A General Music Question
gman225
24-01-2005 22:03:04
I am a fan of music from bands such as Yellowcard and Hoobastank. Anyone have any suggestions of bands with a similar style of music that I might not have heard of?
adenosine
24-01-2005 22:04:59
"I like shitty popular music, what other bands will I like"
How about, whatever Clear Channel decides to play on the radio?
Why don't you try listening to all types of music?
gman225
24-01-2005 22:06:48
Yea well, that's just what I listen to...Not necessarily their hits though (I didn't like "The Reason" when it was big). Try "Rough Draft" by Yellowcard. I like that one. And what's Clear Channel?
adenosine
24-01-2005 22:12:13
[quote2c2a7234ad="gman225"]Yea well, that's just what I listen to...Not necessarily their hits though (I didn't like "The Reason" when it was big). Try "Rough Draft" by Yellowcard. I like that one. And what's Clear Channel?[/quote2c2a7234ad]
Do a Google search. Chances are nearly every radio station in your city is owned by this company.
Research into the radio industry and 'independant promoters'. You'll find that what's on the radio is.. well... marketed to consumerism and fueled by $ only. You'll probably never hear anything great and inovative on it.
SoBeIcedT
24-01-2005 22:39:21
try http//www.audioscrobbler.com
create an account. download the itunes plugin... or whatever music player you use... it tracks what music you play and it matches you up with music that other people that have similar listening patterns listen to that you do not listen to.
you can see what I have listened to by going to
http//www.audioscrobbler.com/user/SoBeIcedT
rae3rae
25-01-2005 07:26:59
Are you a big Incubus fan? Or how about Linkin Park... both are great... Maroon 5 is a lot fun.....Check out Flickerstick.. they are rock/punky... they won a show back on VH1 called Bands on The Run...
phorty
25-01-2005 08:35:37
any band that allows [ba709c89e26]KIDS BOP[/ba709c89e26] or whatever the fuck their called to cover their songs should be considered terrorists and dealt with accordingly.. twisted
...yellowcard? hoobastank?...ughli...were gonna need a whole new set of terror alert colors for this one...
jadem
25-01-2005 08:56:23
[quote044640f332="phorty"]any band that allows [b044640f332]KIDS BOP[/b044640f332] or whatever the fuck their called to cover their songs should be considered terrorists and dealt with accordingly.. twisted
...yellowcard? hoobastank?...ughli...were gonna need a whole new set of terror alert colors for this one...[/quote044640f332]
Opinions are like assholes...the world is full of them and they all stink.
FreeOffersNow
25-01-2005 08:59:49
Duh...hanson?
btw I'm a huge everquest fan....no pun intended (Maddox)
;)
undertheradar
25-01-2005 09:00:49
I hate music elitist with a passion. (
I have a seriously eclectic taste in music I am 30, was raised on 70's punk and progressive music, a large dash of traditional country, and some new wave by my dad who has excellent taste in music. I enjoy a little pop punk as much as the next guy, and Yellowcard has a couple songs that are amazing Life of a Salesman and Believe.
I can suggest a few of my favorite bands lately
Brand New-DeJa Entendu
Bayside-Sirens and Condolences
Bright Eyes-I'm Wide Awake It's Morning
Johnny Cash-Live at San Quentin
Soooo many more, but the list would be about 500 long.
phorty
25-01-2005 09:02:00
oh come ON!!
any band that had any respect for itself or the music that it didn't write wouldn't have prostituted their previously manufactured "art" like that...but than again with names like yellowcard and hoobastank...their really isn't much incentive to dig any deeper into this, their all just shitty punk/pop-rock wannabes riding this newfound wave to capitalistic fame...and to support them in ANY way is to condone the degeneration of MUSIC as we know it!!!
aghh! the stupidity!!!
jadem
25-01-2005 09:07:45
[quotee01d6be6de="phorty"]oh come ON!!
any band that had any respect for itself or the music that it didn't write wouldn't have prostituted their previously manufactured "art" like that...but than again with names like yellowcard and hoobastank...their really isn't much incentive to dig any deeper into this, their all just shitty punk/pop-rock wannabes riding this newfound wave to capitalistic fame...and to support them in ANY way is to condone the degeneration of MUSIC as we know it!!!
aghh! the stupidity!!![/quotee01d6be6de]
Stupidity? Man, I wish I was in their shoes! Screw the free stuff! I could buy everything I could ever want. Pay off student loans, buy a new car, buy a house! The possibilities are ENDLESS!
Shoot, I wish I could ride "this newfound wave to capitalistic fame." wink
FreeOffersNow
25-01-2005 09:10:46
I might agree with you about Hoobastank...but Yellowcard...if you haven't noticed, is an entirely new style of music. Hardcore violin? I thought that was great...but then again I may be partial because my girlfriend played the viola in high school. ?
phorty
25-01-2005 09:15:14
hey...violins in rock...awesome concept...but in no way a new frontier in these times...maybe i just expect too much from the audience today....but than again i am speaking of the same public that made RAPPERS more paid than some of the most respected doctors/lawyers in the world...sure,its all good now, but just wait till diddy starts runnin for president.... evil
adenosine
25-01-2005 09:18:13
I'm glad somebody else besides me is outraged over the music you hear on the radio, phorty.
Speaking of the viola, it sucks to like it. Really, there hasn't been too much music that really features it and takes advantage of its deeper, richer tone instead of treating it like a violin that's lower. I suggest listening to the Telemann Viola Concertos. They are some kick-ass shit.
Of course, what can I say against cheesy music. I listen to hardcore for god's sakes.... and hardcore has now become sped up epic trance... ... it's said. Maybe one day the breakbeat masters will make a triumphant return.
jadem
25-01-2005 09:20:28
[quoteba97df5f8e="adenosine"]I'm glad somebody else besides me is outraged over the music you hear on the radio, phorty.
Speaking of the viola, it sucks to like it. Really, there hasn't been too much music that really features it and takes advantage of its deeper, richer tone instead of treating it like a violin that's lower. I suggest listening to the Telemann Viola Concertos. They are some kick-ass shit.
Of course, what can I say against cheesy music. I listen to hardcore for god's sakes.... and hardcore has now become sped up epic trance... ... it's said. Maybe one day the breakbeat masters will make a triumphant return.[/quoteba97df5f8e]
My boyfriend and I have completely different music tastes until it comes to classic rock...THAT we can agree on.
I listen to about everything, but classic rock is probably my favorite. However, I like the older Johnny Lang style, and some of his new stuff (not all of it, it sounds too John Mayer for me).
The boyfriend's favorite band is In Flames and half the music he listens to, I can't pronounce. Well, except Opeth, but that's easy. D
adenosine
25-01-2005 09:24:03
Lol, music made with real humans sucks.
Synths and samples make the best tunes.
jadem
25-01-2005 09:27:02
[quote223d6213cf="adenosine"]Lol, music made with real humans sucks.
Synths and samples make the best tunes.[/quote223d6213cf]
Wake up and smell the bean burritos because half the pop stars vocals are made with synths and samples, but they make the best tunes? BAH!
I'll stick with REAL talent anyday, BOYS.
adenosine
25-01-2005 09:36:28
It takes talent to make a good hardcore or DnB track. Hell, I've tried to do it before and failed miserably. It's not easy taking a sample of a drums from some song and editing them into a completely different pattern.
I don't think that people who make electronic are any better or worse than people who make 'normal' music. It's just a different skill set. There are hacks in both of those groups, it's not like I'm saying all regular musicians are crap.
It's that I prefer my electronic tunes.
DisastirousMurmur
25-01-2005 09:36:58
[quote2f8f463425="adenosine"]"I like shitty popular music, what other bands will I like"
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yes, thats exactly what he ment to say, punk is the lamest music EVER...
jadem
25-01-2005 09:38:06
[quote44ee5d1fd5="adenosine"]It takes talent to make a good hardcore or DnB track. Hell, I've tried to do it before and failed miserably. It's not easy taking a sample of a drums from some song and editing them into a completely different pattern.
I don't think that people who make electronic are any better or worse than people who make 'normal' music. It's just a different skill set. There are hacks in both of those groups, it's not like I'm saying all regular musicians are crap.
It's that I prefer my electronic tunes.[/quote44ee5d1fd5]
Chill. The words "wake up and smell the bean burritos" was supposed to elicite a "light, carefree" tone to the entire post.
I think I've lost my touch.
adenosine
25-01-2005 09:44:51
[quote63c608d3b9="jadem"][quote63c608d3b9="adenosine"]It takes talent to make a good hardcore or DnB track. Hell, I've tried to do it before and failed miserably. It's not easy taking a sample of a drums from some song and editing them into a completely different pattern.
I don't think that people who make electronic are any better or worse than people who make 'normal' music. It's just a different skill set. There are hacks in both of those groups, it's not like I'm saying all regular musicians are crap.
It's that I prefer my electronic tunes.[/quote63c608d3b9]
Chill. The words "wake up and smell the bean burritos" was supposed to elicite a "light, carefree" tone to the entire post.
I think I've lost my touch.[/quote63c608d3b9]
Never misunderestimate the power of people at work with a hangover.
I blame these irate posts on Admiral Nelson.
undertheradar
25-01-2005 09:47:21
Note to self Freeipodguide is NOT the place to go looking for decent music suggestions.
Drum and bass, are you serious? I'd rather listen to Justin Timberlake than that crap. D
adenosine
25-01-2005 09:53:21
[quote338a9c0f5a="undertheradar"]Note to self Freeipodguide is NOT the place to go looking for decent music suggestions.
Drum and bass, are you serious? I'd rather listen to Justin Timberlake than that crap. D[/quote338a9c0f5a]
Dude, what's wrong with Drum and Bass?
undertheradar
25-01-2005 10:01:39
Nothing is wrong with it, but to say it's better than somebody writing their own lyrics, writting the music, and then playing their own instruments is a joke!
No biggie man...like what you want, music can heal the world....even techno. D
jadem
25-01-2005 10:01:58
[quotef2b3391b63="adenosine"][quotef2b3391b63="jadem"][quotef2b3391b63="adenosine"]It takes talent to make a good hardcore or DnB track. Hell, I've tried to do it before and failed miserably. It's not easy taking a sample of a drums from some song and editing them into a completely different pattern.
I don't think that people who make electronic are any better or worse than people who make 'normal' music. It's just a different skill set. There are hacks in both of those groups, it's not like I'm saying all regular musicians are crap.
It's that I prefer my electronic tunes.[/quotef2b3391b63]
Chill. The words "wake up and smell the bean burritos" was supposed to elicite a "light, carefree" tone to the entire post.
I think I've lost my touch.[/quotef2b3391b63]
HAHAHAHAHA! That sucks. I once worked a 13 hour shift straight, with my first ever hangover. The guy I was dating at the time was too drunk to stop his friends from getting me to drink more. Yeah, there's a reason I'm not dating him anymore!
Never misunderestimate the power of people at work with a hangover.
I blame these irate posts on Admiral Nelson.[/quotef2b3391b63]
adenosine
25-01-2005 10:10:47
[quotef3f6a72888="undertheradar"]Nothing is wrong with it, but to say it's better than somebody writing their own lyrics, writting the music, and then playing their own instruments is a joke!
No biggie man...like what you want, music can heal the world....even techno. D[/quotef3f6a72888]
So, sampling your own samples, and editing them and adding synths to make something sound good is less hard? I think not. Have you ever tried to produce a DnB track? It's hard.
Just because they programmed a synth instead of playing an instrument doesn't mean it was any easier.
phorty
25-01-2005 10:11:11
as far as d&b go...are we talking techno? house? industrial? cyber? ambiance? metropolitan industrial?
because some of them DEFINITELY take talent to do&make , and than again just with any other type/genre of music there' are the exceptions cry
adenosine
25-01-2005 10:13:50
[quote120bc684cd="phorty"]as far as d&b go...are we talking techno? house? industrial? cyber? ambiance? metropolitan industrial?
because some of them DEFINITELY take talent to do&make , and than again just with any other type/genre of music there' are the exceptions cry[/quote120bc684cd]
No, we are talking Drum and Bass. The genre unto it's own, desended from oldschool hardcore.
undertheradar
25-01-2005 10:26:02
I agree that making music of any kind takes talent....but IMO, learning to play and instrument, write music, write intriguing lyrics, and then do ita ll at once takes a hell of a lot more skill and ability than remixing samples and beats. If you need an example, listen to any of Connor Obersts (from Bright Eyes) music. Nothing come close to the talent that kid has, and the music has more emotion and heart in it than ANY digital based music.
Again...it's just my opinion though. )
adenosine
25-01-2005 10:31:05
[quote85b918c155="undertheradar"]I agree that making music of any kind takes talent....but IMO, learning to play and instrument, write music, write intriguing lyrics, and then do ita ll at once takes a hell of a lot more skill and ability than remixing samples and beats. If you need an example, listen to any of Connor Obersts (from Bright Eyes) music. Nothing come close to the talent that kid has, and the music has more emotion and heart in it than ANY digital based music.
Again...it's just my opinion though. )[/quote85b918c155]
I don't see why you think that people who make electronic aren't 'writing music'. I mean, look at Squarepusher! He isn't exactly stealing other people's tunes. Lyrics do not good music make. Look at classical! It's overflowing with soundscapes yet lots of it don't involve any vocal sections.
I think all you've heard is the crossover hits from electronic. That's like taking the top 40 rap songs and saying all hip hop sucks because all those suck. It's just not representative of the good things in the genre.
Try listening to say, Squarepusher - Tundra, and tell me you can't feel the emotion that was in it.
phorty
25-01-2005 10:31:47
[quote8cef864b14="undertheradar"]I agree that making music of any kind takes talent....but IMO, learning to play and instrument, write music, write intriguing lyrics, and then do ita ll at once takes a hell of a lot more skill and ability than remixing samples and beats. If you need an example, listen to any of Connor Obersts (from Bright Eyes) music. Nothing come close to the talent that kid has, and the music has more emotion and heart in it than ANY digital based music.
Again...it's just my opinion though. [/quote8cef864b14]
Yeah.. about Bright Eyes, there was a little tid bit about them in Esquire magazine (which i regularly read), some appraising article comparing him to bob Dylan, so of course, i had to check em' out.
Eh, hes no bob Dylan, he is impressive though-talent wise and musically, as for the lyrics though, i think everyones reading too much into them...but than again this coming from a Tool fan who's favorite album was Lateralus....i probably shouldn't talk.
But while were On his off beat topic....what music do you guys listen to while having sex? if any at all?
oh and i meant sex, not love. )
adenosine
25-01-2005 10:33:06
What do you think porno house was made for?????
undertheradar
25-01-2005 10:37:27
Again...there are exceptions. ) If they are in fact "writing" their music, then they get my respect. But when all you are doing is ripping off other peoples sounds to call your own...well, you know my stance.
Oh, and I know the genre quite well. I had an exwife that was heavily into that scene....much to my dismay. )
adenosine
25-01-2005 10:39:22
[quote748011c16a="undertheradar"]Again...there are exceptions. ) If they are in fact "writing" their music, then they get my respect. But when all you are doing is ripping off other peoples sounds to call your own...well, you know my stance.
Oh, and I know the genre quite well. I had an exwife that was heavily into that scene....much to my dismay. )[/quote748011c16a]
Lol, we talking the 'Big up your chest selectah' junglist type?
The music is great, but I think the scene could use an attitude adjustment.
undertheradar
25-01-2005 10:40:29
[quote55d0367ef1="phorty"]
Yeah.. about Bright Eyes, there was a little tid bit about them in Esquire magazine (which i regularly read), some appraising article comparing him to bob Dylan, so of course, i had to check em' out.
Eh, hes no bob Dylan, he is impressive though-talent wise and musically, as for the lyrics though, i think everyones reading too much into them...but than again this coming from a Tool fan who's favorite album was Lateralus....i probably shouldn't talk.
[/quote55d0367ef1]
Keep in mind that most of his "deeper" lyrics were written when he was 14/15 years old. The guy is a phenom! His new album I'm wide awake, It's morning, hasn't left my cd player for two months. Excellent stuff.
phorty
25-01-2005 10:40:52
well yeah... all music has emotion behind it- thats what makes it music and also what makes a particular genre called emo so retarded wink , but anyways
as far as vocals/lyrics go ...in the genesis of music, there was none and people still laughed,wept, and danced all the same.
if anything lyrics desensitize music, they only constrain and limit the music itself.
i mean, honestly, most music nowadays is used to backup the vocals and in reality it should be the other way around. as far as comparing the emotions
behind square-pusher to bright eyes, its like apples to oranges.
but that shouldn't diminish either of them.
adenosine
25-01-2005 10:47:54
[quoteaa95d5b3a1="phorty"]
i mean, honestly, most music nowadays is used to backup the vocals and in reality it should be the other way around.
[/quoteaa95d5b3a1]
Not always. Hip-hop is all about the lyrical madness. I've head some great MCs before who were master wordsmiths and I can have nothing but respect for them.
undertheradar
25-01-2005 11:18:42
[quote4a8f48c5ba="adenosine"][quote4a8f48c5ba="phorty"]
i mean, honestly, most music nowadays is used to backup the vocals and in reality it should be the other way around.
[/quote4a8f48c5ba]
Not always. Hip-hop is all about the lyrical madness. I've head some great MCs before who were master wordsmiths and I can have nothing but respect for them.[/quote4a8f48c5ba]
Del is the first that comes to mind for me. )
adenosine
25-01-2005 11:20:32
Yeah, him and Automator tore things up in Deltron 3030.
Chesyl
25-01-2005 14:53:06
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SoBeIcedT
25-01-2005 15:55:01
Clapton is the man, Also I'm a big fan of The Beatles. For some reasoon in my mind Apple (computers), Beatles (VW), and The Beatles (music) all go in the same category.