Just Your Opinion Please....

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darklight

11-07-2007 14:18:04

I was curious about whether you guys thought this lady was wrong for what she said to me. Heres what happened

So yesterday I go to RiteAid to grab some toothpaste and a pack of gum. When I got to the front of the line the lady, who was Hispanic, rang up my stuff and she told me my total in Spanish. I said "excuse me" only because she said it really fast and I had no idea what she said.
So she rolled her eyes roll and said it again this time in English. I said "oh ok didnt hear you". She then said, "someone needs to be bilingual huh?".
I was offended. For starters I didn't hear what she said that was why I asked her to repeat herself. Sure it would be beneficial for me to be bilingual but is it a necessity? She then asked me what the national language was, I said "English right?" She said no Spanish. I was like what? shock
She handed me my change and was really rude to me after, she said.."OK bye bye have a nice day" rushing me out of the store.

Sorry. Just had to vent and wanted to know everyones take on my little situation.

Elsie82271

11-07-2007 14:26:59

The United States of America actually does not have a national language...Some B.S. about too many ntaionalities that would feel put-out by having to learn English.

If we go to Mexico, we need to speak Spanish cuz they won't speak English to us. France, Italy, Germany, Russia - guess what? The same thing. If we are in THEIR country, they expect us to learn their language. Shouldn't it be the same for ours????

Big War Bird

11-07-2007 14:50:58

I would complain to the manager about the cashier being rude, hopefully getting her fired. Of course I am sort of a dickhead about things like that.

geej86

11-07-2007 14:54:38

maybe the majority of her customers are spanish speaking and that's what she's used to saying.. she was rude imo but it is a good idea to learn some espanol nowadays

/sup fipg

darklight

11-07-2007 15:16:36

[quotee02a0fd60f="Big War Bird"]I would complain to the manager about the cashier being rude, hopefully getting her fired. Of course I am sort of a dickhead about things like that.[/quotee02a0fd60f]

I wouldnt want to get her fired. Im sure she has a family to feed. But that was just wrong. I thought about writing a letter to corporate.

TFOAF

11-07-2007 15:20:42

^ Please remove your sneaky referral link in your signature.

Skeeter

11-07-2007 15:39:56

She was just being a bitch!
The last time I checked this is the [uab704cbd22]United States of America[/uab704cbd22] NOT Mexico.
You're not paying her in pesos so what the hell.
And Spanish isn't the "national language" it's English.
You should of just went off on her.

darklight

11-07-2007 15:40:35

[quoteb16c876574="TFOAF"]^ Please remove your sneaky referral link in your signature.[/quoteb16c876574]
WTF there is no ref link. What are you talking about? Are you the ref link police?

KeithA

11-07-2007 15:42:56

[quote6e8325c3de="darklight"][quote6e8325c3de="TFOAF"]^ Please remove your sneaky referral link in your signature.[/quote6e8325c3de]
WTF there is no ref link. What are you talking about? Are you the ref link police?[/quote6e8325c3de]

That Paypal icon isn't a reflink?

And before you ask---yes, I am.

darklight

11-07-2007 15:48:44

I know you are. God. What is up with rude people on this forum?

KeithA

11-07-2007 15:55:11

[quote8763851074="darklight"]I know you are. God. What is up with rude people on this forum?[/quote8763851074]

I didn't mean to be rude. There are a handful of basic rules on this forum that the experienced users (myself included) tend to nitpick. The posting of referral links is one of them.

Don't take it personally.

kidd2108

11-07-2007 15:55:20

[quotec3bd885ccc="Skeeter"]She was just being a bitch!
The last time I checked this is the [uc3bd885ccc]United States of America[/uc3bd885ccc] NOT Mexico.
You're not paying her in pesos so what the hell.
And Spanish isn't the "national language" it's English.
You should of just went off on her.[/quotec3bd885ccc]


So...just cause she spoke in spanish, shes from Mexico? roll

Elsie82271

11-07-2007 15:55:42

Incorrect ... The US does not have a national language. Although some states are passing it as state law, such as Idaho (just recently) and Illinois (I think a few months ago). We are getting there, but we're not there yet....

[quote35e15ecb63="Skeeter"]She was just being a bitch!
The last time I checked this is the [u35e15ecb63]United States of America[/u35e15ecb63] NOT Mexico.
You're not paying her in pesos so what the hell.
And Spanish isn't the "national language" it's English.
You should of just went off on her.[/quote35e15ecb63]

darklight

11-07-2007 16:03:02

[quoted671db4b8f="KeithA"][quoted671db4b8f="darklight"]I know you are. God. What is up with rude people on this forum?[/quoted671db4b8f]

I didn't mean to be rude. There are a handful of basic rules on this forum that the experienced users (myself included) tend to nitpick. The posting of referral links is one of them.

Don't take it personally.[/quoted671db4b8f]

I totally understand, but I KNOW the rules. Plus there was no ref link to begin with. roll
[quoted671db4b8f="kidd2108"][quoted671db4b8f="Skeeter"]She was just being a bitch!
The last time I checked this is the [ud671db4b8f]United States of America[/ud671db4b8f] NOT Mexico.
You're not paying her in pesos so what the hell.
And Spanish isn't the "national language" it's English.
You should of just went off on her.[/quoted671db4b8f]


So...just cause she spoke in spanish, shes from Mexico? roll[/quoted671db4b8f]
I could care less if she spoke Spanish. For one she was at work. Everything printed on my reciept, on the sale papers and throughout the store was English. On top of that she was rude to me like I did something wrong.

Skeeter

11-07-2007 16:03:14

[quote49d63810b9="kidd2108"]
So...just cause she spoke in spanish, shes from Mexico? roll[/quote49d63810b9]
Why not, he is in California. The majority of Spanish speaking people are Mexican. roll

TFOAF

11-07-2007 16:14:26

[quotec9e8383b87="darklight"][quotec9e8383b87="KeithA"][quotec9e8383b87="darklight"]I know you are. God. What is up with rude people on this forum?[/quotec9e8383b87]

I didn't mean to be rude. There are a handful of basic rules on this forum that the experienced users (myself included) tend to nitpick. The posting of referral links is one of them.

Don't take it personally.[/quotec9e8383b87]

I totally understand, but I KNOW the rules. Plus there was no ref link to begin with. roll[/quotec9e8383b87]
Sorry to prove you wrong, but currently, there is a referral link. The website that you have linked to that PayPal image is a referral link to your PayPal account.

darklight

11-07-2007 16:18:21

OMG someone send this guy something. Praise him, make him feel better. He just went out of his way and crapped my thread for a stupid ass Paypal link that no one cares about.
So congrats you cracked down one criminal, you are the FiPG favorite member of the day.

DIABLO

11-07-2007 16:30:24

[quoteb31d5d416d="darklight"]OMG someone send this guy something. Praise him, make him feel better. He just went out of his way and crapped my thread for a stupid ass Paypal link that no one cares about.
So congrats you cracked down one criminal, you are the FiPG favorite member of the day.[/quoteb31d5d416d]

He's not a dick for telling you to follow the rules, your sig has a ref link, and it's against the rules, so either you remove it or a mod will remove it.

bballp6699

11-07-2007 16:32:53

Your thread was pretty crappy to begin with...









Alright alright, I'm sorry.

darklight

11-07-2007 16:36:37

Remove it. No biggie. I had no idea it was a ref link to begin with. Some of you people are really rude. What are some of you so angry for?

h3x

11-07-2007 16:59:12

In my opinion, the official language should be English and if you're coming to live here, I think you should learn English in order to gain citizenship (just as much as if I were to move to Spain, I should have to learn Spanish as a condition to gain citizenship).

But chances are, the woman you dealt with at the RiteAid is an illegal alien and/or has prejudice towards 'gringos'.

Admin

11-07-2007 16:59:19

i just read the thread a couple times and the only thing you could reasonably call rude was tfoaf's stuff but if you are as experienced as you claim you should know that that's pretty tame for your average internet board and definitely comes with the territory. why did you get so defensive about it instead of listening to a helpful one-line suggestion that you stop breaking the rules? that would have avoided all this.

DIABLO

11-07-2007 17:23:03

Nobody would be arguing with you if you just took it out after TFOAF and KeithA said something and said sorry they would have been fine, but you left it in unknowingly and TFOAF told you there was, and then you still argued, most people that complain about others being rude are the ones that are being rude on FiPG... the reason nobody is rude at A4F is because they'll get banned for the smallest bit of flaming, which is pretty stupid, IMO, but if you don't like it here go to A4F.


EDIT You still have it in your sig? roll

weebles_five

11-07-2007 17:34:25

[quotec20877b4df="h3x"]In my opinion, the official language should be English and if you're coming to live here, I think you should learn English in order to gain citizenship (just as much as if I were to move to Spain, I should have to learn Spanish as a condition to gain citizenship).

But chances are, the woman you dealt with at the RiteAid is an illegal alien and/or has prejudice towards 'gringos'.[/quotec20877b4df]

Ditto!!

theysayjump

11-07-2007 17:37:49

I'll be rude because someone doesn't know how to take a warning.

[b53757fd8de]Remove the fucking ref link. When a staff member tells you to do something because you're violating the rules, you do it. You don't just leave it and tell them to get it for you.[/b53757fd8de] [/color53757fd8de]

For fuck sake.

CollidgeGraduit

11-07-2007 17:44:06

I'll remove it!

Hmm... where is it? Click "Ban User"? I'll try it.... hmm, I think that did it.

bballp6699

11-07-2007 18:07:42

Now this is the FIPG I know and love.

TryinToGetPaid

11-07-2007 18:28:15

Yeah - I was wondering where THIS FIPG went.....

Elsie82271

12-07-2007 00:41:59

I totally agree with you. If you are going to live here and conduct business here, you should have to learn at least basic English. I mean, geez, we give them their drivers' tests in their native language. If they can't even take the test in English, then how in the hell can they read our road signs???? As I said before, we are getting there, as states are beginning to make it state law that all goverment documents must be written in English.

I live in "Little Tiajuana" Washington (if you are from here, you know where I am...) and I can't even get a job here because I'm not bilingual. What the hell is that? I was flililiing born here!!!!! It took my friend, a veteran, 9 months to find a job here 'cuz she only speaks English.

FYI - Working for RiteAid, she wouldn't be an illegal 'cuz they do check all that documentation. [quote2fc67c45e0="h3x"]In my opinion, the official language should be English and if you're coming to live here, I think you should learn English in order to gain citizenship (just as much as if I were to move to Spain, I should have to learn Spanish as a condition to gain citizenship).

But chances are, the woman you dealt with at the RiteAid is an illegal alien and/or has prejudice towards 'gringos'.[/quote2fc67c45e0]

h3x

12-07-2007 01:01:30

I have never heard the term "Little Tijuana" coined before. But I do know that most of Eastern Washington in general has a lot of Hispanics, so I assume you live somewhere in Eastern Washington (perhaps the Tri-Cities area?) http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/8da47a6a788bfa3cafaca999fecc915f.gif[" alt=""/img089e95b765]

Elsie82271

12-07-2007 06:33:12

Good guess!!!

nobody2000

12-07-2007 09:28:03

You know what? Whether she should learn english or whether we have a national language or what..it makes no difference.


If she continues to be rude, speak inappropriate languages (you're in a primarily english-speaking country, you speak english...especially if you can), she's gonna get fired, repremanded, whatever, and she's gonna hit the cieling of her potential pretty damn quickly.

gator1002

15-07-2007 06:21:33

[quotea4f419e03a="theysayjump"]I'll be rude because someone doesn't know how to take a warning.

[ba4f419e03a]Remove the fucking ref link. When a staff member tells you to do something because you're violating the rules, you do it. You don't just leave it and tell them to get it for you.[/ba4f419e03a] [/colora4f419e03a]

For fuck sake.[/quotea4f419e03a] lol, Now thats the TSJ we all know and love. I thought there for a min. you were on vacation or somthing. (Fred)

ilanbg

16-07-2007 15:51:03

If the issue is with her being rude, then yeah, she was rude. Big deal.

If the issue is with English as the Unofficial National Language, then y'all are, quite simply, wrong. There is no national language. Business may be conducted in any language—while it may be [ie271132268]preferable[/ie271132268] to conduct business in English, to reach a larger market base, it's not required. And if you live in an area that has a large population of non-English speakers, then [ie271132268]you[/ie271132268] should be learning [ie271132268]their[/ie271132268] language, since you're the one having trouble communicating with these people.

If you're going to live in Little Italy, learn Italian. If you're going to live in China Town, learn Chinese. If you're going to live in a latino community, learn Spanish. Being a U.S.-born resident doesn't give you preference in what language you should speak; that is part of the fiber of America. These people are equal to you; their language is just as valid as yours. I believe it's rather unpatriotic to believe they ought to conform to your standards.

tylerc

16-07-2007 15:53:45

As of now it's not, like someone else said, but they're working to make English the national language.

I think the basis of the argument for most people is that if you go to Mexico, you speak spanish, god help you if you can't/don't, same with Germany, France, etc., even though there are people that speak English everywhere, and people here don't want to be bothered learning Spanish or any other language when English [i42a4720add]is[/i42a4720add] the primary language here.

ilanbg

16-07-2007 16:02:42

[quotef3ab81fd23="tylerc"]As of now it's not, like someone else said, but they're working to make English the national language.[/quotef3ab81fd23]

As I've said in other related threads when/if this occurs, I'll recede my position, and restate that I think it's unfortunate we resorted to this. But until then, my position holds.

[quotef3ab81fd23]I think the basis of the argument for most people is that if you go to Mexico, you speak spanish, god help you if you can't/don't, same with Germany, France, etc., even though there are people that speak English everywhere, and people here don't want to be bothered learning Spanish or any other language when English [if3ab81fd23]is[/if3ab81fd23] the primary language here.[/quotef3ab81fd23]

As you say, people in those countries do and would speak English.

Nevertheless, that isn't the point. Those countries don't claim to offer the freedom to come from any other country and make a life there. America does. America explicitly states that everyone is welcome; herein is also offered the freedom to speak your own tongue, if you choose.

dmorris68

16-07-2007 17:04:43

Thank you, ilanbg.

My sentiments exactly.

gnznroses

16-07-2007 17:22:08

it's her job to tell you your price in a way you can actually understand... if she can't speak the correct language she should go back to wherever that is the correct language... i'm not racist or anything but if you live and work in the US, then freakin speak English. it's not up to us to learn YOUR language, you have to learn OURS.
i live in WV tho so i have no probs with that sorta thing....

ilanbg

16-07-2007 18:04:56

I assume when you say "ours," you mean "Americans'." So I also assume that you don't consider her an American if she doesn't speak English, correct?

That is stilted thinking. Her language is just as valid as yours. She has the freedom to conduct business in any language she wants, and you have the freedom to take your business elsewhere if you feel unsatisfied as a result.

zdub08

16-07-2007 18:08:55

she's probably not an American if she doesn't speak english. becoming a citizen requires the "ability to read, write, and speak english"

ilanbg

16-07-2007 18:16:41

Dude... you honestly think she's an illegal immigrant simply because she chose to address her customer in Spanish rather than English?

Firstly, she [ib9e0bc324b]does[/ib9e0bc324b] speak English, since she then translated what she said. Secondly, it's a bit ignorant to assume she's a naturalized immigrant at all, just because she speaks Spanish.

zdub08

16-07-2007 18:22:12

I think you misinterpreted what I said. You said "So I also assume that you don't consider her an American if she doesn't speak English, correct?" I was only responding to that. If someone doesn't speak English, I would assume he/she is not American. Naturalized citizens are required to know it, and I would bet over 99% of citizens born in America learn English, even if their parents or people in the area they live do not speak it. It really wouldn't be an ignorant assumption at all.

Obviously, that doesn't apply to this situation because of her translation. I was only responding to one thing you said.

ilanbg

16-07-2007 18:25:40

Oh, whoops. My bad.

zdub08

16-07-2007 18:31:37

no problem 8)

I'd also like to add that this whole thing is probably being blown way out of proportion. maybe she was just having fun and mixing it up during her 8 hour shift at the grocery story...

theysayjump

16-07-2007 20:29:30

What exactly constitutes being an American?

Gaining citizenship doesn't make you American, it makes you an American citizen. What makes you American is being born here.

Besides, she only said it the first time in Spanish, second time in English so regardless of where she's from, she grew up in a non-English speaking household and learned English as she grew up.