Connecting two computers...

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DrkWarlock

11-07-2006 10:17:55

So my friend wants to get some music files off of her laptop to transfer to her new one but unfortunately, her CD/DVD drive is a ROM. I was wondering now if it was possible to hook up my laptop to hers so that I may transfer the files on to mine and then burn her a disc. Would I be able to use a USB cable between the two or perhaps an ethernet cable? If not, how would I go about doing this?

Thanks
-Drk

geej86

11-07-2006 10:23:24

yea i think you want an ethernet cable, make sure it's a crossover cable.

MSG

11-07-2006 11:00:07

geej86 is right. It has to be an ethernet crossover cable, not a regular ethernet patch cable.

Wolfeman

11-07-2006 11:39:13

[quoteeb82959d48="MSG"]geej86 is right. It has to be an ethernet crossover cable, not a regular ethernet patch cable.[/quoteeb82959d48]
Even with that its still a pain in the ass. Use a hub, router, or switch...

chewy

11-07-2006 11:51:31

[quote21aa70a110="Wolfeman"][quote21aa70a110="MSG"]geej86 is right. It has to be an ethernet crossover cable, not a regular ethernet patch cable.[/quote21aa70a110]
Even with that its still a pain in the ass. Use a hub, router, or switch...[/quote21aa70a110]

agreed

Wolfeman

11-07-2006 11:53:48

You have to make IPs static and some other crap. I just remember being annoyed and grabbing my old crappy hub to do it...

geej86

11-07-2006 11:56:28

i have my xbox hooked up to my comp via crossover, using a ftp client its easy as pie. but yea i remember get frustrated dealing with ip settings and such, I am no haxt3r bbq

tylerc

11-07-2006 11:57:57

It can be solved in 2 easy steps

1. Tell your friend to get a CD burner for $5 at her local carwash, they are that common now.

2. Burn CDs.

dmorris68

11-07-2006 12:15:52

IP settings would be the same whether you use a crossover cable, a switch, or a hub -- without a DHCP server to hand out dynamic IP's, you still have to set a static. Which isn't hard, ya wimps. P Actually, Windows will assign random IP's from its private pool most of the time.

Wolfie, if you didn't have to set IP's, then you must have used a router with a DHCP server enabled. That or you just lucked out with different auto-assigned Windows IP's in the 169.xx.xx.xx subnet range.

If the hub and 2 patch cables are handy, fine, but a crossover cable should be no more difficult than a hub or switch. If you don't have one, make your own or grab a cheap crossover from a store.

DrkWarlock

11-07-2006 12:45:41

Ok ok. Now if I connect the two via a crossover cable, is there anything else I need to do? Or can I immediately start sharing files?

Sorry, I am a newb at this stuff, lol.

-Drk

Wolfeman

11-07-2006 13:08:08

But if there is no DHCP they'll get APIPA which is 169.254.X.X with the subnet 255.255.0.0 so they'll be on the same subnet. You need to be in the same workgroup as well...

s3mp3rfi

11-07-2006 13:16:38

[quote6b830dd051="DrkWarlock"]Ok ok. Now if I connect the two via a crossover cable, is there anything else I need to do? Or can I immediately start sharing files?

Sorry, I am a newb at this stuff, lol.

-Drk[/quote6b830dd051]u connect the 2 pcs right! then on the new computer put the iP addy to 192.168.0.1 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 leave the other fields bank, and on the other computer put IP addy to 192.168.0.2 and subnet to 255.255.255.0

take off all firewalls

then, on the new computer type \\192.168.0.2 in run, and ur good!

edit if it doesn't connect or it does and u don't see anything, u might have set the drive(s) on the old computer to shared.

DrkWarlock

11-07-2006 14:48:23

[quoteae87a95dc9="s3mp3rfi"][quoteae87a95dc9="DrkWarlock"]Ok ok. Now if I connect the two via a crossover cable, is there anything else I need to do? Or can I immediately start sharing files?

Sorry, I am a newb at this stuff, lol.

-Drk[/quoteae87a95dc9]u connect the 2 pcs right! then on the new computer put the iP addy to 192.168.0.1 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 leave the other fields bank, and on the other computer put IP addy to 192.168.0.2 and subnet to 255.255.255.0

take off all firewalls

then, on the new computer type \\192.168.0.2 in run, and ur good!

edit if it doesn't connect or it does and u don't see anything, u might have set the drive(s) on the old computer to shared.[/quoteae87a95dc9]

Alright sounds simple enough. Now how will I be able to get into the other computer from mine? Like will hers show up as a removeable device or something that I can go into?

Wolfeman

11-07-2006 14:51:33

You gotta share the folders you want to access and make sure you are both in the same workgroup...

s3mp3rfi

11-07-2006 15:51:48

[quote8cdb542043="DrkWarlock"]Alright sounds simple enough. Now how will I be able to get into the other computer from mine? Like will hers show up as a removeable device or something that I can go into?[/quote8cdb542043]

after you type \\192.168.0.2 into run, you should see a screen like this
http//dfe.phpnet.us/s.jpg[" alt=""/img8cdb542043]
now uh, it says \\192.168.0.200 becuase that's my fileserver but anyway yours should look similar to that, probably with only two folders.

if you cant figure out how to share the drive(s) on the old computer, read here
http//www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/filesharing.htm
but don't read past the line "Hiding a Shared Disk or Folder" as it may confuse you!

[quote8cdb542043="Wolfeman"]make sure you are both in the same workgroup...[/quote8cdb542043]
That is incorrect.

dmorris68

11-07-2006 16:17:24

You won't see any drive shares other than Shared Documents, until you actually share them first.

If you have her login (with Administrator privileges) you can access the admin shares (C$, D$, etc.) without sharing something. But probably the easiest way is just right-click on the drive or folder and select "Sharing..." from the menu. Give it a name and you're done.

If they're on the same subnet (and in this case they would be) any workgroup will suffice, and the default is WORKGROUP anyway so you should both already be on that one.

DrkWarlock

11-07-2006 18:27:39

Ok, thanks for the responses guys! I will try this out soon and if I need any more help I know where to go.

Thanks again!
-Drk

TFOAF

11-07-2006 18:41:06

You just gotta put her on the same workspace as your laptop, connect the cables, enable sharing on both hard drivers. Voila, click and drag. ;)

jy3

11-07-2006 20:31:21

what about the old null cables?
http//www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/null_modem_cable.html
or a direct cable connection?
http//www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/wxpdccin.htm
always found direct cables to work well ;)

dmorris68

11-07-2006 21:18:56

[quote0230876a7f="jy3"]what about the old null cables?
http//www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/null_modem_cable.html
or a direct cable connection?
http//www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/wxpdccin.htm
always found direct cables to work well ;)[/quote0230876a7f]
shock

Good Lord, that's slower than molasses in the wintertime compared to Ethernet.

Talk about a blast from the past I used to build the parallel LapLink/DCC cables back in the DOS/Win31 and early Win95 days when nobody had NIC's. LapLink wanted like $60 for a set of cables, I'd build and sell them for $30 and only have $5 worth of materials in them. )

The need for those cables is all but extinct today, thankfully. Everything today has a NIC, CAT5 cables are compact and easier to carry, and so much faster.

jy3

12-07-2006 06:09:43

oh yeah they are slow, but they work. good to have a pair around if u cant get the other methods to work )