Music piracy crackdown

I just read this article here http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18644781/wid/11915829?GT1=9951[]http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18644781/wid/11915829?GT1=9951
The RIAA is basically punishing people for downloading illegal music. All the people in the artilce used limewire and ares so I was wondering if you can get caught if you use torrents. Are torrents safe from the RIAA?

no they can be as dangerous

use newsgroups and be almost 100 percent invisible to the riaa.

private torrents ftw anyways

I always go to some unsecure wifi and do it that way.... I've heard that you really get caught when you share the files or have more of a chance of being caught. It's always a risk though.

If you are using a standard torrent program - basically if you are downloading the files you are sharing them at the same time. There are programs that use a know IP list of the RIAA and won't let your torrent program connect with that known list, but that becomes a cat and mouse game of them getting new IPs and having them added to the list.

If you just want a specific song I've found that youtube has music videos for most of the songs I've tried and that's a good place to get a fix. Otherwise just be careful.

And yes if you are using a public IP you are safe since it's the IP that gets tracked.

The most ridiculous part is that the artists who get these songs downloaded never see any of the RIAA settlement money. It all goes right back into their "war chest"

Yeah it's stupid.

[quote5fbb7520f2="cubbieco"]If you are using a standard torrent program - basically if you are downloading the files you are sharing them at the same time. There are programs that use a know IP list of the RIAA and won't let your torrent program connect with that known list, but that becomes a cat and mouse game of them getting new IPs and having them added to the list.

If you just want a specific song I've found that youtube has music videos for most of the songs I've tried and that's a good place to get a fix. Otherwise just be careful.

And yes if you are using a public IP you are safe since it's the IP that gets tracked.[/quote5fbb7520f2]

If you want a specific song I'd recommend using this --

http//www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/site/music-plus/

[quote1e142e8580="Kidd"]no they can be as dangerous

use newsgroups and be almost 100 percent invisible to the riaa.

private torrents ftw anyways[/quote1e142e8580]

i never understood what newsgroups is...what is it? ?

[quote8a5cf31da7="akalic"][quote8a5cf31da7="Kidd"]no they can be as dangerous

use newsgroups and be almost 100 percent invisible to the riaa.

private torrents ftw anyways[/quote8a5cf31da7]

i never understood what newsgroups is...what is it? ?[/quote8a5cf31da7]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=23546&highlight=newsgroup

what about some of those warez forums? finding them there and downloading from rapidshare?

Jesus. I'm glad I have only downloaded like 5 - 10 songs from LimeWire, and now I pay a monthly fee to download from iMesh for legal music )

They are still cracking down on music? I figured they had given up to put more effort in cracking down or movies and games ...

[quotec09e18143d="patrick_7412"]Jesus. I'm glad I have only downloaded like 5 - 10 songs from LimeWire, and now I pay a monthly fee to download from iMesh for legal music )[/quotec09e18143d]

Soulseek FTW

[quote93ef9e2c38="moviemadnessman"]They are still cracking down on music? I figured they had given up to put more effort in cracking down or movies and games ...[/quote93ef9e2c38]

They in this case is the RIAA. They only care about music and they are going strong.

MPAA cares about movies and from what I hear they are going strong as well.

Game companies aren't actively suing users at this time that I know of. I believe they try to get the torrent hosting websites taken down with mixed results, but I'm not even sure about that.

Television companies aren't actively suing for torrents at this time either. They seem to be more worried about youtube and the like.

I regularly download television shows that I miss because I work nights and don't have any worries about being sued. I do watch the tech news sites in case they start going after television torrents.

People still use the crap that is Limewire?? Anyways, I only use private torrents. I think for the most part I am pretty safe, but it's always a chance no matter what....

I got a TV show off PirateBay and got a letter from the studio about it. Use PeerGuardian but more than that, stay off public trackers...

what about places like rapidshare???? you get the links on warez forums.

Like Projectw?

They are good - never have had any problems and if you do go to ProjectW, check out my Stickied Xbox Game thread, its a h00t.

School networks are dangerous...Warner bros busted me for movie downloads in college

well, after reading the article, seems like it is just on college networks... i feel better about downloading a song or two every once in a while at home... our school network blocked the ports for all of those sites...

Purdue basically gave RIAA the information they needed to go after students using anything outside of the local network (aka torrents and LimeWire) and may go further. I stuck to the local network on the wireless internet so the chances of them bothering me are slim.

This scares me seeing as how i am probably going to be using the campus internet connection soon = (

Not to rain on everbody's parade, but just to clarify the risks

Trust me, it isn't just campus networks they're going after. As far as music sharing goes, that's probably the single biggest demographic so the RIAA focus will be there, but I know many folks who've received DMCA or Copyright Violation cease & desist orders from their home ISP's for things like movies and software downloads. I know that Sonic (the software company) was busting people like that. And remember a year or so ago when several thousand folks were served by the RIAA, including many parents and grandparents who had no idea what their kids were doing on the computers at home.

Peerguardian has been proven to be almost entirely ineffective at its stated mission, and in fact makes the P2P experience worse for you since it adds overhead and blocks many innocent but productive peers. For the same reason that any static IP list is obsolete as soon as it's published. Those types of lists are just never reliable. IP addresses can be changed in a virtual instant, and the RIAA, MPAA, BSA, and other interested parties contract with companies that specialize in internet crime and investigations. They know all about the IP blacklists. Do you think the RIAA sits in their offices with their static IP and attempts to P2P with you from their riaa.com (or whatever) domain? No, they have outside contractors doing it from various locations, often times even from their homes over dynamic connections just like we have. So you'd be very foolish to think you're gaining much protection from a simple blacklist.

Some private trackers may be safer, but most of the popular and well known ones? No way. Even OiNK, with it's pretty strict invite and ratio policies, are big enough now that there's no doubt in my mind they've been infiltrated. The fact they're located in the UK is only a small consolation, since most of our ally nations work with us on DMCA & copyright enforcement. Demonoid is so saturated and easy to get into (they have open enrollments most Friday's) that there's no doubt in my mind that THEY'VE got agents all over the place.

So play with fire, and you just might be burned. ;)

I am part of one that NO ONE knows about )

So mysterious Wolfeman, do tell...

;)

It is hidden and doesn't accept new invites. If you went to the URL it would look like nothing. I can only guess at the member list but its gotta be 10K+. No one talks about it so they don't get banned and even if they did tell people it wouldn't help because no new invites...

so basically if youre downloading in your house, you wont get caught?? i dont get it..

theres a law that BILL GATES signed...

that you cannot get into someones computer, even if it was an FBI and search for files.. its considered trespassing but in Computer term... its hacking..

wow you must be a cool puppy wink wink

[quote359d826957="puppeteer"]so basically if youre downloading in your house, you wont get caught?? i dont get it..[/quote359d826957]
NOoooooooooooo

[quote13cdf74e4a="Wolfeman"];)

It is hidden and doesn't accept new invites. If you went to the URL it would look like nothing. I can only guess at the member list but its gotta be 10K+. No one talks about it so they don't get banned and even if they did tell people it wouldn't help because no new invites...[/quote13cdf74e4a]

I'm scared. shock

[quote52853d1792="puppeteer"]so basically if youre downloading in your house, you wont get caught?? i dont get it..[/quote52853d1792]
What? Not at all. You're just as likely, if not more so. It's a lot easier to nail a household down to a public IP at a given point in time than it is a student on a college network, where the public IP has to be translated to one of many thousands of private IP's in most cases.

[quote52853d1792="puppeteer"]theres a law that BILL GATES signed...

that you cannot get into someones computer, even if it was an FBI and search for files.. its considered trespassing but in Computer term... its hacking..[/quote52853d1792]
LOL, I think you're a tad confused. First of all, Bill Gates doesn't "sign" laws, or otherwise have anything to do with laws. And the FBI can most certainly get into your computer with a warrant (or arguably without one). Besides, seeing what you're downloading and sharing does not involve "trespassing" or "hacking" in any way.

Here are 2 places that will help if you do get caught
www.subpoenadefense.org
www.usiia.org

If I use MP3Sparks, can the RIAA still sue me?