's 2012?

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012

That's so weird, I was watching The Number 23 and I saw it on the beginning credits and I was thinking about that. Thanks for the link, TylerC, +KMA.

[quote1ad187da89="JKirk"]That's so weird, I was watching The Number 23 and I saw it on the beginning credits and I was thinking about that. Thanks for the link, TylerC, +KMA.[/quote1ad187da89]

lioff-topicli

Was The Number 23 any good?

lion-topicli

I don't believe it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some crazy astronomical thing happened space. For the most part I don't worry about it. It may be a good way to get laid though. P

Actually Tyler...The MAYAN calender ends in 2012.
According to the x-files TV show, Alien Recolonization will occur on December 12, 2012 ( 12/12/12), which is the end of the Mayan calender.

X-FILES FTW!!!
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(Lol...I'm an X-Files fan)
But realistically, I'm not sure what will happen...I think it will end but who knows?

^ You [ib35ca1f82c]think[/ib35ca1f82c] the world will end? Interesting.

The calendar ends December 21st, 2012 at some specific time. I think something will happen, not sure what. Most theories don't believe it will be the end of the world, but the end of [i87470964c3]time[/i87470964c3].

I think if something astrophysical was going to occur in 5 years, today's scientists and astronomers would probably have a better method of predicting it than the Mayan's did some 1000 years ago.

[quotef4ebcd1794="justinag06"]I think if something astrophysical was going to occur in 5 years, today's scientists and astronomers would probably have a better method of predicting it than the Mayan's did some 1000 years ago.[/quotef4ebcd1794]

The Mayans were pretty badass when it came to astronomy though. I've heard that they've done things that we still can't do today.

No, one "era" of the Mayan calendar ends. I believe it is divided into seven eras, and the third or fourth is about to come to an end.

2011 will be an interesting year. I'm sure there will be movies and lots of media coverage on this.

[quotee3b6b56649="J4320"]^ You [ie3b6b56649]think[/ie3b6b56649] the world will end? Interesting.[/quotee3b6b56649]
To clarify...I meant that I think it would end lion that dayli.

[quote4ed95f6626="samz465"][quote4ed95f6626="J4320"]^ You [i4ed95f6626]think[/i4ed95f6626] the world will end? Interesting.[/quote4ed95f6626]
To clarify...I meant that I think it would end lion that dayli.[/quote4ed95f6626]

Oh, yeah that's what I thought you were saying. Now that I look back on it, it looks like my remark was sarcastic. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. I just thought it was interesting that you thought the world would end during 2012. I'd be living it up if I were you. P

I'm actually quite afraid to find out. (

I predict it will rain . . . in varying quanties in a multitude of locations.

I asked one of my co-workers at camp and she said ... or maybe she's the one who brought it up, I don't remember, but she told me she thinks the world will end in 2012. For people who believe in the Bible Code, the "code" states that the world will end in 2012 as well, and the "Bible Code" has predicted many things before -- not to get onto other topics or anything.

For someone to believe in the "Bible Code" I would think they would also believe in the Bible itself. Not that it makes a difference since some people have some really whacked out interpretations of scripture. But the Bible does say that no man knows the time of the end of the world, not even the angels in heaven. So if you believe in the scripture as infallible, then it's kinda hard to believe the Mayan's, or the guys who transcribed the Bible and invented the so-called "code," got a hand up on God. shrug

[quotec1a5f93a4f="TFOAF"]I asked one of my co-workers at camp and she said ... or maybe she's the one who brought it up, I don't remember, but she told me she thinks the world will end in 2012. For people who believe in the Bible Code, the "code" states that the world will end in 2012 as well, and the "Bible Code" has predicted many things before -- not to get onto other topics or anything.[/quotec1a5f93a4f]

Source? Your post is very ambiguous.

I saw two programs on the History Channel about it. I can't remember the names of the two programs. It was very interesting and intriguing.

[quotef9f0b4c166="TFOAF"]I saw two programs on the History Channel about it. I can't remember the names of the two programs. It was very interesting and intriguing.[/quotef9f0b4c166]

Oh man, now it is all clear. roll

[quote77a83ab372="TFOAF"]The "Bible Code" has predicted many things before.[/quote77a83ab372]

Such as nuclear holocaust and destruction of major cities in 2006

I heard the bible code stuff works with ANY book that has enough pages. They used Moby Dick and also found out some predictions/events that occured.

the Bible code has not [ic6a1bb0201]predicted[/ic6a1bb0201] anything. no more than Nostradaumus. because all of the "predictions" are discovered after the event occurs. that's not a prediction, that's us looking for somethign specific and finding deep meaning in a group of vague phrases.

but anywho, i'd say a war with China over Taiwan and/or their other "territories" (eg the South China Sea, various other places) is probable. or a conflict in Korea. or one with Iran.
or more likely, Hillary Clinton is president and she just says "stop it you big meanies", because she doesn't want to go to war, justified or not.

pfff and how about the 06/06/06 nothing happen not even a terrorist attack thank god. Besides who knows what will happen until 2012 thats 5 years plenty of time, so not need to worry, however I do believe we will progress in man kind and find a cure for cancer by that time. / but who knows

A cure for cancer in 5 years? ?

all i have to say about the code, is it is pretty easy to predict the past...

haha, yep.

cure for cancer in 5 years? nah. i'd say 15-20. we already know what we could do it's just a matter of doing it. 20 years from now we'll have nanobots in our blood stream that search for disease and wipe them out. maybe...

The mayan calandar was based on astrology. In 2012 it ends due to a major event that is going to occor. Scientist also say that in 2012 the sun will be in it high solor cycle that will have major sun spot eruptions (solor flares) a major flare is suppose to hit the earth and the magnetic field that protects us will not hold it back. The earth is suppose to rotate on its axis 50 degrees causing a polor shift. This will happen over a period of 10 days. So alaska will be at the equator. This polar shift has happened in the past and is quite common amoung planets throughout.

Hmm, I thought a show I watched said some people were talking of a polar shift due to an alignment of all the planets that happens in 2012.

But I don't believe this at all. Polar shifts are a natural occurence that happens over thousands of years, not days. If it happened in days, the climate changes would be the least of our problems, because there'd be so many earthquakes and volcanoes...

Hmm, I thought a show I watched said some people were talking of a polar shift due to an alignment of all the planets that happens in 2012.

But I don't believe this at all. Polar shifts are a natural occurence that happens over thousands of years, not days. If it happened in days, the climate changes would be the least of our problems, because there'd be so many earthquakes and volcanoes...

I still have tons of bottled water and non perishable food items from y2k.

Nothing will happen.

^not true. there will probably be some awesome end of the world parties.

Something will happen, the world will go on...

Here's a good 7 minute clip on it

http//youtube.com/watch?v=w-prt5d6m6s

Also mentions Terence McKenna's Time Wave Zero (which also, by "coincidence", reaches it's 0 point on the EXACT same day and year as when the mayan calendar ends). Terence believes that in 2012 time will no longer be linear because the creation of the first Time Machine.

P.S. Terence McKenna is f'n amazing. I recommend looking him up-- just hearing this guy speak completely blows my mind. He's a really really smart guy and shared and contributed a lot to this world before his death in 2000.

http//deoxy.org/mckenna.htm

[quotecfb02ba71a="zdub08"]^not true. there will probably be some awesome end of the world parties.[/quotecfb02ba71a]
as J4320 put it, good way to get laid.

[quotecf8ce79e1d="MyGiftsFree"].... find a cure for cancer by that time. / but who knows[/quotecf8ce79e1d]

I believe it already exists.

Not sure what you consider a sure-fire cure, because chemotherapy certainly isn't.

People are cured of cancer every day. The problem is that it isn't consistent and there are no guarantees yet. Every person and every cancer type reacts differently to treatments. Compare where we are with cancer treatment today with where we were 30-40 years ago, and it's easy to see that we're right on the cusp of calling it "curable."

Another obstacle is the FDA. There are so many laws and procedures to follow that it takes a good 10 years or more for a new medicine to make it on the market. There have been reports of several breakthrough cancer treatment drugs in development, but you won't see them available for years. So yeah, there's a good chance that it's probably already "curable" in a laboratory.

Finnish Elections > Rioting in streets > Mass level extinction.

edit damn

Well some would consider me a conspiracy theorist but I feel big pharmaceuticals have a lot of breakthroughs covered up for the sake of keeping the money coming in. It wouldn't surprise me if that included a cure for cancer or at least nearer to one that they let on.

[quote5436e58c67="gambit00x"]Well some would consider me a conspiracy theorist but I feel big pharmaceuticals have a lot of breakthroughs covered up for the sake of keeping the money coming in. It wouldn't surprise me if that included a cure for cancer or at least nearer to one that they let on.[/quote5436e58c67]
Those types of theories never make any sense to me, for several reasons.

1. First, it would take an enormous amount of shamelessness and lack of ethics to pull off. While there are certainly individuals out there who would fit both characteristics, to do so on a large, publicly held company scale would be suicide on a business and social level. Look what happened to Enron, Worldcom, etc., and they weren't taking peoples' lives, only their livelihoods.

2. I doubt it could happen without word ever getting out. Such a breakthrough would almost certainly not involve one person or a small clique of people, but would rather involve dozens or hundreds of folks. It would be extremely unlikely that information wouldn't leak out, especially with cancer being so common that surely several of those people would have loved ones who are stricken and could be cured by the "secret" drug. Given human nature, there's no way a discovery of that magnitude would stay buried for long.

3. And perhaps the strongest argument against such a conspiracy, is that the company who makes such a breakthrough stands to make more money off the cure than treating the symptoms. The cost of such a drug could be enormous and people would still flock to it in droves. The prestige of the company would be off the charts, driving stock prices and company valuation through the roof. No doubt the government of not only the US but of other wealthy nations would subsidize such a product, pouring more money into the corporate coffers. Plus a cure does not equal a permanent end to cancer -- until a genetic "fix" is discovered, there will still be people developing cancer every day, so your market is endless.

Take all that into consideration, and honestly such conspiracy theories fall flat on their face, IMO. The logic doesn't hold up, which is the case with nearly all conspiracy theories.

And boy, we've ventured way off topic now. We need to create a conspiracy theory thread to keep all this discussion contained. I could go on for days debunking most of them... )

dmorris for president!!

plus, it's not like relatives of drug company CEOs never die of cancer...

[quote83d6d8a9b6="dmorris68"][quote83d6d8a9b6="gambit00x"]Well some would consider me a conspiracy theorist but I feel big pharmaceuticals have a lot of breakthroughs covered up for the sake of keeping the money coming in. It wouldn't surprise me if that included a cure for cancer or at least nearer to one that they let on.[/quote83d6d8a9b6]
Those types of theories never make any sense to me, for several reasons.

1. First, it would take an enormous amount of shamelessness and lack of ethics to pull off. While there are certainly individuals out there who would fit both characteristics, to do so on a large, publicly held company scale would be suicide on a business and social level. Look what happened to Enron, Worldcom, etc., and they weren't taking peoples' lives, only their livelihoods.

2. I doubt it could happen without word ever getting out. Such a breakthrough would almost certainly not involve one person or a small clique of people, but would rather involve dozens or hundreds of folks. It would be extremely unlikely that information wouldn't leak out, especially with cancer being so common that surely several of those people would have loved ones who are stricken and could be cured by the "secret" drug. Given human nature, there's no way a discovery of that magnitude would stay buried for long.

3. And perhaps the strongest argument against such a conspiracy, is that the company who makes such a breakthrough stands to make more money off the cure than treating the symptoms. The cost of such a drug could be enormous and people would still flock to it in droves. The prestige of the company would be off the charts, driving stock prices and company valuation through the roof. No doubt the government of not only the US but of other wealthy nations would subsidize such a product, pouring more money into the corporate coffers. Plus a cure does not equal a permanent end to cancer -- until a genetic "fix" is discovered, there will still be people developing cancer every day, so your market is endless.

Take all that into consideration, and honestly such conspiracy theories fall flat on their face, IMO. The logic doesn't hold up, which is the case with nearly all conspiracy theories.

And boy, we've ventured way off topic now. We need to create a conspiracy theory thread to keep all this discussion contained. I could go on for days debunking most of them... )[/quote83d6d8a9b6]

Debunk this

I believe that Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are conspiring together to make a super computer that controls the world. The Macrosoft.

[quotebcf19ec224="EatChex89"]Debunk this

I believe that Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are conspiring together to make a super computer that controls the world. The Macrosoft.[/quotebcf19ec224]
Impossible. There isn't a room in the known universe large enough to contain both of their egos long enough for them to conspire to do anything short of making fun of Steve Balmer's temper tantrums.

Psssh, that was easy -- I didn't even break a sweat nor consult that paragon of truth and immutable fact, Wikipedia. P ;)

Now, let's get back on topic. The end of the world is nigh, people!!! Chop chop!

2012...just another number to me... another day another year..

I have no clue about 2012. Hadn't even heard about it until looking into this thread. Hell, when I saw the thread I thought it was a video game...


But unless the world actually ends or some incredibly catastrophic global event (spanning several countries) then it seems a moot point. We could have another 9/11 or another Katrina or another tsunami but in any case the skeptics will say coincidence while the believers will say it was the prophesized event. I personally doubt something will happen and if it does then I owe you all a beer (provided that time still exists).