Pls Help me re-word this sentence, i'm stuck :(

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Dave82

12-12-2006 10:00:07

I know, i know..... i am the number one hater on this forum of "homework" help type threads. But in my defense i also do provide a lot of help to them.

I am honestly stuck on how to re-word this sentence.
I do NOT want the sentence to begin with a number

[quote38322cd195]
[b38322cd195]"[u38322cd195]10 of the dogs[/u38322cd195] were [u38322cd195]Golden Labradors[/u38322cd195] selected from the [u38322cd195]40 Labradors[/u38322cd195] in the previous group."[/b38322cd195]
[/quote38322cd195]

Obviously that is not the sentence i am using. I changed the words, but the concept remains the same.

I do NOT want it say
[b38322cd195]"Of the 40 Labradors, 10 of the dogs were Golden Labradors."[/b38322cd195]
(because i already over-killed that "Of" sentence structure in the previous paragraph)


If anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated.

johnjimjones

12-12-2006 10:03:38

Out of the 40 labradors in the previous group, 10 of them were golden labradors.

dmorris68

12-12-2006 10:04:51

Can you not spell the numbers, as you should do in formal writing anyway when the numbers are simple, i.e

"Ten of the dogs were Golden Labradors selected from the forty Labradors on the previous group."

But if not, here's what I got

"Golden Labradors comprised ten of the forty Labradors in the previous group."

"The previous group of forty Labradors included ten Golden Labradors."

Dave82

12-12-2006 10:08:33

[quote8f6ffa97d1="dmorris68"]Can you not spell the numbers, as you should do in formal writing anyway when the numbers are simple, i.e

"Ten of the dogs were Golden Labradors selected from the forty Labradors on the previous group."

But if not, here's what I got

"Golden Labradors comprised ten of the forty Labradors in the previous group."

"The previous group of forty Labradors included ten Golden Labradors."[/quote8f6ffa97d1]


No spelling of number, but your sentence was great.

THANKS JJJ AND DMORRIS!!!

+ Karma in that order

ajasax

12-12-2006 10:23:08

[quote2e6248e2e6="Dave82"]No spelling of number, but your sentence was great.[/quote2e6248e2e6]
Really?! My HS English teacher would have automatically dropped it a letter grade shock

Dave82

12-12-2006 10:34:28

[quote2afe3c27c1="ajasax"][quote2afe3c27c1="Dave82"]No spelling of number, but your sentence was great.[/quote2afe3c27c1]
Really?! My HS English teacher would have automatically dropped it a letter grade shock[/quote2afe3c27c1]

When writing papers for submission to journals, numbers are always wrote as opposed to spelling them out. There are so many numbers flying around with the endless amounts of data in the reseach that APA style has you write the number.

MLA is different though. It depends for what subject you are writing for. High school students dont often write reseach papers with data collected and analyzed so it doesnt matter for them.

zr2152

12-12-2006 11:06:58

[quote35565a6972="ajasax"][quote35565a6972="Dave82"]No spelling of number, but your sentence was great.[/quote35565a6972]
Really?! My HS English teacher would have automatically dropped it a letter grade shock[/quote35565a6972]

I was always told that if the number is 10 or greater then you are to not spell it out.

theysayjump

12-12-2006 11:15:38

There once was a bunch of dogs, maybe 40 or so. For some reason, 10 of the dogs were removed from the initial group, causing outrage and humiliation to spread amongst the dogs that weren't picked. So 1 day, 1 of the dogs decided to see what kind of dogs were picked and lo and behold, he saw that they were Golden Laboratories. He wondered why they were so special to be picked, what did they have that he didn't?

Well he set out on a quest across many great mountains, deep valleys with sprawling gorges, wild plains with howling winds, bottomless oceans with fatal currents, until, he found Greystache the wizard.

Greystache was a wise man, especially in the ways of why certain dogs were picked over others in meaningless competitions. Apparently, they were picked at random.

jadem

12-12-2006 11:23:18

Ten (or 10, depending on what your teacher wants) of the 40 labradors were Golden labradors.

doylnea

12-12-2006 11:54:08

[quotef00954674b="zr2152"][quotef00954674b="ajasax"][quotef00954674b="Dave82"]No spelling of number, but your sentence was great.[/quotef00954674b]
Really?! My HS English teacher would have automatically dropped it a letter grade shock[/quotef00954674b]

I was always told that if the number is 10 or greater then you are to not spell it out.[/quotef00954674b]

That is correct.

[quotef00954674b][bf00954674b]What is the rule for determining whether or not to write out a number as a word?[/bf00954674b]

In general, write out the first nine cardinal (1-9) numbers; use figures for 10 and above. Write out the first nine cardinal (1-9) numbers (except for address numbers 2-9, dates, decimals, game scores, highways, latitude/longitude, mathematical expressions, measurement/weight, money/financial data, percentages, proportion, scientific expressions, statistics, technical expressions, temperature, time, unit modifiers, votes, and numbers not written out in a proper noun) and any number that begins a sentence; use figures for 10 and above. The first nine ordinal (1st-9th) numbers are usually written out, especially when describing order in time or location.
http//dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/g57.html[/quotef00954674b]

Dave82

12-12-2006 12:03:18

[quote01126e6577="doylnea"][quote01126e6577="zr2152"]
I was always told that if the number is 10 or greater then you are to not spell it out.[/quote01126e6577]

That is correct.
[/quote01126e6577]


But if you are writing for a journal article it is different. Numbers are written not spelled (unless it is the first letter of a sentence, but that is frowned up in journal writing and the sentence is usually re-structured).


So follow doylnea advice for papers. [b01126e6577]But if you are writing journal articles[/b01126e6577], your article will basically go in the garbage if you spell out every number. Read an article with data collected. WAY to many numbers. It doesnt flow.

You have to know which style your are following to determine this (MLA or APA).


It depends on your major whether or not you will be doind research and writing these types of reviews.



http//apastyle.apa.org/
and
http//www.mla.org/style
are good links

UberVash

12-12-2006 13:13:16

"Vegata? How many Golden Retreivers were selected from the group?"

"OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!"
~~

But really..

The first subgroup contained 10 Golden Retrievers, who were selected out of the original Labrador group of 40.

JKirk

12-12-2006 15:27:02

[quote30f50c072f="theysayjump"]There once was a bunch of dogs, maybe 40 or so. For some reason, 10 of the dogs were removed from the initial group, causing outrage and humiliation to spread amongst the dogs that weren't picked. So 1 day, 1 of the dogs decided to see what kind of dogs were picked and lo and behold, he saw that they were Golden Laboratories. He wondered why they were so special to be picked, what did they have that he didn't?

Well he set out on a quest across many great mountains, deep valleys with sprawling gorges, wild plains with howling winds, bottomless oceans with fatal currents, until, he found Greystache the wizard.

Greystache was a wise man, especially in the ways of why certain dogs were picked over others in meaningless competitions. Apparently, they were picked at random.[/quote30f50c072f]

LOLOL!O!L!O!L!O!L!OL!!O!L!O!L

egyptianruin

13-12-2006 07:21:48

[quote3649c8b1f5="zr2152"]I was always told that if the number is 10 or greater then you are to not spell it out.[/quote3649c8b1f5]

same here, but in in different writing styles different rules apply.

egyptianruin

13-12-2006 07:23:45

[quote21e866b2ac="theysayjump"]There once was a bunch of dogs, maybe 40 or so. For some reason, 10 of the dogs were removed from the initial group, causing outrage and humiliation to spread amongst the dogs that weren't picked. So 1 day, 1 of the dogs decided to see what kind of dogs were picked and lo and behold, he saw that they were Golden Laboratories. He wondered why they were so special to be picked, what did they have that he didn't?

Well he set out on a quest across many great mountains, deep valleys with sprawling gorges, wild plains with howling winds, bottomless oceans with fatal currents, until, he found Greystache the wizard.

Greystache was a wise man, especially in the ways of why certain dogs were picked over others in meaningless competitions. Apparently, they were picked at random.[/quote21e866b2ac]

LMAO OMG that just made me laugh the hardest I have in 3 days.

CollidgeGraduit

13-12-2006 07:25:11

[quote152abb92bb="Dave82"][quote152abb92bb="doylnea"][quote152abb92bb="zr2152"]
I was always told that if the number is 10 or greater then you are to not spell it out.[/quote152abb92bb]

That is correct.
[/quote152abb92bb]


But if you are writing for a journal article it is different. Numbers are written not spelled (unless it is the first letter of a sentence, but that is frowned up in journal writing and the sentence is usually re-structured).


So follow doylnea advice for papers. [b152abb92bb]But if you are writing journal articles[/b152abb92bb], your article will basically go in the garbage if you spell out every number. Read an article with data collected. WAY to many numbers. It doesnt flow.

You have to know which style your are following to determine this (MLA or APA).


It depends on your major whether or not you will be doind research and writing these types of reviews.



http//apastyle.apa.org/
and
http//www.mla.org/style
are good links[/quote152abb92bb]

If you want to get technical, reword isn't hyphenated.

Dave82

13-12-2006 14:59:37

[quote7e2cfc4268="CollidgeGraduit"]
If you want to get technical, reword isn't hyphenated.[/quote7e2cfc4268]

roll

Haha, dont take it personally. This forum has a lot of people who are in college or going to college soon. That's why i made a deal about MLA and APA. I know you are Graduited and all, but some arent. So we still have to deal with papers and research and all that good stuff. )

TryinToGetPaid

13-12-2006 15:14:25

Graduatedli

J4320

13-12-2006 15:33:09

[quoted38a8312e0="TryinToGetPaid"]Graduatedli[/quoted38a8312e0]

I think he knows that; he's just playing off of CG's name. ;)