Whats a good motherboard for this setup?

[b53a660d912]Case[/b53a660d912] - $60

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[b53a660d912]ThermalTake TR2 420W PSU[/b53a660d912] - $60

[img="53a660d912]http//images.tigerdirect.com/SKUimages/medium/T925-2126-main.jpg[" alt=""/img53a660d912]

[b53a660d912]Arctic Silver[/b53a660d912] - $8

[img="53a660d912]http//heatsinkfactory.com/shop/images/t_16153.jpg[" alt=""/img53a660d912]

[b53a660d912]500 GB HDD[/b53a660d912] - eBay

[b53a660d912]LiteScribe DVD Burner 16x8x16[/b53a660d912] - $160

[img="53a660d912]http//i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/b4/f8/a3_1_b.JPG[" alt=""/img53a660d912]

[b53a660d912]PCHDTV 3000 Linux HD Capture Card[/b53a660d912] - $170

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What kind of motherboard and RAM do you guys recommend? Also, recommendations on a video card (NVIDIA preferrably) for my HDTV.

What CPU?

[quoteab0c1c5b0b="Wolfeman"]What CPU?[/quoteab0c1c5b0b]

The most important question! lol

cant suggest a mobo without knowing cpu and socket type/size

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ $313
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

ASUS A8N5X ATX AMD Motherboard $90
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131569

And if you want a Lightscribe DVD Burner this one is $100 less and better IMO. Never had a single problem with my BenQ.
BenQ Black ATA/ATAPI DVD Burner With LightScribe Model DW1655 $58
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101006

Sorry, I forgot to add the CPU. that was the one I had in mind. Any suggestions on video cards for an HDTV?, I'm gonna have MythTV installed and set up an Asterisk.

Also, RAM would be good. I'm thinking Corsair.

3800+ x2 chip is somewhat high end and you wouldnt be doing it any justice putting it on that 90$ motherboard. Go with the asus sli-deluxe premium. One of the best mobos available.

this one? http//www.shop.com/op/aprod-p34144494-k24-g4-~asus+sli%2Ddeluxe+premium-nover?sourceid=3[]http//www.shop.com/op/aprod-p34144494-k24-g4-~asus+sli%2Ddeluxe+premium-nover?sourceid=3

yes that one but you can get it quite a bit cheaper.

how cheap?

this is what u need

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517

he doesn't need sli.. one graphics card is plenty enough for him. graphics card depends on your budget and what you use it for. if you play games then obviously you should get a decent one but for just normal stuff like watching tv you can get a cheap one around 100 dollars $200 dollars - go for an evga 6800gs, $150 - go for evga 6600gt (you can get this for 120 sometimes)

get ocz value ram (512 x 2 or 1gb x 2)

for a motherboard get an abit nforce4 ultra one.

i'll post up some links as soon as i find some good prices. )

I plan on using this rig to do everything.. play games, use it as a pvr and a pbx system, all displayed on an HDTV.

lots of ppl use the sli deluxe mobo without utilizing sli just for the face that its one of the best mobos on the market. 2x1gb memory would be great too.

Yeah SLI board isn't needed. I like Asus so I'm sticking with the board I sugestted.

This RAM is good. I like Corsair...
CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory. Good price $100
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145450

If you want to man up
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory $195
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145491

As for video cards, do you need a special on for HDTV?

I have one HDMI port on the back of my HDTV.

what kinda games? and what kinda budget you talking abotu here?

i knox you said nvidia, but why not get a All-in-wonder to help with the multimedia stuff. You can get the 2006 edition[=http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102581&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&ATT=14-102-581]2006 edition for less than $200.

Or if you wanna do it up right, and be setup for any new games that come out as well as benefits of the all in wonder, get the AIW 1800, will cost ya tho.

it's agp. his mobo is gonna be pci-e. i was thikning x800 aiw too but then i remebered tehre's no pci-e version of it

surely there is a pci-e version of AIW 2006 edition or 1800, lemme look

edit yea here ya go, only $2 more heh[=http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102661&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&ATT=14-102-661]heh

the 2006 edition is the same as the ATI x1300 with AIW features

the 1800 is a MONSTER tho

x800 isnt' 1800.. if h3x is filthy rich he can get himself a x1900xt for 500+ bucks.. and the thign about AIW cards is that they don't have an hdtv tuner.

remember... I have $600,000 in my pocket by mid february )

[quotec2ecdad40e="h3x"]remember... I have $600,000 in my pocket by mid february )[/quotec2ecdad40e]

Just... how?

he's selling all that weed he's growin! ) then he's running away to alaska to smoke what's left of it

I bought the place in Alaska already and had a nice chunk of change to keep.. and with the money i already had, i have roughly $600k

So do you want like an ultimate setup or what?

Exactly

o jeez if you want the uttimate set up then hell.. i'd be glad to complie a gg comp setup if price doesn't matter much

Sounds good. Any help is appreciated )

Also a good case mod setup would be good.. maybe some marijuana decals and lcd panel )

Yeah everyone make an ultimate setup and we can compare ) I'm not going to put a case or any of the small crap, just the good parts...

you think you can build a water-cooling system and get it to work right? because if you have the money and plan on overclocking.. it's worth it for the boost in performance as well as for the looks.

yeah, i was thinking of overclocking it to the hilt. I need very good multipliers.

alright i'm about halfway done. looking pretty expensive already. boy i wish i were loaded

[b163a8437f7]Case[/b163a8437f7] Koolance PC3-725BK - $447
http//www.directron.com/pc3725bk.html

[b163a8437f7]PSU[/b163a8437f7] OCZ PowerStream - $209
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817711001&ATT=17-711-001&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me

[b163a8437f7]MotherBoard[/b163a8437f7] DFI LanParty UT RDX200 $220 http//www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1619137&Sku=D452-2038&SRCCODE=SHOPPINGDF&CMP=OTC-SHOPPING

-this has to be upgraded when ati comes out with the new rd580 mobos ($250ish)
[b163a8437f7]CPU[/b163a8437f7] AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 (2.6 gHz) $1110
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103608&ATT=19-103-608&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me

[b163a8437f7]CPU Water Block[/b163a8437f7] Danger Den TDX Silver Block $125
http//www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=23&cat=22&page=1

[b163a8437f7]Memory[/b163a8437f7] OCZ Platinum EL 2 Gb (2 x 1Gb) $219
http//www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1487205&Sku=O261-9002&SRCCODE=SHOPPINGDF&CMP=OTC-SHOPPING

[b163a8437f7]Memory Block[/b163a8437f7] Koolance Memory Cooler $49.99 times two
http//www.koolance.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=29_56&products_id=251 (two)

[b163a8437f7]Hard Drive(s)[/b163a8437f7] Western Digital Raptor (150 Gb each) in Raid 0+1 $289 times two
http//www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=AA41460&CartID=done&nextloc= (two)
Seagate 500 Gb 7800.9 $342 times two
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148108&ATT=22-148-108&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r (two)

[b163a8437f7]Hard Drive Cooling[/b163a8437f7] Koolance Hard Drive Enclosure $65.99 times two
http//www.koolance.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=29_45&products_id=231 (two)

[b163a8437f7]VGA[/b163a8437f7] Sapphire x1900xtx CrossFire Ready 512 Mb $609
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102671

-you’ll need to add in an actual x1900xtx Crossfire edition card when it comes out to make your comp insanely fast so that’s about $700

[b163a8437f7]VGA Cooling[/b163a8437f7] Danger Den Maze4GPU Block $45
http//www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=150&cat=47&page=1

-you’ll need to get two of the new x1900xt only ones when they come out (should be about $130 each)

[b163a8437f7]Sound Card[/b163a8437f7] Creative X-Fi Elite Pro $385
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102191&ATT=29-102-191&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me

[b163a8437f7]Optical Drives[/b163a8437f7] Plextor SATA DVD Burner $119 times two
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827131351 (two)

[b163a8437f7]Pump[/b163a8437f7] Danger Den 12V Pump $75
http//www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=175&cat=4&page=1

[b163a8437f7]Thermal Paste[/b163a8437f7] Artic Silver 5 $7.29
http//www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=72&cat=52&page=1

[b163a8437f7]Coolant[/b163a8437f7] Fluid XP+ $34.99
http//www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=75&cat=54&page=1

-hope I didn’t forget anything.. and also.. I’ve heard of people getting two water cooling setups to cool a system like this since the coolant won’t be cool by the end of it’s cycle through your comp.

adds up to about $6500 before tax and shipping if you add in all the little stuff like uv lighting and water dyes

his is a bit excessive. If you want a serious gaming rig thats not gonna burn your wallet (as much). Mine clocks in at HALF his cost. I didnt just filter out the highest priced items and use them. These are seriously the best parts on the market. The only thing I would add is maybe a 500 gig IDE HDD. Anyways, here it is https//secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishDetail.asp?position=HISTORY&ID=1871381&WishListTitle=Insane+as+f%2Ack+compy

total cost $3,276.93


My job is to work with computers. If you need help feel free to ask any questions.

(everyone should check out the video card I put on that list)

who ever said i filtered out the highest prices? i look around enough to know what's gonna give you the most frames/fastest load times.

and if he's got the insanely deep pockets he has then he can afford to get the x1900xtx which gets about 3 times the frames of a 6800gs

umm did you look at my vid card on the list?

its a dual 7800 gt with 512 dual channel memory.

go to anandtech and you'll see that one x1900xtx owns the 7800gtx and when the crossfire edition comes out... it's gonna totally blow dual 7800gtx's outa the water

You could always step up and go dual 7800gtx 512 meg cards. Thats 1 gig of sli memory. Anyway. For the 3000$ my computer will save him the exra performance your comp will get will be marginal compared to mine. Def not worth the extra 3 grand. Anyway im tired now so im going to sleep, def not in the mood for a fanboy arguement. Late.

heh. i'm a nvidia guy myself but ati's newest offering is loookign prety promising.

thanks.. i think i got all i need )

NOOOOOO! I'm almost done building a system that will destroy all...

Go ahead.. i might take your route instead lol

if nothing else, grab a raptor or two (74 gb ones work fine too) for your speed hard drives. and make sure the operating system and games are on it so you can boot up and load fast

Hex, I do not know if you know this yet or not. But ATI is coming out with a new technology which allows the GPU to encode, making the encoding process 3 or more times faster. This means that you card could capture at even a better bit rate and so forth.

http//secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/WishShareShow.asp?ID=1871431&WishListTitle=ULTIMATE+MACHINE

- DFI LanParty UT RDX200 Cross-Fire Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 CrossFire AMD Motherboard - Retail $169.99
- ASUS Extreme AX1900XTX/2DHTV Radeon X1900XTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Ready Video Card - Retail $669.00
- ATI 100-435721 Radeon X1900 CrossFire Edition 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Ready Video Card - Retail $599.00
- ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W Power Supply - Retail $174.99
- AMD Athlon 64 FX60 Toledo 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADAFX60CDBOX - Retail $1,110.00
- OCZ Titanium 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model OCZ4002048ELDCTE-K - Retail $277.31
- 4 Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YD 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $528.00
- Lian Li PC-65B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $125.00
- BenQ Black ATA/ATAPI DVD Burner With LightScribe Model DW1655 - Retail $65.99
- Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum Pro 70SB036000000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail $222.00
- ZALMAN RESERATOR 1 Fanless Water Cooling System (Reservoir+Radiator+Water Pump) - Retail $192.99

Total $4,134.27 before taxes and shipping...

This computer is fucking sick. Less than I thought too. The case is pretty basic because I don't like the that LAN party look. AMD64 FX60 is just sweet. ATI X1900XT and the X1900 Crossfire, insane graphics. 4 WD Caviar 250GB in RAID5 (750GB of storage). Great RAM, great sound card. Water cooling. Not sure about the video capture card...

hmm.. when is this expected to come out? I just might have to hold off until it comes out.

why ocz titanium? isn't that server memory?

[quote7da9f606a5="h3x"]hmm.. when is this expected to come out? I just might have to hold off until it comes out.[/quote7da9f606a5]

You could always drop it in after the fact...

[quote7da9f606a5="Aurelius"]why ocz titanium? isn't that server memory?[/quote7da9f606a5]

You could use it in a server, for sure but I'd like ECC Registered RAM in my server. Its got insane timing 2-3-2-5. Thats fast for 1GB DIMMs. Compare it to the OCZ Value Series 3-4-4-8...

This computer would destroy all...

Um, I think I can afford the Arctic Silver....

the difference is my computer is actually affordable and still will pwn as much as the others...

[quoted8a5a63193]the difference is my computer is actually affordable and still will pwn as much as the others...[/quoted8a5a63193]

whats your PCs specs?

posted just a few posts up

https//secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/WishDetail.asp?position=HISTORY&ID=1871381&WishListTitle=Insane+as+f%2Ack+compy

total cost $3,276.93


Like i said before, my job is working with computers all day. So if you have any questions feel free to ask.

it says your wish list detail is empty

try this one

http//secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/WishShareShow.asp?ID=1871381&WishListTitle=Insane+as+f%2Ack+compy

Do I really need 2 VGA ports? I don't even think I need 2 DVI ports.. Like I said, this will be hooked up to my TV at all times.

Wolfeman's makes more sense since it has 2 DVI ports sans the VGA.

I may have money to toss around, but why pay $200 more for 2 VGA ports I will never use?

that video card is SLI in one card. It has 2 cores resulting in 2 dvi and vgas. Your not paying extra for 2 vgas and 2 dvis your paying extra cuz its basicly 2 cards. Look at the back, it has 2 independent 7800gt cores.

I think I'll take JOSHBOX's approach.. leaves me some green to keep in my wallet (mo' money, mo' money), and based on the specs.. I will have the best rig in the entire state of Alaska.. thanks again everyone.. )

+k will go to joshbox and wolfeman for taking the time to help

Well I went overboard with the graphics card. They were like 1200. I could switch the MB and get something cheaper there. Also Joshbox's isn't water cooled, if you have the money go with the FX60, and I like my RAID5 setup. If nothing else at least do RAID1 in case a drive dies...

[quote6f5b9bc704="h3x"]I think I'll take JOSHBOX's approach.. leaves me some green to keep in my wallet (mo' money, mo' money), and based on the specs.. I will have the best rig in the entire state of Alaska.. thanks again everyone.. )

+k will go to joshbox and wolfeman for taking the time to help[/quote6f5b9bc704]


Whatever you do DO NOT GET THIS POS RAM. http//www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145587

That is the most horable ram every. It has fucking LEDs on it, wtf. And it does not list its whole cas latency. OCZ for the win IMO.

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210

the led's are built onto a metal heatsink. How would a heatsink HELP a memory overheat. Also h3x if you want some cheaper alternatives that will still pwn contact me, im confident I could drop the price another grand and still keep it a kickass computer. As far as water cooling, That zalman fan will be more than sufficent and it will be nice n quiet.

But he wants to OC the hell out of it. Thats why I suggested the DFI MB, easier to OC...

i'm using a tsunami right now with a zalman 7000 alcu and the o/c isn't too good as i can only push it to 2.4ghz prime stable before it craps out. maybe just a bad core. but if you're looking for an air cooling system that's good for o/c i suggest you get a thermalright xp-120 with a decent fan like a panaflo and you'll get a bit more headroom for your temps

Whats a good watercooling system? I found this one by Thermaltake but I don't need a dildo sitting next to my computer...
http//www.thermaltakeusa.com/2005/watercooling/cl-w0011rocket/cl-w0011.htm
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Before I read your post, I looked at the pic, and said 'god damn that is a huge dildo' lol

http//2cooltek.com/product_info.php?products_id=95 <<< Panaflo 120mm Fan

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835109118 <<< ThermalRight xp-120

my main complaints about the tsunami is that spae is kinda cramped at the top of the case so putting in a psu that isn't especially small will be a major problem. i had to remove the usb ports and the other stuff up there just to fit in my modular psu and that doesn't take up much space. the fan on the side panel also has no filter so be prepared to clean the insides every once in a while. other than that it's a decent case and it looks pretty sweet for the price.

the koolance stuff i recommended is pretty much the best setup for the least ammount of work. only problem is that it's set up in a pretty expensive case already. watercooling isn't worth the price premium but air coolilng simply isn't an option if you're running sli (which you aren't since the vga you chose can't do sli). people ahve also been sayign that the new nvidia high-end cards are coming out in april so it would be smart to just get one evga 7800gt for about $300 and when the new card comes out you can use their replacement program and pay a bit of money and grab the newest card.

So that heatsink doesn't use a fan?

This is the heatsink and fan I got on my AMD64 3500+
ZALMAN CNPS7700-CU 120mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Copper Heatsink
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118115

I don't OC, never had much luck with it and I hate my MSI MB...

well i can't use a 7700 on my dfi mobo since it would block the fourth ram slot and be a millimeter away from the third. not sure about that asus motherboard but if you plan on o/c'n that alot you should grab a zalman heatsink for the chipset too.

edit here's the link for the heatsink

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118214

WTF would you spend 160 for that dvd burner when you can but the awesome NED-3520 from newegg for around $35

cause it's sata? not that it makes a difference since the stats on the sata and ide versions of the drive are the same.

http//images.apple.com/powermac/images/indextop20051018.jpg[" alt=""/imgce1ca62b27]
http//www.apple.com/powermac/
fucking duh.

Get that mac crap outta here D

ive grown to like macs lol

im kinda in the middle of windows/mac

mac's don't game well at all which is why i use windows

mac do nice photoshop and what not

macs do anything good good.
gaming is pretty trivial.

Not if you are a gamer...

some games don't have mac support or the performance is lack luster. i really don't see what's so bad about pc's.. if they're slower than mac's in anyway... hell.. i mgiht get a mac )

I haven't read this whole post, but i would definaitally avoid the ASUS A8N SLI deluxe mobo. I had two from newegg not work. The first crapped out after a month, and the second was DOA. From what i read on the Asus forums, a lot of people were having problems with the board.
Thank god they were out of stock the third time, so i just got my money back. I think SLI is over-rated anyway. Now i have a LANparty board and has worked great for me so far.

which mobo would you suggest then?

[quote31ff765018="h3x"]which mobo would you suggest then?[/quote31ff765018]
Most of these guys know more about this stuff than i do. I usually like Asus as a brand, but many poeple have had problems with this specific board. I did quite a bit of research on the Asus forums about it. So i would maybe go with a differnet Asus board or maybe a DFI lanparty, (although i think the boards are pretty ugly and the box it comes in looks like a 12yr designed it.)

tehre's two main overclocking boards that depend on what kind of overclocker you are.

since my budget is low, i bought the dfi lanparty and ocz gold vx memory which uses high voltages (3.3v+) so if you intend on buying ocx vx memory or mushkin redline memory, go with the dfi nforce4 sli expert board

if you're willing to pay a bit more. buy ocz platinum el (make sure it's not vx) or any other memory that uses samsung tccd and the asus board that someone recommended at first.

both boards (asus and dfi) come with lots of overclocking options but the dfi board has higher voltage options and give you a higher overclock without the max multiplier. the asus board paired with tccd ram will give you the higher overclock and lower timings at less voltage which also means less risk but it comes at a slightly higher price.

o and just to tell you that dfi customer support is total crap. i've never dealt with corsair but i hear they have decent enough reps. OCZ by far has the best support center with friendly people who know what they're dealing with and their memory has a lifetime warranty on it regardless of how much you overclocked it as long as you don't exceed the voltage that they specify in the warranty. i accidently burned one of my memory dimm's which was value vx (cost me about $80 at the time) and they replaced it with gold vx (which cost about $130) because they thought it would work better with my setup. can't help but love a free upgrade )

macs are awesome. my powerbook does everything but my pc extracts files faster. i would go with the asus sli-deluxe. i had a problem with the chipset fan but they fixed it. i feel bad for my pc because it is decked out but only use it for htpc. my nec nd-2500a dvd burner is great. upgraded firmware to dual-layer and shit.

kidd, if apple made osx for amd64 processors, i would jump on that shit in a second.

make sure you get this asus a8n32 sli-deluxe and not just the normal a8n because the normal sli-deluxe has less overclocking options and runs sli 8x/8x while the a8n32 runs the pci-e 16x/16x providing for better framerates

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568