I'm fat, and I want to lose weight

I'm 20, and overweight. I need to lose weight just so I can feel better about myself. Share with me what works for you guys. I'll give you some background info

-Hoodia is a load of bullshit
-A rigorous exercise pattern/routine I'd love to have so I could follow
-Any wonderdrugs that I can use with exercise (excluding coke and steroids)?
-Good tasting, low calorie foods?
-Not so good tasting, but filling low calorie foods?


It's like...I'm super sexy...I really am, just I have a lot of sexiness to love, and I think that girls are overwealmed by my big, sexy body. I think that instead of intimidating them by my supersexiness, I could just stay equally as sexy, just lower my actual body's volume.

I appreciate any insight.

oh and I'm not bedridden obese, I could just afford to lose about 50 pounds and I would look damn good.

Jog every day. Start with as much as you can handle (I started with only five minutes a day, at a slow pace) and build up on a weekly basis.

That is probably the best advice out there.

I'm one of the low-carb nuts. Lost 65 lbs in 4 months about 2 years ago. Worked wonders for me, AND it reduced my blood pressure and cholestoral, as well as stabilized my metabolism so I don't have the blood sugar peaks and valleys that always caused me to feel hypoglycemic if I missed a meal. Even when I was a kid, up into my 20's, and was in great shape, I had those hypoglycemic episodes due to all the junk carbs I was taking in. When I control my carb intake, I don't have those anymore.

BTW when I lost the 65 lbs and lowered my BP and HDL/Triglycerides, I was eating lots of fat and red meat. Counting carbs was far more effective for me than counting calories ever was. Oh, and I also didn't exercise either -- this was strictly a dietary weight loss.

Ill tell you this, the healthiest way to lose weight veganism. You dont have to do it for the animals, but you can do it for your health...

Eat organic food. (Food that is free of chemicals, GMOs, HFCS, MSG, etc)

No processed foods whatsoever.

Eat lots of fruits and vegetables daily, especially green vegetables, these are highly detoxifying.

I have been eating organic for 2 years now. I have a whole food supplement every day, it has about 35 different organic greens in it.
I used to weigh 190 (not fat), and I dropped down to 160. My skin is tighter to my body, I have lots more energy, etc.

And yes, you have to exercise on a regular basis too. Sweating is very important.

You don't have to go that extreme. Just cut out the junk food, and don't snack so much. When you feel yourself gettingn full, stop. I never finish meals at restaurants anymore.

Also cut down, or quit drinking soda. Loading up on water makes you feel really good. I lost 25 lbs by just doing this.

65 pounds in 4 months? God, teach me the ways.. please. Haha.

Cheating your way to lose weight (drugs), will only make it worse in the long run.

Eat less, eat healthy, run. There is hardly any secret formula for it. And congrats on actaully doing something, instead of just sitting there.

FYI, I hardly consider 20 pounds overweight.

lol I wouldn't mind losing weight, I could, but I don't put the time in to do so.

http//forum.bodybuilding.com/

all you need to know is this
your caloric expenditure must be less than your caloric intake.
always keep that in mind.
some EASY ways to decrease caloric intake
1. drink zero calorie drinks - what is in the drink does not matter. water, diet soda. who cares, the calories matter.
2. decrease your portion sizes. u can still order the 1 lbs steak but instead of finishing all that is on your plate, take a 1/3 of it home in a doggie bag and eat it later.
3. cut out obvious junk food
4. in order to not hit the candy machines, bring stuff with u to snack on. eliminating snacks will be impossible but you need to be prepared with low calorie options.

the second part is increasing activity. be active for 20 minutes at a time 4 times per week to the extent that your heart beat increases so that either you notice it or if u measure it it is 1.66 times your normal rate

[quote50ad9532f9="Akademikz"]65 pounds in 4 months? God, teach me the ways.. please. Haha.[/quote50ad9532f9]
It was very easy, actually. Surprisingly easy. You just have to be commited to limiting your carb intake. For example, Atkins suggest that during the first 2 weeks of induction, you limit yourself to 20 grams per day of net carbs (Net Carbs = Total Carbs - Fiber Carbs - Sugar Alcohol Carbs) and then slowly increase. However, I stayed the course and didn't increase them for a long time -- I stayed on induction for almost the entire 4 months. 20 carbs is a rediculously low amount, but if you like meat like I do, it was easy. I don't get tired of eating meat, and protein is very important to the metabolism, muscle building, and fat burning. So it was a natural choice for me.

Other people saw my success and tried to emulate it, with mixed results. Most either couldn't stand the restrictions and got tired of meat and green vegetables all the time, or their bodies couldn't adapt to it. Studies show that for about 20% of the population, low carb can be bad, causing a spike in cholesterol or blood pressure, so you should monitor yourself while you do it. For the other 80% of us though, it's great -- you just have to stick it out. The hardest thing for me to give up was not the sweets, potatoes, and pasta, but the white bread. I liloveli bread, probably 2nd only to meat. )

It was the best possible diet for me, because I cannot and will not give up meat. I had resigned myself to just dying overweight because I was one of the brainwashed masses who believed that fat + red meat == heart disease and cholesterol and high BP, until I saw for myself that is not the case (for most people). Moderation is the key, and you can eat all the meat you want as long as you eliminate bad foods or nutritionally sparse foods. When you eat, eat the food with the most nutritional value, and eliminate those with no value, i.e.
[list50ad9532f9][li50ad9532f9]Trans-fats. Natural fats are much better for you.
[li50ad9532f9]Highly processed foods with nitrites. Nitrites are notoriously bad for you, but I must admit I still take in a lot of 'em, as I eat a lot of lunch meat and bacon.
[li50ad9532f9]Starchy foods with no nutritional value, like white potatoes. Sweet potatoes, while having a natural sugar content, are much better for you (they're not really potatoes, they're closer to carrots).
[li50ad9532f9]Refined sugars
[li50ad9532f9]Refined (white) flours and grains. Eat whole grains.
[li50ad9532f9]While natural fats are fine, don't go out of your way to over-eat them either. Moderation is still important, no matter the food.[/listu50ad9532f9]
And most importantly, as has been mentioned, otherwise eat whatever you want -- but only until satisfied. NOT full, but satisfied. Overeating is the worst thing to do.

Both my doctor and my wife's doctor are believers in the low-carb approach, and praised me for my weight loss. My wife sees a specialist every 4-6 months. I lost most of my weight between these appointments, and when he saw me again he freaked out! He thought I had cancer or something. lol We discussed the diet and he ran out the same day and bought a freezer full of steaks, he couldn't wait to start the diet himself. ) Also, a lady I worked with wasn't much overweight but suffered from high cholesterol and BP. Her doctor told her to eliminate sugar and margarine (trans-fats!) and switch to real butter for everything. Otherwise no dietary changes, no full-blown Atkins-type diet. She was skeptical, but tried it. Not only did she lose weight, but her HDL/Triglycerides and BP returned to normal levels after only a month or so, using BUTTER.

It's amazing how brainwashed people have been for the past 20 years on dietary issues, and it's mostly the government's "food pyramid" that's to blame.

dont lose weight lose fat.

if you put your body into starvation mode your body will first feed off of muscle then fat.

first start by cutting all junk food/ sugar/ uneccessary carbs.
then work yourself into an exercise routine ( cardio and lifting)
then get at a comfortable calorie deficit.
-500 calories a day should be fine plus exercise
a maximum of 2 pounds per week the rest is fat.
6 meals keep your metabolism high so have 6 small meals about the same calories for each meal.
have low gi carbs in the morning and avoid them before going to bed.

http//www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/lowfat.html

keto diets are pretty awesome.

you can also jump into the supplement world there is plenty but dont do it until youve lost alot of weight use supplements when your at a weight "wall"

more to come


also try keto

1 - Diet, Diet, Diet.. - Similar to how
business is about location, location, location, losing fat is primarily
about your diet/nutrition. In my city alone (Sioux Falls, South Dakota) we
have a ratio of 1500 when it relates to fast food eateries vs. population.
Yes, that means for every 500 people who live here, there is a fast food
joint. This becomes more of a problem when you compare that to the ratio of
people vs. grocery stores, which is 14500 (not counting gas stations) As
you can see, we have become a society that prides (shames really) on
convenience. Food has become more about taste, eating more of an experience,
and nutrition a thing of the past.

However, the problem does not stop at McDonalds, it just begins there.
Inside our grocery stores lies an abundance of unhealthy dietary options as
well. It is often said that the only 'safe' part of the grocery store is the
perimeter isles, which are usually occupied by produce, meats, dairy, and
health foods. The key to solving these negative trends is education.
Education about what foods are healthy, education about what foods to avoid,
and education about the most important word in your dietary vocabulary...
moderation.

Basic Guidelines for Dieting Success

A) Eat 5 to 6 small meals per day -

Eating frequent smaller meals, usually spread apart by 2-3 hours, has MANY
benefits that relate directly to fat loss, such as

- Assisting in the regulation of blood glucose levels
- Increase in metabolism which results in more calories burned
- Helps to balance nutrient timing
- Helps fight urges to overeat/binge
- Reported to help reduce bad cholesterol
- Reduction of Appetite

Below are some charts to show the energy balance when eating constantly
versus eating bigger meals less frequently, it should be noted that the same
amount of calories were used in each of these graphs, just different meal
timings. The red arrow indicates meals (energy intake) whereas the black
represents exercise (energy expenditure)




B) Stay hydrated -

Staying hydrated is ESSENTIAL for weight loss, but why? Water has many roles
in the body, such as

- Helps to regulate body temperatures
- Delivers nutrients/oxygen to cells
- Assists in waste removal
- Protects organs and joints
- Proper hydration reduces water retention

These benefits make it clear that being properly hydrated is important, but
probably the most direct fatloss related effect comes from NOT being
properly hydrated. Dehydration leads to metabolic slowdowns, yes..
read it again. You can sabatoge your fat loss efforts by not drinking enough
water! In addition, dehydration can lead to electrolyte imbalances which
causes loss of energy.

So what does all of this mean? It means to DRINK MORE WATER.
The Institute of Medicine recommends that men consume roughly 3.0 liters and
women consume 2.2 a day. However, this very basic guidelines to not take
into effect the water lost during exercise, sleep, or due to various
dieuretic products (caffeine being the most common)

A final note on hydration is that relying on being 'thirsty' is not the way
to stay properly hydrated. By the time you are thirsty you are already in
the beginning stages of dehydration.

C) Caloric Deficit -

While this is arguably the biggest portion of dieting, I didn't want to
scare anyone off too soon. But by now I know you are hooked, so time to
delve into the deep waters of dieting. Operating in a caloric deficit, or
taking in less calories than you burn, is truly the backbone of fat loss.
This is something that while basic is often misunderstood. This is because
each of our bodies are different, so finding the right caloric range is
really trial and error. However, there are some formulas to help you get a
starting point

Basic Formula - Total bodyweight X 15 for maintenance
calories, subtracting 500 to reach your 'cutting calories'.
This formula is good for those who are just starting out as it keeps things
simple. The downfall is that often is that for 'obese' people this often
gives them too much of a caloric intake.

Intermediate Formula - Harris Benedict Formula

STEP 1 - Find your BMR
Women BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in
inches ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )
Men BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) -
( 6.8 x age in year )

This number provides your Basal Metabolic Rate. Your Basal Metabolic Rate is
essentially the minimum caloric intake to maintain basic life functions.

STEP 2 - Apply the 'Activity Modifier'

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1. If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) Calorie-Calculation =
BMR x 1.2
2. If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
3. If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5
days/week) Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
4. If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
5. If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or
2x training) Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

Find the multiplier that fits closest to you and multiply it by your BMR.

FINAL STEP - Subtract 500 calories to find your cutting calories.

This formula provides an accurate starting point IF you use the appropriate
modifier. Many people over/understimate their activity level which can
totally screw this formula up.

Advanced Formula - Katch McArdle Formula

STEP 1 - Find out your Lean Body Mass.

Total Weight - (% Bodyfat X Total Weight)

STEP 2 - Find your BMR
BMR (men/women) = 370 + (9.8 X lean body mass in lbs)

STEP 3 - Apply the 'Activity Modifier'

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1. If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) Calorie-Calculation =
BMR x 1.2
2. If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
3. If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5
days/week) Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
4. If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
5. If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or
2x training) Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

Find the multiplier that fits closest to you and multiply it by your BMR.

FINAL STEP - Subtract 500 calories to find your cutting calories.

This formula gives the most accurate caloric range IF it is given a proper
LBM measurement AND the right Activity Modifier.

MORE ABOUT CALORIC DEFICIT
In addition to operating in a caloric deficit many experiment with various
macronutrient breakdowns, caloric cycling, and even ketogenic diets. More
info about those things later.

D) What to eat!

We know what our calorie range looks like, we know we want to eat every 2-3
hours, but what on earth do we actually eat? There are many 'diets' out
there that promote various breakdowns as it relates to macronutrients. One
of the most common variations is a diet comprised of 40% protein, 40%
carbohydrates, and 20% fats. This is typically referred to as a bodybuilders
diet. I encourage you to find your own macronutrient breakdown once you've
obtained a solid knowledge of nutrition. Regardless of what macronutrient
breakdown you enjoy it is important to ensure we are getting the right foods
within each macronutrient

Protein - The majority of your protein intake should come from whole food
sources. Things like chicken breast, lean red meats, lean pork, turkey
breast, eggs, and milk. You can supplement your protein intake with various
protein powders as well. Males are generally advised to avoid soy protein in
large quantities due to it's estrogen-like properties. Most diets recommend
a diet high in protein.

Carbohydrates - The majority of your carbohydrates should be from Fibrous,
unredefined sources. Things like vegetables, oats, beans, lentils, whole
wheat products, yams, and sweet potatoes are good choices in this field.
This is also the category where many fail. Simple Carbohydrates have a very
limited place in dieting, but a LARGE place on our supermarket shelves. More
on this in our 'foods to avoid section'.

Fats - When it relates to fats, we want to make sure we get plenty of the
Essential Fatty Acids. Things like flax seed(s) oil, sunflower seed(s) oil,
fish oil, olive oil, nuts, avacadoes, and natural peanut butter. These and
other unsaturated fats are actually GOOD for you when dieting. Taking in
saturated fats from eggs, cheeses, and meats is also beneficial as it
relates to anabolic hormone levels. However, Trans-fatty acids are the enemy
when trying to lose fat, as these have a negative effect on cholesterol
levels and are commonly associated with heart disease.

#2 - Training

An intergal part of any fat loss journey is obviously going to be your training. For specific questions about training methods/techniques, you should check out the exercise section of this forum OR bodybuilding.com where thousands of articles contain a plethora of information.


A) Cardio, what/why/how/when?

WHAT IS CARDIO?!?!?!?!

Cardio is a medical term used to refer to the heart. From Greek kardia heart. So cardio is our hearts? No silly P Cardio is any exercise which raises your resting heart rate.

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Resting Heart Rate

How to find your Resting Heart Rate -
The best time to find your Resting Heart Rate is upon waking, while you are still in bed actually!

1 - Place your index and middle fingers over the outside of your opposite wrist, just below the base of your thumb.
2 - Count the number of heartbeats over a period of 1 minute. This is your Resting Heart Rate.

For a more accurate RHR you can track your heartrate for 3 minutes and average out the results.

What your RHR Means -
An average adult will run between 60-100 beats per minute, however for people who exercise constantly (ie all of us P) this number may be lower. The lower your RHR is, the more physically 'fit' you are.

Now that we know our 'resting heart rate', we can look at the opposite end of the spectrum, our Maximum Heart Rate.

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Max. Heart Rate -

The easiest of all heart rates to calculate...

220 minus your age P

WHY DO WE DO CARDIO?!?!?!?

Cardio burns calories
Cardio stregthens your heart muscle, making it do less work to pump more blood
Cardio increases lung capacity
Cardio builds endurance
Cardio helps to reduce risk of heart attacks, high cholesterol, high blood pressure and diabetes
Cardio has a positive effect on moods, sleeping patterns, and stress levels.

HOW DO WE DO CARDIO?!?!?!?

There are quite literally HUNDREDS of forms of cardio that you can take advantage of, here are some of the popular ones

Walking
Jogging
Running
Climbing
Skipping (ie Jump Rope)
Swimming
Racquetball
Tennis
Basketball
Biking (recumbent, mountain, or just riding a bike)
Stairclimber
Rowing (machine or canoeing)
Volleyball

And the currently most used form of cardio (at my gym) the Elliptical Machine.

WHEN DO I DO MY CARDIO???

Let me begin by noting that the important part about cardio is that you do cardio, the rest is just added benefit. There are various times that you CAN do your cardio.

Upon waking - Cardio done upon waking on an empty stomach is a current popular method. The idea is that your body is deprived of carbs upon waking and will tap into stored fat as a primary fuel source. Opposers of this method cite that muscle loss is too much of a factor here, as well as a lack of intensity. However, using an EAA/BCAA product before/during morning cardio provides the same benefits while staving off muscle loss AND giving you more energy. This method is usually best done at a medium intensity (65-75% of Max Heart Rate)

After weight training - This is probably the most common method of cardio for most people, due to time constraints. After your strength/weight training cardio is not optimal when compared to the other times (ideally you want 8 hours between strength training/cardio) but it is still obviously better than no cardio! Many people advocate taking a protein shake after the weights but BEFORE the cardio, whereas others just wait until both cardio and weights are done. This type of cardio is usually best done at lower (50-60%) or medium intensity (65-75% of Max Heart Rate).

8 hours before/after lifting - This is the 'fairytale' cardio, this is when you are hitting your stride from a metabolic standpoint by reaping the benefits of both cardio and the earlier/later lifting while still allowing proper recovery for high intensity. This type of cardio is where you can begin to experiment with High Intensity Interval Training or Tabata Intervals, which can you find out more about in John Lee's training section.

B) Strength Training -

As it relates to strength training there are SO many programs out there, it is hard to recommend where to start. However, I will provide you with the RULES you need to know when weight-training while cutting.

Step 1 - Use good form
Good form is probably one of the most overlooked things in the gym. It is too common to see someone throwing the weight around like it is a ragdoll, we are lifting IRON here people, so use proper form.

Step 2 - Intensity
Regardless of the program you are using, give each session your all. I don't care if you are pushing up just the bar on bench press, push it up like you are moving 1,000lbs. Each rep is crucial, so don't slack on any of them.

Step 3 - Frequency
Find a program that fits your goals and stick with it. I, personally, am a fan of 5 day routines while cutting, though many people go with a 3 day split. How often you lift, and how often you hit each muscle group, is going to be key to preserving the existing muscle mass you have.

Step 4 - Fear
Don't be afraid to lift weights while cutting, you aren't going to 'get huge and ripped' overnight. In fact, while operating in a caloric deficit you will most likely NOT gain size, unless you are new to lifting. If you are new to lifting, welcome to what we call 'newbie gains'

Step 5 - Recovery
One of the most important times as it relates to lifting is that time when you aren't lifting. Your 'rest' days are the time when growth and repair occur, so make sure you don't slack nutritionally on these days. Also remember that overtraining can lead to plateaus, so ensure you do give your body time to recover.

You've already received a lot of good advice, so I'll keep it short. Watch how much beer you consume.

Eating

Combine 6 meals into your daily eating plan, these 6 meals should be spaced out and eaten every 2 1/2- 3 hours that you are awake. Each meal should consist of a protein, carbohydrates and essential fatty acids. Follow this rule for every meal EXCEPT for your last meal as you don't need carbs and efa's while sleeping.
When it comes to carbohydrates there is another simple rule

Wake up - 3pm Starchy and complex carbs
3pm - Sleep Fibrous carbs

Simply because when you wake up you need energy! Your body feels deprived while sleeping you may not feel it but its a fact 6-8 hours with out sleeping can do this. So eat the starchy and complex carbs until 3pm after this time have the Fibrous carbs so that you are not taking in too much energy and not using it.


What's good?

Protein
-tuna
-salmon
-chicken breast
-egg whites
-lean beef
-turkey breast

Carbohydrates
Starchy and complex
-yams
-sweet potato
-potato
-brown rice
-oats
-wheat or whole grains

Fibrous
-Green vegetables

Note Stay away from refined carbs exp. White bread

Essential fatty acids

-Flax seed oil
-Fish oil
-avacado
-Salmon
-nuts
-seeds

Some info needed to know on eating

Most people in the know how will often say "The food that goes into your mouth is worth 80% of your whole dieting plan" Basically meaning the food you eat is the main reason for you losing or putting on fat... the other 20% is cardio and lifting.
It is essential that you have carbs with your protein as the carbs raise an insulin spike helping you digest the protein and the efa will help with testosrone production which is essential in building muscle.
Drink A LOT of water a day... 8+ cups a day the more the better, your body needs the water to help clean your system. Your body will also be able to detect and flush out water when its not needed. Try drinking cold water, drinking ice cold water through the day makes your body use energy to heat it up before it can be digested, 200 calories are achievable.
Carbs and Fats are what gives you energy in the gym to lift weights or to run a mile. Protein it self cannot fuel you.. 1g of protein per pound of body weight is needed to help in muscle repairs and management. So dont skimp on the protein it's essential.

Cycling

Your body is smart, it can detect when you are starving it... so obviously starving your body is the wrong way to go in losing weight, because as soon as your body detects its in starvation mode it will cling on to all the energy it has and in result your metabolism will be much slower... HOWEVER something you can do is cycling it..

This is when you eat a lower amount of calories for a few days and then a slighly higher amount before the body detects you are skimping on calories.

Exp..
Say your daily needed calories where 2000

You would cycle like this

Monday 1700
Tuesday 1700
Wednesday 1700
Thursday 2200
Friday 1700
Saturday 1700
Sunday 2100

You have just cycled off 1200 calories (3500 calories in a pound)

Now tracking calories might be a pain in the ass, but is needed. Track them or stack them!

1g of fat 9 calories

1g of carbs 4 calories

1g of protein 4 calories

1g of alcohol 7 calories

Heres a useful link in helping you track calories

http//www.calorieking.com/foods/


Workout and eating

When working out there is a way to make the results come in better.

Straight after your workout your muscles are burning and craving protein with that said slam down an Protein shake(can be considered as part of your 6 meals)... make sure it is a whey protein ISOLATE type as it's fast absorbing.. mix it with water for faster absorption as milk has casein in it which is digested slower.
1 hour after your post workout shake have a solid meal.

Last points on eating
The only way YOU will stay on your diet is by making it enjoyable don't be worried about not following it point by point, experiment a bit, try new things... and weight your self weekly if improvements are showing continue if not just try something new.. not everyone is the same, some things will work for you but some things won't work for an other..
Have a cheat meal once a week... keep it in moderation don't have a MASSIVE meal but have a portioned meal..

Remember keep the eating clean, simple and enjoyable...






Cardio

A simple rule to follow the more energy you burn up the more fat you will lose.

220 minus your age will equal your maximum heart rate.

If you are dramatically overweight you may not be able to do as much cardio as the lighter fellow.. start of slow and try to build up.

Try building up to exercising for 45 minutes @ 70-85% of your max hr

Recommended cardio

-running
-Elliptical (no joint impact)
-cycling
-rowing
-skipping rope
-power walking

basically anything that will raise your hr and get you into a sweat is good cardio...

Since this is a simple way of losing weight thread i will not go into HIIT training.



Training

Eveyone is diferent so won't be going into detail about weight training..
Here are some links to solid weight routines

http//www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbin...orkoutPrograms

[quote3393300f1c="KeithA"]You've already received a lot of good advice, so I'll keep it short. Watch how much beer you consume.[/quote3393300f1c]

lol this sucks as I'm a college kid (21 in December) and I know that even clear liquors turn into sugar.


Thanks everyone, Kidd, you've got a lot of info that I'm gonna look at.

I'm almost done with a Biomedical Studies Concentration at school and when it comes to nutrition, I could write the book on it.

However, practicing what preach is a different issue.

I work literally 6am - 10pm everyday pretty much except for 2 or 3 days on good weeks. It's hard to find any time to take care of myself, but I think I'll print out this shit and look at it.


I lost (and later found) 40 lbs in about 2 months (or less) by inadvertantly going through atkins induction. That diet works, but I love carbs. Considering I have a heart problem, (which as a result I have an enlarged heart) and that I'm overweight (which as a result I have an enlarged heart), I think It's time I really go into it full boar.

Does anyone have any scheduling ideas? I.E. days to eat what and what days to work out and such and what do I work out on those days? I wanna grab some muscle tone in there too.


Thank you EVERYONE! This community is awesome!

im availble on aim pretty much all day either on sidekick laptop or desktop pc i have alot of info so hit me up )

Jog in the morning before you eat breakfast. Not only is this the best time to lose weight, but it wakes you up in the morning. Also, many small meals throughout the day > two to three big meals.

fasted cardio if you have time is great becuase less glycogen and theres no food to feed on so much of what you burn is fat. also you will have good energy for the rest of the day.

speaking of cycling.


I lost about 20lbs in 2 months, by just biking 3x a week 20 miles each time. Biking on pavement gets soo boring for me, thats why i ride the trails. You never get bored, because the mroe you ride the better you become at technical parts......

i mean it just rox.

Slow your metabolism =) Takes about a week

Here is the secret to losing weight. I lost 50 pounds this summer doing this. Get nutrisystem and do some walking, perhaps hit up the gym. Yup that's all I did. Lost 50 pounds in two months. )

[quotefe69e9303c="Powerbook"]Here is the secret to losing weight. I lost 50 pounds this summer doing this. Get nutrisystem and do some walking, perhaps hit up the gym. Yup that's all I did. Lost 50 pounds in two months. )[/quotefe69e9303c]

By walking and using Nutrisystem you lost 50lbs in 2 months? That's pretty wack.

[quotea5863aa7c7="Akademikz"][quotea5863aa7c7="Powerbook"]Here is the secret to losing weight. I lost 50 pounds this summer doing this. Get nutrisystem and do some walking, perhaps hit up the gym. Yup that's all I did. Lost 50 pounds in two months. )[/quotea5863aa7c7]

By walking and using Nutrisystem you lost 50lbs in 2 months? That's pretty wack.[/quotea5863aa7c7]

Yup. It was all about portion control. The nutrisystem diet was definitely a good one. I didn't mind it too much. Now I even got MILFs looking at me. ) It was well worth it in the long wrong. I have so much more self-confidence and I don't have to worry about picking up chicks anymore. I figured senior year was important and it was time to look good. The computer is a magnet for gaining weight. Even walking for 30 minutes daily is better than nothing. Make sure you spend less time around the computer.

[quote2d04324558="Powerbook"][quote2d04324558="Akademikz"][quote2d04324558="Powerbook"]Here is the secret to losing weight. I lost 50 pounds this summer doing this. Get nutrisystem and do some walking, perhaps hit up the gym. Yup that's all I did. Lost 50 pounds in two months. )[/quote2d04324558]

By walking and using Nutrisystem you lost 50lbs in 2 months? That's pretty wack.[/quote2d04324558]

Yup. It was all about portion control. The nutrisystem diet was definitely a good one. I didn't mind it too much. Now I even got MILFs looking at me. ) It was well worth it in the long wrong. I have so much more self-confidence and I don't have to worry about picking up chicks anymore. I figured senior year was important and it was time to look good. The computer is a magnet for gaining weight. Even walking for 30 minutes daily is better than nothing. Make sure you spend less time around the computer.[/quote2d04324558]

How much in total did the Nutrisystem cost you for the entire summer and how much do you weigh before/after? That's pretty impressive and that way I wouldn't have to balance all these numbers myself, haha.

I am also a big low carb person. When you are doing the low carb diet, after about a week, you dont feel hungry.

I lost about 80 pounds in around 6-7 months just from riding my bike to school every day (about 2 miles round trip).

My friend lost 80 pounds doing an 18 week liquid diet type program, if you are interested I can get more information from him.

I weighed 233 now I weigh 183. I think it was like $200 or for 4 weeks or something, so probably around 400. It was a little steep but hey it was a small price to pay. I am in no way skinny now but i do look a lot better. I am about average since I have a big build. I would like to get down to 168 or so. So that is my goal by january. Now, I can take it slow. It feels good not to be judged anymore. I noticed a complete difference people treat me and especially the benefits of being in good shape around women ) .

I didn't eat for about a month and a half, and then for the next month and a half i just didn't eat a lot......

It worked fine......

I lost something like 30-40 pounds - and yes it stayed off.......

Except I sat on my ass the entire summer and put back on about 15 pounds, now it's back to eating

[quotef4676883f0="tylerc"]My friend lost 80 pounds doing an 18 week liquid diet type program, if you are interested I can get more information from him.[/quotef4676883f0]

Get more details if you don't mind, I'm reading and soaking all this up so my fat ass can lose some pounds, haha.

LA Weightloss - did it to loss some extra weight for my wedding went from 139 to 124 in two weeks. It was just a eat healthy plan - cut out salt use light salt. I also didnt use too much sugar ate 3 servings of vegetable, 3 servings of fruit, 2 1/2 starches, 3 proteins (weighed my portions and didnt go overboard like 8 oz steak - cut it in half) use spray butter, dont eat canned veggie and drink 8 glasses of water and 100% fruitjuice instead of juice pumped full of artificial flavors. They got me to get their bars too but high protein bars with curb your appetite additives do the same thing

as i said anything more than 2 pounds ( at max 3 pound-4 pounds if obese) is muscle. once u lose muscle its hard to get back and if you get fat again( usually happens when on starvation diets) your going to feel like shit becuase you just lowered your resting heart rate so its going to be extra hard to lose weight the 2nd time around.

do it the right way or dont do it at all.

Oh, might I also suggest anorexia and/or bulimia? I hear those work wonders, albeit there [i3b60384a6a]is[/i3b60384a6a] a bit of a rough start.

Dmorris is right, controlling (but not stopping) your carb intake along with excercise is the way to go, I hope it works out well for you.

Btw I have a box of miracleburn if you are interested ;) lol

I love my carbs, as an Italian I'm obligated to eating a ton of carbs lol

How tall are you? height is important when determining how much weight you need to lose....

ive heard too many bad things about the atkins diet and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone. The best thing you can do for yourself is excersise. Find a sport and play it as often as you can. For whats its worth i was able to lose about 40 pounds with very little excersise (about 30 mins of skating a day) on a Lean pocket diet

Morning Cheerios

Afternoon A Lean Pocket and non fat yougurt

Dinner A leanpocket and non fat yougurt

Im 6 foot 3 and started my lean pocket diet thing on Jan 1st weighing an obese 260 pounds. shock Im currently 193 pounds shooting for 180 before jan 1st.

I'm not sure how healthy of a diet that is, but whatever works for you.

[quotec356848108="JUNIOR6886"]How tall are you? height is important when determining how much weight you need to lose....

ive heard too many bad things about the atkins diet and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone. The best thing you can do for yourself is excersise. Find a sport and play it as often as you can. For whats its worth i was able to lose about 40 pounds with very little excersise (about 30 mins of skating a day) on a Lean pocket diet

Morning Cheerios

Afternoon A Lean Pocket and non fat yougurt

Dinner A leanpocket and non fat yougurt

Im 6 foot 3 and started my lean pocket diet thing on Jan 1st weighing an obese 260 pounds. shock Im currently 193 pounds shooting for 180 before jan 1st.[/quotec356848108]

please tell me your joking. shock

arent u starving or something?

I only did that for about 2.5 months after I lost 40 pounds i hit a pleatu and stopped the lean pocket diet. Looking back im not sure how i was able to stand it for so long....

Cut the alcohol and sugars. Hit the gym. If you hate running, try the eliptical thing. I lift about 4-5 times a week and jump on the eliptical 15minutes after each work out...it really helps get your heart rate going without running out of breath or messing up your knees. Btw...i think something that could help motivate you is start a thread on here. Everyone can participate. Take a picture of yourself now, and once a month to see progress...in the end winner gets something (say $5 per participant?)...i dunno, just an idea.

With the exception of the aforementioned 20% of the population, almost everything "bad" you hear about Atkins is BS, IMO. My results speak for themselves, and 2 doctors that have checked me out agree. The majority of people speaking out against Atkins are people with a vested interest in the traditional "low-fat" approach. There are tons of clinical studies and research to backup Dr. Atkins. They thought he was a flake 25 years ago when he started the idea, but then suddenly 3-4 years ago everybody realized how well it worked, and how it shattered all the traditional ideas about dieting.

Aside from tons of research that backs up my own experience with reduced bad cholesterol, increased good (LDL) cholesterol, and lowered blood pressure, there are documented cases of diabetics who were able to come off of insulin treatment after a regimented Atkins plan. Their insulin production stabilized and they were able to manage their disease with diet. Granted that is an exception and not a rule, but it's a good example of what carbs do to your body. Then you have the obvious health benefits of (taking myself as an example) losing 65 extra pounds. I'll take any potential adverse effects of Atkins (which have yet to be shown) over being obese any day. ;)

That said, it isn't for everybody.

How many threads do we have about this roll
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=41931 roll

^ lol
lol

Fat Joe is on a diet. According to the article you can call Pistol Pete.

http//www.ozonemag.com/jul2004/text-pistolpete.html

just imagine fat joe skinny lol

anyways timberland or w/e is on a diet he looks pretty built now shiitt

dont eat junk, 3 squares a day
drink lots of water
start walking. its easiest of all excersize and works great
sleep 8 hours a night

k...I've been working the 8 hours thing...the junk needs work...the water will be done and exercise will begin.

I've decided that it's necessary for me to do this

1.) Buy a scale so I can reassure myself with measurable results.
2.) Start a blog/thread documenting my progress.

I will begin this upon my triumphant return to school on October 11!

I hope others can give me motivation (as you already did so well) while others can find inspiration in what I'm doing and can follow along or whatever.

Thank you all for your instant help. I appreciate it greatly!

[quotec253289499="nobody2000"]I'm 20, and overweight. I need to lose weight just so I can feel better about myself. Share with me what works for you guys. I'll give you some background info

-Hoodia is a load of bullshit
-A rigorous exercise pattern/routine I'd love to have so I could follow
[bc253289499]-Any wonderdrugs that I can use with exercise (excluding coke and steroids)?[/bc253289499]
-Good tasting, low calorie foods?
-Not so good tasting, but filling low calorie foods?


It's like...I'm super sexy...I really am, just I have a lot of sexiness to love, and I think that girls are overwealmed by my big, sexy body. I think that instead of intimidating them by my supersexiness, I could just stay equally as sexy, just lower my actual body's volume.

I appreciate any insight.[/quotec253289499]

You could go my way...

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Strung out on cigarettes and redline wink

Or just get some adderoll. Guaranteed to make you not eat.

There's a lot of good advice in this thread, so I'll try to add what I think hasn't been mentioned or stressed enough

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[li0d2ceba049]Muscle Training - Cardio is great for getting your metabolism going for the rest of the day (and boosting it in the long term), but once you stop doing cardio, you stop burning calories. Muscles, on the other hand, are ALWAYS burning calories, even AT REST. It's important to build up some muscle so that you continue burning calories while you're resting and sleeping.
[li0d2ceba049]Drink Water - When you're losing weight, your body is producing toxins that can only be flushed out through frequent urination. Drinking lots of water will help you stay toxin-free. Besides that, water is filling and really helps to curb your appetite when you drink before and during meals.
[li0d2ceba049]Don't Trust the Scale - In the general sense, it doesn't hurt to use a scale, but only for general reference. As you continue your workout regimen, dense muscle will be replacing the fat in your body, causing your scale to report mixed results. A better measure of your progress is to simply go by how your clothing fits (if it gets looser, you're losing weight).
[li0d2ceba049]Weightlifting Before Cardio - If you want to burn your fat reserves, you first have to burn away the glycogen in your blood. This could take anywhere from 20 - 30 minutes of cardio exercise. By doing your weightlifting first, you're burning some/all of the glycogen, making it that much easier to start burning fat during cardio.
[li0d2ceba049]Rest - You have to give your body time to recover. Usually, you should give a body part about 48 hours of rest before working it out again. Remember, most muscle-building occurs when you're resting, not when your lifting. The most muscle-building occurs when you sleep, so it's vital for you to get an adequate night's sleep to reap the benefits of all the work you're doing.
[li0d2ceba049]No Excuses - The most difficult part of getting in shape is getting past the excuses we make for ourselves. Work, personal stuff, acts of God and tons of other stuff distract you and give you a reason to say, "I'll just skip the gym today" or "I'll just have one plate of that food." It's essential to get in the mindset where you allow yourself to have no excuses, no matter what life throws at you.
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The above advice has worked fairly well for me. About 3 years ago, I dropped 30 pounds over 2 months following a modified Atkins diet I only allowed myself 30 grams of carbs per day, and 15 grams of fat. Everything else had a full gorging license. I ended up eating a grilled chicken caesar salad for lunch everyday and working out in the evenings (only 3 nights a week). It wasn't hard once I got myself to the point where I said, "Nothing, not fatigue, mood or anything else will stop me from going to the gym tonight." If you have no excuses, you have to lose weight.

On a side note I think anybody dieting should be careful with an Atkins diet. I think it's great for losing weight, but I don't think it's meant to be a lifelong dietary committment. There have been reports of high sodium levels and kidney problems for people who stick to Atkins for long periods of time (I'm talking years, not months). Use Atkins to lose weight, but don't use it for life. Once you get to a weight you like, you should simply adjust your diet for smaller portions and keep exercising for maintenance.

One acronym UPS
Since I started working there I've lost about 10#s...plus I got paid for it wink Loading 350+ packages/hr. can do that to you. If you imagine UPS loaders as huge, buff machines, think again. Everyone there is skinny.

i;m on the skinny side, but when i was in undergrad i gained weight from drinking. The alcohol goes straight to your gut too.
It sucks bc you are turning 21. i suggest getting wasted on your b-day and then calling it quits. Or just drink rarely.

Having a couple beers is pointless because it does nothing to you therefore it is a waste of calories. And to get drunk for most people is a lot of calories. So dont drink, but maybe designate one drinking day every month if you cant cut it out.

Also, my cousin substituted her breakfast and lunch with brown rice and brocolli and lost SOOO much weight. Try that.

There are little things you can do that will make you lose weight stop drinking soda soda has a lot of corn sryup that makes you hungry {makes you fat} when you have breakfast don't eat the yellow part of the egg don't eat cheese on your eggs or anything. Don't eat bacon. Don't eat junk food as in cookies chips etc. Don't eat fast food. Dont eat food with trans. Fat . Cut down on you intake of bread due to the fact that it has starches that turns into sugar don't use the sugar stored engery which equals fat. No french fries or anything that has patoaps {ooo can't spell} eat on time and eat smaller portions, have a routine exercise and at the same time every day. Or else it is not a exercise and you don't lose weight keep a food intake diary. And also watch your money go up since your not buying all these fatty foods you will have more money in the bank. And you can stay harder longer just due to the fact your blood doesn't have to travel that far

[quoted5c33aa59a="JordanE"][quoted5c33aa59a="nobody2000"]I'm 20, and overweight. I need to lose weight just so I can feel better about myself. Share with me what works for you guys. I'll give you some background info

-Hoodia is a load of bullshit
-A rigorous exercise pattern/routine I'd love to have so I could follow
[bd5c33aa59a]-Any wonderdrugs that I can use with exercise (excluding coke and steroids)?[/bd5c33aa59a]
-Good tasting, low calorie foods?
-Not so good tasting, but filling low calorie foods?


It's like...I'm super sexy...I really am, just I have a lot of sexiness to love, and I think that girls are overwealmed by my big, sexy body. I think that instead of intimidating them by my supersexiness, I could just stay equally as sexy, just lower my actual body's volume.

I appreciate any insight.[/quoted5c33aa59a]

You could go my way...

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[img="d5c33aa59a]http//www.4starhealth.com/images/Redline_Gelcaps.jpg[" alt=""/imgd5c33aa59a]

Strung out on cigarettes and redline wink[/quoted5c33aa59a]

You have got to be kidding me taking pills that's not fda approved and your not an adult your not suppose to take any of these cig. Are for people over 18 and so that thing you call red line your going to get with lung cancer and a heart attack

[quotee859fd226f="freaky1718"][quotee859fd226f="JordanE"][quotee859fd226f="nobody2000"]I'm 20, and overweight. I need to lose weight just so I can feel better about myself. Share with me what works for you guys. I'll give you some background info

-Hoodia is a load of bullshit
-A rigorous exercise pattern/routine I'd love to have so I could follow
[be859fd226f]-Any wonderdrugs that I can use with exercise (excluding coke and steroids)?[/be859fd226f]
-Good tasting, low calorie foods?
-Not so good tasting, but filling low calorie foods?


It's like...I'm super sexy...I really am, just I have a lot of sexiness to love, and I think that girls are overwealmed by my big, sexy body. I think that instead of intimidating them by my supersexiness, I could just stay equally as sexy, just lower my actual body's volume.

I appreciate any insight.[/quotee859fd226f]

You could go my way...

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[img="e859fd226f]http//www.4starhealth.com/images/Redline_Gelcaps.jpg[" alt=""/imge859fd226f]

Strung out on cigarettes and redline wink[/quotee859fd226f]

You have got to be kidding me taking pills that's not fda approved and your not an adult your not suppose to [be859fd226f]take any of these cig. Are for people over 18[/be859fd226f] and so that thing you call red line your going to get with lung cancer and a heart attack[/quotee859fd226f]

lol

[quoteffea3d952e="freaky1718"]patoaps {ooo can't spell} [/quoteffea3d952e]

???

i am not making fun of you, i seriously just want to know if this means potato?

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just a comment on your 1st post...hoodia isnt a load of bullshit

its not a miracle drug that will burn tons of fat....what it does do is curve your appetite...if you take a couple pills an hour or so b4 you eat...you will feel full fast....later on you will get hungry again.

hoodia helped shrink my stomach and get me into the routine of eating less food more frequently...

once i was in that routine...i didnt need the hoodia....

[quote543d1de7a5="Dave82"][quote543d1de7a5="freaky1718"]patoaps {ooo can't spell} [/quote543d1de7a5]

???

i am not making fun of you, i seriously just want to know if this means potato?

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lol it was like 4am when i was posting my brain was partly working

[quotee66f0b6a8b="freaky1718"][quotee66f0b6a8b="Dave82"][quotee66f0b6a8b="freaky1718"]patoaps {ooo can't spell} [/quotee66f0b6a8b]

???

i am not making fun of you, i seriously just want to know if this means potato?

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lol it was like 4am when i was posting my brain was partly working[/quotee66f0b6a8b]

haha, yea you should see my spelling in general.

Okay, i was trying to figure it out bc somone once told me that potatos are a waste to eat because the carb ratio to nutrients is poor.

[quoteddc1a9c04c="Dave82"]Okay, i was trying to figure it out bc somone once told me that potatos are a waste to eat because the carb ratio to nutrients is poor.[/quoteddc1a9c04c]
That is correct -- white potatoes have virtually no nutritional value. No vitamins and minerals to speak of, and the extremely high carb content means carbs -> sugar -> fat.

Sweet potatoes OTOH are not potatoes (they are from the carrot family), and despite their higher glycemic index, are quite healthy. Full of beta karotine and such.

[quoted1312c6485="Dave82"][quoted1312c6485="freaky1718"][quoted1312c6485="Dave82"][quoted1312c6485="freaky1718"]patoaps {ooo can't spell} [/quoted1312c6485]

???

i am not making fun of you, i seriously just want to know if this means potato?

http//i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/Dave1982p/potato.jpg[" alt=""/imgd1312c6485][/quoted1312c6485]

lol it was like 4am when i was posting my brain was partly working[/quoted1312c6485]

haha, yea you should see my spelling in general.

Okay, i was trying to figure it out bc somone once told me that potatos are a waste to eat because the carb ratio to nutrients is poor.[/quoted1312c6485]

+KARMA FOR MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS

[quote02c9f28edb="freaky1718"][quote02c9f28edb="Dave82"][quote02c9f28edb="freaky1718"][quote02c9f28edb="Dave82"][quote02c9f28edb="freaky1718"]patoaps {ooo can't spell} [/quote02c9f28edb]

???

i am not making fun of you, i seriously just want to know if this means potato?

http//i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/Dave1982p/potato.jpg[" alt=""/img02c9f28edb][/quote02c9f28edb]

lol it was like 4am when i was posting my brain was partly working[/quote02c9f28edb]

haha, yea you should see my spelling in general.

Okay, i was trying to figure it out bc somone once told me that potatos are a waste to eat because the carb ratio to nutrients is poor.[/quote02c9f28edb]

+KARMA FOR MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS[/quote02c9f28edb]


Haha, no, your post was actually correct about avoiding french fries and patoaps. See what Morris said about them ^^

[quote46d7be844f="freaky1718"]+KARMA FOR MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS[/quote46d7be844f]
+KARMA FOR LOOKING LIKE AN ASS

I eat cereal for breakfest lunch and dinner. Big bowl o cereal and it keeps me full and Im only 150 lbs ;/ Also do a lil excercise every 2 days or something and you're good to go D

[quotedd1d9bd0c2="KnightTrader"]I eat cereal for breakfest lunch and dinner. Big bowl o cereal and it keeps me full and Im only 150 lbs ;/ Also do a lil excercise every 2 days or something and you're good to go D[/quotedd1d9bd0c2]

so i guess that isnt you in your avi then???



If pretty much all you eat is cereal and milk how are you getting enough nutrients, vitamins, and protein? Milk has a lot of protein, but not enough for the whole day.

Everyone's metabolism is different, so you can't just give him your own workout schedule.

Try any diet you want, but I think a much better way to get in shape is through physical activity, particularly running. The other methods may be debatable, but running is tried and true.

[quoteb558258c34="Dave82"][quoteb558258c34="freaky1718"][quoteb558258c34="Dave82"][quoteb558258c34="freaky1718"][quoteb558258c34="Dave82"][quoteb558258c34="freaky1718"]patoaps {ooo can't spell} [/quoteb558258c34]

???

i am not making fun of you, i seriously just want to know if this means potato?

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lol it was like 4am when i was posting my brain was partly working[/quoteb558258c34]

haha, yea you should see my spelling in general.

Okay, i was trying to figure it out bc somone once told me that potatos are a waste to eat because the carb ratio to nutrients is poor.[/quoteb558258c34]

+KARMA FOR MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS[/quoteb558258c34]


Haha, no, your post was actually correct about avoiding french fries and patoaps. See what Morris said about them ^^[/quoteb558258c34]

the spelling man the spelling

ok, it is the eve of my new dietary life....I'm going to prepare a new thread i think....so if anyone gives half a shit and wants to gimme some motivation, I'll be very receptive.

[quote0f379c3c30="freaky1718"][quote0f379c3c30="Dave82"][quote0f379c3c30="freaky1718"]

+KARMA FOR MAKING ME LOOK LIKE AN ASS[/quote0f379c3c30]


Haha, no, your post was actually correct about avoiding french fries and patoaps. See what Morris said about them ^^[/quote0f379c3c30]

the spelling man the spelling[/quote0f379c3c30]

i know, i was trying to be nice D




I am surprised no one has really gone into the time of eating as in not eating and then going to bed. Or isnt it "dont eat within 4 hours of sleeping" or something?

My advice is dont eat while watching TV. I see people do that and think it is the worst mental habit you can build. Do crunches while watching tv. And in commercials hit the treadmill hardcore.


or [b0f379c3c30]JUMP ROPE[/b0f379c3c30]. That is a great way to get in shape. It sounds sissy, but go to walmart, get a jump rope and try doing it moderate pace for 20 mins. It is tougher than you think.

Dont starve yourself with 500 calories, because when you gain it back it will be worse. Lowering your cal intake is a quick fix that isnt really a fix.

Running is good. In the long run it is bad for the knees they say. Eliptical is better for you.

[quotea36ffd3916="nobody2000"]ok, it is the eve of my new dietary life....I'm going to prepare a new thread i think....so if anyone gives half a shit and wants to gimme some motivation, I'll be very receptive.[/quotea36ffd3916]


What is your situation? Do you go to college and have access to a gym? What about time-wise? Work? Credits?

I am a Biology major with a concentration in biomedical studies. I have a second major in mathematics. I am president of my class, and I'm VP of the college republicans and SIFE. I take 16 credits this year with one 2 credit hard ass class and 2 labs. I have full access to the gym, but only at night b/c I work 7-9 at the security office and I ahve class until 130.

Running will get rid of fat and built muscles in your legs, whereas things like crunches or pushups will only built muscle under the fat.

Also, you only need like half an hour a day to run, at least at first (that includes stretching and cooling down).

And you will actually enjoy running after a few weeks. And you'll be able to continue to eat what you want (or at least not have to watch every single thing you eat).

So I would still suggest running. There are just so many more benefits to that than to anything else.

ilanbg, running is great... for some people. Not so much for others. Many doctors and trainers recommend against it, as it's high-impact and hard on the joints -- especially for somebody already overweight. ;)

As far as cardio workouts go, there are other more highly recommended methods that are less harsh on your body.

That said, when I was in the Army I learned to love running. Hated it at first, but since you run your arse off anyway, you either learn to love it or just be miserable all the time. ) However I don't think I could take up running again now if I wanted to, at least not without months of low- to medium-impact exercise to build back up to it.

I plan on doing some elliptical....mainly because the treadmills at the gym are always taken. I don't always use my hands and hang on the bars, which make the exercise less effective IMO.


Anyway, update for today

I woke up at 6, had a breakfast of a small bowl of Count Chocula (I know what you're thinking, it's junk food, but net calories are fewer in this than in total, and I have eaten so much total in the past year, I'm sick of it).

I drank about a liter of water, and went to lunch and had 2 chicken tacos (low fat I assume), a salad with a tablespoon of dressing, and some coleslaw with a 12 oz. glass of crystal light.

I drank about 2 liters of water before dinner as I was starving and had 3 small pieces of pizza (for a security dispatcher meeting), and 3 wings, washed down with about 16oz of diet coke.
Right now I'm sucking down another water before doing some work. Not gonna find time to run tonite. Gotta plan my european field period.

[quoted3740a04ab="dmorris68"]ilanbg, running is great... for some people. Not so much for others. Many doctors and trainers recommend against it, as it's high-impact and hard on the joints -- especially for somebody already overweight. ;)[/quoted3740a04ab]

Hmm, good point. I was going to suggest swimming but I didn't think he'd have time. In either case, swimming is not as harsh on the body, if you can manage it.

And if you can run on an area that has grass rather than concrete, it will lesson the shock. And of course good shoes. And learning how to run in a way that minimizes shock.


Another thing A lot of your weight is made up of water, so try to cut down on that. And just about all other drinks are bad for you, so just stop ingesting liquids altogether and you should get some quick results.

If you have a meal plan at school, try having a salad before every meal to partially fill you up with good stuff.

I'm not trying to suck weight, I'm just trying to lose some fat...I don't care if I lose weight slowly and it's water weight.

Swimming is awesome, when I had time, I used to swim .75 miles a day, eventually building up to a full mile in my pool (more like 2000m). the thing about swimming is that switching up strokes I don't do like I should and I'm working out the same 2 arms and 2 legs doing a forward stroke.

As opposed to your other two arms and legs? wink

As a muscle-enhancement it may not be very good, but it's a cardiovascular activity so it will burn lots of calories, which is what you want for weight loss.

Also biking is another good activity, provided you challenge yourself continuously (don't just use the momentum of the bike).

lifting weights burns more than cardio because having more muscle burns fat faster than anything

well the good thing about weight lifting is that if you lift weights, you burn fat, and then once you build muscle, it will take energy by burning fat on it's own.

Muscle weighs more than fat, so if he's trying to lose weight gaining muscle is not the answer.

Plus, ten minutes of weight lifting may burn more calories than ten minutes of biking, but can you lift weights for an hour? Or even half an hour?

he is trying to lose fat

losing weight is for people weighing in for a boxing match

im in the gym at least 90 minutes-120 minutes i know people who are in there 2 plus hours non stop

and gaining muscle is the answer period

Yeah, but are you lifting weights for 90-2 hour periods non-stop? Most of that time is probably spend resting and whatnot.

To be honest, a combination of running/cardio and weight lifting is probably the best solution, but if you have the choice between only one, I would still say cardio.

u need at least 30 seconds resting between sets.

i do advise both cardio and weight lifting but when you look at it weight lifting does what cardio does and it gives you a more "hard" look.

Another thing that should be considered is that it's much easier to injure oneself with weights.

well thats just part of life.

you can injure your knees with running alot when your overweight.

you could fall off a treadmill and die for all i know things happen you gotta live with them.

I'm not trying to put down weight lifting; I use weights as well. I just know that when I was inexperienced when it came to getting in shape, I injured myself a lot more often with weights than I did with running.

well

form is more important than how much weight you lift.

master your form when lifting and you wont get injured.

having the right form makes the difference.

i always see these thick necks at the gym lifting weights incorrectly. You can really damage yourself from that. Slow and controlled motions are safer than "speed lifting" as i see some of them doing. They may be fine now, but it catches up to you.

[quotec2534f6b37]And you can stay harder longer just due to the fact your blood doesn't have to travel that far[/quotec2534f6b37]
hahaha

anyway, this thread has inspired me to get back into excercising more.
My house mates and I used to lift weights and jog every now and then but we just kind of stopped.
We would do this pyramid style bench press workout that worked pretty well http//www.strengthcats.com/pyramidpower.htm
Although we would just do the first half...up to 100%, then we'd finish off with doing as many 50% as we could

I'm 5'5" and i weight about....180, i'm going to see how long it takes me to lose 20 lbs. (ie. how long it takes until my stomach stops jiggling when i brush my teeth....thank you kevin james)

speaking from experience there is a ton of terrible advice in this thread.

what you really need is a lifestyle change and to take care of yourself, which i know can be almost impossible to do with a full life.

you need to get atleast that hour of exercise per day, with maybe one rest day. alternate the cardio and weights.

and you need to change the way you eat, not go on a diet to lose some weight on a scale, that you will just gain back again.

its actually simple to just eat clean to feed your body.


the body for life program seriously saved my life, its simple and makes sense and helped me as a newbie to the whole thing, because it can be so hard to find out what to do with all the shitty supplements and magazines they try and sell.

so buy the book for like 30, read it and follow the plan. you will be feeding and exercising your body for good health, and hopefully you can just let the food thing go, it will be your new routine in life.

the book by tom venuto burn the fat feed the muscle is alot better than body for life program( in my opinion) but its not knocking body for life program becuase it does work!!

also ud 2.0 is a good read when your more advanced

here is tom at like 3 percent body fat

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[img="491e0ab4ad]http//bodysublime.com" alt=""/img/Abs.JPG[/img491e0ab4ad]

buy the book at http//www.burnthefat.com/?hop=tomvenuto

or shoot me a pm and if i like you ill shoot you the ebook )

watch this .movurl==http://=http:///url

http//www.johnstonefitness.com/images/1year.mov

it will motivate you, that's for sure

then visit http//www.johnstonefitness.com/ to see his workout regimen and food logs

im pretty sure john is now on steroids.

or has been within the last year or so.

motivating yes ill give him that he changed his life and is becoming pretty beast

bump... this thread died.

If it died, there's no need to bump it.

sure there is its informative

K update...

I went for a run the other day, yes I was drunk, but it was a bit of a sendoff drunkenness....I went streaking through the dorm, by myself, as a part of a bet I lost. I got caught and I feel the college is gonna be a bunch of dicks about it.

Anyway...I have given up alcohol as a result of this.

I have been sore since I worked out on thursday. Too sore to run, too sore to lift. I'm going back tomorrow to work on lower body muscles and then I'm alternating days, taking one or 2 days off a week to let my muscle fibers heal and grow.

I got the support of one of my roommates and one of my hallmates. We're going together to the gym and kicking ass and taking names. I'm gonna get a scale as a mere progress indicator suggestion.

I've avoided the sweets and the later night snacks. I grab caffeine only on occasion. I know the importance of sleep to stay healthy and fit, and I'm trying to get back on that schedule (even if I've had 12 hours of sleep total over the last 3 nites).

I'm doing good...Thanks for everyone's help...I'm gonna keep updating!

Anyone have tips on devising an eating plan for a low carb diet? I want to drop like 50lbs, as fast as I can and I remember dmorris mentioning he lost some weight pretty quickly on a low carb diet.

I just need some ideas on what kind of foods to buy and eat on a daily basis, and I'm sure I can cut out all the bad stuff myself but I just need ideas on foods that'll help best.

buy the atkins or south beach BOOK (hell or get credit for doing the south beach offer) they work if you have the willpower to stay away from carb-filled sweets.

but remember, since you are lifting, weight is not a good indicator of progress. You can actually gain weight but be less inches.

Some scales now the percentage of body fat indicators. I do not know how accurrate they are, but i assume it would give you some indication.

Go to Target.com and type in a search for "body fat" and the scales should show up. You can get one for around $30.

Sorry to hear about your streaking troubles. When they make you have a meeting with the resident advisor or whatever just explain them that you made a stupid mistake. Offer to make a bulletin in the dorm about alcohol accident statistics or give some sort of alcohol related presentation to your dorm. Maybe that will give you a lesser punishment.

dont trust body fat scales get body fat calipers there like 10 bucks.

[quote87a46e99d1="kidd2108"][quote87a46e99d1="JUNIOR6886"]How tall are you? height is important when determining how much weight you need to lose....

ive heard too many bad things about the atkins diet and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone. The best thing you can do for yourself is excersise. Find a sport and play it as often as you can. For whats its worth i was able to lose about 40 pounds with very little excersise (about 30 mins of skating a day) on a Lean pocket diet

Morning Cheerios

Afternoon A Lean Pocket and non fat yougurt

Dinner A leanpocket and non fat yougurt

Im 6 foot 3 and started my lean pocket diet thing on Jan 1st weighing an obese 260 pounds. shock Im currently 193 pounds shooting for 180 before jan 1st.[/quote87a46e99d1]

please tell me your joking. shock

arent u starving or something?[/quote87a46e99d1]

Its killer at first..... no fucking joke. But you get used to it after a little while. D The first few pounds came off like lightining on that diet. shock I eat a much more varied diet now....
BTW AS OF THIS MORNING IM 192. D

I'm currently 6'0" and 160lbs, I'm almost very healthy and I'm just trying to find a way to lose that tiny bit of belly fat that covers my ab muscles...So my question is this What are some really, really effective ab workouts and should I run before or after I weight lift?

[quotefbba7dfef0="MyungChunHa"]I'm currently 6'0" and 160lbs, I'm almost very healthy and I'm just trying to find a way to lose that tiny bit of belly fat that covers my ab muscles...So my question is this What are some really, really effective ab workouts and should I run before or after I weight lift?[/quotefbba7dfef0]

Just a question Do you drink "a lot"?

I am skinny as eff, but freshman year i drank and developed a bit of belly fat. It looked really strange. When i stoppped drinking every weekend, it went away in a month.

If that isnt the case, i always hear crunches paired with running. For some reason people say that crunches and sit-ups alone do not work, they have to be paired with running. I dont know if that's true or not.
shrug

[quote34297f62aa="Dave82"][quote34297f62aa="MyungChunHa"]I'm currently 6'0" and 160lbs, I'm almost very healthy and I'm just trying to find a way to lose that tiny bit of belly fat that covers my ab muscles...So my question is this What are some really, really effective ab workouts and should I run before or after I weight lift?[/quote34297f62aa]

Just a question Do you drink "a lot"?

I am skinny as eff, but freshman year i drank and a bit of belly fat. It looked really strange. When i stoppped drinking every weekend, it went away in a month.

If that isnt the case, i always hear crunches paired with running. For some reason people say that crunches and sit-ups alone do not work, they have to be paired with running. I dont know if that's true or not.
shrug[/quote34297f62aa]
Actually, I hate drinking and used to do it alot but not anymore....

I don't have a large gut by ANY means, I'm actually very skinny and pretty muscular, it's just a small bit of belly fat and you can't see any abs...

Crunches are good but I know there are WAY better ab workouts than that, cruches are about as basic as you can get...I currently run everyday and I go to the gym every other day, but I still have this little bit of belly fat...I'm thinking if someone could turn me on to better ab workouts, then I would get them in no time, plus I want to know when the best time to do cardio is, so I can get the best results...

[quote898004be61="MyungChunHa"]I don't have a large gut by ANY means, I'm actually very skinny and pretty muscular, it's just a small bit of belly fat and you can't see any abs...[/quote898004be61]

I know exactly what you mean, i had the same thing. Sometimes people suggest cutting excess sugar out of your diet. Not to sound like a woman, but sugar goes straight to the stomach area. Actually i dont know if that's true or even possible for sugar to "target" a certain area, but i have observed though that when men and women eat more sugar (Halloween!!) it starts to pouch a little.


edit and also when they drinkk alcohol. But isnt alcohol complex sugars or something??

depending on the alcohol your going to be very bloated after eating carbs(beer has ton unless you go for a more light beer) every 1 gram of carbs = 10 grams of water your body holds onto the next day.

unless your under 10 percent body fat or have godly genetics you wont see abs at all.

[quoteb8e955a697="JUNIOR6886"][quoteb8e955a697="kidd2108"][quoteb8e955a697="JUNIOR6886"]How tall are you? height is important when determining how much weight you need to lose....

ive heard too many bad things about the atkins diet and i wouldnt recommend it to anyone. The best thing you can do for yourself is excersise. Find a sport and play it as often as you can. For whats its worth i was able to lose about 40 pounds with very little excersise (about 30 mins of skating a day) on a Lean pocket diet

Morning Cheerios

Afternoon A Lean Pocket and non fat yougurt

Dinner A leanpocket and non fat yougurt

Im 6 foot 3 and started my lean pocket diet thing on Jan 1st weighing an obese 260 pounds. shock Im currently 193 pounds shooting for 180 before jan 1st.[/quoteb8e955a697]

please tell me your joking. shock

arent u starving or something?[/quoteb8e955a697]

Its killer at first..... no fucking joke. But you get used to it after a little while. D The first few pounds came off like lightining on that diet. shock I eat a much more varied diet now....
BTW AS OF THIS MORNING IM 192. D[/quoteb8e955a697]

191 as of this morning...... 11 pounds left to go shock
yesterday i wanted to see if i could handle going all day with absolutely no food, i thought id go out of my mind with hunger but it ended up being easy as fuck ? i dont recommend anyone else do this though.... it was just a one day thing as a test.

steroids ??? R U crazy ? your penis will be smaller after steroids !

I'm Thinkin Some Tweek homie IDK about u sayin Coke B that yayo wont make u lose weight unless u do it A LOT! but tha some dat meth will.........

[quote3d90a9cff9="KingBlood"]I'm Thinkin Some Tweek homie IDK about u sayin Coke B that yayo wont make u lose weight unless u do it A LOT! but tha some dat meth will.........[/quote3d90a9cff9]

For sure, homie.

Word.

Off the chain.

For Real.

[quote1ab93ab088="tylerc"][quote1ab93ab088="KingBlood"]I'm Thinkin Some Tweek homie IDK about u sayin Coke B that yayo wont make u lose weight unless u do it A LOT! but tha some dat meth will.........[/quote1ab93ab088]

For sure, homie.

Word.

Off the chain.

For Real.[/quote1ab93ab088]

haha quit bein a lil hater I was J/K bout them Drugz... But fa real I just reccomend get a pass to Gold's Gym!

who is this clown posting in this thread it has to be a joke right homie g ?

[quote96999be9be="Kidd"]who is this clown posting in this thread it has to be a joke right homie g ?[/quote96999be9be]

Word.

Bling bling.

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lol lol

Sweet really really long post.

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well i'm just taking whey protein isolate right now...wanna work on defining more and building a six-pack

what would you recommend?

your lactose intolerant?

i like optimum nutrition whey its cheap but isnt pure wpi

for pure wpi i reccomend syntrax nectar,

How's the progess going?

[quote85d7136404="Kidd"]your lactose intolerant?

i like optimum nutrition whey its cheap but isnt pure wpi

for pure wpi i reccomend syntrax nectar,[/quote85d7136404]

I use that too, FYI the best deal I found was from DPSnutrition.com

shipping is cheap there, so it beats a lot of the other sites that claim to beat any other sites price.

Also I called my local GNC and convinced the manager to price match the DPS price and discount me the tax.