Do i really need a mount for my plasma TV?

JUNIOR6886

27-01-2006 17:46:43

Theres a chance i might be one of the unlucky people to get one of EveryFreegift's last 7 plasma Screens. If this happens will i really need need to get a mount for the TV? I plan on having this in my living room as the family main TV if im gonna be stuck with it. Couldnt I just set this TV on top of a cabniet or something? why do i need a mount?

Aurelius

27-01-2006 17:49:02

unlucky? i hope they actually ship me one in six months. be happy you're getting something (

jack001

27-01-2006 17:50:04

can you elaborate? what do you mean by "lsat 7 plasma tvs"? What will happen once the run out of these TVs? Im very interested because i did everyfreegift for the plasma about a month ago, and im expecting to get the plasma in another 4...

tylerc

27-01-2006 17:50:56

Yeah, where'd you hear they only have 7 left?

igneous

27-01-2006 17:59:23

From me. I have a theory that there are only 7 left in stock. People in the past have said that it comes from techdepot.com, and if you add 8 of them to your cart they show as backorder. 7 shows in stock. Not 100% sure though..

JUNIOR6886

27-01-2006 18:16:29

yes they only have 7 TVs left right now and im due to go shipped on feb.15th according to the lady at EFG. After they run out of TVs EFG goes back to sending $2500 checks insted of the TV.

Eric P

27-01-2006 18:30:59

junior you would need to buy (or build) a table top mount. think about your lcd monitor and turn it upside down. That's how it will be if you put it on a table. Or you could just get a wall mount and stick it on the wall. I already have an idea how to build a mount it's real easy.

kyks17

27-01-2006 18:32:22

id also like to know if it needs a mount. i dunt think i wanna be responsible for the holes left by the mount after i move from my apt in 1.5 years...

JUNIOR6886

27-01-2006 18:36:50

[quoteec645025d0="Eric P"]junior you would need to buy (or build) a table top mount. think about your lcd monitor and turn it upside down. That's how it will be if you put it on a table. Or you could just get a wall mount and stick it on the wall. I already have an idea how to build a mount it's real easy.[/quoteec645025d0]

I have a crt monitor. I hated the quality of my LCD one so i returned it...
I could build a wall mount with a nail and some string...... lol
but i dont think the idea og banging nails in the wall will sit well
with the rest of my family

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Eric P

27-01-2006 18:40:35

i wouldn't use nails and string. maybe drywall screws (if wall is drywall) with butterfly supports. I can imagine you nail some nails put up your plasma and it falls down.

igneous

27-01-2006 19:31:06

[quotea73eeba49a="kyks17"]id also like to know if it needs a mount. i dunt think i wanna be responsible for the holes left by the mount after i move from my apt in 1.5 years...[/quotea73eeba49a]
It either needs a wall mount or a stand mount. The holes in your wall are nothing a can of spackle and some paint couldnt fix quite easily.

hairyferry

27-01-2006 19:33:12

yeah you really do need a mount! I tried screws in the wall with a cable from the hardware store here. First off good luck getting it on straight, you'll need atleast 3 people and even if you do it wont be straight. The mount is easy cause you put the mount on the wall then the peice on the back of the TV, lift the TV and put it on the mount and it clicks in place. You can get a good one off ebay for like 70 bucks.

Admin

27-01-2006 19:37:03

I've got mine sitting on a deep (12-15") windowsill, propped against a thermostat knob. I'm in a constant state of anxiety about it falling. There is really no way to get it stable on a flat surface without the tabletop stand - the whole thing is smooth all around with only the four steel mounting posts sticking out.

Luckily I've got $500 + $75 GCs coming from nuitech so I can blow some cash on a stand and some speakers for it, otherwise I'd really be up shit creek without a paddle.

kyks17

27-01-2006 19:48:49

admin u should try calling EFG and asking about the speakers it was supposed to have, a few of us have talked to their CS and they told us if we got a tv without speakers to call and they would send them seperately.

tracemhunter

27-01-2006 19:55:53

get a stand. unless you are going to thread the wires through the walls, it will look like shit. do it right or dont do it at all. my lcd is sitting on the stand it came with and it works fine. i am getting directv hd in the new house next month so i can really test this baby out P

igneous

27-01-2006 20:49:00

you can just get a stand like this
http//cgi.ebay.com/UNIVERSAL-PLASMA-DISPLAY-DESK-STAND-37-42-50-BLACK_W0QQitemZ5858906047QQcategoryZ48656QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
There are probably even cheaper ones out there

Wolfeman

27-01-2006 20:56:40

[quotea0cbab595e="Admin"]I've got mine sitting on a deep (12-15") windowsill, propped against a thermostat knob. I'm in a constant state of anxiety about it falling. There is really no way to get it stable on a flat surface without the tabletop stand - the whole thing is smooth all around with only the four steel mounting posts sticking out.

Luckily I've got $500 + $75 GCs coming from nuitech so I can blow some cash on a stand and some speakers for it, otherwise I'd really be up shit creek without a paddle.[/quotea0cbab595e]

Also the box can fit 2 grown men, 1 with beard, but no shirts...

kyks17

27-01-2006 22:34:46

[quotec784b2bef6="igneous"]you can just get a stand like this
http//cgi.ebay.com/UNIVERSAL-PLASMA-DISPLAY-DESK-STAND-37-42-50-BLACK_W0QQitemZ5858906047QQcategoryZ48656QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
There are probably even cheaper ones out there[/quotec784b2bef6]

i think i would be most interested in something like this. i just came back from best buy and the guy there told me to mount it on my wall i need to get a stud finder to find the beams in my wall so i can know hwere i can and cant attach it and im fairly confident i would have issues with that, and theres really only 1 spot in my room i can wall mount it and i doubt the beams will magically be exactly centered (and they would need to be, its just enough room for it).

he then told me a stand like the one u linked to didnt exist O_o he said no universal ones, and i might be able to get one from sony but it was doubtful. riiiight.

so can anyone explain to me how the one linked works? i know absolutely zero about tvs and how they would connect to that, just looks like 4 pegs to me...

hehehhehe

27-01-2006 22:57:56

I think that ebay one would work. All these panels have screw holes in the back where you attach the wall mounts (obviously). So I'm assuming that ebay desk stand just attaches itself to the back like a wall mount would. The description says most plasmas so I guess you'd have to ask seller based on your screen brand.

A lot of best buy employees have no clue but you knew that.

I wish I could do a wall mount but I'm afraid to do too much damage to the wall and get charged by my landlord.

PoPoJiJo

27-01-2006 22:58:45

http//www.everyfreegift.com/product_detail.jsp?product_id=4903&category_id=19&pid=&cid=&lid=

is this site you guys did to get the 42" plasma?

Admin

27-01-2006 23:00:08

I don't know if it would work either, although a cursory inspection makes me suspect it will.

I took a couple pictures and measurements of the back of the plasma and asked that seller if it would work with one of his stands. I'll let you guys know what he says.

Just FYI - there are four pegs that look like this
http//img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonypeg4nd.jpg
in a square on the rear, each one is about 15.5" apart.

hope to god it works... a terrestrial hdtv receiver is 140+ and that doesn't even include an antenna (

at least the tv was free

igneous

27-01-2006 23:06:26

It should work. Theres a standard called vesa for flat panels, and almost all of them have mounting holes in the same spot, so these mounts work for most tvs. I'd look around a little more though.

hehehhehe

27-01-2006 23:08:44

How big do the holes have to be for a wall mount, and how many do you have to drill?

Admin

27-01-2006 23:52:16

i'm pretty sure it varies from mount to mount, but expect at least four and at least two of them to require studs. these beasts are heavy.

Wolfeman

27-01-2006 23:57:24

Mounts and studs? Heavy beasts? Am I in the wrong thread...

hehehhehe

27-01-2006 23:59:46

[quote1d354fd268="Admin"]i'm pretty sure it varies from mount to mount, but expect at least four and at least two of them to require studs. these beasts are heavy.[/quote1d354fd268]
Yeah, that's what I thought. I couldn't get away with it in my apt. I don't think.

h3x

28-01-2006 00:04:42

sell it and go with a dlp projector 8)

Wolfeman

28-01-2006 00:06:02

Boo on projectors. During the day its hard enough to see my TV as is...

hehehhehe

28-01-2006 00:09:10

I want to get a projector too (not a rear proj. tv but a real projector), just waiting on a good deal. My gf thinks it'd be a waste...

Wolfeman

28-01-2006 00:13:44

You need a really dark room for projection to look good, be warned...

igneous

28-01-2006 09:13:03

I agree that projectors are really nice, but they definitely suck for regular tv in the day. The best way to do it is have aplasma for daytime, and a projector at night.

JUNIOR6886

28-01-2006 15:13:22

Ok so it looks like balancing this on a cabniet isnt gonna work. I can afford to blow 150 on a mount but part of me is still hoping for that 2500 check

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Wolfeman

28-01-2006 15:14:42

I have no where to mount it. Anyone find a good stand?

nextlevel

28-01-2006 22:07:24

I got this one for mine

http//www.omnimount.com/product.asp?p=208

Admin

02-02-2006 16:50:49

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there's the ol' boy on his windowsill. left and below the screen is the xbox; right and below is the vcr (for tv tuning - hopefully soon to be replaced by a free internal tuner card from EFG).

here's the stand http//www.premiermounts.com/Product.asp?PartId=1252

installation was not too bad. the instructions were good. it seems pretty darn solid for a bottom-of-the-barrel stand.

If you don't mind a silver base (mine's black), you can get one for 150 shipped here
http//www.mountsandmore.com/Premier-Mounts-PSD-TTS-267PM1251.html

otherwise, get in touch with email==digideals@cox.netdigideals@cox.net=digideals@cox.netdigideals@cox.net/email - he sells them on ebay. I got mine for $165 shipped fedex saver - ask him to sell it off-ebay with a discount.

looking forward to the speakers that efg said are 'ordered'.

JUNIOR6886

02-02-2006 19:11:45

hows the picture quality using your VCR as a turner? Does it at least look as good as a crt standard definition TV?

Admin

02-02-2006 19:30:09

much better, i'd say. its actually a pretty good vcr, and even though its standard def, the tv "upconverts" it. definitely watchable but not even close to hdtv or dvi sharp.

Wolfeman

02-02-2006 20:07:20

Admin, are you getting an exteral tuner?

Admin

02-02-2006 23:14:40

the vcr is effectively an external tuner.

if you mean a terrestrial HDTV receiver (to pick up broadcast hdtv), no, i will not be getting one
a) i'm in a dorm built mostly out of cement, reception will probably be crap
b) i'm only here for ~4 more months, at which point i'll be moving into a shared house most likely. we'll likely get digi cable at that point, negating the need. i can't justify the cost. i dont watch that much tv.

freedesktoppc

04-02-2006 16:29:13

hey admin, I was just wondering when you received your EFG plasma, and how long it took from the time you finished it. I sent my vouchers in about 6 weeks ago, just wanted an estimate of when to expect it.

Admin

04-02-2006 16:45:26

i got it just about 100 days after i my 6th offer went 'in progress'. i mailed in vouchers within 1-2 days of them becoming available.

on a side note, i got the speakers today D
they were these, from this site
http//www.buy.com/prod/OPTIONAL_LIGHTWEIGHT_SPEAKERS_FOR_THE_PFM_42V1_B_BLACK/q/loc/101/10354707.html

they're not for my model at all... the one i have doesn't have mounts built into the side for speakers. i basically two-sided-taped them to the wall on either side of the screen. it looks okay. they sound okay. nothing spectacular.

heres to hoping i get the tuner card as well

JUNIOR6886

04-02-2006 17:01:27

someone's really pushing their luck lol
i just really find it strange that YFDirect is going out of their way to provide us with shite products. with the money their spending they could have gotten us a HDTV a BUILT IN turner and speakes and maybe even a cheapo stand. cry
my 8 week mark is on feburary 12th Im gonna try asking for a check (again) or at least a different model TV

Wolfeman

04-02-2006 17:02:12

Yeah I wish they'd just send HDTVs and save all this drama...

Admin

04-02-2006 17:49:42

lishrugli

i play halo2 at 480p and it looks fucking amazing. isn't 480p technically an hdtv resolution?

honestly, it's 42", it's plasma, it's made by sony.. its a great monitor. the mac mini plugged into it via DVI looks orgasmic.

here's what i love about it
-good remote
-built in amp
-contrast/brightness/color settings 'stick' with each input (dvi, vga, etc)
-lots of inputs! (vga/component, dvi, composite video, 2x svideo)
-has an expansion bay to add cool stuff, like a tuner

the things you guys say are 'minuses' (i.e. no speakers, no tuner) are really 'pluses', at least to me. i can use any speakers i want. i can use any tuner i want. what you call 'underfeatured' i call 'not bloated'. i have a plasma panel that is compact - no frills. it just gets the job done and looks great at the same time.

KeithA

04-02-2006 17:56:47

[quote796ba09375="Admin"]lishrugli
i play halo2 at 480p and it looks fucking amazing. isn't 480p technically an hdtv resolution?[/quote796ba09375]

480p is "EDTV"; it's progressive scan and will display a picture when fed an HDTV signal, but HDTV signals start at 720p. (Standard definition is 480i, for interlaced). Some people argue that EDTV plasmas are a better value than HDTV plasmas because, at most viewing distances, the difference in resolution between a 480p and 720p display doesn't justify the additional cost.

Not sure if you have a Dreamcast, but I've heard that they look great with 480p displays and up too...

Admin

04-02-2006 18:00:19

used to have a dc. pretty sorry about giving it away now ( do they have component video kits for them? i might have to pick one up for old times' sake

Allen626

04-02-2006 18:00:50

480p is EDTV. There is a big differance between 480p and 720p. And a good one between that and 1080i.

Allen626

04-02-2006 18:02:32

[quote557cc758b5="KeithA"][quote557cc758b5="Admin"]lishrugli
i play halo2 at 480p and it looks fucking amazing. isn't 480p technically an hdtv resolution?[/quote557cc758b5]

480p is "EDTV"; it's progressive scan and will display a picture when fed an HDTV signal, but HDTV signals start at 720p. (Standard definition is 480i, for interlaced). Some people argue that EDTV plasmas are a better value than HDTV plasmas because, at most viewing distances, the difference in resolution between a 480p and 720p display doesn't justify the additional cost.

Not sure if you have a Dreamcast, but I've heard that they look great with 480p displays and up too...[/quote557cc758b5]

I can tell a huge differance between a EDTV or SDTV and a HDTV from all viewing distances.

KeithA

05-02-2006 07:39:05

[quote2b283d83e8="Allen626"][quote2b283d83e8="KeithA"][quote2b283d83e8="Admin"]lishrugli
i play halo2 at 480p and it looks fucking amazing. isn't 480p technically an hdtv resolution?[/quote2b283d83e8]

480p is "EDTV"; it's progressive scan and will display a picture when fed an HDTV signal, but HDTV signals start at 720p. (Standard definition is 480i, for interlaced). Some people argue that EDTV plasmas are a better value than HDTV plasmas because, at most viewing distances, the difference in resolution between a 480p and 720p display doesn't justify the additional cost.

Not sure if you have a Dreamcast, but I've heard that they look great with 480p displays and up too...[/quote2b283d83e8]

I can tell a huge differance between a EDTV or SDTV and a HDTV from all viewing distances.[/quote2b283d83e8]

I can too. I didn't say that you couldn't tell the difference, I said that some people argue that the additional cost of an HDTV isn't worth the gain in image quality. For what it's worth, I'm not one of those people.

freedesktoppc

05-02-2006 19:55:13

The one thing which I don't understand in this whole tuner debate, is if there is a coaxical input for me to hook up my directv?

nextlevel

05-02-2006 19:56:23

[quoted019211404="freedesktoppc"]The one thing which I don't understand in this whole tuner debate, is if there is a coaxical input for me to hook up my directv?[/quoted019211404]

Most don't know anything, they just like to talk..

freedesktoppc

05-02-2006 20:39:43

Also to admin, or anyone else, did it change your status to shipped, or did it just show up one day?

doylnea

02-08-2006 09:08:44

Anyone find a solid, but relatively inexpensive wall mount? My buyer asked if I knew where to find one.

dmorris68

02-08-2006 16:37:33

[quote3a5bf2946f="doylnea"]Anyone find a solid, but relatively inexpensive wall mount? My buyer asked if I knew where to find one.[/quote3a5bf2946f]
Got mine from Wal-Mart for $98. The tilt one was a bit more, but I wanted the flat mount. Works great. Good quality compared to some I've seen, and came with a free level AND electronic stud finder.

doylnea

03-08-2006 08:33:00

Thansk Dmorris - they have one on their website for $88 right now. Looks good enough to me...

JUNIOR6886

03-08-2006 08:39:04

lol to think it was a mod who bumped this thread fron january lol

if anyone cares. I ended up getting the LG plasma from EFG with an ATSC tuner, stand and speakers
"the works" )

doylnea

03-08-2006 08:57:24

[quoteb01cfca8fa="JUNIOR6886"]lol to think it was a mod who bumped this thread fron january lol

if anyone cares. I ended up getting the LG plasma from EFG with an ATSC tuner, stand and speakers
"the works" )[/quoteb01cfca8fa]

it keeps all the info in one thread...then if someone searches...(omg) they might find it here, rather than starting another thread.

And you're a jerk (for getting a sweet ass TV). ;)

ajrock2000

03-08-2006 09:43:44

I'll post pics when I get around to it of my mount I made from 2, 40" 2x4"s, 8" lag screws going into the studs, and 2 8" angle brackets to hold the bottom of the tv. The top of the tv is bolted on through those convenient little handle things on the panasonic plasma. It cost me about $15 in parts from lowes and it is solid as a rock.

justinag06

03-08-2006 11:03:51

yeah im going to be building mine next week. I have a good idea of what i'm going to do but it's too complicated to explain. I'll post pics.

I can't see myself shelling out $100 for a mount, when I know I can build one just as easily from scratch for under $20 and it's going to be hidden flush against the wall anyhow.