How Long Will The Freebie Scene Last?

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Daggoth

24-01-2006 20:31:24

I am adding this poll for the major sites like Freepay and Trainn. How long do you think they will last?

[be6a7906e58]Do Not Count Smaller Sites in this Poll[/be6a7906e58]

Comments would be great!

EatChex89

24-01-2006 20:32:03

it'll last until you die.

Kidd

24-01-2006 20:32:39

a couple more years i guess

mnx12

24-01-2006 20:37:29

i think its already signifigantly dying

h3x

24-01-2006 20:40:32

I've seen a few members officially stating that they were unplugging from the scene.. I still think FIG has a heavy user base for all of the freebie companies as a whole.

My prediction The freebie scene will be strong through 2010 (pronounced twenty-ten, not two-thousand-ten as I've heard some many people call it).. after that? who knows?

Daggoth

24-01-2006 20:40:42

[quote00cc6125d7="mnx12"]i think its already signifigantly dying[/quote00cc6125d7]

Ya, same here. I hope they live up to sending Ps3s though, lol.

Kidd

24-01-2006 20:40:58

ive been retired from hardcore freebing since fen 2005 )

Daggoth

24-01-2006 20:41:46

[quote06cefc566b="Kidd"]ive been retired from hardcore freebing since fen 2005 )[/quote06cefc566b]

Tomorrow, I will be retired. Ordering for OrderPCs4Free will be my last freebie.

Allen626

24-01-2006 20:42:14

[quote6ccfe860b5="mnx12"]i think its already signifigantly dying[/quote6ccfe860b5]

From what I have seen everyone thinks that at first, but then relizes it is not. I think it has got 5+ years on its back. I have seen nothing but a increase in the community since I have been here, but higher prices.

People always leave scenes, but new people replace them.

Kidd

24-01-2006 20:42:19

thats wat they all say P

anyways its hard seeing new sites and not starting but u get over it.

Daggoth

24-01-2006 20:43:25

[quoteda2b039c26="Kidd"]thats wat they all say P

anyways its hard seeing new sites and not starting but u get over it.[/quoteda2b039c26]

Hey, its not me stopping, its my parents stopping me. They think I am a crook so and hate me getting free stuff.

Kidd

24-01-2006 20:44:23

lol when i had shit shipped to my house my mom would be like wtf is that and how did u get it here without you paying for it. im like its free and she went on about nothing is free or w/e

Daggoth

24-01-2006 20:46:12

[quote93c21d7e63="Allen626"][quote93c21d7e63="mnx12"]i think its already signifigantly dying[/quote93c21d7e63]

From what I have seen everyone thinks that at first, but then relizes it is not. I think it has got 5+ years on its back. I have seen nothing but a increase in the community since I have been here, but higher prices.

People always leave scenes, but new people replace them.[/quote93c21d7e63]

Thats not the problem. The problem is too many freebists who actually finish the sites. Big companies lose a lot of money of money because of us.

Kidd Same here, received so much stuff, and they still will not believe me cry

Kidd

24-01-2006 20:47:01

there like one day the cops will come and arrest u im like its been over a year since my first one nothing has happened yet so why now.

BubbaMan

24-01-2006 20:48:06

[quote7bec6e3239="Allen626"]

People always leave scenes, but new people replace them.[/quote7bec6e3239]

I completely agree with this. Most folks here move on after they've completed their "quota" per se, but there are plenty of younger folks to replace them.

Also, as long as everyone in the value chain is "winning;" freebie enthusiasts, site owners, affiliate networks and the advertisers...the cycle should continue indefinitely.

Daggoth

24-01-2006 20:51:03

The Freebie sites gets paid $20/ref. When sites like Trainn give out $50/ref, they are taking a $30/ref loss.

tracemhunter

24-01-2006 21:06:48

i have been considering leaving the scene a lot lately. the last site i did was yourfreevideoipods, the day it launched.

theysayjump

24-01-2006 21:25:24

It's not the lack of sites or networks that will be the problem, it will be the amount of idiots who frud the sites and/or offers.

If all or most of the offers are being frauded, who the fuck is going to be want Freepay or Trainn as an affiliate?

That will be the death of the freebie scene and I don't see it lasting much longer than the end of this year.

johnjimjones

24-01-2006 21:35:18

Eventually there will be no more people to do the offers and there are only so many offers that the sites can provide trials on. Slowly sites are going to be weeded out, but not anytime soon.

MyungChunHa

24-01-2006 21:37:48

[quote0fd3c4e78d="johnjimjones"]Eventually there will be no more people to do the offers and there are only so many offers that the sites can provide trials on. Slowly sites are going to be weeded out, but not anytime soon.[/quote0fd3c4e78d]
for us newbies....hopefully itll last at least a couple more years....i at least want my ipod......

Admin

24-01-2006 21:54:39

I used to think it was dying. It's pretty much floating along at this point. It seems to me like fewer new (read stupid site owners) sites are being made, which is good for incentive CPA marketing as a whole. It kinda seems like it's heading to some kind of equilibrium.

FreeOffersNow

24-01-2006 22:01:47

You guys need to look outside FiPG...our 6000~ users are only a small percentage of the user base of large networks like FreePay and YFDirect. The freebie scene is alive and well.

bigchan2k

24-01-2006 22:25:05

I think these sites will last until the next economic downturn (recession). Companys that use affiliate programs to advertise their sites will either pay less money or pull out altogether. Affiliate programs will have less money to give out per referral. Then, freebie sites will be forced to raise referral requirements, thus making their sites less appealing. End result freebie sites face hard times and possibly shut down.

Just look at what the 2001-2003 recession did to the "Get Paid to Surf" programs. How many of those still exist today?

CoMpFrEaK

24-01-2006 22:29:07

look at how much freepay makes

look at the %% we consist of that amount

we only make up a little part

it should survive for quite some time

kdollar

24-01-2006 22:31:54

[quotedb229a9815="FreeOffersNow"]You guys need to look outside FiPG...our 6000~ users are only a small percentage of the user base of large networks like FreePay and YFDirect. The freebie scene is alive and well.[/quotedb229a9815]


true but its that perecentage all the freebie sites make their money and are able to support "completers" like us. its alive, i get worried all the time it wont be well and i waste money or time on a site that will shut down. i think a lot of people are lookn at the status of experienced users on here and how they are leaving, doesnt mean train or freepay is. i mean honestly ive watched daggoth grow from a newbie kid, to an experienced kid ) with a higher tr than me. so it will be around, doesnt mean the forum has to die! ive noticed my interest lacking but i always get on a couple times a day to check whats goin on, i find myself lookn more and more at off topic than trading module.



p.s. im wasted!!!1

chewy

25-01-2006 05:08:29

people were saying this about offercentric about 15 months ago, that they were closing. Shockingly they are still around. Granted i wouldnt touch one of there sites with a ten foot pole but they are still around.

I prefer the DIY sites now, as they are easier to complete and not as picky with offer completions as the referral sites are. i.e. they will always give you manual credit after emailing them.(at least YF direct is)

J4320

25-01-2006 05:51:35

I hate how people mention this. Just stop talking about it. You're scaring the noobs.

KeithA

25-01-2006 06:15:32

I think that incentive sites will be around until marketing research and technology becomes sophisticated enough to do more relevant targeted marketing.

The greatest flaw (or inefficiency) I see in the incentivized affiliate marketing model is that manufacturers and service providers pay relatively high premiums to get ANYONE to try their product or service.

Yes, they do get more return on each dollar invested than they would using certain other methods because the model does require people to (pretend to) trial their products. But it's a pretty blunt promotional tool; after all, the most certain statement you can make about anyone trialing your product via an incentivized promotion is that they are interested in the free gift being offered. Whether they are at all interested in your product or service is difficult to ascertain.

As data capture technology improves and customer and shopper insight grows, these same companies will be able to identify the people that a) are likeliest to convert from trial customers to paying customers and b) are the likeliest advocates/evangelists for their brands.

When that happens, anyone willing to pay an affiliate marketer for such cold leads will probably be wasting his money.

crazyates

25-01-2006 11:10:31

the biggest downfall is when there are more scammers then there are people who actually want to do these sites. scammers give these kinds of sites a bad rep...and then people won't want to do it. if the number of scammers goes down and the number of legitimately interested people goes up....it could last quite a long time...10 years?

i doubt there will ever be a shortage of people to sign up...(what percentage of people w/ internet & credit card have signed up for sites like this up to date? not many...)

Th3Great1

25-01-2006 11:20:46

i would say a couple of more years at least 5 or more

Wolfeman

25-01-2006 11:23:47

Since it first started about every six months someone asks. I don't see there being a ton of small sites again but the big ones like Freepay aren't going anywhere. Not sure about Trainn, I know Freepay does a ton of advertising outside of just here. I've never seen a Trainn ad but I usually don't pay attention...

srichter

25-01-2006 11:31:20

It won't die.

Most of the fraud on the offers comes from people who are strong in the 'scene'; users of this forum, etc. FreePay has many more users who are not as smart than ones who are. Most of the users will not cancel right away, use prepaid cards, etc.

As long as there are companeis who want new customers, there will be freebie sites.

Wolfeman

25-01-2006 11:32:23

^^^^Exactly!^^^^

KeithA

25-01-2006 11:38:15

In the long-term, freebie sites will need to vastly improve their ability to deliver [i86851df8e2]viable[/i86851df8e2] new customers (i.e. customers likely to willingly stay on beyond a trial).

As it gets easier to identify and target viable new customers (by mining credit card, point-of-sale, and other data), it will be less and less appealing to advertisers to pay for new customers whose primary motivation is anything other than trialing their product.

If you're a weightloss pill manufactuer with $10k to spend on marketing, would you rather 2,000 iPod-frenzied teenage males trial your product, or 500 morbidly obese Oprah fiends?

JUNIOR6886

01-03-2006 16:40:22

I decided to bring this thread back to life in light of today's events...
It seems like not only freepay, but most of the major freebie companies are starting to crumble... even YF Direct Nuitech and metareward are starting to make it even harder to get gifts.... I dont think many of the major freebie sites will make it to the end of this year..... (

Veek

01-03-2006 16:47:07

[quote4108e0162e="JUNIOR6886"]I decided to bring this thread back to life in light of today's events...
It seems like not only freepay, but most of the major freebie companies are starting to crumble... even YF Direct Nuitech and metareward are starting to make it even harder to get gifts.... I dont think many of the major freebie sites will make it to the end of this year..... ([/quote4108e0162e]

With all of this happening, it might be easier for other companies to start off if they do it how Freepay was before the change. Eventually they might do similar changes, but at least people will have new companies to work with. The big companies started somewhere, too.

J4320

01-03-2006 16:52:42

I hate this thread. Enjoy it while you can and don't worry about it. ;)

KeithA

01-03-2006 16:59:56

I'm sticking with my post above. Whether by old players like Freepay or start-ups, the incentivized affiliate marketing scene will be rejuvenated when affiliate marketing matures into a sophisticated method of targeting customers likely to stay on past a trial.

As it exists now, the system seems fated to fail because affiliates (e.g. Freepay) are rewarded for attracting customers that are likelier to be in it just for the gift than they are to be genuinely interested in the products they're trialing.

syriandoode

01-03-2006 17:49:05

[quote22c50563f7="J4320"]I hate how people mention this. Just stop talking about it. You're scaring the noobs.[/quote22c50563f7]

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