What's wrong with my kitty?

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mnx12

19-02-2007 23:14:31

She keeps getting her shit all over her back feet and getting it all over the house....like almost daily. And I have to scrub down the whole place and bathe her.....

Wolfeman

19-02-2007 23:37:17

Gross!

EatChex89

19-02-2007 23:38:20

http//answers.yahoo.com/

^ very helpful

JennyWren

19-02-2007 23:38:40

The fact that her poop is moist enough to end up on her paws is a little odd. Have you watched her behaviour in the litterbox? I would observe her, check for anything unusual, and maybe check the consistency of her stool. Your best bet is to take her to the vet if you suspect something is wrong.

Wolfeman

19-02-2007 23:40:09

JennyWren, Cat MD...

mnx12

19-02-2007 23:43:02

Yeah actually now that I think about it, she has only been doing it since I got a different brand of cat food. Maybe I should switch it back and see what happens. We also have a dog, and if she is ever out of her food, she will start eating the dog food. I try to stop her, but i'm not always home...

h3x

19-02-2007 23:47:25

[quote872b485147="mnx12"]Yeah actually now that I think about it, she has only been doing it since I got a different brand of cat food. Maybe I should switch it back and see what happens. We also have a dog, and if she is ever out of her food, she will start eating the dog food. I try to stop her, but i'm not always home...[/quote872b485147]

Whatever you do, DO NOT LET YOUR DOG EAT CAT FOOD...

That's how my first dog died. It's too rich and causes bloating and eventually leads to intestinal problems later down the road.

Wolfeman

19-02-2007 23:47:54

Changing food can ruin an animals stomach. When we've switched our dogs food we've done it slowly by mixing it in with their existing food and slowly changing the ratios until its all the new food...

mnx12

19-02-2007 23:57:07

[quote8a5954b6fb="h3x"]Whatever you do, DO NOT LET YOUR DOG EAT CAT FOOD...

That's how my first dog died. It's too rich and causes bloating and eventually leads to intestinal problems later down the road.[/quote8a5954b6fb]How much would it take to make her really sick? When we first got the cat she kept getting into it, and we would catch her. Now she pretty much stopped, but we still have to watch her.

h3x

20-02-2007 00:01:16

[quote1ef7d62695="mnx12"][quote1ef7d62695="h3x"]Whatever you do, DO NOT LET YOUR DOG EAT CAT FOOD...

That's how my first dog died. It's too rich and causes bloating and eventually leads to intestinal problems later down the road.[/quote1ef7d62695]How much would it take to make her really sick? When we first got the cat she kept getting into it, and we would catch her. Now she pretty much stopped, but we still have to watch her.[/quote1ef7d62695]

Not sure how much it would take exactly for her to get sick... I'd say it would depend on the size of the dog... But trust me, if you love your dog, you won't let her eat it at all.

I'm not sure if it's safe for the cat to eat dog food either, you should ask a vet about that.

mnx12

20-02-2007 00:04:07

Yeah we actually have the cat food up now so the dog can't get it anymore. I have basset hound, so she's too short to get up on things. What would you suggest to do to find out what is making the cat do this? I can't afford to go to a vet for probably about a month.

justinag06

20-02-2007 00:09:51

awwwwww baset hound. That was my dog too growing up.

pics?

Wolfeman

20-02-2007 00:14:45

I take this opportunity to post a picture of my dogs ) ) )

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mnx12

20-02-2007 00:18:06

[quote623ecee4bd="justinag06"]pics?[/quote623ecee4bd]
This is my favorite pic of her
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Here's a few more
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I don't have any of the kitten yet, since I don't have a camera right now. But I will post them when I do.

JennyWren

20-02-2007 00:53:36

I don't want to be mean here, but if you cannot afford to take your pet to the vet you shouldn't have pets.

mnx12

20-02-2007 01:03:31

[quote6731f748d6="JennyWren"]I don't want to be mean here, but if you cannot afford to take your pet to the vet you shouldn't have pets.[/quote6731f748d6]I can afford, i just wont have any money for a little bit.

mnx12

20-02-2007 01:29:05

So I just barely finished cleaning up the cats mess since I posted this thread. Which included cleaning up the bathroom, washing the rug, steam cleaning the floor and sink, and giving the cat a bath. Now I am going to take a shower, even though I only took one like 5 hours ago. I did a bit of research on the internet, and the only thing I was able to find that was similar to this is that it might just be a phase. The solution is to watch her very carefully when she goes, and make sure she covers it really well. If she doesn't, then I am supposed to take her paw and show her how to do it right. I'll let you know how it goes. This is such bad timing considering I am going on vacation Thursday morning and leaving the cat home alone....

h3x

20-02-2007 01:53:12

Speaking of affording vet visits... There's Health Insurance for Dogs & Cats (and even exotic pets such as birds and reptiles). You might want to look into that as it might greatly help you when you're low on cash.

It says it's a little under $10 a month.

http//www.petinsurance.com/

VPI Superior Plan includes

Accidents and Illnesses, MRI, CAT Scans, X-Rays, Surgeries, Cancer Treatments, Prescription Medication, and Hospitalization.

mnx12

20-02-2007 02:48:22

[quotec6e86426d5="h3x"]Speaking of affording vet visits... There's Health Insurance for Dogs & Cats (and even exotic pets such as birds and reptiles). You might want to look into that as it might greatly help you when you're low on cash.

It says it's a little under $10 a month.

http//www.petinsurance.com/

VPI Superior Plan includes

Accidents and Illnesses, MRI, CAT Scans, X-Rays, Surgeries, Cancer Treatments, Prescription Medication, and Hospitalization.[/quotec6e86426d5]That might just be worth it considering I still need to get my cat fixed and vaccinated. I guess you pay for all costs and they reimburse you. Anybody else have pet insurance?

h3x

20-02-2007 03:04:36

[quoteadf404d52e="mnx12"][quoteadf404d52e="h3x"]Speaking of affording vet visits... There's Health Insurance for Dogs & Cats (and even exotic pets such as birds and reptiles). You might want to look into that as it might greatly help you when you're low on cash.

It says it's a little under $10 a month.

http//www.petinsurance.com/

VPI Superior Plan includes

Accidents and Illnesses, MRI, CAT Scans, X-Rays, Surgeries, Cancer Treatments, Prescription Medication, and Hospitalization.[/quoteadf404d52e]That might just be worth it considering I still need to get my cat fixed and vaccinated. I guess you pay for all costs and they reimburse you. Anybody else have pet insurance?[/quoteadf404d52e]

Ouch. You're going to have your cat fixed? I thought you were PETA-happy.

I would never do that to my pets.

jy3

20-02-2007 09:01:30

go see a vet, likely viral gastro
pet insurance is not worth it if u are just get a spay/neuter and shots
my wife is a vet...

justinfreestuff

20-02-2007 09:07:30

[quote0272f8b502="Wolfeman"]I take this opportunity to post a picture of my dogs ) ) )

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are those king charles spaniels?

theysayjump

20-02-2007 09:37:53

[quotee29ac76ccf="JennyWren"]I don't want to be mean here, but if you cannot afford to take your pet to the vet you shouldn't have pets.[/quotee29ac76ccf]

Not true.

We had four cats, 14, 12, 10 and 4 years old respectively. When we got all of those cats, money wasn't an issue, but come a year and a half ago it was. Still, that's no reason to get rid of them.

The 14 year old cat we had to put down just before new years eve and we paid for various different vet visits up until then.

[quotee29ac76ccf="h3x"]Ouch. You're going to have your cat fixed? I thought you were PETA-happy.

I would never do that to my pets.[/quotee29ac76ccf]

It's completely humane to have your cat(s) spayed/neutered/declawed.

One of our cats is declawed not for the sake of the house or furniture, but he likes to chase and attack another of our cats and without claws he can't do any harm.

It's inhumane to declaw all of their paws and you're supposed to leave their back claws alone so that they still have something for defense as well as grip.

@mnx, did you change her diet because that's what killed our cat (above). We only feed our cats Science Diet as they come very highly recommended. You can only buy it at pet stores and costs me about $30 for a 17lb bag that lasts three cats for 5-6 weeks.

TryinToGetPaid

20-02-2007 09:45:04

Ummm I think getting your pet spayed or neutered is the humane thing to do. Think about how many cats and dogs have no homes and are put down because no one wants them.

I had 2 cats, which are now for the time being at someone elses house, and we didn't declaw them. They learned not to scratch on the furniture, or anything of value. They "battled" all the time and even with claws, they never pulled them out to hurt the other car.

Like everyone else said, if you changed their food suddenly they will get sick from not being used to it. Wolfeman has the right idea by mixing both old and new foods together until they get used to it. And TSJ is correct, buying the top brand cat/dog food is crucial. Me and my girlfriend went to the PetsMart dog training course and they took a peice of dog food from different kinds and placed them in water, when some of them broke apart there was hair, and all kind of nastiness in it. They say that the top ingredient of any food for dogs should be corn, it may be the same for cats but do not quote me.

mnx12

20-02-2007 09:52:18

Yeah i thought i was getting a pretty good cat food, it's Purina. Maybe I should slowly switch to something else and see if that helps.

theysayjump

20-02-2007 09:55:40

Iams and Purina are notorious for having all kinds of nasty stuff in their food, such as hair, urine, feces and more.

http//www.hillspet.com/zSkin_2/products/product_selector.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302037391&bmUID=1171994232252

JennyWren

20-02-2007 10:01:54

Declawing is unnecessary mutilation, they remove the front bone of the toes not just the nail. There ARE alternatives. Declawing is illegal or considered extremely inhumane in the following countries

England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
France
Germany
Austria
Switzerland
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Ireland
Denmark
Finland
Slovenia
Portugal
Belgium
Spain
Brazil
Australia
New Zealand

I had a friend who declawed her cat and ever after he would "flick" his feet when he walked, the way cats do when they have wet paws. He was obviously very uncomfortable.

Wolfeman

20-02-2007 10:07:58

[quoteedc9a54ea6="justinfreestuff"][quoteedc9a54ea6="Wolfeman"]I take this opportunity to post a picture of my dogs ) ) )

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are those king charles spaniels?[/quoteedc9a54ea6]
Yes they are )

mnx12

20-02-2007 10:14:03

[quote150f4439b8="theysayjump"]Iams and Purina are notorious for having all kinds of nasty stuff in their food, such as hair, urine, feces and more.

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Thanks, I think i'll definitely be switching. I'm still using kitty formula right now, what do you think is the best?

tylerc

20-02-2007 16:03:19

We got my cat declawed, she's fine.

mushybubbler

20-02-2007 16:27:00

Got one of our cats declawed too and he's happy as can be. He's an indoor cat though, if he was outdoor we probably wouldnt have seeing as how hed need protection P

h3x

20-02-2007 16:41:08

All I know is I wouldn't be too happy if someone cut off my balls and pulled off my fingernails and toenails... That's why I refuse to do such a thing...

It's inhumane in my eyes.

benner410

20-02-2007 16:47:14

Maybe you should quit feeding your cat bean burritos.... Maybe then she wouldn't shlit allover the walls.

Wolfeman

20-02-2007 16:50:27

[quotee8b7ff7ca8="h3x"]All I know is I wouldn't be too happy if someone cut off my balls and pulled off my fingernails and toenails... That's why I refuse to do such a thing...

It's inhumane in my eyes.[/quotee8b7ff7ca8]
That sounds like a fun Friday night dance

dmorris68

20-02-2007 17:41:07

[quoteb3b70ea7f6="theysayjump"]Iams and Purina are notorious for having all kinds of nasty stuff in their food, such as hair, urine, feces and more.

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Not according to my vet. My vet (including multiple doctors within the same office) highly recommend ordinary Purina over premium foods unless your pet has a reason to be on a special diet. And they sell the premium stuff too, including Iams and Eukanuba. Years ago we assumed that "more expensive == better" when it came to pet food, and the vet set us straight. She told us that Purina puts more money into pet diet R&D than any other petfood company and that their food was scientifically more reliable and consistent for the vast majority of pets. So we switched to regular Purina Dog Chow and have been with it for years now -- our Golden Retrievers love it.

Here's some pics I tossed up on a quick & dirty site a few years ago. It's way out of date now, and the pics are kinda small (it was a Photoshop web library dump), but it's all I have of them online at the moment

http//www.morrisonline.us/dogs

dmorris68

20-02-2007 17:43:49

[quote325c0a924b="h3x"]All I know is I wouldn't be too happy if someone cut off my balls and pulled off my fingernails and toenails... That's why I refuse to do such a thing...

It's inhumane in my eyes.[/quote325c0a924b]
Pet's getting fixed is no different than humans getting fixed. It isn't inhumane -- they are sedated under a general anesthesia for the operation, just like humans are. Like humans, they have a little soreness for a few days afterwards, then they're fine. It's far more humane than letting them breed accidentally and not being able to care for the offspring. I'm surprised to hear an animal lover say it's inhumane -- I think you're the first.

CollidgeGraduit

20-02-2007 18:00:47

[quote169a364955="h3x"]All I know is I wouldn't be too happy if someone cut off my balls and pulled off my fingernails and toenails... That's why I refuse to do such a thing...

It's inhumane in my eyes.[/quote169a364955]

Heck, I'd be pissed if I had to sleep on a mat on the floor, drink stale water, stand in knee-deep snow to poop, and do humiliating tricks just to get a treat. But, since I'm a human and not a dog, I don't see that the logic necessarily applies ;)

I agree with dmorris, it's definitely more humane than having even MORE animals that can't be taken care of and enjoyed. It seems more responsible to have your pets fixed, unless you plan on breeding them, rather than have more cats and dogs in neglectful homes, or in the cages at the Humane Society.

And about the declawing... if cats didn't swipe at you when they played, or turn furniture into their scratching posts, I wouldn't see a need for it.

FreeOffersNow

20-02-2007 18:02:18

Our cat is 7 years old, and she's been declawed (front only) for nearly a year now. She still claws at furniture, only now with no claws she doesn't cause any damage. She is still very playful and "kneads" on me and my girlfriend all the time. She [i816bf287d8]is[/i816bf287d8] an indoor cat and is pretty easily spooked...but she's very loving and doesn't seem to have been bothered by the fact that she no longer has front claws (though, we don't talk about it in front of her ;)).

theysayjump

20-02-2007 18:17:49

Only one of my cats is declawed and was declawed before we got him so we had no choice in the matter, but I don't agree with declawing a cat just so it doesn't scratch up the furniture or carpets. Now if you have kids and/or other animals that may suffer at the paws of a non-declawed cat then I'm all for it.

theysayjump

20-02-2007 18:19:33

[quote53e5e30535="dmorris68"][quote53e5e30535="theysayjump"]Iams and Purina are notorious for having all kinds of nasty stuff in their food, such as hair, urine, feces and more.

http//www.hillspet.com/zSkin_2/products/product_selector.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302037391&bmUID=1171994232252[/quote53e5e30535]
Not according to my vet. My vet (including multiple doctors within the same office) highly recommend ordinary Purina over premium foods unless your pet has a reason to be on a special diet. And they sell the premium stuff too, including Iams and Eukanuba. Years ago we assumed that "more expensive == better" when it came to pet food, and the vet set us straight. She told us that Purina puts more money into pet diet R&D than any other petfood company and that their food was scientifically more reliable and consistent for the vast majority of pets. So we switched to regular Purina Dog Chow and have been with it for years now -- our Golden Retrievers love it.

Here's some pics I tossed up on a quick & dirty site a few years ago. It's way out of date now, and the pics are kinda small (it was a Photoshop web library dump), but it's all I have of them online at the moment

http//www.morrisonline.us/dogs[/quote53e5e30535]

I would assume it's just a matter of Vets' personal opinions as we were told pretty much the same as you but replace Purina with Science Diet. shrug

bballp6699

20-02-2007 18:20:27

My cat just knocked a cup of water over on my textbook.

Anyone want a cat?

cwncool

20-02-2007 18:49:59

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Now that's cute.

CollidgeGraduit

20-02-2007 18:55:03

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Here's mine..

FreeOffersNow

20-02-2007 19:06:37

[quotedd957f1562="theysayjump"]Only one of my cats is declawed and was declawed before we got him so we had no choice in the matter, but I don't agree with declawing a cat just so it doesn't scratch up the furniture or carpets. Now if you have kids and/or other animals that may suffer at the paws of a non-declawed cat then I'm all for it.[/quotedd957f1562]

When she first got declawed, she was still living "at home" with my girlfriend and her mother. She not only scratched the hell out of the furniture, but she also scratched the shit out of the hardwood banister at the bottom of the stairs. There were other pets in the house (1 pit, 1 pit/husky, some birds, 2 fish tanks) but she didn't really bother them other than slapping the dogs in the face...which she continued to do after she was declawed. She still scratches me from time to time trying to "latch on" when I pick her up (

Declawing is analogous to abortion...some are for, some are against. I think we can leave it at that.

bballp6699

20-02-2007 20:01:40

[quote9409369a07="cwncool"]http//www.gigacat.com/dog.jpg[" alt=""/img9409369a07]

Now that's cute.[/quote9409369a07]

That is a cool dog. Is that a beagle or some other sort of mix with a beagle.

Dave82

20-02-2007 21:15:03

I read somewhere that declawing cats after they are older really affects them psychologically.

I mean, if I ripped off your nails permanently I dont think you would be happy or feel safe.


ANYWAY, I DO THINK DECLAWING IS CRUEL.



There is an alternative
http//www.softpaws.com[]http//www.softpaws.com[/size4add122710]

hehehhehe

20-02-2007 21:31:37

[quote98ab9fc180="dmorris68"]http//www.morrisonline.us/dogs[/quote98ab9fc180]
This one killed me.
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I'm jealous of all you bastards with dogs (.

Gooogler

20-02-2007 21:36:46

[quoted1d41d4a1c="h3x"]
Ouch. You're going to have your cat fixed? I thought you were PETA-happy.

I would never do that to my pets.[/quoted1d41d4a1c]

PETA Endorses it, it cuts down on strays. It much better for all cats down the road.

soon2bbriz

20-02-2007 22:13:18

jy3

21-02-2007 04:33:29

[quote4f13d493df="h3x"][quote4f13d493df="mnx12"]Yeah actually now that I think about it, she has only been doing it since I got a different brand of cat food. Maybe I should switch it back and see what happens. We also have a dog, and if she is ever out of her food, she will start eating the dog food. I try to stop her, but i'm not always home...[/quote4f13d493df]

Whatever you do, DO NOT LET YOUR DOG EAT CAT FOOD...

That's how my first dog died. It's too rich and causes bloating and eventually leads to intestinal problems later down the road.[/quote4f13d493df]

not to knock ur experience but this is wrong in that it will not kill them. it may give them diarrhea but not so much they will die

jy3

21-02-2007 04:35:09

[quoted6881835ff="JennyWren"]Declawing is unnecessary mutilation, they remove the front bone of the toes not just the nail. There ARE alternatives. Declawing is illegal or considered extremely inhumane in the following countries

England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
France
Germany
Austria
Switzerland
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Ireland
Denmark
Finland
Slovenia
Portugal
Belgium
Spain
Brazil
Australia
New Zealand

I had a friend who declawed her cat and ever after he would "flick" his feet when he walked, the way cats do when they have wet paws. He was obviously very uncomfortable.[/quoted6881835ff]

i actually agree with some of what u have said but note that the knew laser technique is painless and recovery is related to anesthesia and NOT the procedure

jy3

21-02-2007 04:36:30

also, i will say this again. take the cat to a vet. there are many benign, easy to treat things it could have and there are serious things as well. pay the damn vet bills and dont get advice from people who base their advice on experience and not on scientific knowledge

h3x

21-02-2007 04:50:42

[quotee224912e39="jy3"][quotee224912e39="h3x"][quotee224912e39="mnx12"]Yeah actually now that I think about it, she has only been doing it since I got a different brand of cat food. Maybe I should switch it back and see what happens. We also have a dog, and if she is ever out of her food, she will start eating the dog food. I try to stop her, but i'm not always home...[/quotee224912e39]

Whatever you do, DO NOT LET YOUR DOG EAT CAT FOOD...

That's how my first dog died. It's too rich and causes bloating and eventually leads to intestinal problems later down the road.[/quotee224912e39]

not to knock ur experience but this is wrong in that it will not kill them. it may give them diarrhea but not so much they will die[/quotee224912e39]

It's a gradual process, it doesn't happen overnight... It killed my dog, the vet was the one that told me that... It might give them diarrhea and bloating at first, but if they keep eating the shit throughout their lifetime, it can and WILL damage the intestinal tract and eventually lead to death as a result.

As for the spaying and neutering, I managed to control my dog from escaping from the house by not installing a "doggie door". That way if he needed to go, I could let him out and monitor him until he's done doing his business.

He only escaped once (but that was because someone left the front door open).

Sure, it's more work but I'd rather take that responsibility than to do such a thing to my pets.

I know it sounds strange to most of you... I don't know what to tell you, it's what I believe shrug

TryinToGetPaid

21-02-2007 06:19:32

Yeah, but what if that one time your dog ran out and mated, and then either someone else has to deal with puppies they do not want, or you have to deal with puppies you do not want and they end up getting put down?

It is like gangrene, you cut off a finger to save an arm.

justinfreestuff

21-02-2007 06:27:46

[quote39dd32bde7="Wolfeman"][quote39dd32bde7="justinfreestuff"][quote39dd32bde7="Wolfeman"]I take this opportunity to post a picture of my dogs ) ) )

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are those king charles spaniels?[/quote39dd32bde7]
Yes they are )[/quote39dd32bde7]

those dogs are so cool
my brother has 3 of them
they are so smart, and nicer than nice

TryinToGetPaid

21-02-2007 06:32:09

Bichon Frise FTW!

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jadem

21-02-2007 07:55:47

Ok, the food change can definitely be the issue. How old is the cat? Has the cat been outside recently? Been around other cats that she wasn't around before? If, for some reason, it's not diet, it could be parasites. Roundworms are really hard to get rid of and can cause all kinds of nasty side effects.

I don't want to start on feline nutrition, but I've been through so many articles and such, and I came to my own conclusion that vets don't always know what's best. Nutrition isn't based on name brand or price. It's based on particular ingredients included in the food. Grains are NOT good for a cat, no matter what they try to tell you in those damn commercials. Grains are actually a big cause of urinary tract infections, which can be fatal to male cats (crystals form and block the urinary canal, and that blockage can cause kidney failure within 24 hours of the blockage).

Also, don't believe that crap about wet food harming their teeth and dry food cleaning their teeth. If you've ever seen a cat eat dry food, you'll notice that they bite the kibble in half, then swallow. They do not chew. If they don't chew, nothing can "clean" their teeth. In fact, wet food is better for their overall health than dry. Why? Feline diabetes is on the rise, significantly. Dry food has an enormous amount of carbohydrates which cause weight gain and throws off their sugar. Don't believe me? Look it up.

Actually, just go here http//www.felinediabetes.com/diet.htm

Yes, I feed dry food, but I also feed wet. I can't feed my cats all wet food because they won't eat just wet. But I feed a high-quality dry food. It's pricey, yes, but the quality of the food is one of the best that I can get around here. Call me a cat-food snob, lol.

I belong to a cat forum (was a moderator at one, but no longer) and in my three years I have learned more on my own and from others having the same experiences, than I would have ever learned from a vet.

If you want to know more, feel free to pm me.

And before anyone goes into a tirade about how they've raised cats on iams dry food for years and they are fine, that's great! But not everyone can be so lucky.

Also, declawing is unnecessary and I feel, inhumane. If you want a declawed cat, there are so many needing homes in shelters. If you MUST declaw, please don't declaw an adult cat. It's hard for a 10+lb cat to recover than a 2-5lb cat. Also, research the behavior problems that are typically associated with declawing (peeing and pooping outside the litterbox, agression, fear, etc.). http//littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=002

Neutering is essential because of the overpopulation of cats in this country. I'd rather "chop off my cats balls" than see 20+ kittens that he fathered be euthanized because the shelters are full.

I think I'll step off the soapbox for now.

Tsmith10803

21-02-2007 09:04:19

Nobody believed me when I said my cat was sick, I know my animals, and I know when one is sick. So My mom says, "If you think she's still sick in a week, we'll take her to the vet"

My cat died 6 days later...I was so upset

TryinToGetPaid

21-02-2007 09:15:56

So did you get a new mom?

Godrockdj

21-02-2007 10:58:15

Our kitten is about 11 months old at this point. We had him declawed (front paws) and neutered at 6 months. He went under anesthesia and was out the next day. After wearing a cone for a week he ran around the house and pawed everything up like usual. Months later he still does - I don't think he even knows his claws are missing.

We feed him Science Diet (kitten) and have been very happy with it. He is healthy, not overweight, and his coat is nice and shiny.

theysayjump

21-02-2007 12:27:58

Cats claw by nature, regardless of whether they have claws or not, but as Jadem said, declawing an adult cat is wrong.

If anyone has a Siamese cat they want to get rid off, let me know and I'll pay you extra to ship it FedEx Overnight.

Dave82

21-02-2007 12:43:43

[quotec154ab0de0="jadem"]Also, declawing is unnecessary and I feel, inhumane. [bc154ab0de0]If you want a declawed cat, there are so many needing homes in shelters.[/bc154ab0de0] If you MUST declaw, please don't declaw an adult cat. It's hard for a 10+lb cat to recover than a 2-5lb cat. Also, research the behavior problems that are typically associated with declawing (peeing and pooping outside the litterbox, agression, fear, etc.). http//littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=002

Neutering is essential because of the overpopulation of cats in this country. [bc154ab0de0]I'd rather "chop off my cats balls" than see 20+ kittens that he fathered be euthanized because the shelters are full.[/bc154ab0de0]
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Very good points!! +karma


Also, i dont care what others wrote above, cats are affected by this.

My parents had a cat. When they went out of the country for 8 months they left the cat with a family friend. The "friend" ended up switching apartments and got her declawed without even asking my parents cry

I only hope his fingers are ripped off in hell.

I still blame myself for not being able to take kitty cry

mnx12

21-02-2007 12:44:52

[quotefad19bd785="soon2bbriz"]i worked in a vet's office for 5 years and i am a lvt. i suggest putting about 1/4 tsp of metamucil or all-bran cereal mixed with her food once a day for 3 days or so then 2-3 times a week. fiber regulates the gut whether it is too fast or too slow. alot of people think that when you have diarreah or soft sttols that the gut is moving too fast when actually it may not be moving fast enough. i have seen good results from adding fiber to the diet to help with the consistancy of the stool. (just don't use the orange flavor metamucil, cat's don't seem to like the citrus flavoring too much.) hope this helps[/quotefad19bd785]Hey thanks, I will try that. Would wheat bran cereal work? Also, on the subject of fixing your animals, have you never watched Price is Right? Listen to Bob, he's smart. But I definitely am against declawing.

Dave82

21-02-2007 12:46:01

[quoted9b153d4b6="Godrockdj"]Our kitten is about 11 months old at this point. We had him declawed (front paws) and neutered at 6 months. He went under anesthesia and was out the next day. After wearing a cone for a week he ran around the house and pawed everything up like usual. Months later he still does - I don't think he even knows his claws are missing.[/quoted9b153d4b6]

Yes, it isnt as bad for younger cats.

If you lost your hands at 6 months old it is not the same as losing them at age 20.

Dave82

21-02-2007 12:49:33

[quote0e77d2583a="Tsmith10803"]Nobody believed me when I said my cat was sick, I know my animals, and I know when one is sick. So My mom says, "If you think she's still sick in a week, we'll take her to the vet"

My cat died 6 days later...I was so upset[/quote0e77d2583a]

That is so sad (

Yeah, always go with your gut instinc. You just know when something is not right.

But you cannot blame your mother. She probably was not as close to your cat as you were, so she didnt pick up that feeling. She was being practical. You dont rush your kids to the doctor everytime they say they dont feel well. But if you just have that[i0e77d2583a] feeling[/i0e77d2583a], then you should.

Dont blame her and dont blame yourself.

soon2bbriz

21-02-2007 13:08:47

wheat bran ceral would be fine. anything that adds fiber to her diet may help!! definately won't hurt.

cwncool

21-02-2007 13:24:43

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Now that's cute.[/quote60a58dce8b]

That is a cool dog. Is that a beagle or some other sort of mix with a beagle.[/quote60a58dce8b]
yep. Beagle - Dachshund mix.

Tsmith10803

21-02-2007 18:36:57

[quote6f83d49222="Dave82"]
Dont blame her and dont blame yourself.[/quote6f83d49222]

I don't blame her, it just got me real upset that they wouldn't believe me, like, you know a big secret but nobody believes you until it's too late.

manOFice

21-02-2007 18:57:17

picture of my puppy...wife likes to dress her up

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and my one cat being silly

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cat has balls choped off....and doggy has tubes tied...got the dog from aspca
they said if I didn't get her tubes tied they would come take her from us and do it themselfs...its going to be a law soon in NY

Tsmith10803

21-02-2007 21:47:17

[quote="O4F-Manofice"do it themselfs...its going to be a law soon in NY

Yea, I used to volunteer at an animal shelter in this place called mount vernon in westchester New York, which is right outside the city, and we handled all the dogs from the Bronx that come to westchester, and they were pit bulls and crazy and what not. One got his paw stuck in the cage and tore out his nail, I had to hold him down while we fixed it and muzzled it and the lady was like "Ugh, we need to get these dogs spade, there are just too many"


But the thing is, how do we regulate how many of them to spade and nuder?

FreeOffersNow

21-02-2007 22:02:58

jadem - Serenity chewed on 'da bird...the string is now about 12" long, and she still begs to play with it CONSTANTLY. I had to put it up (out of view) so she'd stop bugging me about it!

jadem

22-02-2007 06:28:18

[quote8451ef3ad5="FreeOffersNow"]jadem - Serenity chewed on 'da bird...the string is now about 12" long, and she still begs to play with it CONSTANTLY. I had to put it up (out of view) so she'd stop bugging me about it![/quote8451ef3ad5]

Yep! Ours is in a closet that they can't open right now. D And since we've recently discovered that Oscar has toy-aggression (seriously, we take toys from him in the middle of the night cuz he's growling and hissing at Scotty waking us up), they have to have separate play times with Da Bird. I don't see the need to buy a second one, but if we try to let both play at the same time, it's not pretty. /

And GodRock...I wasn't saying that people are terrible if they declaw, just that it's better to do so with a kitten, than an adult, but that I am against it myself. I think for you, you did the best thing. I'm glad to know that it was done when your cat was getting neutered. ) But, I am against it myself.

When I was calling vet offices in the area (there are sooo many because Purdue has a good Vet school) and asking about neutering prices, I scratched off any that asked, "Would you like your cat declawed at the same time?" To my sensitive heart that was almost as if they were saying, "would you like fries with that?"

And just so everyone knows...we paid $1200 for a brand new couch, both cats have claws, but they don't claw on it (if they do, it's because they're stretching, but not actively clawing). We trim their claws once every two weeks, just to save our own skin, and have had no real problems. D

Also, they don't claw on anything but their posts, except when Scotty decides that we're not paying enough attention to him at 2 am and that scratching my antique hope chest would make a great alarm. ( He's a shit. lol

Anyway, mnx12, there have been lots of great suggestions. I hope your kitty feels better soon!!

jadem

22-02-2007 06:31:55

Oh, and one more thing. for those that are against neutering, read up on what male cats do when intact, and what can happen to female cats left intact.

Males spray to mark their territory. That's why reputable cat breeders have outdoor enclosures for their males.

Females can easily develop a nasty infection in their uterus that can lead to death if not treated, and expensive surgery if caught in time. This is the same for dogs.

My SIL and her fiance have a beautiful female husky that had to have emergency surgery last year because she was intact, and her uterus got infected.

JennyWren

22-02-2007 18:38:23

My cat likes IAMS best but that's too darn bad for her

http//www.iamscruelty.com/videos.asp[]http//www.iamscruelty.com/videos.asp

I now give her a variety of different pet store brands, NutroMax, California Natural, Science Diet, etc. No grocery store brands (those are just kitty junk food).

Killer722

22-02-2007 21:59:24

I WILL NOT EAT CAT POOP.

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