Harry Potter Book 7 - NAMED!

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JayxDirect

21-12-2006 13:31:04

The 7th book in the Harry Potter series will be named

Harry Potter and the
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[spoiler98e9b71d22]Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows[/spoiler98e9b71d22]

Wolfeman

21-12-2006 13:47:35

[spoilerce42a8ffd7]Snape kills Dumbledore...[/spoilerce42a8ffd7]

tylerc

21-12-2006 13:49:31

You got a link or something to back this up?

JayxDirect

21-12-2006 13:50:37

[quotefb045a6b41="Wolfeman"][spoilerfb045a6b41]Snape kills Dumbledore...[/spoilerfb045a6b41][/quotefb045a6b41]

shock OMG no way! How could you ruin it! cry cry cry



lol

JayxDirect

21-12-2006 13:51:52

[quote4ef44139b6="tylerc"]You got a link or something to back this up?[/quote4ef44139b6]

Jkrowling.com, mugglenet.com, pretty much every single news site, etc.
Yahoo News has it posted front page right now too I think.

Also, after the flash thing ends, http//www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/

YourGiftsFree

21-12-2006 14:08:45

I. Am. Pumped!

Berky34

21-12-2006 14:12:58

Yeah I saw them announce the new name on the news today. I gave up reading Harry Potter halfway through the order of the phoenix. It just didn't do it for me anymore. shrug

johnjimjones

21-12-2006 14:45:00

I saw it on CNN. I gave up following the books after the fourth one.

JPeeper

21-12-2006 15:20:33

Nice, I will see the movie in like 6 years. D

Books seamed to nerdy to me, I just watch the movies.

tylerc

21-12-2006 15:41:21

So what if they seem nerdy? You could probably learn a thing or two from them, like maybe how to spell "seem" correctly.

JUNIOR6886

21-12-2006 15:52:13

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EatChex89

21-12-2006 16:36:43

excellent.

what a great name!

BlueFusionX

21-12-2006 16:39:19

[quoteef91c3abd8="johnjimjones"]I saw it on CNN. I gave up following the books after the fourth one.[/quoteef91c3abd8]
Me too. The rests were crap and I lost interest.

OldManWrigley

21-12-2006 16:58:03

[quoteba1eaab4d6="BlueFusionX"][quoteba1eaab4d6="johnjimjones"]I saw it on CNN. I gave up following the books after the fourth one.[/quoteba1eaab4d6]
Me too. The rests were crap and I lost interest.[/quoteba1eaab4d6]

Maybe if you read them, you'd learn some grammer and how to form a sentance?


LOL sorry, I had to. How do you know the rest were crap if you gave up after the 4th?


Remember...ugh the foreign guy on here and his custom title was like "my english pwns yours" or something.....damnit I can't think of his name.....



As for the book!!!! (on topic now..) I can't wait! Sounds kind of like a stupid name, but it's just sad it's the last book, I hope it's really, really long.

BlueFusionX

21-12-2006 17:00:20

I typed rests, saw it, and got too lazy to change it. Yet I am not too lazy to push a quick reply button. That is funny lol.

I read half and was like "this is some shit"

I would like to see a source for the book.

tylerc

21-12-2006 17:02:44

http//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061221/ap_on_en_ot/books_potter_title

JordanE

21-12-2006 17:31:35

What the fuck is Harry Potter?

Gigante

21-12-2006 17:38:22

I think it is a gardening show on tv. I seen that shit today.

irannaked

21-12-2006 19:06:43

are you serious?


more harry potter books?

god damn, just end it allready.

after the 4'th one it became WAY too much.


p.s. how old is harry now? 45? wow

JayxDirect

21-12-2006 19:45:32

[quote5a67338ab4="irannaked"]are you serious?


more harry potter books?

god damn, just end it allready.

after the 4'th one it became WAY too much.


p.s. how old is harry now? 45? wow[/quote5a67338ab4]



Ehh...the thing you must not understand is that the author doesn't just say "these books are making me filthy rich, I think I'll make another".

She said from the beginning there would be 7 books. She isn't just going to leave the story unfinished at the 4th book. (Wow what an ending that would have been, Voldemort returns - Harry narrowly escapes from the graveyard - the end)

Harry will be 17 in book 7.

tylerc

21-12-2006 19:49:27

It was stated in the 1st book that there are 7 years at Hogwarts. Why would she stop after any year but the 7th?

unknown uchiha

21-12-2006 19:53:32

Because the castle might have blown up, Pirates and/or Ninjas might have invaded the book and renamed it "Harry Potter and the Lost Booty/Hidden Scroll", or she might have been tired of being famous and pulled a Dave Chappelle?

Dr. Doom

21-12-2006 20:00:33

The fourth book is the best in the series (and I've read them all).

Whenever I run into someone who's too lazy to read the series, I tell them to watch the first 3 movies and then read the 4th book because it MUST be [i80e436faae]savored[/i80e436faae].

(Of course, I haven't watched the 2nd and 3rd movies, but I'm assuming they're close enough to the books....)

JayxDirect

21-12-2006 20:03:35

The 1st and 2nd movies stay truest to the books.
It could be that their shorter though.

theysayjump

21-12-2006 22:40:27

Everyone likes book 4 the best?

I think the OOTP was the best.

Also, since the very start, there's been something going on with Snape that I just don't know, seems weird. I don't think he's bad but only trying to give that impression, I think him and Dumbledore have everything under control. Remember, he's probably the best of the best (besides maybe Dumbledore and Voldemort) at lying or keeping secrets.

drummer_kew_03

21-12-2006 23:14:39

[quote1d897d421f="OldManWrigley"]
Maybe if you read them, you'd learn some grammer and how to form a sentance?
[/quote1d897d421f]

You mean [b1d897d421f]sentence[/b1d897d421f]?


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Dumbledore isn't dead. Snape just pretended to kill him. There's signs throughout all the books.
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CustomOrderThis

21-12-2006 23:19:46

[quotefb89d39642="OldManWrigley"][quotefb89d39642="BlueFusionX"][quotefb89d39642="johnjimjones"]I saw it on CNN. I gave up following the books after the fourth one.[/quotefb89d39642]
Me too. The rests were crap and I lost interest.[/quotefb89d39642]

Maybe if you read them, you'd learn some [bfb89d39642]grammer[/bfb89d39642] and how to form a sentance?


LOL sorry, I had to. How do you know the rest were crap if you gave up after the 4th?


Remember...ugh the foreign guy on here and his custom title was like "my english pwns yours" or something.....damnit I can't think of his name.....



As for the book!!!! (on topic now..) I can't wait! Sounds kind of like a stupid name, but it's just sad it's the last book, I hope it's really, really long.[/quotefb89d39642]

Ahh, the irony. P
Just playing around. oops

Dr. Doom

21-12-2006 23:38:15

[quote72ff1f5880="theysayjump"]Everyone likes book 4 the best?

I think the OOTP was the best.[/quote72ff1f5880]

Book 4 is the turning point, where the series suddenly shifts from whimsical and adventurous to dark and foreboding. In other words, serious shit happens. Perhaps it's just that "Empire Strikes Back" vibe you get at the end because evil seems to have won that time.

[quote72ff1f5880]Also, since the very start, there's been something going on with Snape that I just don't know, seems weird. I don't think he's bad but only trying to give that impression, I think him and Dumbledore have everything under control. Remember, he's probably the best of the best (besides maybe Dumbledore and Voldemort) at lying or keeping secrets.[/quote72ff1f5880]

I was feeling that too. My take on it is that Dumbledore, in his supreme craftiness, decided to take advantage of Snape after Voldemort's original defeat. I think he concocted a plan that would force Snape to go into deep cover for the good side, with the cover story that he was in fact doing deep cover for Voldemort (which is basically what Snape told Voldemort in Half-Blood Prince, if I remember correctly). Dumbledore knew that Voldemort was too smart to fall for that kind of thing, despite Snape's mastery of that mind-blocking technique (forgot the name), so he sacrificed himself to give Snape the oppurtunity to go into deep cover. Yes, that's right, I believe Dumbledore is really dead and that he allowed Snape to kill him so that he could get in good with Voldemort (and then turn on him at some point). Alternately, it could just be that the oath that Snape made created an impossible situation, so Dumbledore allowed Snape to kill him, realizing it would help the deep cover thing. I could be totally wrong, but I don't think so.

[quote72ff1f5880="drummer_kew_03"]
[spoiler72ff1f5880]
Dumbledore isn't dead. Snape just pretended to kill him. There's signs throughout all the books.
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Can you elaborate on this? This is the first time I've heard anything about it.

YourGiftsFree

22-12-2006 05:39:14

This is about the 6th book too.

[spoiler85230506b3] I kind of agree with drummmer_kew03. I don't think dumbledore is dead. Although I am not sure if snape is evil or not. Maybe dumbledore is an animagus of a phoenix? Their were many signs of that around the book. Lets say he is dead though. Their are paintings of him. He can be talked too. Also they said nothing about fawks whos been helping harry. Or maybe it wasn't fawks and it was dumbledore as an animagus?[/spoiler85230506b3]

Godrockdj

22-12-2006 06:27:47

Excited about the 7th book. It would have been good for her to release it on 7/7/07 but oh well.

[spoilerbb4e822582]Dumbledore is definitely dead, but that's not saying that we won't 'see' him in some way in the last book. The important thing is Snape killing him is /not/ what it seems - I believe Snape made a prior unbreakable vow to fulfill Dumbledore's order if he ever asked him to kill him - That's why Dumbledore was pleading with him at the end.[/spoilerbb4e822582]

drummer_kew_03

22-12-2006 08:07:34

You asked for it...

[spoilereb93e9ac99]
-Harry says, "He will only be gone from the school when none here are loyal to him." in at least two books. Its in the second movie too, so it seems of some importance.

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[beb93e9ac99]Dumbledore talking to Draco[/beb93e9ac99]

[ieb93e9ac99]"I can help you, Draco." "No, you can't," said Malfoy, his wand shaking very badly indeed. "Nobody can. He told me to do it or he'd kill me. I've got no choice." "He cannot kill you if you are already dead. Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine." (HBP pg 591/552)[/ieb93e9ac99]


If Draco can play dead, why can't Dumbledore?

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Just before Snape "killed" Dumbledore, Harry was frozen in place underneath the cloak. Dumbledore could have used another spell, but instead allowed it to happen and prevented Harry from interfering.

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[beb93e9ac99]Fawkes doesn't try to save Dumbledore[/beb93e9ac99]

We've seen Fawkes come in at the last moment and save Harry's life in Chamber of Secrets and he also saved Dumbledore in Order of the Phoenix. We know Fawkes was nearby the tower, as he shows up after Dumbledore's "death". So, why didn't Fawkes come to save Dumbledore this time?

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[beb93e9ac99]Was it really Avada Kedavra?[/beb93e9ac99]

Every other time we've seen the Avada Kedavra performed, the victim simply falls over dead. However, in Half-Blood Prince, when Snape curses Dumbledore with the same spell, Dumbledore violently flies up and away from the tower. Several times in the course of the Harry Potter books, J.K. has told us that the Avada Kedavra is not a curse you can make lightly. Snape could've said it and not meant it, which would not have much effect on Dumbledore. Or, remember all the importance this book gave to "nonverbal" spells? Perhaps Snape said Avada Kedavra, but the curse he was really thinking, the nonverbal one, was a different curse, one that only made it appear that Dumbledore was dead. The Expelliarmus spell launches can launch the victim back as Dumbledore was.

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[beb93e9ac99]Fawkes' Lament[/beb93e9ac99]

[ieb93e9ac99]Gulping, Madame Pomfrey pressed her fingers to her mouth, her eyes wide. Somewhere out in the darkness, a phoenix was singing in a way Harry had never heard before; a stricken lament of terrible beauty...Harry felt, as he had felt about the Phoenix song before, that the music was inside him, not without ... How long they stood there, listening, he did not know, nor why it seemed to ease their pain a little to listen... [/ieb93e9ac99]

The book talks for a long time about Faulks singing/crying. Remember that phoenix tears have powerful healing powers.

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The last time we really saw Dumbledore's body was when Harry is kneeling over it shortly after he has been killed by Snape the previous day. We never really see Dumbledore's body at the funeral. How do we know it was there at all?

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There are several references throughout the books about how the Phoenix uses fire as a rebirth. At the funeral Dumbledore's body ignites in flames.

[ieb93e9ac99]White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished.[/ieb93e9ac99]


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Dumbledore gave Snape the Defense against the Dark Arts position at the begining of the year knowing that the position was cursed and the teacher would never stay more that a year. He knew there would be a reason that Snape would not return the next year.

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If you believe that Snape is acting on Dumbledore's orders to kill him (or possibly just make it look like he killed him, although he'd probably still be hurting him), then Snape's demeanor and Dumbledore's final words take on a whole new meaning.

[ieb93e9ac99]...somebody else had spoken Snape's name, quite softly. "Severus..." The sound frightened Harry beyond anything he had experienced all evening. For the first time, Dumbledore was pleading. Snape said nothing, but walked forward and pushed Malfoy roughly out of the way. ... Snape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore, and there was revulsion and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his face. "Severus... Please..." (HBP pg 595/556)[/ieb93e9ac99]

In that passage the reader is supposed to believe that Snape hates Dumbledore and feels revulsion for him.

But to help us understand the real meaning of Snape's feelings of revulsion and hatred, J.K. used almost the exact same words for what Harry was feeling just one chapter previous

[beb93e9ac99]"You...you can't stop, Professor," said Harry. "You've got to keep drinking, remember? You told me you had to keep drinking. Here..." Hating himself, repulsed by what he was doing, Harry forced the goblet back toward Dumbledore's mouth ... [/beb93e9ac99]

Even though Snape was to kill Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, it must have been something that was still really emotional and difficult for Snape to do, exactly as it was for Harry to make Dumbledore drink the potion.

The feeling of revulsion on Snape's face was not for Dumbledore, but the act he knew he had to commit. The hatred was not for Dumbledore, but for what Dumbledore was making him do.

And when Dumbledore said, "Severus... Please..." he wasn't begging "please don't". What he was really saying was, "Severus, please kill me, as you promised you would."

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That's part of the list. For more info about it go to [spoilereb93e9ac99]www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com[]www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com[/spoilereb93e9ac99]

It looks kind of hard to read with the spoiler tags, but I don't want people complaining.

YourGiftsFree

22-12-2006 08:50:16

[spoilerfa8b71c7b2]I definatley believe Dumbledore is alive.[/spoilerfa8b71c7b2]

cwncool

22-12-2006 10:48:55

[quote50c87b3e4f="YourGiftsFree"][spoiler50c87b3e4f]I definatley believe Dumbledore is alive.[/spoiler50c87b3e4f][/quote50c87b3e4f]
Ya, this is my theory.
[spoiler50c87b3e4f]I'm almost positive Dumbledore wouldn't allow someone evil, Snape, to teach at the school. I think Snape is sort of "undercover" and "killed" Dumbledore to show his "loyalty" to Voldemort. This is so he can become closer to Voldemort, although he is really a good guy. Dumbledore though has only disappeared until Voldemort has been defeated. That's what I think.[/spoiler50c87b3e4f]

BlueX

22-12-2006 11:55:08

Snape = Goodli
Dumbledore = Not deadli
liopinions subject change

JayxDirect

22-12-2006 12:06:01

[quote09a7827ee5="YourGiftsFree"]This is about the 6th book too.

[spoiler09a7827ee5] I kind of agree with drummmer_kew03. I don't think dumbledore is dead. Although I am not sure if snape is evil or not. Maybe dumbledore is an animagus of a phoenix? Their were many signs of that around the book. Lets say he is dead though. Their are paintings of him. He can be talked too. Also they said nothing about fawks whos been helping harry. Or maybe it wasn't fawks and it was dumbledore as an animagus?[/spoiler09a7827ee5][/quote09a7827ee5]

Fawkes can't be Dumbledore.
Dumbledore can't be Fawkes.

In the second book I remember Dumbledore was petting and talking about Fawkes in his conversation to Harry.

The only explanation would be if Dumbledore can make twins of himself or something.

YourGiftsFree

22-12-2006 13:05:45

No, I wasnt saying Fawkes is dumbledore. I mean maybe dumbledore is an animagus of a phoneix.

drummer_kew_03

22-12-2006 16:51:23

That would be pretty cool. It would explain his obsession with phoenixes.

Psyc

22-12-2006 16:57:25

Dammit, now I have to go read the 6th one. lol