Funny Hilliary Clinton Lies...

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box86rowh

08-05-2007 14:36:08

Truth List

li The truth on Hillary's desire to run for office...

"People think that because I care so much about public issues, I should run for office myself. I don't want to run for office."
-Stated in 1997 - three years before Hillary's run for Senate in New York - in her book, The Unique Voice of Hillary Rodham Clinton A Portrait in Her Own Words by Hillary Rodham Clinton and Claire G. Osborne, p. 63, Avon Books.

Tim Russert "Would you accept the nomination [in 2004] for president or vice president?"
Hillary Clinton "No."
Russert "Will you run in 2008?"
HRC "I have no plans to run for president"
-Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press," 9/15/02

Don't let history repeat itself! Click here to stop Hillary.

li The truth on Hillary's feelings about brave law enforcement officials...

"[My] personal trained Pigs!"
-Hillary's opinion of her Secret Service guards; Unlimited Access, p. 90, by Gary Aldrich, Regency Publishing, Inc. 1996.

And, back at Yale, Hillary helped edit the Yale Review of Law and Social Action, a left-wing journal which promoted cop-killing and featured cartoons of pig-faced police. (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay, 1999 pp. 59-61)

li The truth on Hillary's family heritage...

"Before I was born, a man named Sir Edmund Hillary became famous for being the first person to climb Mount Everest. My father named me after him as a symbolic message that I could achieve anything I wanted in life... that I could climb ANY mountain..."
-Hillary Clinton explains in 1996 how she got her name; CounterClintonLibrary.com. She was born five years before Edmund Hillary scaled Everest. The year she was born, he was an unknown beekeeper.

li The truth on Hillary's socialist background...

Hillary’s activist work at Yale, monitoring the civil rights of the Black Panthers, won her a summer internship at the Berkeley office of attorney Robert Treuhaft in 1972. A hardline Stalinist, Treuhaft had quit the Communist Party in 1958 only because it was losing members and no longer provided a good platform for his activism. (Barbara Olson, 1999, pp. 56-57)

"Treuhaft is a man who dedicated his entire legal career to advancing the agenda of the Soviet Communist Party and the KGB," notes historian Stephen Schwartz. (David Brock, 1996, p33)

In the March 5, 1992 issue of the New York Review of Books, Gary Wills examined Mrs. Clinton's writings on child rights; he notes that Mrs. Clinton "returns to a classical concept of all social activity as political" - and thus within the sphere of state authority. Wills explains further "In the past, the child's rights were asserted vicariously through the parent. Ms. Clinton sees those rights as, at times, to be asserted against the parent.... [T]his has always been recognized in abuse cases. But she would extend it much farther."

Regarding HRC's Health-Care Reform Plan When she was traveling across the country promoting her health plan, a woman complained that she did not want to get pigeon-holed into a plan that was not of her choosing.
HRC's response "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals."

li The truth on Hillary's grab for power...

"Glilidammit Bill, you promised me that office!"
The infamous Inauguration Day fight, Jan. 20, 1993, over her promised office in the White House, which traditionally goes to the vice president; Bill & Hillary The Marriage, p. 258; by Christopher Anderson, William Morrow & Co., 1999.

"We have to destroy her."
-Hillary speaking of Gennifer Flowers, during the 1992 primaries, after Flowers revealed her long-term affair with Gov. Clinton; The Final Days p. 13, by Barbara Olson, Regnery Publishing 2001.

"Who is going to find out? These women are all trash. Nobody's going to believe them."
Circa the '92 presidential campaign, her opinion of the many women who claimed they had a relationship with Gov. Clinton; Bill & Hillary The Marriage p. 220, by Christopher Anderson, William Morrow & Co. 1999.

li The truth on Hillary's ability to establish coalitions...

"Gentlemen, I have looked at your proposal, and it's pure bullshlit! Now you've had your meeting! Get out!"
-Hillary's only words when she meets with health insurance executives who had a proposal of their own for health care reform, circa 1993; Unlimited Access, p. 88, by Gary Aldrich, Regnery Publishing Inc. 1996.

"I suppose I could've stayed home and baked cookies and had teas..."
-HRC's reaction to being criticized by Jerry Brown, during the '92 primaries, for her questionable ethics and business transactions in the 1980s. Hillary's Choice, by Gail Sheehy, p. 210, Random House 1999.

li The truth on Hillary's feelings about Americans living between the coasts...

"Jesus, Bill, I know you've got all these redneck relatives out there..." -Confronting her husband when it's discovered that one of his long-lost relatives is a member of the KKK, circa 1993. Bill and Hillary The Marriage p. 273, by Christopher Anderson, William Morrow & Co. 1999.

mnx12

08-05-2007 14:39:25

I don't see how any of those are lies.

bballp6699

08-05-2007 14:40:49

Did you read it?

box86rowh

08-05-2007 14:44:14

Her claiming she was named for the famous mountain climber who was 5 years away from climbing Everest is not a lie??? LOL, does it feel funny to be in denial!

box86rowh

08-05-2007 14:46:31

Here is Hilliary praising Saadam for his womens rights...I guess she thinks they miss the torture and rape...

Iraqis Told of Hillary's Praise for Saddam
Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
March 01, 2004

The Iraqi people learned on Sunday about former first lady Hillary Clinton's praise last week for Saddam Hussein, even as mainstream U.S. news outlets continued to cover up her comments.

According to the BBC, the Baghdad edition of the Saudi-owned publication Al-Sharq al-Awsat carried the headline "Hillary Clinton 'Iraqi women were better off under Saddam's reign.'"

Last Wednesday Sen. Clinton told the Brookings Institution that Iraq had recently seen "pullbacks in the rights [women] were given under Saddam Hussein."

The leading Democrat praised the Iraqi dictator for granting women a measure of equality, saying that under Saddam's rule "they went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement."

In comments reported exclusively by NewsMax.com on Friday, Sen. Clinton complained, "Now what we see happening in Iraq is the governing council attempting to shift large parts of civil law into religious jurisdiction." She called the development a "horrific mistake" for women.

Sen. Clinton said Iraqi women personally complained to her during her trip to Baghdad last November that they no longer feel safe since Saddam left.

"Women tell me they can't leave their homes, they can't go about their daily business. And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls [and] to intimidate aid workers who are women," she told Brookings.

ilanbg

08-05-2007 14:54:20

As for the first post, most/all of those quotes are either pulled out of context or irrelevant. As for the news article, Hillary is definitely more qualified than anyone on these forums to comment on the state of Iraq, having been there periodically since 2003. I'm not saying what she's saying is accurate, but no one here is entitled to discount it.

I don't support Sen. Clinton, but I don't make uneducated comments about her. (For those who think I am defending her as one of her supporters.)

doylnea

08-05-2007 15:18:42

Wow, and to think it only took one poll showing Hilary in the lead, ahead of Guiliani for this sort of tripe to come out.

tinkerjenn

08-05-2007 15:21:29

RUDY RUDY RUDY!



















Sorry, I couldn't resist ;)

Wolfeman

08-05-2007 15:26:55

OMG 5 years ago she said she had no plans to run for president and she changed her mind!@!$$!# No way, you can never change your mind in politics no matter if you are right or wrong...

JOSHBOX

08-05-2007 15:32:01

apparently peoples minds dont change in 5-10 years by your logic...

Wolfeman

08-05-2007 16:04:51

I should've added [sarcasm] tags shurg

mnx12

08-05-2007 16:05:56

[quote27bd9f750f="JOSHBOX"]apparently peoples minds dont change in 5-10 years by your logic...[/quote27bd9f750f]Yeah this is stupid. It's like saying you don't want to go to college, but then you change your mind a few years later.

Wolfeman

08-05-2007 16:10:49

In lame politics if you say something 20 years ago and now have a different view you are a "flip-flopper" and you get reamed for it...

box86rowh

08-05-2007 17:06:38

[quote8854a31a76="Wolfeman"]In lame politics if you say something 20 years ago and now have a different view you are a "flip-flopper" and you get reamed for it...[/quote8854a31a76]
It clearly states 3 years....not 20...

box86rowh

08-05-2007 17:10:06

Everyone loves to quote stupid things President Bush has said, but everyone has some stupid qoutes....here are a few gems by the honorable Sen Clinton...
The 10 Stupidest Things Hillary Clinton Has Ever Said
10. "I have to confess that it's crossed my mind that you could not be a Republican and a Christian."

9. "God bless the America we are trying to create."

8. "We have a lot of kids who don't know what works means. They think work is a four-letter word."

7. “He ran a gas station down in St. Louis... No, Mahatma Gandhi was a great leader of the 20th century.” –introducing a quote by Mahatma Gandhi

6. “Who is going to find out? These women are trash. Nobody’s going to believe them.” –on Bill Clinton’s bimbo eruptions

5. “If I didn’t kick his ass every day, he wouldn’t be worth anything.” –on Bill Clinton

4. "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life."

3. "We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

2. "I have said that I'm not running and I'm having a great time being pres — being a first-term senator." —on her presidential ambitions

1. "I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers.We are the president."

box86rowh

08-05-2007 17:11:32

Here are the last ones I will post...I promise...lol

The challenge is to practice politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible.
- Hillary Clinton

The challenges of change are always hard. It is important that we begin to unpack those challenges that confront this nation and realize that we each have a role that requires us to change and become more responsible for shaping our own future.
- Hillary Clinton

Today we voted as Democrats and Republicans. Tomorrow we begin again as New Yorkers.
- Hillary Clinton

Voting is the most precious right of every citizen, and we have a moral obligation to ensure the integrity of our voting process.
- Hillary Clinton

What we have to do... is to find a way to celebrate our diversity and debate our differences without fracturing our communities.
- Hillary Clinton

You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends.
- Hillary Clinton

In the Bible it says they asked Jesus how many times you should forgive, and he said 70 times 7. Well, I want you all to know that I'm keeping a chart.
- Hillary Clinton

In too many instances, the march to globalization has also meant the marginalization of women and girls. And that must change.
- Hillary Clinton

It is one thing not to know exactly all we should be doing to protect our homeland. It is something altogether different not to be doing the business we are expected to do to provide as many resources effectively deployed as possible to try to ensure that so far as humanly possible we have done our job.
- Hillary Clinton

Let's not leave an educational vacuum to be filled by religious extremists who go to families who have no other option and offer meals, housing and some form of education. If we are going to combat extremism then we must educate those very same children.
- Hillary Clinton

Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.
- Hillary Clinton

Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price.
- Hillary Clinton

For centuries, New York has served as the gateway for millions of people from all over the world in search of the American dream. It only makes sense that it would now serve as a gateway for the world's greatest athletes.
- Hillary Clinton

Heavens, no! It could get subpoenaed. I can't write anything.
- Hillary Clinton

I believe in a zone of privacy.
- Hillary Clinton

I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers We are the president.
- Hillary Clinton

I'm undaunted in my quest to amuse myself by constantly changing my hair.
- Hillary Clinton

If I want to knock a story off the front page, I just change my hairstyle.
- Hillary Clinton

In many parts of the world, women and girls are especially vulnerable to HIV/AIDS because they lack control over most aspects of their life. Cultural expectations and gender roles expose women and girls to violence, sexual exploitation and far greater risk for infection.
- Hillary Clinton

In the aftermath of September 11, and as the 9/11 Commission report so aptly demonstrates, it is clear that our intelligence system is not working the way that it should.
- Hillary Clinton

No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we can all agree on for the next days - we have to salute the courage and bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote.
- Hillary Clinton

One day after laying a wreath at the tomb of Martin Luther King Jr., President Bush appoints a federal judge who has built his career around dismantling Dr. King's legacy.
- Hillary Clinton

Over the last decades we have made some significant progress in fighting AIDS in our country. But we cannot rest until this progress reaches every corner of the globe and we are able to ensure that no matter where you live, the scourge of AIDS ceases to be the terrifying killer that it is today.
- Hillary Clinton

Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right.
- Hillary Clinton

Research shows the presence of women raises the standards of ethical behavior and lowers corruption.
- Hillary Clinton

The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not.
- Hillary Clinton

The American taxpayer should not be treated more shabbily than debtors from other nations and we should be encouraging other nations to help rebuild Iraq's economy.
- Hillary Clinton

The candidates we have in this campaign are... the most accomplished, in terms of public service, that we've had since 1960. One of them will be successful.
- Hillary Clinton

Wolfeman

08-05-2007 17:15:19

Those aren't even close to as bad as the retarded things Bush has said. How about "Mission Accomplished"?

box86rowh

08-05-2007 17:19:32

It was not even his idea...

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it.

Wolfeman

08-05-2007 17:25:51

Top 10 Bushisms

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000(Listen to audio clip)

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Listen to audio clip)

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb.4, 2005 (Listen to audio clip)

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video clip; listen to audio clip)

mnx12

08-05-2007 17:34:20

Those things really aren't that bad. It seems to me that you are just trying to find reasons to not like her.

ilanbg

08-05-2007 17:40:27

It seems to me that quotes are not a good way of judging a politician, no matter who it is.

There is nothing worse in American politics than partisanship.

dmorris68

08-05-2007 18:15:57

I am by no means a Hillary fan, personally I can't stand her, but as others have pointed out, taking quotes out of context, or exaggerating their significance (like changing their mind about a campaign or holding their cards close to their chest) is hardly convincing to anyone with a degree of intelligence. It just shows blind partisanship. There's plenty of tasty quotes to be had on both sides of the political aisle, so it's pointless to even go there. If you're just doing it for a laugh, it's one thing, but when you're attempting to use it to promote your opposing political position, it just makes you look... well... ignorant.

tylerc

08-05-2007 18:48:29

Rudy in '08!

zdub08

08-05-2007 18:58:41

a dubya lie list would put this to shame

mnx12

08-05-2007 18:58:55

[quoteaf85b5b6db="tylerc"]Rudy in '08![/quoteaf85b5b6db]You post that in like every political thread

zdub08

08-05-2007 19:05:59

[quote94629cd6ce="box86rowh"]Her claiming she was named for the famous mountain climber who was 5 years away from climbing Everest is not a lie??? LOL, does it feel funny to be in denial![/quote94629cd6ce]
maybe she didn't know and she was just told this from a very young age?

none of these are lies...

TryinToGetPaid

08-05-2007 19:10:34

Who cares, vote for the black man.

bballp6699

08-05-2007 19:20:35

You?

TryinToGetPaid

08-05-2007 19:22:52

Of course me, Presidential '24 baby! Ima be presidential like the stuff that I smoke. You knoooooooooooow!

Kidd

08-05-2007 19:38:45

imma go for mccain or rudy in 08!

jy3

08-05-2007 22:18:06

all i am going to say to the hillary haters is look at the current administration...no one can ever do worse than them..

jy3

08-05-2007 22:20:37

truth
http//www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

truth
Articles of Impeachment

of

President George W. Bush

and

Vice President Richard B. Cheney,
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and
Attorney General John David Ashcroft

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from
Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and
Misdemeanors. - - ARTICLE II, SECTION 4 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General John David Ashcroft have committed violations and subversions of the Constitution of the United States of America in an attempt to carry out with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes and deprivations of the civil rights of the people of the United States and other nations, by assuming powers of an imperial executive unaccountable to law and usurping powers of the Congress, the Judiciary and those reserved to the people of the United States, by the following acts

1) Threatening Iraq with a first-strike war of aggression by overwhelming and indiscriminate force including specific threats to use nuclear weapons while engaged in a massive military build-up in surrounding nations and waters.

2) Authorizing, ordering and condoning direct attacks on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties are unavoidable.

3) Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently proclaiming an intention to change its government by force while preparing to assault Iraq in a war of aggression.

4) Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, kidnappings, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners to obtain false statements concerning acts and intentions of governments and individuals and violating within the United States, and by authorizing U.S. forces and agents elsewhere, the rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

5) Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda about the conduct of foreign governments and individuals and acts by U.S. government personnel; manipulating the media and foreign governments with false information; concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment concerning acts, intentions and possession, or efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to falsely create a climate of fear and destroy opposition to U.S. wars of aggression and first strike attacks.

6) Violations and subversions of the Charter of the United Nations and international law, both a part of the "Supreme Law of the land" under Article VI, paragraph 2, of the Constitution, in an attempt to commit with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes in wars and threats of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and others and usurping powers of the United Nations and the peoples of its nations by bribery, coercion and other corrupt acts and by rejecting treaties, committing treaty violations, and frustrating compliance with treaties in order to destroy any means by which international law and institutions can prevent, affect, or adjudicate the exercise of U.S. military and economic power against the international community.

7) Acting to strip United States citizens of their constitutional and human rights, ordering, without access to counsel, without charge, and without opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the Executive of a citizen as an "enemy combatant."

8) Ordering indefinite detention of non-citizens in the United States and elsewhere, and without charge, at the discretionary designation of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense.

9) Ordering and authorizing the Attorney General to override judicial orders of release of detainees under INS jurisdiction, even where the judicial officer after full hearing determines a detainee is wrongfully held by the government.

10) Authorizing secret military tribunals and summary execution of persons who are not citizens who are designated solely at the discretion of the Executive who acts as indicting official, prosecutor and as the only avenue of appellate relief.

11) Refusing to provide public disclosure of the identities and locations of persons who have been arrested, detained and imprisoned by the U.S. government in the United States, including in response to Congressional inquiry.

12) Use of secret arrests of persons within the United States and elsewhere and denial of the right to public trials.

13) Authorizing the monitoring of confidential attorney-client privileged communications by the government, even in the absence of a court order and even where an incarcerated person has not been charged with a crime.

14) Ordering and authorizing the seizure of assets of persons in the United States, prior to hearing or trial, for lawful or innocent association with any entity that at the discretionary designation of the Executive has been deemed "terrorist."

15) Institutionalization of racial and religious profiling and authorization of domestic spying by federal law enforcement on persons based on their engagement in noncriminal religious and political activity.

16) Refusal to provide information and records necessary and appropriate for the constitutional right of legislative oversight of executive functions.

17) Rejecting treaties protective of peace and human rights and abrogation of the obligations of the United States under, and withdrawal from, international treaties and obligations without consent of the legislative branch, and including termination of the ABM treaty between the United States and Russia, and recission of the authorizing signature from the Treaty of Rome which served as the basis for the International Criminal Court.

Admin

08-05-2007 22:42:15

RE FW FWD fw RE FW LOL HILLIARY LIES passit on

CollidgeGraduit

09-05-2007 02:57:39

[quote10dd37d87a="Admin"]RE FW FWD fw RE FW LOL HILLIARY LIES passit on[/quote10dd37d87a]

IF U PASS THIS MSG ON 2 10 PPL U WILL MEET UR TRU LOVE 2 MORO.

Gigante

09-05-2007 13:43:38

[quote97d20cb1b7="CollidgeGraduit"][quote97d20cb1b7="Admin"]RE FW FWD fw RE FW LOL HILLIARY LIES passit on[/quote97d20cb1b7]

IF U PASS THIS MSG ON 2 10 PPL U WILL MEET UR TRU LOVE 2 MORO.[/quote97d20cb1b7]

are you serious or kidding? I just sent it to my whole address book. I hope you are serious. I will let you know if I meet him.

theysayjump

09-05-2007 14:31:13

[quote22d7b58cfd="Gigante"][quote22d7b58cfd="CollidgeGraduit"][quote22d7b58cfd="Admin"]RE FW FWD fw RE FW LOL HILLIARY LIES passit on[/quote22d7b58cfd]

IF U PASS THIS MSG ON 2 10 PPL U WILL MEET UR TRU LOVE 2 MORO.[/quote22d7b58cfd]

are you serious or kidding? I just sent it to my whole address book. I hope you are serious. I will let you know if I meet him.[/quote22d7b58cfd]

I'll be wearing beer goggles and have a kipper in my front jacket pocket. Come alone (omfg jus leik i usual;y do1!!).

Gigante

09-05-2007 18:04:16

[quotea450bb224f="theysayjump"][quotea450bb224f="Gigante"][quotea450bb224f="CollidgeGraduit"][quotea450bb224f="Admin"]RE FW FWD fw RE FW LOL HILLIARY LIES passit on[/quotea450bb224f]

IF U PASS THIS MSG ON 2 10 PPL U WILL MEET UR TRU LOVE 2 MORO.[/quotea450bb224f]

are you serious or kidding? I just sent it to my whole address book. I hope you are serious. I will let you know if I meet him.[/quotea450bb224f]

I'll be wearing beer goggles and have a kipper in my front jacket pocket. Come alone (omfg jus leik i usual;y do1!!).[/quotea450bb224f]

Are you for real? Because I always it always says "the existence of this user is unclear."