Canadians - Say YES to Tax Cut. Vote Conservative!

Conservative vows to reduce tax. Tax cut increases consumption, thus increases GDP, which leads to higher income. Conservative favors less government interference in personal lives and the economy. If you know economics, you know that the government is not efficient in wealth and resource distribution; let the market do its magic.

Vote Conservative Tomorrow.

Not sure if the term "Neocon" applies here or not but, OH NOES.

The less conservative the world is, the better, in my opinion. wink

[quote3cbc974ed1="onair"]Conservative vows to reduce tax. Tax cut increases consumption, thus increases GDP, which leads to higher income. Conservative favors less government interference in personal lives and the economy. If you know economics, you know that the government is not efficient in wealth and resource distribution; let the market do its magic.

Vote Conservative Tomorrow.[/quote3cbc974ed1]

The market also tends to favour those with more power and they end up being the winners of the game. Therefore, the little guy will end up being screwed.

If Canadians want privatized health care, vote conservative.

If Canadians want to go to war (and as a result leave themselves open to a terrorist attack), vote conservative.

If Canadians still want some sort of social safety net, vote for NDP, Green, or Liberal.

As for interference in people's lives, the Conservatives plan to strike down the same sex marriage laws that were passed in Canada. How is that interfering less in one's lives exactly?

The choice is yours today.

[quote14ce9816f8="Jake"][quote14ce9816f8="onair"]Conservative vows to reduce tax. Tax cut increases consumption, thus increases GDP, which leads to higher income. Conservative favors less government interference in personal lives and the economy. If you know economics, you know that the government is not efficient in wealth and resource distribution; let the market do its magic.

Vote Conservative Tomorrow.[/quote14ce9816f8]

The market also tends to favour those with more power and they end up being the winners of the game. Therefore, the little guy will end up being screwed.

If Canadians want privatized health care, vote conservative.

If Canadians want to go to war (and as a result leave themselves open to a terrorist attack), vote conservative.

If Canadians still want some sort of social safety net, vote for NDP, Green, or Liberal.

As for interference in people's lives, the Conservatives plan to strike down the same sex marriage laws that were passed in Canada. How is that interfering less in one's lives exactly?

The choice is yours today.[/quote14ce9816f8]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.

[quote5ceaf9ffcd="Veek"][quote5ceaf9ffcd="Jake"][quote5ceaf9ffcd="onair"]Conservative vows to reduce tax. Tax cut increases consumption, thus increases GDP, which leads to higher income. Conservative favors less government interference in personal lives and the economy. If you know economics, you know that the government is not efficient in wealth and resource distribution; let the market do its magic.

Vote Conservative Tomorrow.[/quote5ceaf9ffcd]

The market also tends to favour those with more power and they end up being the winners of the game. Therefore, the little guy will end up being screwed.

If Canadians want privatized health care, vote conservative.

If Canadians want to go to war (and as a result leave themselves open to a terrorist attack), vote conservative.

If Canadians still want some sort of social safety net, vote for NDP, Green, or Liberal.

As for interference in people's lives, the Conservatives plan to strike down the same sex marriage laws that were passed in Canada. How is that interfering less in one's lives exactly?

The choice is yours today.[/quote5ceaf9ffcd]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quote5ceaf9ffcd]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.

also to Jake's comment about the market favoring the big guy- The little guy only gets screwed because of a lack of business sense....because he/she fails to differentiate and provide a unique value proposition for the market. A free market allows for anyone (even little guys) with a sound idea and business model to win the race...even in the most competitive industry. Example Dell bursting into the PC market to become a leader.

[quote3a9eb58164="exclusiv"] I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quote3a9eb58164]

Chuck Norris did it himself back in '82.

[quote3ea906f5f5="exclusiv"][quote3ea906f5f5="Veek"]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quote3ea906f5f5]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quote3ea906f5f5]

What the fuck does me living in Hollywood and being gay have anything to do with my friends in Canada and what they're voting for?

And what do you mean a "bubble?"

[quote4d97ea0be8="Veek"][quote4d97ea0be8="exclusiv"][quote4d97ea0be8="Veek"]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quote4d97ea0be8]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quote4d97ea0be8]

What the fuck does me living in Hollywood and being gay have anything to do with my friends in Canada and what they're voting for?

And what do you mean a "bubble?"[/quote4d97ea0be8]

Being gay and living in Hollywood are complementary. People generally are friends with people of similar views. The fact that you have friends in Canada that vote for liberals is not a surprise. That is all.

And Hollywood is a liberal bubble fueled by the media and celebrity ideologies. New York as well.

In case you missed the last election, these areas are out of touch with mainstream America. They are just concentrated liberal bubbles.

[quote17cf6e1c79="exclusiv"]
also to Jake's comment about the market favoring the big guy- The little guy only gets screwed because of a lack of business sense....because he/she fails to differentiate and provide a unique value proposition for the market. A free market allows for anyone (even little guys) with a sound idea and business model to win the race...even in the most competitive industry. Example Dell bursting into the PC market to become a leader.[/quote17cf6e1c79]

Not necessarily. The little guy can get screwed because of lack of access to resources which tend to be more available to the larger players within the market.

I am sure that Dell wasn't exactly a small mom and pop operation when they started. They undoubtedly had access to a lot of capital when they jumped into the fray. Compare that with the average Joe who has a good idea but no access to resources that a large corporation like Dell would.

Essentially, they are a marketing company that sells computers and not a computer manufacturer.

[quote17cf6e1c79="exclusiv"]
In case you missed the last election, these areas are out of touch with mainstream America. They are just concentrated liberal bubbles.[/quote17cf6e1c79]

http//storiesinamerica.blogspot.com/2005_04_01_storiesinamerica_archive.html

That is a great blog where a reporter from the 'liberal bubble' of California goes to middle America to ask people questions. I think that you will be surprised by a lot of the answers given by the people interviewed.

There is also a poll that comes out of UMD every year and is very respected (if anyone can refresh my memory, that would be great). The poll asks questions about what issues are important to the average American. Surprisingly enough, the results that this poll displays are ones that elected officials do not address(Republican or Democrat).

I wouldn't say that the last election was a decisive opinion poll and I would go as far as to say that your statement is quite incorrect.

[quote4625c94aa4="exclusiv"][quote4625c94aa4="Veek"][quote4625c94aa4="exclusiv"][quote4625c94aa4="Veek"]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quote4625c94aa4]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quote4625c94aa4]

What the fuck does me living in Hollywood and being gay have anything to do with my friends in Canada and what they're voting for?

And what do you mean a "bubble?"[/quote4625c94aa4]

[b4625c94aa4]Being gay and living in Hollywood are complementary.[/b4625c94aa4] People generally are friends with people of similar views. The fact that you have friends in Canada that vote for liberals is not a surprise. That is all.

And Hollywood is a liberal bubble fueled by the media and celebrity ideologies. New York as well.

In case you missed the last election, these areas are out of touch with mainstream America. They are just concentrated liberal bubbles.[/quote4625c94aa4]

I don't know what redneck part of the world you're from, but this really made me LOL. I have YET to make a gay friend in Hollywood. As a matter of fact, most of my friends are straight. I suggest you re-think that.

You're talking about Hollywood being fuled by media and celebrity idologies while you assume things you've probably only heard on TV? If I remember correctly, celebrities were trying to get people to vote, not to vote for who they think should win.

You've earned youself a nice rank.

[quotef5a6f5eb04="Jake"][quotef5a6f5eb04="exclusiv"]
also to Jake's comment about the market favoring the big guy- The little guy only gets screwed because of a lack of business sense....because he/she fails to differentiate and provide a unique value proposition for the market. A free market allows for anyone (even little guys) with a sound idea and business model to win the race...even in the most competitive industry. Example Dell bursting into the PC market to become a leader.[/quotef5a6f5eb04]

Not necessarily. The little guy can get screwed because of lack of access to resources which tend to be more available to the larger players within the market.

I am sure that Dell wasn't exactly a small mom and pop operation when they started. They undoubtedly had access to a lot of capital when they jumped into the fray. Compare that with the average Joe who has a good idea but no access to resources that a large corporation like Dell would.

Essentially, they are a marketing company that sells computers and not a computer manufacturer.[/quotef5a6f5eb04]

Michael Dell started his company while at the University of Texas. He was just a guy with a vision that nobody saw in the competitive PC market. Of course he raised capital, that's how they exploded so fast.

Resources are easily obtained. SBA loans are simple to apply for and receive. Venture capital is always an option as well.

Liberals have screwed us.
NDP have screwed us.
Green would definitly screw us if they got in power.
The only party that isnt corrupt yet is Conservative.
Watch it guys, because tonight it is going to be a [b9982c18fac]Majority[/b9982c18fac] Conservative Government.

[quotef308d7619b="Veek"][quotef308d7619b="exclusiv"][quotef308d7619b="Veek"][quotef308d7619b="exclusiv"][quotef308d7619b="Veek"]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quotef308d7619b]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quotef308d7619b]

What the fuck does me living in Hollywood and being gay have anything to do with my friends in Canada and what they're voting for?

And what do you mean a "bubble?"[/quotef308d7619b]

[bf308d7619b]Being gay and living in Hollywood are complementary.[/bf308d7619b] People generally are friends with people of similar views. The fact that you have friends in Canada that vote for liberals is not a surprise. That is all.

And Hollywood is a liberal bubble fueled by the media and celebrity ideologies. New York as well.

In case you missed the last election, these areas are out of touch with mainstream America. They are just concentrated liberal bubbles.[/quotef308d7619b]

I don't know what redneck part of the world you're from, but this really made me LOL. I have YET to make a gay friend in Hollywood. As a matter of fact, most of my friends are straight. I suggest you re-think that.

You're talking about Hollywood being fuled by media and celebrity idologies why you assume things you've probably only heard on TV? If I remember correctly, celebrities were trying to get people to vote, not to vote for who they think should win.

You've earned youself a nice rank.[/quotef308d7619b]

I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.

[quotef5b2ad8492="bspence"]The only party that isnt corrupt yet is Conservative.
Watch it guys, because tonight it is going to be a [bf5b2ad8492]Majority[/bf5b2ad8492] Conservative Government.[/quotef5b2ad8492]

I wouldn't say that the conservatives aren't corrupt. Just wait, they haven't gotten into power yet.

[quoted1b8a73672="Jake"][quoted1b8a73672="bspence"]The only party that isnt corrupt yet is Conservative.
Watch it guys, because tonight it is going to be a [bd1b8a73672]Majority[/bd1b8a73672] Conservative Government.[/quoted1b8a73672]

I wouldn't say that the conservatives aren't corrupt. Just wait, they haven't gotten into power yet.[/quoted1b8a73672]

That is true. And thats what Im worried about. But so far, they are the only non-corrupt party. Other than the green party who stands no chance and just slits up the vote a little. I am very excited to finally have a new party elected.

[be251c8add9]VOTE NDP[/be251c8add9]

[quoteba4ebc7f69="exclusiv"]
I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.[/quoteba4ebc7f69]

Having different viewpoints from a "homosexual" doesn't bother me at all. I didn't mean it because of that. Listen to yourself, assuming that my friends votes have ties to ME being gay and living in Hollywood. Yeah, "nice try."

I've been in Los Angeles all my life. I know what's here and what's not. There are gay people everywhere, just because it's Hollywood doesn't make it any more special. You've never been here, but talking from the viewpoint of your girlfriend? Enough said.

I don't recall any celebrity telling me to vote for Bush, I do remember celebrities trying to get people to vote.

Either way, my friends votes in Canada have nothing to do with me, no matter if they're straight or gay.

[quotec44b2b4076="exclusiv"]
Resources are easily obtained. SBA loans are simple to apply for and receive. Venture capital is always an option as well.[/quotec44b2b4076]

Those are significant barriers to entry in a supposedly free market.

[quoteb6ed105e21="exclusiv"][quoteb6ed105e21="Veek"][quoteb6ed105e21="exclusiv"][quoteb6ed105e21="Veek"][quoteb6ed105e21="exclusiv"][quoteb6ed105e21="Veek"]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quoteb6ed105e21]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quoteb6ed105e21]

What the fuck does me living in Hollywood and being gay have anything to do with my friends in Canada and what they're voting for?

And what do you mean a "bubble?"[/quoteb6ed105e21]

[bb6ed105e21]Being gay and living in Hollywood are complementary.[/bb6ed105e21] People generally are friends with people of similar views. The fact that you have friends in Canada that vote for liberals is not a surprise. That is all.

And Hollywood is a liberal bubble fueled by the media and celebrity ideologies. New York as well.

In case you missed the last election, these areas are out of touch with mainstream America. They are just concentrated liberal bubbles.[/quoteb6ed105e21]

I don't know what redneck part of the world you're from, but this really made me LOL. I have YET to make a gay friend in Hollywood. As a matter of fact, most of my friends are straight. I suggest you re-think that.

You're talking about Hollywood being fuled by media and celebrity idologies why you assume things you've probably only heard on TV? If I remember correctly, celebrities were trying to get people to vote, not to vote for who they think should win.

You've earned youself a nice rank.[/quoteb6ed105e21]

I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.[/quoteb6ed105e21]All homosexuals are bleeding heart liberals right?

[quoteac0b8672bb="exclusiv"]
I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.[/quoteac0b8672bb]
Begin a redneck has more to with state of mind than where you live. According to the 2004 Pres. election results, you're also living in one of the "areas are out of touch with mainstream America."

However, I also found all those celebs annoying before those elections. The pro-kerry ones got more attention but there were some hillbilly country singers for Bush too.

[quoteb8a13f5fde="bspence"]That is true. And thats what Im worried about. But so far, they are the only non-corrupt party. Other than the green party who stands no chance and just slits up the vote a little. I am very excited to finally have a new party elected.[/quoteb8a13f5fde]

I vote Green simply because they need the votes and represent my interests best.

[quotefe0a24316b="exclusiv"]There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?[/quotefe0a24316b]

Then naturally, your girlfriend is gay...yes? Boy have you been out of the loop. Wait...what is this?? What is this feeling? I think...I'm becoming sexually attracted to you. Maybe you were right...maybe, just maybe, my associating with Veek has completely altered my sexuality! Holy shit you're a genius. Write a book. NOW!

[quote6be27e0a6e="Veek"][quote6be27e0a6e="exclusiv"]
I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.[/quote6be27e0a6e]

Having different viewpoints from a "homosexual" doesn't bother me at all. I didn't mean it because of that. Listen to yourself, assuming that my friends votes have ties to ME being gay and living in Hollywood. Yeah, "nice try."

I've been in Los Angeles all my life. I know what's here and what's not. There are gay people everywhere, just because it's Hollywood doesn't make it any more special. You've never been here, but talking from the viewpoint of your girlfriend? Enough said.

I don't recall any celebrity telling me to vote for Bush, I do remember celebrities trying to get people to vote.

Either way, my friends votes in Canada have nothing to do with me, no matter if they're straight or gay.[/quote6be27e0a6e]

I never assumed that your friends have ties to YOU being gay and living in Hollywood. I saw your post saying that your friends in Canada are voting liberal and said that it doesn't surprise me. How could I assume if I read what you typed?

And there is something that doesn't make sense- You are gay. You have lived in Hollywood all your life, yet you have yet to make one gay friend? You are lying.

Yes I am talking from my viewpoint of my girlfriend, but she has a LOT of gay friends. She was in theater and is in Hollywood to become an actress. Just because I haven't been there doesn't mean it's not true.

So either there are no gays in Hollywood, or you, being gay, just has a hard time making friends (since you have YET to make one). Do you have problems making friends Veek (in the real world)?

[quote87303462ee="hehehhehe"][quote87303462ee="exclusiv"]
I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.[/quote87303462ee]
Begin a redneck has more to with state of mind than where you live. According to the 2004 Pres. election results, you're also living in one of the "areas are out of touch with mainstream America."

However, I also found all those celebs annoying before those elections. The pro-kerry ones got more attention but there were some hillbilly country singers for Bush too.[/quote87303462ee]

I live just outside of Chicago, but yes Chicago is blue because of the Daleys. The rest of Illinois is red. All the top MSAs (New York, LA, Chicago) are bubbles, vastly because of the liberal media. Amazing how the Democrats won these top MSAs but lost the election.

[quotea90cae3702="exclusiv"][quotea90cae3702="Veek"]
Having different viewpoints from a "homosexual" doesn't bother me at all. I didn't mean it because of that. Listen to yourself, assuming that my friends votes have ties to ME being gay and living in Hollywood. Yeah, "nice try."

I've been in Los Angeles all my life. I know what's here and what's not. There are gay people everywhere, just because it's Hollywood doesn't make it any more special. You've never been here, but talking from the viewpoint of your girlfriend? Enough said.

I don't recall any celebrity telling me to vote for Bush, I do remember celebrities trying to get people to vote.

Either way, my friends votes in Canada have nothing to do with me, no matter if they're straight or gay.[/quotea90cae3702]

I never assumed that your friends have ties to YOU being gay and living in Hollywood. I saw your post saying that your friends in Canada are voting liberal and said that it doesn't surprise me. How could I assume if I read what you typed?

And there is something that doesn't make sense- You are gay. You have lived in Hollywood all your life, yet you have yet to make one gay friend? You are lying.

Yes I am talking from my viewpoint of my girlfriend, but she has a LOT of gay friends. She was in theater and is in Hollywood to become an actress. Just because I haven't been there doesn't mean it's not true.

So either there are no gays in Hollywood, or you, being gay, just has a hard time making friends (since you have YET to make one). Do you have problems making friends Veek (in the real world)?[/quotea90cae3702]

You're training off subject.

Why does it surprise you? Would it have surprised you if I would have never said anything about being gay? Would it have surprised you if you didn't know where I lived? The reason it surprised you it's because of where I live, and what my orientation is. You clearly said it when you posted it. If anyone is lying, it's you.

No, as a photographer, you can't have a hard time making friends. In addition, I've become slightly known around here. I easily make friends, to answer your question.

I'm not lying, I'm telling the thruth. I don't randomly walk up to people and ask, "Hey! Are you gay? If so, let's be/not be friends.

Also, you can't back up what you're saying anymore. Everything you've said to me has not even from personal experience. So why am I wasting time? I don't know.

[quote9d206a46c3="FreeOffersNow"][quote9d206a46c3="exclusiv"]There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?[/quote9d206a46c3]

Then naturally, your girlfriend is gay...yes? Boy have you been out of the loop. Wait...what is this?? What is this feeling? I think...I'm becoming sexually attracted to you. Maybe you were right...maybe, just maybe, my associating with Veek has completely altered my sexuality! Holy shit you're a genius. Write a book. NOW![/quote9d206a46c3]

This makes no sense. Where did I say everyone in Hollywood is gay or affiliating with gay people makes you gay? Thanks for being comical though. )

[quote1cc2fdca36="FreeOffersNow"][quote1cc2fdca36="exclusiv"]There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?[/quote1cc2fdca36]

Then naturally, your girlfriend is gay...yes? Boy have you been out of the loop. Wait...what is this?? What is this feeling? I think...I'm becoming sexually attracted to you. Maybe you were right...maybe, just maybe, my associating with Veek has completely altered my sexuality! Holy shit you're a genius. Write a book. NOW![/quote1cc2fdca36]

Haha, seriously! Be careful, man. I might rub off on you and might cause you to, who knows! Maybe even do something you otherwise wouldn't if you weren't associating yourself with me. shock

[quote3bd8bc0203="Veek"][quote3bd8bc0203="exclusiv"][quote3bd8bc0203="Veek"]
Having different viewpoints from a "homosexual" doesn't bother me at all. I didn't mean it because of that. Listen to yourself, assuming that my friends votes have ties to ME being gay and living in Hollywood. Yeah, "nice try."

I've been in Los Angeles all my life. I know what's here and what's not. There are gay people everywhere, just because it's Hollywood doesn't make it any more special. You've never been here, but talking from the viewpoint of your girlfriend? Enough said.

I don't recall any celebrity telling me to vote for Bush, I do remember celebrities trying to get people to vote.

Either way, my friends votes in Canada have nothing to do with me, no matter if they're straight or gay.[/quote3bd8bc0203]

I never assumed that your friends have ties to YOU being gay and living in Hollywood. I saw your post saying that your friends in Canada are voting liberal and said that it doesn't surprise me. How could I assume if I read what you typed?

And there is something that doesn't make sense- You are gay. You have lived in Hollywood all your life, yet you have yet to make one gay friend? You are lying.

Yes I am talking from my viewpoint of my girlfriend, but she has a LOT of gay friends. She was in theater and is in Hollywood to become an actress. Just because I haven't been there doesn't mean it's not true.

So either there are no gays in Hollywood, or you, being gay, just has a hard time making friends (since you have YET to make one). Do you have problems making friends Veek (in the real world)?[/quote3bd8bc0203]

You're training off subject.

Why does it surprise you? Would it have surprised you if I would have never said anything about being gay? Would it have surprised you if you didn't know where I lived? The reason it surprised you it's because of where I live, and what my orientation is. You clearly said it when you posted it. If anyone is lying, it's you.

No, as a photographer, you can't have a hard time making friends. In addition, I've become slightly known around here. I easily make friends, to answer your question.

I'm not lying, I'm telling the thruth. I don't randomly walk up to people and ask, "Hey! Are you gay? If so, let's be/not be friends.

Also, you can't back up what you're saying anymore. Everything you've said to me has not even from personal experience. So why am I wasting time? I don't know.[/quote3bd8bc0203].

I knew you were gay before you admitted it on this board. It was quite obvious.

[b3bd8bc0203]And How can you be gay if you have no gay friends? You are lying.[/b3bd8bc0203]

[quote86137b8a9d="exclusiv"]
I knew you were gay before you admitted it on this board. It was quite obvious.

[b86137b8a9d]And How can you be gay if you have no gay friends? You are lying.[/b86137b8a9d][/quote86137b8a9d]

You didn't know shit. It's obvious.

How can I be gay without gay friends? Oh, so now I can't be gay because I don't have any gay friends? Because most of my friends are straight? I [b86137b8a9d]have[/b86137b8a9d] to have gay friends? Woah, news to me! This is seriously has been a life learning experience.

exclusiv, stop googling for your viewpoints and you might have an idea what you're saying...this way you won't sound like an idiot when you reply. Further, stop fucking quoting the entire previous post...we all know what it said...

[quote1f152af0eb]And How can you be gay if you have no gay friends? You are lying.[/quote1f152af0eb]

Let the stereotypes flow....

exclusiv, here's a final thought

Don't assume shit, you end up looking like a moron.

I won't allow this to turn into the "homosexuality" thread.

Have fun.

[quotef611733ff9="FreeOffersNow"]Let the stereotypes flow...
[/quotef611733ff9]

They've been flowing. ;)

[quote70cb3d3731="Veek"][quote70cb3d3731="exclusiv"]
I knew you were gay before you admitted it on this board. It was quite obvious.

[b70cb3d3731]And How can you be gay if you have no gay friends? You are lying.[/b70cb3d3731][/quote70cb3d3731]

You didn't know shit. It's obvious.

How can I be gay without gay friends? Oh, so now I can't be gay because I don't have any gay friends? Because most of my friends are straight? I [b70cb3d3731]have[/b70cb3d3731] to have gay friends? Woah, news to me! This is seriously has been a life learning experience.[/quote70cb3d3731]

Honestly Veek, I did know before you admitted it. Why does that bother you?

YES YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE GAY FRIENDS IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE GAY.

Even me, the "redneck" as you state it, has several gay friends.

You aren't making any sense. I seriously think you are a very confused individual if you think that you don't have to have gay friends to be gay.

[quoteac2e87ec40="bspence"]Liberals have screwed us.
NDP have screwed us.
Green would definitly screw us if they got in power.
The only party that isnt corrupt yet is Conservative.
Watch it guys, because tonight it is going to be a [bac2e87ec40]Majority[/bac2e87ec40] Conservative Government.[/quoteac2e87ec40]

Conservative Govt in the US is the most corrupt. Supply side economics work how? Tax cuts? I think you forgot who you are cutting the taxes too. At least in the US Bush cut the majority of taxes to people with the most money. Lets take a brief moment to contemplate on how all thoose people with there "Thank me for your tax cut" bumber stickers on there shitty old trucks. And then look at the big W on the back of a H2 with a business logo on it. The business logo being on there while driving around recreationally. That business logo alows that H2 to be deducted as a Business expense. Brilliant!

You go out and pay your taxes and let us sit back and watch the rich get richer, and the seperation of classes spread apart.

[quotef2a0404bdd="Allen626"][quotef2a0404bdd="bspence"]Liberals have screwed us.
NDP have screwed us.
Green would definitly screw us if they got in power.
The only party that isnt corrupt yet is Conservative.
Watch it guys, because tonight it is going to be a [bf2a0404bdd]Majority[/bf2a0404bdd] Conservative Government.[/quotef2a0404bdd]

Conservative Govt in the US is the most corrupt. Supply side economics work how? Tax cuts? I think you forgot who you are cutting the taxes too. At least in the US Bush cut the majority of taxes to people with the most money. Lets take a brief moment to contemplate on how all thoose people with there "Thank me for your tax cut" bumber stickers on there shitty old trucks. And then look at the big W on the back of a H2 with a business logo on it. The business logo being on there while driving around recreationally. That business logo alows that H2 to be deducted as a Business expense. Brilliant!

You go out and pay your taxes and let us sit back and watch the rich get richer, and the seperation of classes spread apart.[/quotef2a0404bdd]

this belief is a fallacy

The top 20% income bracket pay 80% of the total taxes!

[quote0b5eed2700="exclusiv"][quote0b5eed2700="Allen626"]
You go out and pay your taxes and let us sit back and watch the rich get richer, and the seperation of classes spread apart.[/quote0b5eed2700]

this belief is a fallacy

The top 20% income bracket pay 80% of the total taxes![/quote0b5eed2700]
I can break down that top 20% to support what Allen626 says so let's not start that "fallacy" bullshit.

[quote1169254f1c="exclusiv"][quote1169254f1c="Allen626"][quote1169254f1c="bspence"]Liberals have screwed us.
NDP have screwed us.
Green would definitly screw us if they got in power.
The only party that isnt corrupt yet is Conservative.
Watch it guys, because tonight it is going to be a [b1169254f1c]Majority[/b1169254f1c] Conservative Government.[/quote1169254f1c]

Conservative Govt in the US is the most corrupt. Supply side economics work how? Tax cuts? I think you forgot who you are cutting the taxes too. At least in the US Bush cut the majority of taxes to people with the most money. Lets take a brief moment to contemplate on how all thoose people with there "Thank me for your tax cut" bumber stickers on there shitty old trucks. And then look at the big W on the back of a H2 with a business logo on it. The business logo being on there while driving around recreationally. That business logo alows that H2 to be deducted as a Business expense. Brilliant!

You go out and pay your taxes and let us sit back and watch the rich get richer, and the seperation of classes spread apart.[/quote1169254f1c]

this belief is a fallacy

The top 20% income bracket pay 80% of the total taxes![/quote1169254f1c]

Documentation?

Plus it is not a fallacy, Bush, Bush Senior, and Reagan all used Supply Side economics. Sometimes called Reagonomics. The economic policy which cuts taxes for the wealthy for the intent for it to "trickle down" to the poor. By them investing in there own business's allowing the consumer to demand lower prices.

[quote34b24b7c53="hehehhehe"][quote34b24b7c53="exclusiv"][quote34b24b7c53="Allen626"]
You go out and pay your taxes and let us sit back and watch the rich get richer, and the seperation of classes spread apart.[/quote34b24b7c53]

this belief is a fallacy

The top 20% income bracket pay 80% of the total taxes![/quote34b24b7c53]
I can break down that top 20% to support what Allen626 says so let's not start that "fallacy" bullshit.[/quote34b24b7c53]

it is a fact that people with low incomes do not pay shit for taxes

I would like for you to break that down, prove it. That is statistical. People that make the most money pay the most taxes, therefore deserving the most in tax cuts. It's common sense.

Why don't we just make it so everyone pays the same % of their income. That would be the most fair wouldn't it? Oh wait, we wouldn't be able to build shit. Fact is, the top 20% pay for everything that many Americans take for granted.

[quoteace3c8a5ee="exclusiv"]
it is a fact that people with low incomes do not pay shit for taxes

I would like for you to break that down, prove it. That is statistical. People that make the most money pay the most taxes, [bace3c8a5ee]therefore deserving the most in tax cuts. It's common sense.

Why don't we just make it so everyone pays the same % of their income. That would be the most fair wouldn't it? Oh wait, we wouldn't be able to build shit. Fact is, the top 20% pay for everything that many Americans take for granted.[/bace3c8a5ee][/quoteace3c8a5ee]
It is also a fact that the wealthier are getting wealthier and the separation between classes is getting larger. We both know that.

I've put the subjective part of your post in Bold. Don't try to pass off your opinions as common sense, as you're not exactly the most unbiased person here, as can be seen in your posts in this thread alone.

As for that "breakdown," I can turn around and say that those 20% have a much higher net worth, and do not pay nearly as much as those in lower tax brackets, proportionately. I can have a field day with the top 5% or 1%, and if you have a clue about the distrib. of income/wealth in the US, you know I can. I'm not saying that it's that wrong, as I'm no commie, but my point is to say arguments can be made both ways so don't pull that "that is a fallacy" bullshit.

[quotecb0fd3f968="hehehhehe"][quotecb0fd3f968="exclusiv"]
it is a fact that people with low incomes do not pay shit for taxes

I would like for you to break that down, prove it. That is statistical. People that make the most money pay the most taxes, [bcb0fd3f968]therefore deserving the most in tax cuts. It's common sense.

Why don't we just make it so everyone pays the same % of their income. That would be the most fair wouldn't it? Oh wait, we wouldn't be able to build shit. Fact is, the top 20% pay for everything that many Americans take for granted.[/bcb0fd3f968][/quotecb0fd3f968]
It is also a fact that the wealthier are getting wealthier and the separation between classes is getting larger. We both know that.

I've put the subjective part of your post in Bold. Don't try to pass off your opinions as common sense, as you're not exactly the most unbiased person here, as can be seen in your posts in this thread alone.

[bcb0fd3f968]As for that "breakdown," I can turn around and say that those 20% have a much higher net worth, and do not pay nearly as much as those in lower tax brackets, proportionately[/bcb0fd3f968]. I can have a field day with the top 5% or 1%, and if you have a clue about the distrib. of income/wealth in the US, you know I can. I'm not saying that it's that wrong, as I'm no commie, but my point is to say arguments can be made both ways so don't pull that "that is a fallacy" bullshit.[/quotecb0fd3f968]

that makes no sense. net worth doesnt matter, because they have earned that. whatever assets they have earned, they have already paid taxes on in previous years. higher tax bracket pays a disproportionate amount, a higher % of their annual income. you are wrong. do you understand tax brackets and percentages?

you cannot have a field day with the top 5% or the top 1% either. they pay the highest taxes and they have earned the money they get.

[quote70974a0d4e="exclusiv"]
that makes no sense. net worth doesnt matter, because they have earned that. whatever assets they have earned, they have already paid taxes on in previous years. higher tax bracket pays a disproportionate amount, a higher % of their annual income. you are wrong. do you understand tax brackets and percentages?

you cannot have a field day with the top 5% or the top 1% either. they pay the highest taxes and they have earned the money they get.[/quote70974a0d4e]
It actually makes as much sense as your subjective arguments (hence the use of "I can turn around and say"). I guess you still don't get it, so I guess I have to just have to spell it out for you. My point is about your use of percentages in this case. Whether you accept the arguments presented to you or not, they can be used either way so it's useless. Don't continue to bring up the obvious either. Yes, I understand tax brackets, having worked both here and in a country run by socialists where I paid taxes out of my ass.

You didn't understand my field day comment either, big surprise... roll

[quoteb375368186="hehehhehe"][quoteb375368186="exclusiv"]
that makes no sense. net worth doesnt matter, because they have earned that. whatever assets they have earned, they have already paid taxes on in previous years. higher tax bracket pays a disproportionate amount, a higher % of their annual income. you are wrong. do you understand tax brackets and percentages?

you cannot have a field day with the top 5% or the top 1% either. they pay the highest taxes and they have earned the money they get.[/quoteb375368186]
It actually makes as much sense as your subjective arguments (hence the use of "I can turn around and say"). I guess you still don't get it, so I guess I have to just have to spell it out for you. My point is about your use of percentages in this case. Whether you accept the arguments presented to you or not, they can be used either way so it's useless. Don't continue to bring up the obvious either. Yes, I understand tax brackets, having worked both here and in a country run by socialists where I paid taxes out of my ass.

You didn't understand my field day comment either, big surprise... roll[/quoteb375368186]

you say that you can argue against the statistics but yet you didn't offer any opposing view... big surprise

As George Washington warned us, beware political parties) Well this is different in the sense these elections involve Canada and not the USA. I am tired of the shit both Republicans and Democrats are doing in the USA. I wish an independent candidate that was fairly decent would run for the next presidential election. Stop bickering people )

Bill O'Reilly is an independant!

At lease he claims to be. roll

[quoted13f2250f5="exclusiv"]
you say that you can argue against the statistics but yet you didn't offer any opposing view... big surprise[/quoted13f2250f5]
I never said I was going to argue against statistics, I said I could use what the top 20% in another way (go, Reading Comprehension!). My point, AGAIN being that we can pick and choose which ratio we want to try to prove our points. I gave that Net Worth comment as an example of that, but for some reason, wealth distribution isn't counted now according to you, when Allen626's comment that started this all had to do with both income and wealth distrib (again, go, Reading Comprehension!).

[quoteed17812656="hehehhehe"][quoteed17812656="exclusiv"]
you say that you can argue against the statistics but yet you didn't offer any opposing view... big surprise[/quoteed17812656]
I never said I was going to argue against statistics, I said I could use what the top 20% in another way (go, Reading Comprehension!). My point, AGAIN being that we can pick and choose which ratio we want to try to prove our points. I gave that Net Worth comment as an example of that, but for some reason, wealth distribution isn't counted now according to you, when Allen626's comment that started this all had to do with both income and wealth distrib (again, go, Reading Comprehension!).[/quoteed17812656]

we were talking about taxes and the tax share, which relates to annual taxable income (yay, go Reading Comprehension!)

I have a feeling your entire family is going down soon. And nice avatar (go go gadget GAY!)

[quote43c1965f9d="exclusiv"][quote43c1965f9d="hehehhehe"][quote43c1965f9d="exclusiv"]
you say that you can argue against the statistics but yet you didn't offer any opposing view... big surprise[/quote43c1965f9d]
I never said I was going to argue against statistics, I said I could use what the top 20% in another way (go, Reading Comprehension!). My point, AGAIN being that we can pick and choose which ratio we want to try to prove our points. I gave that Net Worth comment as an example of that, but for some reason, wealth distribution isn't counted now according to you, when Allen626's comment that started this all had to do with both income and wealth distrib (again, go, Reading Comprehension!).[/quote43c1965f9d]

we were talking about taxes and the tax share, which relates to annual taxable income (yay, go Reading Comprehension!)

I have a feeling your entire family is going down soon. [b43c1965f9d]And nice avatar (go go gadget GAY!)[/b43c1965f9d][/quote43c1965f9d]

There goes any credibility or any serious points you have made in this thread.

Go go gadget Redneck!

[quote536f5087a2="theysayjump"][quote536f5087a2="exclusiv"][quote536f5087a2="hehehhehe"][quote536f5087a2="exclusiv"]
you say that you can argue against the statistics but yet you didn't offer any opposing view... big surprise[/quote536f5087a2]
I never said I was going to argue against statistics, I said I could use what the top 20% in another way (go, Reading Comprehension!). My point, AGAIN being that we can pick and choose which ratio we want to try to prove our points. I gave that Net Worth comment as an example of that, but for some reason, wealth distribution isn't counted now according to you, when Allen626's comment that started this all had to do with both income and wealth distrib (again, go, Reading Comprehension!).[/quote536f5087a2]

we were talking about taxes and the tax share, which relates to annual taxable income (yay, go Reading Comprehension!)

I have a feeling your entire family is going down soon. [b536f5087a2]And nice avatar (go go gadget GAY!)[/b536f5087a2][/quote536f5087a2]

There goes any credibility or any serious points you have made in this thread.

Go go gadget Redneck![/quote536f5087a2]


My goodness that made me chuckle ) Can eveyone just expect the fact we all have different views on politics and move on? Who cares who started what and who said what ) Life is like a box of chocolates. BOOM BOP Suprise. Err i want some chocolate. I swear i didn't have any for like 6 months roll

[quote6e9243426a="theysayjump"][quote6e9243426a="exclusiv"][quote6e9243426a="hehehhehe"][quote6e9243426a="exclusiv"]
you say that you can argue against the statistics but yet you didn't offer any opposing view... big surprise[/quote6e9243426a]
I never said I was going to argue against statistics, I said I could use what the top 20% in another way (go, Reading Comprehension!). My point, AGAIN being that we can pick and choose which ratio we want to try to prove our points. I gave that Net Worth comment as an example of that, but for some reason, wealth distribution isn't counted now according to you, when Allen626's comment that started this all had to do with both income and wealth distrib (again, go, Reading Comprehension!).[/quote6e9243426a]

we were talking about taxes and the tax share, which relates to annual taxable income (yay, go Reading Comprehension!)

I have a feeling your entire family is going down soon. [b6e9243426a]And nice avatar (go go gadget GAY!)[/b6e9243426a][/quote6e9243426a]

There goes any credibility or any serious points you have made in this thread.

Go go gadget Redneck![/quote6e9243426a]

Are you trying to tell me they aren't gay?

Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.

[quote62e238c93a="exclusiv"][quote62e238c93a="theysayjump"][quote62e238c93a="exclusiv"][quote62e238c93a="hehehhehe"][quote62e238c93a="exclusiv"]
you say that you can argue against the statistics but yet you didn't offer any opposing view... big surprise[/quote62e238c93a]
I never said I was going to argue against statistics, I said I could use what the top 20% in another way (go, Reading Comprehension!). My point, AGAIN being that we can pick and choose which ratio we want to try to prove our points. I gave that Net Worth comment as an example of that, but for some reason, wealth distribution isn't counted now according to you, when Allen626's comment that started this all had to do with both income and wealth distrib (again, go, Reading Comprehension!).[/quote62e238c93a]

we were talking about taxes and the tax share, which relates to annual taxable income (yay, go Reading Comprehension!)

I have a feeling your entire family is going down soon. [b62e238c93a]And nice avatar (go go gadget GAY!)[/b62e238c93a][/quote62e238c93a]

There goes any credibility or any serious points you have made in this thread.

Go go gadget Redneck![/quote62e238c93a]

Are you trying to tell me they aren't gay?[/quote62e238c93a]

I was under the impression that avatars and other non-tangible, inanimate "things" were void of sexual preferance.

Of all the Gay bars I've been to, I've never seen or been approached by an avatar.

[quoteb4bebed533="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quoteb4bebed533]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.

[quote876d107457="exclusiv"][quote876d107457="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quote876d107457]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.[/quote876d107457]

So because Paris Hilton is richer than you or I, that makes her smarter?

Funny thing is, although I don't consider myself liberal or conservative, I agree with the overall idea that the richer do pay a lot of taxes for the country. I just don't know why he doesn't admit that the rich do get richer and the class separation is getting larger. It just feels so biased...

And why is my enitre family going down soon? shrug I guess you really ran out of things to say?

EDIT Ah so there you finally said it. Why didn't you just say so when Allen626 said it? And no, it takes more than some dumb kid on a forum to hurt me.

[quote813067a7ae="theysayjump"][quote813067a7ae="exclusiv"][quote813067a7ae="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quote813067a7ae]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.[/quote813067a7ae]

So because Paris Hilton is richer than you or I, that makes her smarter?[/quote813067a7ae]lilooks at avatarli I didnt know you were gay TSJ, i thought you had a wife?

roll

[quotea234744389="theysayjump"][quotea234744389="exclusiv"][quotea234744389="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quotea234744389]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.[/quotea234744389]

So because Paris Hilton is richer than you or I, that makes her smarter?[/quotea234744389]

If you took away anything she's been given, she's definitely made more money than you have on her own accord anyway. How she got there, doesn't matter. She capitalized on her name. So business wise she is smarter than you.

[quoted037890728="exclusiv"][quoted037890728="theysayjump"][quoted037890728="exclusiv"][quoted037890728="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quoted037890728]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.[/quoted037890728]

So because Paris Hilton is richer than you or I, that makes her smarter?[/quoted037890728]

If you took away anything she's been given, she's definitely made more money than you have on her own accord anyway. How she got there, doesn't matter. She capitalized on her name. So business wise she is smarter than you.[/quoted037890728]Give me a million dollar name and i can be pretty damn "business wise" also...

[quote4fa910d0ce="Crynos"][quote4fa910d0ce="exclusiv"][quote4fa910d0ce="theysayjump"][quote4fa910d0ce="exclusiv"][quote4fa910d0ce="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quote4fa910d0ce]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.[/quote4fa910d0ce]

So because Paris Hilton is richer than you or I, that makes her smarter?[/quote4fa910d0ce]

If you took away anything she's been given, she's definitely made more money than you have on her own accord anyway. How she got there, doesn't matter. She capitalized on her name. So business wise she is smarter than you.[/quote4fa910d0ce]Give me a million dollar name and i can be pretty damn "business wise" also...[/quote4fa910d0ce]

i doubt it. who would want to see your video? )

[quote983c0e2075="exclusiv"][quote983c0e2075="theysayjump"][quote983c0e2075="exclusiv"][quote983c0e2075="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quote983c0e2075]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.[/quote983c0e2075]

So because Paris Hilton is richer than you or I, that makes her smarter?[/quote983c0e2075]

If you took away anything she's been given, she's definitely made more money than you have on her own accord anyway. How she got there, doesn't matter. She capitalized on her name. So business wise she is smarter than you.[/quote983c0e2075]

I wouldn't consider (capitalising on her name) making the entire worls think she's a twat, dumb, spoiled and nothing more than a little rich girl a "smart" thing to do.

Being rich and making good business decisions doesn't make someone smarter than others.

I was under the impression that avatars and other non-tangible, inanimate "things" were void of sexual preferance.

Of all the Gay bars I've been to, I've never seen or been approached by an avatar.

not true
sexual toys that have been used in gay acts are gay
richard simmons tshirts are gay
and avatars such as yours, especially those containing a rainbow are gay

this is common knowledge

[quote0aed001e8e][quote0aed001e8e="exclusiv"]
I was under the impression that avatars and other non-tangible, inanimate "things" were void of sexual preferance.

Of all the Gay bars I've been to, I've never seen or been approached by an avatar.[/quote0aed001e8e]

not true
sexual toys that have been used in gay acts are gay
richard simmons tshirts are gay
and avatars such as yours, especially those containing a rainbow are gay

this is common knowledge[/quote0aed001e8e]

It's a good job I can tell when people are being facetious. Otherwise I would've voted for you to be FiPG Most Dillusional & Ignorant Member (2006).

[quote363a0fd607="theysayjump"][quote363a0fd607="exclusiv"][quote363a0fd607="theysayjump"][quote363a0fd607="exclusiv"][quote363a0fd607="hehehhehe"]Does anyone even know what he means by "(go go gadget GAY!)"?

How can the concept of "the rich getting richer" not have to do with wealth distribution? Also, please try to be more creative, it's not very effective when all you do is try to copy my put downs.[/quote363a0fd607]

Awww did I hurt your feelings?

Anyway, the rich are always going to get richer, they are smarter and have business sense. Survival of the fittest. I never denied the wealth distribution.

I was merely making a point about taxes and the fact that the rich pay most of the taxes. They deserve the cuts. Saying that taxes are for the rich is stupid.[/quote363a0fd607]

So because Paris Hilton is richer than you or I, that makes her smarter?[/quote363a0fd607]

If you took away anything she's been given, she's definitely made more money than you have on her own accord anyway. How she got there, doesn't matter. She capitalized on her name. So business wise she is smarter than you.[/quote363a0fd607]

I wouldn't consider (capitalising on her name) making the entire worls think she's a twat, dumb, spoiled and nothing more than a little rich girl a "smart" thing to do.

Being rich and making good business decisions doesn't make someone smarter than others.[/quote363a0fd607]

It was smart for her. She is definitely not intelligent or knowledgeable. What does she seriously have to offer? Nothing. I'd say all her choices were wise for her (but for her only). She has made more money on her own than you and marketed herself to notoriety (whether you agree with what she does or not), so from a business standpoint she is smarter than you.

Yeah from business standpoint she is.

That's like saying from a terrorist standpoint, Osama Bin Laden is smarter than I am. Or from Musical standpoint, Paul McCartney is smarter than I am.

What difference does it make? If I was a businessman or had any interest in being one, then I may give a shit, but I don't.

From a feline standpoint, I am smarter than my cat because I have opposable thumbs.

[quote6fb11f68ff="theysayjump"]Yeah from business standpoint she is.

That's like saying from a terrorist standpoint, Osama Bin Laden is smarter than I am. Or from Musical standpoint, Paul McCartney is smarter than I am.

What difference does it make? If I was a businessman or had any interest in being one, then I may give a shit, but I don't.

From a feline standpoint, I am smarter than my cat because I have opposable thumbs.[/quote6fb11f68ff]

I agree. It doesn't make any difference. Paris is a worthless slut no matter how much money she makes.

Oh and lol on your comment about cats and opposable thumbs. I just thought of Meet the Parents when Jack tells Greg something like "cats dont have opposable thumbs Focker. how could jinxi flush the toilet"

Will you stupid sluts learn how to quote?

For example

[quoteb7c26d2183="Crynos"]All homosexuals are bleeding heart liberals right?[/quoteb7c26d2183]

Instead of

[quoteb7c26d2183="Crynos"][quoteb7c26d2183="exclusiv"][quoteb7c26d2183="Veek"][quoteb7c26d2183="exclusiv"][quoteb7c26d2183="Veek"][quoteb7c26d2183="exclusiv"][quoteb7c26d2183="Veek"]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quoteb7c26d2183]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quoteb7c26d2183]

What the fuck does me living in Hollywood and being gay have anything to do with my friends in Canada and what they're voting for?

And what do you mean a "bubble?"[/quoteb7c26d2183]

[bb7c26d2183]Being gay and living in Hollywood are complementary.[/bb7c26d2183] People generally are friends with people of similar views. The fact that you have friends in Canada that vote for liberals is not a surprise. That is all.

And Hollywood is a liberal bubble fueled by the media and celebrity ideologies. New York as well.

In case you missed the last election, these areas are out of touch with mainstream America. They are just concentrated liberal bubbles.[/quoteb7c26d2183]

I don't know what redneck part of the world you're from, but this really made me LOL. I have YET to make a gay friend in Hollywood. As a matter of fact, most of my friends are straight. I suggest you re-think that.

You're talking about Hollywood being fuled by media and celebrity idologies why you assume things you've probably only heard on TV? If I remember correctly, celebrities were trying to get people to vote, not to vote for who they think should win.

You've earned youself a nice rank.[/quoteb7c26d2183]

I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.[/quoteb7c26d2183]All homosexuals are bleeding heart liberals right?[/quoteb7c26d2183]

[quote28d7df0282="FreeOffersNow"]Will you stupid sluts learn how to quote?

For example

[quote28d7df0282="Crynos"]All homosexuals are bleeding heart liberals right?[/quote28d7df0282]

Instead of

[quote28d7df0282="Crynos"][quote28d7df0282="exclusiv"][quote28d7df0282="Veek"][quote28d7df0282="exclusiv"][quote28d7df0282="Veek"][quote28d7df0282="exclusiv"][quote28d7df0282="Veek"]

Most Canadians I know ( wink ) will be voting Liberals.[/quote28d7df0282]

not a big surprise
you are gay and live in the Hollywood bubble

and Jake, fact of the matter is that Canada is extremely open to a terrorist attack. I could round up about 8 friends armed with spears and conquer Canada.[/quote28d7df0282]

What the fuck does me living in Hollywood and being gay have anything to do with my friends in Canada and what they're voting for?

And what do you mean a "bubble?"[/quote28d7df0282]

[b28d7df0282]Being gay and living in Hollywood are complementary.[/b28d7df0282] People generally are friends with people of similar views. The fact that you have friends in Canada that vote for liberals is not a surprise. That is all.

And Hollywood is a liberal bubble fueled by the media and celebrity ideologies. New York as well.

In case you missed the last election, these areas are out of touch with mainstream America. They are just concentrated liberal bubbles.[/quote28d7df0282]

I don't know what redneck part of the world you're from, but this really made me LOL. I have YET to make a gay friend in Hollywood. As a matter of fact, most of my friends are straight. I suggest you re-think that.

You're talking about Hollywood being fuled by media and celebrity idologies why you assume things you've probably only heard on TV? If I remember correctly, celebrities were trying to get people to vote, not to vote for who they think should win.

You've earned youself a nice rank.[/quote28d7df0282]

I'm from Chicago, nice try with the redneck comment. Just because someone has differing viewpoints from a homosexual they are a redneck, huh?

There are gay people everywhere in Hollywood, what are you talking about? My girlfriend lives there and is friends with and works with many gays. How long have you been there?

I don't watch TV anyway. And celebrities WERE trying to push their agenda. Even the so-called concerts advocating voting had obvious liberal ties. Hollywood pushes movies with agendas but yet the democratic party cannot get it done.[/quote28d7df0282]All homosexuals are bleeding heart liberals right?[/quote28d7df0282][/quote28d7df0282]

What's your point FON?

The reason homos are liberal is because Clinton was hot, and Kerry(with the exception of his ugly ass horse face) was hot. Republicans aren't hot.

[quote2aead9ddd8="shamash"]The reason homos are liberal is because Clinton was hot, and Kerry(with the exception of his ugly ass horse face) was hot. Republicans aren't hot.[/quote2aead9ddd8]

Exactly which part of Kerry, if not his "ugly ass horse face", was hot?

[quote4c22618921="theysayjump"][quote4c22618921="shamash"]The reason homos are liberal is because Clinton was hot, and Kerry(with the exception of his ugly ass horse face) was hot. Republicans aren't hot.[/quote4c22618921]

Exactly which part of Kerry, if not his "ugly ass horse face", was hot?[/quote4c22618921]That Kerry, hes so hot right now.

http//www.charlottelaws.org/images/Charlotte_Laws__John_Kerry.jpg[" alt=""/imgc6169332bb]

he went like boarding in the water in Oregon when he campaigned and it was on the news and hes fucking buff. so k <3 fine.

[quote0231a0a220="theysayjump"]I was under the impression that avatars and other non-tangible, inanimate "things" were void of sexual preferance.

Of all the Gay bars I've been to, I've never seen or been approached by an avatar.[/quote0231a0a220]

Out of all the funny posts, this one seriously takes the cake.

[quote0fcce9aec4="theysayjump"]
Of all the Gay bars I've been to, I've never seen or been approached by an avatar.[/quote0fcce9aec4]

Ok, I didn't expect you, of all people, to perpetuate these stereotypes. Just because [b0fcce9aec4]YOU[/b0fcce9aec4] haven't been hit on by an avatar, means that no avatars are gay? Great logic there, maybe you should apply that to all your views.

[quoteaa4d466d46="theysayjump"]Not sure if the term "Neocon" applies here or not but, OH NOES.

The less conservative the world is, the better, in my opinion. wink[/quoteaa4d466d46]

That tends to be the popular european view in politics.

well it may not be majority. but harper is in!! D

[quote26776ff6e1="xigxag"][quote26776ff6e1="theysayjump"]
Of all the Gay bars I've been to, I've never seen or been approached by an avatar.[/quote26776ff6e1]

Ok, I didn't expect you, of all people, to perpetuate these stereotypes. Just because [b26776ff6e1]YOU[/b26776ff6e1] haven't been hit on by an avatar, means that no avatars are gay? Great logic there, maybe you should apply that to all your views.[/quote26776ff6e1]

I do. wink

[quote2969dd4101="bspence"]well it may not be majority. but harper is in!! D[/quote2969dd4101]

And I am sure that he will make fascist ideas such as the following into the law

http//www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=FOG20050824&articleId=853

It's amazing all the crap that people will put up with on all political fronts for a measley tax cut.

Harper isnt in power yet. It takes up to 21 days to get everything settled. And even if Conservatives werent giving a tax cut, I would still vote for them.

Ok this topic is out of control. Since everyone decided to gang up on exclusiv, i'll back him up on a couple points he made early. I won't bother to criticize him as everyone else has already done a nice enough job of that.
[bbdb790f85f]
hollywood is libral
[/bbdb790f85f]
this isn't some sterotype, come on while some artists(P. Diddy) come to mind as encouring the vote, most actors musicians were pulling for the blue. I remember seeing Bright Eyes, M. Ward, and Jim James of my morning jacket the october before the election and they were definatly selling kerry.

the vote for change tour was freakin huge, with some of the top musical artists in the world. Every damn actor except for Arnold, Bruce Willis, and Sly Stone seemed to be backing Kerry too.

Yeah Bush had lots of country artists supporting him, but who the hell where they really reaching that wasn't already voting that way. hollywood hit a large pop. of the young vote and made a significant difference i think in getting out the vote to uninformed people.

Anyways if you vote someway because of what a fucking celebrity tells you..real smart.

Second of all i'd assume there would be a lot more homosexuals in the entire state of california. Am I wrong to assume San Francisco is like the gay capital of the world? I mean the libral enviroment out there is much more accepting of said lifestyle. So yeah i'd agree on the more gay people in Hollywood part.

why is everyone so PC on here these days?

some sterotypes are true

If you said more people listen to country music in texas than in new york, I wouldn't jump up and start arguing with everyone about stereotypes.


The better question for Veek and exclusiv is

Do you have any friends that are conservative/libral?

the opposite of your views, if so how many?


I meet very few people at my college that are libral. I do have libral friends though...i'd say about 4. I am not really political, I find myself mostly falling in the middle ground, however I used to lean libral but all the Bush bashing, and republican complaining actually pushed me further to the conservative side.


Go 90 miles southeast to austin and you would think you are in california, there are tons more librals in the city. The only city that is consistently libral in texas. Oh also guess what there are a lot more homeless people, hippies, and gay people there. Is that a bad thing? no, but is it obvious when you fucking step foot in the city for more than a day? FUCK YES!

There is no need to sugarcoat the truth. The libral enviroment supports the homeless in a much more caring and supportive manner than they are looked upon in Dallas or Houston. Call it the general compassion of libral people, or just the social enviroment they create with their interactions. Much like I think it does with the hippies and the homosexuals. There are gay people everywhere, even at the most conservative school in the nation.

I used to work with a gay man, and a gay student worker in an office of about 16 people total. So it's not like I live in some redneck bubble, where I never interact with gay people. There is always lots of contoversy here, as so many students are close minded and can't accept any minorities at our school. it's very emmbarrasing. However the homosexual crowd here is a very active community, I even think there is a gay bar in town.

we can admit we are wrong and still get angry at the person above us too. no need to gang up on exclusiv just cause he says some obvious observations.

I mean he was right about the libral friends thing, canada voted conservative in spite of the fact that every person veek knew was libral. That just proved his point more-so

and lastly TSJ your example of Paris Hilton is a bad one as she was born wealthy from her family's business intelligence. I don't think she has done anything remarkably incredible herself to make money. She was just born into celebrity, and did a good job of building her celebrity up.

Look at the olsen twins, what did they ever do to be as rich as they are?

[quote3efa45d5e9="bspence"]Harper isnt in power yet. It takes up to 21 days to get everything settled. And even if Conservatives werent giving a tax cut, I would still vote for them.[/quote3efa45d5e9]

Well, when fascism takes a hold in Canada, you'll forgive me when I say that I told you so. I am not saying that the Liberals were saints because they were the ones who put the laws on the table and passed one. Its just that Harper will undoubtedly begin to enforce those laws and pass others.

[quote9c6938f398="Jake"][quote9c6938f398="bspence"]Harper isnt in power yet. It takes up to 21 days to get everything settled. And even if Conservatives werent giving a tax cut, I would still vote for them.[/quote9c6938f398]

Well, when fascism takes a hold in Canada, you'll forgive me when I say that I told you so. I am not saying that the Liberals were saints because they were the ones who put the laws on the table and passed one. Its just that Harper will undoubtedly begin to enforce those laws and pass others.[/quote9c6938f398]

I guess we'll find out then ahha wink

Hey Jake, are you Canadian? Im just wondering cause u seem to know a lot about Canadian politics.

[quote6ec79ff947="bspence"]
Hey Jake, are you Canadian? Im just wondering cause u seem to know a lot
about Canadian politics.[/quote6ec79ff947]

I am a Polish born, naturalized Canadian citizen living in the United States.

So the answer is yes.

[quote8eb3b51da9="Jake"][quote8eb3b51da9="bspence"]
Hey Jake, are you Canadian? Im just wondering cause u seem to know a lot
about Canadian politics.[/quote8eb3b51da9]

I am a Polish born, naturalized Canadian citizen living in the United States.

So the answer is yes.[/quote8eb3b51da9]

Nice. I love fellow Canadians. haha D

[quote140bce6bcf="Jake"][quote140bce6bcf="bspence"]
Hey Jake, are you Canadian? Im just wondering cause u seem to know a lot
about Canadian politics.[/quote140bce6bcf]

I am a Polish born, naturalized Canadian citizen living in the United States.

So the answer is yes.[/quote140bce6bcf]


Polish? Excellent. Same here Jake) I lived in Poland for 6 years. )


jak sie masz Jake?

[quote856f820a5b="Powerbook"]
Polish? Excellent. Same here Jake) I lived in Poland for 6 years. )
jak sie masz Jake?[/quote856f820a5b]

Niezle. Bardzo jestem zajety ale mam troche czasu tutaj pierdolic. lol

[quote63e23dbee7="Jake"][quote63e23dbee7="Powerbook"]
Polish? Excellent. Same here Jake) I lived in Poland for 6 years. )
jak sie masz Jake?[/quote63e23dbee7]

Niezle. Bardzo jestem zajety ale mam troche czasu tutaj pierdolic. lol[/quote63e23dbee7]


) Kurwa na freeipodguide ) wink

huh? me no speak Polish ? confused2 ?

edit you have jake karma didn't you?

[quote42c9952591="crazyates"]huh? me no speak Polish ? confused2 ?

edit you have jake karma didn't you?[/quote42c9952591]

lol yeah. I asked him how he is doing, and he said he is busy but periodically he finds time to post on fipg )



Edit as for kurwa, that is a secret)

[quote8eb2ffbec6="Powerbook"][quote8eb2ffbec6="crazyates"]huh? me no speak Polish ? confused2 ?

edit you have jake karma didn't you?[/quote8eb2ffbec6]

lol yeah. I asked him how he is doing, and he said he is busy but periodically he finds time to post on fipg )



Edit as for kurwa, that is a secret)[/quote8eb2ffbec6]

oh ok...i notice that his karma was up from 14 to 16 since i last remembered...and i was wondering if you had anything to do with that... wink wink wink wink

it was at 15 actually lol i gave hime 1 karma point. Us polaks watch out for each other D

oh when i saw it it was 14...lol. i figured you would have given him one... wink wink lol lol

Karma battle!

IT WAS 14!!!![/size2beb6c453f]J/K............ lol [/size2beb6c453f]

Justin, you say people that are influenced by celebrities are idiots, but then you say you went conservative because other people were bashing bush?

A little missunderstood, I probably typed that out too quickly.

I said I used to lean to the left, when clinton was in power the republican's grumblings used to anger me. However now that Bush is in power, the democrats grumblings are far worse, and accusations are even more insane. It just pushed me over to the right a little more, didn't change my whole outlook. However I am now quick to dismiss any complaints on Bush as there are so many made each and every day. I used to listen to them, I saw farenheight 911. I didn't walk out, or leave in a cursing tyraid. I thought about all his points. Now they accuse the Bush of treason, the US planned and organized 911. I'm not trying to cause a political stir on here, but it seems like the librals will do anything now to paint Bush in a bad light.

In reality though he made a firm stance against the terrorists that will have effects lingering 40 yrs from now. Like when Regan took care of momar kadafi in the 80's. I voted against Bush last election in a hairline decision, however now I am glad he is in office.

Also half of the people bashing bush are the celebrites, so that's all the more reason.

[quote3f92135e79="justinag06"]and lastly TSJ your example of Paris Hilton is a bad one as she was born wealthy from her family's business intelligence. I don't think she has done anything remarkably incredible herself to make money. She was just born into celebrity, and did a good job of building her celebrity up.

Look at the olsen twins, what did they ever do to be as rich as they are?[/quote3f92135e79]

I was talking about the fact that exclusiv said that people who are richer are smarter. It's bullshit.

Just because Paris Hilton is rich, does that make her smart? Making money does not automatically make you smart. Being a successful businessman doesn't mean you're smart either.

I mean there are many variations of the word smart that any or all of them could possibly apply to her, but when someone says that someone else is smart, it's generally taken that they mean that person to be intelligent.

She was born into a rich family, exploited her name, made people give a shit about her when she really hasn't done anything worthy of someone giving a shit about her and she's automatically smart because of it?