A better LCD monitor that I can get instead of mine?

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BD2006BD

09-09-2006 21:22:15

I bought my Planar PE1900 (997-2927-00) monitor over a year ago. It came with my dell PC in a package over ebay. I didn't think that this was a super-good monitor, just good enough. Now I look on froogle and stuff and this thing retails for like $360? Can I sell this on ebay or amazon or something and get a better monitor for cheaper and get some cash? Any sugguestions? Will this thing even sell for much? It is in new condition.

Akademikz

09-09-2006 21:25:53

It's a discontinued model, so you're lucky if you'll fetch anywhere near what it's expected price tag was, but you could give it a shot I suppose. I was briefly looking over the specs and it didn't look too ellaborate to me, so I can't understand why it's so expensive.

Tsmith10803

09-09-2006 21:40:04

You should get the monieter I got from LCDs.yourgiftsfree, it's a 19 inch Viewsonic Gaming Moniter with a 2ms response time, it's awesome, and my 360 looks amazing on it! Just google Viewsonic 19 inch 2ms LCD and you'll get it...costs about 260 on newegg I think

dmorris68

10-09-2006 08:14:48

[quoteafcb089396="Tsmith10803"]You should get the monieter I got from LCDs.yourgiftsfree, it's a 19 inch Viewsonic Gaming Moniter with a 2ms response time, it's awesome, and my 360 looks amazing on it! Just google Viewsonic 19 inch 2ms LCD and you'll get it...costs about 260 on newegg I think[/quoteafcb089396]
If you don't care about it being a 6-bit monitor. ;)

Personally I prefer a slower 8-16ms 8-bit panel myself. You don't need 2ms for a gaming monitor. Any [iafcb089396]quality[/iafcb089396] panel of 16ms or less will not ghost or smear, while lots of so-called fast "gaming" monitors look really mediocre. People pay way too much attention to response times when it doesn't mean a whole lot between different panels, because it's measured entirely differently between manufacturers. I'll put the image quality of a 16ms Dell 2001FP up against any 6-bit 2ms gaming monitor any day.

But lots of folks are happy with 6-bit color depths, and the manufacturers recognize the market fetish for fast response times, so the sales are good. More power to them. )

Tsmith10803

10-09-2006 15:16:17

[quote4e7fb5c076="dmorris68"][quote4e7fb5c076="Tsmith10803"]You should get the monieter I got from LCDs.yourgiftsfree, it's a 19 inch Viewsonic Gaming Moniter with a 2ms response time, it's awesome, and my 360 looks amazing on it! Just google Viewsonic 19 inch 2ms LCD and you'll get it...costs about 260 on newegg I think[/quote4e7fb5c076]
If you don't care about it being a 6-bit monitor. ;)

Personally I prefer a slower 8-16ms 8-bit panel myself. You don't need 2ms for a gaming monitor. Any [i4e7fb5c076]quality[/i4e7fb5c076] panel of 16ms or less will not ghost or smear, while lots of so-called fast "gaming" monitors look really mediocre. People pay way too much attention to response times when it doesn't mean a whole lot between different panels, because it's measured entirely differently between manufacturers. I'll put the image quality of a 16ms Dell 2001FP up against any 6-bit 2ms gaming monitor any day.

But lots of folks are happy with 6-bit color depths, and the manufacturers recognize the market fetish for fast response times, so the sales are good. More power to them. )[/quote4e7fb5c076]

That's your opinion. Mine is that it's a great moniter, and the 6-bit looks nice. Lol

BD2006BD

11-09-2006 17:25:52

If any of these 2 sell for high I will look into something, is there a better monitor I can get for around $200?

http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140026292780&ssPageName=STRKMEWAIT&ih=004


http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270010961466&ssPageName=STRKMEWAIT&ih=017

dmorris68

11-09-2006 17:56:50

Acer has some pretty good 8-bit panels that typically sell in the $200 price range. You can find 6-bit panels even cheaper if you don't mind that. Acer is a good budget brand. I see the 1951C model is going for $234 shipped from PageComputer. It's a 4ms model with DVI and suprisingly (for a 4ms monitor) claims to be an 8-bit monitor according to those specs at PriceGrabber. You can get the VGA-only 8ms models like the 1916 for right around $200, but they may be 6-bit panels (I don't recall and the specs don't indicate color depth).

http//www.pricegrabber.com/p__Acer_AL1951C_Silver_Black_19_LCD_Monitor,__17003444/search=acer+19%2522+lcd

BD2006BD

11-09-2006 18:06:46

thanks.. i'll look into that. And that model includes built-in speakers. How do I tell if they are 6 or 8 bit panels? I am looking and can't seem to find thoes specs. Also is there going to be that big of a difference in the 2?

dmorris68

11-09-2006 18:24:02

[quote39c4ee79c1="BD2006BD"]thanks.. i'll look into that. And that model includes built-in speakers. How do I tell if they are 6 or 8 bit panels? I am looking and can't seem to find thoes specs. Also is there going to be that big of a difference in the 2?[/quote39c4ee79c1]
8-bit panels have a 16.7M color depth, and will sometimes say "24-bit" which is the total of three 8-bit color values. 6-bit panels will say 16.2M colors, which in reality means there are only 262,000 true colors, the rest are simulated by either dithering or "flickering" which produces crap for smooth gradients and such in photo work.

If all you do is basic desktop work and gaming, you might not care. If you care at all about color purity in photo work, or even some games that have really smooth, hi-res textures, then you probably won't like 6-bit. Once you learn to tell the difference, it's hard to like a 6-bit panel.

The price difference is negligible. 6-bit panels will operate faster which is why most of your uber-fast "gaming" monitors are 6-bit, but I'm telling you unless you have super-sensitive bionic eyes, you [b39c4ee79c1]will not[/b39c4ee79c1] see a performance difference between a 2-4ms panel, and a quality 8-16ms panel. However you will (if you know what to look for) see a difference between 6-bit and 8-bit color depths. I'd almost certainly opt for a slightly slower 8-bit panel over a faster 6-bit panel, but ultimately it's a subjective decision.

In the case of that Acer 1951, if the specs are accurate, it's an 8-bit 4ms panel which I didn't even know existed yet, so best of both worlds. I just Googled a bit for the 1951, and see that it is reported as an 8-bit panel elsewhere as well, so it looks like an excellent monitor for that price. DVI, 400-nit brightness, 7001 contrast ratio, 4ms response time, AND an 8-bit color depth? If I were looking for a 19" to buy, I'd go for it myself. ;)

BTW built-in LCD speakers are universally crap, so I wouldn't even count them in my criteria for deciding on a monitor. But if you don't play games or music and only want them for Windows' built-in beeps and squeaks, then I suppose it's convenient.

Akademikz

11-09-2006 18:26:51

Every forum has one super intelligent and helpful guy like you, eh?

unknown uchiha

11-09-2006 18:35:54

[quotea1e9ca19d7="Akademikz"]Every forum has one super intelligent and helpful guy like you, eh?[/quotea1e9ca19d7]

No, only this forum. The other ones have Wikipedia copypastas.

BD2006BD

11-09-2006 19:35:32

thanks a lot.. seems like you really know your stuff. Thanks for all of the info! + Karma for you AGAIN!

Bentley

11-09-2006 23:55:35

I won a 37" LCD TV (says you can use it as a monitor too) off the dell promotion. It retails at $2,000, Ill sell it to u =)