hdtv questions

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zdub08

10-09-2006 15:50:58

I've been checking out tv's lately, and I have a couple questions about resolution. It seems like 37" is the cut off for 1080p. Would the extra cash for a 1080p 37" tv really be worth it for that size? Also, at what size would I really be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, making it really worth it to spend more?

dmorris68

10-09-2006 17:04:50

IMO opinion it is well worth it, however you may not agree.

Although there aren't many (if any) 1080p HD sources out on the market yet, and most current generation 1080p sets will still only accept 1080i max anyway, they will deinterlace 1080i and show a full 1080 pixels. As opposed to a 1080i set which only has 720 physical pixels, 1080p will look quite a bit better than 720p/1080i. Not like "OMG!" earth shattering or anything, but still better enough to warrant the upgrade.

Also, if the TV has a PC input (VGA or DVI) and you intend to use it, then you can take advantage of the increased resolution as well, which is significantly better.

h3x

10-09-2006 17:08:45

[quoted52880265f="dmorris68"]IMO opinion it is well worth it, however you may not agree.

Although there aren't many (if any) 1080p HD sources out on the market yet, and most current generation 1080p sets will still only accept 1080i max anyway, they will deinterlace 1080i and show a full 1080 pixels. As opposed to a 1080i set which only has 720 physical pixels, 1080p will look quite a bit better than 720p/1080i. Not like "OMG!" earth shattering or anything, but still better enough to warrant the upgrade.

Also, if the TV has a PC input (VGA or DVI) and you intend to use it, then you can take advantage of the increased resolution as well, which is significantly better.[/quoted52880265f]

But you said it yourself... There aren't many (if any) 1080p sources yet...

So all in all, its not worth getting..... "yet".

Wait until BD/HD-DVD and 1080p broadcasts are the norm... Then that wo uld be the time to get one... Also, by that time; prices are going to drop... So there's really no need to rush to the store and buy one now.

If you GOTTA have HDTV... Just get yourself a 720p/1080i HDTV...

dmorris68

10-09-2006 18:25:47

[quote9923a998b5="h3x"]But you said it yourself... There aren't many (if any) 1080p sources yet...

So all in all, its not worth getting..... "yet".[/quote9923a998b5]
Yes, but if you'll notice, I also said that 1080i upconverted to 1080p looks almost as good as 1080p native. So it is worth it if image quality is that important to you. It's just a matter of if you're willing to pay extra for it. It's a personal decision, not a blanket one that applies to everybody. That's why I said "IMO, it's well worth it, however you may not agree." ;)

On a 1080i set, only 720 pixels are displayed at a time, requiring 2 frames to paint the whole image. With a 1080p set, the image is deinterlaced and all 1080 pixels of data are displayed in a single frame. So even with a 1080i input source, a 1080p set will produce a better image than a 1080i set.

And then of course you have the PC input benefits, as I already mentioned. You cannot display 1080 (or 1024) vertical resolutions on a 720p/1080i set because there are only 720 physical pixels. On a 1080p set you can display a much higher resolution.

hairyferry

10-09-2006 18:44:15

Dmorris to the rescue again... I picture Dmorris as the guy on PBS, the homework Hotline guy, the guy that knows everything....

bonehead848

10-09-2006 19:01:10

your viewing distance would have to be pretty small to notice the difference between 1080p and 720p on a 37 inch.

zdub08

10-09-2006 19:43:21

thanks dmorris

+kma

even though you already have 150 roll

dmorris68

10-09-2006 21:09:22

[quote5f92c4b887="bonehead848"]your viewing distance would have to be pretty small to notice the difference between 1080p and 720p on a 37 inch.[/quote5f92c4b887]
Now that I do agree with, at least as far as HDTV goes. PC desktop would be another matter, however.

zdub08

10-09-2006 22:37:48

[quotef6473db0d5="dmorris68"][quotef6473db0d5="bonehead848"]your viewing distance would have to be pretty small to notice the difference between 1080p and 720p on a 37 inch.[/quotef6473db0d5]
Now that I do agree with, at least as far as HDTV goes. PC desktop would be another matter, however.[/quotef6473db0d5]
could i easily read text from a pc on a 37" 1080p?

dmorris68

11-09-2006 05:56:17

[quoteb2f1421fe5="zdub08"][quoteb2f1421fe5="dmorris68"][quoteb2f1421fe5="bonehead848"]your viewing distance would have to be pretty small to notice the difference between 1080p and 720p on a 37 inch.[/quoteb2f1421fe5]
Now that I do agree with, at least as far as HDTV goes. PC desktop would be another matter, however.[/quoteb2f1421fe5]
could i easily read text from a pc on a 37" 1080p?[/quoteb2f1421fe5]
Using the VGA/DVI input and getting 1024 vertical resolution, yes it should be quite readable. It will be much MUCH better looking than the old analog S-Video connections that top out at 400p.

You may need a tool like Powerstrip to work out the best timings, however, as not all TV's report proper EDDI information to the video card and/or not all video card drivers natively support 16x9 TV resolutions. Powerstrip will open up those extra timings and resolutions in most cases.