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Nevada to Vote on Legal Marijuana[=http//biz.yahoo.com/ap/061017/apfn_nevada_marijuana.html?.v=1]Nevada to Vote on Legal Marijuana

The full story above and the important parts below with my opinons in bold...

[quoteaebc3f9df3]Nevada to Vote on Legal Marijuana

Gambling, prostitution, and now pot? [baebc3f9df3]Please don't even put pot in the same sentence as those two, they have nothing to do with each other[/baebc3f9df3]

Organizers of a Nevada ballot measure hope voters in a state where almost everything goes will go one better and legalize marijuana.
If it passes Nov. 7, Nevada will be the first state to allow adults to possess up to an ounce of pot that they could buy at government-regulated marijuana shops.

In an editorial last spring, the rural Lahontan Valley News argued that gambling, Nevada's most powerful industry, caters to "visceral pleasures," and that it would hypocritical to oppose the legalization of marijuana on moral grounds. [baebc3f9df3]Thank you for making a good point though[/baebc3f9df3]

Proponents of the measure also argue that the legal system wastes time and money on low-level marijuana offenses, and that taxing and regulating pot would put drug dealers out of business while freeing law enforcement to focus on violent crime and more dangerous drugs such as methamphetamine. [baebc3f9df3]Ex-freaking-actly[/baebc3f9df3]

Question 7 allows people 21 and older to possess an ounce of marijuana in their homes -- the same amount allowed under Nevada's medical marijuana law. Currently, possession of an ounce or less is a misdemeanor punishable by a $600 fine.

Colorado residents will vote next month on whether to legalize possession of up to an ounce of marijuana by those 21 and older, similar to an ordinance Denver voters approved last year.

The legislation also imposes a $45-per-ounce excise tax, with some of the proceeds going toward the budget and alcohol, tobacco and drug abuse programs. An ounce of pot on the street costs upwards of $300, depending on the quality. [baebc3f9df3]DAMN! $45 bucks for [iaebc3f9df3]one[/iaebc3f9df3] ounce? ouch[/baebc3f9df3]

A 2002 study by researchers at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas estimated taxing and regulating marijuana would generate $28.6 million in revenue.

The measure has found some surprising allies.

"Make no mistake, I don't think using marijuana is a wise choice for anyone," said the Rev. William C. Webb, a Baptist minister who joined dozens of other religious leaders in announcing their backing. But "if there has to be a market in marijuana, I'd rather it be regulated with sensible safeguards than run by violent gangs and dangerous drug dealers."[/quoteaebc3f9df3]

This would be a great stride for tokers if this gets passed.....I can't wait to see how it turns out....It just doesn't make any sense to me why mary jane is illegal, if it was legal, the government would make tons of money off of taxes and it would bring down some drug dealers for good....

[quote295dcc1a98="MyungChunHa"]Nevada to Vote on Legal Marijuana[=http//biz.yahoo.com/ap/061017/apfn_nevada_marijuana.html?.v=1]Nevada to Vote on Legal Marijuana

The full story above and the important parts below with my opinons in bold...

[quote295dcc1a98]Nevada to Vote on Legal Marijuana

Gambling, prostitution, and now pot? [b295dcc1a98]Please don't even put pot in the same sentence as those two, they have nothing to do with each other[/b295dcc1a98]

Organizers of a Nevada ballot measure hope voters in a state where almost everything goes will go one better and legalize marijuana.
If it passes Nov. 7, Nevada will be the first state to allow adults to possess up to an ounce of pot that they could buy at government-regulated marijuana shops.

In an editorial last spring, the rural Lahontan Valley News argued that gambling, Nevada's most powerful industry, caters to "visceral pleasures," and that it would hypocritical to oppose the legalization of marijuana on moral grounds. [b295dcc1a98]Thank you for making a good point though[/b295dcc1a98]

Proponents of the measure also argue that the legal system wastes time and money on low-level marijuana offenses, and that taxing and regulating pot would put drug dealers out of business while freeing law enforcement to focus on violent crime and more dangerous drugs such as methamphetamine. [b295dcc1a98]Ex-freaking-actly[/b295dcc1a98]

Question 7 allows people 21 and older to possess an ounce of marijuana in their homes -- the same amount allowed under Nevada's medical marijuana law. Currently, possession of an ounce or less is a misdemeanor punishable by a $600 fine.

Colorado residents will vote next month on whether to legalize possession of up to an ounce of marijuana by those 21 and older, similar to an ordinance Denver voters approved last year.

The legislation also imposes a $45-per-ounce excise tax, with some of the proceeds going toward the budget and alcohol, tobacco and drug abuse programs. An ounce of pot on the street costs upwards of $300, depending on the quality. [b295dcc1a98]DAMN! $45 bucks for [i295dcc1a98]one[/i295dcc1a98] ounce? ouch[/b295dcc1a98]

A 2002 study by researchers at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas estimated taxing and regulating marijuana would generate $28.6 million in revenue.

The measure has found some surprising allies.

"Make no mistake, I don't think using marijuana is a wise choice for anyone," said the Rev. William C. Webb, a Baptist minister who joined dozens of other religious leaders in announcing their backing. But "if there has to be a market in marijuana, I'd rather it be regulated with sensible safeguards than run by violent gangs and dangerous drug dealers."[/quote295dcc1a98]

This would be a great stride for tokers if this gets passed.....I can't wait to see how it turns out....It just doesn't make any sense to me why mary jane is illegal, if it was legal, the government would make [b295dcc1a98]tons of money off of taxes[/b295dcc1a98] and it would bring down some drug dealers for good....[/quote295dcc1a98]

I have a feeling that most of those taxes would be ignored.

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I hear about this every fucking day now. The commericals are funny though...

yeah i read about this yesterday it sounds pretty good finally a State is going in the right direction...... hey jordan are the comercials more pro or con for legalization...how do most people feel about it

[quote4a91106c1c="Stroid"]yeah i read about this yesterday it sounds pretty good finally a State is going in the right direction...... hey jordan are the comercials more pro or con for legalization...how do most people feel about it[/quote4a91106c1c]

Mostly pro but that dosen't mean much. Nevada for the most part votes conservative, and generally its the candidates/bills that are in danger of not being elected/passed that run comercials. It's a very capitalist state and dosen't think much of family values but rather whats fiscally better for the state. All and all I think it has a good chance of passing but it could easily go either way.

I was in Vegas two weeks ago, and someone from a show in a casino said they were aiming to ban all smoking in public places. I'll be in Vegas again for the Nov. 4th weekend, so I'll see what sort of billboards they have up about this.

[quote86abb876bc="Gooogler"]
I have a feeling that most of those taxes would be ignored.[/quote86abb876bc]
I don't see how an extra $28 million can go ignored ?

If there was any state in the U.S. that would do this first, it would be Nevada.

Over the next generation I think we'll start seeing a lot more of this.

[quoteb889aa59fd="ilanbg"]If there was any state in the U.S. that would do this first, it would be Nevada.

Over the next generation I think we'll start seeing a lot more of this.[/quoteb889aa59fd]
That's my feeling as well, I always thought that the legalization movement was going to start soon and it seems like it might start sooner than I had in mind....I'm just pretty angry that pot has such a bad reputation, it's not as bad as advertised but don't quote me saying that it's healthy, although it does have a lot of benefits such as reliving stress, which is a lead cause of a lot of problems health-wise...

It may start but it won't get far until the Federal Government gets on board. The reason that state legalization has not been successful thus far is the fact that there are federal laws (the Controlled Substances Act, et al) that override state law. Unless and until MJ is moved into a federal CSA schedule of legal drugs, it will remain illegal by federal law. That's why Proposition 215 in California that legalized medicinal use has never really taken off -- people have been arrested by the Feds since the law went into effect.

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_215

Until the Feds get on board with it, I don't think you'll want to flaunt your habit no matter what your state decides. If they Feds will arrest people for [ibb08256811]medicinal[/ibb08256811] use that is legal by state law, you can bet they won't tolerate recreational use in the least.

And just for the record I oppose legalization. P

even though I enjoy the occasional act of smoking pot, and I know PTSD veterans who actually get calmed by the stuff, I think it's worse having it in our society than not having it.

Societies that have it legalized, or at least tolerated, are ok, but not super well off. But that's not even where I'm going with this.

PSAs show potheads stoned doing nothing sitting on a couch. They're lumps of shit that don't do anything for anyone, not even themselves. The shit's not good for you. No, it doesn't kill brain cells at all, but it's not exactly the biggest motivator. yes it's fun, and like I said, I enjoy it as much as the next guy, but do we really wanna sell out ourselves and make it that much easier for someone to grow addicted to weed just for some more tax dollars.

And don't fucking tell me weed isn't addictive. Fuck...food is addictive, sex is addictive, and lots of fucking drugs are addictive. Weed is too, and to legalize it is just like playing off the weaknesses of many people.

YES people should have a choice ultimately, I just think that it's stupid to give people one more vice for them to rely upon. People that smoke pot aren't normal. I fucked up a year of high school because of that shit, I almost killed my good reputation at school, and I became very amotivated.

I agree that decriminalizing does lower crime, and would probably make things somewhat safer, but there is a tradeoff, and who's to say that crime won't get more intense in other realms?

this is a difficult and controvercial argument to make either way. Just pass on grass I guess.

Alcohol is addictive, so is nicotine, hell, caffeine is. It's not the job of the federal government to babysit and make sure we don't get addicted, we are adults, so we should be mature enough to handle drugs like them.

I guess id have no problem with people doing POT if it was done in their homes or in a private place. As long as its not being done in pubilc...

[quotee62a621daf]PSAs show potheads stoned doing nothing sitting on a couch. They're lumps of shit that don't do anything for anyone, not even themselves.[/quotee62a621daf]
Thats from a PSA, do you believe everything your tv tells you?
yea, sitting on a couch doing nothing is pretty kick ass, but i'll tell you what, alot of americans do that WITHOUT WEED.

also, alcohol is way more dangerous than marijuana, and it isnt shunned upon

[quote7df3261bcd="tylerc"]Alcohol is addictive, so is nicotine, hell, caffeine is. It's not the job of the federal government to babysit and make sure we don't get addicted, we are adults, so we should be mature enough to handle drugs like them.[/quote7df3261bcd]

They don't give a crap if you drink a fucking truck full of alcohol, it's just that then you go drive and go fucking kill a group of kids crossing the street. I saw a drunk 18 year old driving across a bridge, one lane was closed, she hit the metal sign and flew up and off the bridge, she was 18, never even lived to make it into college. That's what alcohol does to you.

"PSAs show potheads stoned doing nothing sitting on a couch."

HAHA! You believed that commercial? What in the hell... Let me guess, if you grew up in Germany back in the day, you would have also believed all the Nazi propaganda as well without questioning it?

I found this out, the people who despise weed have never tried it. I went to school in high school every day blowed out of my mind, and I made A's and B's.

After school we would smoke 2 blunts, and play basketball for 3 - 4 hours at a time. Sit on the couch, never. (Unless we were playing poker or madden)

[quoteb3e5c41106="TryinToGetPaid"]"PSAs show potheads stoned doing nothing sitting on a couch."

HAHA! You believed that commercial? What in the hell... Let me guess, if you grew up in Germany back in the day, you would have also believed all the Nazi propaganda as well without questioning it?

I found this out, the people who despise weed have never tried it. I went to school in high school every day blowed out of my mind, and I made A's and B's.

After school we would smoke 2 blunts, and play basketball for 3 - 4 hours at a time. Sit on the couch, never. (Unless we were playing poker or madden)[/quoteb3e5c41106]
[bb3e5c41106]THANK YOU[/sizeb3e5c41106][/bb3e5c41106]

That commercial is bullshit and the fact that some people believe just goes to show you how people have this false evil look upon mary jane because of propaganda...

The fact is, people who are unmotivated already give a bad name to pot because they smoke and do nothing or do dumb things (that they would do anyway mind you) and when they get caught they blame it on the drugs affecting their mental stabilty x ....Then gullable people believe them and give them a second chance, some of the potheads believe it themselves so they can have an excuse....Yes, it is just an excuse...

In no way did pot affect my motivation or grades in school, in fact, I'm just like tryingtogetpaid and got A's and B's in my senior year....Plus I played sports every chance that I got and I'm currently running everyday and going to the gym every other day, while smoking, not while high but while I still have it in my life....I'm perfectly healthy and on a protein diet, not eating junk food all the time....

The only adverse affect it has had on me is my short-term memory...I already had problems with that, however, it's just gotten a little bit worse....Plus I remember anything important, I just can't remember things that don't matter...

And dmorris, good point indeed, it will be something to see how this turns out in Navada....BTW, would you rather have it legal and monitored by the government or in the hands of dangerous drug dealers?

It's going to be on the streets no matter what, the drug enforcements have not proved capable of stopping it, it's really just a matter of my above question now....

There is a BBC documentary I downloaded called if "Drugs Were Legal" it is fictional, but the interviews are real. It is set in 2012 and all drugs but heroin and cocaine (crack included) are legal. Which in my mind makes a lot of sense, because X is one of the most dangerous drugs to make and if someone made a bad batch, you die.

Also, as I have stated before, the government wastes entirely too much money on getting weed dealers and smokers off the streets. When in turn, they could be legalizing and taxing it.

I see marijuana easily becoming legal across all 50 states very soon. And even more soon if Nevada steps forward and becomes the first state to do so.

PS. Let me guess, some of you idiots believe "Reefer Madness" that weed makes you go insane.....

[quote105f25818a="TryinToGetPaid"]There is a BBC documentary I downloaded called if "Drugs Were Legal" it is fictional, but the interviews are real. It is set in 2012 and all drugs but heroin and cocaine (crack included) are legal. Which in my mind makes a lot of sense, because X is one of the most dangerous drugs to make and if someone made a bad batch, you die.

Also, as I have stated before, the government wastes entirely too much money on getting weed dealers and smokers off the streets. When in turn, they could be legalizing and taxing it.

I see marijuana easily becoming legal across all 50 states very soon. And even more soon if Nevada steps forward and becomes the first state to do so.

PS. Let me guess, some of you idiots believe "Reefer Madness" that weed makes you go insane.....[/quote105f25818a]
"Reefer Madness" was so damn funny lol

Is "If Drugs Were Legal" for or against it? Do you still have it, maybe you could send it to me? Sounds like something I would want to see...Although there would be a few more drugs that I would make illegal than just herion and cocaine....