dmorris68...I'm calling you out!

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schizerbone

13-07-2006 09:20:30

Sorry, just had to say that...I needed your reply because you're the TV guy around here. Anyway, OC is willing to let me get the following TV... the Samsung HL-S5086W. Is this a good TV? I've read reviews and they were mixed on cnet. I could also get the one with the pedestal --> Samsung HL-P5085W. What do you think?

jy3

13-07-2006 09:37:32

i am not the man you are looking for but... I recommend you find a store and go play around with it. do they have it at circuit city?

Wolfeman

13-07-2006 09:40:22

Its DLP and has lots of good features like 2 HDMI but its only 720p (

jy3

13-07-2006 10:05:15

oh if it is only 720p i would avoid that. you want at least 1080i if not something that is capable of doing 1080p.

Wolfeman

13-07-2006 10:07:44

I can't even tell the difference between 720p and 1080i. Its a nice TV other than that. Lots of inputs...

schizerbone

13-07-2006 10:08:26

I see this

Supported DTV Resolutions 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i

jy3

13-07-2006 10:13:36

[quote66363a421a="Wolfeman"]I can't even tell the difference between 720p and 1080i. Its a nice TV other than that. Lots of inputs...[/quote66363a421a]

i dont know, i think i can see a difference on mine but maybe it is just me )

Wolfeman

13-07-2006 10:15:03

[quote1da66857a8="schizerbone"]I see this

Supported DTV Resolutions 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i[/quote1da66857a8]
I don't see that. I'm pretty sure its 720p.

A LOT of people think 720p is better than 1080i because its progressive not interlaced. Especially when watching fast moving things like sports...
http//alvyray.com/DigitalTV/Naming_Proposal.htm[]http//alvyray.com/DigitalTV/Naming_Proposal.htm

hehehhehe

13-07-2006 10:35:05

[quoteacfb7e7037="Wolfeman"][quoteacfb7e7037="schizerbone"]I see this

Supported DTV Resolutions 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i[/quoteacfb7e7037]
I don't see that. I'm pretty sure its 720p.

A LOT of people think 720p is better than 1080i because its progressive not interlaced. Especially when watching fast moving things like sports...
http//alvyray.com/DigitalTV/Naming_Proposal.htm[]http//alvyray.com/DigitalTV/Naming_Proposal.htm[/quoteacfb7e7037]
That just means the TV can take 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i but will obviously output in 720p (since the TV's resolution is 720). A lot of LCDs have vertical resolution of 768 and they do the same.

As for 720p vs. 1080i, I wouldn't say one is better than the other (each has its pros and cons) but everybody has their opinion.

jy3

13-07-2006 10:35:16

that is true. if you can get 1080p capability that may look nicer than 1080i...once it comes out

hehehhehe

13-07-2006 10:37:21

[quote2fad48c72b="jy3"]that is true. if you can get 1080p capability that may look nicer than 1080i...once it comes out[/quote2fad48c72b]
Well of course 1080p will look better than 1080i.

Wolfeman

13-07-2006 10:38:59

Yeah and 1080p TVs are super expensive.

justinag06

13-07-2006 10:59:09

yeah they just recently came out with them, and theres not even anything you can watch being broadcast at that resolution. 720p and 1080i are very similar. Most people probably can't even tell a difference, I prefer 720p personally

KeithA

13-07-2006 11:16:27

[quotef6a63b1ce7="justinag06"]yeah they just recently came out with them, and theres not even anything you can watch being broadcast at that resolution. 720p and 1080i are very similar. Most people probably can't even tell a difference, I prefer 720p personally[/quotef6a63b1ce7]

I agree. I'm glad everybody else chimed in on this--you saved me the energy of typing my thoughts.

I am convinced that nobody need concern themselves with 1080p televisions unless they're considering a 50" or larger panel, by the way.

dmorris68

13-07-2006 11:30:07

All 720p TV's are capable of 1080i. 1080i will sometimes look better than 720p depending on the TV and signal, but it's not much difference if any.

Until HD and BluRay players, nothing on the consumer market outputs 1080p. However that doesn't mean there is no benefit to having a 1080p display -- on the contrary. A 1080i source still contains 1080 lines of resolution, it's just normaly interlaced and only displaying 720 lines per frame, such that half the image is in one frame and half is in the next frame. A 1080p set, like my Sony SXRD, will deinterlace and combine those frames, displaying all 1080 lines in one frame, which is a noticeable improvement over the standard 1080 interlaced display.

As far as that specific TV, Samsung makes the best DLP's in my opinion. So you won't be sorry, however you will be stuck at 720p/1080i. But if this is a freebie you probably don't have a choice of 1080p sets if they're keeping the price in this range, so I think you'd be happy with it.

JUNIOR6886

13-07-2006 11:49:50

On my LG TV from EveryFreeGift The difference between 720p and 1080i is clear. 1080i looks much better to me. Higher quality > higher frame rates in my eyes

chillywilly

13-07-2006 12:09:11

Thanks to all for their input. I learned a lot more than I used to about the difference between 720p and 1080i.

The model I've been looking at is the Philips 37PF7320A.

Any input on this one? It's LCD not plasma, but it looks nice. And it's under $1300 (maybe some DIY site is offering it... not sure). I just started looking at HDTVs the last month or so.

dmorris68

13-07-2006 12:17:33

[quoteeb1780668c="chillywilly"]Thanks to all for their input. I learned a lot more than I used to about the difference between 720p and 1080i.

The model I've been looking at is the Philips 37PF7320A.

Any input on this one? It's LCD not plasma, but it looks nice. And it's under $1300 (maybe some DIY site is offering it... not sure). I just started looking at HDTVs the last month or so.[/quoteeb1780668c]
Look at it in the store first, if at all possible. I'm not a big fan of LCD televisions, but at 37" and smaller they tend to do pretty well even across the cheaper models. Larger than that, and you find more poor quality sets than good, with the good ones being pretty expensive. The cheaper large LCD panels are very prone to artifacting, pixellation, ghosting, and uneven color reproduction. Screen door effect is also a problem with larger LCD displays, but typically not with 37" and smaller.

I've seen a junk Polaroid 32" LCD at WallyWorld look damn good compared to some 42-50" LCD's by RCA/Magnavox/Philips and other bigger but lower-end names. So you're probably good with that 37" Phillips, but I certainly wouldn't buy it sight-unseen.

dmorris68

13-07-2006 12:18:35

[quotee9989f9507="jy3"]that is true. if you can get 1080p capability that may look nicer than 1080i...once it comes out[/quotee9989f9507]
Oh, and 1080p sets have been out for at least a year now, and coming down in price. My SXRD is 1080p and MSRP has dropped $1000 since the first of the year.

Wolfeman

13-07-2006 12:20:35

Stop bragging about your SXRD P

dmorris68

13-07-2006 12:24:18

[quote317d277d6f="Wolfeman"]Stop bragging about your SXRD P[/quote317d277d6f]
But... but... I can't! It's just so purdy! P ;)

chillywilly

13-07-2006 13:39:04

[quotec30fe775d8="dmorris68"]I've seen a junk Polaroid 32" LCD at WallyWorld look damn good compared to some 42-50" LCD's by RCA/Magnavox/Philips and other bigger but lower-end names. So you're probably good with that 37" Phillips, but I certainly wouldn't buy it sight-unseen.[/quotec30fe775d8]
Oh, I plan to go look at it first... any TV I plan on purchasing for that matter.

Thanks for the details on the LCD. I had done some research on them, and knew that LCD above 40" had some of the issues you listed.

My g/f wants one that hangs on the wall and I assume LCD draws less power than plasma screens.

I'll see if any local stores have it here to go look at.