Improving Ratio on OiNK

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Psyc

24-10-2006 19:11:49

Ok, sorry for opening another thread on this subject, but the other ones were filled by people begging for invites (including me).

Those that have it, how do you keep up a good ratio? I've been trying to download small files and upload, but no one else is downloading! If there are people downloading, there's 300 more seeders so I only get to upload a few kb's.

I haven't bought a CD since I was in 7th grade, so most of the ones I do have are really old and they're already uploaded.

So, anyone have any ideas?

Daggoth

24-10-2006 19:16:22

This is what I did to get my ratio up. Organize the list of music by lowest number of seeders. Then, start downloading the torrent that has the most leechers and least seeders.

x323smostwantedx

24-10-2006 19:21:15

Yeah, I raised my ratio in a couple of days by just downloading a new torrent that has less seeders than leechers and I just left my computer on for a couple of days. I have a 1+ ratio

JKirk

24-10-2006 19:22:49

Eh, I just uploaded my CD's in FLAC format, have you checked for FLAC format for the CD's you have?

toiletpaper55

24-10-2006 19:23:14

i also need help, ive uploaded like 3 megs and dl almost a gig, trying to keep it low uptil i can raise it

when i seed the stuff i dl, no one dl's it-any advice?

GCY

24-10-2006 19:27:14

can I get a oink invite?

JKirk

24-10-2006 19:27:43

[quotef034730a59="toiletpaper55"]i also need help, ive uploaded like 3 megs and dl almost a gig, trying to keep it low uptil i can raise it

when i seed the stuff i dl, no one dl's it-any advice?[/quotef034730a59]

You've only uploaded 3 MB's? The best advice I can give you guys is either download albums that are pre-release or rip your music in FLAC format if there isn't a CD already there in that format.

Tsmith10803

24-10-2006 19:32:45

Yea um, if anyone wants to give an invite, PM me por favor.

toiletpaper55

24-10-2006 19:46:58

[quotec30bd0d9c3="JKirk"][quotec30bd0d9c3="toiletpaper55"]i also need help, ive uploaded like 3 megs and dl almost a gig, trying to keep it low uptil i can raise it

when i seed the stuff i dl, no one dl's it-any advice?[/quotec30bd0d9c3]

You've only uploaded 3 MB's? The best advice I can give you guys is either download albums that are pre-release or rip your music in FLAC format if there isn't a CD already there in that format.[/quotec30bd0d9c3]

sorry for being noob but whats FLAC and how will that help?

JKirk

24-10-2006 19:50:36

[quotedaae75eab9="toiletpaper55"][quotedaae75eab9="JKirk"][quotedaae75eab9="toiletpaper55"]i also need help, ive uploaded like 3 megs and dl almost a gig, trying to keep it low uptil i can raise it

when i seed the stuff i dl, no one dl's it-any advice?[/quotedaae75eab9]

You've only uploaded 3 MB's? The best advice I can give you guys is either download albums that are pre-release or rip your music in FLAC format if there isn't a CD already there in that format.[/quotedaae75eab9]

sorry for being noob but whats FLAC and how will that help?[/quotedaae75eab9]

It's for the audiofreaks really who demand the best quality format. Here's a useful link that may be able to explain it better

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC

Basically, it's like they have the CD but the difference in FLAC and the format you listen to probably isn't noticeable enough if you don't listen for it. You can rip a CD easy to .FLACurl==http://=http:///url using Easy CD-DA Extractor if you use Windows.

Psyc

24-10-2006 20:04:17

Well I don't think there'll be any audio freaks looking for 'N Sync, Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, and 98 Degrees. lol

tylerc

24-10-2006 20:05:37

[quote3680f05c08="Psyc"]I haven't bought a CD since I was in 7th grade, so most of the ones I do have are really old and they're already uploaded.[/quote3680f05c08]

You should be supporting the music industry somewhat and buying at least a few CDs. Or if you go to shows, that works too.

Psyc

24-10-2006 20:08:57

Yeah, I know. It makes me feel bad, but it's like a compulsive thing. I can't help it. shrug

Tsmith10803

24-10-2006 20:10:11

Yea, the way I let bands now I like em, is go to shows and buy their merchandise 8)

My way of balancing out from the downloading )

theysayjump

24-10-2006 20:12:35

Download the most popular torrents and just leave it seeding. Even if you don't like it.

Just leave your computer on all the time and have it seeding and you'll have a good ratio no problem.

tylerc

24-10-2006 20:21:34

[quote938499753f="Psyc"]Yeah, I know. It makes me feel bad, but it's like a compulsive thing. I can't help it. shrug[/quote938499753f]

Yes, you can help it. Stop downloading music unless you are going to support the industry in some way.

amir89630

24-10-2006 20:41:37

u know, ive noticed that when i upload music onto oink, I kinda feel guilty, like I'm betraying the artist or something.

BUT..... if that artist is dead, i notice that I don't feel bad.

theysayjump

24-10-2006 20:53:50

[quote8bd746c9d7="amir89630"]u know, ive noticed that when i upload music onto oink, I kinda feel guilty, like I'm betraying the artist or something.

BUT..... if that artist is dead, i notice that I don't feel bad.[/quote8bd746c9d7]

In other words you laugh and make fun of dead people?

Nie one, Amir. Nice one.

Dr. Doom

24-10-2006 21:09:34

I hate to be a derailer, but can I get an Oink invite? I'll be happy to trade for a Demonoid invite if someone needs it.

CollidgeGraduit

25-10-2006 02:58:35

[quote3af25d1d7a="Dr. Doom"]I hate to be a derailer, but can I get an Oink invite? I'll be happy to trade for a Demonoid invite if someone needs it.[/quote3af25d1d7a]

Not in this thread. There are about 14 other Oink invite threads you can bump though.

JUNIOR6886

25-10-2006 05:42:00

[quotee965b621fd="Daggoth"]This is what I did to get my ratio up. Organize the list of music by lowest number of seeders. Then, start downloading the torrent that has the most leechers and least seeders.[/quotee965b621fd]

is that a donor only feature cause im not seeing how to do that?

burritopunk

25-10-2006 09:47:30

I'm on Demonoid but I assume OiNK works the same way...I just downloaded some kung fu movies and johnny cash and have been seeding for days. I'm at a 1.50 ratio.

Tholek

25-10-2006 10:27:29

[quotefbb3bf608c="theysayjump"]Download the most popular torrents and just leave it seeding. Even if you don't like it.

Just leave your computer on all the time and have it seeding and you'll have a good ratio no problem.[/quotefbb3bf608c]

The only problem with that, is if you don't have a lot of disk space. Having something you don't like taking up room is annoying.

Also, in regards to not having many CDs, you can always visit your local library and see what they have. Of course, buying a few is only right, but if you're ever in there for books, it doesn't hurt to see if they have any CDs. Even audiobooks can up your ratio.

ronmm

25-10-2006 10:44:39

I never download music but give me a break with support the artist crap. They are the reason it cost so much for 1 CD. Seriously, they need to become multi millionaires because they sing a song? Yeah that makes so much sense, let's pay them more then the damn president lol.

The public should reality check them as it is. It's as bad as the movie industry, actors making 25 mil per movie. Retarded, that's why it cost 10 bucks just to go to a damn movie which I will never support.

It's our own fault for supporting them as it is so you keep doing that. They will keep raising the prices and tell you it's because of piracy. Bunch of bull, it's all greed.

Edit Added a couple links to show how retarded it is.

Actors
http//www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/175280p-152629c.html

President
http//people.howstuffworks.com/question449.htm

Tholek

25-10-2006 11:06:43

Still, a lot of artists can't make ends meet. The royalties they get off the CDs they [i94d6e048a9]do[/i94d6e048a9] sell isn't enough. Even the big stars admit they make more touring, and the cut promoters get from tickets would [i94d6e048a9]really[/i94d6e048a9] shock you. I'm not anti-download, but musicians [i94d6e048a9]do[/i94d6e048a9] deserve support.

ronmm

25-10-2006 12:10:17

[quotee05b902ebc="Tholek"]Still, a lot of artists can't make ends meet. The royalties they get off the CDs they [ie05b902ebc]do[/ie05b902ebc] sell isn't enough. Even the big stars admit they make more touring, and the cut promoters get from tickets would [ie05b902ebc]really[/ie05b902ebc] shock you. I'm not anti-download, but musicians [ie05b902ebc]do[/ie05b902ebc] deserve support.[/quotee05b902ebc]

LOL, ok I don't believe that for a second about ends meeting. That's why 50 Cent is number 8 on the Forbes Top 100 Power list.

Sorry they bought a 15mil mansion and over extended themselves lol. Poor money management is there problem not how much they make. Even stupid boy bands make more then a majority of hard working americans can dream of. They can go cry to someone else.

theysayjump

25-10-2006 12:12:36

I think Tholek was talking about smaller artists/bands who don't want to sell crack on street corners or shoot people to get noticed. Those are the people who have to tour constantly and work really hard to get their name out there and for people to notice them.

Those are the people who rely on every single penny they can get from everything they sell. Putting on gigs, travelling to gigs, recording albums etc isn't a chap process so the money has to come from somewhere.

ronmm

25-10-2006 12:17:03

[quoted85bf607ed="theysayjump"]I think Tholek was talking about smaller artists/bands who don't want to sell crack on street corners or shoot people to get noticed. Those are the people who have to tour constantly and work really hard to get their name out there and for people to notice them.

Those are the people who rely on every single penny they can get from everything they sell. Putting on gigs, travelling to gigs, recording albums etc isn't a chap process so the money has to come from somewhere.[/quoted85bf607ed]

Those are the guys that should want their music downloaded in my opinion. Like Tholek said they don't make much off the CDs. Get downloaded get known. I would seed my shit myself if I wanted to get known lol.

Once your known, people will come to see you. That's where they make their money.

ajasax

25-10-2006 12:18:17

[quote0df9bbd575="theysayjump"]Download the most popular torrents and just leave it seeding. Even if you don't like it.

Just leave your computer on all the time and have it seeding and you'll have a good ratio no problem.[/quote0df9bbd575]
Listen to this man ^^

It helps to have your computer constantly running. I think about it like this I pay for "always-on" broadband, should I be always using it? It's a nice surprise some mornings to find out that someone dl'ed one of the torrents you're seeding and helped your ratio overnight. It's the same way with all torrent sites.

Also, a good idea is to check the OiNK forum. There are a [b0df9bbd575]bunch[/b0df9bbd575] of threads on this topic. (not to be rude)

theysayjump

25-10-2006 12:30:10

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Tholek

25-10-2006 12:54:19

TSJ is right. He's even more right when he agrees with me.

burritopunk

25-10-2006 13:26:00

[quotee8d1bf2356="ronmm"][quotee8d1bf2356="theysayjump"]I think Tholek was talking about smaller artists/bands who don't want to sell crack on street corners or shoot people to get noticed. Those are the people who have to tour constantly and work really hard to get their name out there and for people to notice them.

Those are the people who rely on every single penny they can get from everything they sell. Putting on gigs, travelling to gigs, recording albums etc isn't a chap process so the money has to come from somewhere.[/quotee8d1bf2356]

Those are the guys that should want their music downloaded in my opinion. Like Tholek said they don't make much off the CDs. Get downloaded get known. I would seed my shit myself if I wanted to get known lol.

Once your known, people will come to see you. That's where they make their money.[/quotee8d1bf2356]

Yeah, I mean, not every music artist is a millionaire like 50 cent. I've let plenty of touring bands crash at my house for a night because it beats sleeping in a van. Do I download music? Sure. But if I like the artist, I will support them by buying their music, a tshirt, etc. Also, if their records don't sell, the label will drop them. Just my $0.02.

Psyc

25-10-2006 13:29:12

TSJ, if I download those, there are so many seeders that I rarely get any connections to the leechers.

burritopunk, demonoid is easy to maintain a ratio on. You can upload anything you want, making seeding a lot easier. Like a game, I can seed it forever and end up with a 2+ ratio.

tylerc

25-10-2006 14:03:44

Demonoid also allows you to buy upload credit.

theysayjump

25-10-2006 20:27:52

[quotee8ef8bee1f="Psyc"]TSJ, if I download those, there are so many seeders that I rarely get any connections to the leechers.

burritopunk, Demonoid is easy to maintain a ratio on. You can upload anything you want, making seeding a lot easier. Like a game, I can seed it forever and end up with a 2+ ratio.[/quotee8ef8bee1f]

Are you clever(on OiNK)?

bruman

25-10-2006 20:29:03

My ratio is under 1/10th and I have like 4.5 gigs downloaded. I'll probably be banned soon.

Zanpaktou

25-10-2006 20:47:37

Heh try getting your ratio back over 1.0 from Ratio 0.880 Uploaded 28.28 GB Downloaded 32.15 GB

my demonoid account is a hell of a lot better...

Uploaded 71.06 GB
Downloaded 27.50 GB
Ratio 2.58

dont ask how i managed that because i honestly dont know....

regardless, until my isp pinpointed me for violating the Millenium Copyright Act for a tv show i downloaded and left seedeing for a LONG time, i had my computer running almost 24/7 and was constantly seeding, it didnt really help my oink ration, but demonoid stayed stead (even though it did go down)... i miss power user priveleges on oink

theysayjump

25-10-2006 21:02:58

[quote223c559bd5="bruman"]My ratio is under 1/10th and I have like 4.5 gigs downloaded. I'll probably be banned soon.[/quote223c559bd5]

http//oink.me.uk/ratiowatch.php

Psyc

26-10-2006 03:40:35

TSJ, I tried looking in my profile pages but I just don't see where it says clever or not clever.

http//oink.me.uk/userdetails.php?id=379594

theysayjump

26-10-2006 04:36:16

Ok, yeah you're clever. You just have to check a torrent that you're seeding and look at the peer list for it.

If you download a popular album and leave it seeding constantly, you'll make up what you downloaded just by it seeding all the time. justinag06 has never uploaded a single torrent and he has a 1.096 Ration with around 40GB up and down, so it's definitely possible.

Dr. Doom

26-10-2006 13:25:14

I have a question

I uploaded a torrent yesterday and it's almost reached 1gb. However, my ratio shows up as "Inf." (infinite?). What does it mean? When will I be showing a normal ratio?

I suspect it might be because I haven't downloaded anything yet...

JKirk

26-10-2006 13:32:33

[quotecb01edd6fd="Dr. Doom"]I have a question

I uploaded a torrent yesterday and it's almost reached 1gb. However, my ratio shows up as "Inf." (infinite?). What does it mean? When will I be showing a normal ratio?

I suspect it might be because I haven't downloaded anything yet...[/quotecb01edd6fd]

Yeah, you can't have a ratio without having two numbers to begin with. )