this is pathetic...

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=36738

shopaholic

04-04-2006 19:37:46

but I have to say that I got my new VS catalog today and I noticed FOR THE FIRST TIME that they had an asian model in it!!! it was on p.68. I know this may not be much interest to some, but it's a pretty big dealio for us asians... or I think. I had to go email my sister and cousins. hahaa. Anyways, I found the link online too...

arrow Link[=http//www2.victoriassecret.com/commerce/application/prodDisplay/catview/TQ/?namespace=productDisplay&origin=CatViewLink.jsp&event=CatViewLink&prnbr=TQ-191557&cgname=OSCATNAVZZZ&cvpage=p68p69&page_nbr=68&page_key=a]Link

I'm glad asians are starting to represent. D


edit- i think i shrink the link correctly, or i hope i did

bballp6699

04-04-2006 19:38:43

Shrinkinate your linker please.

Veek

04-04-2006 19:41:57

Um, no.

If more Asians had the type of bodies that Victoria's Secret looks for, they would be in there. It has nothing to do with their race, so let's not pull that card. Notice how a lot of their models are Brazilian? Who doesn't want slim, toned, non-anorexic looking models with killer legs?

shopaholic

04-04-2006 19:42:13

what is and how do u "shrinkinate"?

unknown uchiha

04-04-2006 19:44:07

Hot =X

shopaholic

04-04-2006 19:48:18

[quote7c87b39736="Veek"]Um, no.

If more Asians had the type of bodies that Victoria's Secret looks for, they would be in there. It has nothing to do with their race, so let's not pull that card. Notice how a lot of their models are Brazilian? Who doesn't want slim, toned, non-anorexic looking models with killer legs?[/quote7c87b39736]

what do you mean "pull that card"?? did i make any comments about being disadvantage b/c i'm asian or the likes? i definitely didnt say VS hated asians. hahaahahaa i simply said i was glad to see an asian girl making it in the magazine. there's not many asians in the media b/c there just aren't many going that path, so it's always really exciting for me (and my sis and cousins) when we see pretty asians in places we haven't before. so please don't pull [i7c87b39736]that[/i7c87b39736] card on me. lol

bballp6699

04-04-2006 19:50:11

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Veek

04-04-2006 19:55:38

[quotef8e1b7733d="shopaholic"][quotef8e1b7733d="Veek"]Um, no.

If more Asians had the type of bodies that Victoria's Secret looks for, they would be in there. It has nothing to do with their race, so let's not pull that card. Notice how a lot of their models are Brazilian? Who doesn't want slim, toned, non-anorexic looking models with killer legs?[/quotef8e1b7733d]

what do you mean "pull that card"?? did i make any comments about being disadvantage b/c i'm asian or the likes? i definitely didnt say VS hated asians. hahaahahaa i simply said i was glad to see an asian girl making it in the magazine. there's not many asians in the media b/c there just aren't many going that path, so it's always really exciting for me (and my sis and cousins) when we see pretty asians in places we haven't before. so please don't pull [if8e1b7733d]that[/if8e1b7733d] card on me. lol[/quotef8e1b7733d]

You clearly didn't see my point. I did not say anything about Victoria's Secret hating Asians, or what you thought it was a disadvantage. What I'm saying is that you'd see "more Asians represent" [bf8e1b7733d]if they had the type of body Victoria's Secret looks for.[/bf8e1b7733d] I really don't see how it's a big deal. And yes, she's pretty.

shopaholic

04-04-2006 20:01:54

why would you say that? every race has different types of body. no PARTICULAR body type goes with any particular race! i see skinny asians, fat asians, medium asians, etc. thats really an ignorant comment.

Veek

04-04-2006 20:04:50

[quotede2f80fb05="shopaholic"]why would you say that? every race has different types of body. no PARTICULAR body type goes with any particular race! i see skinny asians, fat asians, medium asians, etc. thats really an ignorant comment.[/quotede2f80fb05]

Are you skimming through my posts? I don't care what kind of body Asians have and I know different races have different body types. I'm talking from the viewpoint of Victoria's Secret. I've seen what kind of models they go for, and what they don't. Don't put words in my mouth, and surely, I'm not the ignorant in this conversation.

KeithA

04-04-2006 20:06:35

I am too fat, lazy, and caucasian to follow conversations like this.

nicd.01

04-04-2006 20:08:59

Just because they have fake tits and bend their bodies so they look "curvy" doesn't mean the models don't have eating disorders. From the amount of rib cage I've seen from skimming the site I'd say something is up.

bballp6699

04-04-2006 20:09:15

I don't understand the title. Why is it pathetic? I thought that would be a good thing?

tjwor

04-04-2006 20:10:01

[quotee87dc2602a="bballp6699"]I don't understand the title. Why is it pathetic? I thought that would be a good thing?[/quotee87dc2602a]

I think she was assuming there would be a pathetic argument...

















She was Correct lol

Veek

04-04-2006 20:10:40

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She doesn't look like she has an eating disorder.

bballp6699

04-04-2006 20:11:17

[code1f300b6b3ad][url==http://www.iamaverylonglinkthatbballp6699isannoyedby]Asian People Weeeeeeee[=http://www.iamaverylonglinkthatbballp6699isannoyedby]Asian People Weeeeeeee[/url][/code1f300b6b3ad]

Edit your link in the first post to say that is what I meant by shrinkage.

shopaholic

04-04-2006 20:12:05

"If more Asians had the type of bodies that Victoria's Secret looks for...Who doesn't want slim, toned, non-anorexic looking models with killer legs?"

quote from you. so, you are saying most asians do not have the type of bodies you would consider nice.. they dont have, as you would say, "slim, toned... etc" did i read that sentence wrong?

[ie505af7132]that[/ie505af7132] is stereotypical. how about i say if <insert particular race> had the intelligence a managerial position needs, we would have more of that kind of race in that position.

hahaha [ue505af7132]please[/ue505af7132] tell me that doesnt sound ignorant.

unknown uchiha

04-04-2006 20:12:13

Yeah this is a good thing, right? But then again I guess it's more like saying "Oh yeah Abercrombie just got a black model."

BTW off topic, but Hollister now has a black model. They place his portrait in the far back though by Clearance O_O

Back on subject, I think VS does the whole "hot or not" thing. If a person is "hot" enough, then they can pose for Victoria's Secret. It's the same how we have things here at A&F.

shopaholic

04-04-2006 20:15:28

[quote8c271b6afd="bballp6699"]I don't understand the title. Why is it pathetic? I thought that would be a good thing?[/quote8c271b6afd]

I meant [b8c271b6afd]I'm[/b8c271b6afd] (along with my sis and female cousins) pathetic that we are excited to see this pretty asian girl in the VS mag. we always get excited seeing pretty asian girls in any type of media.

Veek

04-04-2006 20:16:03

[quote4a0f3f9b18="shopaholic"]"If more Asians had the type of bodies that Victoria's Secret looks for...Who doesn't want slim, toned, non-anorexic looking models with killer legs?"

quote from you. so, you are saying most asians do not have the type of bodies you would consider nice.. they dont have, as you would say, "slim, toned... etc" did i read that sentence wrong?

[i4a0f3f9b18]that[/i4a0f3f9b18] is stereotypical. how about i say if <insert particular race> had the intelligence a managerial position needs, we would have more of that kind of race in that position.

hahaha [u4a0f3f9b18]please[/u4a0f3f9b18] tell me that doesnt sound ignorant.[/quote4a0f3f9b18]


[b4a0f3f9b18]If more Asians had the type of bodies that Victoria's Secret looks for, they would be in there. [u4a0f3f9b18]It has nothing to do with their race, so let's not pull that card. Notice how a lot of their models are Brazilian? Who doesn't want slim, toned, non-anorexic looking models with killer legs?[/u4a0f3f9b18][/b4a0f3f9b18]

Don't edit my quote to your advantage, you easily lose all credibility. I mentioned most of their models being Brazilian because of the LOOK that they have. THAT look is what Victoria's Secret wants, not me. And it's not what I consider to be nice, it's what Victoria's Secret considers to be nice. Don't try to put words in my mouth, it's not going to work. Get it? Good.

This has nothing to do with brains, but rather a particular look that Victoria's Secret WANTS. If an Asian makes it into Victoria's Scret, fucking awesome, but there are reasons why you don't see more of them. What part of that do you not understand?

unknown uchiha

04-04-2006 20:17:25

Oh I understand now.

Yeah it's kinda stupid how society has marketed us to only seeing attractive, rich white people in the media. You shouldn't feel pathetic for getting excited to see an Asian in the magazine because it is uncommon in our American society.

Brok3n_Sword

04-04-2006 20:18:10

[quote30406c1893="bballp6699"][code130406c1893][url==http://www.iamaverylonglinkthatbballp6699isannoyedby]Asian People Weeeeeeee[=http://www.iamaverylonglinkthatbballp6699isannoyedby]Asian People Weeeeeeee[/url][/code130406c1893]

Edit your link in the first post to say that is what I meant by shrinkage.[/quote30406c1893]

LMAO. Just wanted you to know you brightened my day. +kma lol

bballp6699

04-04-2006 20:18:50

I see Asians on TV all the time. Iron Chef is the shit. What about Maximum Extreme Challange...? Haha, silly Asians. cool

Edit - Before you start getting nuts, I am just joking...

johnjimjones

04-04-2006 20:19:47

[quote2e038a6cc7="shopaholic"]"If more Asians had the type of bodies that Victoria's Secret looks for...Who doesn't want slim, toned, non-anorexic looking models with killer legs?"

quote from you. so, you are saying most asians do not have the type of bodies you would consider nice.. they dont have, as you would say, "slim, toned... etc" did i read that sentence wrong?

[i2e038a6cc7]that[/i2e038a6cc7] is stereotypical. how about i say if <insert particular race> had the intelligence a managerial position needs, we would have more of that kind of race in that position.

hahaha [u2e038a6cc7]please[/u2e038a6cc7] tell me that doesnt sound ignorant.[/quote2e038a6cc7]
He said from the VS standpoint. He's not personally prejudice against Asian body types. Personally I don't see the patheticness. Every company has their look and particular people they want to represent their clothing.

ajasax

04-04-2006 20:23:46

[quote0bf57f9956="bballp6699"]I see Asians on TV all the time. Iron Chef is the shit. What about Maximum Extreme Challange...? Haha, silly Asians. cool[/quote0bf57f9956]
Isn't it Extreme Elimination Challenge?

shopaholic

04-04-2006 20:24:50

[quotef04c74c157="bballp6699"]I see Asians on TV all the time. Iron Chef is the shit. What about Maximum Extreme Challange...? Haha, silly Asians. cool

Edit - Before you start getting nuts, I am just joking...[/quotef04c74c157]

u are stupid but at least you made me laugh.


(yes, i'm just joking too)

shopaholic

04-04-2006 20:27:58

[quote208bbd3d50="johnjimjones"]He said from the VS standpoint. He's not personally prejudice against Asian body types. Personally I don't see the patheticness. Every company has their look and particular people they want to represent their clothing.[/quote208bbd3d50]

I understand the whole VS standpoint. I'm not irritated by that.. I'm irriated how he said I pulled the race card just b/c i want to post that I'm excited to see an asian in the mag. Of all people, PLEASE do not tell [i208bbd3d50]me[/i208bbd3d50] i'm pulling any race card.

Stroid

04-04-2006 20:35:14

is it just me or does the girl in the first picture look like Jaime from the Real World Sand Diego

bballp6699

04-04-2006 20:36:02

I think it's just you that still watches that shit.

shopaholic

04-04-2006 20:37:36

[quote4e69802601="Stroid"]is it just me or does the girl in the first picture look like Jaime from the Real World Sand Diego[/quote4e69802601]

yah! that was the first thing I wondered when i saw that pic!

JOSHBOX

04-04-2006 20:45:58

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shopaholic

04-04-2006 20:56:07

[quote79f2a9fa6b="Veek"]


Don't edit my quote to your advantage, you easily lose all credibility. I mentioned most of their models being Brazilian because of the LOOK that they have. THAT look is what Victoria's Secret wants, not me. And it's not what I consider to be nice, it's what Victoria's Secret considers to be nice. Don't try to put words in my mouth, it's not going to work. Get it? Good.

This has nothing to do with brains, but rather a particular look that Victoria's Secret WANTS. If an Asian makes it into Victoria's Scret, fucking awesome, but there are reasons why you don't see more of them. What part of that do you not understand?[/quote79f2a9fa6b]

HAHAHA No, I didn't understand ANYYYYYY part of it. No, I didn't "get it". hahahaha Maybe it's because I'm asian?? hahahaaa

ok so I have to talk to you at your level huh? alright, lil one.

i am so glad they started putting gay people on tv.. but u know why they didn't before right??? cause gay people just don't "have" what the tv people are looking for.. maybe they're ugly? maybe they're just dirty??? maybe its b/c the bible says they are all sinners??? i dunoo.. BUT HEY I didn't say this was MY OPINION now. I'm saying this is the tv people's opinion. I mean there WAS A reason that back then there were no gay people on tv, right?? i mean according to you, there's gotta be a reason for that.

aren't you so proud of yourself for helping me make this argument? please don't tell me its ignorant b/c you know how its not MY opinion. it's the ppl who run the shows, of course!

GET IT??? GOOD FOR YOU TOO.

bballp6699

04-04-2006 20:58:36

I don't see this ending well...

I'm getting popcorn.

johnjimjones

04-04-2006 21:04:09

[quote85b1de8c32="shopaholic"][quote85b1de8c32="Veek"]


Don't edit my quote to your advantage, you easily lose all credibility. I mentioned most of their models being Brazilian because of the LOOK that they have. THAT look is what Victoria's Secret wants, not me. And it's not what I consider to be nice, it's what Victoria's Secret considers to be nice. Don't try to put words in my mouth, it's not going to work. Get it? Good.

This has nothing to do with brains, but rather a particular look that Victoria's Secret WANTS. If an Asian makes it into Victoria's Scret, fucking awesome, but there are reasons why you don't see more of them. What part of that do you not understand?[/quote85b1de8c32]

HAHAHA No, I didn't understand ANYYYYYY part of it. No, I didn't "get it". hahahaha Maybe it's because I'm asian?? hahahaaa

ok so I have to talk to you at your level huh? alright, lil one.

i am so glad they started putting gay people on tv.. but u know why they didn't before right??? cause gay people just don't "have" what the tv people are looking for.. maybe they're ugly? maybe they're just dirty??? maybe its b/c the bible says they are all sinners??? i dunoo.. BUT HEY I didn't say this was MY OPINION now. I'm saying this is the tv people's opinion. I mean there WAS A reason that back then there were no gay people on tv, right?? i mean according to you, there's gotta be a reason for that.

aren't you so proud of yourself for helping me make this argument? please don't tell me its ignorant b/c you know how its not MY opinion. it's the ppl who run the shows, of course!

GET IT??? GOOD FOR YOU TOO.[/quote85b1de8c32]

wtf? way to go for the personal attack. Agreed not ending well at all.

bballp6699

04-04-2006 21:10:23

Don't worry shopoholic, Roger Clemens has your back.

[quoted893c03589="The Rocket"]Clemens makes insensitive remark
Roger Clemens was discussing his future Tuesday at the Astros season opener when he responded to a question about his health after the World Baseball Classic with a comment that some might consider racially insensitive.

Clemens, who broke down late last season with injuries, said he felt fine after the WBC and left the tournament impressed by the quality of the international teams.

But he made a questionable comment when speaking about the devotion of the Japanese and South Korean fans.

"None of the dry cleaners were open, they were all at the game, Japan and Korea," Clemens said. "So we couldn't get any dry cleaning done out there, but I guess the neatest thing is that 50,000 of them were at Anaheim Stadium."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. [/quoted893c03589]

Veek

04-04-2006 21:13:29

Let her JJJ, that attempt of a personal attack and insult was "pathetic." lol Ironically, it goes back to this thread.[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=30485]this thread.. Uh oh!

syriandoode

04-04-2006 21:16:06

so much violence these days... http//smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ed/BlueTeamEnforcer.gif[" alt=""/img1bced0ab02]

Nimh

04-04-2006 21:16:31

[quote47d0a86700="bballp6699"]I don't see this ending well...

I'm getting popcorn.[/quote47d0a86700]

Amen. Let's watch!

As for Roger Clemens, it simply seems to me that he's making an observation. The dry cleaners were closed because a majority of the people who own dry cleaners are Asian, and they wanted to go see the Asian teams play the American teams. I don't see how that's insensitive. It's an observation.

Stroid

04-04-2006 21:16:35

i dont feel like dealing with this tonight....lock

johnjimjones

04-04-2006 21:16:48

[quoteb3e757f287="Veek"]Let her JJJ, that attempt of a personal attack and insult was "pathetic." lol Ironically, it goes back to this thread.[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=30485]this thread.. Uh oh![/quoteb3e757f287]

/me reminds self that online forum arguments are not worth his time.

theysayjump

04-04-2006 21:17:42

Who the fuck banned PNAA??

I'd rather have him back than this twat-fest.

theysayjump

04-04-2006 21:19:20

EDIT

Just incase people get the wrong idea, I meant I'd rather have him back and posting if it meant threads like this wouldn't be born.

CollidgeGraduit

05-04-2006 04:05:14

[quotede1c106b66="shopaholic"]maybe its b/c the bible says they are all sinners???[/quotede1c106b66]

If you're going to pull the Bible card, please, please use it correctly. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 323.