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theysayjump

06-06-2007 20:57:41

[quotef8f5725346="FreeOffersNow"][quotef8f5725346="chrome89k"][quotef8f5725346="FreeOffersNow"]junk.[/quotef8f5725346]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what...

can i just ask someone to post a laundry list of bad things via the iphone...

i really dont get why people hate on it[/quotef8f5725346]

Because I know Apple. They will actually purposely build oversized, feature-lacking products...only to periodically introduce increasingly smaller and more feature-rich "generations" of that same product. I love my iPod (I STILL use a 4th gen, even after having given away or sold 100's of "better" iPods), but I'll stick with my Cingular 8125.[/quotef8f5725346]

It's how a lot of companies make money.

There's only one reason why Apple won't make the greatest phone ever known to man, with every feature, app, technology, capability that everyone wants and is possible. They're more than capable of doing so, but without periodic hype and media attention, they won't get as much attention.

This way they're keeping themselves in the news, building hype, keeping loyal customers with products that are only getting better and more feature-rich and constantly making money on something that more and more people are buying.

If they made the best phone possible, they'd have nothing to release in a few months time such as a new version or bigger HD capacity etc.

FreeOffersNow

06-06-2007 21:12:00

All reasons why the iPhone is junk...[icc20304378]for now[/icc20304378].

Bentley

06-06-2007 22:35:11

[quote868c69dde2="samz465"]iPhone does NOT have 3g.....

Slow internet??
How is this a media phone then...[/quote868c69dde2]

But it supports Wifi and that owns

And Im buying one on the 29th, goodbye t-mobile

mnx12

06-06-2007 23:06:25

I hope to get one when a)they are cheaper, and i am able to afford it, b) they have made improvements like you guys mentioned, and c)when i move out and have actual need for a cell phone. Right now I use a pay-as-you go, and I maybe spend $20 on it every 3 or 4 months...

Chris

06-06-2007 23:34:15

$599 WITH a 2-year contract? better be a hell of a phone..

MyungChunHa

07-06-2007 06:17:26

[quote6bace03402="Chris"]$599 WITH a 2-year contract? better be a hell of a phone..[/quote6bace03402]
Not to mention it's going to cost a shit-load a month...

Does anyone know how much exactly?

dmorris68

07-06-2007 06:33:33

It won't cost any more per month than any other phone, as far as I know. There isn't a special plan for iPhones compared to other smartphones is there?

I was all over the iPhone when it was announced, planning to upgrade my Cingular 8125 with it. Then I discovered that, in true Apple fashion, it will be a completely closed phone with no 3rd party apps or ability to write your own apps for it.

Sorry, but $600 for a multi-purpose device that I can't extend at will, like I do my 8125, isn't going to cut it for me. So unless/until it is hacked to the point where you can install custom apps (and Apple doesn't nuke it for doing so), then I'll have to pass.

Lack of 3G isn't a concern for me. I hate surfing on a handheld anyway, and only do so when I have to and within range of a hotspot. Only occasionally will I use MediaNet Edge/GPMS to check a movie listing or something while I'm out and can't get WiFi, and it costs me only a few cents at a time without having to pay for a data plan.

Jams44

07-06-2007 08:01:56

[quote63f5ccb957="dmorris68"]It won't cost any more per month than any other phone, as far as I know. There isn't a special plan for iPhones compared to other smartphones is there?[/quote63f5ccb957]

Lack of 3G is also not a concern for me. But sadly the required data plan to have most to all apps running frequently is quite the large sum of money. Over a 2 year span plan on paying a "rumored" $30. However, my mom is working specifically with this project (VP of media and IT at AT&T) and she said that it will have its own specific data plan. So if you are lucky plan on it being like $19.99 as opposed to $30 considering they would never make you pay more than a regular smartphone. As for me I'm getting one and since its going to be registered under my mom I'm set whether its $30 or $19.99. Yes, I am bragging.

ragefu

07-06-2007 09:20:08

Only thing I'm worried about is battery life. I don't want to have to charge it like 3 times a day just to be able to use it

tjwor

07-06-2007 10:57:23

i'm planning to get one in October when my current plan runs out...

dmorris68

07-06-2007 11:08:09

[quote44cdfbd24f="Jams44"][quote44cdfbd24f="dmorris68"]It won't cost any more per month than any other phone, as far as I know. There isn't a special plan for iPhones compared to other smartphones is there?[/quote44cdfbd24f]

Lack of 3G is also not a concern for me. But sadly the required data plan to have most to all apps running frequently is quite the large sum of money. Over a 2 year span plan on paying a "rumored" $30. However, my mom is working specifically with this project (VP of media and IT at AT&T) and she said that it will have its own specific data plan. So if you are lucky plan on it being like $19.99 as opposed to $30 considering they would never make you pay more than a regular smartphone. As for me I'm getting one and since its going to be registered under my mom I'm set whether its $30 or $19.99. Yes, I am bragging.[/quote44cdfbd24f]
What apps require a data plan? Are you saying all the other routine smartphone functionality like calendar, contacts, SMS messaging, playing music/videos, etc. require that? I'm wondering because I don't use any data-plan-specific tools. If it has WiFi that should be sufficient for e-mail and browsing while near a hotspot.

If they require an extra data plan to get any usefulness from the thing, I think they'll find it a total failure. This isn't a Blackberry demographic they're aiming for here, it's the young, hip crowd who wouldn't be quick to shell out all that extra money every month.

chrome89k

07-06-2007 11:11:10

[quote1346176f56="MyungChunHa"][quote1346176f56="Chris"]$599 WITH a 2-year contract? better be a hell of a phone..[/quote1346176f56]
Not to mention it's going to cost a shit-load a month...

Does anyone know how much exactly?[/quote1346176f56]

why on earth would it cost more than any other fone... u just pay for what you want.... data plans, calling plans, etc... nothing special...

i dont mind battery life very much... charging it nightly isnt a problem to me...

im not expecting it to be a computer... i just want to fuse my ipod w/ a phone...

how much is it for the phone alone?

TFOAF

07-06-2007 11:32:04

It's $599 with a 2-year contract...I don't think you can purchase it lonesome.

chrome89k

07-06-2007 11:38:49

u have to be able to.... lol

i dont think there is any way to limit that...

almost as ridiculous as saying that this phone will cost more per month than anything else

FreeOffersNow

07-06-2007 11:54:42

[quotef1cfc7cf75="ragefu"]Only thing I'm worried about is battery life. I don't want to have to charge it like 3 times a day just to be able to use it[/quotef1cfc7cf75]

Let's hope they don't use batteries which are only rated for 1 year of use this time...

dmorris68

07-06-2007 12:24:08

[quote55dd1151c8="chrome89k"]u have to be able to.... lol

i dont think there is any way to limit that...

almost as ridiculous as saying that this phone will cost more per month than anything else[/quote55dd1151c8]
Most new phones are restricted, especially when they first come to market. Cingular/AT&T has an exclusive contract with Apple to sell the iPhone initially, so there won't be other sources aside from folks who get them from Cingular and then re-sell them. Until their exclusivity contract ends, you'll either have to get it with a plan, or buy it for $1000 or more without a contract. It's just like when the RAZR came out exclusive to Cingular. Nobody else had it, and if you wanted one without contract you paid something like $500 for it.

Most cellphones, especially the new ones, are sold at a loss with a contract. The service contract subsidizes the cost of the phone. That's why you almost always see carriers sell stand-alone phones for 2-3 times the contract price. Knowing Apple, the iPhone MSRP would probably be $800-$1000, and everybody knows Apple doesn't allow steep discounts on their products.

shortys408

07-06-2007 12:35:14

treo > iphone

dmorris68

07-06-2007 12:41:10

[quote3bfe2f79f0="shortys408"]treo > iphone[/quote3bfe2f79f0]
HTC Wizard (and it's carrier variants like Cingular 8125/8525) > treo P

MyungChunHa

07-06-2007 13:03:09

[quotee4b6f13284="chrome89k"]u have to be able to.... lol

i dont think there is any way to limit that...

almost as ridiculous as saying that this phone will cost more per month than anything else[/quotee4b6f13284]
I just thought that it might have it's very own plans because of teh large data it might require due to apps...

Truth is, I know nothing about cell phones and just go off of what I hear or read.....or mis-read

Bentley

07-06-2007 13:35:56

[quote93b1c41f98="dmorris68"][quote93b1c41f98="chrome89k"]u have to be able to.... lol

i dont think there is any way to limit that...

almost as ridiculous as saying that this phone will cost more per month than anything else[/quote93b1c41f98]
Most new phones are restricted, especially when they first come to market. Cingular/AT&T has an exclusive contract with Apple to sell the iPhone initially, so there won't be other sources aside from folks who get them from Cingular and then re-sell them. Until their exclusivity contract ends, you'll either have to get it with a plan, or buy it for $1000 or more without a contract. It's just like when the RAZR came out exclusive to Cingular. Nobody else had it, and if you wanted one without contract you paid something like $500 for it.

Most cellphones, especially the new ones, are sold at a loss with a contract. The service contract subsidizes the cost of the phone. That's why you almost always see carriers sell stand-alone phones for 2-3 times the contract price. Knowing Apple, the iPhone MSRP would probably be $800-$1000, and everybody knows Apple doesn't allow steep discounts on their products.[/quote93b1c41f98]

Its probably going to be more than $1000 because companies who sell Apple products do not make huge profits. Cingular/ATT are not going to sell a cell phone that they are going to make a few dollars off of without someone signing or extending a contract, if they do the phone is going to cost a grip.

Chris

07-06-2007 14:10:11

They are not going to offer the phone without a contract. The only way to obtain the phone without a contract will be from eBay, but expect the prices to be quite high in monetary value. Word on HowardForums is that they will let you "renew" your contract for 2 years, even if the current contract (Cingular/AT&T) is not up.

samz465

07-06-2007 14:13:02

[quote57f27f72a2="xyclonez"][quote57f27f72a2="chrome89k"]who said 3 gigs... lmao

AND... im assuming the internet on this phone is just as fast as maybe a sidekick.... def usable on the go... but nothing like cable... duh![/quote57f27f72a2]
Thanks for answering that before i had to =)
3g does not mean 3 gigs.. its the name of the technology that cell phone providers are introducing (short for 3rd generation mobile technology)

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G[/quote57f27f72a2]
Thanks for answering that before i had to =)
[quote57f27f72a2="Bentley"][quote57f27f72a2="samz465"]iPhone does NOT have 3g.....

Slow internet??
How is this a media phone then...[/quote57f27f72a2]

But it supports Wifi and that owns

And Im buying one on the 29th, goodbye t-mobile[/quote57f27f72a2]
Wifi is only good in a hotspot...And hotspots aren't available EVERYWHERE yet.

[quote57f27f72a2="dmorris68"][quote57f27f72a2="shortys408"]treo > iphone[/quote57f27f72a2]
HTC Wizard (and it's carrier variants like Cingular 8125/8525) > treo P[/quote57f27f72a2]
8525 [u57f27f72a2][b57f27f72a2]FTW!![/b57f27f72a2][/u57f27f72a2]

chrome89k

07-06-2007 14:54:25

[quotec30a57ab0a="Chris"]They are not going to offer the phone without a contract. The only way to obtain the phone without a contract will be from eBay, but expect the prices to be quite high in monetary value. Word on HowardForums is that they will let you "renew" your contract for 2 years, even if the current contract (Cingular/AT&T) is not up.[/quotec30a57ab0a]

thats impossible... i CANNOT see them doing that... but i aint going to pay 1000 for that thing anywayz so w.e... i'm able to get an upgrade so we'll see

dossiej

07-06-2007 15:17:03

I really dont have a use for it since I already have a smart phone and an ipod, but I want one. Its looks tight on tv!

dmorris68

07-06-2007 18:02:10

[quote5fd8ae768b="chrome89k"][quote5fd8ae768b="Chris"]They are not going to offer the phone without a contract. The only way to obtain the phone without a contract will be from eBay, but expect the prices to be quite high in monetary value. Word on HowardForums is that they will let you "renew" your contract for 2 years, even if the current contract (Cingular/AT&T) is not up.[/quote5fd8ae768b]

thats impossible... i CANNOT see them doing that... but i aint going to pay 1000 for that thing anywayz so w.e... i'm able to get an upgrade so we'll see[/quote5fd8ae768b]
Dude, we already explained this. ALL carriers do this with new phones, especially those as heavily hyped as the iPhone. It's standard industry practice and has been for as long as cell phones have been around. I got my first cellphone 12 years ago, and it was the same way then. You WILL NOT find a (legitimate) iPhone without a contract unless you're willing to pay out the nose for it, because the contract is what covers the remaining cost of the phone.

chrome89k

07-06-2007 18:06:28

[quoteb25381e370="dmorris68"][quoteb25381e370="chrome89k"][quoteb25381e370="Chris"]They are not going to offer the phone without a contract. The only way to obtain the phone without a contract will be from eBay, but expect the prices to be quite high in monetary value. Word on HowardForums is that they will let you "renew" your contract for 2 years, even if the current contract (Cingular/AT&T) is not up.[/quoteb25381e370]

thats impossible... i CANNOT see them doing that... but i aint going to pay 1000 for that thing anywayz so w.e... i'm able to get an upgrade so we'll see[/quoteb25381e370]
Dude, we already explained this. ALL carriers do this with new phones, especially those as heavily hyped as the iPhone. It's standard industry practice and has been for as long as cell phones have been around. I got my first cellphone 12 years ago, and it was the same way then. You WILL NOT find a (legitimate) iPhone without a contract unless you're willing to pay out the nose for it, because the contract is what covers the remaining cost of the phone.[/quoteb25381e370]

i said... i know it will be expensive...

i cannot see them charging more PER MONTH for servicing...

aviendha47

07-06-2007 18:28:06

thats impossible... i CANNOT see them doing that... but i aint going to pay 1000 for that thing anywayz so w.e... i'm able to get an upgrade so we'll see
Dude, we already explained this. ALL carriers do this with new phones, especially those as heavily hyped as the iPhone. It's standard industry practice and has been for as long as cell phones have been around. I got my first cellphone 12 years ago, and it was the same way then. You WILL NOT find a (legitimate) iPhone without a contract unless you're willing to pay out the nose for it, because the contract is what covers the remaining cost of the phone.

Sounds like they'd have to come up with completely new plans just for the iphone. As it is you can get any plan you want with whatever phone you want. In my area at least.

cubbieco

07-06-2007 18:35:58

I don't see why they would require additional plans. Maybe you have to have a data plan to review the voice mail (without calling the voice mail system)??? Otherwise everything else should work and be stored in the phone.

I still have 18 months left so I won't be getting the iPhone until the 2nd or 3rd generation.

dmorris68

07-06-2007 19:12:35

[quote32e39e1413="chrome89k"][quote32e39e1413="dmorris68"][quote32e39e1413="chrome89k"][quote32e39e1413="Chris"]They are not going to offer the phone without a contract. The only way to obtain the phone without a contract will be from eBay, but expect the prices to be quite high in monetary value. Word on HowardForums is that they will let you "renew" your contract for 2 years, even if the current contract (Cingular/AT&T) is not up.[/quote32e39e1413]

thats impossible... i CANNOT see them doing that... but i aint going to pay 1000 for that thing anywayz so w.e... i'm able to get an upgrade so we'll see[/quote32e39e1413]
Dude, we already explained this. ALL carriers do this with new phones, especially those as heavily hyped as the iPhone. It's standard industry practice and has been for as long as cell phones have been around. I got my first cellphone 12 years ago, and it was the same way then. You WILL NOT find a (legitimate) iPhone without a contract unless you're willing to pay out the nose for it, because the contract is what covers the remaining cost of the phone.[/quote32e39e1413]

i said... i know it will be expensive...

i cannot see them charging more PER MONTH for servicing...[/quote32e39e1413]
Okay then, but Chris' post and your reply didn't mention anything about paying extra per month. Chris only said, as several of us have, that you'd be required to sign a new contract, he didn't say you'd have to get an extra data plan.

junkie06

07-06-2007 20:09:30

Check out LG Prada phone
http//www.pradaphonebylg.com/

aviendha47

07-06-2007 20:37:20

[quote559a27c6d4="junkie06"]Check out LG Prada phone
http//www.pradaphonebylg.com/[/quote559a27c6d4]

Dolce & Gabbana have one too.
http//www.mygoldrazr.com/
For those who have way more money than they know what to do with.

Jams44

07-06-2007 20:46:48

okay, wow way to not read previous posts. I specifically said there are highly probable rumors that it will have its own data plan. The phone, besides from possibly working with Rodgers (look for a possible AT&T & Rodgers merge?) there will be no other service providers offering it. Not at least for 2 years, thats why Europe is out of luck. dont plan on unlocking it either considering since the programs are based on the edge network they wont be compatible with other services. )

Bentley

07-06-2007 21:42:29

K guys calm down. Maybe someone asked if there was an iPhone plan is because look at the T-Mobile Sidekick. They have a plan called Unlimited Sidekicking plan... guess what? its only for the sidekick. It offers unlimited texting, web browsing and AOL/MSN/Yahoo IM. It makes sense to wonder if theres going to be any exclusive plans for such an exclusive phone. But you guys are in luck I went to Cingular to see if I approved for a 2-year contract which I did and I asked if there were exclusive plans for the iPhone and he said "No" and I said because I told him everything I just mentioned above and he totally understood where I was coming from so he went from "No" to "most likely its going to be off of the plans they already have" I also asked him about the price and he said there won't be a discounted price for a 2 year sign-up or extension but they weren't sure if you can buy the phone without signing for any services. In other words its just a case of Apple not telling anyone anything until June 28th.

dmorris68

07-06-2007 22:10:51

Jams44, I think we all understand that they may offer an iPhone-unique data plan. However what some were implying is that the data plan would be lirequiredli which does not seem to be the case (and would be a major marketing blunder).

Of course any smartphone with features like the iPhone requires a data plan to make use of every single feature, from anywhere you might go. But it isn't required for 80+% of the phones features. That's what we're getting at. I have a Cingular 8125 that could really utilize a data plan if I wanted to pay for one, but I don't, and I still use nearly all the features on my phone. I just go online via WiFi or MediaNet when I have to.

Jams44

07-06-2007 22:44:58

Then don;t plan on using the phone unless you have the restricted data plans. It's a constant data streaming phone, don't expect them to use their current plans. You would outdue your plan within the first week. I am not saying they are not going to have different plans. I am saying they will have none of the current plans they have now. Expect a iPhone only plan sheet. If I can I will grab one from my mom's office (if you can do that?)

bigchan2k

07-06-2007 23:01:03

[quote749140c769="Jams44"]Then don;t plan on using the phone unless you have the restricted data plans.[b749140c769] It's a constant data streaming phone[/b749140c769], don't expect them to use their current plans. [/quote749140c769]

How so? What data needs to be streamed when the phone isn't in use?

Bentley

07-06-2007 23:20:45

[quote7a49d91960="Jams44"]Then don;t plan on using the phone unless you have the restricted data plans. It's a constant data streaming phone, don't expect them to use their current plans. You would outdue your plan within the first week. I am not saying they are not going to have different plans. I am saying they will have none of the current plans they have now. Expect a iPhone only plan sheet. If I can I will grab one from my mom's office (if you can do that?)[/quote7a49d91960]

I don't agree with you there. Look at the sidekick. They don't require a data plan for the minority of people that only use the sidekick for a phone and not for texting even though every single person I know that has the sidekick have the data plan, myself included. People aren't going to buy a phone that requires them to subscribe to a service they won't use.

For more info http//www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp

I'm also looking forward to visually checking my voice mail.

dmorris68

08-06-2007 07:03:49

[quote2688ee913e="Jams44"]Then don;t plan on using the phone unless you have the restricted data plans. It's a constant data streaming phone, don't expect them to use their current plans. You would outdue your plan within the first week. I am not saying they are not going to have different plans. I am saying they will have none of the current plans they have now. Expect a iPhone only plan sheet. If I can I will grab one from my mom's office (if you can do that?)[/quote2688ee913e]
Okay, humor me then. What about the iPhone requires constant streaming? I can't imagine anything that would require that for normal smartphone operation. Unless it was just an arbitrary money-making decision to require it and not a technical one, which I think would be a marketing nightmare.

Jams44

08-06-2007 09:04:12

If you are running weather widgets or any RSS feed, that would require constant streaming and seeing as that is ultimately one of the liknownli features of Mac OS it will undeniably be on there. As for the sidekick comment, the sidekick has other capabilities other than being a T-Mobile only phone. Since it isn't for the most part using any T-Mobile only features (with exceptions) it can be used with other service providers by simply being unlocked. Seeing as they are using technology only known to AT&T it would seem they aren't going to be like "other plans". Sure they will have certain levels of the iPhone data plans but don;t expect to use your current plan with it. And if you say well I just won;t use widgets, or half the other programs that would spike up the cost, why the fuck would you get it?

lol im going to feel like a jackass when im wrong but that's my somewhat knowledged opinion

chrome89k

08-06-2007 10:58:43

jeez... heated debate... im just going to call cingular...

will be posting later with the verdict

Jams44

08-06-2007 11:18:08

cingular employees know as much as everyone else, they are keeping everything on the DL

chrome89k

08-06-2007 11:29:25

im going to call if employees dont tell me...

Powerbook

08-06-2007 11:46:29

I want an iphone, but if the plans are too expensive I will just get a regular phone.

dmorris68

08-06-2007 13:06:56

[quote08ccd2dd01="Jams44"]If you are running weather widgets or any RSS feed, that would require constant streaming and seeing as that is ultimately one of the liknownli features of Mac OS it will undeniably be on there. As for the sidekick comment, the sidekick has other capabilities other than being a T-Mobile only phone. Since it isn't for the most part using any T-Mobile only features (with exceptions) it can be used with other service providers by simply being unlocked. Seeing as they are using technology only known to AT&T it would seem they aren't going to be like "other plans". Sure they will have certain levels of the iPhone data plans but don;t expect to use your current plan with it. And if you say well I just won;t use widgets, or half the other programs that would spike up the cost, why the fuck would you get it?

lol im going to feel like a jackass when im wrong but that's my somewhat knowledged opinion[/quote08ccd2dd01]
Again, those types of widgets are readily available on Windows Mobile phones today, but not a lot of people use them. I know I don't with my 8125. There are plenty of reasons to use such a phone without a data plan. You'll find those who do use a live data plan with such a phone are in the vast minority.

Most people with a smartphone use it for calendering, contacts, media playback, messaging and occasional surfing. All of which can be done without a data plan. I know LOTS of folks with smartphones that COULD stream live if they wanted to, but none do. That's why I'm highly suspect of very many people wanting to do that with an iPhone. It just doesn't make sense. I've seen very little of the iPhone that would require or even benefit from constant streaming, which is why I'm doggedly questioning you. By all means, if you know something specific that I don't, please tell me. But so far you've still not indicated anything that would justify a mandatory data plan for an iPhone. RSS and weather applets are just goofy. And BTW weather updates take very little data -- when I want to check weather on my 8125 without a data plan, and WiFi isn't available, I'll pull from MediaNet at the cost of like 10-20 cents. Now granted, if you do this often every day, then a data plan is going to be cheaper. But who looks at a weather update more than a couple times a day, if that? No way I could justify a data plan just to have live weather and news feeds, unless I was in a business that relied on that data.

[b08ccd2dd01]EDIT[/b08ccd2dd01] Been reading up on iPhone this evening. Everything is still on the down low, even Cingular/AT&T sales folks are giving out wrong info (which figures, sales reps are often quite ignorant of details anyway), so all of this is still pure speculation. However the majority consensus that I've been reading is that, while AT&T will most likely offer an iPhone data plan (rumored to be $30), it will NOT be required. And the iPhone will work with any existing data plan as it is, as well as with WiFi hotspots without any data plan.

Even more interesting is what I read concerning subsidies apparently Apple will NOT allow the phone to be subsidized through a service plan, which would seem to indicate the $599 price is the same with or without a contract. But AT&T is rumored to be giving Apple kickbacks on the service plans, which is why it is believed that they will never offer the phone without a contract.

BTW, here's the latest specs & requirements

http//www.macrumors.com/2007/06/08/apples-iphone-specs-and-requirements/

As nice as they are and as much as I'd like to get one, I will not buy a closed platform that does not allow 3rd party and custom development.

Jams44

08-06-2007 20:29:34

speaking of open to third parties have you seen the V8 I think it is, ya the moto RAZR 2 v8 will be a linux/java based model. expect tons of hax0rz and apps -

http/" alt=""/img.gsmarena.com/w/newsimg="/07/05/moto-razr2/gsmarena_001.jpg[" alt=""/img20f7814a7d]
it look sexy too

chrome89k

08-06-2007 21:30:31

yea that is a pretty awesome fone....

its not itunes i presume....

its just a normal media player?

michae229

11-06-2007 14:32:16

if anyone is looking to get an iphone i suggest reading this.

Chris

11-06-2007 14:37:26

[quotebeac91b1c3="michae229"]if anyone is looking to get an iphone i suggest reading this.[/quotebeac91b1c3]

Missing link?

michae229

11-06-2007 16:25:43

[quote9cd39bdcc3="Chris"][quote9cd39bdcc3="michae229"]if anyone is looking to get an iphone i suggest reading this.[/quote9cd39bdcc3]

Missing link?[/quote9cd39bdcc3]

oops

http//www.forbes.com/home/wireless/2007/06/08/iphone-problems-apple-tech-wireless-cx_df_0611iphonemain.html

Bentley

11-06-2007 16:54:50

[quotebc54927b07="michae229"][quotebc54927b07="Chris"][quotebc54927b07="michae229"]if anyone is looking to get an iphone i suggest reading this.[/quotebc54927b07]

Missing link?[/quotebc54927b07]

oops

http//www.forbes.com/home/wireless/2007/06/08/iphone-problems-apple-tech-wireless-cx_df_0611iphonemain.html[/quotebc54927b07]

That article stopped me in my tracks

chrome89k

11-06-2007 18:22:41

[quote717a647bd5="Bentley"][quote717a647bd5="michae229"][quote717a647bd5="Chris"][quote717a647bd5="michae229"]if anyone is looking to get an iphone i suggest reading this.[/quote717a647bd5]

Missing link?[/quote717a647bd5]

oops

http//www.forbes.com/home/wireless/2007/06/08/iphone-problems-apple-tech-wireless-cx_df_0611iphonemain.html[/quote717a647bd5]

That article stopped me in my tracks[/quote717a647bd5]

'(

michae229

11-06-2007 18:49:36

[quote763e36b6dc="Bentley"][quote763e36b6dc="michae229"][quote763e36b6dc="Chris"][quote763e36b6dc="michae229"]if anyone is looking to get an iphone i suggest reading this.[/quote763e36b6dc]

Missing link?[/quote763e36b6dc]

oops

http//www.forbes.com/home/wireless/2007/06/08/iphone-problems-apple-tech-wireless-cx_df_0611iphonemain.html[/quote763e36b6dc]

That article stopped me in my tracks[/quote763e36b6dc]

the battery issue will be a big turn off and the data plan.

chrome89k

11-06-2007 19:45:50

all these things are coming out even before the damn thing is available to the consumer... i'll just wait and see for myself...

but yea... battery will definitely be an issue... just like the sidekick III... it's all a matter of whether or not the consumer will be willing to make pit stops for recharging... i keep my sidekick III charging whenever i am not using it... yes i know charging so much is not good for the battery life, but i just have to ... even charging the normal way by waiting for the battery to completely die was a pain in the ass because it ran out so quick that way also...

if i can do it with my SK III, i can do it with an iphone... i'm just more worried about the damn thing having internal errors, with programs and such

michae229

11-06-2007 21:15:28

[quotea05239c692="chrome89k"]all these things are coming out even before the damn thing is available to the consumer... i'll just wait and see for myself...

but yea... battery will definitely be an issue... just like the sidekick III... it's all a matter of whether or not the consumer will be willing to make pit stops for recharging... i keep my sidekick III charging whenever i am not using it... yes i know charging so much is not good for the battery life, but i just have to ... even charging the normal way by waiting for the battery to completely die was a pain in the ass because it ran out so quick that way also...

if i can do it with my SK III, i can do it with an iphone... i'm just more worried about the damn thing having internal errors, with programs and such[/quotea05239c692]

good luck the iphone will be an energy hog i will give it a month and some change for people to start bitching. The Side kick 3 has a smaller screen and a light up keypad thats it the iphone has a huge screen and wifi. well i guess it doesn't matter buy the time the battery is gone you will renew you contract.

chrome89k

11-06-2007 21:17:20

idk... we all have different ideas... lets just see on the 29th til whenever ... how it plays out

Tholek

11-06-2007 21:29:32

Aside from OC, what other major network has started a site for one?

GCY

11-06-2007 22:07:50

I wonder how they will sell them in the apple store if it requires a contract. ?

Bentley

11-06-2007 22:20:44

[quote78c4a09c0b="chrome89k"]all these things are coming out even before the damn thing is available to the consumer... i'll just wait and see for myself...

but yea... battery will definitely be an issue... just like the sidekick III... it's all a matter of whether or not the consumer will be willing to make pit stops for recharging... i keep my sidekick III charging whenever i am not using it... yes i know charging so much is not good for the battery life, but i just have to ... even charging the normal way by waiting for the battery to completely die was a pain in the ass because it ran out so quick that way also...

if i can do it with my SK III, i can do it with an iphone... i'm just more worried about the damn thing having internal errors, with programs and such[/quote78c4a09c0b]

I was being sarcastic in my post before. Their just preaching to the choire (sp?). Im also using a SK 3 and I have no problem charging it everyday. The iPhone is going to change the phone market. <--- with a period

chrome89k

12-06-2007 03:22:28

WORD! to that... everyone who can appreciate any Sidekick and its need to charge, and oversee it for just a good phone, is probably going to be ok with the iphone... i know going from my old motorola to the skIII was a big jump and a pain in the ass at first because i had to charge alot more, but i got used to it.... and WHO doesnt like being able to surf the internet while standing in a grocery line )

dmorris68

12-06-2007 06:11:11

People need to stop judging smartphone battery life in comparison to regular cell phones. I use my smartphone all through the day for a variety of tasks. I have to charge it about every other day, compared to once a week for my last regular cellphone. It's not a big deal considering it does a helluva lot more. As long as it lasts through the day, I don't really care if I have to plug it up every night. You can't expect the features you get from a smartphone with the battery life of a regular cellphone, especially when the formfactor is similar.

Now I liwouldli have a problem with a sealed battery that has a relatively short lifetime. With my smartphone (Cingular 8125) I can replace the battery like any other cellphone, and can even add a bigger, higher capacity battery but it changes the formfactor.

But again, my major problem with iPhone right now is it's closed architecture.

chrome89k

12-06-2007 12:43:03

[quoteada29c366a="dmorris68"]People need to stop judging smartphone battery life in comparison to regular cell phones. I use my smartphone all through the day for a variety of tasks. I have to charge it about every other day, compared to once a week for my last regular cellphone. It's not a big deal considering it does a helluva lot more. As long as it lasts through the day, I don't really care if I have to plug it up every night. You can't expect the features you get from a smartphone with the battery life of a regular cellphone, especially when the formfactor is similar.

Now I liwouldli have a problem with a sealed battery that has a relatively short lifetime. With my smartphone (Cingular 8125) I can replace the battery like any other cellphone, and can even add a bigger, higher capacity battery but it changes the formfactor.

But again, my major problem with iPhone right now is it's closed architecture.[/quoteada29c366a]

WOW... wut phone lasts a week!

and yes... enclosed batteries r a turnoff

Bentley

12-06-2007 13:31:40

[quote8855ae7279="chrome89k"][quote8855ae7279="dmorris68"]People need to stop judging smartphone battery life in comparison to regular cell phones. I use my smartphone all through the day for a variety of tasks. I have to charge it about every other day, compared to once a week for my last regular cellphone. It's not a big deal considering it does a helluva lot more. As long as it lasts through the day, I don't really care if I have to plug it up every night. You can't expect the features you get from a smartphone with the battery life of a regular cellphone, especially when the formfactor is similar.

Now I liwouldli have a problem with a sealed battery that has a relatively short lifetime. With my smartphone (Cingular 8125) I can replace the battery like any other cellphone, and can even add a bigger, higher capacity battery but it changes the formfactor.

But again, my major problem with iPhone right now is it's closed architecture.[/quote8855ae7279]

WOW... wut phone lasts a week!

and yes... enclosed batteries r a turnoff[/quote8855ae7279]

Pretty much any of those flip phones. I have some cheap motorola along with my SK 3 and I can go 5 days w/o charging that piece.

chrome89k

12-06-2007 16:40:50

i have a slvr l7 that goes along with my sk 3... it lasts about 3 days max... maybe 2... but i also play itunes with it... so i cant complain

Chris

13-06-2007 00:19:06

Apple has removed the "Use requires 2 year activation plan” disclaimer at the end of the iPhone videos. shrug

NYUDiana

16-06-2007 06:58:43

I really wanted one, and even had a certain special boy offer to buy it for me as a birthday present... but now that there are so many bad reviews, I'm discouraged. (

[b4152541267]Unlocked
4GB = $825.50
8GB = $945.50[/b4152541267]

http//www.negrielectronics.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=48

That site is selling unlocked iPhones, but on the bottom it says

liThe iPhone is Unlockable. You will get an Unlocked iPhone with this purchase. Time of shipment is determined by unlockablility when the item is released.

ha! they promise the shipping date will be whenever the heck they figure out how to unlock the phones! Not to mention that this site is a total unknown and might just be making everything up. lol.

chrome89k

16-06-2007 08:18:52

holy crap... whered u get those prices?

dmorris68

18-06-2007 14:09:15

http//www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/06/18/iphone.battery.ap/index.html

(emphasis mine)

[quotebb6e574c40="CNN"]CUPERTINO, California (AP) -- Apple Inc. says its highly anticipated iPhone will have a battery life that supports 8 hours of talk time.

[bbb6e574c40]The company said Monday the battery also supports 7 hours of video playback, 6 hours of Internet use, 24 hours of music playback, and it will feature up to 10 days of standby time before requiring a recharge.[/bbb6e574c40]

When the phone was unveiled in January, Apple said it would support 9 days of standby time.

In another change, the iPhone's touch-sensitive screen will be made out of optical-quality glass, instead of plastic. Apple CEO Steve Jobs said the change will create "superior scratch resistance and clarity."

The combo cell phone, media player and wireless Web device will only be sold at stores owned by Apple Inc. and AT&T Inc., which has an exclusive deal to offer service for the device when it goes on sale in the U.S. on June 29.

It will also be available at Apple's Web site.

The iPhone will be available in two configurations, $499 for a 4 gigabyte model and $599 for one with 8 gigabytes of storage.

[/quotebb6e574c40]
I'll wait to hear real-world results, but if they're even close that's pretty impressive. I also like the glass screen, but woe be unto you if you drop it. And as physically slippery as it looks (and if it's anything like my 80GB iPod Video) it'll need an attached skin/case/cover to hold onto it.

On the application front, Apple has relented to the point of allowing 3rd party apps that run via Safari (I'm assuming through some sort of VM, although Java wasn't mentioned). Still not good enough for me since browser-based apps are often not feasible, but it's a step in the right direction. Give me a stand-alone JVM and then I'll be over an iPhone.

Chris

18-06-2007 22:00:12

http//images.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/competitivedatachart2.jpg[" alt=""/imgaae60325a6]

Quite impressive.

Bill

18-06-2007 22:05:47

Now all they have to do is make a press release announcing an upgrade to 8GB and 16GB and I'll be sold

ajasax

18-06-2007 22:16:39

Ha! They neglected to include the Motorola Q (which I'll be getting along with the SERO plan this week D).

Specs
• [b59b94aab02]11.5mm[/b59b94aab02] thick
• 2.4-inch screen
• 4 hours talk time (extended battery available)

They also didn't include the weight
iPhone 135 grams
Q 115 grams

I'm thinking it will have the weight/feel of a 30GB 5G iPod (almost exactly the same weight). Although the weight may be nit-picky, you have to remember where this device will be stored in your pocket; unlike an iPod which is usually kept in a backpack, purse, etc.

I will probably go the local Apple store to check it out on release date (that is, if the Apple fanboys haven't already drooled all over it). I love the idea of a touchscreen on a phone. I just watched a commercial simulating typing on the on-screen keyboard, and it looks like it can be cumbersome since they have to fit a full QWERTY keyboard onto a 320px wide screen.

Although, I [i59b94aab02]do[/i59b94aab02] give props to Apple for yet again creating a classy product.

dmorris68

19-06-2007 07:33:24

[quoteb79cd8c88b="Bill"]Now all they have to do is make a press release announcing an upgrade to 8GB and 16GB and I'll be sold[/quoteb79cd8c88b]
It already comes in 8GB.

4GB = $499
8GB = $599

16GB would be nice, but since I wouldn't look at this as my primary media player, 8GB is plenty. My current PDA/phone has 64MB internal plus a 2GB SD card, so even the 4GB model would be quite the upgrade for me.

Assuming they release a JVM or an SDK, that is...

chrome89k

19-06-2007 07:51:07

your going to buy it?

dmorris68

19-06-2007 07:55:50

[quote2de2e4f390="chrome89k"]your going to buy it?[/quote2de2e4f390]
Me? No, not until they release better 3rd party development support.

I was all over it when it was announced, until I discovered that major drawback. Rumor has it they are just wanting the release to go smooth and not be hindered by "poorly written applications" that give the iPhone a bad name. Supposedly they will eventually release the SDK (which I hope leads to a JVM).

chrome89k

19-06-2007 07:58:38

what's an sdk?

AND... would you buy it if there are nothing but good reviews for it after it has been out for a little while

what if the applications are fine

dmorris68

19-06-2007 08:16:35

[quote3a1e45dd01="chrome89k"]what's an sdk?

AND... would you buy it if there are nothing but good reviews for it after it has been out for a little while

what if the applications are fine[/quote3a1e45dd01]
SDK = Software Development Kit

No, as long as there is a lack of 3rd party development, I wouldn't buy it regardless of reviews, which I predict will be favorable. Apple generally makes pretty good hardware, I'll give them that.

The applications may be fine, but they're minimal. If I'm carrying the equivalent of a PC (or in this case, a Mac), especially for the money paid, I better be able to develop my own applications or at least buy/download them from others. I have several 3rd party applications on my current PDA/phone and would demand to be able to continue that trend with my next one.

Lots of folks are saying that if the iPhone fails, it will be due to lack of an SDK before anything else. Particularly among the "geek" market where it is obviously aimed. Not too many non-geeks will spend $600 on what they would equate to a phone with iPod capability. Just look at the failure of the Motorola w/ iTunes phones to sell very well, and they were half the cost. The geek/gadget crowd is always the first to adopt an expensive product like this, and if you don't get that buy-in up front, there's a good chance you won't make it. Especially when there are companies like LG and Nokia and Samsung waiting in the wings to knock off the iPhone, and they have very good developer programs. This line of reasoning is also behind the speculation that Apple liwillli ultimately release an SDK to keep the iPhone alive.

chrome89k

19-06-2007 10:12:13

what exactly do you do with the phone that you need that SDK...

for someone like me who just likes to listen to music and use a phone... you think i will like it... ?

i dont really use it in replacement of my PC

ajasax

19-06-2007 10:16:17

Yes, if you are just using it as a portable music player/cell phone, you're fine. What many (geeks) like to do with devices like these is run other software (i.e. OSX) on them. This opens up a world of opportunities. You will then be able to change the themes (GUI), run emulators, etc. It's for the more [i831bb8587e]technologically[/i831bb8587e] advanced wink

good2speed

19-06-2007 10:30:14

I am beginning to think the iphone wont take off as much as it is hyped and not because of the lack of an SDK. If the PS3 has failed to attract demand at the price of $600 then I fail to see how the iphone will do so especially with the requirement of a 2 year service paln. If parents and young buyers pulled back from buying the ps3 in droves then I dont see the iphone taking off.

The ps3 and iphone may have different marketing agendas however. The ps3 is looking to dominate the makret while the iphone is trying to gain a small foothold (10% at most).

The iphone seems to be more of a trendy device used by celebs and such. I see at as more of a status device more then anything else.

The iphone's target market will be young people as I hardly see anyone over the age of 35 desperately needing an iphone. Parents will most likely balk at the price tag and will convince there dependant children to select a more moderately priced phone (sony w810). The 20's market will be divided on the phone and only the 20 somethings with disposable income will even think about buying the product.

The only way I can see this product flying is by a brilliant persistant advertising campaign coupled with outrageous first day sales. If the product struggles initially I see it losing its hype. Customers will eventually deem it unnecessary.

dmorris68

19-06-2007 11:12:56

PS3 would have done much better IMO if not for the availability snafu. Plus Sony made some major marketing & technical blunders that dampened its impact, something Apple isn't as likely to do. Then you have the Wii factor to consider on top of it, a well established 360 foothold with a lot of life still left in it, etc.

iPhone is more targeted at convergence of phone and media player, which I'd say nowadays is a pretty hot market. Especially among the demographic that Apple targets.

My Cingular 8125 when new was almost $400 with a contract, and that was with my company discount. And they sold like hotcakes, as is the followup 8525 that costs nearly $100 more. So yeah I think there's a market for the iPhone at the price, IF they relax the restrictions on it so that people can have choice and flexibility as to what they do with it. And there are plenty of 30 & 40-somethings in a better position to buy them compared to the younger demographic. We are more financially stable and those of us who are into technology don't mind paying for something that attracts us.

I read something awhile back about the demographics of video gamers. The leading demographic in this study was I believe 30-40 year old males, who could afford the gaming PC's, consoles, and games much easier than the younger folks who are often stereotyped as the majority demographic. And parents buying for their kids weren't a significant part of that older demographic either. Most parents, outside the small minority that would be wealthy, will not routinely spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on technology for their children if they themselves didn't have some interest in it. I know my kids had most of the latest gaming consoles, since the original NES, only because I was interested in them as well. ;)

chrome89k

19-06-2007 12:31:33

[quote797f908143="ajasax"]Yes, if you are just using it as a portable music player/cell phone, you're fine. What many (geeks) like to do with devices like these is run other software (i.e. OSX) on them. This opens up a world of opportunities. You will then be able to change the themes (GUI), run emulators, etc. It's for the more [i797f908143]technologically[/i797f908143] advanced wink[/quote797f908143]

what is osx... AND... WOW to the emulators...

i need to train in the art of being technologically advanced ))))

ajasax

19-06-2007 13:29:36

OSX is just and operating system by Apple. I heard somewhere that the processor inside the iPhone will enable ppl. to run it. As for emulators, nearly every handheld device has an audience for emulators. I.E. the Motorola Q already has an NES emulator for it )

chrome89k

19-06-2007 13:50:35

thats still awesome...

bring back fondness of wanting to buy a DS

blinkrebels

19-06-2007 17:44:19

yeah, i feel the same way about the 3rd party apps. if my old palm couldnt do 3rd party apps, it would have just been a crappy touch screen notepad with a 2mp camera.

i really wanna see how everything outside of the media player functions.

and since its not using 3g, i wanna see how that works as well.

however, if theres a freebie site that comes out, im pretty sure im just gonna it for the hell of it, and get the phone.

michae229

19-06-2007 19:00:48

I'm telling you guys don't get an iphone use the popularity for a deal on your current plan. I called on Sunday and upgraded my plan to free high speed internet on my line.Use this to get a cheaper bill i pay 190 for 4 phones with 2 having high speed internet and one with 500 texts and the other with a free 300 text a month with 3000 minutes.

blinkrebels

19-06-2007 19:02:19

why the hell do you need 4 phones?

chrome89k

19-06-2007 19:03:02

lmao... i thought my two was alot... haha )))

michae229

19-06-2007 20:14:37

LMAO its a family plan

xyclonez

19-06-2007 21:00:23

[quote3085c9a566="dmorris68"][quote3085c9a566="shortys408"]treo > iphone[/quote3085c9a566]
HTC Wizard (and it's carrier variants like Cingular 8125/8525) > treo P[/quote3085c9a566]

so true

michae229

19-06-2007 21:16:15

[quotece17d028b8="xyclonez"][quotece17d028b8="dmorris68"][quotece17d028b8="shortys408"]treo > iphone[/quotece17d028b8]
HTC Wizard (and it's carrier variants like Cingular 8125/8525) > treo P[/quotece17d028b8]

so true[/quotece17d028b8]

i think treo is better they have better battery life i just had a ppc 6700 which i think is made by HTC and the batter life is so crappy.

chrome89k

19-06-2007 21:18:34

i just wanna have ALOT of music on my phone... all i care about.... )

Bentley

19-06-2007 22:52:27

[quote18334e98c5="michae229"]I'm telling you guys don't get an iphone use the popularity for a deal on your current plan. I called on Sunday and upgraded my plan to free high speed internet on my line.Use this to get a cheaper bill i pay 190 for 4 phones with 2 having high speed internet and one with 500 texts and the other with a free 300 text a month with 3000 minutes.[/quote18334e98c5]

Am I the only one who thinks this made no sense at all? Still I'm getting the iPhone regardless.

michae229

19-06-2007 23:25:33

[quotea9d6fded2f="Bentley"][quotea9d6fded2f="michae229"]I'm telling you guys don't get an iphone use the popularity for a deal on your current plan. I called on Sunday and upgraded my plan to free high speed internet on my line.Use this to get a cheaper bill i pay 190 for 4 phones with 2 having high speed internet and one with 500 texts and the other with a free 300 text a month with 3000 minutes.[/quotea9d6fded2f]

Am I the only one who thinks this made no sense at all? Still I'm getting the iPhone regardless.[/quotea9d6fded2f]

yea you are the only one that didn't get it

Jams44

20-06-2007 07:02:32

God, regardless of what people say I am an stubborn ass. For some reason I am just enticed by it. I know pretty much for a fact they will have a newer version by Christmas but I am just so eager to see it

michae229

20-06-2007 08:01:07

[quotec630aacadc="Jams44"]God, regardless of what people say I am an stubborn ass. For some reason I am just enticed by it. I know pretty much for a fact they will have a newer version by Christmas but I am just so eager to see it[/quotec630aacadc]

yea don't get me wrong its a nice phone but remember the razor was 500 when it first came out and look at it now its a crap startup phone they give for free.

aviendha47

25-06-2007 19:54:33

A little news about the hype

http//www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2526094220070625

chrome89k

25-06-2007 20:08:57

bunch of haters i think... just let it be a phone... all these critics making comments about the phone are crazy...
1. people should stop hyping it up... they are setting themselves up for disappointment.. just like when you anticipate too much from a movie, before it comes out, you are disappointed with a good movie after you watch it
2. nobody knows how it is going to turn out
3. we already settled that the more computer affluent are going to be disappointed, but for people like me, all i need is some music and phone and browser

amen

ffactoryxx

25-06-2007 20:13:33

I might use this to get some good retention plans on my curent service

chrome89k

25-06-2007 20:16:52

michae229

25-06-2007 21:36:57

now that i here the phone last 8 hours it will probably be the best phone on the market

chrome89k

25-06-2007 21:41:08

there u go ...

props

theysayjump

26-06-2007 11:22:55

Data rates for the iPhone

http//www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html[]http//www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html

Powerbook

26-06-2007 11:29:26

after seeing the plans, i am definitely getting one D

tracemhunter

26-06-2007 11:45:51

so basically it will be an extra $20/mo since i am with at&t already. if only they could make the keyboard go into landscape mode while texting. it's going to suck if you can't use both thumbs. i was going to get on on friday but have decided to wait for reviews to come out.

dmorris68

26-06-2007 18:19:22

Nice data plan price. If only the iPhone was open to app developers, I'd spring for the phone and the extra $20 for the data plan. Hopefully they'll get their head out of their arse and release an SDK soon, and 3rd party apps will appear. Things like PocketQuicken and TomTom or iGuidance would be must haves, not to mention my own code. I can't afford to give those up, so will stick with my 8125 for awhile longer.

theysayjump

26-06-2007 18:52:09

I don't see why they'd not open it up to 3rd party apps. I would assume they're just waiting to get over the initial storm, then maybe release an update to work out the kinks people find and boom, SDK time.

I'd love to have one but I'll likely wait until version 2.

The $20 extra a month for it is a lot less than I expected to fork out for it.

tjwor

26-06-2007 20:37:37

i watched the big "how to" video on the ipod at apple.com, and when they went through the ring tone part it didn't look like there was any way to put your own music as a ring tone... that would be a really stupid thing if you ask me...

Jams44

26-06-2007 20:39:56

okay so i decided im going to fork out the cash. i get a 30% rebate on handsets (mom at AT&T) so thats quite the relief and then I get 19% off the plan for the same reason. I'm thinking about photographing my adventure to get one, im just going to plan on waiting in line on friday!

chrome89k

26-06-2007 20:44:03

im going to wait two weeks.. my friend is getting a job at AT&T... i get the discount as well...

phone is going to be sick...

)

Jams44

26-06-2007 21:17:38

god damn i dont think i can sleep. what time do you think i should get to the store? think 2pm will be sufficient?

doylnea

26-06-2007 21:23:47

[quote1050d753b2="Jams44"]god damn i dont think i can sleep. what time do you think i should get to the store? think 2pm will be sufficient?[/quote1050d753b2]

There are people camped in NYC already.

chrome89k

26-06-2007 21:26:51

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!....

where did you find that out...

i dont believe that

do you think it will be sold out FOREVER... kinda like a hot gaming system lol

michae229

26-06-2007 21:40:41

[quote2a34218c8f="chrome89k"]ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!....

where did you find that out...

i dont believe that

do you think it will be sold out FOREVER... kinda like a hot gaming system lol[/quote2a34218c8f]

i think so remember when the 4th gen ipods were hard to find for like 3 months back when freepay was big.`

chrome89k

26-06-2007 22:37:05

lol... i wasnt around for freepay... BUT!! i hope i can get my hands on one...

hopefully knowing someone who works at a store will help... but first come first serve customers get the phones over the employees

cubbieco

26-06-2007 23:01:01

[quotea00bc5e5a7="theysayjump"]Data rates for the iPhone

http//www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html[]http//www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html[/quotea00bc5e5a7]

I know this is an AT&T thing and not an iphone thing, but why in the world do you have UNLIMITED data and only 200 text messages? Why aren't text messages free? They sure don't cost the phone companies anything. So I can check my email and download attachments all I want, but I have to be careful how many two line messages I type.

/rant

Gigante

27-06-2007 06:32:41

[quote0771454bf5="cubbieco"][quote0771454bf5="theysayjump"]Data rates for the iPhone

http//www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html[]http//www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html[/quote0771454bf5]

I know this is an AT&T thing and not an iphone thing, but why in the world do you have UNLIMITED data and only 200 text messages? Why aren't text messages free? They sure don't cost the phone companies anything. So I can check my email and download attachments all I want, but I have to be careful how many two line messages I type.

/rant[/quote0771454bf5]

I noticed this too and let out a little giggle.

Jams44

27-06-2007 07:41:51

because sms messages are cross carrier and that somehow gives a reason to suck you out of money )

Jams44

27-06-2007 07:43:58

Alright so I got some details sorted out that I was concerned about. You purchase the phone and then bring it home and activate it along with your plan on iTunes. That is if you buy it at the apple store else its just like any other phone. The phone is available to those with current plans it just obviously requires an upgrade. I was just nervous that I was going to have to get an all new number which would suck but I don't!

Kidd

27-06-2007 07:49:02

[quote026cec341f="doylnea"][quote026cec341f="Jams44"]god damn i dont think i can sleep. what time do you think i should get to the store? think 2pm will be sufficient?[/quote026cec341f]

There are people camped in NYC already.[/quote026cec341f]

a couple of att stores have been camped out since tuesdays some even monday.

if u check out craigslist ppl are offering ppl 100 bux to camp in line for them.

doylnea

27-06-2007 07:50:04

There's a really thorough review by Mossberg in the WSJ this morning if anyone is interested. It's a fairly positive review. If you find the print version there's also a cute Q&A between Jobs and Mossberg.

Jams44

27-06-2007 08:38:32

Mossberg kind of contradicts himself like he was trying to make a point about the keyboard and then suddenly something "changed his opinion. He says by the 5th day its a non-issue. But what about the first 4 days. Not a big fan of him but he did give it some praises (I watched his online video).

aviendha47

29-06-2007 04:01:17

It's Friday, anyone get one? How cool is it?

Jams44

29-06-2007 06:03:22

it comes out at 6pm, read the thread. as for me im packing up some lunch items and getting ready to pick up my friends!

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 07:55:55

It really pisses me off how AT&T and Apple are in bed together. Why can't the iPhone be just like any other GSM phone out there? Whichever wireless network can adapt to iPhone's features wins the customers. I despise AT&T for their practices and how they keep changing their name. Just to get the visual voicemail you have to get their bottom of the line data plan ($20 bucks a month for two years), ridiculous. I really like phones without actual buttons on them and the iPhone is the hottest one out there but AT&T's voice/data plan and monopolistic ideas is enough to drive people away from the iPhone. I am going to get one and see if it can be unlocked.

doylnea

29-06-2007 08:27:18

[quote5d34114eba="UniPrize Media"]It really pisses me off how AT&T and Apple are in bed together. Why can't the iPhone be just like any other GSM phone out there? Whichever wireless network can adapt to iPhone's features wins the customers. I despise AT&T for their practices and how they keep changing their name. Just to get the visual voicemail you have to get their bottom of the line data plan ($20 bucks a month for two years), ridiculous. I really like phones without actual buttons on them and the iPhone is the hottest one out there but AT&T's voice/data plan and monopolistic ideas is enough to drive people away from the iPhone. I am going to get one and see if it can be unlocked.[/quote5d34114eba]

Apple approached AT&T because they're the largest carrier in the US.

Powerbook

29-06-2007 08:32:17

I find at&t to be very reliable. Verizon tried ripping us off here so many times. I guess it really does depend on your opinion.

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 08:40:39

[quote4ff711dc9a="doylnea"][quote4ff711dc9a="UniPrize Media"]It really pisses me off how AT&T and Apple are in bed together. Why can't the iPhone be just like any other GSM phone out there? Whichever wireless network can adapt to iPhone's features wins the customers. I despise AT&T for their practices and how they keep changing their name. Just to get the visual voicemail you have to get their bottom of the line data plan ($20 bucks a month for two years), ridiculous. I really like phones without actual buttons on them and the iPhone is the hottest one out there but AT&T's voice/data plan and monopolistic ideas is enough to drive people away from the iPhone. I am going to get one and see if it can be unlocked.[/quote4ff711dc9a]

Apple approached AT&T because they're the largest carrier in the US.[/quote4ff711dc9a]

I think I read somewhere that Tmobile said no to Apple and that is when they went to AT&T. There is already a line of about 150 lunatics at my local Apple store.

Here is a quote from the blog of the first dude at the NY apple store. I thought it was pretty funny but the guy is kind of clever for doing his bc. all of the exposure he is getting.
[quote4ff711dc9a]
My name is Greg Packer. I’m a completely talentless piece of shit with the social skills of a chimpanzee. Im waiting first in line for iPhone in New York City at Apple Store Fifth Avenue near Central Park. I showed up on Monday morning, June 25th, at 5am becuase I have zero friends, zero life and I’m hoping to get beaten to death by a female bum

Please reach out to me by leaving your comments, leaving me a note on MySpace, sending me an email (in fact why not sign me up to every gay porn site in america), or even calling my mobile phone while I am sitting in line. I must be the biggest cockbag in creation for giving my number away online but what-the-heck !!!

Or, hey, come by, just visit and abuse me face to face!

email= email=grego11743@hotmail.comgrego11743@hotmail.com email=grego11743@hotmail.comgrego11743@hotmail.com/email

Mobile phone 631.291.2603

My Space Greggoes (Yeah - go look at all my sexy girl-friends who I have absolutely NO chance of dating because I am such a fat ugly fucker !!! )

Want to help make my experience sitting in line more comfortable?

Fucking come down and abuse me!!!

Thank you to the iPhoneDevCamp guys - Associating yourself with me is gonna totally fuck you all up beyond belief !!!

Also, please check out my new gay techno nerd friend, David Clayman, who is documenting his experience on his own blog, entitled www.im.a.sad.lonely.cnt.com

He’s third in line!
Im a turd in line![/quote4ff711dc9a]

Jams44

29-06-2007 08:43:32

[quote030f145321="UniPrize Media"]I despise AT&T for their practices and how they keep changing their name.[/quote030f145321]

What are their practices that you so despise? You can;t just hate a company because they offer something yours doesn't )

[quote030f145321="UniPrize Media"]I am going to get one and see if it can be unlocked.[/quote030f145321]

Try again. My mom just had a meeting regarding that, don't plan on doing that anytime soon. The phone itself will refuse to work unless connected on the AT&T/Edge network. And you are a hypocrite, you say all this trash about the two companies yet you plan on purchasing one. Do me a favor and save one for someone who wants it.

ajasax

29-06-2007 09:16:16

Sprint SERO + Apple iPhone = teh win

Kidd

29-06-2007 09:21:15

check out new york magazine they had which stores would be getting the most and which would release the phones the quickiest.

one store said they would beging to sell the phones before 6 pm.

is that even legal?

theysayjump

29-06-2007 09:41:37

There are rumours that there will be a 3G iPhone announced for Europe on Monday, so if you're going to get an iPhone I'd wait until Monday to find out if it's true or not.

If it is true, waiting for version 2 would be a wise choice.

tracemhunter

29-06-2007 10:12:39

Apple chose AT&T because they are the largest carrier. Hell, I don't know of anyone that that doesn't use AT&T. Their plans are cheap, they are reliable, and offer good deals on phones.

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 10:12:48

[quote42982d2212="Jams44"][quote42982d2212="UniPrize Media"]I despise AT&T for their practices and how they keep changing their name.[/quote42982d2212]

What are their practices that you so despise? You can;t just hate a company because they offer something yours doesn't )

[quote42982d2212="UniPrize Media"]I am going to get one and see if it can be unlocked.[/quote42982d2212]

Try again. My mom just had a meeting regarding that, don't plan on doing that anytime soon. The phone itself will refuse to work unless connected on the AT&T/Edge network. And you are a hypocrite, you say all this trash about the two companies yet you plan on purchasing one. Do me a favor and save one for someone who wants it.[/quote42982d2212]

What are you talking about??? Why would I get a phone I don't like plus go through all the troubles to unlock it??? Read my post again!

Quote from me "I really like phones without actual buttons on them and the iPhone is the hottest one out there" which translates to I really like this phone!!! Don't be so quick to judge, kid. Just because I don't like their partnership doesn't mean I don't like the iPhone. About the iPhone being unlocked, it will be unlocked. It's not impossible. Plus this site http//www.puremobile.com/Apple/Apple-iPhone-Black-GSM-Phone/ is already selling them!

About AT&T

To start off, their pricing sucks big time! Go ahead and compare for yourself. Calls drop all the time. How do I know? Because I HAVE AT&T wireless - formerly Cingular which was formerly AT&T wireless. Go ahead and try to surf on their data plan and you will start to pull out your hair.

Here is also an image of what they have done.

http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Newatt.gif[" alt=""/img42982d2212]

Does your mom work for AT&T? If so I despise her too 8)

turbohim

29-06-2007 10:20:32

my opinion anyone who gets version 1 of a phone/electronic is wasting their money (ie. xbox 360).

theysayjump

29-06-2007 10:21:11

[quote10128c982f="UniPrize Media"][quote10128c982f="Jams44"][quote10128c982f="UniPrize Media"]I despise AT&T for their practices and how they keep changing their name.[/quote10128c982f]

What are their practices that you so despise? You can;t just hate a company because they offer something yours doesn't )

[quote10128c982f="UniPrize Media"]I am going to get one and see if it can be unlocked.[/quote10128c982f]

Try again. My mom just had a meeting regarding that, don't plan on doing that anytime soon. The phone itself will refuse to work unless connected on the AT&T/Edge network. And you are a hypocrite, you say all this trash about the two companies yet you plan on purchasing one. Do me a favor and save one for someone who wants it.[/quote10128c982f]

What are you talking about??? Why would I get a phone I don't like plus go through all the troubles to unlock it??? Read my post again!

Quote from me "I really like phones without actual buttons on them and the iPhone is the hottest one out there" which translates to I really like this phone!!! Don't be so quick to judge, kid. Just because I don't like their partnership doesn't mean I don't like the iPhone. About the iPhone being unlocked, it will be unlocked. It's not impossible. Plus this site http//www.puremobile.com/Apple/Apple-iPhone-Black-GSM-Phone/ is already selling them!

About AT&T

To start off, their pricing sucks big time! Go ahead and compare for yourself. Calls drop all the time. How do I know? Because I HAVE AT&T wireless - formerly Cingular which was formerly AT&T wireless. Go ahead and try to surf on their data plan and you will start to pull out your hair.

Here is also an image of what they have done.

http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Newatt.gif[" alt=""/img10128c982f][/quote10128c982f]

I have Cingular/AT&T also and I don't even get dropped calls at my place of work (think of the retail version of a cave) or when it storms, going through tunnels etc. I've had maybe two dropped calls and those were placed in the cave during a really bad storm.

Other people at my work trying to get a reception in the cave can't and they're all with other carriers.

Also, their prices are pretty fucking good. You're already a customer so as soon as you get the phone, all it'll cost you is an extra $20 per month to use it. If you think of what the iPhone can do, $20 is a great deal.

Going from my current phone (Sony Ericsson W810i) to an iPhone for an extra $20 a month is pretty nice I think.

Powerbook

29-06-2007 10:21:57

My xbox 360 is fine. That's not true at all....

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 10:45:51

[quote7e67ea44bb="theysayjump"][quote7e67ea44bb="UniPrize Media"][quote7e67ea44bb="Jams44"][quote7e67ea44bb="UniPrize Media"]I despise AT&T for their practices and how they keep changing their name.[/quote7e67ea44bb]

What are their practices that you so despise? You can;t just hate a company because they offer something yours doesn't )

[quote7e67ea44bb="UniPrize Media"]I am going to get one and see if it can be unlocked.[/quote7e67ea44bb]

Try again. My mom just had a meeting regarding that, don't plan on doing that anytime soon. The phone itself will refuse to work unless connected on the AT&T/Edge network. And you are a hypocrite, you say all this trash about the two companies yet you plan on purchasing one. Do me a favor and save one for someone who wants it.[/quote7e67ea44bb]

What are you talking about??? Why would I get a phone I don't like plus go through all the troubles to unlock it??? Read my post again!

Quote from me "I really like phones without actual buttons on them and the iPhone is the hottest one out there" which translates to I really like this phone!!! Don't be so quick to judge, kid. Just because I don't like their partnership doesn't mean I don't like the iPhone. About the iPhone being unlocked, it will be unlocked. It's not impossible. Plus this site http//www.puremobile.com/Apple/Apple-iPhone-Black-GSM-Phone/ is already selling them!

About AT&T

To start off, their pricing sucks big time! Go ahead and compare for yourself. Calls drop all the time. How do I know? Because I HAVE AT&T wireless - formerly Cingular which was formerly AT&T wireless. Go ahead and try to surf on their data plan and you will start to pull out your hair.

Here is also an image of what they have done.

http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Newatt.gif[" alt=""/img7e67ea44bb][/quote7e67ea44bb]

I have Cingular/AT&T also and I don't even get dropped calls at my place of work (think of the retail version of a cave) or when it storms, going through tunnels etc. I've had maybe two dropped calls and those were placed in the cave during a really bad storm.

Other people at my work trying to get a reception in the cave can't and they're all with other carriers.

Also, their prices are pretty fucking good. You're already a customer so as soon as you get the phone, all it'll cost you is an extra $20 per month to use it. If you think of what the iPhone can do, $20 is a great deal.

Going from my current phone (Sony Ericsson W810i) to an iPhone for an extra $20 a month is pretty nice I think.[/quote7e67ea44bb]

I must be unlucky because my drop calls are really annoying. When I first got the service I couldn't make a call or receive calls at my University campus whenever classes are let out. The Cingular people couldn't fix it and just told me it was my phone that was having the problem (I have Ericcson P910). I think T-mobile has the best plans and was panning on switching to them as soon as my contract is over. I think 20 bucks a month is not even close to worth it for using the visual voicemail (which is cool but I am not too excited for it) and will most likely be the only thing I use out of the data plan. I had their data plan for like 2 months and didn't find any use for it. Anyways, I hope the iPhone can be unlocked soon.

tracemhunter

29-06-2007 12:51:00

Hah, I had so many problems with T-Mobile so I switched to Cingular three years ago. I have had maybe five or so dropped calls in that time period. I bought my razr two years ago and it messed up so they sent me a new one and it was at my door within a few days. Oh, and I get reception everywhere.

x323smostwantedx

29-06-2007 13:53:16

T-Mobile FTW
39.99 = 1000 minutes, unlimited nights & Weekends

ATT
39.99=450 minutes? 5000 Nights and weekends?
59.99=900 minutes? Unlimited nights and weekends

aviendha47

29-06-2007 14:24:08

[quotef8ed3331b4="Jams44"]it comes out at 6pm, read the thread. as for me im packing up some lunch items and getting ready to pick up my friends![/quotef8ed3331b4]

I did read the thread. I wasn't sure what time I was going to be back so I posted in advance. Is that a problem?

ajasax

29-06-2007 14:41:12

Wow, I'm surprised Apple hasn't sued the owners of www.iphone.com yet. They're probably waiting until after the iPhone launch, since they don't want bad publicity roll

patrick_7412

29-06-2007 16:06:14

Anyone get one yet? It's been out for an hour on east coast, central was just released. Wanted to get actual user reviews about it )

tracemhunter

29-06-2007 16:11:29

free stuff on g4 is giving them out tonight.

mcal44

29-06-2007 16:39:23

Just got my 8gb, to keep or not to keep that is the question!

wasabe

29-06-2007 16:39:52

Another ridiculous status symbol for yuppies and hipsters who need validation? No thanks.

Anybody getting rid of their old phone? I'll pay for shipping if you want to send it to me. Unlocked or ATT/Cingular preferred, but I could always take it down to Chinatown and get it unlocked.

dmorris68

29-06-2007 17:55:47

FWIW I've been with AT&T<-Cingular<-Bellsouth Mobility for, oh, about 11 years or so now. I've had great service and love them. T-Mobile and Verizon are crap around here. But different carriers seem to do better in different areas, so one person can't really generalize the quality of any carrier based only upon their own experiences.

And ALL new hit phones sign exclusive contracts with carriers when they first come out. It's like when Verizon got the RAZR first (or was it T-Mobile?). I just remember being aggravated that I couldn't buy one through my carrier, until I had the chance to actually play with one and decided I didn't like the phone much after all. Treo 750 (the first PocketPC one) was the same way. Then after 6-12 months, the contract expires and the same phones are available everywhere.

The iPhone is designed as a GSM device, and the two major carriers in the US for GSM are T-Mobile and AT&T. And I too read that T-Mobile was approached first and declined, so there really wasn't another choice. When a CDMA version is made available and/or the exclusivity contract with AT&T drops, then other carriers will have it. Then again Apple has always had sort of a unique business model when it comes to their hardware, so it's anybody's guess what will happen.

maksmom

29-06-2007 17:59:50

Just passed by the AT&T store. There was a pretty long line already. And right inside the door was a large scary looking security guard. They were letting in people one at a time to purchase the coveted iPhone. My husband works for AT&T and said there were all these stories floating around the office about people selling their xboxes, games and everything to raise $ for the new phone or some Germans who want to be the first Germans to own an iPhone and are competing against each other for the first pic taken and emailed, etc. So much hype, I just had to laugh! lol

chrome89k

29-06-2007 18:56:35

thats cute...

im going to get one in two weeks

Bentley

29-06-2007 19:33:48

Got mine today and already have my # setup when i opened up this phone it was like finding an artifact in a tomb or something.

Powerbook

29-06-2007 19:34:42

Got the iphone, it is so wonderful. I am surprised on how good the Edge speeds really are.

x323smostwantedx

29-06-2007 19:36:48

http//cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iphone-8GB-8-GB-i-phone-Mac-cell-phone-FREE-SHIP_W0QQitemZ290134220620QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64355QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Will the seller still have to pay for fees?

TFOAF

29-06-2007 19:47:02

[quoteaebdd5a162="x323smostwantedx"]http//cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iphone-8GB-8-GB-i-phone-Mac-cell-phone-FREE-SHIP_W0QQitemZ290134220620QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64355QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Will the seller still have to pay for fees?[/quoteaebdd5a162]
Wait a second...holy shit...!!! 40 bids and it's at 43 Million Dollars?!?!?!? O People are CRAZY! Nevermind. I think it's fake. Look at the usernames of the bidders. "Bidder 14", "Bidder 3", lol.

x323smostwantedx

29-06-2007 19:56:13

[quote1e12466e66="TFOAF"][quote1e12466e66="x323smostwantedx"]http//cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iphone-8GB-8-GB-i-phone-Mac-cell-phone-FREE-SHIP_W0QQitemZ290134220620QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64355QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Will the seller still have to pay for fees?[/quote1e12466e66]
Wait a second...holy shit...!!! 40 bids and it's at 43 Million Dollars?!?!?!? O People are CRAZY! Nevermind. I think it's fake. Look at the usernames of the bidders. "[b1e12466e66]Bidder 14", "Bidder 3[/b1e12466e66]", lol.[/quote1e12466e66]
That comes out when the seller puts the setting on it. But I think people are just messing with that auction

mnx12

29-06-2007 19:56:42

[quote27fa345482="TFOAF"][quote27fa345482="x323smostwantedx"]http//cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iphone-8GB-8-GB-i-phone-Mac-cell-phone-FREE-SHIP_W0QQitemZ290134220620QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64355QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Will the seller still have to pay for fees?[/quote27fa345482]
Wait a second...holy shit...!!! 40 bids and it's at 43 Million Dollars?!?!?!? O People are CRAZY! Nevermind. I think it's fake. Look at the usernames of the bidders. "Bidder 14", "Bidder 3", lol.[/quote27fa345482]Thats how ebay names all the bidders now, its a privacy thing.

Jams44

29-06-2007 20:06:31

Got my 8GB. pretty bitchin already am using it!

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 20:26:49

This phone is probably the best looking phone I have ever laid my eyes on. It's a real eye candy. Also the edge internet is actually pretty good on this thing. I have read that people are all of the sudden getting better speeds from AT&T wireless so lets hope it lasts. Other than that, I haven't went through all of the features but it seems to be a well put together phone. Also I feel sorry for the guys that stood in line for hours/days. i got at the apple store at about 540 PM and got my phone around 700 PM. There was about 500 people infront of me but the line went very quickly.

FYI I have an extra 8 GB one if any one wants to buy.

Also if anyone figures out how to take the back cover off, please let me know. It's very tricky!

chrome89k

29-06-2007 21:00:45

glad to hear all these good reviews...

i want mine pronto....

how much for that spare... i know you definitely got it to make some GOOD money off it, but im just curious how much you want

WAIT.... do you just buy the phone at the apple store... OR... do you have to sign up with some plan.... i see people selling loads of them on ebay... are they opening that many contracts? or are you able to just buy them

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 21:14:49

[quote266554b9a2="chrome89k"]glad to hear all these good reviews...

i want mine pronto....

how much for that spare... i know you definitely got it to make some GOOD money off it, but im just curious how much you want

WAIT.... do you just buy the phone at the apple store... OR... do you have to sign up with some plan.... i see people selling loads of them on ebay... are they opening that many contracts? or are you able to just buy them[/quote266554b9a2]

Depends on what they going for on eBay. Not looking to rip anyone off but I am looking to make a few bucks profit.

No, I bought the phone from my local Apple store with out any plans. The phones are bought separately from the plan regardless of where you get them from. You activate the plan by syncing the phone with iTunes at your home computer. The process was a breeze!

A couple of flaws I have found the charger cable is too short and the phone gets pretty hot toward the top when charging and using at the same time.

chrome89k

29-06-2007 21:19:26

ooo.... thats not that bad

how much did it cost you to buy without plan at the store?

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 21:22:57

$599 + 8.25% tax

chrome89k

29-06-2007 21:30:38

wow.... who the hell was saying that it was going to be thousands...

are they sold out... i kinda wanna get one

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 21:55:18

It does not have a time ticker when the songs are playing. Don't iPods have this feature?

zdub08

29-06-2007 21:56:21

[quotef111b9a8b0="UniPrize Media"]It does not have a time ticker when the songs are playing. Don't iPods have this feature?[/quotef111b9a8b0]
yes

samz465

29-06-2007 21:56:24

[quoteeb71d34589="UniPrize Media"]It does not have a time ticker when the songs are playing. Don't iPods have this feature?[/quoteeb71d34589]
Time elapsed / Time remaining?
Or like scroll through the song without hitting "forward/rewind" feature.
B/c...It has both of those.

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 22:13:43

[quotebe4a1a9537="samz465"][quotebe4a1a9537="UniPrize Media"]It does not have a time ticker when the songs are playing. Don't iPods have this feature?[/quotebe4a1a9537]
Time elapsed / Time remaining?
Or like scroll through the song without hitting "forward/rewind" feature.
B/c...It has both of those.[/quotebe4a1a9537]

It does not show time elapsed or time remaining. You can fast forward through a song but it does not show where you are stopping or starting from.

samz465

29-06-2007 22:16:52

[quote66bde81114="UniPrize Media"][quote66bde81114="samz465"][quote66bde81114="UniPrize Media"]It does not have a time ticker when the songs are playing. Don't iPods have this feature?[/quote66bde81114]
Time elapsed / Time remaining?
Or like scroll through the song without hitting "forward/rewind" feature.
B/c...It has both of those.[/quote66bde81114]

It does not show time elapsed or time remaining. You can fast forward through a song but it does not show where you are stopping or starting from.[/quote66bde81114]
That's rediculous...
Try going through some settings and see if it has an on/off configuration somewhere.
I mean, that's a very crucial feature I'm sure they didn't leave that out...

zdub08

29-06-2007 22:24:02

[quotec461a629c9="UniPrize Media"][quotec461a629c9="samz465"][quotec461a629c9="UniPrize Media"]It does not have a time ticker when the songs are playing. Don't iPods have this feature?[/quotec461a629c9]
Time elapsed / Time remaining?
Or like scroll through the song without hitting "forward/rewind" feature.
B/c...It has both of those.[/quotec461a629c9]

It does not show time elapsed or time remaining. You can fast forward through a song but it does not show where you are stopping or starting from.[/quotec461a629c9]
go to iphone.com and look at the second iphone picture. does yours look like that when it's playing music? it looks like it has a bar showing how far along the song is.

edit ahhh, I just watched the video on iphone.com and the guy taps the artwork to bring it up. if you don't get what I'm saying, just go there and watch the video at the bottom.

chrome89k

29-06-2007 22:45:05

idc... still awesome )

are they sold out?

Bill

29-06-2007 22:49:10

According to this http//www.apple.com/retail/iphone/ they are still in stock

I don't see any Apple stores that have sold out of iPhones, could this really be true? It updates every 9pm PST.

chrome89k

29-06-2007 22:51:48

i dont see any that are not available either... well in my state of NY...

i think im going to go cop one tomorrrow... )

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 22:53:33

Oh, you tap it once to bring it up. I was tapping twice. I was about to say this was the saddest iPod ever. Everything is almost perfect now. And surprisingly, YouTube videos load perfectly on the iPhone while on EDGE. The quality is kind of lacking but that is understandable. Thanks guys for helping me out with the time ticker problem. It was getting me worried.

chrome89k

29-06-2007 23:03:23

trust me i dont think they would leave that out... HAHAHA

good investment? or no... im on the line

and what is EDGE?

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 23:06:16

[quote73aa69af25="chrome89k"]trust me i dont think they would leave that out... HAHAHA

good investment? or no... im on the line

and what is EDGE?[/quote73aa69af25]

Ya, I didn't they would either. Edge is AT&T's wireless internet network.

chrome89k

29-06-2007 23:06:55

do you think it is worth the money?

PS.... the update on the availability of the iphone updates every 9 PM...

ipod store closes after that... so it could be sold out... gotta check tomorrow

UniPrize Media

29-06-2007 23:18:57

[quote412afaf776="chrome89k"]do you think it is worth the money?[/quote412afaf776]

Well, i had an Ericcson P910 before this phone and it costs about the same but the iPhone has so many things the P910 doesn't have. So, yes it is worth the money.

gmario

29-06-2007 23:19:13

I might get one since my Cingular contract is up o but I'm scared of getting it since I might break it like I did with the Razor when it first came out. x

http//i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/gmario/DSC00079.jpg[" alt=""/img106f9a226d]

chrome89k

29-06-2007 23:23:54

everyone does that to their razr...

i was in the lunch line and some kid did it in front of me...

gmario

29-06-2007 23:26:33

I broke it like I broke all my other phones, i leave them on my lap when I'm driving and when I'm getting out I forget an Bamm!!!!!! It goes out flying an there goes the phone cry .

Bentley

30-06-2007 02:49:31

This phone is badass no joke, I had people drooling over this phone when I showed it to them. As far as I know Apple Stores got somewhere around a thousand in some of them but all the cingular/att stores around here are completely sold out.

TFOAF

30-06-2007 05:24:48

[quote9408ed74c7="UniPrize Media"][quote9408ed74c7="chrome89k"]glad to hear all these good reviews...

i want mine pronto....

how much for that spare... i know you definitely got it to make some GOOD money off it, but im just curious how much you want

WAIT.... do you just buy the phone at the apple store... OR... do you have to sign up with some plan.... i see people selling loads of them on ebay... are they opening that many contracts? or are you able to just buy them[/quote9408ed74c7]

Depends on what they going for on eBay. Not looking to rip anyone off but I am looking to make a few bucks profit.

No, I bought the phone from my local Apple store with out any plans. The phones are bought separately from the plan regardless of where you get them from. You activate the plan by syncing the phone with iTunes at your home computer. The process was a breeze!

A couple of flaws I have found the charger cable is too short and the phone gets pretty hot toward the top when charging and using at the same time.[/quote9408ed74c7]
What if you don't have a computer?

UniPrize Media

30-06-2007 08:46:36

[quote2d961d1d85="TFOAF"][quote2d961d1d85="UniPrize Media"][quote2d961d1d85="chrome89k"]glad to hear all these good reviews...

i want mine pronto....

how much for that spare... i know you definitely got it to make some GOOD money off it, but im just curious how much you want

WAIT.... do you just buy the phone at the apple store... OR... do you have to sign up with some plan.... i see people selling loads of them on ebay... are they opening that many contracts? or are you able to just buy them[/quote2d961d1d85]

Depends on what they going for on eBay. Not looking to rip anyone off but I am looking to make a few bucks profit.

No, I bought the phone from my local Apple store with out any plans. The phones are bought separately from the plan regardless of where you get them from. You activate the plan by syncing the phone with iTunes at your home computer. The process was a breeze!

A couple of flaws I have found the charger cable is too short and the phone gets pretty hot toward the top when charging and using at the same time.[/quote2d961d1d85]
What if you don't have a computer?[/quote2d961d1d85]

You can go to the AT&T stores and they can do it for you.

The battery life is also surprisingly good. The phone does whatever it can to preserve battery. I went to sleep with the music playing and woke up 7 hours later and it was still playing with only like 20% of battery ate up.

JKirk

30-06-2007 09:00:23

I wish we had AT&T here. We have everything BUT AT&T.

theysayjump

30-06-2007 09:24:29

[quotedce3d9c37a="JKirk"]I wish we had AT&T here. We have everything BUT AT&T.[/quotedce3d9c37a]

u can custim ordr it frm urgifsfree!

Blink182=Gone

30-06-2007 12:19:07

[bd6c602dbf7]Alright, question[/bd6c602dbf7][/colord6c602dbf7][/sized6c602dbf7]

I am wanting to resell on ebay.

I go to the nearest AT&T store (No Apple stores around).

[bd6c602dbf7]They tell me that to prevent it being sold online that they will assign my phone number to the phone and it can only be activated by me at home on my little computer.

Is the only way around this to buy the phone from an Apple store, or do they assign your phone number to the iphone's serial number?[/bd6c602dbf7]

Also, they said that once you fully activate the phone, since it has an internal SIM card it is non-transferrable....they said there is NO resale value with this phone ever.

Bentley

30-06-2007 12:50:09

[quote6ae16a2f7e="UniPrize Media"][quote6ae16a2f7e="TFOAF"][quote6ae16a2f7e="UniPrize Media"][quote6ae16a2f7e="chrome89k"]glad to hear all these good reviews...

i want mine pronto....

how much for that spare... i know you definitely got it to make some GOOD money off it, but im just curious how much you want

WAIT.... do you just buy the phone at the apple store... OR... do you have to sign up with some plan.... i see people selling loads of them on ebay... are they opening that many contracts? or are you able to just buy them[/quote6ae16a2f7e]

Depends on what they going for on eBay. Not looking to rip anyone off but I am looking to make a few bucks profit.

No, I bought the phone from my local Apple store with out any plans. The phones are bought separately from the plan regardless of where you get them from. You activate the plan by syncing the phone with iTunes at your home computer. The process was a breeze!

A couple of flaws I have found the charger cable is too short and the phone gets pretty hot toward the top when charging and using at the same time.[/quote6ae16a2f7e]
What if you don't have a computer?[/quote6ae16a2f7e]

You can go to the AT&T stores and they can do it for you.

The battery life is also surprisingly good. The phone does whatever it can to preserve battery. I went to sleep with the music playing and woke up 7 hours later and it was still playing with only like 20% of battery ate up.[/quote6ae16a2f7e]

thats exactly what I did when I went to sleep and I woke up and I had about 50% left. This phone is truly a masterpiece. Blink182 they assign your phone number at home via iTunes. You can just buy it and do w/e you want with it except you can't use it until u activate it.

Blink182=Gone

30-06-2007 13:04:33

the woman was supposedly "attaching" my phone number to the iphone's serial # and she said that it could only be activated using my phone number after she did so. (This was at an AT&T store)

She was putting it all into the computer so I became a little scared at that thought.

[ba88a466a2b]Does anyone else have any answers to my original question?[/ba88a466a2b]

Bentley

30-06-2007 13:11:06

Wow I never noticed that but what you could do is have whoevers buying it use your phone number and thats really the only time when its used to sign up on iTunes.

Blink182=Gone

30-06-2007 13:42:39

[quote4d432432d9="Bentley"]Wow I never noticed that but what you could do is have whoevers buying it use your phone number and thats really the only time when its used to sign up on iTunes.[/quote4d432432d9]

I dont think that idea would work for selling on eBay.

Apparently Apple stores don't do this, so it makes me wonder if the AT&T stores are just saying that to keep you from selling it. Arghh roll

chrome89k

30-06-2007 13:45:50

ok so the process is.... purchase the phone at the apple store, go to at&t to activate, then what do you do with itunes?

UniPrize Media

30-06-2007 13:50:04

[quoteaa900d7dc9="Blink182=Gone"]the woman was supposedly "attaching" my phone number to the iphone's serial # and she said that it could only be activated using my phone number after she did so. (This was at an AT&T store)

She was putting it all into the computer so I became a little scared at that thought.

[baa900d7dc9]Does anyone else have any answers to my original question?[/baa900d7dc9][/quoteaa900d7dc9]

Just tell her you want just the phone. They can not force you to activate it there. They probably are taking advantage of you bc. there is no Apple store near by.

http//www.boygeniusreport.com/Documents/iphonelaunchguide2.pdf

That is a link to AT&T's employee training manual for iPhone launch. Read through it. They tell employees to make sure customers stay there and activate the phone but you don't have to.

Blink182=Gone

30-06-2007 13:54:06

[quote6e8d85c68d="chrome89k"]ok so the process is.... purchase the phone at the apple store, go to at&t to activate, then what do you do with itunes?[/quote6e8d85c68d]

There are actually 2 ways.

1. Go to Apple Store and buy it. Then go home and using the new itunes you actually can go through and transfer your number to the iphone.

2. Go to AT&T store and buy it. and do the a same thing.

Blink182=Gone

30-06-2007 14:05:47

[quotee8ad4cf6d7="UniPrize Media"][quotee8ad4cf6d7="Blink182=Gone"]the woman was supposedly "attaching" my phone number to the iphone's serial # and she said that it could only be activated using my phone number after she did so. (This was at an AT&T store)

She was putting it all into the computer so I became a little scared at that thought.

[be8ad4cf6d7]Does anyone else have any answers to my original question?[/be8ad4cf6d7][/quotee8ad4cf6d7]

Just tell her you want just the phone. They can not force you to activate it there. They probably are taking advantage of you bc. there is no Apple store near by.

http//www.boygeniusreport.com/Documents/iphonelaunchguide2.pdf

That is a link to AT&T's employee training manual for iPhone launch. Read through it. They tell employees to make sure customers stay there and activate the phone but you don't have to.[/quotee8ad4cf6d7]

I'm reading that guide right now, and I'm reading where it says, "In order for you (the AT&T sales rep) to receive commission you must record the IMEI# from the phone. It says that in red text, so I guess that answers my question.

Thanks for that link....looks like the only way around that is buying at the Apple Store (if you want to resell). cry

zdub08

30-06-2007 14:08:54

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-2DpbvfTZ8&NR=1

UniPrize Media

30-06-2007 15:02:30

...

theysayjump

30-06-2007 21:16:02

http//www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1190824

wasabe

30-06-2007 21:33:06

[quote64e2552dba="UniPrize Media"]$599 + 8.25% tax[/quote64e2552dba]

+ $59.99-$119.99 x 24 months

Bentley

01-07-2007 03:09:49

When they ask you your CC just say Im going to do that at home. The manager told me the credit check is easier if you do it in store than Itunes because your chances are higher and you he said if they say you have to put down a deposit you have to come back to Cingular and you have to wait for the lines. When you do they credit there they will put the credit check on the recent and you just type it in and it activates.

Jams44

01-07-2007 03:34:02

The iTunes setup is amazingly quick. If you already have an AT&T account they ask for

Number
Zip Code
Last 4-Digits of Payee's SS#

and then you select your plan and its done!

Wolfeman

01-07-2007 06:35:32

I just saw a video of how the typing works and I'm out. Not nearly good enough for me. I'll keep my Treo and iPod...

tjwor

01-07-2007 07:30:53

[quote96b128d806="gmario"]I broke it like I broke all my other phones, i leave them on my lap when I'm driving and when I'm getting out I forget an Bamm!!!!!! It goes out flying an there goes the phone cry .[/quote96b128d806]

i do that ALL the time, luckily I have a durable phone, it has been dropped hundreds of times...

Veek

01-07-2007 13:37:16

http//cgi.ebay.com/Camerons-Apple-iPOD-phone-1-0_W0QQitemZ250137963898QQihZ015QQcategoryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

dmorris68

01-07-2007 13:39:29

[quote5f0e05a536="Veek"]http//cgi.ebay.com/Camerons-Apple-iPod-phone-1-0_W0QQitemZ250137963898QQihZ015QQcategoryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/quote5f0e05a536]
lol

How much you want to bet some idiot will bid on it. $400 shipping and all.

kidd2108

01-07-2007 16:24:44

Someone tries to steal an iphone on live TV. lol

http//break.com/index/iphone-jacking-attempt-on-live-tv.html

x323smostwantedx

01-07-2007 16:26:09

Lol, reminds me of the ps1+ps2=ps3

dmorris68

01-07-2007 17:32:39

He didn't grab the iPhone, he grabbed the reporter's microphone. Still an idiot though.

Psyc

01-07-2007 17:50:44

Pwnt.
http//gizmodo.com/gadgets/ebayers-are-smarties/woman-wants-to-buy-100000-in-iphones-cant-274036.php

kidd2108

01-07-2007 18:01:12

[quote057229d446="dmorris68"]He didn't grab the iPhone, he grabbed the reporter's microphone. Still an idiot though.[/quote057229d446]

I think he was going for the iphone tough. He just looked nervous, reached and grabbed, and took off. Like you said, he still an idiot. lol

mnx12

01-07-2007 18:20:57

[quote6f87b616eb="Psyc"]Pwnt.
http//gizmodo.com/gadgets/ebayers-are-smarties/woman-wants-to-buy-100000-in-iphones-cant-274036.php[/quote6f87b616eb]
That's pretty hilarious. I'm surprised she didn't get jumped though, how she was just waving around all that money...

chrome89k

01-07-2007 22:07:53

that's awesome...

and what a dumb lady...

JKirk

01-07-2007 22:19:31

http//youtube.com/watch?v=lcB8CKa73B0

OMFG, NEW FEATURES FOUND!!

hitnaui

01-07-2007 22:35:09

[quotef6f73995a9="Psyc"]Pwnt.
http//gizmodo.com/gadgets/ebayers-are-smarties/woman-wants-to-buy-100000-in-iphones-cant-274036.php[/quotef6f73995a9]
That kid got a free IPhone for doing nothing, how lucky is that.

mnx12

01-07-2007 22:42:00

He didn't do nothing, he stood in line for a really long time....

Bentley

01-07-2007 23:22:58

[quote307d57e002="mnx12"]He didn't do nothing, he stood in line for a really long time....[/quote307d57e002]

Doing nothing...

cubbieco

01-07-2007 23:36:19

Apple seems to have done a good job meeting demand. Even though people lined up most of their stores still have them in stock. It's also possible that not many people bought them, but considering all the coverage and the people in line it's probably the former that is true.

All I know is I want one. 18 months to go. Stupid contracts. (

mcal44

02-07-2007 09:30:07

http//www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/[]http//www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/

Reports are that this will be necessary after 300-400 charges - I gotta say this is a deal breaker for me.

dmorris68

02-07-2007 10:40:24

[quote4f197ba346="mcal44"]http//www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/[]http//www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/

Reports are that this will be necessary after 300-400 charges - I gotta say this is a deal breaker for me.[/quote4f197ba346]
I'm curious to what basis these charge estimates are made, seeing as how it's only been out for 3 days now.

At any rate, if you charge it 2-3 times per week (seems reasonable based upon battery life reports and my own experience with other ARM-based smartphones), 300-400 charges still amounts to 2-3 years of useful battery life. That's pretty typical for phone battery life anyway. Granted you can replace your own batteries pretty easily in a regular phone, but then again in 2 years I'd imagine people have figured out how to replace iPhone batteries themselves too -- just like with the iPod.

AMoore913

02-07-2007 19:53:00

In a magazine article I read recently, you would pay about $2000 during the life of the phone, which to me just isn't worth it, since I could just buy a computer for that much. For the traveler who would rather not carry around a laptop everywhere and can afford it, it would be a cool luxury.

mcal44

02-07-2007 20:33:01

[quote921689508b="dmorris68"][quote921689508b="mcal44"]http//www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/[]http//www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/

Reports are that this will be necessary after 300-400 charges - I gotta say this is a deal breaker for me.[/quote921689508b]
I'm curious to what basis these charge estimates are made, seeing as how it's only been out for 3 days now.

At any rate, if you charge it 2-3 times per week (seems reasonable based upon battery life reports and my own experience with other ARM-based smartphones), 300-400 charges still amounts to 2-3 years of useful battery life. That's pretty typical for phone battery life anyway. Granted you can replace your own batteries pretty easily in a regular phone, but then again in 2 years I'd imagine people have figured out how to replace iPhone batteries themselves too -- just like with the iPod.[/quote921689508b]

I'll try to find my source but I know it was one of the tech blogs. Your 2-3 times a week estimate might be a little low for me personally as I have used any smartphone that I've owned enough that I'm charging every night. So for me 300-400 charges is 1 year and even though it's likely that I'll have bought a new phone within 6months I just don't find it to be a good value for such a pricey phone.

AMoore913

02-07-2007 20:38:09

Well, after 2-3 years, I would imagine everyone will be ready to buy the next iphone though right? I really don't see people keeping it for longer than that due to the blistering pace at which these technologies are advancing. Plus they'll hopefully have more storage then.

turbohim

02-07-2007 20:52:36

I feel bad for the people who bought them for eBay. I see some not even going for retail value.

chrome89k

03-07-2007 09:54:45

aww poor them.... i have a friend who works with at&t and he said they will be coming out with a better model in a few short months

gmario

03-07-2007 18:36:44

Just got mine, not sure to open it or not 8)

cubbieco

03-07-2007 18:45:43

Of course you need to open it. If you sell it on ebay, you don't need to specifically say its new to get a good price for it. You should at least decide if you like it or not before selling it.

BTW, do not expect a huge markup since they haven't totally sold out yet.

gmario

03-07-2007 18:55:42

Hehehehe I actually bought it on ebay from some guy who lived close by and I ended up winning the auction at $619 8) so I just drove and picked it up a few hours ago. I'm guessing he was expecting more lol but instead lost some money due to tax. Oh yea and I already opened it about to set it up D

Bentley

03-07-2007 23:14:09

[quote43dd920165="chrome89k"]aww poor them.... i have a friend who works with at&t and he said they will be coming out with a better model in a few short months[/quote43dd920165]

nice i have a friend who has this girlfriend whose brother's daughters boyfriends co-workers dads mother who works at AT&T who also said the same thing.

chrome89k

04-07-2007 09:12:11

sarcastic, or you going to wait for that one also?

ps... whats a good ebay price to buy it for...

how much does the phone come out to be in stores after tax?

was gmario's buy off ebay a good deal...

tjwor

04-07-2007 10:35:36

[quote44c5461761="chrome89k"]sarcastic, or you going to wait for that one also?

ps... whats a good ebay price to buy it for...

how much does the phone come out to be in stores after tax?

was gmario's buy off ebay a good deal...[/quote44c5461761]

i believe sales tax is between 4% and 7% in most places, (at least around here it is) so at 5% x 600= $30, so $630 at 5% sales tax... He said it was cheaper than it would have been from the store...

Blink182=Gone

05-07-2007 14:32:10

maybe i'm just not following it here, but at AT&T they told me that they will not transfer numbers if you activate the phone and then later on down the road plan on selling it.

They said that once it's activated, it's activated. I asked the manager to verify, and he called it a [i166a5872ee]"$600 brick"[/i166a5872ee] if you try to sell it after you've activated it with your phone number.

Wolfeman

05-07-2007 15:01:08

iPhone breaks after 4 days
http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19614050

gmario

06-07-2007 23:50:49

got it hooked up on my car today ) now i can listen to music and watch movies while driving not too safe tho wink

Veek

06-07-2007 23:53:56

[quote3de858dd83="gmario"]got it hooked up on my car today ) now i can listen to music and watch movies while driving not too safe tho wink[/quote3de858dd83]

Then don't do it.

chrome89k

10-07-2007 21:02:37

ok so how bout that blackberry curve...

greater than or equal to the iphone?

al i know is AT&T is rippin up the cell phone game lately

WOW... and its on sale (nokia n95) lili5 mp CAMERA on a PHONE!!

http//www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n95-smartphone-unlocked/q/loc/101/204709073.html

tjwor

02-08-2007 12:48:30

well, i went over on my minutes a month ago on my cell phone, got a $180 bill, lots of it was because i was getting charged to see if I had any voicemails, since my phone doesn't tell me when i get one, so I had to call my phone to check very often, and i ended up getting charged $.49 per extra min... I called and complained and all sorts of stuff, they wouldn't help me out, so I asked how much it would cost to cancel my plan, they said $150, i bitched a little more and the guy said, i've voided your contract so you can get out whenever you want... That means Iphone for me next week D

any reason I should wait a little longer to get one?

doylnea

02-08-2007 13:06:53

[quote6ff0729b79="tjwor"]well, i went over on my minutes a month ago on my cell phone, got a $180 bill, lots of it was because i was getting charged to see if I had any voicemails, since my phone doesn't tell me when i get one, so I had to call my phone to check very often, and i ended up getting charged $.49 per extra min... I called and complained and all sorts of stuff, they wouldn't help me out, so I asked how much it would cost to cancel my plan, they said $150, i bitched a little more and the guy said, i've voided your contract so you can get out whenever you want... That means Iphone for me next week D

any reason I should wait a little longer to get one?[/quote6ff0729b79]

well, they may not you back as a customer...

tjwor

02-08-2007 13:09:20

[quotec97ef8f6e2="doylnea"][quotec97ef8f6e2="tjwor"]well, i went over on my minutes a month ago on my cell phone, got a $180 bill, lots of it was because i was getting charged to see if I had any voicemails, since my phone doesn't tell me when i get one, so I had to call my phone to check very often, and i ended up getting charged $.49 per extra min... I called and complained and all sorts of stuff, they wouldn't help me out, so I asked how much it would cost to cancel my plan, they said $150, i bitched a little more and the guy said, i've voided your contract so you can get out whenever you want... That means Iphone for me next week D

any reason I should wait a little longer to get one?[/quotec97ef8f6e2]

well, they may not you back as a customer...[/quotec97ef8f6e2]

say what?

doylnea

02-08-2007 13:13:26

[quotececb2c32c1="tjwor"][quotececb2c32c1="doylnea"][quotececb2c32c1="tjwor"]well, i went over on my minutes a month ago on my cell phone, got a $180 bill, lots of it was because i was getting charged to see if I had any voicemails, since my phone doesn't tell me when i get one, so I had to call my phone to check very often, and i ended up getting charged $.49 per extra min... I called and complained and all sorts of stuff, they wouldn't help me out, so I asked how much it would cost to cancel my plan, they said $150, i bitched a little more and the guy said, i've voided your contract so you can get out whenever you want... That means Iphone for me next week D

any reason I should wait a little longer to get one?[/quotececb2c32c1]

well, they may not you back as a customer...[/quotececb2c32c1]

say what?[/quotececb2c32c1]

assuming that you were a AT&T customer, if they voided your contract because of your complaints, then they may not take you back as a customer.

turbohim

02-08-2007 14:02:44

[quote0d69f5ddf3="tjwor"]any reason I should wait a little longer to get one?[/quote0d69f5ddf3]

v2 is when i am getting mine

http//news.digitaltrends.com/talkback195.html

tjwor

02-08-2007 15:01:12

[quoteab687d61f2="doylnea"][quoteab687d61f2="tjwor"][quoteab687d61f2="doylnea"][quoteab687d61f2="tjwor"]well, i went over on my minutes a month ago on my cell phone, got a $180 bill, lots of it was because i was getting charged to see if I had any voicemails, since my phone doesn't tell me when i get one, so I had to call my phone to check very often, and i ended up getting charged $.49 per extra min... I called and complained and all sorts of stuff, they wouldn't help me out, so I asked how much it would cost to cancel my plan, they said $150, i bitched a little more and the guy said, i've voided your contract so you can get out whenever you want... That means Iphone for me next week D

any reason I should wait a little longer to get one?[/quoteab687d61f2]

well, they may not you back as a customer...[/quoteab687d61f2]

say what?[/quoteab687d61f2]

assuming that you were a AT&T customer, if they voided your contract because of your complaints, then they may not take you back as a customer.[/quoteab687d61f2]

no, i've been u.s. cellular, i wish i woulda known they would just void my contract, i woulda got out months ago... 39.99 for 450 anytime, no free nights weekend or any of that... they made me upgrade when they switched from cellular one to u.s. cellular (i didn't know i could get out of my contract at that time...) but i would have been out a long time ago if i'd known i coulda...

dmorris68

02-08-2007 15:01:26

http//www.comics.com/wash/opus/archive/opus-20070701.html

lol

chrome89k

02-08-2007 16:21:52

digital turnip twaddling lmfao

chrome89k

04-08-2007 11:45:25

http//vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2048885627

iphone shuffle anyone?

bullseye4u

05-08-2007 12:10:09

so basically if i buy a new iphone and activate it i cant sell it?

tjwor

05-08-2007 13:38:54

[quote1a6b446b94="MyGiftsFree"]so basically if i buy a new iphone and activate it i cant sell it?[/quote1a6b446b94]

i was curious about that too, if i get one and they have a big update in 6 months, can i sell my first one and buy a 2nd?

chrome89k

05-08-2007 15:11:53

i think once its bonded to a user... it cannot be re established

bullseye4u

05-08-2007 15:23:52

[quote124b404154="chrome89k"]i think once its bonded to a user... it cannot be re established[/quote124b404154]

well, this guy is selling a used phone http//cgi.ebay.com/Apple-4GB-iphone-AT-T-used-4-weeks-Power-Seller_W0QQitemZ270151875015QQihZ017QQcategoryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

tjwor

05-08-2007 17:14:08

i'm listing my 3 ipods on ebay tonight to pay for my iphone D

freaky1718

06-08-2007 03:51:01

yes you can change it on the top of the iphone you will notice a hole push a pin in there ur simcard will come out so just bring your phone to any cingular store and they should be able to put a new sim card into the sim card cradle for you

chrome89k

06-08-2007 13:39:41

thats for SIM.... THATS AWESOME... how come nobody told me about that....

you mean i can put my sim card in there .... and transfer all my numbers?

tracemhunter

06-08-2007 14:40:39

I'm opting for the Nokia N95 in a couple of weeks over the iPhone ). Too bad no carriers here in the states have contracts with it so I have to buy it unlocked for the same price as the iPhone.

chrome89k

06-08-2007 14:55:41

any pics of it... or any place in particular that you are leaning to buy it from.... ebay? or a seller out of the country on a diff website

tracemhunter

06-08-2007 17:23:41

There are pros and cons on the phone but for the most part every feature is better than that of the iPhone. Off the top of my head the only advantages the iPhone has over the N95 is it is thinner and has built-in storage. However, the N95 uses MicroSD (a 2gb drive is around $20) and SDHC (only 8gb is available now but Samsung is releasing a 32gb that is confirmed to work for the phone). The N95 also has a 5MP camera with flash and a copious amount of features (macro mode, sports, landscape, etc), GPS, 3G support, wi-fi, an easy to use mp3 player, a great browser with multiple windows, and it plays MPEG4 and h.264 videos. If the battery goes out, you can just switch it out instead of having to send the phone to an Apple technician (from what I understand) so I won't be without a phone for a couple of weeks. A couple of review sites said that it has the best reception they have ever heard on a GSM phone. I saw it on MacMall today for 624 with free shipping. Here is some more info on the specs
http//www.cellswholesale.com/Nokia-N95,C,269/

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