Napster to Go -- NEW!
EatChex89
09-02-2005 09:38:29
http//www.napster.com/ntg.html
Now for only $15month you can fill your mp3 player and whatnot with music... thats what i'm going to do when i get my iPod... i'll put a ton of songs i like then discontinue the service P
haha awesome
[edit] actually apple won't let you use this service, so those of you with iRivers can use this...
bumma..
FreeOffersNow
09-02-2005 09:39:44
Well, good luck with that. From what I hear, Napster isn't compatible with iPod. Further, you are paying for a license to play the song, not for the actual song. As soon as you discontinue the service you lose your license, and can no longer play the songs.
EatChex89
09-02-2005 09:41:37
[quotec0d6610900="FreeOffersNow"]Well, good luck with that. From what I hear, Napster isn't compatible with iPod. Further, you are paying for a license to play the song, not for the actual song. As soon as you discontinue the service you lose your license, and can no longer play the songs.[/quotec0d6610900]
but you download the songs......
eh whatever i'm not too sure about this it seems like you install the software on your computer or something, i dunno.. i'll probably try it for 30 days see what happens and then cancel it.
FreeOffersNow
09-02-2005 09:42:28
Well I haven't looked into it, its just what I've heard. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm this?
jadem
09-02-2005 09:58:47
[quoted96ef87c63="FreeOffersNow"]Well I haven't looked into it, its just what I've heard. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm this?[/quoted96ef87c63]
The DRM (digital rights management) software that is encoded into the downloaded files will disable the file if it is unable to update within a specific period of time.
Purdue signed a deal with Cdigix to allow students to have "tethered downloads" (you download the file but if the DRM isn't updated, it won't play). If you want to check out the FAQs on Purdue's end, pm me and I'll send you a link. I wrote the FAQs, so I'm proud of it. =oD
Also, with the new DRM from MS, those tethered downloads (unlimited for a monthly fee) can be placed on a device with the "plays for sure" logo.
PodTopia
09-02-2005 16:32:42
The music "dies" per say when your subscription is up, and each song costs $1 to download. So as long as you're a member of the service, you're good to go. But if you're not, the music disappears. It's better to just own your music (a la iTunes).
techdude05
09-02-2005 16:44:16
iTunes + Pepsi, all the way.
today was the first day I bought a pepsi product this year. guess what? i got a free song off iTMS!
jadem
09-02-2005 19:27:32
[quoteffa3011c27="PodTopia"]The music "dies" per say when your subscription is up, and each song costs $1 to download. So as long as you're a member of the service, you're good to go. But if you're not, the music disappears. It's better to just own your music (a la iTunes).[/quoteffa3011c27]
Once you pay your $1 for the song, you own it (i.e., you can put it on ANY mp3 device, etc.). However, you can download all you want as a tethered download and that's where you don't own it. Although, the "to go" thing refers to putting the music you download as tethered on specific devices with the "plays for sure" logo.
I'm sure you're wondering how I know this (or not, lishrugli). Purdue University signed up with a company called Cdigix to provide a legal alternative for students to get music. Recently (about the same time as Napster's release of it's new service), Cdigix announced that for a higher monthly rate, you can download all you want and put it on certain devices (those that have the "plays for sure" logo). The DRM is still active, although I don't have specifics as to whether you have to re-transfer all the music or what. However, it still stands if you pay the $1 per song, you CAN use it on your iPod (at least, that's what Napster told us when we considered signing with them).
I was on the committee that chose the music vendor, I currently work with the communications group as a tech writer (I wrote most of the information on Cdigix) at Purdue, and I received news of the new DRM technology (released by MS, some refer to it as Janus) before Cdigix officially announced it.
Narakukuku
09-02-2005 21:06:32
Napster sucks.
Although I get free downloads through my university, they will all expire.
And as for $15.00 a month, it depends on how often you use the service as well. It would mean that I would force myself to download at least 15 songs a month.
EatChex89
09-02-2005 22:47:41
actually there is a legal way around this -D
i found it today. you can download all your music and keep it past end of your subscription... anyone wanna know how?
PodTopia
10-02-2005 03:29:26
I DO!
Tholek
10-02-2005 04:07:07
Duh. )
EatChex89
10-02-2005 08:01:21
okay, so i've been recently browsing
http//club.cdfreaks.com/
and i came across a topic
http//club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=125953
and here is the legal program that will 'bypass' however, this program is like a tape recorder, as you press 'record' and then play your song and ahve it record. HOWEVER, this gives better qulaity than plugging your output into input and whatever...
so here's the website with the program (no iti sn't free, but it's only $11)
http//www.tunebite.com/
so lets hear what you think.
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BELOW IS QUOTES FROM THE ABOVE THREAD I POSTED
[quote556f8a4abc="Sean"]From what I can see, tunebite is effectively an audio recorder, like any cassette recorder, MiniDisc recorder, voice recorder with the exception of that it is a software version instead of a physical recording device. From what I can see, it is just as legal as any other audio recording device on the market
Going by its description, it captures the audio as it is being played to the soundcard, so like transferring a CD to tape, you simply press record on the software and press play on the application that plays back the restricted audio.
I am not sure how much longer would applications like this would work as I'm sure it will not be long before Microsoft starts getting the Soundcard manufacturers to block recording during the playback of copy protected content and mandate signed drivers to enforce this. [/quote556f8a4abc]
[quote556f8a4abc="Crabbyappleton"]I am happy to report that, we have at least at this point, determined that the discussion of this software Tunebites is allowed as the prograam we think is perfectly legal. Due to the fact that the program does not "break" the DRM of the music tracks. It is our understanding that DRM is intended to defeat the digital to digital replication of content. Most content providers as Seán said, will have to look upon this solution as nothing more than a very handy cassette recorder, however the quality is much improved (it would seem) in this new process.
@eltranquil Tunebites does seem to be in the clear as it is a digital to analog recording method. In many countries including Holland and the United States, we are allowed to make personal backups. So there is nothing illegal about this program we feel. Looks like Seán was absolutely correct in his logic and I was wrong!
Great find jp22382! This is a very nice program indeed and the cost is just a pittance for the convenience it provides. We do know that Microsoft and Macrovision are very busy at the moment trying to plug the so-called "analog hole". I guess we can see why now![/quote556f8a4abc]
yjz188
12-02-2005 16:44:33
TuneBite is basically a recorder, and personally, I think it's a ripoff to pay for a recorder. Go to downloads.com and search for music recorders. I use SoundCapture, which is free, and it works just fine.
adenosine
12-02-2005 17:09:05
You guys all missed the big bad thing about rerecording the music... it's not a perfect digital copy anymore!
Compressed music -> uncompressed wave -> recompressed wave = major quality loss. The second compression codec attempts to recreate the errors that were introduced during the first compression. Unless you decided to store these with a non-lossy codec (which would be way too big for an mp3 player) you are getting an inferior quality audio signal.
However, this service does interest me. One of the big things I hate about Real Rhapsody is that I can't load up tunes onto my flash based mp3 player. Being able to get like, some randomly selected good tunes from an online music service then load them up onto my mp3 player to make what is basically a few hours of the best radio station ever, would be awesome. That's what Apple is trying to do with iTunes + iPod shuffle....
DIGITALgimpus
12-02-2005 20:55:15
And just FYI,the "legality" of that is still in question. It's far from "legal" as the author claims.
1. The license you agree to when you join any music service (iTunes, Napster) explicity states you will not make any attempt to bypass.
[b4b07e83402]Infringed[/b4b07e83402]
Not to mention the above recompression quality loss.
I'd recommend iTunes. Best system of all.
Or perhaps consider mp3tunes (http//www.mp3tunes.com/) a new service.