Is World war 3 close at hand?

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JUNIOR6886

19-07-2006 19:06:29

Found an interesting digg... with all the things happeneing in the world right now. do you think world war 3 is close at hand?
http//digg.com/world_news/World_War_-_III_The_Time_Line...Are_we_close_to_it_than_we_think

and
http//www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,204164,00.html

bballp6699

19-07-2006 19:33:53

Newt is a fucking idiot.

jy3

19-07-2006 19:44:41

i would not be surprised if we are the center of the war, the world against us and a few allies, if any

justinag06

19-07-2006 20:03:19

eh, right now we could level most of the world if we had to. They know this, and while some of the world could level us I think we are all blowing this out of proportion. Tensions have been building, but there aren't any t ruely unstable nations that pose a serious threat to us or the world yet.

As far as the whole North Korea thing, that is now a [iee28326d1c]total[/iee28326d1c] non-issue. They have no pull since they launched their missle and it either failed or we shot it down in the takeoff stage. Either way they are bitch slapped, and will most likely fall into place withen the next year.

few allies, where the hell are you getting this, the iraq war? That isn't a good basis to make such a strong assumption. Our allies are still there, trust me if the shit hits the fan, france and germany will align back on our side in no time at all.

correct me if i'm wrong to assume we would have the following nations on our side if world war broke out the way it's being described

canada
mexico
germany
spain
italy
france
australia
india

syriandoode

19-07-2006 20:08:06

justin has a point i could see russia and china getting pissed though

theysayjump

19-07-2006 20:46:48

[quote0b317c167c="justinag06"]eh, right now we could level most of the world if we had to. They know this, and while some of the world could level us I think we are all blowing this out of proportion. Tensions have been building, but there aren't any t ruely unstable nations that pose a serious threat to us or the world yet.

As far as the whole North Korea thing, that is now a [i0b317c167c]total[/i0b317c167c] non-issue. They have no pull since they launched their missle and it either failed or we shot it down in the takeoff stage. Either way they are bitch slapped, and will most likely fall into place withen the next year.

few allies, where the hell are you getting this, the iraq war? That isn't a good basis to make such a strong assumption. Our allies are still there, trust me if the shit hits the fan, france and germany will align back on our side in no time at all.

correct me if i'm wrong to assume we would have the following nations on our side if world war broke out the way it's being described

canada
mexico
germany
spain
italy
france
australia
india[/quote0b317c167c]

Not to mention the UK, Japan, probably all of Scandanavia and probably Russia too.

Also, the reason there was so much protest against the Iraq war and some of the US' allies not helping out, is because it was/is a bullshit war and those countries who refused to take part knew it was bullshit and were also right in refusing to take part.

If it was a world war, then chances are it will be a threat to the well being of everyone on the planet, so I don't see there being any objections, meaning that all of the "good guys" will unite as one. Probably.

On a side note, I had a dream about 4 years ago where I was in a house but the roof was missing, the walls were partly blown off and it was in the sea but close to land. In the corner of the room was a gravestone with the date (written like this)

July 07 2007

Apparently that's the date according to the Bible (revelations) that the world will end or will mark the beginning of the third world war. Not sure if it is actually in the Bible or not but that's what I hear. shrug

johnjimjones

19-07-2006 20:52:41

It was a good run guys. roll

jy3

19-07-2006 20:53:14

things change quickly, especially the way our foreign policy has been

i wasnt saying it would be soon nor i am i overnervous, but i see it happening.

johnjimjones

19-07-2006 20:59:52

[quote3e2e2d84aa="Albert Einstein"]I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.[/quote3e2e2d84aa]

geej86

19-07-2006 21:28:59

violence fucking blows



quaker4life

ragefu

19-07-2006 21:31:26

Does Australia even have an army? I don't think they'd play much of a part in any war

justinag06

19-07-2006 21:32:11

they fought in the most recent Iraq one...

ILoveToys

19-07-2006 21:40:07

[quote82768967ed="ragefu"]Does Australia even have an army? I don't think they'd play much of a part in any war[/quote82768967ed]

Maybe they wouldn't provide manpower, but It seems like a nice lil island to port a whole stockpile to use against China if need be.....

ffactoryxx

19-07-2006 22:24:50

Your forgetting Israel on our side who's army is insane and airforce just fuckin sick. They use the same weapons as us but add better tech to them.

But on the WW3 side, I don't see it happening. If it does happen, WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones

theysayjump

19-07-2006 22:49:46

[quote3ba9d5955b="ffactoryxx"]But on the WW3 side, I don't see it happening. If it does happen, WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones[/quote3ba9d5955b]

[quote3ba9d5955b="johnjimjones"][quote3ba9d5955b="Albert Einstein"]I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.[/quote3ba9d5955b][/quote3ba9d5955b]

wink

Wolfeman

19-07-2006 23:13:38

Media loves fear...

Samx

19-07-2006 23:14:41

of course it is. god damn arabs are crazy man, i think there bored thats y there doing this haha.

Wolfeman

19-07-2006 23:16:12

Don't be racist and NO REF LINKS ALLOWED!

nicd.01

19-07-2006 23:21:40

And what does Newt have to gain from convincing people this is WW3? Anyone?

CoMpFrEaK

19-07-2006 23:22:42

I doubt WW3 would happen since many of the indicators of WW1/WW2 are no longer present. The United States is a super power and other nations have no way of competing with us. For the most part many of them have given up.

Wolfeman

19-07-2006 23:24:38

[quote216e32c38e="nicd.01"]And what does Newt have to gain from convincing people this is WW3? Anyone?[/quote216e32c38e]
You scare people enough you get to control them. V for Vendetta isn't just a movie...

JordanE

20-07-2006 00:02:02

Our enemys arin't stupid (well most of them anyway) North Korea is about as pathetic as it gets. Iran dosen't have WMD's (yet) and in all likely hood probably wont any time soon. Afghanistan & Iraq don't have much of a military anymore just random terrorist organizations (al qaeda -sp? and the taliban) who are in no position to fight a war on the scale of WWIII any time soon.

Unless they have a death wish I don't see them raging WWIII any time soon.

nicd.01

20-07-2006 00:08:13

[quote20f79fe345="Wolfeman"][quote20f79fe345="nicd.01"]And what does Newt have to gain from convincing people this is WW3? Anyone?[/quote20f79fe345]
You scare people enough you get to control them. V for Vendetta isn't just a movie...[/quote20f79fe345]

I was really talking about the midterm elections but you're correct as well.

theysayjump

20-07-2006 02:02:36

North Korea may not have the capabilities that the US or its allies does, but over 1 million people in its army is pretty heavy.

h3x

20-07-2006 02:18:03

[quoteab4da680a3="CoMpFrEaK"]I doubt WW3 would happen since many of the indicators of WW1/WW2 are no longer present. The United States is a super power and other nations have no way of competing with us. For the most part many of them have given up.[/quoteab4da680a3]

China is also a super power.. and even though it looks like we're allies in the eyes of the public, we are bitter rivals.

If the U.S. was to ever take Taiwan's side and tell them they have the right to become a soverign nation and that we got their back, China would bomb the shit out of Taiwan and that could spark a third World War.

I know that the U.S. would never do that... But anything is possible.

Religious content below (Don't start anything with me about religion, this thread doesn't need to go off-topic like a certain thread about loaning $20. I'm merely stating my personal views)

[spoilerab4da680a3]I firmly believe that if Israel was to be destroyed, that would spark a third World War and also mark the end of humanity. If the promised land is destroyed, the rest of the world will follow.[/spoilerab4da680a3]

theysayjump

20-07-2006 02:30:35

[quoteb18eb9bf1c="h3x"]Religious content below (Don't start anything with me about religion, this thread doesn't need to go off-topic like a certain thread about loaning $20. I'm merely stating my personal views)

[spoilerb18eb9bf1c]I firmly believe that if Israel was to be destroyed, that would spark a third World War and also mark the end of humanity. If the promised land is destroyed, the rest of the world will follow.[/spoilerb18eb9bf1c][/quoteb18eb9bf1c]

I know you stated to not get off-topic, but it's a bit difficult when you make a statement assuming that the rest of the world considers Israel as"the promised land". shrug

h3x

20-07-2006 02:41:28

I never said that the rest of the world believes Isreal is the promised land. I said that I personally believe that if Israel was to be destroyed (which I consider the promised land), the rest of the world will follow (meaning destroyed). Again, this is solely my belief and I don't want to convince others of this or attack anyone else's beliefs.

JUNIOR6886

20-07-2006 04:58:02

[quote297cf331b9="h3x"]I never said that the rest of the world believes Isreal is the promised land. I said that I personally believe that if Israel was to be destroyed (which I consider the promised land), the rest of the world will follow (meaning destroyed). Again, this is solely my belief and I don't want to convince others of this or attack anyone else's beliefs.[/quote297cf331b9]

interesting.... i always assumed the destruction of either Israel or palastine would bring an end to the confilct altogether. With one side completely victorious (hopefully israel but the point is one side) there would be dare i say "peace in teh middle east"

CollidgeGraduit

20-07-2006 05:15:10

[quotea0311e6434="h3x"]I never said that the rest of the world believes Isreal is the promised land. I said that I personally believe that if Israel was to be destroyed (which I consider the promised land), the rest of the world will follow (meaning destroyed). Again, this is solely my belief and I don't want to convince others of this or attack anyone else's beliefs.[/quotea0311e6434]

Yup, it is the Promised Land in the sense that God promised it to the Jewish people. On another biblical note, no there are no solid dates given in the Bible. In fact, Christ's return is to come as a thief in the night. Otherwise, Christians would be inclined to wait to work until right before his return... like if your boss is out of the office, and he could come back any day now. There are signs given to indicate the end of the world, but most of them can be interpreted in a number of ways, and there's nothing saying that the end of the world will come right away after the first time the signs occur.

Godrockdj

20-07-2006 08:18:43

[quotec378123515="CollidgeGraduit"][quotec378123515="h3x"]I never said that the rest of the world believes Isreal is the promised land. I said that I personally believe that if Israel was to be destroyed (which I consider the promised land), the rest of the world will follow (meaning destroyed). Again, this is solely my belief and I don't want to convince others of this or attack anyone else's beliefs.[/quotec378123515]

Yup, it is the Promised Land in the sense that God promised it to the Jewish people. On another biblical note, no there are no solid dates given in the Bible. In fact, Christ's return is to come as a thief in the night. Otherwise, Christians would be inclined to wait to work until right before his return... like if your boss is out of the office, and he could come back any day now. There are signs given to indicate the end of the world, but most of them can be interpreted in a number of ways, and there's nothing saying that the end of the world will come right away after the first time the signs occur.[/quotec378123515]

Quick, look busy, Jesus is coming! lol

On a more serious note. The nation of Isreal will play a critical role in the future. When and in what capacity that will be still remains murky. Are WWIII and the possible 'end of the world' going to coincide? Possibly. 7/7/07? Again it is possible, but no much more so than any other date, in my opinion. The numbers 777 do have significance but it's often misinterpreted.

syriandoode

20-07-2006 09:44:39

I dont see a World War, rather just a Middle East War with participants who are and are not from the Middle East

Wolfeman

20-07-2006 10:12:39

[quoted828fdf2d1="Godrockdj"]Quick, look busy, Jesus is coming! lol [/quoted828fdf2d1]
BEST QUOTE EVER!!!!!!

JJPRO11

20-07-2006 11:02:30

i thought 2012 was supposed to be the... twisted "end of the world" twisted

johnjimjones

20-07-2006 11:23:59

07/07/07 according to this logic

http//armageddononline.tripod.com/bible.htm

CollidgeGraduit

20-07-2006 11:33:13

[quote0fe772c9fe="johnjimjones"]07/07/07 according to this logic

http//armageddononline.tripod.com/bible.htm[/quote0fe772c9fe]

That's an awful lot of assumptions on the meaning of the passage about fig leaves. Besides, who's to say that Israel couldn't be destroyed this time.. and in 300 years finally get their land back, then when that nation is attacked, it would signal the end times?

JUNIOR6886

20-07-2006 11:40:29

just great.... im not even 21 and the world is gonna end soon shock
I HAVEN'T EVEN LIVED YET cry

drummer_kew_03

20-07-2006 12:01:51

The bible also says there will be a time of peace when there is peace in the middle east, kind of like a calm before the storm.

justinag06

20-07-2006 12:53:05

They recently discovered that 666 isn't the demonic number everyone thought it was. It is actually 616.

johnjimjones

20-07-2006 13:10:42

apparently so

http//www.religionnewsblog.com/11134

Veek

20-07-2006 13:20:43

[quotef978312910="Wolfeman"][quotef978312910="Godrockdj"]Quick, look busy, Jesus is coming! lol [/quotef978312910]
BEST QUOTE EVER!!!!!![/quotef978312910]

IAWTC.

Tholek

20-07-2006 14:39:24

If TSJrodamus predicts it, it's gotta be true. D

As for Israel, it is considered the promised land by christians, and that's the most popular religion (Islam a close second, yes?), so I didn't think it wasn't that much of a stretch. ;)

good2speed

20-07-2006 15:27:30

[quote87d572f25a="h3x"][quote87d572f25a="CoMpFrEaK"]I doubt WW3 would happen since many of the indicators of WW1/WW2 are no longer present. The United States is a super power and other nations have no way of competing with us. For the most part many of them have given up.[/quote87d572f25a]

China is also a super power.. and even though it looks like we're allies in the eyes of the public, we are bitter rivals.

If the U.S. was to ever take Taiwan's side and tell them they have the right to become a soverign nation and that we got their back, China would bomb the shit out of Taiwan and that could spark a third World War.

I know that the U.S. would never do that... But anything is possible.

Religious content below (Don't start anything with me about religion, this thread doesn't need to go off-topic like a certain thread about loaning $20. I'm merely stating my personal views)

[spoiler87d572f25a]I firmly believe that if Israel was to be destroyed, that would spark a third World War and also mark the end of humanity. If the promised land is destroyed, the rest of the world will follow.[/spoiler87d572f25a][/quote87d572f25a]

Taiwan is a soverign nation. Thats why China is trying so hard to take it over. They feel that they will be whole once they reaquire Taiwan.

good2speed

20-07-2006 15:28:13

[quote0b53ea45ad="JUNIOR6886"]just great.... im not even 21 and the world is gonna end soon shock
I HAVEN'T EVEN LIVED YET cry[/quote0b53ea45ad]

Would be the best for everyone involved. lol lol JK

theysayjump

20-07-2006 15:39:36

If my dream even comes remotely close to being true......I'm.........I'll......... cry

syriandoode

20-07-2006 15:43:50

have you guys heard about those Israelis living out of Israel that are returning back to Israel in order to "get involved"? its not just young men either its whole families from what ive heard

theysayjump

20-07-2006 15:45:43

Doesn't the Bible say something about 144,000 Jews returning to Israel in the end times or for the end times or something like that?

Maybe it was the Left Behind books that said that. Same thing though. wink

JUNIOR6886

20-07-2006 18:14:41

[quote868e23e837="theysayjump"]Doesn't the Bible say something about 144,000 Jews returning to Israel in the end times or for the end times or something like that?

Maybe it was the Left Behind books that said that. Same thing though. wink[/quote868e23e837]

I remember reading something about 144,000 people being saved in a jehovas witnesses book roll

Calm before the storm? wasnt there a year of relative peace in israel when they left gaza...

BTW it looks like the Iranians were in North Korea during the july 4th launches.... and Israel is about to go on a full on ground assault on southern Leabanon in order to ensure the peace and safety of Northern Israeli Citizens.

CoMpFrEaK

20-07-2006 18:30:16

[quotec918362c69="h3x"][quotec918362c69="CoMpFrEaK"]I doubt WW3 would happen since many of the indicators of WW1/WW2 are no longer present. The United States is a super power and other nations have no way of competing with us. For the most part many of them have given up.[/quotec918362c69]

China is also a super power.. and even though it looks like we're allies in the eyes of the public, we are bitter rivals.

If the U.S. was to ever take Taiwan's side and tell them they have the right to become a soverign nation and that we got their back, China would bomb the shit out of Taiwan and that could spark a third World War.

I know that the U.S. would never do that... But anything is possible.

Religious content below (Don't start anything with me about religion, this thread doesn't need to go off-topic like a certain thread about loaning $20. I'm merely stating my personal views)

[spoilerc918362c69]I firmly believe that if Israel was to be destroyed, that would spark a third World War and also mark the end of humanity. If the promised land is destroyed, the rest of the world will follow.[/spoilerc918362c69][/quotec918362c69]

I was born in Taiwan wink

I should have offered more clarification. The United States has i believe 6 super aircraft carriers. In the past other countries have attempted to match this power though non were able to. Now other countries don't even try. Either way, a China vs US war would basically be a rerun of the Cold War. China has the power to nuke the US though it would suffer utter destruction if that happened. If you take a look at Chinas geography most of its population rests within a few major cities such as bejing (spelling?) and shanghi (spelling?), while compared to the US we have many cities. The US probably has the power to land troops on mainland China, though i dunno if the same can be said for China landing troops on the US. Anyways, enough of my ranting. P

h3x

21-07-2006 01:42:50

Last year, China passed an anti-secession bill that allowed them to attack Taiwan if it secedes.

All it takes is for Taiwan's Independance party to gain control of the government and pass an independance clause declaring they are independent from China and are a soverign nation.

Taiwan has already renamed some of their military documents by removing the word China and putting in Taiwan. I was watching the situation in China/Taiwan carefully last year as that was when things were starting to heat up and with last year's Taiwanese elections and all, I wanted to know if China would make an attack and what we would do about it. There was very little coverage of the issue. Though, Lou Dobbs did talk about it a bit. He's covers China becoming a super power and their issues very often.

syriandoode

21-07-2006 02:03:43

on top of that guess whos peddling weapons to Taiwan