A Celebration of the Man and the Holiday

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FreeOffersNow

15-01-2006 23:33:23

"I have a dream[=http//www.mecca.org/~crights/dream.html]I have a dream...I have a dream that one day little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers...I have a dream today"

Each year on the third Monday of January we celebrate the birth, the life and the dream of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

It is a time for the nation to remember the injustices that Dr. King fought. A time to remember his fight for the freedom, equality, and dignity of all races and peoples. A time to remember the message of change through nonviolence.

Happy Martin Luther King, Jr. Day!

Daggoth

15-01-2006 23:34:54

And most importantly, a day off!

Stroid

15-01-2006 23:35:16

indeed he was a great man there are a bunch of celebrations here in atlanta for him considering this was his home

d3athtonic

15-01-2006 23:35:31

Hurray! liclap clap clap

theysayjump

15-01-2006 23:54:36

Indeed. We need more people like him and others who fought the same way for the same rights.

My racist mother-in-law always asks why did they make a Martin Luther King Jr day but no JFK day.

Wolfeman

16-01-2006 00:20:25

JFK day? All he did was bang Marilyn Monroe and almost get us in a war with the Russians...

akalic

16-01-2006 00:27:57

Now i'm not american, and i don't know much about JFK, but did they assassinate him because he was going to use the money from the US people on other things instead of the army? like in other words, have a crap-ass army? sorry if this sounds stupid as hell, but i overheard it from a friend..

Tholek

16-01-2006 00:29:13

He really was a great man. (and he banged chicks on the side too) )

Personally, I think the goverment knocked him off. (MLK, not JFK, although RFK...hmmm)

Wolfeman

16-01-2006 00:31:25

http//www.google.com/logos/mlk06.gif[" alt=""/img8b0a9bc700]

Tholek

16-01-2006 00:34:21

Is it just me, or is that image sorta offensive?

Using him in a commercial way etc...

Wolfeman

16-01-2006 00:36:16

Its paying homage to him...

Aurelius

16-01-2006 01:27:53

they always have a special google icon on holidays!

Tholek

16-01-2006 02:25:02

Hmm, I know, but that one sorta pushes it, imo.

FreeOffersNow

16-01-2006 05:32:12

[quote2515ade7b7="Daggoth"]And most importantly, a day off![/quote2515ade7b7]

Actually...you couldn't be more wrong. It is widely known (or at least I thought it was?) that today should be considered a day ON rather than a day OFF. I have classes today, anyway.


[quote2515ade7b7="Tholek"]Is it just me, or is that image sorta offensive?

Using him in a commercial way etc...[/quote2515ade7b7]

I'd say its just you.

jadem

16-01-2006 05:58:15

Purdue gives everyone the day off because it was either today or President's day.

I can honestly say he was a great man, but I don't understand why we have to sacrifice one day over the other to declare it a University Holiday. We've had some GREAT presidents in our time that were also very important.

Oh well.

Tholek

16-01-2006 06:36:28

[quotea984ac4cec="FreeOffersNow"]I'd say its just you.[/quotea984ac4cec]

I don't want to live in a world where it's just me! ;)

tylerc

16-01-2006 11:55:21

How is that offensive?

Tholek

16-01-2006 12:06:10

Unlike Christmas or other seasonal tweaks to the Google logo, this was an actual man. One who died not [id2bcc9769c]that[/id2bcc9769c] long ago, and stood for a lot more than commercialism.

Again, maybe that's just my opinion...

tylerc

16-01-2006 12:07:02

They used braille on Louis Braille's birthday, did you find that offensive?

Iloveipods2

16-01-2006 12:13:54

yay let's all watch the movie Crash and then analyze how to stop discrimination in all its forms

Veek

16-01-2006 12:15:12

[quote9c54f51787="FreeOffersNow"][quote9c54f51787="Daggoth"]And most importantly, a day off![/quote9c54f51787]

Actually...you couldn't be more wrong. It is widely known (or at least I thought it was?) that today should be considered a day ON rather than a day OFF. I have classes today, anyway.
[/quote9c54f51787]

Agreed. It's hypocritical to praise someone who made such a change and then finish it off with, "the day is even better because we don't have work/school."

darkscout

16-01-2006 15:15:08

Posted in the Purdue Exponent



[quoteed31828120]Remember holiday celebrates man, not saint
By David Brunner
Senior Columnist

On Monday Americans of all creeds and colors will sleep in and watch football just because the observance of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day has deteriorated, as have many other holidays, into a day off and an opportunity for stores to fill their cash registers.

Still, there will be countless gooey speeches and articles about Dr. King, some of them barely falling short of veneration.

Predictably, public officials and wannabes of all kinds will pant and drool this weekend as they chase the bandwagon of this modern secular saint.

It's enough blatant abuse of a dead man's humanity to make one sick.

These patronizing politicians need to remember that when King was alive he was extremely controversial.

Unfortunately, today, saying anything critical of Martin Luther King Jr. can get one branded a racist.

And I am not referring to his habitual womanizing or his association with Communists or the additional questionable morals acts recorded and sealed until 2027 by the FBI.

What concerns me is King's own assertions about and attitude toward the nation that now worships him.

In a speech in 1967 he said that the United States was "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world." He suggested that in Vietnam "we test[ed] out our latest weapons on them, just as the Germans tested out new medicine and new tortures in the concentration camps of Europe."

One of King's further objections in the speech was that there was an "obvious and almost facile connection between the war in Vietnam and the struggle [he] and others [had] been waging in America [for civil rights]."

He claimed that before the war in Vietnam there was "real promise of hope for the poor, both black and white."

He said that he "knew that America would never invest the necessary funds or energies in rehabilitation of its poor so long as adventures like Vietnam continued to draw men and skills and money."

Little of this was accurate or relevant and none of it is indicative of a man entwined with faith and hope and inspiration for progress. Lyndon Johnson declared a war on poverty in 1964.

When King first uttered these words, spending on almost every facet of welfare had increased. More tax dollars than ever were being devoted to education, public infrastructure and community development.

While he never lived to see it, America did pull itself from "the dregs of civility." Despite the inevitability of deprivation and the frequent inflexibility of the human spirit, the difference between our world today and the world that King knew is like black and white.

Much of that was because of King's contributions, but not all.

Martin Luther King was commited to civil rights. He was a brave and articulate man who continues to touch and inspire millions. That can't be denied.

However, his memory is stained by his attacks on and lack of faith in his own country. Recognizing these aspects of this great leader is not racist, just accurate.
[/quoteed31828120]

EatChex89

16-01-2006 15:31:18

Martin was a great man.

FreeOffersNow

16-01-2006 15:44:54

[quote5249f2c5e7="EatChex89"]Martin was a great man.[/quote5249f2c5e7]

Way to address him by his first name...

EatChex89

16-01-2006 15:49:35

[quotebbb0bdc5fd="FreeOffersNow"][quotebbb0bdc5fd="EatChex89"]Martin was a great man.[/quotebbb0bdc5fd]

Way to address him by his first name...[/quotebbb0bdc5fd]

Well.. I wasn't addressing him personally, and he's dead now.

I'm sure he wouldn't have minded me calling him Martin.

Spiderman

16-01-2006 15:50:35

He was a great man!

FreeOffersNow

16-01-2006 15:54:10

[quoteedfa19e9dd="EatChex89"]Well.. I wasn't addressing him personally, and he's dead now.

I'm sure he wouldn't have minded me calling him Martin.[/quoteedfa19e9dd]

Do any of your professors have a PhD? Call them Professor [last name here] or Mr./Mrs. [last name here]...you'll see what I mean. Anyhow, I'm not going to argue about whether or not he would have minded being called Martin, its irrelevant.

EatChex89

16-01-2006 15:57:18

[quote6256c79bfd="FreeOffersNow"][quote6256c79bfd="EatChex89"]Well.. I wasn't addressing him personally, and he's dead now.

I'm sure he wouldn't have minded me calling him Martin.[/quote6256c79bfd]

Do any of your professors have a PhD? Call them Professor [last name here] or Mr./Mrs. [last name here]...you'll see what I mean. Anyhow, I'm not going to argue about whether or not he would have minded being called Martin, its irrelevant.[/quote6256c79bfd]

I didn't understand what you meant by that whole thing. Did he have a PhD? If so, then sorry Mr. King.

FreeOffersNow

16-01-2006 16:00:16

[quoted72f0f08c3="EatChex89"]I didn't understand what you meant by that whole thing. Did he have a PhD? If so, then sorry Mr. King.[/quoted72f0f08c3]

Yes...he had a PhD. Thus it would be Dr. King. You'll understand if you ever have a professor with a doctorate.

EatChex89

16-01-2006 16:01:21

[quote8d81c10529="FreeOffersNow"][quote8d81c10529="EatChex89"]I didn't understand what you meant by that whole thing. Did he have a PhD? If so, then sorry Mr. King.[/quote8d81c10529]

Yes...he had a PhD. Thus it would be Dr. King. You'll understand if you ever have a professor with a doctorate.[/quote8d81c10529]

ahh. excuse me. Dr. King was a great man.

CollidgeGraduit

16-01-2006 16:15:44

[quote31e3411be0="FreeOffersNow"][quote31e3411be0="EatChex89"]I didn't understand what you meant by that whole thing. Did he have a PhD? If so, then sorry Mr. King.[/quote31e3411be0]

Yes...he had a PhD. Thus it would be Dr. King. You'll understand if you ever have a professor with a doctorate.[/quote31e3411be0]

I called one of my profs Steve, even though he had a doctorate.

tylerc

16-01-2006 16:16:12

When you have a PhD, you address them as Dr.

It's Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

CollidgeGraduit

16-01-2006 16:17:44

[quote03d77e6065="tylerc"]When you have a PhD, you address them as Dr.

It's Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.[/quote03d77e6065]

Actually, if they have a PhD, you address them as Dr.

If YOU have a PhD, you address them by whatever is appropriate ;)

Wolfeman

16-01-2006 16:22:00

You guys are funny...

FreeOffersNow

16-01-2006 16:42:07

[quotef38dce3636="Wolfeman"]You guys are funny...[/quotef38dce3636]

It's true though...many Dr's insist on being called Dr. (as opposed to Prof., Mr./Mrs., etc.)...and for good reason.

mnx12

16-01-2006 16:47:48

You guys are a little too sensitive, calm down...

tylerc

16-01-2006 17:08:47

We are sensitive?

You are the one who thinks drugs and alcohol are the worst thing a person could do.

FreeOffersNow

16-01-2006 17:09:34

Relax, please )

riahmatic

16-01-2006 17:40:04

[quotea0476f34af="jadem"]Purdue gives everyone the day off because it was either today or President's day.

I can honestly say he was a great man, but I don't understand why we have to sacrifice one day over the other to declare it a University Holiday. We've had some GREAT presidents in our time that were also very important.

Oh well.[/quotea0476f34af]

They probably just chose the one that best fit their schedule rather than figuring historical importance or something.

I wanna be like MLK when I grow up D

Iloveipods2

16-01-2006 17:44:58

yeah MLK was amazing