Rap music makes you stupid....

Take it from me..... wink

It's true....

That's quite a provocative statement.

(I will admit that sometimes it really seems like it. lol )

I like some rap

It's a proven fact... I'm looking for a job that will actually pay me more than $10 per hour and it's like pulling teeth.... it's not my area that's bad but the fact that I have absolutely no skills to do any quality positions....

So ya it's true becuase when were in our 20's we wanted to be gangsters....

I'd say it's more the attitude and mentality you had when you were growing up. Rap could very well have possibly had an influence on it. I'm sorry to hear that though. Maybe you can try getting started at a community college or something.

Its your surroundings..... and rap is usually a very negative based mostly of fantasy. It's a music that pretty much way off base from reality....


I'm moving to Dallas, TX in July so I hope that can help.

lo f'n l

this is got to be the funniest topi cever raised. Rap music is retarded but you grow up out of the phase of wanting to be a thug. Well at least I did.

I make very good money and rap music has not slowed me down one bit. Id did learn however to speak more disciplined when in a corporate environment however. No more yo, holla back, and/or what up shorty let me hit that around the office no more... well unless we are all young and just joking around. Actually Ive noticed older people who grew up on rock constantly curse about work. Like fuck, shit, bullshit, and bitch are commonly heard words around the office.

Well anyways rap music is just music.. If you let it dictate your life then you have no one to blame but yourself. Stop being so impressionable and just be yourself. Oh ya no doo rags or hoodies to job interviews.

[quotee853ef5bab="good2speed"]lo f'n l

this is got to be the funniest topi cever raised. Rap music is retarded but you grow up out of the phase of wanting to be a thug. Well at least I did.

I make very good money and rap music has not slowed me down one bit. Id did learn however to speak more disciplined when in a corporate environment however. No more yo, holla back, and/or what up shorty let me hit that around the office no more... well unless we are all young and just joking around. Actually Ive noticed older people who grew up on rock constantly curse about work. Like fuck, shit, bullshit, and bitch are commonly heard words around the office.

Well anyways rap music is just music.. If you let it dictate your life then you have no one to blame but yourself. Stop being so impressionable and just be yourself. Oh ya no doo rags or hoodies to job interviews.[/quotee853ef5bab]

Are you white?

yo does it matter? u can be white and gangsta haha

don't listen to these wussies, just get a line and start slingin' yay

you'll be a gangster in no time

[quote93337b6353="topbillin1"]Its your surroundings..... and rap is usually a very negative based mostly of fantasy. It's a music that pretty much way off base from reality....


I'm moving to Dallas, TX in July so I hope that can help.[/quote93337b6353]

Hope you are not moving to the Oak Cliff or East Dallas area. Otherwise you will be back where you started.

[quotefa42224ac2="J4320"]yo does it matter? u can be white and gangsta haha[/quotefa42224ac2]

I asked that question since he works in corporate America and he seems to know a little about rap music.... not that we colored folks cannot do the same but it's a bit harder...

In general though, his reply was pretty much off base, he apparently didn't read the title and thread.

[quote09493e1403="tracemhunter"][quote09493e1403="topbillin1"]Its your surroundings..... and rap is usually a very negative based mostly of fantasy. It's a music that pretty much way off base from reality....


I'm moving to Dallas, TX in July so I hope that can help.[/quote09493e1403]

Hope you are not moving to the Oak Cliff or East Dallas area. Otherwise you will be back where you started.[/quote09493e1403]

It's out by Frisco.... were the black guys act like squares.... wink

rap is absoultely disgusting, vile and repugnant. If you were truly intelligent in the first place you'd never let that garbage bring you down.

[quotee3ac14e7be="topbillin1"][quotee3ac14e7be="J4320"]yo does it matter? u can be white and gangsta haha[/quotee3ac14e7be]

I asked that question since he works in corporate America and he seems to know a little about rap music.... not that we colored folks cannot do the same but it's a bit harder...

In general though, his reply was pretty much off base, he apparently didn't read the title and thread.[/quotee3ac14e7be]

well Im not white but I am colored. I have plenty of black friends though that used to dress thuggish in hs and college and I see them now wearing vests, ties, and 3 piece suits to work now. its just a part of growing up

trust me its all music and not just rap. While In oregon I rmeemebr seing people with green colored hair in corporate settings. Also saw a lot of west coast Hells angels look alikes with all the tats on the west coast.

and rap music only makes you dumb if you allow it to make you dumb. My best advice would be you dont want to take the advice of a former drug dealer or the advice of someone pretending to be a drug dealer just to sell records. Then again I wouldnt take any advice from some of the rock bands from the 60/70's. And dont even get me started on how retarded those mo kids are. Puts on flame resitant suit

Speak for yourself. I listened to rap as a kid and it didn't hurt me one bit. So i think you were the problem cause you're the one who wasn't mature enough to know that being a "gangster" would get you nowhere. It's kinda scary that you said "when we(you) were in our [ubec46dbc16][bbec46dbc16]li20'sli[/bbec46dbc16][/ubec46dbc16] we (you) wanted to....... I knew better when i was 14

Not all music and most music doesn't have nowhere near a hard effect as hip-hop does to the black youth... maybe to other races it may be different but it for it's pretty much culture for us and it's something that destroy us from a young age and when we're ready to get into the workforce we have no idea and no skills to do so.

Seriously, like 80% of the posts in this thread have been totally stupid.

Rap is a music genre. Music is a form of expression; it does not influence people—they're drawn to certain forms of expression based on their own influences.

That's like saying listening to classical music will make you smarter. roll

Welcome to America, where people refuse to take responsibility for their own failures and blame it on everything else.

[quote511aa49b20="tylerc"]Welcome to America, where people refuse to take responsibility for their own failures and blame it on everything else.[/quote511aa49b20]
Amen

I like raps yo, i rap in my business suit.

I let my money talk, I let my money talk fuh me.

[quotef3d1e9bd79="topbillin1"]Not all music and most music doesn't have nowhere near a hard effect as hip-hop does to the black youth... maybe to other races it may be different but it for it's pretty much culture for us and it's something that destroy us from a young age and when we're ready to get into the workforce we have no idea and no skills to do so.[/quotef3d1e9bd79]

once again stop being so impressionable. I understand black people from all over are integrated into that culture and the majority of blacks like to take pride in that culture. From hiphop to basketball I know black people follow their stars.

Its a little sad for me though that these are the black leaders now. In the 60's you had MLk, Malcolm X, and Mohammed Ali(great humanitarian/social thinker). Nowadays all you have is maybe Obama, Tupac(well hes dead), Lil Wayne, and Allen Iverson as the black leaders. No original black thought or movement being visible and it makes me upset that rappers keep dumbing down the genre and as a result dumbing down the peopel who listen and subscribe to it. Even thoguh in the 90's you had gangsta rap you also had a lot of intelligent and thought provoking rap. Today all you have is someone trying to sell an image and that image just happens to be thuggin, disrespecting women, dealin drugs, murderin cops, snowmen, lettin it rain, and leaning with it.

Rap does not have to be dumb. Its the artists and the labels that they work for that make it dumb. It is a genre and can be expressed in any way the creator wants it too. Id also blame society for this mess as we are attracted to violence and descriptions of violenc e and gangsterisms. Hard to find a solution.. but if you search hard enough you will find a rap artist that enlightens you and makes you feel proud to be a fan of rap.


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And from what Ive heard you must be careful visiting FIPG. If you're black Ive heard your street cred drops a few notches for every visit to FIPG. Just ask Junior... hes practically white with all the time hes spent on this site. wink [/sizef3d1e9bd79]

I listened to rap for about two weeks in my life...when I was about 11 or 12. Then I stopped.

[quoteba9609c184="Admin"]don't listen to these wussies, just get a line and start slingin' yay

you'll be a gangster in no time[/quoteba9609c184]

u bettr b stayin of my bloc, G.

[quoteba9609c184="tylerc"]Welcome to America, where people refuse to take responsibility for their own failures and blame it on everything else.[/quoteba9609c184]

I take complete responsibility for my failures. I'm a perfect example of "fuck around in school, get in trouble with the police and be as qualified as a brick".

That's not to say that people with no qualifications are;

a.) Less intelligent than people with qualifications
b.) Destined for a life of abject poverty
c.) Can never do anything with their life or change their qualification stature

[quote6c39c374ec="TFOAF"]I listened to rap for about two weeks in my life...when I was about 11 or 12. Then I stopped.[/quote6c39c374ec]

ya you're too young to have caught the golden era of rap music. Late 80's till the late 90's

chris rock sums this subject up best

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9A2I-X7b-w

A double post means you're banned.

oh well. Its been fun on fipg.

[quote9ee0253b83="TryinToGetPaid"]A double post means you're banned.[/quote9ee0253b83]can't speak for the rest of the staff but i'm much more likely to react to backseat modding than a trivial double post (timestamps are a minute apart)

listening to retarded bands shout and scream bullshit to their hopped up, idiot fans, is supposed to make you smart i guess?

[quote6953d64e4f="good2speed"][quote6953d64e4f="TFOAF"]I listened to rap for about two weeks in my life...when I was about 11 or 12. Then I stopped.[/quote6953d64e4f]

ya you're too young to have caught the golden era of rap music. Late 80's till the late 90's[/quote6953d64e4f]
......? I didn't say I was 12 now. I'm 18 now...rap music just sucks and the people who sing it have no talent. All they do is rhyme words with cursing and the words "mom" and "closet."

Listen to some Z-Ro. He will put you right.

I agree with good2speed that not all rap is about thugging and disrespecting women & authority figures, and promoting drug use.

I can't stand thug/gangster rap, but I do enjoy tasteful and artistic rap. Yeah, I said artistic, I know people will argue that all of it is artistic, but I'd rather subscribe to my own definition of art, thank you very much. ;)

Being older than most of you and having a pretty varied taste in music, I remember a lot of the early rap and I enjoyed it then. The first "official" rap song that I remember was Sugar Hill Gang's Rapper's Delight. I owned the [iff5526d735]vinyl[/iff5526d735] LP and used to play it over and over and over, memorizing all of the words. Mind you, the full cut of Rapper's Delight was like 20 minutes long, non-stop. Some 30+ years later I still remember a lot of it, and now the tune is in my head again. lol

So don't generalize all rap as bad. However the culture around the "street" rap is definitely responsible for young people being perhaps unfairly judged. In our youth we like to think that we're only responsible to ourselves and that society has no business judging us and telling us how to act. Then we grow up and realize there are pretty much two groups of people in the world those who continue to embrace the ideological culture of their youth ("I don't care what everybody else thinks of me"), and those who succeed. In our society, you don't succeed without some degree of social acceptance. So you either grow out of it and compromise those youthful ideals, or you grow old blaming society for all of your problems. In other words, it's about [bff5526d735]personal responsibility[/bff5526d735].

dmorris FTW.. good analsis. Just a little upset that I too have the Rapper's Delight song in my head. Who wouldve thoguht rap would make it this far 30 years ago.

[quote820a102f86="good2speed"]

once again stop being so impressionable. I understand black people from all over are integrated into that culture and the [b820a102f86]majority of blacks like to take pride in that culture. From hiphop to basketball I know black people follow their stars. [/b820a102f86] [/quote820a102f86]

I agree with everything you said but just needed to point out a miscommunication. 2/3 black people admitted that they think todays rap/hiphop industry is one of the biggest problems. A majority of the 1/3 who didn't see it as a negative of course were youth.




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I personally like rap/hip-hop more than anything else. The only other kind of music I listen to is possibly rock, and not that heavy metal stuff either, I just get headaches from that..

Chrscott22, you seem to know an awful lot about me for someone who joined 2 days ago.... roll

if i wanted to be white id wear polo shirts with horizontal strips with a popped collar and listen to fall out boy and death cab for cutie

[quote40a95e23b7="JUNIOR6886"]Chrscott22, you seem to know an awful lot about me for someone who joined 2 days ago.... roll[/quote40a95e23b7]

he quoted me wrong. I was the one who made that comment. Look up a few posts.

[quote40a95e23b7="JUNIOR6886"]
if i wanted to be white id wear polo shirts with horizontal strips with a popped collar and listen to fall out boy and death cab for cutie[/quote40a95e23b7]

like you dont do that anyways...

[quotef7d13c6275="JUNIOR6886"]if i wanted to be white id wear polo shirts with horizontal strips with a popped collar and listen to fall out boy and death cab for cutie[/quotef7d13c6275]

Now, if a white person said, "if I wanted to be black, I'd wear Fubu, carry a gun, rob people, and listen to rap.", that would be offensive and racist. But since you are black and said it about white people, it's not.

I'm white, don't listen to Fall Out Boy, and don't pop my collar.

This should be good...

[quote66e42e90a1="topbillin1"]Its your surroundings..... and rap is usually a very negative based mostly of fantasy. It's a music that pretty much way off base from reality....


I'm moving to Dallas, TX in July so I hope that can help.[/quote66e42e90a1]

I am sorry to say, but Dallas won't help...I haven't read this whole thread but I live in Dallas and used to date a guy that moved to Dallas to "help him" get away from the "ghetto" and rap music but he is still the same piece of shit he was when he moved here and it has been 2 years. So rap or no rap, it doesn't matter. I like rap music, I have forever and I am graduating college work full time don't need help from anyone financially...so what's wrong with rap? I don't get it.

ok, now that I have read more of the post...good luck with this one, I don't even know where to start. I think I'll just sit back and listen seeing as I am a white girl that doesn't pop my collar or listen to fall out boy or chris rock, or carry a gun, or bash rap music.

Peace out fools, check you later ganstas, my white ass it OUT!


P.S I did not mean for this to be a bad comment in any way, just a little out there tonight. Thinking that this whole post is pointless, cause music is music and the way you interpret it is your problem....

[quote76d9e8f5ad="tylerc"][quote76d9e8f5ad="JUNIOR6886"]if i wanted to be white id wear polo shirts with horizontal strips with a popped collar and listen to fall out boy and death cab for cutie[/quote76d9e8f5ad]

Now, if a white person said, "if I wanted to be black, I'd wear Fubu, carry a gun, rob people, and listen to rap.", that would be offensive and racist. But since you are black and said it about white people, it's not.[/quote76d9e8f5ad]

you forgot about eating friend chicken and watermelon (

What i said is only offensive and racist if you take it seriously. I expected you to be smarter than that... whoops roll

BTW im expecting you to send my reparations check by the end of the week P

You forgot sitting on the porch all day smoking Newports.

I was eight when I first heard "Award Tour" by A Tribe Called Quest on the soundtrack of Thrasher Skate And Destroy (for PS1, hah... I loved that game). I didn't even know what hip hop was at the time, but it was the first song that got me interested in music in general.

Thousands of dollars worth of music and music paraphernalia and it's still one of my favorite songs of all time.


EDIT As for Hip Hop being past its time So what? Do you think Rock, Blues, Jazz, Techno, Opera, or any other genre is still in its prime? Explore past artists and work a little harder at finding the ones today that are still as good as their predecessors.

[quote3695c76551="JJPRO11"]listening to retarded bands shout and scream bullshit to their hopped up, idiot fans, is supposed to make you smart i guess?[/quote3695c76551]

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAhFp-W3_Nc
Dimmu Borgir's Spellbound (by the devil) sounds a hell of a lot better than any rap song I can think of.

lol have u heard linkin park colission course with jay z.. its actually good!

The problem with Rap today is that the majority of the people who are into the Hip-Hop culture don't realize that the talent is better than ever but harder to find. Then you have those that don't like Rap and never give it a chance, there is such thing as intelligent rap and there's tons of it, it's just mostly underground.

I hate the commercial rap on TV and radio, it's the whole reason Nas dropped the new album "Hip Hop is Dead". That's what most people hear and it's killing the rep of the Hip-Hop community.

For starters...
Lupe Fiasco
Sage Francis
The Last Emporer
KRS One
The Roots
Greydon Square
Pharoe Monch
Dilated Peoples
MF Doom
Mos Def
Talib Kweli

Barely even scratched the surface, I would argue that this generation's rap is better than it ever has been and it's only getting better. All of the above named artists are extremely intelligent and have political and personal themes in every one of their songs (except club hoppers which are for fun). I don't like it when people bash rap because chances are they know nothing about it. It's one of the main reasons I am who I am today and basically the whole reason I am so open-minded and never judge things before I get to ACTUALLY know it.

I could name a hundred rappers who are never heard but have an incredible talent and positive message.

Listen to Sage Francis "Mullet", one of the best spoken word/poems of all time.

Rap is all about the upliftment of humanity. Believe that.

[quotec8541384e6="Jenncherry99"]cause music is music and the way you interpret it is your problem....[/quotec8541384e6]
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[quoted7abd3c528="Admin"][quoted7abd3c528="Jenncherry99"]cause music is music and the way you interpret it is your problem....[/quoted7abd3c528]
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You can say that about 99% of problems or arguements or threads, but the debate is the fun part wink

[quotec1a7a66638="tylerc"][quotec1a7a66638="JUNIOR6886"]if i wanted to be white id wear polo shirts with horizontal strips with a popped collar and listen to fall out boy and death cab for cutie[/quotec1a7a66638]

Now, if a white person said, "if I wanted to be black, I'd wear Fubu, carry a gun, rob people, and listen to rap.", that would be offensive and racist. But since you are black and said it about white people, it's not.

I'm white, don't listen to Fall Out Boy, and don't pop my collar.[/quotec1a7a66638]
Im white and Ive never even heard of Fall Out Boy and Death Cab for Cutie. ?

my point was pretty clear.... It wasn't a bash on white people.

Junior - What is that guy saying right before he lays that girl out in your sig?

Dude, get real. Rap music is not a religion so you can't blame it for your failures. Rap music does give youngsters the wrong impressions, but it's like watching movies. It's all for entertainment and not to be taken seriously. I would recommend listening to classical music to back track all the damage rap music has done.

Welcome to Dallas, BTW. I hope you like it. Frisco is a nice suburban neighborhood. You won't get in much trouble there D