Vick Indicted in Dog Fighting Ring
tylerc
17-07-2007 17:16:14
http//sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2940065
Thoughts?
Since he has had a mostly clean record in the past, I don't see a full season suspension, those there are TWO felony counts.
TryinToGetPaid
17-07-2007 17:53:27
Umm. It is about time.
I see him sitting out this season. Goddell (sp?) is really trying to clean up the NFL.
tracemhunter
17-07-2007 19:51:25
why is this illegal?
zdub08
17-07-2007 19:52:50
[quotecf89be4c60="tracemhunter"]why is this illegal?[/quotecf89be4c60]
animal cruelty?
hehehhehe
17-07-2007 19:57:56
Vick is a fucking moron.
MyungChunHa
18-07-2007 05:52:23
[quote1986bccc8a="tracemhunter"]why is this illegal?[/quote1986bccc8a]
......if you don't see why this is illegal, you really need to be smacked....
I've heard that he killed a few dogs because they weren't performing well, a few by drowing, a few by hanging, and even one by slamming the dog into a concrete ground......I have no respect or pity for someone who does that.
bballp6699
18-07-2007 06:00:37
This is why Max the Pit Bull mauls baby Frank.
But it's the dog's fault right? shrug
Powerbook
18-07-2007 06:15:41
what a bastard... I lost two of my dogs very early on when they were just 8 months old and 2 years old at separate times. I can't believe someone could be so inhumane. It pisses me off when all these celebrities think they can do whatever they want. It is about time someone is cracking down on these assholes.
tylerc
18-07-2007 06:46:43
[quote9e77f4a93f="MyungChunHa"][quote9e77f4a93f="tracemhunter"]why is this illegal?[/quote9e77f4a93f]
......if you don't see why this is illegal, you really need to be smacked....
I've heard that he killed a few dogs because they weren't performing well, a few by drowing, a few by hanging, and even one by slamming the dog into a concrete ground......I have no respect or pity for someone who does that.[/quote9e77f4a93f]
Yeah, that's what they said on Sports Center last night.
luvrowy
18-07-2007 07:15:06
its never the dogs fault..its the raising...my mother has a lab/pit bull mix,which looks just like a giant pit bull/ this dog weighs about 100 pounds, and ANYBODY who sees it, is scared, until it comes over and kisses them..the sweetest dog ever! these dogs act like that because some moron taught them to act like that.
justinag06
18-07-2007 08:03:24
Yeah if you ask me this is a thousand times worse than all of the "rain making" we've seen Pacman do.
It's not like Vick has been clean, he just gets off the hook a lot more. Remember the marijuana in the water bottle. I'm sure if he is suspended it will be at least 8 games, probably the season. I really hope Giddel sticks to his guns though, because he will look like a hypocrite not to at this point.
bballp6699
18-07-2007 08:12:27
Problem is that Michael Vick makes the NFL a lot more money then Pacman Jones does.
moneymoneynow
18-07-2007 08:31:08
I am so freaking sick of hearing this stuff about NFL players. It seems like there is a new story every month, at least. There wsa a time in the NFL when these problems were taken care of on the field. I hope someone this season sacks him by picking up and slamming him to the ground, like what happened to one of the dogs they found in his yard. Then the guy could stand over Vick and say "Your dead dogs say Hello!" Do the Falcons go to Cleveland this year? That would be awesome. The dog pound would be pelting him with biscuits!
CollidgeGraduit
18-07-2007 08:43:52
[quote8b79ac1f26="moneymoneynow"]I am so freaking sick of hearing this stuff about NFL players. It seems like there is a new story every month, at least. There wsa a time in the NFL when these problems were taken care of on the field. I hope someone this season sacks him by picking up and slamming him to the ground, like what happened to one of the dogs they found in his yard. Then the guy could stand over Vick and say "Your dead dogs say Hello!" Do the Falcons go to Cleveland this year? That would be awesome. The dog pound would be pelting him with biscuits![/quote8b79ac1f26]
Except this is a much more serious crime than something that would be warranted by a hard sack and having milkbones thrown at you. I say make him sit out for the season, without pay, and also pay the Falcons for the salary of their replacement starting QB.
manOFice
18-07-2007 08:44:04
Wow this is nuts, everyone at work is talking about this, lol.
Why he would risk all this is beyond me...say goodbye to vick falcons fans
This is just so messed up.
I watched a story about major cock fighting rings in NYC getting busted recently.
bballp6699
18-07-2007 08:46:23
He still had fans?
manOFice
18-07-2007 08:47:53
[quote984e19be4e="bballp6699"]He still had fans?[/quote984e19be4e]
Not for long.
TryinToGetPaid
18-07-2007 09:18:46
We still have cockfighting legal in Louisiana. YEEEEE HAW!
Yeah Micheal Vick can go play patty cake with Pacman Jones.
justinag06
18-07-2007 09:47:32
[quotef29b342075="bballp6699"]Problem is that Michael Vick makes the NFL a lot more money then Pacman Jones does.[/quotef29b342075]
This is why i'm worried he is going to get off easy. Giddel kind of backed himself into a corner. Acting out and suspending players before they had their day in court. Now he is forced to continue to go down this path or risk being labeled a hypocrite not suspending Vick for exactly the reason you stated.
dmorris68
18-07-2007 09:48:37
[quotea088eac11b="tracemhunter"]why is this illegal?[/quotea088eac11b]
I sincerely hope you were trying to be funny. Or sarcastic. Or something. Anything but serious. ?
topbillin1
18-07-2007 11:57:08
Dog fighting is something that's popular towards alot of inner city youth, any hood you go too you'll see a million pit bulls walking with their owners, it's the thugged up gangsta mentality that these guys just can't let go off and it's pathetic. You'll think at that age they would change up but they can't let go of their roots.
kidd2108
18-07-2007 12:12:18
http//sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2940312
[quote282929261d]The government's case includes evidence that Vick and his cohorts "tested" pit bulls for ferocity. If the dogs failed the test, the indictment charges, they were executed by hanging or drowning. In one case, with Vick present, the indictment says a dog was slammed to the ground until it was dead. [b282929261d]In another incident, a dog was soaked with a hose, then electrocuted.[/b282929261d] Those aren't the sort of transgressions that lead to probation and community service. It's the kind of behavior that results in punishment, and the punishment will be jail time.[/quote282929261d]
shock
I say we throw him in a cage and fight with some MMA guys. 10 matches, 1 hour long, everyday for 1 month. D
Oh, and after that 1 month, they taser him for fun.
Wolfeman
18-07-2007 18:08:29
I haven't read anything in this thread but if he is involved I hope he goes to jail. People that are involved with dog fighting are sick fucks and deserve to be beaten...
hehehhehe
18-07-2007 19:47:46
[quote84c39e0c2d="Wolfeman"]I haven't read anything in this thread but if he is involved I hope he goes to jail. People that are involved with dog fighting are sick fucks and deserve to be beaten...[/quote84c39e0c2d]
Yep. The aspca throws people in jail for neglecting animals, so he definitely deserves to do time for this shit. However, since he is who he is, he probably won't do any time. (
JKirk
18-07-2007 19:50:17
[quote07bd6008fc="hehehhehe"] However, since he is who he is, he probably won't do any time. ([/quote07bd6008fc]
I think he will but that's just my opinion.
Big War Bird
18-07-2007 20:05:27
Jiust how dumb do you have to be to screw up being a millionaire?
Hunter_82
18-07-2007 22:07:43
[quoteecfa9c4180="Big War Bird"]Jiust how dumb do you have to be to screw up being a millionaire?[/quoteecfa9c4180]
Lol...it appears the answer to this is however dumb Michael Vick is!
I will be disappointed if he is not suspeded for a full year and has jail time. I Remember him laughing it all off a few months ago claiming that no matter what "everyone will still love Mike Vick". The guy is a moron who deserves everything i hope he gets! And the Falcons are stupid for not seeing this coming and trading their backup Quarterback! Vick has been walking the line for the past couple of years.
theysayjump
18-07-2007 22:45:26
Cunt.
People who commit animal cruelty deserve to be fucking maimed by giant Ponies with Tiger teeth and Anthrax soaked hoofs.
aviendha47
19-07-2007 16:16:39
[quote4dfd2f708c="theysayjump"]Cunt.
People who commit animal cruelty deserve to be fucking maimed by giant Ponies with Tiger teeth and Anthrax soaked hoofs.[/quote4dfd2f708c]
I concur. Lovely image.
taekwondoguy
20-07-2007 14:21:06
what happened to the policy of innocent until proven guilty isn't this america?
kidd2108
20-07-2007 14:25:00
[quoteb95b6046aa="taekwondoguy"]what happened to the policy of innocent until proven guilty isn't this america?[/quoteb95b6046aa]
clean up your sig. No ref links allowed. Read FIPG rules.
manOFice
20-07-2007 14:26:32
[quote94f9731388="taekwondoguy"]what happened to the policy of innocent until proven guilty isn't this america?[/quote94f9731388]
When it comes to this topic...your post is stupid. Didn't they find a dog fighting ring at his house?
Wolfeman
20-07-2007 14:31:51
[quote5b0c5357d2="taekwondoguy"]what happened to the policy of innocent until proven guilty isn't this america?[/quote5b0c5357d2]
OJ was found innocent, you think he didn't kill his wife?
justinag06
20-07-2007 14:33:31
He is innocent until proven guilty, however we are talking about the NFL or the Atlanta Falcon's cleaning up their own organization's. It's like you get charged with a DWI and then your employer fires you before you ever step foot in court.
Also do you honestly believe he is innocent in this? The place was named after his hometown, it was at his house. There are a lot of eye witnesses confirming he was into dog fighting. Also this is the Federal Government who is bringing this case, not some hotshot D.A. trying to make a name for himself. If they are going to take on a high profile celebrity they built a damn good case, and are probably sure he is guilty of it.
I think they have a 95% conviction rate, so honestly football is the least of Vick's worries right now.
manOFice
20-07-2007 14:40:26
[quoteebd9a931bb="Wolfeman"][quoteebd9a931bb="taekwondoguy"]what happened to the policy of innocent until proven guilty isn't this america?[/quoteebd9a931bb]
OJ was found innocent, you think he didn't kill his wife?[/quoteebd9a931bb]
I sure could go for a glass of some OJ right about now
or a MOJITO!
manOFice
17-08-2007 12:03:40
Looks like if he accepts the plea deal he'll get a year in prison and if he doesn't it could go up to 20 years in prison
tjwor
17-08-2007 15:48:03
i'd say he deserves more than a year if the stuff i've heard is true...
TryinToGetPaid
20-08-2007 13:17:17
AND HE TAKES THE DEAL......
Of course, his 3 friends turned around and ratted on him, I didn't see him trying to BS his way through a trial and get 20 years.
He has millions, he didn't ruin his life, just his reputation and his playing career. He has more money than any of us, and his great great great grandkids probably will too.
manOFice
20-08-2007 13:20:55
[quote06898143ad="TryinToGetPaid"]AND HE TAKES THE DEAL......
Of course, his 3 friends turned around and ratted on him, I didn't see him trying to BS his way through a trial and get 20 years.
He has millions, he didn't ruin his life, just his reputation and his playing career. He has more money than any of us, and his great great great grandkids probably will too.[/quote06898143ad]
Why are you sticking up for a dog killer?
TryinToGetPaid
20-08-2007 13:33:06
I am not -- the media is acting like he threw his life away, and as I stated all he threw away was his reputation and his playing career. I doubt when he gets out he is going to cry much over not being able to play in the NFL.....
manOFice
20-08-2007 13:35:44
[quote331c9e9eec="TryinToGetPaid"]I am not -- the media is acting like he threw his life away, and as I stated all he threw away was his reputation and his playing career. I doubt when he gets out he is going to cry much over not being able to play in the NFL.....[/quote331c9e9eec]
I bet he does...
Alls he had was the NFL and his dog fighting. Now that both are down the drain he has nothing.
TryinToGetPaid
20-08-2007 13:36:25
No -- now he can go back to smoking marijuana.
manOFice
20-08-2007 13:37:35
[quote2c06528516="TryinToGetPaid"]No -- now he can go back to smoking marijuana.[/quote2c06528516]
lol lol
michae229
20-08-2007 14:38:11
He will be back
manOFice
20-08-2007 14:41:00
[quote23c0e62713="michae229"]He will be back[/quote23c0e62713]
No, he won't.
TryinToGetPaid
20-08-2007 15:40:53
What football team needs a QB THAT bad? To be scrutinized every second by every media outlet? To have PETA protest at EVERY game and EVERY practice....
Wolfeman
20-08-2007 15:47:51
He was never a good QB to start. Only way he is ever coming back is as a WR/ST kick returner type on a team like the Raiders. No one wants to associate their team with such a sick fuck...
ragefu
20-08-2007 23:24:59
Lol yeah he'll probably end up on the raiders
Big War Bird
21-08-2007 05:46:00
[quote59ef647959="ragefu"]Lol yeah he'll probably end up on the raiders[/quote59ef647959]
Quoted for truth, they'll take anybody.
TyreeCary
22-08-2007 15:33:43
[quoted9e50f75db="tracemhunter"]why is this illegal?[/quoted9e50f75db]
IT is an awful thing to do to animals and it ruins them they end up being mean vicious creatures
they end up hung, drowned,euthanized etc etc..
That man made tons of money to bad he decided it wasnt enuff and not only showed a total lack of respect to mans best friend but threw away his career!
TryinToGetPaid
22-08-2007 19:15:21
They don't euthanize pit bulls that fight, unless hanging, drowning, and electrocution is a way to euthanize a dog now...
michae229
22-08-2007 20:50:00
[quote50114c9680="manOFice"][quote50114c9680="michae229"]He will be back[/quote50114c9680]
No, he won't.[/quote50114c9680]
yea he wil, sorry to burst your bubble but players have done worse
TryinToGetPaid
23-08-2007 06:27:19
michea - you are wrong about the ps3 and you are wrong about this. Michael Vick MAY play FOOTBALL - but not in the United States and CERTAINLY not in the NFL. Pacman is suspended for a year for minor charges.... Vick has 2 felony charges against him and the media is EATING the NFL.
2 things important to the NFL Image and Money.
NO FALCON FAN IS GOING TO PAY TO SEE JOEY HERRINGTON PLAY!
There goes your money.
The image is already down the drain now...Want to make a bet? 100 dollars?
MyungChunHa
23-08-2007 06:49:42
[quotedf957854f8="Wolfeman"]He was never a good QB to start. Only way he is ever coming back is as a WR/ST kick returner type on a team like the Raiders. No one wants to associate their team with such a sick fuck...[/quotedf957854f8]
WR? Vick?
He would be a much better RB than he would make as WR or kick returner. He was a good QB though, not amazing accuracy or anything but very versatile. Trust me, coachs were afraid of what he could do. He was never completely consistant, but when he got it going he could slice through any defense with the fact that they have to cover both the long ball and the quick sneak for 5 yards
michae229
23-08-2007 09:18:44
[quote3a04e23d67="TryinToGetPaid"]michea - you are wrong about the ps3 and you are wrong about this. Michael Vick MAY play FOOTBALL - but not in the United States and CERTAINLY not in the NFL. Pacman is suspended for a year for minor charges.... Vick has 2 felony charges against him and the media is EATING the NFL.
2 things important to the NFL Image and Money.
NO FALCON FAN IS GOING TO PAY TO SEE JOEY HERRINGTON PLAY!
There goes your money.
The image is already down the drain now...Want to make a bet? 100 dollars?[/quote3a04e23d67]
why don't you calm down or STFU there are people in the NFL that went to trial for Murder, sold drugs, took drugs, and BEAT THEIR FUCKING WIVES and still played, so yes people have done worse he will comeback people will talk and forget!!!
Go tell your dad to mod your xbox or something.....
TryinToGetPaid
23-08-2007 10:08:03
So does that mean we have a bet?
doylnea
23-08-2007 10:10:46
next antagonistic post gets this thread locked.
zdub08
23-08-2007 13:45:59
seems like all the guys on TV think he will be back in the NFL.
manOFice
27-08-2007 11:36:13
Vick admits he lied and admits he has to grow up!!
http//www.yahoo.com/s/661434
prosecution's suggested 12-18 months up to the five-year maximum if the judge so decides.
Hudson told Vick before setting a Dec. 10 sentencing date. He promised "an adequate but not longer than necessary" sentence.
He took a special opportunity to apologize to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, who has [b8233beb0ae]suspended him indefinitely[/b8233beb0ae]
Wolfeman
27-08-2007 14:19:38
I think he should be allowed to play again but I don't think any team will want him. I just don't get how you can be so mean to a puppy (
manOFice
27-08-2007 14:22:03
[quoted275d618cd="Wolfeman"]I think he should be allowed to play again but I don't think any team will want him. I just don't get how you can be so mean to a puppy ([/quoted275d618cd]
I know right! I look at my puppers and shes so cute!
kingclips
28-08-2007 22:05:46
not that smart, he's alreayd rich, and killing dogs, man, some people