Any Cigar smokers here?? (7-11/Wawa Cigars not included)

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=51572

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 16:09:24

What kind do you prefer and and where do you order yours from?

Iwas thinking about picking up a box of Padron 2000M or 3000M cigars and some CAO Golds (Corona)

I actually found this awesome cigar review website that provides customer reviews and ratings. Almost every cigar in existance can be found here

http//www.top25cigar.com/reviewdatabase/

TFOAF

15-01-2007 16:10:22

Stop smoking.

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 16:14:09

Cigars are not that bad for you compared to cigarettes as they have no chemicals and your do not inhale them.

I mean they arnt 100% healthy but no where near as bad as cigarettes

bballp6699

15-01-2007 16:33:59

[offtopic]

Tell your dad to kick the shit out of the refs that were at the Eagles/Saint game.

[/offtopic]

Not really a smoker, but I imagine those cigars are way more expensive than they're worth.

mcal44

15-01-2007 16:43:37

my two favorite brands of (reasonably priced) cigars are Punch and Romeo y Julieta.

I only smoke once or twice a month, but I did master blowing smoke rings the other day!

Kidd

15-01-2007 16:51:23

romeo y julieta
cohiba
montecristo
cao golds

they are among my favorites

i have a decent sized humidor filled. i have some pre-castro cubans in there that are supposed to be good but for collector sake i wont touch them.

and why do u have to come in here saying stop smoking im pretty sure 100 percent of the people who smoke know its bad for them.

doylnea

15-01-2007 16:54:38

[quote3b0e747287="ffactoryxx"]Cigars are not that bad for you compared to cigarettes as they have no chemicals and your do not inhale them.

I mean they arnt 100% healthy but no where near as bad as cigarettes[/quote3b0e747287]

Not be a dick, but you're wrong. (I'm adamantly against smoking for personal reasons)

[quote3b0e747287]One common misconception about cigars is that they are not harmful because most users do not inhale them.

"Cigar smoking is considered by many consumers to be a harmless alternative to cigarette smoking," Pitofsky says. "According to the Surgeon General and scientific evidence to the contrary, they are dead wrong. These settlements will help end that misperception and ensure that consumers receive clear and prominent warnings about the risk of indulging in cigars."[/quote3b0e747287]
http//www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_1_1x_Surgeon_Generals_Warning_to_Appear_on_Cigar_Packaging.asp

Wolfeman

15-01-2007 17:36:56

I like cohibas...

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 17:38:40

[quotedbca1af8db="Wolfeman"]I like cohibas...[/quotedbca1af8db]

Well Cohiba Habana's are good but the Dominica Replublics in the states are just allright.

I had 2 boxes of Real Cohiba's a while back that I got while on a cruise and they rocked

irannaked

15-01-2007 17:45:46

i perfer white owl, apple.

they go great with marijuana )

Veek

15-01-2007 17:45:48

[quotecff76dc3c2="doylnea"][quotecff76dc3c2="ffactoryxx"]Cigars are not that bad for you compared to cigarettes as they have no chemicals and your do not inhale them.

I mean they arnt 100% healthy but no where near as bad as cigarettes[/quotecff76dc3c2]

Not be a dick, but you're wrong. (I'm adamantly against smoking for personal reasons)

[quotecff76dc3c2]One common misconception about cigars is that they are not harmful because most users do not inhale them.

"Cigar smoking is considered by many consumers to be a harmless alternative to cigarette smoking," Pitofsky says. "According to the Surgeon General and scientific evidence to the contrary, they are dead wrong. These settlements will help end that misperception and ensure that consumers receive clear and prominent warnings about the risk of indulging in cigars."[/quotecff76dc3c2]
http//www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_1_1x_Surgeon_Generals_Warning_to_Appear_on_Cigar_Packaging.asp[/quotecff76dc3c2]


Oooooo! Thanks for that. D

zdub08

15-01-2007 17:53:08

[quote9864f901ef="doylnea"][quote9864f901ef="ffactoryxx"]Cigars are not that bad for you compared to cigarettes as they have no chemicals and your do not inhale them.

I mean they arnt 100% healthy but no where near as bad as cigarettes[/quote9864f901ef]

Not be a dick, but you're wrong. (I'm adamantly against smoking for personal reasons)

[quote9864f901ef]One common misconception about cigars is that they are not harmful because most users do not inhale them.

"Cigar smoking is considered by many consumers to be a harmless alternative to cigarette smoking," Pitofsky says. "According to the Surgeon General and scientific evidence to the contrary, they are dead wrong. These settlements will help end that misperception and ensure that consumers receive clear and prominent warnings about the risk of indulging in cigars."[/quote9864f901ef]
http//www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_1_1x_Surgeon_Generals_Warning_to_Appear_on_Cigar_Packaging.asp[/quote9864f901ef]
lal

that says youre 7.8 times more likely to get cancer from cigars than a person who has never smoked [i9864f901ef][b9864f901ef]if you smoke 3 cigars a day..[/b9864f901ef][/i9864f901ef]

and what's the chance of getting lung cancer for someone who has never smoked before..? maybe 1/100,000 x 7.8 = [i9864f901ef][b9864f901ef][u9864f901ef]7.8/100,000 people who smoke 3 cigars a day die from lung cancer?[/u9864f901ef][/b9864f901ef][/i9864f901ef]

those results are misleading to say the least..

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 17:55:19

[quote2164352c07="zdub08"][quote2164352c07="doylnea"][quote2164352c07="ffactoryxx"]Cigars are not that bad for you compared to cigarettes as they have no chemicals and your do not inhale them.

I mean they arnt 100% healthy but no where near as bad as cigarettes[/quote2164352c07]

Not be a dick, but you're wrong. (I'm adamantly against smoking for personal reasons)

[quote2164352c07]One common misconception about cigars is that they are not harmful because most users do not inhale them.

"Cigar smoking is considered by many consumers to be a harmless alternative to cigarette smoking," Pitofsky says. "According to the Surgeon General and scientific evidence to the contrary, they are dead wrong. These settlements will help end that misperception and ensure that consumers receive clear and prominent warnings about the risk of indulging in cigars."[/quote2164352c07]
http//www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_1_1x_Surgeon_Generals_Warning_to_Appear_on_Cigar_Packaging.asp[/quote2164352c07]
lal

that says youre 7.8 times more likely to get cancer from cigars than a person who has never smoked [i2164352c07][b2164352c07]if you smoke 3 cigars a day..[/b2164352c07][/i2164352c07]

and what's the chance of getting lung cancer for someone who has never smoked before..? maybe 1/100,000 x 7.8 = [i2164352c07][b2164352c07][u2164352c07]7.8/100,000 people who smoke 3 cigars a day die from lung cancer?[/u2164352c07][/b2164352c07][/i2164352c07]

those results are misleading to say the least..[/quote2164352c07]

Exactly, plus im lucky if i smoke 1 a week and thats when i have them.

doylnea

15-01-2007 18:11:55

[quote89897cdb62="zdub08"][quote89897cdb62="doylnea"][quote89897cdb62="ffactoryxx"]Cigars are not that bad for you compared to cigarettes as they have no chemicals and your do not inhale them.

I mean they arnt 100% healthy but no where near as bad as cigarettes[/quote89897cdb62]

Not be a dick, but you're wrong. (I'm adamantly against smoking for personal reasons)

[quote89897cdb62]One common misconception about cigars is that they are not harmful because most users do not inhale them.

"Cigar smoking is considered by many consumers to be a harmless alternative to cigarette smoking," Pitofsky says. "According to the Surgeon General and scientific evidence to the contrary, they are dead wrong. These settlements will help end that misperception and ensure that consumers receive clear and prominent warnings about the risk of indulging in cigars."[/quote89897cdb62]
http//www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_1_1x_Surgeon_Generals_Warning_to_Appear_on_Cigar_Packaging.asp[/quote89897cdb62]
lal

that says youre 7.8 times more likely to get cancer from cigars than a person who has never smoked [i89897cdb62][b89897cdb62]if you smoke 3 cigars a day..[/b89897cdb62][/i89897cdb62]

and what's the chance of getting lung cancer for someone who has never smoked before..? maybe 1/100,000 x 7.8 = [i89897cdb62][b89897cdb62][u89897cdb62]7.8/100,000 people who smoke 3 cigars a day die from lung cancer?[/u89897cdb62][/b89897cdb62][/i89897cdb62]

those results are misleading to say the least..[/quote89897cdb62]
a) Try reading all the words, in the order they're written.

[quote89897cdb62]That risk increased [b89897cdb62]more [/b89897cdb62]among men who smoked three or more cigars a day (to 7.8 times the risk of men who have never smoked) and men who inhale their cigar smoke (who have 11.3 times the risk of lung cancer death of nonsmokers).[/quote89897cdb62]...that is to say, the risk of cancer is already present, but increases to 7.8 times the risk of those who have never smoked if someone smokes 3 cigars a day.

[quote89897cdb62]Even men who said they did not inhale their cigar smoke had lung cancer death rates more than three times those of men who had never smoked.[/quote89897cdb62]
hmm, what could that mean, is that misleading at all?

b) further, just because you've succeeded in pissing me off, here's some more info for you to try to refute
[quote89897cdb62][b89897cdb62]Do Cigars Cause Cancer?[/size89897cdb62][/b89897cdb62]
Cigar smoking increases your risk of death from several cancers, including cancer of the lung, oral cavity (lip, tongue, mouth, throat), esophagus (the tube connecting the mouth to the stomach), and larynx (voice box). [b89897cdb62]Studies have shown that male cigar smokers are 7 to 10 times more likely to die from oral and laryngeal cancers than nonsmokers.[/b89897cdb62] In addition, when saliva containing cigar smoke chemicals is swallowed, the esophagus is exposed to carcinogens. The death rate from esophageal cancer is several times higher in male cigar smokers than in males who have never smoked. [b89897cdb62]If you inhale, cigar smoking appears to be linked to death from cancer of the pancreas and bladder, as well.[/b89897cdb62]

How and how much you smoke is important. Cigar smokers may spend up to an hour smoking a single large cigar that can contain as much tobacco as a pack of cigarettes. Smoking more cigars each day or inhaling cigar smoke leads to more exposure and higher risks. Studies have shown your risk of death is higher if you smoke 3 or more cigars than if you smoke 2 or fewer cigars a day. The health risks associated with occasional cigar smoking (less than daily) are not known.[/quote89897cdb62]

[quote89897cdb62][b89897cdb62]Does Inhaling Affect the Risk of Cancer?[/size89897cdb62][/b89897cdb62]
While almost all cigarette smokers inhale, most cigar smokers do not. This may be because cigar smoke is generally more irritating. An emerging trend among cigar companies is to change the fermenting process of their products to make them easier to inhale. This same curing and fermenting process further enhances the flavor but also increases the levels of harmful ingredients.

For those who do not inhale, tobacco smoke does not reach the lungs in the same quantity as it does in cigarette smokers. Therefore, the risk of death from lung cancer is not as high as it is for cigarette smokers, but is still several times higher than the risk for nonsmokers.

Cigar smokers with a history of cigarette smoking are more likely to inhale. According to a recent American Cancer Society study, those who inhale have an increased risk of death from lung cancer, 11 times greater than that of nonsmokers.

The study also found that for those who inhale, the risks are increased for other types of cancer. Compared to nonsmokers, cigar smokers who inhale deeply are 6 times more likely to die from oral cancer and 39 times more likely to die from cancer of the larynx. They also face more than twice the risk of death from pancreatic cancer and more than 3 times the risk of death from bladder cancer compared to nonsmokers.[/quote89897cdb62]
http//www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_10_2X_Cigar_Smoking.asp

And this is not to say I'm perfect, I've smoked a fair number of cigars while playing golf, and one of my favorite memories ever is smoking a Cuban Cohiba on the roof of my hotel in Panama City, Panama 8 years ago. The fact is though, that cigars are dangerous and carcinogenic, even if you don't inhale, and if you try to ignore that, you're only hurting yourself, and the ones who love you.

YourGiftsFree

15-01-2007 18:15:24

All smoking is bad, period.

zdub08

15-01-2007 18:20:19

I didn't read your post, but maybe they should do a study that explains how youre a thousand times less likely to get cancer from smoking cigars than cigarettes.

My math is right in that situation so don't tell me I read it wrong. Saying you're 1, 7.8, or even 1,000,000 times more likely to die from someone who has never smoked is dumb. You're multiplying the likeliness by such an insignificantly small number that it doesn't really prove anything. So cigar smokers are 7.8 times more likely to die from lung cancer than someone who has no chance of getting lung cancer. Anything multiplied by 0 is 0. And 0.00001 is damn close to 0.

EDIT I just read those new quotes, and they say the exact same thing. You are [id5c627b8ee]n[/id5c627b8ee] times more likely. Although big numbers seem bad, most people should (but almost never do) ask themselves [bd5c627b8ee]TIMES WHAT?[/bd5c627b8ee][/sized5c627b8ee]

times fucking nothing

benner410

15-01-2007 18:27:45

Try Avo's.

CollidgeGraduit

15-01-2007 18:31:32

[quotec82cb9d58e="zdub08"]I didn't read your post, but maybe they should do a study that explains how youre a thousand times less likely to get cancer from smoking cigars than cigarettes.

My math is right in that situation so don't tell me I read it wrong. Saying you're 1, 7.8, or even 1,000,000 times more likely to die from someone who has never smoked is dumb. You're multiplying the likeliness by such an insignificantly small number that it doesn't really prove anything. So cigar smokers are 7.8 times more likely to die from lung cancer than someone who has no chance of getting lung cancer. Anything multiplied by 0 is 0. And 0.00001 is damn close to 0.

EDIT I just read those new quotes, and they say the exact same thing. You are [ic82cb9d58e]n[/ic82cb9d58e] times more likely. Although big numbers seem bad, most people should (but almost never do) ask themselves [bc82cb9d58e]TIMES WHAT?[/bc82cb9d58e][/sizec82cb9d58e]

times fucking nothing[/quotec82cb9d58e]

If you find someone whose risk of getting cancer is 0, let me know.

doylnea

15-01-2007 18:32:02

Because you have a bigger e-cock than me, it's clear I'll lose (der, lose interest in) this discussion pretty quickly Zdub, but go back the original post to which I responded

[quote9af33640d1="ffactoryxx"]Cigars are not that bad for you compared to cigarettes as they have no chemicals and your do not inhale them. [/quote9af33640d1]

In 20 words or less

Cigars have chemicals, and even if you don't inhale, they're still bad for you, nearly as bad as cigarettes.

dupebag

15-01-2007 18:34:13

smoking is badd for you...the most OK thing to smoke is probably weed

Kidd

15-01-2007 18:35:13

not to say i dont dip into the weed every once in a while but isnt weed just as bad as tobacco with an added bonus ( decent high)


The Impact on the Body

Chronic marijuana smokers are prey to chest colds, bronchitis, emphysema, and bronchial asthma. Persistent use will damage lungs and airways and raise the risk of cancer. There is just as much exposure to cancer-causing chemicals from smoking one marijuana joint as smoking five tobacco cigarettes. And there is evidence that marijuana may limit the ability of the immune system to fight infection and disease.

Marijuana also affects hormones. Regular use can delay the onset of puberty in young men and reduce sperm production. For women, regular use may disrupt normal monthly menstrual cycles and inhibit ovulation. When pregnant women use marijuana, they run the risk of having smaller babies with lower birth weights, who are more likely than other babies to develop health problems. Some studies have also found indications of developmental delays in children exposed to marijuana before birth.

zdub08

15-01-2007 18:41:56

Hey CG, I found something that puts you at risk below .001 for lung cancer, it's called not smoking it all, and it's exactly what the article used!

dolynea you could have just admitted youre wrong, but after you searched for statistics and made huge posts about BS you told me about my e-cock roll

I don't even smoke cigars, those "reputable sources" just piss me off.

Kidd

15-01-2007 18:47:27

get off tobacco dangers and back to some good ol cigars.

i like punch gusto

do you guys smoke down to the nub?

dupebag

15-01-2007 18:48:33

speaking of weed...i helped some kid on his test and he said he'll share a blunt with me....i love my school

doylnea

15-01-2007 18:50:07

[quoteef6d501b6d="zdub08"]dolynea you could have just admitted youre wrong, but after you searched for statistics and made huge posts about BS you told me about my e-cock roll

I don't even smoke cigars, those "reputable sources" just piss me off.[/quoteef6d501b6d]

A) I'm not wrong, I just don't debate with ignorant people.
b) You calling the American Cancer Society and research from the CDC disreputable is better than anything I could have dreamed up to discredit you. Thank you.

irannaked

15-01-2007 18:55:25

[quote98c2974d57="Kidd"]not to say i dont dip into the weed every once in a while but isnt weed just as bad as tobacco with an added bonus ( decent high)


The Impact on the Body

Chronic marijuana smokers are prey to chest colds, bronchitis, emphysema, and bronchial asthma. Persistent use will damage lungs and airways and raise the risk of cancer. There is just as much exposure to cancer-causing chemicals from smoking one marijuana joint as smoking five tobacco cigarettes. And there is evidence that marijuana may limit the ability of the immune system to fight infection and disease.

Marijuana also affects hormones. Regular use can delay the onset of puberty in young men and reduce sperm production. For women, regular use may disrupt normal monthly menstrual cycles and inhibit ovulation. When pregnant women use marijuana, they run the risk of having smaller babies with lower birth weights, who are more likely than other babies to develop health problems. Some studies have also found indications of developmental delays in children exposed to marijuana before birth.[/quote98c2974d57]

do you proven scientific research that can PROVE this?


and not some bullshit study done in the 70's or 60's, because we all know they used massive amounts of marijuana in those test's...

zdub08

15-01-2007 19:05:59

[quote8321eb9a70="doylnea"][quote8321eb9a70="zdub08"]dolynea you could have just admitted youre wrong, but after you searched for statistics and made huge posts about BS you told me about my e-cock roll

I don't even smoke cigars, those "reputable sources" just piss me off.[/quote8321eb9a70]

A) I'm not wrong, I just don't debate with ignorant people.
b) You calling the American Cancer Society and research from the CDC disreputable is better than anything I could have dreamed up to discredit you. Thank you.[/quote8321eb9a70]
I didn't say they were disreputable. Maybe you should work on interpreting those lab results rather than my language. Everything is deceiving, and those statistics are no different. The occassional cigar smoker probably hurts himself as much as the occassional McDonalds eater.

Thanks for calling me ignorant though; do you mods temp-ban yourselves?

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 19:10:10

All i wanted to do is talk Cigars and not have a huge fucking debate on the effects and who's right or wrong

Im responsible for my own life and am old enough to make decisions for myself. I do agree with both sides but i mean what isnt harful for you today and what doesnt have its own study on its effects.

Not to be a dick, but if you have nothing good to add can we all just shut the fuck up, stop the pointless arguing and get back to the finer things in life like

SWEET SWEET CIGARS

CollidgeGraduit

15-01-2007 19:12:45

[quote61972ea5d0="zdub08"]Hey CG, I found something that puts you at risk below .001 for lung cancer, it's called not smoking it all, and it's exactly what the article used!

dolynea you could have just admitted youre wrong, but after you searched for statistics and made huge posts about BS you told me about my e-cock roll

I don't even smoke cigars, those "reputable sources" just piss me off.[/quote61972ea5d0]

What about inhaling second-hand smoke? What about people who developed lung cancer without smoking? What about inhaling carcinogens such as formaldehyde or asbestos?

irannaked

15-01-2007 19:15:16

[quote7cbc807901="ffactoryxx"]All i wanted to do is talk Cigars and not have a huge fucking debate on the effects and who's right or wrong

Im responsible for my own life and am old enough to make decisions for myself. I do agree with both sides but i mean what isnt harful for you today and what doesnt have its own study on its effects.

Not to be a dick, but if you have nothing good to add can we all just shut the fuck up, stop the pointless arguing and get back to the finer things in life like

SWEET SWEET CIGARS[/quote7cbc807901]

ok, i don't daily smoke cigars, but when i do the cheapest one's are good for me.


there

zdub08

15-01-2007 19:17:13

[quote172ce1b037="CollidgeGraduit"][quote172ce1b037="zdub08"]Hey CG, I found something that puts you at risk below .001 for lung cancer, it's called not smoking it all, and it's exactly what the article used!

dolynea you could have just admitted youre wrong, but after you searched for statistics and made huge posts about BS you told me about my e-cock roll

I don't even smoke cigars, those "reputable sources" just piss me off.[/quote172ce1b037]

What about inhaling second-hand smoke? What about people who developed lung cancer without smoking? What about inhaling carcinogens such as formaldehyde or asbestos?[/quote172ce1b037]
I guess we're still debating...

The number I gave you a few posts up was .001, also known as 1/1000. Factor in all those things you just said, and I'm sure less than 1/1000 people that don't smoke die from lung cancer. Multiply that by 7.8 ... oh fuck you're a goner..

However ignorant I may be, I know basic math

Kidd

15-01-2007 19:24:34

when your a beginner dont smoke the expensive stuff becuase you wont know any better progress onto the good stuff over time.

i can say its one of the best hours in my whole week with that cohiba )

dupebag

15-01-2007 19:24:38

stop the debating and lets get lit
yesss

BD2006BD

15-01-2007 19:26:49

Smoking an hour long cigar with some friends is pretty awesome. Especially at something like a bonfire or playing cards.

Who cares if cigars are bad for you? Why has this thread turned into a debate.. I don't want to know all this crap about 'oh you are going to get cancer.. blah blah blah..."

Kidd

15-01-2007 19:29:51

i mean dude everyone is gonna die why not spend it smoking those amazingly rolled cigars

zdub08

15-01-2007 19:32:37

[quote6bde83f7f9="Kidd"]i mean dude everyone is gonna die why not spend it smoking those amazingly rolled cigars[/quote6bde83f7f9]
because you'll leave your son/daughter/cousin/niece/nephew/family member you are close to, dolynea, behind.. and all he will do is cry on message boards

theysayjump

15-01-2007 19:33:52

Why don't you just smoke poles like Veek and I? roll

Kidd

15-01-2007 19:35:56

[quote7aa2386c92="zdub08"][quote7aa2386c92="Kidd"]i mean dude everyone is gonna die why not spend it smoking those amazingly rolled cigars[/quote7aa2386c92]
because you'll leave your son/daughter/cousin/niece/nephew/family member you are close to, dolynea, behind.. and all he will do is cry on message boards[/quote7aa2386c92]

but what if you die early from an accident or what not.

not everyone is gonna lie till 100.

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 19:35:57

Guys, Really look into ordering some Padron 2000M or 3000M's (M = Maduro Wrap). They are excellant cigars and will run you around 3.30-$4 a pop. Very very smooth and enjoyable cigar!

Another favorite of mine are some CAO Golds or Fuentes

doylnea

15-01-2007 19:36:49

[quote33ec7b7420="zdub08"][quote33ec7b7420="Kidd"]i mean dude everyone is gonna die why not spend it smoking those amazingly rolled cigars[/quote33ec7b7420]
because you'll leave your son/daughter/cousin/niece/nephew/family member you are close to, dolynea, behind.. and all he will do is cry on message boards[/quote33ec7b7420]

GFY

zdub08

15-01-2007 19:37:51

[quote27ebe1e28d="doylnea"][quote27ebe1e28d="zdub08"][quote27ebe1e28d="Kidd"]i mean dude everyone is gonna die why not spend it smoking those amazingly rolled cigars[/quote27ebe1e28d]
because you'll leave your son/daughter/cousin/niece/nephew/family member you are close to, dolynea, behind.. and all he will do is cry on message boards[/quote27ebe1e28d]

GFY[/quote27ebe1e28d]
same

theysayjump

15-01-2007 19:38:03

[quotedbb5d45b37="zdub08"][quotedbb5d45b37="Kidd"]i mean dude everyone is gonna die why not spend it smoking those amazingly rolled cigars[/quotedbb5d45b37]
because you'll leave your son/daughter/cousin/niece/nephew/family member you are close to, dolynea, behind.. and all he will do is cry on message boards[/quotedbb5d45b37]

Dude, you can say what you like as long as it's civil, and if you can't handle a Mod on a forum calling you "Ignorant" then maybe you shouldn't bother with it, but there's a difference between someone calling you ignorarnt, and you being a dick.

Debate by all means, but at least try to keep it civil.

For the record, my entire family smoke, cigarettes, cigars, hash, weed, pot, dope......if you can light it and inhale it, they'll smoke it. They're big smokers as well, and growing up I couldn't stand it. I spent so much time away from my family because they'd smoke so much, so just because you enjoy smoking, doesn't mean that it can't harm others. I swear I have some kind of respiratory problem because of this and it's not fun.

Kidd

15-01-2007 19:39:01

[quote577c7cb537="ffactoryxx"]Guys, Really look into ordering some Padron 2000M or 3000M's (M = Maduro Wrap). They are excellant cigars and will run you around 3.30-$4 a pop. Very very smooth and enjoyable cigar!


Another favorite of mine are some CAO Golds or Fuentes[/quote577c7cb537]


where do you order from online.

my local smoke shop has been limited as of late.

and with the soon increase on tobacco tax its gettin expensive.

7 bucks a pack 9 bux in the city

fuck that twisted

theysayjump

15-01-2007 19:39:28

Ok, I don't care who they are, but doylnea crossed the line there, as did zdub with his reply, so both are temp-banned.

Anyone who thinks we're unfair as Mods/Admins can't say shit now.

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 19:42:28

[quotef016d3ec99="Kidd"][quotef016d3ec99="ffactoryxx"]Guys, Really look into ordering some Padron 2000M or 3000M's (M = Maduro Wrap). They are excellant cigars and will run you around 3.30-$4 a pop. Very very smooth and enjoyable cigar!


Another favorite of mine are some CAO Golds or Fuentes[/quotef016d3ec99]


where do you order from online.

my local smoke shop has been limited as of late.

and with the soon increase on tobacco tax its gettin expensive.

7 bucks a pack 9 bux in the city

fuck that twisted[/quotef016d3ec99]

http//www.jrcigar.com has some really good deals usually. Check out there samplers and 5 packs.

http//www.cigarsinternational.com is really good too and have a huge selection!

http//www.holts.com is good as well

Kidd

15-01-2007 19:45:35

how fast is their shipping.

do they come well packed.

do they ship to ny?

do you need a signature ( usually not home when ups delivers)

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 20:04:17

They ship extremely fast!!

They were packed extremely well and all singles i ordered came in those disposible zip bags that keep moisture inside.

Lastly, yes they ship to NY

Kidd

15-01-2007 20:12:09

factory do you have a humidor?

ffactoryxx

15-01-2007 21:39:54

Yes i do and they can be picked up cheap on ebay or in stores or online. You should check outthe automatic ones as well.

A ziplock bag works just as well for short periods of time. Just put some cigars in there, roll up a paper towel and dowse it with water and ring it out. Make sure the towel is pretty much barely wet after the ring and toss that in as well. Will keep everything moist

Veek

15-01-2007 21:48:06

[quote458f5532fb="theysayjump"]Why don't you just smoke poles like Veek and I? roll[/quote458f5532fb]


lol lol lol lol

h3x

15-01-2007 22:41:09

[quote76d626d2eb="Kidd"]not to say i dont dip into the weed every once in a while but isnt weed just as bad as tobacco with an added bonus ( decent high)


The Impact on the Body

Chronic marijuana smokers are prey to chest colds, bronchitis, emphysema, and bronchial asthma. Persistent use will damage lungs and airways and raise the risk of cancer. There is just as much exposure to cancer-causing chemicals from smoking one marijuana joint as smoking five tobacco cigarettes. And there is evidence that marijuana may limit the ability of the immune system to fight infection and disease.

Marijuana also affects hormones. Regular use can delay the onset of puberty in young men and reduce sperm production. For women, regular use may disrupt normal monthly menstrual cycles and inhibit ovulation. When pregnant women use marijuana, they run the risk of having smaller babies with lower birth weights, who are more likely than other babies to develop health problems. Some studies have also found indications of developmental delays in children exposed to marijuana before birth.[/quote76d626d2eb]

Smoking marijuana is not safe, period. Any kind of smoke is a carcinogen and isn't good for your lungs.

However, marijuana itself is harmless for [u76d626d2eb]adults[/u76d626d2eb] [b76d626d2eb]only if it's consumed using an alternative method (such as vaporization or food), and it's being used in moderation[/b76d626d2eb].

[quote76d626d2eb="h3x"]Our brains have cannabinoid receptors (our body produces endocannabinoids which is a chemical in the nervous system. Other animals such as primates and canines also produce this chemical in the body).

So, we naturally create our own cannabinoids. But there's another source of cannabinoids outside our body..... That's right. Marijuana (cannabis).

When you consume marijuana, the psychoactive component, THC (or tetrahydrocannibinol) is released into the body and what part of the brain absorbs this chemical? The cannabinoid receptors. The very same receptors we have in our brain for the purpose of attaching onto the endocannabinoids that our body naturally produces.

Now THC isn't identical to the endocannabinoids we produce in our bodies, but it is still a cannabinoid. As a result, when the THC attaches to the cannabinoid receptors in your brain, you become relaxed (high). Since THC is a cannabinoid, it does not damage your brain (as your cannabinoid receptors were made to attach to any form of cannabinoid.).

In fact, THC is a neuroprotective cannabinoid. That means it actually protects neurons from destruction or degradation.

Now, just because it's safe for use in adults, doesn't mean the same holds true for children and teenagers. The brain is still developing at this point and introducing THC can have some negative effects on children/teens... namely depression and lack of motivation.[/quote76d626d2eb]

I have a video that will show you how to make marijuana butter/oil/flour and dinner/dessert courses... PM me if interested (18+)

To get back on topic... I don't really smoke cigars. I always smoke Cubans whenever I go to Canada. I enjoy it's taste and aroma but I consider myself more of a Cannabis aficionado than a Cigar aficionado.