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good2speed

26-01-2007 09:40:29

[quotef3a8bdd4d6="freaky1718"]lol go hairless ? and i dont think shampoos will do it[/quotef3a8bdd4d6]

If I go hairless then I'll go jobless. And I found out that if you remove your head on your hair they'll go for your body hair or pubes.

I'm aware this test is more decisive then the urine tests but from what ive read it can be beaten.

I used the wizzinator(greatest device ever made by mankind) to pass urine test so Im assuming a hair test can be foiled as well.

Im buying this shampoo

http//www.passusa.com/hair-drug-testing-02.html

Not completely convinced it works but Im on short notice and this job is kick ass.

freaky1718

26-01-2007 09:44:25

um the thing about it is that when you eat something it shows in ur hair so um its basically a part of the hair not an oil that can be washed away, and second urine is really different around 2 gallons or so of cranberry juice(not cocktail) can take it away flush out your kidneys

J4320

26-01-2007 11:37:31

Do you think you could borrow someone else's hair or something? When they ask for your hair keep the other person's hair ready in your pocket. Bring your hand out of your pocket and act like you're pulling off hair and hand them the hair from your pocket.

Or do they cut some of your hair off?

csullivan1@rochester.rr.c

26-01-2007 11:43:06

[quotea8ba4499c9="J4320"]Do you think you could borrow someone else's hair or something? When they ask for your hair keep the other person's hair ready in your pocket. Bring your hand out of your pocket and act like you're pulling off hair and hand them the hair from your pocket.

Or do they cut some of your hair off?[/quotea8ba4499c9]

No they don't cut your hair out! It's a hair follicle test (they pull it out by the root). Anyways, my brother used the shampoo awhile back and it worked for him. The only problem nowadays is that a lot of places are testing for the things people use to "cover up" their drug use. So as long as they don't test you for the shampoo...it should work.

TryinToGetPaid

26-01-2007 11:44:21

Hmm, they always cut my hair.

csullivan1@rochester.rr.c

26-01-2007 11:51:04

[quote7a3d37cdeb="TryinToGetPaid"]Hmm, they always cut my hair.[/quote7a3d37cdeb]

Well I guess for guys with short hair it might be different...but I have long hair and if they cut my hair, they are getting about a years worth of anything I've done. If they use the follicle as they are supposed to, they are in a much better position to determine what drugs I've done recently. If I ate a poppy seed bagel for breakfast and a sandwich on a poppy seed roll for lunch and then a poppy seed muffin in the evening one day a year ago, and they test my hair by cutting it, they'll think I did drugs....hehe and I would never do drugs... lol

ILoveToys

26-01-2007 12:56:56

Some smoking shit...That's a good tip.

dmorris68

26-01-2007 13:16:44

Not to renew the whole debate again, but I'm gonna put on my grandpa hat and say if you've got a "kick ass" job and don't want to lose it, then don't do drugs. Bingo, problem solved. ;)

TryinToGetPaid

26-01-2007 13:23:56

Agreed.

good2speed

26-01-2007 13:37:02

[quote507a81fd4f="csullivan1@rochester.rr.c"]
No they don't cut your hair out! It's a hair follicle test (they pull it out by the root). Anyways, my brother used the shampoo awhile back and it worked for him. The only problem nowadays is that a lot of places are testing for the things people use to "cover up" their drug use. So as long as they don't test you for the shampoo...it should work.[/quote507a81fd4f]

great answer. I've done my own research an d came to the same conclusion as you that a lot of labs have started to wash the hair before testing. Therefore any shampoos that you may use to mask the toxins will not give you a desired result. Upon further research I came across a product that actually removes the toxins, rather then masking them, and they give a 90-95% success rate. I guess I have nothing to lose at this point and since I have to take the test this seems like my only option ATM.

[quote507a81fd4f="dmorris68"]Not to renew the whole debate again, but I'm gonna put on my grandpa hat and say if you've got a "kick ass" job and don't want to lose it, then don't do drugs. Bingo, problem solved. ;)[/quote507a81fd4f]

Ya Ya. But you must understand my programming skills are L33t when I puff puff. All jokes aside I hear what your saying and it makes sense but I get too much enjoyment from smoking. Hopefully this toxin remover works and I wont have to worry about the test. Its all a game anyways much like programmers and hackers. Each side is always trying to better the other. Hopefully the drug concealers have found a way to stay ahead of the hair testers.

tracemhunter

26-01-2007 14:18:33

why not just shave everything, including your pubes?

TryinToGetPaid

26-01-2007 14:37:55

Wouldn't that be obvious?

unlabeledbooze

26-01-2007 14:43:57

Just use both shampoos and see what happens.

good2speed

26-01-2007 14:48:23

[quote9c1bcc30cf="tracemhunter"]why not just shave everything, including your pubes?[/quote9c1bcc30cf]

then I either dont get the job or they have me submit a blood sample. either way they want a test done before I start.

bballp6699

26-01-2007 14:56:37

Didn't you just get a new job?

good2speed

26-01-2007 15:03:57

[quote07e8c1523f="bballp6699"]Didn't you just get a new job?[/quote07e8c1523f]

?? time flies by quick. i think the last post for work, that you're referring to, I made was about over a year ago. Probably thinking about a post I made a year and a half ago to be precise.

Anyways I'm a contract worker and my contracts usually run from 4-8 months so I'm constantly in the process of finding a new gig. Sometimes they test sometimes they don't. Always keeping me on my toes to stay updated on marijuana avoidance techniques.

TryinToGetPaid

26-01-2007 15:10:07

On side news Here in Louisiana a 7 year old was caught with cocaine.

JOSHBOX

26-01-2007 16:43:12

Call me crazy but I find not doing drugs is the best way to pass drug tests...

its worked for me in the past.

manOFice

26-01-2007 16:46:24

I'll also second the don't do drugs....I mean it's just not worth it...if you are serious about a career don't do drugs...i used to do drugs every day but havn't in about 7 years....decided to get a good job.

I hope you can pass this test and not do drugs from now on.

amir89630

26-01-2007 18:18:55

if you hold your hair in a recently shocked pool for about 1/2 an hour, it will help your chances of passing the test.

d11m

26-01-2007 18:22:58

[quote871e4c910b="amir89630"]if you hold your hair in a recently shocked pool for about 1/2 an hour, it will help your chances of passing the test.[/quote871e4c910b]

LOL!! picturing that is so funny
what kind of drugs are you doing?

good2speed

26-01-2007 18:36:35

[quote14f9f6a5a7="O4F-Manofice"]I'll also second the don't do drugs....I mean it's just not worth it...if you are serious about a career don't do drugs...i used to do drugs every day but havn't in about 7 years....decided to get a good job.

I hope you can pass this test and not do drugs from now on.[/quote14f9f6a5a7]

There may be a chance I could pass the test. As far as giving up smoking I give no such guarantee but I do hope one day you find the enthusiasm to go light one up.

d11m

26-01-2007 18:50:13

what are you smoking? (if you dont mind me asking)

tylerc

26-01-2007 20:39:33

Pot I would assume, since he said when he is baked he is a better programmer.

h3x

26-01-2007 22:45:23

This is the only known way to pass a hair follicle test... I have never tested this and I'm glad I've never had to be in such a position, but try this out... Apparently it works (according to others that have posted their results).

This is not my technique... I have no clue if this works or not, you'll have to see for yourself. But don't come crying to me if it doesn't.

Also... Do this at YOUR OWN RISK.

[quote9c91736c8e]1. Apply vinegar... Make sure you leave it in and let it saturate into the hair for about 10 minutes. Also, apply "Clean & Clear Skin Toning & Deep Cleanser" in your hair while the vinegar has been saturated in your hair. Massage into the scalp for about 5minutes. It cleanses your follicles while the vinegar opens your pores.

2. Wash your hair with laundry detergent (liquid or powder) and rinse thoroughly with warm water. Tide has the best cleaning agent of all detergents. Do not let any of it get in your eyes or it will sting like hell.

4. Finally apply an aloe (moisturizing shampoo) and rinse your hair throughly.

5. Repeat this process every day up until the test.[/quote9c91736c8e]

Hope this helps you out... If you do try this let me know the results and good luck.

ilanbg

26-01-2007 22:50:15

The bit about getting detergent in your eyes... you could also go blind or sustain serious eye injuries. So be careful.

h3x

26-01-2007 22:53:19

Yeah, it's sounds like too much. I don't think I would ever do that... If I had to do a hair follicle test, I would do everything mentioned there but skip the whole detergent step, that sounds too risky for me... I value my thick head of hair a lot more than some job.

Allen626

26-01-2007 22:56:50

...

h3x

26-01-2007 23:04:10

Since we're discussing drug testing... G-d forbid, if anyone here ever has to take a urine test, please check out my urine test technique

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=388623#388623[]http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=388623#388623

good2speed

27-01-2007 13:14:18

[quotea3ccde16d4="h3x"]This is the only known way to pass a hair follicle test... I have never tested this and I'm glad I've never had to be in such a position, but try this out... Apparently it works (according to others that have posted their results).

This is not my technique... I have no clue if this works or not, you'll have to see for yourself. But don't come crying to me if it doesn't.

Also... Do this at YOUR OWN RISK.

[quotea3ccde16d4]1. Apply vinegar... Make sure you leave it in and let it saturate into the hair for about 10 minutes. Also, apply "Clean & Clear Skin Toning & Deep Cleanser" in your hair while the vinegar has been saturated in your hair. Massage into the scalp for about 5minutes. It cleanses your follicles while the vinegar opens your pores.

2. Wash your hair with laundry detergent (liquid or powder) and rinse thoroughly with warm water. Tide has the best cleaning agent of all detergents. Do not let any of it get in your eyes or it will sting like hell.

4. Finally apply an aloe (moisturizing shampoo) and rinse your hair throughly.

5. Repeat this process every day up until the test.[/quotea3ccde16d4]

Hope this helps you out... If you do try this let me know the results and good luck.[/quotea3ccde16d4]

Damn I was waiting for you to respond. Glad the potheads got my back. You should read what some of the squares have been writing in this thread.

Well I think your method works as well. I did buy a toxin remover wash fromt he internet.

Basicaly these are the prewash directions.

1. wash hair with warm water
2. apply liquiud dishwashing soap. Rinse in for a few mintues and wash away. Im thinking of using goggles of some kind to avoid eye irratation.
3. Put hair in distilled vineagar for 3 minutes and let it soak.
4. Wash hair with distilled watr.
5. Use the toxin wash hours before your test and it will remove unwanted contaminants.

Thx for your help.

mnx12

27-01-2007 13:38:59

You're an idiot, I hope you fail.

good2speed

27-01-2007 13:59:27

[quote8ed330359c="mnx12"]You're an idiot, I hope you fail.[/quote8ed330359c]

wow what did I do to you. Sorry you have so much hate in your system Hopefully by the time you become an adult you will lose some of that hate. Good luck with that and I hope you do lose some of that hate

J4320

27-01-2007 14:13:10

[quotee7c06b3e29="mnx12"]You're an idiot, I hope you fail.[/quotee7c06b3e29]

Wow dude... lighten up a little. Just because he did some drugs doesn't mean he isn't the man for the job. He could be far more qualified than the next person who is drug free.

mnx12

27-01-2007 15:04:46

If that company doesn't want drug addicts, then he shouldn't get that job. There is a reason why they do the testing...

EDIT and I don't need to "lighten up", i am not on some angry rampage

good2speed

27-01-2007 15:07:07

[quote6606ed56ad="mnx12"]If that company doesn't want drug addicts, then he shouldn't get that job. There is a reason why they do the testing...[/quote6606ed56ad]

Just to clear some things up... Is everyone that smoke weed a drug addict?

Powerbook

27-01-2007 15:12:12

well good luck, try to quit though. (

J4320

27-01-2007 15:13:02

[quoted1aa08e9bb="mnx12"]If that company doesn't want drug addicts, then he shouldn't get that job. There is a reason why they do the testing...

EDIT and I don't need to "lighten up", i am not on some angry rampage[/quoted1aa08e9bb]

You don't know that he's an addict.

edit - yeah what he said P

tylerc

27-01-2007 15:33:28

[quote36cbbdd1c1="mnx12"]You're an idiot, I hope you fail.[/quote36cbbdd1c1]

I don't call you an idiot for supporting PETA and being a vegetarian.

Ok, well, maybe I do, but let him do whatever he wants, his life, not yours.

I hope you get some disease from not having enough protein.

Sound good?

good2speed

27-01-2007 15:52:00

[quote4ab0472bb5="tylerc"][quote4ab0472bb5="mnx12"]You're an idiot, I hope you fail.[/quote4ab0472bb5]

I don't call you an idiot for supporting PETA and being a vegetarian.

Ok, well, maybe I do, but let him do whatever he wants, his life, not yours.

I hope you get some disease from not having enough protein.

Sound good?[/quote4ab0472bb5]

I appreciate your support but lets try to be civil here Let's try not to wish for bad/evil things to happen to any FIPG member or anyone on this earth for that matter.

J4320

27-01-2007 16:22:38

Yeah tylerc I hope you die.

Powerbook

27-01-2007 16:38:32

Jeez guys it is just the Internet. Relax. No one should be wishing anyone to die, that is completely inappropriate. (

J4320

27-01-2007 16:45:24

[quotefa5c5dccba="Powerbook"]Jeez guys it is just the Internet. Relax. No one should be wishing anyone to die, that is completely inappropriate. ([/quotefa5c5dccba]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/ddc9f7a14eeccd72fa0b073bc30dafb6.gif[" alt=""/imgfa5c5dccba]

phriq

27-01-2007 16:46:52

i agree. lets all be happy,,,,,you see if we all smoked weed.. then we would all love each other ,,,yet fail...but thats why we get our stuff from trading, not work;).....
j.k....like mcgruff says,,,take a bite out of crime...dont do drugs

Powerbook

27-01-2007 16:52:04

I am not TFOAF j4 lol Nice pic though. D

J4320

27-01-2007 17:07:12

couldn't tell the difference

Powerbook

27-01-2007 17:26:52

[quotea23870bd61="J4320"]couldn't tell the difference[/quotea23870bd61]

AH! I am insulted!

h3x

27-01-2007 18:23:06

[quoteb8e54145b7="good2speed"][quoteb8e54145b7="mnx12"]If that company doesn't want drug addicts, then he shouldn't get that job. There is a reason why they do the testing...[/quoteb8e54145b7]

Just to clear some things up... Is everyone that smoke weed a drug addict?[/quoteb8e54145b7]

Yes... According to Mormons. I think they even prohibit drinking coffee, because it's a stimulant. Which would also mean that drinking a Coke or a VAULT on a regular basis makes you a drug addict because you "need the stimulation".

mnx12

27-01-2007 18:33:42

[quotef6e4428d95="h3x"][quotef6e4428d95="good2speed"][quotef6e4428d95="mnx12"]If that company doesn't want drug addicts, then he shouldn't get that job. There is a reason why they do the testing...[/quotef6e4428d95]

Just to clear some things up... Is everyone that smoke weed a drug addict?[/quotef6e4428d95]

Yes... According to Mormons. I think they even prohibit drinking coffee, because it's a stimulant. Which would also mean that drinking a Coke or a VAULT on a regular basis makes you a drug addict because you "need the stimulation".[/quotef6e4428d95]Well yeah, technically caffeine is a drug, and if you are addicted to Coke or whatever, then you are addicted to drugs. Being addicted to stuff doesn't have to be bad. I drink plenty of Coke & Mormons aren't "prohibited" from coffee...

Dave82

27-01-2007 18:42:38

Wow, i'm confused. I thought that the chemicals in your body from the drugs are "a part of the hair," if that makes any sense.

It seems like washes/detergent would strip the hair, but since the hair is still there, and if the hair is comprised partially of the drug chemicals, then it would still be detected in the hair.

I understand a detergent can penetrate the hair strands, and possibly mask/alter the results, but it doesnt make sense that it could "rid" the hairs strands of the chemical.

But that only makes sense if my idea that the drug chemical is a part of the hair strand.

I guess I am thinking that it would be like trying to wash a mole out of your skin. Unless the chemicals coat the hair rather than be a part of it.

Does anyone kind get what I am asking/saying?? (

EatChex89

27-01-2007 20:07:31

[quote7a4b542f3e="Dave82"]Wow, i'm confused. I thought that the chemicals in your body from the drugs are "a part of the hair," if that makes any sense.

It seems like washes/detergent would strip the hair, but since the hair is still there, and if the hair is comprised partially of the drug chemicals, then it would still be detected in the hair.

I understand a detergent can penetrate the hair strands, and possibly mask/alter the results, but it doesnt make sense that it could "rid" the hairs strands of the chemical.

But that only makes sense if my idea that the drug chemical is a part of the hair strand.

I guess I am thinking that it would be like trying to wash a mole out of your skin. Unless the chemicals coat the hair rather than be a part of it.

[b7a4b542f3e]Does anyone kind get what I am asking/saying?? [/b7a4b542f3e] ([/quote7a4b542f3e]

http//www.videogamedc.org/forum/images/smilies/drool.jpg[" alt=""/img7a4b542f3e]

Dave82

27-01-2007 20:59:26

[quote316ae372fa="EatChex89"]

http//www.videogamedc.org/forum/images/smilies/drool.jpg[" alt=""/img316ae372fa][/quote316ae372fa]

i'm going with a negative on that one.

freaky1718

27-01-2007 21:17:51

[quote76893c8599="Dave82"]Wow, i'm confused. I thought that the chemicals in your body from the drugs are "a part of the hair," if that makes any sense.

It seems like washes/detergent would strip the hair, but since the hair is still there, and if the hair is comprised partially of the drug chemicals, then it would still be detected in the hair.

I understand a detergent can penetrate the hair strands, and possibly mask/alter the results, but it doesnt make sense that it could "rid" the hairs strands of the chemical.

But that only makes sense if my idea that the drug chemical is a part of the hair strand.

I guess I am thinking that it would be like trying to wash a mole out of your skin. Unless the chemicals coat the hair rather than be a part of it.

Does anyone kind get what I am asking/saying?? ([/quote76893c8599]

thats what i thought if that is true there will be no shampoo that will take it away. and the only thing that will be is to get a full body wax and including your eyebrows lmao

h3x

27-01-2007 21:46:24

good2speed, I have some good news for you...

[quote6e1f9e3813]As drugs circulate in the blood stream, they enter and nourish hair follicle cells. As cells grow, they trap the drug molecules within the hair cells and are eventually "sealed" in the keratinized hair shaft. Thus, [b6e1f9e3813]the amount and time the drug is in the blood stream is proportional to the amount of drugs detected in the hair. THC stays in your blood for 2-3 days.[/b6e1f9e3813][/quote6e1f9e3813]

Just stay clean now and up until the test and you should be good to go.

Since you bought the shampoo already, use it just to be safe and if you're still worried about passing then try the technique (sans the whole detergent process... that's overkill).

Relax... You'll pass with flying colors )

EatChex89

27-01-2007 22:16:02

I think it was www.marijuana.com that i visited and got excellent tips on how to pass drug tests. I went to the forums.

h3x

27-01-2007 22:59:11

[quotef52e963eaa="EatChex89"]I think it was www.marijuana.com that i visited and got excellent tips on how to pass drug tests. I went to the forums.[/quotef52e963eaa]

Yeah, that's where the technique and that quoted sentence came from... They have an entire forum section dedicated to testing.

good2speed

28-01-2007 09:21:14

[quoteca8e971a4d="freaky1718"][quoteca8e971a4d="Dave82"]Wow, i'm confused. I thought that the chemicals in your body from the drugs are "a part of the hair," if that makes any sense.

It seems like washes/detergent would strip the hair, but since the hair is still there, and if the hair is comprised partially of the drug chemicals, then it would still be detected in the hair.

I understand a detergent can penetrate the hair strands, and possibly mask/alter the results, but it doesnt make sense that it could "rid" the hairs strands of the chemical.

But that only makes sense if my idea that the drug chemical is a part of the hair strand.

I guess I am thinking that it would be like trying to wash a mole out of your skin. Unless the chemicals coat the hair rather than be a part of it.

Does anyone kind get what I am asking/saying?? ([/quoteca8e971a4d]

thats what i thought if that is true there will be no shampoo that will take it away. and the only thing that will be is to get a full body wax and including your eyebrows lmao[/quoteca8e971a4d]

This site has good info to how drug collects in the hair and what methods are best to get rid of it.

http//www.passahairdrugtest.com/passing_a_hair_drug_test.php

good2speed

28-01-2007 09:26:25

[quote0180aed0e1="h3x"]good2speed, I have some good news for you...

[quote0180aed0e1]As drugs circulate in the blood stream, they enter and nourish hair follicle cells. As cells grow, they trap the drug molecules within the hair cells and are eventually "sealed" in the keratinized hair shaft. Thus, [b0180aed0e1]the amount and time the drug is in the blood stream is proportional to the amount of drugs detected in the hair. THC stays in your blood for 2-3 days.[/b0180aed0e1][/quote0180aed0e1]

Just stay clean now and up until the test and you should be good to go.

Since you bought the shampoo already, use it just to be safe and if you're still worried about passing then try the technique (sans the whole detergent process... that's overkill).

Relax... You'll pass with flying colors )[/quote0180aed0e1]

I think you read it incorrectly. What it is saying is THC is in your blood for 2 days but gets deposited in your hair strands and detection in hair follicle for THC can go up to 6 months. I've read up and I will try the methods that seem to be succesful. I have nothing to lose at this point since I dont have the job now anyway. If I fail I'll just apply for another job. No biggie although landing the job would be great.

[quote0180aed0e1="EatChex89"]I think it was www.marijuana.com that i visited and got excellent tips on how to pass drug tests. I went to the forums.[/quote0180aed0e1]

Thx for the site. They have a lot of info regarding the subject.

h3x

28-01-2007 09:42:06

[quotee0bda5e531="good2speed"][quotee0bda5e531="h3x"]good2speed, I have some good news for you...

[quotee0bda5e531]As drugs circulate in the blood stream, they enter and nourish hair follicle cells. As cells grow, they trap the drug molecules within the hair cells and are eventually "sealed" in the keratinized hair shaft. Thus, [be0bda5e531]the amount and time the drug is in the blood stream is proportional to the amount of drugs detected in the hair. THC stays in your blood for 2-3 days.[/be0bda5e531][/quotee0bda5e531]

Just stay clean now and up until the test and you should be good to go.

Since you bought the shampoo already, use it just to be safe and if you're still worried about passing then try the technique (sans the whole detergent process... that's overkill).

Relax... You'll pass with flying colors )[/quotee0bda5e531]

I think you read it incorrectly. What it is saying is THC is in your urine for 2 days but gets deposited in your hair strands and detection in hair follicle for THC can go up to 6 months. I've read up and I will try the methods that seem to be succesful. I have nothing to lose at this point since I dont have the job now anyway. If I fail I'll just apply for another job. No biggie although landing the job would be great.

[quotee0bda5e531="EatChex89"]I think it was www.marijuana.com that i visited and got excellent tips on how to pass drug tests. I went to the forums.[/quotee0bda5e531]

Thx for the site. They have a lot of info regarding the subject.[/quotee0bda5e531]

THC stays in your urine for up to 30 days... THC stays in your blood for 2-3 days on average.

Now that you mention it, I do recall that THC metabolites sticks around in your hair for a long period of time if you smoke heavily and you don't cut your hair often.

Anyways, check out that forum on MJ, that's where the technique came from and someone should be able to help you out with hair testing.

I've never had a hair test once in my life, so I've never really done the research on it, but I'm sure you'll find people that have been in your situation before that had to take a hair test... They should be able to help you out more than I can... Good luck. (I still say you'll do alright).

good2speed

02-02-2007 09:26:09

Just got my results back and I passed. Sorry mnx I know you were rooting for the positive result. Anyways the method I used works and I would recommend to any chronic smokers who are faced with this problem.

1. Wash hair with dishwashing liquid rinse off with tap water
2. Soak hair in vinegar for 5 minutes. Wash off using distilled water[/coloraad62ca091]
3. Use toxin wash (do a google search) and shampoo into hair for about 10-15 minutes. Wash out with distilled water again. Repeat step 3 one more time and you should be fine.

It can be beaten........

J4320

02-02-2007 09:27:38

[quotef30237ec02="good2speed"]Just got my results back and I passed. [bf30237ec02]Sorry mnx I know you were rooting for the positive result.[/bf30237ec02] Anyways the method I used works and I would recommend to any chronic smokers who are faced with this problem.

1. Wash hair with dishwashing liquid rinse off with tap water
2. Soak hair in vinegar for 5 minutes. Wash off using distilled water
3. Use toxin wash (do a google search) and shampoo into hair for about 10-15 minutes. Wash out with distilled water again. Repeat step 3 one more time and you should be fine.

It can be beaten........
[/colorf30237ec02][/quotef30237ec02]

Yeah I think mnx should die.

wink

BD2006BD

02-02-2007 09:47:43

If you lose your job becasue you fail the test, make sure you post it here... I will have a good laugh.

liCrosses fingers hoping that he failsli

good2speed

02-02-2007 11:51:58

[quote7b72a5dd22="BD2006BD"]If you lose your job becasue you fail the test, make sure you post it here... I will have a good laugh.

liCrosses fingers hoping that he failsli[/quote7b72a5dd22]

wonders why you would hope I fail.

[quote7b72a5dd22="BD2006BD"]Our minimum wage was raised in MO, but it doesn't affect me because I am a waiter. $2.13/hr plus tips.[/quote7b72a5dd22]

BD2006BD

02-02-2007 11:53:37

Because I am a waiter? or because I make $2.13? I am happy with my job and I make enough money.

TryinToGetPaid

02-02-2007 11:58:40

I can say the only person I do not like hearing from besides Foafy - is good2speed.

Dave82

02-02-2007 14:42:37

This is comforting that places that are a "drug free" environment really are not. Not that it is a big deal if you are a programmer. It isnt like you are driving a school bus. But it just makes me wonder. Hopefully for hospital jobs or school jobs they blood test. But probably not, people say that so many doctors are users.

The world sucks.

"congrats" on passing your test though.

Jams44

02-02-2007 14:58:05

Wow! Nice job passing the test. I don't see why everyone takes this shit so personally (other than h3x and some others). If you criticize mj users, look at yourself. You obviously are doing something wrong if good2speed is getting a better job than you! ) No but seriously, if it helps someone so be it, let them get arrested by themselves. I smoke so I understand where he's coming from, I smoke even after being expelled from one school and I seem to do pretty fine in life. Submitting my college applications to RISD and some other european art schools and guess what, I'm sure there are plenty of smokers there. So lighten up (literally) and give the guy a break.

Also,

My To-Die List

TheySayJump
H3x
good2speed
TFOAF
dmorris

//JK

TryinToGetPaid

02-02-2007 15:09:39

For hospitals it is a piss test.

good2speed

03-02-2007 11:42:04

[quote7b8f8ed279="Dave82"]Not that it is a big deal if you are a programmer. It isnt like you are driving a school bus.

"congrats" on passing your test though.[/quote7b8f8ed279]

[quote7b8f8ed279="Jams44"]Wow! Nice job passing the test. I don't see why everyone takes this shit so personally...... I'm sure there are plenty of smokers there. So lighten up (literally) and give the guy a break.
[/quote7b8f8ed279]

Thank you guys for your support and open mindedness.

[quote7b8f8ed279="TryinToGetPaid"]For hospitals it is a piss test.[/quote7b8f8ed279]

The cost of conducting a hair test sample has gone down significantly and most everyone will sooner or later be forced in for a hair sample. The hair provides a much more accurate account of what drugs a person may use. If the person is intelligent he/she can go research the internet and find information towards passing this test.

Not too many people may be aware of this method as evidenced by some of the posts in this thread. I do apologize as this thread may be inappropriate to anyone who has a severe drug problem(coc, crack, heroin). Mods please feel free to delete this thread as there are a lot of impressionable kids in here and I don't want to give them advice on how to pass something of this nature.

Dr. Doom

03-02-2007 14:19:47

I could be wrong (it's happened before), but how is it any employer's business what you do on your personal time? I should be allowed to drink, smoke and fuck all I want, as long I come in to work and do the job that's expected of me when I'm on the clock.

Fuck all the haters.

h3x

03-02-2007 16:51:59

See? What did I tell you? I know you would pass.

Congrats

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BD2006BD

03-02-2007 19:18:36

[quoteac56320911="Dr. Doom"]I could be wrong (it's happened before), but how is it any employer's business what you do on your personal time? I should be allowed to drink, smoke and fuck all I want, as long I come in to work and do the job that's expected of me when I'm on the clock.

Fuck all the haters.[/quoteac56320911]

He said he programs high, so that means he was "on the job".

Veek

03-02-2007 19:40:21

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dmorris68

03-02-2007 19:53:56

FYI, this is the sort of thread that will be swished away after we come up on the new host.

JOSHBOX

03-02-2007 23:49:09

[quoteaa8a405671="dmorris68"]FYI, this is the sort of thread that will be swished away after we come up on the new host.[/quoteaa8a405671]

goodbye freedom

Dr. Doom

03-02-2007 23:57:22

[quote1766c7e46c="BD2006BD"][quote1766c7e46c="Dr. Doom"]I could be wrong (it's happened before), but how is it any employer's business what you do on your personal time? I should be allowed to drink, smoke and fuck all I want, as long I come in to work and do the job that's expected of me when I'm on the clock.

Fuck all the haters.[/quote1766c7e46c]

He said he programs high, so that means he was "on the job".[/quote1766c7e46c]

If they're worried about him being high on the job, then they should do an on-the-spot urine test. And if he fails then, tough luck, because that's just irresponsible. I'd fire a drunk asshole in a second, so the same goes for anyone who isn't sober on company time.

[quote1766c7e46c="dmorris68"]FYI, this is the sort of thread that will be swished away after we come up on the new host.[/quote1766c7e46c]

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h3x

04-02-2007 04:09:18

[quoteefbae3737e="JOSHBOX"]goodbye freedom[/quoteefbae3737e]

[quoteefbae3737e="Dr. Doom"]http//www.israelnewsagency.com/Internet%20censorship.gif[/quoteefbae3737e]

I'm sure Ty and Dave have a good reason, whether its due to the new host's policies or because there is a concern for security..

Also, there are a lot of minors that frequent this forum and I can see how threads like these might encourage a minor to experiment with drugs because their "peers" (other board members) are engaging.

I made a thread dedicated to Marijuana awhile back, but then I realised that there were a few minors that were posting in the thread, so I stopped posting.

Regardless of the reason, you have to keep in mind that anyone has access to the boards and with a new surge of users coming here to trade, you never know how young the person is, and the last thing that I want to do, is encourage a minor to try marijuana just because I'm an adult that uses marijuana responsibly.

dmorris68

04-02-2007 09:22:29

Dr. Doom, I hope you realize there is no such thing as "Freedom of Speech" and 1st Amendment protection in a private forum. I love it when people pull out that card as if it applies to anything other than a protection against [i76979da08d]government[/i76979da08d] restriction. Just like you can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, or curse out your boss without getting fired, you can't talk about whatever you like in a privately owned location/forum if it goes against the owner's wishes.

It's not about censorship, it's about (a) reducing legal liability, and (b) presenting a semi-professional image. FiPG is about to become a business venture, or at least closely associated with a business, moreso than it has in the past. We have to clean up our image.

Everyone who disagrees is certainly free to find somewhere else to post about their warez, drug use, music downloads, and goat pr0n.

YourGiftsFree

04-02-2007 09:38:17

[quote36d1090716="dmorris68"]Dr. Doom, I hope you realize there is no such thing as "Freedom of Speech" and 1st Amendment protection in a private forum. I love it when people pull out that card as if it applies to anything other than a protection against [i36d1090716]government[/i36d1090716] restriction. Just like you can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, or curse out your boss without getting fired, you can't talk about whatever you like in a privately owned location/forum if it goes against the owner's wishes.

It's not about censorship, it's about (a) reducing legal liability, and (b) presenting a semi-professional image. FiPG is about to become a business venture, or at least closely associated with a business, moreso than it has in the past. We have to clean up our image.

Everyone who disagrees is certainly free to find somewhere else to post about their warez, drug use, music downloads, and goat pr0n.[/quote36d1090716]

Dmorris is correct. See those text links at the top? They wont allow you to advertise with places with content like this.

Dr. Doom

04-02-2007 12:01:04

Don't get me wrong; I'm not criticizing the owners and operators of FIPG for the changes that are being made. If there's a profit to be made in changing some things around, why not?

The point I was making is simply a reflection of my own philosophy about censorship. While I agree that it's not right to encourage minors to do drugs and download porn, I also believe it's not my responsibility to censor myself for their sake. That's what their parents are for. If I was a parent, I would take it upon myself to protect my kids from accessing information I don't want them to and not rely on any website to police itself to protect my children.

I've been a member of many boards for many years, and I always find myself coming back to the boards that have a "free flow of information" and frequenting censored boards less and less. I might be in the minority, but what's kept me coming back to FIPG was the former. As the board transforms to the latter, I wouldn't be surprised if a chunk of the posters who are here now will find themselves coming back here less often.

Once again, this is not a criticism; perhaps just a biased observation.

Dave82

04-02-2007 12:42:08

[quote5c8a87f2dc="good2speed"][quote5c8a87f2dc="Dave82"]
"congrats" on passing your test though.[/quote5c8a87f2dc]

Thank you guys for your support and open mindedness.

[/quote5c8a87f2dc]

erm.... i dont think it is that big of a deal in your case, but really i wouldnt want to employee a drug user. i put congrats in quotes for a reason.

you maybe be fine, but rules are there for a reason, and in general (again i am not saying YOU, but in general), who would want to have a drug user in their work place?

Wouldnt you be pissed if you had kids and the bus driver used cocaine in his/her free time outside of school, but still found a way to pass the hiring drug test???

edit i know cocaine if different than marijuana, i was just making a point

tylerc

04-02-2007 13:17:30

Dave-

It's different, at least to me. He is a computer programmer, and his marijuana use is not directly affecting anyone. A school bus driver's drug use could obviously affect other lives.

zdub08

04-02-2007 13:27:12

What makes a drug?

Weed isn't addictive, and smoking weed isn't worse than drinking alcohol, which is addictive.

Maybe everyone that criticized this horrible drug user should think about what they have put in their bodies the last few weeks instead of blindly following the rules given to them..

Dave82

04-02-2007 13:28:32

[quote8f8f958c9f="tylerc"]Dave-

It's different, at least to me. He is a computer programmer, and his marijuana use is not directly affecting anyone. A school bus driver's drug use could obviously affect other lives.[/quote8f8f958c9f]

and i know that. I mentioned that it doesnt really matter so much in his case.

But in general if i were hiring people, and i had very similar candidates, but one used drugs and one did not, i would want to hire the clean person.

He isnt driving a bus or giving shots to people. But there are people who dont want to work with people who use drugs, even if the use recreationally. So if they select to work in a drug free environment, it kinda sucks that people can find ways to cheat these tests.

Again, in his case it isnt a big deal. I get the feeling he isnt dealing with too many people. He basically programs at a desk and attends meetings. I was just amking a point. he doesnt seems to let drugs control his life.

i am more upset with the fact that these tests serve a purpose and people are cheating them. I dont use drugs. Therefore i am on the losing end of these types of scenarios.

Dave82

04-02-2007 14:07:01

[quote8c19afeccf="zdub08"]What makes a drug?

Weed isn't addictive, and smoking weed isn't worse than drinking alcohol, which is addictive.

Maybe everyone that criticized this horrible drug user should think about what they have put in their bodies the last few weeks instead of blindly following the rules given to them..[/quote8c19afeccf]

i wasnt so much critisizing him as much as i was the situation. I mentioned in my posts that i was not speaking to [i8c19afeccf]his[/i8c19afeccf] case.

Companies that run drug tests do not want someone that uses substances in their workplace, and they get screwed in these cases. If you were hiring someone and asked if they graduated from college xyz with a degree in lalala as indicated by their resume and they lied and said yes, but really they didnt.... that might upset you. Even if they still knew how to do the job perfectly, it might still bother you that they lied. well i would be bothered if someone essentially "lied" about their drug use.

I am sure he programs wonderfully and is better/more punctual/efficient/whatever than some people who dont smoke pot, i am just saying that if i hired someone into a drug free environment, i would want that person to be drug free. and it would suck for me and my associates if they cheated the test.

i'm not preaching. Drugs do happen to be illegal in this country. I am not arguing that they are neccesarily bad/not bad, I am saying that they are illegal. I didnt say it was HORRIBLE. I know people who do things that are legal and are still horrible people. I download music illegally. I dont think i am a HORRIBLE person.

[b8c19afeccf]My comments were more about him CHEATING the test rather than smoking.[/b8c19afeccf]

I am just saying that it sucks for people who do the hiring that he is cheating the test. And it sucks for me, as an individual that wants to work in a drug free environment.

[b8c19afeccf]I am not calling him a HORRIBLE USER for using drugs. [/b8c19afeccf] Just SUCKS FOR ME THAT PEOPLE ARE CHEATING THESE TESTS.

zdub08

04-02-2007 15:28:07

[quote1def2cee65="Dave82"][quote1def2cee65="zdub08"]What makes a drug?

Weed isn't addictive, and smoking weed isn't worse than drinking alcohol, which is addictive.

Maybe everyone that criticized this horrible drug user should think about what they have put in their bodies the last few weeks instead of blindly following the rules given to them..[/quote1def2cee65]

i wasnt so much critisizing him as much as i was the situation. I mentioned in my posts that i was not speaking to [i1def2cee65]his[/i1def2cee65] case.

Companies that run drug tests do not want someone that uses substances in their workplace, and they get screwed in these cases. If you were hiring someone and asked if they graduated from college xyz with a degree in lalala as indicated by their resume and they lied and said yes, but really they didnt.... that might upset you. Even if they still knew how to do the job perfectly, it might still bother you that they lied. well i would be bothered if someone essentially "lied" about their drug use.

I am sure he programs wonderfully and is better/more punctual/efficient/whatever than some people who dont smoke pot, i am just saying that if i hired someone into a drug free environment, i would want that person to be drug free. and it would suck for me and my associates if they cheated the test.

i'm not preaching. Drugs do happen to be illegal in this country. I am not arguing that they are neccesarily bad/not bad, I am saying that they are illegal. I didnt say it was HORRIBLE. I know people who do things that are legal and are still horrible people. I download music illegally. I dont think i am a HORRIBLE person.

[b1def2cee65]My comments were more about him CHEATING the test rather than smoking.[/b1def2cee65]

I am just saying that it sucks for people who do the hiring that he is cheating the test. And it sucks for me, as an individual that wants to work in a drug free environment.

[b1def2cee65]I am not calling him a HORRIBLE USER for using drugs. [/b1def2cee65] Just SUCKS FOR ME THAT PEOPLE ARE CHEATING THESE TESTS.[/quote1def2cee65]
I know what you mean. My post wasn't necessarily in response to yours, I just wanted to get people thinking.