fake ipod??

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=43985

GCY

02-08-2006 15:02:19

I brought an ipod nano 2gb off ebay
http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&item=230012888858&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
as a previous owner of ipod nano brought off Apple, I immediately notice the ipod looks different. I don't know why but it just does. I then notice the USB cable looks fake, after comparing it with my orignal one from Apple....well fair enough it is fake. Not even close.
can't compared the two ipod nanos since I sold it off ebay after getting a free ipod video from trainn.
I also manage to check the serial no. from the box and the ipod, it doesn't even match.

been searching google but can't find anything about a fake ipod.(the exact same look, but fake)
not this
http//digitalmusic.weblogsinc.com/2006/07/30/fake-ipod-nanos-on-ebay/
or this
http//www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/fake-ipod-nanos-hit-manila

any1 heard such thing?

Blink182=Gone

02-08-2006 15:06:07

what do you mean you "brought" an ipod from apple?

CollidgeGraduit

02-08-2006 15:07:41

[quoted93ddd425b="Blink182=Gone"]what do you mean you "brought" an iPod from apple?[/quoted93ddd425b]

No need to be nitpicky.. he obviously meant "bought"

irannaked

02-08-2006 15:08:39

I believe he mean's the apple store that are in malls?

GCY

02-08-2006 15:09:25

[quote02a6200e28="Blink182=Gone"]what do you mean you "brought" an iPod from apple?[/quote02a6200e28]
yea typo.....or I can't spell
freaking piss right now.

GCY

02-08-2006 15:11:17

[quote9b27786634="irannaked"]I believe he mean's the apple store that are in malls?[/quote9b27786634]
I bought an ipod nano 4gb from Apple.com a week after it came out. Got a free video from trainn and sold that. Now I'm buying a nano for my sis.

TryinToGetPaid

02-08-2006 15:11:44

100% Original & Authentic

Thats in the product description, so if you can prove its not. He lied to you -)

GCY

02-08-2006 15:12:55

I think I just did prove its fake.
1. fake USB cable
2. The plastic covering that first came with the ipod isn't the same.
3. the earbuds doesn't look that "real"
4. missing dock, I know I got one from Apple.

irannaked

02-08-2006 15:15:15

does it still work and have 4gb? if so why complain?

ILoveToys

02-08-2006 15:16:01

Well...How does the thing work?

GCY

02-08-2006 15:16:02

I could power it on fine. Didn't charge it. Will test it out now.

Psyc

02-08-2006 15:16:41

The heatshrink job should have given it away. It's awful.

Does it function at all? If it doesn't, that sucks.

Blink182=Gone

02-08-2006 15:21:04

why don't you just take some pictures of the ipod/accesories that you believe are fake so we can compare?? shock

GCY

02-08-2006 15:21:22

I guess the "100% Original & Authentic" should led to a clue its fake.
Also just notice the seller removed paypal as a form of payment.

Jeorgius

02-08-2006 15:23:04

If the case is that it is fake, notify ebay to get your money back

GCY

02-08-2006 15:23:19

[quote1d460c7c0b="Blink182=Gone"]why don't you just take some pictures of the iPod/accesories that you believe are fake so we can compare?? shock[/quote1d460c7c0b]
camera got stolen. The best I got is from camera phone. Will post later.
also it appears to sync with itunes just fine.

Blink182=Gone

02-08-2006 15:26:57

I believe there is/was a Serial Number "checker" I guess you could call it, on Apple's site. It would tell you how much longer of a warranty you have on your device, after you enter the serial number.

h3x

02-08-2006 15:28:23

I love bootleg crap... Does it work? If so, how much do you want for it?

freaky1718

02-08-2006 15:32:10

umumm one thing if it shows video and radio thats the fake china made one . but anyway all ipods and apple stuff is made in china

GCY

02-08-2006 15:37:08

[quotea67cc0db5d="Blink182=Gone"]I believe there is/was a Serial Number "checker" I guess you could call it, on Apple's site. It would tell you how much longer of a warranty you have on your device, after you enter the serial number.[/quotea67cc0db5d]
Get "please enter a vaild serial number" when I enter the serial number from the ipod.
but got this from the box.
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GCY

02-08-2006 15:39:15

[quote5b1cf50829="h3x"]I love bootleg crap... Does it work? If so, how much do you want for it?[/quote5b1cf50829]
it does appear to work fine. brought it for $146.xx shipped. If u check out his feedbacks, others are paying a lot more than I did. lol

h3x

02-08-2006 15:41:24

[quote36677cb3a8="GCY"][quote36677cb3a8="h3x"]I love bootleg crap... Does it work? If so, how much do you want for it?[/quote36677cb3a8]
it does appear to work fine. brought it for $146.xx shipped. If u check out his feedbacks, others are paying a lot more than I did. lol[/quote36677cb3a8]

DAMN.. I'll just buy a real iPod in that case... Thanks anyways ;)

hehehhehe

02-08-2006 15:53:19

Did you contact him to see what he says? Tell him you are going to take it to the Apple store to have them look at it.

GCY

02-08-2006 16:01:34

I was planning on returning it to him but then again I'm alittle scared I might get ripped off.
Can't just email him saying u sold me a fake ipod, of course hes gonna deny it.
just need to find out if there is a such thing as a fake ipod

Blink182=Gone

02-08-2006 16:11:10

yes, oversees (China, Japan, etc) there are tons of fake ipods. Usually they are more noticable though, which is what makes me wonder. ?

Simply take it into an Apple Store, and you have your evidence against him. How did you pay?

hehehhehe

02-08-2006 16:11:25

If you want to know if it's fake, take it to an Apple store. Once they confirm it, have ebay/Paypal take care of it.

Chris

02-08-2006 16:12:47

Is the navigation system the same? Does the click wheel work?

http//news.soft32.com/wp-content/upload/fake_ipod.jpg[" alt=""/imgc6f604ffa7]

Tholek

02-08-2006 16:16:15

Oh man, that thing is funny to look at. )

GCY

02-08-2006 16:18:58

first, I payed using paypal. I just notice today that the seller removed paypal. humm??
how would apple confirm its fake?(like what proof will I need to provide ebay/paypal)

GCY

02-08-2006 16:20:27

[quote926fb36e49="Chris"]Is the navigation system the same? Does the click wheel work?

http//news.soft32.com/wp-content/upload/fake_ipod.jpg[" alt=""/img926fb36e49][/quote926fb36e49]
the click wheel works fine. It doesn't look like that.
it looks exactly like the ipod nano. Can't tell at all its fake.

schf0ol3d

02-08-2006 16:23:53

[quote8d44984ba8="Tholek"]Oh man, that thing is funny to look at. )[/quote8d44984ba8]

Reminds me of those "Can you spot 5 differences between the two pictures?" games.

tjwor

02-08-2006 16:28:47

dude it is fake, they either reproduced the box, meaning copied the serial # or bought a real nano, and switched the Nano for a Nanoli and then sold it... The best way to get your money back would be to go to paypal first, I think you can send to them and they will refund your money instead of sending back to the seller who will most likley just take the item back but not pay you your money back...

If it looks like the ones in the Pic on the 2nd link you gave it is def. fake... i'd like to see pics of it tho...

GCY

02-08-2006 16:39:35

I would need proof that its fake to take it to paypal though. Paypal not gonna do shit. Like I said b4, it looks exactly like a real ipod.
I don't have a camera, and my camera phone takes shitty pics. u can't even tell its fake from the camera phone.

hehehhehe

02-08-2006 16:44:31

Geez, take it to the Apple store already. If you can't tell its fake, only they can.

theysayjump

02-08-2006 17:04:17

[quotec1e0ef24f8="hehehhehe"]Geez, take it to the Apple store already. If you can't tell its fake, only they can.[/quotec1e0ef24f8]

Exactly.

If Paypal are going to need proof that it is indeed fake, giving them a link to this thread will not suffice.

Go to the APple store, tell them your concerns, ask them if they could have a look at it and confirm whether it is infact a fake or not and ask them to provide you with some form of proof if it is a fake.

I'm sure they'd be more than willing to help you out. Or you could just call beforehand and ask if they'd mind if you don't want to possibley waste a trip.

GCY

02-08-2006 17:32:05

I will take it to the apple store then.
should I email him telling him its fake and that he should refund my money first or else I'll confirm it via the apple store, report it to ebay/paypal, etc....
it'll scare the shit outta him and if he did indeed refund my money, I keep the shitty ipod.

doylnea

02-08-2006 18:00:06

[quote88c7a4afdf="GCY"]I will take it to the apple store then.
should I email him telling him its fake and that he should refund my money first or else I'll confirm it via the apple store, report it to ebay/paypal, etc....
it'll scare the shit outta him and if he did indeed refund my money, I keep the shitty iPod.[/quote88c7a4afdf]

No, you need proof that it's fake before you do anything else. If you, yourself, can't confirm it, then you'll need Apple to do so for you. You can certainly email him, but he's going to deny that it's fake. I wouldn't bother emailing him, until you have an answer from Apple.

Once you get an answer from Apple, then you can progress with your complaint. You would need to file a SNAD report with eBay, and document the SNAD with proof from Apple. Here's a link that describes the process.
http//pages.ebay.com/help/tp/inr-snad-process.html

tml09

02-08-2006 19:12:32

Well, it looks like he tried to up the price on you. All those accounts that bid have about 1 or 0 feedback on them. That is very odd.

Go to the apple store, get some kind of proof it is fake. then, send it to paypal/ebay and get your money back.

Maybe its refurbished -)

GCY

02-08-2006 20:17:32

I just send him an email. Lets see what happens from here.
I told him to refund my money first or I'll take the item to apple, report it to ebay, and to all his buyers. If he did refund my money, I'll gonna fuck him like he did to me. I'm keeping the ipod. lol.

irannaked

02-08-2006 20:23:57

DOES THE IPOD WORK!!?!?!

doylnea

02-08-2006 20:30:06

[quote37f79bc951="GCY"]I just send him an email. Lets see what happens from here.
I told him to refund my money first or I'll take the item to apple, report it to ebay, and to all his buyers. If he did refund my money, I'll gonna fuck him like he did to me. I'm keeping the iPod. lol.[/quote37f79bc951]

That would be fraud...and two frauds don't make a right (but three rights make a left).

hehehhehe

02-08-2006 20:33:53

[quotefd737731d5="doylnea"][quotefd737731d5="GCY"]I just send him an email. Lets see what happens from here.
I told him to refund my money first or I'll take the item to apple, report it to ebay, and to all his buyers. If he did refund my money, I'll gonna fuck him like he did to me. I'm keeping the iPod. lol.[/quotefd737731d5]

That would be fraud...and two frauds don't make a right (but three rights make a left).[/quotefd737731d5]
Yep, and he doesn't have to refund you until he has his item back.

GCY

02-08-2006 20:39:08

[quote4c0ba25a80="irannaked"]DOES THE iPod WORK!!?!?![/quote4c0ba25a80]
yes the ipod work. I can't tell the difference though. The only thing is the serial # isn't legit and all the acessories are shit. Got the item brand new sealed.

well hes been screwing everyone else, why not screw him back. I'm threatening him to refund first or else lol. And some ppl are stupid enough to refund first without getting the item back.

ILoveToys

02-08-2006 20:46:17

I doubt you have to worry about a guy pawning off fake ipods refunding you b4 you send it back. I think you might end up just being happy w/ ur fake ipod. Does it show up w/ the full 2 gigs, and does it work alright?

TryinToGetPaid

02-08-2006 20:46:55

He said it works like 9 times. Are you peeps blind tonight?

theysayjump

02-08-2006 20:47:57

[quote45174defd0="GCY"]And some ppl are stupid enough to refund first without getting the item back.[/quote45174defd0]

Some are also stupid enough to buy an iPod Nano on eBay for $132 without thinking it may be fake. http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/b9d8248c1040f3914ff447df3d28044a.gif[" alt=""/img45174defd0]

GCY

02-08-2006 21:09:41

[quote19537435bd="theysayjump"][quote19537435bd="GCY"]And some ppl are stupid enough to refund first without getting the item back.[/quote19537435bd]

Some are also stupid enough to buy an iPod Nano on eBay for $132 without thinking it may be fake. http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/b9d8248c1040f3914ff447df3d28044a.gif[" alt=""/img19537435bd][/quote19537435bd]
I never had the intention of winning it. I knew I was gonna be overbided at the last second. I actually placed my bid 20 second b4 ending
lol but check out his other auctions
http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=118264&item=230013663815
http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=118264&item=230012446892
$146 shipped is probably the cheapest 2gb nano on ebay. I guess the saying goes.....if its too good to be true, then it is.


also is it fishy that this seller only sells 2gb nano's and 1gb shuffle's.

GCY

02-08-2006 21:18:54

can someone post a pic of their ipod nano box? preferably a big clear pic of the front.
Just compared this box with my ipod video box. The bottom of my video box are stickers while on this box, they are printed on.

FreeOffersNow

02-08-2006 21:20:49

[quote406bae3c2a="GCY"]also is it fishy that this seller only sells 2gb nano's and 1gb shuffle's.[/quote406bae3c2a]


No...what difference would that make? I only sold a select few of the iPod lines and mine weren't knockoffs (

egyptianruin

02-08-2006 21:32:09

Damn I would just report the guy to ebay and paypal. It's ridiculous to let these scum pawn off fake crap unto unsuspecting people. Do you want other people to fall for his scam? It wasn't obviously in the original packaging as the auction claimed (two different serial numbers) and it very well may be fake. If not who is to say it's going to have a good lifespan, it might die on you in a week. I hate ebay scammers, ugh!

Sorry didn't mean to rant, lol

GCY

03-08-2006 13:41:48

The Apple Store on Fifth Ave. in NYC was able to comfirm its fake due to the invaild serial number, other than that they can't tell the difference.
All they could provide is a support form
should this be enough proof for ebay/paypal?
http/" alt=""/img187.imageshack.us/img="187/5458/ipod02my4.jpg[" alt=""/img6f1e5cd775][=http//imageshack.us][img="6f1e5cd775]http/" alt=""/img187.imageshack.us/img="187/5458/ipod02my4.jpg[" alt=""/img6f1e5cd775][/url]

theysayjump

03-08-2006 13:52:19

Yeah looks good.

I'd get in touch with Paypal and eBay as soon as possible.

hehehhehe

03-08-2006 13:55:14

Wow, so it's only the serial number which is fake and even they can't tell the difference? I had heard of people importing ipods parts from China and building it themselves or people stealing parts and building them in China outside of Apple (so they can't produce valid SN), maybe this is one of them?

Anyway, yeah, it should be enough for ebay and Paypal. Just follow Doylnea's post.

GCY

03-08-2006 14:03:42

I can't open a dispute on ebay for "item Not Received or Significantly Not as Described Process", gotta wait another week.
I'm pretty sure theres a link to report ebay about counterfeit products. can't find that.

Also what should I do about paypal? Should I email them directly or open a dispute where the seller will be able to see all the info I'll provide.(Apple form).

theysayjump

03-08-2006 14:14:01

Call Paypal and ask them the best way to handle it, especially since you have to wait another week before you can file with eBay. Tell them if he's selling more of these, you don't other people being ripped off etc, so they may let you file early. shrug

Won't do any harm to try.

Tholek

03-08-2006 20:30:30

[quote00cb773072="hehehhehe"]Wow, so it's only the serial number which is fake and even they can't tell the difference? I had heard of people importing ipods parts from China and building it themselves or people stealing parts and building them in China outside of Apple (so they can't produce valid SN), maybe this is one of them?

Anyway, yeah, it should be enough for ebay and Paypal. Just follow Doylnea's post.[/quote00cb773072]

That's the first I ever heard that was happening.

I was thinking if these could be stolen, and then given new serials, or perhaps maybe a shipment that was stolen in China before having their serials assigned.

GCY

03-08-2006 21:22:01

ok so after further examing the ipod, I now notice that the serial number under setting>about is different yet again. This one isn't a phony one unlike the one behind the ipod. wtf????

guelah75

03-08-2006 21:38:30

stolen?

call apple tell them the serial from the settings menu on the fake? ipod

see what they say

maybe it is registered to someone

then call the cops

GCY

04-08-2006 05:49:48

actually I just bring it to apple. They checked both the serial number from the box and the ipod on their computer. The other guy that was looking at it also notice a different serial # under setting>about but didn't brother checking it out.

GCY

07-08-2006 15:53:16

I filed a claim with paypal. Now the only action I could do is to ship the item back to the seller which I'm hesitatant on doing. The seller agrees to offer a full refund but I'm pretty sure I'll get ripped off.
I think hes pretty piss with the neg. feedback he got, he made his feedback private and it seems like he isn't selling the ipod anymore.
what should I do now?

GCY

07-08-2006 19:53:26

any advice? man I'm starting to hate ebay and paypal. When I contact ebay, they just told me to take it to paypal. wtf?
now I can't do anything expect to ship the item back or paypal will close the claim. Do they even freaking know what they're dealing with here!?

cwncool

07-08-2006 20:13:37

lol! i bet if you ship it back, he'll resell it or give it to a friend to resell or something. call paypal and ask why you have to send it back, if he'll just do it again (not necessarily under the same account, etc.) and if they wont, i guess you'll just have to send it back shrug (

GCY

07-08-2006 20:52:06

thats extactly why I don't want to ship it back. All signs point to me getting ripped off again. I will not ship it back unless I get the refund first, even if I have to fight ebay and paypal.
1. he no long uses paypal(probably clear his account by now)
2. I already gave him a neg. FB, he immediately made his FB private
3. I no longer see him selling ipods(probably started a new account)

paypal and ebay both don't do no shit.