Microsoft banning 360s with modified firmwares.

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downthesun

19-05-2007 23:54:09

[quote46d2ff8bad]Microsoft Starts Banning 360s on LIVE - MS Confirms
>> With the amount of posts we see on our forums ... it's clear, Microsoft decided to start banning Xbox360 with modified firmwares today (both Hitachi-LG and Toshiba-Samsung drives).
While it's the same release date as Halo3 beta, it seems that people who didn't download Halo3 also get banned. They could detect the modified FW, changes in FWs or backup-discs ... that's not very clear yet and we'll have to find that out in the next few days and weeks.
Even people using the new firmwares with disc-jitter added get banned, so it looks like Microsoft found another way to detect it. However we also see reports of people with modified firmwares that are not banned (yet). Microsoft is known to ban with delay though, so it'll probably take a while before we got a good view on who got banned for what reasons.
Just like on Xbox1 it looks like Microsoft bans the console unique ID (serial), not the LIVE user. Microsoft will not allow anyone to login on LIVE on a banned console.
Many people on the official xbox.com forums also claim they got banned but didn't have a flashed firmware ... we'll have to see how that story develops in the coming hours and days. [/quote46d2ff8bad]

http//www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEZAuFAEuAjENKDCMV.php

This really sucks. -/ Mine is still working...for now (

michae229

20-05-2007 00:29:31

[quote06abb7a298="downthesun"][quote06abb7a298]Microsoft Starts Banning 360s on LIVE - MS Confirms
>> With the amount of posts we see on our forums ... it's clear, Microsoft decided to start banning Xbox360 with modified firmwares today (both Hitachi-LG and Toshiba-Samsung drives).
While it's the same release date as Halo3 beta, it seems that people who didn't download Halo3 also get banned. They could detect the modified FW, changes in FWs or backup-discs ... that's not very clear yet and we'll have to find that out in the next few days and weeks.
Even people using the new firmwares with disc-jitter added get banned, so it looks like Microsoft found another way to detect it. However we also see reports of people with modified firmwares that are not banned (yet). Microsoft is known to ban with delay though, so it'll probably take a while before we got a good view on who got banned for what reasons.
Just like on Xbox1 it looks like Microsoft bans the console unique ID (serial), not the LIVE user. Microsoft will not allow anyone to login on LIVE on a banned console.
Many people on the official xbox.com forums also claim they got banned but didn't have a flashed firmware ... we'll have to see how that story develops in the coming hours and days. [/quote06abb7a298]

http//www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEZAuFAEuAjENKDCMV.php

This really sucks. -/ Mine is still working...for now ([/quote06abb7a298]

yea i already mentioned this they are some people saying they are getting banned also with unhacked firmware

zwarrior99

20-05-2007 07:49:50

this is BS! lol now im afraid of logging on too see if im banned... damn MS!

shortys408

20-05-2007 08:56:08

this is great. I bought a 2nd 360 so I have aa banned modded 360 and an unmodded 360. It was only 150$ because it was banned.

zwarrior99

20-05-2007 09:07:19

woot logged in banned! yes!! filed a chargeback on MS those bastards at least I might get my xbox live costs...

patrick_7412

20-05-2007 09:27:10

I personally think this is awesome. I remember playing Halo 2 back in the day and getting modded every lilililiing game. It got really annoying.

Buy legal games and no problems =/

ffactoryxx

20-05-2007 09:34:34

[quote73894b84d3="zwarrior99"]woot logged in banned! yes!! filed a chargeback on MS those bastards at least I might get my xbox live costs...[/quote73894b84d3]

Why would you file a charge back when you were the one who modded the console and went against there online TOS? You knew it was coming sooner than later, so don't call it BS, and ust live with it

michae229

20-05-2007 09:47:39

[quoteb8dc2b391f="patrick_7412"]I personally think this is awesome. I remember playing Halo 2 back in the day and getting modded every lilililiing game. It got really annoying.

Buy legal games and no problems =/[/quoteb8dc2b391f]

how can a copied game help you cheat?

[quoteb8dc2b391f="ffactoryxx"][quoteb8dc2b391f="zwarrior99"]woot logged in banned! yes!! filed a chargeback on MS those bastards at least I might get my xbox live costs...[/quoteb8dc2b391f]

Why would you file a charge back when you were the one who modded the console and went against there online TOS? You knew it was coming sooner than later, so don't call it BS, and ust live with it[/quoteb8dc2b391f]

cause we can? (mine is modded been one all day and night not banned)

TryinToGetPaid

20-05-2007 11:34:19

Um, you can mod online and hack there buddy, I have seen people move so fast you couldn't ever see them.

Also, I doubt you ever see any money and I am sure they just laugh at your face.

jdizzle314

20-05-2007 11:39:56

Filing a chargeback will only get you in more trouble..they will be like your lucky you only got your consoled banned and we didnt press charges for copy right infridgments.

zwarrior99

20-05-2007 12:00:07

[quote94343fe08c="jdizzle314"]Filing a chargeback will only get you in more trouble..they will be like your lucky you only got your consoled banned and we didnt press charges for copy right infridgments.[/quote94343fe08c]

ill take my chances pussy twisted

thikidflyss

20-05-2007 12:09:08

Why would people cheat in a game anyway?
it defeats the purpose of buying the damn game in the first place.

Might as well make a back up to cheat, and play offline.

Gigante

20-05-2007 12:28:36

Stop whining children and accept the fact you got caught.

michae229

20-05-2007 12:29:34

[quotef36e9f46d0="TryinToGetPaid"]Um, you can mod online and hack there buddy, I have seen people move so fast you couldn't ever see them.

Also, I doubt you ever see any money and I am sure they just laugh at your face.[/quotef36e9f46d0]

send me the game that is modded on a 360 game since your dad can hack the 360 maybe he can find me a modded gears of war then we can talk.


also good news bros sources tell me there will be a c4eva Xtreme Online fw to come maybe TryinToGetPaid dad can do it first lol.

CollidgeGraduit

20-05-2007 12:36:04

Knock off the sarcastic comments, everyone. It really gets old seeing every thread turn into a flame war.

jdizzle314

20-05-2007 14:03:53

[quote79984e8876="zwarrior99"][quote79984e8876="jdizzle314"]Filing a chargeback will only get you in more trouble..they will be like your lucky you only got your consoled banned and we didnt press charges for copy right infridgments.[/quote79984e8876]

ill take my chances pussy twisted[/quote79984e8876]
Hey go ahead.. roll that is what they told me when i made up some b/s story about someone selling me the console and blah blah..trust me...what they will say is that it is your own fault blah blah blah

Ps-I can say about 99% of the people with modding xbox 360 dont have them to mod and hack games...they have them so they can play burnt copy b/c they feel that they charge way to much.

Grimmjow

20-05-2007 14:24:50

I HATE cheaters! yay.

hehehhehe

20-05-2007 14:39:36

No one was cheating with a modded xbox 360, that was only with the original xbox. 360 modding only allows backups, no hacks.

You bought the hardware so you can do whatever you want with it, but you just can't play on live if you modded. MS are not bastards for doing this. If you want to play on their network, they have the right to kick you off if you modded. I don't understand all the whining.

michae229

20-05-2007 15:27:37

[quoted1db162fe5="hehehhehe"]No one was cheating with a modded xbox 360, that was only with the original xbox. 360 modding only allows backups, no hacks.

You bought the hardware so you can do whatever you want with it, but you just can't play on live if you modded. MS are not bastards for doing this. If you want to play on their network, they have the right to kick you off if you modded. I don't understand all the whining.[/quoted1db162fe5]

yea but come on banning the console but not the live account, tells me buy another xbox and we will keep your live account active in hopes we can milk you threw there and keep you as a number to brag about how many people we have online.

downthesun

20-05-2007 15:47:03

If you've seen anyone lagging really bad in games, its not always a hack for the game. There are these switch thingies that make you lag really bad in games for everyone else. I have seen people doing it in resistance on ps3.

also, i think it's kind of lame they are banning from the entire live network. and another thing, they can't even produce a 360 console that lasts much longer than a year. that's not right at all. you're expected to pay $400 for a console and then it just burns out on you after the warranty expires then you have to fork over another $160 for them to either fix your console or give you a refurbished one.

hehehhehe

20-05-2007 16:06:26

[quote71d19c38d5="michae229"]yea but come on banning the console but not the live account, tells me buy another xbox and we will keep your live account active in hopes we can milk you threw there and keep you as a number to brag about how many people we have online.[/quote71d19c38d5]
If you gave banned 360 owners the choice of keeping their live accounts, what do you think they'd do? That's actually not a bad thing, I don't know why you'd bring it up. Who cares about whether they want to brag about their numbers.

michae229

20-05-2007 16:21:16

[quotefb2aa3e95e="hehehhehe"][quotefb2aa3e95e="michae229"]yea but come on banning the console but not the live account, tells me buy another xbox and we will keep your live account active in hopes we can milk you threw there and keep you as a number to brag about how many people we have online.[/quotefb2aa3e95e]
If you gave banned 360 owners the choice of keeping their live accounts, what do you think they'd do? That's actually not a bad thing, I don't know why you'd bring it up. Who cares about whether they want to brag about their numbers.[/quotefb2aa3e95e]

it is a bad thing because they will pass their consoles to people that don't know they are banned then they will call M$ and they will say tough luck deterring possible new Live accounts.


[quotefb2aa3e95e="downthesun"]If you've seen anyone lagging really bad in games, its not always a hack for the game. There are these switch thingies that make you lag really bad in games for everyone else. I have seen people doing it in resistance on ps3.

also, i think it's kind of lame they are banning from the entire live network. and another thing, they can't even produce a 360 console that lasts much longer than a year. that's not right at all. you're expected to pay $400 for a console and then it just burns out on you after the warranty expires then you have to fork over another $160 for them to either fix your console or give you a refurbished one.[/quotefb2aa3e95e]

I still don't see how people are cheating PS3 is not even hacked yet or even the 360 fully at least.

hehehhehe

20-05-2007 16:37:53

[quotef5d313994b="michae229"]it is a bad thing because they will pass their consoles to people that don't know they are banned then they will call M$ and they will say tough luck deterring possible new Live accounts.[/quotef5d313994b]
People are used to xboxes that are banned from live since xbox 1, that's nothing new. If you just ban the gametag, people will create a new one and just flash back their 360 as needed.

Of course they hope to sell more 360s with this, but quit telling me they are bad to ban modded consoles. My 360 is modded but I'm not bitching. Anyone with a clue knew this was coming.

downthesun

20-05-2007 16:43:18

[quote3188c40409="michae229"]I still don't see how people are cheating PS3 is not even hacked yet or even the 360 fully at least.[/quote3188c40409]

it's nothing to do with the ps3, its just some switch you hook up to your internet connection and it lags you.

michae229

20-05-2007 16:48:27

[quoteabd66f843d="hehehhehe"][quoteabd66f843d="michae229"]it is a bad thing because they will pass their consoles to people that don't know they are banned then they will call M$ and they will say tough luck deterring possible new Live accounts.[/quoteabd66f843d]
People are used to xboxes that are banned from live since xbox 1, that's nothing new. If you just ban the gametag, people will create a new one and just flash back their 360 as needed.

Of course they hope to sell more 360s with this, but quit telling me they are bad to ban modded consoles. My 360 is modded but I'm not bitching.
Anyone with a clue knew this was coming.[/quoteabd66f843d]

i know they have every right to ban consoles but come one letting us keep our gamer tag at least they can be honest and say to stop people playing backups not about cheating.

[quoteabd66f843d="downthesun"][quoteabd66f843d="michae229"]I still don't see how people are cheating PS3 is not even hacked yet or even the 360 fully at least.[/quoteabd66f843d]

it's nothing to do with the ps3, its just some switch you hook up to your internet connection and it lags you.[/quoteabd66f843d]

oh i thought you meant code for unlimited health or something

jamesah

20-05-2007 17:34:22

I'm glad I chose not to mod my xbox360(got it for next to nothing thanks to shopfreepay; but still).

I almost did it so i didn't have to shell out $60 for a copy of Crackdown to get the halo3 beta but I did the "honest" thing and decided to just go buy the game so I could play halo3...

Good thing I never modded mine... I modded xbox1 at first so I could copy games to the harddrive and use XBMC, etc. Modded xbox1's are still the shit with media... you can use those like a home media center and shit. It's amazing... There is a big difference between modding to cheat and modding to play "backups"... I like modding for "backups" and homemade programs, but modding a console in order to cheat in an online game on xbox live, makes you one sad mofo.

zwarrior99

20-05-2007 17:47:35

[quote1412d60bdb="jamesah"]I'm glad I chose not to mod my xbox360(got it for next to nothing thanks to shopfreepay; but still).

I almost did it so i didn't have to shell out $60 for a copy of Crackdown to get the halo3 beta but I did the "honest" thing and decided to just go buy the game so I could play halo3...

Good thing I never modded mine... I modded xbox1 at first so I could copy games to the harddrive and use XBMC, etc. Modded xbox1's are still the shit with media... you can use those like a home media center and shit. It's amazing... There is a big difference between modding to cheat and modding to play "backups"... I like modding for "backups" and homemade programs, but modding a console in order to cheat in an online game on xbox live, makes you one sad mofo.[/quote1412d60bdb]

im still not sure where these noobs got the idea that you can cheat in online games using a modded 360.. its really a sad thing that your so naive to think that, anyways yea im still glad i modded my shit no way will i spend the money it requires to buy games I rather just not play shit than pay fo it. cuz im a gansta x

michae229

20-05-2007 17:49:52

[quoteee4707923d="zwarrior99"][quoteee4707923d="jamesah"]I'm glad I chose not to mod my xbox360(got it for next to nothing thanks to shopfreepay; but still).

I almost did it so i didn't have to shell out $60 for a copy of Crackdown to get the halo3 beta but I did the "honest" thing and decided to just go buy the game so I could play halo3...

Good thing I never modded mine... I modded xbox1 at first so I could copy games to the harddrive and use XBMC, etc. Modded xbox1's are still the shit with media... you can use those like a home media center and shit. It's amazing... There is a big difference between modding to cheat and modding to play "backups"... I like modding for "backups" and homemade programs, but modding a console in order to cheat in an online game on xbox live, makes you one sad mofo.[/quoteee4707923d]

im still not sure where these noobs got the idea that you can cheat in online games using a modded 360.. its really a sad thing that your so naive to think that, anyways yea im still glad i modded my shit no way will i spend the money it requires to buy games I rather just not play shit than pay fo it. cuz im a gansta x[/quoteee4707923d]

for real crackdown in reality is not worth 60 dollars the game is short as hell and then you have to spend an extra for content and then the beta.

jdizzle314

20-05-2007 18:19:42

Guess i will be pulling the good old Wal Mart Swicth roo..= )

Bentley

20-05-2007 18:27:48

[quote9be309f604="michae229"][quote9be309f604="hehehhehe"]No one was cheating with a modded xbox 360, that was only with the original xbox. 360 modding only allows backups, no hacks.

You bought the hardware so you can do whatever you want with it, but you just can't play on live if you modded. MS are not bastards for doing this. If you want to play on their network, they have the right to kick you off if you modded. I don't understand all the whining.[/quote9be309f604]

yea but come on banning the console but not the live account, tells me buy another xbox and we will keep your live account active in hopes we can milk you threw there and keep you as a number to brag about how many people we have online.[/quote9be309f604]

If your modding and you know they will ban you for it why just not connect to xbox live? Hasn't this happened several times already, do people still not get it?

michae229

20-05-2007 18:49:01

[quotef0425172e3="Bentley"][quotef0425172e3="michae229"][quotef0425172e3="hehehhehe"]No one was cheating with a modded xbox 360, that was only with the original xbox. 360 modding only allows backups, no hacks.

You bought the hardware so you can do whatever you want with it, but you just can't play on live if you modded. MS are not bastards for doing this. If you want to play on their network, they have the right to kick you off if you modded. I don't understand all the whining.[/quotef0425172e3]

yea but come on banning the console but not the live account, tells me buy another xbox and we will keep your live account active in hopes we can milk you threw there and keep you as a number to brag about how many people we have online.[/quotef0425172e3]

If your modding and you know they will ban you for it why just not connect to xbox live? Hasn't this happened several times already, do people still not get it?[/quotef0425172e3]

yea i know there will be an update to the hacks hopefully soon

Jams44

20-05-2007 20:42:19

wow, i lost a lot of respect for pretty much all of you. gimme a break, if you were anything of a hacker you wouldn't get caught. you got caught cuz you downloaded the generic FW. cry a river to the police and get yourselves arrested.

michae229

20-05-2007 20:45:37

[quotee2248d751e="Jams44"]wow, i lost a lot of respect for pretty much all of you. gimme a break, if you were anything of a hacker you wouldn't get caught. you got caught cuz you downloaded the generic FW. cry a river to the police and get yourselves arrested.[/quotee2248d751e]


.....

Jams44

20-05-2007 22:21:56

yes you heard me, there are consequences for doing things illegally. i dont see how any of this is a surprise, do you think they were just going to allow free games to be made?

doylnea

20-05-2007 22:22:06

[quote392911b95a="jdizzle314"]Guess i will be pulling the good old Wal Mart Swicth roo..= )[/quote392911b95a]

I love the smell of Fraud in the morning

zr2152

20-05-2007 22:40:26

[quote0cd786c128="doylnea"][quote0cd786c128="jdizzle314"]Guess i will be pulling the good old Wal Mart Swicth roo..= )[/quote0cd786c128]

I love the smell of Fraud in the morning[/quote0cd786c128]


litte early for you doylnea? You up for the day already?

TryinToGetPaid

20-05-2007 22:41:06

Whether or not he is up for the whole day....it is still the morning.

michae229

20-05-2007 22:59:52

[quote71c0ae4a19="Jams44"]yes you heard me, there are consequences for doing things illegally. i dont see how any of this is a surprise, do you think they were just going to allow free games to be made?[/quote71c0ae4a19]

hey i do it, get over it, I'm still on live and still will never buy a game again piracy rules you know it does when M$ doesn't care if people copy their software as long as its theirs. Har Har matey

you only hurt the game if you sell it which i don't do..... anymore lol

Tholek

21-05-2007 00:04:14

This is just another reason I'm not into console gaming.

zwarrior99

21-05-2007 04:31:43

[quote3f205e365e="michae229"][quote3f205e365e="Jams44"]yes you heard me, there are consequences for doing things illegally. i dont see how any of this is a surprise, do you think they were just going to allow free games to be made?[/quote3f205e365e]

hey i do it, get over it, I'm still on live and still will never buy a game again piracy rules you know it does when M$ doesn't care if people copy their software as long as its theirs. Har Har matey

you only hurt the game if you sell it which i don't do..... anymore lol[/quote3f205e365e]

cheer maybe i luv piracy too w/e I dont care.. maybe doylnea is a douche bag I dont know I dont care..

Tholek

21-05-2007 05:15:17

Sure?

zwarrior99

21-05-2007 05:20:35

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zwarrior99

21-05-2007 05:24:56

[quotecd423a9eb8="doylnea"][quotecd423a9eb8="jdizzle314"]Guess i will be pulling the good old Wal Mart Swicth roo..= )[/quotecd423a9eb8]

I love the smell of Fraud in the morning[/quotecd423a9eb8]

OHH BTW YOUR STILL A FUCKING DOUCHE BAG!

KeithA

21-05-2007 06:19:14

[quotef5336cc611="zwarrior99"]hey thanks for the ban icon really cool shit bags, cock sucking nazi mods in this gay ass forum always a real mateur banning bunch wait for any excuse to ban you there sad pathetic lives involve looking for any slight attack on their gayness mod powers to just use there powers of cock sucking! BAN MY ASS COCK FACES YOU THINK I CARE ABOUT YOUR BANS I EAT BANS FOR FUN! TIME TO MOVE TO A REAL FORUM..[/quotef5336cc611]

That post reminds me of an erotic poetry slam I saw on HBO

Tholek

21-05-2007 06:35:45

Eating that much bans must leave him with few friends. I suggest [i699171283c]brans[/i699171283c] to alleviate the problem.

TryinToGetPaid

21-05-2007 06:42:51

Didn't he have outstanding trades? What a fuckin' fraud master.

ffactoryxx

21-05-2007 06:44:26

Funny post

michae229

21-05-2007 06:46:58

[quote298e5f34f3="ffactoryxx"]Funny post[/quote298e5f34f3]

LMAO damn that guy in yo sig gets fucked up lol some mom is going to bitch at that lol.

Bentley

21-05-2007 12:33:09

Looks like someone just waisted almost 600 posts of his entire life