Will PS3 fade out or, or win out over 360

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kelbypayday

16-05-2007 17:53:37

Aright I finally got all of my referrals needed to get either a Playstation 3, or a 360 elite. Now, what should I go with?

Will the PS3 deliver the high quality games on blue ray like it says in the future or will they just be the same terrible games that we have now. Excluding Resistance Fall of Man and Motorstorm.

Will the 360 keep delivering the good quality games that they have now and is it really worth it to buy a system just to play halo. Dont get me wrong Halo is an awesome game but will the games be able to compete with the PS3 in the future.

Help me here. PS3 or 360

manOFice

16-05-2007 18:01:56

Dude the ps3 will not out do the 360....the wii is even owning it in sales

Def go with the 360

justinag06

16-05-2007 18:03:12

360. you will get GTA4 and a lot of previous PS2 exclusives coming over to it. Plus you have a great online network now. Maybe Home will be better later, but right now ill take xbox live at $50 a year.

wait on the ps3 the price will probably drop by christmas or next spring I bet when the good games really hit it.

CustomOrderThis

16-05-2007 18:07:43

Get a 360. )

Wolfeman

16-05-2007 18:08:18

360 FTW!

dupebag

16-05-2007 18:24:14

[quote2ddefdbe53="Wolfeman"]360 FTW![/quote2ddefdbe53]

X2

tracemhunter

16-05-2007 18:53:03

It depends on how you will use it. I don't buy that many games, care more about movies, and like being able to just hook up one of my external drives to play music and hi-def videos. Therefore, I bought a PS3. I will probably pick up a 360 in the next couple of months for GHII (the controller won't work for PS3) and Gears of War. I also prefer the Playstation controller over the 360 so I will buy GTA4 on PS3. Each system has its own attributes so buy whichever based on what you will be using it for.

jy3

16-05-2007 18:59:01

imho, the ps3 will come into its own over the next year. their online community and interactive virtual world will be very interesting. there is more that can be done with games. it is a very cheap blue ray player and hopefully blue ray will be around for a while.

IMHO, the xbox currently rocks. I do not personally see a reason to get an elite over a platinum. gears of war, call of duty 2, oblivion all are games i would get right now if i was just getting a system. other games that look great are guitar hero II and crackdown looks cool to me. halo 3 will be out in september, mass effect in the fall if it ever gets released will be awesome.

I had long conversations with myself about whether or not I should get a ps3 with the money from freepay. I ended up doing it. I figure I will use the blue ray and will enjoy the web on my tv. plus the games are a bonus )

gmario

16-05-2007 19:01:31

Get the PS3 if you wanna wait for the good games )

Get the Xbox360 if you wanna play online and have a blast

Get a WII if you have a baby

With that said go with the 360 8)

h3x

16-05-2007 19:35:30

Xbox360 + HD DVD FTW

kelbypayday

16-05-2007 19:46:13

Crackdown, Gears of War, Oblivion all are great games. I know oblivion is on the PS3 right now but does it compare in graphics quality to 360. I tell you what after all of this I think I will go with the 360. I will be very angry if blue ray games become awesome though. I will prob just get a PS3 for the blue ray player. I do LOVE the hi def movies. Hopefully i can get them both for free on the trainn sites. Thanks for all the input.

michae229

17-05-2007 08:43:35

[quote423ce58803="kelbypayday"]Crackdown, Gears of War, Oblivion all are great games. I know oblivion is on the PS3 right now but does it compare in graphics quality to 360. I tell you what after all of this I think I will go with the 360. I will be very angry if blue ray games become awesome though. I will prob just get a PS3 for the blue ray player. I do LOVE the hi def movies. Hopefully i can get them both for free on the trainn sites. Thanks for all the input.[/quote423ce58803]

after seeing some of the stuff with thier conferece yesterday i think sony will have a good year in 07

Heavenly sword
Drakes Fortune
War Hawk
Ninja Gaiden
Lair
Rachet and Clank

and all the PSN stuff and ports

yea i am enjoying the 360 but can anyone tell what to expect on it this holiday season besides halo and ports?

justinag06

17-05-2007 09:16:20

Too Human
Assassin's creed
Bioshock
Mass effect
Banjo-Kazooie

michae229

17-05-2007 09:40:10

[quotef48e1e6e49="justinag06"]Too Human
Assassin's creed
Bioshock
Mass effect
Banjo-Kazooie[/quotef48e1e6e49]

i didnt name all the ps3 titles coming out in 07 but bioshock might be a port and Assassins Creed what games are exclusive to the 360 besides other than the 2 right ones you said?

hawke12

17-05-2007 10:16:24

Definately the 360, I've had mine since launch and Love it, I personally can't justify $5-600 for a "Games" console that has hardly any worthwhile games. just my 2 cents )

tylerc

17-05-2007 11:18:31

XBOX 360 if you like multiplayer even remotely.

michae229

17-05-2007 11:24:59

[quotececa685203="hawke12"]Definately the 360, I've had mine since launch and Love it, I personally can't justify $5-600 for a "Games" console that has hardly any worthwhile games. just my 2 cents )[/quotececa685203]

You have a point but i mean look what you get with the 360 and look what you get on the PS3 that is standard, but hey the only good game last year for the 360 was prey and that didnt make a big impact PS3 is were xbox was last year.

JUNIOR6886

17-05-2007 11:27:53

get a ps3. Its got a brighter future ahead of it than the 360

michae229

17-05-2007 11:36:24

[quote88d4a7e37d="JUNIOR6886"]get a ps3. Its got a brighter future ahead of it than the 360[/quote88d4a7e37d]

does it seem that M$ is confused on what to give us

!. claim HDMI is not needed
2.made the core
3.made the elite
4.we may look at a blueray add-on in the future then they retract it
5.halo demo man the whored that out lol (good business though cant hate)(even though i didnt buy crack down lol)

tylerc

17-05-2007 11:40:59

[quote255eca0dab="michae229"][quote255eca0dab="hawke12"]Definately the 360, I've had mine since launch and Love it, I personally can't justify $5-600 for a "Games" console that has hardly any worthwhile games. just my 2 cents )[/quote255eca0dab]

You have a point but i mean look what you get with the 360 and look what you get on the PS3 that is standard, but hey the only good game last year for the 360 was prey and that didnt make a big impact PS3 is were xbox was last year.[/quote255eca0dab]

You are the biggest Sony fanboy, but last year there were some [i255eca0dab]pretty big[/i255eca0dab] releases for XBOX 360, like

-Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
-Gears of War
-GRAW
-Rainbow Six Vegas

To name a few.

michae229

17-05-2007 11:57:21

[quote35b3c4d41b="tylerc"][quote35b3c4d41b="michae229"][quote35b3c4d41b="hawke12"]Definately the 360, I've had mine since launch and Love it, I personally can't justify $5-600 for a "Games" console that has hardly any worthwhile games. just my 2 cents )[/quote35b3c4d41b]

You have a point but i mean look what you get with the 360 and look what you get on the PS3 that is standard, but hey the only good game last year for the 360 was prey and that didnt make a big impact PS3 is were xbox was last year.[/quote35b3c4d41b]

You are the biggest Sony fanboy, but last year there were some [i35b3c4d41b]pretty big[/i35b3c4d41b] releases for XBOX 360, like

-Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
-Gears of War
-GRAW
-Rainbow Six Vegas

To name a few.[/quote35b3c4d41b]

you are a xbox fanboy and i have a 360 elite so im for both but prefer the ps3.I will give props on M$ firmware updates and the gui of the xbox is nice but there game support is lacking system cant live on ports forever when there is a ps3 price drop it will be over for M$ and its old technology dvd (1080p) LMAO think not.

-graw sucks
-rainbow six is on both
-elder scrolls is on both (not into this MMPO stuf)

gnznroses

17-05-2007 12:53:37

PS3.
fact is, 90% of 3rd party games are going to come out on both systems.
PS3 has free online play (it may not have video chat and other crap, but it works AOK for me)

depends on the exclusives you want really. i'll take Resistance over Halo any day. and I love Ratchet and Clank. God Of War 3 should rock, so long a they fire Corey Barlog's ass. i'm crossing my fingers for a new Twisted Metal. Heavenly Sword looks OK. Metal Gear should be awesome (i loved 1 and 3, but not 2, so i dunno).
i doubt i'll like the new FF, but i'm hoping Dragon Quest makes a return after their DS nonsense.

if you care about HD movies at all, HD-DVD is just dead.

oh, and yeah, Wii is clobbering ps3 in sales. but it's clobbering 360 too. last i heard PS2 was still outselling the 360.

gmario

17-05-2007 13:26:06

[quotee3f7f1b803="gnznroses"]PS3.
fact is, 90% of 3rd party games are going to come out on both systems.
PS3 has free online play (it may not have video chat and other crap, but it works AOK for me)

depends on the exclusives you want really. i'll take Resistance over Halo any day. and I love Ratchet and Clank. God Of War 3 should rock, so long a they fire Corey Barlog's ass. i'm crossing my fingers for a new Twisted Metal. Heavenly Sword looks OK. Metal Gear should be awesome (i loved 1 and 3, but not 2, so i dunno).
i doubt i'll like the new FF, but i'm hoping Dragon Quest makes a return after their DS nonsense.

if you care about HD movies at all, HD-DVD is just dead.

[be3f7f1b803]oh, and yeah, Wii is clobbering ps3 in sales. but it's clobbering 360 too. last i heard PS2 was still outselling the 360[/be3f7f1b803].[/quotee3f7f1b803]

Oh really? can you be detailed an say by how much?

TFOAF

17-05-2007 13:27:54

[quote024cccffb0="justinag06"]Too Human
Assassin's creed
Bioshock
Mass effect
Banjo-Kazooie[/quote024cccffb0]
Banjo-Kazooie? I thought R.A.R.E. was bought out by someone...and are they actually making another BK game? That game was the best on the 64.

michae229

17-05-2007 15:53:18

Hey anyone get banned from live i haven't but all the forums are blowing up this shit is going to backfire on M$. these guys don't know how to make a patch for shit lolololololololol!!!!!!!

PS people with legit consoles are getting banned!!!

gnznroses

17-05-2007 18:29:18

[quoted0410e41aa="gmario"]
Oh really? can you be detailed an say by how much?[/quoted0410e41aa]

not sure if this will paste in any kinda readable way, but i'll give it a try



[bd0410e41aa]APRIL US SALES[/bd0410e41aa]
[code1d0410e41aa]
PS3- 82k
360- 174k
Wii - 360k

PS2- 194k
Gamecube- 13k

DS- 471k
GBA- 84k
PSP- 183k[/code1d0410e41aa]


[bd0410e41aa]US Sales (up through March)[/bd0410e41aa]
[code1d0410e41aa]
Month 360 PS3 Wii
================================= THIS GEN SYSTEMS

2005
11 326,000
12 281,441

Tot 607,441
2005

Month 360 PS3 Wii

2006
01 249,000
02 161,000
03 192,000
04 295,381
05 220,877
06 277,000
07 206,000
08 204,000
09 259,458
10 218,000
11 511,000 197,000 476,000
12 1,100,000 490,700 604,200

Tot 3,886,716 687,700 1,080,200
2006

Month 360 PS3 Wii

2007
1 294,000 244,000 436,000
2 228,000 127,000 335,000
3 199,000 130,000 259,000

Total 721,000 501,000 1,030,000
2007

360 PS3 Wii
LTD 5,215,157 1,188,700 2,110,200







Month PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS
================================= LAST GEN SYSTEMS

2003
01 443,334 164,328 79,813
02 484,000 197,000 164,000
03 410,704 164,780 165,417
04 264,000 128,000 101,000
05 288,127 123,614 84,408
06 440,834 166,879 124,080
07 311,000 138,000 127,000
08 291,000 146,000 100,000
09 334,000 172,000 165,000
10 300,000 176,000 254,000
11 850,000 490,000 754,000
12 1,970,000 1,122,000 1,163,000

Tot 6,387,000 3,288,601 3,281,718
2003

Month PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS

2004
01 338,000 192,000 131,000
02 363,000 204,000 137,000
03 294,437 198,445 163,028
04 188,669 297,351 96,050
05 253,454 216,997 77,827
06 427,000 262,000 109,000
07 305,000 202,000 93,000
08 211,690 216,911 108,953
09 253,295 265,067 114,789
10 289,000 217,000 110,000
11 694,000 708,000 350,000 479,000
12 989,000 1,044,000 814,000 745,899

Tot 4,606,545 4,023,771 2,304,647 1,224,899
2004

Month PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS

2005
01 490,002 242,375 112,327 152,091
02 533,000 212,000 116,000 138,000
03 495,000 227,000 94,000 620,000 138,000
04 332,000 153,000 63,000 351,000 50,000
05 273,000 129,000 50,000 250,000 57,000
06 311,710 170,300 69,760 294,000 112,000
07 262,300 133,320 50,000 202,000 102,000
08 253,000 134,000 53,000 167,000 103,000
09 268,000 124,000 108,000 151,000 164,000
10 252,000 110,000 102,000 131,000 136,000
11 531,000 197,000 272,000 359,772 370,000
12 1,500,000 415,000 472,967 1,120,000 1,070,000

Tot 5,501,012 2,246,995 1,563,054 3,645,772 2,592,091
2005

Month PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS

2006
01 272,000 89,000 66,000 179,000 159,000
02 299,000 88,000 67,000 170,000 150,000
03 273,000 83,000 63,000 186,000 184,000
04 206,995 38,987 38,028 162,438 138,427
05 231,616 26,353 33,040 159,659 145,930
06 312,000 24,000 51,000 221,000 593,000
07 241,000 12,000 44,000 161,000 377,000
08 262,000 9,000 41,000 146,000 278,000
09 306,517 6,495 42,286 153,353 403,435
10 235,000 3,500 32,000 130,000 360,000
11 664,000 5,000 65,000 412,000 918,000
12 1,400,000 li li 953,200 1,600,000

Tot 4,703,128 385,335 501,354 3,033,650 5,306,792
2006

Month PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS

2007
1 299,000 li 34,000 211,000 239,000
2 295,000 li 24,000 176,000 485,000
3 280,000 li 22,000 180,000 508,000

Total 874,000 li 80,000 567,000 1,232,000
2007

PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS
Total
03 22,071,685 9,941,702 7,771,773 7,246,422 10,355,782
to date

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[bd0410e41aa]Japan sales[/bd0410e41aa]
[code1d0410e41aa]
Date X360 PS3 Wii
================================= THIS GEN SYSTEMS

2007
-01/07 18,235 69,944 195,331
-01/14 9,035 25,531 93,708
-01/21 7,041 21,105 86,395
-01/28 7,365 19,996 83,754
-02/04 6,130 18,727 65,740
-02/11 4,811 23,431 78,550
-02/18 5,210 20,676 63,618
-02/25 4,183 19,315 78,506
-03/04 3,379 44,000 57,972
-03/11 3,333 32,115 44,495
-03/18 2,910 21,635 67,070
-03/25 3,492 20,459 75,571
-04/01 3,889 16,889 51,365
-04/08 2,963 14,520 52,583
-04/15 2,900 11,948 75,759
-04/22 2,307 11,000 77,913
-04/29 3,299 12,366 81,194

Total 90,482 403,657 1,329,524
2007

X360 PS3 Wii
LTD 350,835 861,215 2,249,167









Date PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS
================================= LAST GEN SYSTEMS

2007
-01/07 52,037 li 1,258 118,186 344,953
-01/14 22,663 li 611 48,804 89,328
-01/21 20,169 li 554 37,032 127,647
-01/28 20,995 li 347 35,700 194,526
-02/04 17,540 li 306 31,216 146,192
-02/11 16,033 li 383 32,175 201,177
-02/18 16,192 li 347 34,505 136,846
-02/25 15,054 li 323 100,210 136,128
-03/04 15,364 li 303 66,156 111,814
-03/11 14,585 li 240 56,175 108,512
-03/18 13,321 li 367 43,769 121,471
-03/25 16,961 li 270 41,546 130,549
-04/01 17,787 li 205 39,077 79,897
-04/08 14,234 li 255 31,503 110,845
-04/15 12,872 li 167 24,850 133,325
-04/22 11,398 li 266 29,459 172,359
-04/29 12,271 li 283 29,309 210,233

Total 309,476 li 6,485 799,672 2,555,975
2007

Total PS2 Xbox GC PSP DS
2004 6,719,695 51,971 1,076,114 5,291,482 15,759,824
to date

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[bd0410e41aa]Lifetime US sales[/bd0410e41aa]
[code1d0410e41aa]On a life-to-date basis, the hardware install bases in the U.S. now look like this:
PS2 38.2 million
GBA 35.7 million
GameCube 11.7 million
Nintendo DS 10.9 million
PSP 7.4 million
Xbox 360 5.4 million
Wii 2.5 million
PS3 1.3 million [/code1d0410e41aa]

hehehhehe

17-05-2007 18:31:12

I guess the mass banning was bound to happen sooner or later. Fortunately, my 360 died AGAIN so I haven't connected or been banned AFAIK.

I feel sorry for the many people with unmodded 360s who got banned.

As for which one to get, both have their pros and cons (and fanboys) so just consider what you want out of it and take your pick. I think if I had the choice I'd go for the PS3.

michae229

17-05-2007 18:39:54

[quotefaf063f7e7="hehehhehe"]I guess the mass banning was bound to happen sooner or later. Fortunately, my 360 died AGAIN so I haven't connected or been banned AFAIK.

I feel sorry for the many people with unmodded 360s who got banned.

As for which one to get, both have their pros and cons (and fanboys) so just consider what you want out of it and take your pick. I think if I had the choice I'd go for the PS3.[/quotefaf063f7e7]

dont get me wrong i like the updates with the 360 and the spring makes it easy to get around the whole achievements and gamer card is good too.

kelbypayday

17-05-2007 18:52:56

After all of this I think I am getting the PS3. I LOVE the blu ray movies and the games are ok now. I am just hoping that the games coming up will get better. There does seem to be a few good ones. Thanks for all the input.

What do you think.....i should get some karma points for this thread. I had to help out more people than just myself haha

michae229

17-05-2007 19:03:42

[quotea3d910e178="kelbypayday"]After all of this I think I am getting the PS3. I LOVE the blu ray movies and the games are ok now. I am just hoping that the games coming up will get better. There does seem to be a few good ones. Thanks for all the input.

What do you think.....i should get some karma points for this thread. I had to help out more people than just myself haha[/quotea3d910e178]

go to gametrailers.com and check out sony's gamers day release.

kelbypayday

17-05-2007 19:05:59

Im checking it out now ill tell ya what I think. Thanks for the site.

gnznroses

17-05-2007 19:21:11

Home looks interesting.
Lair i think will disappoint.
i mentioned Heavenly Sword and i think it'll be pretty good. hard to say atm.
as for non-exclusives, i'm looking forward to Mercs 3 and of course GTA.

kelbypayday

17-05-2007 19:35:56

I agree with you gnznroses except for lair. I think it will be a great game. Hopefully I will have my PS3 in time to play it. GTA will be awesome though as usual. Heavenly sword might be good and im not decided on Home yet.

michae229

17-05-2007 20:08:11

[quote93bab8137f="kelbypayday"]I agree with you gnznroses except for lair. I think it will be a great game. Hopefully I will have my PS3 in time to play it. GTA will be awesome though as usual. Heavenly sword might be good and im not decided on Home yet.[/quote93bab8137f]

i really wish GTA was an exclusive after seeing devs complain about both systems the 360 is restraining it the most with its dvd formate and having to worry about the people with cores. even though ps3 has lack of ram it has the most space.

gnznroses

17-05-2007 21:47:28

ps3 has just as much ram, unless you count the fact that the ps3 os uses more ram than 360's "blade" os.
bluray can be a lil slower than dvd, but you can always cache data on the harddrive. can't count on a harddrive with 360. plus there's the matter of squeezing it onto 1 dvd, which they recently said in an interview they haven't yet figured out...

Excel

17-05-2007 23:36:01

I think the PS3 will really pick up steam soon.
-Rumored price drop - the current 60 GB model will drop to $500, and a new 120 GB will replace it - supposed to occur in Octoberish.
-Blu Ray is owning HD DVD. Just in terms of games, Blu Ray offers almost double the amount of space as HD DVD, so it should be able to offer alot more content.
-MS has been kinda finicky over prices and what they wanna include, been really hypocritical(bash Sony for including HDMI, huge hard drives, built in BR and other 'useless features' and then come out with the Elite for close to the price of the PS3).
-Sony's past performance should be enough to vouch for it again
-MS has shown it doesn't support its system once its dead, no more XBox games are being produced(besides ports), where as the PS2 is still alive and kicking - goes to show you something there.
-The jump start out of the gate tactic has never worked

I mean honestly, the 360 has been out for a year and a half, of course its gonna have a step up on the PS3. But how many quality titles, besides Gears, have come out that are 360 exclusive? Everyone bashes Sony for losing exclusives, but I can't think of any big name 360 exclusives coming out besides Halo 3.

360 is better then PS3 right now, but I think the PS3 will win out eventually.

This is coming from someone who owns both, so I consider myself

gnznroses

18-05-2007 13:32:22

yeah, you're right MS will simply bash ps3 for everything it does. i'm sure dony does a good deal of ms-bashing as well, but it was funny when peter moore, when asked about folding@home for 360, he said he didn't see where ps3 was doing any good for f@h.
this is when about 30,000 ps3s is making up 60% of f@h's computing power (with, i dunno, 500,000+ participating cpus)