Big News....

Well....I guess I will put this in a clean, simple manner My girlfriend of 5 years is pregnant. And beside the fact of being scared shitless, I am really excited. I know this is a big change for me (because of all the partying and drugs I used to do) but I feel this is a sign to grow up, and be a man.

My girlfriend is really excited, and right now she is baby clothes shopping with her mom. Keep in mind my girlfriend is just 6 weeks pregnant. Both of our parents know, and both of our parents are really excited and have offered money, time, and anything else they can give us.

We are already on Medicaid, which pays for 100% of everything except the delivery, and we are on WIC, which will give us food vouchers until the baby is 5 years old.

On a side note Her mom is a twin and my father is a twin. So there is a 1 in 6 chance, that we will have twins as well.

Any help / advice is greatly appreciated.

Her due date is April 24, and for me, who loves to smoke weed-- I thought it was pretty funny that it was so close to 4/20.

wow congrats, you usually don't hear stories where both parents are excited about this especially at that age.

Congrats man, I've never had a kid so I'm not sure I can offer any advice but I can give my best of luck to ya....Sounds like you got things organized too, which is a huge, huge plus...Just keep your head up high, because I know times are going to get a little bumpy, and I bet it'll be a fun experience...

well congrats, i'm glad you are glad about it! I don't think i'd be as excited if my GF got pregnate, not for a few years anyways, but congratulations!

Congrats on the impending birth. I wonder why you need to be on Medicaid and WIC though? Are you and your girlfriend unable to work due to Katrina? I thought WIC was meant for women and babies at-risk for lacking nutrition?

I only hope for the best for you, but I can't say as I'm excited. I see less of my money at the end of the day so I can pay for other people to have kids, while my wife and I are waiting to have ours until we can support one comfortably.

Kids when you aren't ready and don't have money shrug Congrats but you need to start working overtime now so you can have extra money...

Already ahead of you...working 2 jobs now and trying to study for my A+ certification.

A baby at 19? thats about the worst thing that can happen to you. I guess its a good thing you're taking it so well. shock

Id probably be asking for a dna test and the washing myself with emo soap

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[quote43157ef036="JUNIOR6886"]
Id probably be asking for a dna test and the washing myself with emo soap

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rofl +kma i dont know where you're getting those images but keep them coming.

yeah, I would definitely be using the emo soup. No way in hell I would want to raise a kid on food vouchers. That is just plain fucked up for the kid.

[quote2866106cf5="Gigante"]yeah, I would definitely be using the emo soup.[/quote2866106cf5]

LOL I read this before seeing emo soap and was like wtf is emo soup...just a typo...or not...

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If you had only talked to PNAA, he could've hooked you up bro!

Seriously condoms aren't expensive at all. If they seem expensive to you, then buy in bulk, I got 50 of slickdeals for $7. If you look at what you are risking it is so not worth it.

esstimated cost of raising a child through college, from BabyCenter.com

$433,576

If you need some help picking up some extra cash though, pm me I'll try and help you as best I can.

I did use a condom....thank you very much.

By the way, thank you for informing me that it cost money to raise a kid, I know this.

And thank you the emo soap, you are very kind-- I tell you I am going to have a kid, you tell me to kill myself, maybe everyone here IS an asshole.

Congrats I guess, but was she on birth control? If you were wearing a condom why wouldn't you pull out, seems kind of pointless not to.

[quotea815ba4a30="TryinToGetPaid"]I did use a condom....thank you very much.

By the way, thank you for informing me that it cost money to raise a kid, I know this.

And thank you the emo soap, you are very kind-- I tell you I am going to have a kid, you tell me to kill myself, maybe everyone here IS an asshole.[/quotea815ba4a30]

Yeah dude I thought most of the people were rude and talked out of their assholes to make themselves feel high and mighty. Congrats on the kid, always keep that positive attitude and try your best; things will work out. The thing that would kill me the most in your position is having to stop smoking. cry

Now I am getting sex advice?

I had a condom on, and the other thousands of times I have used a condom, it has never broke or tore-- but shit happens.

[quote686070eb16="JUNIOR6886"]A baby at 19? thats about the worst thing that can happen to you. I guess its a good thing you're taking it so well. shock

Id probably be asking for a dna test and the washing myself with emo soap

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That is some funny shit.

I can't see why your/her parents are happy but congrats. Her parents must be really cool. One of my freinds just had a baby a couple of months ago and when his girl told her parents about the pregnancy, they kicked her out and they haven't talked since.

That sucks for her.

My parents have already started to think about building a new house with a section for the baby.

[quoteda0a5760dd="TryinToGetPaid"]That sucks for her.

My parents have already started to think about building a new house with a section for the baby.[/quoteda0a5760dd]

damn you people got some money

are you planning on getting married anytime? ;)

[quote045ca751d4="TryinToGetPaid"]I did use a condom....thank you very much.

By the way, thank you for informing me that it cost money to raise a kid, I know this.

And thank you the emo soap, you are very kind-- I tell you I am going to have a kid, you tell me to kill myself, maybe everyone here IS an asshole.[/quote045ca751d4]

I said I would use emo soap if i was in your situation
im not sayings that what YOU should do.

I dont mean to be a dick but think about it. You're 19 and your youth
is gone.... all you have left to look foward to is smelly diapers, working
2 jobs and WIC vouchers.

I almost forgot the joy of parenthood roll
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You have to grow up sometime

Congratulations... But I know you're not going to be saying that a year from now... and to be honest, you two don't sound like good parents.. You openly admit that you pop pills and do hardcore drugs. (Oh.. NOW the signature bar is gone roll)

I'm seriously concerned about the welfare of your child.. Unless you expect to have your parents raise the baby up for you. Which is pretty reckless and irresponsible in my opinion.

... or maybe you're just trying to pull a fast one on us about the whole baby situation... who knows? shrug

Regardless, I hope you know what you're doing.. Because from the sounds of it... You have no fucking clue.

Why not have an abortion. Costs like $500.

My gf is on the pill and I always get in fights with her because I want to make sure she is taking it. Don't trust any woman. All I know is, goodbye if she gets preg

That's even more reckless and irresponsible.

[quotef457197375="h3x"]That's even more reckless and irresponsible.[/quotef457197375]

Abortion or the pill

[quotec98df5fdd4="ffactoryxx"][quotec98df5fdd4="h3x"]That's even more reckless and irresponsible.[/quotec98df5fdd4]

Abortion or the pill[/quotec98df5fdd4]

Abortion.

Who would abort a baby? Especially if you created it, it is HALF of you-- I do not see how you could do that.

And if you would leave your girlfriend if she got pregnant, you must not really care about this girl at all.

[quote28dbdc5eb1="h3x"]Congratulations... But I know you're not going to be saying that a year from now... and to be honest, you two don't sound like good parents.. You openly admit that you pop pills and do hardcore drugs. (Oh.. NOW the signature bar is gone roll)[/quote28dbdc5eb1]

I know the first thing i did after I read this was un X his signature to see if the hardcore drug bar was still there

I hope none of the drugs you used when you got your girlfriend pregnant, are going to affect your child.

Did you consider giving the baby up for adoption?

Umm, for the past 2 months, all I have done is smoked weed. It will not affect the baby.

And adoption is expensive, and personally I could not give up the baby for adoption. Even if my girlfriend wanted to, I would keep it and care for it on my own.

Congrats! D

[quoted7ca77397c="TryinToGetPaid"]Any help / advice is greatly appreciated.
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I would probably think about getting married before you have the kid, becuase I don't think there are any kids out there who want unmarried parents. shrug

[quoted7ca77397c="ffactoryxx"]Why not have an abortion. Costs like $500.

My gf is on the pill and I always get in fights with her because I want to make sure she is taking it. Don't trust any woman. All I know is, goodbye if she gets preg[/quoted7ca77397c]

You're an asshole.

Congrats on the baby. As long as you want him/her and are willing to take care of him/her, it's all cool.

I do not want to talk about marriage now. Because I do not want people to think we got married because we have a kid. We have been together for 5 years, and most likely we will get married before the kid is old enough to know whether we are or aren't.

And to hehehehe, I appreciate that

You had better give away that Blue moon or whatever crap you were talking about buying, you should start breaking the smoking habbit now.

Yep. I agree that I would ditch a girl who got pregged without me letting her. And yes, I am an asshole. But there are bitches out there who trick dudes into getting them preggers because they want a baby so bad.

And as far as how close it is to 4/20... That is also Hitler's Birthday and the day of the Columbine Cleansing. So you would have that going for you.

I agree with the abortion idea. But save yourself the $500 and get one of these...

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Blue moon? WTF mate?

And don't worry, I have already stopped smoking weed and cigarettes.

And that picture of the hanger, is sick. Period.

If you are not going to say something constructive please quit being an asshole. He didn't plan on all of this happening and now he is stuck with it, you guys are just making things worse. Also, I don't know about him but if my child was aborted (is that a word) I would feel like crap forever.

[quotefe1330cba3="PsychoAU"]Yep. I agree that I would ditch a girl who got pregged without me letting her. And yes, I am an asshole. But there are bitches out there who trick dudes into getting them preggers because they want a baby so bad.

And as far as how close it is to 4/20... That is also Hitler's Birthday and the day of the Columbine Cleansing. So you would have that going for you.

I agree with the abortion idea. But save yourself the $500 and get one of these...

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Ha. Thats rougher than a sandpaper condom

Yeah, I would never let my girlfriend abort our baby. And I think anyone who would- is a heartless bastard. But I do agree that the woman should have a choice in aborting her child, if it is by a case of rape.

And thank you Googler, I knew that telling this forum would result in a lot of immature assholes who would post something. You just can not avoid it.

I agree with ffactory, you cannot trust women. I have heard plenty of stories about women getting off the pill and not telling their boyfriend, then having sex with them knowing full well they have a good chance of getting pregnant, and boom.

But ffactory, you can't leave a girl because she gets pregnant, you realize they will track you down right?

And you will get hit with child support.

[quote3fdd7d19bc="tylerc"]Congrats I guess, but was she on birth control? If you were wearing a condom why wouldn't you pull out, seems kind of pointless not to.[/quote3fdd7d19bc]
What? If your wearing a condom, why would you pull out, that makes no sense....Plus the pill works wonders, much better than condoms...

[quote3fdd7d19bc="h3x"]Congratulations... But I know you're not going to be saying that a year from now... and to be honest, you two don't sound like good parents.. You openly admit that you pop pills and do hardcore drugs. (Oh.. NOW the signature bar is gone )

I'm seriously concerned about the welfare of your child.. Unless you expect to have your parents raise the baby up for you. Which is pretty reckless and irresponsible in my opinion.

... or maybe you're just trying to pull a fast one on us about the whole baby situation... who knows?

Regardless, I hope you know what you're doing.. Because from the sounds of it... You have no fucking clue.[/quote3fdd7d19bc]
For the first time, I have to disagree with you h3x...Not on the drugs are bad for parents, because they are and anyone on drugs with a baby should give the baby up for adoption...But on the fact that he has no fucking clue, he sounds like he's ready to give up his drug lifestyle, more like just being a kid and growing up...

[quote3fdd7d19bc="TryinToGetPaid"]Who would abort a baby? Especially if you created it, it is HALF of you-- I do not see how you could do that.

And if you would leave your girlfriend if she got pregnant, you must not really care about this girl at all.[/quote3fdd7d19bc]
People who absolutely CAN'T raise a baby...There are people out there who are unfit and just don't have the money...It would be like toture for the baby to be raised in those conditions...Adoption might be a little more "humane", but some people don't like the fact that their child is being raised by someone else and that could be very painful for parents...

[quote3fdd7d19bc="Gooogler"]If you are not going to say something constructive please quit being an asshole. He didn't plan on all of this happening and now he is stuck with it, you guys are just making things worse. Also, I don't know about him but if my child was aborted (is that a word) I would feel like crap forever.[/quote3fdd7d19bc]
Seriously, IAWTC....

And PsychoAU, I think I hate you now...That was completely uncalled for and you are officially a dumbass roll ....

I realize most of you are kids, but it still absolutely boggles my mind that some of you guys would put all the responsibility on getting "preggers" on the girl, and take none for yourselves. Grow up -- it takes 2 to tango, people. It is a 50/50 responsibility, and even if one attempts to sneak it past the other one, if the other is being responsible then the odds are still slim of being caught off guard. Of course abstinance is still the most reliable BC. ;)

The innocent child is the one who suffers, for growing up without a father because "Dad" was too much of a horny selfish asshole to think about anything but himself despite the fact he played an equal role in the birth. roll

TryingToGetPaid, while I won't lie and pretend I'm thrilled that you and your gf are having a baby while you're still kids yourself and woefully unprepared, I do admire your sense of responsibility for being there for the kid, and in particular for giving up habits which will lead you and your family down a long road of sorrow should you continue them. Good luck and best wishes to you and your family.

I did not even see that post h3x had made. Thanks for pointing it out MyungChunHa.

h3x, I have thought about this a lot longer than I think you are giving me credit for. I realize I am bringing another human, who is part of ME, into this world and I want the best for him. That means working my ass off, giving up drugs and partying and other girls, but to me - it is all worth it.

Why spend money on drugs, when I can spend all that money on my kid and have a high unlike any other?

Thank you Dmorris-- I agree with you. I mean I am still a kid. I am still a teenager (until October when I turn 20) but, I HAVE to grow up now. I HAVE to have responsibilities and I HAVE to give up things that are not good for my family.

And yes, it does take two to tango, you can not simply just say "Fuck it" and leave, or you can- but you would be an asshole and have no heart.

Girlfriend of 5 years and your 19 so... you started when you were 14?

Yeah, Freshman in High School. I was a nerd with glasses, she was the hot cheerleader.

And you know how I got her?

The way every man gets any woman--- Money.

My mom used to give me 3 dollars for lunch / snacks every day. And every day she would come up and ask for a dollar. So I gave her a dollar every day and we started talking and hanging out. And we have been together ever since.

Best Wishes

[quote9132f63e4e="TryinToGetPaid"]Yeah, Freshman in High School. I was a nerd with glasses, she was the hot cheerleader.

And you know how I got her?

The way every man gets any woman--- Money.

My mom used to give me 3 dollars for lunch / snacks every day. And every day she would come up and ask for a dollar. So I gave her a dollar every day and we started talking and hanging out. And we have been together ever since.[/quote9132f63e4e]

lmao it only takes 1 dollar shit i thought it takes thousands

1dollar/day x 180 days in school year x 5 years = $900

That is, if you are still giving her $1/day ?

No, we are both out of high school -- Now I give her around 40 dollars a day for food, clothes, whatever she wants. She is pregnant and whatever makes her happy, I give her.

180days x $1/day x 4 years + 365days x $40/day x rest of life = expensive

[quote8485b7444b="TryinToGetPaid"]No, we are both out of high school -- Now I give her around 40 dollars a day for food, clothes, whatever she wants. She is pregnant and whatever makes her happy, I give her.[/quote8485b7444b]

Save some of that and not work as much. She will appreciate having you around that extra time when she needs you.

I save a lot more than that, and I am sure she saves some of what she does not use. And she knows that I have to work to support both of us, so she is fine with the limited time we see each other. Though I try my hardest to be around her as much as I can, the hardest thing is I worry a lot. So she receives a lot of phone calls from me asking her "Are you Ok? How are you feeling?" etc.

Get her to trade free sites while she is at home ^_^

Congrats man!!!

She actually likes free sites, I showed her the ipod I am getting from ThisStuffIsFree-- which now I am giving to her and she wants to do some. I think I am going to set her up and show her how to do it, and how to trade-- that way she can maybe do some sites for money because we will be needing it.

[quoted9ee1000cc="tylerc"]I agree with ffactory, you cannot trust women. I have heard plenty of stories about women getting off the pill and not telling their boyfriend, then having sex with them knowing full well they have a good chance of getting pregnant, and boom.

But ffactory, you can't leave a girl because she gets pregnant, you realize they will track you down right?[/quoted9ee1000cc]

Well i would make her get it aborted. Call me crude or whatever you want but I have asked her countless times just to make sure she takes it and countless times she has said she does and would never put her or I at risk in a million years. If she did lie though and got pregnant. thats on her

[quotec3689abc08="MyungChunHa"][quotec3689abc08="tylerc"]Congrats I guess, but was she on birth control? If you were wearing a condom why wouldn't you pull out, seems kind of pointless not to.[/quotec3689abc08]
What? If your wearing a condom, why would you pull out, that makes no sense....Plus the pill works wonders, much better than condoms...
[/quotec3689abc08]
Newsflash
Condoms aren't 100%, only 98% to prevent pregnancy.

If you use a condom [ic3689abc08]and[/ic3689abc08] pull out you would greatly reduce the risk of impregnating someone, it makes plenty of sense.

Exactly. With my ex I always pulled out, no pregnancies here.

Well-- I have used a condom over a thousand times, and this was a first. After this, she plans to go on birth control and I will still use condoms.

[quoteffb9cdf088="justinag06"][quoteffb9cdf088="MyungChunHa"][quoteffb9cdf088="tylerc"]Congrats I guess, but was she on birth control? If you were wearing a condom why wouldn't you pull out, seems kind of pointless not to.[/quoteffb9cdf088]
What? If your wearing a condom, why would you pull out, that makes no sense....Plus the pill works wonders, much better than condoms...
[/quoteffb9cdf088]
Newsflash
Condoms aren't 100%, only 98% to prevent pregnancy.

If you use a condom [iffb9cdf088]and[/iffb9cdf088] pull out you would greatly reduce the risk of impregnating someone, it makes plenty of sense.[/quoteffb9cdf088]
Well, I did know that they aren't 100%, just wasn't thinking about that at the time....I guess that it does make sense now that you pointed that out...I just never do because my girl is on the pill and it hasn't failed us yet...Plus, when I'm about finished, I hate pulling out, I'm not thinking about it and it just feels akward to me, that's why I said it makes no sense...It is safer though, so more power to you if it doesn't bother you like it does me....

[quote29bf9b6156="ffactoryxx"][quote29bf9b6156="tylerc"]I agree with ffactory, you cannot trust women. I have heard plenty of stories about women getting off the pill and not telling their boyfriend, then having sex with them knowing full well they have a good chance of getting pregnant, and boom.

But ffactory, you can't leave a girl because she gets pregnant, you realize they will track you down right?[/quote29bf9b6156]

Well i would make her get it aborted. Call me crude or whatever you want but I have asked her countless times just to make sure she takes it and countless times she has said she does and would never put her or I at risk in a million years. If she did lie though and got pregnant. thats on her[/quote29bf9b6156]

Wrong. You don't have any say in what she does with the baby, it's her choice, you can't make her get it aborted, just like you couldn't make her keep it if she wanted to abort it. Also, it's not "on her", it's on both of you, doesn't matter if she lied or not.

[quote0c2304383b="tylerc"]Wrong. You don't have any say in what she does with the baby, it's her choice, you can't make her get it aborted, just like you couldn't make her keep it if she wanted to abort it. Also, it's not "on her", it's on both of you, doesn't matter if she lied or not.[/quote0c2304383b]

Like no man has ever been able to manipulate a woman's decisions... tsk tsk.

And if she sucks out that baby's brain with a Hoover, then it won't be on me anymore. And on the way back from the clinic, you can drop her off at the bus station and never look back. That'll teach her to take her pills.

[quote465601002b="tylerc"][quote465601002b="ffactoryxx"][quote465601002b="tylerc"]I agree with ffactory, you cannot trust women. I have heard plenty of stories about women getting off the pill and not telling their boyfriend, then having sex with them knowing full well they have a good chance of getting pregnant, and boom.

But ffactory, you can't leave a girl because she gets pregnant, you realize they will track you down right?[/quote465601002b]

Well i would make her get it aborted. Call me crude or whatever you want but I have asked her countless times just to make sure she takes it and countless times she has said she does and would never put her or I at risk in a million years. If she did lie though and got pregnant. thats on her[/quote465601002b]

Wrong. You don't have any say in what she does with the baby, it's her choice, you can't make her get it aborted, just like you couldn't make her keep it if she wanted to abort it. Also, it's not "on her", it's on both of you, doesn't matter if she lied or not.[/quote465601002b]

A little off topic, but people make such a big freaking deal out of abortion. Just get it done very early and its not such a big thing to argue about. Me being a Biochemist, I don't really see what the big deal is about stopping clump of cells that are in the process of dividing. Most cells from our body have a potential of becoming another "human", but we don't cry out whenever we are killing millions of them.

Tryingtogetpaid, you seem to be really excited and happy you are having a baby which is very unusuall for a person your age. But good luck to you.

Science, Religion, Morals, and Ethics have never got along, so let us not make a whether abortion is right or wrong thread again.

Woman's choice is so BS, sorry. People say it is 50/50 making it, which it is, but then the decision is 100/0 (technically can be).

fuck responsibly. or don't fuck at all!

[quotef31793f1eb="Gigante"][quotef31793f1eb="TryinToGetPaid"]No, we are both out of high school -- Now I give her around 40 dollars a day for food, clothes, whatever she wants. She is pregnant and whatever makes her happy, I give her.[/quotef31793f1eb]

Save some of that and not work as much. She will appreciate having you around that extra time when she needs you.[/quotef31793f1eb]

WRONG ! what you really need to do is cut back on the hours and start to apply for welfare shit this is what is made for

already on medicaid and wic

what a way to raise your kid

your 19 and fucked up what more is there to say your excited now till your working 80 hours just to get by while your friends are at bars and getting fucked up.

i hate people relying on the goverment for there mistakes im paying for you fucking up

man up and get off welfare and take care of your shit.

america is so stupid 2 crackheads can deliever a baby for free but a normal good citizen has to pay out of their ass to deliever a baby at the same hospital.

good luck your gonna need it

i may sound like an asshole but deal with it

[quoteef81456553="PsychoAU"][quoteef81456553="tylerc"]Wrong. You don't have any say in what she does with the baby, it's her choice, you can't make her get it aborted, just like you couldn't make her keep it if she wanted to abort it. Also, it's not "on her", it's on both of you, doesn't matter if she lied or not.[/quoteef81456553]

Like no man has ever been able to manipulate a woman's decisions... tsk tsk.

And if she sucks out that baby's brain with a Hoover, then it won't be on me anymore. And on the way back from the clinic, you can drop her off at the bus station and never look back. That'll teach her to take her pills.[/quoteef81456553]

unless you are paying for her pills you can't bitch about them

Yah, as much as I mean good luck and best wishes, I do not support people paying taxes so they can pay for other people's mistakes.


I suppose it would be worse if an illegal immigrant takes those benefits \

IMO if i don't trust a girl I would use a condom whether she says she's on BC or not... STD's are a huge worry plus the fact that I don't want a Kid right now...

Anyone who says if their GF gets pregnate they will leave here should have their balls removed so they don't have to worry about it, If you don't trust that your girl is using her birth control when she needs to then you should wear a condom, and anyone who says you can't trust a girl then maybe you shouldn't be having sex with that girl... I trust my girlfriend 100% and have no worries about BC being used the wrong way...


Anyways, Congrats again man! I'm glad you want it!

[quoted55fc90e7d="justinag06"]unless you are paying for her pills you can't bitch about them[/quoted55fc90e7d]

She doesn't pay for my condoms. But try to get her to stop bitching if I ever forgot to use one. I take care of my end of things and she better damned well take care of hers.

After all, she can lie about taking a pill, but it is pretty tough for me to lie about wearing a rubber.

Yet another reason why women should be on leashes.

Yes, but wearing a condom/taking BC pills isn't 100% method of not getting pregnant. In a hypothetical situation, if your girl got pregnant even though you were using a condom, and she was using a BC pill, what would you do? Would you pay half the cost for an abortion? Would you desert her?

[quote204dfdc4ad="Daggoth"]Yes, but wearing a condom/taking BC pills isn't 100% method of not getting pregnant. In a hypothetical situation, if your girl got pregnant even though you were using a condom, and she was using a BC pill, what would you do? Would you pay half the cost for an abortion? Would you desert her?[/quote204dfdc4ad]
The chances if she is on the pill and you use a condom of her getting pregnant are astronomical. It just doesn't happen...

[quote5cec9a0e1a="Wolfeman"][quote5cec9a0e1a="Daggoth"]Yes, but wearing a condom/taking BC pills isn't 100% method of not getting pregnant. In a hypothetical situation, if your girl got pregnant even though you were using a condom, and she was using a BC pill, what would you do? Would you pay half the cost for an abortion? Would you desert her?[/quote5cec9a0e1a]
The chances if she is on the pill and you use a condom of her getting pregnant are astronomical. It just doesn't happen...[/quote5cec9a0e1a]

Like I said, a hypothetical situation.

[quote3f30e4453b="MyungChunHa"]For the first time, I have to disagree with you h3x...Not on the drugs are bad for parents, because they are and anyone on drugs with a baby should give the baby up for adoption...But on the fact that he has no fucking clue, he sounds like he's ready to give up his drug lifestyle, more like just being a kid and growing up...[/quote3f30e4453b]

Sure it sounds great and it sounds like he knows what he's doing and he's ready to step up to the plate... but does he really? From the time he's joined and the posts he has made.. He sounds like a person that has yet to grow up. Anyone can say sweet words... But it takes action... and based on his prior actions, I have doubts its going to go through as easy as he's making it sound.

Not that I wish anything bad on you or the child... I don't. But I still think you have a lot of growing up to do, and you are going to go through a lot of shit when this kid is born.. But I do think, these hardships will finally make you grow up... At least I hope it does.

Congradulations man, you sound really happy to be having the kid.

TTGP, I hope you realize I'm not trying to attack you in any way... I'm only judging based on your past demeanor on this forum (as that's all I have to go on).

I wish you the best of luck and I hope you raise your kid to be a lady or gentleman.

Damn, I regret reading this thread almost as much as watching that centipede video. (Maybe a mod can retitle the thread to spotlight the topic of discussion? I might have skipped it)

Alright...

I, like many here, totally respect you being a standup guy here. Taking responsibility for your actions, whatever the consequences are, IS what a man does.

That said, and I don't mean to talk to you as a kid now, you WILL feel differently later. Trust me on this. I don't say it based on the kid. I say it based on your age. There are a LOT of things you will feel totally different about in 10 years. Ask anyone at least 10 years older, and they will tell you this if they are honest. Most people are pretty embarrassed about their views at 19. I know right now that you feel that you'll never feel differently, that you can't think of anything that [i8f332fb905]could[/i8f332fb905] make you feel differently, but you will. Again, just trust me on this.

I read what you posted about abortion and adoption. I don't know if they stem from religious beliefs or not, but I understand how people feel that way.

I don't expect everyone to agree on when sentient life begins, and whether the potential for it is just as sacred or not. For what I'm about to say, it's almost immaterial anyhow. As for adoption, I do understand the heart wrenching thought of whether you made the right decision. I wouldn't be writing right now if I didn't understand that. However, if you commit yourself to having it, then worrying about whether or not the life the kid will have will truly be better than what you could have provided, is something YOU must live with. Once you bring a child into the world, how you feel is of little importance. Whatever is in the best interest of the CHILD is all that counts.

By having the kid, you'll be putting aside aspirations and ambitions to raise it. The sacrifices you make now, will be far greater than those you would have had to make later. I know you think you can live with that, but the kid shouldn't have to when he or she realizes it.

I speak from experience on this. My mom was young too, and couldn't couldn't live with not knowing where or how her kid would live if she gave it up for adoption, or just not having it. As much as I like being here, objectively, she made the wrong choice. She gave up going to college, and it impacted her health. It still does. She doesn't lay that on me, I just know. Your kid will too. Why do that to them?

I'm just posting on a messageboard, but I have an idea that some of the people close to you might feel the way I do. Don't shut them out. Take a step back, put yourself in the kids shoes, and think really carefully about this decision.

You may find that a more difficult decision made now, will be easier to live with than what you've chosen already.

I wish you the best of luck in whatever you choose.

This might be the best thread ever.

Ok another question for you TryingToGetPaid. Aren't you the guy that broke his foot or something and is in the hospital and can't do anything but watch TV and piss for like 2 months?

If so how are you working already?

Yeah my foot is in a cast. It was not broke, it just had a bone removed. My cast comes off in two weeks and now I can walk on it. And my two jobs involve me sitting in front of a computer. Which as we all know, does not require walking.

As far as people saying that I will be working, or taking care of my girlfriend and baby while all my friends are getting drunk- That is perfectly fine with me. I have thought about all of this through. I know that I have to give up ALOT of things, but to me, it is worth it. I helped create this child which my girlfriend is carrying around in her stomach. So I have to give up all these things which I really do not need in my life anyways.

I got 2 jobs --- before I had NONE.
I gave up smoking and drinking.
We both go to church now.
We both have responsibilities, and we both own up to it.

And h3x, and everyone else. I know you have doubts, because you all don't know me, all of you never have met me. But I like reading these doubtful people, and the people who are straight up assholes-- It makes me want to work harder, so in 9 months, I can say fuck you to all of those who did not think we could do it and thought I was a major dumbass. Well actually to all those who have said something of the asshole nature FUCK YOU!!!

And I hope half of you NEVER have a kid.

[quote81a8b81563="TryinToGetPaid"]Yeah my foot is in a cast. It was not broke, it just had a bone removed. My cast comes off in two weeks and now I can walk on it. And my two jobs involve me sitting in front of a computer. Which as we all know, does not require walking.

As far as people saying that I will be working, or taking care of my girlfriend and baby while all my friends are getting drunk- That is perfectly fine with me. I have thought about all of this through. I know that I have to give up ALOT of things, but to me, it is worth it. I helped create this child which my girlfriend is carrying around in her stomach. So I have to give up all these things which I really do not need in my life anyways.

I got 2 jobs --- before I had NONE.
I gave up smoking and drinking.
We both go to church now.
We both have responsibilities, and we both own up to it.

And h3x, and everyone else. I know you have doubts, because you all don't know me, all of you never have met me. But I like reading these doubtful people, and the people who are straight up assholes-- It makes me want to work harder, so in 9 months, I can say fuck you to all of those who did not think we could do it and thought I was a major dumbass. Well actually to all those who have said something of the asshole nature FUCK YOU!!!

And I hope half of you NEVER have a kid.[/quote81a8b81563]

Kudos to you if you do work 2 jobs and support the kid on your own. The tone of your first post sounded like you were totally cool with raising your kid on government aid. That's what frustrated me. If you're really giving up everything and busting your ass to support the kid, that's awesome. I honestly hope for the best for you.

No we are not simply raising our kid on welfare, as they do in the ghetto. We are both working, me 2 jobs and she is working part time at her law firm. We are using it simply to help us out because as you all clearly put Raising a kid is expensive.

I'm strongly under the opinion that people under the age of 21 shouldn't be allowed to make eye contact with me in public, let alone reproduce, but that being said, kudos to you for being adult about it.

I could probably rant and rave about children having children and raising them like friends instead of children but that would probably be another thread that would just get locked in 10 minutes.

I guess good luck, since it sounds like you aren't a fan of hitting the undo button. Just, don't leach the system like everyone else who is popping out deamon spawn your age does. I guess people my age too.

Moral of the story Boost your life torrent ratio. Don't be a leach.

[quotef9af4db600="h3x"][quotef9af4db600="MyungChunHa"]For the first time, I have to disagree with you h3x...Not on the drugs are bad for parents, because they are and anyone on drugs with a baby should give the baby up for adoption...But on the fact that he has no fucking clue, he sounds like he's ready to give up his drug lifestyle, more like just being a kid and growing up...[/quotef9af4db600]

Sure it sounds great and it sounds like he knows what he's doing and he's ready to step up to the plate... but does he really? From the time he's joined and the posts he has made.. He sounds like a person that has yet to grow up. Anyone can say sweet words... But it takes action... and based on his prior actions, I have doubts its going to go through as easy as he's making it sound.

Not that I wish anything bad on you or the child... I don't. But I still think you have a lot of growing up to do, and you are going to go through a lot of shit when this kid is born.. But I do think, these hardships will finally make you grow up... At least I hope it does.[/quotef9af4db600]
Yeah, you make a good point and I see exactly where your coming from....I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt because he does sound like he's very mature and has an organized plan, which is exactly what he or any parent needs....

Plus he has his and her parents behind them, which is sometimes hard to find when at a young age (meaning they are good supportive parents), so they won't be totally alone...They have someone to consult during problem times, and people who have already gone through the whole ordeal, people who have their best interest....